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But I also wanted to do the
Oliver Anthony thing. Let's see the Oliver

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Anthony thing. I can save this
for another day. We might have time

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for both. So Oliver Anthony,
do you know who Oliver Anthony has?

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You remember we talked about him?
He did that song, uh Richmond,

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North of Richmond, And now I
have I have a radio edit of this

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song. What I would like to
do now? Oliver Anthony. He kind

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of became famous sort of overnight because
what happened is a lot of right wing

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podcast and online media personalities like Ben
Shapiro and Matt Walsh, you know,

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the whole Daily Wire crew and whatnot. They really got behind this song so

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and really kind of championed this song, and a lot of conservatives love the

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song. Now there's some backlash though
at all, for Anthony because he didn't

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like that. He says he didn't
like that the song was actually featured at

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the Republican debate because he said,
wait a minute, those those people on

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that debate stage there, there's some
of the same people I'm talking about.

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This has nothing to do with party. My song isn't about a particular political

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party. I'm talking about everybody in
Washington, both Republicans and Democrats. So

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now he's getting some backlash from some
of the conservatives who supported him. But

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what I would like to do,
I have not listened to this song all

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the way through. Now. Regular
listeners might recall a number of weeks ago,

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there was a big controversy around the
song Try That in a Small Town

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by Jason Aldeen, and I intentionally
avoided listening to that song because I wanted

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to play it on the show and
give you my live in the moment,

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unvarnish if you will reaction to it
and get feedback from the audience and get

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your thoughts and whatnot. And luckily
though, DJ Steve was in the Facebook

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live chat that day and said,
Hey, Matt, heads up there.

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You'll want the radio edit because Jason
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so I had to find the radio
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S word in it, but there
is a radio edit available, so I

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have not. Now I've heard more
of this song than I had heard of

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the Jason Aldeen song before I played
it on the show. But I've avoided

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listening to this song all the way
through for the same reason. I'm going

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to play the song all the way
through the radio edit of course, right

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here live on the air, and
give you my my reaction to it,

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and get your reaction, and of
course anybody in the audience who wants to

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react or has any thoughts on it. I've heard only the very beginning of

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the song. I have heard a
tiny bit of it. I had to

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hear enough of it to make sure
it was a legitimate radio edit. Fortunately,

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the first s bomb is very early
in the song, so I didn't

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have to get very far in the
song to hear. Okay, they did

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the reversal on that to make the
swear go away good, So this is

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a legitimate radio edit. So so
you haven't heard the song, right,

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I don't think though, okay,
So I'm gonna play it right now.

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The radio edit of Richmond North of
Richmond by Oliver Anthony and h And I'll

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tell you what I think. And
uh, well, let's it. I'll

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tell you what I think and we'll
hear what you all think. Here here

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we go. I've been selling my
soul working home day over time hours for

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bullish. Hey, so I can
sit out here and waste my live away

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drag back home and trown my troubles
away. It's a damn shame what the

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Hord's gotten to for people like me, people like you. Wish I could

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just wake up and it not be
true, but it is. Oh,

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it is living in the new world
with a hold soul. The rich man

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nor the Richmond Lord knows it all. Just wanna have total control, want

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to know what you think, want
to know what you do, and they

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don't think you know. But then
whole like you do, your dollar hate

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dish and it's taxing on him,
calls the red man on the rich man.

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Rich politicians look out from miners and
not just miners on an island somewhere.

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Lord, we got folks in the
street, ain't got nothing that heat

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and the hole be milking welfare.
God, if you're five foot three and

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your three hundred pounds taxes holding not
with pay or your bags of five drownds

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dumb and they're putting themselves since feet
in the ground is hold this damn country

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does is keep on kicking them down. Lord, It's a damn shame what

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the world's gotten to the people like
me, people like you. Ish I

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could just wake up and it not
be true, but it is all it

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is living in the blue world with
an hold soul. These rich men hold

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for Richmond. Lord knows, they
all just wanna have total control. I

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want to know what you want,
to know what you do, and then

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I'll thank you. Know, but
I know that you do because your dollar

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hangs ation and it's texting. No
hand calls a d S man, not

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a d span. I've been selling
my soul, working all day, over

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time hard for boldish pay. What
do you think that was the first time

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for me listening to it all the
way through, and I'm glad I've I've

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actually looked up some stuff about this
guy. I can see what he's saying.

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Uh, there's some stuff in there
that I think is kind of uncomfortable

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for me because he's doing like some
there's some notat shaming in there's some great

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about however, that being said,
when you actually, when I'm reading this

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man, what he is saying,
he's saying that the rich, the rich,

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it's the rich who hurt the poor. And I'm sorry, that's true,

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that's very true. The elitists did
never have to worry about their healthcare.

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The elitists don't worry about food on
their table. And yeah, They'll

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pay as craptastic as they can for
a salary to make sure that they keep

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pattenting those dollars. They gotta pay
for those little yats, they gotta pay

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for those stily clothes. They could
give two craps about the rest of us,

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as long as their cough is a
get in fult so in the in

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the in the vein of what he
intended for it. I cannot disagree with

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this man. I think that,
and I can support what he's saying.

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I well, one thing, I
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he kind of he kind of uh
at one point, and it's it's with

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the fat shaming comment. He's sort
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my thinking about this might be a
little bit tainted by some of what I

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was reading and hearing about the song
before actually listening to it. But he

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sounds like he kind of takes a
swipe at people who are unwelfare and I

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and I don't like that. Yeah, but but but he he sounds like

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he's doing it more combined with fat
shaming, like he doesn't do they the

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old Ronald Reagan welfare queen. Uh
nonsense, so right, And that's what

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I was saying, that's part of
the song that I have the discomfort with.

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Yeah, the over if I take
a broad view of what he's singing

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about, well, he's singing about
a lot of the same stuff that I've

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been talking about from podiums for the
last few months, about, Yeah,

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how we don't get we get cut
off in our healthcare. People are poor

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because they they're poor because they can
only afford their medicines. After that they're

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broke. They're made medically poor.
How many people have bankruptcies, lose their

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houses because of medicine? What he
just from that one perspective. To me,

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if I look at it in that
vein, I one hundred percent agree

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with the guy. But I mean
there's a lot of what he says it's

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absolutely true, and especially I gotta
say in some southern areas. When I

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was in Kentucky, the world was
very different, and I'm sure that it

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still is. From the north,
you know, maybe it's a different world.

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The pay scales are different. I
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We got told we weren't getting paychecks
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Because ninety percent of the people in
that room. Didn't know how a

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fax machine worked, what it does, never even saw one, you know.

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I saw a lot a slimy,
slimy stuff in Kentucky that would never

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get pulled off here. Yeah,
but they get away with it in the

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backwood there, at least they did
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my own personal experience, right,
I don't know what that world is like

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now. Maybe because we're all connected
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Oh, I'm sure I felt on
the job application that literally asked me

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if I was married, and if
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wanted my height, it wanted my
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So I remember what I said about
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that live on the air, I
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of it, just a song itself. And there by the way, there

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is no video for the well,
no, actually I think there is a

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video for the song. But it's
a simple This is a simplaint But you

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know, the Jason Aldean song,
of course, has this whole big produced

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video and there's controversy about the video, but the song itself. What I

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said about the song itself, because
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I said, this song taken by
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but I can see why if you
are racist, you would like this

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song. I would say about this
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are a I don't think the song
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from what Oliver Anthony is saying,
that was absolutely not his intention.

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However, I can see why conservatives. Why is something like you know,

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the Daily Wire crew, like Ben
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I can see why they got behind
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it's it's it's kind of a populist. It's become sort of this populist

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anthem, and there's different kinds of
populism, and it's kind of a right

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leaning sounding populism. So I can
see why they got behind the song.

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But there's a couple of interesting controversies
that actually have come out. So one

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is is what I said, he
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during that debate. And by the
way, for anyone who says, because

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I know some people are saying,
well, then why did he approve it?

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He probably didn't. They never usually
do. Well, here's the thing

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though, because some people say,
well, wouldn't he wouldn't He have had

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to have at least given his approval
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here's the thing. Well, yeah, there's a bit of a history of

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people using songs and political campaigns without
approval. But the other thing is this

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guy got very famous, very fast, and very rich. Well I don't

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know if he's rich looking at the
numbers. Oh okay, oh yeah,

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but yeah, but he got very
famous, very fast, and he probably

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I'm sure he has a team already
that had to be hastily put together who

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he probably has a management team who
said, well, of course you can

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use the song, and it wasn't
necessarily his decision. But so that's one

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controversy. So now he's coming out
and saying, no, they're part of

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the problem. They're the people I'm
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about one party. But the other
controversy is now he's also being accused of

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faking his accent because of a video
of an interview that he did where he

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talks about diversity. This is what's
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He talks about diversity, and he
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it's one of the things that is
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as you might imagine. Not everyone's
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he speaks. Now, some people
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I've seen online people saying, you
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used. I actually saw it might
have even been on this because I got

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this radio edit from YouTube. It
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you got used, dude, basically
saying that he got used by the

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Daily Wire and these other online conservatives
who made this song their anthem, and

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now they're mad at him because they
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with them. He's not with any
particular party. But but I think it's

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possible. And again I say this
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than most people probably have because of
you know, I come from a music

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industry background. I think it's possible
that this guy used the system to get

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himself famous. And if and if
I'm right, if this was intentional on

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his part. Bravo, well played, because this guy, no matter who

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likes a song or who doesn't,
and whatever backlash he's facing, this guy

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not only did he get famous almost
overnight with the song, but he's figured

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out how to keep his name in
the news with all the backlash. I

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mean, it's fantastic. If it
If it did all happen by accident,

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that's great too. But that's impressive. I mean, this is all I'm

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amazed. And here this is from
Newsweek. By the way, he's supposedly

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making forty grand a day on this
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a it's a viral law sensation certainly
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Oliver Anthony's meteoric rise to fame in
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scrutiny, this time focusing on his
accent. Last month, Anthony was an

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unknown country music hopeful, but thanks
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I didn't even realize it started with
Joe Rogan. He went viral overnight

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with this hit song, rich Men
North of Richmond. A video of him

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singing the song was uploaded to YouTube
on August seven and has received thirty four

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million views with more than a one
hundred thirty thousand comments at the time of

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the writing. It won press from
many well known conservatives for highlighting topics such

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as QAnon and Jeffrey Epstein. I
didn't catch a QAnon reference in there.

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I did catch the Jeffrey Epstein reference. He talks about miners on an island.

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The song also takes aim at taxation, welfare cheats, obesity, and

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makes references makes reference to sex trafficking. Well, that's yeah, that's the

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jeff Jeffrey Epstein part. Republican politician
Marjorie Taylor Green even dubbed the song the

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Anthem of Forgotten Americans, but his
newfound fans have already started to turn on

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the singer after comments he made during
a Fox interview. Anthony described blue collar

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workers as quote the melting pot of
the world unquote, and championed diversity,

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saying, quote, that's what makes
us strong. We need to learn to

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harness that and appreciate it and not
use it as a political tool to keep

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everyone separate from each other unquote,
he said, which earned the wrath of

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some conservatives on Twitter. Why is
he talking about deserted diversity. That's that's

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so, it's it's weird. How
that's pretty mild stuff. You know,

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you you you would you would think
he said, by the way, I

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you know, I love black lives
matter, and you know, all he

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said was, you know, diversity
and we're the melting pot of the world

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and we should celebrate that. That's
pretty mild. I'm looking at some of

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the comments that are being made.
So I told you this guy was a

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plant. Yeah, promoting what is
this promoted algorithm promoted algorithm boosted based red

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bearded hillbilly song guy was faking his
accent and says diversity is our strength.

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Why is he saying diversity? It
says here. There's more from Newsweek,

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It says now. His detractors have
claimed the Farmville, Virginia native has been

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faking his accent and pointed to the
Fox News interview with Griff Jenkins as proof.

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They claimed his accent was not Southern, even though his singing style would

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suggest otherwise. In Virginia, God, that is so ignorant. Come on,

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now, you can sing however you
want. It's art. You know

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what it's your If it's it's his
song, you can sing it. Every

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One he sounds too southern in the
song, so now he's a poser.

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Do you know that when people talk
and when people sing, they don't always

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sound the same. That's true,
I mean seriously, Like over look at

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any European band, they all sing
English, English, American accent English.

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Yeah, they were right. Yeah, the accent doesn't usual with rare exceptions,

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the accent doesn't usually come from when
someone's singing. Yeah, when they

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copy of Metallica song they try and
coffee and how Metallica sings it. Or

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Billy Joe Armstrong from Green Day,
he sounds like he's British and he's from

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California, so it can work that
way too. I met the guy who

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played House. He could speak perfect
English. Not it like he was born

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in Brooklyn. He's European, he's
British. He's actually when he talks in

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his regular voice, he's totally British
in his dialect. I think that's stupid.

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I think that that whole thing is
just stupid. I think they're just

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looking for something to latch onto because
he didn't turn out to be their boy.

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He hasn't he flat. He's denied
that he's a conservative. He says

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he's more of a centrist. You
know, he's totally denied that. So

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he's not playing along with what they
want. They're gonna find new reasons to

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hate him. He's a plant.
He's talking about diversity, and really he

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was talking about rich people just destroying
poor people, doing everything they can to

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make money and squeeze the money out
of the poor people, but you know,

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never going back to them. And
he literally did say that. He

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was talking about all of those people
that were on that debate stage. He

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literally said, right, I am
talking about you. So their tick now,

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this was going to be their guy
man, their new champ in song,

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and he's ruining it for him.
Yeah, it also, but you

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know that's it is true. It's
one thing that's really gross in politics is

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that they just don't seem to care
about personal property rights. Like they're all

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about property rights until it's somebody else's
song. Like, how many musicians have

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you seen I couldn't even think of
a name to quantify it. How many

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musicians you hear about complaining? So
when those used there my song in their

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rally, and I never told them
they could, right, Oh yeah,

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that's happened so much billion times because
They never asked for permission. They just

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do it. The New York Posts
has an article Oliver Anthony is singing for

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all of us hometown salutes rich men
of North Richmond. North of Richmond.

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Phenomenon says. This is a short
article. It says here the men south

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of Richmond were on a high when
viral phenomenon Oliver Anthony made a surprise appearance

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at a street festival here Saturday night. Anthony's rich Men North of Richmond is

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rocketed to number one on the Billboard
Heart one Hot one hundred, propelling a

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once known, once unknown songwriter from
south central Virginia into the national onto the

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national stage. But he's staying close
to his roots. Uh, I'm gonna

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skip down. I don't care about
that part, okay. Oh, this

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is more about the show that he
did recently. I mean, I like

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the guy a bit more after this
conversation. I'll say, I like the

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fact that he's standing up for what
he feels and he's not letting other people

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take it and try and twist it
into what they want. Yeah, I'm

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not crazy. I'm certainly I'm definitely
not okay with the fat shaming and you

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know, trying to do the wellfish
shaming. I think that's that's but see,

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that's that's a low blow to be
going to, especially if you're trying

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to talk about the rich men and
rich men, why are you talking about

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you know those aren't rich men.
But but it's also though the backlash,

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see the backlash to the song now
that's happening from the right. It's another

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example of what I always talk about, how we live in this binary political

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culture where you have to be all
the way on one side or all the

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way on the other, or you
just confuse you just confuse people. Because

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here's an example of there shouldn't be
any backlash coming from the right. The

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song has several conservative tropes, so
that doesn't mean so if you're a conservative

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and you like the song because of
that, then you shouldn't be mad at

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the guy for saying one thing you
don't like, or because he doesn't have

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the accent that you thought that he
had, or whatever it is. You

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can still appreciate the song. You
don't have to completely turn on the guy

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just because you thought you thought he
was all the way completely with you,

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and now you're going, oh,
maybe he's not really conservative, maybe he's

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more a right leaning guy or whatever. So oh now we have to be

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upset with him, like, oh
tis tis Matt, what are you ever

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thinking? I mean, it even
work, it even affects art, it

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even affects music. You know this, this this nastiness that exists, this

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this used to be that way.
But like, just to watch, I'm

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looking at another process. Person goes, where did alliver as an accent?

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Go? Also, why is he
saying diversity is our strength? Like how

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that's a bad sentence? Now diversity
is a bad word? How dare you?

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Oh how? Oh my? Never? We should just take the statue

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of liberty, like we should just
send up a sandblaster to just stand off

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the book because you know, we're
not give me your poor you're tired,

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you're hungry masses. We're not that
melting pot anymore. That's not what people

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want. Apparently at least these people
can we just this is why we all

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need to get out and vote and
speak up and talk, because if you

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don't, they're gonna win. And
when they win, every every every day,

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Joe loses, in my opinion.
In my opinion, I like the

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guy because he did stand up and
say no, don't take my song.

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It's not about you. In fact, you're the Actually it is about you,

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but not in a good way.
But I do like that, and

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I think the song isn't bad.
It's just the one fiction and his voice.

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Yeah, a lot of people who
came out because of course, again

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you have the polarization, so you
had all these uh conservatives online who championed

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the song. So of course you
have also all these people on the left

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who are condemning the song and condemning
him. They were, they're not condemning

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him anymore, but you know,
condemning the song, but not just not

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just the message of the song,
but saying, oh, he has no

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talent and all this terrible stuff.
And no, I think he's talented,

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and I actually like his vocal delivery. I have no problem with any of that.
