WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.639 Breaking down the ball the exes and oh it's Steve Lavera and Jacin Salmaz. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:13.160 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.239 back to my the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.800 He's Jaginsaus. Now with us from breaking news is Ryan. This is 5 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:27.199 I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I started 6 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.519 a little right now starts a little bit of book news with u of A. 7 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:37.240 The Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty four was announced. I'll run 8 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.520 down the names real quick. You got Kinsey Feller on a softball, frequent 9 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:48.039 eye on the ball, guess Kenzie Feiber and nine to twenty fourteen andre Iguidella, 10 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:53.520 Jay's favorite player. We'll get to that. We'll get that, Louis 11 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.960 l Lange. I do apologize by think you got it right if I mispronounced 12 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:03.640 any names. When the all time great cross country track star field track and 13 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.120 cross country guys yep. Julie Labante, Arizona Track and Field as well, 14 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:14.799 two thousand and nine to fourteen. Doctor Donald Porter, University of Arizona head 15 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:22.959 team physician from eighty nine to two thousand and twenty two. Bob Ralston baseball 16 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.640 from eighty two to eighty four. I think we knew him as Bobby and 17 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.680 I don't know who he is. Bobby Ross early eighties, early eighties. 18 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:34.120 He was a good player infielder nice Nick Ross Arizona Track and Field, oh 19 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:40.200 nine to fourteen, and I jumper Jason Terry men's basketball from ninety five to 20 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:45.280 ninety nine. Also NBA champion with the Evericks. Yeah, go ahead and 21 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.400 speak your mind. Well, look, I'm just I've just never been a 22 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.480 fan of Andrea Gudala. You know, I think he I think his time 23 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.680 in Arizona was kind of again, another one of those guys who I never 24 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.840 felt really was coming to be an Arizona Wildcat. I think he was kind 25 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.120 of very lack of days ago about you know. He was. He was 26 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:08.439 just here to get to the NBA, like some of those other guys, 27 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:13.879 and I never really felt like he wanted to be here. But it's the 28 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:15.560 best place for it, accurate, right, I covered him, so I 29 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.360 followed him. I don't disagree with you on a number of those fronts. 30 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:23.199 A couple of quick stories. He he was the guy before the PAC twelve 31 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:27.199 who was up packed ten at the time, I think on a cell phone 32 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.000 before the game and two after the sophomore year, we all knew he was 33 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.800 leaving to the NBA. We were all trying to get the story whether he 34 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:38.199 was or wasn't. They had the lamee for a game after they came back. 35 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.439 I lost a seat in the hall. They came back and he was 36 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.039 playing in the game, and I went to the game obviously to track him 37 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.360 down, so he knew I was there, and he was kind of trying 38 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.680 to avoid me, and we're in the halls of McHale on the bottom. 39 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.319 He ran into the women's locker room and he stayed there and women, the 40 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.960 women were coming out, and I says, is Andre in there? No, 41 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.280 what are you talking about. I knew he went in there because I 42 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.639 saw him. And that's just kind of the guy. He was a smart 43 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:06.400 dude, heck of a player and all that. But but to your point, 44 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.520 yes, and he was just different. I remember a story coming out 45 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.919 and I think he had been out on a year or two and Arizona was 46 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.159 trying to tout his academic prowess or whatever word you want to use, and 47 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.479 used him as an example and I'm thinking, why would they use him because 48 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.400 he's going to be here two years and he doesn't care. But they used 49 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.120 him, and I think it backfired on him because he left and it was 50 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.639 just you know, he just left after two years. A smart dude though, 51 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.680 very smart. Well he was an academic. Yeah, I'll pack five 52 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.159 academic or I'll pack ten whatever. Very smart and makes a ton of money. 53 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:43.639 He's he's a representative now in the NBA player Rep. I think he 54 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.199 is very bright. Uh, He's made a great player for himself. I 55 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.680 just other than that Missus Lincoln. Yeah, his his his Arizona, his 56 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.719 Arizona stuff is just yeah, And I mean I get you know, he's 57 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.159 got all these NBA championships and his long career in the NBA and stuff like 58 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.960 that. And if that's what they're giving him put him in the Hall of 59 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.360 Fame for then great. But his Arizona career was not Hall of Fame work. 60 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:09.199 And I'll just say that one of the guys I really like he's in 61 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.639 is doctor Porter, Doug dor Reporter man. Fantastic dude. But I talked 62 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.600 to him frequently. Just a just a good guy, a great guy. 63 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:20.560 Great and he'll probably be embarrassed if he hears that I told this story on 64 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.319 the radio. But he had a party at his house and it was just, 65 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.160 I mean a party bash. Yeah. You know, you go there. 66 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.480 There's hundreds of cars in the neighborhood, and there's loud music and stuff. 67 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.839 And we go with my wife and I go to his party and having 68 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.720 a great time. Loud music inside. People are dancing in the living room 69 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.480 and the music is really loud. We go out into the backyard. All 70 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:45.040 of a sudden, we hear like an explosion and smoke starts pouring out of 71 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:50.040 the house and he blew up hysterio. It was so loud, it just 72 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.519 blew Oh god, this is before I had kids, So this was, 73 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:59.839 you know, thirty years ago. His hystereo system blew up in the middle 74 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.959 of the party and people coming out and they're coughing and stuff. Every time 75 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.120 I see him, I said, Doc, you know, getting you stereo 76 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.959 because it was it was hilarious. It was a great and it was a 77 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.600 great party and we had a lot of fun. But it kind of ended 78 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.240 things because he just blew up the stereo and literally blew it up. I 79 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.319 mean, it's like, just like you see in the movies. Eighties. 80 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:25.920 Yeah, yeah, late eighties probably late eighties, maybe early nineties, but 81 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.399 that timeframe. But a great guy, very well, very deserving, was 82 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.000 there a long time and just this guy whiles have a smile on his face. 83 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.759 Right, even after a loss, he was like dang, you know, 84 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.000 but he Yeah, I love that guy, and it's it's great to 85 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.040 see him get in there. I don't think I've ever heard of a party 86 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.240 ending because of the stereo blue Well, I don't think the party actually ended. 87 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.240 Just the dancing ended and everybody just went on the backyard and we were 88 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.360 just hanging out out there. It was very funny. Well, sticking sticking 89 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.839 with the college sports, a little bit of news from Illinois. Ex Illinois 90 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:08.079 star Terrence Shannon Jr. Former basketball player for Illinois, was found not guilty 91 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:14.480 of rape this morning. The charges came from last September while he was visiting 92 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.279 Kansas for a football game. He was he was charged for sexual assault. 93 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:23.240 Right, Illinois took a lot of heat for that. They bought him back, 94 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.360 he was suspended, brought them back on the team. Right, They 95 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.040 were very good with him. Yeah, and a top ten team with him. 96 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.160 And this is it was not that guilty. And you know, and 97 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.720 and and you know, in all fairness, we talked about it when he 98 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.439 got arrested, so we needed to talk about it, you know, when 99 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.560 he was when he was acquitted. So he's acquitted of too sexual assault charges. 100 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.920 Stick a little more news out of college the Big Twelve. This is 101 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.560 just a new new story that popped up today exploring naming rights to title sponsors. 102 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:59.240 I like believe for the league. For the league, it's like they're 103 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.240 it could potentially take the big out of the Big Twelve and replace them with 104 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.879 a sponsors name. Yeah, in the future. A lot of money involved 105 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.800 it. Yeah, you know again you know that we talked about that with 106 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.959 Will Learned. You know you're going to see you're going to see that, 107 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.600 right, But uh, you know, we had I having a long conversation 108 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.480 with you know, some of the guys that I talked to, and they 109 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:23.000 were I'm saying, do you know is this really worth it, you know 110 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.800 for these companies to name these things? And I said, yeah, it 111 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.360 is because you get mentioned all the time. Right. We know, we 112 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:31.079 know the All States Sugar Bowl, we know the Capital One, you know 113 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.800 Orange Bowl, we know the whatever, it's the Verbo Festival. Now you 114 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.120 know those sponsorships mattering. Now, I was involved in naming two Selectric Park. 115 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.000 It's still called two Selectric Park years later, even though it hasn't been 116 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.839 Two Selectric Park for a lot of years, because that's what people remember, 117 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.519 because that's what people remember, and so no, oneder my rates are always 118 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.079 high. Yeah, exactly, so you know, but you know, they 119 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.399 said, well, are you going to call it, Let's say it's the 120 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.120 all The example they've been using is all State. Are you going to call 121 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.319 it the All State twelve Conference. I'm like, if that's the name of 122 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:01.519 the conference you're going to Yeah, are people gonna still call it the Big 123 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.959 twelve? Of course they are. But when you put it in print, 124 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.079 when you put it in a in an ad or whatever, it's going to 125 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.000 be All State or whatever it is. So I don't know if All State 126 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:16.160 is a company that they're actually talking to, or if somebody just use that 127 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.839 as an example. I never remember, But yeah, you know, those 128 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:24.040 things they do matter. If advertising didn't matter, people wouldn't do it, 129 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:28.199 wouldn't advertise. But the one in this article is the CVC Capital Partners. 130 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.120 Yeah, it was one of the sponsors whatever it is. Yeah, and 131 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.679 then and then who you know, A you're gonna name the sec something like 132 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:41.039 that. You know they're gonna find money whatever. Well they have to steve 133 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.360 you know, we talked about that. They have to wherever it comes from. 134 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.120 It's wherever, wherever it comes from. So is this kind of like 135 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.200 the one I covered a while back. It was like they're going to start 136 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.200 adding logos to the field. Well that's a that's a separate one that the 137 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.279 the n c double as given teams the okay to put logos on their fields 138 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.039 and quarts, which they haven't been able to up to now, but they 139 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.759 at least at least that's one thing that the NCAA realizes they've got to go 140 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.080 get some more money, so they've opened the door for them to do that. 141 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.919 Maybe eve putting patches on jerseys and stuff like that like the NBA does. 142 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.440 Now. I just picture these quarts and fields are just gonna be covered 143 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.240 with logos one day. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the boxers when they 144 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.759 had the tattoos on their back. Yeah, that was that's a that's a 145 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.919 funny one. I can't show you mine. I thank you to keep your 146 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.720 shirt on please. I have a blank canvas. I'm thinking. I'm thinking 147 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:48.080 adult expectations or something like that. You don't put Mercedes baby, gather yourself 148 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:58.279 rying. I can't. Last thing I wanted to bring up was NFL the 149 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.840 Talkings and Eagles. We're a couple of teams that run in to review a 150 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:09.360 while back for I guess signing players that they had an improper contact with before 151 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:16.600 the before the free agency period, and the fig the Eagles. The Falcons, 152 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.919 excuse me, they are going to lose one of their draft picks and 153 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:26.960 they're fined for tampering. The Eagles have been cleared of any improper contact. 154 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.080 And this goes back to like when Cousins was signed. He signed that big, 155 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.759 four year, right one hundred million million contracts, but I guess he 156 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:43.480 was talking before the actual the fifty two hour free agent negotiations. Well, 157 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.200 I mean, you can't imagine that deals like that come together as fast as 158 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.480 those do. They had to be some preliminary discussions, right, So I 159 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:52.960 don't know, I'm just kind of dumb, I think a little bit, 160 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.240 But I guess there have to be some rules at some point about all of 161 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.840 that. Yeah, And I don't know if you guys all this or talked 162 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.039 about it already, but they kind of went over Dan Hurley and his decision 163 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.519 with the Lakers, saying that it wasn't a leverage play, that he had 164 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:15.080 already agreed to a new contract with Yukon, which him I would have stayed 165 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.840 a Yukon because he just he just won two national championships. Everyone talks about 166 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.720 money because it itit's big, Yeah, but sometimes it's not about money. 167 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.799 I mean, that's just about where you feel comfortable, what you want to 168 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.840 do. Yeah, like you say those commercials, I'm not here for the 169 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.639 money, because it was like dak Press Presca, It's not here for the 170 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.000 money. Just win the damn game the money stuff. Just win games exactly. 171 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.200 And you know, and I mean and again, when you're talking about 172 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.440 five million, seven million, eight million, nine million, how many millions 173 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.720 do you need to feel sure? But I would go to the Bobby Bonilla 174 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.440 route. Yeah, pay me for the rest of my life one million a 175 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.799 year? Good with that? Yeah, I'm all good with that. So 176 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.879 this is just breaking news. I just saw Jaguars and Trevyd Lawrence just agreed 177 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:03.159 to a five year, two hundred and seventy five million dollars. Deal, 178 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.639 Jesus, just win some games, man, yep, some games every time, 179 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.519 man, every time a new contract, it's got to be the next 180 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.799 guy getting being the highest paid guy in the history of mankind. He's receiving 181 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:22.440 one hundred and forty two million at signing. God, let you borrow some 182 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.919 of that, man, What do you do with that? Where do you 183 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:26.360 put it? Steve? Now, I know you get you know, you 184 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.480 get tax on it, you gotta pay your agent and YadA, YadA YadA. 185 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:31.399 But you're still like, what do you do with all that money? 186 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.720 And I just about like that. I'm mad. It's how we started the 187 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.360 show. Not good for him, you know. He seems like one of 188 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:48.559 the good guys though, right file accounts. Yeah, I mean I I've 189 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:54.039 enjoyed like watching him with the Jaga Jaguars started doing better. My sister wants 190 00:12:54.039 --> 00:13:00.440 to go out with him? Is it there? Yeah? It is? 191 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.480 This is of course, this is well, my sister would want to go 192 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:11.279 out with him. And don't ask your wife. No, she's she's stuck 193 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.200 on Mookie bets. Okay, she loves Mookie. Are you laying? We 194 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:20.919 know more abouty Lane than that we need to know about her boyfriend's Gonzales. 195 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:28.480 What's his name, Louise, Louise Gonzalez. Probably you know Steve we get, 196 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:35.559 the coach of the Cardinals. Oh h h Cliff Kingsburg. Yeah, 197 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.399 well my wife wanted some of that too. Oh I know too much about 198 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.120 the just too much, all right? So uh okay, so we're gonna 199 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.000 take our break here a few minutes. We're getting close. Roxy Bernstein is 200 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.720 ready for us, so we'll get him on in a minute. But just 201 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.200 last report before we head for the break. Uh Rory McElroy has moved into 202 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.879 a tie for the lead at the US Open. He started with Patrick Cantley. 203 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.240 You've got ludvig Over in third at minus four, and then you got 204 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:11.039 a guy named Matthew Poplone and Bryson Deshambeau in fourth. So's it's five under 205 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.840 as the lead. So it's a hard golf course. Are having a tough 206 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.600 time in the Scottie cheff are down in thirty ninth place and tiger Woods they 207 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.639 think last we saw was an eighty third place, so a lot of work. 208 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:22.840 You know, Phil Michlson is even further out of it than that. 209 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.279 So all right, let's say let's take our break. We're going to bring 210 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.840 up Bring in Rocksey Bernstein and just talk about the a little bit at the 211 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.679 end of the pact. Well Bill Walton and where he goes from here, 212 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.200 So stick around. The Windows Depot is more than a Windows store. The 213 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.240 Windows Depot is a one soft warehouse with everything you need for your complete Homer 214 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:43.840 model. 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Roxy, 282 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.799 how are you, Steve doing well hanging in there. I was gonna 283 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.799 open this on this may be a funny thing or not, but Jay and 284 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.559 I have been here a long time. We look old, we feel old. 285 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.839 You look like you're twelve still. How does that work? How does 286 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.640 that work? That's that's the ultimate compliment you just gave me. I don't 287 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.640 feel that way physically. I'll tell you that. You know, I saw 288 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:59.319 you two weeks ago to the baseballs is he doesn't he doesn't doesn't right, 289 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:04.319 And one of the those guys I did make up or something. Yeah, 290 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:08.920 I can do wonders exactly exactly. So Roxy, uh you know, uh 291 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.319 you know mentioned uh you know you did the you did the last uh PAC 292 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:21.039 twelve Networks uh broadcast with the championship of the PAC twelve Baseball tournament. Then 293 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.400 the next day you had uh while you did the semi finals and then the 294 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:30.039 finals. So you you know what was that like for you? Because you've 295 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.680 been such a big part of PAC twelve Networks and the PAC twelve conference and 296 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.359 and all the sports you gave. You know, I loved your your speech 297 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.559 on both nights and yeah, uh you know what what you talked about. 298 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.240 I think, well, when when we all look back after we heard that 299 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.519 Bill Walton passed away, we felt like you gave us a clue that something 300 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:51.000 was might be about to happen. But what went into all that in terms 301 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.799 of what you wanted to say and how you wanted to leave it, Well, 302 00:20:55.039 --> 00:21:00.519 they were they were two different deliveries or two different endings for me between 303 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.519 the two. First off, as you could tell, it was emotional, 304 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:11.359 as you alluded to, you know, the network certainly meant a lot to 305 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.920 me, but the PAC twelve in general, growing up in the Bay Area, 306 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.640 going to games of Cal and Stanford as a kid and going to Cal 307 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:25.039 and being around this conference as long as I have, It's sad and it 308 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:30.680 was emotional, and I think that was something I wanted to get across in 309 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.400 when I was signing off. But the other thing also was For example, 310 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:40.079 when I was signing off with the PAC twelve network the final live broadcast on 311 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:45.640 the Friday night, the second semi finally Arizona game against Stanford, I was 312 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:52.200 speaking. I was speaking for I felt for everybody at the network like I 313 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.240 was the voice for them. And the network has taken its criticism over the 314 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.039 years, and some of it's fair as far as the care issues it had 315 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.880 over the years, and for some the ability just to get the network. 316 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:12.680 But I don't think anybody could fault the efforts the broadcast itself, the delivery 317 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:19.839 from us that we put everything we had into those broadcasts. And I was 318 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.359 in a lot of ways speaking for everybody at the network, whether it's the 319 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.400 faces on camera you see like me, like Matt Muleback, like Ashley Adamson, 320 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:33.480 like Yogi, you know, on and on, but also the people 321 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.759 on the other side of the camera, all the production people, the executives 322 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:42.119 of the network, and I wanted to relay what I thought was everybody's feeling 323 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.519 toward the ending of the network and what it meant to people. And I 324 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.000 think I did that. And then the next night when I did the ESPN 325 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.079 sign off, they wanted it a little bit more personal for me, which 326 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.720 it was, and that's why I showed some pictures of my family, some 327 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:06.559 of the pictures over the years with different people I've worked with, and so 328 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.680 there was some similarities between the two, but at the same time they were 329 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.359 a little bit different in what the message was that I was getting out there. 330 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.119 I'm sure you did get a lot of messages because it was heartfelt that 331 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.759 you knew it was coming from the heart, and then you mentioned Bill, 332 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:26.000 and then the next day it was it was just just just hint hit everybody. 333 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.960 It did. And look, I knew that Bill wasn't doing well. 334 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:37.559 I had known for a while that Bill was battling, and I was clued 335 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:45.079 in by a couple of people that had either seen Bill talk to Bill that 336 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:51.519 unfortunately the end was going to be sooner rather than later. And I wanted 337 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:57.200 to get my appreciation for him across as well, because he is the epitome 338 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:03.799 of the Conference of Champions and it's not just his signature catchphrase, but he 339 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.880 lived it, and I wanted to get that across and also publicly pay respect 340 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.400 to him and thank him for everything that he had done, not just for 341 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:17.960 the conference, but for me personally, for all the student athletes that he 342 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.799 came in contact with, because he loved it, He loved being around the 343 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:26.759 game, and it meant a lot to me when I got a text from 344 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:36.839 his wife Laurie after the game Saturday night that Bill had seen what I did 345 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.480 and it was a great honor for him, and she relayed that to me 346 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.640 and that meant the world to me, that Bill knew how I felt about 347 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.680 him and what he meant to me, and what he meant to the landscape 348 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.680 and what he you know, he symbolized the PAC twelve. Well, and 349 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.519 you mentioned all the people that you know, we're thinking about. Is that 350 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.559 as it relates to this. You know, Yogi Roth's been on our show. 351 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.519 Ashley Adamson has been on our shows. You mentioned Matt Muhlbach, local 352 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.799 guy. Just all these people that you say, Okay, this is all 353 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:07.799 over, and I'm you know, you guys are going to move on to 354 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.359 other stuff. You're still going to be doing stuff for ESPN, but there's 355 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.400 gonna be a big hole right with the pack, with the PAC twelve gone, 356 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.640 and these the teams from the league scattered all over the place, you 357 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.160 know, and all these conferences from where you said, what does that feel 358 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.640 like to you? I know it's sad, but you know we're like, 359 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.480 we're talking about Okay, now everyone who's in the Big twelve, We're going 360 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.680 to the Big twelve. It's time to start talking about the Big twelve instead 361 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:34.119 of looking back at the at the PAC twelve. Have you moved on to 362 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:41.000 that point yet? I had to turn the page now because that's life and 363 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.079 that's what we got to do. And all year long, even though I 364 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.079 knew it was coming, I didn't want to look at it that way. 365 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:53.960 Like I tried to compartmentalize as best as I could that I threw myself into 366 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.680 every game and what that I was doing, and I didn't want to look 367 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.119 at sort of the bigger picture down the road. But I wanted to focus 368 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:07.000 on those two teams as programs, the players, the coaches, the two 369 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:12.799 universities, and that's it. But now you have to look at it differently, 370 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.960 and it's gonna be weird. It's gonna be bizarre. And ESPN started 371 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.640 moving media some Big twelve last year, so I'm sure, even though I 372 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:25.039 don't know the plan yet, but I'm sure I'll be doing some Arizona, 373 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:32.160 Asu, Colorado, Utah BYU to Big twelve next year, and probably some 374 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.000 ACC because Callen Stanford. And then what else does it mean? Probably some 375 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.000 more West Coast Conference the handful of Big West games that they have, But 376 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.720 it's certainly gonna be different, but it's gonna be weird that instead of it 377 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:52.319 Arizona against Oregon or the Sun Devil's playing Washington. I'm gonna be doing Arizona 378 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:59.799 against Texas Tech and Colorado against Baylor. It's just gonna be take some getting 379 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.000 you too. And that's that's the real shame all so on. All this 380 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.920 is these great rivalries over the years, right, the Arizona Ucla basketball rivalry 381 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.720 and what that's become. And it's great that they're going to play each other 382 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.319 in these one offs and have a contract signed for a number of years. 383 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:21.359 But we're not gonna have cal UCLA Stanford USC. These rivalries are going to 384 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:26.519 be gone. And that's one of the other real frustrating and sad things about 385 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:33.440 all the pieces moving into different conferences is there's some great history, especially when 386 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.319 you look at the Southern California Northern California schools. Yeah, no question. 387 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.359 So we've talked to a lot of people who have come through the conference. 388 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.920 You've done a number of years in the conference. Any great to maybe two 389 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.480 or three great moments that you've just come off the top of your head about 390 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:56.319 games you've been at and followed. Boy, there's been so many. You 391 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.599 know, I go back and it's funny, like I was trying to reflect 392 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.920 on some of the I did with Bill and we did a game boy. 393 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.599 I mean a number of years ago that when both u CLA and Oregon were 394 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.680 in the top ten and it was a Pac twelve opener on ESPN. That's 395 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:18.160 when Lonzo Ball was at UCLA and Oregon had Chris Bouchet and Dylan Brooks and 396 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:25.519 Peyton Pritchard. It was just phenomenal basketball and the arena that night in Eugene 397 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.799 was electric. And that's one of the games that stands out to me just 398 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.920 in terms of the impact of the game, and the game lived up to 399 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.519 the building because Dylan Brooks hit the three pointer at the buzzer to win the 400 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:44.559 game. But it's opened the door to some great relationships to become friendly with 401 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.319 Bill. You know, for years, ESPN had pared me with Miles Simon 402 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.000 unpacked all games, and Miles and I are still very close. In fact, 403 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:56.039 Miles and I had breakfast when we were in Scottsdale for the baseball tournament, 404 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.400 catching up. And that's what I'm going to remember more. Yes, 405 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.480 they're the game and all these phenomenal players over the years that have come in 406 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:10.359 contact with but it's relationships and that's what I'm going to miss especially with some 407 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.200 of the schools going to the Big ten that I'm not gonna be covering Washington, 408 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.680 Oregon, SC and UCLA at least for a little while. Probably right 409 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.599 we're talking to Roxy Bernstain. I guess do we call you former PAC twelve 410 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.359 networks broadcasters? I guess we can. I haven't. I haven't changed a 411 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.799 Twitter profile yet. You know, at some point I'm reluctant to drop the 412 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.519 PAC twelve dandle on there. But if it doesn't, well the network's still 413 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.400 airing for another what couple of weeks contractually. Yeah, it just doesn't feel 414 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.240 right. But also also with the ESPN, so all over the board. 415 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.119 So okay, so we're going on. Okay, we're moving on right as 416 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.720 you say, we're turning the page. You got these schools that are going 417 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.759 to the Big twelve, and you know you'll be you'll be a part of 418 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.680 part of that. What do you think of the big tough season? Right 419 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.079 it's started, We're starting to build it up. You know about Utah being 420 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.759 a favorite or Kansas State, you know, Arizona may be you know, 421 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.519 it may have a chance to contend. These PAC twelve schools moving to the 422 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.039 Big twelve. What do you expect to see. Well, I think that 423 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.359 Utah steps in as a favorite next year, and going on the track record 424 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.680 of Kyle Whittingham, I think you have to give them that edge. Plus, 425 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.960 they have Cam Rising back and a lot of key guys coming back for 426 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:25.480 Utah. And let's face it, the league is a little bit of a 427 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.680 step down from the competition in the Pac twelve because all of a sudden, 428 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.480 well, Oregon and Washington were prime candidates for the College Football Playoff and Washington 429 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.960 went into it last year year and year out dealing with the talent for SC 430 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.799 even though they had a down year this past year, I think that it's 431 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.279 a more winnable conference to be honest with you. There isn't as much of 432 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.039 a challenge where Utah is a favorite, and I do think Arizona is going 433 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.400 to make a push. I'm a huge Brent Brannan fan, but you know, 434 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.680 selfishly, Brent and I grew up together and Brent I as we were 435 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.240 seven years old. Wow, they were real good friends. And so I'm 436 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.039 going to root for Arizona because of my relationship with Brent. And that's the 437 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.359 one thing that you've learned over the years too, is you've root for people, 438 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:14.400 and I've come across some great people over the years around the league, 439 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.799 and you tend to pull for them. Now that a lot of them are 440 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:22.519 going into different areas that you can root for them. And for example, 441 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.960 I'm still very close for Sean Miller. I root for Xavier. I want 442 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.759 Sean to do well. And that's not going to change because people are people, 443 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.000 and over the years that people have helped me do my job, I'm 444 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:38.039 going to be more inclined to help them and because we are in a position 445 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:44.680 where we can help these programs and get their message across. And that's the 446 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.440 thing is like over the years, all these relationships and that's going to be 447 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.000 sad about that. Okay, no longer am I going to have that relationship 448 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.200 with University of Washington. Well, Mike Hopkins got let go anyways, But 449 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.759 you know, Dana Altan's been in Oregon forever. Dana's great, and that's 450 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.640 going to be the weird dynamic. And then turning on and watching Oregon play 451 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.680 Rutgers in a conference game, Ucla playing Maryland, like what are we doing? 452 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.960 How does this make sense? And I just don't know if it's sustainable 453 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.920 to be honest with you, but at least for Nick a little while. 454 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.519 That's what we got right right, Just so we have a couple of minutes 455 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:25.400 left. You're close to Sean. What are your impressions of Tommy? I 456 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:30.119 love Tommy and I've gotten to know Tommy very well from when he was working 457 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.119 with Mark Ugh. In fact, you know when coaches would call me when 458 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.400 he was still at Gonzaga. Hey, i'm putting a list together. Your 459 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.640 athletic directors would call me in terms of I'm looking to hire a coach. 460 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.759 Who do I need to talk to? Well, Tommy was the first name 461 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.240 that I thought of always. In fact, you know when Cal went through 462 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.759 this search a number of years ago. This is all you need to know 463 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.359 about how I feel about Tommy. When Cal was hiring Mark Fox and putting 464 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.640 Jim Nolton r Ad put their list together, I said, look, I 465 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.160 don't know how your search is going to go, but you need to call 466 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.559 Tommy Lloyd at Gonzaga. That's the guy you need to talk to. And 467 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.519 I just thought the world of him personally and professionally, and it's showing now 468 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.920 because as we see, he's a tremendous coach plays such an attractive style. 469 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:22.839 He's bringing in talent, Arizona said, it's you know, you go from 470 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.480 loud Olston to Sean Miller now to Tommy Lloyd. That's that's an embarrassing of 471 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.000 riches right there. Oh what about that basketball conference now in the Big Twelve 472 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.839 with Arizona. I mean, boy, I know, I'm of all the 473 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.000 things that's happened as sad as I am about the PAC twelve folding its ten. 474 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.119 I can't wait for basketball season. Well, and that's the thing is, 475 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.680 Okay, maybe football isn't going to be at the level it was before, 476 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.839 but certainly Arizona and the newcomers to the conference are stepping into what is 477 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.839 perceived as the best basketball conference in the country with you look at the success 478 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.039 across the board right that these teams have had, and then he threw Houston 479 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.640 into the mix last year, and certainly Baylor the recent successes they've had. 480 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.039 Of course, you got a blue blood in Kansas, Iowa State, what's 481 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.559 going on there? And now you're going to throw Arizona into the mix with 482 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:20.119 these schools that you're set up for some amazing basketball coming up in the years 483 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.599 to come. Yeah, no question. Well, well, Rochy, thanks 484 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.840 for joining us. Always good to talk to you. Go appreciate it, 485 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.679 man, We're glad you're still going to be coming around. That's at least 486 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.800 we've got that going for us over here. Who don't you know, Miles, 487 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:37.079 you got Tommy Man. It's funny that you know. I was going 488 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.480 through a list of and it's far and away Arizona's number one as far as 489 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.440 the school that the analysts I have worked with the most, like the highest 490 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.679 number of analysts because I go in basketball, Miles and certainly Corey Williams and 491 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.039 he and I have been attached to him for years now. But it's not 492 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.320 just basketball. I mean, I've worked with Richard Jefferson, I've worked with 493 00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.360 Melbach. You go to football. I've worked with Glenn Parker baseball, West 494 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.360 Clements, JT. Snow, Scott Erickson, and I probably I did a 495 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.760 basketball game with Jay John once. So you know, it's almost like the 496 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.119 list is never ending with all the Arizona people I've worked with over the years, 497 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.159 Right right, right, Okay, great to hear from you, Roxy, 498 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.840 Thanks a whole bunch. Again, we do appreciate it, and well, 499 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:22.400 you know, we'll see you around. You got it, guys. 500 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.840 I'm just happy and I can't wait to get back there. All right, 501 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:29.440 thanks you so much. One of the good guys, one of the really 502 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.639 good guys. Yeah. I just remember going to Northern California and then he 503 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.880 was doing those games there. Yeah, and I'm brilliant. I mean, 504 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.360 sitting you're thinking, I'm glad that he's with ESPN because you know he'll keep 505 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.639 doing Arizona games. And he's one of the guys that you know, you 506 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.400 when when you turn it on and you realize Roxy Bernstein's doing the game you're 507 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.960 about to watch, you're happy that you're happy that you got it. So 508 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.639 very cool. All right, thanks so much. Okay, let's take our 509 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.639 break. We're gonna come back. We'd love to take your calls. Five 510 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.920 two zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty anything you 511 00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.519 want to talk about. We're here for you. Depression. I'm out of 512 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:04.079 my depression. Roxy brought me back. Look good, Roxy has that power 513 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.920 over view. I feel good again and I'm looking forward to dinner. All 514 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.519 Right, we'll be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, 515 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.199 you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back 516 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.000 at the Ludolsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, It 517 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.079 was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches 518 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.519 and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 519 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.239 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty five 520 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.480 years as Arizona's beloved coach. 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Come be a 555 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.000 part of a winning team the A Team apply online today at A Team security 556 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.239 dot net. This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez 557 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:22.000 sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app 558 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.960 Just Surgery I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to my Iding the 559 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.960 Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay, and 560 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.920 we have Ryan with us fourteen minutes. If you want to call us five 561 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.800 to two, zero four, one, six, seventy four or forty you'd 562 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.280 love to hear from you. Good to talk to Roxy. It was our 563 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.719 first time to talk. Yeah, it's first time we have at least I've 564 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.039 been on the show again. One of the good guys. I got to, 565 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.159 you know, have some drinks with him in in China for that China 566 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.000 game. And he's just a fun guy, you know, always kind of 567 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:57.400 upbeat and funny and uh, very really personable guy and uh, you know, 568 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.760 he's just you know, somebody who's just his good fun to be around 569 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.400 it. So yeah, well he's been here a long time and then he 570 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.920 does to be look really really maybe I need to shave up. Yeah. 571 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.719 Talking about this naming rights thing, I'm looking at through Twitter, and it 572 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.039 is, in fact All State. According to Ross Dellinger, it's All State 573 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.719 that the Big Twelve is talking to and the new the name that they're considered 574 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:30.639 that sources say is they're considering calling it the All State Twelve. Put me 575 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.400 the name of the conference instead of the Big Twelve, and that the the 576 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.960 the Big twelve is the one that wants to retain twelve. If you know, 577 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.960 they don't want to take away the big because then they feel people won't 578 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.880 use the all state part of it. Let's take this call, Hire on 579 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.119 the air and Eye on the ball. Hey guys, what bick? What's 580 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.840 up? So I had a quick question. I asked a lot of people 581 00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:00.480 about this. So when I lived in LA and you guys know for forty 582 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:06.079 years, and after I got my divorce, moved into my own place and 583 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.800 I was gonna get direct TV and I first question is you have Pack twelve? 584 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.480 They said no, So I had to get this network. Then when 585 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:21.599 Spectrum picked up the Dodgers, I twitched the cable. The first question I 586 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:27.519 asked Spectrum was do you have fact twelve networks on Facebook every the last ten 587 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.239 years? Or whoever you read? Oh, what's up? Back twelve? 588 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:37.159 I can't get it, bah Like, if you enjoy the Wildcats or you 589 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.800 enjoy the Dodger, whoever may be, What the hell can you not get 590 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:50.360 the PAC twelve network when it's it's readily available to me? To me what 591 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.639 the PAC twelve did though? Just just not getting direct TV? If there 592 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.519 if you point to one single thing that killed the LEGA was that never having 593 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.280 direct TV, so never being everywhere. I was one of the first direct 594 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:07.039 TV customers in Tucson, and you know, and I mean I I hung 595 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.000 on to Direct TV as long as they possibly could, but ultimately had to 596 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.360 you know, had to go over to to Comcast, you know, our 597 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.760 cable over here to be able to get packed off network. And it was 598 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.599 frustrating that they could never get that deal done. To me, it circles 599 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.039 all the way back to that. That was sort of when they couldn't get 600 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:32.280 that done, that was like this, this was ultimately gonna happen. It 601 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.239 just seems so weird that if you enjoy the cast, if you live in 602 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.400 Tucson and you're not gonna go to the game, that you're not going to 603 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.880 get a cable that has right well right, no, absolutely, I'm gonna 604 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.679 tell you guys another thing, and you kay hit on it with Rockny. 605 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.920 I love nothing more than Bill Walton and Neil Bach and those guys that know 606 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.599 they know every travel team that everybody played on. They know what high school 607 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.039 they say, Oh, this guy played for Gary mcnight at Modern Day or 608 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.880 wherever. Maybe oh, we're gonna get that in the Big Twelve where the 609 00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.199 guys know the players personally, and I don't think, no, you're right, 610 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.639 You're right, you won't get that personal. We're gonna lose a lot 611 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.519 of that, you know, you won't get that personal and ad vice versa. 612 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.440 If they have the West Coast guys there, they're not gonna do the 613 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.519 same thing. You know. One of the things Vic that I'm I'm I 614 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.760 wouldn't call it worried. It's just like I feel like it's gonna happen. 615 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.679 Like you know, all the Big Twelve media, I feel like they're gonna 616 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:34.519 still kind of embrace the current twelve teams. It's gonna kind of look, 617 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.960 Okay, these four guys are coming, but we'll cover them as much as 618 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.199 we have to, but not any more than that. It'll take it's gonna 619 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:44.159 take a while. It's I think it's gonna take a while for the media 620 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.480 to absorb these four new teams, uh and sort of make them consider them 621 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.920 really a part of the Big Twelve. And as I think that's sort of 622 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.360 a natural thing. I mean it was. I think it was kind of 623 00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.159 like that with the Big Twelve when Colorado Utah came in right there was kind 624 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.880 of like, okay, yeah, you're in the league, but you're kind 625 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.320 of you're not really part of the league. Yeah, I agree. I 626 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.840 had one more quick story to tell you and before I hang up. So 627 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:16.199 years ago, when Dick Tomy had left Arizona, we were doing a he 628 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:21.480 was he was joining a clinic at the state championship at the Home Depot Center 629 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.239 there in Carson, and my company had sponsored it. We're setting up all 630 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.039 of our wares and stuff to show and I go to the bathroom and Dick 631 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.519 Tomy's in there and I'm in the ural next too, and I said, 632 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.679 Coach Tomy, I'm a big fan, I'm a wildcat. We live blah 633 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:43.119 blah blah. And he says, Vic, wash your hands before I shake 634 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:50.679 him. It was great, good good. That was That was my interaction 635 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:59.119 with Coach Tomy. Good good you guys, fantastic show today. Honestly, 636 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.360 I was, man, thank you, thank you. Checks it. Vic 637 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.800 is only I think that last thing falls under the category of t M. 638 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.599 I no, it's funny because I have a story like that with Mike Graham 639 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:13.960 and myself and and Loot. You know how, sometimes we go in the 640 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.039 tournaments, and we have a new side guy go to the tournaments, and 641 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.920 and he needed to get a front page story, and he needed to talk 642 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.760 to Loot, but he was already not on the podium anymore. So I 643 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:22.760 said, the only way you're gonna do it, you got to follow him 644 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.000 to the bus. You gotta fallo him to the bus. But one of 645 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.599 those pit stops was the restaurant. It was like the La Coliseum, I 646 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.360 think it was l A is one of those arenas, and you got to 647 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:39.320 go. So he went in there and started asking use. He says, 648 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:45.360 I gotta do what I gotta do, and if you're not gonna if you 649 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.480 don't get that quote, you're screwed. I had to get drunk to do 650 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:53.239 a story. Was that the driving? I think still hungover from that. 651 00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:00.280 I don't think I recovered. That would answer a lot of questions. Yeah, 652 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.039 how were we before the call came in? Well, I don't know. 653 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.800 You were talking about the All States All States? Oh yeah, yeah, 654 00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.559 that it's gonna be All State twelve. It sounds like that that's the 655 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.119 that's the company that that that they're talking about. Oh, what I was 656 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.719 going to say is that you know All State's gonna want They're not gonna want 657 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.239 people to keep calling at the Big twelve. I know some people will, 658 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.440 but it has to it has to be the name, like some of the 659 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.599 bowl games. Right for a long time, was that Tony the Tiger Bowl 660 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.840 not the Sun Bowl? Right. Well, you know, in the world 661 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.440 of journalism, the last thing that we want to do is use the sponsors, 662 00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.159 use the sponsor name. And sometimes we just had to. Yeah, 663 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.079 yeah, and I get it, you know, you know, you pay 664 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.079 for something like that. You wanted to, you know, you wanted to 665 00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.440 work for you. But yeah, we we always fought that, right, 666 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.360 whatever the sponsor of the bowl game was, well, we didn't call it 667 00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.800 that. I think the media has gotten a little bit better about that. 668 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:57.280 Yeah, And certainly with contracts and stuff like that, you know, especially 669 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.679 ESPNS and the Foxes and stuff like that, they have to you know, 670 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.159 say, you know, when we mentioned your bowl game, we will mention 671 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.599 the sponsor, especially if those sponsors are buying ads of the paper, right, 672 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.119 you have to, you have to. So yeah, I again to 673 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:14.599 me, Fine, we're in the All State twelve. I don't care. 674 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.400 Let's take this call. Hi, You're on the air, and on the 675 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.280 ball. This is Dave. How are you guys, Jem, how are 676 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.840 you doing? You sound better than you did the last time. Yeah, 677 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.840 I know. I'm just getting over my allergies, so yeah, I'm very 678 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.760 better. What's on your mind? We're doing fine. What's on your mind? 679 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:42.280 So, honestly, uh do This fish did an interview with the guy 680 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:49.840 who basically with Jetfish to interview that a couple of months ago that basically said 681 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.480 that Jetfish wasn't gonna leave, that it wasn't going to leave Arizona. But 682 00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:01.679 now he did an interview with the same guy, and this Fish basically basically 683 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:09.199 said that the reason why he left was because of the DC coordinator Johnny Hanson 684 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.920 leaving and some other sugar honey, I see that it's full of human vehicle 685 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.760 matters. So anyway, Yeah, I just wait for Jetfish to Bountill, 686 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:29.519 Florida and have those husky fans feeling like the world's biggest idiots. So yeah, 687 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.800 Dab, I saw the same interview. I didn't think much of it 688 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.119 because to me, it's an old story and I need to walk you off 689 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.159 this ledge. We're moving on, Okay, We're gonna move on. Okay, 690 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.239 you know, yeah, you ready for the Big twelve game? You 691 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.239 ready? Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely Arizona, I think. 692 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.519 Well, in nineteen ninety eight, No, nineteen ninety nine, Arizona 693 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.719 had a really down year in and or cross chair Arizona football. But hopefully 694 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:07.800 that's not going to be another reality. Hopefully they can stop. Hopefully they 695 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:13.719 can stock wins on top of them, and then and then proved to the 696 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.960 mainstream media that Arizona is the next Utah. Well, yeah, you bring 697 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.119 up the ninety nine. Jade talks about that all the time. After a 698 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:28.119 strong year, they've always not lived up to it the next year. Well, 699 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.320 also in twenty fifteen, I mean in twenty fourteen, Arizona did a 700 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:37.719 pretty good job. In twenty fourteen they went to the Sestible and play against 701 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:45.599 Boise State, and then in twenty fifteen the train went off the rails. 702 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:52.119 And then and Arizona hasn't had consistency in quite a while, correct, Jay, 703 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.440 Right, That's exactly it, And that's the frustrating part of it. 704 00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:00.280 Great seasons have not been followed up by another great season so far in the 705 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.920 history of football. You know your history, Gabe, Yeah, way to 706 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.559 go. Gabe. All right, man, thank you, Gabe, thanks 707 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.800 for listening. We're moving on, Gabe, We're moving on. Thank you. 708 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.000 I think you know what Brendan kind of said it officially, they have 709 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:21.000 to say thank you to what has happened. He brought him here. Just 710 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:22.559 let's go, just move, let's go, let's go to the next thing. 711 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.039 Yeah, you know, we got it. Yeah, I mean, 712 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.719 and I mean I know it's June and I We've got a ways to go, 713 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.800 but I'm ready to start talking, you know, stop talking about the 714 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.679 PAC twelve and let's just talk about Okay, we're in the Big twelve. 715 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.239 Now, let's let's go through what all that's gonna mean. It's gonna you 716 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.199 know, and that's what Roxy said. It's gonna be different. You know, 717 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.880 it's gonna be different. But maybe someway, once it gets going, 718 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.639 maybe it might be refreshing. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, 719 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.559 I think so, I mean, you think, yeah, I think 720 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:53.880 so. You buy a new car, are even ready to drive it, 721 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.119 and you get excited until you don't drive it anymore. Unless the cars the 722 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.760 tires go off the real and they don't do well, then you're thinking, 723 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.519 what the heck? Did we get ourselves into Yeah, yeah, and that 724 00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.760 and I don't think that's gonna happen now. I think Roxty makes a good 725 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.280 point there. You know, it's it's not a top heavy league. You 726 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:15.480 don't have an Oregon in Washington, were Washington usc N. Well, let 727 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.480 me tell you something. That point has been brought up here a thousand times 728 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.599 thousand times because they moved to the better competitive conference for them, right, 729 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.039 Yeah, No, And I feel like, you know the way I lunch 730 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:29.320 yesterday with my my Wednesday group, I was explaining to them, guys, 731 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.920 Arizona is in a better position to go to a Rose Bowl then it's been 732 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.960 in a really long time because if they get if they get it, can 733 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.480 get into the playoff. And look, let's face it, with a twelve 734 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:43.920 team playoff, all you got to do is finish first or second in the 735 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.199 regular season and you're going to be in the playoff whether you win the league 736 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:51.920 or not. And then if you can get bracketed into a bracket where you 737 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.000 you win a game or two and now you're in the Rose Bowl, there's 738 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.760 there's actually some hope. I think I feel like more hope than having to 739 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.840 beat all those teams to get indoor ros. But you'll take that. I 740 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.159 take that. I'll take that one hundred percent, you know, you know, 741 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.000 I mean, it'll suck if Arizona does get into a playoff and then 742 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:12.519 their bracket doesn't get them to the Rose Bull and they go to the Cotton 743 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.920 Bowl or the whatever. You're going, If they get to the Cotton Bowl, 744 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:16.679 you're going, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do that. 745 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:21.079 Yeah. But yeah, if they're in a playoff and they're in the quarterfinals, 746 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:22.079 you know, in one of those old games, of course, we're 747 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.320 going. Those are New Year's Day games. They'll be fun, it'll be 748 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:30.639 fun. So I think I football wise, Arizona is in a better position 749 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:36.280 in terms of you know, being relevant. I guess, you know, 750 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.880 no question, yeah, no question. It's a win win, It's a 751 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.000 win win, especially especially in basketball. We'll see what happens in football. 752 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:44.960 I mean, am I going to miss the USC game, the U c 753 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.159 l A game, the Oregon game, the Washington game. Yeah I am. 754 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.280 But we'll get used to the other stuff, you know, and then 755 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.400 we'll we'll just see these other teams and just try and kick their asses. 756 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.239 Change is good sometimes I think this case, this one. It's gonna be 757 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.800 okay better than you'll turn, which is to be Oregon State and Washington. 758 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.920 But we're not having a place to go. Because it was the point where 759 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.079 you said, I hope they take us exactly right. We were worried about 760 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.199 that. At least I was worried about that. You don't worry about any 761 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:14.639 of the the US was figuratively exactly yes, yeah, exactly. Okay, 762 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.440 all right, we're out here. Fun show today, Roxy Burnstein, John 763 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.960 Wilner. If you're just getting here, the podcast will be up tonight. 764 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:23.519 Give those guys a listen, and we will be back tomorrow.