WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:29.039 Second hour of the program. Welcome back. Interesting take from Jim Bowden in 2 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:35.719 the Athletic Whether or not the Tigers buy or sell? Let's talk about it 3 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:42.799 here on x's Umbros right now. You can do so by calling and joining 4 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.960 the conversation on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty 5 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:51.039 three. You can text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. What 6 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:58.640 do you think? Buy or sell? What would you do? Now, 7 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:04.120 that's a tough thing to ask because you and I oftentimes think too emotionally. 8 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.239 We do. I hope people could admit that. I think one of the 9 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:19.280 hardest things to do for any general manager right now or at any time, 10 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.159 is to take the emotion out of it. This is what you have to 11 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:30.079 do. Take the emotion out of it and do what you think is best 12 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.280 for your team. Now, we were just we just finished before the top 13 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.959 of the hour. We were talking about the grades that ESPN has given each 14 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:45.719 team, and how there are six teams that were given d's and the Tigers 15 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.079 will want them. And as I mentioned, last time, the Tigers ranked 16 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:52.799 in the top half of the AL and run scored was twenty sixteen. That's 17 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:57.680 how horrendous. The offense have been another week. Detroit offense ninth in the 18 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.000 AL and run score twelveth and adding average twelfth in home runs that's key fourteenth 19 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:07.760 and on base percentage that's just as important. For every step forward Riley Green, 20 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.479 they write, there's a step backward Spencer Torkelsen, or a step off 21 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:15.240 a cliff Javier Bias. They write, The sad part is that the Tigers 22 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.479 made one of the best signings in the offseason, Jack Flaherty, while Terrek 23 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.560 school is a sy On candidate, and Reee Olsen gives them an outstanding trio 24 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:29.400 of starters. I would remind you this, not that I wanted him back, 25 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.039 not that he deserves a pass, not that he deserves to be a 26 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.520 general manager anywhere else. But ala Vila did trade for ree Oulsen. You 27 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:45.240 know what he gave up, right, He gave up Daniel Norris and he 28 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:49.960 got ree Olsen in that trade. Milwaukee's really good. You think they'd love 29 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:57.120 an arm like ree Olsen, You damn right they would anyway. ESPN plus 30 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.639 rights, there just isn't enough to go around those three, and the Tigers 31 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:07.879 appear on their way to an eighth straight losing season. That's the D plus. 32 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:13.599 Wow, I'm just I eight straight, I just hearing it out loud. 33 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.639 Yeah. That puts it in perspective, doesn't it. Yeah, and 34 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:21.319 it's unacceptable. It doesn't mean they've had the worst season. You and I 35 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.879 may think it's among the worst, But the SBM plus ranks the Blue Jays 36 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.680 with an F, the Angels with an F, Miami with an F. 37 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:34.199 Miami made the playoffs last year, and the White Sox with an F minus. 38 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.879 Yeah, ironically, the Socks are in your own division and they're worse. 39 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.280 And look, anytime you've got two All Stars and you've got a cy 40 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.759 young candidate, there's no way you're having the worst season. But shepid goes 41 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:51.840 back to our conversation about expectations and what the reality is for this team. 42 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:57.080 Yeah, and that's where you have to measure it. How what do you 43 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.319 What was your expectation? Everybody he knows mine. I was way wrong. 44 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:09.120 Expectation and prediction are maybe a little different, but that's semantics. I was 45 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.240 way wrong on this team. I can admit it. There's nothing wrong with 46 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:17.360 that. It happens. It's been a huge disappointment. Jim Bowden of the 47 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.879 Athletic is a former general manager for the Cincinnati Reads. If you don't believe 48 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:25.439 him, just ask him. If you don't think he knows what he's talking 49 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.160 about, just ask him. But he writes some intriguing stuff, and he 50 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.439 stands by his convictions. He's got strong opinions, and he's got really good 51 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:42.680 contacts. I respect it. Here's what he writes about the buyers and the 52 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.600 sellers. As you get closer to the trade deadline, it's at the end 53 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:50.279 of the month. Where do all thirty teams stand on the trade deadline? 54 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.600 Especially when it's heading in to the All Star break. There are twenty days 55 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:01.680 until the trade deadline. He literally just pulled to this just moments ago. 56 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:08.360 So there are twenty days until the trade deadline. Where do teams stand? 57 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:15.120 What do they need? Now? I don't know about you, but obviously 58 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.279 I immediately gravitate. I'll scroll down every team to get to my team. 59 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:27.199 But I can't help but look at the really good teams and see what they 60 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.879 may be saying about them. Like I think Philadelphia is a pretty complete team, 61 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.319 don't you. I mean they're the first team to sixty wins. They 62 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.439 beat the Dodgers yesterday, They're the first team in the league to sixty wins. 63 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.319 Could they sustain a major injury? They are still getting to sixty wins 64 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.879 without jt rili Muto, who might be the best catcher in baseball. Yeah, 65 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.120 they're deep, They're well rounded. To your point, Yeah, I 66 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.360 mean I like Will Smith a lot. I think he would probably be my 67 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:58.240 selection. Salvador Perez is unbelievable, but jt Roulamuto is in the conversation among 68 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.920 the top three catchers. They've stained it. They lost Trey Turner for a 69 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.639 while, they lost Nick Costianos for a while, they lost Kyle Schwarber for 70 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:10.720 a while, and yet they're able to sustain it. Seven all stars on 71 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.480 the roster, franchise record, franchise record, and a guy hitting in the 72 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.800 home run derby Alec Baum, who last night after the game said, when 73 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.439 they talked about being the first team to sixty wins, what did he say? 74 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.399 He said the right thing, He goes, We've got our minds and 75 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:29.160 our goals set on bigger things than that. Beautiful. So I look at 76 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.120 that and I'm like, Okay, what could they Their link to Luis Robert 77 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:40.160 Jazz, Chisholm, Cody Bellinger, those are big names, man. I 78 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.920 mean, Jazz Chisholm is a little bit of a head case from what I 79 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.800 read. Cody Bellinger brings you big pie pop with a left handed stick off 80 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.199 the bench, and Luise Robert is an everyday guy. All three of those 81 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:54.839 guys are every day guys. They're talking about trading for those guys. They're 82 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.199 not talking about trading for prospects. I don't want to go Alan iverson, 83 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:03.160 but we're talking about prospects. So I look at certain teams and see what 84 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:08.519 they're going to do. The Braves are an intriguing team just because Ronald Acunya 85 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:12.839 Junior suffered a season ending knee injury. What would they try and get in 86 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.120 on. Maybe Jazz Chis and maybe a Taylor Ward, maybe a Randy or 87 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:21.519 Rose Arena. Again, big names. So I look down for the Tigers 88 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.560 and I think, what are they going to do? At least according to 89 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.560 Jim Bolden, what is he hearing? Is he hearing the same things that 90 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:33.759 I'm hearing? Well, here's what he writes about the Tigers, and it's 91 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.879 kind of a middle of the road approach. He writes by or Sell question 92 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.360 mark, that's the question of the Tiger's front office keeps asking themselves as they 93 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.959 sit five games below, five hundred seven games out of the wild card position 94 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.279 and four teams they need to hurdle to get there. Obviously they're not winning 95 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.240 the division. They're fourteen games back of Cleveland right now. This team has 96 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.360 not proven that it can go on some type of run where they're going to 97 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:05.480 win thirteen of their next sixteen games. That's not in his article. That's 98 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.319 me sorry for ad living. He continues, the answer should be more clear 99 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:16.199 closer to the deadline. Well again, Jim, they're twenty game days away 100 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.759 from the deadline. Twenty days, not twenty games because you get the All 101 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:26.319 Star break in there. Have you made up your mind by now? Because 102 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:31.480 I have. I'd love to see them prove me wrong. I've made up 103 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.799 my mind. He apparently has not, so he says, the closer you 104 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:41.799 get to the deadline, it should give you the result in them selling with 105 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.879 potential trades involving starting pitcher Jack Flaherty. If his back issue doesn't worsen, 106 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:52.600 We'll see how he does today. Cross your fingers that he gives them seven 107 00:08:52.639 --> 00:09:00.559 strong, he writes Mark Canna, He says, who is a solid corner 108 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.039 bat coming off the bench. You see how important that is right there? 109 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:11.360 A solid bench player, A guy coming off the bench. Folks, you 110 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.799 know what that tells you what? He is not a starting player on a 111 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.399 good team. He's not a starting player. He's not playing eighty two games 112 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.919 for a really good team. He's not playing eighty two games. It's been 113 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:31.320 two twenty three. Would you consider that a solid bench player? I would 114 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.320 not. But whatever. There are other names that he brings up. We'll 115 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.320 get to when we come back. It's ten after the hour. Don't forget. 116 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.960 Jim companegri is coming our way at eight thirty five. 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The Athletics and Jim Bowden, 147 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.600 as we mentioned just prior to the break, coming out with an update 148 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.279 on where all thirty teams in Major League Baseball stand at the trade deadline. 149 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.960 He mentions Jack Flaherty if his back holds up. He mentions Mark Canna, 150 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.600 who is a what he calls a solid cornerbat coming off the bench. I 151 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:50.120 would disagree, Geo Orshella strong defensive third baseman, So in other words, 152 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.279 he comes in for defensive purposes late on a really good team, and he 153 00:12:54.320 --> 00:13:01.039 writes maybe even closer Jason Foley for the right price. That price for me 154 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:07.440 would have to be steep. I don't. I've said this before. I'll 155 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:13.720 continue to say it. You want prospects, okay, I need major league 156 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:20.080 players, major league ready players. If somebody's getting blocked, right, somebody 157 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:26.720 in the Baltimore system, for example, is blocked because there's somebody ahead of 158 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.799 him who is young and really good. Remember Gunner Henderson was blocked by Mateo 159 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.799 for a little bit, and now they've moved Mateo and Henderson's their shortstopping rightfully. 160 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.320 So well, he was blocked for a short period of time, and 161 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.600 then Jorge Mateo, who signed a long term deal, was the guy blocking 162 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.799 him and then they moved him. So maybe somebody in Baltimore, Dristad for 163 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:54.759 example, is blocked by another quality player and he could easily be a starter 164 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:01.960 for a less than team. There you go, that's a possibility, right, 165 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.759 If that's in the cards for Baltimore, it has to be more than 166 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:11.759 that for Derek Schouble. But if it's Jason Foley. Yeah, I'm strongly 167 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.200 considering it. Why because when you make the trade and a guy like Jason 168 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:22.120 Foley packs his bags, says goodbye to all his buddies, says thanks a 169 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.799 lot, does his interview with the Detroit media, heads to the other city. 170 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:31.759 When the player coming back comes into the Detroit Tigers clubhouse, that's really 171 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:37.240 important. I don't want him packing a bag and saying, what number do 172 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.080 you want to play for Toledo, here's your locker stall in eerie. I 173 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:50.480 want him walking over into the Tigers dugout into the Tigers clubhouse, putting on 174 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:56.200 his dress, whites on the old English d and put in the lineup. 175 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.000 When you have a talent like Jason Foley, you have a talent like Terrek 176 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.080 Scooble, you have a talent like Jack Flaherty, you should be able to 177 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.559 get if Flarerty's healthy, you should be able to get more than prospects, 178 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.159 guys who will step into your lineup and they will start for you the rest 179 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:24.840 of the season. That is amongst the goals you should have when making these 180 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:33.000 deals, my opinion, he writes, Some opposing executives have told me they 181 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.200 think the Tigers could that's the keyword. Move Trek Scouble, who is under 182 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:43.080 team control through twenty twenty six. If they get a massive return, that's 183 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.720 important too, a massive return. And my hope is I would like that 184 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.840 a little bit more clarified. If I interviewed Jim Bowden, I would say, 185 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.720 can you tell me exactly what massive is? It's got to be more 186 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.480 than just prospects. Don't give me the number three, the number six and 187 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.960 the number nine prospect and somebody's system. Nope, I want more than that. 188 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:08.480 He writes. Both the Orioles and Dodgers would be capable of putting together 189 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:14.039 that type of offer. I think Schooble stays, but if he's traded, 190 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:19.399 he'll be the best player moved at the deadline. There you go, that's 191 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:25.360 important. That's good stuff. But understand this too. I mean the Orioles 192 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:30.240 could definitely use it, all right. Injuries to Kyle Bradish and John Means 193 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:37.960 have forced them. They have plenty of prospects they need starting pitching, But 194 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:42.399 according to Boden, he says they don't intend to trade any of their top 195 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:48.120 prospects. They didn't do so to acquire Corbin Burns earlier this year. And 196 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:49.840 they don't see a reason. Now, well, there's a difference between Corbyn 197 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:56.759 Burns and Trek Skoubl From a contractual standpoint and from a high upside standpoint. 198 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.640 Baltimore is not gonna waiver. They've built the best farm system in baseball. 199 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:11.960 They're not going to let it all go for one season. Do you have 200 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.519 to? I don't know. But if I'm the Tigers, I'm not trading 201 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:22.000 any of my guys. I've got the upper hand here unless I get what 202 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.880 they are worth. I am not going to settle like what has happened in 203 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.680 the past. Let me get to some techs at Sports Radio twenty one thousand, 204 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.680 Trent, go right ahead. Like Sheep said, we always welcome your 205 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.720 thoughts. You can text sports Radio all lowercase, no caps, no spaces 206 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.039 to twenty one thousand. That'll get your role in this Textter says, good 207 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.480 morning, chef. Just wanted to get your thoughts on Justin Henry molloy. 208 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.880 Yeah. I like him a lot. I worry about where his home is 209 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.559 because he does not look like a very gifted defensive outfielder. But I do 210 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:02.039 like his bad I love his approach, I love his discipline in the zone 211 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:03.880 so in first of all, he's a great dude. He is. He's 212 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:11.799 a great kid. Parents did a wonderful job, single child, came from 213 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:18.920 really good program, won a national championship, came over in the trade from 214 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:23.680 Atlanta, and he's gone about his business the right way, kept his mouth 215 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.400 shut, put his head down and worked down to the minor leagues. Got 216 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:33.000 his opportunity and he's not letting it go. I like him. I like 217 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.200 him a lot. Here's what I worry about him, that he's a designated 218 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:42.079 hitter. I would like to find some guys who we feel can own a 219 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:47.599 position. You know, when I asked a question along those lineship, sure, 220 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:51.319 because I agree with you one hundred percent. By the way, Colt 221 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.079 Keith, Carry Carpenter, justin Henry Malloy. There's a few guys in this 222 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:56.839 young cors if you want to call it that, that don't really have a 223 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.680 home defensively. And I wonder if that's thing we should be concerned about now, 224 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.519 or if it's something that as people who followed Tigers and want to see 225 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:08.079 the Tigers hit more, we should just cross that bridge when we come to 226 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.960 it, if you will, where it's like, absolutely we should hit the 227 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.000 ball and then worry about the defense. Yeah, I think you actually, 228 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:19.279 I think you should be worried about it. I do. Look, get 229 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.720 I get Justin Henry molloy and what he's batting. He's bad, what like 230 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.839 just under two hundred, but I like him a lot. I think he's 231 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.000 going to hit. I said the same thing about Cole Keith. I'm not 232 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.279 going to judge you guys too quickly on that stuff, not when they haven't 233 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:40.200 played much. Dude doesn't play thirty games in his major league career, so 234 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:45.200 give him a little breathing room. You need some pop. He's got it 235 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.200 all right, He's got five bombs, get a home run every six games. 236 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.480 Based on that, But I think we should be worried about it. 237 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.440 The reason you should be worried about it because, as we mentioned earlier in 238 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:03.119 the show, if you believe, the defense wins championships. That's what we 239 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:07.160 hear all the time, right in baseball, Defense and pitching wins championship. 240 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.000 Is that a fair phrase that you hear quite a bit? Yeah? Okay, 241 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:18.799 okay, Then when you have that many players Keith, Justin, Henry 242 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.839 malloy, carry Carbon who's worked really hard on his defense, can I take 243 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:29.240 it a step further Jase Young down in the miners. If they're looking for 244 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:33.480 homes now, the organization will tell you they have homes, but they're not 245 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:40.519 elite there, They're not even above average with their defense. Then something's got 246 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:45.200 to improve. Something's got to be different in your development or you're drafting or 247 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:52.119 you're trading. You can't have all these dhs and you can't have everybody play 248 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:59.079 second base man. This doesn't work. But I do like him, Like 249 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.759 I said, I like his approach, I like his mindset, I like 250 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:07.000 his character. I worry about the DH aspect. I worry that he would 251 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.039 be a right handed DH and Carpenter would be a left handed DH. I 252 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.279 worry that Jayce Young can't be a long term third baseman or Cole Keith can't 253 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.960 be a long term second basement. Defensively, I'm not saying that they've got 254 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.119 a sparkle with gold glove. I don't expect Cole Keith to be Frank White 255 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:27.519 or low Whitaker, but I expect him to be good enough where you don't 256 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.000 hold your breath every time the ball has hit his way, or that he's 257 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.200 got to turn two. It's a good text. We've got more on the 258 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.759 other side. Don't forget. Jim Camperoni from Spartan mag will join us at 259 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:44.880 eight thirty five as we talk Michigan State football and the first year of Jonathan 260 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.880 Smith at the Helm Back with Mart. This is Friday and Saturday only at 261 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.359 Meyer. 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I think today the 293 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:53.599 pole question because of well what's There's just not a lot out there outside of 294 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:57.680 baseball. So we asked which of these events are you most interested in? 295 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:04.559 Euro Soccer Chamampionships and that features England against Spain. Both teams won two to 296 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:10.920 one in semi final action and we'll play for a championship on Sunday in Berlin. 297 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.000 England is there for a second straight year. Spain goes for their fourth 298 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.279 ever title. Don't ask me why I know all that stuff? Okay, 299 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:22.319 please? Is it? Wimbledon is it Wimbledon. You're down to the final 300 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:29.599 four, both for the men and the women. Novak Djokovic able to get 301 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:37.680 there for a thirteenth time. His opponent had to stop. Demnor actually didn't 302 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.920 stop. He didn't play because of an injury. Didn't want it to get 303 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:47.039 worse, thought it would ruin the rest of the season, so he had 304 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:53.880 to bow out. Djokovic advances to his thirteenth semi final at Wimbledon, his 305 00:25:55.160 --> 00:26:02.279 forty ninth career semi final in a Grand Slam tournament. I don't know if 306 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:06.119 he's the best of all time. There are some people who will put other 307 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:11.240 names up there, all right, and I get it. I respect it 308 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.240 because they probably know more about tennis than I do. But if this dude's 309 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.279 not in the conversation, you're not paying attention to men's tennis. I know 310 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:23.599 the equipment's different, I know all the things that we use for other sports 311 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:30.279 today compared today's gone by. I'm not saying John McEnroe or Jimmy Connors or 312 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:36.400 Bjorn Borg would beat him, all right, all'm I don't even remember Rod 313 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.920 Laver. I just know he's a great player. But I don't know how 314 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:44.960 you can have a conversation about the greatest men's tennis player all time without Novak 315 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.119 Djokovic being in the conversation, right, because the other guys that are quote 316 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:53.279 unquote in the conversation are Roger Federer Rafael Nadal, both of which Joker has 317 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.400 more majors than that, right, Pete Sampras, Right, yeah, all 318 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.200 of them. Yep. So anyway, so we put Wimbledon in there, 319 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:07.599 Scottish Open, which starts this weekend, and the NBA Summer League, who 320 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.200 had four teams played last night, including the Lakers. No, I'm not 321 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.519 going to say it. I'm not saying it. Dalton Connect had twenty they 322 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:22.079 lost to Miami. Did you see the highlight by the way of the kid 323 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.279 from Wake Forest. He went undrafted. I think his last name is Williams. 324 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.839 He had a spin move inside in the lane and just dusted a more 325 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:36.680 famous last name player who signed in the second round a four year guaranteed deal 326 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.680 weth seven million dollars. I don't want to be that guy, because when 327 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.680 I hear interviews with this young man whose father plays on Team USA, this 328 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.960 young man seems like he's pretty grounded, seems pretty Yeah, he really does, 329 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.799 and there's a part of me that's rooting for him. There's another part 330 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:57.880 of me that goes, damn, second year or second round pick and he's 331 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.200 getting a guaranteed deal. That's bull crap. If his last name is Smith, 332 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.839 he's not getting a guaranteed deal. He might not even be drafted anyway. 333 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:14.160 You can vote as often as you want on our poll question on our 334 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.799 different social media sites, XP Mornings, Xes and Bros. Xp Mornings is 335 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:25.200 our Twitter handle, exes and bros is the Facebook page I mentioned. The 336 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:32.640 Scottish Open, Rory McElroy plays his first event since the blow up at the 337 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.759 US Open at Pinehurst. Remember he had the lead. He missed a putt 338 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.039 on Trent was at sixteen. He missed it from okay, he missed it 339 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:47.799 from two and a half feet. It's the first putt inside three feet he 340 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:53.799 has missed all year. He's only missed one pot from three feet or closer 341 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.440 all season long. There's no yips there for Rory McElroy. It just happened 342 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.319 to be one of the biggest moments of the season. Now, this is 343 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.200 a guy who has not won a major since what twenty fifteen? He has 344 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:17.279 been in the top ten in major championships twenty one times since twenty fifteen, 345 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.759 more than anybody else. The problem is he hasn't won any of those majors. 346 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.359 He may have finished in the top ten, but he is not a 347 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.240 champion in any of them. Hey, chef, it's actually twenty fourteen. 348 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.799 He won the twenty fourteen. The only reason I bring that up is that 349 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.799 makes it a full decade. Yes, sir, any time is running out. 350 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.160 I don't care. I don't care what you say. I mean time. 351 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.920 There's got to be a part of him that feels like time is running 352 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.960 short, even though he still a relatively young man. There's so many great 353 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.720 players today and so many young guys coming up and making the strong charge. 354 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.720 Yeah, when you're thirty five years old, which is not old, No, 355 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.400 not at all. But to your point, when you haven't one in 356 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.519 a decade and you're thirty five years old and you just had one in your 357 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.880 grasp and you choked it away, let's just call it what it is, 358 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:08.799 you take it away. Choke. Oh thin, it was a choke. 359 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.640 I absolutely think McElroy lost it more than the shamba won it. Hmm. 360 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.519 Now, Bryson had a great shot, but I do think we had that 361 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.240 as a pole question. Didn't we Yes? I think we did. Yeah. 362 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.039 I don't know, man, I'm very careful with the word choke. 363 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.400 That's fair. And the reason I'm not saying you're wrong. The reason I 364 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.559 say that is because of the movement on eighteen in the putt. The putt 365 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:42.240 was four feet and was strong left or right, and those greens are like 366 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:48.880 putting out the hood of a car. And I just believe you had to 367 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.000 be careful. He tried to explain it a little bit. You had to 368 00:30:52.039 --> 00:31:00.720 believe that too hard and strolling right off the green. But I do, 369 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.720 I do think there's something mentally there with Rory mcilray knowing. Look, he's 370 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:12.960 still what top five player in the world easily, okay, I mean Scotti 371 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:19.960 Scheffler, he's coming strong. He's twenty eight. Xander Schaffley. I'm not 372 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:25.039 saying he's the best in the world, but he did win Olympic gold last 373 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.759 time out in the Olympics and he's a major champion now. He's second on 374 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:38.160 the money list. He's thirty. Ludwig Oberg really good Swedish player, he's 375 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:45.799 twenty four. Sahi Thigala twenty six, Colin Morikawa twenty seven. Right, 376 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:51.440 these are young players who can flat out get it done. Sun jay In 377 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.880 he's twenty six. Akshay Battia, he's only twenty two. Hey, even 378 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:01.640 Bryson who we're talking about. Bryson and Shamba's thirty years old. Yeah. 379 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:07.720 I like Tom Kim, he's only twenty two. Cameron Young's twenty seven. 380 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.240 I don't know if you could finish it, but my point is you've got 381 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.839 some younger guys who are ready to make their move, ready to make their 382 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:20.880 mark. How much going into the Scottish Open is Rory McElroy thinking about the 383 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.799 meltdown at Pinehurst and the US Open. Here's what he had to say. 384 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.200 I can, you know, vividly remember starting to feel a little uncomfortable waiting 385 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:36.160 for my second putt on sixteen, and you know the putt on the putt 386 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.319 on the lost was. You know, it was a really tricky pot and 387 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.880 I was very aware of where Bryson was off a teue, so I knew 388 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.599 I had to hit it really soft. If if the one back didn't matter, 389 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.240 I would have hit it farmer and it would have been But because I 390 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.000 was sort of in two minds, I didn't know whether Bryson was going to 391 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.759 make a power or not. It was one of those ones where I just 392 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.480 had to had to make sure that if the putt and go in, that 393 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.079 it wasn't going ten feet by which I very easily could have so And yeah, 394 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.160 thinking back, I was probably maybe a little too aware of where Bryson 395 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.480 wasn't on what he was doing. But I think it was the nature of 396 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.240 the golf course and how the golf course flowed, and how you know, 397 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.759 after the fourteenth tee you're sort of looking at thirteen green, and then I 398 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.720 had the we had on my t shot in fifteen before he hit our you 399 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.039 know, to let him hit his second shot into fourteen, and you know, 400 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.480 there was just the way the course flowed. It just it just made 401 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.160 me very aware of what he was doing at the same time. So it 402 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.400 sort of got me out of my own little world a little bit. Think 403 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.319 about that all the things that are going through his mind. Now he's had 404 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.839 a chance to digest this. But this is a guy who's got forty professional 405 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.400 wins, all right, He's got twenty six on the PGA Tour. He's 406 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:53.440 a he's a multi major championship winner, he knows what it takes to win. 407 00:33:53.880 --> 00:34:00.119 That's why I hesitate just a little bit saying the word because he's won 408 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.400 two PGAs, he's won a US Open, he's won the Open Championship, 409 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.480 hasn't won a Masters, but he's won these majors. He's playing in that 410 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.079 US Open. He knows what it takes to win. He knows what it 411 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.199 takes to win at Pinehurst. He's been the number one player in the world 412 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:24.400 and he was there for one hundred and twenty two weeks. He understands how 413 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.440 to win a golf tournament. And yet with all that experience, with all 414 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.840 the money in his bank account, with all the majors in his back pocket, 415 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:42.079 having played that golf course numerous times, and playing with three holes to 416 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:46.719 go, a chance to win another title, a chance to get his second 417 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.320 US Open championship, those are the things that are going through his mind. 418 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.639 Now. It would be really easy for me to say, you can't think 419 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.760 about what Bryson Desham, what was going to do? You got to finish 420 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:06.760 your own business. Meanwhile, he's got to stare down a four foot putt 421 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.599 that moves heavily left to right in if you hit it too hard, it 422 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.159 could roll off the green and you definitely lose the tournament. There. This 423 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:21.760 from a guy like me who when we're playing for skins and it's five dollars 424 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.599 or we're playing wolf, I think about, Okay, am I going by 425 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:29.360 myself? Or am I going to take Trent Bally? Because he just hit 426 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.880 one one hundred and fifty yards down the middle of the fairway, But shep 427 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.480 oddly enough. This is where I just I'll push back a little bit. 428 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.760 That's where I say he choked because he knew, he knew all those things 429 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.719 he just laid out. He's Bryson's breathing down his neck and he misses a 430 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.960 couple of putts that are very, very makeable, and like you said, 431 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.199 he knows what it takes to win. All that's good and fine. It 432 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.079 just it didn't happen for him. Yeah, I guess for me, I 433 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.719 think when I think choke, I think that tells you that the pressure or 434 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.559 the moment was too big. And I just I have a hard time going 435 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:15.760 there with him because of simple things like he's one of three players to ever 436 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.559 win four Majors by the age of twenty five. Yeah, he's proven it 437 00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.880 to that point. You're exactly right. Yeah. I mean when when you're 438 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:28.880 in the conversation with Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods for that type of honor, 439 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:34.800 for that type of accomplishment, that tells me that he knows how to deal 440 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.119 with the pressure. Now there's pressure everywhere and it's self induced. And I've 441 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.480 said that constantly. I think Trent, when I be off base saying he 442 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.559 almost put more pressure on himself. And maybe that leads to your argument that 443 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:52.199 he choked, But he probably by thinking about all those different things, maybe 444 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.880 he put more pressure on himself than he needed to. Yeah, that's kind 445 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.320 of where maybe we our definition of choke is a little different. But yeah, 446 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.320 I think if you're getting in your head about things and it affects your 447 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.400 performance, which I think in this case it clearly did. And he kind 448 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.079 of admitted that, Yeah, that's where I'll go choke. Look here's what 449 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.519 I wanted to know, and I suppose he skirted around the issue a little 450 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:20.000 bit. He said it, he answered it in a lighthearted way. But 451 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:24.440 I want to know if somebody asked him during the press conference leading up to 452 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.639 the Scottish Open Round one today, did anyone ask him, do you feel 453 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:37.320 bad or why did you leave without congratulating Bryce into Shamba. Now he did 454 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.239 allude to it, saying, look, the last thing on my mind is 455 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.400 talking to you guys, the reporters. That's fine. You don't want to 456 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.400 talk to us. You want to walk to your rental car, throw your 457 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.039 bags in the back seat, take your golf shoes off, and head to 458 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.639 the airport. That's your business. I'm talking about shaking the hand of your 459 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:07.840 closest competitor. I get tired. I get tired of professional athletes telling you 460 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:14.960 and I that we don't play the game like they do, and yet they 461 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:22.000 act worse than we do in the game, that they make a living at 462 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:28.639 you and I would not do that. You play golf with your buddies, 463 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:34.559 and you play for some type of high school related trophy. I've got buddies, 464 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.400 we play in a golf outing, and what do we do. We've 465 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.159 got a trophy named after a good friend of ours who lost his life too 466 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:45.519 early, and we have our school colors jacket that I picked up at some 467 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:51.239 thrift shop as a joke, and you get to keep it until the next 468 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.159 time we play. So whoever had the lowest score gets the gold jacket. 469 00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:05.039 Whichever team wins the event the weekend low score gets their name on the trophy, 470 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.840 and we congratulate him. Way to go all this stuff. Rory McElroy's 471 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.840 playing for a championship, He's playing for millions of dollars, but more importantly, 472 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.480 he's playing for a little bit of history. And he can't stick around 473 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.880 ten minutes to shake the hand of the guy who just barely beat him. 474 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:34.480 Don't ever sit in front of a crowd of reporters and tell them, or 475 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:39.559 speak to a class or a bunch of kids and talk about sportsmanship. That's 476 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.760 why it's hard for me to listen to some of the guys who've walked off 477 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.519 the floor in basketball. Or if you're going to do that, don't complain 478 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:54.760 about anybody else who does something similar. Lebron James, Dwight Howard would have 479 00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.559 no business complaining about what Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons did against Mikey and the 480 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:07.079 Bulls when the rain ended. Don't complain about it. You've done it yourself. 481 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.159 Shep I don't disagree one iota, but can I throw this at you 482 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.440 fire? Do you think it had anything to do with live versus PGA? 483 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:22.320 Well, if it does, he's even more of a hypocrite because he supported 484 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.280 John Rahm constantly. Right, because John Ram's is good buddy and he's going 485 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:31.119 to be his Ryder Cup teammate. So stop, we can all bring out 486 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:36.480 excuses. Well, this is the reason I did it, and try and 487 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:42.440 justify it. Sportsmanship is sportsmanship. It shouldn't matter. Look, there are 488 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:50.119 guys every Sunday who bust their butt beating each other up, and when all 489 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.000 is said and done, what do they do middle of the field, take 490 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:58.079 their helmet off and shake hands, even like MMA fights UFC fights. It 491 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.960 blows my mind. These guys are trying to murder each other. And then 492 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.639 they have a great example, Oh shake hands, right, great example boxing 493 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.920 in the boxing ring, I mean outside of Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran 494 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:12.199 in their first one when Leonard raised his hands in burno and Duran wanted to 495 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.760 fight him again, while the entire ring was being crowded with the members of 496 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.199 the media and the PA announcer and trainers and so on and so forth. 497 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:25.639 But overall, you're right, I mean, they congratulate the individual warrior because 498 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.840 it's a battle and they respect the game and to your point. That's the 499 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:35.119 sportsmanship aspect of it, right right on, absolutely all right, listen when 500 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:45.840 we come back. 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