WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:05.799 Streaming live. I mean, iHeartRadio. Wat. This is I on the 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:11.919 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:14.480 welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.559 Steve, he's Jay. Now we have Ryan with breaking news. This is 5 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:24.559 Eye on the Ball Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm gonna start 6 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:29.879 a little bit of University of Arizona news. Former Washington catcher Sydney Stewart commits 7 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.200 to Arizona softball. I guess, I guess. I don't know if it 8 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.079 was their their catcher from this year senior? Do we know or yeah, 9 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:42.799 I don't know. What what's your background? Does it say? Well? 10 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.640 The good thing is they need players like this. They just yeah, they 11 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:50.119 need to quality players. See what happens, you can kind of sense that. 12 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:55.960 I think that coaches getting stuff figured out, and and and and maybe 13 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.119 it's gonna take a little while, but it's going the trend. It's trending 14 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.320 up right. Well, Yeah, I mean, look, you know she 15 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:07.400 you know, they got to a super regional and in their situation was just 16 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.840 really about pitching. If you know, if she can just get some pitching. 17 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.159 I think she'd be just fine, but they need that, and and 18 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.840 three years into it, they still haven't had decent pitching. Does anybody know 19 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.040 where that Stanford pitcher is going. That's the one thing. The Stanford pitcher 20 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:23.599 who was fantastic to the player. I think she was going to, Oh, 21 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:27.959 here's the money, here's the bag, come here. Yeah, I 22 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:33.799 mean, I sure hope she got the degree from Stanford, uh before she 23 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.239 went to Oklahoma. But because I mean, why would you give that up 24 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:42.400 for any amount of money? I'm pretty sure I'm looking at right now. 25 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:47.000 I don't remember her name. That's why I said something Kennedy or something like 26 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:52.120 that. Okay, go ahead. R So, Emily step is a catcher, 27 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:56.959 she's returning from this past season. And then they added Emma Kevinaugh. 28 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.439 But they're saying that they still need some like Corn Rangel spots and does many 29 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.040 players. I think that's a kind of reason they wanted to add Stuart right 30 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.800 right. You don't have tickets to softball, do you? Do you? 31 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.439 I didn't go to a single game this want I knew that I want you. 32 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.360 I want to get They're not very expensive, and that's a good money 33 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:19.439 money situation if you want to spend some time out at the ballpark. So 34 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.439 I am I looking to Yeah, no, I you don't. This is 35 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:24.479 the first time in a long time that I have gone to at least one 36 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.919 game. But I don't know. I don't. They just never lined up 37 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:30.879 with one. I think, well, we're here a lot. I mean, 38 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.879 we're here during that time. I said. We talked to coach last 39 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:37.319 week or two weeks ago, Coach Brennan that we couldn't get to practice because 40 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:40.800 his practices were exactly at this time. Yeah, yep, yep, all 41 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:46.840 Rightick switch over to some NFL news X Raiders Defensive End Chandler Jones. Please 42 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:52.439 no contests, I may avoid Jael. Let me go over the d for 43 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:57.479 a little bit. So he pleaded no contest on June seventeenth to a domestic 44 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:02.639 violence charge, and we'll avoid all time if he meets certain conditions. You 45 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:10.120 see the ninety day Chelseonitz charge will be dismissed if he stays out of trouble 46 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:14.879 for the next six months, has no contact with a victim or you know, 47 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:23.080 except for the family court order according to records. Is that your side, 48 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.680 God bless you? Was you know can we just not Can we just 49 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.759 not beat up our girlfriends? Please? You knows tough, that's all. 50 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.280 That's it. Just you know, you got got all these you know, 51 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.680 we saw here, we saw here for you know, remember rich Rod with 52 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.879 his guys, and you know you've got all these great opportunities. You know, 53 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.240 you're in a position that not a lot of us get to be in. 54 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:47.280 All you got to do is not beat up. That's the last thing 55 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.280 they think of. I know, that's the last thing. I know. 56 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.919 When you're an athlete, I want to be I want to be kind here. 57 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.319 When you're an athlete and you've been given a lot because you can play 58 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.199 a sport well where you're going, you you think you can do a lot 59 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.240 of stuff. Yeah, and you and and I've seen it where you could 60 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.120 do a lot of stuff because they fixed it. Yes, yeah, might 61 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:13.479 telling you people took carrige, people to carry. There's a point though they 62 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.360 can't carry, cannot take care of you anymore. Yeah, yeah, No, 63 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.800 you're right. It's just it's I know that's just the way it is. 64 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:24.959 But it shouldn't be. No, I know, I know, I 65 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:29.720 know, I know, I know. I'm going back to this picture Najari 66 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.839 Stanfford, Stafford, Stanford. She has not committed and she has not committed 67 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.800 anywhere, although there is an item that says she has ain't some sort of 68 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:44.680 an ni L deal with some organization. So but I'm not seeing if she's 69 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.319 or she is in terms of her it's been a while time at school, 70 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.879 if she's gotten her degree, of what the deal is, because if I 71 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:57.160 my, if my, if my Stanford student softball player jumps into the portal 72 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.680 from Stanford and doesn't already have a degree, I'm tying that kid to a 73 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:04.560 rock over on the Scafford campus and saying, you're not going anywhere. But 74 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:10.560 that's just me, okay. Espe's over to a little bit of NBA news. 75 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.959 Knicks guard O g and Anobi has opted out of his contract and he's 76 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.959 going into free agency. According to reports, signed a four year, seventy 77 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:23.759 two million dollars deal with the Raptors back in twenty twenty with the player option. 78 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.319 So he did he oh, he was acquired by the next from the 79 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.560 from the Raptors and he declined the option is what you're saying, Okay, 80 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.000 So he's going somewhere else. He's going to go to free agency. He 81 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.480 doesn't want to be with the Knicks. I don't go ahead, just like 82 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.560 the Lakers thought the name there, you'll go to the Lakers. We'll talk 83 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.680 about the Lakers in the second after you finished. That's that's really what I 84 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.720 happened. That's all. Yet. Okay, did you what did you listen 85 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:54.959 to or see the new Lakers coach? I did not what a fantastic press 86 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.439 conference? He left two F bombs. Two f bombs in there. You 87 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:00.759 know what you know, people people talk about me, not coaches. I 88 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.439 don't give it an f I don't. I'm here to coach man. Yeah, 89 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.600 I don't give it. Hey, look, you know he's got the 90 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.720 job. You know, it's up to him to go out there, show 91 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:14.319 right right right, and if he's confident in himself, then help everybody else. 92 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.720 I played under coach k I had fifteen years in the league. I 93 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:20.800 do what I've done for a long time. I think. I'm okay, 94 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.279 yeah, you know, and let me ask you this. Let me say 95 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.319 this to you, because you've been a boss. You've been a boss, 96 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.360 and I don't know if you're a people person to one hundred percent, they'll 97 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:32.600 go there that if you you know the game. You know the game, 98 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.800 right, And I use Steve Curs an example, and he's a one off. 99 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:40.399 He's just an exceptional guy. He knows people, knows how to treat 100 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:46.120 people fairly, and otherwise he was He was a perfect transition into his job, 101 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.279 right, did all these things. He never had a coaching job on 102 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.519 any level, and here he did became what he became. Did he have 103 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:56.000 a good team, Yes, But tell me that it's not difficult coaching those 104 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.920 egos. Got ego guys, not one, not two, three, four 105 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:00.480 or five of them. It's hard. It's harder than you think. Look, 106 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.879 nobody taught me how to be a boss again, Okay, I mean 107 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:08.680 so I went to some management schools, but not to a school that said, 108 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.480 okay, in this kind of a crisis between two employees, this is 109 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.959 what you do. I never got any of that. It just is a 110 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.120 fielding. No exactly. Okay, So this is where I was going with 111 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.399 it. If you're a good people person and you could read a room and 112 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:24.600 know who to massage, who not the massage, and hug on times and 113 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.879 kicking the ass on another others, you're gonna be okay as a coach. 114 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.720 You're treating people fairly and all people want and that's all people want, and 115 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.839 especially in sports, especially in sports. That's why Steve did the transition very 116 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:39.279 well. I think Reddicks is going to do very fine. He's in a 117 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.839 tough situation, right but anywhere, anywhere, anywhere, Look look Tommy Lowy, 118 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.439 the guy here, perfect demeanor for the situation. He came in in 119 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:51.839 a tough spot after Sean. Sean was a one way guy. And I've 120 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.600 said this to to coach Tommy when I did the story for you guys last 121 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.920 year, is he was the perfect guy to replace Miller after what Miller had 122 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.040 been had done. Does that make sense? But the way he ran program 123 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.560 and and you know what, just just the way it worked. Yeah, 124 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.560 no, I hear you. And that's what me ask you. Have you 125 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.160 have you had bad bosses who didn't know people? Oh? Yeah, how 126 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.439 did that go? Not? Well? Exactly exactly. That makes my point 127 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.560 even more because you could be a good boss, but if you don't know 128 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.720 people, you're not a very good boss there. And you know there are 129 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.120 a couple of a couple of people in you that I just thought, how 130 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.279 did you get to be a no, no, no people? Fall forward. 131 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.039 What did you get people for such a term? People fall forward because 132 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.200 they don't. It's like the it's like the the malcontent eleventh grader who beats 133 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.320 up kids and just doesn't care about any thing. They move them out because 134 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.000 they don't want them with them, they don't want them eleventh grade. The 135 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.679 faster he's out, the faster he's out. Right, No, I yeah, 136 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.759 no, it's it. And look, there's nothing easy about being a 137 00:08:52.840 --> 00:09:00.080 boss, a coach or whatever. But what is easy and what should be 138 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:01.519 easy, I guess, and maybe it's easier for some people than this for 139 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.879 others is to be, as you said, just somebody who understands people and 140 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.519 treats people in a way that you would want to be treated. And that's 141 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.039 you know, it's it's simple. I mean, the whole the whole golden 142 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:15.360 rule thing. I don't want to get all religious, but the whole thing 143 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.039 of just treat people the way, you know, And that's what I That's 144 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.679 what I told the first time I became a supervisor at at t EP, 145 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.720 when when I mean all of a sudden, I was I was in charge 146 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.639 of people who I was appeer to. Right, I got promoted in that 147 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.559 department, And these are all people that we were all the same. Now 148 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.039 I'm their boss. And at the at at the first staff meeting we had 149 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.639 after I got the promotion, I said to them, said, I promise 150 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.720 you I will just try to be the boss that I would want to have. 151 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.759 That's why I'm going to try and be. And I said, and 152 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.960 and the other second thing I told him was I don't think I'm smarter than 153 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.320 any of you in this room, so I'm relying on you to make this 154 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.879 thing work. How did and how did that went? Well, that's what 155 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.000 That's all they wanted to hear. That's all they wanted to hear. It 156 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:03.000 worked really well. Fair be a parent or a transparent blah blah blah, 157 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.679 and that's it. I just I just never believed that I was smarter than 158 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:13.080 anybody or you know, I'm like I was. I was almost embarrassed to 159 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:18.559 be their boss because like we're all came from the same place. Yeah right. 160 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.840 The thing about it, like with Kerr, he had a good team, 161 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.080 he also had a bunch of egos. How do you besage? And 162 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:28.799 look, I was at teasing likely power. I wasn't doing the Golden State, 163 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.960 Golden State warriors, you know, when you got guys like you know, 164 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.960 Draymond Green and those kinds of guys. Man, there's there's a lot 165 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.320 of work that goes into having being able to manage those guys, even under 166 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.080 your conditions of telling the guys or and the women, I'm sure, I'm 167 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.559 just me. I'll try to be the boss that you want. You know, 168 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.759 I want to be from me. Did you have people who try to 169 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:58.039 test you? Eventually? And probably I Eventually I eventually hired a guy who 170 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:00.480 was just a big p We talked and we talked about that, and you 171 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.279 had to let him go with Yes, I ended up firing the guy because 172 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.240 he was just too much of a pain in the ass because he was commanding, 173 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:09.879 you know, all my attention and trying to get this guy to be 174 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.720 a good teammate. Yeah, he was your dream on Green. Yes, 175 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:18.320 eventually, did say enough for I scrubbed him from the department. Yeah, 176 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.799 I mean, do you know that was a quantity that could have been a 177 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:30.360 consequence it. No, it was very sudden. I finally just said I'm 178 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.759 tired of your crap, and you must have had the OK from above, 179 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.840 So there you go. I had I mean, I had, you know, 180 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:43.879 I had uh what do you call it, you know, kept track 181 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.159 of stuff, your documentation. And then finally there was a there was one 182 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.000 final incident that just said that's over the line. You're you're fired. And 183 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.480 it was a hard thing to do because on the one hand, I liked 184 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.360 the guy, you know, he was he was a really smart guy and 185 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.600 he was really good. On the other hand, there was a third he 186 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:05.039 was a big giant piece of stuff that was just he ruined our department. 187 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.440 Yeah, and you can't have people like that. And every place, every 188 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.200 place, a lot of places have that guy or girl. Yeah, no, 189 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.120 you do you end up with one of those. And I guess I 190 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.080 should have known that when I hired to me. It's just fascinating. Oll 191 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.720 he doesn't have any experience. He knows the game and if you know people, 192 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.480 yeah, you're halfway. Well. Again, with the amount of time 193 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.080 that JJ Reddick has put into basketball, I mean, you know, since 194 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.440 he was probably a little kid, you figure he's he's seen enough, been 195 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.200 around enough coaches to know what makes a good coach, what makes a bad 196 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.159 coach. Probably if he's a smart guy. And since he went to Duke, 197 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.039 I'm guessing he's a pretty smart guy, you know, knows the x's 198 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.200 and oh and that's what he said. You know, I played with the 199 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.399 coach k I played in the league for fifteen years, Luke Luke wont same 200 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.080 type of deal. He'd filled in for Shot Steve Golden State. It was 201 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.799 fantastic. Went to the Lakers, not so much because of the dynamic of 202 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:56.559 the players. Yeah, and you know, now you know he's out. 203 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.279 He was with Cleveland for a while. Because you can be a great coach 204 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.639 and be in a horrible situation where nobody would succeed, you can, Yeah, 205 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.159 you know, I mean, how many coaches have been crap coaches in 206 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.399 one place then they become great coaches, you know, at another place. 207 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:16.000 You know, there's coaches like that. You know, Nick Saban couldn't coach 208 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.679 in the NFL, and all of a sudden he goes back to Alabama and 209 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.919 he's arguably the greatest coach in the history college football. You know. So, 210 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.159 I mean it's just some things work in some places and some places they 211 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.200 don't work. That's just the way it is. And it's coaches they kind 212 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.279 of figure that out and kind of see, Okay, I gotta do this 213 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.759 I gotta do this without giving up what they sort of stand for and how 214 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.279 they want to do things. Those are the ones they are successful. I'm 215 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.559 sure Steve Kerr had some nights where you went home and said, what the 216 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:46.159 hell? No one going on? When he called the other day when we 217 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.120 talked to him, I said, yeah, there were times when I wish 218 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.679 I could be Steve Kerr. Then I realized no, not so much. 219 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.679 So much. In fact, one of our readers or listeners just texted me 220 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.320 Kerr saw how the Bulls were massaged by Phil and he used this as right, 221 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:01.360 right, I mean, think about the Yeah, the job that Phil 222 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.799 Jackson did with the guys that he had over there, and he won six 223 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.720 championships with him. Yeah, so there you go. Todayn't easy. It's 224 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.720 not. If it was, anybody could do it. Okay, let's take 225 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.000 our break. We're going to come back Jerry Stitt. We'll talk to some 226 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.360 old Arizona baseball, maybe some other stuff. He's now in the administration over 227 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.639 at Pima, but just get a sense of what he's up to and some 228 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.720 of his thoughts on where we are with the college sports these days. 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We have Jerry Stitt 299 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:26.559 from Arizona baseball coach, now an administrator. That Pima great Pima coach. 300 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.039 How are you? I'm doing well? How are you guys doing? Before 301 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.279 we ask you how to hit a screw up or a curveball up the middle, 302 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.960 we'll go to the questions because who knows. I wish I could do 303 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.160 that. I wish I could do that. I could help you, I 304 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.119 could help you. Yeah, I heard James said that you taught his wife 305 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.720 out of here. I remember that you are slow pitch softball team. I 306 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.400 think Ray Martinez got you to teach teach our wives how to hit. We 307 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:56.440 won a couple of titles out of that, so that's right. We've won 308 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.000 those big giant trophies that nobody wanted in their house. So we gave him 309 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.160 my dad, who used to come to all of our games anyway, just 310 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:06.440 a little side thing there, the good days. So coach, you had 311 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:10.680 a tribute, are you about Willie Mays? Could you kind of elaborate on 312 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:18.000 what that was? Yeah, I just really was my idol growing up when 313 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.759 I grew up. I grew up in Phoenix, and we were always I 314 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.279 was always a huge Giants fan with my dad, but unfortunately my brother liked 315 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:33.279 the Yankees. But yeah, we we would go to spring training games and 316 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:38.920 watch him, and we had Giants on the radio, Russ Simmons, you 317 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:44.240 know, and just every night I would when I could, I'd listen to 318 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.880 the games on the radio. I had I kept score I had a scrap 319 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.039 book. He was my guy, and uh, I saw him play a 320 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:57.039 few times. And the one clearest memory of it was down at the old 321 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:03.920 Municipal Stadium then on South Central and we're at a spring training game and and 322 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:08.720 he well, he was up and we were down the left field bleachers, 323 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.720 kind of between the third base and the foul pole and hit he hit a 324 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:19.880 pop up all over quotes to us and and my dad reached for it, 325 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.519 couldn't get it, and it bounced and came in it and he caught it. 326 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.359 He gave it to me and and uh, you guys got all of 327 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.640 it. This is this is a treasure for me. But like all kids, 328 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.480 it was it was the next day it was sandlot a brandy. Literally 329 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.200 we were hitting that baby around instead of putting it putting it up on a 330 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.759 shelf. And but as I, as I grew up, you know, 331 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:56.400 he'd always watched him and loved him and read every book was ever written about 332 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:03.759 him. And uh, and when when JT. Snow was was was with 333 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.359 the Giants, I was up visiting my friend Dennis Romley, who was the 334 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:15.519 catcher on our high school team, and he lived up just I love Stanford 335 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.599 in Palo Alto, and and we're going to go to a Giants game. 336 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.640 Is his son Timmy was playing. He was he was thirteen and playing pony 337 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:32.640 and so, oh yeah, So I called j T, see if we 338 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.240 get in early in the batting practice, and so, of course sure, 339 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.319 So the next day we went down there. He met us at the gate 340 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:44.720 and walked us in and he said to me, hey, whatever you do, 341 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.559 don't even look at Berry today. Don't don't, don't say a word 342 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.160 to him. He's in one of those moods. And that was that was 343 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.960 very bond. You know. When he was in that mood, you better 344 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:06.000 watch out. So we went to uh PP and we're standing right next to 345 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:11.359 the lane that runs from the dugout to the to the to the plate, 346 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.759 you know. And and Barry finished his last round and he and he walks 347 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:21.720 out towards the dugout and I try not to look at him. Of course, 348 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:27.440 here's here's Timmy with with his very bonds jersey on and gloves with bonds 349 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:34.559 written all over the bedding clothes. And so he walks he's walking out and 350 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.079 he says, hey, coach ste how are you doing? And I said, 351 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.160 I said, I'm doing great, but not as good as you. 352 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:48.640 And he said, yeah, I can always do better. And he looked 353 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.359 at Timmy. He says, who's this guy. I said this, this 354 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:56.839 my my friend's son, Tim Timmy Romley, and he says, he says, 355 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:00.759 hey, when you come in, when you come and the locker room 356 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.119 later, I'll give you a pair of batting gloves. Kimmy was like just 357 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.559 floating on air, you know. And you know, we had recruited Verry 358 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.680 out of high school and I saw him play a lot of times and visited 359 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:18.160 his home and Coach Kendall was really good friends with Bobby his his his father, 360 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.599 and of course he ended up going to Issue and but still, you 361 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:29.480 know, he was very cordial to both Coach Kendall and I as long as 362 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.920 I remember. And so that was kind of a special moment that a he 363 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:40.160 remembered me that b JT had told us that you know, you better watch 364 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:45.119 out. Yeah, I don't even look at it. So JT finished his 365 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.960 round and we went He went down the cage hit some teas always did this 366 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:53.720 after BP hit some t's make sure everything was right. So we were walking 367 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:59.200 down the tunnel getting to the locker room. And then I looked in Dusty 368 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:04.720 Baker's off and there was Willie sitting in a chair talking to Dusty in front 369 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.960 of his desk. And so I said, hey, hey, Willie. 370 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.839 I said, hey, JT, that's Willie May. He says, yeah, 371 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:17.279 come on in, I'll introduce you to him. So we walked in 372 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.960 and you know, there's Dusty and I'd met him a few times Dusty, 373 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:22.519 and he kind of gave me the nod your hands, eyes, his head, 374 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:29.319 toothpick in his mouth of course. Feet up on the desk and JT 375 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.480 walks up to Willie and he says, Willie, I'd like you to meet 376 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.240 Jerry Stip And he says another surprise to me. He says, I know 377 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:42.519 who you are. You coach with Jerry Kendall, and you coach this guy 378 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:47.079 too, you know, pointing to JT as this that's true. And then 379 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:53.039 he says, I'll never forgive Jerry for pulling the hidden ball trick on me. 380 00:25:53.319 --> 00:26:00.240 Oh wow. He says that wriggly Field, I'd hit a double off 381 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.359 the ivy. I'm staying on second base. You know, Jerry took to 382 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.920 throw in and and act like he threw it to the picture and and we're 383 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.440 both standing on second base and I step off the bag and he tags me 384 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:18.319 out and and then he says, and he was a rookie. I had 385 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.319 to laugh. Here's the greatest player on Earth. And j K pulls hid 386 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:27.480 and bal trick on him as a rookie has a pretty pretty good moment too. 387 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.680 So he was my idol, you know, like I say, just 388 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:40.680 every every special that was ever on uh Netflix or Amazon whatever, I'd watch 389 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:47.279 it and and and always just beside besides the number, the numbers, you 390 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.759 know, the incredible numbers he put up, and it was it was just 391 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:56.720 how he played the game and just uh, it looks like he was loving 392 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.759 every single minute of it. And and and that's what That's what I think, 393 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.839 more than anything attached me to And and I was. I was actually 394 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:14.559 watching the game on the Game of the Week with with Dizzy Dean and Buddy 395 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.119 Bladner when he when he hit that, when he hit his four home runs 396 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.880 against Milwaukee. So a lot of good memories about Willie. And in my 397 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:29.240 in my study right now where I am, I have four pretty good pictures 398 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.799 of Willie. One, uh, a very of large black and white of 399 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:40.119 the catch. Oh yeah, that is signed by Willie. So I got 400 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:44.640 some pretty good memories of a man. Well, Jerry, and we're talking 401 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.400 to Jerry Stiff from Arizona baseball coach. Jerry. You know when we were 402 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.880 kids, right, we had guys like that, you know, you know, 403 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.240 to me, right to me, you know, it was Sandy Kofax, 404 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.519 you know, And I mean I was I was seven years old when 405 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.240 his career ended. Yet you know the two or three years that I can 406 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.799 remember, you know, watching him still stand out to me, you know, 407 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.720 sixty years late, nearly sixty years later, and we had guys like 408 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.759 that. You had Willie Mays. You know, we talked to you know, 409 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.079 our friend Greg Hansen had Mickey Mantle. I you know, Steve had 410 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.480 you know, Pete Rose and Joe Morgan and those guys. We had those 411 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.359 guys. I don't know if it's the same today. And I don't mean 412 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.319 to be the get off my lawn guy. Yeah, people love show, 413 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.000 Hey o Tani, but you know who's who are guys that when you think 414 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.200 about growing up, you think about guys like that. For you, it 415 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.960 was Willy Mays. Yeah's right, it was always well in Like I said, 416 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:42.599 my brother was a Yankee fan, and I love Mickey Mantle and you 417 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:47.759 know, I love Mickey too, what a great player. And you know, 418 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:52.680 coach coach, coach Ken Drea. He has a whole room and how 419 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.279 dedicated to Mickey Mannell and the Yankees. And he has he has some Memorabiley 420 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:03.400 and I'm sure it's worth of but it is. It's incredible, you know. 421 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.640 But you're right, you attach yourself to see your idols and and you 422 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:14.079 just just kind of stick with them always. And that was that's so true, 423 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.160 I think. So Okay, so we want we want to get a 424 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.799 little into a little bit of a deep conversation here that that was pretty deep 425 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.759 too, though. But I was looking at your I was looking at your 426 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.359 bio on your Hall of Fame page on the on the air z on a 427 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:33.839 website, and the last line says that your doctor says his doctoral dissertation presented 428 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:40.119 the case for aligning athletic department goals and objectives with educational and social mission of 429 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:45.640 our universities. I thought, is there anything more timely than that right now? 430 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.279 And that that's kind of what universities are having to do because of the 431 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:55.480 finances of stuff they're having to absorb these athletic departments that have long been kind 432 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.440 of separate. Is that kind of where you were going with that? That 433 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.799 you know it has to be it all has to be together. What what? 434 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.039 I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on that whole thing. I 435 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.799 know how long ago that was you did that, or if you still think 436 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.359 about it, but it seems very pertinent to what's going on right now. 437 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.799 Yes, I do think about it, I and I and I do bring 438 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.599 it up often, you know. I talked I talked to Chip not too 439 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:32.480 long ago about about part of part of a big part of it was the 440 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.319 vision, mission and goals, part of what what the athletic department is doing. 441 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:45.559 And as I learned, and as I learned in my research and interviews 442 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:52.839 with lots of athletic directors and coaches around the West, is that the mission 443 00:30:52.880 --> 00:31:00.519 statement isn't worth the paper is written on it. It's how it's how the 444 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:11.200 athletic director, the president of the university see the role of athletics within the 445 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.880 community. And so often we got we get caught up and what are we 446 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.200 doing right now? But the vision part of it, and this is what 447 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:29.480 Chip is doing so well is looking forward and where are we going to be 448 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.240 in ten fifteen years. I'm sure this was a magical year. I mean, 449 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.640 it was an unbelievable year that the Cats had. But how do we 450 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:45.680 build on this? And how do we make the players appreciate and love being 451 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:52.240 Wildcats and want to be here more than any And that's part of it. 452 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:57.279 It's the co curricular part of it, not just athletics and not just academics. 453 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:06.160 It's how the community perceives that the players, uh and the coaches as 454 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.759 as part of the community, and and so often that is missing. But 455 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:17.559 I think I think in your earlier segment about the comment about the coaches and 456 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:24.599 how at the u A and how how dedicated they are to the community and 457 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:30.200 and and what we're trying to build here, I think that's that was the 458 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:37.279 biggest point of of my dissertation. What do you make of? What do 459 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.000 you make of today's n I L and so many things going on in the 460 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:47.880 financial situation that your your former school knows such thing as a former Wildcat. 461 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:58.400 Yeah, you know, the ni L money is uh, it's it's out 462 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:04.880 of control and and uh it doesn't look like anytime soon that it will get 463 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.720 back under control. I think one of the best things the n C two 464 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.519 A could do would would be would to put a limit on the time that 465 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.920 the transfer portal is open. But as we know now, it seems like 466 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.000 forever that it's open and kids can you know, hang out, hang out, 467 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.680 hang out, and then five weeks later they can dive into the transfer 468 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.880 portal. I think like a two week open period would be good. But 469 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:38.680 just like you look at some of the schools that that susy, you look 470 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:46.599 at Tennessee and I watched I watched the post game UH last night with coach 471 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.599 Fatello and and it's it's astounding the thing that you hear. It's like, 472 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:58.920 oh, here at Tennessee, we have everything we need. We have we 473 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:04.680 have the finances which we have, the players, we can get any just 474 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:10.000 about anything we need. And what he means by that is is we can 475 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.519 pretty much get any player we want. And we've seen you look at the 476 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.360 transfer portal from Jay Johnson at LSU, how many kids he's gotten out of 477 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:28.440 the transfer portal and who knows how much he's paying those guys. And for 478 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:34.199 me, some of those kids that get money in IL money that's the most 479 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.800 money they're ever going to make in baseball. They don't know that, right, 480 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.199 but you know, they get one hundred and fifty thousand, and by 481 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:45.599 time they pay their agent and taxes, you know, they might clear eighty. 482 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.559 So it's one of those things that it's almost tragic in my mind. 483 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:55.960 And and you know, when Arkansas was bounced out of their regional and their 484 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.119 coach Van Horne, who's he I watched. I watched his post game too, 485 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.719 and he said and he and it was incredible to hear him say that 486 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.920 we just need to get better players. We're just going to get better players. 487 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.400 You know, how does the coach put being bounced out of the regional 488 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.679 on the players? How about, hey, coach, how about saying I 489 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.920 should have done a better job of coaching. We the staff, we should 490 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:30.199 have done a better job of preparing for this, which is exactly what Chip 491 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.119 said when they were bounced. He didn't blame it on the players. He 492 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.760 said, we just have to do a better job of preparing and we will 493 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:44.079 in the future, so that we just can't. We cannot compete in thel 494 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.719 nil race and we've lost kids already. Trying to get him out of the 495 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.440 transfer portal because we just can't give him the you know, one hundred and 496 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:58.760 fifty, two hundred and fifty whatever they're getting from these other schools. So 497 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.719 that's kind of where I am with that. I think that the NT two 498 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.480 A and the schools have lost control. As they used to say, the 499 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.239 inmates are running the asylum and the kids are in charge. Yeah, yeah, 500 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.840 I know you're right, coach. We appreciate your time. Thank you 501 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:22.760 very much. Always you bet anytime, be well, be well, thank 502 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.960 you. Okay, yep, that was Jerry Stitt, coach, Jerry stick 503 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.159 I still need to know how to hit a curve ball up the middle. 504 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.840 That'll be for another day. No, that's not that happening anymore. I'll 505 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.960 give you that ham streaks are too old to be right. Well, tries 506 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.599 swinging a bat. Let's see see what you do to yourself. Let's cut 507 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.400 them off, cut that mic off and that's going to break. 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You'll 557 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.159 be here tomorrow, right tomorrow, I'll be Okay, I remember that. 558 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:23.400 I remember that. Hey, well, anybody want to call? Uh, 559 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.320 I just got a text. We had a good interview with coach stitt YEP, 560 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.079 funny story about all his Barry Bonds and yeah, you know, you 561 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.679 know you forget right. I mean Barry Bonds went to ASU. We saw 562 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.159 him play here. Uh, you know I hated him then and still hate 563 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.559 him. So that's the way. That was definitely the good old days of 564 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.320 baseball. Oh you know, so's Arizona Asu. Yeah, the rivalry there 565 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.320 during the you know, during the six pack years. And do you remember 566 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.199 Bob Horner? Oh yeah, I was like thirty seventy he was he was 567 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.000 late seventies. No, yeah, I asked because he put down a good 568 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.280 play. Yeah, Bob Horner. I hated that, to be my doll. 569 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.679 Hated that guy too. You don't like anybody. Floyd Banister hated that 570 00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.239 guy too. There were a bunch of those guys, you know, and 571 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.639 you think of the guys that came through here as part of that. You 572 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.400 know, Mark Maguire came through here playing for playing for USC, you know, 573 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.519 Mike Mussina. Uh, there were some guys that that that we saw 574 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.880 come through here. I didn't hate those guys as much as I hated you 575 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:24.519 guys. Yeah, they were. They were loaded, and there was some 576 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:31.119 incredible, incredible intense baseball games among those two teams. You know, in 577 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:36.199 the years, you know a lot. You know, before they expanded, 578 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.159 uh uh what became Sansett Stadium. You know, they would move the series 579 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.599 to High Corbett and uh, you know they would play over there in front 580 00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.280 of thousands and thousands of people, and uh god, those are those are 581 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.320 such fun games. You know, later on in your years, you didn't 582 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.239 realize what at that time, you didn't realize what you're seeing, what you 583 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.599 were seeing until you thought about it later on, thought, wait a minute, 584 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.199 I remember that. Now. That a big deal. Right. Let 585 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:05.360 me talk to you real quick about that Texas A and M thing. So 586 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.000 he loses last night against Tennessee. The coach I didn't realize he had a 587 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.920 connection to del Conte. He was his coach at TCU before he left. 588 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.360 So last night the question was asked, I guess later in an interview after 589 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.320 the game about leaving or the probable interest in Texas, and he blew up 590 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.480 and says, I took the job at Texas a and m to never take 591 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.639 another job again, and that hasn't changed in my mind. He said, 592 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.039 that's unfair to talk about something like that. I gave up a big part 593 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.199 of my life to come and take this job. I poured every ounce of 594 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.760 my soul into this job, and I've given this job every single ounce I 595 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:44.599 could possibly give it. So write that less than twelve twenty four hours, 596 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.559 he's gone. He's gone again. You're just again. Just don't answer the 597 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.079 question. Yeah, it says to know and let people speculate all they want, 598 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.519 right, Just don't answer the question. Let people because then now he 599 00:42:54.639 --> 00:43:00.199 sounds and appears. Look, he's got no credibility mine. You know, 600 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.880 he's got great ability for the Texas fans, but everybody else thinks that guy's 601 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.360 an idiot. You know, just if you're in a position like that, 602 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.239 just say, you know, I mean, like like the thing we go 603 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.599 back to the thing with jet Fish, right, yeah, I mean he 604 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:22.079 was like, where does that come from? Oh? What Torres just you 605 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.039 know from you know, you think about jet Fish and he was I'm here 606 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.920 here for the long haul. Yeah, and then you find out he was 607 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.920 looking for a job the whole last season. All of last season, he 608 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.559 was looking for a job during the year. I don't know what this, 609 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.440 but there and Torres, one of our guys on the radio every now and 610 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.280 again. Uh, he leaves for Texas in an all time scumbag move. 611 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.800 You can say that because that's what he does for a living. Jed, 612 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.920 We kind of knew that would happen at some point, right. Look, 613 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.039 he is what he is. He's a he's a maverick Bega Mount. He 614 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:58.079 came here, he was here for three years and he left. Yeah. 615 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.159 Hey, I'm perfectly fine, get right. He put perfectly right situation, 616 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.480 perfectly fine with it. But along the way, quit dropping the breadcrumbs like 617 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.760 saying I'm coming back, you know, instead, just shut up about it. 618 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.440 Yeah you said, I'm not talking about any of that stuff. I'm 619 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.480 trying to coach a season. Yeah, do that. It was mishandled at 620 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.119 the end, it was, it really was, you know, And then 621 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.079 you know, then he should you know, when when the ad said, 622 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:24.559 you know, I'm gonna come to your house. We're gonna film this, 623 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:29.159 we're gonna put it on on social media. She said, yeah, you 624 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.960 know that's not I love you guys, and thank you for you know, 625 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.320 thank you for the offer. Can we not do that because I've got some 626 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.480 people that maybe I don't want him, right, right, No, no, 627 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.960 sensible right. And if the athletic doctor said no, we're going to 628 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:44.199 do this, then I say, well, then you know what, go 629 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.159 hire somebody else because I'm you're not I'm not your kind of guy. He 630 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.320 wouldn't have done that. And then a month or so later, I don't 631 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.800 know the timeline, the AD's gone. Yeah, right then that guy's gone, 632 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.519 who had just gotten there months before. Right, So you know, 633 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.400 all these guys just just don't say anything. And I know it's hard, 634 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.079 right, you know, you go, you go back to the you know 635 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.159 when when uh uh Nick Saban said I'm the coach of the Miami Dolphins and 636 00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:12.280 I think less than forty eight hours later he was the coach at Alabama. 637 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.039 Just deflect the question and if you want people gonna speculate, let him speculate. 638 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.440 But if they don't have an answer like that, you know, if 639 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.039 you don't tell people I'm here, then you leave. You don't look stupid. 640 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.400 And that's part of the problem of being not a problem, but being 641 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.639 a journalist. We asked the questions, you give us the answers, and 642 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.159 this is what you say. Well, he said, well he didn't. 643 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.760 You know, what's he get that? Well, that's what he said. 644 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.480 Yeah, you know, do you love your wife? Yeah? I love 645 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:38.960 her very much, and then all of a sudden he's divorcing. Oh I 646 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.599 met the soulmate. Shut up, shut up, I met my soulmate. 647 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.400 You know, I didn't know she was around the corner. Well I kind 648 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.360 of did, but they didn't. Right, as far as you know, 649 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.800 I didn't know she was around the corner. You'll just they'll say, yeah, 650 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.679 you know you again. I mean I love that. And the what 651 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.639 do you call it an all times comeback from tauris? Yeah, that's pretty 652 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.079 good. Now we've seen this before. I'm come on, Uh, basketball 653 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.599 specifically call the party moving from here to there? Yeah, it's let them 654 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.639 do with it. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, the questions have 655 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.599 to be asked, right, uh, And it's not on them for you 656 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.239 to ask. If you decide to answer it, then be willing to stand 657 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.519 behind the answer. And if you don't want to have to stand behind something 658 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.239 that's gonna make you look stupid, then don't answer it that way. You 659 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:27.880 know, he could have just said, look, guys, just want to 660 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.000 ask, I just lost the National Championship game. I'm not talking about that. 661 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.719 Boom. Yeah it's over, it's over. Yeah yeah, no exactly. 662 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.079 Good answer, because again, journalists ask questions. Your job is to 663 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.440 win games, and that's it. No, exactly. And then christ Connie 664 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.840 running around like a like a wolf. He's up everybody. He's like to 665 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.199 do on the monopoly table, the little guy with the mustaches, and he's 666 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.880 buying all the property. Buy another property. Hey, you're gonna have Baltic. 667 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.000 I'm gonna take the other one. I'm taking digging board, yeah, 668 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.639 turking board will take it. All those fancy places. Well because I have 669 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.840 all the money. Yeah, pretty much. Him and other people, well, 670 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.800 good for him, good for you know, it's convention. You sit 671 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.039 down the road, do they you know, are they are they on the 672 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.360 spending spree that you know he's going to catch up with them at some point 673 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.199 or are they I'm still going to try to track him down because he's one 674 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.400 of my boys from northern New Mexico. Out of this kid, this little 675 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:27.880 Mexican kid, Hispanic can become del Conti. We'll see if yeah. Oh 676 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.039 yeah, yeah like big Spanic. Yeah sounds like Italian. No, no, 677 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.320 no, he's he has said that. He makes he sounds more Yeah, 678 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:45.440 you know the people. Yeah, yes, he's I wouldn't have thought 679 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:50.679 that. Yeah, from the hills and cows tows in northern northern towns. 680 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:52.559 Yes, okay, okay, So let's try to get him on. Give 681 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.000 him grief because he knows I want to give him grief. It's what we 682 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.239 do, you know. We're like the Hispanic group and we're good grief and 683 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.159 then we go have beers later exactly, you know, and then laugh about 684 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.280 it exactly. I mean, it's not it's not what we do that we 685 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.679 bring people down to our level. That's why George Lope was because of George 686 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.679 Loan, exactly. We bring people down to our level. We always do. 687 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.239 Always. Hey, look at you, look at j J. Meana 688 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.760 Noma. He got a manager job at TP. He thinks he's full of 689 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.679 it. He thinks look at how he walked, didn't walk like that, 690 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.320 even dresses fancy now like he works at Dylan's. I can. I could 691 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.119 tell some stories of it, but my brother and for Kanye, I'm gonna 692 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:35.320 telling the story because this this is a yessence of it, right, my 693 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:39.039 brother and for Kanye Attorney. And he's down there in our old neighborhood south 694 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.960 of south of Valencia Road, off the freeway, going door to door, 695 00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.239 all right, campaigning door to door talking to people. You run for Kanye 696 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.119 Attorney, you know, but yeah, yeah, And he answered the door 697 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.800 and some guy said, I'm not voting for you because you left the neighborhood 698 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.239 and you don't care about us. That's perfect hispanic. And I'm like, 699 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.599 okay, so you're gonna go vote for, you know, the lady who 700 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.920 really doesn't give a crap about you, all right, doesn't even has never 701 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.119 been south of twenty second Street. You're gonna vote for her instead of the 702 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.920 guy who used to live here because you're mad because he made himself better and 703 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.119 got out of the neighborhood, that's what you're gonna do. And basically that 704 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.639 was his any that makes sense, right, you you got out, you 705 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.400 made yourself better than me, So I hate you, and so I'm gonna 706 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.079 go vote for somebody else who doesn't give one crap a lot, right, 707 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:35.920 but I know it. That is the essence of that. Go listen, 708 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.400 go listen to the George Lopez concerts, the early ones and Neil there's a 709 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.599 whole segment about that about how how I'll give you a reason to cry? 710 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:49.119 Yeah, yeah, how we you know we we can never congratulate people on 711 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.679 making themselves better. We always want to bring him back down to our level 712 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.000 because it makes us feel better. No, exactly, it's a crab mentality. 713 00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.159 You ain't leaving this bucket. If I'm not going, You're gonna pull 714 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:05.079 your butt down exactly, and no disrespect. We'll go have drinks later exactly. 715 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.039 Okay, yes, we have three and a half minutes. Anybody want 716 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.280 to call give us a break, give us a break, give us a 717 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.280 call, and give us a break. I don't know how you can tell 718 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.559 him back. Uh. That was a good interview with coach Stitt. Uh 719 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.440 nice one. This uh this first part with with uh uh ray fortis a 720 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:25.360 lot of people, a lot of concerns about what's going on at you. 721 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.400 Let's see how they get out of it. Uh. We hope to get 722 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:34.679 uh desiree on the show to talk about stuff about what's going on. And 723 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.920 you know, my one of my questions I think has to be, did 724 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.039 you did you know this before you took the job? Did you have any 725 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.119 sense that this was going to happen? Because she's up against it, man, 726 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.679 look at look at you. I think she got the job because of 727 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.519 this. That they asked her to do this job, because I mean, 728 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.840 they had to know. And if they didn't, here's the the u A. 729 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.119 Yes, here's the deal. If the u A knew and didn't say 730 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.840 and didn't say, well, okay, stop there. Do you think there's 731 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.039 a chance that happened. No, really, I think there's a chance that 732 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.000 I do not. Okay, so because it would have been on her also 733 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.599 on her to do her due diligence to find out what's the financial decision? 734 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.000 Are you going to do? I think they brought Steve, They brought her 735 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.440 in to fix this. That's why she's here. I think I think that 736 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.119 that they felt that she could fix it, and they didn't think they could, 737 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.000 so that's why they made the change. That that's why she's here. 738 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:32.679 She's here. We'll ask her that question because uh, because it's important. 739 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.440 I think, I mean, would you have taken this job knowing that? 740 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.599 We asked her that, Steve, remember she said she took you in our 741 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.440 interview with her, and at the press conference she was asked about that. 742 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.719 She said, you know, I'm coming here to you know, to change 743 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.639 all. You mean depression, not the one that we had with her. 744 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.239 I can't remember that. I didn't believe. I believe if i'm my memory, 745 00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:01.920 I know it's mostly my memory is that the financial situation was already you 746 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.239 know, the deficit, all that was already known, and that the idea 747 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.960 was that they had to bring in somebody who could fix it. There was 748 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.960 a reason they fired Dave Hike, and she had to ask that why okay, 749 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.320 why why are you making this change? Is it? Well, we 750 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.280 got this financial situation and I'll tell you if they didn't tell her that, 751 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.719 then then the uvas, you know, really bad people. But they had 752 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:28.159 to have told her that. I believe they had to have told her that. 753 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.639 Yeah, Okay, we'll ask her. I'll ask her again. You 754 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:31.840 know, you know what we had. All we got to go do is 755 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.960 look back at the news reports. Is too when all this stuff came out 756 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.440 and when she got hired. We'll figure that out, we'll do I think 757 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.840 she had to know. I think she had to know. It's a tough 758 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.280 situation, and uh so we'll see. Uh, we'll see what happens from 759 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.920 this, because it's a lot of work. Yeah, because I think she 760 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.440 she said she relishes the challenge of coming into a place like this and in 761 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.880 fixing things. I think I think that was part of her part of her 762 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:04.760 main press car welcoming press conference, that she's looking forward to this quote unquote 763 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.519 challenge. You know, what else is you going to say to fix I 764 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.960 know I want out of here. Well, she could have said, I'm 765 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:15.199 not taking that job because there's no effing way anybody can fix it. Right, 766 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.519 I can say, effine can't. I you said you can't. We'll 767 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:24.280 be here tomorrow. Let's tell it. I said, you didn't say else. 768 00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.280 Okay, let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. Uh 769 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:34.760 we yeah, Scott Scott Thompson the Arizona basketball Well we'll be back tomorrow. 770 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:35.159 See later.