You're watching Your Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. Today's guest adult film star
Sarah Saint Clair. Here's your host, Matt and Shane. You're watching Your
Worst Friend Going Deeper Season five. I'm Matt and I'm joined by my lovely
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Today, Ladies and gentlemen, we're joined by a very special guest. You
might know her from such cinematic masterpieces as I Came Inside My Sister five and
Wife's Desperate for Dick six. She's an AVN nominee, and as we'll talk
about coming up, she's now a published author. You can find her on
Twitter and OnlyFans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx and on Instagram at Silly Sarah ninety
one. Links to everything are going to be in the episode description as always,
and her new book Romance Costs Extra is available now on Amazon, so
make sure you go out and pick it up. Ladies and gentlemen, join
us in welcoming the stunning, the eloquent, the perfectly crafted Sarah Saint Clair.
Hello, Sarah, thank you very much for coming on with us today,
so keep having me on like talking to authors. So it's a real
weird balancing act because we have like this gorgeous ten sitting in front of us
that does all kinds of sexy, dirty things that I'm sure people want to
hear about, and all I want to know about is like, oh,
the book writing process. Let's talk about this. So don't be surprised if
it seems like we're inter cutting questions for the fans with questions for us here,
I'm all about it. Cool. If we could start, could you
tell us how you initially got into the adult entertainment industry. I started modeling
and stripping, and from there I did British videos and stuff, and at
that point I was already maked on the internet, so I said fuck it
it and went all the way it did born. There you go, that
makes sense? Did you have the next now? Because I've heard that before
snowball effect and whatever, and even before prior to only Fans, Because now
the headlines that come out of only Fans, it's like people are thinking,
sadly, some of these newer girls like oh, I'll be on only Fans
for like six weeks and I'll be making one hundred grand a month and blah
blah blah, blah blah blah blah. What was the promise at the time.
Was it just a little bit incrementally more money every time when you would
snowball like you said, was it just another step into fame? Like did
you think, well, if I do porn, it'll help my stripping career,
or if I do this, it'll help this, Okay, go yeah,
No, Well it's funny because my goal in life is to be a
famous writer. So I wanted to get into like the sex business to have
all these cool stories tell the world. So I did porn. So I
wanted Sarah say Claire to be a known name. So that way, when
I turn into the famous writer that I'm about to beat, I already have
a name to myself. That is the best way to do it. Establish
a fan base first, and then you can go. It was never really
about like the whole like money aspect. Is more just like conly the notoriety
that having the name the fan base. Sure that makes sense. I used
to back in high school when Facebook was big, I would befriend porn stars
on Facebook, and I had this one guy at my job go like,
this is look, I understand this is this is corny, but this is
when Facebook was cool, and I thought I had brilliant ideas. I knew
someday I would have some sort of website or media project or something else going
on. And at the time on Facebook, all these porn stars had four
thousand and five thousand followers or whatever it was. So this guy at my
job was like, I see what you do. You follow all the porn
stars and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a great
wall to be able to post on and be like, hey, check this
out. So there's I've always had these ideas of kind of like, you
know, path of least resistance to getting out there and getting supposed. You
seem like you went the more difficult way, which is, you know,
on your back surrounded by dudes. What kind of like what kind of anxiety?
Did you have any kind of anxiety jumping into it the first time?
No? Go ahead, sorry no. So weirdly enough, my only anxiety
was so I was always like the really shy, nerdy girl of school,
Like I sat by myself the lunch. So the most anxiety that I had,
like that I had have slashed and porn is I don't know. It's
like going on set not really knowing anybody because I don't live in La but
I'm not out there with people like being in like you know, like the
whole like friend group whatever. So my anxiety was when I felt on set
and I'm just like standing there by myself and already knows everybody. Shane,
you got any questions? Yeah, so you said that you jumped into porn,
you know, like as a springboard for the notoriety, but also to
have like a bunch of cool stories to write about. So are all these
stories are they like intended to be for like an auto biography? Is that
the purpose to have them? Or is it to inspire tons of fiction projects?
Like oh, this was a crazy thing that happened. I could write
a whole book about it. Yeah, so Romance Class Extra. It started
out as an autobiography, but obviously I had like change names, locations,
like, So I've been telling people that although it's meant to be an autobiography,
it's more based on a true story, like real fiction. But that
makes sense. So it's like Texas Chainsaw massacre, Like some parts are like
real, but like there's some stuff. Yes, that's like my favorite movie.
Okay, Halloween, that's my whole sleeve. Yeah, we're we're we're
doing our Halloween specials now we're recording with different people. So let's ask do
you like the original Texas Chainsaw or did you like the Jessica bal One?
Oh? Original Porsure. Original's fine. But we also said, right Shane
during our interview we did the other day with a movie expert, it's a
good remake that Jessica bial One's not a bad one. It's for remake.
It's very good. Yes, yes, for sure. All right. So
the book writing process, now, nothing seems more tedious to me as a
guy behind a microphone than sitting down and writing a book. I know,
I did my research into you. You went to college for journalism, I
believe, right, Yeah, Okay, I started writing when I was like
twelve. You know, I had always been the type that came up with
ideas, and then when it actually came to writing, it seems, like
I said, kind of tedious, like oh, I got to fill this
in, I gotta fill this and can I just tell you in five minutes
what the whole story is? So how do you and I read the first
chapter of your book today. Very hot story to kick it off with.
But how do you jump into writing about these stories? Like? Are you
just being god? I sound like a Neanderthal saying this. Are you just
trying to be as descriptive as you can? Because you actually vote wrote it
very well, Like it wasn't just like a cool line by line account of
like I went to this party, blew the guy and blah blah blah.
It wasn't like a Brady read to immerse themselves. I feel like they're like
they were there. Okay, well I was actually putting myself in a different
role in that position. But uh yeah, I know I could. I
could do that. I could see myself at least on my knees once.
So uh so, when you, you know, you were younger you were
writing, was it always fiction? Were you like taking things in your life
and blowing them up and making them, you know, into full blown stories?
Or what is your favorite kind of thing to write? Like if I
could just put a contract down today and go five book deal whatever Sarah Saint
Clair wants to do, what kind of books would you write right now?
I would definitely keep on doing the whole like erotica, because that's been my
life the last fifteen years almost. But it's garden all off with Like I
love poetry and like short stories, like everyday type things. But yeah,
happened in the corn for so long now I feel like all my stories are
just about Dix. Shane too, which is so it's a lot of fun.
All he does is talk about Dix all the time, comm and everything
else. That's why we started the show. Yeah, yeah, I just
wanted to talk about Dix and common stuff. Shane. You are a reader,
Shane reads a lot more than me by a long stretch. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I listen to books sometimes. That's
the other question. Wait, you can't do that. I can't not even
digital books either, Like you like the paper in hand, like turning the
page. Yeah, I'll say this, nothing's better than the smell of a
new book, right, Yeah, yeah, Shane. Yes, what do
you got for an author? Oh well, well yeah, I was just
listening to all this stuff she was saying there about so writing short fiction and
poetry and stuff like that. If the book becomes a success, Like,
what what is your next project? Like you know, Matt said, like
contract put out there. If you're going to write another erotica, is it
going to be are you going to dive further down the fiction route? I
mean because you said that, or are you going to continue this as a
series like what have you? What have you got land as far as writing.
Yeah, so actually, at the end of Romance ca Sextra, like,
it's not a cliffhanger because I do tie up like all the Blue sends,
but it's definitely open to go on to book number Okay, ideally,
I like how it is a trilogy. Oh okay, yeah, good things
come in threes huh yeah, yeah or five, six, seven eighths and
if you like the kind of porn I enjoy with the with the audio,
with the audio that I know that you don't prefer it. But since it's
an erotic book, you're an erotic writer. Are you going to do the
voice for the digital or the audio version? Yes? Eventually my co writer
really wanted me to have the the audible done by time we released the book
on Amazon. But fun story, I grew up with a really really really
bad stutter. So the idea of like sitting down and like recording my voice
like reading my book just sounds overwhelming, but it is on the to do
list hopefully the next few months. You know what you do. I haven't
seen this yet. I would record it and not put it up on Amazon.
Can you put it on like your only fans or something like that as
an additional audio messages? Yeah? No, So I actually wanted to do
that, and I ran it by a few people and everyone's like, no,
people are your only fans? Aren't aren't there to listen to you read
a book? You know what? Actually? But I had though, yeah,
yeah, you know what? Though, I mean I would say that
about something like a JOI and yet there's millions of dollars being pumped into only
fans every day for JOI videos. It's like, oh, I need to
see the tits or a cock and ball torture. You know, who wants
their dick all smashed up? But people pay for it? Yeah, I
don't know. That might be interesting. It's a fun little marketing angle.
So we we've interviewed a lot of girls nowadays, and it seems like the
biggest thing is marketing. And you've done a great job of marking yourself.
But when did you really pick up steam? Was there a specific scene you
did or something like that when you notice like jumps and followers or was it
just constant grinding? Was it a slow you know? Ten ten, ten,
ten, ten new followers, fifteen new follower Okay, yeah, now
it's been us slow build up. But yeah, like every time I released
a new mainstream scene, there's more. But like I said, I don't
live in La so I really only shoot big scenes like once or twice a
year. Really, Oh, that's you know, because that's why that's why
I've been in the industry since twenty sixteen. But like my credit lis is
about that bear. Oh yeah, I did notice that. But you have
tons of content out there, so we'll jump back in the book stuff for
a second. I gotta like, you know, keep the fans turned on
somewhat, So do you mostly shoot OnlyFans content? Then? Okay, all
right, and what sets your only fans apart? Well, it has Sarah
Saint Claire obviously, but how often are you updating what kind of stuff is
actually on there? And by the way, if you folks want to check
out her only fans, don't forget it's Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Yes,
So mine is like I know, a lot of girls like they're really fancy
lighting, like really fancy videos. Mine is am it like like a lot
of pro am like stuff that I shoot at home on my phone, like
you know, having fun in real life. So my only fans is real
life Sarah that see. I prefer that. I I told you. When
I'm watching porn, I like it has to be like am like the pro
am, like like a husband and wife clearly shot this in their bedroom just
being kinky one night. Like That's why I need to get off because otherwise
I'm like, hey, know that dick, I know that couch, I
have those panties. We interviewed Catherine Knight the other day and she was awesome
interviewed to talk to And what was fun about her though, is she's the
total opposite. It seems like she's all like hyper auction. It's like,
if we don't have a ten thousand dollars lighting rig, I ain't taking my
top off, which is great. People love that and it's obviously successful.
Me I need to hear like unlicensed Metallica in the background at a glory hole.
Terrible lighting. You know that's just what I like personally. Yeah,
it's real. I like that, and that's what's great. There's a world,
you know, for anybody, any kind of fetish, any kind of
whatever, and bornt. There's always something you know, all right, So
can you tell us what let's compare and contrast do you have in this book?
Because again I haven't gotten a chance to finish it. I will check
it out. Make sure you check out as well. Romance Cross Extra available
on Amazon. Now, do you tell like your wildest real life sex story
in there? Or is that saving it for the trilogy? Okay? What
was that and what happened? Let's all right? Okay, I see you're
reluctant. Here's the thing, maybe not your wildest one. How about you
tell us your third wildest one. Here's the thing. Everyone's going to buy
your book. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not gonna be the wildest one,
but probably most like so like as far as like wildest sex scene,
no that's not in there, but like the wildest scenario of said sex scene
is my favorite. I met this guy a while ago and we started hooking
up whatever, and this would be I don't know. I was smell over
in the morning when his wife went to work, and then one day he'd
be like, so, I won't have a threesome, but you can't tell
her that I hired you. I can ask for it to say that we
met on like golfriends find we're looking for like a threesome. I'm like,
okay, just whatever. So have three sims with him and his wife and
don't hear from him for a while. Turns out he went to prison for
some white collar shit like so never saw them. She actually divorces out while
he was in jail. I thought it was going to take a twist.
I thought you were going to still show up the next day after he went
to prison and you go to the wife. You're like, let's go at
it. Come on, I'll keep you good. You're my boo for the
next five years. So fast forward about eight years later. I started hooking
up with this dude and I meet him. I meet him through a mutual
friend. So mutual friend and I are talking and like, yeah, like
Brett's wife he talks about all the time, and our mutual friend starts telling
me about her. I'm like, wait, wait, was she married to
so and so and used to live in ex City? And he's like,
yes, this woman who I had three soons with with her husband is now
married to another client, but he hasn't asked to set up a threesome yet,
has he? Oh? I always said your I'm like, like,
he should bring your life over someday she would like it, and he doesn't.
Does it not that that she's been wild? He's like, I don't.
I don't know if she'd be into that. She's she's kind of shy
and on the reserve side. I'm thinking, sir, that's true wife and
the ass of the strap on. So I can't tell him that though,
well you could, but I mean you certainly could. Yeah, it would
be too weird for him to know that. All right, look at you
keeping secrets? Wow? Yeah, yeah you do. All right. I
would have wrote an anonymous letter. I always wrote a book about it.
Here's my question, and this is not meant to criticize whatsoever. I'm just
asking from a level of stupidity and ignorance. All right, is there a
companion escort code in terms of privacy? And does your book? I don't
think it does, but maybe does your book kind of break that code a
little bit? No? Because and that's why I had to stop calling it
an autoiography because so much was changed in it to protect names and everything.
That sure, So is that the code? Then? Is it like,
hey, you're paying partially for your time and then partially for I'm not gonna
say nothing for me to shut the fuck up. Yeah, So what do
you think of girls who do come out and say stuff? I know I've
read you're big sports fan. I don't know if I know you. You
like the Saints? Right, this was an old interview I read. Okay,
so same town. How do you feel about Zion Williamson and the OnlyFans
performer he was with coming out and spilling the beans on everything that shick lost
her damn mind. Like all of us were like scrolling through three base What
is this girl doing? Like she's breaking every code? Like, yeah,
not a good book. So there is a well, and I don't mean
this in a derogatory way like a bro code. There's like a hoe code
too, right, yeah, oh for sure? All right, that's fun
without naming any name, are divulging anything? Do you have like a do
you have like a client list like an A TI or B TRE Do you
have like certain clients? I mean, obviously you're going to prioritize because of
their spending habits or whatever. But do you have any that are like VIPs?
You know, maybe like a handful that are like my favorites, like
I would consider like real life friends and and do any of them, you
know, like we were just talking about this that woman. What's that guy's
name, Zion Zion Williamson, Yeah, Williamson. Do you have any that
are like, you know, draft picks or yeah, round of the NFL
draft? Are your guys coming from generally the last she gets a lot of
kickers and punters swinging by now. To be honest, though, and again
you don't have to divulge names. We've gotten some fun names off. I'm
sorry, go ahead, go ahead. Oh no, like on that topic
though, like like I don't think you want like those like super super big
name type people though, just because it seems so stressful, like they could
have like their pick of whatever. So you have to perform like extra extra
extra good, Like I don't know, I don't know how to just take
Bob from hr who's just excited to hang out with me. You know what,
though I've seen you you're a hell of a performer, and I think
if you want to go up that next level. I think you can do
it. I think you can grab at least the second round pick in the
NBA draft, maybe a lottery guy down the line, for sure. That's
a pretty big compliment. Now the question is going back to the porn side
real quick. How do I say this nicely? Are you a size queen?
Could you take some of these lottery picks? Okay? Okay, oh
yeah, what do you think the biggest guy you've ever been with is size
wise? Dread? Oh? Okay everyone? I mean yeah, gets bigger
than that. Yeah, yeah, you put Dread into Twitter. Now.
I always wonder, though, is that a burden being a gentleman like that,
you know, with a kickstand dick. I don't know, it's not,
No, I don't think so. I mean it's like, like,
what girl's going to break up with a guy because his dick's too big?
You know, like she's not going to be able to live that down because
there's going to be one friend in the friend group who's definitely got a husband
whose dick doesn't even work, you know, and it's like, you know,
you've been talking to my wife Okay, yeah you know, yeah,
yeah, yeah, she she could never live it down. You know she
sent dread packet. You know she could find another reason blame it on that,
But no one would admit to not wanting to have a eighteen inch Oh
oh okay, I disagree, thank you, I do too, right,
Sarah? Tell him why we agree on this one? So yeah, like
I'm a side sweened and like for just like fucking around for like a night
or two. Yeah, please like restroy me. But if we're dating,
I donot want that every night. Like boyfriend Dick is like seven eight inches,
like big solid, But do you think over that one is like big
big, You don't want that every night? At that point you're gonna be
torn, it's gonna hurt. Well, he doesn't have to put the whole
thing in, does he? Like? What if it's like a thirteen?
But goes to me where I say, is that a burden for him?
Because I mean, you're not going down to the hilt every time? You
don't need to. I mean when you jack off to you, do you
do you use the whole into my pubis? Yeah? Really yeah that sounds
thankful. I just concentrate on the tip man. I just kind of like
squeeze it and need it like a roll of pizza. Though I like squeezing
it real hard until it turns purple and then I flick it, yeah,
till it explodes like a volcano. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But
I agree, I agree with Sarah kind of. I don't know, like
we all would want a chick who's like, you know, a real nympho
and like, oh I want to fuck all the time, blah blah blah.
But for a girlfriend sometimes it's like, oh, we got to do
dinner with my mother and she's like, well, just let me blow you
four times before we go there. I feel the same way if I was
a chick. Yeah, it would be great to have a guy who just
you know, sends you to the frozen food aisle to tape something to yourself.
But at the end of the day, like, do I want that
all the time? Especially with a guy with a dick that big, you
have to have a killer sex drive, so he's gonna want it all the
time. And then you're beat up all the time and you're doing that cool
thing they do in porn where you put it up against your forearm and you're
like, yeah, you get battered. Wives syndrome yeah, back to the
book real quick. How did you the book? Of course, obviously Romance
Costs Extra available now on Amazon by missing Sarah Saint Claire. How did you
sort through and determine which ones to put in this what to save for the
next one? You know, like, if you have twenty stories in this,
how many of those are a pluses? And how many did you throw
in a couple c pluses with like fun entertaining stuff, and then what are
you gonna carry over? Because me, I always think of musical artists when
their first big, first hit album has all the hits on it, and
you're like, oh, they've been saving that all their life for that,
and then the second album stinks because they're writing about being on private jets.
So how do you how do you reconcile that in terms of what to put
and what not to put? So Book one honestly mainly a while hooking and
I have it set up so at the end of Romances strap im sorry,
my dog's getting into god knows what. So the end is set up where
I'm packing up and going to LA to start doing porn. So then books
she was mainly going to be about porn, and like hooking some things that
I met through doing porn and yeah, all right, so you have your
arc already designed now, but then what's book three? Is that written?
Is that like Godfather three? Do you read that forty years from now when
you retire? Yes? Actually I wanted to book book number three to took
to be about retirement. Wow. Now right, that's interesting. So how
far are you from retirement? Please don't say anywhere near soon? No?
No, actually, I actually it took eight month hiatus this year because I
was trying to do the whole trophy girlfriend thing and what's u U? But
that? Okay, so what was the trophy girlfriend? Now? Did you
have to did you take a hiatus from everything or just shooting porn? Wow?
So did that? Did you intend on that only being eight months a
year or did it fizzle out? Unfortunately? M boys lie, yeah,
we do do that, cheater, Yeah, yes, oh I know.
It's just like one of those universal laws like gravity. M yeah. But
uh, the the thing about changing, you know, like your whole lifestyle,
like you're shooting on your own, you're doing scenes, and then to
change it all for a person, like what was that like were you were
you working in McDonald's or like, what what did you do for those eight
months? So I was doing just OnlyFans, like all the solo stuff and
everything. So he wasn't like a complete square. I met him via work,
so he was kind of taking care of me, got it? God?
Okay, I see, I was thinking more along the lines. It
was one of these We talked to several people who have you know, told
us that they they've tried to give it up for a relationship all porn and
it's like some sort of morality thing, you know, and it's like it
never works. It's like if you're changing your yourself for your partner right at
the beginning. Oh, like I have to go bored too, because like
this since I was eighteen years old in some way, shape or form,
So like, I don't know, trying to give it up, it's like
I was giving up like a whole part of who I am as a person
at this point. Yeah, definitely. So was it for love or was
it just that you would be taken care of? Both? Okay, Okay,
how many zeros do I need in my bank account to wife up?
Sarah Saint Clair. I guess it's more also a balancing act. Of how
many inches I would need in my pants, and I don't qualify with that,
So how many more? Seven? Eight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
I told you I don't qualify in that. So where are we getting
up to? What is a lifestyle where you are comfortable stepping away from porn?
Is this just a job for you I have Obviously you said you were
bored, But we've talked to a lot of pros, and we talked to
a lot of new girls. We do a whole Jesus Christ that shot.
My goodness. We talked to a lot of new girls who are like gung
ho, like, oh my god, I just want this, I want
to dick, I want money, blah blah blah bah. And then we
talked to girls who've been in the industry for a long time who seem like
maybe they've had their fill of dick and they're just like, hey man,
whatever takes me in the next level. Let me ask you, what does
it take to come for someone to come into your life and sweep you off
the feet to the point where you're like, I don't really want to do
porn anymore. Does it have to be good looking guy, money and a
good enough sex drive where you're not like craving it elsewhere. That's actually a
question I can ask myself lately, because you know, coming out of the
relationship, it's like, okay, so what do I really really want?
So honestly, I don't think there's anybody except for one person who can get
me to stop doing this at this point. Really, who's that? Do
we know that Leon Williamson is the main character in my book? Oh?
Okay, okay, aren't you the main character in your book? Like I
said, I only saw the the main my main love interest. Okay,
fair enough, fair enough, And Brian the aerahalls for it because she's the
dumbass. Now, okay, but you you recognize that maybe it's not a
good situation for you. But then why why does it draw you back in?
Is that just what love is? Yeah? I said, probably something
that you want so bad but you can't have it? Okay, all right,
now, going back to what we were joking about before, how I
want to start asking all of the girls this, Shane, because I find
it so interesting how many athletes are currently in your d MS any at all?
Do you think mmmm, at the moment, there's a rock star and
a DJ in my ideas. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I
always pick athletes because it generally represents the kind of porn I like, so,
uh no, the athlete thing, it goes through through cycles. Really,
what are the cycles on that? A lot of it is like I'd
be an extra cleat chaser. I'll be like, ah, Saints, that's
fucking whoever, right, But like I'll like all of them and then eventually
one is going to see it and slide of the dems. Okay, that's
fair enough. Do you have any other ambitions for any other types of books
in the future, Like, do you ever want to write I don't know,
a sci fi or a mystery or whatever. No, that shit's boring,
right, doesn't that shit kind of seem boring? Like you're writing a
story this guy got I just want to be like this guy got stabbed.
A bunch of people questioned it. Then it was the butler and you're like,
there you go. One page is my book right there? And the
butler killed them. No, So I definitely see myself always writing some form
of erotica. But one project that I've had in my brain for a very
very long time is and I need to take like a good creative writing course
to be able to do this. But I want to write a book about
all the pets that live in a whorehouse like Madam runs the player. A
bunch of cross tubes that live there, and they all have like their little
animals. There's Pierre, the parrot pimp. He yells at everybody Greek clocks
like a children's book exactly, but like a slutty children's book, who just
gives like really aggressive side eye to every John that walks through the door.
And then all the little rat friends who talk shit like, oh there's that
guy who wants to side up a weirdo. Oh my god, can I
tell you how much I couldn't keep my dick hard If I walked in and
there was a cat and a parrot and a bunch of rats and rat room,
I'd be like, yo, this chick needs to do some kind of
tongue swirl because my dick ain't gonna work with this zoo looking at me.
Okay, we go to my car. Actually, it would be funny if
she went completely nuts though. If we were talking about, like, do
you have any other ambitions? And Sarah was like, well, okay,
you guys know scientology, right, like yeah, and she's like twenty eight
book ida I have here, and it's about a different kind of alien creature,
Like oh boy, okay, go on, go on, dianetics.
We got trianetics. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's sitting
here and she's too hot for us to be like, oh this sounds crazy.
Just so you know, it's funny you said that there is a market
I feel like for adult children's books. You had that same Jackson one a
few years ago, Go the fuck to Sleep. My friend Vicky actually wrote
a Yeah. Yeah, my friend Vicky wrote a book called B is for
Blunkin And it's an ab season. It's good, right, it's a funny
idea, it's a it's a picture book, but it's all it's all just
you know, you know what N was for necrophilia and uh oh yeah that
one was funny. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they were all good.
So has this always been your personality? Like you're all in on erotica
now, and you said you were shy grown up, but what was your
sexual one eighty in life? Where was it you were shy girl? And
then and did that factor into your I don't want to say sexual revolution,
because that sounds like I'm to Awakening for six Awakening is yeah, that sounds
corny too, but I agree with you. Was there something where you went
from like me, what was the movie She's All that? Where you went
from kind of like, you know, nerdy, shy girl and then you
turn around and it's like, wow, Sarah's fucking sexy and when should take
your glasses off? No, So I guess my thing was once I realized
that sex would be lucrative, make money, get myself places, I was
like, Okay, we can probably do this. And even like when I
first started like stripping and stuff, I was still kind of shy girl.
But then eventually I don't know, I wish I had the I wish I
can give you a story of some monumental moment, but at some point I
just like fucking stopped hearing. Well, it's like social media. It was
gradual for you then, huh it was just yeah? And and was there
anxiety at each new plateau at all? Or were you just like, well,
I've come this far, keep climbing. Yeah, Like because it's like
it was like baby step, babystap, baby steps, So it was never
like just like well, I'm scareduble because it's like, okay, like like
I started doing nude modeling, then I was doing tied up modeling, then
I was doing tied up on video, so like it's only just like a
little bit different each time. Yeah, but then you go from Yeah,
if you look at a timeline and shorter increments, yes, it seems like
that. But if I were to look at the timeline of you on a
larger increment, it would go she did nude modeling, and then jump ahead
seven guy gangbang for here. What's the uh, what's the most anxiety you
ever had going into a scene? Let me ask? That was something like,
let me tell you that was ten dudes. He let me tell you.
I have a wife. She's gorgeous. I get laid. It's no
problem. But I am somewhat of a pornography connoisseur. Texas Bukkaki is the
site that we got probably our best friend off of this show. She's an
only fans performer. She doesn't want to go mainstream, but she shot four
scenes of Texas Bukkaki kat Karma or gasmic love her to death. Those,
to me are actually prime example of what I was talking about before where you
have like family guy playing in the background and you're like, oh, I
don't think Fox licensed that out to these guys, so it feels more real
and that Yeah. No, And that was the most low end thing ever
too, Like I flew into Dallas and there's ten dudes in one hotel room.
It was a high at players. Yeah, yeah, and they don't
exactly bust out the suits for you. It looked like and let me tell
you where there's ten people in a small hotel room and you look at it
like, oh wow, I was pack. You're like, whoa, I'm
going to fuck all of these people? Oh my god. That that was
an anxious moment. That was a oh when I get myself into I think
I've bit off more than I could chew. I'm totally fucking intended. But
no, you did it though, I mean you came out the other end,
So does that give you confidence then? Like I'll see. I was
gonna say I would think the more intimidating scene and this is totally positive stereotypes,
but you shot with the unfortunately named dogfart dot Com and that scene looked
intense to me because yeah, your Texas bukank was more guys, I believe,
but I mean size comparison between the two. Yeah. Yeah. There
was one where it felt like I was like, Oh, she's really having
a good time in this gang bang. And there was one where I was
like, oh, she's sitting on frozen peas on the way home. Oh
yes, yeah, like halfway the halfway to that scene, I'm like,
how the fuck am I going to keep doing this? I am hurting my
buttle, cannot take any more big black jack of side and I'm gonna cry.
But she was only half done, and I don't know. I like
to say I can do anything for an hour, likes crazy shit. Ever
it's only an hour, I can do it. So that's kind of like
the metality is Okay, we're aready halfway done. You can do it.
That text like oh go ahead. Sorry. It's like getting on a roller
coaster, right, like you know, you're all amped up and then like
you're once you're strapped in, Like the anxiety can build and build, yeah,
Like it can build up as much as you want it, like let
it go as high as it can possibly go while you're going up that hill,
you know, but you can't get off and like you're just along for
the ride, you know, you kind of just don't have a choice but
to get through it, right exactly. Yeah, it's like it's like we've
been on set all day, like we've got to push here at the end
of the scene and we get to go home. So that'd be funny the
idea of you rallying cry the team, like guys are dehydrated, they're tired,
the dicks are a little limp, Like, gentlemen, we need a
real any given Sunday speech. We need to get these dicks up. We
need to finish this scene. The lighting is set. We will get in
history. Oh man, I loved Texas Bukocky, and then they got like
sold to like a foreign thing. And it went from like kind of no
name or names you would know sometimes that Sarah Saint Clair would pop up on
their Trinity Saint Clair. They only got Saint Clair's apparently great family line and
uh. And then it went from that to like they got bought out I
think by like an overseas company. So it was like Olga and Helga get
gangbanged, and you're like, oh, that's it's not the same. It's
not that dingy little Texas Hotel room exactly. Uh yeah, I like to
see more of that in porn now that you just mentioned that the Saint Clair's
like, I I'd like to see more team ups like with the similarly names.
Yeah oh yeah, like no, Like you know how drag queens have
like houses like that, the House of the Donda or whatever, and it's
like all the queens from that line that that house will have the same last
name. Yeah, we should do that with porn. Y good idea.
I think you're on some they've had. I mean they've had how many different
TV shows. I think ex Hamster had one for a while where it was
like a reality show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tried to
do one. It was yeah. Yeah. You know what though, there's
potential for me to like that, and I just they never nail it for
me for some reason. You know who does it right is the Europeans.
The Europeans shoot that shit properly. I don't understand most of the stuff they're
saying because they don't usually upload subtitles, but yeah, the European and the
European like porn game shows rule where it's like they'll have like some dude and
he'll like have like four naked women in front of them, and then he'll
like rate their naked bodies, but they're always really respectful in Europe how they
do it, and he'll like pick the one based on her nude appearance that
he wants to date, and then he has to get naked and then she'll
be like, well you know what I would dick. Yeah, yeah,
sometimes it happens, you know, it rules, Yeah, that's love it,
that's interesting. I don't know, I like I like we talked about
a few times already. I like that. Not dingy, not degrading,
but just kind of like, you know, this guy bought the most expensive
equipment he could afford and is now shooting it kind of like half cocked in
a hotel room. I just love that. That is good stuff. That
is good. I'll tell you I got my porn man. Yeah. Oh
yeah, your your wife. Oh I thought you were plugging your wife for
a second there. Well, I mean I can, but I'm saying,
like, I mean, that's what you like. That's what my shit looks
like. It's bad, Okay, I don't know mine too. I feel
that, but you know what your fans are all about it And let me
ask you only shoot like two major scenes a year, you say, or
with major companies. We've talked to a lot of professional girls who it seems
like that's not not the amount of time. But that's the thing you're seen
at, Brad. You're seeing a team skeet whatever it is. That's an
advertisement for your only fans. Is that how you treat that? Yeah,
because every time that they promote that on Twitter, Instagram, whatever, don't
have my little handle and then the fans are going to see my handle click
on it and then boom, that's what the follower for Sarah. That's another
only fan subscription. Yeah, there you go. We play a little game
on this show, and I want to run it by you here. It's
called Sack And this originally started when we interviewed Sarah j and Sarah Jay has
been offered tens of thousands of dollars for her first anal scene and she just
won't do it. There's just not what she's into. She doesn't like it,
she doesn't like the idea of it. I don't know if she doesn't
like her brand being represented that way or if she just doesn't like it in
general. So we play a game called sack and what that stands for is
shit, animals and kids sak because we got the idea to start asking is
there anything And then the inverse of this question as well, is there anything
that you wantn't do on camera regardless of the amount of money that has been
put forth? And then the opposite is is there any type of genre or
scene or anything like that, or a performer you want to work with where
your normal rate is here and you're willing to take a little bit of a
discount because you just love doing this type of thing so much. So the
reason we call it tac is is because don't say shit, animal or kids.
A lot of the first girls we would interview, I would go,
so what you know, what is something you wouldn't do? And they're like,
well, I wouldn't like fuck a kid. And we'd be like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, you know, yeah, you
got to get off the zoom if you would, you know, be like,
well'd fuck a kid for ten grand? So what is something You're just
absolutely like, that's not my type of thing either. I don't want my
brand represented that way. I don't want to do that where even if they
hit you with a high end dollar amount, you're still just kind of like,
nah, not my thing. Wow, I grew up really fucking poor.
So anything that can be bought for the right price. Oh boy,
that sounds like an endorsement for shit animals and kids. No, no,
no, no, now I need to tap my four oh one k though
for a loan. There's no price too high, all right? And then
what is the opposite? So is there any type of scene, any genre
of seeing a cocky, a gang bang, a solo with one specific performer?
What is something where? Where? Where is the number set for you
in your normal rates? And they go, we only have enough production budget
for this here, and you'd still be like, yeah, I'll do that.
I like that kind of thing. Good question. I have yet to
shoot for kink so or like any any type of site like that. So
yeah, I would shoot for next to nothing if I'm going to be like
tied up, put the shit beat out of you, not not next to
nothing kink. Just so you know, you still have to pay this girl.
Okay, she is a performer. She'll take a discount for you that.
Yeah. Yeah, here's a kink shirt for you and some soap.
They have really weird merch here's a stuffed animal. What. Yeah, yeah,
here's a gift card to Cracker Barrel. Yeah. Uh okay, all
right, that's interesting. So what do we have on the horizon. Have
you set any goals for yourself porn wise and then also writing wise, Well,
let's do porn first. Have you set any goals for yourself where you're
like, I want to shoot this type of scene or is there anything you
haven't done yet besides kink dot com or or any of those. Is there
anything you haven't done yet? Or have you set a future date for a
kink or a bondage scene or something like that where you go, I need
this by then, because that's my next goal that I'm working towards. Unfortunately,
I'm a lazy human. I am not. You're not lazy. You
can pretend to be lazy. You wrote a book like you're You're better than
ninety eight percent of Americans. Honestly, Like, my main goal is just
to get back in the swing of like porn again and like start shooting more
regularly, and I don't know, maybe take my only fans a little bit
more seriously and just I don't know, like get back to being an active
performer, because honestly, I've been out of it for a hot minute.
So just I'm actually going to Veguas next month for or just a month rather
or three scenes, and I'm gonna try to shoot some professional level content while
I'm out there, and you know, just get the ball moving, get
back to being like a porn stargon. There you go, that's the one,
that's what you are, Shane. Do you want to hit Sarah with
your question that you Oh yeah, we hadn't even touched on that and it
didn't come up. Yeah, like, how do you feel about piss?
Oh? I love Golden Showers? Hey, good answer. Yes's a big
fan. All right, Shane. Do you have any other questions? I'm
sorry I dominated most of this. Oh no, I like to I got
to ask a lot of good book questions. Who's your favorite author? Oh?
Ernest bay By? Finally? And I love that? Yeah. Yeah,
I've only read Farewell to Arms and I didn't understand a lot of the
words. That's sir, ladies and gentlemen, we had on with us today.
Sarah Saint Clair. Make sure you go to her Twitter and her only
fans at Sarah Saint Clair xxx. Remember links to everything is going to be
in the episode description, and go pay for it. We always advocate pay
for your born. These are performers, they're workers, you know, do
it. Don't be a dick. Maybe even swing by the Amazon wish list
because you're gonna be on Amazon when you're purchasing her new book, Romance Costs
Extra by Sarah Saint Clair. Uh. You know, it was wonderful talking
to you today. Really loved having you, Sarah. Is there anything else?
Shane? No, I'm glad that she answered, like an a notable
author, but like, who's your favorite lesser known author, Who's somebody weird
you like that? Nobody would know you like to read? Don't say Sylvia
Plath. But that was literally the first and that popped in my head.
I'm sorry. I was like, don't say it, don't say it,
don't say it. All right, all right, I know everything I need
to know. That sounds that sounded judgmental. Sarah, You've been wonderful to
talk today. Thank you very much for coming on with us. Thank you
so much for your worst friend going deeper. I met, I'm Shae.
Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Yeah,