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your support and enjoy. Is there any update? Yeah? No, no,
no, it should be soon, very soon. Are you sure?
Well? I don't know the the time schedule. Rose said she was,
she had a contact, So as soon as we can get those ideas,
we'll move forward. But it should be soon. And I look down at
a little communication device and the screen is still blank. Yes, soon.
I have to impress upon you how urgent this is. Oh, I understand.
I know. Hopefully we can move it without there being any trouble,
but that's why we're not going to be traveling together. We have our rendezvous.
Yes, yes, if they agreed upon time as well well, and
we cannot miss that time. Are you worried? Of course? I am.
Well, that's good, that's prudent. But I think we're going to
be okay. Still, and I pull it out again and take a look.
Should have hurt something by now, but I'm sure you know Rose is
incredibly clever, very smart. I'm sure whatever obstacles come her way, she
would have dealt with it. Now, if we could, let's go over
a few details, shall we please. We will be rendezvousing on the west
coast. There is a vessel that will be able to transport us. The
travel time shouldn't be too difficult. However, again I must stress that we
will what we will be taking with us. Well, you know how dangerous
it is. Yes, I am aware if at that point, if worse
comes the worst, we might have to dump it. But I don't want
it to come to that. I don't know what that will do, short
term or long term. It's always been my opinion that it should be destroyed.
I don't disagree with that, but my concern is what happens if it
is made again. The night Owl is nothing to be trifled with. The
technology has been done, it can be done again. Being prepared for the
eventuality that someone else can make it. That's what we have to do.
And that's the only reason that I didn't destroy it. And I appreciate that
very much. Appreciate I've been able to lean on you. It has been
jarring, to say the least. You've made your worth a parent. You
are competent and understanding. Well, I've lived a long life, most of
it at Tyrell, but a long life. You see enough. People come
and go make mistakes. Hey, you can learn from your mistakes, but
you can learn from others just as easily. You just have to be aware
of the mistake and how to avoid it. That takes a long time and
a lot of wisdom. I don't know if I'll ever have that time.
Yes, I know, I'm sorry. Why that is an excellent question because
there's nothing I can do and I wish to. I feel a burden of
responsibility without any way of helping you. Sort of human nature. I've never
understood that term human nature. What is to misunderstand? People use this word
a commonality, but every human that I've seen or heard about, I can't
find a commonality. Well, it's there, it's just not obvious. People
a humanity. It's more a river than a stone. It's flowing, it
changes, it rises and falls. It's not stagnant. It's not one thing
I know that doesn't help much. But that's a paradox. I suppose people
are both a good representation of people and a bad one at the same time.
We are unique, but we're the same. It's terrible. You receive
a text. Oh, oh excellent, it reads Rose is dead. This
is a trap. Get out now. Oh you have to go. We
have to go. Roses died. Okay, ah ah, this is fast
in their hands in the fucking air, lapd Do not move. I swear
I will shoot if you move a muscle. Okay, yes, hands up?
Which is it hands in the air or don't move a muscles? Please
pulse. Just put your hands up. Put your hands in the goddamn air.
Yeah, what he said? Okay, nope, no weapons, you
can see no turn around, face away from me slowly, okay, yeah,
clear, hands on the back of your head, slowly where we can
see him, down on your knees. Okay, could you help a little
please, I'm complying. I just need a moment, please, I'm moving
in. Is there anybody else in this apartment? No, it's just us.
Take us some It looks clear. I shoot. I roughly grab Sagan
prefl I'm sorry, boss, had a very very long day here, Natalie.
How are you faring fine? Good? Good good. It's a good
day for us. Okay, And why is why is that? Do you
think well that you brought in quite a number of people from the replicant underground.
Correct, M that's a good thing, right, it is, narrator.
Can I ask a question? Absolutely now, Natalie was not on this
list, Am I correct? That is correct? Natalie was not on his
list. This was for refresher. This was a list that was provided by
Rose Sawyer's contact. We'll leave it at that, will be kind and say
that the people on this list were supposed to get new ideas. That was
the deal that Sawyer had kind of pressured Rose into providing the list of names
so that he could help get them out and get them to safety a new
identification. Okay, sorry, do you have any questions. I think as
we've been talking, I've been just fiddling around with this communication device that we
took from the apartment, one of the apartments to be rated today, and
I think that the device is probably stained with blood and dirt. Maybe it's
a little damaged. I think. I just very slowly put it down on
the table as I make eye contact with Natalie and saying it's come to our
attention that the department has a lot more leaks in it than we previously thought.
Okay, and Natalie I think that you are one of our best security
specialists right now. M okay, okay, okay, So I think we're
going to put you hard to work and resolving these breaches, identifying them for
us. Okay, understood, Okay, I can do that. Had any
time to work on that other project we talked about tracking down? Yes that
supervisor, Yes, yes, yes, I did. Here is the information.
I assume that's what you wanted to talk about when you called me in
here. Is there a reason that we're in an entire room? Is that
just to intimidate me? Well, considering all of the breaches, I think
at securities of the utmost importance. And this is one of the buildings,
and well one of the rooms in this building that I can guarantee is not
currently under external surveillance. Oh okay, all right, that's fine, Okay,
Yeah, here is the information that I found I should okay, great,
Yeah, And I slide over a file that gives us information on this
previous individual and you can look over it. But I'm also going to explain
it to you, okay, so as you will see there, and I
should have you know, Sawyer, I did look this up on my terminal,
so we may want to pay attention to see if anybody is trying to
access my terminal in the next hour. Now that I'm away and now talking
to you, what I did find was extremely uncomfortable. It looks like that
this individual does not have at least for what I can see. Obviously,
we have the blackout to worry about, but even outside of the blackout,
I'm not seeing any information on this individual. It's almost as if they had
they have no family, they have Oh what is happening now? Right?
Oh? Oh dear, we're we here? Did we just re here?
Yeah? We just went down? I think are we back up? I
think we are? Okay we are? Oh my god, I'm fucking internet.
Sorry, Okay, yes, if at least it gets my heart right
up. Okay, it's accurate method. Okay, Well, it's almost as
if this person it doesn't exist anymore. But I also wonder if they ever
did. Now look at this so here, I've checked to see if they
have any insurance policies active. That would be one of the first things I
would do, right, I would make sure all that stuff was up to
date. We sent out several notices about making sure that you've got your memorial,
all that kind of stuff set up nothing for this person whatsoever. We
were sending them a retirement package right up until about nine months ago. Suddenly
the retirement package stops. Now, it could be that it got sent to
a different bank, but it's almost like that money wasn't even real, or
essentially the person wasn't even real, and they kept it just long enough so
that people would turn over, right so that we'd have new HR, new
accountant, people working here and no one would be looking anymore. Now that
tells me two things. The first is either someone high above that is paying
attention to whoho is here and who is no longer here. Noticed that the
last known individual that was working in HR that was around when this person was
manager left nine months ago. Huh, So that means either they did it,
But I don't think so. The ability to change this or to stop
payment like this, I think it's more that it's higher up than this.
Somebody above me, above you, above you Sawyer, and above the accounting
or HR was able to change this. It's almost as if they knew this
was going to happen, and they knew when this person was leaving, and
they knew when no one would be looking anymore or remember I take off my
glasses and I kind of wipe them down, and I am taking Natalie seriously.
Yeah, and I say, that's some damn good detective work. Do
you have any think youre assumptions about who might be higher up here? And
I look around, I'm very, very nervous who might be around? I
look to the glass wall where usually there's somebody standing behind. Is there or
it's just us? Correct, it's just us. I lean forward and lower
my voice. I don't like the implication. It would imply that it is
somebody of Holden standing or higher. Okay, I don't know if it's I
don't know if it's Holden because he's moved, he got promoted just recently.
But maybe he had maybe as a blade runner, he had access to things.
I don't know, what do you have. You'd have to figure out
what you have access to, Selma, And if you do have access in
the ability to change it, then it could potentially be Holden, but it
might be higher than that, it might be Chief. And that is terrifying.
I mean, even what you're saying right now, yeah, it is
not right. That's that's terrifying. Enough to be saying that, Okay,
this is It does back up Sawyer's point of being more than one mole,
because whoever is sending that information to Tyrell and I don't believe it's Sawyer anymore.
And what I would do if it were me, I would have pit
us against each other immediately. Also, So if it is, if it
is the there is a mole for Tyrell, doesn't matter. There is somebody
in here doing something strange that is aware. I think there might be two,
if not more, of these different different stations. And where is this
money going? Where did this money get really allocated to? Right? Because
all of a sudden, what we have an extra, you know, this
amount extra. We should try to see if we can get into accounting and
figure out what that is. But I didn't want to hack into our own
system and you know, alert anyone. But if that is what you want
me to try to do, I can do that. But I just wanted
to give you the information first, just to clarify. Are we talking about
Sam Harcrow at the moment, No, we're talking Yes, that's right,
my old name, our old manager. Yep, yes, understood, Okay,
I just had to double check. Well, if you're offering, you
know, we could certainly use that kind of help, but also you'd be
endangering yourself and Natalie. I gotta be honest with you. I'm not sure
I entirely trust you, but what you've just provided system very good information,
so it's it's very serious no matter what it is. I I don't entirely
feel comfortable with the idea that Tyrell might be controlling the LAPD. To be
honest, I don't like the fact that anybody could be controlling the LAPD besides
the goddamn LAPD. But unfortunately that's not been true for some time. Either.
Listen, do what you can, okay, with within your own safety.
Okay. Can I say one another, don't put yourself at risk?
Okay? Sorry, I just want to say one other thing. I did
care about the skiff, but I assume you did too. I did.
But when we learned the truth about people and when they make the decisions we
wouldn't normally make. Maybe come back. Oh no, not again, hold
hold brothers whole. I don't know why this is happening. I'm sorry,
guys. There's nothing I can do about the internet. Though. Wait,
I can see you. I think we're bad. Oh, actually, maybe
I don't know. I think I know exactly what is happening. Hold on,
we're back. We're back, We're back, We're back. Okay,
we're back. Mmm. Just give me one second, viewers here, I'm
gonna try to see if I can figure out what's going on. Nope,
I don't know why it's doing it. It's just the internet, Okay,
just the Internet. Oh yeah, I I I know that. Uh.
I cared about Skiff. I know you cared about Skiff. But when we
when they make decisions that we're not expecting, you know, after a grieving
period, we can change our mind. So I would just ask that you
consider that change my mind about Yes, I mean, you know, he's
not who we thought he was, That's all I meant. And what is
he exactly? Now? Natalie, how would you describe him going against the
law? I'd go a little stronger. Terrorist sympathizer is probably where i'd start.
Uh why do you say that? Well, Skiff is a very resourceful
former detective. I'm sure once the clearances are made, he'll be informed exactly
what he's been getting himself into and exactly exactly what's coming his way. Right,
now, Okay, I wasn't fishing. I was just trying to explain
to Selma that my actions should reflect my feeling. That's all. And that's
Natalie. I didn't imply that you were fishing. I'm just telling you.
You'll find out when the clearances are where they need to be, right,
Okay, I will get back to work now. Okay. Do you need
me to send in anyone? No? Okay, no, thank you for
your time, Natalie. Thank you for the information. I get up.
I think we're are here if you need anything, Okay, we're in the
interrogation room currently. Yeah. Okay, Well, if I find anything,
should I just come in here and knock? Or do you want me to
send it to you a bit more discreetly. Let's keep things discreet for now.
Okay, I think that'd be best. Be careful you too, Natalie.
Thank you. Should I leave that file with you? Yes? Please?
Plea? Okay, I'm going to, if it's all right with the
two of you, I'm going to to remove that search history from my terminal.
Okay, of course. Okay, luck you too, I sigh as
I I'm just sifting through this file, just scanning all the data lines.
Yeah, yeah, that's how I'm failing too. What do you think?
I honestly, I think she's telling the truth. It might be a version
of the truth, but I think it is a truth. I never met
Leonard Grippin. The idea that this person never existed, or did they it's
bizarre. It's damns our narrator. Did I know Leonard? I think I
knew Leonard. Yes, I would say Leonard used to do all the training.
I'm sorry, did you say that you had not met Leonard? I
think I probably would have. Lawyer would have for sure. Oh he was
our old manager. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was our old kind
of like Bossard. I never met him, you know. Yeah, and
the introduction circle maybe you know I never got yeah, yeah. Like if
you also, if you're lying, that's totally cool too. I just I
don't want to take you away from that. I just wanted to clarify that.
Yeah he was. I think we talked about Leonard grippin like four weeks
ago. Yeah, it's true, that's true. So, yeah, he
was. He was kind of like he was the guy with the crazy tie
and he was our like onto our onboarding person, so kind of like middle
management or lower than middle management. Even this is all he really did was
onboarding and training and then we never saw him again. You know he's in
a different area of the LAPD anyway. Money Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was at least until nine months ago. Was okay? So uh yep,
sorry that answers your question. Should we pay Leonard a visit? I
don't think we know where he is unless we have a location currently, I
don't know. I open up my my terminal one. Okay, so go
ahead and look here. Yeah you basically this is also confirming if Natalie told
you the truth. So go ahead and roll tech for me. Please.
You can have advantage because you Natalie has printed out everything on that she could
find on this person. So let me put this up here for you,
and could you read the roll out for me. When you do it,
that is a one. Oh that is a success. Then it's a success.
Okay, yeah, perfect. So you find pretty much exactly what Natalie
found as well. She actually found a little bit more than I think you
do in your first initial search. But I'd say you can with your tech
skills combined with Sawyer's text, you can kind of bend in too. The
information that she bent into with hr to find the money trail, and it
does, in fact, you know, stop about nine months ago. And
if you if you crosscheck and you look at the number of employees that were
around during this guy's tenure, the last one that would have been aware of
his presence left nine and a half months ago, like nine and you know,
like they waited and then you know, stopped the payment and then stopped.
So it does appear that she has told you the truth as she knows
it, like as what is being revealed here? Okay, And now does
this also she had mentioned that she thinks or believes that it goes higher,
yes than maybe even the chief. So is there any is there any receipt
or a trail here that I can find that would lead me on that sort
of rabbit hole or it's not that I guess the reason and you would see
this now that you're kind of cross checking her stuff. But the reason she
said this is because the only people that have access to that level are people
like you know, Sawyer or potentially Natalie if she's skilled enough to hack into
it. But it doesn't look like it was hacked into. It just looks
like it was issued full order stop like it looks like somebody in HR ordered
it to stop, So it's either somebody higher up in HR or potentially the
only people that were around when this guy was still around are like Holden and
the chief, you know, like people who are higher up, which is
why she said that might be a possibility. But that does appear to be
true as well. Okay, do I have any information on Leonard, maybe
like a location. It's like he nothing. Yeah, it's like he never
existed. He leaves, he's getting a paycheck for a long enough time,
and then even his address isn't isn't listed anywhere. It's kind of nuts.
I think if we want, if we want to chase this thread, the
only real recourse we have is to hedge all our bets on Holden and ask
him directly. Does he'll either tell us a lot of hedging. Because Natalie
says that in her opinion, it could possibly be someone like Holden, he
can't accuse the deputy chief of that's a big accusation, right, I mean,
we don't know why he's been wiped off the record. Necessarily, there
might be a different reason for it, and Holden might know that reason.
And yeah, but you'd think it would be more common, right if that
were a thing around the forest, like we just do that like that.
That's odd. I mean, he was just some he had cool ties.
I don't remember that much. Well. I think here's the to me.
The outcome either is that this is news to Holden and he's gonna definitely want
to know this, or Holden's gonna tell us this is not in your job
purview, get back to your actual job. And I think both those answers
tell us everything we need to know. But I don't know if we want
to. I don't know if now is the time to bring this up,
is all I'm saying. I say we wait on it because it's also something
that Natalie's theorizing, and we don't have any concrete, tangible anything to bring
right now. All we have is this missing person, and I mean narrated.
Do I think I could have me with my skill set and my access?
Do I truly think I could have accomplished this if I was this disappearing
of a person. I think that someone like me with my axes. Actually,
that's a really good question. Why don't you roll insight for me?
Insight? Yeah, that's a really really insightful question. Actually, uh yeah,
that's a two, which is a critical success. So here's what I
will tell you about that. I think that you, I mean, we've
got a little bit of an ego, but it's also earned because you know
what you're doing. So I think that you recognize that this information that was
gathered was probably probably not the average person could gather it. Natalie is not
as good, not as skilled as you are. You are probably the only
person, according to you, in the office that would be able to do
something like this. You could do it, but it would be tricky,
and so I think it is reasonable to assume it's either somebody outside helping do
this, which would definitely leave trails, or some sort of hacking or something
like that. But it really does look like somebody inside with the authority just
authorized it. And yeah, so it seems like she might be telling you
the truth. So the stakes, the stakes would be the person in question
would be fabricating orders from superior officers in order to accomplish this. This is
l it would be quite extinct. This is very big, Like they're either
fabricating they're either fabricating orders or they were in on having this person in the
first place, Like this guy must have come in with the purpose of planting
a you know, a bug on your computer and having you or Natalie take
the fall for it at some point. This is a long cont this was
like he worked for nine years, so either he came on trying to do
this or he was bought off at some point, you know, something like
that. But somebody higher up knew about it and is covering it up.
It does imply that it's either Holden or or chief or somebody up on those
levels is the one. It could potentially be somebody over an account accounting as
well, but they are at the equivalent level of holding your boss, so
it would be Yeah, it would be kind of nuts. Narrator, what
day is it? What day the week is it? Uh? You asked
me that last time too. I know this. Hold on, hold on,
This is the reaction I expected immediately when you ask that question. Yeah,
so I believe it is Friday, the twenty second of September. Okay,
it's Friday, day fourteen. I believe it is the weekend. I
don't think there's a weekend in this dystopian reality. I think somebody's always working
in something's always yeah, I say we keep it from holding for now,
for now, just because this could be a whole can of worms. I'm
inclined to agree. And I think we have some other problems to attend to
today, some other to to fry, other fish to fry. Okay,
well, I'm ready if you are. Okay, do you want to tackle
this together? I think that's probably for the best it's been working so far.
Yeah, okay, so we have a couple different to choose from.
I don't disagree at all, but okay, what did you say you liked?
It was good cop a fishing cop? Is that the plant? Good
cop a fishing cop? You know, I don't view it as as bad
cop. I feel like there's you just got to do your job. That's
what it boils down to. So well, let's go do our job.
Yep, yep. And I stand up and say, like, maybe I'm
gonna grab a couple a couple of black coffee on the way. They're also
okay. I think the interrogation room is corporate sterile almost where I don't think
this is used for. This isn't like a generic LAPD interrogation room. This
is probably designed principally for VK tests, I imagine, so it's understood that
it's meant to be for replicant interrogations. So I think it's I think it's
almost somewhere between, you know, an office interview room and a hospital suite.
I think it's I think it's off whites and alogens and cold overall,
and a very unpleasant environment. A steel, metal table bolted to the floor.
The chairs are probably also bolted to the floor. I doubt there's anything
on hand that could be easily used as a weapon, especially considering Yeah,
and I think and I think it's designed to contain replicant strength. Hmm.
Okay, I love that. That's perfect. That you can't rip the table
and the chairs out of the floor. That's necessary. It's not a good
interrogation room if they can kill you with the interrogation room exactly. Yeah.
Okay, we have a mini game that I'm gonna go ahead and explain now.
It's called don't Break. So you two are each gonna roll a one
D four. You can go ahead and do that now at the start of
each interrogation scene, you're gonna be able to do this. Oh wow,
okay, fuck what okay, let me let me explain. So this is
this is at the at the beginning of each interrogation, Uh, you are
going to be able to roll a one D four. That's how many banked
breaking points you get to use on the person you are interrogating. I want,
I really want role play to dominate this. But when you are in
a moment where you think you're putting pressure on them and you're like, it's
up to you two to say this is a breaking point, and that person
being interrogated then has to roll a one D two. It's simple pass or
fail. They either succeed or they fail. If they fail, they lose
one of their resolve and obviously when they get to zero they break. Oh
okay, okay. And to clarify for listeners, we both were also to
roll a D four. We both rolled a four on our D fours.
Yeah, which means they get they get eight chances throughout this interrogation to try
to, oh my god, break the person that they are just like Mario
Party on really hard mode. Yeah exactly now, I said. When I
was making this minigame, I were like, what are the odds that they
both roll for? Like, probably not not gonna happen. Right, like,
there's still a chance for what happens what you say. Of course.
So, but this means you have eight opportunities to call for a role.
So the person she being interrogated still has the opportunity to say to roll,
you know, a pass or fail. They can still succeed and keep their
resolve. So I hope for this person's sake that they can do it at
least a couple times. No, I mean, okay, So, so
just just to get clarification, yep, do we have to use all of
our like if we've got four of them each, do we have to use
all of them? You do not have to use all of them at all.
And also they are guidelines. It's a game for you all to play.
If narratively you feel like your character would break sooner, do it.
If you feel like you know you've gotten all the info you want from them
and you don't want to continue using your you don't have to, you know
what I mean? So again, guidelines fun minigame for you guys to add
stress, stress and tension, but you do not have to abide by it.
Now you will stress you, but you also you also will get some
information at the beginning of each uh uh interrogation as well. So when we
open this the floor, you can ask, out of character, what would
we know about you know, whoever we're interrogating. They can tell you a
couple of things, and then you can you can do your roles, and
then you can start the scene. But again, at any time during the
interrogation, you can call for a breaking point role and they have to roll.
I would like you two to decide is one pass or is one fail?
If they roll a one on a one D two, is it a
pass or is it a fail? Listen? Roll twenty is going to put
a red color on the one and a green color on the two. So
I think one should be fail. Okay, one one should fail sounds good
to me. So that's clear one is a fail, one is a fail.
The other thing is you do not get to know how much resolve a
person you are interrogating has. Obviously it's going to very person a person okay,
So that makes it fun. Okay, And I think that was it
for the minigame. And now who is it that I'm sorry, do we
have to roll anything else for us to like when we're asking questions? But
you just be like this is a breaking point. Yeah, you get to
say, and you've got you've got four each. You've got four each,
And keep in mind at any point if you feel like it's a breaking point
when Sawyer is giving, you can use one of your points during Sawyer's interrogation.
Because you're a team. Yep. Yeah, oh, you guys can
can lift each other up. Yeah, mm hmmm. Okay, okay,
all right, okay, So our first person that you are interrogating actually is
Pulse. Okay, you do know that he is a replicant. Are there
any other details that they might have on Pulse? Whack? Oh? Is
he he's muted because the motorcycle. Hold on, I'm coming to the rescue.
Okay, there you are. I don't imagine. So okay, all
right, so that's all you guys have. Oh no, that's not true.
You have you have that he's a replicant. But you also have footage
from Tyrell that Sawyer got. Tyrrell did not relinquish this willingly to you.
That's a very important point. Sawyer nabbed this and it is footage of September
ninth, and it is footage of Pulse inside Tyrrell along with a couple of
other people trying to break in and get something. You don't know what they
were doing in there, but you did see footage of them inside the building
and breaking in. So that's what you know about Pulse. Take it away.
Hello, Sit down, my coffee. That's still hot, hot,
hot, hot coffee. So Pulse, is that a given name or a
chosen name? Does it matter? Well, I'm asking. I'm Detective Clark.
I believe you've already met. Yes, what is your designation? You
can call me Pulse? Okay? What were you designed to do? Pulse?
I was designed to save lives. I'm a surgeon, a surgeon,
a surgeon. How long have you been a surgeon? I'm not sure?
Okay, fair enough? Are you aware? Are you aware of your incept
date? The implication that I am unaware of how long I've been a surgeon
indicates that I am not. That's good. That's good. You're good.
Are you a Nexus six or an extas eight? Nexus eight new model open
ended lifespan. I'm not sure which I am. You're not sure? No,
nobody's told you. Why would they? Well, you found it out
somehow. It's not like you just walked into a room and it was plastered
everywhere. I'm guessing no one through you a party, like, by the
way, you're a replicant. No, no, So how did you find
out? Can you describe what a strawberry taste? Like? I suppose you'd
have to understand a strawberry and a conventional manner. You'd have to look at
the strawberry as a decided upon thing that both of you know is a fruit
that is juicy and sweet and red. It's got little tiny seeds in it,
It's got a little green leaves. Those are all descriptors, right,
But that's understood. We know that that's a strawberry because we can communicate that.
I'm not sure where your question is here, but yes, I could
probably describe a strawberry to somebody in the English language. Would you describe it
to me? Sweet? Red, and a pulpy texture? I wouldn't expect
that. You wouldn't expect that. What would be on your expectations for a
strawberry? I don't have any I can't taste fruit. That That is a
shame. The man that we arrested you alongside, what is his name?
Why should I tell you? Well, here's an interesting question. Do you
value anything? Is there anything that you hold precious or dear? And this
is a breaking point. I'd like to know exactly what it is that you
might find to be worthy. And this exists stance. So that's a roll
of a die. One is a fail and the two is a past.
You get to keep your resolve be passed. For those listening, I value
life. That makes sense. You were designed to preserve life. Yeah,
but we're back at the strawberry thing right where we don't know what strawberry even
tastes, Like, how do you even know what life is? Sorry,
that's a privilege a lot of us have. You don't, don't. I
no why. This is like playing chess with a computer where you're like,
oh, I know, it's probably gonna get me in like three moves.
But then, you know, what's the funny thing is is that you can
reset it and keep going and keep going and keep going. You can just
keep playing chess. But I'm not interested in playing chess with you. I'm
not interested in answering your your questions. You might have questions all day.
I don't care. What I care about is what exactly went on in the
building that y'all chose to Yeah, what happened there? What was the breaking
all about? There's no expression change in my face. I stare, Okay,
you value life, right, you do value the life of the man
that you arrested alongside, because it's something that I'll tell you now. I
understand that you have no reason to cooperate with us. You don't anticipate exiting
this room alive. But the man that you are arrested with is not a
replicant, is human. That means that there's a lot of different outcomes for
him. Would you like to know if he's alive. There's no change in
my face. I stare, Well, you have the chance to preserve lives
because amongst the people that we took in today, there were not just replicants,
there were human sympathizers. Now, the law is very clear that the
kill on side order extends between replicants and sympathizers. But plade runners aren't intended
to retire our own kind, and if information falls into our hands, that
behooves us to keep some of them alive. So if a replicant that was
designed to save lives and preserve life gave us information that saved and preserved the
lives of several human sympathizers. You could work on finding alternative solutions for those
individuals if you do indeed care about them. Blade Runners hunt replicans, you
kill them, we retire them. You kill them, we us tire them.
Sure, you kill us. M there's that definition again. Life kill
strawberry. It's also understood, isn't it. But it was programmed into you.
Humans have to learn a lot just by living through instinct, through intuition,
So I don't think we're going to learn anything out of this one.
I'm willing to throw in the towel here and you can ask about strawberries all
day, But if we don't get anywhere, you're going to find that whatever
you value at all, I'm not even sure what that is at this point,
if it's even something you would consider in existence. Do you value your
existence? And this is a breaking point. I'm going to stand up,
sharply, take my glasses off, and try and stab Selma with them.
I am immediately on the droll, shooting this person in the heart. Okay,
thanks to you. I think that my shot was incredibly precise, and
I think this is the first time you've seen me shoot somebody. Well,
dead Waite knew that one wasn't going anywhere. I guess let's bring in Sagan.
I take a sip out of my coffee. I've got word that Siggin
is uh still in critical surgery. Okay, we're gonna have to start elsewhere.
I'll take care of the body clean up if you want to get started
to the next one. Okay, alright, remind the guards to confiscate any
and all accessories this time. I don't know what the hell they were thinking
any not last time. Those glasses, anything's a weapon in their hands.
But most of the ones that we're dealing with are human as far as I'm
aware, so it should be less of a problem. M okay, Oh,
I'm still a little shaky. Do you have any favorite animals growing up?
Yeah? Yeah, had a uh little version of a farm. I
guess we had some some sheep, some cows. I think of anamoids,
I'm not even sure. Maybe probably. I mean my mother was an uh
an ornithologist. Actually she designed anamoids, but her specialty was birds, adding
gales, mocking birds, wax wings. M So I pretty much grew up
in an aviary, believe it or not. HM with design birds with design
birds. Yes, yeah, yeah, Like I said, I had a
lot of friends growing up, but most of them were birds. What brought
that on? We don't talk about ourselves much anymore. And uh, I
don't know. Having all these prisoners in cages just got me remembering prisoners in
cages. You mean the people that people prisoners? Uh? You mean like
hostages. No, I'm talking about the people were about to interrogate. They're
like little birds in cages, and we decided to snap their necks or not.
Well, that's also dependent on whether or not they try anything, So
let's be honest. I didn't see them one coming. Yeah. I mean
when I say to an extent that I think the sympathizers we can rationalize with
them. I know the order is retire on site, but the fact that
we have brought them in a life, there's a lot of information at stake
here, so we might have to get creative. Okay, creative? All
right? You are okay to handle the next one by yourself? Yeah,
or at least i'd like to think so. But look at what just happened,
right, So, like I said, make sure the guards right,
who knows? You're just better to be on my guard at all times.
I suppose maybe the coffee that's making me dritterery, but yeah, I'll be
fine, Thanks ver, thanks for that. Sorry, we are switching now
to the first interrogation. So Loo, you do get to roll. You're
one D four Sbeth. Okay, oh that's a three. Okay, wow,
that's very good. Okay, so you have three moments at any point
in interrogation where you can force them to roll to see if they lose the
resolve to give you information. Okay, all right, can we actually know
how you feel in this moment? I am shaken up. Okay, I'm
very shaken up. I did not expect that this replicant was going to do
any sort of attacking because he just seemed kind of trying the like this reverse
psychology almost and it was just like, oh, this is I don't think
we're going to get anything out of this, out of this character. And
I think it was at that moment where it was like, oh, he's
gonna he's gonna attack, because there was that nope, he we're done with
him, you know, and maybe he recognized that. So that's what leaves
me shaken where it's like, oh, he actually like recognized his own his
own fear so so almost thinking about that? Kay, perfect, when you
enter into the room, what does what does she see? Mm? Can
I can I describe it? I mean, there's a person in the room.
There is a person in the room. They are they are actually like
handcuffed and or whatever the equivalent bee would be in this dystopian futuristic alt reality.
But they are unable to move. It looks like this time, after
that incident had happened, they decided to go ahead and do that whack.
Would you like to describe what what she sees? I'm very fidgety. You
could probably hear my foot tapping on the floor. There's a uh certainly a
lot of sweat on my brow. I'm I'm wearing a striped colored shirt and
a tie. I have glasses, and I am obviously very alert and and
paranoid, especially after hearing the door open. Hello, oh good, finally
somebody. And it's a little a little draft in here, and it can
be kind of a long late time. So just me today. Well,
we're we have some questions for you. I have some questions for you.
Okay, uh uh, if you don't if you don't mind, I have
a question for you. Huh, when is my lawyer writing? I was
not given any lawyer information. Did you provide anything to anybody or did anyone
take anything down? Or I don't think we have a lawyer on the way.
Uh uh, ty Tyrell didn't send a lawyer. I don't think so.
I'm sorry to report that. But were you expecting a lawyer from Tyrone?
Yeah? Clearly, yeah, yes, yes, okay, all right,
Well I'm not gonna bite you. My name is Selma. I've been
working here for almost sixteen years. I'd like you to tell me about the
Tyrrell Corporation, if you can tell them what you do a h I or
not, if you're not feeling it at this point, tell me about yourself.
Oh okay? Uh what can I? What can I? Uh?
Uh? I assume you already. No, I don't know about you.
If that's what you're asking. I have some information on you, and I
have some questions i'd like to ask you, but I don't know you.
So that's why I'm here. I take a ship of my coffee. Why
why am I here? Do you want me to be real with you?
I can give you the good news, and I can give you the bad
news. Are you a good news person first? Or a bad news person
first? Uh? Bad news? Bad news? So bad news is it's
looking kind of suspicious for you. I'm not gonna lie. The good news
is if you're honest with me, there won't be any problems. You seem
like an honest kind of person. I don't, I don't. I don't
really understand what any of that means. Uh. Okay, did did I
do something wrong? Narrator? Can I ask how? How is it's Quail
right? Yes? Or okay? How how is he? How is he
looking right now in this moment? Or maybe I could sweat so much sweat
if he's sweating? Okay, Okay, so he's sweating a lot, Okay.
For some reason, he wound up on a list of people that Rose
wanted to protect. Rose wanted a new ideay for this guy. Do I
know this? Yeah? Everybody, everybody that you're interrogating right now is on
the list of people that you just raided and got That wasn't like we saw
Segan saying, you know, there's only the two of us in the apartment,
but whether in that apartment there were you know, twenty other people or
thirty other people I think is what Sawyer said, was on the list.
But everybody was waiting for their new id here in this apartment complex. So
yeah, you all of these people were waiting for new ideas from Rose.
So okay, okay, can you tell me about Rose? Who like the
flower? Do you know anybody named Rose? Is there is there anyone that
comes to mind at all? Uh? No, you still haven't told me
what it is that you do? What do you do for a living?
I worked for Tyrell? Okay, but what is it that you do at
Tyrell? That's what I'm specifically asking you. Quail, I I A A
A supposed to have a lawyer. It might be a breaking point for Quail.
It's looking like a breaking point. Go ahead and roll that. Uh
one D two? That is a two. It means you keep it together
somehow. Okay, do you do you want a towel or anything? Water
would be great, Okay. Narrators are like a water fountainer anywhere you can
get up a little like a little water cooler with like those those little triangle
shape cups. Yeah. Absolutely, So what we can do if you want
is you can get up, go get the water and cause him to do
another breaking point while he waits, and then we'll switch scenes while you're making
him wait, wow, whack. Just spray his face with a water bottle
so he looks like he's sweating it. So good the dedication. Okay,
yeah, let's let's make him. Let's make him say I'll go up and
get some water for him. Let's do let's do another breaking point roll.
Then she's got four for this entire interrogation. I think I have three for
this interrogation. Oh, you're right. Three? Yeah, all right?
He rolled it two. Oh my god and succeeded. I don't know how
he's managing to raise the right. Okay, do you want to come back
with water now? Or should we switch to see the other Yeah? I
think this is cool. This is really neat. Okay, so we're going
to switch to another interrogation here. Uh, what do we see in this
room? It's you Sawyer about to interrogate somebody. Are you already in the
room or are you prepping before you go in? What does it look like
as you prepare to go in and interrogate this person? I think I'm behind
the gloss to start with, and I'm just studying this person. I have
physical copies of files in front of me. I have something pulled up in
my ka and I think it's just sheer focus. It's it's just another day
at work. And I think. The last thing I do before I step
out is I I check my firearm. I make sure that it's ready to
fire, that it's easy to droll. Okay, Oh we shit, Okay,
And that's that's what I do before I step in. All right,
go ahead, take it. Oh wait, do your roll four? My
role? Yes, yep, So you get two breaking points in this interrogation.
Take it away. Hello, Hello, What am I doing here?
What is going on? It is doctor here? For a long time,
I don't know what is happening here, Doctor petro Vic, that's me.
Yes, that's my name. I am doctor Peter Vick. Hi, Detective
Clark. I'm here, do I hear? Am I here to look at
eyes of police? You're not here for an eye exam, doctor, You're
here to answer a couple of my questions. Okay, I'm ready. Go
ahead. Ask a question. What were you doing in this apartment complex today
when me and my team came across you. I'm sorry? What the apartment
complex? That we found you in today. Were you there to meet somebody?
Could you clarify to me while you were in the building. Well,
don't tell anyone this, but sometimes I do health calls for you know,
for people who can't make it to office. You know, I have office,
like guy. People have eye problems, can't make their way, can't
afford cab or or you know, transportation, or can't walk something like that.
So I, being self started, I go to them. You uh
operate an optometry clinic called Looking Good? Is that correct? That's right?
Looking good? You see me on the billboard that like looking Good? I
hope I haven't hold on it. It probably don't recognize me because I'm not
only assign customer looking good, very nice, Doctor Patrick. Don't actually need
these, it's just for looks for advertisement. So you were here on a
benevolent house call to perform an in house optometry checkup on an individual? Which
individual would that be? Oh, doctor patient? I know can't take uh
doctor patient confidentiality? Yes did? I didn't know this? But it does
extend to my doctor as well. That's okay? Is it alright? If
I speak to the other you, I would think that would be vitreous.
That's the name that you've gone by in the past, right, Oh hey,
now that is that is way in the past. I have not been
that person for many years, you know, like if I may where where
is uh? I don't know. Detective the Blade Runner, I don't know
hart Crow. Bring him in here. He tell you. I'm legit.
I help a lipid Harcrow. Yes, Harkcrow. He showed me his bad.
She tells me, he's keep my I am his his seeing. I
see, I it's not seeing. I I'm so sorry. I'm his CEI.
He tell me that. I think that me means confidential importance. I
see. I open a file folder and I said, well, let's start
here so you can help me out a little bit, and I put a
set of dossiers in front. I just start with two. Are you aware
of the whereabouts of former Detective Skiff Callispell or former Detective Galen Edwards? Do
you recognize either of these two? No? I mean were they patients of
mine? I'm just going to keep going through the I mean, if you
get warrant, you get the patients record. Probably. Okay, what about
these two scene as you mentioned, mister Harcrow, and I put down adossier
on Sam Harcrow alongside detective former detective Robert Wyndham. I put those both side
by side. Okay, so this is really important. You are putting down
Sam Harcrow. How did you get this information? Because everything from Sam Harcrow
was wiped from the l A p D. It's fine if you have it,
I just want to know where you got it from. M I thought
that we recovered parts of it when we when I did like a techive.
This is admittedly, this is like months ago. I thought this was a
piece of the information that we were covered. But if we don't have a
photo or anything like, that's fine, but it would just be the assembled
information. Let's roll to see if you got the photo, because this is
this is huge, right, because make sure I have name right, like
the person I was helping on the l a p D that day or no,
he are you asking me? I'm asking? Yes? Yeah, God,
okay, he did not give you the name Sam Harcrow until later,
because yeah, but you rolled for it and the name you remember is Sam
Harcrow, and that's all I can give you. I remember that name.
Then you can roll again. If you'd like, son of a bitch,
it wasn't. But basically it wasn't you. I gave you the name that
you rolled to remember, and what you remembered was Sam Harcrow. But that
is not the name that he gave you for the badge number. But I'd
like to see pool again to find out if my brain knows who that is?
Sure? Sure, okay, I know I got the ones one success,
So who is who here in my brain? Okay, well again,
I think the only name that would be available to you is Sam Harcrow,
even with the one. You need a critical success to get access to this
other name. The reasons I do not want to introduce himself at all.
No, I think he did. But I believe there was a deal struck
after correct for your for you to get your thing right, for you to
get your Yeah, practically because I help him find target. Yes, do
you get business license back? But I would imagine that when he went back
to you and gave you the thing, he said, I'm not this person.
I'm this person. If anybody comes asking this is the person that you
have to say that I am, well, then snap back to your reality.
I will say, but that's who he was looking for one of the
people. And this I'm saying to you, officer, now, one of
the people involved in this kerfuffle was a hard crow. I don't know if
it was the person or the target, but one of them, but someone
who works here at the LPD. I don't know if they're still here because
they seem kind of, you know, delious. I don't know if they're
still here, but one was looking for the other, and I help LPD
find that person. Narrator, I rolled a three for my tech. Okay,
let's say you have the photo, because this is a huge deal.
Then so what happens? So maybe it's a reconstructed photo rather than like you
know from the LAPD dossier. But yeah, it's reconstructed, so it's not
perfect. But this is this is game changing because Sam Harcrow's photo in here
is going to look like not the guy that you were hunting down with the
detective. So neither of which face is familiar to me. None of them
on that list, I don't think, except well, okay, waiting at
no, that's not sure. That's sure she's showing you or he's showing you
a reconstructed photo, and it's it would be of the man who was hunting
down Sam. That's the name of the detective. But you could have sworn
that the person that he was hunting down was Sam, not him. But
that's that's all you can remember at this point, unless you want to roll
again and try to get a grip. Okay, hold on a minute.
Yep. So you said a lot of things. Yes, who do I
recognize now? Right now, right now in front of you is the detective
that gave you your license back. He kept his word and he gave you
your license. That one right there, that one right there. I point
the picture and I said, that one right there, that's who I strike
deal with. You say, you help me, I help you. You
scratch my butt, I scratch your butt. That's how it works. Okay,
So you helped blade Runner Sam Harcrow do what precisely, I help him
find he's on manhunt. He says, help me find this person. You
get license back. I don't ask him many questions, okay, okay,
And when things get hairy, I got I get out because it looked like
none of my business. And can I ask who you were helping him track
down? I don't know. Apparently don't know thought one was somebody else.
I mean, the names in my head got mixed up. I'm not trying.
I'm trying to help you. I'm I have nothing to hide. I
am legitimate business man, looking good, right, So you have nothing to
hide whatsoever? No, I mean not now. Back then, I did
you know? I mean, you see you see reps sheet from me?
You know my previous name, Like, you know what I've done? But
all slate clean? He say, all slates clean? Do you know what
I have here? What's it that you were sourcing and providing a street narcotic
that is able to help replicants conceal themselves from a void camp test. Yes,
that's like I said back in the day when I needed money for me
and family, Like, yes I do. That's not the only thing I
sell. And the only reason I'm telling you this now is because Slaton was
clean. I thought I did no law back then too helping. I mean,
of course law gives dealing drugs, that's you know, neither here nor
there. But now I mean, I don't help anybody except in my eyeshop.
So your I check up today. That wasn't you providing this material to
known members of the underground in order for them to cheat a VK test.
Let me ask God, Yes, what are you asking? God? God
is answering somebody else's question in a DM, I am that's fine God,
he has a long waiting list. I get it. I suppose it's Okay,
yep, go on, what was your question? No? My question
is what was I doing there today? Because I honestly thought, take me
from shop Bob Diometri's place. Yep. I didn't know I was there.
I had to make that up on the fly. Oh yeah, So I
think that you were probably there because Rose, or you thought it was Rose,
texted you to this location and asked you to be here. But the
fact that you came, Yeah, the fact that your name is on this
list from Rose would be a surprise to you because she didn't ask you if
you wanted a new identification. You haven't talked to her since the last day
that you saw her. So you were here because you got a text from
her. Okay, yep, But you do know she's a replicant now right.
That was revealed in the last episode. I remember that part and I
it was weird, but you know, I'm smart. I thought maybe she
was anyway. Okay, okay, cards on the table. I liked you
earlier. I'm so sorry. I apologize. I see now this is serious
business. I walked by all types of people like you. You did a
big old rodeo roundup of a bunch of people, and I was there because
old friend send me message. And this is old friend from bad days.
But old friend is so good to me back in bad days. I come
to see what's the problem. I wasn't sure what was going on, but
if friend needs help, you help them, right, So I did not
think that it would get me caught up with all the coppers and stuff.
So what is your friend's name? And I'd like this to be a breaking
point. Okay, I roll a two. Yep, you succeed now,
Okay, okay, listen, I don't I like you. You're very good
looking. You have nice eyes, obviously the first thing I noticed. But
that seems like something that I probably shouldn't say, seeing as hell. There's
laws in place now, and I like my friends still, and I would
not like to tell you anything without a lawyer. Right, is that something
that I can have? You think this is the kind of environment where you
get provided with a lawyer. Oh, yes, yes, it is is
that I think I know who contacted you. I believe that you were contact
did by an N six replicant by the name of Rosetta. Do you want
to know how I know that. I thought that it was your turn.
No, I have no idea what you're talking about. He received a message
from an old friend of yours that told you to come to this location.
Yes, I said that. Yes, well, I sent a message as
Rosetta to a number of people asking them to come to a certain location.
Are you aware of these stipulations of the Replicant Prohibition Act? Are you aware
that many people send messages every day saying I need help? Who say,
I got this from me, not from N six replicants to this exact location
where you were picked up. You were not there by coincidence. You were
there by design. That's my design. Now, according to the stipulations of
the Act, any replicant or replicant sympathizer can be retired or killed on site.
You don't throw a sympathizer the world around anymore. No, this is
okay. So you're telling me, even if, like hypomathetically, if you
were to get a message from someone who might or might not be a replicant.
You're not allowed to answer it. You're not allowed to go see them.
Is that what you're saying what I did is illegal? I don't think
so, but I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. Can I have
lawyer? Now? Maybe lawyer would tell you. Let's put up an arrangement
or a timeline of events. Rosetta was a known operator within the look At
Underground. You were a known supplier of a narcotic that allowed N six's to
cheat the VK test. You were on a list. You were on a
list of people that Rosetta valued enough she wanted to get you, help potentially
get you out of the city, or use you to help others get out
of the city. You were in a building full predominantly of replicants, and
the ones that weren't replicants were sympathizers. I know that you're not a replicant.
Wait a minute, Wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute.
So if allegedly I were to have taken the message from someone and someone brought
me, you brought me there to make it look like I'm sympathizer. You
do this not a fair What are your opinions and replicants pitreous. Oh,
it doesn't matter what I say. You're gonna think I'm liar until I tell
you what you want to hear. So I say no, you say liar
if I say yes, and you're like, oh, now tell the truth.
So it doesn't matter what I say. You got to think what you
want. You think I'm stupid because I don't talk. So good? Would
you be able to locate Sam Harcrow for me? I could look at the
picture and tell you if I see him. But I haven't seen either of
those, thankfully. I don't want to see either of them. They got
into something that I said, no, not even my table. What did
they get into? Shit? I think I'm sorry. I think that's a
breaking point role. I think you slipped up there, buddy. Okay,
Rule one and I failed. Okay. I told them. I told them
the other people who were there. I don't know them their names or anything,
but I told them, and I said, what they just say that
is something we don't need to know and might get us killed. M But
since well, here I go is okay? So I show officer to his
target, I help him find target. Okay, he finds target. They
start talking, they like they either partners or lovers or something, because there's
hate. There's so much hate between them, and they start talking. Comes
out I don't know the exact words that were used, but it comes out
that there were replicans working for LAPD, unknown to LAPD apparently. And I
know I didn't want that information. I know that's dangerous thing to have,
but I mean, you're not going to shoot a human, like right here
in the middle of an interrogation chamber. So I hope that's not going to
happen or something. Did you say that replicants replicants in the LAPD. And
I tell you this, I know that information bad kill me, kill my
wife, kill my family bed. So I tell not a single soul until
just now, so I'm the only one to give my face. I am
scared to death that you're going, Okay, send the letter home to my
wife telling me I died the resisting a risk or something. Okay, vitreous.
I'm gonna put it this way. You said, please like I not
vitorious anymore, doctor Petrovic. If I may. You said you're a word,
that you learned information that might get you killed. I'd like to venture
the opposite. I think you may have learned some information that may save your
life. Please tell me. I want to save my life. Anything you
can tell me about harcrow, this manhunt, anything you can reconstruct for me,
anything you can pass along to me pertaining to replicants infiltrating the LAPD.
That information is worth a human life. A human life. You are human,
doctor Petrovic. That is the distinctive trait about you, alongside the information
that will save you from the block today. Do you understand me? I
do what I can. I'm I like living. We all like living.
All right, all right, here we go. I got some water here.
How are you? How are you feeling there? Quile? Yeah,
okay. Oh actually wait, I didn't give you the I didn't give you
the water yet. I still have it in my hands. It's cannon.
It's cannon weig. So I've got the water in my hands, and I
come over to the table and I just kind of like sip on mine a
little bit. Oh man, that's good. You know. They keep it
like ice cold temperature, too, which is really really nice. It's great
for hot days, great for quenching your thirst. It's just amazing, just
real quick. I wanted to ask you. Now, this is besides what
we were talking about earlier, but I was just wondering what you might need
a new identification for. Excuse me, why would you in particular, now
this is what I'm seeing here, Why were you in the market for a
new ID? Uh? New ID right? Right? New identification? Let's
see you've got the date here. Yeah, I'm just curious if you could
tell me, tell me about that, or why you would you would need
a new identity other than the one you currently have. I don't know what
you're talking about. Okay, all right, that's fair. Do you know
anything about a This is me asking you as a You say you work for
Tyrell, right, were you familiar with the with the break in? You
can see an immediate reaction on my face. I can't conceal it. It
looks like my stomach has just dropped through the bottom of the chair. Yeah,
I hand him the water. Tell me about it. It'll save your
ass. When when you say save my ass, yes, I'm waiting in
hot water, Quail, you're in hot water. That's the bad news.
Remember I gave you the bad news first. You're in hot water. M
uh yeah, uh, there was a lot of blood. M there's so
much blood. I wasn't expecting it's so much shot him. Can you tell
me what happened? Let's not let's not visit that right now. If it's
bothering you. My hands are shaking on the table, Quail. Can you
tell me what you do at the Tyreil Corporation. I'm supposed to have a
lawyer not here, however, else supposed to send the lawyer. They didn't.
I'm sorry. If they were supposed to, they left you out in
the cold. And that's me being honest with you. I need you to
be honest with me. Otherwise this is gonna end pretty poorly for you.
And that's that's not a threat, Quail. I'm telling you that as we're
looking at a whole LAPD looking at you. Ah, I do security,
okay, what kind of security? Quantum computing? Really? I have a
PhD? Wow? Where'd you get your PhD? University of Lost Handles?
Okay? Okay, I'd like you to be able to keep using that degree,
so would I? Yeah? Yeah, Listen, we believe that Tyrell
is taking information directly from the LAPD. Quail. This is it doesn't matter
to me whether or not you answer this question honestly. I mean now it
would. But what I'm gonna tell you is this, eventually, eventually we
always catch. We always catch the people that we set out to catch.
I would know. I'm a pretty damn good blade runner. Yeah, I'm
gonna put some pressure on him. Oh, this is gonna be a breaking
but I want to uh see if he knows anything about this information that was
stolen. Oh gosh, okay, okay, uh uh I I'm I I
my name. My name is not Quail h My name is doctor Oliver Sinclair.
We weren't supposed to give our real names. We were trying to strengthen
the security of replicants and make sure that they sort of looking out of the
corner of my eye, my peripheral vision. Ah, that that we're supposed
to strengthen uh tyrrel's security. I was That's that was my job, right,
okay, Oliver? And would you say you were successful at your job?
I hope, so you hope? So? Okay, Well there was
a break in. So I'm wondering if you say that you handle security.
Not sure, Oh you must have kind of security. I don't do,
do I look like I work that kind of security. No, not necessarily,
but you do look like you might have seen it some camera footage or
two. Surely maybe you were a bystander. Maybe you were a part of
something that you didn't want to be a part of, Oliver, was that
what happened? H m hm. I moved my chair a little bit and
makes like a large, like a horrible squeeze, squeaking noise, and I
jump at the sound that I make. Oh yeah, muhm, it's okay,
Chris, have a seat, have a seat. Yeah, uh I
I I m h, I m hm. I just want to go home.
Kay, Why what's happening? I'm not sure. Trying to understand that
myself. I'd like to know who you're protecting. At this point. You
seem very nervous about something. I can only imagine it's something that you would
rather not discuss with me, maybe because I'm lapde, because I'm a bladed
runner. Who knows. What I will tell you, Oliver, is that
I do have limited time here, and I have even less patience. So
I'd like to get to the bottom of this with you. I need this
information from you. Not a replican. Never said you were you think I'm
you think I'm I told you you're a suspect. You are a suspect.
Now, what I've managed to glean from you is that something really awful happened.
I don't think you've talked about this with anybody, much less someone from
the LAPD, not a Replican. That's not the question. What I want
to know about the break in. I'm going to ask you one last time.
I'd like to know what happened to where there got to be so much
blood on the ground. Do you know you just showed up and there was
blood? What that's all I'm hearing is that one moment there was blood everywhere.
I don't. I don't understand what went down. So that's what I'm
trying to find out from you directly. Are you investigating, then, yes,
I am. Now, you said you were supposed to use fake names?
Who gave you these fake names? Did you make up on yourself?
Uh? Huh? Loosen my tie? Quite clearly agitated? I h m
hmm. I When when I look at this person, do I what do
I see? When I look at you? Do I see? No?
You see someone who's trying to understand what you're going through you see someone who's
someone who has witnessed something very horrible and it's making them sweat and fidji and
nervous, and they can't even bring them supps to talk about it. So
it's also someone that is deeply traumatized. So I'm trying to come at this
from a point of patience, but she is running out of patience, and
you might be able to see that in her face. Some of her brow
is furrowed a little bit, but she is trying to be a bit more
lenient because of your demeanor. And uh, but he came in to the
room. We weren't expecting it. Nobody's supposed to be there. It's uh
uh the secret Project. That's why we all came up with our own names.
You came up with Quail. Yeah, that's this is just for me,
off the record. Why Quail? Uh? I promise you doesn't have
anything to pertain to anything. I'm just curious. You don't have to answer
that either. I'm just wonder if they were cute. They're are cute,
They're cute little birds. Do you like birds? Huh? You like birds?
Birds? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yeah? What's your favorite bird?
Is it the quail or is it another bird? They have another class
water? Yeah, I'll go grab you another glass. Are you doing okay?
No, thanks for the honesty. I'll be right back. I'm guessing
this is directly narrator directly after yep. Okay. So are we like meeting
each other in the middle of the hallway, yeah, probably yep. Yeah,
And you've you've been interrogating all day pretty much. I'm not sure how
much time has passed for you, but you did nab a lot of people
in this raid today, so it could be many hours later. I think
if we run into each other in the car at all, I think we've
been working separately. I think there's been, you know, other scenes that
we're not seeing. Yeah, other interrogations that have not been as notable or
have been a lot more clear cut and dry. But I think the sawyer
is coming to have an interrogation room and I have I have blood spattered on
the collar of my shirt and I'm holstering my weapon, just shaking my head.
Oh what happened? Is that from earlier or was that reason? Some
of them really don't give you anything, do they. It feels like some
of them don't want to live. But like you said, they don't even
know what living is, right, they don't even know what living is.
And I think we have a room that's sort of like our I want to
say, like our maybe we have an interrogation room that's sort of like our
pseudo office at the moment, you know, like because we're working this floor.
We've been working this floor for like eight hours or something. And I
go in there and I take a marker and I draw a line across it
and step back, and it's it's a wall of names, and there's lines
through so many of them. And I look it over and say, we
have twenty six dead in PROSS testing in the Morgue currently, well twenty five
now it's twenty six, most of them confirmed replicants, but a number of
sympathizers in the bunch that wouldn't budge. I got a lot of very interesting
information from doctor Petrovic m he's singing like a canary. It's going to take
me a while to get through it all. But oh, and I kind
of glance around the room and is that the feeling good guy? Looking good?
Oh? Looking good? See, I'm yeah paying attention because of the
eyes. Okay, yeah, yeah, I set down some folders on a
table that we have and I just look at it for a second, and
I think that Sawyer and Selma at this stage have used their combined observational tech
might to make sure there are definitely no listening devices in this room and that
they feel secure were in speaking here. And I turned to Sama and say
this. Doctor Petrovich says that he worked with Sam Harcrow something about replicants in
the LAPD that did not know what they were. Huh, that would make
sense. That makes a lot of sense. Actually, I mean it connects
a lot of dots, a lot of lines drawn together. But yeah,
listen the information on my terminal, the monitoring of the LAPD that's taken place.
I feel like there's a connection. I don't know if we have time
for it right now, but maybe you and I should go over it together
at some point. Okay, I'm just trying to connect some dots here and
figure out there's a lot of dots that he connecting. Got just sweating.
He cannot contain his bodily fluid. It is just leaking all over the place.
So I'm poor guy. But he said they were giving code names or
at least got to choose their own code names. There are some secret projects
they weren't expecting it. Well, uh, he works with quantum computing and
security. He said he didn't know anything about a break in, but I
know he knows because he also said there was a lot of blood and that
he wasn't expecting it. So I think it was probably pretty traumatizing for those
people that don't normally work in the sort of field you want to keep leaning
on him. I would have brought him a little bit more to see what
I can get out of him. But I'm gonna go get him some more
water first. Poor guy's probably so dehydrated from all that sweat. Do you
mind if I join in? Please? I could. I could use the
help. But I don't know. He actually might think that that was even
weirder because he's really been reluctant to give me some answers here, Sawyer.
I don't know. Maybe it's best that I just go back in there alone.
Now that I think about it, I think he'd probably just get more
nervous, so he'd probably be like, Oh, that's a that's that's my
fate right there. No, I get it, you just said updated but
but that's that's all I know at this point. All right, there's a
real names all Oh. I can be behind the glass if you want,
you know, observing, but not in the room was here. I think
that's probably for the best. All right, sure thing, okay, okay,
Oliver, I got you some more water. Here you go, and
I gave it to him freely. Narrator. Do I have the key to
his handcuffs? Oh? Sure, yeah, you can have right on.
Yep, absolutely, Okay, I'm gonna say it's like probably some code you
punt. Well, I guess no, because everything's analog now, so yeah,
it is a key, and then the shackles come right off. Okay,
come here, give me your hands, stick the key in them,
uncling them. Thank you. Yeah. Did you recognize any of the people
that broke in anyone at all? No? Okay, you said you do
quantum computing and security. That's that's correct. Right. So if we contacted
Tyrrell, maybe ask them about the September ninth incident, and we asked them,
do you think you might have anything in this area of security that shows
up? What do you think they would say? I am not I'm not
sure. I think they might say, uh, uh, I'm sorry when
what? What? When did you say? Hm? For the break in?
As far as I know, this was about eight months ago. No,
yours? Yours is September ninth. That's the one you have a few
weeks ago, Selma has September ninth. September ninth is eight months ago.
There were two break ins, but you're only aware of the one, and
he's only aware of the one. Okay, all right, so this is
where it gets Harry, So September ninth? What there was a break in?
And I checked my papers, says here there was a break in on
September ninth. Yeah, you do? You know? Do I have my
dates wrong? Is there? What's not? What's not lining up here?
Uh? I I uh h, I wasn't at work that day. What
was the date of the the break and that you remember when you were there?
You know? Uh? It was uh uh it was a while ago.
Uh somebody, uh somebody, somebody, uh somebody. I'm saying obviously
I'm floundering and looking sort of a bit erratic. It's I'm not a good
liar. But somebody uh came they came in and uh in into our into
our lab and they they shot all of the uh, all of the interns
that we had there. Wow, Hi Jesus, I'm surprised. Uh you
didn't know about that. I did not surprises me too, to be honest
with you, But no, I didn't know that, Oliver. If I
could ask you, could you presume a motive motif why would they come in
and kill all the interns? It's uh tyrrell of course worse. It's the
one of the biggest corporations on the planet. They wanted to take They wanted
to take what we have. But you think it would be more specific than
that. No, if they want to take what you have, why are
they coming in and just gunning down people? What are we taking there?
They stole they stole a new computer we were working on. They stole a
computer, that's right. Wow, Okay, what kind of computer? Uh
TRS seven? T r S seven? What was What was the intended function?
Was it built for anything specific or was it just something you guys were
working on? I? Yeah, it is a computer developed for the purpose
of encryption and two hundred and fifty six bit encryption, and it is some
of the finest work that I've ever done. If I must say so,
and we lost it. They killed several people stealing this computer and the TRS
seven. You said, what does that stand for? You built it?
Right? So I'm sorry you can't remember what it actually means? Or well
I didn't come up with the name. Okay, but surely you understand the
t l A there, sorry, three letter acronym. It's TRS right,
Tyrell? Uh? I think we're done here, Oliver. Wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait I I will be talking to some people. We'll
probably bring up Tyrell. I start putting away files and folders. It has
been a pleasure. Now you sure there's nothing else you want to tell me
about? Uh? Can I get you another water? No? I'm looking
around like something is going to save me in the room. Uh Uh that
I I can't say, I can't, can't you can't? All right,
Oliver? It says here you have a cat? Can you tell me what
your cat's name is? What do you have a cat? Are you going
to hurt my cat? Well? No, no, no, I'm just
asking who's gonna care for your cat if something were to happen to you?
Why is this happening? I just want my job? Well, there were
a couple of break ins, it would seem so I'm not I'm not sure
how how well that was done. Also allowing something like that to be taken
right off the bat and you can't even tell me what it stands for,
Oliver, I'm disappointed. I thought we had a better rapport than that.
Well. I'm not a cat person, but I'd take them, you know,
if if I could. But I guess they'll have to go to a
good home or find some spot for him in a cardboard box on the street.
Okay, alrighty wait, please if I say anything, you have to
protect me. Okay, Oliver, Okay, I'm not in the protection game,
but okay, I will. I'll do my best. You gotta give
me more. What's in there. We were working on it, very secret
project. They'll kill me if I tell you you have to protect me.
Like I said, I'll do my best. Worth the LAPD. I do
my job pretty damn well. Please continue. You don't look like one of
them, not one of the ones that was in my group, who was
in your group. We were testing the replicans see which would blend in at
the LAPD the best. At this I take an intake of breath because that
is a lot to process, but she doesn't say anything. I don't I
don't know what they all look like, just our group. Okay, and
how successful was that operation? Are there any now at the LAPD that you
know of that are replicants? Yes, okay, that's the huge Oliver.
Please don't hurt my cat. We're not gonna hurt your cat. You've confirmed
some fears of mind for a while about replicants being in the LAPD. I
will make sure you are unharmed and protected here. I think that's enough questioning
for now. What I will say is that you probably can't go back to
Tyrell after this. You're gonna be You're gonna need to be in some sort
of protection program here at the LAPD. With that in mind, Oliver,
if there's anything else you can tell me at this point, it would be
greatly helpful. I'm greatly appreciated anything you're just if you can't keep it in
this is where, this is where it's Yeah, it would help. One
of the replicants, number seven he broke in m hm. It wasn't supposed
to be possible. He killed two of the others. It was so much
blood I can imagine would you say that this was a malfunction or would you
say this was an act of rebellion? In your opinion, Oliver, it
was an act of anchor rage. Is number seven currently at the LAPD?
As I know number seven? No, as you know them. It's pretty
specific. Are you telling me their likeness is at the LAPD? Hey,
I think that they changed number seven after what happened. Okay, that'll be
enough. That's enough for today, And like I said, I'll make sure
you're taken care of. Thank you for your cooperation today and thank you for
your patience. I know this was a lot to go through, but yeah,
it'll be okay. Your cat will be okay, and that'll be all.
You're free to go, well maybe not free to go. Let me
figure out where we're gonna place you first, because we want to make sure
that you're safe. So if you'll give me just a couple of minutes,
you staying here, I can grab you some water, some coffee, whatever,
water please, okay? And I leave the room and I go down
to the hallway and I am just taking deep breaths. Oh my god.
Okay, So it's everything we thought. It's everything we thought, and it's
plural sawyer I heard here. God damn it, all right, goddamn it,
how do we protect this guy? I mean, here's what I'm thinking,
Like, we have to put him in some kind of bunker. My
god, We're gonna have to keep him under under close lock and key creditation.
I mean, I don't think we're allowed to let us let him out
of our side and at this at this point, and that's for his own
safety. I do not think that he should. I mean, Nakiyama,
we haven't even seen him. What the hell. I think, to the
best of our ability, at least one of us should be with him whenever
possible. Maybe we can. I mean again, do we go to holden
immediately or so? I just don't think so. He was so scared.
He was so scared. I know he was. I mean, he was
terrified we could He's not a good liar. Like my hideout may not be,
you know, the least burned place, but I don't think any of
the people that wou'd be looking to kill him would be aware of it.
At least, so we could take him there at the end of the day
and just keep him under watch for the time being. Maybe there's a there's
got to be one or two people we trust in the LAPD or outside the
LAPD for that matter, that you and I can assigned to watch him for
the time being. Well across that bridge. For now, I think what
we should do is keep gathering information, wait until we can bring all of
it at once. And I'm shaking, and you can see that, like
I'm just there's there's a lot which we did. What you just think,
what you just unearthed might be the key to everything. I mean, if
it hinges, if it hinges on Oliver, I mean, I hate to
say it, but we're doomed. That guy. I don't think. I
don't think he could stand it. I don't think he could stand the pressure,
Sawyer. I mean I was getting I felt anxious off of his anxiety.
I mean, if that guy is scared, he's got trauma up.
The wahs and the way that we work through this water will work through this.
I think we should make him closer personally as a resource. I'm going
to keep a very close eye on him, all right. I'm not gonna
let him out of my side. One of us has eyes on him at
all times or not. I mean, he's okay, Okay, I'm gonna
grab some water. Then I'm gonna return back to the room, and then
I guess I'll fade out there. All right, roll me, Speth,
and while both of you actually roll me observation just normal, yep, actually
disadvantage. There is a good reason for that. Yep. I believe an
eight is still a success. Have he won success? Yeah? Okay,
one success? Who was it that rolled it? We both have one success,
one each. Okay, Okay, okay, okay, that's all I'm
gonna that's all I'm gonna tell you for now. I'll say that I'll bank
that, thank you. Okay, all right, all right, so you
are going back into we are actually going back to Selma and okay, our
quail, our cute little quail. Okay, as you deliver this water and
talk to him one more time about your plan. Okay, there you go.
It's not for much longer. We're figuring out a place for you to
stay. For the time being. It's likely going to be under the care
of another blade runner. You are earned the uh the heat down? Turn
the heat down? Oh do you want me to turn it? Turn it
down? Or sure? Are you men? You vomit theodo medical emergency right
now. All the way, we have to suspect that might might be uh,
I needed medical aid, okay, okay, on the way, on
the way, oh my god, ship ship ship, And I go over
and I think, I know, do God? Do I know CPR?
I mean, I don't even don't find a clue of this. Of course
I know CPR. I thank you God. So I reached down and I
just like attempt CPR. I'm pumping his chest. I'm probably like breaking some
ribs in the process. Come on, come on, let's roll medical okay,
uh normal disadvantage what we're working with, I would say, either disadvantage.
That's what I was gonna say, because this is insane. Yeah,
yeah, this is insane. Yeah it's zero. Okay, Okay, you
can push it absolutely means you're going to lose the resolve, and I need
you to mark that before the end of the episode for reasons. Okay,
Look, I make sure and how much resolve do you have, just so
that I know three? Three okay out of yep, yep. So I
lose one resolve okay, okay, I lose it? Uh I got a
one? Is that? Yes? That is a success. Okay, so
I think you can maybe get his heart started again for a second, but
then I'm gonna need well this big deal they get me out of holding.
Tell me emergency. Oh my god, that's perfect. Okay, okay,
oh are you are you? I'm doctor? What's him? Oh my god?
Friend here? Oh yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna
score doctor petrovic In and guy. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay,
hold on, hold on, let me let me pull Zeke in here.
He's right here, he's right here. He's not he's not responsible. I
don't even think he's breathing. So I forgot that. Okay, what happened?
I'm here now. I started choking. He just started choking. Okay,
okay, I get down and I started. I start compressions. I
started compressions. I listened for breath sign. I looked at him. I
roll for medical aide, roll for medical aid. Go for it, Okay,
roll and I'm going to push, push it. Lose your resolve.
I'm going to push this one. I get into okay, pretty success.
His ribcage breaks and cracks beneath you as you are giving him CPR. To
be afraid that that's happened. But I will tell you that you are unable
to resuscitate this man, not for your lack of skill or trying. It
is simply too late. But doctor, with that critical success, you can
absolutely identify that this man was poisoned. I look at the blood on ground,
Well, did he swallow something? He coughed up blood? He just
started coughing up blood. I immediately take the glass of water that he was
drinking from, and I set it aside, and I get onto the COLMS
dispatch. This is Detective Clark ordering an immediate lockdown on the LAPD. Nobody
and nobody out copy. That doesn't make any sense. I was drinking this
man. It's just looking This looks like poisoned. Job. It looked like
beds something eat he ingested and then they tried to body, tried to expel
it. Whether there's blood and in the foam and this is all good not
my expertise, but definitely I would say it's poison well SMA, I need
to get this water down to forensics right now, and they need to work
on this right away, down to framesis. Don't let this man out of
your sight right right. We also need to get ah, we need to
get someone up here to take care of the body. At this point.
Oh my god, thank you doctor for your help. I like, like,
I do my check. I look at like pupils and sclera to see
you if there's anything there. I make sure I keep my hand on pulse
just in case. Yeah, yeah, this man is dead. Had this
been caught maybe an hour ago, maybe, but it's too late now,
damn it. I think we're gonna switch scenes. Actually, I would like
to know what Selma is thinking right now. Fugg fuck fuck fuck. Oh
so close. It was so close. I mean, this man had all
the information. Of course he's poisoned. She doesn't say any of that,
but she's thinking it. She's thinking it, she's thinking it. She's she
feels so bad for him, and so like, oh god, so aggravated
because he was right there. Okay, uh no, don't mean to interrupt,
but poison guys. I'll take me back to holding out please, Yeah,
okay, right, yeah, I've definitely passed the water off to somebody
else at this stage, you know, sample this, check this. This
is a crime This is a crime scene. Now this is a murder scene.
Now, yeah, I look at him and I say, are you
sure you want to be in this line of work? He will just keep
on dying. I grab him by the arm and just discord about the corridor.
Back to hush, don't need okay, we are going to switch sea
here. Natalie is running down the corridor. The office is buzzing, people
are shouting. There is a lockdown happening. And she approaches an officer who
is escorting Sagan down the hallway and she says, we are absolutely we're in
lockdown. I'm going to escort him back now, and you go and help
and take care. Okay, thank you, thank you. And we walk
for a couple of moments before I lean into you and I say, I'm
the one who sent you the message, the warning message. It is me.
Oh oh yes, I cannot help you. I cannot help you.
I have to take you to them and they are going to interrogate you and
then they are probably going to kill you. You have to help. I
can't help you. I need your help. You said this place is in
lockdown. Can you get out? Probably? Maybe if I go quick?
Maybe? Why what's your need? Listen? I need a lot? Can
I trust you and don't go too fast? My wound still. Yes,
I will go as slowly as I can. There's a lot of chaos at
the moment. Yes, you can trust me, I will Yes, Yes,
that's what Skiff said. Okay, listen closely. Okay. Is he
Okay, he's okay, Okay, he's fine, Okay, safe, Okay,
Okay. There is a package that I have stored. I can give
you the address. You have to memorize it, okay, okay, Okay.
I need you to get it to place on the talks okay, okay.
And there's someone you'll meet there okay, and their name is then Okay,
that's all I need. But I need it to be there as fast
as possible, Okay, I mean within the next and then I I lean
over to her and I start whispering some stuff to her. I can't let
the camera and you kind of, oh, collapse into me. Quick Okay,
it's okay. I've got you. I've got you. Okay, tell
me what you need to tell me, and tell me quick. Okay,
You've got to get it to them within the next hour an hour and a
half. Okay, you have to okay, okay, Okay. You cannot
stop. Okay, you can't let anything stop you. Okay, you promise
me this, I promise. I believe you. Okay, let's keep going.
Okay, So I hear you like pie. I love it. Actually,
I like slice of cheese. That's right. I'd like to have a
slice every night while watching my favorite show. It is awful, but the
very good, like drunk TV, which one private lives. Don't judge.
That's horrible. I know all about it. You like it? Oh?
Are you kidding me? Tim hilarious? I know they do. He's not
written you. No, that's just it, you know, it's that.
I think he's playing straight man humor. I'm pretty sure. Well, okay,
I mean that's debatable, but he's just you know. I do like
how he seems to always be in the right place at the right time to
get the information that he needs. I think that's just bad riding. Oh
yeah, but that's just good. It's good. I think it works.
It works for it. Yeah, okay, I will not be able to
see you again. Oh no, I don't expect so that's okay. And
if I leave, I think they will not talk to Zen. Maybe they
can help you, but I can't promise. I don't know. It's okay,
i'd give you skiffs location, but yeah, I don't know. I
should not have it, I should have it. I think, I think
I am stuck, but I would rather die doing the right thing. Okay
in here, Yes, I have talk a few I'm sorry, of course,
of course. Oh mh mm hmmm. I'm I slip you something in
your hand as I help sit you down, and that is before I'm cuffing
you completely. But it is a little pill. I hold on to it.
Yeah, okay, just put that under your tongue quick. While I'm
shuckling your feet. I put it under my tongue. And as soon as
she gets me to the chair and sits down, and when her back is
to me, I spit it out. Okay, okay, good luck.
Oh I won't need it. Good luck to you. Thank you, I
probably will. Why are you doing doing this? Any good person would?
Good? Goodbye doctor, goodbye net and we will switch back to Sawyer and
Selma. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, all right, this is
another another day at work, right, yeah, something like that. Sure,
Selma's not okay, she's uh, she's not, she's not okay,
she's she just watched a man crumble and then die for nothing. So it's
it's really fucked her up. And now she's thinking, Okay, well,
I've got to take care of this cat. I can I ask you,
I can ask you a question, or actually I don't think it's a question.
I just need to say something. Yeah, I'm loyal to the LAPD.
I can't tell if the LAPD is loyal to itself, and I don't
know what to do with that, so I lean in. It's disintegrating,
sawyer. Okay, that's that's evident. I'm loyal to you, and you're
loyal to me, and we are loyal to the core of what this place
is meant to be, right, and that's what we can trust right now?
Mhm? Did they get the body down to the Morgan for inspection?
I'll talk. Yeah, they said they'll give us talk screen as soon as
possible. But it's whatever it was, it was. I think it was
delayed. All right, Well shall we? Okay, let's go right,
I go in Bristol because it looks like good evening. It is, isn't
it. Well, mostly, how was that wound healing? I think it
might take a little bit of time, but I am curious. I remember
being told to put my hands up in my hands on my head, and
then I was shot. And I'm pretty sure that's not procedure. Well,
when it comes to the BDU procedures, whatever the hell we say it is.
When there's replicants on scene, yeah, yeah, it seems like a
problem. Can I ask either of you two? What what time is it?
Is there a clock do I have? Is there any way to tell
the time in this? In this there's definitely no clock in the there's definitely
no clock in the interrogation room. That definitely would not be But okay,
if if if I could just look at your little at the time, please,
No, I don't think so, oh, I don't think really.
Yeah, I'm really curious actually, because you know what we do, right,
you understand very well? Yes I do. Okay, Well you look
like an old partner of mine. That was all the information I needed.
It doesn't mean in me. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy how that works.
How blade Runners just have that instant. That's how it is. We
don't need interrogation if we know you're a replicant. But I'm not. I'm
not a replicant, You're not. I am human just like you. No,
you have my file, open it up. There's nothing there other than
my entire life. I looked at research, I looked at Selma, and
I'm trying to figure out if this is a tactic or if she genuinely believes
this in this moment. I guess that's a role. Ass Oh, I
have no intension of rolling right now at all. Oh, okay, I'm
sorry. What am I rolling? What am I rolling here? Okay?
I don't think I would. I wouldn't be trying to conceal that fact because
Sawyer and I are both We're both on the same wavelength. We both know.
Okay, I'm muted. Sorry, Sagan has no idea. What is
about? You know what you are projecting here? Only Sawyer picks up on
this. But what does Sawyer get from you? I imagine we probably exchange
some kind of look and uh, I'd say something quippy like, well,
they all just look so fake to me, you know, are you fake?
Sorry? Go ahead, I look too. I looked to him and
say, okay, listen. September ninth, there was a break in at
the Tyrell Building. Yes I'm familiar. Yes, you were caught on various
security cameras as being present I have that footage here if you would like me
to play it for you, But I think we should skip over the pleasantries.
No, I was there, It's fine. What were you doing there?
What was taken? That's a little bit of a story. Do you
mind if I tell it? Please? Go ahead? If I could just
know the time, please, I've been stuck here. It's one of those
weird interrogation things. I know, I've been in here for a while.
It's just uncomfortable. Could I just know the time? Nope, there's something
very well, something you're waiting on. What do I have to wait on?
I'm stuck in here. Are you expecting someone to crash into the window
and save you? No, I don't believe I'll be saved today. Now.
Why is that? Oh? You have both been very forthcoming with your
violence and your ideology. I don't think I need to look too deep into
that. How about my story? Sure? Would you like to go ahead?
Please? I have been assisting with a few replicants for a while now.
There's a lot of ins and outs and roads, and you can press
me all you want for names and connections, but it will lead you nowhere.
That's sort of the point. But I don't mind telling you what happened
that day. A few individuals, replicants, if you will, but people
all the same made their way into the building. Now I don't know too
much about it until they finally got to me. They had a little trouble.
By the time they did get to me, I was able to help
them out the rest of the way. You see, there are a great
many floors at Tyrell, a lot of security things, things that you,
even if you were a part of the security, you might not be aware
of. I had a pretty good working knowledge of what would run where.
There are elevators that will only start on certain floors and end on others,
so it's a bit of a maze to get through. They wouldn't have had
a prayer of getting through if I didn't assist them. There's a botanical garden
that I like to sit in and the flowers are engineered but gorgeous, and
I waited there hoping they would arrive, and they did. All pleasantries aside,
we agreed to move forward. As we did, we went floor to
floor. One in particular, which was very interesting. There was this security
door that it could destroy organic material, but that material that has been created.
I don't exactly understand the science behind it, and it's not my field,
but it took a little bit of work to get through it damage my
eyes in the process, both going through and coming back. Now, I
am I to assume that you don't have a file of any of this information.
Was this never reported, it would be Tyrrell's you know, motus operandi
has it were to not report this? But did you hear anything about this?
Speaking as the lapdes former tyrrel A Son, I can tell you that
Terrell is not entirely forthcoming when it comes to information pertaining to it's building or
its operations. So no, good, Okay, Well we continued forward.
You see, there is a project, one of many that Tyrrell has.
This one was particularly dangerous a poison, a virus, something along those lines,
very dangerous. Uh huh. And what kind of poison is this one
that was particularly dangerous to replicants? Hm hmm? What were the uh reactions?
The reactions in what way? What do you mean? Well, you
say it's particularly damaging to replicants house so well, I think it was obvious
it kills them, right, poison tends to do that. But what I'm
saying, is what were the how how does it kill them? Asphyxiation or
hemorrhage or no? No, nothing possible? Inelegant? No no, no,
no no no it was if I remember correctly, it breaks down.
I think at the cellular level. I want to say it liquefies them.
I think that's probably the closest that you could get to an explanation to what
it does. Sell Beth, Yes, and in virus format, which means
if you can catch it, you can spread it. I don't know if
it was virulent to humans as well. It's possible it was, and it
was just inert, but you are still a carrier. Again, it's a
lot of speculation anyway, carel developed a bio weapon? Well, yes,
are you surprised? No, I'm not. Well there you go. The
only surprise you. I mean, how do you know about this? How
do we know whether or not we can believe what you're saying? Well,
let me first say that, and these are not my words. These are
words that I heard. But I think for two individuals like yourself, it
would make sense. When you create a machine, you want an off switch,
That's what was said. But how do you do this? Was this
was a fail safe. I mean, I suppose again, I don't know.
The biggest issue with this, there was a problem with the aging.
You surely are aware the lifespan is incredibly short. It has been one of
the projects to figure out a way to fix this issue. In sixes are
locked in four years. That's all you get. That is not great for
business in one regard, and in another, well for some of us,
we think it's a bit cruel. So the issue was is that they were
attempting to create something that would allow the already living in sixes to continue their
lifespan. This was a result of that, but it had its values.
To Tyrell, Eldon Tyrell specifically, he thought it best to keep this and
it was kept in an incredibly safe area that was almost impenetrable. I'm getting
a little thirsty. Could some water? We're not doing water right now.
I'm afraid all out. Maybe we should think about maybe, I look at
Sawyer, we should think about more than water. Do you excuse us,
Sagan, just for just for a moment, of course, please, I'll
be right back with you. Take your time. I'm not going anywhere.
Yeah, once we're out, what do we want to get a full medical
team down here. Now, what if he's just a replicant. What if
he's thirsty, What if he's so thirsty and the same thing happens all over
again? You want to get him checked over. I mean, listen,
listen what happened. If I'm understanding correctly what he said, what happened to
Quail, that doesn't describe what he's talking about. That was that was like
a hemorrhaging of some kind. That was a violent, a violent reaction to
something something slow acting. Though what he's describing is would manifest completely differently.
I'm not a biologist, but that is if we Oliver. Yeah, that
is, if he's telling the truth, of course, but we should probably
have them do a biohazard sweep of the entire Florida just to be safe.
Maybe I think we should. If he's asking for water, we should definitely
have somebody down here now, okay, all right, ten minutes ago especially,
I don't know, all right, we'll get a medical specialist up here,
but yeah, I would. I would appreciate if we could get somebody
down here now or up here to assess him right away. Yeah, right
away. In that case, we don't have a lot of time to talk
to him, because it's possible he's already might be on the clock. So
the questions we ask are going to have to be precise, so we can't
waste any time with him. Can you can you help take over? I
feel like I'm losing my mind. I'll get in there. Do you want
to get medical and I'll get started. All right, I'll head down there.
I head back in there as quickly as possible and sit down. I'm
trying to be as blank faced as possible. I'm going to ask you a
point blank question. I just want to point blank answer. What do you
know about replicants in the LAPD? Nothing? Do you mean a program to
have replicants in the LAPD for what paperwork? No understand What do you know
about replicants that would be designed to be unaware of their existence as replicants?
Programmed with memories so that they are unaware of their status as a replicant.
I don't think I've ever heard anything specifically about that. Programmed with memories,
you say, with memories, but not aware of I don't think I'm are
you feeling? You feeling the right? Aside from the gunshot wound? Where
is your trigger happy partner. By the way, we're both pretty trigger happy.
At the end of the day. She's just taking care of something fortunate,
tugar happy. You know, I'm giving you information threats her only for
sadistic purposes at this point. Surely I am not sadistic. You were telling
a story before we rudely interrupted you. Would you like to continue? Oh?
Yes, yes? Where? Where? Where? Where was I?
Where was I? What was this project called? Oh? The project name?
That's right. I can give it to you. But you're not going
to find anything. You're not going to find Well, maybe you will,
are you? Finnah? I'm pretty resourceful. I like birds. You do
like birds? I do well this one at the name nighthowl attached to it.
I couldn't tell you the importance or significance of that. I just know
that is something that was there. I think. Uh, I would like
to connect some dots in Sawyer's brain right now. Narrator, Yeah, you
don't know. I mean, you don't need my permission. I mean,
if you think Sawyer would have connected the dots, go for it. If
you want to roll for it, just so you feel good about it,
we can do that too. Whatever you want. I think I think,
I think I'm gonna do it. I think I'm gonna do it. Yeah,
I think it makes sense. Go on click Avari tricks, Yes,
Strick Xavaria yesh. Wow, that is a name that sent me down a
very long road that has landed me in front of you here today. Was
it a good journey? I don't know yet. Fair Would you like to
know more of the story? I would? Do you have the time?
I'd like to make any insight man, I want to make an insight check
on this, very very much. Sure. I got a one. Typically
it would be insight versus your manipulation. Do you still have Sagan's character sheet?
Oh? I don't. We never made one for him. I don't
think I think we did. But let me just double chick. I have
a few, but I don't see that one. I do. I see
this one? Okay, I will roll for you. Thank you? Didn't
that go through? Mm hmm, I got Jesus Jesus Christ. Kay.
So for those listening, Sawyer got a one, which is a success,
but Sagan got a three, which is you know, three critical, critical
critical critical? Yeah, what you read double critic from this old man?
Is that obviously he's he's slide to some degree, you can see that.
But when he asks about the time, it sounds like he's stir crazy.
You think he's just been inside for too long. You left him to sit
here with his pain. He doesn't know the time, he doesn't know how
long he's been awake. That's what you're thinking. Okay, listen, it's
read, doctor, read. Oh, formalities are unnecessary. You just Sagan.
It's fine. Okay, Sagan, I'm Detective Clark. If you finish
your story, I'll tell you what time it is. Okay, fair enough,
right, Ah, the door caused a little bit of an issue,
implants, you see, and really I reflexively touched my own right eye as
he says, implants, you know, these these are not the ones I
had. Unfortunately that machine destroyed them. I had to get another set,
beautifully done by the way, lovely lady named Rose. Anyway, we continued
on past this point. Now, the amount of obstacles in our way were
a few, but not too much. On the elevator up, one of
the individuals I won't give you their name, told us that they had a
mission to do, and that mission was to destroy this nighthow. I don't
know the ins and outs of all of them and what their plans were,
who's doing what, but he was wired up to do so it was heartbreaking
to see him go. He detonated. But this was fairly on the inside
of the Tyrrel building, and you can understand that. I doubt there was
any real recognition that this happened unless you were close and then we left.
That is my story, And I know the time. That's your whole story.
Well, yes, that's it. What time is it currently, narrator?
Mm, I say you've been doing this all day actually, so it's
probably I don't know, five to six pm. I'll let you to say
that it's quarter to six, quarter two six. How long do you think
I've been in this room too long? Probably forty minutes to an hour or
something like that. Has it been longer than that? I am look at
you very intently. So you betrayed your own kind to do what exactly?
I betrayed No one, not in the eyes of the law. Well,
the law is not always right, is it. You are speaking to change
police officer. Sure they do. You know they change they changed to very
recently. In fact, yes they did, Yes, they did. There
was no betrayal by helping some replicants get something that could kill them. Even
the replicants that are doing their jobs properly, not illegally, following through with
what you would call their programming, they would have died to Is that justice?
Would that been okay in your eyes? I guess you probably don't feel
any remorse if that had have happened. But let's look at it economically.
What would that have done? The workforce that Tyrrel has been able to create
an employ has become well one of the legs of the table, as it
were. Without it, Oh, everything would topple over and fall off,
wouldn't it. This was dangerous, very dangerous. Weapons typically are dangerous.
Agreed, It's one of the reasons why replicas are so dangerous. Sure,
you build a weapon, it makes sense you build another weapon to keep it
in check. I don't particularly care for the ethics of this bioweapon. Does
Terrell have another? To my knowledge? I do not think so. But
Tyrell is very secretive. You'd have to see for yourself, honestly, But
I want to say no. And the one that was removed, where is
it now? Oh? Who said it was removed? Something was taken from
that building? Oh? Is that right? And what was that? Something
was taken from that building? I don't know. What All I have is
a security footage. I have a couple of scattered statements, a lot of
ourdactive documents, because that is how Tyrell operates. You understand how Tyrell operates
because you've operated with Tyrell. So why don't you tell me where it is
and what it is? Could I see the footage? Are you sure you're
seeing what you think you see? Was it a good angle? I stand
up very slowly and lean on the back of the chair. What was rose
like that? He remembers people that I've met, kind to a fault,
suspicious from time to time, caring, loving, a good friend. I
start very slowly walking around the preiter of the room. Can you give me
some reasons why I should keep you alive at this stage? Information that you
were happy to furnish me with locations of replicants or their sympathizers. You know,
I might if I could just ask for that time one more time?
Has it been about ten or fifteen minutes since then? Has it been less
than that? Where are we sitting there? We're very eager to know what
time it is, aren't you? Oh? Yes, And I tell you
what If you tell me the time, I'll tell you why it is fifty
five pm. Why this is interesting, isn't it? So vast things can
get lost so easily. I'm afraid that the night Owl is quite out of
your grasp as it should be, especially for someone who as violent and sadistic
as yourself. You will not be finding it, not now or not ever.
And I appreciate you listening to my story. Detective. I have some
good news for you. Okay, I'm not going to retire you. You're
going to kill me. That's correct, doctor, And I should have the
heart mm hmm. Yeah, I've uh just kind of collected myself a little
bit. I wasn't medical, but I'm coming back into into interrogation Room three.
And I pushed the door open, and you see Bill. He is
bloodied and looks very weak, and he looks up at you and smiles fiercely.
Hey, Selma, Well sorry, why are you here? Hm?
I go over to him. I was I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't fast
enough. Yeah, I sit down, I put all my glasses. Look
at the file sheet. That's on the table in front of me. Can
you tell you your name and your date of birth? I don't do this.
What else am I supposed to do? I change this? Christ Bil?
I can? I can? I attacked you. I talked you.
I attacked you. Don't make me do this, Bill, don't make me
do this. Bill. I can't do this here. Either you or somebody
else comes in here and bucks me up for a few hours. Ah.
I lean across the table, put my hand on his cheek, and I
lean in and I kiss him, and I take on my gun and then
I shoot him in the head and then I feel nothing. That's when I
really feel nothing. Nothing comes out, nothing goes away. Put my gun
down on the table. Who am I? What have I done? What
have I done? M hmm? Hello, This is Pumpkin Perrier, director
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