WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:08.560 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thorntons on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:24.079 day. Now here's Nick Coffee, two hours in with one more to go. 3 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:27.879 I cannot believe how fast the show has has gone by, not just 4 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.239 today, but really this week. You know what they say. Yes, 5 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:36.280 I'm about to give you the ultimate corny cliche. Time flies when you're having 6 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:41.159 fun. It is true, though, I do feel like that time does 7 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:45.880 go about faster whenever you're really enjoying something. I think it's a cliche because 8 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.039 it's true, which is why most cliches are in fact true. All right 9 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.679 again, Coffee and Company, that's us. We are fueled by Thornton's here 10 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:56.640 on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee. That is me Radio Rick Ryder alongside 11 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.399 today producing this afternoon. I was delighted this afternoon when I pulled into the 12 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.040 garage. Luke or not Luke. Your name's not Luke, you name's Rick. 13 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.239 It just got a text message from somebody I know name Luke, which 14 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:08.079 is why I got the names mixed mixed up. So I won't do it 15 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.120 again. Won't disrespect you. It's Radio Rick Ryder. But I forgot that 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.280 you were filling in today for Austin, and I saw your vehicle and it 17 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.519 reminded me that you're going to be here, and it's always a pleasure working 18 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.439 with you. Do you mind sharing with the listeners the type of car you 19 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.480 have, because it's beautiful. I've got a red Audi A three. I 20 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:27.480 mean it is. You know what that car says about you, Rick, 21 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:33.719 Let's say it says you're classy, says you're elegant, but you're also not 22 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.719 afraid to let your hair down, have some fun. It's a sporty vehicle. 23 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.799 You know how long you had it? About two years though, I 24 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:44.719 mean it's it's in tip top shape. So a beautiful vehicle, and I'm 25 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.799 jealous. Yeah, I find the drive too. Yeah, I have an 26 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.879 issue V which I love my vehicle. I've got a Volkswagon Atlas. It's 27 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.760 a nice vehicle. But yeah, cars like that are going to have to 28 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.040 be you know, not in not in, not in the works for me 29 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.599 until my kids get a little older. I got I got car seats, 30 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.879 I got a lot around and you know that's why I need the bigger vehicle. 31 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.920 But uh, yeah, I'm very jealous of that nice bright red Audi. 32 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.599 Is it Audi or Audi. Uh it's Audy. Okay, yeah, 33 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:13.439 see, I'm not even worthy of one of those nice vehicles because I don't 34 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.599 know how to say it. I think I was calling it, uh you 35 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.159 know, Audie. But anyways, it's an Audi and it's a nice vehicle. 36 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.120 So if you are driving around listening to us in your vehicle, thank 37 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:23.840 you. And just remind just to remind you that if you are, you 38 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.120 know, going to be getting out of your vehicle doing whatever it is you're 39 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.280 going to be doing here on a Wednesday afternoon, just know you can take 40 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.039 us with you. Listen live on the Auhet Radio app and listen live at 41 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:38.159 seven ninety Louisville dot com. So let's dive back in here to the news 42 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.199 of the day. I mean it's not breaking news, but Louisville is going 43 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.080 to be back in the a C C SEC Challenge. I guess they're going 44 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.520 to be making their debut in the acc SEC Challenge because they didn't play in 45 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.080 it last year when it was in its first year. But before we do 46 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.080 that, this is some breaking news that is not related to you know, 47 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:58.759 anything you would typically hear on this show. Right, it's not a sports 48 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.039 story. But at five thirty, So in about twenty minutes, Louisville Mayor 49 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:07.360 Craig Greenberg is set to make what is being described in the press release as 50 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:13.000 a significant announcement about the Louisville Metro Police Department. So our own Paul Miles 51 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.560 put that out there about fifteen minutes ago, so I'm not sure what that 52 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.080 is, but we will be sure to keep you updated. I don't know 53 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:22.919 if there's going to be just a press release or a press conference, and 54 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:27.280 we probably won't go live to it, but if it ends up being something 55 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:31.199 substantial, given our resources we have here at iHeart Louisville with our great powerful 56 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.319 news station across the Hall, news Radio eight forty WHS, we'll keep our 57 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.840 eyes on what that announcement is and see if we need to kind of, 58 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:40.840 you know, break in and carry that. I don't know what it is. 59 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:46.240 I've no clue, but I feel like this was kind of out of 60 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.120 nowhere, so we'll see all right. Back to Louisville hoops. So right 61 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:54.159 now, Pat Kelsey has a schedule that I hope, I mean, regardless 62 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.039 if he likes it or not, I hope he likes it. But either 63 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.759 way, he's going to have to play a really challenging schedule in year one. 64 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:05.039 You know, Louisville every year. I guess previously, in a different 65 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:09.719 world, they'd play a really challenging schedule in the ACC, And now that's 66 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.280 just not the case anymore. And I know, trust me, I don't 67 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.360 lack self awareness like some of you may think. When I talk about how 68 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.560 bad the ACC has been in basketball in recent years compared to what it used 69 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:24.439 to be. One of the factors in that is Louisville being really, really 70 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.040 bad. Right here, I am dog in the league for no longer being 71 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.199 elite like it once was. And the team that I care about and I 72 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:34.560 root for, and the team I talk about on this show quite frequently, 73 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.959 was dead last in that league the last couple of years. So I'm aware 74 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:44.639 of that. I know that. But let's just be real. If Louisville 75 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:49.199 ends up in a few years getting back on top, not to where they're 76 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:54.160 winning a national championship in that timeframe, but they are consistently viewed to be 77 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:59.800 a top twenty caliber team, that's not unreasonable by any means, especially when 78 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.519 you can consider how much things have changed. Right. This isn't like a 79 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.759 huge rebuild that's going to take ten years. Pat Kelsey could have a pretty 80 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.720 damn good team this year. In fact, when you look at the personnel, 81 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.240 I think he has a chance to have a pretty special first season. 82 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.720 Not to say it would be special in regards to like an old timer, 83 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.959 but I don't think it's crazy to say Louisville could be the most improved team 84 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:25.639 in college basketball next year. Now, I'm also aware that if that is 85 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:30.160 the case, it would more so have to do with how bad they were 86 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.639 the previous two years. But either way, Louisville could be pretty good next 87 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.000 year, and let's just say in the next few years they end up being 88 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:40.600 again a top twenty caliber team, and it becomes something you can realistically expect 89 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.399 to be an annual thing. Well, if the rest of the ACC is 90 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.600 not doing their part, and you just have you know, Duke Carolina continuing 91 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.439 to be you know, two of the better teams in the country, Louisville's 92 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:59.439 up there. Let's say I don't know, let's say Wake Forest is a 93 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:03.560 consistent tournament team. Tony Bennett's still you know, living on the bubble. 94 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.279 Like that's just not ideal for the ACC. I mean again, it's not 95 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:14.519 going to end the league. But the coaching changes in college basketball over the 96 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.839 years, really the last ten years, I think, is why you've seen 97 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:24.240 a big shift as far as which conferences appear to be not only thriving when 98 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.839 it comes to college basketball, but they appear to be kind of taking over. 99 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:33.560 I mean the SEC. We talked about the SEC's big change in the 100 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.839 last ten years earlier in the show, because when I look at the ACC 101 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:41.839 SEC matchups, which we're going to get to in just a minute, I 102 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:45.600 feel like there's a good chance the SEC wins this thing and it's not even 103 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.680 close. And imagine saying that ten years ago. Ten years ago, the 104 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.759 SEC was a joke of a league in basketball. Kentucky was dominant, nobody 105 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:57.240 thought that they weren't elite despite their league being bad. But Florida was still 106 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:01.279 pretty good because Donovan was still Thereccasionally you'd have another team that would emerge as 107 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:05.519 being pretty decent, but other than that, I mean, nobody was really 108 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.000 good. In fact, they were all pretty bad if we're being honest. 109 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:15.160 And now they have a crop of really good coaches in that conference, and 110 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.639 I know we all factor the tournament as far as how we'd view as a 111 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:26.439 season successful or not. In last year, the SEC bombed in the tournament. 112 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.040 Bama did make the Final four. Better than that. That was not 113 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.959 a good showing for the SEC in the NCAA tournament, but it didn't mean 114 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.160 that the league is frauds. I mean, Bruce Pearl at Auburn, like, 115 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.360 they're consistently going to be one of the better teams in the country, 116 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.240 not top five, but I mean if they mess around and make a Final 117 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.360 four, nobody's going to be surprised. They did it just a few years 118 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.800 ago. Todd Golden at Florida, He's about to be a star in the 119 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:51.720 game of college hoops. I believe Rick Barnes. I mean, I don't 120 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:57.079 think he's ever going to make a final four, but he's clearly put Tennessee 121 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.959 in a really good spot. And last year, if they didn't run in 122 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.279 to Purdue in the Elite eight, they they would have been a final four 123 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.399 team. Buzz Williams at Texas A and M. You know, he's not 124 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.720 an elite coach, but he's good for Texas A and M. Right, 125 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.040 he's I mean, where would he rank among the ACC's coaches. Probably higher 126 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.720 than he will in the SEC. Caliperry. He's still at Arkham, He's 127 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:22.560 still in the league. He's at Arkansas now. So what it comes down 128 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.959 to is the SEC the network was launched, they realized they had a lot 129 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.560 of inventory to fill with basketball games and it would be in their best interest 130 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.240 if that was a good product, and the money was there, and I 131 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:39.200 guess it was. I guess it was Sankee, who was the commissioner at 132 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.720 that time, you know, encouraged everybody in the league to make investments into 133 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:46.960 basketball, and they did exactly that. And now that league is in a 134 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:52.679 really good spot. So I don't think that the ACC is going to have 135 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.879 a great showing here in the ACC SEC Challenge, but we'll see. Maybe 136 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.440 I'm maybe I'm completely wrong. But here are the matchups. Arkansas, Miami, 137 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.720 Cal at Missoo, FSU at LSU, Georgia Tech at Oklahoma, UK 138 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:11.120 at Clemson, Notre Dame at Georgia, Ole, Miss at Louisville, South 139 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.879 Carolina at Boston College, Syracuse at Tennessee, Wake Forest at a and M 140 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.759 Alabama at North Carolina, Auburn at Duke Pitt at Mississippi State, Texas at 141 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:24.080 NC State, Vandy at Virginia Tech, and Virginia at Florida. So the 142 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.519 big matchups here are Alabama at North Carolina and Auburn at Duke. Those are 143 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.360 I mean, I would I mean, if you just base it off of 144 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.279 the ESPN preseason Top twenty five, I mean Bama's number two, Duke is 145 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.279 number eight, Carolina's number ten, Auburn's number eleven, So those are four 146 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.240 of the top eleven teams in college basketball. So those will be the really 147 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.759 big matchups that get the most attention. Louisville and ole Miss won't, but 148 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.919 it is a good matchup for Louisville. I mean, Chris Beard in year 149 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.679 two, they're a preseason top twenty five team according to ESPN. You get 150 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:00.799 to host them. So if Louisville's coming off some momentum after that trip to 151 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.399 the Bahamas in the Battle of Fortlantis, they'll come right back and play this 152 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.559 game. And I mean, we're not going to be in this situation we 153 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:13.279 were in in twenty twenty, which was awesome when Louisville ended up number one 154 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.559 in the country and then hosted Michigan who actually was maybe Michigan. No, 155 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.759 Louisville was number one in their first game as the number one team in the 156 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.559 country under Chris Mack. They beat Michigan, who was coming off of a 157 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.200 championship, in the Battle Fortlantis, and I think that was a top five 158 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.320 matchup at that time, and that was, in my opinion, the last 159 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.759 time that the Young Center was just on fire. And I don't know if 160 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.879 we're going to get that. But let's be real, the bar is low, 161 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.159 right, I mean, because of how bad Louis's been recently. They 162 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.840 if they just end up winning two out of three, easier said than done. 163 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.720 In the Battle for Atlantis, I think you will return home to Louisville 164 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.879 with a packed Yum Center. I mean, I don't want to set expectations 165 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.000 up too high, but I think there is a desperation level for Louisville fans 166 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.159 to be excited and they are right. I mean, but it's the off 167 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.360 season, so part of me low key kind of things, like even when 168 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.919 they play the lousy teams in the non conference, you're gonna see really good 169 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:16.559 crowds because the team is clearly going to be a lot better. It's a 170 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.120 new era. You want to be all in and supportive. So I understand 171 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.440 if people don't go because again, like you know, you have lives, 172 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.639 you have things going on, Like it's not as convenient to get nine o'clock 173 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.679 on a Tuesday to go watch Louisville play. You know, I don't know 174 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:35.240 EKU or something like that, but I think this first season, unless they're 175 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.440 just like really bad, it's gonna be a fun ride. But it is 176 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.399 going to be challenging because again I just mentioned Old miss as the opponent they're 177 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.639 going to have in the Battle or in the acc SEC Challenge. But if 178 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.159 you look at the rest of the non conference schedule. Last week they announced 179 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.960 they're going to play Tennessee. That's another top fifteen matchup. I mean, 180 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.679 Tennessee in the ESPN preseason rankings is number thirteen. They've got Kentucky, which 181 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.720 they'll them in Lexington. Kentucky's not ranked right now in the ESPN preseason top 182 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.399 twenty five, but I'm sure if you check other rankings you'll find him, 183 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.919 and I wouldn't be shocked if they're ranked when you play him in mid December. 184 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.279 And then the Battle for Atlantis, I mean, that is a loaded 185 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.519 field. It's actually not as loaded as it has been in previous years, 186 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.279 but you're still playing some of the best teams in the country depending on you 187 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:20.960 know, the draw you get. So we don't know who Louilvell was going 188 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.519 to play in this event, but here's the field outside of Louisville, Arizona, 189 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:30.879 Davidson, Gonzaga, Indiana, Oklahoma, Providence in West Virginia. So 190 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.200 Arizona, I mean, they're they're bringing back Caleb Love, who won PAC 191 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.000 twelve Player of the Year last season. Right now, they're number nine in 192 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.399 the country according to ESPN. Gonzaga if you end up facing them, their 193 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:50.200 preseason top five according to ESPN. So I love that this schedule right out 194 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:54.360 of the gate for Pat Kelsey is challenging. I assume he's embracing it as 195 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.200 well. I'm certainly gonna ask him tomorrow. So that's another reminder for you. 196 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.240 He's going to be with us tomorrow at three thirty on the show, 197 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.799 so be sure to check out the interview if you can, And if you 198 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.919 can't tune in at three o'clock because of your schedule, we'll probably rerack that 199 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.519 and play it in the five o'clock hour because obviously we typically have a different 200 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.600 audience at that time. But yeah, Pat Kelsey gonna be on with us 201 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.320 tomorrow at three point thirty. Really looking forward to it. I know he's 202 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.120 gonna be making his rounds doing different interviews, and he's not shot away from 203 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.120 interviews and his social media stuff, so he's been engaging with the fans. 204 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:31.440 But I'm gonna try my best to make this a different interview than you typically 205 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.720 have heard with Pat because I know a lot of people have asked him the 206 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.919 same kind of questions and I get it. I'm not being critical because look, 207 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.200 I can tell you this, I'm not listening to every interview he's doing 208 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:45.639 with other people because that's just not me. But yeah, I look forward 209 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.279 to having him on tomorrow and hopefully you guys will. We'll check it out 210 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.759 also real quick before we move on. When it comes to Louisville basketball, 211 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.039 I don't know if there were fans that were really worried about this. However, 212 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.480 there was one player who had not yet arrived to camp, and that 213 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.559 was Korin Johnson. He got here I think either late last night or early 214 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:09.000 this morning, so he's here, which means the entire the entire roster has 215 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.919 made it. So you're thirteen scholarship players. I believe they're all here. 216 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.600 There may be one that has not arrived just yet. But I'm but I 217 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.759 but I think all of them are here now because I remember last week somebody 218 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.840 telling me that Korin Johnson was the only one that hadn't made it to town, 219 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.879 as well as Kahani Russ, the freshman. He also got here earlier 220 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.840 this week. So they're all here all right before we get to the first 221 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.000 break here in the five o'clock hour. This is news that I'm sure none 222 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.000 of you care about, but it is something if you care about college basketball 223 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:46.279 that you might you might want to keep an eye on. Because the NCAA, 224 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.720 when they recently announced that they're no longer going to they're no longer going 225 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:58.159 to have any limit on the amount of times you can transfer, they also 226 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.360 kind of snuck something in there that I didn't know if it'd be relevant or 227 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.840 not, and it may not be, but again something to keep an eye 228 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:09.720 on. So college basketball players are getting an additional year of eligibility if they 229 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:15.399 were if they were deemed ineligible to compete for a season or any portion of 230 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:22.000 a season of competition occurring during, during, or since the twenty nineteen twenty 231 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:28.159 twenty academic year because of the transfer eligibility rule provided to these student athletes. 232 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.840 So if you transfer between two member institutions more than yeah, let me just 233 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:35.759 double check this here. And the reason I bring it up is because there's 234 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.440 now a player from UNLV who was a pretty good player last year for UNLV, 235 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.720 well, he thought his eligibility was done. He ended up going to 236 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.120 the Portsmouth Invitational. Not a draft prospect, but a good college player. 237 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.679 Well, because of this, this decision from the NS doablea. He's now 238 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:56.440 available in the portal because he got a year of eligibility added. Because he 239 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:03.679 was again he was ineligible to compete during any portion of that season or any 240 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.000 season since then. So I know of at least two college players who did 241 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:14.639 not play last year that because of this rule are now trying to see if 242 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.120 they qualify. Like you could have dudes who took a year off that. 243 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.080 I mean, if you're playing professional basketball overseas or something, I would imagine 244 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.399 you wouldn't want to do this. But if you're just kind of hanging out 245 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.159 because your career ended, you didn't have great options overseas, but you could 246 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.960 still potentially be effective as a college player, you may see guys return to 247 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.799 college basketball, which is kind of crazy to think about, but it could 248 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.720 happen because again, this young man, Keelan Boone, I mean, he's 249 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.679 now available in the portal. He averaged thirteen points and seven boards last year 250 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.159 at UNLV, So I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of programs out 251 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:53.759 there that have a scholarship or two available that we'd love to add a guy 252 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:59.960 like that. All Right, I lied, We're going to do one more 253 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.159 thing here before we take our first time out in the five o'clock hours. 254 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.599 So Jerry West passed away earlier today. And obviously I don't think I need 255 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.200 to tell anybody who Jerry West is one of the better basketball players of all 256 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.319 time. Obviously I didn't live to watch him, or didn't I wasn't around, 257 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:19.279 I wasn't alive whenever he was, you know, becoming a superstar. 258 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:25.160 But obviously he was always involved in basketball. Was an executive in the NBA 259 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.200 many many years. In fact, he was a two time NBA Executive of 260 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.039 the Year and eight time NBA champion as an executive. So even when he 261 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:37.279 wasn't playing, he was clearly very much involved in basketball and an all time 262 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:44.680 great, a legend. And I remember as a young kid asking my dad 263 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.759 who Jerry West was because I think i'd received I think it was like an 264 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.400 old here's what it was. I'm not even sure if they make these anymore, 265 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.400 but there used to be these magazines where you could check the value of 266 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:02.400 basketball cards, and I remember often times trying to check what my cards would 267 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.319 be worth, which they weren't worth much of anything at that point, but 268 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.920 I remember seeing like a rare Jerry West card was a really really valuable card. 269 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:14.319 And I asked my dad who's Jerry West? And you know, I 270 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.160 was young, so he didn't look at me as if he was ashamed of 271 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.400 his son. I was probably like seven or eight years old, and he 272 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.920 told me he's a logo. And I'm like, what do you mean he's 273 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.119 a logo. It's like, you know, the logo of the NBA. 274 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.119 Yeah, that's Jerry West. And I'm like, really, I thought it 275 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.319 was just some random like I didn't think. I didn't know what it was 276 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.160 actually a logo of anybody. And I remember as a kid, and I 277 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:40.359 think this still today, you know, roughly thirty years later, how cool 278 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:45.759 would it be to have you be the logo of the NBA? And I 279 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.079 bet there's kids right now that don't know that that he's the logo that they 280 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:52.880 made. The NBA made the logo of of Jerry West. So still cool 281 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:59.160 as hell. And you know, rip an all time great. And by 282 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:02.400 the way, you know he died at the age of eighty six. He 283 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:03.880 just did an interview that I heard not that long ago. I don't think 284 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.160 it was like the last couple of months or anything like that, but within 285 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.960 a year or so, he did an interview where he was responding to JJ 286 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:17.079 Reddick's comments about that era of NBA basketball whenever Jerry West played. And you 287 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:18.799 know, because at that point he was at least eighty four, eighty five 288 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.240 maybe, And I would have never believed he was that old because he was 289 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.359 still sharp. He looked great for that age. But yeah, he passed 290 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.799 away earlier today. So in all time great we've lost now Bill Walton and 291 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.960 Jerry West in the last couple of weeks. So very sad for us for 292 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.039 the basketball world to all time greats legends in their own right. All right, 293 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.000 quick break, we'll come back on the other side. I guess we'll 294 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.839 figure out what this announcement is from the mayor and get to the text line, 295 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:47.799 get to your phone calls. We'll mix it up here in our last 296 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:52.640 thirty minutes or so. And the state of Illinois, to my knowledge, 297 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.880 has become the first height the first state that I know of that is that 298 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.519 is going to introduce a shot clock for high school basketball. I found that 299 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.720 this has turned into a topic that a lot of people have opinions on, 300 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:06.000 including myself. So we'll get to that in a lot more. Keep it 301 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:30.240 locked right here with us on Sports Talk seven ninety Now back to coffee and 302 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:40.039 company fueled my Thortens on Sports Talk seven ninety so, I could totally believe 303 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:48.799 a scenario where ESPN wanted to put Louisville in Arkansas together in the acc SEC 304 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:53.200 Challenge and Arkansas Caliperi via Kinny Payne, you know, made it clear they 305 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.240 didn't want to do that. I could see a scenario where that's true. 306 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.240 I mean, I don't know for sure, and still believe that overall, 307 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.680 Like there aren't people looking at these matchups in the acc SEC Challenge and just 308 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:10.160 thinking, Wow, they missed a big opportunity there to really put together a 309 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.799 matchup that has a big storyline. Kenny Payne coming back to the YOUM Center, 310 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.119 you know, the following season after he was canned after a two year 311 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.000 run that I believe will in fact go down as the worst two seasons any 312 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:25.599 head coaches ever had at the Division one level. But you know, it 313 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:27.400 still would have been something. And I bring it up to say, there 314 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:33.000 are at least some college basketball you know, national media guys, Rob Douster 315 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.200 of the Field of sixty eight being one of them that has said that was 316 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.480 the biggest omission, that was the biggest miss for whoever put these pairings together, 317 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:42.720 because that's certainly, I mean, the storylines are there, not only 318 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:47.319 because of the Kenny Payne factor, but let's just say Kenny Payne didn't get 319 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:52.319 hired by by cal Perry cal coming to play Louisville in his first season at 320 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.839 Arkansas, that's a storyline, I mean. And because to be fair, 321 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:03.079 like he was super successful during his time against Kentucky's rival as their coach. 322 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:04.519 I mean, I'm going to try not to say, you know, he 323 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:10.400 dominated the rivalry, although he kind of did, but that's you know, 324 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:11.680 that's in the past. It's gonna be lowell o' miss. And I still 325 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.359 think of all the matchups that's that's still one of the better ones. And 326 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.839 I know Louisville is coming off a couple of bad years to where there aren't 327 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:23.960 many people that are gonna think much about this team. But I think you 328 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:26.400 got a chance to get off to a really good start if you have a 329 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.319 good showing in the Battle for Atlantis. And you know Chris Beard, I 330 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.240 mean, he's still one of the bigger names as far as coaches in college 331 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:34.799 basketball. The only reason is at Ole Miss is because of what happened at 332 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.599 Texas, and that could be a big opportunity there for you if you're Pat 333 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.119 Kelsey to get a to get a signature whin. I mean, Chris Mack 334 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.720 did exactly that. And I'm not trying to put the pressure on on Pat 335 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.200 Kelsey, but you know Mac, And by the way, Mac and you're 336 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.480 one totally different situation than what Kelsey is doing here about building a brand new 337 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.160 team from scratch. But it all ended poorly with Mac, right, you 338 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.160 know, just ended so you know it felt part quickly because he had a 339 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:07.000 good start to his career here and his first big win was taken down a 340 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.240 Michigan State team at the Young Center, who was a top ten team at 341 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.599 the time in the ACC Big Ten Challenge and that team went on to beat 342 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.079 Sion and Duke in the Elite eight. So you know, the vibes were 343 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.680 really really strong with Chris Mack in the first couple of years, and then 344 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.839 again in the last year and a half it just completely fell apart. But 345 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.799 yeah, big opportunity, in fact, many big opportunities for pac Kelsea to 346 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.920 uh to get some to get some early wins. And really, I mean, 347 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.079 the fan base is already super excited, but if he could pull off 348 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.039 some wins here in November and December, that would really really go a long 349 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.720 way. It's something we used to kind of just be accustomed to. But 350 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.240 I'll tell you what if if you if you do it this time around, 351 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.160 given the circumstances, I have a feeling it will be like this fan base 352 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.880 won't know how to act and I'll probably be included with that group of people 353 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.480 who will be just you know, over the moon. All right. Five 354 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.279 two f seven seventy nine is the number. If you guys want to jump 355 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.480 in and give us a call, we will go to the phone lines now 356 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:07.359 and welcome in. Robert. Robert, how are you, sir? Hey, 357 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.920 Dick, a couple of things. They what it is, they have 358 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:17.359 destroyed college and sports. I mean think that that there you can go anywhere 359 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.559 anytime you want to. There is no penalty. You're gonna get paid. 360 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:25.200 Now that means that you're gonna have four or five schools, do North Carolina, 361 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:29.839 Kentucky? Uh, you know a couple of anyway they're gonna be able 362 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.680 to buy. And now it's not even illegal. They can buy whoever they 363 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:37.759 want. It's this whole thing is it's just destroyed college sports. I mean 364 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:42.400 football, they want two mega compegens. That's what it's going to be. 365 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.079 You know football, you might have a little chance because of the size of 366 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.960 your roster where you could be a team that you know, spent more money. 367 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.079 But it is just ridiculous. And you know a lot of this, 368 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.240 I swear to me, U A. K is starting a lot of this. 369 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:02.599 Just this president to come in even I mean they set the trends with 370 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:07.039 this. They've been paying these players forever and it started with she way you 371 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:12.160 know that was before the NL or really like completely like legit. So they 372 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.119 give a guy who played what eight years he was forty years old. I 373 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:19.519 think when he left. They give this guy like two big dollars and they 374 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:23.200 called it n I L well n IL. Usually it's for advertising, Am 375 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.160 I wrong? I mean oh yeah. I mean the biggest croc here is 376 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.640 that it's for name image and like this. They just dressed it up as 377 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.839 that to pay them. Because these these companies and sometimes it's not even companies 378 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:36.559 now it's just collective where they're taking money from fans. I mean that's good. 379 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.240 Yeah, these guys, these guys aren't are not providing a marketing service 380 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.759 to anybody getting the money. Most of that was the guides. Yeah, 381 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.240 that was the guide that was under Okay, the big companies, and are 382 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:51.039 some of them like Cayden Cardonal that that dude. I saw some TUCKI kids 383 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.920 get on the with the AT and T. But the thing is Oscar. 384 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.519 She way did like two commercials, one for the Lectionon bank down there maybe 385 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.880 that place is, and the other was for a high end car dealer. 386 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.519 Do you think that they he made two million dollars from those two companies. 387 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.440 Yeah, there was. There was there was no return on that investment, 388 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.160 I would say, I mean, certainly some brand recognition. Yeah, I 389 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.279 don't think two million dollars worth of cars were sold. Sok, Hey, 390 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:18.960 Robert, I appreciate the call. My man. I'll say this. I 391 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.039 think the chaos and just so many moving parts, guys jumping from team to 392 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.039 team, it is it just it's it's hard for a lot of college sports 393 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:32.680 fans who've been following this for decades to it's just so different. But I 394 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.799 think when it comes to your team, and I'm talking to any fan out 395 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:41.640 there, your best case scenario is that you have success to where guys who 396 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:47.119 want to leave they're leaving because they're not They're they're not a big factor for 397 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.599 you. And there are guys who will leave that you won't want to leave, 398 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.319 but you'll have to just understand, like, yeah, they're they're not 399 00:26:53.400 --> 00:27:00.160 going to be a key player because they're just not that good. And it's 400 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.799 still going to be tough to see guys moving in and moving out. But 401 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.640 your best case scenario is that you have success and you have good an IL, 402 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.200 meaning you have a good amount of money and now INNIL is still going 403 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.400 to exist, but colleges are going to start paying these guys. And again, 404 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.000 if you if you're a school that is not willing to max out at 405 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.319 the twenty two million annually that you're going to be allowed to pay all your 406 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.720 student athletes and every sport, it's going to hurt you. I mean some 407 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.759 it'll hurt more than others, but I mean you're going to have to be 408 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:32.160 competitive. Now. The fact that there's a cap it does make it to 409 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:37.400 where if everybody's paying twenty two million, then you know, that's somewhat of 410 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.799 an even playing field if of course you have the money. But INIL is 411 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.319 still going to exist to where the rich is still going to get richer. 412 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.960 The overall hierarchy of college sports I don't think is going to change with this 413 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.920 new With this new change about where now the schools are going to pay the 414 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.400 players, they're going to potentially be employees. Because when you get to everybody 415 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:02.240 capping out and where everybody's got like a base level pay of whatever amount of 416 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.079 money that the school's paying them, then INIL is going to be you know, 417 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.839 on top of that, it's gonna be like your bonus right like hey 418 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.240 here, you know, when you're considering a job, you've got your salary, 419 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.240 but you also, depending on the kind of work you do, you 420 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.440 want to know bonus structure right, you want to know what kind of incentives, 421 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.160 what kind of money you could really make if you do well, And 422 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.359 that's where innil's still going to exist. So if you are, if you're 423 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.640 a fan of a program, if the success is there and the money's there, 424 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.319 it's still going to be chaotic and you're still going to see guys moving 425 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.119 in moving on regularly, regularly. But you can sustain your success if you 426 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.720 keep the good players and you can pay them. I mean, I mean, 427 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.359 I can't act like this isn't weird if you'd have told me ten years 428 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.319 ago this is what college sports would look like, because it's just so unusual, 429 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.920 and college sports was the same forever. Right. The amateurism model that 430 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.759 the NCAA stuck with is archaic. It was archaic twenty five years ago, 431 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:02.079 if we're being honest with you, So it's different. I just am someone 432 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:07.319 that I just can't imagine not it not being such a big part of my 433 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.880 life. It's the like there's probably when it comes to just things I enjoy 434 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.480 from an entertainment standpoint that like you know, can distract me from everyday life. 435 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.880 It's college sports, college basketball, college football. And I'm very fortunate 436 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.640 to be able to have a job and a career where I get to talk 437 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.480 about it all the time. So you know, I'm somewhat of an outlier. 438 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.720 I'm kind of in the minority because despite these changes, I rarely ever 439 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.720 think like, uh oh, college basketball or college football is going to go 440 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.319 away, because you know it might. I don't know. I don't think 441 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.680 it will. But I don't even let my mind go there because I'm gonna 442 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.240 love it and watch it and consume the product no matter what, just because 443 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.799 I don't. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know how to live life without 444 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.119 it. That sounds pathetic, but it's kind of true, all right. 445 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.960 So Illinois, to my knowledge, has become the first state that is going 446 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:03.400 to implement a shot clock igh school basketball. So THEHSA announced yesterday their boarded 447 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.480 Directors has approved the use of a thirty five second shot clock that'll begin in 448 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.799 the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season. Says here that the ISSA has 449 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.119 allowed the shot clock usage in specific events in the past two seasons, but 450 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.680 not in general competition. That's going to change after a couple more years. 451 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.400 Here is the quote. The overwhelming feedback we receive from coaches is that it's 452 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.240 time to embrace the shot clock in all varsity contests. We believe the two 453 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.799 season lead time will provide our schools with ample opportunity to install the shot clocks 454 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.119 and get comfortable with them, both from a coaching and a game administration perspective. 455 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.440 That is a statement from the IHA executive director. So I feel strongly 456 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.720 about this. I mean, I don't have any skin in the game. 457 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.759 I don't coach high school basketball. I clearly don't play high school basketball. 458 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:56.039 But what I would love for somebody to do is tell me why it's like, 459 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.279 why is it needed to make the game more entertaining? High school sports 460 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.920 is not about entertainment. It's not. I mean, I'm sure you've seen 461 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.720 some entertaining games over the years, and I'm sure when your kid plays, 462 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.759 you're entertained, but they're not making money from because it's not a product that 463 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.000 is there to entertain Again, people love it, and there's in high school 464 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.839 sports is such an important thing. I mean, I don't know what my 465 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.440 life would be like if I didn't get lost in playing sports growing up from 466 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.759 the time I can remember till you know, I decided that you know, 467 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.599 I wasn't going to be fit to play small college basketball, So it's a 468 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.960 huge part of I think how I developed and grew up as a human. 469 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.839 But it's not an entertainment thing. It just isn't. So I've heard others 470 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.720 say, well, hey, this will get this will get guys ready for 471 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.559 the college level. This will really help them get acclimated to the college level. 472 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.079 Do you know any high school basketball players play college basketball at any level? 473 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:59.359 A teen, ten, tiny percent. So I think what it turns 474 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.880 out, what what a lot of folks say is that you know, it's 475 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.839 going to keep teams from holding the ball, which when I played high school 476 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.960 basketball, at times we would play teams where we had to hold the ball, 477 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.920 not the whole game. I mean, we did try to do that 478 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.680 once and it worked out pretty well for us, but we didn't have the 479 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.759 personnel to get into a track meet with certain schools we play because we just 480 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.279 didn't have the athletes, the person the speed. So if you don't want 481 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:34.440 somebody to hold the ball and really eat up clock and be able to break 482 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.279 the five second count, then stop them. I mean, it's gamesmanship, 483 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:44.599 like I it's competition, like that's a if you have the ability to burn 484 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:49.640 clock without letting a team turn you over, rattle you, get you uncomfortable, 485 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.240 force you into a tough shot. That is an advantage you have. 486 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.240 And someone say, well, how's it an advantage? You're not scholl because 487 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:07.119 you're keeping that team from being able to dictate pace and they get uncomfortable if 488 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.519 they can't run. Teams who, of course, you know, like to 489 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:14.079 play up and down and like to full core press. So I just I 490 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.799 don't know that. I don't know why there's a need for it, because 491 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:23.000 again, if it comes down to it being an more entertaining game or developing 492 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:28.359 players for the next level like that, you don't make an entire change to 493 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.440 a state for those two reasons. And another thing that nobody thinks about, 494 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.240 and I'm glad that this statement did include something about that. But I have 495 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.759 a close friend of mine who's an athletic director, and you know, there's 496 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.119 no movement from an understand from the athletic directors in state of Kentucky to do 497 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.720 this, and I'm glad to hear that. But one of the things nobody 498 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.799 talks about is the logistics. I mean, you can't just think if you 499 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.279 have somebody operating the shot clock every single possession. You only have four instances 500 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.759 in a game where somebody might beat the buzzer, and it just is a 501 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:07.440 guess because you're not going to the replay monitor. At a podunk high school, 502 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.559 they don't have. You can't do that. So if you've got a 503 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.639 team that's down to the wire every possession because it's a thirty five second shot 504 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.800 clock, you're just going to have to hope that the refs are right that 505 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.199 they got it off in time every possession. Potentially, I mean, that 506 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:29.519 would be an extreme situation, but high schools don't have the resources to do 507 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:30.960 that. They can't go to the monitor to see if you got it off 508 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.440 in time. I mean, heck, I've been to high school games where 509 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.840 the scoreboard is not working, so you think a shot clock is going to 510 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.079 oftentimes work correctly. I mean, it's just it's it's it's just not necessary 511 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.039 in my opinion. But I understand that I could be in the minority because 512 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.039 I know a lot of people feel very strongly about it, but I've yet 513 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:55.400 to hear anybody tell me why it needs to happen. And you know another 514 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.440 thing that that nobody seems to really think of about is that there are certain 515 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:06.599 teams that like they're really successful because they understand, hey, we have as 516 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.280 system, we have a style in place that that is hard for teams to 517 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.400 beat us because we dictate pace and we really only give them We give them, 518 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.559 you know, forty percent less opportunities to score because we dominate the pace, 519 00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.440 we control the tempo, and that gives us a chance to win. 520 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.159 And that may not be fun to watch. It may rattle teams who like 521 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.039 to run and dunk, but hey, it's called competition. Do what you 522 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.519 can do within the game to give yourself the best chance to win. And 523 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.880 for those who think like, you know this, could you know this? 524 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.599 This? Could you know keep getting I've heard some people act like this could 525 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.960 make games more competitive? No, here's the thing. There are there are 526 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.000 games right now with no shot clock in high school basketball where teams lose by 527 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.800 forty points. If the team that's up forty has to take a shot every 528 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.280 thirty five seconds, even when they have the third string in, you could 529 00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.840 take forty point beat downs from that level to sixty point. And I'm not 530 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.360 exaggerating. I mean that would be an extreme example, but that will happen 531 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.679 if there's a shot clock, so it'll always going to do it. We'll 532 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.719 see what happens. I don't know of any other state that does it, 533 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.000 and I don't believe there's any movement from Kentucky to do it, and I 534 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.840 hope they don't do it, but who knows, maybe by the time my 535 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.960 sons play in high school, hoops still have a shot clock.