WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:08.759 You're watching Your Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. Today's guest adult film star 2 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:15.839 Sarah Saint Clair. Here's your host, Matt and Shane. You're watching Your 3 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:19.800 Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. I'm Matt and I'm joined by my lovely 4 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.879 co host Shane. Hello. Go to your Worst Friend dot com to see 5 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.760 all of our other interviews and follow us on social media at Worst Friendcast. 6 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.640 Today, Ladies and gentlemen, we're joined by a very special guest. You 7 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:36.280 might know her from such cinematic masterpieces as I Came Inside My Sister five and 8 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.200 Wife's Desperate for Dick six. She's an AVN nominee, and as we'll talk 9 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.000 about coming up, she's now a published author. You can find her on 10 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:51.920 Twitter and OnlyFans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx and on Instagram at Silly Sarah ninety 11 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.840 one. Links to everything are going to be in the episode description as always, 12 00:00:56.159 --> 00:01:00.159 and her new book Romance Costs Extra is available now on Amazon, so 13 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.359 make sure you go out and pick it up. Ladies and gentlemen, join 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.879 us in welcoming the stunning, the eloquent, the perfectly crafted Sarah Saint Clair. 15 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.200 Hello, Sarah, thank you very much for coming on with us today, 16 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.000 so keep having me on like talking to authors. So it's a real 17 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.040 weird balancing act because we have like this gorgeous ten sitting in front of us 18 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:23.840 that does all kinds of sexy, dirty things that I'm sure people want to 19 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.239 hear about, and all I want to know about is like, oh, 20 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.879 the book writing process. Let's talk about this. So don't be surprised if 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.760 it seems like we're inter cutting questions for the fans with questions for us here, 22 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.040 I'm all about it. Cool. If we could start, could you 23 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:47.280 tell us how you initially got into the adult entertainment industry. I started modeling 24 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:52.680 and stripping, and from there I did British videos and stuff, and at 25 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:55.359 that point I was already maked on the internet, so I said fuck it 26 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.920 it and went all the way it did born. There you go, that 27 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:05.640 makes sense? Did you have the next now? Because I've heard that before 28 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:09.560 snowball effect and whatever, and even before prior to only Fans, Because now 29 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:14.560 the headlines that come out of only Fans, it's like people are thinking, 30 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.879 sadly, some of these newer girls like oh, I'll be on only Fans 31 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.000 for like six weeks and I'll be making one hundred grand a month and blah 32 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.000 blah blah, blah blah blah blah. What was the promise at the time. 33 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:28.120 Was it just a little bit incrementally more money every time when you would 34 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:32.400 snowball like you said, was it just another step into fame? Like did 35 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:36.280 you think, well, if I do porn, it'll help my stripping career, 36 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.879 or if I do this, it'll help this, Okay, go yeah, 37 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:44.919 No, Well it's funny because my goal in life is to be a 38 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.639 famous writer. So I wanted to get into like the sex business to have 39 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.199 all these cool stories tell the world. So I did porn. So I 40 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.759 wanted Sarah say Claire to be a known name. So that way, when 41 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:59.800 I turn into the famous writer that I'm about to beat, I already have 42 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.560 a name to myself. That is the best way to do it. Establish 43 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.840 a fan base first, and then you can go. It was never really 44 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.680 about like the whole like money aspect. Is more just like conly the notoriety 45 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:15.280 that having the name the fan base. Sure that makes sense. I used 46 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.439 to back in high school when Facebook was big, I would befriend porn stars 47 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.840 on Facebook, and I had this one guy at my job go like, 48 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.840 this is look, I understand this is this is corny, but this is 49 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.960 when Facebook was cool, and I thought I had brilliant ideas. I knew 50 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:38.520 someday I would have some sort of website or media project or something else going 51 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.599 on. And at the time on Facebook, all these porn stars had four 52 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:45.319 thousand and five thousand followers or whatever it was. So this guy at my 53 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.120 job was like, I see what you do. You follow all the porn 54 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.680 stars and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a great 55 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.919 wall to be able to post on and be like, hey, check this 56 00:03:53.080 --> 00:04:00.599 out. So there's I've always had these ideas of kind of like, you 57 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.400 know, path of least resistance to getting out there and getting supposed. You 58 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.000 seem like you went the more difficult way, which is, you know, 59 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:15.400 on your back surrounded by dudes. What kind of like what kind of anxiety? 60 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.360 Did you have any kind of anxiety jumping into it the first time? 61 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:23.000 No? Go ahead, sorry no. So weirdly enough, my only anxiety 62 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.279 was so I was always like the really shy, nerdy girl of school, 63 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:30.959 Like I sat by myself the lunch. So the most anxiety that I had, 64 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.839 like that I had have slashed and porn is I don't know. It's 65 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.839 like going on set not really knowing anybody because I don't live in La but 66 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:41.120 I'm not out there with people like being in like you know, like the 67 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.959 whole like friend group whatever. So my anxiety was when I felt on set 68 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.279 and I'm just like standing there by myself and already knows everybody. Shane, 69 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:55.279 you got any questions? Yeah, so you said that you jumped into porn, 70 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.920 you know, like as a springboard for the notoriety, but also to 71 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.480 have like a bunch of cool stories to write about. So are all these 72 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:13.040 stories are they like intended to be for like an auto biography? Is that 73 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:16.639 the purpose to have them? Or is it to inspire tons of fiction projects? 74 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.519 Like oh, this was a crazy thing that happened. I could write 75 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:25.519 a whole book about it. Yeah, so Romance Class Extra. It started 76 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:30.480 out as an autobiography, but obviously I had like change names, locations, 77 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.199 like, So I've been telling people that although it's meant to be an autobiography, 78 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:40.279 it's more based on a true story, like real fiction. But that 79 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:44.120 makes sense. So it's like Texas Chainsaw massacre, Like some parts are like 80 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:49.360 real, but like there's some stuff. Yes, that's like my favorite movie. 81 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:57.360 Okay, Halloween, that's my whole sleeve. Yeah, we're we're we're 82 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.759 doing our Halloween specials now we're recording with different people. So let's ask do 83 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.519 you like the original Texas Chainsaw or did you like the Jessica bal One? 84 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:12.639 Oh? Original Porsure. Original's fine. But we also said, right Shane 85 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.560 during our interview we did the other day with a movie expert, it's a 86 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.839 good remake that Jessica bial One's not a bad one. It's for remake. 87 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:25.680 It's very good. Yes, yes, for sure. All right. So 88 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:30.720 the book writing process, now, nothing seems more tedious to me as a 89 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.399 guy behind a microphone than sitting down and writing a book. I know, 90 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.519 I did my research into you. You went to college for journalism, I 91 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.319 believe, right, Yeah, Okay, I started writing when I was like 92 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.560 twelve. You know, I had always been the type that came up with 93 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.800 ideas, and then when it actually came to writing, it seems, like 94 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.240 I said, kind of tedious, like oh, I got to fill this 95 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.040 in, I gotta fill this and can I just tell you in five minutes 96 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.199 what the whole story is? So how do you and I read the first 97 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:06.279 chapter of your book today. Very hot story to kick it off with. 98 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:15.120 But how do you jump into writing about these stories? Like? Are you 99 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.319 just being god? I sound like a Neanderthal saying this. Are you just 100 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.240 trying to be as descriptive as you can? Because you actually vote wrote it 101 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:26.240 very well, Like it wasn't just like a cool line by line account of 102 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.720 like I went to this party, blew the guy and blah blah blah. 103 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.439 It wasn't like a Brady read to immerse themselves. I feel like they're like 104 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:40.959 they were there. Okay, well I was actually putting myself in a different 105 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.199 role in that position. But uh yeah, I know I could. I 106 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:46.959 could do that. I could see myself at least on my knees once. 107 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:54.480 So uh so, when you, you know, you were younger you were 108 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:58.839 writing, was it always fiction? Were you like taking things in your life 109 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.560 and blowing them up and making them, you know, into full blown stories? 110 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.040 Or what is your favorite kind of thing to write? Like if I 111 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.839 could just put a contract down today and go five book deal whatever Sarah Saint 112 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:15.480 Clair wants to do, what kind of books would you write right now? 113 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.639 I would definitely keep on doing the whole like erotica, because that's been my 114 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:24.120 life the last fifteen years almost. But it's garden all off with Like I 115 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:31.480 love poetry and like short stories, like everyday type things. But yeah, 116 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:37.519 happened in the corn for so long now I feel like all my stories are 117 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.559 just about Dix. Shane too, which is so it's a lot of fun. 118 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.080 All he does is talk about Dix all the time, comm and everything 119 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.600 else. That's why we started the show. Yeah, yeah, I just 120 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:54.679 wanted to talk about Dix and common stuff. Shane. You are a reader, 121 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.039 Shane reads a lot more than me by a long stretch. Yeah. 122 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.799 Yeah, I mean, you know, I listen to books sometimes. That's 123 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.679 the other question. Wait, you can't do that. I can't not even 124 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.840 digital books either, Like you like the paper in hand, like turning the 125 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.480 page. Yeah, I'll say this, nothing's better than the smell of a 126 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:22.559 new book, right, Yeah, yeah, Shane. Yes, what do 127 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.000 you got for an author? Oh well, well yeah, I was just 128 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.799 listening to all this stuff she was saying there about so writing short fiction and 129 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:37.799 poetry and stuff like that. If the book becomes a success, Like, 130 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.120 what what is your next project? Like you know, Matt said, like 131 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.480 contract put out there. If you're going to write another erotica, is it 132 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.679 going to be are you going to dive further down the fiction route? I 133 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.480 mean because you said that, or are you going to continue this as a 134 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.159 series like what have you? What have you got land as far as writing. 135 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.159 Yeah, so actually, at the end of Romance ca Sextra, like, 136 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.360 it's not a cliffhanger because I do tie up like all the Blue sends, 137 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:09.960 but it's definitely open to go on to book number Okay, ideally, 138 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.279 I like how it is a trilogy. Oh okay, yeah, good things 139 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:18.679 come in threes huh yeah, yeah or five, six, seven eighths and 140 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.440 if you like the kind of porn I enjoy with the with the audio, 141 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.360 with the audio that I know that you don't prefer it. But since it's 142 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.679 an erotic book, you're an erotic writer. Are you going to do the 143 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:41.399 voice for the digital or the audio version? Yes? Eventually my co writer 144 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.120 really wanted me to have the the audible done by time we released the book 145 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:50.360 on Amazon. But fun story, I grew up with a really really really 146 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.759 bad stutter. So the idea of like sitting down and like recording my voice 147 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.720 like reading my book just sounds overwhelming, but it is on the to do 148 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.720 list hopefully the next few months. You know what you do. I haven't 149 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:09.000 seen this yet. I would record it and not put it up on Amazon. 150 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.960 Can you put it on like your only fans or something like that as 151 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:18.279 an additional audio messages? Yeah? No, So I actually wanted to do 152 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.320 that, and I ran it by a few people and everyone's like, no, 153 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.799 people are your only fans? Aren't aren't there to listen to you read 154 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:28.000 a book? You know what? Actually? But I had though, yeah, 155 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.799 yeah, you know what? Though, I mean I would say that 156 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.679 about something like a JOI and yet there's millions of dollars being pumped into only 157 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.279 fans every day for JOI videos. It's like, oh, I need to 158 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.519 see the tits or a cock and ball torture. You know, who wants 159 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:46.360 their dick all smashed up? But people pay for it? Yeah, I 160 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.039 don't know. That might be interesting. It's a fun little marketing angle. 161 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.679 So we we've interviewed a lot of girls nowadays, and it seems like the 162 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:00.840 biggest thing is marketing. And you've done a great job of marking yourself. 163 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.159 But when did you really pick up steam? Was there a specific scene you 164 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.879 did or something like that when you notice like jumps and followers or was it 165 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.480 just constant grinding? Was it a slow you know? Ten ten, ten, 166 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.159 ten, ten new followers, fifteen new follower Okay, yeah, now 167 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.600 it's been us slow build up. But yeah, like every time I released 168 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.919 a new mainstream scene, there's more. But like I said, I don't 169 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.679 live in La so I really only shoot big scenes like once or twice a 170 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.000 year. Really, Oh, that's you know, because that's why that's why 171 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.440 I've been in the industry since twenty sixteen. But like my credit lis is 172 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.240 about that bear. Oh yeah, I did notice that. But you have 173 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.200 tons of content out there, so we'll jump back in the book stuff for 174 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.519 a second. I gotta like, you know, keep the fans turned on 175 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:54.600 somewhat, So do you mostly shoot OnlyFans content? Then? Okay, all 176 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.360 right, and what sets your only fans apart? Well, it has Sarah 177 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:03.000 Saint Claire obviously, but how often are you updating what kind of stuff is 178 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.519 actually on there? And by the way, if you folks want to check 179 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:11.840 out her only fans, don't forget it's Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Yes, 180 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:18.360 So mine is like I know, a lot of girls like they're really fancy 181 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.639 lighting, like really fancy videos. Mine is am it like like a lot 182 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.759 of pro am like stuff that I shoot at home on my phone, like 183 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.600 you know, having fun in real life. So my only fans is real 184 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:35.399 life Sarah that see. I prefer that. I I told you. When 185 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.879 I'm watching porn, I like it has to be like am like the pro 186 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.200 am, like like a husband and wife clearly shot this in their bedroom just 187 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:45.480 being kinky one night. Like That's why I need to get off because otherwise 188 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:46.960 I'm like, hey, know that dick, I know that couch, I 189 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:54.360 have those panties. We interviewed Catherine Knight the other day and she was awesome 190 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.360 interviewed to talk to And what was fun about her though, is she's the 191 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.879 total opposite. It seems like she's all like hyper auction. It's like, 192 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.720 if we don't have a ten thousand dollars lighting rig, I ain't taking my 193 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.600 top off, which is great. People love that and it's obviously successful. 194 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:13.799 Me I need to hear like unlicensed Metallica in the background at a glory hole. 195 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.759 Terrible lighting. You know that's just what I like personally. Yeah, 196 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.159 it's real. I like that, and that's what's great. There's a world, 197 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.840 you know, for anybody, any kind of fetish, any kind of 198 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:28.279 whatever, and bornt. There's always something you know, all right, So 199 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.120 can you tell us what let's compare and contrast do you have in this book? 200 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.720 Because again I haven't gotten a chance to finish it. I will check 201 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.919 it out. Make sure you check out as well. Romance Cross Extra available 202 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:45.279 on Amazon. Now, do you tell like your wildest real life sex story 203 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.720 in there? Or is that saving it for the trilogy? Okay? What 204 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:58.639 was that and what happened? Let's all right? Okay, I see you're 205 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.120 reluctant. Here's the thing, maybe not your wildest one. How about you 206 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:07.159 tell us your third wildest one. Here's the thing. Everyone's going to buy 207 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.679 your book. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not gonna be the wildest one, 208 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:15.960 but probably most like so like as far as like wildest sex scene, 209 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.240 no that's not in there, but like the wildest scenario of said sex scene 210 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:26.120 is my favorite. I met this guy a while ago and we started hooking 211 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.320 up whatever, and this would be I don't know. I was smell over 212 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.279 in the morning when his wife went to work, and then one day he'd 213 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.840 be like, so, I won't have a threesome, but you can't tell 214 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.840 her that I hired you. I can ask for it to say that we 215 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.000 met on like golfriends find we're looking for like a threesome. I'm like, 216 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:48.039 okay, just whatever. So have three sims with him and his wife and 217 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.080 don't hear from him for a while. Turns out he went to prison for 218 00:15:52.320 --> 00:16:00.320 some white collar shit like so never saw them. She actually divorces out while 219 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.080 he was in jail. I thought it was going to take a twist. 220 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.720 I thought you were going to still show up the next day after he went 221 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.840 to prison and you go to the wife. You're like, let's go at 222 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.519 it. Come on, I'll keep you good. You're my boo for the 223 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:19.720 next five years. So fast forward about eight years later. I started hooking 224 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.480 up with this dude and I meet him. I meet him through a mutual 225 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.559 friend. So mutual friend and I are talking and like, yeah, like 226 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:34.480 Brett's wife he talks about all the time, and our mutual friend starts telling 227 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:37.000 me about her. I'm like, wait, wait, was she married to 228 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.639 so and so and used to live in ex City? And he's like, 229 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:45.919 yes, this woman who I had three soons with with her husband is now 230 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:52.759 married to another client, but he hasn't asked to set up a threesome yet, 231 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:56.279 has he? Oh? I always said your I'm like, like, 232 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.960 he should bring your life over someday she would like it, and he doesn't. 233 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.799 Does it not that that she's been wild? He's like, I don't. 234 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:04.839 I don't know if she'd be into that. She's she's kind of shy 235 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.480 and on the reserve side. I'm thinking, sir, that's true wife and 236 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.240 the ass of the strap on. So I can't tell him that though, 237 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.200 well you could, but I mean you certainly could. Yeah, it would 238 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:22.480 be too weird for him to know that. All right, look at you 239 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.599 keeping secrets? Wow? Yeah, yeah you do. All right. I 240 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.119 would have wrote an anonymous letter. I always wrote a book about it. 241 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.240 Here's my question, and this is not meant to criticize whatsoever. I'm just 242 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.160 asking from a level of stupidity and ignorance. All right, is there a 243 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:47.279 companion escort code in terms of privacy? And does your book? I don't 244 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:52.240 think it does, but maybe does your book kind of break that code a 245 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.400 little bit? No? Because and that's why I had to stop calling it 246 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.000 an autoiography because so much was changed in it to protect names and everything. 247 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.160 That sure, So is that the code? Then? Is it like, 248 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:11.799 hey, you're paying partially for your time and then partially for I'm not gonna 249 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.319 say nothing for me to shut the fuck up. Yeah, So what do 250 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.160 you think of girls who do come out and say stuff? I know I've 251 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.279 read you're big sports fan. I don't know if I know you. You 252 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:23.720 like the Saints? Right, this was an old interview I read. Okay, 253 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:30.279 so same town. How do you feel about Zion Williamson and the OnlyFans 254 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:36.640 performer he was with coming out and spilling the beans on everything that shick lost 255 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:41.200 her damn mind. Like all of us were like scrolling through three base What 256 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:47.200 is this girl doing? Like she's breaking every code? Like, yeah, 257 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.880 not a good book. So there is a well, and I don't mean 258 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.079 this in a derogatory way like a bro code. There's like a hoe code 259 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.680 too, right, yeah, oh for sure? All right, that's fun 260 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:03.599 without naming any name, are divulging anything? Do you have like a do 261 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.119 you have like a client list like an A TI or B TRE Do you 262 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.160 have like certain clients? I mean, obviously you're going to prioritize because of 263 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.880 their spending habits or whatever. But do you have any that are like VIPs? 264 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:22.039 You know, maybe like a handful that are like my favorites, like 265 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.039 I would consider like real life friends and and do any of them, you 266 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.359 know, like we were just talking about this that woman. What's that guy's 267 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.680 name, Zion Zion Williamson, Yeah, Williamson. Do you have any that 268 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:40.200 are like, you know, draft picks or yeah, round of the NFL 269 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:47.680 draft? Are your guys coming from generally the last she gets a lot of 270 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:52.160 kickers and punters swinging by now. To be honest, though, and again 271 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.039 you don't have to divulge names. We've gotten some fun names off. I'm 272 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.559 sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Oh no, like on that topic 273 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.599 though, like like I don't think you want like those like super super big 274 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.000 name type people though, just because it seems so stressful, like they could 275 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.319 have like their pick of whatever. So you have to perform like extra extra 276 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.640 extra good, Like I don't know, I don't know how to just take 277 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.240 Bob from hr who's just excited to hang out with me. You know what, 278 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.880 though I've seen you you're a hell of a performer, and I think 279 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.759 if you want to go up that next level. I think you can do 280 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.079 it. I think you can grab at least the second round pick in the 281 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:33.839 NBA draft, maybe a lottery guy down the line, for sure. That's 282 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:40.640 a pretty big compliment. Now the question is going back to the porn side 283 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:45.319 real quick. How do I say this nicely? Are you a size queen? 284 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.839 Could you take some of these lottery picks? Okay? Okay, oh 285 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:53.599 yeah, what do you think the biggest guy you've ever been with is size 286 00:20:53.640 --> 00:21:02.559 wise? Dread? Oh? Okay everyone? I mean yeah, gets bigger 287 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.680 than that. Yeah, yeah, you put Dread into Twitter. Now. 288 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:08.920 I always wonder, though, is that a burden being a gentleman like that, 289 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:15.519 you know, with a kickstand dick. I don't know, it's not, 290 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.519 No, I don't think so. I mean it's like, like, 291 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.359 what girl's going to break up with a guy because his dick's too big? 292 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.079 You know, like she's not going to be able to live that down because 293 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.839 there's going to be one friend in the friend group who's definitely got a husband 294 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.160 whose dick doesn't even work, you know, and it's like, you know, 295 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.279 you've been talking to my wife Okay, yeah you know, yeah, 296 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.880 yeah, yeah, she she could never live it down. You know she 297 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.960 sent dread packet. You know she could find another reason blame it on that, 298 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:52.000 But no one would admit to not wanting to have a eighteen inch Oh 299 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:56.400 oh okay, I disagree, thank you, I do too, right, 300 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:02.000 Sarah? Tell him why we agree on this one? So yeah, like 301 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.640 I'm a side sweened and like for just like fucking around for like a night 302 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.680 or two. Yeah, please like restroy me. But if we're dating, 303 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:14.240 I donot want that every night. Like boyfriend Dick is like seven eight inches, 304 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.200 like big solid, But do you think over that one is like big 305 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.119 big, You don't want that every night? At that point you're gonna be 306 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.359 torn, it's gonna hurt. Well, he doesn't have to put the whole 307 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:26.960 thing in, does he? Like? What if it's like a thirteen? 308 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:32.039 But goes to me where I say, is that a burden for him? 309 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:36.480 Because I mean, you're not going down to the hilt every time? You 310 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:38.319 don't need to. I mean when you jack off to you, do you 311 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:45.119 do you use the whole into my pubis? Yeah? Really yeah that sounds 312 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.839 thankful. I just concentrate on the tip man. I just kind of like 313 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:53.599 squeeze it and need it like a roll of pizza. Though I like squeezing 314 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:57.160 it real hard until it turns purple and then I flick it, yeah, 315 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:02.920 till it explodes like a volcano. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But 316 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:06.200 I agree, I agree with Sarah kind of. I don't know, like 317 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.119 we all would want a chick who's like, you know, a real nympho 318 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:11.119 and like, oh I want to fuck all the time, blah blah blah. 319 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.039 But for a girlfriend sometimes it's like, oh, we got to do 320 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.559 dinner with my mother and she's like, well, just let me blow you 321 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:21.039 four times before we go there. I feel the same way if I was 322 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.640 a chick. Yeah, it would be great to have a guy who just 323 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:27.680 you know, sends you to the frozen food aisle to tape something to yourself. 324 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.960 But at the end of the day, like, do I want that 325 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:37.000 all the time? Especially with a guy with a dick that big, you 326 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:41.200 have to have a killer sex drive, so he's gonna want it all the 327 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.119 time. And then you're beat up all the time and you're doing that cool 328 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:45.920 thing they do in porn where you put it up against your forearm and you're 329 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:53.480 like, yeah, you get battered. Wives syndrome yeah, back to the 330 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.920 book real quick. How did you the book? Of course, obviously Romance 331 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:03.240 Costs Extra available now on Amazon by missing Sarah Saint Claire. How did you 332 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:10.440 sort through and determine which ones to put in this what to save for the 333 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.880 next one? You know, like, if you have twenty stories in this, 334 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.000 how many of those are a pluses? And how many did you throw 335 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.400 in a couple c pluses with like fun entertaining stuff, and then what are 336 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.960 you gonna carry over? Because me, I always think of musical artists when 337 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.519 their first big, first hit album has all the hits on it, and 338 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.640 you're like, oh, they've been saving that all their life for that, 339 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.599 and then the second album stinks because they're writing about being on private jets. 340 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:42.079 So how do you how do you reconcile that in terms of what to put 341 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:48.680 and what not to put? So Book one honestly mainly a while hooking and 342 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.960 I have it set up so at the end of Romances strap im sorry, 343 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:59.400 my dog's getting into god knows what. So the end is set up where 344 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.319 I'm packing up and going to LA to start doing porn. So then books 345 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.480 she was mainly going to be about porn, and like hooking some things that 346 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.839 I met through doing porn and yeah, all right, so you have your 347 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:15.640 arc already designed now, but then what's book three? Is that written? 348 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.720 Is that like Godfather three? Do you read that forty years from now when 349 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.519 you retire? Yes? Actually I wanted to book book number three to took 350 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:27.200 to be about retirement. Wow. Now right, that's interesting. So how 351 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:33.240 far are you from retirement? Please don't say anywhere near soon? No? 352 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:38.480 No, actually, I actually it took eight month hiatus this year because I 353 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:47.720 was trying to do the whole trophy girlfriend thing and what's u U? But 354 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.240 that? Okay, so what was the trophy girlfriend? Now? Did you 355 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:55.480 have to did you take a hiatus from everything or just shooting porn? Wow? 356 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.720 So did that? Did you intend on that only being eight months a 357 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:06.720 year or did it fizzle out? Unfortunately? M boys lie, yeah, 358 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:14.279 we do do that, cheater, Yeah, yes, oh I know. 359 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.519 It's just like one of those universal laws like gravity. M yeah. But 360 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:25.079 uh, the the thing about changing, you know, like your whole lifestyle, 361 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.759 like you're shooting on your own, you're doing scenes, and then to 362 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.920 change it all for a person, like what was that like were you were 363 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.400 you working in McDonald's or like, what what did you do for those eight 364 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:47.440 months? So I was doing just OnlyFans, like all the solo stuff and 365 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:52.799 everything. So he wasn't like a complete square. I met him via work, 366 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:57.240 so he was kind of taking care of me, got it? God? 367 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.319 Okay, I see, I was thinking more along the lines. It 368 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.680 was one of these We talked to several people who have you know, told 369 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.720 us that they they've tried to give it up for a relationship all porn and 370 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.240 it's like some sort of morality thing, you know, and it's like it 371 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.119 never works. It's like if you're changing your yourself for your partner right at 372 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.359 the beginning. Oh, like I have to go bored too, because like 373 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:27.480 this since I was eighteen years old in some way, shape or form, 374 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.680 So like, I don't know, trying to give it up, it's like 375 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.319 I was giving up like a whole part of who I am as a person 376 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.680 at this point. Yeah, definitely. So was it for love or was 377 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:44.759 it just that you would be taken care of? Both? Okay, Okay, 378 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.160 how many zeros do I need in my bank account to wife up? 379 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.279 Sarah Saint Clair. I guess it's more also a balancing act. Of how 380 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.119 many inches I would need in my pants, and I don't qualify with that, 381 00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.640 So how many more? Seven? Eight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 382 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.799 I told you I don't qualify in that. So where are we getting 383 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:07.119 up to? What is a lifestyle where you are comfortable stepping away from porn? 384 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.160 Is this just a job for you I have Obviously you said you were 385 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.839 bored, But we've talked to a lot of pros, and we talked to 386 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.759 a lot of new girls. We do a whole Jesus Christ that shot. 387 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.519 My goodness. We talked to a lot of new girls who are like gung 388 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.359 ho, like, oh my god, I just want this, I want 389 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:26.839 to dick, I want money, blah blah blah bah. And then we 390 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.400 talked to girls who've been in the industry for a long time who seem like 391 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.400 maybe they've had their fill of dick and they're just like, hey man, 392 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:38.480 whatever takes me in the next level. Let me ask you, what does 393 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:44.200 it take to come for someone to come into your life and sweep you off 394 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.400 the feet to the point where you're like, I don't really want to do 395 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.680 porn anymore. Does it have to be good looking guy, money and a 396 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:59.119 good enough sex drive where you're not like craving it elsewhere. That's actually a 397 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:00.640 question I can ask myself lately, because you know, coming out of the 398 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.720 relationship, it's like, okay, so what do I really really want? 399 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.920 So honestly, I don't think there's anybody except for one person who can get 400 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.039 me to stop doing this at this point. Really, who's that? Do 401 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:19.680 we know that Leon Williamson is the main character in my book? Oh? 402 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.960 Okay, okay, aren't you the main character in your book? Like I 403 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.480 said, I only saw the the main my main love interest. Okay, 404 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.920 fair enough, fair enough, And Brian the aerahalls for it because she's the 405 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.279 dumbass. Now, okay, but you you recognize that maybe it's not a 406 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.000 good situation for you. But then why why does it draw you back in? 407 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:47.440 Is that just what love is? Yeah? I said, probably something 408 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.640 that you want so bad but you can't have it? Okay, all right, 409 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.599 now, going back to what we were joking about before, how I 410 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.359 want to start asking all of the girls this, Shane, because I find 411 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.640 it so interesting how many athletes are currently in your d MS any at all? 412 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:11.880 Do you think mmmm, at the moment, there's a rock star and 413 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.759 a DJ in my ideas. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I 414 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.000 always pick athletes because it generally represents the kind of porn I like, so, 415 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:26.240 uh no, the athlete thing, it goes through through cycles. Really, 416 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:33.359 what are the cycles on that? A lot of it is like I'd 417 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.359 be an extra cleat chaser. I'll be like, ah, Saints, that's 418 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:48.319 fucking whoever, right, But like I'll like all of them and then eventually 419 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.079 one is going to see it and slide of the dems. Okay, that's 420 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.440 fair enough. Do you have any other ambitions for any other types of books 421 00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.240 in the future, Like, do you ever want to write I don't know, 422 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:06.359 a sci fi or a mystery or whatever. No, that shit's boring, 423 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.359 right, doesn't that shit kind of seem boring? Like you're writing a 424 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.359 story this guy got I just want to be like this guy got stabbed. 425 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.799 A bunch of people questioned it. Then it was the butler and you're like, 426 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.400 there you go. One page is my book right there? And the 427 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.160 butler killed them. No, So I definitely see myself always writing some form 428 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:27.839 of erotica. But one project that I've had in my brain for a very 429 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:33.319 very long time is and I need to take like a good creative writing course 430 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.720 to be able to do this. But I want to write a book about 431 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.400 all the pets that live in a whorehouse like Madam runs the player. A 432 00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.039 bunch of cross tubes that live there, and they all have like their little 433 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:48.319 animals. There's Pierre, the parrot pimp. He yells at everybody Greek clocks 434 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:55.400 like a children's book exactly, but like a slutty children's book, who just 435 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.839 gives like really aggressive side eye to every John that walks through the door. 436 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.759 And then all the little rat friends who talk shit like, oh there's that 437 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.240 guy who wants to side up a weirdo. Oh my god, can I 438 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.839 tell you how much I couldn't keep my dick hard If I walked in and 439 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:13.000 there was a cat and a parrot and a bunch of rats and rat room, 440 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.400 I'd be like, yo, this chick needs to do some kind of 441 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.880 tongue swirl because my dick ain't gonna work with this zoo looking at me. 442 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:27.160 Okay, we go to my car. Actually, it would be funny if 443 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.160 she went completely nuts though. If we were talking about, like, do 444 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.160 you have any other ambitions? And Sarah was like, well, okay, 445 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.599 you guys know scientology, right, like yeah, and she's like twenty eight 446 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.720 book ida I have here, and it's about a different kind of alien creature, 447 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.359 Like oh boy, okay, go on, go on, dianetics. 448 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.279 We got trianetics. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's sitting 449 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.000 here and she's too hot for us to be like, oh this sounds crazy. 450 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.319 Just so you know, it's funny you said that there is a market 451 00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.880 I feel like for adult children's books. You had that same Jackson one a 452 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.359 few years ago, Go the fuck to Sleep. My friend Vicky actually wrote 453 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.559 a Yeah. Yeah, my friend Vicky wrote a book called B is for 454 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:15.680 Blunkin And it's an ab season. It's good, right, it's a funny 455 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.440 idea, it's a it's a picture book, but it's all it's all just 456 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.279 you know, you know what N was for necrophilia and uh oh yeah that 457 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.440 one was funny. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they were all good. 458 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.720 So has this always been your personality? Like you're all in on erotica 459 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:38.680 now, and you said you were shy grown up, but what was your 460 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:44.319 sexual one eighty in life? Where was it you were shy girl? And 461 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:50.079 then and did that factor into your I don't want to say sexual revolution, 462 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.920 because that sounds like I'm to Awakening for six Awakening is yeah, that sounds 463 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.480 corny too, but I agree with you. Was there something where you went 464 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.920 from like me, what was the movie She's All that? Where you went 465 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.240 from kind of like, you know, nerdy, shy girl and then you 466 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:07.160 turn around and it's like, wow, Sarah's fucking sexy and when should take 467 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:15.440 your glasses off? No, So I guess my thing was once I realized 468 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.440 that sex would be lucrative, make money, get myself places, I was 469 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.239 like, Okay, we can probably do this. And even like when I 470 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.480 first started like stripping and stuff, I was still kind of shy girl. 471 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.039 But then eventually I don't know, I wish I had the I wish I 472 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.079 can give you a story of some monumental moment, but at some point I 473 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.159 just like fucking stopped hearing. Well, it's like social media. It was 474 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.199 gradual for you then, huh it was just yeah? And and was there 475 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:44.159 anxiety at each new plateau at all? Or were you just like, well, 476 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:50.079 I've come this far, keep climbing. Yeah, Like because it's like 477 00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.719 it was like baby step, babystap, baby steps, So it was never 478 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.639 like just like well, I'm scareduble because it's like, okay, like like 479 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.519 I started doing nude modeling, then I was doing tied up modeling, then 480 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.800 I was doing tied up on video, so like it's only just like a 481 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.239 little bit different each time. Yeah, but then you go from Yeah, 482 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.119 if you look at a timeline and shorter increments, yes, it seems like 483 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.760 that. But if I were to look at the timeline of you on a 484 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.679 larger increment, it would go she did nude modeling, and then jump ahead 485 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:25.320 seven guy gangbang for here. What's the uh, what's the most anxiety you 486 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.039 ever had going into a scene? Let me ask? That was something like, 487 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.679 let me tell you that was ten dudes. He let me tell you. 488 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.639 I have a wife. She's gorgeous. I get laid. It's no 489 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:45.679 problem. But I am somewhat of a pornography connoisseur. Texas Bukkaki is the 490 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.400 site that we got probably our best friend off of this show. She's an 491 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.639 only fans performer. She doesn't want to go mainstream, but she shot four 492 00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:01.199 scenes of Texas Bukkaki kat Karma or gasmic love her to death. Those, 493 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:06.440 to me are actually prime example of what I was talking about before where you 494 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.480 have like family guy playing in the background and you're like, oh, I 495 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:15.079 don't think Fox licensed that out to these guys, so it feels more real 496 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.400 and that Yeah. No, And that was the most low end thing ever 497 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.960 too, Like I flew into Dallas and there's ten dudes in one hotel room. 498 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.079 It was a high at players. Yeah, yeah, and they don't 499 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:35.400 exactly bust out the suits for you. It looked like and let me tell 500 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.199 you where there's ten people in a small hotel room and you look at it 501 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.760 like, oh wow, I was pack. You're like, whoa, I'm 502 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:45.159 going to fuck all of these people? Oh my god. That that was 503 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.280 an anxious moment. That was a oh when I get myself into I think 504 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.119 I've bit off more than I could chew. I'm totally fucking intended. But 505 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.800 no, you did it though, I mean you came out the other end, 506 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.840 So does that give you confidence then? Like I'll see. I was 507 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:06.760 gonna say I would think the more intimidating scene and this is totally positive stereotypes, 508 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.400 but you shot with the unfortunately named dogfart dot Com and that scene looked 509 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.199 intense to me because yeah, your Texas bukank was more guys, I believe, 510 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:22.159 but I mean size comparison between the two. Yeah. Yeah. There 511 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.199 was one where it felt like I was like, Oh, she's really having 512 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.280 a good time in this gang bang. And there was one where I was 513 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.719 like, oh, she's sitting on frozen peas on the way home. Oh 514 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.000 yes, yeah, like halfway the halfway to that scene, I'm like, 515 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.920 how the fuck am I going to keep doing this? I am hurting my 516 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.280 buttle, cannot take any more big black jack of side and I'm gonna cry. 517 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.880 But she was only half done, and I don't know. I like 518 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.079 to say I can do anything for an hour, likes crazy shit. Ever 519 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.280 it's only an hour, I can do it. So that's kind of like 520 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.400 the metality is Okay, we're aready halfway done. You can do it. 521 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.199 That text like oh go ahead. Sorry. It's like getting on a roller 522 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.719 coaster, right, like you know, you're all amped up and then like 523 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.920 you're once you're strapped in, Like the anxiety can build and build, yeah, 524 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.920 Like it can build up as much as you want it, like let 525 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.760 it go as high as it can possibly go while you're going up that hill, 526 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.239 you know, but you can't get off and like you're just along for 527 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.239 the ride, you know, you kind of just don't have a choice but 528 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.719 to get through it, right exactly. Yeah, it's like it's like we've 529 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.760 been on set all day, like we've got to push here at the end 530 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.599 of the scene and we get to go home. So that'd be funny the 531 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.880 idea of you rallying cry the team, like guys are dehydrated, they're tired, 532 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.239 the dicks are a little limp, Like, gentlemen, we need a 533 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:45.039 real any given Sunday speech. We need to get these dicks up. We 534 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.960 need to finish this scene. The lighting is set. We will get in 535 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.719 history. Oh man, I loved Texas Bukocky, and then they got like 536 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.639 sold to like a foreign thing. And it went from like kind of no 537 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.280 name or names you would know sometimes that Sarah Saint Clair would pop up on 538 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:09.599 their Trinity Saint Clair. They only got Saint Clair's apparently great family line and 539 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:15.280 uh. And then it went from that to like they got bought out I 540 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.599 think by like an overseas company. So it was like Olga and Helga get 541 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.760 gangbanged, and you're like, oh, that's it's not the same. It's 542 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:30.719 not that dingy little Texas Hotel room exactly. Uh yeah, I like to 543 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.320 see more of that in porn now that you just mentioned that the Saint Clair's 544 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:42.320 like, I I'd like to see more team ups like with the similarly names. 545 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.280 Yeah oh yeah, like no, Like you know how drag queens have 546 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.320 like houses like that, the House of the Donda or whatever, and it's 547 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.360 like all the queens from that line that that house will have the same last 548 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:59.079 name. Yeah, we should do that with porn. Y good idea. 549 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.840 I think you're on some they've had. I mean they've had how many different 550 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.800 TV shows. I think ex Hamster had one for a while where it was 551 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.000 like a reality show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tried to 552 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.280 do one. It was yeah. Yeah. You know what though, there's 553 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.400 potential for me to like that, and I just they never nail it for 554 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.519 me for some reason. You know who does it right is the Europeans. 555 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.880 The Europeans shoot that shit properly. I don't understand most of the stuff they're 556 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.239 saying because they don't usually upload subtitles, but yeah, the European and the 557 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:37.119 European like porn game shows rule where it's like they'll have like some dude and 558 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.880 he'll like have like four naked women in front of them, and then he'll 559 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:44.679 like rate their naked bodies, but they're always really respectful in Europe how they 560 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.599 do it, and he'll like pick the one based on her nude appearance that 561 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.719 he wants to date, and then he has to get naked and then she'll 562 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.320 be like, well you know what I would dick. Yeah, yeah, 563 00:40:54.360 --> 00:41:00.079 sometimes it happens, you know, it rules, Yeah, that's love it, 564 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:06.800 that's interesting. I don't know, I like I like we talked about 565 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.039 a few times already. I like that. Not dingy, not degrading, 566 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:16.239 but just kind of like, you know, this guy bought the most expensive 567 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.079 equipment he could afford and is now shooting it kind of like half cocked in 568 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.599 a hotel room. I just love that. That is good stuff. That 569 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.679 is good. I'll tell you I got my porn man. Yeah. Oh 570 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.000 yeah, your your wife. Oh I thought you were plugging your wife for 571 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.599 a second there. Well, I mean I can, but I'm saying, 572 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.800 like, I mean, that's what you like. That's what my shit looks 573 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:42.519 like. It's bad, Okay, I don't know mine too. I feel 574 00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:46.440 that, but you know what your fans are all about it And let me 575 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.440 ask you only shoot like two major scenes a year, you say, or 576 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.559 with major companies. We've talked to a lot of professional girls who it seems 577 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:59.519 like that's not not the amount of time. But that's the thing you're seen 578 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.280 at, Brad. You're seeing a team skeet whatever it is. That's an 579 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.239 advertisement for your only fans. Is that how you treat that? Yeah, 580 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:14.079 because every time that they promote that on Twitter, Instagram, whatever, don't 581 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:15.960 have my little handle and then the fans are going to see my handle click 582 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.679 on it and then boom, that's what the follower for Sarah. That's another 583 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.000 only fan subscription. Yeah, there you go. We play a little game 584 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.039 on this show, and I want to run it by you here. It's 585 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:35.079 called Sack And this originally started when we interviewed Sarah j and Sarah Jay has 586 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.360 been offered tens of thousands of dollars for her first anal scene and she just 587 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.800 won't do it. There's just not what she's into. She doesn't like it, 588 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:44.800 she doesn't like the idea of it. I don't know if she doesn't 589 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.840 like her brand being represented that way or if she just doesn't like it in 590 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.159 general. So we play a game called sack and what that stands for is 591 00:42:52.480 --> 00:43:00.599 shit, animals and kids sak because we got the idea to start asking is 592 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:07.239 there anything And then the inverse of this question as well, is there anything 593 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.599 that you wantn't do on camera regardless of the amount of money that has been 594 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.719 put forth? And then the opposite is is there any type of genre or 595 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.880 scene or anything like that, or a performer you want to work with where 596 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.760 your normal rate is here and you're willing to take a little bit of a 597 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.320 discount because you just love doing this type of thing so much. So the 598 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.000 reason we call it tac is is because don't say shit, animal or kids. 599 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.199 A lot of the first girls we would interview, I would go, 600 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.719 so what you know, what is something you wouldn't do? And they're like, 601 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.559 well, I wouldn't like fuck a kid. And we'd be like, 602 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.960 yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, you know, yeah, you 603 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.400 got to get off the zoom if you would, you know, be like, 604 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:51.880 well'd fuck a kid for ten grand? So what is something You're just 605 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.440 absolutely like, that's not my type of thing either. I don't want my 606 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.039 brand represented that way. I don't want to do that where even if they 607 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.639 hit you with a high end dollar amount, you're still just kind of like, 608 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.679 nah, not my thing. Wow, I grew up really fucking poor. 609 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.559 So anything that can be bought for the right price. Oh boy, 610 00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.360 that sounds like an endorsement for shit animals and kids. No, no, 611 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.599 no, no, now I need to tap my four oh one k though 612 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:23.239 for a loan. There's no price too high, all right? And then 613 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:28.599 what is the opposite? So is there any type of scene, any genre 614 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:35.480 of seeing a cocky, a gang bang, a solo with one specific performer? 615 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.599 What is something where? Where? Where is the number set for you 616 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.360 in your normal rates? And they go, we only have enough production budget 617 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.440 for this here, and you'd still be like, yeah, I'll do that. 618 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:53.159 I like that kind of thing. Good question. I have yet to 619 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.880 shoot for kink so or like any any type of site like that. So 620 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.840 yeah, I would shoot for next to nothing if I'm going to be like 621 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.000 tied up, put the shit beat out of you, not not next to 622 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.840 nothing kink. Just so you know, you still have to pay this girl. 623 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:16.960 Okay, she is a performer. She'll take a discount for you that. 624 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.559 Yeah. Yeah, here's a kink shirt for you and some soap. 625 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:28.639 They have really weird merch here's a stuffed animal. What. Yeah, yeah, 626 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:34.559 here's a gift card to Cracker Barrel. Yeah. Uh okay, all 627 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.639 right, that's interesting. So what do we have on the horizon. Have 628 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:44.960 you set any goals for yourself porn wise and then also writing wise, Well, 629 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.760 let's do porn first. Have you set any goals for yourself where you're 630 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:50.119 like, I want to shoot this type of scene or is there anything you 631 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.400 haven't done yet besides kink dot com or or any of those. Is there 632 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.960 anything you haven't done yet? Or have you set a future date for a 633 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.119 kink or a bondage scene or something like that where you go, I need 634 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:07.559 this by then, because that's my next goal that I'm working towards. Unfortunately, 635 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.519 I'm a lazy human. I am not. You're not lazy. You 636 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.239 can pretend to be lazy. You wrote a book like you're You're better than 637 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.880 ninety eight percent of Americans. Honestly, Like, my main goal is just 638 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.800 to get back in the swing of like porn again and like start shooting more 639 00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.880 regularly, and I don't know, maybe take my only fans a little bit 640 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.519 more seriously and just I don't know, like get back to being an active 641 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.000 performer, because honestly, I've been out of it for a hot minute. 642 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:42.079 So just I'm actually going to Veguas next month for or just a month rather 643 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.599 or three scenes, and I'm gonna try to shoot some professional level content while 644 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:52.039 I'm out there, and you know, just get the ball moving, get 645 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.519 back to being like a porn stargon. There you go, that's the one, 646 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.360 that's what you are, Shane. Do you want to hit Sarah with 647 00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.159 your question that you Oh yeah, we hadn't even touched on that and it 648 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.000 didn't come up. Yeah, like, how do you feel about piss? 649 00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:10.400 Oh? I love Golden Showers? Hey, good answer. Yes's a big 650 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.639 fan. All right, Shane. Do you have any other questions? I'm 651 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:17.480 sorry I dominated most of this. Oh no, I like to I got 652 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:22.480 to ask a lot of good book questions. Who's your favorite author? Oh? 653 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:29.559 Ernest bay By? Finally? And I love that? Yeah. Yeah, 654 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.880 I've only read Farewell to Arms and I didn't understand a lot of the 655 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:39.159 words. That's sir, ladies and gentlemen, we had on with us today. 656 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.840 Sarah Saint Clair. Make sure you go to her Twitter and her only 657 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:49.079 fans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Remember links to everything is going to be 658 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.239 in the episode description, and go pay for it. We always advocate pay 659 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:58.239 for your born. These are performers, they're workers, you know, do 660 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.719 it. Don't be a dick. Maybe even swing by the Amazon wish list 661 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:06.199 because you're gonna be on Amazon when you're purchasing her new book, Romance Costs 662 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:10.440 Extra by Sarah Saint Clair. Uh. You know, it was wonderful talking 663 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.079 to you today. Really loved having you, Sarah. Is there anything else? 664 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:22.199 Shane? No, I'm glad that she answered, like an a notable 665 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:28.440 author, but like, who's your favorite lesser known author, Who's somebody weird 666 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:36.280 you like that? Nobody would know you like to read? Don't say Sylvia 667 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.920 Plath. But that was literally the first and that popped in my head. 668 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.679 I'm sorry. I was like, don't say it, don't say it, 669 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.760 don't say it. All right, all right, I know everything I need 670 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:52.800 to know. That sounds that sounded judgmental. Sarah, You've been wonderful to 671 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.440 talk today. Thank you very much for coming on with us. Thank you 672 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.960 so much for your worst friend going deeper. I met, I'm Shae. 673 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:21.840 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Yeah,