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The following is a presentation of play
Fly Sports properties. Welcome to another episode

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of this This is Sparta. I
am your host Jason stray Or, along

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Wi co host Otis Wiley and jay
U to Q Corick. It is December

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the sixth, Tuesday, twenty twenty
two, and we just had a jam

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Pack weekend Conference Championships. NFL portal
opened up yesterday. Stuff is flying all

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over the place right now. People
will now the CFB, the colleg football

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Playoff that is it's set. Mischigan
State now knows it's fade. As far

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as the bowl game or not,
We're gonna get into all those things.

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But right now we're gonna talk about
what happened this weekend. We're gonna go

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first off with the Pack twelve championship
USC they fall. Oh yes, you

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see, you know this game was
I think obviously closer than the score.

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You know, you saw Caleb Williams
get you know, twisted up and playing

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on a bad foot. Uh and
at times where he was legitimately couldn't even

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move be mobile snapping the ball,
and you know, I think that was

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a real detrimental effect for that team
trying to make a comeback and it's like,

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you know, take him to the
locker room, let the back of

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at least do something, because you
know, Caleb Williams offensive threat. I

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mean it's his legs and so you
take that away. He's one dimensional and

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you know it's tough to see as
he was trying his best and then trying

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to battle through. But Utah also
played a great game. But the PACTOL

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Championship clearly, Uh you saw what
is what set this thing off? Man?

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Where Jay's last episode, Jay,
you wanted to put some presson on

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the ball committee, so he got
he got his well wishes on that one

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for sure. Yeah, definitely Utah. You got to give him credit.

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They came out ready to play this
USC team because at this point of the

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season, USC was firing all cylinders
and they were coming in hot, and

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uh, you know, Caleb Williams, he was feeling himself. He had

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the f Utah written on his on
his fingernails, ready to go, and

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that came back to bite him in
the butt. But you know that was

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it was a it was a good
game. Utah pulled it off. Congratulations

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to them, right, Caleb Williams
a guy who came in I mean the

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fourth ranked team in the country.
It was in their hands as far as

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the destiny if they were going to
go to the College Football Playoffs, have

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a chance to play for a national
championship. In Lincoln Riley's first year at

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USC, you know, wasn't able
to punch their ticket to the College Football

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Playoffs. But do you think that
Caleb Williams, since Blake Horn has gone

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down, is still the clear cut
favor for the Heisman Trophy even after that

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gutsy performance he had in a losing
effort against Utah. Oh, that's a

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tough one because they're both, they're
both you know, he's putting least stats

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on the board, and I think
that's you know, to his his advantage.

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And you know, Blake Corn had
a nice you know, stats seat

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before he went down, and I
can only imagine what he would have put

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up on Ohio States defense if he
was playing. Because his counterpart did the

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thug dizzle on himself. Yeah,
I think, you know, well,

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you can't you can't falt guy for
playing an extra game. You can't hold

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that against him for getting his team
further and playing in the in the championship,

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in the conference championship. So I
think he did enough to solidify himself

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throughout the season that he is that
guy, and it clearly showed that he

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is the heartbeat of that team because
when he went down, that's when the

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wheels started falling apart for USC.
Yeah, clearly a dynamic player. You

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know, not a lot of us
in Big ten country get a chance to

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watch USC on a daily basis because
we're focused on a Big Ten. But

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this is a team that will be
in the Big ten good point years,

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you know. So that's why we're
tracking what's going on out there. You're

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seeing the emergence of all the new
coaches that are coming into the Big Ten.

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Is gonna be a very exciting conference
from coaches and players and just the

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overall footprint. But as we move
on to the Big twelve championship game,

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TCU, which is was in a
prime position to punch their ticket to a

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college football playoff, goes into overtime
and loses the game. And uh wasn't

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enough though when you look at it, you know, number three and four

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guys both lost going into this college
football playoffs, this conference championship season or

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weekend, and one team was knocked
out in the USC was to open the

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door for Ohio State, but TCU
losing a close game wasn't enough for BAMA

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to leap frog them to get into
the playoffs. Yeah, shout to some

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guys that got on that camp,
the state staff that was I was with

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at SMU, you know, the
head strength conditioning coach Tuma and Carroll Uh

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you know, he's a he's a
dude right there. And then you know

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when you look at this this game
like this game was this game was nice,

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Like it was an opportunity to showcase
obviously the Big twelve as you know,

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they saw Texas you know, going
to the SEC soon and then you

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have Oklahoma as well, and so
you know, looking at this opportunity for

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Kansas State to put this on the
map of you know, TCU spoiling it

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and they, I mean TCU was
it was they were nervous. I think

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we talked about this where you know, they was I didn't want to see

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a case of they got this party
going and they don't get in. Like

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I felt that kind of close on
this vote here. But from being it

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so close and then beating you know, top team in TCU, you know,

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I think that show that TCU does
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the CFP College Football Playoffs four top
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that was was it was close at
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knew TCU win or lose their end. I did not think it was close.

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You know, they already beat Kansas
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though it was a close game.
But once again, like I said,

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you can't fault a team for you
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And I know before we talked about
us Caleb Williams, you know,

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etching his name on that Heisman Trophy. But who I would not be surprised

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to see at that Awards cereony as
TCU's Max dug In the quarterback that gets

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an absolute dog. You could see, you know before that when he drove

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him down there and he was just
so tired and just leaving everything on the

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field. You know, that kid's
a dog. And I would not be

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surprised if he got the call to
go to New York for the Heisman.

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Very interesting the whereas we move on
down south to the SEC Conference with the

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number one Georgia Bulldog's face l SU. It was an exciting game, but

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Georgia just too much for the Tigers
as they roll fifty to thirty in that

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ball game. An absolute statement game
for the Georgia Bulldogs. They knew going

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into this game they had to go
in there and beat the dog heck eyes,

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we're in the locker room. Beg, it's all right. Georgia had

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to go there and beat the dog
shit out of approval point that they're still

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the big boy on the block.
And that's exactly what they did. This

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game had nothing to do with you
know, Kirby Smart and them could care

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less about winning the SEC championship.
They have the national title on their minds

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and that game making a statement and
striking fear, you know, making opponents

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be like, damn you guys know
what it's like. You know what it's

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like when you see on your schedule
a team and that team's coming up and

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you you're watching them and they're hanging
points on teams and they're being dominant.

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Now you're you're there's a little self
doubt that creeps in there a little bit.

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So absolutely, you know, Georgia
came out to make a statement and

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that's exactly what they did. They
put the entire college football playoffs. On

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notice. Listen, they're going back
to back like no one's no one's stopping

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the Georgia Bulldogs. I mean,
well, well, well we will talk

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about that. I know we'll talk
about it. My stance is, and

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we will argue this later down the
road here so now tonight. But those

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boys, those boys got it man
and LSU, I mean, Coach Kelly

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and that team. It was like
they are who we thought they were and

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some so obviously we were gonna talk
about this later down the road, but

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it was a It was a game
that you thought would be possibly more closer

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than what it was. But Georgia
had the whole thing, the entire way.

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So you know that fan base is
crazy, man, and they got

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some guys and dudes on that team
that can truly play at the next level

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right now in my opinion. So
with LSU, you know, they paid

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Brian Kelly all that money to come
in. And my thought on this on

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Brian Kelly is, you know you
have these guys you have like the New

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York Yankees had Mariolo Marioloa Rivera.
He was the closer they played inner Sandman

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when he comes in because you knew
he was gonna get it done. Brian

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Kelly does not have a closing bone
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team in the big games. Every
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they get shellacked. When he was
at Notre Dame, when they gave them

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playoff chances, BCS chances, all
those things get shellacked. And now he's

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in the SEC. He's gonna make
it to the SEC Championship game, and

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what's gonna come out is his lack
of in game adjustments and he's gonna get

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shellacked every time because he can't close. He put up thirty points though on

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George. Now that's the one thing. He put up a lot of yards

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and thirty points. So it wasn't
as if they didn't move the ball or

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have any success. Yes, that
defense was was getting suspect a little bit,

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so he put up thirty points on
them. But if you look at

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this box score here, you know
Georgia did all their work early and you

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know, and then they chilled and
relaxed at the end there, So it's

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not you know, I'm talking Earth, You got to start fast and go

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second quarter Georgia outscored n LESU twenty
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They had those boys in the bag. Hey, I don't know if

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they the foot off the gas when
they were up twenty five points. I

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think it was they decided to go
for two because it was a statement game

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for them, the game they try
to make a splash. Yeah, they

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did that. They definitely did that. Now as we move on to all

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right Neck of the Woods, the
Big Ten Championship game down at Lucas Oil

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in Indianapolis, Michigan, that school
down the road face Purdue in the Big

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Ten Championship Game. Hats off to
Purdue because they may most likely will not

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be into this championship game anymore as
conference or divisions may go away. Purdue

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may never see this again. It's
just I'm just be keeping it real.

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So if that being said, Misi
Smith, we talked about this in our

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breaking news show. Would he played, and we said, look, there

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was no doubt in any of our
minds that he was not only going to

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play in the game, but he
was out there for the coin toss and

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then we even have him celebrating at
the end with the trophy in the background.

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Yeah, I kind of not last, but Jim Harmo's reference in that

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recent article of Today was like,
I've never seen somebody say hayter ay and

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hater tops what does that even?
You know? Mean? Clearly the rules,

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like we talked about are are are
different there. And we talked about

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the photo of you know, Mazzie
Smith plainting the suiting gun suthing fingers at

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the trophy like almost like I'm getting
off, I'm cool and clean. I

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got support. That game was if
you think about, for dude, getting

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into the red zone and cannot convert. If they've converted all those the field

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goals to touchdowns, it'll be probably
a different story if you look at it.

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That's just my opinion. When you're
looking at that game, I'm trying

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to take my hater right off of
here, but no hater tots over here,

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boy, But think about how many
times you got in the red zone

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and convincingly driving the ball down there
and they just couldn't convert in the red

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zone. So those field goals,
I mean, you can't catch up and

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keep up and keep getting field goals
when Michigan was still scoring, Yeah,

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exactly, you can't. You can't
exchange three points for six points every time

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you're down there. Uh, you
know, and like you said, and

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going into the half, it was
a one point game. Uh, but

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Purdue did not have the moxie and
the sustainability to go through and uh and

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hang with the Wolverines. And you
know, like straight said, kudos to

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Purdue, thanks for coming. See
you in the next decade. And then

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we can't get that Cora back because
we hey, we've been We've been in

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that three times, so you know, we we we've been there and then

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we've been there. And just just
so do you guys just read the Heisman

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finalists are just announced. Step hasn't
been it, Max Duggan, ce J's

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Trout, and Caleb Williams. We
just talked about Caleb now, I mean

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that don't sleep off Stepson. The
number one team in the country, you

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know, the Georgia Bulldogs. That
kid, you know, I know he's

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getting those security as a college.
He's like Chris Winky was mur Chris wink

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from Oh Yeah. But but I
know you guys gonna laugh at me.

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I said this earlier that Max Stuggan
My sources, My sources are telling me

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that guy is a sneaky favorite for
that Heisman Trophy. I'm not saying he's

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gonna win it, but he's gonna
be He's gonna surprise a lot of people

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in the voting, and that's gonna
shift around a lot of these votes here

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for these these Heisman Trophy winners here. Oh yeah, you you kind of

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wish that they were like prolonging the
Heisman passed to see a P championship.

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Yeah, this is you got what
all four? What all four of them

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is? Besides Ken threw the three
out of the four that's playing in in

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more more exclusive high you know,
bowl games and CFP. So I feel

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like maybe this is the Iceland a
cake Like it's close neck and neck,

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it's your body of work on the
season. It's your body of work on

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the season. I get that,
but I'm saying they should reconsider and and

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how how how how much do you
smile to see uh Blake krum left off

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after the treatment that h K nine
got last year and all those guys there

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ain't no doubt about it. I
agree, it's amazing. Blake, what's

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this is? Sta? What was
the final stat? Like? Obviously K

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nine is last season to Blake corm
season. I know they both had eighteen

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touchdowns, but Kin had about two
hundred more yards than Blake. Now,

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granted Blake missed what two and a
half game something like him, that's on

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him. That's on him. Hey, that's coming from a Fumer runner.

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That's the running back talking right.
I saw Javon Ringer had a moniscus tear

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two weeks he was back, so
I had some loose bone chips floating in

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there, got that scope, the
moniscus moved around a little bit. I

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was back out there. That's on
him. He's I know exactly what he's

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doing. I don't you know.
He's preparing himself for the next level.

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He's not risking or anything like that. So this opportunity to ext your name

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on the Heisman Trophy to you know, be in the Nissan Heisman commercial,

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the Heisman house wasn't important enough to
him. So I'm not gonna sit here

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and feel bad for him. And
I love those facts. And I hope

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that people down the road are burning
couches and saying, you know, Blake

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Korm got screwed because Blake Korm screwed
Blake Korm Ooh, hey, you know,

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maybe it's just me. I see
the damage. I remember watching Javon

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Ringers injury, like I saw that
happen. Yeah, this one I didn't

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even I don't know. I mean, he's getting surgery whatever, But man,

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you know, he's a tough kid. There's no I can't take anything

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away from that. But I just
didn't see it being like a catastrophic injury,

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you know, like one of those
who was the Clinton Ports the kid

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from Miami, and that just got
his need. McGehee willis McGahee, you

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know, like KRM. He he's
protecting this as his investment and rightfully so

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he should do that. So he
has no other years eligible to play it,

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doesn't he have extra years. He's
going to do the league, absolutely

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none. He's going to the league. That's why he's not. If he

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was coming back next year, he
would be playing in the college for he's

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gonna have a month to to get
that surgery recover. He's gonna have a

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But he's he's going to the league. That's why he's not gonna That's why

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he's not playing. He's gonna declare
for the league. He's got to declare

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for the league because of Donovan Edwards. You know, Donovan is clearly the

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new feature back at Michigan as you
see the production that he's had the last

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two weeks. Another guy that you
know when you look at that matchup,

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if you see Michigan is gonna be
playing TCU in the first round of playoffs

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out in Phoenix and Michigan, and
then you're gonna have Georgia, you know,

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yeah, oh yeah, that's gonna
be a difference. You know,

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right there, you're gonna see,
Like it's hard for us to say this,

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but it looks like it's going to
be a Georgia Michigan national title game

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the way things are matching up right
now. And as you said, old

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as you think that there's nobody that's
gonna beat Georgia, I disagree with that.

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I totally disagree with that. Listen, listen. I disagree with one.

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I'm a hard for frog this this
next month. And that's not the

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it's this, it's this. Yeah, it's like that, you know what

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I mean? The horn fraud.
They got different things, the horn frogs.

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Yeah, because you got what hook
them horns? Craziness, right.

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I truly believe that t c U
when they play ball, they're they were

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forced to be reckoned with. And
I'm saying that because Sunny Dice got those

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guys rolling and year one coming to
Fra coming straight from down the road,

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and that's in you. I just
feel like if their defense makes the proper

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stops, that offense is electric.
So it's one of those things that Michigan

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got tied up on that secondary because
uh produced was getting busy back there,

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you know, one on one.
So it's just kind of things where I

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think it's gonna be more evenly played. They're like, they may get Michigan

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or off of your money. I
agree with you one hundred percent. Otis.

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I think TCUs firing all cylinders that
the key for them in that game.

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They're gonna have to make two crucial
stops defensively so they can get that

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advantage. And and you know,
to be the one that's not chasing.

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When I say not chasing, I
mean you know that are up all the

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time and the Michigan has to tie
them or go ahead. You know,

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they can't be chasing, so they
have to get those two crucial stops there.

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And if I'm a Michigan fan,
you know I'm not you know,

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he he ha, hid over here
because I think on the other side of

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that bracket there don't sleep on the
Ohio State Buckeyes. And if you get

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Ohio State and it's Michigan Ohio State
and Michigan fans think we already beat them

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once. As my Grandpapy will always
say, the same thing to make you

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laugh, will make you cry.
Oh, we've heard that one already.

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Okay, this is true. It
could be a rematch. I mean,

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Michigan versus Ohio State. But you
know, as you said, TCU very

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formidable upon it. I mean I
did get a chance to watch them against

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Texas in that ball game, and
in Texas tried to come back late in

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that ball game to make it competitive, but TCU just throttled them. You

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know, physically, that team is
not the typical Big twelve team the way

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that we traditionally know the Big twelve
to be high offensive output, very little

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defensively, not very big upfront.
This team looked very stout up front.

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They can run the ball at will, and they can play defense. Man.

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I mean, this is an exciting
matchup. I think the playoff committee

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got it right in the four teams
that they selected, and I think whoa,

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whoa, whoa the playoff coman.
You're the one that was saying Alabama

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was gonna get in. See here
we go. Oh listenby let me tell

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you something. The lobby for Alabama. This carried on till Tuesday, which

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today, and it wasn't on selection
on Sunday. I'm telling you those voters,

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those people that are in that committee
could have been swayed the fact that

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on Sunday at noon as early as
it has been in a while. By

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the way, and you've seen all
that out for the support at the TCU

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facility. Did you guys watch the
show. Did you see how many people

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were there, how many cameras were
there? There were no cameras in there.

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There was no there were no Rolling
Tide team meetings and cameras around there.

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They didn't That's why they weren't there, because they knew they weren't gonna

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be You have two losses, there's
no way you're going in. I don't

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give a damn who's coaching you,
Nick Saban, Jesus Moses, anybody.

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You're not going to get in.
You're not gonna get in over a one

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loss team that played in a conference
title game. When you were sitting at

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home and you lost to Tennessee listen, listen, you seem very angry about

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it. Listen, Look, the
media had always got Nick saving in that

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nice Crimson Crimson colored vast jacket.
Hey, what was he that on Fox

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during the Big Ten Championship He was
up little lobbying like we deserve to be

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in this, Like, hey,
man, it's okay to go to a

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regular ball game, like those days
are gone, those days are gone.

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You had an opportunity. Nickas gonna
give him hell no matter what. Look,

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man, all I'm saying is that
lobby is heavy to be considered.

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See tell you you gotta understand that
you're you're saying the two loss Sea.

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There's a lot of two loss teams. I didn't see their coaches on,

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you know, during the Big Ten
Championship game talking coming on TV, breaking

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in there like hey, talking about
I mean, the only chip he had

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to play was the point spreads and
and favoritism as far as vegans is concerned,

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which is it's a weak argument.
Also, strength and strength is schedule,

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Like, Bro, you got those
matchups right and balling right to the

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top teams, but then you play
those cupcakes like McNee State and Citadel out

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of the eighty two Bowl eligible teams, which could State was not able to

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backdoor a Bowl spot with five wins. As we found out this past weekend

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and championship weekend that teams like Buffalo
and they were able to get to their

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sixth win and mischis State will not
be bowling this year. Well, AnyWho,

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we are at the crib. We
aren't the page. We are one

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short, shooting ourselves in the foot
because we had the opportunity to get LOO

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eligible. But I think from the
standpoint of all the injuries, all what

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we went through like it's probably for
the best in my opinion, but it's

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an opportunity to turn the page and
truly focus on how do we get this

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back on track now? Roster management
coming, shuffling, transfer portal, you

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know it is it is a twenty
four hours day they leave this month where

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they are truly looking how do we
set this up for success next season,

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which we need all the time to
get healthy but also develop what we got

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and what we're going to try to
bring in here. My question is,

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you know, how do you you
know you hit on it? You know,

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how do you refresh the page?
Do you use to transfer portal as

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a you know, as a splash
as an NFL slash free agency market there,

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or do you go the traditional route
that not a lot of people are

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doing, Not a lot of colleges
are doing it because coaches aren't afforded the

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time that they were afforded hell three
years ago by recruiting kids, bringing in

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those classes, having that blood,
sweat and tears together from freshman, sophomore,

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junior, senior year. You know, you know, how do you

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do that and what's their approach to
that. Do you just go into portal

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and get a couple guys and then
rely on high school guys coming in and

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building a culture and building program,
or do you continue to hit the portal

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and bringing guys in from all walks
of life in different areas and hoping to

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find this bond for them. Well, guys, there's a lot that needs

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to happen. I think for misc
stated to get back on track. I

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think that mel Tucker and the staff
is going to work through these things through

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the transfer portal, through high school
recruiting. Right now, you know,

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the portal just opened up a day
ago. The guys are on the road.

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The coaches have been on the road
to see them. You know,

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they were with one of the Prize
recruit standing the kid, the big big

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offensive lineman out of Alabama. Uh, it looks like Mel was there with

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Jay Johnson and coach kat all eating
very very good in the neighborhood down there

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at almost like a family reunion type
of dinner. So you know they're out

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there sealing up, making sure those
guys aren't being flipped. They're trying to

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get new recruits. They're they're fishing
the portal and then they're working to see,

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you know, which guys they want
to save on our own roster right

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now and doing roster management from that
aspect. But you know, if you're

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listening right now, you know I
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of Jack the state twelve and oh
still has a championship game to play now

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the new coach for the Colorado Buffalos. Uh. First of all, shout

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out to the creative marketing crew here
h this photo shop and got the icy

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snow mountains on the Ona sades.
Uh. They pimped uh prime time coach

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Prime very well out coming out to
marketing this this move. You know,

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Jay, you already said his sources
had UH had told him already that that

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was happening, and clearly he was
correct. So keep on bringing that information

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that classified information here. You know, there's that clip of that you know

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sports broadcaster or the news local guy
that was interviewing beyond that, Like I

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feel like we need to show that
clip. But it was a hilarious interact

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with coach Prime on talking about,
you know, hinting at hey, you

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know, do you got a room
do you want to come to Denver with

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me to go see a football game? And Coach Prime is just saying,

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you know what you're talking about?
Man, Like this is before they even

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did the championship game, and so
they just bust out laughing. But we

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should saw a little clip of that. One of my favorite teams in Kansas

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City Chiefs right now. Yeah,
next week they played at Denver Broncos in

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Colorado. I'm going with you and
you we're gonna ride together. It's good.

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Now, that's a good one.
That's a good one. There,

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I got in it. Now that's
the good one. That's a good one.

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There, that was a good one. Come on, sit back down

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here, come on, So why
are you going to do your boy like?

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No, no, no, no, I coach I never been I've

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never been there, but I'm going
I'm going there. Well, I'm going

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next week when the Chiefs played Bronco
Colorado, Never Colorado. What you're trying

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to say? I just want to
know what we ride together? Why am

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I going? What you think?
Well? Let so they're playing Okay,

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this week my team played the Bengals. I'm just asking. You told me

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that I ain't tell you what you
told the fella. They told the man

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they'll ask a question. He asked
a questions and you he asked all this

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stuff about your beard and all that
you used that. But when I asked

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you, can I ride with you
to Colorado? Why would you? Why

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would you assume I'm going to Colorado? Don't you could have been to all

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these places. I've never been to
Colorado? Would you assume I'm going to

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Colorado? I'm just good stuff?
You playing at the room? Yes,

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season be over with and look and
season be on. So we got we're

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going to get were going to get. You gotta stop, man, Okay,

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this is good though, this is
you, this is yours. You

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thought that thing got no but you
ask you no questions about none of that

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I appreciate. But coach Prime and
a d Rick George. Uh. When

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I used to work with with my
last employer, I was running all of

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the Lead one association, that's all
the fbs A flooded directors in the country

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and Power Power five Division one and
we always have this conference and so uh

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00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.000
the A. D Rick George was
on the board of Lead one at the

408
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.359
time, and you know, always
interacting with him, it is always it

409
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.960
was always like a good, good
interaction. And you know, him going

410
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:54.000
out to pay what Coach Prime you
know is worth and giving him an opportunity

411
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:59.880
to get into the Power five speaks
volumes on you know, his decision making

412
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.559
on there, and so I think
that this is a great move man,

413
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.679
It's an opportunity of upward mobility.
I know that we're getting a lot of

414
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:14.280
issues on the on the on the
social handles with with them talking about you

415
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.360
know, how did he give up
on the kids that he had there at

416
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:22.079
Jackson State, And that's a topic
of conversation, but he is this is

417
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.559
a good move. This is also
talking about the press conference and also let's

418
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.599
let's transition to that first transition meeting
when he talks to the to the team

419
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.079
that's currently there, and you know
that was that's something we're gonna bring up

420
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.519
right now. Well before that,
I mean, how is it gonna be

421
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:46.000
when he hits the give him my
theme music the first time in Colorado?

422
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.280
They go to a band gonna be
able to keep up with it? They

423
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.320
played some theme music for him walking
into that team meeting. He did,

424
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:57.960
but that was but it was a
different song though, wasn't all eyes on

425
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:09.159
me? Yeah? All eyes over
what my hitters? Yeah? You know

426
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.199
that Colorado. I just want to
know, Hey, how quickly do you

427
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.280
throw out the love word? Like
he's I'm saying I love you, I

428
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.039
love you Rick George, He's like, I love you too, Prime,

429
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:30.599
Like yeah, they got to know
the last month, m right, Yeah,

430
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.360
yeah, this has been going on
for a little while. See,

431
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.679
I mean that's how these things go. Well, yes, it's been going

432
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.639
on for a while, because it
was weeks ago when my source told me

433
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:44.639
that what's going to Colorado? And
yay, hey, hey, you know

434
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:50.119
he's noting to have this like Lebron
James vibe. Like I knew it.

435
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:55.119
You know why I can say that
because when I told you guys, especially

436
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.719
Otis, was like, man,
ain't no way Prime going to Colorado?

437
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:05.679
Like he that's what I did.
Put a little extra in there, kind

438
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.159
of like Uh, like Eddie Murphy
coming to America and the barber say,

439
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:14.079
you have never seen doctor Martin Luther, King, Martin Luther, the King.

440
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.000
Yeah, but no with this move
here, a lot of people are

441
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.800
giving Coach Prime flak for this,
you know, for leaving an HBCU university

442
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.760
when he went in there to you
know, he said his goal, his

443
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.400
purpose was to uplift the university and
put some attention on the swack. And

444
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.000
you know, you can't take away
anything that that guy did for that conference,

445
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:43.159
those universities in the last three years. That when did you see swack

446
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.800
games on a on a more current
rotation on ESPN, You know, it

447
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.119
was when Coach Prime came in there. He came, he uplifted those,

448
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.920
he took you know, he took
that university and turned it upside down,

449
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.840
turned it on its head. People
were talking of about it. People are

450
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.360
donating money, you know, to
to college's historical black colleges and universities.

451
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.800
So give that man his due for
that. And now he's taken that passion

452
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:16.400
somewhere else to elevate you know,
black coaches in Power five rank and in

453
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.679
the you know FB conferences. You
know, he's doing those things he's you

454
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.800
know, he's transitioning to another level
to do that. But I will say

455
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.360
if I was a member of that
Colorado team, I'll be calling my mama

456
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:37.719
after that press conference that he did. Your point, he elevated black coaches

457
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.559
and and and staff wise, and
you know the one thing that's really going

458
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.280
to be talked about is, I
know, you're bringing your son over to

459
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.800
be the quarterback, and if you're
the quarterback of Colorado, like that's an

460
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:58.119
immediate life. He's gone, he's
already. He know he is. I

461
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.000
know he is. But I'm saying, like you should like the way you

462
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:07.800
announced, hey, hey, Colorado
fans meets a new quarterback. Like like

463
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.840
the amount of feeling that like that
is just an ultimate, big, big

464
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.599
boss move that we're seeing in his
public I love it. I love it.

465
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.880
You know. The thing that that
that's gonna be the most like,

466
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:27.880
I guess interesting is his his quota
quotableness prime. You know, because when

467
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.440
you listen to that whole if you
listen to this whole transition speech to the

468
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.320
team, you know there there was
a lot in that it was heavy and

469
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.679
it was very forward. You know
I'm coming. I mean I felt like

470
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:45.159
he took a little bit of that
tuck coming for himself, right. And

471
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.599
he's very very articulate. He can
come out with he has new, new

472
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.880
new ways to motivate players. He's
a he's a minister up there. He's

473
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.719
like a great orator, right,
And he said, uh I, he

474
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.599
said, a few positions are already
spoken for. He said, yeah,

475
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.599
I'm bringing about ten or eleven with
me. I bring my own luggage.

476
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:12.159
And it's Louis, now you take
what people have now changed that to say

477
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.519
is like he told all the players
of Colorado to get in the portal and

478
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:21.039
that he got his own players coming
in there, and they all Louis like,

479
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.400
you know, his the way that
his words are gonna be twisted can

480
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.719
either uplift him or demonize him.
And that's what you're gonna see here.

481
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.599
And it's gonna be also interested to
see. Now that he's in a power

482
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.239
five structure, he's gonna have to
deal with something that he hasn't had to

483
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.360
deal with before, coming from the
Little league to high school to the swack.

484
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:45.840
You don't have boarder regions and trustees
and athletic directors that have pressure from

485
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.400
donors. He hasn't had that yet, So it's gonna be an interesting dichotomy

486
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:57.360
to see how that whole drama plays
out. If you guys under stay where

487
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.800
I'm coming from, because we see
this in the Big Ten on a daily

488
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.880
basis, how the political side of
things affect the game itself. And Prime

489
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.639
is coming in as a guy who's
played two sports at his highest level and

490
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.079
had a lot of success and now
having success coaching in the slack. Will

491
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:21.960
he be able to navigate those waters? Yeah? I think he definitely will

492
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.960
be able to navigate navigate those those
our lats because the biggest thing about him

493
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.199
what he's gonna do is and this
is the smartest thing that he's gonna do,

494
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.559
because we all know he was not
a at Jackson. He was not

495
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.440
a coordinator or anything like that.
He's going to surround himself with the best

496
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.159
coaches that he can find, and
Colorado's going to allow him to and give

497
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:47.800
him the resources too, because this
hire is put in Colorado football like before

498
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.239
this higher like how many times other
than if you're in Michigan about hearing Mel

499
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.039
Tucker came from Colorado? Did you
hear about Colorado football? You didn't?

500
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.559
It has been decades since Colorado football
really prominent, and now they're on the

501
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.599
forefront, they're on the ticker,
they're on the cover page of ESPN and

502
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.800
everything like that. So Colorado's gonna
find they're gonna scrape up the resources to

503
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.519
allow him to surround himself with the
best coaches, the best scouts, the

504
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.480
best recruiters that he can find.
So it's gonna put him. All he's

505
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.800
gonna be doing is just managing and
motivating, managing, motivating, getting in

506
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:29.360
press conferences talking, you know,
doing his thing and drawing money to that

507
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:35.079
conference. He's gonna draw attention from
recruits to that school, and you're gonna

508
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.519
see it. And Colorado the ad, the president's the board of regents that

509
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.480
you just mentioned. They're gonna sit
back and start reaping the benefits and the

510
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:50.400
rewards for that. But he has
to win's got a win. Man.

511
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.239
You talk about Cordell Steer, Michael
Westbrook back in those days, the enemy

512
00:41:54.719 --> 00:42:00.199
on enough guys, you guys,
probably indicapl BM is running that rock in

513
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:08.519
the day, was coordinated for the
Kansas City Chiefs. But there's been that

514
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:14.599
long ago since Colorado was truly relevant, and they've been I mean, what

515
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:19.840
were they one and eleven last year? So yeah, who's and you say

516
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.480
he's bringing his own luggage, He
Dan Wills should brings his own luggage.

517
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.199
When you win one game, you
know, in the Pats, you win

518
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:29.599
one game, yeah you you you
you everyone's in a chopping block. Then

519
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.079
that's why that coach is gone,
His assistants are gone. All you everyone's

520
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.000
in the chopping block. You won
one game and you expect to be there.

521
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.519
That's what people don't understand when people
when you sign a scholarship, people

522
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:40.880
think, oh my god, you
got a four year full ride. No

523
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.039
year to year you have to sign
that scholarship. People don't understand that.

524
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.280
People don't know that that's a year
two year thing and it's how you perform,

525
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.280
you know. So that's why the
pressure and that's why I want to

526
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.800
say, you know, athletes should
be a student, athletes should be paid,

527
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.599
yes, because it's all that mounted
pressure to perform and be there for

528
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.239
that next year. So when you
want to win one damn game, something's

529
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.239
gonna bring their own luggage because they're
not going to be left like the coach

530
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.199
that you won one game work.
That coach is out on the employment unemployment

531
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:17.119
line without question. I mean we
talked about transition speeches, what so like

532
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.760
we're gonna get into the transition speeches. One more thought man, look more

533
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.199
thought Like people failed to realize Prime
if he sticks to it, his DNA

534
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.480
is as a coach, but as
a person, which we already know Prime

535
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:37.400
is gonna be coach. Prime is
he's a leader of men, like he

536
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.199
is running a program of excellence.
And you know he's not just talking it,

537
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:47.400
you know he is truly walking it. Especially with Jackson State. You

538
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.400
know, those guys never seen a
structure. I mean I won't, I

539
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.239
won't discredited you know, his predecessor
there at Jackson State. But I'm saying

540
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:01.840
the structure that he brought into the
pro style element of coaching these kids on

541
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.840
and off the field, I think
that speaks volumes of what Colorado may have

542
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.719
obviously been missing. And that's where
he's going to take over. And you

543
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.760
know he's not switching up. And
I'm sure you know Prime talked to Rick

544
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.960
Georgean's like, listen, if I'm
gonna come, I'm not coming to be

545
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.800
anyone's you know, I say puppet, but more so I'm not I'm going

546
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.440
to be me, and I need
you to let me be me and trust

547
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.719
that being me is going to get
us the success. It's going to get

548
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:34.599
us to flip the tide. So
I think that Colorado opened, They've already

549
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.480
exposed themselves that they are wanting change, and in order to get the change

550
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.400
that they want, they got to
go get the best. And Rick George

551
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.320
and his staff and team did the
best that they could to go get the

552
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.679
best. And this is I think
it is a perfect fit the best for

553
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.599
their program. Absolutely, yes,
yes, And I think you hit a

554
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:59.400
good point there. Otis about coach
Prime being him and Jason you said it

555
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.199
earlier too. The Board of Regions, all these things were probably talked about.

556
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.400
The perception, the image, the
way that coach Prime dresses. He's

557
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:13.320
not gonna be dressing like other coaches
in that league. You know, it's

558
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.719
gonna be a little different. You
know, he's gonna be widing around his

559
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.400
golf carts. He's gonna be doing
things a little different. It's gonna be

560
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.880
that Mama, there goes the neighborhood
a little bit. You know, they

561
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:34.719
already talked about those I think,
you know, do you win or do

562
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.519
you you don't want to stay mediocre. You know what, you gotta pick,

563
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.840
pick your battle. Listen flashbacks when
I was a little jig and Deonna

564
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.559
Sanders was on the Dallas Cowboys.
That's when I was living in Flutville,

565
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.519
Texas, born and raised in Austin. We go to training camp where they

566
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:57.199
have training camp at Saint Edwards University
back then, and I remember, like

567
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.360
when you see like a super hero
or you see a role model, like

568
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.400
that's flashy, but like represents the
culture. Like as a young boy,

569
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.960
you see Deon Sanders come out the
locker room and they have to take golf

570
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.400
card. He's always been in that
golf card game. The golf car had

571
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:22.519
full decked out rims, a full
surrounding system, and he was playing music

572
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.840
like just as you see as a
as a coach right now, and like

573
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.000
you knew Deon Sanders was coming,
and like you just kind of stop and

574
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:34.760
be like, man, that's prime
time, bro, Like that's Deon Sanders.

575
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.760
And watching him in action in practice
truly was like, man, this

576
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:45.599
dude is amazing electric, He's superhuman. And that's just a little flashback because

577
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.119
I'm like the same guy you see
as a head coach. He's been his

578
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:53.840
way since day one and has switched
up, which is very respectful. I

579
00:46:53.880 --> 00:47:00.519
respect it, right, But talking
about transition meeting's got no you brought that

580
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.559
up? Yeah, me and Jay
are we all three of us have been

581
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:10.360
a part of a Michigan State coaching
transition, I guess so, which is

582
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:15.039
an unusual thing, you know,
from from a lot of college football players

583
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.599
you talk about like not only Michigan
State, but like around the country.

584
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:24.679
It's a unique time to see being
involved in a coaching transition where you're the

585
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.639
old the player, the coach who's
been ousted, fired or left for another

586
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.480
for greener pastors, so called green
and pastors, and now a new coach

587
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.519
comes in. This is the first
time I think that they've actually taped one

588
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:44.000
of those and put it broadcasted out
for the world to see. Like with

589
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:49.119
social media. You know, this
happens every year to different teams, but

590
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:54.199
this is the first time that I
can recall it ever being where somebody can

591
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.559
listen in on the full meeting,
like from when he walked in that room

592
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.320
until he was ready to walk out
of that roll. That's a good point.

593
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.119
That's a good point because typically that
meeting is behind closed doors, and

594
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.679
that's that's what their team one on
one. It was the full thing.

595
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.480
Let's let's go back a little bit
to they've never showed a coach telling his

596
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.960
players he's leaving, and so it
was a whole thing. Like it was

597
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.360
a this is different, totally different. Like he said, let's let's get

598
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:29.480
it out. Let's talk like that
was one of them. He's like,

599
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.599
I can remember Nick Saban saying that
to the players in Michigan State that he

600
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:42.199
wasn't leaving, and then he left, right right. I remember that when

601
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.840
he came in and gave a speech
and the coach man he gave his Hamburger

602
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.599
stands speech about I mean, he
invoked fear on every player and that in

603
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.320
that room. I wish that stuff
was on tape. He probably wouldn't be.

604
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.679
He wouldn't have made it twenty years
because some activists would have came out

605
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:07.800
and said that he wasn't you know, right, But I'm telling you like

606
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:12.559
that was a unique thing. But
for a guy like Dean to show him

607
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.840
talking to his former team now and
then being right up front with him and

608
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.280
telling them what's gonna happen, I
want you to hear from me. I

609
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.360
don't want to hear from nobody else. Now. Then they show him talking

610
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.800
to the new team guys and he
says, ask the questions. Now,

611
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.199
you've been talking in the locker room
before. You don't leave here and start

612
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.360
talking and running your mouth after that, talk to me right now. That

613
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:37.599
now that was like in your face, bold, let's get it out there

614
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.960
as real as real can get.
Yeah. Football, absolutely, And I'm

615
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:47.039
thinking about and we were talking about
this offline a little bit from transitioning from

616
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.400
when UH coach D you know,
when John oh Smith was fired. Coach

617
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.000
D comes in there, and in
the back of my head, I knew

618
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.320
I was still gonna be at Michigan
State. Was there a question of Okay,

619
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.079
well I still be tailback, you
know, or is he gonna move

620
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.000
me to fullback? Because I knew
he liked to, you know, run

621
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.400
a twenty one set or everything like
that and being a bigger back. They're

622
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.559
like, okay, let's put him
a fullback. So I knew I was

623
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.199
still gonna be at Michigan State.
So that wasn't that fear in the back

624
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:17.440
of my head. But this when
they were showing Coach Prime talking to this

625
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:23.599
Colorado team that went one and eleven, there were a lot of guys who

626
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:29.239
was like, am I gonna be
here? Do I fit this persona?

627
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.719
Do I fit this role here?
So that was that question. That's that

628
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:37.480
difference there, and I, as
a player, I appreciate the transparency that

629
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.039
coach Prime brings along. He said, yes, I'm bringing luggage with me.

630
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.320
My son he's gonna be the starting
quarterback hunter, the dB. He's

631
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:50.719
gonna be coming here and being the
dB here. My son Shador he's gonna

632
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.039
be the dB. My other son's
gonna be filming everything. You know.

633
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:59.800
He's put everything out there, so
there's nobody saying, oh, I didn't

634
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.920
know, I was misled. That's
why I'm going to hit the transfer portal.

635
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.119
This is your opportunity to do so
now. And he put that out

636
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.760
there on the table for everyone,
and I can appreciate that. But it

637
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:15.079
was a total different transition from when
coach Dantonio came in and that speech that

638
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.920
he gave to us players and otis
you can go more into details about this

639
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:24.320
speech there because you do a better
coaching the impression than me because you probably,

640
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.000
yeah, talk about that guy.
How was that transition speech, you

641
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.639
know, because I know you know
D'Antonio was on the staff when Saban came

642
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.920
in, but you knowing the kind
of guy he is, like was he

643
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:42.800
was it a fiery speech that he
put invoked fear into you guys or did

644
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.880
you feel like real mormoncusst I wasn't
because I was looking at that big o'hio

645
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:51.880
State championship ring, you and me
both, but the ring, the ring.

646
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.360
So you know, we all we
all like sophomore my sophomore year,

647
00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:00.840
Jay's junior year, like I was. I was in surgery, like I

648
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.639
had hands like rich surgery right at
the end of the season. So like

649
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.679
once we once we knew, like
John Smith gave his speech to us,

650
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:13.880
but that's something that we should talk
about prior to that Penn State game,

651
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:19.480
like we were in the same situation, like I talked about our episode to

652
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.039
go. If we win this game
against Penn State, you get to go

653
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.719
bowl game. So they notified the
staff. Groan Mason a ad at the

654
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.440
time, notify the staff right before
like that week of practice, and so

655
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.880
I think it was Thursday where he
brought the team together and was like,

656
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:38.480
hey, fellas we are we are
we've been notified when you're not fired,

657
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.880
and uh, you know, we're
gonna do all that we can to win

658
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.679
this game. And you know,
if we do, we're gonna spend all

659
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.199
their damn money. So when you
think about that, we're like, oh,

660
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.760
yeah, we're gonna play for our
coach recruited us. Oh we love

661
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.320
John Nelle. We're playing. We
lose, obviously, we know we're not

662
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.559
gonna have a coach. You kind
of start thinking, all right, what

663
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.199
is next for me? Because we
didn't have the luxury to go transferred right

664
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:09.559
out and play. There was even
if the coach got fired, like you

665
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:15.199
still have to sit out, And
so I think we all were thinking who

666
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.360
will be the next person. Some
of our counterparts and our teammates were part

667
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:25.199
of the search or helping the search. Yeah, like what do we want

668
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:29.239
in the quality of a coach?
As they go out and search for it,

669
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.039
you know, we start hearing all
the rumors, you know, those

670
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:36.039
four guys that you know listed at
the top four, And at this moment,

671
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.960
I didn't know of coach d I
mean I do know we were we

672
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:45.800
were watching you know, Cincinnati the
successful and you know we didn't know truly

673
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:51.119
what the other deal was. But
from a standpoint of when he gets the

674
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.360
job that we're in that room,
the old Smithson Auditorium, and to Jay's

675
00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:00.440
point, he's hitting the he's hitting
the big the national championship from Ohio State

676
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:06.679
on his hand, and he's hitting
that podium and strategically, I'm not sure

677
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.880
if he was aware, but I
think he was. When he was trying

678
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:14.440
to make this point that we are
going to win championships and you guys are

679
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:19.079
gonna be the foundation. It was
a different tone because he was stating right

680
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.199
out the gate, you guys are
my guys. Like so he he kind

681
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.760
of cleared the room in the air, but he did say is that everybody's

682
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:34.199
job is up for evaluation. Like
the weeds. You say, what again,

683
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.440
pull the weeds? Yeah, he
said, we're gonna pull the weeds,

684
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.199
man. And then he that's when
he started talking about we're all gonna

685
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:43.880
get on one of one one train. We're gonna go together. That's the

686
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:45.880
only way we're gonna do it.
But we're gonna pull the weeds. Basically,

687
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.639
the weeds will pull themselves. And
so when he starts switching this up,

688
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.880
you know, we truly, like
I mean, people were like,

689
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.480
if you in the locker room,
people were nervous, man, Like,

690
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.519
if you're messing up with the other
code, you know the stuff that's off

691
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.800
the feel like, that's that can
easily get you like pulled out. Like

692
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.159
you basically left the meetings, like, man, am I one of those

693
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:14.320
weeds? Like I started self reflecting
and started looking internally, like, man,

694
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.760
what did I do to even be
valued or warranted that I can at

695
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.000
least get, you know, if
I could least go to this next team,

696
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.639
or do I need to go and
look at the transfer. I don't

697
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.800
even know what the transperporter looks like
because I never really back then, I

698
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.320
didn't know what it looked like because
I never really got to that point where

699
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.440
I was gonna transfer. To Jay's
point, I knew I'm staying here because

700
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.199
I selected this university for the university's
perspective and I was having success, so

701
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:43.519
like, I mean, I'm gonna
fight for my job basically. But yeah,

702
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.199
it was a it was a different
tone. I'm gonna tell you,

703
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.760
guys what I'm gonna tell you guys. One thing you guys were afwarded was

704
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:53.760
probably the softest transition in the history
of college football, because I look at

705
00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:00.239
that's that right there. Like when
you talk to one Mark D'Antonio, he

706
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.559
takes pride in the fact that they
didn't lose many guys. He talks about

707
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.039
that all the time. He'll say, well, you know one thing that's

708
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.039
you know, we we we got
we we got here. We we ain't

709
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:16.440
lose anybody because we had some dogs. Yo. No, no, it's

710
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.239
not about dogs. It's not you
guys losing a lot of games, by

711
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.559
the way, a lot of games. I mean, yes, so that

712
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:31.840
some bad people scheme scheme, you
guys lost more games than perlists guys lost,

713
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.840
just so you know, scheme,
But it was it was it was

714
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:42.000
we means you got, you got. Look, and you had some arrogant

715
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.360
players that were mailing it in when
they shouldn't have a lot of times to

716
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:52.639
guys that were maybe uh maybe not
treating themselves the right way on the during

717
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.519
the weeks. Uh that will be
preparing for games. So those things that

718
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.920
you have to evaluate that. But
he had his culture for a lot was

719
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:07.039
much more family and together oriented and
like, hey, we gotta all go

720
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:12.519
in the same direction versus the typical
coaching change. This is what Dean is

721
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.440
coming in more atypical than not.
You know, he's showing you he's being

722
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:21.079
transparent, but he is coming in
with the Hey, we're gonna run some

723
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:22.960
of you off. Because there was
a question that came up, like have

724
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:29.400
you have you thought about you know, what what what what? What kind

725
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.519
of are you? What positions you're
looking to change? Or are you what

726
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.519
kind of kick? Who's your strength
and conditioning guy? And he says,

727
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:38.559
I haven't thought about that. He
said, I'll get back to you on

728
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.840
that. He said, but you
know, some of you guys are gonna

729
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.000
run off, and then the other
guys we're gonna try to make quit m

730
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.079
He said that, and he said
and then he said, if you're on

731
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.079
this list of you ain't worth the
damn you out of here anyway. So

732
00:57:53.320 --> 00:58:00.400
like that's way different than what Mark
D'Antonio came into Michigan State saying, you

733
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.519
didn't he didn't just flat out get
rid of people. Know, there's some

734
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.960
weeds that you talked about, and
that was that that makes you win,

735
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:12.400
just that part, right. Imagine
if he talks about lift some list that

736
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:22.400
you don't on the list. The
thing that I think you know, coach

737
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.920
d' antonio's approach, and I can
respect that is because he came in respecting

738
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:30.679
us as players, and that's how
you know, we you know, earned

739
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:35.320
his respect. So I think there's
that little give and take, you know.

740
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.119
And to say that because you know, I think Coach Prime came in

741
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:43.199
because he wants people to leave.
Coach he didn't want people to leave,

742
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:46.239
you know, if they were supposed
to be there. So that's why I

743
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.920
think those two approaches are a little
different. Why do you think that is?

744
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:57.119
Do you think it's it's because of
or the day, the era that

745
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.639
we're in, the era that we're
in. It's when now, when coach

746
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.679
d came in, he had three
four years. Yeah, yeah, you

747
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:10.159
had you had that three four years
to rebuild. Right now you got two

748
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:15.400
years tops with trans report on everything, you got two years tops. And

749
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:21.360
in the way that Coach Prime's coming
in coming in hot like that with the

750
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.239
glets, the glamour, the walk
in songs, the walk out songs,

751
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:31.519
everything that leash because they're gonna he's
gonna be scrutinized based on everything. Yeah

752
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:36.639
you got changed, Yeah you got
swag. Yeah you're dancing. Win a

753
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:45.840
damn game. They're gonna say game
it when he starts to talk and then

754
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:55.800
look this starts to close and it's
just James World. God. Look man,

755
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.519
look we gotta we got a transition
out and we can talk Ben.

756
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:00.519
We can be on he show us
a couple hours at a time. But

757
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.440
like, let's talk about the dogs
in the league. Man. Highlights from

758
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.159
this weekend. Yeah, Scott,
listen you you kind of like when it

759
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.320
you know when this happened. First
of all, it's against Aaron Rodgers,

760
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.440
so that's like bucket list, right, anybody want to get that. But

761
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:19.800
you know when he when he got
it and then he starts running, it

762
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.599
was like, oh, this is
a first career in a session. I'm

763
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:27.719
like, yo, that Scott's out
here doing it. They just like you

764
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.840
get a good pick. And he's
playing for the Eagles, man, and

765
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.800
the Eagles have a great a great
season as far. So like to be

766
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.199
on that team and then that secondary
and then it's a Spartan dog like that.

767
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:45.039
I was like one coach Bartnett is
worth, he's that guy. Because

768
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.239
Barnett's putting guys in the league.
It was just good to see, you

769
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.039
know, another secondary guy from forming
former dB to the next he's showing up,

770
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.760
showing up his spartnation. What you
do with that? What you do

771
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.440
with that ball? After he ran
and celebrate, you run straight to the

772
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.760
equipment guy and say, hey,
hey, hey, save this from it

773
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.360
and put tape around it. Just
skuy Scott's first NFL T I n T

774
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.079
boom. Next thing you know,
it's sitting in your locker and that's going

775
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:14.360
on your mantle right there. That's
it. Then you got it down.

776
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.119
Get that ball right over. Hey, I got I got one from five.

777
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:27.760
No, I was playing offense,
I know, no, no,

778
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:37.199
I it warm ups, caught it
in warm up. It's gonna it's gonna

779
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:43.840
be worse something some day. I'm
out down in Pittsburgh. So Atlanta Connor

780
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:49.039
and Cam Cam Hayward, you know, they're the legendary sons of Ironhead.

781
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:53.440
Hayward Ironhead and had them both in
the state of Georgia. They're from Atlanta,

782
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:58.159
then locals. They went back there, visited his grave, go to

783
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:04.719
play the falcon and Conner scores his
first career touchdown. Man, Let's let's

784
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.599
talk about that route though, because
he had the boys beat five yards seven

785
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:12.760
yards ooh, got him on the
ok, though little out and upslt.

786
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.920
He looked like he slimmed down a
little bit too. And you know with

787
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:21.559
this play here and you you you
hit on everything on this astray, you

788
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.360
know them being from Atlanta one visits
great, don't you don't you put it

789
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:29.559
past coach Mike Tomlin. He knew
how special it was for the Hayward family,

790
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.559
and and Iron had Hayward played for
the Falcons. So I think all

791
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.239
through the week now they they had
this like, hey, let's get him

792
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.800
a touch in there, like he
has an opportunity to score and and honor

793
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.000
his family, you know. So
I think, you know, that was

794
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.280
very cool by the you know,
by the organization, and you could see

795
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:50.440
by the way his teammates are running
to him to celebrate, really cool.

796
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:52.920
And it's how great is it to
be on the same team as your big

797
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.199
brother? You know, that's you
can't beat that. I mean, it's

798
01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.719
incredible. I mean that that's it's
not not by accident that the Steelers have

799
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.559
I think four sets of brothers on
that team. Mike Toblin does a phenomenal

800
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:09.559
job with that man. Look,
we also think about we don't talk about

801
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:13.960
Hayward as much as like one of
the missing pieces. Like we give Kate

802
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.719
nine everything, but dude, Hayward
stepped up big for us last season,

803
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.480
that eleven two season, and you
think about the missing hole that we had

804
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:25.039
where you know, we got some
tight ends that we thought we'll replace and

805
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:29.639
you know, put some more production
on there. But this guy was like

806
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:34.000
multi dimensional for us on the offensive
side and that just transitioned into the league.

807
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.800
And it's kudos to the Spartan Doug
and Hayward doing this thing. Make

808
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.840
getting that first touchdown Now, I
wish we saw that Benny Fowler dance with

809
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.360
him, like what would he would
have did something different than the gritty is

810
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:46.800
up, But that's not him,
man, He's a guy that just works,

811
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.159
gets the touch got the touchdown good. Speaking of gritty, some of

812
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:58.639
the worst gritty out there is from
one Kirk Cousins and he's bawling in Minnesota.

813
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:02.719
Absolutely a man. Fine, not
say finally because it's been eleven years,

814
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:09.719
but he's putting together like you could
tell like he is in control.

815
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.719
Like this guy is. He got
he got weapons too. I mean you

816
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.679
and you got justin Jefferson. I
mean those are two games won. Two

817
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:26.159
punches here Kirk, my first cousin, Baby Holland's Finest, Baby Holland's Finest.

818
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.119
I just want him to let us
on his golf course he just bought.

819
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.960
We gotta get Kirk on the show. We will, we will do

820
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.800
that. Nothing speaking of like,
so that's the dogs in the news.

821
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:43.880
It ain't transferred portal news so far. Only two dogs so far that have

822
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.480
been in the portal that are as
of now, Like when you're talking about

823
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.800
the portal opening up just yesterday on
Monday, that was the Shawn Mallory and

824
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:56.480
Jalen Hunt, two defensive linemen who
were productive in the end of the season.

825
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:00.920
Didn't really see this one coming,
guys. I'm sorry, mam.

826
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:05.480
I never meant to hurt you.
I think that's the wrong song. Cleaning

827
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:13.440
out my closet, cleaning out the
closet, cleaning out all of Coach D's

828
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:18.559
left over and making it making it
Coach Tucker's program. Now, is you

829
01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:24.039
know that? I think the homage, the respect was there, and now

830
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:29.639
it's going to be fully Coach Tucker's
guys that are in there now mm hmm,

831
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:34.199
it's time, Bun. I don't
know, man, It's just like

832
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.599
we talked about maybe they've been on
the seat this entire time, you know,

833
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:45.320
like you had opportunities to show you
what you got and you haven't seen

834
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.559
it till late when it bloom.
But I mean, it is what it

835
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:51.239
is. Man. You saw,
you know, Michael Fletcher, you know,

836
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:57.280
going in one of my karmenades Worth
guys, and you know then you

837
01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:02.360
got obviously the first was our pace
kicker. So honestly, I'm surprised we

838
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.159
haven't had mortgage yet. But it's
one of those things that we're gonna go.

839
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:12.039
The D on its Carter. He's
Carter, he entered it. Wow,

840
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:18.000
Well he's the whole D the whole
D line is it's going. But

841
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:23.079
hey, so does that mean we
got some of those in the house coming

842
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:30.960
up? Is some dose in the
house. I mean that means there's four

843
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.000
additional spots open on the roster if
you think about it, you know,

844
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:41.679
for the recruiting side and the portal
side at the portal, like I mean,

845
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:57.119
for real, in the portal.
It's ridiculous. Another Texas, two

846
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.639
more texts, A and M player. He don't leave. He doing lobby

847
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:06.639
right now, man, that collective
and they want their money back. Yeah,

848
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:11.519
I think they can't. They can't
sustain it. Thirty million dollars or

849
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:16.920
whatever it was sav saving remember saving
gunning for him. Remember in the beginning

850
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:25.679
of the season they bought their whole
class. Yeah, well they bankrupted it.

851
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:28.400
Well, guys, hey, man, Like, so if this is

852
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:30.840
something that's gonna be interesting, We're
gonna continue to track what's going on with

853
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:35.679
the portal. It is heavy,
heavy recruiting season. The coaches are on

854
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:40.679
the road right now. It is
open contact season, so there's gonna be

855
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:45.039
a lot of guys being flipped left
and right. We're gonna see more people

856
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:50.199
entering the portal and uh, let
the fireworks begin, as we shall say.

857
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:54.440
And you know, like, guys, you know, it's been a

858
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:58.159
jam packed weekend. We've got a
lot going on going forward. You know,

859
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.800
Michigan State basketball, we didn't get
a chance to get to that yet.

860
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.440
Misisters State does lose a tough loss
a couple of days ago to Northwestern

861
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:10.519
in the Breslen Center. Todd Minslo's
got to figure some stuff out there.

862
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:14.639
We'll get into some detail with that. Bring some basketball guys on the show

863
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.199
to talk a little bit about that. But final thoughts for this show before

864
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:24.560
we transitioned into a couple of days
where we're going to talk more about these

865
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:28.079
things and more. First of all, that jumper is broken and Jay just

866
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:33.000
put up there. Secondly, I
think I get this theme. Like there's

867
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:39.720
a song back in the Southern Baptist
Church and it was an old school like

868
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:45.680
get your house in order, right, And I think that this is the

869
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:51.520
moment where programs are getting their houses
in order, and each individual player has

870
01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:57.439
to question and self reflect of is
my own house in order? And if

871
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.920
it's not. We got everyone hitting
the transferportal and we're gonna see a lot

872
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:05.840
of different stuffle pieces, moving pieces, and and I'm looking forward to to

873
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:10.920
breaking that down and making sure that
you know, here at Michigan State,

874
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.439
we're putting a roster together that's gonna
be something that we're gonna be proud of

875
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.039
and get on that field. So
get your house in order is the theme

876
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:23.359
here the whole month of December.
I know we're gonna be talking hoops and

877
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:29.920
stuff, but I can't wait to
talk some hockey. Yeah, a little

878
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:33.560
hockey too. Yeah. The hockey
teams. Hockey team's on fire right now.

879
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.039
They got a big one coming up
at the end of the week.

880
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:41.760
You know, I'm ving back to
back against Minnesota, so it's kind of

881
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:45.199
let's evaluate and let's get ready for
that team down Rollo at the end of

882
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:50.520
this week Friday, So the month
is gonna be packed, baby, great

883
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:54.880
a lot of action, guys,
look forward to it. Thanks guys for

884
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.760
the show. You know, it's
all we gotta go. But we will

885
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.479
be back on Thursday and the at
o'clock. Be sure to follow us,

886
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.960
subscribe, do all those great things. Until then, have a great night,

887
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.079
God bless and go greet Go Wiet