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with breaking news and this is I
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fourteen fifty. All right, so
we're gonna go ahead and start with some

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Arizona football transfer news. Former San
Jose State tight end Sam Olsen is going

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to be transferring to Arizona. He
had the fourth most receiving yards for SJSU

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last season and now he's joining his
former coach Brent Brendan and Matt Adkins here

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former Arizona Wildcat nose tackle. We'll
talk talk about a little bit about this

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earlier. Bill and Norton is now
committed to Texas, joining Joanna Quina.

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He was just their spring game a
couple of days ago. Yeah. That

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that's a tough one on Bill Norton
because he was a he was a big

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part of you know why They're defense
was pretty good. He just plugged up

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the middle. You know, he's
the guy that came here from Georgia.

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You know, when a guy goes
to Texas, you immediately assume he's going

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there with some dollar signs in his
eyes. And you know, good for

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him if that's a good opportunity for
him. Texas a really good programming.

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He's back up, you know,
went from Georgia, Arizona back to you

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know a place like Yeah, but
just again one of those things where the

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dog, right, you the d
dog, ce dog, d dog.

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Everybody wants to be an a dog. In order to be an a dog,

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you have to be with the a
dogs, right, And so yeah,

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I mean, look, I'm I
mean I was it was bunned when

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I heard he was leaving, but
not mad. He was bun He's got

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it, you know, he he
came here and he did. You know,

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he did like what Jacob Cowing did, right, went to a place

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that got him an opportunity. He
came here, he got an opportunity.

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This opportunity happens to be still in
college. But you know, you know

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state of Arizona, to go to
Texas, what are you gonna do?

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Yeah, and you get to you
get to chase that nil money and be

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in the relationship with his DC.
He's back in the SEC. He's gonna

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go over there and he's gonna,
you know, he's gonna I think he's

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gonna have some receipts for you know, not having a chance to play that

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when he was at Georgia, Right, Right, I think that's what the

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world is gonna be about now,
finding your level of competition. You know,

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you do be the big dog here, right, or be another dog

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somewhere else, right, and you'll
get you better, right, big fish,

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small pond, Yeah, the whole
right. Arizona has also added former

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San Jose State quarterback Anthony garcias a
round out just the roster and have a

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fourth quarterback to compete for any roster
spots in the future. He's gonna join

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Brandon Dorman and walk on Coltannabomb on
the roster. Another guy who's leveling up,

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right. Yeah, we'll see if
he plays. Yeah, And then

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we have some spring ball dates coming
up. April twenty third is tomorrow at

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they're gonna play at three fifty,
and then Thursday at again at three fifty,

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and Saturday is the spring game at
six six o'clock. Right, Yeah,

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we gotta get somebody on this week
to talk about that because we haven't

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done probably enough, we haven't been
out there because we can't. We can't,

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no apologies, we just can't.
We'll be at the Spring Green.

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Well, well we'll come back and
we'll have all the answers. Okay,

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and then f C two Sons women
women's team is named Roberto Garcia as the

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new head coach and Kaylee Carter,
former F two song player as the assistant

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coach. Did you listen to hear
that? Say that again? F two

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Sons women's team has named Roberto Garcia
as their head coach and Kaylie Carter as

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their assistant coach. I just got
that information. Yeah, me too.

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I just texted Kelly, see what's
going on. She didn't win. She

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went this year to the first year
in forever. I don't want to talk

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to Steve, you know, yeah, okay, three four years. Yeah,

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me too. I just came over
knows who knows what, you know.

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She's got things going on, kids
and stuff that kind of stuff.

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So yeah, well, you know, she she had a good run with

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the with FC two Son, so
you know, wow, that's okay,

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interesting, all right? Yeah,
Garcia has been with them for five years,

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and he led their youth team to
five separate state championships as well,

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So okay, there's some pedigree there
as well. Well, there you go.

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Arizona Baseball is a consensus top twenty
five and four national polls after joining

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Baseball America's and the coaches poll.
Right, Yeah, it took a while.

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I mean they were ranked in D
one Baseball, soything else you can

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go through them. They're ranked sixteen
and D one Baseball, seventeen by the

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National College Baseball Writers Association, also
seventeen by Perfect Game, and then number

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twenty by USA Today and Coaches,
and then number twenty three by Baseball America.

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Okay, what's the what was the
publication beast here? Baseball America,

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Baseball America, what's is the publisher
back in the day? Dude, Man,

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you're really gonna ask me to pull
that name. It's it's from the

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seventies. I know, you should
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What you don't? Yeah, I
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don't have enough because it was one
of those things that you wish you when

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you were a kid. At least
where's that Tucson? Oh maybe I can

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write for them. Yeah, this
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time ago. Yeah, I know
you're talking about it. Hank, Hank.

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We'll get a We'll get a text
here real quick. Yeah, well,

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you guys find that I can go
ahead a little bit of softball news.

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Kaya Altmeyer was named the Pack twelve
Player of the Week and Reagan Shaki

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earned Pack twelve Freshman of the Week
honors. Alt Meyer uh The earned the

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honors after her career and where she
uh led the sweep over Arizona State this

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past weekend. She batted six twenty
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runs. She also had a double
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kind of most of all I had
for local stuff. There wasn't too much

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going on locally. Uh. There
was a very strange ejection today in the

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Yankees game. I don't know if
you saw that. Maybe the strangest one

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I've ever seen. So Aaron Boone, five pitches into the game, believes

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that the which that was thrown hit
his batter. Umpire disagreed. He was

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told, you know, giving a
verbal warning, hey no more talking from

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the dugout, and Boone back down
said understood. The next pitch. A

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fan screams from right behind Aaron Boone, yelling at the umpire. Umpire turns

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around and a jects Aaron Boone.
Boone comes out and says, I said

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nothing. This is wrong like I. Umpire says, I don't care who

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said it. You're gone wowt me
let me wow wow it was it was

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Wendell's stats, Wendall's stead, not
Harry. Harry is like cold the hunter

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Hunter went. But yeah, so
he umpire said he believed that a player

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from the end of the dugouts said
it, and so that's why he said,

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I don't care who said it,
You're out of here. When the

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reality it's clear as day video you
can see the fans scream and then the

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umpire turn around and be like,
you're out of here, So defend this.

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He's literally directly behind. I mean, like, sorry, my serious

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boon through his voice, I didn't
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want to be there? Got called
out a ventriloquist situation. Wow, that's

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awesome. That's awesome. All right, I thought you'd enjoyed that one.

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Yet. Nelly Korda is going to
put her win streak on hold. She's

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going to forego playing in the next
LPGA event to get her body some rest.

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She won five in a row and
two majors. You get out of

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here, Scotty Scheffer. You haven't
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five years old. Speaking of Scotti
Scheffler, I had this. I saw

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a tweet earlier that I saved.
I thought you might find this interesting.

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Jay. So in his last five
events, Scotti Schffler has placed first at

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the Arnold Palmer, first the Players, second at Texas Children's, first the

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Masters, and first at RBC Heritage. That's sixteen million dollars in winnings over

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just forty four days. Man.
But then you know what they were saying

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though that if you're kind of because
they're saying, well, you know,

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Tiger Woods and all your compare thements
are like that saying if you compare the

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money, you see the money he's
making. Now, why you know it's

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that big amount if you I don't
know what the right word is, but

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if you apply how much money it
is versus what Tiger Woods was winning when

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he if Tiger Woods would have won
in those same five tournaments, Tiger Woods

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would have won like eighty million scale, it up. Yeah, scale Tiger

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would have been worth you would have
won like eighty million dollars or something like

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that. It's crazy. But you
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him, and you know, there's
always those comparisons, you know, Jordan

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and lebron and YadA YadA, yadda, Scotti shit. Watching him play,

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he's just he's got that. He's
he's dominating. And you know, the

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fourth round started yesterday. He walks
out and eagles the second chips in and

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eagles the second hole. It's like, you guys, have no chance.

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Is in the hazard and still you
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saw him hit a shot. He
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So he's hitting out of some trees
and he knocks it up next to the

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whole. It makes the putt,
that's the one I saw, and he

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gets a par after putting it in
the water. Yeah, that was unbelievable.

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Come on, guys, it's not
fair. I also saw this Tucson

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native and free agent cornerback Levi Wallace
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We're moving on, moving on.
Where was the Steelers? I believe the

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Steelers. Steelers last year Buffalo the
Steelers. That's good, I believe.

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Yeah, you know, keep getting
employed man. One of the great stories

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from Tucson. Yeah, I mean
old time, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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A guy who just was kind of
didn't you barely even get undersized.

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Dude got recruited and now how many
years is he six or seven years?

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Coming from Alabama? Alabama? Right, that's a perfect example of betting on

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yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally don't bet on yourself, Jake,

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You'll lose, you know, yeah, I know. It's even money

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not happening. You know, we're
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A couple of things. Women's golf. You have a women's golf. They're

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not doing so well. The in
the in the pac TWEFF tournament. You

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know, it's one of those things
where you know you win the tournament,

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you automatically get in the n C
douable as you don't win the tournament,

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and you know you're you're at the
you're at the whim of the Division one

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Golf Committee. After two rounds,
they are currently in seventh place. There

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are eight strokes out of the lead. I think I think I'm kind of

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a magic number you want to get
to is probably fourth place and fourth place

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right now as U c l A
at minus one, Arizona's plus eight.

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Well this turn, this tournament's up
in Pullman. I can't imagine the weather's

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all that great up there. Maybe
it is, but uh it's a place

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called the Poloose Ridge up in Uh. So they got one more day and

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we'll see how they do. Well. Okay, did you just see the

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world is coming to this Cooper Flag? You know who Cooper Flag? Yes,

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of course, the Duke number one
guy. He's gonna sign with Creative

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Artists Agency c a A as the
n A l A guys, that's what

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the world is coming to. Well. C A is like a power agency.

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Yeah, and then TV movies.
Yeah, so that's why we were

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just three four years ago. You
couldn't talk to these guys agents. And

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additionally everyone's wondering why all the Duke
players are having a mass exodus. Well,

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they're gonna have less player time or
less playing time, less time on

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the ball, and they're probably having
their NILS deals possibly shrunk down to fit

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in the big Cooper Flag deal coming
right over. And I just saw this

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from Sean Sharania. Charlotte Hornets are
interviewing JJ Reddick for their head coaching job.

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Mm hmm no, but that doesn't
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The easiest way to become a coach
becoming become Steve Curse same way T

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and T Yeah, ye smart.
Yeah, he's very smart smart, But

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Steve was the same way practical a
person, you know, people person.

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At least Steve was a GM before
that, right, well, because of

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the same reasons he was good at
the stuff. One other note this got

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passed today by the Division one Board
of Directors. Uh, the PAC twelve

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is officially no longer a Power five
conference. Uh, the the board moved

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there. Uh, they are now
considered a non autonomous FBS conference, meaning

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basically, there a group of five. Will they be renamed? Well,

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I don't know what they're gonna do. I think you know, there there's

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State from now. They're sticking with
the brand as a you know, PAC

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twelve, but they're they're no longer
have the voting rights that the PAC twelve

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has had. And the Power five
conference, Uh, there's it's it's now

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four, there's four and six.
So since then since the announcements, now

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one's at Oregon State anymore. Neither
at Washington State. Through the president's leaving

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right the president, coaches are leaving. Coach, we saw, oh,

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we saw. I know if you
saw. Damien Martinez canceled one of his

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visits, the one to Kentucky.
So he was going to get down to

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three now, so down to three
Miami and Tennessee. I believe there's a

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chance. That's what people are saying, the saying, you know, oh,

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he's coming here. Yeah, we'll
see. See. I'd love to

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have him as an air zone man. I'd love to see that guy in

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the Arizona uniform. Yeah, Ago, all right, Yeah, let's hit

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the road. Uh yeah, let's
let's uh, let's hit the road.

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We're gonna come back. Rebecca Kidos, the head coach at PEMA for Pima

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Softball, twenty six wins in a
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it. Hopefully we don't. She'll
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would really be mad at us,
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Ball on Tucson's sports station HIF Fox
Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back

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to wire the ball here today one
day. I'm Steve your Jay. We

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have Rebecca Kitos, the women's softball
coach at Pima. Coach. Are you

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doing I'm good, How are you
guys? Thank you for having me on.

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Yes, yes, what kind of
magic is going on at Pima?

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What's going on with her? It's
really simple. I'm not really coaching these

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girls that are kind of playing on
their own and going base to base and

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I just stand there and guide them. So all the credit to the girls.

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They're just playing really loosey. Come
on, there's more to it than

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that we know, and we're trying
our best. You know, we held

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off calling you as the streak was
going on because we don't want to jinx

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it. So are you superstitious?
Are you? You know you're doing things

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like getting up on the right side
of the bed, putting your sock on

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the same foot and all that stuff, or how do you handle a winning

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streak like this? One hundred percent, we are extremely superstitious. I don't

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even say the word. I don't
know what you're talking about. We just

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stick to our routine and I don't
think we've showered in a couple of months.

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So you're not superstitious. That's funny. So you are extremely supersious.

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So Saturday, you guys were on
the brink of love losing and you found

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a way to come back. How
was that? Well, it's not the

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first time this team has done that. They like to do that. They

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like to put a little scare in
us, and they do really well playing

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with their backs against the wall.
And like I said, at this point

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during postseason, a win is a
win, and they just they just seem

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to keep figuring it out. So
we let them compete. Did I mean,

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did something happen? Was there a
change an approach, a change in

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approach, a change in anything that
you know started this or did it just

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all of a sudden just start and
then snowball? How did this? How

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has this come about? So?
I think the very first game that we

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played the start of the season was
Salt Lake and they were ranked number two

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at that point and we beat them
with a freshman on the mound, and

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that I think kind of just opened
everybody's eyes of what we were capable of

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at that moment. And they just
they just continue to get better. They

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compete really hard, and I think
we have a team that hates to lose

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more than they like to win,
and I think that's what we are are

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running on before this started. You
guys are nine to eight. What are

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you thinking of that point? You
know, just like at that point,

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we had such a good postseason schedule. Everybody that we played I'm sorry,

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yeah, everybody that we played in
January was ranked in the top ten and

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we beat them or we either split
with them. So it was a very

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good schedule to either win or lose
with because we it was a good point

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itself where we were okay, all
right, has there been a particular I

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guess when you're winning that many games
in a row. Everything's going well,

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you know, but he's been a
particular area that's been you know, kind

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of maybe exceeded some expectations a little
bit, you know, pitching, hitting,

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you know your defense, Uh,
you know, top of the order

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or whatever. I mean, what's
what what's got your eye in terms of

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why this has been happening? I
think I think our team is very very

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young. So we have a lot
of girls that are just that are just

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excited. They're happy to be here, and that's the key they buy into

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They buy into it. A lot
of the girls that we've recruited have come

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from South Point to be no very
good winning program, so they're used to

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winning. So when you bring in
kids that are used to winning, it

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sets the standard for them when to
get here. Yeah, no question,

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no question. You're even better on
the road than you are at home.

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What's up with that? Yeah?
Yeah, you know, I don't think

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it really cares where we play.
We have a job to do and we,

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like coach Kendrea used to tell us, it doesn't it doesn't matter who

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we're playing. Our Our thing is
always by how many are we gonna win

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by? So it's a mentality before
we get on the field. Yeah,

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so all right, so give us
a little bit, tell us a little

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bit about your team. Uh,
you know who who've been the people that

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have sort of been key for you, you know, pitching, hitting,

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defense, whatever it is. U
throw some names out to us as to

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as to who's been really sort of
the key to all of this for you

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this season. Yeah. Obviously,
our our our girls getting all the attention

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right now, are are our quiet
ones. Camille Zapeta is our second basement.

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She is on a on a hitting
streak right now. We don't talk

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about that because I just need her
to do her job. But she's our

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second basement, our sophomore. She's
getting some real big looks right now from

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how from UTEP from West Texas is
number one in the country. We have

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Mallory our leader sophomore behind the plate. Jasmine Waddell, who is eleven and

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one, I believe or ten and
one. She's our lefty from sen Manuel.

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So just a lot of good things
on a lot of key players.

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I heard you talk about this,
so maybe ten days ago, around that

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time that you're not doing anything coaching, you told us the same thing.

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But you're probably just choking of course, what are you doing or are you

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just filling out the lineup and they're
doing the work. To be honest with

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you, we have such good depth
on this team. Whether it's pitching or

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defense or hitting. It doesn't matter
what lineup I'm putting out there. It's

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working really hard to make a lineup
because whatever we're putting out there is just

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seems to work. So we're just
kind of running on fumes right now and

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riding the wave of competing. So
I was gonna ask you, and then

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Ray is next to you, probably, but is this the school record?

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All these wins for me as a
head coach, it's definitely a record.

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The record is thirty seven. I
believe that was with my pitching coach,

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NICKI Johnson, who was a national
champion for that team at seven. Okay,

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all right, thirty seven straight wins. Sorry, I mean that's to

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have a number because you know,
we all know, I mean those of

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us who played baseball. You know, on any given day, a baseball

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team just doesn't play well, a
pitcher doesn't pitch well, you can't get

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any hits or whatever. You know. I'm looking at these scores. You're

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scoring twenty runs and those kinds of
things. You know, how do you

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avoid the whole you know, oh, we didn't nobody plays well today?

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Thing? We I think we you
know what, we have a roster of

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twenty five girls. So every day
in practice we're scrimmaging, We're going live,

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every pitcher is throwing, everybody's playing
different positions. So by the time

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we get to a game, it's
not foreign to us. Yeah, it's

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just like a normal practice day.
We are scrimmaging every single day. We

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have thirteen pitchers and we're just working
really hard. Is that new? Is

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that? Is it a change from
the past. Yes, My roster is

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definitely bigger this year, and we
just you know, we need to we

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need to be able to play every
single day if we want to compete in

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such a great conference. Okay,
all right, so you've got you've got

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you guys are coming up with I
think, did I see you guys Central

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tomorrow? Is that is that who
you have? Correct? We're on the

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road against Okay, so you're on
the road for four games coming up.

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You know again, you know,
how do you how do you keep your

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focus with all this and not seriously, I mean not think about a winning

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streak. How do you do that? It's what we try and keep it,

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excuse me, really simple, Like
we tell the girls whenever they're getting

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trying to do as less as possible
for the biggest results. Right, So

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if we're coming out to practice,
our practices are you know, they're not

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like in the fall where they were
two three hours long. We're out here

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for maybe forty five minutes to an
hour and just working really hard and getting

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out. We're not changing our routine. We're still lifting weights every every morning

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and doing study hall. So even
I'm in a routine is key. I

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think to the success on the field, we've been there. How many years

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have you been there? This is
my fifth year. Did you kind of

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sense that this was going to happen
or maybe longer to do, or that

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you were building to something like this? Yeah? Well, you know,

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bringing in this this recruiting class,
we had a really good idea of what

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the goal was. Because we signed
such a good recruiting class. Next year's

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class is even better or as good. So my expectations are through the roof.

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We were waiting for this, for
anticipating this. The conference are so

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good. Everybody we play is just
dynamite. Well, I was going to

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ask you that, you know,
the historically this has been a great conference

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with you know, you know all
the teams. I mean Central has you

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know, been around for a long
time. You have a pie all of

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these schools have been i mean historically
really good. How has the conference maintained

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that over the years. It just
because you're in Arizona and Arizona's a place

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where girls go to play softball.
I mean, what what's the magic there?

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Yeah, everyone as a hotbed for
softball. So you can go from

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you can go to Phoenix, you
can go to Prescott, you can go

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anywhere in the state and find good
ball. So, you know, and

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we're recruiting against all all the schools
are recruiting each against each other. So

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it's really a matter of time of
how much you're putting out there and all

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that extra work recruiting, you're getting
to bring in the kids where you want.

407
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.599
And I'm sure you have the locals
who want to play for you too,

408
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.920
because it's my understanding that a lot
of the roster is built of little

409
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:33.519
locals, correct, correct, And
so I'm very happy with the production of

410
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.359
our local kids. These are the
ones I wanted. These are the ones

411
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.279
that stayed home and chose to represent
their local junior college. And I'm just

412
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.640
so proud of them because they could
have gone to other places and I got

413
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:48.279
the ones I wanted, and I'm
very happy. So how does that happen

414
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.400
that? I mean you have to
be out there, you know, going

415
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.599
to all the games and seeing all
the players. I mean, is recruiting

416
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.680
still like that that you know they
need to see you to know that they

417
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.559
want to come and play for you? Or is it you know, are

418
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:06.559
you kind of a program that they
just gravitate towards. You know, recruiting

419
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.279
doesn't stop. And I think that's
ninety percent of the job, is recruiting.

420
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:11.920
Yeah, you have girls that want
to stay home and play, but

421
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.240
it takes extra work to go out
there. You're not just recruiting the kid,

422
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.920
You're recruiting the family. You want
to show them what we have to

423
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.400
offer, all of the wrap around
services that we have. It's a great

424
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.240
place for me and we want to
keep our local kids home. Sorry about

425
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.720
this question, I should know us. Is your dad still Is your dad

426
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.400
still working with you? Say that
again? Is your dad's still working with

427
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.279
you? Is my dad yes,
my dad is a volunteer on staff.

428
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.720
Yes he is. Okay, did
he ever go through something like this?

429
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.079
I? You know, I after
doing some research, I think he did

430
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.599
a streak of eleven but he had
some great, great teams, and his

431
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.359
teams they went to the championship,
and like I said, I would trade

432
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.200
all of this in to win the
one that counts, and that's our ultimate

433
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:02.039
goal. All right, Well,
Becca, know uh again, I'm I'm

434
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.480
really hoping we didn't. We didn't
jinx this for you. It's great to

435
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.960
see you know what you guys are
doing over there. Thank you, you

436
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.880
know, and you know, I
mean, look, this town has followed

437
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.160
Pima softball. So you've got a
few games left here home games. But

438
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:19.359
you're at Central tomorrow and then you're
at Eastern over the weekend, right and

439
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.680
then when when are you back?
When are you back here? We we

440
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:29.880
aren't back until I believe that mark
against our first sophomore day against Yaba Pi.

441
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.359
Okay, in light of s in
light of saving the city water,

442
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.359
you might want to take a shower. Well, there's twenty five girls that

443
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.599
have to people has the money to
come, you at least have to walk

444
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.720
you at least have to wash the
socks. A lot of Victoria's secret,

445
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:56.920
but at least wash the socks.
Okay, at least that much. Thank

446
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.599
you so much, and and best
of luck the to the way. I

447
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:07.279
appreciate it. You good. Look, please don't tomorrow. That just scary

448
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.880
thought, because you know, locker
rooms are stinky to begin with it.

449
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.160
If you've ever been to a hockey
locker room, you know what I'm talking

450
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:17.480
about. A dang. I hope
you didn't become the kiss of death chain

451
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.079
you started it because we called it. We'll see what. Well, yeah,

452
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.000
okay, So as as she mentioned, they've got they've got Central tomorrow

453
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:32.359
Saturday, they've got a double header
up at Eastern Arizona April thirtieth. Their

454
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April thirtieth, are back with Yava
Pie so and then they then they then

455
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.720
they got Arizona Western and then the
Region one tournament. So good luck to

456
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them. And man, this is
look, it's it's cool to see that.

457
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You know, all these teams that
are playing right now. You know,

458
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.640
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459
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460
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461
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462
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app. Hey, welcome back to
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511
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I'm Steve, He's Jay. We
got Kevin with us eighteen minutes for

512
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you guys to give us a quick
call. Let us know what's going on.

513
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See how you are doing. Outside
of my voice, I'm too four.

514
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Just give us a quick call.
Yep, you know it. We're

515
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.599
we're at a point in the you
know, in the year. I guess

516
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.920
where stuff starts to slow down a
little bit. We're talking you know,

517
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.920
baseball, softball, and you know
football practice, spring practice coming up.

518
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.119
That's gonna end this week with the
spring game on Saturday. What are you

519
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.840
gonna talk about Steve Well, you
had something for Oregon. Yeah, it

520
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:14.199
was an interesting thing. Hannah del
Gatto, the the Oregon softball player who

521
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.599
crashed into the fence, broke her
fractured her neck and her spine. Uh

522
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:25.519
not this last weekend, but the
weekend before she had a They she's in

523
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.920
the neck brace in a whole bit, but they put her in the game

524
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.880
to get a start on senior Day. I guess just went in for a

525
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.800
pitch or whatever, and uh and
uh, you know, just to you

526
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.840
know, sort of a tribute to
her. I guess, you know,

527
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.960
for lack of a better word,
but you know, she there's a photo

528
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.039
of her on Twitter and she she
just got a neck brace on obviously because

529
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.159
of you know, he break your
neck, you need a brace, I

530
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.519
guess. But you know, good
for her that she's a hopefully they say

531
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:53.079
she's gonna have a complete recovery.
He's just probably gonna take a while.

532
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.360
Yeah, yeah, no, good, that's good news. Have we been

533
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.760
talking about it since it happened?
Yeah? Yeah, well again, I

534
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.639
you know, I saw it,
so it was it was it was a

535
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:06.119
scary looking thing, and uh,
you know, and it happened, but

536
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.000
you know, that's when you play
sports man, you do things like that.

537
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.079
And you know, she she she
was giving it her all on that

538
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.519
play and it ended up, you
know, with a potentially life changing injuries.

539
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.079
Yeah, wants to think when you're
when you're on a playing field or

540
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.480
a court and you're just you know, doing what you love and all of

541
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.039
a sudden can be taken away on
a given day. Right, this is

542
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:31.840
what happens. Again, if kids
want to call, hey, that was

543
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.440
fun with Rebecca. Yeah, you
know, and got of tictions from Ray

544
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.800
and it was a good job.
Yeah, no that you know, she

545
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.280
you know, she's but look she
stepped in some big shoes, you know,

546
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:49.679
with her with her dad and and
uh and the whole bit and uh

547
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.719
you know, and he's still out
there helping her. But you know,

548
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:53.800
good for her that that this is
you know, something like this is happening

549
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.039
for her because she's uh, you
know, she's she's put in the work

550
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.159
and you just hope that that you
know, things go well. But man,

551
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.880
that's that's a that's an incredible an
incredible streak. Uh. You know,

552
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.920
sure when twenty six games in baseball
or softball, right, well,

553
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:13.960
so many things have to go right, for you to win a game,

554
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:15.880
and it's easy for just one or
two things to go wrong and you lose

555
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.639
a game. And uh and for
her to you know, pull that together

556
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.719
is a's a pretty cool thing.
So good for her. Yeah, good,

557
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.159
that's great. That's great. I'm
gonna call yeah sick, this call

558
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.639
higher on the air and on the
ball. Hey Jay, it's Kim again.

559
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:39.920
Yes, sir, I'm sort of
wondering what cause student to associate me

560
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:49.719
with some chicken squat dude that would
make an idol. He's checking on everybody.

561
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.280
I think he thought it was me
at some point. I just think

562
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.400
you're you haven't called it a while, and I think at some point you

563
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:00.760
call me cranky. So I'm I'm
going back into my row decks and and

564
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.440
checking on everybody who said I was
cranky. So there you go. There's

565
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.199
your here's the bottom line, Steve. If I wanted to call somebody out,

566
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.679
I'll call your show and du no. And in addition to that,

567
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:20.360
you text me because you've done that, So there you go. Well you've

568
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:25.360
been eliminated, Jim no longer aspect, So I want to know. I

569
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.599
listened and listened and listened to you
guys talk about the failure of the basketball

570
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.000
team to go any further than they
did. Yeah, well, what did

571
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.239
you decide was their downfall? What
aspect? Good question, that's a great

572
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.760
question. Let me say this,
Jim and then to Jay can chime in

573
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:49.079
all year and then if if if
my guy here, Jay disagrees with me.

574
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.800
I've said it all year. Two
things that I was concerned about the

575
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:57.519
most Bollows free throw shooting and and
Caleb going crazy and not uh not hitting

576
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:04.800
shots and going not crazy, going
going guard in a bad game. If

577
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.920
those two things happened, this team
would not would not survive it. Eventually,

578
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.679
it did. It took a while, but it did. It all

579
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.679
happened at once and again, as
we said all year long, there were

580
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.760
games that they lost. We said, if they do that in a game

581
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.039
against a good team in the NCAA
tournament, they'll lose. And that's exactly

582
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:30.400
what happened. Well, where I
come from, which is Indiana and basketball,

583
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:39.800
there is almost a religion why you
would have hardly looked any further at

584
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.280
the success or failure of a team
in an eighteen year old point guard.

585
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.119
Yeah, but he's he's not a
tem but see Jim teams win with young

586
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.840
point guards, especially in this day
and age, where Jim, by the

587
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.239
time you get to by the time
you get to college, you've played so

588
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.320
much basketball, you're not really he
was already two years in. Yeah,

589
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.239
two four years. He's a sophomore, Jim. Yeah, no, I

590
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.440
I no, I he just wasn't
good at the end of the year.

591
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:15.400
He just wasn't good. And it's
that simple. I don't think anything partly

592
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.239
because of his age. I'm not
sure I agree with that, and I

593
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:27.679
don't. I don't think he's a
prototypical time point guard either. Uh yeah,

594
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.000
yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, he was live

595
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.800
it this way. In terms of
guys on the team, he was the

596
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.960
most I thought, the most well
equipped point guard. Jade and Bradley pretty

597
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.320
good. Yeah, but he's not
a distributor. But he's not so much

598
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.840
of a distributor. You know.
He takes the ball to the wall at

599
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.800
the point, and that's the point
I'm going at, And it's the point

600
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:57.960
guard that distributes the ball since the
floor and everyone else operates off his efforts.

601
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.920
Yeah, they haven't had that guy
since teaching mconnall. TJ. McConnell.

602
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.199
Yeah, well, I'm thinking of
Mike Baby and those guys. Well,

603
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.199
that's a long time ago. You
were a young man for that.

604
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.280
No, you were, now you're
still all back. Then, I'll let

605
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:22.000
you go. Thanks, you've been
eliminating throughout the list. Yeah, okay,

606
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.880
thank you. You know, I
I don't know. I mean,

607
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.519
I think I think Colin Boswell is
more point guard than he is a two

608
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.320
guard. Yeah, very much.
Right. It's funny. He was very

609
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.679
capable the year before, right,
How could you go from very capable to

610
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:44.800
uncapable in a year. Honestly,
he wasn't incapable. There were just some

611
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.639
games where he just was very big
games not you know, not good well

612
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.199
more. I think he was more
the most part, Steve, he was

613
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.320
pretty good, uh more often than
not. For sure. I was,

614
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.000
okay, I'll go fifty to fifty
on that. You can go that way.

615
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.880
I'll go fifty to fifty because you
was one a guy that was that

616
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.360
was very good at some point,
wasn't very good anymore or even halfway good?

617
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:07.559
Am I wrong? No? I
don't think you're completely wrong. I

618
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.599
was gonna say that I think his
game lacks focus. I think on the

619
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.920
or like it. You knew the
talent that he had, which is what

620
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.000
you're speaking, could you've seen it, but he wasn't on the court.

621
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.920
It didn't seem like his game was
focused on any one aspect of it.

622
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.000
It was like, well, let's
see what happens this game. And it

623
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.760
was very clear. And they're throwing
different things out of every game. So

624
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:28.880
he's either gonna be able to excel
or not excel because his game is not

625
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.480
consistent in that way. Sure,
and it was very clear either from the

626
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.159
beginning at some point when you knew
he was not gonna you were not going

627
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.360
to see the good Boswell, if
he had an airball or something went bad,

628
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.679
he was not good. Yeah,
And we did have a couple of

629
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.800
players like that on this on this
year's team. To give me the other

630
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:46.599
ones, I mean, I feel
like there are some games where no,

631
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.400
I don't think. I think I
think there are some games where bollowed earlier

632
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.280
in the season. Specifically I'm talking
about where like you kind of get a

633
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.639
vibe of his effort being a certain
level, or his ability to get up

634
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.719
and down the court being a certain
level against a certain tea. He was

635
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.760
not exactly he was definitely not a
shape when the start. I think,

636
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.280
you know, as you're watching the
I think there were games where Caleb Love

637
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.760
You're like, okay, well he's
either you know, mister inferno hot fire,

638
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:09.960
or you're trying to get the Caleb
Love who's not going to make a

639
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.920
three and tap whatever. So I
think we had a couple of players,

640
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.800
specifically guards, that you know,
we're up and down on their ability to

641
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.880
what would you say? And I
just popped in my mind, what would

642
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:27.239
you say? The biggest mystery of
this team was just why they could be

643
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.119
so bad at times, well against
good bad teams, right against bad teams.

644
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.360
I mean, what against any team. I mean, well, you

645
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.280
know it eventually Stanford, Oregon State, I know. But what I'm saying

646
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.239
is, but you know they were
I mean, they just that they could

647
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.119
be so good and then be so
bad. Yeah. Well, my thing

648
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.320
is they were bad against bad teams
until Clemson came in. It wasn't that

649
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:50.960
a bad team. It was not
a bad team. They were not a

650
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:57.079
bad team. I don't know,
I really don't know why the gap right,

651
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:01.000
the gap from how good how bad
they could be? And and again

652
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:04.800
and and as you said, a
bunch of times. You know, how

653
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.280
much of it was shaded by how
well they did early in the year.

654
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.960
Were we mistaken as to how good
they were during that time? Hell and

655
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.079
by mid December we were talking about
whether the flaws. Oh, we can't

656
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:22.159
find it until we found them.
Then we found it. They found us.

657
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.840
Honestly, they were big. They
show themselves to us, keep working

658
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.920
very No, I don't know,
Steve, I don't know. I don't

659
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:37.239
think it was about Boswell being too
young. I just think it was about

660
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.519
Boswell not being very good as a
point guard. And at the same time,

661
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.960
there were some games where Caleb Love
wasn't very good over the last few

662
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.199
games in the season, and then
other other pieces of that as well.

663
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.360
So, and it happens, it
happens. So I don't I'm not.

664
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:57.239
I'm not so sure. How Yeah, it's it's hard to pin it down.

665
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.559
I guess what I'm saying, you
know, I mean the way Jim

666
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.320
asked a quest, what was the
thing? Well, it wasn't a thing,

667
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.840
you know, it was a lot
of little things. Yeah, a

668
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.719
lot of little things that added up
to a big thing and and a loss

669
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.960
to in the in the sweet sixteen, I guarantee you next year when Indiana

670
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.840
plays, you're going to see a
lot of people posting stuff on how he

671
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.400
did from the free throw line.
Bollow, Yeah, because either he's good

672
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.679
or he's kind of good or not
good, but he made shots. Yeah,

673
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.039
I really I like Bollow as a
player. I think I'm unsure if

674
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.679
Indiana fans are fully aware of like
the player that they're getting, right.

675
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.679
I think they think that they're getting
a certain guy when really they're getting a

676
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.159
different guy who's also a high quality, you know, one of the best

677
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:38.840
big men in the nation. Sure, but I don't know if he's the

678
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.360
guy that they think that they're getting. No. I totally agree that's a

679
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.599
good observation because we talked about that. If they're paid one point whatever,

680
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.360
if play, if the if the
internet's correct, and I don't doubt I

681
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.039
doubt that it is, well what
are you getting for that? Yeah?

682
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.320
What are you paying for? Wow? There's all that. There's a you

683
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.719
know, I mean that's the question
that's going to be asked going forward for

684
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.239
players where they didn't have to deal
with that. Sure, I mean they

685
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.639
say, well, you got a
scholarship, you should be better when you're

686
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:07.599
making a million dollars. You need
to be better than that. Well,

687
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:09.719
they're gonna have, you know what, They're gonna have to deal with that.

688
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.719
Sure. Sure. We were talking
about fans being nasty earlier this year.

689
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:19.159
Yeah, I mean when the more
money players start making, it get

690
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.559
Yeah, I brought that up.
You probably weren't here. Then if you're

691
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.079
getting paid money like that, do
you deserve it and you're not playing well,

692
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.000
he probably comes with the territory.
It just does, sadly, but

693
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.239
it does. Yeah, absolutely,
it absolutely does. But again, if

694
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:37.880
you want to make the big bucks, you're gonna have to take the stuff

695
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.440
that comes with it. Sure,
sure, no, And then you know

696
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.760
what, and they're gonna they're fine
with it. Sure you know. Well,

697
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.960
of course the checks are cashing and
as a booster, I know you

698
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.519
put money into it. And Cody
does too. And I never asked him

699
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.840
this question. But you put twenty
five fifty thousand, and you think I

700
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.719
paid, I paid for this.
What's my return? You know? I

701
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.239
think in that in that sense,
Steven, And I don't know, maybe

702
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.679
if this is just how I would
approach it to me, if I'm supporting

703
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:09.400
a kid n I l yeah,
but I'm I'm kind of like, all

704
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.000
I want is for them to not
do anything really stupid, like get in

705
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:19.199
trouble, you know, I mean, if they're I feel if you feel

706
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.880
that, if you're gonna, first
of all, if you've done your due

707
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:28.320
diligence on a kid to to provide
some uh nil support, you're probably gonna

708
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:34.039
support a kid that you know,
you know that there's you're going to check

709
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.119
the character right. You're not going
to support a kid that's likely to do

710
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.440
that you think is likely to you
know, do something really ridiculous or stupid,

711
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.280
you know, a d u I
uh, you know, a sexual

712
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.840
assault, you know whatever, you're
gonna you're gonna try and support a kid

713
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.519
that you think has has a lot
of credibility. You look at their family,

714
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:53.960
you look at all those things,
because you're putting money. You know,

715
00:47:54.320 --> 00:48:00.519
it's an investment. And so I
think a booster who does that and

716
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.280
does this stuff for the right reason. All they're looking for is for a

717
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.719
kid who's a good representation of whatever
program they're in. And maybe they're not

718
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.719
as good as you would hope they
were going to be, but as long

719
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.920
as they don't embarrass you, and
not only don't embarrass you, but represent

720
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.400
you really well, you know,
on and off the field. I think

721
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.400
that's what Booster's looking for. I
don't think Booster is going to pay is

722
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.480
necessarily looking to pay a Caleb Le's
Okay, I'm gonna give you this money,

723
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.360
but you better score twenty three points
a game. I don't think that's

724
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.599
what they're doing. I think they're
saying to Caleb Love, you better not

725
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.760
get in trouble. You better go
to school, do all the stuff that

726
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.639
comes with being an athlete, and
you know what, and just be a

727
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.760
good teammate. That's all I want
from you. And I was going to

728
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.400
say, like if I was a
Booster in that position, which I was

729
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.800
not, but if I was,
I would just want to know that they're

730
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.599
doing the things on and off the
court to be the best version of them.

731
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.920
So right, that's it, And
I want to help him do that

732
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.079
by making sure that the bills are
paid. This you know, you can

733
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.400
go get closed whatever. Yeah,
but just don't be spending all your time

734
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.719
out and about right like like if
like if you know, if you're well,

735
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.320
if you're if you're providing an I
l to to to Umar, you're

736
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:13.000
not disappointed of course I was just
gonna throw something. So you're supporting n

737
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.159
I l if you saw what the
ranch and you're doing this for, and

738
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:21.559
then you see the photos of him
at the table, well that's that's that's

739
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.360
up there where I said, as
as long as you're not doing anything stupid,

740
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.880
right, being a good representative,
that was not a good being a

741
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.880
good representative of the program and of
you know whoever was supporting him. And

742
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.760
that's that's exactly what I'm saying,
Steve, you know, doing something like

743
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.400
that or like I said, or
getting the d U I you know,

744
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.599
ra car racing a car, getting
shot, getting caught, shoplifting, you

745
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.159
know, flunking out of school.
Those are the things that that you know,

746
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.639
you watch for. But you know, if if you were if you're

747
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:55.280
providing an nil money to Umar Bellow
and he had a horrible game in an

748
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.760
important time, you're not pissed at
that, and you're not saying I shouldn't

749
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.199
have every giving you any money and
not sending him an apple casher question right,

750
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.639
right? So you know, so
that's I think that's that's me.

751
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.440
Now, maybe somebody is saying,
Okay, I'm gonna give you this dough

752
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.360
but you better get you know,
X X X and X. Well.

753
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.559
I don't know that that might be
different for different programs around the country,

754
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.679
Like if the expectations are X,
for example, you might look to find

755
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.559
a player who fits that no matter
what their character is. But that might

756
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.639
not be what an Arizona booster is
looking for versus you know, any other

757
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.159
school. I mean, again,
I don't have that money to hand out,

758
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.840
but if I did, I'm just
looking for a kid who's going to

759
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.679
represent me, because I'm if I'm
giving him an al money, I'm asking

760
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.519
him to come and represent whatever it
is, my company or whatever, and

761
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.280
as long as they represent that well. And I think for the most part,

762
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.440
Kylon did that whole thing, that
whole episode with the the you know,

763
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.000
was that Was that a smart thing
to do? Now? Was that

764
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.000
a dumb thing to do? Yes? Would somebody probably disappointed in that?

765
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:07.199
Yeah? Absolutely, but far worse
things true you put it that way,

766
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:12.079
Yeah, I mean, if you
put it that way. And also,

767
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.639
if you're giving the kid money,
whoever it is, are you are you

768
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:17.840
telling them this about Okay, I
hope you don't do this or I hope

769
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.639
you don't do that. What if
you're not. Well, let me put

770
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.599
it this way. I'm putting that
in the contract. I was gonna say,

771
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.519
the contracts, Yeah, they're they're
contract that. I'm putting that in

772
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:34.480
the contract. I'm saying the morals
clause or behavioral clause or morals clause in

773
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.679
the contract. There are those in
major league contracts. You know, you

774
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.719
do this, you know, we
get to pull, we get to pull

775
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:44.480
your salary, you know, without
penalty because you did this or that.

776
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.679
Those are things are pretty standard in
the contract, and I'm thinking I would

777
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.039
expect that those things are standard in
nil contracts as well. I'm sure that

778
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:57.679
Bert Lopez doesn't want t mac out
there, you know, hanging out at

779
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.920
strip clubs and you know, walking
around with hookers and things like that,

780
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.280
if he's going to represent his company. That's a bit extreme. But okay,

781
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:12.400
how extreame is that, Kevin?
Don't trying to gauge around over here?

782
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:19.679
Yeah, forty five seconds, get
out of here. But you know

783
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:21.840
what, you get my point though, right? You get The point is

784
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:27.639
that you know you're you're paying these
guys mostly for their reputation, and it's

785
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.440
and and and so the reputation of
your company is going to be affected by

786
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.960
the reputation of the We Gotta Come
when we have Jake on it later this

787
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.320
week, some people says, joking, he said, we got to blame

788
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:43.239
Jake because he was kind of on
the initial steps of this and this is

789
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.360
nothing what they wanted to do.
This is not this isn't what it was

790
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.199
supposed to be. Right, all
right, Okay, that's it for the

791
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.840
day. Thank you for being here. Follow us on the podcast. It'll

792
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.599
be up tonight. You can check
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