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So funny thing. The other day, I got a message from a guy

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and he was like, you know, it was regarding one of the videos

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I did recently where I was talking
about some of the new stuff that I'm

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doing and and the you know,
the podcast that I'm doing, and he's

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like, well, You're just not
going to stop out of the blue,

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out of nowhere and just disappear again, are you? And I kind of

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thought, maybe, you know,
that's except for me, you know,

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any one of us could Yeah.
Yeah, and it's not like they're paying

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for it or something. So but
I also then thought it would be funny

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to just start out of the blue. I can. So essentially, like

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the news here, which I haven't
even told you yet, is that I'm

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restarting Open Minds UFO Radio. Wow
you are yeah, you are here.

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Wow. It's a little there.
Yeah. So and the reason is,

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like I don't know, I did
review in my first rowe host report,

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you know, kind of the background
of Open Minds and everything that's happening,

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and this all culminated into the website
being down. But I am going to

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be able to bring the website back
up. I already have you know,

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all these listeners when it comes to
UFOs and the row has report. I'm

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still going to do weekly, but
it's going to be you know, people

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have to pay for that, as
you understand, because we have to put

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a lot of time and money and
effort into doing this these shows. So

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but this is what I'm going to
do. And and this is also kind

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of going to serve as an invitation
of sorts for you. Of course,

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you know I should tell the listeners
who don't know, although most do that

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I have on with me Martin Willis, Yeah, usually on with me for

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UFO News. But here's what I'm
going to do. I'm not changing a

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lot from what I've already told people. I'm doing every Friday. I'm going

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to review the news. That's going
to be my like open mind GFI radio

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newscast type of thing. And I'll
have a special guest every Friday. And

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I was wondering, hopefully you can
join me this Friday. That'd be great.

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I just well, I might be
able to change something. If not,

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that's fine, well I'll figure somebody
out. But sorry to put you

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at the spot. But like,
I'll have a guest and we'll just review

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the stories of the week and kind
of talk back and forth a little bit,

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and that's going to be the podcast
on Fridays. People might be like,

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well, what about the interviews and
other stuff. Well, that's going

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to be The Rojas Reporter. So
that is going to be a premium service.

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So oh, hey, good idea. Yeah, I get what you're

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doing. Yeah, so I mean
to monetize, So I still want to

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get you know, people with open
mind GFI radio, some content and some

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fun and good content. And we'll
definitely have fun on whether it's you or

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any of my other buddies you know
who are doing cool stuff around you know,

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the paranormal or UFOs or space or
whatever, and we'll talk about the

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news and we'll get their take and
what they think, and it'll be fun,

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casual type of thing. And I
am going to live stream that on

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YouTube. So here's kind of how
that breaks down. The Friday podcast will

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be open to everyone. He'll be
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video side of things, like live
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to on YouTube or Patreon if and
then even the audio part for The Rojas

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Report is going to be a subscription
service on Patreon or Podbean, which is

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what I'm streaming through. But it's
very cheap. It's a buck fifty a

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month, so it's super cheap people
can afford that, and then you'll get

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to hear my entire interviews. I'm
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interviews coming up here. I'm also
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I'm gonna do like lectures, my
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So here's what I'm gonna do.
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I'm gonna do tomorrow, and I'm
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know, people will probably hear this
maybe today or tomorrow. I'm still working

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on the technical side. They haven't
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streaming part to podbeams. So when
I post this today, hopefully everybody will

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get it that are subscribers, but
if not, as soon as they get

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that done, that'll happen. But
okay, I mean so, so the

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Rojas Report people will subscribe to.
If you subscribe on Patreon, you can

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you will get for a dollar ninety
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the live streams, and then for
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live on YouTube and talk with us
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works. I'm curious to know how
that works where someone can actually talk live.

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I mean they're not gonna you won't
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live in the chat, you know, like we've been doing with these live

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streams. But you can also bring
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start to do that, like,
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them in the feed if you bring
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our tool will let us do that
wow tool that we use to live stream.

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So if someone's like in the chat
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could say, anybody got a question
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and if they say yes, I
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can ask their question right here.
So that's pretty fun. And I didn't

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even know that had the capability to
do that. Amazing the technologies freaking amazing,

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dude, it is. That's awesome. So yeah, and I'm streaming

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to Patreon and YouTube at the same
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join either place and participate either place. Of course, Patreon you get everything

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at five bucks, absolutely everything,
so that's the best deal. But if

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you want to go audio only for
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stick to the free and you'll get
my Friday shows for free. I'll probably

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try to put some ads on them
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ad for a very So that's kind
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back to Open Mind GUFO Radio.
Now the Rojas Report is going to be

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more than just UFOs and that's why
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it separate. But now I've decided, you know what, I should try

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to intermingle it because a lot of
people I want to retain that Open minds

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audience, and I thought the website
was going to die. It's slowly been

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dying because I haven't had access to
the back end to keep to day.

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I've only been able to kind of
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work press, and so it essentially
died. It was slowly dying, it

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finally died. But luckily I've been
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where hopefully I'm going to be able
to get it in an area where I

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will have access to that back end
and I will be able to update everything.

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Wow, And so people can look
for the audio podcasts going up on

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a regular basis, then, yeah, so you'll get weekly podcasts just like

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normal. They'll be shorter, they'll
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thirty minutes to an hour, and
it'll be me and again kind of talking

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and having fun and casually talking about
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sci fi news, and of course
UFON news that that's what we'll be

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covering. And then if you subscribe
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through Patreon, whichever you prefer,
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of The Rojas Report, which is
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that is more in depth coverage,
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of these things live, because I'm
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one of these things. If you
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Patreon for five dollars or YouTube for
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deal and you'll be able to join
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a bunch of Patreon people. So
when I do my first one, and

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for an example, I'm like,
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to be interviews or I'm going to
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one I'm gonna do is to the
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to the Stars, and essentially it's
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about all the players involved with this
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Low, that whole entire history,
to show you how this all came about

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something you're familiar with. But you
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I ask people what do you want
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well, I'm confused. I want
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going to do that. I also
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available and sometimes people ask me about
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people were asking for aliens and religion, so kind of how eupology and the

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belief in aliens has influenced religion and
created new ones. Actually, people were

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asking about Spolberg and UFOs because I
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But I'm going to do that for
Phoenix Move On on July fourteenth, and

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that's going to be live stream,
so everybody can watch that one for free,

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actually on Open Minds. But here's
another one I'm going to do.

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I'm going to deep dive into the
details on the DoD UFO misinformation because they

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have, you know, really get
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been saying to shed doubt on what
Lou Elizondo, who worked for the UFO

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Pentagon program, was saying, and
how really everything so far that Lou has

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said, except for maybe one controversial
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out to be real, whereas all
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office has been false. So I'm
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and go through that history, which
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yeah, so that's my New World
buddy, Well, that is great,

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and I'm really interested in about the
misinformation disinformation aspect, and I'm still wondering

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if we may be getting played a
little bit here and there in different ways.

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You know that by to the stars. No, not necessarily, but

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maybe on a higher level. You
know it, you know it. I

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agree one hundred percent, and this
is why I'm really disappointed with people right

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now in this whole Wilson document affair. You know, you and I have

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talked about it. It's big on
you know, I was on Coast to

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Coasta the other day talking about it. Of course, John Greenwald and I

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have not been on good terms,
but if you don't mind me sharing,

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it was you who recommended that.
I watched John Greenwald's analysis and I thought

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it was excellent, and I was
shocked how similar I wonder if he heard

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me on Coast to Coast and thought, oh my gosh, he's just repeating

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what I did in my video,
which wasn't the case. I hadn't I

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hadn't even seen his video, and
I could see why he would say that.

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Think that because I know I've heard
a lot of similarities, and I

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think right on on a lot of
his analysis. But here's my problem is

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I keep telling people, dude,
there's been a lot of research on the

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MJ twelve documents. They've been debunked
thoroughly. I've got my own research.

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Look at all this great research,
and people are like, well, you

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know, good disinformation. Some is
real, some isn't. But they want

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to believe at all. So they
want to believe that these guys had this

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super mega secret project. And they
decided, Okay, people are starting to

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get a clue and they weren't,
so this isn't even a thing. But

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even if they said thought this way, people are starting to get a clue

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that we exist. So how can
we best hide ourselves? How about this

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will leak out information about the name
of our program, how our program was

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created, every single member of our
program, and that'll really fool everybody.

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Oh my gosh, they'll be tricked
because we're going to share everything about our

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program that makes no sense. Even
the people are saying, well, maybe

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a little bit of it's true.
Well, you people are arguing that all

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of these things are true, so
they can't all be true given arguments,

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right, Well, the best disinformation
is truth mixed in with misinformation. Well

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that is the best and multiplec and
Kevin Randall has done a lot of good

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work on this, and he has
found that there was an MJ twelve project.

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It was a Navy project, and
or it was called Majestic Cwelth something

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very similar, the same name essentially, So it would make sense that if

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they wanted to create this disinformation about
you know, this top secret government program

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and everything, that they would use
a real name of a real project so

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then people can find documents. Look, this project was referenced here and here,

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which has happened a bit, But
that may be the only truth to

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it. I think it is.
Personally. The other aspect people ignore is

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that, well, two other big
things that I'll mention before in the whole

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list of problems, but number one
is at the very first mention of this

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program and is in a document that
was leaked by an Air Force Office of

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Special Investigation officer named Richard Dodie,
who says he faked the document because he

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was leaking disinformation for his bosses.
So the very first document MJ twelve is

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mentioned in the guy who created it, who people are believing for some reason

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these days, everything he says has
said it was disinformation. But people are

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like, oh, well it's real. Well what about this guy saying it's

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disinformation? Will still doesn't mean and
some of it's not real. You can't.

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That's the way. That's sloppy thinking. It's sloppy research. You can't

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base these things. Here's the other
problem, the final one I'll mention,

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which is that the documents, the
MJ twelve documents firshomenes that got leaked are

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also the ones that list all the
members and the name and everything, all

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the whole cats out of the bag
are very similar to the research of William

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Moore and Stanton Friedman. And little
did Stanton Friedman know at the time that

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they were doing this work, that
William Moore was working with Richard Dody secretly

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to disseminate fake documents. Yeah,
I mean, the credibility is so terrible,

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it's so dubious. So then you
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like, oh, this admiral is
confirming that these aliens are real or blah

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blah blah. We haven't done to
your point, this is what this is

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all getting back to, is that
we have an inkling of an idea that

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perhaps there has been official disinformation campaigns
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Richard Doty is a liar. He's
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that's very well documented. But when
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behest of his superiors, that we
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proven and at least in the foyer
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they're essentially saying, no, we
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the record on this, And that's
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and we've got to get on the
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what this information is out there before
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is real. And that's one area
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we're completely blind. Nobody is really
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going forward and purporting that you know, this this stuff that originally was said

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to be false information based from on
disinformation is being purported as real. In

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the biggest story in the history of
euthology. Yeah, why do you think

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this? This just seems to happen
repeatedly, you know where you know,

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you mentioned, you know now it's
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thoughts on the Wilson document is,
I don't I think it's a hoax myself.

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Now, maybe I noticed so,
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email from saying that on my show, and you and I both saying that.

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mind once they have their their mind
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but I would say again, I
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an alternative answer, and he's saying, well, maybe this was you know,

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them him putting together a script for
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shows that he produces. That would
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possibilities. It's hard to say.
I don't think Eric Davis is a liar,

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but Eric Davis hasn't said that conversation
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yet he says no comment. He
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him and he's personally told me no
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a hoax? Possibly if that conversation
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did happen, anybody can be susceptible
to hoaxes. Even the group we're talking

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about, the Davis put Off Kick
Green group. You know, we're considering

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whether or not the the I think
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these seam in the same leaks with
the Wilson documents, you can see they

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were seriously considering whether or not the
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one of them, Kick Green,
the guy with the most experienced because he's

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he's you know, in the medical
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think it's real and then remember,
yeah, completely wrong. So everybody is

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susceptible to being fooled, and uh, and so are Davis and put Off

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in everybody else in TTSA. The
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whole thing is Chris Mellon. And
why would he do that? He's got

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way more experience working with black projects
and SAPs. He was kind of he

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was the guy who would go get
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with all of this, and he's the

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only kind of descender in the group. And that's because he's most experienced,

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he knows best, and I think
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from him than some of the others
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said, I believe I've said on
your show a number of times in the

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past. As a fine art appraiser, you know, I look at things

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a couple of ways that there's you
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the strongest the painting will be.
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you look at a nice painting and
you try to look for the worst part

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of it, and that is as
good as it gets for the whole painting.

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And when when really good artists got
old and they couldn't, you know,

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perform as well as are, that's
why their prices are lower for you

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know, their later work and stuff
like that. And then another thing is

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if you find a fake document and
a collection, then you have to question

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the whole collection. Once you find
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right. I think that's yeah,
go ahead. Now. I just think

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it's like a guilty to prove an
innocent situation. Yeah, and it has

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to be. And people are taking
it from the other perspective. But that's

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that's I'm sorry, that's a little
bit sloppy research. And and you're right,

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people are ignoring some of the the
bad stuff in the lot because they

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really like this one thing that they
think is good. So you know,

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you make a really great point on
that. And another thing, you know

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Ufo Joe who's been a real proponent
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love his article because he really outlines
the history of this whole Wilson document and

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everything. But now he's trying to
say Brian Bender, who's saying, I

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think this is a hoax. Brian
Bender, who's very familiar. He works

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daily writing defense or policy articles for
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converses with, with the military insiders
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doesn't ring true to me at all. To me, it's an obvious hoax,

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and UFO. Joe is saying,
well, you haven't even interviewed anybody

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regarding it. Who's he supposed to
interview Wilson, who Jillie Cox has interviewed

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and says it's not real. Davis, who's going to say no comment like

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he has with the rest of us. Miller, who is supposedly the naval

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commander retired, who got Davis into
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it doesn't didn't happen. Who's he
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mean, there's there's nothing there.
And he was saying, he was saying,

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Miller was the one to talk to
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him. But yeah, but Miller, Miller, Miller is saying, you're

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telling me that Miller is saying that
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didn't read that part. Like John
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know, to them, this is
somehow evidence that it's real. These guys

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would deny it. But you know, at the same point Greenwald was making,

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now I was making before, if
it's so important that they deny it.

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Why are they Why did they tell
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two when they didn't even know Davis. This was the very first time Wilson

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met Davis, and supposedly he was
complaining that Miller, the guy who connected

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them, leaked too much information about
what Wilson knew. Yet, when they

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introduce him to this guy, while
he's upset that they gave out too much

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information, he decides to just spill
the beans on everything with this guy he

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doesn't even know. It doesn't make
any sense at all that I think.

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If that happened to me, I'd
be like, why is this Wilson guy

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telling me this? I would take
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Yeah. The other thing we should
say, really big news. Have

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you seen the big news today about
the congressional or some type of a government

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document or something someone sent me something
I haven't looked at it yet. Yeah,

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so this is really big. This
is really cool. So the Senate

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Intelligent Committee is essentially in this new
bill for funding. In it they have

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a section on UAPs. That's right, it was, yes, the Senate

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Intelligence Committee, who essentially is who
Chris Mellen used to work for back in

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the day. They are asking for
a report on UAP. And what's interesting

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is they want it by March up
next year. And if you look,

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I've tweeted it. To the Stars
has tweeted it, a lot of people

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have tweeted it. Brian Bender just
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But they want a lot of detail. They want to know, you know,

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what is there. They want a
detailed analysis on UAP. They want

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to know information from all these different
intelligence agencies. They want to know about

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what the FBI knows because supposedly there
was some sort of FBI investigation on a

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UAP. They want to know all
kinds of stuff, and they encourage the

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Navy. Essentially, this is what's
crazy. This is really neat. This

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is kind of weird too. They
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Phenomena Task Force at the Office of
Naval Intelligence. So there's some speculation about

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this, but essentially people are saying
a TIP essentially was taken over by many

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different agencies, including the Office of
Naval Intelligence, and so that's their new

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name, the Unidadified Aerial Phenomena Task
Force, which, like Elizondo said from

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the beginning, still continues to this
day, and this is evidence of that

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as well. So I'm sure to
get much more as far as details.

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I haven't even liked. The political
story literally just hit, so I haven't

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even read that. I have been
seeing Brian Bender's tweets. But I also

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wanted to remind people that when you
try to accuse Brian Bender of not talking

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to people, Brian Bender has a
ton of sources that are insiders that he

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talks to first about every story when
deciding to go forward, and most of

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those sources don't even make it into
his stories. So you got to remember

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he's involved in the whole community that
he's talking to about this stuff, so

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he's very plugged into all of that. So yeah, one more thing.

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the other day when you're on Coast to

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coast on Sunday night, I think
it was George Knapp and you kind of

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went back and forth with the speculation
of a news story coming out in the

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New York Times, and I just
wanted to address the fact that I actually

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reached out to two people that I
think would be involved in something like that,

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Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kane, and
they both said they have nothing in

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the works, right. That is
a super important point. Thank you so

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much for bringing that up, and
great work for reaching out to those guys.

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For sure, unless tomorrow something will
break well, And that's really I

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have heard from a couple of people
who have been contacted by a reporter about

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a New York Times article, presumably
about crash retrievals. So this could be

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a ramp up to Roswell, you
know, writing a Roswell story. It

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could be following up on, you
know, the President's statement that he heard

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something weird about Roswell. But I
think what you just added is really important

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and is I don't care if I
tweet what you just said too, Oh

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sure, because it's important. Because
if those guys aren't involved, who we

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know are very well versed on this
topic, it's very probable. I think

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that whatever article will be coming out
will be tongue in cheek. It'll be

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your standard tongue in cheek Rosy.
You know President's talking about Roswell. Roswell,

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is this silly idea that aliens crashing
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I would think it would be along
those lines, unless for some reason they

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have some amazing, you know source
that's coming out to say I was there.

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Admiral Wilson is saying it's true what's
in these documents or something. You

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know, unless that's happening, which
is highly doubtful, that's probably what it

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is. And George Knapp thinks they
may be looking to write a story,

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but he thinks there's no way they're
going to write something that it's unlikely that

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they'll get enough good substantiated information to
actually pen everything or publish anything. So

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yeah, and for that type of
that type of story, they really take

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their time right before they and they
really vet things before they let it out.

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I was really surprised when Leslie told
me they took about three months two

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and a half months, yeah,
to publish that December sixteenth, twenty seventeen

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article. Yeah, for that reason, that's one of the reasons I think

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this could be a Rosewell anniversary type
of article. That makes sense. Yeah,

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So we'll see. And of course
those are a dime a dozen.

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Those come out often during the anniversary
period of time, and typically they're very

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tongue in cheek, so we'll see
what happens. Of course, a lot

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of people think they're going to be
doing some big expose on the Wilson documents,

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but unless anybody came forward, they
wouldn't be able to prove anything.

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And typically historically, when a mainstream
media publication is trying to write about UFOs

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and that whatever their topic is is
unsubstantiated rumor especially something weird and fringy like

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this, they end up making fun
of it, you know, and the

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people who believe it. So so
we'll see what happens, my friend.

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That's right, we'll see, all
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it and that ought to be fun
and funny. So we're going to do

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one Thursday kind of an introduction to
it. So and then I'll be talking

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to you hopefully on Fridays. If
not this Friday, future Fridays. You

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can't make it that's fine because I'll
get some other guests also in on that.

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But and then tomorrow, which is
Wednesday, I'm also going to be

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interviewing Bryce's Abel for Den of Geek. I'm going to be doing a live

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stream and we're going to be talking
about UFO disclosure, because I feel that

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he is really kind of on the
fringe with UFO disclosure. He's kind of

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like, you know, they need
to tell us this, this and that,

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and I'm kind of like, well, what do you expect them to

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tell you? And so that's what
I'm gonna ask him tomorrow. So we're

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going to talk about what he thinks
is going on. But also, he

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wrote a television show about a pandemic
and a lot of what was in the

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show has come true. And he
also had to postpone nine to eleven.

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When he was at the president of
the Academy of Arts and Sciences, he

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was in charge of postponing the Academy
Awards, which is what's going on now.

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So we'll talk a little bit about
that too. Yeah, excellent,

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Bryce is always great. Bryce is
great. Yeah, all right, so

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that's it. Why don't you help
me, oh, help me do my

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typical ending? Remember I think so
it's audios. I know that part.

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Okay, so that's what we're going
to do. Ready. Three two one.

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I said that no oblowence fuel at
all