WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:07.160 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jake and Zalaz on Fox 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:14.000 Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:18.600 z R two SA at iHeartRadio Station. Yet. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:21.399 everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:25.519 I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jacon Zewis. We have our guys Sammy with us. 6 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:29.359 I'm glad you guys didn't enter the portal. And then again, you 7 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.679 guys have nowhere to go, so I understand why you're here exactly. Yeah. 8 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.799 I don't have any any nil money sitting anywhere else for me, So 9 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.479 I'm just right here. And what in fact, I don't have any money 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:43.799 here. I'm just gonna stay so I don't have to place to live. 11 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.359 Yes, No, Well, welcome to the day's create craziness. A lot 12 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.719 of big names in the portal. We'll get to that. Jed talked about 13 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:55.560 that a lot today in the Prescott talking right, and he made some great 14 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.399 points and he has some great examples in house and otherwise. Right right, 15 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.280 So, Arizona plays Oklahoma. Not a shock. We've kind of down that 16 00:01:03.599 --> 00:01:07.719 bus as a bust ability. Yeah, that was the one ball all week 17 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.519 long last week. People were kind of like pretty sure that that's what was 18 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:14.879 was gonna happen, and it did. Yeah, and so ANW they're head 19 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.200 of the San Antonio. I know us two will not be that that weekend 20 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.719 or that week. We have other things going on, so we won't be 21 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:23.959 done there. I'm not sure how many people are gonna be down there from 22 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:27.079 Arizona. Typically they don't they don't travel well at this time of year. 23 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:30.120 Well, you know, I was having this conversation with somebody and saying, 24 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:38.000 you know, Arizona fans, particularly football fans, travel to where they can 25 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.719 drive. Sure, so they're gonna go to San Diego. Remember there are 26 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.200 a lot of Arizona fans. Huge game. They're gonna go to Southern California. 27 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.680 You know, there's always a lot of fans in La At there's all 28 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.840 love and then they go to Vegas. Right, there's a lot of the 29 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:56.959 butchery r exactly all driveable. San Antonio is just just a bit about six 30 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.560 hours. Get a little out of the driving, you know, out of 31 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.680 the driving this. And so I don't think historically I think Arizona has been 32 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:07.000 in a couple of Almo Bowls. Yeah, and I don't think historically they've 33 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:12.240 Arizona fans have traveled well to those who knows what the excitement is sure level 34 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.719 is for this team having having not been in a boll since twenty seventeen. 35 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.759 Yeah, well I would just but they think about it, they're going, 36 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.680 and good for them, and we'll talk more about it with Jeff Jed's press 37 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.560 conference information. Yeah, he was very good, mister positive. Yes, 38 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:32.360 he always did. Yeh. He even self described it smiled when he said 39 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.960 that. But you know, I mean like I'm an example. Okay, 40 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:38.280 First of all, you know, I didn't think Arizona was going to a 41 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.319 post Christmas bowl game. I thought, you know, if they get at 42 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.879 what point I thought they know beginning of the Oh, of course, I 43 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.000 thought. I thought, if they get into a bowl game, they're going 44 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:51.280 to the l A Bowl, the Independence Bowl, maybe even the Las Vegas 45 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:55.599 Bowl, all before Christmas. So my family planned a family trip between Christmas 46 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.560 and New Year's sure that we can't change because of you know, you know, 47 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.360 we paid for stuff. Well, would you be going to this anyway 48 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.439 if you were not scheduled to that would you be going to this. I 49 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.800 think I would certainly be considering going, you know, if a destiny, 50 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.280 right, I haven't been to San Antonio since I was fifteen years old. 51 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:16.879 Yeah, it might not let you back. I know, Well my you 52 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:21.879 know my dad's rally. My dad's family lives about an hour outside of say, 53 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.240 definitely won't. Yeah, well, no, that's the good side of 54 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.199 the family. Well yeah, they get rid of Okay, I have the 55 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.879 dark side, but the dark side is here, the good side is over 56 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:32.840 there. And we would go there every couple of years, you know, 57 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.319 to visit his family. And the last time I went, I was fifteen 58 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.360 years old. Wow. And so I haven't been there since then. With 59 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.879 all the tournaments and like, remember there was a final I think the year 60 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.960 they lost to Kansas Jason Gardner year. No, no, they played in 61 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:50.000 n Anaheim. That was that was no, no, no, no. 62 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.000 The Jason Gardner year that they were in the Elite eight lost to Kansas and 63 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:59.400 the lead eight they San Antonio was that final four. I'd have to go 64 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.680 back and think there was a final four during that time frame. Sure, 65 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.719 it was the final four. During that time frame, Arizona was in the 66 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:11.719 lead eight and and lost that we were going. I think it was you 67 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.800 know where, uh yeah, for Jason Gardner missed a three pointer at the 68 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.720 at the very end against Kansas. I think that year the final fours in 69 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.439 sand Jina, we were locked, we were ready to go. We had 70 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:26.120 tickets, we had flights, we had hotel. We were going. And 71 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:29.600 that's the last time even came close to go for our family. We've got 72 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.519 We went through a lot for because if there's a lot to do and then 73 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.839 it's inexpensive, it's a lot of amusement stuff. The river Walk obviously, 74 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.120 and I'm from I came from Texas before I got here. But no, 75 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.439 it's a great place up So we'll see, I mean, they'll have fun. 76 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.160 I will see the girls. The women's final four was there two three 77 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.959 years ago, right right, So we'll get to that and we'll talk a 78 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:56.600 lot about the the the positive and negatives of yesterday's Big four. And I 79 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.319 want to go off on that. Go ahead, because I think you will 80 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.279 disagree with or you will disagree with him. But playoffs, Well here's the 81 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:09.680 thing, and I get it. I wait, wait, wait, who 82 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.199 did you think? Who'd you think should go in? Before the announcement. 83 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:15.839 Who do you think I thought Florida State should have gotten in with well along 84 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.480 with with Texas. I thought Alabama should have been left out. Okay, 85 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:25.160 so you're looking at Michigan, Michigan, Washington, Texas, Florida State. 86 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.240 That's where I thought it should have been. So you would have Florida State 87 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:30.199 as the four seeds. Yeah, so that my point. If they're an 88 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.279 undefeated team, they should have been the three over Texas. Yeah, but 89 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.680 but you know, in the in the same regard I think Washington. I 90 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.040 think Washington should have jumped Michigan. But since they were one and two they 91 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.800 both won, I thought, you know, well, the one that's through 92 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:49.120 this altogether bad was Alabama. Right, they won and through the missis right, 93 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.720 we expect what happened. I thought Florida Station got in, but I 94 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:57.160 thought I thought Alabama was gonna get in, and they did. It would 95 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.639 have happened the same way if Georgia would have won. It would have looks 96 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.480 as though they would have left Florida stayed out, and or State was out. 97 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.680 So yeah, Texas would have had to look because, yeah, because 98 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:11.120 they had to lose or win in like a narrow narrow fashion or something like 99 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.839 that. Yeah, but I mean if you watched the Florida State game, 100 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.000 it was clear. But see my thought on having Florida State in. But 101 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:26.199 the number four team acknowledges that they're not the team that they were because of 102 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.480 the quarterback situation. But to me, because they went thirteen and oh, 103 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:34.839 they should have been in. I don't care if Alabama and Georgia and anybody 104 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:39.720 else in the you know, in the in the country could beat them, 105 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.040 which I think they could. I think Georgia would beat them. I think 106 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.480 Alabama will beat them, But I think they earned the right to be in 107 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.240 there by going thirteen out and Alabama did not. And Alabama did not because 108 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.920 they lost the game. Let me throw this conspiracy to Texas though I don't 109 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.199 care who they lost, they lost the game. Before you start to throwing 110 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:00.120 closer, let me let me throw this conspiracy at you with a with a 111 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.800 not a competition, but the ESPN, because what fox that that esp Do 112 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:10.279 you think a bias was there given given Bama is the SEC. ESPN is 113 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:15.639 kind of tied to the SEC. YadA, YadA, one thousand percent. 114 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.439 It was it was about it was orchestrated a little it was orchestrated by all 115 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:24.199 of that A million percent that it was that. Okay, let me flip 116 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:30.079 it on you. Okay, do you think if the tables were turned if 117 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:36.920 Florida if Alabama was thirteen and oh with a second or third string quarterback playing, 118 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.800 all right, and Florida State had lost one game to say Texas, 119 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.399 but was a conference championship. Who's in It's a different conference, the ACC 120 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:53.040 state, the point being, the point being, flip it. Okay, 121 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.000 all things mean, flip it. Uh, Florida State's twelve and one, 122 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:03.920 likely twelve and one, good schedule really maybe even no, wait, maybe 123 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.959 even the beating Georgia sometime during the year. And Alabama is thirteen and oh, 124 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.279 but they're gonna play with their third string quarterback. Who gets in? 125 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.959 Alabama gets in because of the SEC. Well it's the SEC though, and 126 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.839 that and that didn't happen. Okay, if you do flip it, No, 127 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.560 but you don't know if Clemson was thirty no different, no hypothetical. 128 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.799 Okay, again, let just assume. Let's also assume that Florida State looks 129 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.759 like the better team than Alabama, but Alabama's undefeated and Florida State's twelve and 130 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.639 one, who's getting in. You can't say that though, that's what the 131 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.080 committee did yesterday. You can't say that, but I understand the art. 132 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.480 That's exactly what the committee did yesterday. They can't say. They can't say 133 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.840 for sure that Florida State would lose to Alabama. What's different too, because 134 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.279 the quarterback that got hurt for Florida State was one of the best quarterbacks in 135 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:03.159 the country. The quarterback Alabama has been substituted most like Sammy, you're not 136 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.840 understanding the well I understand. Hypothetical is if Alabama was in the situation that 137 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:13.399 Florida State is in, all right, with the with the whoever the quarterback 138 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.759 is, and Florida State was in the situation that Alabama was in, had 139 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.440 just won their league, beaten a great team. Let's say, okay, 140 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:22.919 let's say Clemson was number one, thirteen, twelve and zero going into the 141 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.799 going into the a SEC Championship game. Florida State's twelve and one. They 142 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.799 beat Clemson, all right, now, they're the conference champ. Clemson is 143 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:39.440 out. Alabama is undefeated, but they're going into the game game with their 144 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:46.720 third string quarterback who's in Florida state. Absolutely not. Alabama is in because 145 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.000 they've that's that's the point they've been making in the last couple of years that 146 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.799 the best four teams are in. And by point is that Alabama's in because 147 00:09:54.120 --> 00:10:01.120 of ESPN and the SEC bias. Definitely is there, Definitely is. But 148 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.320 No, because of all this, who would you bet to win it all? 149 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:11.000 I'm taking Washington and I'm taking Alabama. Right in Alabama, I think 150 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.240 they might win their next title because of all this. I think Alabama and 151 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:18.960 Washington is your championship game. Michigan's too good, They're not Michigan's the best. 152 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.559 Would it be? Would it be America twenty twenty three? America? 153 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.080 If Michigan wins it all? Yeah, wouldn't it be? Are you saying 154 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.240 this because you're a fan of No? No, I think they're the best 155 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:31.320 team by far. I don't think. I don't know. I don't know 156 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.879 because I haven't seen them enough. But they've beaten some pretty good teams. 157 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.879 But I think that Baton's going to beat the Scannwal muscle lemanold do. I 158 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.200 think that's what Michigan does. So should be a great game. I think 159 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.759 it will be. Dude, talk about your strength of schedule? What is 160 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:50.799 who's Michigan played Ohio State and Penn State, and that's it, both both 161 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.639 top twelve teams in the country and the rest of it. Okay, and 162 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:01.519 they brought somebody ran off the offenses. For the all the other teams, 163 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.639 they were all one hundred or worse, all of them. They didn't have 164 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.360 to play weekend and week out. But if you look at Washington did okay, 165 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.399 I mean you can. You can look at Washington. They're undefeated and 166 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.679 the PAC twelve is better than their conference. But Michigan is a better football 167 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.240 team. I'm not sure we'll see. I think there are are four points, 168 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.759 what's your? What's your? Michigan's are one and a half point. 169 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.399 I think Washington opened as like a two point favorite. Yeah, well let's 170 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.600 go. Let's go to the PAC twelve because we know the PAC twelve and 171 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.360 won't come back to this. I think Washington's an underdog. No, I 172 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.039 think so that need their favorite. Let's take a call, so you want 173 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.919 to call back, just please do. Let's go to Washington. I hadn't 174 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.399 seen that Washington team in a long time, but again, they beat the 175 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.399 crap out of Oregon, and I thought Oregon would be the Washington team I 176 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.440 saw on Thursday on Friday, because they beat the crap out of Oregon. 177 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.600 Oregon didn't have a chance even when they took the lead. Yeah, it 178 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.159 was like, who's this team? Well, and that's and that's why this 179 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:09.080 whole thing, Steve of we we're gonna put Alabama in the in the in 180 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.720 the playoffs because we think they can beat Florida State. You don't know, 181 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.120 everybody in the country thought Oregon was gonna win that game, not only just 182 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.360 win that game by a lot, and they got their ass. Kid, 183 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.879 there was another wrench that I thought would go in there. If Oregon would 184 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.480 have won the game, would they've even been in That would have been the 185 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:37.039 whole thing too, right then Florida still in Georgia would But see they they 186 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.919 raided Georgia below Florida State first. They came in at five and Georgia sure 187 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.759 and whatever number the six they think. Well, the funny thing about it, 188 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.960 we can debate this as we always do. Let's take this. HI 189 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.799 on the aar and I on the ball. I hit Jay, I'm I'm 190 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:54.879 riled up, as you can tell. Well, I don't blame you. 191 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.080 I don't blame you, you know, and showing that logic they were talking 192 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:03.840 about the other day, well yesterday they were saying that Alamba Alabama's you know, 193 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.039 their last six seven games, they've been playing great. Well, if 194 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.879 you go by their logic, why is in Arizona in the top four, 195 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.840 they've probably been playing for anybody else in the country in the last six seven 196 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.279 games, you know. Yeah. Also one thing too, is the ACC 197 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:24.360 had a better record against the SEC this year. They did. They did? 198 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.720 Yeah, yes, and so you know as that makes you know, 199 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.000 shouldn't that mean that the ACC is a better conference? You know, the 200 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.080 SEC is just so top heavy with a couple of teams. Well, the 201 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:43.519 committee had every reason to go ahead and not put an SEC team in the 202 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.639 in the playoff. There was all kinds of evidence as to why you could 203 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.200 do that, and then they didn't do it, right, right, I 204 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.960 totally agree. I don't think Alabama should have gotten And I think, you 205 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.440 know, to me, what's amazing that Florida State went undefeated without that quarterback 206 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:03.840 exactly continue the winning two games they look, I mean, but that doesn't 207 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.519 mean you have to win by fifty right, Well, it doesn't matter probably 208 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:15.519 how did Alabama? What did Alabama look like against Auburn? Right? A 209 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.200 miracle pass play? And they're not in? So hey, Brian, we 210 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.720 gotta run because we gotta we gotta get a get our guests, so that 211 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.360 thanks for colling. Look there, look we can. I mean, there's 212 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.960 good arguments on both sides, but I think all the ones on the Alabama 213 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.759 side are bad myself, and I still think they're gonna win it all, 214 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.080 which is and they could. I don't think they will, but I think 215 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.360 they could. And so if Alabama wins, then everyone that's saying that Florida 216 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.399 State should have gone in is going to be sitting there saying, well, 217 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.480 guess what Florida State might have won it? I disagree because because Florida State 218 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.879 is a thirteen in a point underdog against Georgia again again and and deservedly so. 219 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.360 But again, Oregon was a nine and a half point favorite of the 220 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.960 Washington and why are they all right, let's get out of here. We 221 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:05.799 gotta Kayden Luke, the star of running back for the state champion CDO, 222 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.440 won a state championship on Saturday in Phoenix, and so he'll be joining us. 223 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.840 We'll talk to him a little bit about what that's like. And then 224 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.279 in the second hour, we've got who do we have Steve? Oh, 225 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:31.840 we got Michael from There's a Daily Star stick around for all that. 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It's Steve Rivera and Jacin savits I on the Ball on 302 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.920 Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back to ian the Ball here on Fox 303 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.000 Sports fourteen. Becaunty. I'm Steve Roberta. He's jacinb z Owtz. Now 304 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:11.920 when the phone, we have State Champ Kayden Luke from CDEO. How are 305 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.200 you, Kayden? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing We're doing 306 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.559 well. Congrats on the big, big win. You had a fantastic game. 307 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.839 How does it feel even what three days later? Oh? It feels 308 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.839 great? Is this great? If it's something that you can't really explain, 309 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:33.279 It's a feeling that I think you can only understand in the moment. I'm 310 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.799 goohead. Well you want Have you won a couple of state titles in wrestling? 311 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.960 Have you? Yes? Sir, there's a party, a big difference 312 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.559 in as much as you have teammates now to join in on the fund rather 313 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:49.160 than individually, or I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah, explain please, 314 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:56.119 Okay, can you can you ask the question one more time? I'm 315 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.240 suing the the championship of the team must feel much different than it is for 316 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.799 your individual state titles in wrestling. Oh yeah, yeah, it does for 317 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.000 sure. I Mean, in wrestling, it's all on you. What you 318 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.680 put in is what you get out of it. And I think it's pretty 319 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.680 similar in football, but there's much more that plays into it. I mean, 320 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.920 at certain times you kind of have your lines got to make blocks for 321 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:26.240 you guys to score, and you guys got to run the ball good for 322 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:29.599 you to win the game. But in wrestling, I think it's kind of 323 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.359 just you and it's it's you and you. That's pretty much it. So 324 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.640 I think that's pretty much a difference. So going through the season, again, 325 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.920 we kind of asked this every time, you know, somebody wins a 326 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.559 championship like this, but going through the season, at some point you know 327 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.920 you're you're hoping, and then there becomes a point where you kind of expect 328 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.119 something like this to happen. Was there a point a game, something that 329 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.359 happened during the course of the season, a week of practice or whatever where 330 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.799 you got the feeling that this is a state championship team. When did that 331 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.160 happen for you guys? I think it really kind of kicked in there over 332 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.960 the summer when we were doing lift workouts and kind of just field work and 333 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.319 stuff like that. When we were kind of coming together and being a team. 334 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:18.200 Our chemistry was insane where you're just you could just tell right off the 335 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:23.680 bat. I mean you'd go up into practice and it's sharp. Everything is 336 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.880 almost pretty close to perfect. So once you kind of get a feeling of 337 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.920 that, it's just you kind of realize, yeah, we could we could 338 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.720 go all the way. And then I think kind of towards the middle of 339 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.319 the season, once we were doing pretty good, we were like, all 340 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:40.640 right, this is really happening. So well, you know, we saw 341 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:44.480 what happened last year. Obviously, we talked to coach p So a few 342 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.000 weeks ago before the playoffs, I think it was, and I think I 343 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:52.000 asked him about what happened last year kind of even brought you guys closer together 344 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:57.000 and helped with that as well. For one fact, Yes, how was 345 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:03.119 that? How did you guys yield that didn't deal with that? Yeah? 346 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.240 I think last year it kind of made us closer, just because there are 347 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.079 people trying to tear us apart and separate us, but they could. And 348 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:15.279 I think this year we really came together and became a family. And I 349 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.200 think when you when you when you expressed the same feelings as as people, 350 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.720 I think you kind of create a bond no matter what. So the blood, 351 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.119 sweat and tears that we went through last year and this year during practice, 352 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.599 every single day, during games, every single game, I think you 353 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.359 kind of just come together and become a brotherhood. So let me ask you 354 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.839 this. So we Jay and I went to your MIC come out and game, 355 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.279 the first one a month or so ago, right, and we were 356 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.480 there very impressed with both teams because you guys were very close obviously. Did 357 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.519 you think that did you think that we saw a state championship team there? 358 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.079 I didn't know because I didn't have anything to compare it to, but I 359 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.559 knew we saw two really good teams because you guys just you know, you 360 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.640 guys just fought and you didn't you have to do to win the right and 361 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.920 again exactly, you know, I mean, it looked like two really good 362 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.559 teams. It was hard to tell, though, and I guess when you're 363 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.079 seeing two really good and you're not seeing one good and one bad, you 364 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.880 see some differences. It was hard, but I you know, I think 365 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.559 what impressed me, you know, standing on the sidelines was the physicality of 366 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.599 your team and you in particular, just you know, just the way you 367 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.279 guys just pounded on people. And that was to me. Is that sort 368 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:32.400 of what the personality that your team took on early in the year or maybe 369 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.000 even last year, you know, when did you become that team that would 370 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.200 just love to just go out and beat the living you know what? Out 371 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:44.000 of teams like that. I think our motto is rushed for gold. So 372 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:45.880 I think in order to be able to do that, you kind of got 373 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.160 to go out and punch people in the mouth. And if you don't do 374 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.400 that, then you don't win games in our in our style of football. 375 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:57.680 So I think it's kind of almost a must in our program. It's funny 376 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:02.880 because there's there's one person that I would not mess with, and that's a 377 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.160 wrestler. They know they are their angle. They know angles, they know 378 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.119 leverage, they know dedication to the sport and all that, and then you 379 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.359 brought it up. You brought it to football where you're like Jonah, you're 380 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.160 hard to tackle because you're like a human bullyball With all due respect, Yes, 381 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.960 sir, do you feel that way? Do you feel that way because 382 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.319 you are all that? I'm humble, I think, I think, I 383 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:32.000 know, I know I'm a pretty good ball player, but yeah, for 384 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:36.480 sure, definitely plays a huge role in it. Yeah, I think wrestling 385 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.960 kind of set me up to play football the way I do. It's all 386 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:45.359 a mentality, and I think the I think it's about eighty percent mental and 387 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.400 the rest of it's physical. I mean, it's usually how you prepare your 388 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.960 mind before a game is the way you're gonna play. So I think wrestling 389 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.519 pretty helped me out with that pretty good. So walk us through your run 390 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.480 in the playoffs, because you know you're you're going in, you're you're you're 391 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:07.480 you're undefeated, you know you haven't lost the game, and you handled pretty 392 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.400 much everybody. Mike Comount was you was a close game. You know, 393 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:17.880 you pretty much handled everybody really well. Pressure, expectations, confidence. What 394 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.359 were all the things that were going through your minds as the playoffs started? 395 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:26.079 Then as you went through that, I think confidence was super high. We 396 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.160 knew, we know what kind of a caliber team we are, and I 397 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.680 think once we kind of went through that first round of playoffs, so we 398 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.799 knew how it was going to end up happening. And I think, uh, 399 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.200 it really just played itself out, and I think it kind of just 400 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:45.240 shows you, uh what what happens when you have players that lead a team. 401 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.720 I mean, Coach Piece is a great coach, the greatest in the 402 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.799 state, I feel like, and I think you we have such a veteran 403 00:27:52.839 --> 00:28:00.519 group that we we almost lead ourselves in some points, and I think that's 404 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.279 something that Coach Peace has showed up very greatly. So it's funny. I 405 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.799 was gonna ask you about Piece before you said that, because we've had him 406 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.440 on the show. He's a friend of mine, he's a neighbor of mine. 407 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.400 He's kind of like just a dude. I mean, he's not a 408 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:18.599 flamboyant guy. He's a mild mannered guy. How is it playing for him? 409 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.680 Oh, he'll get on you, if that's for sure. He will 410 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.839 for sure get on you, but he you know, he loves you at 411 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.000 the end of the day, and he has your back no matter what, 412 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.720 through sick and sin. I know he's had my back. So I'll vouch 413 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.519 for that guy any day of the week, no matter what. And he's 414 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:41.400 one of only he's a few won two titles, yeah in the state and 415 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:47.119 from Tucsa. Yes, sir, Yeah, he's a very very good coach. 416 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.200 A lot of people have mentioned also Coach McKee, who has been a 417 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.720 head coach and who was a very good head coach in Tucson. Joining the 418 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.640 staff, you know, how much of a difference can somebody like that make, 419 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.279 you know, to come in as an assistant but with a lot of 420 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.359 high level experience for you know, for for high school football, how much 421 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:11.319 of a difference can can that have overall the team? I think McKee is 422 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.680 a very very different human being. He knows his place and he knows his 423 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.279 level of respect for coach piece and I think that's kind of what set him 424 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:23.000 aside from everybody else. I mean, I think bringing in another head coach 425 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.680 from another team is a pretty difficult thing because they feel that they play the 426 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:34.440 role of almost becoming another head coach. But McKee really knew his role and 427 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:40.359 he was he was there making it easier for coach Piece and I think he 428 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.160 was probably one of the greatest things that happened to our football team coming to 429 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.559 us. So he's helped us out a lot, a lot this year, 430 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.839 So thank you to him for sure. So Steve mentioned, you know, 431 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.000 we were at that Mike Mountain game, which by the way, was in 432 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.119 mid October. Steve so, well, yeah, but then you guys play 433 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.720 him again in the in the semi finals. You handled them pretty well twenty 434 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.319 three to seven. It's a what was the difference between those two because the 435 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:07.960 other game was that was, you know, nip and tuck all the way 436 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.920 to the very end. Well, what do you think was the difference the 437 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.240 second time around? You guys being in twenty three seven so pretty well handled 438 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.960 them. I think we're more confident in the second game, just because we 439 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:25.359 kind of knew what we were up against. But I think that's a hard 440 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.079 question, and I don't know. We were more confident and we were just 441 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.000 playing like football. I think the first time we played them, we were 442 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.839 kind of playing to win, but the second time we were just doing what 443 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.000 we do in play. So we got about four minutes. I wanted to 444 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.559 ask you about you You won a state title or two in wrestling, right? 445 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.440 Yes? Only one? Right now? Only one? Well of them? 446 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.119 Sure's another one coming up ahead. What's what's your future like? Given 447 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:55.319 that you're you're what five ten twenty ish? Yeah? Five ten? More 448 00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:00.000 on the five to eleven. I believe I'm a five eleven guy. You 449 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.920 So what you do? You have a chance to play at the next level 450 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.359 football wise? Uh, I'd like to think so. Yes, anybody chasing 451 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:15.400 you down, I think they're showing a little bit of attention, but definitely 452 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.519 not not like odd life, okay for sure? But would you would you 453 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.519 rather wrestle or play football? I'd rather play football in college? Yeah? 454 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.799 What? What? What? What? What? What is it about football 455 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.240 that that you say that? Uh, there's there's just a different love for 456 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.960 it. It's a it's a different ball game for sure. You go into 457 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.359 games and it's kind of it's a brotherhood, and I think that's something that 458 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.160 I love about it. And wrestling. I love wrestling. Uh, wrestling, 459 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.559 you're kind of just by yourself, But in football, it's it's definitely 460 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.240 a camaraderie in a brotherhood. Yeah, no question. I'm surprised. So 461 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.799 no offers yet at any level for the college. I have two offers as 462 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.519 of right now. They played Division two, so one from Lake Forest and 463 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.880 then the other is from New Mexico Highlands. Oh, okay, okay. 464 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.920 In fact, in fact, the quarterback, the former quarterback for the Sugar 465 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.640 Skulls went to Highlands in Las Vegas. It's amazing to me. You kind 466 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.680 of you know. The thing about it with you is you're kind of an 467 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:22.240 old school running back, right, You're kind of more of a full back 468 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:27.759 fullback guy. Yes, for sure, Yes, do you like that? 469 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.559 But you can't teach what he's got, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 470 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.119 I think I think I kind of grew up watching the select few guys 471 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.920 and I think I kind of just made it into my own. And I 472 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.880 think it's it's a dying breed for sure. You don't really see much of 473 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:46.039 it anymore. So I love it. I think it's definitely something that you 474 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.519 don't see very often, but it does. It's a dying breed, and 475 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.000 I think very little colleges kind of rolled that way anymore. So I think 476 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.000 it does kind of screw me a little bit in the recruiting style. But 477 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.160 we'll see. Yeah, well, I do know. I think I recall 478 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.880 saying to Steve when we were watching you that might come outain game that I'm 479 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.920 pretty sure that I wouldn't want to get in front of you for whatever that 480 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:15.319 for whatever that's worth. So uh, but you're not exactly exactly there's that 481 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.480 too, But well, well, Kayden, we do appreciate. Good congratulations 482 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.279 again, you know you guys came close last year then you know you got 483 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:28.200 all the way through. Congratulations to you and and your coach. Yes, 484 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.880 sir, thank you. I appreciate it. Okay, be well, be 485 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.960 well enjoyed this, so enjoy this moment. Then it doesn't happen very often, 486 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.759 right and doesn't happen to a lot of people. Okay, good luck 487 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.680 to you for sure. Thank you, guys. I appreciate everything. Can 488 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.920 Luke. Very impressive, dude. You're impressive, dude, because man, 489 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.200 if you if you've met a wrestler, yeah, you know, Dick told 490 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.160 me would have loved him. You know, why, who's the guy from 491 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.880 St. David that was a wrestler, that was a linebacker? I think 492 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.480 it was Saint David. No, you're thinking you're thinking of Marcus Bell, 493 00:33:54.519 --> 00:34:00.240 who from from up in the Pine Top Show. A small time dude, 494 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.880 but a heck of a player. Was a former wrestler. You don't mess 495 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.559 with these dudes. But he was. He was. He was the anchor 496 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.559 of that defense in ninety eight, and no one really chased him down right 497 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.760 because he just do was a good athlete. You're just a really good college 498 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.119 linebacker. How to where to get to, how to play? And and 499 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.599 and my guy here you what's your what's your name? Sammy? You played 500 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.800 some sports. I mean it's all about angles out smarting and if you're talented 501 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.000 even more, Oh, no doubt. I was a strong safety in high 502 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.639 school and I'm all of five eight one sixty. Yeah, how strong were 503 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.880 you? I could go? Okay, yeah, see he's got some guns, 504 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.119 got some goods. So stop arguing with him. I didn't say I 505 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.679 was gonna fight him. I'm just gonna argue with him. Okay, we 506 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.519 gotta go all right, let's say, let's talk about hoops. We gotta 507 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.920 talk about hoops. It's coming up. I know we're going to talk about 508 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.400 this at Alabama Florida State thing for a month. And we got some Jets, 509 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.360 and we've got some jet clips to play from a press conference today, 510 00:34:53.400 --> 00:35:00.360 so be sure to come back for a bunch of them and home about the 511 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:13.320 time I had that Thursday to'd say that girls good. 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I went 559 00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:52.079 to the dentists for a new Dennis right last week and my old Dennis played 560 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.719 I think the ninety four point nine, which is just, you know, 561 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.239 kind of soft rock kind of thing. My previous tennis before that played what 562 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:04.400 I call smooth. Asked which I happened to like, right, like jazz? 563 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.079 Right, not yacht rock, which is kind of like jazz. So 564 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.440 I love with this one. Yeah, country, and I asked, I 565 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.440 asked, I asked the hygess. I said, Okay, who picks the 566 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.199 music? She said, Wow, we try and pick something that's sort of 567 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:22.559 neutral. I said, country is not neutral, definitely, There's nothing neutral 568 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.679 about country. Oh no, no chance. How you do how you do 569 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:31.159 bigging ingredient. Hey, let's we'll talk more about basketball on the other side. 570 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.639 Let's do that. Let's get to Jezz Okay, okay, because he 571 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.119 had a lot of cool things to say on a lot of great a lot 572 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.760 of great questions like you, and a lot of portal stuff. So let's 573 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.519 get to the portal stuff. Because the portal has opened. Always worrying that 574 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.199 you know, who's gonna leave Arizona. They had some things happened last year, 575 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:52.239 some guys who left unexpectedly. So first just his general impressions of the 576 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:58.000 portal, uh and and how they handle some things. He he this is 577 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.880 kind of a long answer because it was or long because it was an answer 578 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:05.960 to two different questions. Let's just play what you had to say. Yeah, 579 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:12.079 you know, I think that in regards to players that have gone into 580 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.880 the portal from other programs, there's certainly been some people that I've had to 581 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:21.639 evaluate and make decisions on. You have to make very fast decisions, and 582 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.360 recruiting, you can make long decisions. You know, you might know them 583 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.760 when they're a sophomore in high school, a freshman in high school, a 584 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.920 junior in high school. Here, now you have a decision that you need 585 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.519 to make. If you want to use one of your spots on a guy 586 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:40.719 that you evaluated for seven minutes and things are very very different in that regard, 587 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.599 then you have to start trying to do research. But while you're doing 588 00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.920 research, and other team's trying to get them, So it's a much more 589 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:52.159 challenging deal for a head coach. And then you know, maybe there's a 590 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.800 couple of meetings here or there. I haven't had any with our own roster. 591 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.159 I did not have to do that, but a year ago we did. 592 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.559 But you know, there's always going to be people that are trying to 593 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.199 take your players, so you've got to avoid that, and you've got to 594 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:14.519 make sure that these players understand their value to this program. And as I 595 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.840 told our guys, you know, if our whole team stays together and that 596 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.639 recruiting class of twenty twenty two and that transfer class of twenty twenty two, 597 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:28.519 if you start adding that group together, when you start adding Tanner McLaughlin, 598 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.239 Jacob Cowing, Jaden Delora, Noa Fa feed a Team, Kevin Green, 599 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.280 Price Sock to Carrio, Manu Keyan, and you just go down the list 600 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.800 of guys that played that were in part of that class of twenty two. 601 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.159 There should be an ESPN thirty for thirty done about them in ten years and 602 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.559 that which should be if we all stay together, and the amount of games 603 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.280 that I think they can win this year and next will be the story of 604 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:58.440 college football. Yeah, in fact, you said thirty for thirty es, 605 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:00.719 it would be a good time, would be funny, they would. I 606 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.920 smiled for that one too, It would be. But it's gonnas a nice 607 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.320 story. Come on this team, this team was not. He's getting a 608 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.400 lot of talk now. Yesterday on the shows they mentioned in Arizona. They 609 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.039 said, how good of a job he's done? So they're being noticed. 610 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.320 I We'll ask the questions down the road, because I've asked you the question, 611 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:21.559 didn't I didn't think it was appropriate today. But historically they played well, 612 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:23.159 right for a year or two a year, and then it doesn't go 613 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:29.400 anywhere. Historically Historically, that that's what that's what Arizona football has done over 614 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.039 the years. You know, three times really in mind that I can think 615 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.239 of maybe four they thought, Okay, Arizona is on an upward path, 616 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.360 right, and they had a great season. Eighty six was one ninety three 617 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.880 was one, ninety eight was one, and twenty fourteen was one, and 618 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:52.920 in all four cases he fell flat the very next year and lost all everything 619 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.480 that they'd gained. So let me let me ask you. We know a 620 00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.320 couple of those were during Dick's time, and we experienced some of because we 621 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.320 covered so and we knew how he was because we covered the team back then. 622 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.320 But do you think that he because of the success, You think that, 623 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.199 Okay, the prettier girl's gonna like you now because you're having success. 624 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:13.000 And then he shoots for those threads. He shot for those guys, remember, 625 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.000 and and he didn't get him, and he came in second place a 626 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.079 million times exactly. So then you have to get what you get, right, 627 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.400 right. Was that a problem? Well? I think that's I think 628 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:23.639 that was the case in ninety eight, that they thought, Okay, we're 629 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:30.119 here, we're gonna go after that guy. In ninety four, that season 630 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.079 went flopped. Later, Dick, you know, just told me himself because 631 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:40.119 he didn't think that the guys were as committed in ninety four in the off 632 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.000 season to doing the work that they needed to do to sustain that and and 633 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.639 he felt that they really kind of let you know, let themselves down in 634 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.159 that particular one ninety eight was the year where, like you said, he 635 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.199 said, Okay, we're gonna try and go get you know, the five 636 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:59.480 star guys or whatever they the system was back then, and they kept finishing 637 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.440 in second place for those guys, and you know, the U c l 638 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.719 A's and the US season, the Notre Dames and all those, you know, 639 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.159 kept sweeping those guys up, and that's what happened. But you know, 640 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.079 you hope for that, right it's just if Arizona can get some pooting, 641 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.280 some putting and maybe maybe a jet is that guy that'll get some. 642 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.400 But his footing personally is questionable too, because now that you've had so much 643 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.599 successful people are going to be chasing well again you haven't managed so much and 644 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.000 you're having to manage, you know again, as they keep saying, you 645 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.519 got to recruit your own guy, right to make sure. And he talked 646 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.760 about that, and you know, he was asked about, you know, 647 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.880 what are you doing to make sure that you're you know, guys aren't coming 648 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.400 to get your guys at the same time you're going to get other other people's 649 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:44.480 guys. Here's what he had to say. Yeah, well, I would 650 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:50.119 say that the last year group was very different than than this group, you 651 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:54.159 know, And then I would say that we all learned from a year ago 652 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.840 and what that what the results are, and what that looks like. H 653 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.599 I would say if a guy usually they don't come to you. Usually they 654 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:13.360 come tell you. But I don't envision that with the team that we have. 655 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.760 And I have challenged all of our players, ask all the guys that 656 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:23.320 have transferred in here, what do they like about here versus what do they 657 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.280 like about their other places they've been, and which way where would they choose 658 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.239 to go if they could do it all over again, And then research all 659 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:37.519 the guys that aren't here and that have made decisions for wrong reasons. Now, 660 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.280 there's a lot of people that transfer because of the fact that it's the 661 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.519 right thing to do for that person. Hey, I don't think I can 662 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.239 be a starter here. I don't think I can be in the set too 663 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.920 deep, and I want to go play football. And if that's the case, 664 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:55.239 that's why a lot of people transfer. There's the few that everybody likes 665 00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:00.480 to talk about that make decisions for financial sake, And at that case, 666 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:07.280 is that really a wise decision. I can tell you that if we're only 667 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.880 making decisions based on money, there'd be a lot of different scenarios that are 668 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.760 occurring out here. There's a lot more that has to go into it than 669 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:22.199 just money, and I think that is really the key. No, No, 670 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.840 he's right, and the college landscape has changed tremendously, especially since we 671 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.960 covered it many years ago and even in the last five ten years. I 672 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.360 think, Michael Luke, did you cupe the last question about everything that's going 673 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.880 on in the whole calendar? And all? Right, there's no right or 674 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.599 wrong. It's like the four that you pick. Is there a right, 675 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:47.360 right or wrong answer for this one? It all involves timing, hoping right. 676 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:52.480 And the question was about, you know, last time he was a 677 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.599 coach in a bowl game, he didn't have transfer portal, nil, all 678 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.039 the stars to deal with, and there's all these things. Plus you've got 679 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.400 you know, the early sign period coming up, right, and you just 680 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:06.280 talked about having to manage that calendar and change that he thinks how to be 681 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:12.519 made. Yeah, I would say this, Michael, that it's certainly unique. 682 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.719 It's a unique time in college football to like balance it all out like 683 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:22.800 we had our end of year banquet yesterday, and then yet you know you 684 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.239 have the transfer portal opening today, and then yet we have all of our 685 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.440 coaches out on the road at home visits. Tomorrow, I'll be in home 686 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.280 visit in one state, then the next day in another state, then the 687 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.880 next day in another state. And yet you're still trying to monitor what's happening 688 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:44.239 back here. I've got Oklahoma film on in my computer, because you know, 689 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:49.159 I don't just recruit and be mister positive. I also have to call 690 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.360 an offense and run the offense, and to do that, you know that 691 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.960 takes a lot of work. So there's been a lot of different things that 692 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.719 are happening the same time. There has to be a better way to regulate 693 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.079 the roster from the NCAA perspective, and what that means I don't know. 694 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.320 I mean, I've always said maybe a salary cap would be a great thing 695 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:20.880 to have so your roster isn't dealt with in a piece meal and you just 696 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.239 have a better idea on how to do it. Maybe it's a better way 697 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:29.000 of having an early signing period. Can maybe you can just sign it any 698 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:34.360 time as long and that commitment has to stay firm unless there's a coaching change. 699 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.920 Maybe there's a way to just figure out a way that you can open 700 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:46.119 the transfer portal up after bowl games, not before. So let the CFP 701 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:52.440 finish and then open up the portal, especially if I was coaching a team. 702 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.000 You know, if you're coaching a team like like us, there's playing 703 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.840 a first bowl game since twenty seventeen, and you know that's a big deal, 704 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.880 and the last thing you want to do is start losing players in the 705 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.079 portal. And you know you're asking donors and you're asking alumni to come support 706 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.719 the game, and then they're like, who am I supporting? So it 707 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.880 would be a nice thing if they said, hey, your team is your 708 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.760 team, and when the football season comes to an end, that is the 709 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.920 day of the National Championship game. That is when the season comes to an 710 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.800 end. At that point you can enter the portal. And if you have 711 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.920 to do an early signing period, then maybe you could say we're going to 712 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.159 use some time in December. But how fair is that to the guys that 713 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:36.519 are playing a bowl game December sixteenth. You know they're trying to prep for 714 00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:37.719 a bowl game, and now you're saying, at the last second, you 715 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.880 got to try to also sign your players. At least we have an eight 716 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.239 day runway between the signing day and the bowl game. So I think a 717 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.280 lot has to change. It's not where it needs to be by any means. 718 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.280 Yeah, there's a lot there, just a lout there. Well, 719 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.480 you know, I'll just all this again, you know, all the stuff 720 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:57.559 they got to deal with. As he said, I've got to do. 721 00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.960 You know, I got you know, I gotta go recruit. I gotta 722 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.840 go be in house, in in home so that I can get these guys 723 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.800 and get them signed, so I get my recruth. I gotta pay attention 724 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.119 to who might believe in my program and pitch attention to who I need to 725 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:13.559 go get for my program. At the same time, I gotta start figuring 726 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.239 out what plays we're gonna call against Oklahoma, right, you know, and 727 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.559 and look at it and then look at it from the Oklahoma side, right, 728 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.320 product of breaking new stuff. But they've had a couple of key players 729 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.840 jump into the portal, well, the whole landscape. The season's over. 730 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.760 But it's not because people are jumping ship unbelievable people. Because there's always a 731 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.480 bag to be found and your bag at the house, is Bobby not as 732 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.320 good as the bag that you're gonna get presumably presumably right? Uh, and 733 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.239 that's what they're hoping, right The quarterbacks, I will get to that. 734 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.559 We have too many circul waits for that. But I'm sure you have a 735 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:46.840 long list of people that are I mean sure I have a couple. But 736 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:51.159 yeah, the whole the whole Bull season. He brings up a good point 737 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:57.079 with the transfer portal starting today and Bull Season happening after this, with a 738 00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.719 lot of gettings to be played, And I totally get it's fair if if 739 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.519 we use Kayleb Williams as an example, if he's not going to play in 740 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.840 his bowl game to get ready for the NFL. I understand he's not playing 741 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.840 in the National Championship. Sure you want him to play, but he's not 742 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.800 going anywhere that's not the NFL. He has more to lose than to gain. 743 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.800 Sure, it's it's different to be like the quarterback for Oklahoma's like I'm 744 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.840 not going to play for a team that I've poured my sweat and blood and 745 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.800 tears in for this year just because now all of a sudden, I'm going 746 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.639 somewhere else, Like I feel like that that's a tough thing, even as 747 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.760 a head coach and as a program to like come to terms with. It's 748 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.960 it's like Jed said that a lot does need to change, especially when it 749 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.079 comes to the portal well, and it's because things have changed. I'm sure 750 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:42.400 enough to move change with the changes. And here we are because there's been 751 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.079 a ton of changes in the last three four years. And I understand it 752 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.960 from a student perspective, like if you're transferring, you you want to be 753 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.519 able to get to your next school over quote winter break. I guess that. 754 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.639 I guess that makes sense. But it's also like, right, these 755 00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:00.800 these kids, most of them like have their classes hand picked by whatever mentor 756 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.760 or whatever. So it's like that that's a that's kind of a cop out 757 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.400 from the n c A of like they're gonna be fine if they if it 758 00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:13.119 takes them a week more to get to wherever they need to go. I'm 759 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.519 pretty positive, right, right, Okay, cool, the good first style, 760 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.840 right, good fun, We're gonna have no blood, no blood in 761 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.800 the studio. We're gooding. I told you I'm not fighting. Then he's 762 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.880 a strong safety leave for your own good I was. I was a week 763 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.760 Safety all right, we'll be right.