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This is Dan Caples and welcome to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Is it the American way to have

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Donald Trump win this debate with Joe
Biden a week from tonight? Is it

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the American way to be spending impossible
amounts of money, impossible amounts of money

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putting the homeless in hotel rooms when
you know you can't sustain it, and

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you have to cut lots of other
things, including going to an automated nine

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to one one system eight five to
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then number wow. Jump on any
of those you'd like to. You know

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me right now, I'm totally obsessed
with this debate a week from tonight,

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Ryan, I don't think we can
even call it a debate. This is

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this is not a debate in the
traditional sense, right, It's not a

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presidential debate like we've known ever in
our lifetime, because only one of these

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guys is going to be their party's
candidate for president. So what do you

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want to call it? Next Thursday. What is it really? I mean,

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it's it's It's Biden's swan song for
Trump. It may very well be

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the election because if we get the
A Trump, it's going to be hard

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for Gavin Newsom or whoever they put
up there to beat him. And I

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think so many voters right now who
are truly undecided, So many of those

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voters right now are just waiting to
see if Trump still got game. So

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they want to see him up there
because I think everybody in America who's honest

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and knows what happened in New York
and that that was a wrongful conviction,

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politically motivated abuse of our judicial system. And so what they're looking for now

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is does he still have game?
You know, has he lost a step?

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Or is he still real sharp?
Is he is he stable? That

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kind of stuff, Because listen,
as far as the public, not not

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the Trump supporters like me, but
as far as the public's concerned. Ryan,

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correct me if I'm wrong on this, But I think all the public

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has seen of Donald Trump since that
wrongful conviction was his national comments the next

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morning when he went live at about
nine o'clock mountain time the next morning.

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And I think that was very,
very widely watched, and he did not

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do well that next morning, and
who could blame him? You know,

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the guys served the country great,
he's just been put through this awful wrong

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floor deal, he's just been wrongly
convicted of felonies and he's only human.

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But he wasn't sharp that next morning. So I think for an awful lot

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of Americans, they just want to
know, you know, is he as

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sharp as he was during his first
term. If so, then yeah,

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no brainer, they're going to vote
for him. So I think, well,

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you can't. It's a trial.
What's happening next Thursday night is the

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trial of Donald Trump in the court
of public opinion, and what's on trial

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is whether he's still got his game. Joe Biden is a side show.

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He's like, you know, you
go to the circus, right and you

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got the bearded lady over here.
Joe Biden's the bearded lady. This is

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all about Trump. You know,
Trump's the elephant in the ring. What

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what did people when the circuses used
to have animals, people were going to

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see what were we going to see
the elephant? We were going to see

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the elephant. We're going to see
the tiger. Did you ever see that

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picture of me riding an elephant at
the circus? No? Oh, okay,

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you got to show this. Yeah. Anyway, all I'm saying is

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that's what Next Thursday Night is,
and we're making all this up on the

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fly. It's pretty good, right. Next Thursday Night is the trial of

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Donald Trump in the court of public
opinion. The one and only issue for

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the jury does he still got game? How much you want to bet?

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And if we replaced these odds in
Vegas that the first question of Donald Trump

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is if he still questions the results
of the twenty twenty election, right,

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And that's what the left push are
Jake Tepper's first question should be who won

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in twenty twenty? Right? And
you can be sure for those reasons,

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it will not be the first question, but it will be asked, right,

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Because if Tapper just makes it the
first question, then I just no

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obvious ringer for the left. But
it will be asked, and it's fair

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to ask. I think it's I
think it's important that Trump answers yes.

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Yes. That's why the tougher That's
why when I try a case, Ryan,

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I want the toughest possible opposition in
that court room, the toughest possible

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opposition, because then then you know, right, it is going to bring

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out your best. It is going
to clear everything, clarify everything for the

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jury. So that's what Donald Trump
needs, he needs the toughest possible questions,

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because that's what the voters have in
their mind. Here's the difference between

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us and them, though, Dan
Jake Tapper, who I want to like

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and I want to respect him.
I think he's got it in him.

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I do. Is he going to
ask Joe Biden about Hunter's laptop? Then

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you asked, Joe, is it's
again you think so dead? Nuts?

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Certain? You really think so?
Yes? Yeah, see, I guarantee

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you, Oh, you can wipe
clean the slate of all the Tomahawks.

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You owe me and Kelly Tomahawks.
Kelly owes me Tomahawks. You will get

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that question from one of the CNNs. You will get that question, which

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is, hey, you stood on
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laptop was Russian disinformation? Why did
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Will you admit now? Yep,
So they're gonna say Trump, will

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you admit that Joe Biden won that
election? Biden? Will you admit now

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that laptop was Hunter Biden's and the
evidence on that laptop is real. Yeah,

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you're going to get those two questions, and you should. I'm just

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hoping we do get both of them
because I will guarantee that. Yeah,

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Trump's gonna get asked about twenty twenty
the outcome. Does he accept the results?

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You lot? Do you think he's
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Well, I want to open it
up. What do people think you should

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say to that? Eight five five
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We know what he's going to say, but it's how he says it.

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He still believes he won that election. I think he believes that. Listen,

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if there's one thing you can be
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himself, you can be certain that
Donald Trump is going to say he won

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in twenty and there are a number
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Because understand these the Biden Whitehouse prosecution
of Trump and federal court. We've been

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so focused on this wrongful prosecution in
state court. The federal court prosecution that

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won't get to trial before election day. The whole premise of that case is

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that Donald Trump allegedly knew that he
had lost and argued to overturn the election

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anyway. So there is zero zer
chance that Donald Trump's going to get up

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on that debate stage and say,
yeah, you're right, I lost.

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I believe, if I truly believe
that Donald Trump believes to his core and

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has always believed to his core that
he's won, that he won that race,

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I've never seen any proof to the
contrary. My position has always been

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I've seen evidence of fraud. I
haven't seen evidence of enough fraud to change

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the outcome. Could he say something
as simple Dan as well, I believe

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I won the election, but we
weren't able to win it in the courts.

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Something like that. Sure, I
mean, but this will be such

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a barometer of how well he has
prepared. And because back to how I

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opened the show, you've got the
discipline Donald Trump, the guy who built

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that tremendous real estate empire, got
himself elected president in sixteen, etc.

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You've got the disciplined and did some
great things as president. You got the

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discipline Donald Trump, and you got
the wing at Donald Trump. Yeah,

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and if we're going to get the
discipline Donald Trump. It isn't going to

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be because he decides next Wednesday night. Hey, I'm going to be disciplined.

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It's because he's already decided and he's
doing the pre right now to be

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his best in a week. So
if we get the discipline Donald Trump,

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you'll get an answer like that,
right, If you get the wing at

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Donald Trump, it's part of the
part of the amazing entertainment of Donald Trump.

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But the wing at Donald Trump,
who knows. Yeah, we'll see.

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And I'm still I am not as
certain Dan that Joe Biden gets asked

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about the laptop. He absolutely should. And if they're doing their jobs,

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they're gonna even look like they're hamodicum
of fairness in it, then they're gonna

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have to ask him about it.
Right. The reason I'm laughing is I'm

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looking at this headline and CNN a
couple of minutes ago, aides colon Joe

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Biden pouring over briefing books and questions
for debate. Now I picture Biden sleeping

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on the briefing books, and you
know that isn't true, because they've got

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to know. The more of that
kind of prep they do with them,

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the worse it's going to be for
them. That's why they agreed no notes.

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Yeah, because if he had more
than one little note card up there

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on stage, it would short circuit. I can't overload him with data in

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facts and numbers and information. They
can't do that. No, this is

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just going to be angry old man
spewing venom at Trump. And it's really

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it isn't even about Biden next Thursday. He's almost irrelevant. He's not their

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nominee. This is the trial of
Donald Trump in the court of public opinion.

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The only issue for the jury does
he still got game? You're on

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the Dan Capla Show and now back
to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. Yeah,

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Stones tonight at mile I bet it's
a great show. Eight five five

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forour zero five eight two five to
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seven, seven through nine. If
you're just dropping in, thank you for

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that. We're talking about it's just
a week from tonight. It's not a

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debate. We're not going to refer
to it that way. It's not a

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presidential debate because only one of the
people on stage is going to be their

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party's nominee. It's I'm calling it
the trial of Donald Trump in the court

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of public opinion, and the only
issue for the jury is whether he's still

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got game and how he wins.
Boiled down to two words. I mean,

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we'll talk about lots of other stuff
because we enjoy that, but it's

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simple, be presidential. If he's
presidential, he wins. It's that simple.

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Undecided majority just want to see if
he's still got game or if he's

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this divisive, chaotic, unstable wacko
the left paints him to be. And

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while you and I have been watching
him in action, right, if you're

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like me and if you want him
to win and you're paying attention all this

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stuff, most of the people who
are going to decide this race have not

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been watching him in action. You
know that they're not dialed into this stuff

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the way you and I are.
So yeah, they'll dial in next Thursday,

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or they'll see clips whatever. And
that's the one big question, you

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know, does he still got game? And so his path to victory is

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very easy, very easy, and
very obvious in that debate, and it's

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just going to take a lot of
discipline and prep. Chris and Boulder,

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you're on the Dan Capitol Show also
talking about the Great State of Louisiana mandatory

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now to have the ten command.
It's in classrooms, along with the quote

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context statement that hey, these are
going up here not to try to convert

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you to a religion, but as
part of the state's history, et cetera.

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Chris, what do you think of
my friend? Hey, good to

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talk to you again, Dan,
oh and quickly, Ryan, congratulations on

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hosting your own show. You deserve
it. Thank you, Chris appreciate it.

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Well, he hosts this show too, right, I mean, so

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he's got a two shows. Yeah, and that's hosting. But no,

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that's really Kelly going to get a
show. Kelly, You're the only person

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around here without at least one show. And so I wanted to weigh in

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on how Donald Trump should talk about
January or the twenty twenty election and what

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he should say. I mean,
I think he needs I think it would

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be good if he did it a
little bit like put context to it.

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You know how close it was,
I mean something like forty thousand votes in

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three states, you know, and
where those votes made the difference were in

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Milwaukee and Atlanta, cities that are
Democrats, bistoms that haven't had Republican mayor

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in decades that are known to be
corrupt and talk about the funky things that

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happened. And so Chris, give
us the verbat of my friend, because

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obviously you're in this format where if
you are not right to the point,

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if you don't have something real,
concise and punchy, even if you've made

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a great point, it's going to
get missed. Yeah, yeah, I

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don't think I could do that.
Actually, that's okay. No, no,

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I appreciate that. I'll read for
you, and thank you Chris for

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your call. I'll read for you
one of the greatest texts we've had in

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a long time. And this question
because we know that Trump's going to be

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asked and he should be right.
It's only fair that he'd be asked,

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hey, do you still believe you
one in twenty, just like only fair

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Biden will be asked, Hey,
you said on the debate stage the laptop

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was Russian disinformation, and do you
admit now the laptop is your son's and

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the evidence on it is real.
So how about this one from a Texter.

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If the first question to Trump is
about the twenty twenty election, his

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response should be, do you still
question the twenty sixteen election? Right.

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What a great point. I love
that. What a great point because when

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you stop and look at this,
this wrongful trial and conviction of Donald Trump

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in New York, that is an
election denial case. The whole theory of

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the prosecution was that Trump stole the
sixteen election. So that that is a

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brilliant point from the texter. How
do you think Trump should answer that question?

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Eight five five four zero five eight
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doing Texters, Dan. Trump should
say, of course I won in twenty

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twenty because there's no way Cricket Sleepy
Joe got eighty one million legitimate votes.

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When you can only fill up six
circles with fake news reporters, and I

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fill stadiums, you don't need any
more proof. What do you think of

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that answer? Ryan? Okay,
we'll wait, grind up back there and

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what are you smoking? Question Mark? If you think that the question of

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Hunter's laptop will be given to Biden, you probably think unicorns exist. See

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that's so interesting in me that text, because it's obvious the question will be

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asked. The question has to be
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self interest, right, you always
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they're bad people, They're just people. And what is the self interest of

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these moderators. The self interest of
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no, let's make it a tie. They have a dual self interest

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between defeating Trump and elevating themselves within
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credibility, they have to ask Biden
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they're not doing it at that point
to hurt Biden. They're doing it to

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help themselves within the p fashion.
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lose, and they'll find other ways
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course, come on, I've said
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long stop counting. It's about the
follow up questions, right. You

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can ask whatever question you want to
ask and think, oh, that's a

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tough question, but it's meaningless if
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gobbledegook. So Biden's going to be
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avoid it. And the real test
of Jake Tapper whomever from CNN is going

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to be do they follow up with
him and Amram? Now, what's more

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likely to happen is they ask both
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then they follow up with Trump and
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We'll find out together, Ryan,
I wish there was time for us

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to pull an event together for next
Thursday where we could watch it with people,

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watch it with listeners. Why now
we've got time of week. It's

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a week. Yeah, what about
it at your house? Go to your

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house? Yeah, now we should
have an event. Here's the challenge with

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the events, because I've been to
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debate night. You can't hear the
darn debate. Yeah, you would want

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a venue where you could absolutely hear. Why I don't go to super Bowl

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parties? Yeah's inviting, but I
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want to I want to watch the
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hear what the commentators are saying.
I want to hear the commercials, right,

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yeah too. Yeah. By the
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Nothing? I have never smoked marijuana. I've never eaten marijuana. I just

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you know, I've got all my
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done that, your own stuff.
But you know, we're all human.

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Right, we've all got our flaws. No, I'm glad you Clark.

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You're right, somebody would have.
I don't do bod I got. I

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got much stronger stuff than that good
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have been played back and you're not
tune time. Yeah, peanut Butter,

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isn't it true that you admitted on
air to using hard drugs? No,

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I've never done any drugs, but
you told Ryan Shuling. Yeah, No,

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I don't smoke marijuana. I got
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you said it. Yeah, that's
great, that's great. Let's see what

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else do we have. I have
that in common with you. By the

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way, I have never smoked Marina. Yes, do you miss it.

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I've never tried it. Right,
But I mean, do you sit there

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and think, Man, I wish
I could smoke marijuana. I've done no

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desire, zero desire, Right,
I've never had any desire to be a

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stary. You got this far without
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those things, you know how some
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But I've just had no interest.
Hey, when we come back Louisiana

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putting up the Ten Commandments? Do
you want him in our school sphere.

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You're on the Dankaplas Show, you're
listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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He can't even call him, our
next guest, that this is an icon.

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Jack Phillips has risen to the status
of kind of a biblical type figure

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who were just blessed to have here
in Colorado, as he's constantly persecuted by

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the Left that controls Colorado, persecuted
for his Christian beliefs. They insist that

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he bend the knee, that he
take the knee, and that he expressed

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things he doesn't believe in. And
if he doesn't, then the Left's going

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to keep using the law against him. And Jack's going to keep fighting and

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he's going to keep winning all the
way up as he did before, to

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the US Supreme Court, and we
benefit from it. It'd be so much

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easier, imagine Jack, welcome back
to the Dan Kapla Show along with your

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great lawyer Jake Warner from Alliance Defending
Freedom. Jack. It would have to

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be a lot easier for you to
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years ago, just go about your
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give them, you know, whatever
bending of the knee they want, But

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you've fought the good fight, and
we're the ones who are going to benefit

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from it. Yeah, not only
you and your listeners, but people assuing

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me. They're also going to benefit
if we win, because if I lose,

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we all lose. Free speeches for
everyone. And having the lines depending

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freedom to help us through this,
well, not help us, but carry

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us through this legal battle has been
just such a blessing. Boy, that

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is so true, because I think
most of us going about normal daily life

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have no idea what's involved in mounting
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all the way through the process,
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It's a monumental undertaking. But obviously
they couldn't accomplish this without you, without

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somebody willing to fight this fight.
So before we get into the legal issues

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of the last US Supreme Court pardon
me, Colorado Supreme Court appearance a couple

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of days ago, what is at
this point the personal toll on you?

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Are you glad that you have fought
this battle? How are you doing with

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all of this? You know,
I am glad that this battle came to

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us and that we were able to
pursue it again with the help of Alliance

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Spinning Freedom, because honestly, Dan, I could not take a lawyer out

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to lunch, let alone afford this
fantastic team of lawyers and everybody else involved

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in Alliance Spinning Freedom helping to preserve
the right of every American to live and

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work according to the beliefs without fear
of punishment from the government. And so

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it's been a battle that I didn't
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was there to stand with us.
Poor Jack and Jack Phillips are special guests.

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That's such a great point because not
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if let's say it was a corporation
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of Appellet's support through this many cases, you're talking probably fifteen to twenty million

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dollars in attorney's fees, But not
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the representation. Because when you know
Jack and most of us don't in daily

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life, is that the quality of
lawyers at Alliance Defending Freedom. These are

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top people who could be earning top
corporate salaries in big law, but they

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decide they're going to stand up and
fight for what's right, and so we're

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lucky to have them but Jak and
Jack, obviously it's your case. Just

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bring people up to speed on what
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To me, it seems like a
very clear, simple issue. This

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is obviously expression under these circumstances,
this cake. But please just educate all

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of us on it. Sure,
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on the show. Let me give
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Your listeners might remember back in twenty
seventeen, when the Supreme Court took

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Jack's first case, a Denver lawyer
called and requested Jack to create a custom

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cake blue on the outside and peak
on the inside that would celebrate a gender

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transition. Of course, Jack serves
all people, but he can't express every

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message, and that's a message he
can't express for anyone. Well, this

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attorney sued Jack, and here we
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court said that Jack could be punished
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earlier this week we were at the
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for everyone and the government shouldn't force
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and that principle protects people like Jack
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and some of life's biggest issues,
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of these issues, so the government
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believe. Hey, and I think
that goes to the point Jack opened with

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is that he is helping the people
who are oppressing him. He's protecting their

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right to free speech. These rights
got away for me, they go away

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for everybody. Free speech is for
everybody. If they go away from me,

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they go away for everybody. And
so align spending freedom is helping protect

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artists like myself, like Baronel Stutsman
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to Zho three Creative, whose case
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to stand and have the government protect
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and not compel us to express things. So we don't. Well, and

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Jack, I'm glad you mentioned three
Zho three Creative And Jake, maybe I'm

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missing something, But isn't it at
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law so far, isn't this kind
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expression in this context? And so
what's the issue. Well, we argued

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in court earlier this week that three
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There, the US Supreme Court said
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same law to force artists to express
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to colorade a Supreme court. This
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has to apply that decision. So
we're hoping the Colorado Supreme Court will apply

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that decision faithfully to protect Jack in
this case because as a draw court below

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found, this cake expresses a message, It cribilizes a transition from male to

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female. And when the government's trying
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three or three says it can't do
that. Yeah, it just seems so

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straightforward, and I have to believe
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obviously you'll win at this level.
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believe the US Supreme Court is going
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hey, this is straightforward. I
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back in twenty eighteen, the US
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Jack, but on the free exercise
issue. I didn't reach the free speech

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issue that we raised there because the
other violation was so clear. Of course,

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in the sixty years since, Jack
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he's been in litigation now over twelve
years, as government officials and activists have

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been misusing the wall to try to
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here, but if it doesn't,
we certainly stand ready to appeal to the

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US Supreme Court, and we hope
that they would end this harassment once and

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for all. Yeah, like some
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process is the punishment. You know. It's almost as if, in my

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view that this secular, far left
government in Colorado, I just know they're

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going to lose in the end,
but they just want to punish you for

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standing up for what you believe and
standing up for religious freedom. So I

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think they've got to know they're going
to lose eventually at one of these appellate

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levels, but they want to punish
you with this process. And again,

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Dan, if it weren't for alliance
depending freedom, they defend all their clients

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like me pro Bunnal for free,
I couldn't afford any of this, So

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donors like your listeners are able to
give them money to help support me that

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sports themselves. So yeah, the
state is conceivably just like you said,

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hoping to wear me out and that
I'll i'll just get tired of it or

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whatever, can't afford to go further. But with ADF, ADF is able

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to carry these cases as far as
they need to go. Well, appreciate

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that. Jack and Jake tell people
how if they want to financially support ADF

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they can do that. Yeah,
your friends and listeners can visit ADF legal

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dot org. You can learn more
about Jack's story. He is a hero

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here standing for what he believes for
over a decade. Now it's our privilege

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here at ADF to represent clients just
like Jack all across the country and even

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around the world. But again,
your listeners can visit ADF legal dot org

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and learn more about the work that
Alliance Descending Freedom does representing people just like

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Jack and descending freedom for all.
And I really hope that everybody does.

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Jack go ahead, and if they
don't remember that, have them call me

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at the shop can direct them there. Great, And I wanted to ask

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you about the shop, Jack,
So how can folks support you and your

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business. Well, we opened the
business so we could serve everybody. We

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don't create every message if people ask
us to, but if they want to

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come by byer cakes, brownies,
cookies, that kind of thing, we

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have lattes and copy glad to serve
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the case and those kind of things. So they're welcome to come by anytime.

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We're a block north of Hamdon on
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through Saturday to most of the day
ten to five. Well, man,

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we are we are so lucky that
you're a colorad and we're lucky that you

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are the person you are an alliance
defending freedom and it is one of the

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best things in America. So thanks
to both of you. Appreciate you fighting

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the good fight and your time today. All right, thanks for having us.

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Thanks guys, you take care,
appreciate it. Right man, I'm

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telling you that is we are talking
the other day about the ten greatest Coloradens

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in Colorado history, and Jack Phillips
has to be way up there on that

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list, way up there. We
are just so lucky to have them and

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I'm serious about this alliance defending freedom
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highest level that the guys. Now
back to the dan Kaplis show, Alliance

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defending freedom of these lawyers. I
mean they are cream of the crop who

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could be at big law earning these
ginormous salaries, but they've decided, Hey,

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they're going to devote their god given
skills to doing things that matter.

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More So, it doesn't get any
better than that you're on the dan Kaplas

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Show. I don't know, I
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courts to decide. I don't have
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wants to hang up a piece of
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know, hey, kids don't murder, don't steal, don't lie, and

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respect your parents. You know that
doesn't bother me. I'm not out here

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crusading for it, and I certainly
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But you know, these are the
fundamental tenets of Western Sibylis. They

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kind of underpin, you know,
our entire criminal justices. I mean,

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look, if they're part of a
historical display, if they're hanging up there

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next to the Constitution, the Mayflower
Compact, the Declaration of Independence. I

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don't have a problem with that.
I do see that is key because you're

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probably hurt, I'm sure. But
now it's the Louisiana law signed yesterday that

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makes it mandatory to put the Ten
Commandments up in classrooms. But what's left

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out of a lot of stories is
it has to be up with a context

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statement, a statement that essentially says, and I'm paraphrasing, hey, this

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is part of our state's history.
These are foundational documents of our state and

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our nation. This is the moral
tradition of our state. You know,

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it's not a statement that says,
hey, you've got to pray to my

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God. And the US Supreme Court
has been real clear, Hey, you

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can put Ten Commandments up in all
sorts of public government places as long as

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the motivation isn't primarily religious, because
you can have these other motivations. It

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is true, as a matter of
fact, the Ten Commandments are, for

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many states and the nation foundational documents. They're part of the moral tradition of

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the nation and most states there's this
secular moral message as well. And you

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know, constitutionally, the state can't
be hostile to religion either. I can't

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just say, oh, something could
be read as religious, so you can't

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have it there. So No,
I think there's a real good chance depending

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upon what the evidence shows. When
they're looking at what's the primary motivation and

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they start doing depositions and using subpoenas
to get electronic evidence, etc. What

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was the primary motivation? So I
think the way Louisiana's approached this, there

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is a I think there's a real
good chance the Supreme Court upholds it ultimately.

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But could you just say, hey, we're putting the Ten Commandments up

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in every classroom because we want all
these kids to be Christian. No,

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you couldn't say that the US Supreme
Court would strike that down under their current

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doctrine. But yeah, don't be
surprised if this one's upheld. Hey,

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we've also been talking about debate prep. Dan Kelly does need a show,

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says a Texter. I would listen. I guarantee you that I would listen,

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Dan, Why wait for Jake?
Teppard asked the question of Biden.

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As soon as Jake asked Trump if
he thinks he won or lost the twenty

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twenty elections, Trump should tell them
I will answer that question when President Biden

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answers my question about Hunter's laptop,
and then ask Biden if he will admit

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that it's real. Yeah, we
have such smart listeners and texters. That

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is a great approach right there.
But it all comes back to, right,

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are we getting the a President Trump? Is he disciplined? Is he

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preparing right now? Because he's got
so many accomplishments to talk about. You

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know, if he's preparing the way
he should, he is going to win

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the night. Eric, you're on
the Dan Kaplas. She'll welcome Hi,

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Dan, you great American. You're
just spinking about in Louisiana to take a

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madmage. How about Bill Lee,
the Tennessee governor. That's okay? The

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bill to death penalty of the child
rapist? Yeah, why not? I

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mean, listen, there's the great
death penalty debate, right but for anybody

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who supports the death penalty, why
would you oppose it for a child rapist?

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Absolutely? Hey, young man.
I talked to Kelly of lne Well

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of there, and I told her
that I bet you stake dinner at the

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Dirty Dog Roadhouse that the debate doesn't
even happen. Oh, I'll take that

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bet. Yeah. I don't think
we can call it a debate because one

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of the people on the stage is
not going to be their party's nominee.

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But I call it the trial of
Donald Trump in the court of public opinion.

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And the one issue for the Jerry
my friend is does Trump still have

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game? That's what persuadables are going
to be looking for. They know they

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were better off under Trump. They
just want to see if he still has

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gay And one more thing. You're
great America and my wife? Ain't you

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the email picture of me? You
and no? Greg Zillerman, No,

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I did not. Do you sure
you have the right email? Well?

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Yes, yeah, Well why don't
you hold on, Kelly, You'll talk

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to you off air. I want
to see it. Email it to me

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right now, okay, like before
the end of the show. Okay,

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thank you, thank you for that. Eric, you too, boy.

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He could make a lot of money
off his voice. Dan, there is

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no doubt in my mind for this
debate Biden's going to be empt up on

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adderall or some other drug that makes
him seem all right, like you did

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with the State of the Union.
I'm not sure he seemed all right at

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the State of the Union. But
he was functional. Yet whatever it is

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they do, and I've been saying
this for years, they are able to

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get him better than you would expect
for an hour or two. But don't

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be mistaken. This is all about
Trump. Biden is barely relevant to this.

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He's more of a prop. This
is all about Trump. People know

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they were better off under Trump.
They want to see if he still got

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it. Ryan, tremendous job is
well. Always thanking my friend, Kelly,

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You're the best human. Sunshine.
Please join us tomorrow at four on

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the Dame Kapitla ship