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Yeah, were about to get into
it tonight. Welcome back to Calling all

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beings. I'm your host DJ.
Not only do we have a big announcement,

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but we're not gonna tell you all
about that tonight. But we are

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here to hang out with a couple
of legends. We got the senior legend

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who done be, got the junior
legend, and we got them both here.

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And thank goodness that our friend Terry
made this happen. So before we

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get into all that, my brother
from another who has done all this hard

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work and put up with my last
minute shenanigans money, Nathan, what's everybody?

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Hey? For a second there,
I thought you were calling me a

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senior legend, and I wasn't sure
what it meant. So at your age,

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Nathan, No, I'm sorry.
I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

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I got she's getting there too much
hair and too much good looks.

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So I'm about to be fifty seven
on Monday. So and I think there

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was a Chevy people liked by that
year. So that's right, Manye.

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People don't know this, but DJ
and my oldest son have the same birthday,

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So happy birthday and Andy mcgrillan amazing. It's amazing at any rate.

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It's great to be with you on
Wednesday night. Great to be with all

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of you in the audience. Looking
forward tonight's show. We really do have

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two amazing guests to talk about bigfoot
sasquatch, so I'm very excited to get

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into it with them. Got things
going down on her property? Amen,

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All right, before Debs, it's
it's it's Debs. You know you're willing

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to first of all, say hello
Daniel. First of all, Julie,

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thank you for making it in.
I don't know how the hell you did

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it because you were down. She
went and drove a friend to the doctor

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down in another city in Alabama.
And Daniel Lee Barnett, the British bigfoot

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legend. Terry hasn't heard about Daniel
Barnette. Arla hasn't heard about Daniel Barnette.

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He is a fourteen year old that
has written a book on bigfoot and

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is getting ready to hold his second
conference in the UK. I want an

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amen for that, but we have
to aim in our guest first, So

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Daniel you're gonna have to wait.
You're gonna be a guest here in a

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couple months. So Deb, thank
you for making it in here Julie as

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well. And now this gentleman here
has joined us. So this is the

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second time that he's been on cab. He was solo guest the first time.

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And I was really struck by listening
to the what happened to him as

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a result of our second guest,
who Mutt I didn't know he was speaking

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of when he first told the story. Uh. And this gentleman is the

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chief of Rock. He'l Bigfoot in
South Carolina and it says respect between us

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and I kind of thought about how
I would want to interact or view Bigfoot

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softsquatch in their house when I'm out
in the woods and I'm and I'm in

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search of them, and so I
was inspired to have this gentleman on and

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boy did he not disappoint. He's
just really a bright light. So part

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of people put those hands together from
my man coming back carry window. What's

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up, guys, what's up?
Man? That's that's that's a tall order.

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You You built me up pretty big
there. I'm a little worried.

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I got big shoes. Phil.
Well, you know I said to you

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the other night, You're awesome,
Terry, and You're like, what me?

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Why am like what do you mean
because you're you come on, I

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appreciate that. It's still to this
day amazes me that people actually want to

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hear me talk about this stuff.
I'm just a guy out in the woods

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trying to figure out what's going on, you know what. But you do

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it in such a way, right
right, Nathan, Like he he really

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has that. He kind of reminds
me of Sybylla a lot. He just

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has that presence about him, you
know. Thank you so yeah, So

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his mentor is this next young lady
right here who has a foot. Actually,

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like the photo of her doing the
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must have been. She must have
been a very young girl when she took

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that photo. You guys have seen
her, as she mentioned in Flash of

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Beauty, and I've seen one in
two. I think she was in one,

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but she may have been in both
for all I know. And Rick

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was definitely in two because we had
Rick Rick Taylor on as well. He

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was one of our very early,
very first bigfoot guests. He might have

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been our second bigfoot guest. Uh. And so this woman is famous for

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having this property in Oklahoma that is
prolific in terms of as a habituation site

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and people have had their first really
really big encounter or at least encounter that

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didn't terrify them on her property.
So part of people put them hands together

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for Oklahoma's oh miss Arler, William
oh good grave Man for l a legend

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now senior, Yes, I trumple
all of you guys in age. I'll

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be seventy five my birthday, so
you're older than me at fifty. Yes,

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I'm older than a lot of people
and maybe in some ways younger than

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a lot of people. Right,
Oh, definitely, definitely. Terry will

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probably test to that. Thank you
guys for having me on. And Terry

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he's kind of special to me.
He is to He's a good guy,

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you know, and I've met through
the years. Of course, I've been

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in this a long time in my
life, almost seventy years of knowing.

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But in the in the life of
the big Foot community, you know,

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I've been around for quite a while
and hadn't changed my story yet. So

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yeah, now, no, not
at this late date, I don't.

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I don't think so so. But
one thing, I am not an habituator.

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This is I'm believe me. I
don't want to change anything about them

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I mean, this is a lifelong
thing with them. I'm not a researcher.

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I don't research to try to prove
things. I'm just somebody who,

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you know, had a very early
encounter with them and had a grandmother that

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knew all about them. And that's
her photo and where she's doing the Bigfoot

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walk and that's early few that's that's
my grandmother, that early fifties. Wo

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and I hadn't seen that photo before
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She wanted to give me some photos
and stuff and we were looking at

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that and I said, Gran,
what are you doing? And she said,

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I'm doing the walk. So that
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prior to Patterson, Gimblin and you
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knew and Jess decided she was going
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So yeah. So so Jerry Crew
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Yeah, and I think named it
named Bigfoot, yes along or in

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the news story that they covered that. And this, the fact that this

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predates it means that it wasn't an
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knew that Patty existed. Obviously,
your grandma knew that Bigfoot existed. Oh

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yeah, yeah, she knew her
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age six is when my actual knowing
and interactions started with them. So man,

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I'm almost seventy five, so that's
a long time ago. You look

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phenomenal, darling. There's two things. First, one to say hi to

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Vinnie in the chat, Hai,
Vinnie, disclose your team. In second,

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Arloe, if you can just keep
an eye, you can see the

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water behind me. If you see
a shark coming up behind me, please

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let me know. Okay, what
do you want me to let you know

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about? You can't see the see
the ocean, you can see the I'm

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supposed to be in the water.
Sorry, Coe, you guys are white.

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I can't see. All I got
is my tie die behind me.

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I'll pick. I'll pick a tie
die any day. I would have see

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if I knew you were in a
tie die. These guys know that I

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have a tied eye dress shirt,
so I would have worn that tonight,

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at least one. I think he's
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yeah, you should have left that
out of the bio. I like tye

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die. I would I would have
done that, Hi, Carolina, So

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anyway, let me get to Money
Nathan with his first question, Jo,

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and we're gonna just keep going,
you know, we'll keep going. We'll

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vacinate between you and Terry and the
way we like. I'll ask some Nathan

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and dabs and we'll kind of and
also we're going to have a special guest

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host from another show will also be
joining us. But go ahead, Money

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Nathan, sir. Yeah, thanks, dj Arla. It's great to have

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you with us on the show tonight. We've had Terry on the show,

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so Terry also great to have you
back with us. Arli, your names

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come up a lot in the community
of folks that we've talked to, and

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we hear your name reference quite a
bit. And before I would like you

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to talk about your background with Sasquatch
and Bigfoot kind of your story, I'd

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like to little get into a little
bit about the community aspect, because it

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does seem to me that one sense
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that you represent this community kind of
family vibe, and I'm curious where where

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does that come from. Is that
you know the family that you grew up

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with. Is it something that you've
you've kind of tried to nurture in your

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adult life. What does family mean
to you? Yet? I was taught

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that they were our neighbors, and
you know, growing up they are there.

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And my grandmother, you know,
always said there are neighbors, and

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as our neighbors, sometimes you see
your neighbors and sometimes you don't, but

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you always have respect between each other. And so my whole life has been

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based on that respect. And you
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share my experiences. I've said time
and time again, I'm not here to

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prove anything. I'm I'm going to
share what I've experienced. The only thing

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I ask is don't throw it out. File it away somewhere, and maybe

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at some point you will have something
happen, or somebody you trust, you

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know, have something happen, and
then you can say, wait a minute,

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I heard something about that, and
so you already have a reference of

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that possibility. Now, you know, when I came into this, it

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was like, oh boy, you
know I was named the Immaculate Mother of

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Who. So all I knew to
Dot's chair, and so I shared it

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all. If you don't, if
you're studying something, you don't tear a

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page out and go I don't want
to study that. You study all of

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it, and you can't throw anything
out until you've looked at it. And

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I ruffled a lot of feathers,
you know when I started talking, because

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at that time, you know,
it was it was really really bad.

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It's not near as bad now either. They've all accepted, you know what

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I say. But the fact is
there's a whole lot more now like me,

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uh than you know before. Plus
people are open in their hearts,

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and they're shifting their paradigm. If
you want to know something while you're out

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there, shift your paradigm. And
that's Terry. I'll tell you I hadn't

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said that to him, you know, open up and shift that paradigm and

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just see what you can experience.
You know. Wes Germer of a Sasquatch

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Chronicles, which is, you know, quite obviously the biggest bigfoot show there

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that there is out there. He
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you know, Wes, you need
to open your aperture, you need

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to look at it all. Exactly
what Arla just said is what uh,

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doctor bender Nagel said to uh to
Wes, and he is a lot more

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open. Hey, Mick, and
he is a lot more open than he

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was, So yeah, I really
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either Terry Arlow or both. Actually, if you like well, Arle,

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you mentioned that your first encounter happened
when you were six, and for those

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who are not as familiar with your
background, I was wondering if you could

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talk about what that might have been. Like I mentioned that was at the

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age of six, a little bit
scary. I would love to hear about

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that. Well. From the time
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to the woods. I was a
problem child, I have to say for

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my mom. But I was at
my grandmother's and I was outside, sitting

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on the ground, playing in the
dirt, and I was forever playing with

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sticks and flowers and leaves and all
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I'm sitting there doing that and I
hear somebody walk up and I think it's

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my grandmother. But when I look
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looking at me. And we just
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You know, I'm gosh, that's
awful Harry kid, you know, And

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then in my mind, you know, you go, what the what the

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heck? Look at all that hair, but he looks like a boy.

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But you know, so at a
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off. I went in told my
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I said, what was that,
Granny? And she said, what

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do you think it was? And
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what I had seen. She didn't
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let me sit with it. And
then a little later she began to teach

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me about them. Now, interesting
thing about that. At six, my

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mom uh and I were talking.
She had a hard time with the bigfoot.

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She she was afraid of everything,
so you know, she didn't want

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anything to do with it. You
don't talk about it, of course,

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we were taught not to talk about
it. But we were talking just a

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few years before she died, and
she said, Arla, do you remember

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that time when you were three and
you were sitting on the bed and I

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was in the closet getting clothes,
you know, And I said, yeah,

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Mom, I remember that. You
know, I'm three years old,

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but I still remember this incident because
I was sitting on the bed talking to

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somebody who was standing at the window
with the window open, and Mom heard

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me talking and coming out of the
closet and she screamed for my dad,

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who was taking a bath, and
she said, there's a dirty, hairy

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man at the window, and Arla's
talking to him. And Dad comes through,

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picked up a butcher knife and took
out the back door, and he

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didn't see anything. And I said, tell mom, I remember all of

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that. And she looked at me
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was a bigfoot? And I said, well, Mom, what do you

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think? She said, I think
it was And then she said, oh,

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I saw a bigfoot. I said, yes, you did, Bob.

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one through the window, but I
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I don't remember, you know if
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know, I knew for certain that
uh, when my grandmother told me what

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it was, that, you know, what I was seeing was starting at

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that at that point. It's so
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way that their parents find out is
they scream when that happens, when the

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when when a bigfoot comes to the
window, which they do. It doesn't

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matter if it's a house or trailer, you know, they do. They're

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curious. They'll come and slap the
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put their face up and the child
will scream. But obviously Arla, we've

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heard two cases now at three and
at five where she didn't scream. Terry,

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what's going on here? I mean, why is Arla not scared?

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Brother? I don't have all the
answers. I don't even have all the

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questions. Truly. When I first
got into this, I had no clue

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what to expect. I spent a
lot of summers on a farm. We

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had stuff going on, I had
weird speriences. This was way back in

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the late sixties, before we had
the internet. I had no clue what

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was going on. And then I
saw the legend of Boggy Creek and I

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knew exactly what was going on.
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my adult life and some of my
younger life trying to figure out what is

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this Ano. There's something there.
I have no doubt there's something there.

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I don't think these are just animals. This is this is something more than

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just an undiscovered eight. These are
people. They're not like us, but

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they're people, and if you treat
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when you when a guest comes into
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the woods, we're in their house. So if you are respectful, if

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you don't go in and trash the
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go into the woods, just sit
and read a book. Look, you

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don't have to go walk around stomping
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or stick your foot in a got
for hole and break your knee. If

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they're there and they want to interact
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don't. Okay, it wasn't that
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there's there's more going on. Arla
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when when she first started, she
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things that used to be. Oh, that's just completely wo and no,

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no, that can't happen to mm
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don't know what it is, but
there's something going on. More and more

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people that are that are out doing
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it publicly, they're starting to realize
that this is this is more than meets

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the eye. This is more than
just an animal in the woods. That

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that's why I'm out there now trying
to figure out what is this, what

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are they? Where did they come
from? Who came first? I don't

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know where did they come from?
I don't know. I haven't had the

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opportunity to ask one yet. Hopefully
one day I'll get a chance. But

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you know, they're I don't think. I think if we go into the

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to a situation without anger, without
fear, just just leave all of your

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human you know, prejudgments behind.
I think they know that. I think

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they can tell our intentions. Again, I don't know how you call it.

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What you want to Lefty whoever,
I don't know. But just like

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you know your dog knows when you've
had a bad day, sure these guys

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are smarter than your dog. So
I think a lot of that stuff we

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have to leave. We have to
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the woods. And it's scary,
I will tell you right now. I

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still say times get creeped out in
the woods. I'm still working with it.

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Arla walks in the woods and thinks
nothing of it, and you know,

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it's no big deal. The woods
are scared of Arla. The woods

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respect Arla and all respects the wood
kidding. So you know this is like

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Carla said, don't discount things without
first at least taking a look. You

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know, I don't have to agree
with you. You don't have to agree

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with me. We still go eat
pizza and be friends. But if you

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just throw something out just because that
doesn't fit or I don't like it,

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You're apt to miss something that was
a piece of the puzzle that you need.

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I've had several instances happen like that
where I just had to sit back

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and go m isn't that interesting?
Learned something today, didn't you? You

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just mentioned my favorite food that that
could be a signed Nathan. I feel

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like this is a good time.
Let's play Steve one and then I'd like

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to get Arla and Terry's take,
and then as well you and Deb's as

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well. Could you play Steve one? Please? This is from by the

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way, I just sm just set
this up. This stuff. I'll tell

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the go ahead, DJ, I'll
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I should have So this is Matt
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and our still friend and someone who
I hope will come back and co host

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with Us. We love Matt and
his show. Interviewing Steve from Appalachia who's

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a scientist from University of Florida.
Please go ahead, sir, mystical stuff

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do you attribute to just things that
we just don't really understand yet scientifically?

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One hundred I was gonna say,
do you think there's anything out there?

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I mean, it's such a hard
concept to even grasp, but the idea

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that there are things that defy all
explanations, even beyond our own comprehensions or

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whatever. There's actually something truly mystical
out there? Or is it just stuff

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that we don't have the right sensory
organs or we don't have the right tools

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of measurement to understand it at this
point? Both one hundred percent both,

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and you're going to get that answer
to a lot of questions tonight. One

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percent. Both. We don't understand
anything. See that's this is the thing

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at the core of it. We
don't understand anything. Now. We know

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how some things work, but do
we understand it understanding and being able to

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I don't know how combuinction engine works, but I can drive a car,

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yeah, you know, I don't. I could not build a computer I

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don't really know how computer works,
but I use them all the time.

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So it's kind of like that.
Our very physical sciences, our Newtonian physics,

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clearly is just missing a piece of
the equation. There's something that it

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just has not factored in yet,
which I suspect is consciousness that's underpinning the

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whole thing. So is there something
out there? Clearly there is. Do

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we have any inkling what it is? Or have we ever? Probably not?

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Can we even know? I don't
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by primate brains. And even though
we have a very advanced and highly evolved

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primate brain, that is a physical
construct within a physical seeming setting, and

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so there are going to be things
that we may never be able to grasp

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as long as we are in that
physical construct. That's it, Arla,

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your thoughts the phenomenon writ large,
Well, I've seen too much. I

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have seen Native elders do things that
people say, oh, that can't be

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done. I've literally watched it.
And you know, I am in the

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woods every day. We are not
the only ones in this universe, and

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we are not the only sentient being
on this earth as well. So we

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are just scratching the surface scientifically.
You know. Ron Moorehead and I talked

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years ago when he first started doing
the quantum physics, and he had asked

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me, he said, I want
you to read this paper that I'm working

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on, and I want your opinion
of if you think it's in the ballpark

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of what you know. And so
I didn't understand most of what I read,

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but he explained it to me,
and I said, sure, you

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know, I can't explain it scientifically, but I have seen them do these

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things. I've seen other humans do
things that most people say can't be done.

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And so if we keep ourselves in
this little box of this is what

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we know at this moment, then
no, you won't ever know unless you

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open that box and put yourself in
a place not jumping in and saying,

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oh my god, that's it.
But don't negate it. Either set with

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it and think about it and talk
to other people. That's the main reason

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that I do what I do is
for other people to help connect with them.

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I don't tell people what to think, and you know, but I'm

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here, Oh listen, you can
trust me. There was a lot of

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people in the bigfoot world that wouldn't
even mention the word WU when I came

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into this, But they would privately
talk to me and tell me things,

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you know, that were going on. A lot of people on BFRO would

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talk to me, but they knew
they were safe. It wasn't my place

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to tell, you know, what
they were telling me. And I didn't

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tell them what to believe. I
just them talk and come, you know,

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to their conclusions. That's how I
was taught, and I believe that

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that's really how someone learns, is
to learn by opening themselves up to the

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experiences that they're rabbit. So Terry's
wanting to highlight the quantum Bigfoot by Ron

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Morehead. I guess you meet Ron
last year in Okalla. Awesome guy,

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and Julie wanted to point out that
doctor Simeon Hines dark matter monsters also great

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guy, great book, former guest, and I agree that I don't even

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personally Arla before I passed to Terry, I don't even use the word WU

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because I find that labels can can
conjure emotions that aren't necessary. You know,

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we're analyzing Bigfoot. You know this
this this creature that we don't know

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the exact origin but appears to be
part human and part animals, you know,

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like us, I guess and I
just say, maybe it has some

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abilities that we don't quite know how
to how to contextualize. But when I

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use the word WU, then people
can they're happy because they can automatically put

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me in a box. So I
try not to use that. But no

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box, people don't go in boxes. Good point. But you know you

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had talked about doctor Bender Nigel earlier, Doctor Bender Nagel was mentioned. I

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did a conference with doctor Big Bender
Nigel in UH, British Columbia several years

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ago, and he even went camping
UH with us and I got to visit

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him, and he was so open
minded to all of this. But it

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wasn't something he could just go out
and say, you know, this is

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what I think, because he was
about having uh, some kind of line

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of proof that these things are happening. But he's all so who oh my

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gosh, he was he must be
based on what I've heard, and like

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Terry, I want to go out
in the woods with Arla. Terry,

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sir, what did you think of
of? What? What did you think

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of? What Steve had to say? Oh? He was. I think

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he's just spot on. Let's let's
talk about something real quickly. Let's let's

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talk about the word magic. We
throw the word magic around all the time.

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I got a big lighter in my
hand here today, No big deal.

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You strike flame up with that thing. The big deal costs a buck.

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Take that back a couple of hundred
years. Just a couple of hundred

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years. Walk out into public and
flick that thing and fire comes out of

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it. You're probably going to be
in jail, and then you're probably going

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to be burned at the state because
back then you were magic and that was

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of the devil. Magic is a
word that we use to describe something right

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now that we don't currently have tools
in our toolbox to understand. So don't

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poo poo something just because it gets
to label magic. All this quantum stuff,

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you know again, I love Roy
Moorhead's book Quantum Bigfoot. It's absolutely

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spot on in my opinion, about
a lot of things that are going on.

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There's more going on on this planet
than we see. We live in

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a three dimensional world. There's more
around us than we have any idea that's

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going on. We don't have the
tools yet to understand it or to see

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it. We can see the periphery. We can see the results of some

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of the things that happen, but
we don't have a clue as to what's

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really behind it because we can't see
through that curtain yet. I think we

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will at some point if we keep
growing and going forward and don't blow ourselves

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up in the process. I think
I think we can learn. There's a

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lot of things that I have have
learned that initially, when I first started

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this years ago, i'd have looked
at people and gone, aren't you sweet?

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No, bless your heart? Okay, portals, portals, portals,

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Oh my gosh. When I first
started this, portals, yeah, bless

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your heart, aren't you sweet?
Until I saw one open? Yeah,

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right, and that, you know, that changes everything. We've actually got

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a group I was with actually has
that on thermal. The Meadow Project.

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The Meadow Project another another great one
I've got. It's a book there and

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I get no money from this book. It's just a good, good book.

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I know those guys in the theory
in that book. But we were

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in the meadow. I was sitting
there with a bunch of people. We

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were in there, fourteens and we
A buddy of mine and I had gone

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down into that meadow as we did
all the time in the daylight, walked

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around, looked at things. Okay, that's a rock that's gonna look like

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a big foot at night. That's
a big bush that's gonna look like a

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big foot at night. There's a
tree over there that's gonna look like Okay,

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so we know where everything is.
We get down there in the middle

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of the night, get all settled
and kind I'm kind of abridging this,

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But all of a sudden, I
hear my buddy next to me say what

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is that square thing out there?
And it didn't dawn on me what he

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was saying at first, and I
hear him again, he said, what

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is that square thing I'm looking at? And at that point it hit me

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there is no square thing. We
were down here this afternoon. What are

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you talking about? So I just
leaned over and said, what you got?

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He said, here, take a
look, sure is the world.

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There was a square opening up right
there on his thermal. You could not

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see it with your naked eye.
I don't know what it was. I

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don't know where it came from,
but it's there. Until you actually see

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00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.320
it, you know, that's it's
a different thing. So now I'm thinking,

408
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.840
Okay, now I got a number
one, apologize to all the people

409
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.119
that that I snickered at. And
number two what is this? And truly,

410
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.079
I think portals right now, this
is my opinion. It's kind of

411
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:15.159
like an ant waking up and finding
that someone has has built a road next

412
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.559
to their ant. He'll and from
the ant's perspective, he has no idea

413
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.239
what it is. He has no
idea who built it, he has no

414
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.880
idea what it's used for. I
think that's kind of the way we are

415
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.440
about those and a lot of things. So you know, don't don't throw

416
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:37.039
something out just because initially it goes
against what you've been taught. Sometimes you

417
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.840
have to earn unlearned things a little
bit. Yeah, and I agree with

418
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.719
everything you said. And by the
way, there is a I heard one

419
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:53.639
of Terry's colleagues interviewed who told the
exact same story. He was an EMT

420
00:35:54.559 --> 00:36:00.679
and Terry was out there with a
group of professional colleagues, a group of

421
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.239
professionals that were doing this work,
and they were professionally set up to capture

422
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.159
Bigfoot and got a lot more than
what they bargained for in terms of the

423
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.320
portal. First of all, before
Nathan, before you go, I'd like

424
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.559
to welcome the stage the host of
all things unexplained. My friend. He's

425
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:22.480
Terry's brother to the north because he's
in North Carolina, but he's from Mississippi.

426
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.360
Put your hands together for doctor Tim
Mountce. Hey, thanks so much,

427
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.519
thank you. I really apologize for
being late, and it's so good

428
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:35.840
to be here. Thanks for having
me. Hi Nathan, La Hi Dale,

429
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.000
Hi, Terry h DJ. Let
me tell you, yeah, I

430
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.800
apologize for being late, but I
just returned from Rosville, New Mexico.

431
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.800
And the hitchhiker effect is real,
y'all because it's it's hitchhike to sway on

432
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:55.280
back to North Carolina. Doctor Tim
Mounts, Oh my god, I love

433
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.400
this guy, Nathan. I just
want to ask you an unfortunate I'm going

434
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.320
to have to send Tim that MP
three so that he can hear it that

435
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.360
clip of, but he may have
actually listened to the episode Steve with Matt

436
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.679
of Bigfoot Crossroads. Did you have
some comments Nathan about what Steve said?

437
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:19.199
Was that intriguing at all? Oh? Yeah, totally. I Mean this

438
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.800
whole conversation has been you know,
right right down our Alley here in terms

439
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.800
of paradigm changing and opening the aperture. And you hear that a lot.

440
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.000
It's great to hear it from other
disciplines, right, So we hear that

441
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.480
quite a bit in the UFO community, but hearing it in the Bigfoot community

442
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.079
as well. I think it just
signals that we're going through a kind of

443
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:45.800
shift in our society, recognizing that
the way we were doing things, the

444
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.400
way we thought we know, the
things we think we know to be true,

445
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:55.400
those things are changing and we're willing
to bring more information, more maybe

446
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.920
even more uncertainty into our picture of
the world. And that is kind of

447
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.760
it's unsettling, right. We don't
like to not have all the answers,

448
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.599
and our kind of enlightenment science has
all been built on let's just study this

449
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.480
a little bit more. Let's get
a better microscope so we can understand what

450
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.960
this is. And once we understand
it, then we'll fully have mastery over

451
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.960
it and we can do something with
it. That's kind of been the aim

452
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.000
of our science is to master it
and then do something with it and control

453
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.440
it, and that's what we get
our technology. But I think we're kind

454
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.800
of coming to a place where we're
recognizing that that's not all there is to

455
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.960
reality. Reality is more complex and
strange and weird than just that. And

456
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.480
so the more people that think that, the more people that get exposed to

457
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.880
that. I think all of your
experience speaks to this very well. The

458
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:52.320
more people that come to that place, then things also begin to shift with

459
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.400
them, and it becomes a kind
of almost cotageous thing that happens. And

460
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.000
this is how paradigms do change,
that they change kind of gradually. And

461
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.159
so I just believe that we're going
through a time right now where it is

462
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.639
happening. And you know, if
we were to have a historical perspective,

463
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.840
we could go into the future one
hundred years and look back at this time,

464
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:15.480
we would see that the seeds of
the change are evident, but they're

465
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.119
not necessarily evident all of the people
who are here right now. I'm not

466
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.119
saying that people in this room,
but people in society in the world right

467
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.360
now. It's funny. And Nathan, the Bigfoot behind you, I don't

468
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.559
know if that's the one that came
and poked the tent like our law.

469
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.639
I'm sure told that Bigfoot go to
Terry's tent and mess with him tonight.

470
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.840
That was what you didn't hear,
Terry when you were picking up trash.

471
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.760
That's that's what happened. You're not
going to cop to that early. No,

472
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.280
No, they do what they choose
to do. So I just had

473
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.039
to explore this as a possibility.
It's just I'm doing Rick, I'm doing

474
00:39:52.119 --> 00:40:00.800
Rick Taylor's investigative techniques here. I
have no control. I'm over this.

475
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.400
I'm just I'm just here. My
heart's open, you know. So I

476
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:15.239
listen and and yes, I was
in the paranormal Bigfoot to you with Flash

477
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:21.639
of Beauty. And actually when Rick
Wood talk then they had me. And

478
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:27.920
then towards at almost the end of
it, they put what I've said from

479
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:32.199
day one, don't throw it out, file it away. I'm with you,

480
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.559
Uh, Debs, can I get
your lease on? Steve? I'm

481
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.840
so excited to talk about this.
So he was talking about our limitations and

482
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:50.119
understanding, and I think the biggest
limitation we have is being human, not

483
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:54.519
being part of the planet and an
animal, but being human and thinking that

484
00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:00.400
we're separate from the other things on
the planet. Because if you break it

485
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.519
all down, which I have,
there's some really weird things that people would

486
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:10.159
call wu or magical happening naturally,
and we are the only ones who are

487
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.840
like, oh, that can't happen. But it's happening all around the planet.

488
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.360
And an example is the way,
like for instance, fun guy and

489
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:24.639
plant life communicate with each other with
chemical messaging and electrical signals, and that

490
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:31.000
happens from the microbiological level all the
way up. We're the only animal probably

491
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.559
that doesn't realize that we're doing it, you know, so like I actually

492
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.639
begin to think that we might that
might explain telepathy for instance, that we're

493
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.599
probably doing it too, we like
it happens with all these other species,

494
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.920
right, So I guess my point
is the only limitation really is that we're

495
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.719
human, not you know, anything
else, but the fact that we think

496
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:00.400
that we're separate. Yep, Can
I just ask you one further question,

497
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:07.440
Yes, the point that Steve was
making where he asked, he questioned whether

498
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.679
or not we have the capacity to
understand do we If we get more primal

499
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.840
and accept that we're part of this
planet and not something other and special and

500
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:22.840
above everything, we could probably connect
back to the other species on the planet.

501
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:28.880
And if you look at some of
our relatives our cousins. They're probably

502
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.480
doing it. You know, they're
probably using infrasound and things like that.

503
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.719
And you know, if we could
just step out of our egos, you

504
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.360
know, we could probably do it
all to you and start to understand.

505
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.639
Tim. I just want to get
some of your thoughts on you. You've

506
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.440
heard what everyone had to say.
They're commenting on what Steve said to Matt,

507
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.280
and I don't know if you heard
that pod or not, but just

508
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.000
based on the tenor of what you've
heard, that's a good question. I

509
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.840
don't know if I'm qualified to jump
in on it at this point, but

510
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:07.199
okay, we'll put you back and
I'm skiddy, you know, basically I

511
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.119
will send you that clip. But
basically he's talking about that we don't understand

512
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.239
anything about the phenomenon, and he
questions if I were to encapsulate Nathan,

513
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.039
he said, we don't understand anything, and he's not positive that we actually

514
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.000
can understand it all. Is that
right? If I were to break it

515
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:28.679
down into one sentence, yeah,
I think that's it right. And we've

516
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.320
talked about this many times that are
we're limited by our senses, right,

517
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.880
We're very limited by what we can
actually receive about the world, and all

518
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.559
we know about the world is coming
to us just through our senses. There's

519
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:49.559
no way we can experience reality outside
of our sense perception of it. And

520
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.639
so he's acknowledging that truth and acknowledging
that there's a lot happening. You know,

521
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.199
Terry's spoken about this too, there's
a lot happening outside of that very

522
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.559
narrow band of our ability to perceive. And you know, I like Terry

523
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:07.559
talking about the computer because you know, Bernardo Castrop likes to use that analogy

524
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.960
too, and he talks about,
you know, icons on the screen or

525
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.719
sorry, Donald Hoffman, he's at
this analogy icons on the screen. You

526
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:19.480
know, you're not looking at it
on your desktop. And it's not an

527
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.960
actual trash can, but we you
know, we put things in there.

528
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.199
It's representative of, you know,
taking out the trash and that's really what

529
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.559
reality is. You know, the
trash can you see in your kitchen or

530
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.320
whatever, you know, isn't it's
real, not that it's not real,

531
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:39.079
but it's representative of a deeper reality
that we can't actually tap into beyond that

532
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.360
as we have a limited perception of
it. But he did identify consciousness as

533
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.000
maybe the key to it. Well, I actually do have some thoughts on

534
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:55.280
that. DJ. Well, please
let me clear the stage, so I'll

535
00:44:55.320 --> 00:45:00.119
diverge from Nathan just a little bit, because you know, I'm a big

536
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:06.480
Albert Einstein fan. And Albert Einstein
was looking for a theory of everything,

537
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.239
but he got thrown off by a
little thing called quantum mechanics. And he

538
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:15.159
had been called something called quantum entanglement, you know, spooky spooky action at

539
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.960
a distance. And this kind of
really threw Einstein for loop. And here

540
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.920
many years later, I had a
chance to talk to Eric Bard, you

541
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.840
know, chief scientist at Skinwalker Ranch, and I really love something Eric said.

542
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:34.480
And Eric said that he is looking
for nothing less than a unifying theory

543
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:44.159
that can explain everything that they're seeing, from the paranormal to the macro,

544
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.920
to the micro, to the physics, to the quantum physics, to the

545
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.840
mathematics, all of it. And
I think that, you know, we

546
00:45:52.519 --> 00:46:00.599
quantum physics, mathematics. It gives
us insight into things that we cannot perceive

547
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.440
or may not be aware that we're
perceiving. They may be perhaps having an

548
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.199
effect on us. There could be
something on the far side of the of

549
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:15.119
the universe through you know, quantum
entanglement that is having some sort of effect

550
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.079
on us. And the key to
it. I think one of the keys

551
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.960
could be, you know, physics
and mathematics and science, and so I

552
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:31.599
do think that there is hope out
there too unify all these things in a

553
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:37.039
way that ties them all together.
It's sort of like having that right mixture

554
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:43.000
of flowers, salt and everything to
make that great apple pie. Anybody here,

555
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.960
bake Arlo, Terry? Anybody no? My wife? Does? Arlos?

556
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.119
Say yes? And Tim's Tim's raising
his hand? All right, me

557
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.360
too, because I bag. So
what I want to do now, Nathan,

558
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.639
Let's play that second clip and then
that I want to get to like

559
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.519
how Arla and Terry met and if
it was during that first camping counter.

560
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:10.840
But let's play that second clip,
if you will, please? Do you

561
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.960
want to introduce it at all?
Oh? So try to a Matt Napp

562
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.000
of Big Pot Crossroads. This is
his guest, Steve, who is a

563
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:21.800
scientist from grew up, as he
describes it, in the foothills of Appalachia.

564
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.039
He wants to maintain his anonymity.
He was a scientist at University of

565
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.079
Florida, which means he's almost as
smart as doctor Mounts as far as we're

566
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:47.119
concerned. But isn't it interesting that
you have all these different communities of people,

567
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.159
all these I mean just civilization,
just different societies all over the world,

568
00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:01.360
different belief systems, everything, religions, all the different things where there's

569
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:07.960
so many things that are talked about
and just different names applied to them,

570
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:09.960
but they're all talking about the same
thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

571
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:15.639
How can you not see that as
acknowledgment that these things do exist and are

572
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.760
very real? Absolutely? Well,
you know, humans are fear based,

573
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:30.199
and I find the more committed a
given person is to their belief system,

574
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:37.760
the more willing they are to shut
out parts of observable reality. So on

575
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.360
the religious d end, people are
going to, you know, immediately go

576
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.159
to demon no matter what it is. And then on the science end,

577
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:45.800
they're going to go to, oh, that can't be real because it doesn't

578
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.119
fit our Newtonian physics. Most of
those are fear responses in my opinion,

579
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:59.960
you know, because they are desperately
clinging to their certainty in a given store

580
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.159
and they don't want anything that's going
to interfere with that story. You know,

581
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.679
they're looking for confirmation biases. They're
not looking for mysteries outside of their

582
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.920
their badly wick right. But yeah, these things are everywhere. They're constant,

583
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:17.880
they've always been going on, they're
always described. You can go to

584
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.280
any culture on Earth and you're going
to find these stories. And that's like

585
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.920
with with my ancestors. So that
that was it right there. I cut

586
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.400
it right there, But I thought
that was really good. So Arlow,

587
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.079
what did you what did you think
of that? And then we'll just kind

588
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.840
of have some free free talk about
that. What what did you think of

589
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.159
what he said there? I didn't
hear anything he said? I heard nothing?

590
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.000
Is it because of the Jack Russell
terrier in the background. No,

591
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:54.280
that is Malibu that docs and Chouala
her daddy came home. So did anybody

592
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.000
hear that? Nathan or Terry?
Yeah? I got it. Tell me

593
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.320
Malibu hello for me. I will
oh. Yeah. The The part truly

594
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.800
I'd like to address is the fear
based concept that he said that is absolutely

595
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:15.880
true. Why is it that anytime
we start talking about aliens or anything else

596
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.079
that we don't understand, Well,
they're always here to conquer us, to

597
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.800
subjugate us, to carry us off
to do whatever. Why is that is

598
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.920
that reality? Or could it be
perhaps if that's what we've done to each

599
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:34.280
other throughout our existence here, that's
all we know. So yeah, we're

600
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:39.039
we're absolutely fear based. We're reactionary, and you gotta work hard to get

601
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:45.599
past that. I've done my best
again. I I'm not nearly as afraid

602
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.480
of going out in the woods and
running into a big Foot as I used

603
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.440
to be, because because I've kind
of learned. You know, if you

604
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.239
if you talk to them and tell
them. It sounds crazy, but I've

605
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.719
seen it work. I've done it. Hey, I'm not here to hurt

606
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.280
me by. I'm just here to
kind of hang out and learn about you.

607
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.440
If you want to be around,
that's fine. If not, that's

608
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.679
okay. I just call it talking
to the woods now And I used to

609
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:15.559
laugh at that. It works.
If nothing else, it makes you feel

610
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:23.199
more comfortable in your own skin.
But there is you're projecting your intentions and

611
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:30.239
you're getting past your fear. So
you know that's I don't think bigfoot are

612
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:35.039
there to kill us. I don't
think they're blood thirsty. I don't you

613
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.639
know, like you hear people talk
about that. Oh I got running out

614
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.320
of the woods by Bigfoot. He
just was screaming and throwing rocks and logs,

615
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.760
and I happened to you, not
happened to me. Interesting. The

616
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:52.559
reason my always my question to those
people is with respect, what were you

617
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.119
doing? What were you doing that
might have caused him to do that?

618
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.320
Because remember, you're in his house. Did you get to get too close

619
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.639
to their kids? Which I think
the encounter I told you guys about last

620
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.400
time I was on when I was
on the trail and got the tingleys,

621
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.679
what is that? It was kind
of just electricity. We got too close

622
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.639
and I just sat out loud.
Okay, guys, I think we're too

623
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:25.400
close. We're going back up five
steps back gone. So you know what

624
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.960
were we doing? Were we between
them and a food source? Did missus

625
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.159
Bigfoot say, uh buy Bigfoot,
go out and go down to the to

626
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.880
the creek and grab us some steelhead
trout? Kids are hungry, bring it

627
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:42.320
home for supper tonight. So he's
out, you know, the son's going

628
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.079
down, he's wandering out towards this
creek. Well, in the meantime,

629
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.840
you've gone in and set up on
his on his bank there on his sandbar,

630
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.880
and you're pulling in trout left and
right, and then you get in

631
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.199
your tent. Well, he comes
along. He can't get to the refrigerator

632
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.599
or the grocery store. So he's
upset because you know, you guys are

633
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:06.679
married out there. You know,
if the wife sends you out for groceries

634
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.320
and you come back empty handed,
you're in trouble. So or is he

635
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.639
trying to just get to his food
source. There's a lot of things that

636
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.760
you have to stop and think about. It's not all about us, you

637
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.119
know, it's truly it's it's not
they're out to get us, right,

638
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:28.519
What were we doing that might have
caused this? And when you start looking

639
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.280
at things that way, you start
to change. Your fear level goes down.

640
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:37.639
At least mine has a good bit
because you realize, oh, well,

641
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.159
this is just their way is saying
hey, we're busy right now,

642
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.360
we don't want you around or whatever. Fine, that's fine. You know,

643
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.559
I don't want people in my house
every every hour and every minute.

644
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.840
I want some time to hang out
with my wife. You know, maybe

645
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:59.599
that's just that goes for them.
You know, there's a lot of stuff

646
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:05.639
that that we truly don't understand but
if you if you again open your eyes,

647
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.679
stop thinking with your brain, and
I guess, for lack of a

648
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.519
better term, as all that says, think with your heart. You get

649
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.760
you get more places, and you
get more, you get closer to the

650
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:22.119
answers. Yep, now the answers
are there. There, the answers are

651
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:27.079
there. All you have to do
is be open. I will address fear.

652
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:34.320
Fear is a learned thing. We're
not born with fear. We are

653
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:39.639
taught fear. I was never taught
to fear anything. As a little girl,

654
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:49.880
I interacted with many beings, from
star people to little people, anything

655
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:55.079
that was in the forest or anywhere, you know. I was taught to

656
00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:01.239
be respectful and and talk to them, and I wanted to know who they

657
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:07.159
were and what they were doing.
I was that kid that when you heard

658
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:13.480
something under your bed, I didn't
cover my head up. I leaned over

659
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.199
my bed and looked under to see, you know, what's making that noise

660
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:23.559
down there. So I've never had
a fear. I have a respect and

661
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:30.840
I have no problem talking to anything. You know. Star people, like

662
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.920
I said, have been a part
of my life since I was young,

663
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:44.519
and so many other things. And
we are all related. Everything on this

664
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:52.679
earth and beyond is related in some
fashion or another, and for sure for

665
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:59.920
humans, I mean, you're made
up of all of the things that are

666
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:06.719
here on this earth. And so
if you can get past the fear and

667
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:15.840
something else, what you feed your
mind is the experience that you're going to

668
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.480
have. And that's what I tell
people all the time who talk about,

669
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.360
oh my gosh, they were trying
to get in my house. They were

670
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:29.639
rattling the door. If they wanted
in your house, that door would not

671
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:34.239
stop them, you know. Like
for Terry, he was in his tent,

672
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.400
you know, and he was okay. And that's the way it is.

673
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:42.000
We're in the woods in a tent, which I spend a good part

674
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:47.519
of the year in the woods in
a tent, and that tent's not going

675
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:52.960
to stop anything. But it's a
mind thing. Okay, I really can't

676
00:56:53.199 --> 00:57:00.639
see anything. I can hear something, but as long as I can't see

677
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:07.039
it, then you know, it's
okay. So if you can get past

678
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:15.400
your fear and realize that they have
always been there when you get in the

679
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:20.440
woods, they are there, whether
you see them or not. There's a

680
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:25.519
lot of things that are there.
You just you know, they've found out

681
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:31.679
now that the heart has what our
brain sells, and that when you connect

682
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:38.559
that with your brain and you open
your mind and shift your paradigm, you

683
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:47.719
are more easily able to see things
that maybe before you didn't see. You

684
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:53.000
know, you are making not only
this entire panel just feel really really good

685
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:57.079
right now, but the entire audience
as well. So I want to thank

686
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.119
you for that advice. And I
did you know. I've only been out

687
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:05.519
bigfooting a few times, but one
time I did. I went left the

688
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:09.760
group and I went I took my
shoes off, grounded myself barefoot, and

689
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:16.719
then I just tried to project what
I wanted this just a positive conversation with

690
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:21.679
any bigfoots that may or may not
have been present. I don't know if

691
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.840
there were or not, but that's
we had heard that they were in this

692
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:30.360
area. It was a blackwater nature
reserve in kind of like not too far

693
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.159
from Pensacola, Florida. But anyway, I did try to do exactly what

694
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.800
I heard Terry talk about through you. What I was going to ask you,

695
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:44.280
Arla if I may. And we'll
circle back to the other things in

696
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:50.519
a bit, Nathan, But I
wanted to ask you when was sort of

697
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:55.719
your last interaction and do you are
receiving some sort of a vibration when you're

698
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:10.400
in there, you know, close
in their presence today. There is stuff

699
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:17.719
that goes on in our world every
day and we're either open to it or

700
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:24.679
we're not. You know, Uh, there's a family here. So if

701
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:30.159
I'm out in the woods, I
don't go out there to see them.

702
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:37.440
I go out there because I love
the woods, and I talk to everything,

703
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:44.760
flowers, birds, trees, uh, everything, And so i'm there.

704
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.559
You know, they do things with
me. They forever play pranks on

705
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:58.760
me all the time, and they
are masters at doing that, playing pranks.

706
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:04.679
I sat in stories after story after
story of stuff they've done to me

707
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.000
and other people. You know,
I'm not the only one that has seen

708
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:17.360
them here or pretty much anywhere I've
been, which has been from coast to

709
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:24.119
coast and end of British Columbia,
and we used to have a campa out

710
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:31.800
in Georgia and there were things that
happened there. It's just it's amazing this

711
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:40.119
wonderful world that we're a part of, that so many have separated themselves from

712
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:47.559
all of this. When you don't
have to you really don't. I So

713
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.880
I'm going to pass it to Nathan
because I'm already plotting and planning for Arla

714
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:55.960
Williams and Terry Wendell Part two.
Because there's so we're gonna get it.

715
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.360
There's just too much, you know, but money. Nathan, please go

716
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:09.159
ahead, sir, and then we'll
go to Tim and then Debs. Awesome.

717
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.599
I mean, this conversation has been
just really, really wonderful. I

718
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:19.400
think because people on a on a
deep level, really connect with what what

719
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:24.280
you're saying. I think everybody has
their has this capacity within themselves, but

720
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:30.000
we're kind of We've been born into
a world that has forgotten that for a

721
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:35.440
very long time, and we have
this amnesia, this sort of collective amnesia

722
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:42.920
that humanity hasn't always lived like this, And so I'm curious, you know,

723
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.639
where do you see the journey going
from here for all of us in

724
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.239
humanity, particularly in this day and
age where you know, we do have

725
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.519
a lot of technology and that seems
to be increasing. There are a lot

726
01:01:55.559 --> 01:02:00.199
of folks who you know, are
really tethered to that, and at the

727
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:06.360
same time, we see an emergence
of of of sort of feelings and sensing

728
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.719
of things that you're speaking to.
So do you think we're going to see

729
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:13.199
a blend of these sort of perspectives
going forward? Where do you see us

730
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.679
going from here? And Terry,
I'm gonna start with you on that one.

731
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:25.119
Well, that's that's a good question. And I think if we're if

732
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:31.840
we're going to survive as as human
beings, we need to learn to evolve.

733
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:37.199
Now what does that mean? Does
that mean we we lose our hair

734
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.320
and turn gray and look like the
you know, the star people or whatever.

735
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:45.719
I don't know me, Yeah,
sorry, but we need to change

736
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:52.320
the way we think about things.
You know, one of the things my

737
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.199
wife and I talk about a lot. As a matter of fact, I

738
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.880
don't want to get religious sounding,
but you know, we actually ask when

739
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.719
we say our prayers, we actually
pray please help human beings to learn that

740
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:09.480
we have to stop fighting before it's
too late. You know, we're killing

741
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:15.559
each other over nothing and nothing that
matters anywhere else, you know, so

742
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:22.719
we need to learn to get beyond
what we've been taught. And you know,

743
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.559
the thing about the heart, it's
very poignant that you mentioned that it's

744
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:32.360
back centuries ago the medical community with
you know, what was called the medical

745
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:37.079
community. Back then, centuries ago, thought the heart was the center of

746
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.960
your soul, not your brain.
Your heart, And only in modern times

747
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:49.400
have we changed that that thinking that, oh, the brains where consciousness lives.

748
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:53.119
Well, you know, I'm beginning
to wonder could it be both?

749
01:03:53.880 --> 01:04:00.599
You know, it's it's not an
either or thing. There are there are

750
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:05.320
scientists who have come out with theories
in the medical community. There's not enough

751
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:12.440
stuff in our brains to do all
the things that our brains do for us.

752
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:15.960
We're connected to something we don't understand. You know, where do we

753
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:19.920
go when we sleep at night?
I've always wondered that, you know,

754
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:24.880
when you die, all the near
death experiences you have that you've heard about,

755
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:30.159
what's that? Is that just your
brain it's last gasp? Or is

756
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.719
there really something going on there?
You know, we need to start recognizing

757
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:38.559
that we don't have all the answers, and again we don't even know all

758
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.480
the questions. And I think once
we be a little more honest with ourselves,

759
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:49.360
that'll start the learning process for real. But you know, we can't

760
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.239
keep going like this. This is
this, this is a dead in future

761
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:58.079
and no pun intended. So we've
got to figure out a way to get

762
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:01.360
beyond fear, a way to get
beyond hate, a way to get beyond

763
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:05.400
all this other stuff, and just
realize, you know, guys, we

764
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:13.559
gotta change. We gotta change political
partisanship. Yeah, I agree with you,

765
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.599
Terry and Arlae. I'm one of
those who goes into the woods and

766
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:25.519
speaks to the woods and the animals
and says hello to everything. And everything

767
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:30.039
you said there resonates with my experience
in the woods every time I go,

768
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:38.079
which is basically every weekend. But
let me go to police Tim and then

769
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:42.679
deb so that they can get their
angle on what they'd like to asking to

770
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.880
whom. Oh yeah, well,
I was wondering, Terry, what's the

771
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:59.480
squatchiest place or places you've ever experienced? Ah, gosh, that's a I

772
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.559
do a lot in the National Forest. Oh yes, that's just down the

773
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:10.360
road from me. Strange things happened
in the UI. That was my very

774
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:15.480
first official bigfoot outing. When I'm
back, I had no clue what was

775
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:16.880
going on, and I got hooked
up with a couple of people who said,

776
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.760
yeah, he doesn't look like he's
an ex murderer. Let's bring him

777
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.639
out. And you know, well, we'll go out in the woods.

778
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.960
My very first outing in Ui,
I had a rock thrown at me or

779
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.039
not I'm sorry, not at me. We had a rock thrown into camp

780
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.880
and this is that rock. I
can carry that with me to this day.

781
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:41.599
We recovered it. The guys that
I was with had thermal gear and

782
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.400
we actually have a video. It's
on their side. I can't show it

783
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.880
because I don't have permission and I
didn't ask tonight, so I can't show

784
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:53.320
it. But they actually caught the
rock being thrown as it arced across in

785
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:58.840
front of the campra and because it
had been held and this was like,

786
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:00.920
you know, two in them during
one point thirty two in the morning,

787
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:08.360
because it had been held by something. It was hot. It was like

788
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.079
it had been held in a fist
or something. Wow, you could see

789
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.320
it. It stuck out like a
sore thumb on the on the thermal stuff.

790
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.280
And they were able to walk in
the other one guy walked in the

791
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:23.920
other guy and picked up this rock
and they gave it to me in honor

792
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:27.800
of my first ever going out.
It's rare now that I go out in

793
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.519
the woods that I don't have a
rock or something thrown my way when we

794
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:36.039
were back up the story that I
told you guys last time about the eyes

795
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:41.519
and stuff on the trail in the
middle of the night. You know this

796
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.000
this past time we went back to
that same festival. This year, it

797
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.119
was pouring down rain, so we
really didn't get out in the woods and

798
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:56.639
we had we had rocks just pelting
that we were up in a cabin that's

799
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.199
just way up in the woods.
I mean, it's it's in the South

800
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:01.960
Carolina woods, up in the mountains. The festival people had put us up

801
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:08.000
there, and it's an area that
they didn't tell us initially, but it

802
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:15.320
was famous for sightings and encounters,
and you know, we knew that there

803
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.760
was something there from the last trip. Michael Michael Cook and I had both

804
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:23.159
experienced it out in the woods together, and this pastime we went out.

805
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.560
We didn't go because it was poured
down rain. We just sat on the

806
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:31.640
on the big front porch on the
cabin and we had rocks thrown on the

807
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:39.399
roof. We had rocks thrown on
the shed building next to us. I

808
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:42.600
mean, there was one I was
saying earlier it was like a john It

809
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:48.720
was like a Gihn bottom drum.
Solo just and I would just laugh and

810
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:51.439
like, oh, guys, this
is so great. We're glad you're here.

811
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.199
We'll stay over here. We won't
come over there and bother you.

812
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.720
They were on the other side.
We couldn't see them as was adjacent to

813
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:01.159
the forest, and so they were
just you know, we were getting rocks,

814
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.079
just being butting bean, butting bean, ban bean, and then it

815
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.359
would stop and okay, that was
great, guys, can you do it

816
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:12.039
again? Getting ban ban ban bean? Now, in fairness, the wind

817
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.960
was blowing. The next morning,
I got up, walked around over there

818
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.279
and there were a couple of trees
that were over this this building, the

819
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:25.800
shed. There were none over the
roof where we were. But in fairness,

820
01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:29.880
I went out and looked, and
you know, expected to find a

821
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:34.319
bunch of limbs down and stuff.
Nothing. I grabbed the hand of acorns

822
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:38.760
that were up there, thinking,
okay, let me chuck some of these

823
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.000
up on the roof and see if
it makes the same sound nowhere close.

824
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:50.079
So you tell me, you know, it's it's just it's stuff like that.

825
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:56.640
But I would say you, Warri
is probably there's stuff in Yari that

826
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:04.039
it's I've seen lights, I've seen. Yeah, I don't know what that

827
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:08.960
would be one. The other one
is the book that I flashed up about

828
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:14.039
the meadow. I can't tell you
where that is, Terry, When is

829
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.199
this nda? Is it twenty five
years? The ninja guys will come after

830
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.800
me, you don't. You don't
know who so many people are I do.

831
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.720
I gave my word, so I
can't do that an NBA with them,

832
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:30.600
So I've got to honor my word. But that place you talked about,

833
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.279
skin walker, this place is a
skin Walker of the southeast brother.

834
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:38.960
The only thing that has not shown
up there to date is the lock Ness

835
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.840
Monster. And there is a swampy
area way. Oh yeah, there's a

836
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:47.720
lake Lake Ayden Lake. I think
it is. No, it's it's just

837
01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:50.680
you know, again, I can't
tell you this was not in the war.

838
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:58.279
I can't tell you where this is. Places were probably probably the squatchiest

839
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:03.560
areas that that that I can that
I've been involved with. And again,

840
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:10.680
the fright part is going away once
you realize what's going on. You know,

841
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:12.920
I still get I still do get
a little creeped out in the dark

842
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:16.399
because you can't see. Yeah,
you know, we we are sensory,

843
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:21.520
sensory beings. You know, we
are used to seeing things, Terry.

844
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:25.640
That's what That's what we have Arla
for. I'm not gonna go seet all

845
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.279
this money on mvgs when I can
just hold Arla's hand, have her lead

846
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.520
me into the forest. You know, when I got poked in the shoulder

847
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:38.159
when I was with Arla down in
Georgia, she took off, She took

848
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.520
off walking. She she has this
Arla phrase that I've learned to mean,

849
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.479
uh, I think we're gonna have
company. But she'll just say I think

850
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:49.600
I'm gonna take a walk, and
I know what that means. We got

851
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:53.880
company. So I heard you when
she said that, I said, well,

852
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.479
can I come with you? And
she said sure. Now I don't

853
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.479
know if it was just she knew
where she was going and I dumb luck.

854
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.800
I don't know, but she took
off walking like she had built in

855
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:10.359
thermal flear anything you could think of. I'm walking behind her, trying to

856
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.760
keep up and not step on a
root ball or step in a chuck hole,

857
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.760
and and you know nothing, and
man, she's just making a beeline

858
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:23.760
right through the woods. No flashlights, no flashlights, nor like no nothing.

859
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:29.760
Can you would you confirm or deny
that you have the glowing eyes exactly

860
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:39.920
like sasquatch has. Well, I
don't know nobody's ever photographed that or not,

861
01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:45.560
but I don't know. I mean
logically, if you're in the dark

862
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:53.880
for a certain period of time,
you can start seeing the out you know,

863
01:12:54.039 --> 01:13:00.600
shadows or or other things. Like
I've been in the weod ever since

864
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.199
I was little. I'd walk in
the woods at night, and like Terry

865
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:11.880
said, sometimes I just get up
from the fire or whatever, and you

866
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:16.840
know, go for a walk,
and yeah, a lot of times they're

867
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:21.920
there. Sometimes you know they're not, or I just don't perceive that they're

868
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:26.800
there, or they just don't let
me know, you know that they're there.

869
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.920
And in the beginning, there was
a lot of researchers that wanted to

870
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:36.600
take me too, and I just
told them, hey, I'm not big

871
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:43.800
footbait, so you know, I
can't sure you that anything will happen.

872
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:50.720
I'm not in charge. They are, And everything that has happened when someone

873
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:58.439
was with me was not something I
ask for, you know, in the

874
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.960
case with Stuart uh that was totally
directed by them. I just you know,

875
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:11.720
did what I was asked to do. So Uh, yeah, that's

876
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.039
cool to walk in the woods at
night. It is, man, it

877
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:20.520
is. I'm learning that you leave
the million candlewat flashlights and search lights at

878
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:24.840
home. Okay, Terry, I
have a red head lamp. Is that

879
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.159
okay? Can I have myne I
mean, yeah, that's that's ain.

880
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:30.840
But but don't what if was not
there? What are we gonna do?

881
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.680
Don't don't go out with the with
the billion candlewat candle power. You know.

882
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:39.600
Number one, you kill your night
vision doing that till your name it

883
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:43.399
takes thirty or forty minutes to get
that back. And number two, you

884
01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:46.520
run off any of the any of
the animal life there, the standard animal

885
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.560
life, let alone bigfoot. You
know, just just leave us stuff at

886
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:57.680
home. Yep. I have thirteen
years of my Air Force career using night

887
01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:02.399
vision goggles, like two thousand hours
worth, so I'm very familiar with being

888
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:06.359
able to amplify your night vision just
like Arla said, or destroying your night

889
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:11.840
vision and having like discipline in the
whole nine yards. So I have great

890
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.600
appreciation for what you both have said. Debs. Let's go to you and

891
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.880
then we'll probably have a last round, yes, ma'am. Okay, So

892
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:24.079
this is gonna be a question for
Arla. You mentioned that you were not

893
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.359
afraid when you looked under the bed. Well, I had a personal,

894
01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:31.439
very strange experience then. I couldn't
tell you why. But when I was

895
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:36.159
very little, I told people that
there was something under my bed and that

896
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:42.239
it was gnomes or something like gnomes, and I would jump into my bed.

897
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.520
And that is not something that you
like, Like, I don't understand

898
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.439
why children think something's in their room
or under their bed, because that's not

899
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:57.319
something parents tell their kids generally.
It has been used culturally, of course,

900
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.239
like to scare kids away from going
to the water so they don't drown

901
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.760
and things like that, but generally, like I never told my kids there

902
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:08.359
was anything under the bed or anything. So, so what is going on

903
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:13.359
with that? Like why are we
Why are children having these experiences where they

904
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:17.479
think something's in their room or under
their bed. Children are so perceptive,

905
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:23.920
And I always tell people, and
I talk a lot about if we come

906
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:29.079
to this with the mind of a
child, if you're out in the woods

907
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:36.960
and you bring that child mind back, it's a mind of wonder of everything.

908
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:43.960
If you've not been taught fear,
which I wasn't taught fear, so

909
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:50.840
you know, kids just totally open
up. I've got grandkids that you know,

910
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:58.039
they're they're like me, and that
they are so open to seeing things.

911
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:03.920
I've got a one granddaughter who was
open from the time she was little

912
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:09.159
and would say things and you know, you would look at her. Where'd

913
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:13.079
you get that at? You know? And how do you know that?

914
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:20.399
So it's all about, you know, being open, and children are at

915
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:27.720
some point that begins to change.
If we have parents who tell us you

916
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.319
can't think that that's not real,
you're just imagining that. And if you

917
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:39.119
can leave all of that stuff out
of it and just listen to the child

918
01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:45.880
and what they're telling you, then
so much of what they see is valid

919
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.479
and true. You know. Like
I said, I was taught not to

920
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:58.960
be afraid of anything, and I
talked to everything. Everything's a part of

921
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:03.760
me and I'm a part of everything, and all of us are. And

922
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:09.880
so you know, how you're brought
up is a big deal, and then

923
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:15.000
what you feed your mind is a
big deal too, And I want to

924
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:20.600
feel I wanted to follow up for
those who are curious about this. I

925
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:25.359
was told, of course that there
was nothing there, but I continue to

926
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:30.439
jump to get into my bed for
like two years, so I don't I

927
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.479
don't know what was going on.
I don't remember, but I do know

928
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:38.680
that it was very young and I
was scared. Yeah, yeah, and

929
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:45.680
I can you know, I can
understand that too if you don't have a

930
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:49.479
reference for what's going on, and
that's what happens, you know, with

931
01:18:49.640 --> 01:19:00.000
people and being afraid of the Bigfoot, is they don't have a reference from

932
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.039
my point of view, they have
a reference from what they've been told.

933
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:12.279
So somewhere along the line, you
were probably either read a story or told

934
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:17.720
something you know, or didn't have
someone to talk to. You know,

935
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:23.800
I had my grandmother. I could
say anything to you. And that's where

936
01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:29.560
we have to be and be supportive
of what people are saying, even adults.

937
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:33.359
You know, I'm not gonna tell
anybody you didn't see that, because

938
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:40.279
that's I can't do that and I
wouldn't do it either. But I love

939
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:46.680
that story. Thank you for sharing
that. The only thing under my bed

940
01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:49.079
was lint. I mean, I
was going to tell you that story,

941
01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:53.840
but I didn't think they're just going
to resonate. But there certainly was a

942
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:58.319
lot of lint and cat hair well, there wasn't cat hair undermine, but

943
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:03.800
I'm sure there was and a lot
of that I had. I'm sure there

944
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:11.159
were rocks and flowers and sticks and
you know all that stuff too. So

945
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:17.439
but yeah, it's just so amazing. We're definitely gonna have we are definitely.

946
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:23.439
We're requesting right now on air to
have Arla and Terry too. Don't

947
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.840
feel any pressure to accept. Uh, And then I'm good. I'm good.

948
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:29.760
I'll tell you what. Can I
share something with you? Real fast?

949
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.880
There's a little teaser for round two? Yeah, about nine minutes left,

950
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:36.119
So okay, I'm gonna just flash
an image up on the screen.

951
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:44.399
Can you guys see that? That
is one of Arla's companions that lives on

952
01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.439
her farm. Now, this was
Arli. You please feel free to jump

953
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:49.479
in tell the story, but this
was this was an older print. It

954
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:53.279
had been raining a little bit by
the time I got there. But tell

955
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.520
them where that was in relation to
where I stayed when I came to visit

956
01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:03.159
you. Oh, not very far? Thirty odd into the woods? Yeah,

957
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:09.920
maybe maybe that far. This is
the al caller's footprint. Wow,

958
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:18.039
he is the father of the family
that's here. This is the one that

959
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:26.920
did the al cal in Stuart Taylor's
audio where he's watching the family. But

960
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:35.000
and through the years, ol Caller
has grown some too. But I mean

961
01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:43.000
it's a footprint. It's like my
feetprint are everywhere, you know, and

962
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:47.520
and there's our two. I found
a footprint today. I know whose it

963
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:54.159
was because I'm in these woods,
like I said, every day, and

964
01:21:55.399 --> 01:22:00.720
I've watched some of the hairy kids
footprints change. I got one I call

965
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:06.199
Blue, and I call him Blue
big toe because in his prince his toes

966
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:15.399
a little bigger on the others.
So they're my neighbors. They live in

967
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:20.880
the woods here, and uh,
I interact with them sometimes and sometimes they

968
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:27.319
don't. Okay, Apparently Hararah is
demanding that she does the rest of the

969
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:30.479
show with me, and I don't. I'm not in a position to get

970
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:33.319
clawed in the back, which is
what she will do if I try to

971
01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:40.119
get her off. Haarah, welcome
to the show, your second straight episode

972
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:44.279
on CAB. So let's go to
money, Nathan. So let's make this

973
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:48.720
sort of a lightning round. I
have I have another final question as well,

974
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:55.039
but let's go to money Nathan.
Please, all right, quick question,

975
01:22:56.079 --> 01:22:59.880
what what's the what the age limit
is here on these on these being

976
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.640
you know, what's what's the how
do they live? Well, I'll call

977
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:15.199
her from what I understand is like
in his fifties, you know, late

978
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.079
fifties. And there's a mom Mama. I call her mama because when she

979
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:28.039
sings to the babies, she would
say mom, momma. And then there

980
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:32.560
is Meridia, who is oldest daughter. Now you know I have names for

981
01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:38.399
them. Uh it may or may
not be their name. And then there's

982
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:45.159
Indigo, who has been a part
of my physical life for many many years.

983
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:51.680
His the younger brother Blue. And
then uh, there's one I call

984
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:59.279
baby Girls. She's she's the youngest. She's now right at thirteen. So

985
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:12.359
that span within there. The oldest
of the children is in her twenties and

986
01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:17.279
the others are it's kind of like
an average of five years or four or

987
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:24.640
five years in between in between the
kids. You know, I've seen all

988
01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:33.119
of them. Stuart saw them.
Many other people have seen them and interacted

989
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:41.520
with them. Like I said,
they choose what it is they do and

990
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:45.119
I have no control. Right,
that's amazing, Terry. What do you

991
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:48.079
think is the uprage limit? Terry? Do you have there as stories about

992
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:51.760
that. I have no clue.
Truly, Alla would know would know better

993
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:56.520
about that than I would. I
have heard some people say, you know,

994
01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.920
human life spans. I've heard other
people say one hundred, one hundred

995
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:04.039
fifty years. I truly have no
clue. I know that Arla has been

996
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:10.600
interacting with this particular clan for a
good while, so you know that's That's

997
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:15.399
really truly the only reference that I
have for anything like that, And truly

998
01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:18.680
I'm I'm open to anything at this
point, I don't know. That's one

999
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:23.399
of the reasons that I got into
this is I got questions and I want

1000
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:28.000
to know what's going on. I
want to learn love it. Tim,

1001
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:31.199
let's get you a lightning question here. Yeah, Arle and Terry, how

1002
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:36.199
do you weed out potential hoaxes?
And why do you think people do hoax

1003
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:45.680
attention? They attention in In my
opinion, and this is my opinion,

1004
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:56.560
you're looking for something that's about you, not about what you're what you're talking

1005
01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:01.439
about for whatever reason, it's an
you go driven thing. Somebody else saw

1006
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:06.520
something, So now for me to
validate myself, I have to see something.

1007
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.640
I think others are just spite or
meanness or Hey, I want to

1008
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:16.800
get one over on you guys.
You know, I don't know it just

1009
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:21.359
it baffles me why you would do
something like that. A lot of times

1010
01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.880
I take cameras out with me when
I go. When I first started,

1011
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:28.880
I thought, oh gosh, yeah, I'm going to go out and get

1012
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.439
a get video of bigfoot because I
do video stuff, and you know,

1013
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:36.159
that's that's what I do. And
yeah, right, go out and try

1014
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:40.359
and take a picture of a squirrel
in your yard. It runs up a

1015
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:44.560
tree, they'll go to the other
side. So I don't post a lot

1016
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:45.760
of stuff. I don't try to
post a lot of stuff. I don't

1017
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.880
need to post a lot of stuff. I'm not trying to prove anything to

1018
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:53.720
anybody out there. I'm trying to
prove something to me. I want to

1019
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:56.840
know what's going on. So when
I film stuff out in the woods,

1020
01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:01.920
it's basically like a vlog or a
video diary, so that when I come

1021
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:08.039
back, I've got a record of
things exactly as it happened, so I

1022
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:12.960
don't change the story. You know, stuff doesn't creep in. Human beings

1023
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.880
can be are terrible data recorders.
We just don't do well with that.

1024
01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:19.479
Well, have you ever gotten a
sense somebody is messing with you or trying

1025
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:24.319
to hoax you, or do you
keep your outings pretty private for that reason?

1026
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:26.840
I don't. I don't talk about
a lot about where I'm going.

1027
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:30.720
I will tell you, you know, the general vicinity. And yes,

1028
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:34.239
there are some people in the Uori
that that I believe have hoaxed some things.

1029
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:40.760
That's that's between them and whoever.
I'm not gonna call anybody out because

1030
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:45.399
who am I? You know,
I mean, cauz Agna, it's pretty

1031
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.119
great. I don't care what anybody
says. Yeah, oh listen, I've

1032
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:56.239
can't there that was That was straight
up. He didn't even know what he

1033
01:27:56.399 --> 01:28:00.279
got. You know. The camera
that he was using was probably I mean,

1034
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:03.439
it was the size of heck a
desk almost. You know, there's

1035
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:08.560
nothing like we have now, So
you know, I don't know. There's

1036
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.479
times when I look at the Patterson
Gimlan film and go, that's real.

1037
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:18.800
There's other times I look at it. Who am I to judge? I'll

1038
01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:23.600
tell you about It's what I've cleaned, what I've run into, and my

1039
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:27.920
experiences. So the whole hoaxing thing, you know, I don't. I

1040
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:33.079
don't slow down too much for it. Yeah, yeah, it. You

1041
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:41.800
know, Rick Dyer was the quint
essential uh hoakser And there were people jumping

1042
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:45.199
on the bandwagon all the time with
no, he's not, he's not,

1043
01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:50.079
he's not. I had a personal
little interaction with Rick Dyer, uh several

1044
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:59.399
years ago. But uh, it's
the nature of the human to do uh

1045
01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:04.680
this kind kind of thing, and
it is. It's about a lot about

1046
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:13.039
ego because you have something happening and
you get all of these people coming and

1047
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:15.319
going, oh wow, that's so
cool, you know all of this,

1048
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:19.880
but then nothing else happens. So
what do you do? Well, you

1049
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.600
got to make something happen so that
you can get that. You know,

1050
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:33.880
I've seen people in this lose their
livelihood, lose their family, literally lose

1051
01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:43.960
themselves because they were so intent on
proving and being somebody, when the truth

1052
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:48.199
is we're already all already somebody.
We don't need to have to prove,

1053
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:54.720
you know that to anything. One
thing I've said from the beginning, you

1054
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:59.520
think you're going out to learn about
the Bigfoot, And if you open your

1055
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:03.520
heart, in your mind and shift
your paradigm, yes you will learn some

1056
01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:12.239
things about them, but you're going
to learn more about who you are,

1057
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:20.439
amen, than you're ever gonna learn
about them. That's the important thing we

1058
01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:28.479
learn about who we are. CAV
loves you, Arla, for these words

1059
01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:33.359
of wisdom that come from the heart
are not contrived and are valuable light life

1060
01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:41.600
lessons outside of any pursuit of Bigfoot. That aside, so uh, Tim's

1061
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.399
quick hitter actually had three follow upstebs. Well, wait a minute before we

1062
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:51.680
before we even do that in Mississippi's
own Mounts, before we do that.

1063
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:57.840
The voices that you are hearing is
the legendary Arla Williams from Oklahoma, her

1064
01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:02.079
research colleague and dear friend Terry Windell
from Rockhill, Bigfoot who I still hope

1065
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:04.800
to go to the into the woods
with. And guess what, I live

1066
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:11.399
a lot closer now because I'm in
Georgia. Yes, of course, that

1067
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:15.119
is the host of all things unexplained, Doctor Tim Mounts, the former well

1068
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:18.920
I said, former basketball coach,
current basketball coach, and former player,

1069
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:24.680
uh, and the lovely Debs and
my man Money Nathan. I'll give us

1070
01:31:24.760 --> 01:31:29.920
a like and a subscribe, help
us out. And boy, we've got

1071
01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:34.159
a big announcement coming up for you
about calling all beings in short order.

1072
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:40.399
I'll let you know what that is. So Debs, please with your last

1073
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:42.600
one. I'll get a last one, and then we'll get these guys out

1074
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:46.479
of here so the Arla can get
some cama meal. T I kee't going

1075
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:54.319
back to something Terry said earlier about
us realizing that we need to stop hurting

1076
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:58.039
each other as humans, and it
kind of relates to what Arla was just

1077
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.560
saying. When you study the paranormal
or you know, what I consider just

1078
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:09.319
normal right nature, you learn a
lot about humanity and I don't know,

1079
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:14.359
like there's this sense of a lot
of people are doing this wrong, something's

1080
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:17.600
very wrong with Like I'm okay with
AI and technology, that's not the problem,

1081
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.600
but how we treat each other.
Like, for me, it just

1082
01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:28.119
seems outdated for people to continue to
hurt each other. It just feels wrong.

1083
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:32.520
So why do you think that is
that we have this sense of need

1084
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:38.640
for peace that is just ever increasing. It's not part of actual human nature

1085
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:45.720
or the planet's nature, but it's
something that we keep bringing forward. Well,

1086
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:56.560
peace is something everybody wants, but
not everybody is willing to release things

1087
01:32:56.640 --> 01:33:00.920
that are going to bring you peace. You know, every day I ask

1088
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:11.359
that I am peace, love,
compassion, and joy. And I always

1089
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:15.840
tell people be kind to each other. Just be kind to each other.

1090
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:21.520
Think how wonderful it would be,
how we would raise the vibrations of this

1091
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:28.359
world if we were just kind to
each other. And you know, my

1092
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:32.359
grandmother always told us kids, don't
act ugly, and what she meant by

1093
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:40.800
that was don't do things that are
disrespectful because it doesn't make you look very

1094
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:47.680
good. And I never ever want
to act ugly to anyone, no matter

1095
01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:54.880
what they say to me. I'm
just I'm not going to go there because

1096
01:33:55.039 --> 01:34:01.319
I see our world opening up being
kind to each other. Oh my gosh.

1097
01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:05.960
Facebook is so much different now than
it was when I came into this

1098
01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:15.000
several years ago. I see so
much more positive and from people that you

1099
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.079
know, you go, wait a
minute. It was just not very long

1100
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:24.560
ago that they were ready to go
over to some other country and kick somebody's

1101
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:29.399
butt, you know, And now
it's we need to figure out how not

1102
01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:33.680
to do this. You know,
we need to see each other as a

1103
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:43.279
relative. Yeah, I agree completely. My wife is a yoga instructor and

1104
01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:50.079
the way she closes all of her
yoga classes is, may you be happy,

1105
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:55.680
May you be healthy, May you
know great peace, and may you

1106
01:34:55.720 --> 01:35:01.239
know great love. And that has
really stuck with me. She She says

1107
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:06.119
that every time after they are done, and really and truly, you know,

1108
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:10.439
we can't keep going like this.
We can, but we're gonna end

1109
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:14.359
up at the end, and I
don't want it to be the end.

1110
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:20.159
So we got to figure out some
way to stop fighting over stuff that does

1111
01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:28.439
not matter. You know that we
we think we Europeans talk about owning the

1112
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.159
land. We don't own the land. Nobody owns the land. The land

1113
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:36.119
owns us. You know, we're
just taking care of it. We're borrowing

1114
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:41.119
it from our from our grandchildren.
I think is one of the Native American

1115
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:47.279
proverbs. So we got to figure
out number one, what ticks us off?

1116
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:51.520
Number two why it ticks us off? And number three, how can

1117
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:56.560
we stop getting ticked off? Just
let it go? Let stuff go.

1118
01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:01.279
That's one thing that I have made
it a point to work on every day.

1119
01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:05.119
Even if I if I'm by myself
and somebody pulls out in front of

1120
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:09.680
me in traffic and this is this
is trivial stuff. But somebody pulls out

1121
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:12.039
in front of me in traffic,
and I go, oh my God,

1122
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:15.680
and then you stop and think,
in one hundred years, what's that going

1123
01:36:15.760 --> 01:36:19.520
to matter. Let it go in
five minutes, Yeah, five minutes.

1124
01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:27.119
Let it go. You'll live a
much happier life and that will be reflected

1125
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:31.920
in your continence, when your countenance, I should say continence countenance whenever you're

1126
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:39.800
whenever you're in public, and you
know, just let stuff go. That

1127
01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:46.079
doesn't matter. You know, it's
I had someone, uh, pulling out

1128
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:51.319
onto a busy roadway going to work
a couple of week week or so ago,

1129
01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:58.640
and the woman who had to break
a little bit because I was really

1130
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:03.079
trying to accelerate to slow down traffic
and was flipping me the bird and honking

1131
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:05.840
the horn, and of course the
light was maybe a fourth of a mile

1132
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:10.119
away and she was sitting right next
to me at the light. So it's

1133
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:15.560
Metro Atlanta. It doesn't matter how
fast you go, Atta, you're in

1134
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.640
good shape. Well yeah, Well
the thing is is, like you know

1135
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:21.079
in that you know the Marietta area, You're just going to the next traffic

1136
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:25.359
light. Yep. So I mean
it does not matter. You're not you

1137
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.600
Yeah, you can't go straight to
where you're going. You're gonna be at

1138
01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:32.319
that next traffic light, no matter
how fast you go anyway. Uh.

1139
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:40.199
Man, So I wanted to ask
Arla one final bigfoot question. Uh,

1140
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:47.439
just so that the bigfoot community does
not slay us like dragons. Arla make

1141
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:51.720
this a quick hitter, the two
parter. But the first part is what

1142
01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.680
is a safe distance? What do
you consider a safe distance? When you're

1143
01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:00.560
in there present? Do you try
to keep a certain distance? No,

1144
01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:09.960
I've been touched many times. Yeah, literally touched. I had a grandfather

1145
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:16.199
walk up to my tent and stick
his hand inside the tent and lay his

1146
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:21.760
hand across my stomach. Wow.
I've been touched by the kids many times.

1147
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:28.720
I it's all about respect, you
know, why are you you know?

1148
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:30.560
Up here people say, oh my
gosh, don't look them in the

1149
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:34.800
eyes. If you respect somebody,
you're gonna look them in the eye.

1150
01:38:35.359 --> 01:38:41.800
You're not gonna look away. These
are not animals that you're challenging. This

1151
01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:49.000
is somebody many people want to know
and to know about. So it's just

1152
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:57.319
simple, be respectful. I'm sorry, I mean to interrupt you. The

1153
01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:02.439
feeling running through you when you're in
their presence, and what is it different

1154
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:06.680
than when you're in the presence of
another human in terms of the energy or

1155
01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:16.680
the vibe the well, even humans
have their own vibe. And there are

1156
01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:20.560
a lot of humans that I might
be up next to that I might move

1157
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:29.319
away from. Most of the time. Now I just have a happy feeling

1158
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:35.119
that they're around, or they're close, or you know whatever. There are

1159
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:43.760
times when energetically, yes, you
really feel it. I had a man

1160
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:49.640
tell me one night while we were
down in the Commishe Mountains, and when

1161
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:53.720
I walked up on the other side
of a cedar tree and it was quite

1162
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:58.439
tall, and I was just standing
there and I said something to him like

1163
01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:03.239
I would anything and that the guy
said, man, you got of steel.

1164
01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:10.399
I said, no, I don't. I'm just respectful. And so

1165
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:17.359
it's number one, be respectful,
Be respectful to yourself. You know as

1166
01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:24.520
well. I've felt their energy when
it would nearly knock you off your feet.

1167
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:30.520
I felt their energy when all I
did was laughing, giggle, and

1168
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:33.680
I could move back away from them
and I wouldn't laugh and giggle. I

1169
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:42.359
could go closer and I just start
laughing and giggling. So it's whatever you

1170
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:48.199
reflect gets reflected back to you.
You know. During my dating life,

1171
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:51.159
some women would giggle when I would
get closer back. I don't know if

1172
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:56.439
that's the same. Hey, now, not important, not important. So

1173
01:40:56.680 --> 01:41:00.560
let's go with kabby goodbyes, because
you know we're just gonna have to save

1174
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:03.880
everything else for a part too.
Uh, Tim, Uh, first you

1175
01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:10.359
please with Kabby goodbyes. YEP.
One thing I read about Terry he said,

1176
01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:14.840
you know, also you gotta have
respect when you go out in the

1177
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:17.840
woods you find yourself and my goodbyes. I can really relate to this because

1178
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:20.760
I just got back from Roswell,
New Mexico. So I think it's the

1179
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:25.880
same with UFOs, with paranormal If
you just get off your screens, head

1180
01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:29.319
out somewhere, you know, next
thing you know, you might find yourself

1181
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.439
at a UFO crash site and you
didn't even know what was gonna happen.

1182
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:36.039
So get out there, look for
the truth that you were supposed to be

1183
01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:42.239
saying goodbye and thank you. There
wasn't a goodbye in there, and you're

1184
01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:45.920
welcome. I love I love coaching, doctor Bounces. If I was just

1185
01:41:46.039 --> 01:41:48.640
coach, I'd be like, you're
on, Tim, You're on the bench

1186
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:53.399
until you can follow directions, sit
on the end of the bench and grab

1187
01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:59.119
the gatorade bottle. It was an
interpretive goodbye. Okay, I'm sorry Nietzschee

1188
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:04.039
or whatever it was last time,
go ahead, And I should have asked

1189
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:08.600
him to look for those three aliens
I left there by accident when I was

1190
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:13.359
there there, seriously three aliens that
I bought from my kids left them there.

1191
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.319
Anyway, try to replace them at
least for you. Yeah, it

1192
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:23.359
was very sad, So I very
much appreciate you coming back to talk to

1193
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:27.439
us, Terry, and thank you
for coming Arla. It was a pleasure

1194
01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:30.920
to meet you and to also share
the comic experience of things being under the

1195
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:35.600
bed. I'm so glad I'm not
alone with that, and which which truly

1196
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:41.319
appreciate you comment and sharing your experiences
with us. So thank you both for

1197
01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:45.600
coming today. Quite welcome. It's
an honor. Yeah, it's been a

1198
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:50.039
true pleasure. You guys have been
a delight. Welcome back anytime, Terry

1199
01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:53.840
and Arla. I hope you found
another home here with us at Calling.

1200
01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:58.279
All beings and of course all the
listeners and folks in the chat really appreciate

1201
01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:00.439
you guys being here as well.
It's just been a really great conversation and

1202
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:05.680
it's it warms my heart to hear
where the conversation is going with this topic,

1203
01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:09.640
and it just because me hope for
the future. So thanks very much

1204
01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:15.840
for well that you do. No
problem. Thank you. I'm really sorry

1205
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:19.560
that you guys had to watch my
cat battling. I've never had to battle

1206
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:24.119
with her in front of the microphone
except last week and this week. And

1207
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:28.880
I think it's because my wife is
sleeping and she let Harah in the room

1208
01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:33.600
to make me get off air.
Luckily she's behaving right now so I can

1209
01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:43.720
say goodbye. Boy. You know
it's you guys are just as amazing.

1210
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:49.119
You know, a pair of folks, just beautiful souls that as we've ever

1211
01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:54.159
had on the show, and we've
had some, you know, souls that

1212
01:43:54.199 --> 01:44:00.439
are like you, but you guys
remind us of those people who come on

1213
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:05.960
here and inspire us to continue doing
this. So thank you from the bottom

1214
01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:11.840
of my heart for sharing your time
to come on Cab and have a discussion.

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It's not a traditional interview, as
you can tell, it's very conversational

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in nature, but next time I
hope to delve deeper into how you discovered,

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how you two became friends. Like
the first meeting and then some more

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of your experiences next time. So
but thank you so very much, Arla

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Williams and Terry Windell. I really
really appreciate it anytime. And that's that's

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a story that's pretty interesting too as
mine and all his first meeting. We'll

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slave that for part two, Yes
we will. I will find a place

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on the calendar to have you back
because I think the response we're getting as

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everybody loved you as much as we
did. Julie, thank you so much

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for making it in tonight. I
don't I don't know how you do it,

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but I'll be in touch with you
about the what the big news is

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and on behalf of Arla and Terry
and Nathan and Debs and of course doctor

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Tim Mounts, who will come off
the bench in this next quarter. This

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is DJ saying peace out, one
love. We'll see you down the road.

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And we always wonder what's up around
the Bend.