1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:08,759 You're watching Your Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. Today's guest adult film star 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:15,839 Sarah Saint Clair. Here's your host, Matt and Shane. You're watching Your 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. I'm Matt and I'm joined by my lovely 4 00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:23,879 co host Shane. Hello. Go to your Worst Friend dot com to see 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,760 all of our other interviews and follow us on social media at Worst Friendcast. 6 00:00:27,879 --> 00:00:31,640 Today, Ladies and gentlemen, we're joined by a very special guest. You 7 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:36,280 might know her from such cinematic masterpieces as I Came Inside My Sister five and 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,200 Wife's Desperate for Dick six. She's an AVN nominee, and as we'll talk 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,000 about coming up, she's now a published author. You can find her on 10 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:51,920 Twitter and OnlyFans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx and on Instagram at Silly Sarah ninety 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,840 one. Links to everything are going to be in the episode description as always, 12 00:00:56,159 --> 00:01:00,159 and her new book Romance Costs Extra is available now on Amazon, so 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,359 make sure you go out and pick it up. Ladies and gentlemen, join 14 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:07,879 us in welcoming the stunning, the eloquent, the perfectly crafted Sarah Saint Clair. 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,200 Hello, Sarah, thank you very much for coming on with us today, 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,000 so keep having me on like talking to authors. So it's a real 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,040 weird balancing act because we have like this gorgeous ten sitting in front of us 18 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:23,840 that does all kinds of sexy, dirty things that I'm sure people want to 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,239 hear about, and all I want to know about is like, oh, 20 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:30,879 the book writing process. Let's talk about this. So don't be surprised if 21 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,760 it seems like we're inter cutting questions for the fans with questions for us here, 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,040 I'm all about it. Cool. If we could start, could you 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,280 tell us how you initially got into the adult entertainment industry. I started modeling 24 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:52,680 and stripping, and from there I did British videos and stuff, and at 25 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,359 that point I was already maked on the internet, so I said fuck it 26 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:57,920 it and went all the way it did born. There you go, that 27 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,640 makes sense? Did you have the next now? Because I've heard that before 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,560 snowball effect and whatever, and even before prior to only Fans, Because now 29 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,560 the headlines that come out of only Fans, it's like people are thinking, 30 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,879 sadly, some of these newer girls like oh, I'll be on only Fans 31 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,000 for like six weeks and I'll be making one hundred grand a month and blah 32 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 blah blah, blah blah blah blah. What was the promise at the time. 33 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:28,120 Was it just a little bit incrementally more money every time when you would 34 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:32,400 snowball like you said, was it just another step into fame? Like did 35 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:36,280 you think, well, if I do porn, it'll help my stripping career, 36 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:38,879 or if I do this, it'll help this, Okay, go yeah, 37 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,919 No, Well it's funny because my goal in life is to be a 38 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,639 famous writer. So I wanted to get into like the sex business to have 39 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:53,199 all these cool stories tell the world. So I did porn. So I 40 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:54,759 wanted Sarah say Claire to be a known name. So that way, when 41 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,800 I turn into the famous writer that I'm about to beat, I already have 42 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 a name to myself. That is the best way to do it. Establish 43 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:06,840 a fan base first, and then you can go. It was never really 44 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,680 about like the whole like money aspect. Is more just like conly the notoriety 45 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:15,280 that having the name the fan base. Sure that makes sense. I used 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,439 to back in high school when Facebook was big, I would befriend porn stars 47 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:23,840 on Facebook, and I had this one guy at my job go like, 48 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,840 this is look, I understand this is this is corny, but this is 49 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:31,960 when Facebook was cool, and I thought I had brilliant ideas. I knew 50 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,520 someday I would have some sort of website or media project or something else going 51 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,599 on. And at the time on Facebook, all these porn stars had four 52 00:03:40,639 --> 00:03:45,319 thousand and five thousand followers or whatever it was. So this guy at my 53 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,120 job was like, I see what you do. You follow all the porn 54 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:50,680 stars and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a great 55 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,919 wall to be able to post on and be like, hey, check this 56 00:03:53,080 --> 00:04:00,599 out. So there's I've always had these ideas of kind of like, you 57 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:04,400 know, path of least resistance to getting out there and getting supposed. You 58 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:08,000 seem like you went the more difficult way, which is, you know, 59 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:15,400 on your back surrounded by dudes. What kind of like what kind of anxiety? 60 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,360 Did you have any kind of anxiety jumping into it the first time? 61 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:23,000 No? Go ahead, sorry no. So weirdly enough, my only anxiety 62 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,279 was so I was always like the really shy, nerdy girl of school, 63 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:30,959 Like I sat by myself the lunch. So the most anxiety that I had, 64 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:33,839 like that I had have slashed and porn is I don't know. It's 65 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,839 like going on set not really knowing anybody because I don't live in La but 66 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,120 I'm not out there with people like being in like you know, like the 67 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,959 whole like friend group whatever. So my anxiety was when I felt on set 68 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:48,279 and I'm just like standing there by myself and already knows everybody. Shane, 69 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:55,279 you got any questions? Yeah, so you said that you jumped into porn, 70 00:04:55,439 --> 00:05:00,920 you know, like as a springboard for the notoriety, but also to 71 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,480 have like a bunch of cool stories to write about. So are all these 72 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:13,040 stories are they like intended to be for like an auto biography? Is that 73 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:16,639 the purpose to have them? Or is it to inspire tons of fiction projects? 74 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,519 Like oh, this was a crazy thing that happened. I could write 75 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:25,519 a whole book about it. Yeah, so Romance Class Extra. It started 76 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:30,480 out as an autobiography, but obviously I had like change names, locations, 77 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:34,199 like, So I've been telling people that although it's meant to be an autobiography, 78 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,279 it's more based on a true story, like real fiction. But that 79 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:44,120 makes sense. So it's like Texas Chainsaw massacre, Like some parts are like 80 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:49,360 real, but like there's some stuff. Yes, that's like my favorite movie. 81 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:57,360 Okay, Halloween, that's my whole sleeve. Yeah, we're we're we're 82 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:01,759 doing our Halloween specials now we're recording with different people. So let's ask do 83 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,519 you like the original Texas Chainsaw or did you like the Jessica bal One? 84 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,639 Oh? Original Porsure. Original's fine. But we also said, right Shane 85 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,560 during our interview we did the other day with a movie expert, it's a 86 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,839 good remake that Jessica bial One's not a bad one. It's for remake. 87 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:25,680 It's very good. Yes, yes, for sure. All right. So 88 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,720 the book writing process, now, nothing seems more tedious to me as a 89 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:34,399 guy behind a microphone than sitting down and writing a book. I know, 90 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,519 I did my research into you. You went to college for journalism, I 91 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,319 believe, right, Yeah, Okay, I started writing when I was like 92 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,560 twelve. You know, I had always been the type that came up with 93 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:50,800 ideas, and then when it actually came to writing, it seems, like 94 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 I said, kind of tedious, like oh, I got to fill this 95 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,040 in, I gotta fill this and can I just tell you in five minutes 96 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,199 what the whole story is? So how do you and I read the first 97 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:06,279 chapter of your book today. Very hot story to kick it off with. 98 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:15,120 But how do you jump into writing about these stories? Like? Are you 99 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,319 just being god? I sound like a Neanderthal saying this. Are you just 100 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,240 trying to be as descriptive as you can? Because you actually vote wrote it 101 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,240 very well, Like it wasn't just like a cool line by line account of 102 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:30,720 like I went to this party, blew the guy and blah blah blah. 103 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,439 It wasn't like a Brady read to immerse themselves. I feel like they're like 104 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,959 they were there. Okay, well I was actually putting myself in a different 105 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,199 role in that position. But uh yeah, I know I could. I 106 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,959 could do that. I could see myself at least on my knees once. 107 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:54,480 So uh so, when you, you know, you were younger you were 108 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,839 writing, was it always fiction? Were you like taking things in your life 109 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,560 and blowing them up and making them, you know, into full blown stories? 110 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Or what is your favorite kind of thing to write? Like if I 111 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,839 could just put a contract down today and go five book deal whatever Sarah Saint 112 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:15,480 Clair wants to do, what kind of books would you write right now? 113 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,639 I would definitely keep on doing the whole like erotica, because that's been my 114 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,120 life the last fifteen years almost. But it's garden all off with Like I 115 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:31,480 love poetry and like short stories, like everyday type things. But yeah, 116 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:37,519 happened in the corn for so long now I feel like all my stories are 117 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,559 just about Dix. Shane too, which is so it's a lot of fun. 118 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,080 All he does is talk about Dix all the time, comm and everything 119 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,600 else. That's why we started the show. Yeah, yeah, I just 120 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:54,679 wanted to talk about Dix and common stuff. Shane. You are a reader, 121 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:58,039 Shane reads a lot more than me by a long stretch. Yeah. 122 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:01,799 Yeah, I mean, you know, I listen to books sometimes. That's 123 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:07,679 the other question. Wait, you can't do that. I can't not even 124 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,840 digital books either, Like you like the paper in hand, like turning the 125 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,480 page. Yeah, I'll say this, nothing's better than the smell of a 126 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:22,559 new book, right, Yeah, yeah, Shane. Yes, what do 127 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,000 you got for an author? Oh well, well yeah, I was just 128 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,799 listening to all this stuff she was saying there about so writing short fiction and 129 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:37,799 poetry and stuff like that. If the book becomes a success, Like, 130 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,120 what what is your next project? Like you know, Matt said, like 131 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,480 contract put out there. If you're going to write another erotica, is it 132 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,679 going to be are you going to dive further down the fiction route? I 133 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,480 mean because you said that, or are you going to continue this as a 134 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,159 series like what have you? What have you got land as far as writing. 135 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,159 Yeah, so actually, at the end of Romance ca Sextra, like, 136 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,360 it's not a cliffhanger because I do tie up like all the Blue sends, 137 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:09,960 but it's definitely open to go on to book number Okay, ideally, 138 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,279 I like how it is a trilogy. Oh okay, yeah, good things 139 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,679 come in threes huh yeah, yeah or five, six, seven eighths and 140 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,440 if you like the kind of porn I enjoy with the with the audio, 141 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,360 with the audio that I know that you don't prefer it. But since it's 142 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,679 an erotic book, you're an erotic writer. Are you going to do the 143 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:41,399 voice for the digital or the audio version? Yes? Eventually my co writer 144 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,120 really wanted me to have the the audible done by time we released the book 145 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:50,360 on Amazon. But fun story, I grew up with a really really really 146 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,759 bad stutter. So the idea of like sitting down and like recording my voice 147 00:10:54,919 --> 00:11:00,720 like reading my book just sounds overwhelming, but it is on the to do 148 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,720 list hopefully the next few months. You know what you do. I haven't 149 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:09,000 seen this yet. I would record it and not put it up on Amazon. 150 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Can you put it on like your only fans or something like that as 151 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:18,279 an additional audio messages? Yeah? No, So I actually wanted to do 152 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,320 that, and I ran it by a few people and everyone's like, no, 153 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:22,799 people are your only fans? Aren't aren't there to listen to you read 154 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:28,000 a book? You know what? Actually? But I had though, yeah, 155 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,799 yeah, you know what? Though, I mean I would say that 156 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:35,679 about something like a JOI and yet there's millions of dollars being pumped into only 157 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,279 fans every day for JOI videos. It's like, oh, I need to 158 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,519 see the tits or a cock and ball torture. You know, who wants 159 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,360 their dick all smashed up? But people pay for it? Yeah, I 160 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:48,039 don't know. That might be interesting. It's a fun little marketing angle. 161 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,679 So we we've interviewed a lot of girls nowadays, and it seems like the 162 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,840 biggest thing is marketing. And you've done a great job of marking yourself. 163 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,159 But when did you really pick up steam? Was there a specific scene you 164 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,879 did or something like that when you notice like jumps and followers or was it 165 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,480 just constant grinding? Was it a slow you know? Ten ten, ten, 166 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,159 ten, ten new followers, fifteen new follower Okay, yeah, now 167 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,600 it's been us slow build up. But yeah, like every time I released 168 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,919 a new mainstream scene, there's more. But like I said, I don't 169 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,679 live in La so I really only shoot big scenes like once or twice a 170 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:33,000 year. Really, Oh, that's you know, because that's why that's why 171 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,440 I've been in the industry since twenty sixteen. But like my credit lis is 172 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,240 about that bear. Oh yeah, I did notice that. But you have 173 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,200 tons of content out there, so we'll jump back in the book stuff for 174 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,519 a second. I gotta like, you know, keep the fans turned on 175 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,600 somewhat, So do you mostly shoot OnlyFans content? Then? Okay, all 176 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 right, and what sets your only fans apart? Well, it has Sarah 177 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Saint Claire obviously, but how often are you updating what kind of stuff is 178 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:05,519 actually on there? And by the way, if you folks want to check 179 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:11,840 out her only fans, don't forget it's Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Yes, 180 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,360 So mine is like I know, a lot of girls like they're really fancy 181 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,639 lighting, like really fancy videos. Mine is am it like like a lot 182 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,759 of pro am like stuff that I shoot at home on my phone, like 183 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,600 you know, having fun in real life. So my only fans is real 184 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:35,399 life Sarah that see. I prefer that. I I told you. When 185 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,879 I'm watching porn, I like it has to be like am like the pro 186 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,200 am, like like a husband and wife clearly shot this in their bedroom just 187 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,480 being kinky one night. Like That's why I need to get off because otherwise 188 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:46,960 I'm like, hey, know that dick, I know that couch, I 189 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,360 have those panties. We interviewed Catherine Knight the other day and she was awesome 190 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,360 interviewed to talk to And what was fun about her though, is she's the 191 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:00,879 total opposite. It seems like she's all like hyper auction. It's like, 192 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,720 if we don't have a ten thousand dollars lighting rig, I ain't taking my 193 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,600 top off, which is great. People love that and it's obviously successful. 194 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:13,799 Me I need to hear like unlicensed Metallica in the background at a glory hole. 195 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,759 Terrible lighting. You know that's just what I like personally. Yeah, 196 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:20,159 it's real. I like that, and that's what's great. There's a world, 197 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,840 you know, for anybody, any kind of fetish, any kind of 198 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,279 whatever, and bornt. There's always something you know, all right, So 199 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,120 can you tell us what let's compare and contrast do you have in this book? 200 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Because again I haven't gotten a chance to finish it. I will check 201 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:39,919 it out. Make sure you check out as well. Romance Cross Extra available 202 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:45,279 on Amazon. Now, do you tell like your wildest real life sex story 203 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,720 in there? Or is that saving it for the trilogy? Okay? What 204 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:58,639 was that and what happened? Let's all right? Okay, I see you're 205 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,120 reluctant. Here's the thing, maybe not your wildest one. How about you 206 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:07,159 tell us your third wildest one. Here's the thing. Everyone's going to buy 207 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,679 your book. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not gonna be the wildest one, 208 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:15,960 but probably most like so like as far as like wildest sex scene, 209 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,240 no that's not in there, but like the wildest scenario of said sex scene 210 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,120 is my favorite. I met this guy a while ago and we started hooking 211 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,320 up whatever, and this would be I don't know. I was smell over 212 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,279 in the morning when his wife went to work, and then one day he'd 213 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,840 be like, so, I won't have a threesome, but you can't tell 214 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,840 her that I hired you. I can ask for it to say that we 215 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,000 met on like golfriends find we're looking for like a threesome. I'm like, 216 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:48,039 okay, just whatever. So have three sims with him and his wife and 217 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:52,080 don't hear from him for a while. Turns out he went to prison for 218 00:15:52,320 --> 00:16:00,320 some white collar shit like so never saw them. She actually divorces out while 219 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,080 he was in jail. I thought it was going to take a twist. 220 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,720 I thought you were going to still show up the next day after he went 221 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:07,840 to prison and you go to the wife. You're like, let's go at 222 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,519 it. Come on, I'll keep you good. You're my boo for the 223 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:19,720 next five years. So fast forward about eight years later. I started hooking 224 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:23,480 up with this dude and I meet him. I meet him through a mutual 225 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,559 friend. So mutual friend and I are talking and like, yeah, like 226 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Brett's wife he talks about all the time, and our mutual friend starts telling 227 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,000 me about her. I'm like, wait, wait, was she married to 228 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,639 so and so and used to live in ex City? And he's like, 229 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,919 yes, this woman who I had three soons with with her husband is now 230 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:52,759 married to another client, but he hasn't asked to set up a threesome yet, 231 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:56,279 has he? Oh? I always said your I'm like, like, 232 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:59,960 he should bring your life over someday she would like it, and he doesn't. 233 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:02,799 Does it not that that she's been wild? He's like, I don't. 234 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:04,839 I don't know if she'd be into that. She's she's kind of shy 235 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,480 and on the reserve side. I'm thinking, sir, that's true wife and 236 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:11,240 the ass of the strap on. So I can't tell him that though, 237 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:17,200 well you could, but I mean you certainly could. Yeah, it would 238 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,480 be too weird for him to know that. All right, look at you 239 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,599 keeping secrets? Wow? Yeah, yeah you do. All right. I 240 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,119 would have wrote an anonymous letter. I always wrote a book about it. 241 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:33,240 Here's my question, and this is not meant to criticize whatsoever. I'm just 242 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,160 asking from a level of stupidity and ignorance. All right, is there a 243 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:47,279 companion escort code in terms of privacy? And does your book? I don't 244 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:52,240 think it does, but maybe does your book kind of break that code a 245 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,400 little bit? No? Because and that's why I had to stop calling it 246 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,000 an autoiography because so much was changed in it to protect names and everything. 247 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,160 That sure, So is that the code? Then? Is it like, 248 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:11,799 hey, you're paying partially for your time and then partially for I'm not gonna 249 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,319 say nothing for me to shut the fuck up. Yeah, So what do 250 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,160 you think of girls who do come out and say stuff? I know I've 251 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,279 read you're big sports fan. I don't know if I know you. You 252 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:23,720 like the Saints? Right, this was an old interview I read. Okay, 253 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:30,279 so same town. How do you feel about Zion Williamson and the OnlyFans 254 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:36,640 performer he was with coming out and spilling the beans on everything that shick lost 255 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,200 her damn mind. Like all of us were like scrolling through three base What 256 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:47,200 is this girl doing? Like she's breaking every code? Like, yeah, 257 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,880 not a good book. So there is a well, and I don't mean 258 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,079 this in a derogatory way like a bro code. There's like a hoe code 259 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,680 too, right, yeah, oh for sure? All right, that's fun 260 00:18:57,519 --> 00:19:03,599 without naming any name, are divulging anything? Do you have like a do 261 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,119 you have like a client list like an A TI or B TRE Do you 262 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,160 have like certain clients? I mean, obviously you're going to prioritize because of 263 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,880 their spending habits or whatever. But do you have any that are like VIPs? 264 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:22,039 You know, maybe like a handful that are like my favorites, like 265 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,039 I would consider like real life friends and and do any of them, you 266 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:30,359 know, like we were just talking about this that woman. What's that guy's 267 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,680 name, Zion Zion Williamson, Yeah, Williamson. Do you have any that 268 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:40,200 are like, you know, draft picks or yeah, round of the NFL 269 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:47,680 draft? Are your guys coming from generally the last she gets a lot of 270 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:52,160 kickers and punters swinging by now. To be honest, though, and again 271 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,039 you don't have to divulge names. We've gotten some fun names off. I'm 272 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:59,559 sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Oh no, like on that topic 273 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:03,599 though, like like I don't think you want like those like super super big 274 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,000 name type people though, just because it seems so stressful, like they could 275 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,319 have like their pick of whatever. So you have to perform like extra extra 276 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,640 extra good, Like I don't know, I don't know how to just take 277 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:18,240 Bob from hr who's just excited to hang out with me. You know what, 278 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:21,880 though I've seen you you're a hell of a performer, and I think 279 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,759 if you want to go up that next level. I think you can do 280 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,079 it. I think you can grab at least the second round pick in the 281 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,839 NBA draft, maybe a lottery guy down the line, for sure. That's 282 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:40,640 a pretty big compliment. Now the question is going back to the porn side 283 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,319 real quick. How do I say this nicely? Are you a size queen? 284 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,839 Could you take some of these lottery picks? Okay? Okay, oh 285 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,599 yeah, what do you think the biggest guy you've ever been with is size 286 00:20:53,640 --> 00:21:02,559 wise? Dread? Oh? Okay everyone? I mean yeah, gets bigger 287 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,680 than that. Yeah, yeah, you put Dread into Twitter. Now. 288 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:08,920 I always wonder, though, is that a burden being a gentleman like that, 289 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,519 you know, with a kickstand dick. I don't know, it's not, 290 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,519 No, I don't think so. I mean it's like, like, 291 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:22,359 what girl's going to break up with a guy because his dick's too big? 292 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,079 You know, like she's not going to be able to live that down because 293 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,839 there's going to be one friend in the friend group who's definitely got a husband 294 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,160 whose dick doesn't even work, you know, and it's like, you know, 295 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,279 you've been talking to my wife Okay, yeah you know, yeah, 296 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,880 yeah, yeah, she she could never live it down. You know she 297 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,960 sent dread packet. You know she could find another reason blame it on that, 298 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:52,000 But no one would admit to not wanting to have a eighteen inch Oh 299 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,400 oh okay, I disagree, thank you, I do too, right, 300 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:02,000 Sarah? Tell him why we agree on this one? So yeah, like 301 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:04,640 I'm a side sweened and like for just like fucking around for like a night 302 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:08,680 or two. Yeah, please like restroy me. But if we're dating, 303 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,240 I donot want that every night. Like boyfriend Dick is like seven eight inches, 304 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,200 like big solid, But do you think over that one is like big 305 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,119 big, You don't want that every night? At that point you're gonna be 306 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,359 torn, it's gonna hurt. Well, he doesn't have to put the whole 307 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,960 thing in, does he? Like? What if it's like a thirteen? 308 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,039 But goes to me where I say, is that a burden for him? 309 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:36,480 Because I mean, you're not going down to the hilt every time? You 310 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:38,319 don't need to. I mean when you jack off to you, do you 311 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:45,119 do you use the whole into my pubis? Yeah? Really yeah that sounds 312 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,839 thankful. I just concentrate on the tip man. I just kind of like 313 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,599 squeeze it and need it like a roll of pizza. Though I like squeezing 314 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,160 it real hard until it turns purple and then I flick it, yeah, 315 00:22:57,519 --> 00:23:02,920 till it explodes like a volcano. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But 316 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,200 I agree, I agree with Sarah kind of. I don't know, like 317 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119 we all would want a chick who's like, you know, a real nympho 318 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,119 and like, oh I want to fuck all the time, blah blah blah. 319 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,039 But for a girlfriend sometimes it's like, oh, we got to do 320 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:17,559 dinner with my mother and she's like, well, just let me blow you 321 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:21,039 four times before we go there. I feel the same way if I was 322 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,640 a chick. Yeah, it would be great to have a guy who just 323 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:27,680 you know, sends you to the frozen food aisle to tape something to yourself. 324 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,960 But at the end of the day, like, do I want that 325 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,000 all the time? Especially with a guy with a dick that big, you 326 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:41,200 have to have a killer sex drive, so he's gonna want it all the 327 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,119 time. And then you're beat up all the time and you're doing that cool 328 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,920 thing they do in porn where you put it up against your forearm and you're 329 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:53,480 like, yeah, you get battered. Wives syndrome yeah, back to the 330 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,920 book real quick. How did you the book? Of course, obviously Romance 331 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,240 Costs Extra available now on Amazon by missing Sarah Saint Claire. How did you 332 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:10,440 sort through and determine which ones to put in this what to save for the 333 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,880 next one? You know, like, if you have twenty stories in this, 334 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,000 how many of those are a pluses? And how many did you throw 335 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,400 in a couple c pluses with like fun entertaining stuff, and then what are 336 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,960 you gonna carry over? Because me, I always think of musical artists when 337 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,519 their first big, first hit album has all the hits on it, and 338 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:32,640 you're like, oh, they've been saving that all their life for that, 339 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,599 and then the second album stinks because they're writing about being on private jets. 340 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:42,079 So how do you how do you reconcile that in terms of what to put 341 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:48,680 and what not to put? So Book one honestly mainly a while hooking and 342 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,960 I have it set up so at the end of Romances strap im sorry, 343 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:59,400 my dog's getting into god knows what. So the end is set up where 344 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:03,319 I'm packing up and going to LA to start doing porn. So then books 345 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,480 she was mainly going to be about porn, and like hooking some things that 346 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:10,839 I met through doing porn and yeah, all right, so you have your 347 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,640 arc already designed now, but then what's book three? Is that written? 348 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,720 Is that like Godfather three? Do you read that forty years from now when 349 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,519 you retire? Yes? Actually I wanted to book book number three to took 350 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:27,200 to be about retirement. Wow. Now right, that's interesting. So how 351 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,240 far are you from retirement? Please don't say anywhere near soon? No? 352 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,480 No, actually, I actually it took eight month hiatus this year because I 353 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:47,720 was trying to do the whole trophy girlfriend thing and what's u U? But 354 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:49,240 that? Okay, so what was the trophy girlfriend? Now? Did you 355 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:55,480 have to did you take a hiatus from everything or just shooting porn? Wow? 356 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,720 So did that? Did you intend on that only being eight months a 357 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:06,720 year or did it fizzle out? Unfortunately? M boys lie, yeah, 358 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:14,279 we do do that, cheater, Yeah, yes, oh I know. 359 00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:18,519 It's just like one of those universal laws like gravity. M yeah. But 360 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:25,079 uh, the the thing about changing, you know, like your whole lifestyle, 361 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,759 like you're shooting on your own, you're doing scenes, and then to 362 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,920 change it all for a person, like what was that like were you were 363 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,400 you working in McDonald's or like, what what did you do for those eight 364 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:47,440 months? So I was doing just OnlyFans, like all the solo stuff and 365 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,799 everything. So he wasn't like a complete square. I met him via work, 366 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,240 so he was kind of taking care of me, got it? God? 367 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,319 Okay, I see, I was thinking more along the lines. It 368 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,680 was one of these We talked to several people who have you know, told 369 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:11,720 us that they they've tried to give it up for a relationship all porn and 370 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,240 it's like some sort of morality thing, you know, and it's like it 371 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,119 never works. It's like if you're changing your yourself for your partner right at 372 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,359 the beginning. Oh, like I have to go bored too, because like 373 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,480 this since I was eighteen years old in some way, shape or form, 374 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,680 So like, I don't know, trying to give it up, it's like 375 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,319 I was giving up like a whole part of who I am as a person 376 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,680 at this point. Yeah, definitely. So was it for love or was 377 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:44,759 it just that you would be taken care of? Both? Okay, Okay, 378 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,160 how many zeros do I need in my bank account to wife up? 379 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:52,279 Sarah Saint Clair. I guess it's more also a balancing act. Of how 380 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,119 many inches I would need in my pants, and I don't qualify with that, 381 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,640 So how many more? Seven? Eight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 382 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,799 I told you I don't qualify in that. So where are we getting 383 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:07,119 up to? What is a lifestyle where you are comfortable stepping away from porn? 384 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,160 Is this just a job for you I have Obviously you said you were 385 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,839 bored, But we've talked to a lot of pros, and we talked to 386 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,759 a lot of new girls. We do a whole Jesus Christ that shot. 387 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,519 My goodness. We talked to a lot of new girls who are like gung 388 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,359 ho, like, oh my god, I just want this, I want 389 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,839 to dick, I want money, blah blah blah bah. And then we 390 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,400 talked to girls who've been in the industry for a long time who seem like 391 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400 maybe they've had their fill of dick and they're just like, hey man, 392 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,480 whatever takes me in the next level. Let me ask you, what does 393 00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:44,200 it take to come for someone to come into your life and sweep you off 394 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,400 the feet to the point where you're like, I don't really want to do 395 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,680 porn anymore. Does it have to be good looking guy, money and a 396 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:59,119 good enough sex drive where you're not like craving it elsewhere. That's actually a 397 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,640 question I can ask myself lately, because you know, coming out of the 398 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 relationship, it's like, okay, so what do I really really want? 399 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,920 So honestly, I don't think there's anybody except for one person who can get 400 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,039 me to stop doing this at this point. Really, who's that? Do 401 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:19,680 we know that Leon Williamson is the main character in my book? Oh? 402 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,960 Okay, okay, aren't you the main character in your book? Like I 403 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,480 said, I only saw the the main my main love interest. Okay, 404 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,920 fair enough, fair enough, And Brian the aerahalls for it because she's the 405 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,279 dumbass. Now, okay, but you you recognize that maybe it's not a 406 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,000 good situation for you. But then why why does it draw you back in? 407 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Is that just what love is? Yeah? I said, probably something 408 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,640 that you want so bad but you can't have it? Okay, all right, 409 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,599 now, going back to what we were joking about before, how I 410 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,359 want to start asking all of the girls this, Shane, because I find 411 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,640 it so interesting how many athletes are currently in your d MS any at all? 412 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Do you think mmmm, at the moment, there's a rock star and 413 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,759 a DJ in my ideas. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I 414 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,000 always pick athletes because it generally represents the kind of porn I like, so, 415 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:26,240 uh no, the athlete thing, it goes through through cycles. Really, 416 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:33,359 what are the cycles on that? A lot of it is like I'd 417 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,359 be an extra cleat chaser. I'll be like, ah, Saints, that's 418 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:48,319 fucking whoever, right, But like I'll like all of them and then eventually 419 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,079 one is going to see it and slide of the dems. Okay, that's 420 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,440 fair enough. Do you have any other ambitions for any other types of books 421 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240 in the future, Like, do you ever want to write I don't know, 422 00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:06,359 a sci fi or a mystery or whatever. No, that shit's boring, 423 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:08,359 right, doesn't that shit kind of seem boring? Like you're writing a 424 00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,359 story this guy got I just want to be like this guy got stabbed. 425 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,799 A bunch of people questioned it. Then it was the butler and you're like, 426 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400 there you go. One page is my book right there? And the 427 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,160 butler killed them. No, So I definitely see myself always writing some form 428 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,839 of erotica. But one project that I've had in my brain for a very 429 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,319 very long time is and I need to take like a good creative writing course 430 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,720 to be able to do this. But I want to write a book about 431 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,400 all the pets that live in a whorehouse like Madam runs the player. A 432 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,039 bunch of cross tubes that live there, and they all have like their little 433 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:48,319 animals. There's Pierre, the parrot pimp. He yells at everybody Greek clocks 434 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:55,400 like a children's book exactly, but like a slutty children's book, who just 435 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,839 gives like really aggressive side eye to every John that walks through the door. 436 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,759 And then all the little rat friends who talk shit like, oh there's that 437 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,240 guy who wants to side up a weirdo. Oh my god, can I 438 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,839 tell you how much I couldn't keep my dick hard If I walked in and 439 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,000 there was a cat and a parrot and a bunch of rats and rat room, 440 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,400 I'd be like, yo, this chick needs to do some kind of 441 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,880 tongue swirl because my dick ain't gonna work with this zoo looking at me. 442 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:27,160 Okay, we go to my car. Actually, it would be funny if 443 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,160 she went completely nuts though. If we were talking about, like, do 444 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,160 you have any other ambitions? And Sarah was like, well, okay, 445 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,599 you guys know scientology, right, like yeah, and she's like twenty eight 446 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720 book ida I have here, and it's about a different kind of alien creature, 447 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:45,359 Like oh boy, okay, go on, go on, dianetics. 448 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,279 We got trianetics. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's sitting 449 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,000 here and she's too hot for us to be like, oh this sounds crazy. 450 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,319 Just so you know, it's funny you said that there is a market 451 00:32:54,359 --> 00:33:00,880 I feel like for adult children's books. You had that same Jackson one a 452 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,359 few years ago, Go the fuck to Sleep. My friend Vicky actually wrote 453 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,559 a Yeah. Yeah, my friend Vicky wrote a book called B is for 454 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Blunkin And it's an ab season. It's good, right, it's a funny 455 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:22,440 idea, it's a it's a picture book, but it's all it's all just 456 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,279 you know, you know what N was for necrophilia and uh oh yeah that 457 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,440 one was funny. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they were all good. 458 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:36,720 So has this always been your personality? Like you're all in on erotica 459 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,680 now, and you said you were shy grown up, but what was your 460 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:44,319 sexual one eighty in life? Where was it you were shy girl? And 461 00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:50,079 then and did that factor into your I don't want to say sexual revolution, 462 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,920 because that sounds like I'm to Awakening for six Awakening is yeah, that sounds 463 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,480 corny too, but I agree with you. Was there something where you went 464 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,920 from like me, what was the movie She's All that? Where you went 465 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,240 from kind of like, you know, nerdy, shy girl and then you 466 00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:07,160 turn around and it's like, wow, Sarah's fucking sexy and when should take 467 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:15,440 your glasses off? No, So I guess my thing was once I realized 468 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,440 that sex would be lucrative, make money, get myself places, I was 469 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,239 like, Okay, we can probably do this. And even like when I 470 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480 first started like stripping and stuff, I was still kind of shy girl. 471 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,039 But then eventually I don't know, I wish I had the I wish I 472 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,079 can give you a story of some monumental moment, but at some point I 473 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,159 just like fucking stopped hearing. Well, it's like social media. It was 474 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,199 gradual for you then, huh it was just yeah? And and was there 475 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,159 anxiety at each new plateau at all? Or were you just like, well, 476 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:50,079 I've come this far, keep climbing. Yeah, Like because it's like 477 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,719 it was like baby step, babystap, baby steps, So it was never 478 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,639 like just like well, I'm scareduble because it's like, okay, like like 479 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,519 I started doing nude modeling, then I was doing tied up modeling, then 480 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:04,800 I was doing tied up on video, so like it's only just like a 481 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,239 little bit different each time. Yeah, but then you go from Yeah, 482 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,119 if you look at a timeline and shorter increments, yes, it seems like 483 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,760 that. But if I were to look at the timeline of you on a 484 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,679 larger increment, it would go she did nude modeling, and then jump ahead 485 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:25,320 seven guy gangbang for here. What's the uh, what's the most anxiety you 486 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,039 ever had going into a scene? Let me ask? That was something like, 487 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:36,679 let me tell you that was ten dudes. He let me tell you. 488 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,639 I have a wife. She's gorgeous. I get laid. It's no 489 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,679 problem. But I am somewhat of a pornography connoisseur. Texas Bukkaki is the 490 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,400 site that we got probably our best friend off of this show. She's an 491 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,639 only fans performer. She doesn't want to go mainstream, but she shot four 492 00:35:53,679 --> 00:36:01,199 scenes of Texas Bukkaki kat Karma or gasmic love her to death. Those, 493 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,440 to me are actually prime example of what I was talking about before where you 494 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,480 have like family guy playing in the background and you're like, oh, I 495 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,079 don't think Fox licensed that out to these guys, so it feels more real 496 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,400 and that Yeah. No, And that was the most low end thing ever 497 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960 too, Like I flew into Dallas and there's ten dudes in one hotel room. 498 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,079 It was a high at players. Yeah, yeah, and they don't 499 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:35,400 exactly bust out the suits for you. It looked like and let me tell 500 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,199 you where there's ten people in a small hotel room and you look at it 501 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,760 like, oh wow, I was pack. You're like, whoa, I'm 502 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:45,159 going to fuck all of these people? Oh my god. That that was 503 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,280 an anxious moment. That was a oh when I get myself into I think 504 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,119 I've bit off more than I could chew. I'm totally fucking intended. But 505 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,800 no, you did it though, I mean you came out the other end, 506 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,840 So does that give you confidence then? Like I'll see. I was 507 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:06,760 gonna say I would think the more intimidating scene and this is totally positive stereotypes, 508 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,400 but you shot with the unfortunately named dogfart dot Com and that scene looked 509 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,199 intense to me because yeah, your Texas bukank was more guys, I believe, 510 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:22,159 but I mean size comparison between the two. Yeah. Yeah. There 511 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,199 was one where it felt like I was like, Oh, she's really having 512 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,280 a good time in this gang bang. And there was one where I was 513 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,719 like, oh, she's sitting on frozen peas on the way home. Oh 514 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,000 yes, yeah, like halfway the halfway to that scene, I'm like, 515 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,920 how the fuck am I going to keep doing this? I am hurting my 516 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,280 buttle, cannot take any more big black jack of side and I'm gonna cry. 517 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,880 But she was only half done, and I don't know. I like 518 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,079 to say I can do anything for an hour, likes crazy shit. Ever 519 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,280 it's only an hour, I can do it. So that's kind of like 520 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,400 the metality is Okay, we're aready halfway done. You can do it. 521 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,199 That text like oh go ahead. Sorry. It's like getting on a roller 522 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,719 coaster, right, like you know, you're all amped up and then like 523 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,920 you're once you're strapped in, Like the anxiety can build and build, yeah, 524 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,920 Like it can build up as much as you want it, like let 525 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,760 it go as high as it can possibly go while you're going up that hill, 526 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,239 you know, but you can't get off and like you're just along for 527 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239 the ride, you know, you kind of just don't have a choice but 528 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,719 to get through it, right exactly. Yeah, it's like it's like we've 529 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,760 been on set all day, like we've got to push here at the end 530 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,599 of the scene and we get to go home. So that'd be funny the 531 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,880 idea of you rallying cry the team, like guys are dehydrated, they're tired, 532 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,239 the dicks are a little limp, Like, gentlemen, we need a 533 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,039 real any given Sunday speech. We need to get these dicks up. We 534 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,960 need to finish this scene. The lighting is set. We will get in 535 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:53,719 history. Oh man, I loved Texas Bukocky, and then they got like 536 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,639 sold to like a foreign thing. And it went from like kind of no 537 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,280 name or names you would know sometimes that Sarah Saint Clair would pop up on 538 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:09,599 their Trinity Saint Clair. They only got Saint Clair's apparently great family line and 539 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:15,280 uh. And then it went from that to like they got bought out I 540 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,599 think by like an overseas company. So it was like Olga and Helga get 541 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,760 gangbanged, and you're like, oh, that's it's not the same. It's 542 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:30,719 not that dingy little Texas Hotel room exactly. Uh yeah, I like to 543 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,320 see more of that in porn now that you just mentioned that the Saint Clair's 544 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:42,320 like, I I'd like to see more team ups like with the similarly names. 545 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,280 Yeah oh yeah, like no, Like you know how drag queens have 546 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,320 like houses like that, the House of the Donda or whatever, and it's 547 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,360 like all the queens from that line that that house will have the same last 548 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:59,079 name. Yeah, we should do that with porn. Y good idea. 549 00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,840 I think you're on some they've had. I mean they've had how many different 550 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,800 TV shows. I think ex Hamster had one for a while where it was 551 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,000 like a reality show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tried to 552 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,280 do one. It was yeah. Yeah. You know what though, there's 553 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,400 potential for me to like that, and I just they never nail it for 554 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,519 me for some reason. You know who does it right is the Europeans. 555 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,880 The Europeans shoot that shit properly. I don't understand most of the stuff they're 556 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,239 saying because they don't usually upload subtitles, but yeah, the European and the 557 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:37,119 European like porn game shows rule where it's like they'll have like some dude and 558 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:39,880 he'll like have like four naked women in front of them, and then he'll 559 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,679 like rate their naked bodies, but they're always really respectful in Europe how they 560 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,599 do it, and he'll like pick the one based on her nude appearance that 561 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,719 he wants to date, and then he has to get naked and then she'll 562 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,320 be like, well you know what I would dick. Yeah, yeah, 563 00:40:54,360 --> 00:41:00,079 sometimes it happens, you know, it rules, Yeah, that's love it, 564 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:06,800 that's interesting. I don't know, I like I like we talked about 565 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,039 a few times already. I like that. Not dingy, not degrading, 566 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,239 but just kind of like, you know, this guy bought the most expensive 567 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,079 equipment he could afford and is now shooting it kind of like half cocked in 568 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,599 a hotel room. I just love that. That is good stuff. That 569 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,679 is good. I'll tell you I got my porn man. Yeah. Oh 570 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,000 yeah, your your wife. Oh I thought you were plugging your wife for 571 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,599 a second there. Well, I mean I can, but I'm saying, 572 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,800 like, I mean, that's what you like. That's what my shit looks 573 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,519 like. It's bad, Okay, I don't know mine too. I feel 574 00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:46,440 that, but you know what your fans are all about it And let me 575 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,440 ask you only shoot like two major scenes a year, you say, or 576 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,559 with major companies. We've talked to a lot of professional girls who it seems 577 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:59,519 like that's not not the amount of time. But that's the thing you're seen 578 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:04,280 at, Brad. You're seeing a team skeet whatever it is. That's an 579 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,239 advertisement for your only fans. Is that how you treat that? Yeah, 580 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:14,079 because every time that they promote that on Twitter, Instagram, whatever, don't 581 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:15,960 have my little handle and then the fans are going to see my handle click 582 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,679 on it and then boom, that's what the follower for Sarah. That's another 583 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000 only fan subscription. Yeah, there you go. We play a little game 584 00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:28,039 on this show, and I want to run it by you here. It's 585 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:35,079 called Sack And this originally started when we interviewed Sarah j and Sarah Jay has 586 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,360 been offered tens of thousands of dollars for her first anal scene and she just 587 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,800 won't do it. There's just not what she's into. She doesn't like it, 588 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800 she doesn't like the idea of it. I don't know if she doesn't 589 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,840 like her brand being represented that way or if she just doesn't like it in 590 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,159 general. So we play a game called sack and what that stands for is 591 00:42:52,480 --> 00:43:00,599 shit, animals and kids sak because we got the idea to start asking is 592 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:07,239 there anything And then the inverse of this question as well, is there anything 593 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:13,599 that you wantn't do on camera regardless of the amount of money that has been 594 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,719 put forth? And then the opposite is is there any type of genre or 595 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,880 scene or anything like that, or a performer you want to work with where 596 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,760 your normal rate is here and you're willing to take a little bit of a 597 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,320 discount because you just love doing this type of thing so much. So the 598 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000 reason we call it tac is is because don't say shit, animal or kids. 599 00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,199 A lot of the first girls we would interview, I would go, 600 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,719 so what you know, what is something you wouldn't do? And they're like, 601 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,559 well, I wouldn't like fuck a kid. And we'd be like, 602 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:43,960 yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, you know, yeah, you 603 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:45,400 got to get off the zoom if you would, you know, be like, 604 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,880 well'd fuck a kid for ten grand? So what is something You're just 605 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,440 absolutely like, that's not my type of thing either. I don't want my 606 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,039 brand represented that way. I don't want to do that where even if they 607 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:00,639 hit you with a high end dollar amount, you're still just kind of like, 608 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,679 nah, not my thing. Wow, I grew up really fucking poor. 609 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,559 So anything that can be bought for the right price. Oh boy, 610 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,360 that sounds like an endorsement for shit animals and kids. No, no, 611 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,599 no, no, now I need to tap my four oh one k though 612 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,239 for a loan. There's no price too high, all right? And then 613 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,599 what is the opposite? So is there any type of scene, any genre 614 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:35,480 of seeing a cocky, a gang bang, a solo with one specific performer? 615 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,599 What is something where? Where? Where is the number set for you 616 00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,360 in your normal rates? And they go, we only have enough production budget 617 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,440 for this here, and you'd still be like, yeah, I'll do that. 618 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:53,159 I like that kind of thing. Good question. I have yet to 619 00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:58,880 shoot for kink so or like any any type of site like that. So 620 00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,840 yeah, I would shoot for next to nothing if I'm going to be like 621 00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:07,000 tied up, put the shit beat out of you, not not next to 622 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,840 nothing kink. Just so you know, you still have to pay this girl. 623 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:16,960 Okay, she is a performer. She'll take a discount for you that. 624 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,559 Yeah. Yeah, here's a kink shirt for you and some soap. 625 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:28,639 They have really weird merch here's a stuffed animal. What. Yeah, yeah, 626 00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:34,559 here's a gift card to Cracker Barrel. Yeah. Uh okay, all 627 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,639 right, that's interesting. So what do we have on the horizon. Have 628 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:44,960 you set any goals for yourself porn wise and then also writing wise, Well, 629 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:46,760 let's do porn first. Have you set any goals for yourself where you're 630 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,119 like, I want to shoot this type of scene or is there anything you 631 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,400 haven't done yet besides kink dot com or or any of those. Is there 632 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,960 anything you haven't done yet? Or have you set a future date for a 633 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,119 kink or a bondage scene or something like that where you go, I need 634 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:07,559 this by then, because that's my next goal that I'm working towards. Unfortunately, 635 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,519 I'm a lazy human. I am not. You're not lazy. You 636 00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:16,239 can pretend to be lazy. You wrote a book like you're You're better than 637 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,880 ninety eight percent of Americans. Honestly, Like, my main goal is just 638 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,800 to get back in the swing of like porn again and like start shooting more 639 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,880 regularly, and I don't know, maybe take my only fans a little bit 640 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,519 more seriously and just I don't know, like get back to being an active 641 00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,000 performer, because honestly, I've been out of it for a hot minute. 642 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:42,079 So just I'm actually going to Veguas next month for or just a month rather 643 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,599 or three scenes, and I'm gonna try to shoot some professional level content while 644 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:52,039 I'm out there, and you know, just get the ball moving, get 645 00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:53,519 back to being like a porn stargon. There you go, that's the one, 646 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:57,360 that's what you are, Shane. Do you want to hit Sarah with 647 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,159 your question that you Oh yeah, we hadn't even touched on that and it 648 00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:04,000 didn't come up. Yeah, like, how do you feel about piss? 649 00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:10,400 Oh? I love Golden Showers? Hey, good answer. Yes's a big 650 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,639 fan. All right, Shane. Do you have any other questions? I'm 651 00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,480 sorry I dominated most of this. Oh no, I like to I got 652 00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:22,480 to ask a lot of good book questions. Who's your favorite author? Oh? 653 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:29,559 Ernest bay By? Finally? And I love that? Yeah. Yeah, 654 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:31,880 I've only read Farewell to Arms and I didn't understand a lot of the 655 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:39,159 words. That's sir, ladies and gentlemen, we had on with us today. 656 00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:43,840 Sarah Saint Clair. Make sure you go to her Twitter and her only 657 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,079 fans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Remember links to everything is going to be 658 00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,239 in the episode description, and go pay for it. We always advocate pay 659 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:58,239 for your born. These are performers, they're workers, you know, do 660 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,719 it. Don't be a dick. Maybe even swing by the Amazon wish list 661 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,199 because you're gonna be on Amazon when you're purchasing her new book, Romance Costs 662 00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:10,440 Extra by Sarah Saint Clair. Uh. You know, it was wonderful talking 663 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,079 to you today. Really loved having you, Sarah. Is there anything else? 664 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:22,199 Shane? No, I'm glad that she answered, like an a notable 665 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:28,440 author, but like, who's your favorite lesser known author, Who's somebody weird 666 00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:36,280 you like that? Nobody would know you like to read? Don't say Sylvia 667 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,920 Plath. But that was literally the first and that popped in my head. 668 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,679 I'm sorry. I was like, don't say it, don't say it, 669 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,760 don't say it. All right, all right, I know everything I need 670 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:52,800 to know. That sounds that sounded judgmental. Sarah, You've been wonderful to 671 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,440 talk today. Thank you very much for coming on with us. Thank you 672 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,960 so much for your worst friend going deeper. I met, I'm Shae. 673 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:21,840 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Yeah,