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tribute to the late Cyril Weckt who
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it's time for the wide open mic. And that means you can be part

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Maybe we'll get into news, Maybe
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on your mind tonight. Maybe you
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my collas B Pete. How are
you doing this week, man, I'm

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doing pretty good. A little busy, kind of hectic a work out.

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The weather is fully stabilized into summer. We're trying to go back and get

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a little spring in the air,
maybe next week back in the seventies.

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But it's been busy. I haven't
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on the news other than the blow
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And I did not even know that
cirril Wick had passed away. Yeah,

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I hadn't heard anything about it,
hadn't seen anything on any of the damn

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news sides I'd go too, which
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like that. So I'm really surprised. Yeah, if it wasn't if it

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wasn't for me watching media in the
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You know, Pittsburgh, so there
was they did a thing on the

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news for him and announced his death, you know, because he was a

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big figure in Pittsburgh. But but
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amount of news coverage. I'll tell
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thought it would have got a lot
more attention. Remember the guy who attacked

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Paul Pelosi with the hammer. Remember
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line. He got quite a bit
of time, didn't he thirty years apparently?

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Uh, you know, where's the
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it's look, I don't go to
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is covering it. I don't know
is anybody covering it? I saw something

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on CBS News today. That's the
only place I've seen it. It was

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just a short blip that he got
the thirty years. Wow. I mean,

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you know CNN is going gabble to
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they don't have time for nothing else. Here's for murder in most states?

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Yeah, yeah, I know,
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I mean I don't think you're you
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you are attacking somebody in a certain
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okay, even though you didn't succeed. I mean, if you're hitting somebody

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in the head with a hammer,
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damage. You know, just what
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most guys that get popped for murder, now, you know, they figure

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twenty years and then they're out after
twelve, right, And it just kills

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me that he got thirty out of
the deal. And this is in California,

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No damn liberal way. Or well, see there's the other shocker,

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right, because most people would think
liberal state, this guy's gonna get what

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five years in therapy? Right?
Yeah, well not so much, not

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if you attack Nancy Pelosi's husband,
I guess. But he was also supposed

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to be looking to kidnap her too, right, so they had to wrap

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that charge into it as well.
Yeah, good knows. Could you imagine

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kidnappen? So you'll love to listen
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I could not imagine getting stuck spending
time with Nancy Pelosi. Weird thing.

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You're going all robotic. We might
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down on your uh on your signal. I don't know why that's happening.

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Maybe I'll actually take a break.
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a quick break here. See we
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check my broadcast, check my feed, because God knows what's going on electronics

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straightened out now, so it's all
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has to say. Now. You
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break that, uh, you know, you found it weird that there wasn't

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something that came up in your newspeed
that Cyril Weck passed away at ninety three

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years of age this week, So
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to follow on from there? Well, you know, I'm just I was

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gonna ask you how made his owners
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in this stuff. I'm just curious
how much how much influence do you think

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he had on the whole JFK debate? Oh? Huge, because you know,

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look, yeah, like you said, he was already like a young

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doctor pretty much. I mean he
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the dark hair was still there,
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thing. In the sixties, and
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go out there and say, look, I'm a doctor. I know how

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this stuff works. I do autopsies, and something's wrong here. When you

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know, some stuff came out.
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tribute there, he didn't get a
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seventy two, and Garrison was calling
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testify at the Shaw trial. So
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mean he was an early influenced CBS. If you look back at the UH,

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I think it was either three or
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eight there when CBS did there,
you know, we're going to study the

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Warrant Commission ourselves deal. I don't
know if you ever saw that program all

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the way through, but well,
he was invited to that, and I'm

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thinking, I know there was some
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and like I said, you know
the Shaw Trial, so I mean

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he was around a lot. And
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right, clearly not on the same
side as Boden and all that, and

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even that clip I played from the
fortieth anniversary presentation at Duquane in two thousand

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and three, you know, Michael
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that weekend, you know, for
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clearly stood on the other side of
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know, he definitely was part of
the debate. I think that nobody would

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have been asking in general out there, other authors, other people that were

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doing programs on it, documentaryes,
what happened to Kennedy's brain, except that

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Cyril rec ran around all over the
place saying, where's Kennedy's brain? It's

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lost, you know, And there
were people that said, oh, look,

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it's a very simple explanation and this, and then I kind of settle

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on that myself, even but the
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the fact that he participated in this
stuff, and people might not remember in

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the pre internet age, when you
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to do these documentaries and news specials
and whatever on the case, almost always

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they would go and find Cyril.
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conversation from the men who kill Kennedy
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got forgotten later, the half hour
news specials, all that stuff. I

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mean, they almost always sought out
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if you remember that whole mock trial, he calls him up as a witness,

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or maybe Spence called him as a
witness, but either way, you

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know, Bugliosi is a little rough
on him, but Boogliosi was kind of

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a jerk. And then the two
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debates between them. It was really
interesting. You know, he had been

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part of this case though for decades, not not just like popping up a

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couple of places or writing a couple
of books. Uh. Now, you

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know what always amazed me though,
if the doctors that that got involved in

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this and given their opinion on stuff
when what they had an autops of report

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and some doctor drawings and some doctor
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could you even come up with any
kind of conclusion medically as to what was

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going on when there's no damn info
out there to really study. I mean,

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it's all been muddied so much.
You know, you talk about his

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brain being you know, the brains
is missing. It's that can't be found

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well from what I understand just from
reading witness statements and things, like that,

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and there want a whole lot of
brain left, you know, so

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what could you tell other than a
devastating head woond from a brain that's been

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turned into putting. It just amazes
me the amount of discussion that has been

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generated by so little evidence. You
say that about how there's not much of

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the brain left. But here's the
problem. When he goes in seventy two

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and looks in the archives, there
is a photograph of a brain which everybody

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who I've ever spoken to that's seen
it goes, I don't even know how

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there's this much of the brain left. Plus they waited and the weight of

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the brain was heavier than a full
brain that's undisturbed, usually in a full

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grown adult male, you know.
And some people might say, well it

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took on extra fluid whatever else.
But the pictures that exist at the National

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Archives, which still the public has
not seen, do not show a brain

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that's missing a huge amount. It's
like, it's not missing that much.

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And you know, when you have
this explanation and the Suppruterer film out there,

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and then you go, look what
they're telling us happen, and what

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we see in the Zubruder film doesn't
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their written reports don't make sense from
a real world perspective when it comes to,

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you know, us having to do
these kinds of examinations, here's what

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you would assume the evidence to be. I think that's the way Cyril started.

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film makes its way out there,
he gets to the International Archives, the

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bootleg set gets out there. I
mean, you get a lot of looks

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at this stuff, and as time
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it doesn't match the storyline, right, Well, this isn't. And that's

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what gives me about the National Archives. I mean, anybody that had access

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to go into the Archives and could
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I mean, you know, good
and well, they had a set.

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This is what we're going to show
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exhibits or documents or whatever. That's
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there's no way in hell that what
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actually happened. I mean, the
government basically went out of their way to

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muddle everything involved in this. It
just amazes me the amount of discussion that

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comes up on what basically is so
little evidence. I wouldn't trust the National

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Archives to show me anything and say
that that's legit, that's the document that

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was generated, or this is the
medical evidence that we have. These are

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the photographs. I wouldn't trust them
to show me the real thing because I

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don't think that. I think they've
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is what we're going to give people, which in no way reflects what actually

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happened. And I think they do
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muddled up. Yeah, but see, may be wrong, but it seems

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to me that that's what's happening.
Your government agencies are putting false information out

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there to continue a discussion that nobody's
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because the battle for many years was
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look, the evidence doesn't match,
and then you get somebody else like John

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Latimer or some of these other people
that were allowed to go in there and

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examine this stuff, and they go, now, you see, I got

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to look at all forty of the
photographs, you know, like the fox

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set is only what ten photographs all
together, but there's like forty of them

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in existence at the National Archives,
right, and you have to get the

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special permission from the Kennedy family and
all that. But they go they look

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at this evidence, or they show
the doctors, you know, like Nova

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got the special permission if you remember, in nineteen eighty eight, to take

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the Dallas doctors in and let them
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I don't know if you remember that
show from eighty eight, remember the

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Who Killed JFK in eighty eight BBS
special. Yeah, well so they go

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in and they say, well,
yeah, it kind of looks like what

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I saw, but not quite.
You know, something's a little off,

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but basically okay. So they're telling
us that this stuff that only a handful

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of people ever got to see on
the one side, is not matches.

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This makes sense. And then you
got guys like this or G. Mantic

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or whoever else who got in saying
no, this doesn't make sense. I

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mean Mantic claims that it's a forgery
because there's a big white patch and the

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X ray because don't forget, there's
not just the forty photographs or so,

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but there's X rays, the photographs
of the brain. The brain was photographed,

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but again doesn't look like what anybody
would expect to see, considering having

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a whole bunch of brain matter blown
out of his head and leaking out onto

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a stretcher and end. Right.
So, you know, I get what

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you're saying. But at the same
time, today you or I could walk

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into the National Archives. We can
get in there and we can see five

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million documents, but we can't look
at the medical evidence still. You know,

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L's something I've never understood is how
the Kennedy family has so much holdover

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given mission to see something that is
basically evidence in a crime that was committed

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on the President of the United States, who basically is you know, it's

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an office held that represents the entire
public. You know, how in the

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hell did the Kennedys get all this
authority to say, no, we won't

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want this, we don't want that. It just killed I mean, this

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whole faith. From the second after
it happened, the government went in cover

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your ass mode, and I mean
they just screwed up everything. I wouldn't

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trust, even the documents that are
being released under this this new law.

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You know, they're they're throwing them
out there in dribs and drabs. I

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don't trust anything to come out of
them now, I really don't. And

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I don't see how people of any
education could put any faith in anything that's

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given to them by the government at
this point. It's purposely designed to keep

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everybody so confused and arguing about it
for the next sixty years. Well,

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have you ever been to the National
Archives? Although I was accused by Ralph

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cincopying one of their dirty agents that
would go out and you know, steal

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evidence and things like that and offer
it. And I was one of the

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gatekeepers for the National Archives. Oh
cool? Did they pay well? Because

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a pizza hell out of me.
I'm still waiting on the first check.

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All right, Well, hey let
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I'll tell you something weird. When
I first started, you know, doing

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research, and I got into it, you could go and you could make

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an appointment, and you could handle
Oswald's rifle. You could get them to

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lay out the bullets. You could
see some of the exhibits, some of

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the physical evidence. Even at one
point, I'm told and people have taken

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photographs. Now, I never did
this. Myself. But before I ever

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went, you were able actually to
look at Kennedy's shirt which was there,

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and all kinds of other stuff.
But somehow the autopsy stuff was sequestered and

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it was claim to be the property
of the Kennedy family. Now, I've

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got to say that I don't know
what legal precedent that's under. I've never

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heard anybody question that. I think
a lawsuit could be raised even to undo

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that, Like, how is it
that this belongs to the Kennedy family.

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I mean, I get at a
certain point they didn't want him to be

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an object of morbid curiosity. But
the cat is out of the bag there,

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you know. But that's just it. The actual brain, yes,

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would be property of Jackie Kennedy in
his spouse, right, I mean,

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everything would revert to her. But
the photographs and the X rays as being

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part of evidence in a crime,
yeah, would not be property of hers.

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So when she passed away, I
did suddenly this, you know,

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did everything change to the kids?
Everything went to them? Okay, well

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they still got the brain, but
any photographs and that would be evidence in

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a crime. I don't see how
they can claim ownership of something taken by

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the national government on one of their
employees in the crime of the century.

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Yes, yeah, see, that's
that's the thing. Though. At one

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time, the idea is that the
chain of possession goes like this. At

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one time that stuff was given to
the Kennedy family. They placed it at

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the National Archives under a deed of
gift right, which by the way,

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included not just the brain and uh
and and these uh, there was other

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stuff too, like the slides.
A lot of people don't understand what those

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slides are. There's literally tissue slides
taken right of the wounds. Uh.

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So there's parts, little bits and
pieces of JFK are basically sitting in a

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metal tray at the National Archives at
one point right along with this. That's

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what gives me. I've never heard
of any state that has performed an autopsy

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state that the results of that autopsy
were property of the decedents families. It

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was property of the state they did
the autopsy. It's their official files.

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It's evidence in that file. I've
never heard of a state giving over control

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of photographs and things like that to
the next of kin. Try to get

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a copy of your medical records,
and any hospital or doctor will tell you,

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oh, no, those are our
records. And you say no,

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they're my records. They say no, they're our records. You're just entitled

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to a copy. It's going to
cost you this much for age. Well,

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and that's basically how it's handled.
So I don't see how the federal

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government can suddenly just turn over everything
to the Kennedy family and let them bury

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it. See, that's the part
that kills me. Yeah, look like

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I said, though, like okay, and I think you would agree.

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The brain or the tissue slides,
which literally are pieces of the man,

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now those things returned to the family
for burial, for proper disposition. I

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think that's kind of the way it
should be. The bloody casket and all

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that reports. There's you see,
there's the confusing part to me, right

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there is I don't know how that
even came to be, because under what

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precedent do you turn over autopsy materials
like that? When I went after my

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father's autopsy materials personally, right,
I couldn't. They wouldn't hand them to

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me. They weren't gonna give them
to me. And it was twenty years

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later and my father wasn't anybody important
to anybody else. They weren't gonna give

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them to me. Now I gotta
look at them, But that was that

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was that was kind of an odd
situation, and I kind of bullied my

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way into that, believe it or
not. But uh, but but the

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truth is, I wasn't gonna walk
out of there with those or even a

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copy of them. Oh no.
But to see, here's what gets me.

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If if I got today under suspicious
circumstances, the State of North Carolina

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did an autopsy, which they would
do automatically. That doesn't become property of

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my family or my heirs. The
body and the tissues, the actual tissues,

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yes, but any photographs, X
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as part of the autopsy become part
of that file. It's a matter of

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public record. Then yeah, the
records could be sealed through a court action,

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right, but just to give somebody, oh here, I'm sorry,

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mister Kennedy. We know y'all are
big wigs, and y'all got a lot

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of political poll and a bunch of
lawyers that you can afford to sue us

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into oblivion. So we're just going
to give you all this crap. I've

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never understood that. See, and
the other thing that you can't tell me.

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I've heard these explanations one hundred times
from one hundred experts, right,

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is that there is no way in
hell that somebody in the federal government didn't

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decide to retain the negatives, Okay, didn't decide to retain a record of

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this. There is no way that
that happened. But the way it's presented

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is what we don't know how James
K. Fox got a hold of his

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set, okay, which makes me
assume there's multiple mini sets out there,

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right, It's just that Fox actually
sold them to somebody. Now, those

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were prints, they were just photos, a photo copy, but the original

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negatives and all that. I'm almost
willing to bet that there is a retained

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copy somewhere that just somebody doesn't know
how to find, or somebody doesn't want

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to find. Well, and I'll
give you an example of that. I

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had a researcher tell me about six
years ago that they went to the archives

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to see the famous Altin photo,
Okay, and it can't be found.

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M Well, the Associated placed or
stolen? Well, the Associated Press,

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I think the Associated I think the
Associated Press still has it. Yeah,

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the Associated Press does what was used
as actual ev and hearings is missing because

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they wanted, you know, the
famous marks. This is one another thing

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that Sink was was complaining about.
He actually highlighted a photo, changed the

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lighting, well, it changed the
contrast in the photo, and it actually

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brought out the second mark because everybody
was saying, oh, there's a check

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mark on it. And then there's
you know, the lawyer that was interviewing,

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I think it was Bill Frasier,
he had made there was a second

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mark on the photo and he referred
to there's one in the white and one

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in the black. And when Sink
altered the contrast on this photo, you

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could see the second mark. And
he claims that, oh no, no,

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no, no, because there's no
two marks there. And you know,

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it was it was kind of a
pretty hilarious matter between a few of

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us that here he is trying to
prove something didn't app and he does the

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exact opposite and boom, the second
mark shows up. It's a big argument,

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you know, because there was two
copies of the autionins. There was

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the copy that the Warrant Commission had, right, but there was also a

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copy that was sent to Oswalt's mother, and when she testified, she swore

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up and down that the you know, everybody thought Billy Lovelady was was Oswalt.

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You know, that was the theory
that Oswald's right there on the front

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porch. Well, her mother or
his mother was insisting that no, it

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was another person in the photo.
So they have her copy that she marked

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up during testimony, but the original
autions photo that they've used as evidence,

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nobody can find. I'm sure it's
there. It may been misplaced, or

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it could have been an instance where
someone like Fetzer went in and shoved it

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down their pants, pulling the sandy
birder and walked out with it. Who

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knows. It's just amazing. Yeah, that's that. You go to look

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for it now can't be found.
Well, that's the other weird thing is

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that when you look at the you
know, the Dallas Archives and a couple

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of places, you know that a
bunch of things were just disappeared as a

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matter of souvenirs. I mean,
just like what is her name of Geneva

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White came up with that other backyard
photo, right, and it was like,

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hey, guess what I got a
version of this? You guys don't

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whites? Yeah, yeah, Geneva
White. I met Roscoe White's kid that

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came up, Well it was actually
Roscoe's wife, Geneva had it. Yeah,

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and then you know, but later
of course, Ricky said, oh,

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you know, look that that's other
proof of this and that and whatever.

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But the thing is, Roscoe just
walked out with a photo. You

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know, we don't need this anymore, would just take it. And I

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think a bunch of stuff leaked out
all over the place. I mean,

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people at the National Archives. What's
to say there isn't you know, one

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of these guys who works there a
while hasn't also absconded with stuff or other

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let's say, less than ethical researchers
might have walked in there and walked out

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with things. I mean that that
I'm certain has happened as well. You

408
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.599
know, they walked out with originally
maybe where some of the that may be

409
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.200
where some of these copies of films
and everything come from somebody on the inside

410
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.240
making copies and sell them out the
back door. Yeah yeah, And there's

411
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.839
the thing like, yeah, that's
why to me, some people are pushing

412
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.400
to reopen the case and somebody,
you know, I think it's too far

413
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.400
gone to that. But the least
the government could do is at least follow

414
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.480
up with their damn law. Maybe
Trump will do the next time he gets

415
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.119
in, just go ahead and put
it all out there's and release every single

416
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.759
damn thing and let the chips fall
where they may. Well, that would

417
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.640
be nice, and that would be
nice every time one of these guys is

418
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.799
asked about it, you know,
will you do it? Yeah, we'll

419
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.160
do it, And they never do. You know, it never gets done.

420
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.519
And still the Biden administration still dragging
its feet, even though it has

421
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.319
released some stuff. And the funny
thing is they even release some stuff that

422
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.519
wasn't on the manifest to be released, which was funny. I don't know

423
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:01.279
if you know that, but there
was a whole bunch of documents that weren't

424
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:06.039
even like on the scheduled list of
stuff to be released, and it was

425
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.599
like, where did this come from? You know, everybody, everybody wants

426
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:14.079
to see Oswalt's tax records. I
don't know what they're going to learn from

427
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:19.400
Oswalt's tax records because any money that
he was making from the government is not

428
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.920
going to show up on a damn
ten ninety nine. You know, That's

429
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.079
what kills me about this. Oh, we got to see his tax records,

430
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.519
Well, why what is it going
to show you? He's going to

431
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:35.640
show his income from whatever job he
supposedly legitimately had any government payments to him.

432
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.279
We're not going to show up on
a ten ninety nine as a contractor

433
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.400
or a W two, plain and
simple. I mean, that stuff doesn't

434
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.759
happen. Oh, I've been spying
from the US for twenty years. I've

435
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.119
made over two billion dollars. Well, really, let us look at your

436
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.839
taxes. You think I'm going to
show you two million dollars that was paid

437
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:53.480
to me by the government for a
spine? No, no, no,

438
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.079
and then put it down. Oh
yeah, we paid these guys, you

439
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.799
know, six million dollars over this
years to spy for us. Bull I

440
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.000
mean, what is his tax records
going to show us? To show an

441
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.599
money from the government. That has
always cracked me up, by the way,

442
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.519
you're no, you're right that that
has always cracked me up. Where

443
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.039
it's like, look if he was
really getting I mean because the people that

444
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:20.519
usually assert that are like, look, he was a government agent and this

445
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.640
and that, and he was working
off the books. If you're working off

446
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.640
the books, right, and somebody's
paying you for domestic operations that you're not

447
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.119
supposed to be involved in in the
first place. They're not going to pay

448
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.240
you with you know, a check, and you're not going to be taking

449
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.400
taxes on it. It's going to
be you know, cash or gold or

450
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.519
you know, Bob Menendez style here. Oh, by the way, that

451
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.400
happened this week too. That that's
cracking me up. The the other thing.

452
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:52.200
Nobody's covering the Bob Menendez corruption trial, right, the democrat is a

453
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.720
Democrat involved. But it's hilarious because
he well, he's trying to throw his

454
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.799
wife under the bus. And now
she comes out to you know this week,

455
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.319
and oh, I have breast cancer, by the way, so they're

456
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:06.839
going to delay her separate trial.
You know, I'm like wow. But

457
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.840
meanwhile he's at least partially trying to
throw her under the bus. Yeah.

458
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:15.360
Good. It kills me over all
these years that anybody involved in this honestly

459
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.119
thinks that the government's going to kill
them a straight story. Come on,

460
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.360
it's the government. Well I love
the smoking gun document idea too, where

461
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.320
it's like we're going to get this
one document that's gonna and it's like,

462
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.880
look, we need to study these
things because yes, it'll give us insight

463
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.199
and understanding into stuff. But there's
not going to be a document that comes

464
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:40.440
out and says, look, we
the members of the Name and Organization decided

465
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.039
to kill John F. Kennedy,
and here's who we use, here's who

466
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.800
we paid, here's how we got
people those travel arrangements. You think there's

467
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.719
going to be a document, a
single thing that comes out there and says

468
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.639
this is how it was done.
Boom in a nutshell. I mean,

469
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.239
really do you think that? Because
I think it's worthy of study, all

470
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:07.800
of it, But it doesn't that
that one smoking gun idea. I mean,

471
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:13.119
you know, come on, guys, and I think the only thing,

472
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.800
even if everything was released today,
I think all it's going to do

473
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:22.000
is eliminate a lot of theories that
have been brought up over the years so

474
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:23.840
and so is involved, or so
and so this so and so. That

475
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.880
it's going to weed out a lot
of stuff. But there's not one damn

476
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.360
document out there that I think is
going to point to anything that you could

477
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:35.159
pin down to somebody and say,
see he was involved. Now just pick

478
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.880
up person. If you had one
person that you do was actually involved,

479
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:46.199
then people that actually performed the art
of journalism could start looking into who was

480
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.400
he hanging out with, who did
do business with, who was in his

481
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.559
circle, and start going out from
there. But you're not even gonna get

482
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.960
that one document to tell you this
person was definitely involved, not from the

483
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.039
government. Yeah. See, the
interesting thing is, I mean what has

484
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.760
been helpful is stuff like, Okay, now we know where Johnny Roselli was,

485
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.519
you know, as opposed to people
trying to put him in dealy plaza.

486
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.719
Now we know where this guy was. You know, now we know

487
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.480
who this guy was in contact with, because finally some of these things have

488
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.159
come out. But like you said, it's a lot more helpful in eliminating

489
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:28.760
nonsense than it is in actually building
the case, because again it's not going

490
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.679
to be like, well, here's
the one guy we know for certain was

491
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.920
definitely except of course, you know, big huge studies on Lee Harvey Oswald,

492
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.400
which you know, we get more
and more documentation on this guys.

493
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:45.559
Yeah. James Files is a good
example. When he first when his name

494
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.960
first came out, it was found
that he was in a hospital because some

495
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.280
family member or somebody was having surgery. He wasn't even in the area.

496
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.760
But what did he get changed him
too, Oh, y'all. He put

497
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.119
his teeth marks on a shell and
left it for people to find and blah

498
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.960
blah blah blah blah, like du
we already settled this long time ago.

499
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.760
He wasn't even in the state.
He was somewhere else. He was busy,

500
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.599
So let's just put that to the
side. But no, these things,

501
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.519
I don't know. It's like a
dustball starts out with a couple of

502
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.920
grains, and they pick up the
odd hair and the fuzz off the carpet

503
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.199
and this, and they grow and
they grow, and the next thing you

504
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.199
know, you got a ball of
dust under your bed. Where the hell

505
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.960
did he come from? He's something
they just generated over time. And that's

506
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.880
what this whole case is a bunch
of little dustballs that have grown and now

507
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:44.239
people want to put value in them
for informational purposes. And it's all bunk.

508
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.159
It's all bunked. Ninety nine percent
of what you read out there on

509
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:53.320
the Kennedy case is bunk. Sadly, I can't argue with you too much.

510
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.679
I mean again, like I said, the examination of these things so

511
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.280
far has helped us eliminate a lot
of nonsense that's it. But it hasn't.

512
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:06.199
It hasn't. I keep hoping,
I keep hoping, But you know

513
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.519
it's difficult, man. And the
dust bunny circumstance. I get that too,

514
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.039
because after a while, you know, when a dust money starts to

515
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:15.519
grow enough, I mean, after
a while, you see a little piece

516
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.039
of dust blow around. Okay,
went under the couch, went under the

517
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.320
bed. I'll get it next time
I see it. But if you keep

518
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.800
letting that thing grow, after a
while, it's about as big as a

519
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.599
muskrat. And then you're not sure
what you're catching out of the corner of

520
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.719
your eye when the ceiling van grabs
it. I gotta tell you it's it's

521
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.800
just like that. Anyway. We
got a call her. I have found

522
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.280
living a house with hardwood floors,
and you'll see exactly how dust buddies generate,

523
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.679
right, and they'll travel right.
I mean, you know, somebody

524
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.679
shuts the door real hard. All
of a sudden, one goes under one

525
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.599
couch from you know, under one
couch to the other, and you think

526
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.920
maybe you got a mouse, but
no, it's a dust this house here,

527
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.639
I'm trying to figure out where the
hell all this dust is coming from.

528
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.679
I mean I could write a move
of the dust buddy that ate Chicago.

529
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.400
I mean, I can script it
just sitting here watching how this stuff

530
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.840
accumulates. And I know I generate
a lot of dust in remodeling, but

531
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.199
I've got a pretty damn good shot
back, and I go over a lot

532
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:16.199
of stuff. It doesn't help shift
back in today at eight o'clock in the

533
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.920
morning. You got dust at five
o'clock at night. And I don't know

534
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.840
where they hell it's coming from,
fair enough, So anyway, three one

535
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.199
nine, five two seven five zero
one six. We got one caller on

536
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.800
the line, anybody else he wants
to join while we're live. It's about

537
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.880
forty minutes after the hour, after
eight o'clock, yeah, Eastern, all

538
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.360
the way up until we start the
Age of Transitions at ten pm. And

539
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.280
I think Uncle will take calls.
But I don't think Aaron's gonna take him

540
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.079
again tonight. I don't know.
I didn't get the directive yet, but

541
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.079
that's where he's going. And we
did the one hour Sira wec thing.

542
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.480
I did that by myself and played
some clips from Cyril himself, because I

543
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.840
think that was the best way to
pay tribute to him. Is to just

544
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.840
let him speak one more time.
Anyways, looks like we got I think

545
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.800
this is Jimmy James on the line. Jimmy is that you? Yeah,

546
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.000
it's me. Can you hear me? All right? Yeah? You sound

547
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.000
okay, no crackle this time,
So go for it. Man, what's

548
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:22.960
on your mind? Well? I
agree with you guys on those documents.

549
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:27.480
I don't think that you're gonna solve
your way out of paper sack. It's

550
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:32.159
just no. But you got to
agree. It does help us to eliminate

551
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.480
a lot of crap if you can
start to place. You know, like

552
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.960
I said, we know where Johnny
Roselli was. Now you know what I

553
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:43.039
mean, if he was under surveillance, and if this guy was under surveillance.

554
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.800
I mean, the FBI is not
going to cover for them to go

555
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.639
to Dally Plaza, you know,
if they're four states away, or if

556
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.199
they're sitting in Vegas or Los Angeles
or et cetera, et cetera. Right,

557
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.599
I mean, just like the guy
that they keep claiming from Georgia was

558
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.199
supposed to be in Dealely Plaza.
Good. Yeah, they have been a

559
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.079
godsend. I mean, no doubt
about that. I mean, otherwise people

560
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.719
with Christ still be writing books about
Howard Hunt. Yeah right, where are

561
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.840
they? Who knows? Is stay
tuned, you know, toward the end

562
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.079
of the year you'll probably see more. But yeah, no, I agree

563
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.559
with you. And Glad, glad
you're you're here in our points. You

564
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.199
got anything else on your mind tonight
or you want to talk about this some

565
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:31.719
more, It's all on you,
uh BPT. I watched a video from

566
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:39.800
the Nixon Library that was made about
ten fifteen years ago called the Miss the

567
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:47.000
Mysteries of Watergate something like that,
and the guy in it was kind of

568
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.079
a minor attorney at the time,
working through Nick Son or some such thing,

569
00:41:53.440 --> 00:42:00.360
and interestingly he brought up he says
Howard Dean was behind the layoffs.

570
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:08.079
So I would assume also to miss
hump hmm, I could agree with that.

571
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:14.760
I mean Dean, well, Dean
was up to his neck in it

572
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.719
until he thought they were going to
come after him, and then he started

573
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.880
squealing like a rat. And I
have to agree with Gordon Lyddy on that

574
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.559
he was a rat. He was
trying to cover his own butt as soon

575
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.960
as he thought they were tossing him
under the bus. Then he said exactly

576
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.840
I'm going out, Well, I'm
going out by taking all you with me.

577
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.599
It's my and I don't know if
they covered this, Jimmy in the

578
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.480
in what you watched, but they
had a slush fund that they were paying

579
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:50.000
for the guys that went into the
Watergate, covering their costs. They had

580
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.880
quite a bit of cash to float
around. I think I've read something it

581
00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:00.000
was over two million just for dirty
tricks and and that didn't want to go

582
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.760
on the books. And it's my
understanding that that's where the money she was

583
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:12.719
found with came from. It will
cover any of that. Yeah. At

584
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.440
one point on one of the tapes, right, Dean says to him,

585
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.800
look, I think these people are
going to cost you like a million dollars

586
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.440
over the course of a certain amount
of time, and Nixon says something like,

587
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.800
well, I know where we can
get that. I mean, I

588
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.800
don't think he actually says where they
can get it from, but he says,

589
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:31.760
I know where we can get that. We can get that done,

590
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.719
and then he changes on something.
The two million comes up in my mind

591
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.599
that that that that was a slush
fund that they had readily available. I'm

592
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.639
sure they had access to other money
just through some of the backers of Nixon

593
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.239
for certain things. But for some
reason that that amount of two million to

594
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.000
kick around with kims up and I
don't know where I got it from it

595
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.800
maybe, but I know that at
one point Dean literally says, a million

596
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.239
is what we need now. It
could be that they needed more after that,

597
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.000
or it could be that they were
already through the two million, or

598
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.440
they were working on that two million. He was worried they were going to

599
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.320
run out. I don't know about. You know, the buying power of

600
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.760
a million dollars in the seventies,
it's like cash. Well, that's why

601
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.199
you could take care of a whole
team with a million dollars. I mean

602
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.159
today, could you take care of
ten guys with a million dollars? Probably?

603
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:23.840
Not? You know about with Biden
Biden's inflaced Oh hell no, man,

604
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:28.119
I mean please, you couldn't even
buy Domino's pizza for her families for

605
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.480
a year with a million dollars probably, you know what I mean? Yeah?

606
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:36.559
Yeah, so yeah, absolutely no. Would Bidenomics forget it? I

607
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.119
mean, what do you need?
Ten million? Maybe million bucks apiece,

608
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.000
but not no million dollars for the
team. Now in nineteen seventy one or

609
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.519
whatever. That might have worked million
dollars. You know, let's see what

610
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.280
the equivalency is. Let me look
that up. If they tell you the

611
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.480
truth about that, which you know. That was another weird story this week

612
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:59.840
about the tenth of a percent of
change in the inflation, and they were

613
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:01.079
like like, oh great, this
is great, and then the stock market

614
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.360
rocketed. I think today it closed
out even higher, like on its ultimate

615
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.440
high today, right based on the
news that, oh the you know,

616
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.039
the inflation is slowing down by a
tenth of a percent. It went down.

617
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.599
I don't know. I mean,
you feeling that buying power coming to

618
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.960
you this week? I'm not not
at all. Yeah, I mean,

619
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.719
you know, did it change your
price of you know, of Dave's single

620
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:28.960
at Wendy's. It didn't as far
as I know. You got to go

621
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:35.440
ahead. But they always released these
crazy figures and then they'll alter it a

622
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:42.199
week two and then the newspaper I
have it on page twenty five. Yeah,

623
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.079
but if you can even find a
newspaper anymore, I mean, you

624
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.239
know, that's the other weird thing
going on. Anyways. Yeah, so

625
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.280
here we are still trying to sort
this out Watergate, though, man,

626
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.960
a million dollars could take care of
a team in nineteen seventy or seventy one

627
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.079
one, though, I think,
but you know, seventy two by then,

628
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.199
Yeah, by the time I was
born, I think a million dollars

629
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:12.639
was still quite substantial. Oh let's
see, here's a CPI inflation calculator says

630
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.400
that a million dollars in nineteen seventy
one is worth about seven million, seven

631
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:21.199
hundred and forty one nine and twenty
five dollars in ninety three cents today.

632
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:25.320
Yeah, so approaching eight million.
And yeah, I can imagine that eight

633
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.000
million dollars to take care of that
team for you know, a year or

634
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.960
two. Yeah, maybe that might
work. I mean, if you're paying

635
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.039
legal fees off a different fund,
because you know, lawyers are expensive,

636
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.920
but just paying their basic expenses,
keeping them on hold, making sure their

637
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.880
families aren't starving while they're locked up. Yeah, you could do that with

638
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.039
seven eight million dollars, why not? But a million back then take some

639
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.960
research and see if Liddy ever said
exactly how much he got paid for his

640
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:59.320
part. Well, he was more
of a true believer, I you know,

641
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.360
well he was a company man.
Yeah, I mean, so I

642
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.920
don't know if he would have ever
revealed what he actually got or if he

643
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.920
was even in on all the slush
funds, because you know, at a

644
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.320
certain point he was just like,
I'm gonna do my time. Uh.

645
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.440
And I don't know if you know
they saw him as breaking off from the

646
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.599
group and not you know, getting
involved in the group discussions anymore. I

647
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:30.079
don't know. It's an odd thing, you know. Lyddy was a unique

648
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.119
character, I'll tell you that for
sure. Very similar to that guy on

649
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:42.199
that HBO special. Yeah, he
was in that CI boy. Why was

650
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.519
he playing with CIA boys anyway?
Yeah, that's a really good question.

651
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.599
He was. He basic imol.
He went to jail for conspiracy, burglory

652
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.800
and illegal wire tapping. So I'm
sure some of the some of the assets

653
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:02.239
used in what they were doing came
from the CIA. Yeah. I think

654
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.559
what happened there, Jimmy, is
that you know, it's not about FBI

655
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.719
and CIA at that point, because
some of the guys that Hunt assembled are

656
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.519
not exactly at the top of the
CIA's list anymore either. These are not

657
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.760
A listers, right, These are
guys that should functionally know how to do

658
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.960
stuff, but they're no longer you
know, favorable with the agencies that they

659
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:30.079
were taught by, you know what
I mean, except McCord. McCord might

660
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.280
have still been favorable, But the
rest of those guys, I think they

661
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.960
had sort of not had a lot
of steady work because they weren't as useful

662
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:43.320
as they once were, And I
think this was their opportunity to get back

663
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:50.280
in sort of, you know,
be part of the President's organization of intelligence

664
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.639
people. So that's a separate thing
from the FBI, CIA or any of

665
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:59.039
those proper agencies. It was like
an independent contractor kind of thing. So

666
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.880
why not Lyddy, Why not an
FBI guy? Why not an o NI

667
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:07.079
guy? Why not a CIA guy? Why not you know, these guys

668
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:13.679
if they have some skills and they
can still be useful and they're not directly

669
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.400
employed by one of those agencies any
longer. You know, it's sort of

670
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.119
like Gordon Novell, who was a
weird character, that guy. You know,

671
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.920
he's constantly getting involved in all kinds
of weird stuff, but nobody wanted

672
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:30.480
him to be, you know,
a full on agent for the CIA or

673
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:36.760
anything like that. He was fairly
skilled with electronic surveillance allegedly, but you

674
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.559
know, outside of that. And
then later on he gets involved with what's

675
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.280
the guy with the car, Oh
man, the the car that's in Back

676
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.840
to the Future, Oh, Delian
DeLorean, Right, he gets involved with

677
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:55.119
DeLorean and the Independent car company.
And I mean he was again another guy

678
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:01.360
for hire who had some skills that
were still useful well in espionage in general,

679
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.760
but uh, you know, no
longer would he be He couldn't be

680
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.079
hired by one of the agencies,
you know, like regular So the Cubans.

681
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.719
The Cubans were kind of uh yeah, that makes sense. They they

682
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.840
didn't have a lot to do right
then, because no one would let them

683
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.719
mess around with at the time.
Well, right, because as soon as

684
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:30.840
you know, Kennedy dies and Bobby's
out, Johnson doesn't give a crap anymore.

685
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.559
So he's got no use for them. He tells the CIA, Yeah,

686
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.760
forget all that crap, and uh, these guys are sitting out there

687
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.360
going, well, what about our
funding, what about keeping us going?

688
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.039
What about you know, No,
we don't have anything. So you know,

689
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.559
they were sitting there again, maybe
they were partially trained, maybe they

690
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.320
were you know, partially in the
know at one point, but no longer

691
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:58.960
useful to the the current operations,
so you know, the unemployed contractors of

692
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:07.400
the UH, of the intelligence community. Basically, right, McCord was found

693
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.440
religion while he was in and came
out a pastor or something. No,

694
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.880
no, no, no, no, McCord was the comedy, that's right,

695
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:24.079
Charles. Yeah, he's the one. Yeah. Colson's the one who

696
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:29.199
even wrote a book about becoming born
again. I think after his Watergate experiences.

697
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.000
I'll double check on that, but
I'm pretty sure that's Coulson who writes

698
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.639
about it. Yeah. Well,
no, as soon as Jimmy said that,

699
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.239
yeah, he was the comedy,
I was Yeah, I realized I

700
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:46.519
was wrong. It was Coulson,
Charles Coulson. And it was funny what

701
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:51.679
came out since then, though,
you look at what went on behind the

702
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.920
scenes. You know, Nixon had
this group of plumbers which which actually got

703
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.000
started back during the Pentagon papers when
they were real lease, that's when they

704
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.000
came up with this little group to
start plugging leaks and see what they could

705
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:08.480
do to control the damage out of
it. Because you know Nixon, Nixon

706
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.679
pulled that we're going to get out
of Vietnam, but he waited until second

707
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:17.599
term to start trying to put that
into effect. When the Pentagon papers came

708
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.440
out, it kind of ruined everything
in that, you know that people were

709
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.960
seeing what the government was actually you
know, giving them a snow job on

710
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.239
and it was really the first time
what was it was at the Was it

711
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:38.119
the Washington Post that went to court
over it? And after winning their court

712
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:45.239
case was able to continue publishing on
the Pentagon? Yeah, yeah, they

713
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.360
were. They were held up in
court somebody was suing them over the release

714
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.679
of the information, and the going
wait a minute, you know, we

715
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.239
didn't steal this, This stuff was
brought to us. We can publish this.

716
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.840
And it was, you know,
a landmark ruling that still is in

717
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.280
effect today and which kind of gets
me over this Julian Thessance thing. You

718
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.719
know, he basically published stuff that
came to him. They want to accuse

719
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.960
him of being part of the party
that got the stuff, and that's the

720
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.039
hang up on him. You know, it's suddenly, oh, Washington Post,

721
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:21.599
you know, they ran this story
about Watergate and and you know,

722
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:23.400
we've got to see a movie out
of it. All the president's men came

723
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.639
out of the whole damn deal.
Well, and then now suddenly so many

724
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.639
years later, Assance does the same
thing. Oh well, this's accuse him

725
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:36.000
of being actually involved in getting the
information and then we can come down on

726
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.599
him. It just kills me the
way the journalists aren't taking up for somebody

727
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.440
over this crap. Right. So
Nixon turns around and tries to you know,

728
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.880
pretty much squash the guy who dumped
the Pentagon papers out there to begin

729
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.880
with, right, and that's the
original operation. But then, you know,

730
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.800
but then it gets involved with the
whole committee to re elect the president,

731
00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:00.920
right, the creep thing. And
like I said, these are guys

732
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:07.440
who needed something to do, and
you know they had some skills. Uh

733
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.400
again, you know, the one
guy was an instructor for black bike operations

734
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.400
of the CIA, which packs me
up forgives me. You know, people

735
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:20.639
don't realize that the government, the
citizens really had no idea what was going

736
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.719
behind the scenes, and what you
know, the Pentagon papers started it.

737
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.480
Watergate kind of let them know that, you know, everything that you think

738
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:31.400
your government is is not all honky
dory. It opened a lot of people's

739
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.400
eye. Well, it took the
mask off and people were able to see

740
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:39.119
the government for what it was actually
was, which I'm amazed that people haven't

741
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:43.199
gotten more critical of what the government
has been doing the past, you know,

742
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.400
forty years. Well, when you
add that thing, yeah, see

743
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:50.559
when you add that to the trouble
over Vietnam and you know, the information

744
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.440
about the Meli massacre, you know, reaching the masses and all that kind

745
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:59.000
of stuff, right, I mean, it gets to a certain point where

746
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:00.960
it's like, I guess Dixon wanted
it all shut down, you know,

747
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.440
shut the hell up. Stop telling
the dirty laundry, whether it should be

748
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.320
dirty or not as irrelevant, and
he wanted to shut things down. And

749
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.480
this is the point, right.
The plumbers were there to plug the leaks,

750
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.119
and that was the thing. Stop
leaking this stuff. I mean,

751
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.320
we don't need to make it any
worse. I don't want more protests against

752
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.159
me, you know. I mean
Johnson pretty much left town and with his

753
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.280
head hanging because he didn't want to
deal with this. I don't want this

754
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:30.199
crap going either. I wanted to
stop. And you know, you don't

755
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.239
give the American public more negativity to
chew on. Maybe it'll stop. I

756
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.079
think, you know, I think
that's why Johnson didn't want to run.

757
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.199
I think that's why he bowed out. He I think he knew this stuff

758
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.599
was going to hit the fan,
probably one which I figured if he went

759
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:52.599
away, people would leave him alone, right And as his well it didn't.

760
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.000
It didn't have to work for too
long. He was dead not long

761
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.880
after, right, so you know
he didn't make it that long after that.

762
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:06.880
Yeah, that was the end of
it. But now I concur there.

763
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:08.719
But Nixon, I think felt like
he could stop this, you know,

764
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:13.559
put a stop to the mess that
kept coming from it. But who

765
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:15.079
knows. You know, it's hard
to really put yourself in the mind of

766
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:21.159
a guy like Richard Nixon because and
still I think he was unfairly trampled on

767
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.760
by history here. But you know
that's me. What can I say.

768
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.800
I mean his famous line that you
know America thinks that their president is a

769
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.480
crook. Well I'm not a crook. Well yeah he was. I mean,

770
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.440
just go ahead and be at what
you are. He wasn't about to

771
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.400
do it. But you know,
Nixon got caught up in a time where

772
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:43.039
things were the news. At that
time, we were limited as to what

773
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.760
we would get. You either got
it in a newspaper or you got it

774
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.320
on your three major networks at night
and of course, you know, they

775
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.440
were all controlled by the government anyway, so they're only going to let certain

776
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:57.719
things out. But yeah, Nixon
was a crook. He just happened to

777
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.800
not get his caught on everything that
was going and all. But I think

778
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:06.679
that's when the shade got lifted and
people were finally able to see. Now,

779
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.480
whether they wanted to accept it or
not is another thing, but they

780
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:15.239
were finally able to see that your
government isn't always working in your best interests.

781
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.480
See. But by comparison, I
still say that Nixon did stuff that

782
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.280
he really didn't think he would ever
have to pay a consequence for because he

783
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.320
thought it was quite normal. I
don't think he saw it as you know.

784
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.320
And that's the thing, like when
he's on the Frost interview going,

785
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:34.360
well, if the president does it, it's not illegal. I really think

786
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.840
he believed that it wasn't some justification
he was pulling out of thin air.

787
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:42.039
He really thought he was entitled to
do what he was doing. But anyway,

788
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.559
well, there are certain things that
if the president does it, it's

789
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.880
not illegal. He just pushed that
boundary so far that I think he thought,

790
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.639
no matter what he did, it
was not illegal. Yeah, it's

791
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:59.159
just I don't know ego. Well, you're dealing with ego with these people,

792
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.960
and Nixon sure had one. But
even so he figured that, you

793
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:06.280
know, look, I don't have
all of the dirty laundry these other guys

794
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.079
had. I mean, even Eisenhower
had had a mistress, right, I

795
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:13.599
mean, but he didn't have anything, you know, he didn't have any

796
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.320
of that. So he figured,
look, I'm not I'm not a boozer.

797
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.920
I'm not doing drugs. I'm not
banging Marilyn Monroe. I'm not you

798
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.360
know, with the Captain whatever her
name is, that you know, the

799
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.000
secret woman that comes in is supposedly
a military aid, is actually his mistress,

800
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.639
you know. In the case Eisenhower, none of that. I don't

801
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:31.880
do any of that crap. So
what the hell am I getting my balls

802
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.760
busted for? I don't know.
That's the way I figured Nixon saw it.

803
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.960
But anyway, let's see how you
see it. In the next hour.

804
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:43.559
The next segment on the Ocelli Effect
Friday Night Open Mic join us three

805
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:49.480
one nine. Uh, sorry about
that, I got distracted for a second.

806
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.800
There three one nine five two seven
five zero one six. That's three

807
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.719
one nine five two seven five zero
one six. The Ocelli Effect will continue

808
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:34.760
on the Friday Night Open Mike after
this. The War State by Michael Swanson

809
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.320
explains the great national transformation that took
place and put the Kennedy presidency in the

810
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:44.760
context of the times and reveals never
before published information about the Cuban missile crisis.

811
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:49.079
President Kennedy would not have been assassinated
if he had been president two hundred

812
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.480
years ago. His assassination took place
in the context of the Cold War and

813
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.440
the rise of the national security state. Before World War II, the United

814
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.320
States was a continental republic. In
the decade that followed, it became an

815
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:06.239
imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis
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now at Ocelli dot Com. I
got a little mixed up there in the

840
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playback, but anyway, we are
still live here about four and a half

841
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:45.679
minutes after the hour of nine o'clock
PM in the Eastern time zone, and

842
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:50.119
we're still live taking your calls three
one nine five two seven five zero one

843
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.280
six b Pete. I didn't check
in with you before I went back to

844
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:57.159
live because I kind of had to
jump on it. But uh, yeah,

845
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:01.519
weird things happening around the old homestead
over here. Well, the reason

846
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:08.079
I asked you home, I've had
some semi naked news. Apparently we've got

847
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:12.639
uh cool. Georgia police arrested a
man who is accused of ejaculating on a

848
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:17.719
stranger inside the Whole food stores.
Oh Cold County, there's there's a Whole

849
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.559
food Wait a minute, Wait a
minute, wait a minute, whoa hold

850
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:26.079
on? Yeah? Oh seriously,
seriously. When I first saw this,

851
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:29.840
I thought, what how do you
do that? What the hell I mean

852
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.159
talking about taking a shot at somebody? Wasn't the Whole Foods? That's What

853
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:39.360
got me was the whole there's a
whole food for you. I looked at

854
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.480
up. The Calb County is right
next to it. In fact, ten

855
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.239
percent of Atlanta bleeds over into the
Calb County it does. Okay, that's

856
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:51.960
weird because I thought that was another
county that that's like real recognizable, like

857
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:58.960
Cobb or something like that. But
anyway, the Cab is partially UH Atlanta's

858
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.599
in Decab. Yeah, ten percent
is on the eastern side. Ten percent

859
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:08.119
of it falls into UH, into
the Cab County. The county seat at

860
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:13.400
the Cow County is decatered. Okay, so right next to Atlanta. But

861
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:15.440
when I saw this story, I
was thinking, you know, Peachtree Street,

862
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.360
it's got to be connected to Atlanta
somehow. So actually, you know,

863
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:24.199
ten percent of the tounty is located
in this can cross this county line.

864
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.599
But the story and this is I
got some whole foods for you.

865
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:33.000
All right, Hell, let's get
into it. Let me read the full

866
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:41.000
story here. This is carried by
UH let's see the Postmillennial dot com and

867
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.159
reported by Katie Davis Court, who's
in Seattle, Washington. Of all places,

868
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.480
Georgia police arrested a man who's accused
of ejaculating on a stranger inside a

869
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:57.400
whole food store. Troy Callist twenty
eight, was arrested on Monday and has

870
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:01.280
been booked into the calv County Jail
on artists that include sexual battery and publican

871
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.679
decency. The incident that court at
a Whole food store located at five thousand

872
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:11.360
and one pe Street Boulevard near Claremont
Road. The victim, doctor Sabine Lavelle,

873
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.639
told Chambley police that the suspect had
ejaculated on her. Says, I

874
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:19.719
see this gentleman walking down the aisle
who's pretending to be shopping, and he's

875
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.960
holding a basket. Hey, look
kind of like a normal gentleman, late

876
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.920
twenties, early thirties. Nothing like
extra suspicious about them, Lavelle recanned.

877
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.880
I've bent over to grab the chips, and as I was doing that,

878
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.519
I felt something wet and warm on
my back. Okay, hold on,

879
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:38.559
hold on, hold hey, wait, wait, wait wait, wait,

880
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.679
hold on a second, because I
pulled up this article. First of all,

881
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.400
before you get into the rest of
this description, let me catch my

882
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:53.000
breast because it's just messed up.
But also, can these people not write

883
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:59.000
English? At the what is this
the post millennial because look the victim,

884
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.280
doctor Sibbie told uh Chambley police that
the suspect had a jat. Okay,

885
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:11.119
Lavelle recanted to Fox five. Now, when you recan't, doesn't that mean

886
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:15.000
you actually pull back your story if
you recan't, yes, okay. When

887
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.519
you recant a confession, it means
oh no, I was lying. Well,

888
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:24.840
yeah, if you recan't, they
meant to say, or recounted maybe

889
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:29.360
right, yeah, recounted yes,
okay. So the first problem is these

890
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:33.039
guys are not writing in proper English
for sure, because she recanted the story.

891
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.800
Okay, so she's taken it back
to recant. Now, just from

892
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:43.199
from the Oxford Language Dictionary, say
that one no longer holds an opinion or

893
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:49.239
belief, especially one considered uh heretical. Okay, so it means to pull

894
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:54.079
back a belief. So, in
other words, according to that statement,

895
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.679
she's pulling back this story. But
that's not what they meant to say here

896
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:02.960
now, next paragraph. Because I
pulled up the article, I had to

897
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.320
see this for myself. And there's
a picture of the guy in the article

898
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:11.920
too, by the way, at
the Whole Foods where it's already you know

899
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.039
pricey to go in there. Look
at what else you gotta deal with?

900
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.760
Holy crap. Anyway, I'm sorry, please continue with the article now.

901
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:26.840
But just wow, Well, I
mean, the Whole Foods is known for

902
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:32.079
their you know, organic products that
they sell. So okay, where else

903
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:38.319
would you hear something like this?
I would figure this. I'll put a

904
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:40.960
link to the article in the room. But look, you've been to the

905
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.760
Piggy Wiggling near my house. I
expect this kind of thing at the Piggly

906
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.279
Wiggling near my house. You've been
there, right, Hey, I am

907
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:50.399
not I am not gonna let you
be smirched. The name of Pigley as

908
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:56.680
a Southern institution that's known for its
high quality meats and low prices. But

909
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.119
okay, all right, pig in
general is one thing. But the Pigley

910
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:04.520
Wiggling near my house. Tell me
that if I told you an assault like

911
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:08.560
this took place at the one near
my house, you'd go, yeah,

912
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:10.800
okay, I get it. I
could see it, yeah, right,

913
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.960
Or if I told you this happened
at the McDonald's, which, by the

914
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:15.439
way, did I ever tell you
this story about the lady that lived across

915
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:19.479
the street from us that like was
having beef with us, and then uh,

916
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:23.840
oh, okay, real quick.
What happened is when we were living

917
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.119
in the trailer park, at one
point a black family moved across the way

918
01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:31.840
from us and was told by somebody
else in the park that we were very,

919
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:36.600
very racist, and that we were
a big problem for them because we

920
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.840
were highly racist, okay, and
that we were picking on their kids because

921
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.920
we're racist. Anyways, it finally
got straightened out when we wound up talking

922
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:50.720
to them directly ourselves. But these
people were of a certain mindset, and

923
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:56.119
I'll tell you how much of a
mindset they were of. The woman was

924
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.279
working at the circle k down here, which you've also been to, right

925
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:04.159
by my house, and she went
and left work to go get food for

926
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:09.359
her and her kids at the McDonald's. Okay, they made her wait for

927
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:15.600
French fries so long that she got
pissed and shot up the McDonald's. Okay,

928
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:23.960
And this she thought was reasonable,
to the point of she went,

929
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:26.880
now you know where the McDonald's is. That's right by my house, right

930
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:29.960
and you know where the circle k
is. Now, think about this.

931
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:32.640
She went with her kids shot up
the McDonald's because they didn't give her her

932
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:39.920
fries quick enough, then drove back
ready for this to work at the circle

933
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:42.840
K just down the street. And
not like I'm gonna flee, I'm gonna

934
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:45.000
disappear, No, I'm just I'm
going back to work now. I shot

935
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:48.199
up to McDonald's. I proved my
point and went back to work at the

936
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.720
Circle K with her kids and everything. We go down to the circle K,

937
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:56.680
okay, just to go get cigarettes
or whatever, and they're putting her

938
01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:00.159
SUV up on a flatbed and taking
it as evidence because she just shot up

939
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.000
the McDonald's. Meanwhile, like I
said, a couple of days before,

940
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:08.000
we had a near miss, Like
I was thinking she was gonna shoot up

941
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:13.119
our house because they were worried that
we were these big time racists picking on

942
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.920
them for being black. Okay,
I'm not kidding. This is not a

943
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.520
made up story. You can ask
missus O about it anytime you want.

944
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:24.039
But I'm just trying to tell you
something here. That's the kind of neighborhood

945
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:29.319
I'm in. Okay, so it
would not be a surprise if this occurred

946
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:32.600
at the Pigley Wiggley or the Family
Dollar over here. Okay. Well,

947
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.600
they sort of remind me the next
time we go for burgers late at night

948
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:42.000
to wear my kevlar vest. Well, that's why we went to the burger

949
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.560
I think we went to Burger King, didn't we. Yeah? Yeah,

950
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:53.760
because it's in a better neighborhood.
I'm not kidding. Okay, anyway,

951
01:11:55.039 --> 01:12:00.760
this is all right, So back
to this story from me from the post

952
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:05.000
millennial. Oh my god, the
Whole Foods. There is a Whole Foods

953
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:08.840
like on the edge of making by
the way, And there's one of these

954
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.760
other like it's a Whole Foods knockoff, sort of one of these, you

955
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.319
know, natural grocery stores. Super
expensive. I can't afford the shop there,

956
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.760
and I imagine this one is super
expensive too, which is why I'm

957
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:25.680
a little shocked at the clientele.
But please continue on with this Lady's this

958
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:30.439
lady Lavelle, who she did not
recant her statement, even though Fox five

959
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.760
says she recanted her statement. Yeah, please, please go please. She

960
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:38.560
bet over to grab some potato chips, Yeah, she says. I bet

961
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:42.199
over to grab the chips, and
as I was doing that, I felt

962
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.279
something like wet and warm on my
back. So I put my hand on

963
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:49.399
the small of my back and then
I saw that it was like this gooey

964
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.960
white substance. And I turn around
and I see this guy looking at me

965
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:59.119
and he zips his pants up.
The victim said, oh god, I

966
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.880
don't know if I can put the
on YouTube. Now. Okay, I'm

967
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:05.000
not sure because of that description alone, but yeah, go ahead. Oh

968
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:09.239
whoa, you know what's really funny
here the next part. Go ahead.

969
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:14.199
Yeah. This is the final sentence
of the story. Lavelle the seat on

970
01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:19.439
surveillance video footage chasing the suspect out
of the store. Oh my god.

971
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:27.680
And I wonder if that tell me
that footage is not online somewhere. Is

972
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:31.520
that on TikTok? That's gotta be
on TikTok? Oh wow, I don't

973
01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:42.199
know. Let me let me search
for videos. Here. I built something

974
01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.640
warm and went on my back and
I noticed, Ah, I'd love to

975
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:50.399
recant that whole visual I just got
in my head. And meanwhile, there's

976
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:55.279
a picture of the suspect at the
top of the article when it blurred out

977
01:13:55.319 --> 01:14:00.119
whole foods behind them. Oh my
god, what I have to give Fox

978
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.279
Let's see, I can't find a
video, but I have to give Fox

979
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:10.159
five Atlanta. Yeah, credit for
the way they describe this man pleasure's self

980
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:17.319
leaves bodily fluids on shopper. Police. Chamblin police say a man performed a

981
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.960
sexual act on himself in the middle
of the whole store and left his bottle

982
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:27.279
fluids on a victim. I mean, and what are you gonna say to

983
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:31.079
that when you go to court.
I mean, I wasn't aiming for your

984
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:38.479
honor. I just well, I
don't see any video for this story other

985
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.720
than what the news has got.
I guess Fox five Atlanta might have a

986
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:46.600
wow, you know, footage of
somebody standing out front with the microphone saying,

987
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:49.319
and here we are at the whole
food store where so and so was

988
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:55.680
arrested. This is crazy. Yeah, somebody in the chatroom is saying,

989
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:58.399
you know, anybody pulled that is
looking to get themselves killed. You know,

990
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:02.000
I'm sure if that lady will not
alone, somebody might have tried to

991
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.640
shoot that guy. I guess she
didn't have a gun, but she went

992
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.880
running after him. And that's the
end of the story. As well as

993
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:14.159
a good thing it didn't happen to
your neighbor. Oh man, she definitely

994
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:18.119
she would have shot up the whole
joint. I'm telling you, Yeah,

995
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:23.319
they made me wait for fries and
she thought she was just the funniest part

996
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:28.760
about all that is she did not
like understand why she was in jail afterwards

997
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:32.439
either. It's like, anyway,
this guy might say, you know what,

998
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:40.640
I didn't mean to hit her.
I don't know. I didn't realize

999
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.960
she was in my line of fire. See now that's not a fair Okay,

1000
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:45.720
there's an unfair question in the chat
room. Was she hot? Maybe

1001
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.880
he couldn't help himself. That's not
right. Guys. Come on, I

1002
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:53.920
mean, you you can't be in
public and not see I mean, you

1003
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.800
see a hot girl and you can't
you can't, like, you know,

1004
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:02.840
at least go into the bathroom to
go handle yourself. Literally the hell,

1005
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:09.039
oh my god, I can't believe
you dug up this story for naked News.

1006
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:13.159
It's partially naked. It was on
the news site that I look at,

1007
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.560
and they kind of cover every topic
that they can find, so I

1008
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:20.119
was surprised. But you know,
when you think about Whole Foods and some

1009
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:25.159
of the nut jobs that go there, I seem a fitting spot. Well

1010
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:33.399
she got covered anyway, Yikes,
what a horrifying story like? Let me

1011
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:41.680
ask you a question. If this
happened to you or somebody you were with,

1012
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.560
do you think that you'd have the
ability to process this and react after

1013
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.359
you? Like, I'm surprised she
had the wherewithal to run after him.

1014
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:53.800
She's like, wait a minute,
I'm wet, it's warm, it's sticky

1015
01:16:53.960 --> 01:17:00.520
like ah, and she went and
ran after him. I'm speechless. How

1016
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.079
long did the guys stand there?
Like? Did he? He? Hey?

1017
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:06.840
Listen, I couldn't help myself.
Can I get your number? You

1018
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:15.800
know? Again? I don't know
if I should put this on YouTube?

1019
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:20.239
Am I gonna get in trouble?
There's no telling. I'm trying to look

1020
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:27.039
up doctor level into cal County to
see if we can find a picture of

1021
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.079
her. But as soon as I
mean, I do a search for doctor

1022
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.960
Lavell to Calb County and everything that
comes up as man charged with sexual battery

1023
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:39.399
after a leg incident. Well.
The other thing is, can you imagine

1024
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:44.880
wanting to talk to the TV news
about this? Like I like, hey,

1025
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:50.000
newspeople, I'll tell you what happened. I don't know if I'd be

1026
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:55.640
able to talk about it. Well
all right, well, I mean the

1027
01:17:55.880 --> 01:18:00.359
WSB, Yeah, is that a
station down there? I think it's a

1028
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:05.880
I think that's what he called up
there. What's that more expensive town.

1029
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:13.760
It's probably north of here, WSB. Okay, God, was just wondering.

1030
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:15.720
I mean, their headline on their
footage on the news story is woman

1031
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:21.680
screams for help, chases after man
who assaulted her at Whole Foods. So

1032
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:27.399
they're focused on the WSB TV is
Yeah, it's in Atlanta station. Okay,

1033
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.239
so that yeah, that's north of
Their other story is man charged with

1034
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:34.680
sexual battery after woman chases it down
in Metro Atlanta Whole Foods. Yeah,

1035
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:40.760
well that WSB might be the Sinclair
station here. I wonder what kind of

1036
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:46.319
bond we just put under. We're
gonna MSN story here. We'll see if

1037
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:48.600
we can find out what his bail
was. I mean, I guess that's

1038
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:55.800
sexual assaults. Yeah, sexual batteries
what they charged him with. Oh the

1039
01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:58.800
series, well, yeah, publican
decency because he had it out. You

1040
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.520
know, that's a very east forming
you know, an act on himself in

1041
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:12.239
public, which is yeah, that's
enough for indecent exposure. Oh man least

1042
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:15.239
say they have security camera video of
the incident, but I can't find where

1043
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:19.479
it's been released yet. So maybe
that'll eventually come out here shortly, but

1044
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.199
another quote of her, maybe that'll
come out. Come on, Come on,

1045
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:29.000
be Pete with the jokes, Maybe
that'll eventually come out. Yeah you

1046
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:38.640
know so? Well yeah, well, since she was covered, she says,

1047
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.359
at first I thought someone spilled coffee
on me. But then I turned

1048
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:45.039
around and saw this man zip zip
up his pants. With context clues,

1049
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:50.000
I realized what happened. Jimmy James
clues. Jimmy James, context clues.

1050
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:57.920
What do you think of this this
news story? Be Pete pound, My

1051
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:10.319
client is that woman was dressed scandalously
inappropriately. It was a public nuisance.

1052
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:15.760
It was bound to happen. Wow, she was asking for it. Huh

1053
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:23.439
how was she dressed? Well?
She she was bent over getting potato chips.

1054
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:30.159
Right according to her own story.
This is all elaborate frame by his

1055
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:35.079
enemies. Thank you, all right, fair enough, We'll put Jimmy on

1056
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:42.960
hold again. God, somebody else
call in and comment on this place.

1057
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:47.960
Could you imagine being the public defender
that gives assigned this case. See that's

1058
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.520
the thing. I can't imagine being
the news story guy handling this or interviewing

1059
01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:59.039
her, or her being willing to
tell like she apparently gave statements I would

1060
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:00.520
I don't even think I would want
I'd be like, ook, I ain't

1061
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:05.359
talking about this. Oh see,
the last thing I'd want to do is

1062
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.159
get up there and talk about something
that happened like that. I mean some

1063
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:14.560
people, I don't know. Some
people just have no no boundaries. I

1064
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.159
mean, would you really want to
discuss with five news stations you know,

1065
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:20.760
parked outside to out? Man?
Can we get a quote about the alleged

1066
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:27.239
ejaculation? I mean, come on, I just you're I'm like you,

1067
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:29.439
I'd walk away from it. And
I don't want to talk to a soul.

1068
01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:32.720
I'll see you in gord I.
I seem to have a Skype message

1069
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:40.319
and uh I am. I guess
I'm gonna bring somebody in here. Uh.

1070
01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.239
And it's a voice we have not
heard from in some time. Hold

1071
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:53.560
on, let's see I can bring
him on. Oh man, I'm almost

1072
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:59.000
speechless. Hold on a second here, Let's see see if I can bring

1073
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:02.399
them in. I want to get
his comments on this as well. And

1074
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.920
uh, maybe if you guys call
in three one nine five two seven five

1075
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:11.079
zero one six, you can talk
to me about this. Let me know

1076
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:15.199
what you Uh, what you think. I did not expect this news story

1077
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:18.800
from beat Pete at all. I
did not expect it to be local Whole

1078
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:23.399
Foods any of it. And still
I'm not sure if we can put this

1079
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:28.319
on YouTube or not, but I
do have a skype joining a person joining

1080
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:31.560
us on skype, and uh yeah, so your your comments go ahead.

1081
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:39.239
What's happening? Yeah? How you
doing exactly the news? Dude? I

1082
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:42.079
was sitting I'm like, oh,
I got to give me a piece of

1083
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:45.399
this shit jacking off the Whole Foods. And right after he talked about that

1084
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.840
crazy bitch. And when Shovin Donalds
walked back to circle k out not breaks

1085
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:54.640
help. Yeah, she went back
to work with her kids and just like,

1086
01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:59.520
well breaks over. I can just
sleeping people in this world. At

1087
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:01.880
Chump, I was just sitting there
thinking, Okay, I read the article.

1088
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.039
He just came up. Didn't seem
like he was doing anything out of

1089
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:09.039
the ordinary. I'm thinking, okay, so what he is like one pump

1090
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:13.680
Chump just was undoes himself, pulls
it out because it's one good yank,

1091
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:15.640
like a shotgun, and it goes
off. Jobs done, and he's dipping

1092
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:20.359
his pants up or something like that
man. That's just fucking weird. I'm

1093
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:26.479
curious though, his whole food's gonna
do away with their small baskets because you

1094
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:35.239
can obscure a possible sexual assault by
teaching replaced basket. Well, they better

1095
01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:39.560
raise the chips up off the floor
because she was bent over picking up a

1096
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:44.560
bag of chips. I mean,
well, you know they do have those

1097
01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:46.399
hand scanners in there now, right, so you can pay for everything.

1098
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.720
Well, why don't they just reconfigure
that a little bit to see if there's

1099
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:54.079
any like extra substances on there,
and if there is, then you don't

1100
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.840
get allowed in there, you know, black light check out or black light

1101
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.399
check him? Ye deeply? Do
you want to hand? Like? Sorry

1102
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:05.000
Holmes? And by the way,
sweatpants aren't allowed in the store, so

1103
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:12.039
do you want to what do you
do of unknown substances? We can't let

1104
01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:15.560
you in. I mean, would
you handle the scanner after after the guy?

1105
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.479
After this guy? I won't use
one to begin with, but there's

1106
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:23.319
a lot of people that wouldn't mind. There's a lot of stupid people just

1107
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.880
like that bitch and went back to
work after shooting a McDonald's. Man.

1108
01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.439
I gotta tell you, man,
you know, it almost makes you think

1109
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:32.840
that that six foot social distancing might
have been a good idea, because I

1110
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:35.840
doubt he could make it six feet. I mean, how close was he?

1111
01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:40.800
That's another weird question here. Nobody
asked her that right, how close

1112
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.600
was he? That this ends up
on her back she thinks she's hit with

1113
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:47.520
coffee. I mean, well,
another thing too, is you know we're

1114
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.520
talking about distances. It can go
for something disgusting to where it's like,

1115
01:24:50.680 --> 01:25:01.920
oh, that's respect rospect. I
guess you know anybody does Anybody doesn't recognize

1116
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:06.239
the voice, uh naughty by Nature? You can go look that up because

1117
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:12.680
this nature boy who is also the
voice is still still o'chelly dot com.

1118
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.640
You hear his voice on there,
and he's out doing his own thing.

1119
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:18.760
Matter of fact, you just did
a really interesting interview if you want to

1120
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.840
talk about that. But whatever you
want to talk about your ear up.

1121
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:29.279
I want to talking about this naked
news and crazy fucking people in the Call

1122
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:31.520
County that's not far away from my
dad lives, who's are on the side

1123
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.720
of Chattahoochee. So I mean,
all all the crazy people, I guess

1124
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:41.479
are kind of migrating a little bit
north into the rich Hill country. Well

1125
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:45.880
they're not exactly sane down where I
am either, But man, I would

1126
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:56.640
not expect this at a Whole Foods
freaks apparently. I guess it's something whether

1127
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:00.439
it's you know, handheld, well, I guess they're both hands. Yeah

1128
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:03.399
yeah, But you know you all
are so team over there. You know

1129
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.880
this is just one dude jacking off
and Whole Foods. Right, we have

1130
01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:11.439
cities down here like the late Great
San Francisco, or they just do it

1131
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:15.800
in the street that right, brother, you know there's there right, yeah,

1132
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.560
exactly. Man, the Whole Foods
in you know, outline suburbia of

1133
01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:23.760
Atlanta, Well, they'll they'll give
you two for one, they'll blow a

1134
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:27.520
load to turn around, squat and
dumpload all kind of almost the same movement.

1135
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.840
Then people they got some skills and
ship. Well you know again,

1136
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:33.279
if you're in New York City,
I mean, this is not that unusual,

1137
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:36.560
except you get your reflexes up.
You duck, you know what I'm

1138
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:42.359
saying. But I mean it's just, uh, it's just crazy to me

1139
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:46.159
that it's like Whole Foods in Georgia. I guess they all could need to

1140
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:50.039
start offering free bio hazard suits.
When you come in here, put on

1141
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:55.199
this uh put on this uh tive
x suit and it just slip it up

1142
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:58.439
and then you can deposit it here
when you leave, next to a hand

1143
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:00.920
sanitizer. Forget them. Don't forget
to get your mask. We have to

1144
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:05.600
protect your mask. Get your mask. What did you think about Paul Pelosi's

1145
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:13.399
attacker getting thirty years their nature boy
in your home state? Yeah, well

1146
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.760
that's what happens when you have a
little love core with somebody who's very doing

1147
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:20.560
the most powerful and corrupt people in
the nation. Right, you think you're

1148
01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:24.840
getting out of that shit light?
Oh hell, and you whack the old

1149
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:29.479
fuck with a hammer on video in
front of the cops. Yeah, you

1150
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:33.359
know, old timer might be doing
a little bit of a legislator tier booty

1151
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:38.159
duty. Well it makes you wonder
now that he's pulling thirty years on this,

1152
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:41.600
he's gonna do a minimum fifteen before
they let him out. Are we

1153
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:45.680
gonna hear the real story? Now? No, you'll never hear the real

1154
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.560
story. P Pete. No,
he's gonna have that. You know that

1155
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:56.920
somebody's going to be begging to interview
this guy once he's in Yeah, yeah,

1156
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.039
and then all of a sudden,
you just missed their actually got shaped

1157
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:05.239
one not poor god, no,
no, what happened. We had him

1158
01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:11.880
on suitside watch and someone just cap
it and shape them. None of the

1159
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.279
cameras will work either, exactly.
The guards just they fell asleep. Man,

1160
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:18.960
they're on break, brought you break. So you think he might get

1161
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:25.520
Epstein if he says anything, Let's
just say it's happened more than once in

1162
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:28.439
the world. Let's just say that. Oh yeah, No, guys,

1163
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.680
guys magically hang themselves all the time, all the time, even when they

1164
01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.520
don't have stuff to hang themselves with. You know, they just they find

1165
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:42.720
a way shot. Right. I
can't see this guy having so much info

1166
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:46.399
that it becomes, you know,
one of on the list. No,

1167
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.680
man, I think he's just gonna
find a bunch of young students have a

1168
01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:54.600
lot of sex. You know,
there's somebody for everybody, even in prison.

1169
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:59.039
So who knows. I'm saying,
you know, he's going to be

1170
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:01.079
in an environment, well, he
probably will be able to get what he

1171
01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:05.600
wants. Somebody's not going to go
in their interview and find out, really

1172
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:09.479
what the hell he was doing there
that night? What is his connection to

1173
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:15.960
Paul Pelosi. His connection is probably
a lot deeper than one thinks, BP

1174
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:23.600
a little deeper. So anybody got
any other naked news besides the whole foods

1175
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:29.319
or what. That's a pretty wild
one, impossible to top, I think.

1176
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:32.760
I think so that that has to
has to go down to the annals,

1177
01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.880
not annals of naked news. And
I mean that beat the first one

1178
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:43.039
that started off years ago, beat
people that dude tweaked up breaking in houses

1179
01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.239
and swimming naked across the river escaping
the cops. Man. You know what,

1180
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.079
we haven't gotten an update on that
in a while. Bpete, have

1181
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:51.920
you been keeping track? Yeah?
I checked last week. The guys still

1182
01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:56.119
sitting in jail. Still hasn't come
up on any of his court cases.

1183
01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.239
He's scheduled for again this month,
but it'll probably be you know, postponed

1184
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:04.079
and put back off. I'm I
sent a letter here not long to or

1185
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:09.159
an email to one of the reporters
up there in the nashvill area, and

1186
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:11.680
they said that they, you know, when they heard that he was actually

1187
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:13.760
going to court, they would let
me know. But Hill, that was

1188
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:16.800
a year ago. So I mean, this guy's not only got to have

1189
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.880
a record, for the most charges
at one time. He's got to have

1190
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:25.640
the damn record for not even going
to court on him. Well, it's

1191
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:30.119
been what three years. See,
I've tried to tell you guys several times

1192
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:34.399
that a lot of people end up
sitting for a long time, you know,

1193
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:41.119
and it's it's not necessarily something as
crazy as this guy. I knew

1194
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:45.039
a guy who was on a gun
charge for like three years, and it

1195
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.000
was all this time. All they
needed to do was take the one statement

1196
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.920
from somebody who was like, no, it's actually my gun that you know.

1197
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:58.079
This guy is charged with attempted I
think he's charged with an attempted murder

1198
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.279
on law enforcement officer. Oh,
oh, here is They want to push

1199
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:04.680
this stuff in there and get the
guy thrown in the slammer. But it's

1200
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:09.279
been I'm trying to I'll have to
go back and look at the original date.

1201
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:15.399
But it's been several years now,
let me look that up. Well,

1202
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.159
all I know is that a lot
of people have this idea that you

1203
01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:23.000
can get out real easy. And
I've known people personally that have sat for

1204
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:30.159
years on much less charges, you
know, And it could be solved inside

1205
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:34.159
of a day if somebody actually does
their job, you know, one way

1206
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:36.760
or another, whether they were guilty
or not. And in some cases they

1207
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:40.439
are, in some cases they're not, but it doesn't matter. It's like

1208
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:44.720
you could just be Once you get
caught up in there, you can sit

1209
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:47.760
a long time, you know,
unless you've got a really good lawyer.

1210
01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:53.399
And if you're working with the public
defenders, eh, you know them guys

1211
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:57.199
don't look so good. Oh crap, it looks like I lost my my

1212
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:01.000
Skype somehow I lost my connection.
I'm gonna have to reconnect in a moment,

1213
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:05.800
guys and see what what in the
hell just happened? Well, let

1214
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:10.359
me try and join back in,
because something happened auto grand theft. I

1215
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:14.000
mean, he's just guy. He's
got the whole myriad of charges up to

1216
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:16.640
it, including trying to kill a
law enforcement officer. Right, I'm surprised

1217
01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:24.159
he hasn't been pulled in yet.
Yeah, especially if he's going after law

1218
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:27.960
enforcements. They kind of like to
make that a priority. I guess,

1219
01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:33.479
yeah, you would think maybe so. I don't know, you know,

1220
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:38.319
but like I said, it just
it seems not to matter what the charges

1221
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:43.319
are or what the personal vendetta could
be. Locally, it's just sometimes people

1222
01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:47.319
just sit and rot and rot and
rot. And you know it's not because

1223
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:51.880
there are multiple felons like this guy. But sometimes it's one thing. Like

1224
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.279
I said, the one guy with
the gun charge killed me because he got

1225
01:32:55.319 --> 01:33:00.640
in a car accident, and then
the cops found the gun and it became

1226
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.119
this whole thing. But if there
was no accident to begin with, they

1227
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:09.199
would have never found it. It
was a simple possession problem. And yeah,

1228
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:13.560
three years later the guy walks out
no charge, but he spent those

1229
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:17.159
three years anyway, you know.
I mean, it's just because it turns

1230
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:20.279
out somebody else owned the gun,
who was in the car before and left

1231
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:24.000
it there. And the guy was
actually telling a story like I don't know

1232
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.680
where the gun came from, and
they were like, yeah, sure you

1233
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:30.880
don't. And they had him in
there three years, so I don't know.

1234
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:36.159
Yeah, this was from twenty twenty
one when all this started. So

1235
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:43.119
and it's June. So next month
we're looking at three years. A weird

1236
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.680
thing. I seem to have lost
my phone lines, so I'm gonna go

1237
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:49.800
ahead and take a quick break here
and come back. Oh crap, I

1238
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:54.399
did not I was not ready for
this let's see what we can do here.

1239
01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:58.760
I think I can. Yeah,
I can probably bring this back around

1240
01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:03.439
and get us get us through with
the newly hooked up phone line. So

1241
01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:08.000
that's what I'm gonna do, all
right, stick around, we'll finish out

1242
01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:42.640
the Ocelly effect here on this Friday
night, Open Mica, get ready for

1243
01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:50.000
all right? So, last twenty
minutes or so of the show, and

1244
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:54.319
I had a little I don't know
what happened there to phone lines just disabled

1245
01:34:54.399 --> 01:35:00.720
themselves and they were gone. So
here we are back again. Uh technology

1246
01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:04.560
technology, Yes, so Bpete is
with me, Nature Boy is with me.

1247
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:09.960
We've lost Jimmy James on the phone, but not intentionally. So if

1248
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.439
you want to call back in or
anybody else wants to call in, three

1249
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:15.239
one nine five two seven five zero
one six, that's the number to call.

1250
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.119
I do not know what happened to
my phone lines just now, but

1251
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:25.159
for the next twenty minutes or so, we are live, and look at

1252
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:29.439
this now, I got to restart
this thing too nice. Anyways, we

1253
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:34.319
are live and we will still be
taking calls. Three one nine, five

1254
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:40.640
two seven five zero one six three
one nine five two seven five zero one

1255
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.000
six. Not sure what happened to? The phone's there, but everything just

1256
01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:47.359
stopped working for a few minutes.
And now I've got nature Boy and be

1257
01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:51.640
Pete back with me. So my
cost and uh skype caller nature Boy.

1258
01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:56.920
So here we are naked news.
I don't know. Maybe we broke stuff

1259
01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.600
because the naked news was just too
much. I don't think I'm gonna add

1260
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.119
this to the YouTube. What do
you guys think? I don't know.

1261
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:06.800
But anyways, so back to it. You were you were talking about this,

1262
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:11.520
uh, this guy, the original
naked news guy, and you checked

1263
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:15.199
up on him a week ago,
and uh, anyway, so I don't

1264
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:16.960
know if you're out. We're looking
at uh, we're looking at three years

1265
01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:21.880
since he first, you know,
decided to swim the French Broad River and

1266
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:27.279
naked in the middle of the night's
But looking at his charges, I think

1267
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:31.600
he's I think recent total is over
forty because after they busted him for that,

1268
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:36.319
they connected him with a bunch of
burglaries that had gone on Apparently he

1269
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:43.159
had his clothes on on those,
but basically assaulted people stealing cars, trying

1270
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:46.399
to run over a law enforcement officer
with one of them. So he's looking

1271
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:53.039
at all the over forty charges most
of If he's smart, he'll keep the

1272
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:57.399
land his trial date to stay in
county before he gets sent off to the

1273
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:01.840
big House. Well maybe that's part
of I don't know. I guess Aspho

1274
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:09.359
might have a better cuisine in their
jail than Central Prison. Yeah, especially

1275
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.640
going in there with all those charges, he might like, where do you

1276
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.720
want to get your blooney sandwich from? Would you rather get it local or

1277
01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:17.800
would you rather get it from the
state. Well, I know in Perry

1278
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:21.319
the sandwiches are not rotten when you
get them. You get a decent sandwich

1279
01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:26.680
in Perry County. But I don't
know about the other jails here in Georgia

1280
01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.960
or Funny, I've just thought about
something. Out of all the jails that

1281
01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:38.119
I've been in, including the military
brig, I've never had a meal in

1282
01:37:38.279 --> 01:37:44.039
jail. I've never been there long
enough. Never had you, never had

1283
01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:48.159
a baloney sandwich. No, I've
never gotten the blooney sandwich or the jungle

1284
01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:54.600
juice that you know most people get. Damn, I'm getting short changed on

1285
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:58.119
this. See. I wasn't long
enough to do any jungle juice or anything

1286
01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:00.840
like that, But I got my
share of sand which is if I did

1287
01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:03.479
take a few hits off of a
roach of some Mexican dirt weed while I

1288
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:09.840
was there, I thought that was
like really special hum well and and juv.

1289
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.960
They served a lot of mac and
cheese, guys, I can tell

1290
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:17.439
you that it was. It didn't
even happen for mac and cheese, especially

1291
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:19.840
after the night. So I've been
out drinking all damn night. I was

1292
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:27.000
really hungry. I didn't even get
the blooney sandwich. Damn, I feel

1293
01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:31.159
abused. I don't know how you
end up behind bars without getting a blooney

1294
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.399
sandwich at least once. I mean, that's like standard. Isn't that like

1295
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:39.880
everywhere? It's like can spucked to
night to get a decent wrap around there.

1296
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:43.800
My god, at least give the
man a bolooney sandwich. Well,

1297
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:46.560
that's beautiful. I need. Next
time I get locked up, I'll just

1298
01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:51.720
have to ask him what time is
is breakfast? What time is breakfast?

1299
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:59.560
Delay my release until nine am not
six am. You want yourself to the

1300
01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:03.159
stale a little bit datas and some
of that powdered eggs that they serve that

1301
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:11.039
might have find breakfast cuisine. I
also, I mean I've mess all food.

1302
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:13.720
So I can eat just about anything, but I feel like I've been

1303
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:17.600
cheated all these years. I know
when you when you when you know in

1304
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:23.039
Jersey, when they sent you to
isolation, you got bread and I guess

1305
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:26.840
it was butter. I'm not sure
what the substance was, but my guess

1306
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:30.760
is it was butter with the bread. So no bologna even, and no

1307
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:35.479
mac and cheese in isolation. So
yeah, and cheese. No mac and

1308
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:39.720
cheese. That's all that messed up. Well, and they had just tons

1309
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.520
of that, like that was what
they fed everybody. Like you know,

1310
01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:45.720
there's these huge trays of mac and
cheese like piled. I don't even know

1311
01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:48.560
how they got it piled that way, like you know those metal warmer trays.

1312
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:53.600
Yeah, it's like in there,
but like a mountain of mac and

1313
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:57.520
cheese, like two three mountains of
mac and cheese. That's what went on

1314
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:04.640
in Uh. Well, mac and
cheese now, so am I that's what

1315
01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.720
we got. And what can I
tell you? I love mac and cheese.

1316
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.239
Well, I like good mac and
cheese, you know, a cheese

1317
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.399
love stuff. I wonder if it
affects people once they get out that they

1318
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:21.920
never want to eat it again My
ex father in law was over in South

1319
01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:28.079
Pacific for World War Two. It
was a mortar platoon and I was sitting

1320
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.720
there fixing the sandwich. One day. We have been working in the yard

1321
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:32.800
at his place on the lake,
and I sent in there fixing the sandwich,

1322
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:35.000
fixing peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
And I said, you know,

1323
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:38.880
buzz, do you want me to
make you a sandwich and peanut butter?

1324
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:43.359
Hell no, I mean, what
have you got against peanut butter? He

1325
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.840
said? We got stuck in the
damn fox holes. He said. We

1326
01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:49.479
stayed in one place for I know, three weeks, and all we had

1327
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:53.159
left to eat at the end of
it was damn peanut butter. He says.

1328
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:56.800
I swore once I got back to
the US, I would never eat

1329
01:40:56.840 --> 01:41:00.760
peanut butter again. They never did
well. He probably had those like peanut

1330
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.600
butter tubes out of the m R. E s right, Yeah, this

1331
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:08.600
was your this is your k rations
and stuff. I mean it was a

1332
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:11.800
it was a tin can of peanut
butter. Once you opened it up,

1333
01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:15.800
you had to remix it because the
oil had separated out of it. So,

1334
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:19.840
okay, see I don't have all
those expence I I just I remember

1335
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:25.119
seeing the the m r s with
the with the peanut butter, like a

1336
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:30.840
peanut butter tube and a jelly tube, and then there's then the crass k

1337
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:34.079
When I was in the service of
our m R's, we didn't get the

1338
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:39.239
jelly tube. We just got that
little package tube of what they called peanut

1339
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:45.680
butter, and they had what they
called a cracker. Yeah, and let's

1340
01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:47.039
just say it wasn't that tasty.
But if you're in the field, then

1341
01:41:47.079 --> 01:41:50.880
you're young. Glad I got out. They started phasing n m rs right

1342
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:54.720
when I got out, and I'm
glad I got out because there's no way

1343
01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:58.399
in now like as much as we
were in the field being a medic you

1344
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:01.239
uh, you know, ambulance.
We had a M one one three personnel

1345
01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:04.399
carrier. So well we went to
the field, I'd go to my buddy

1346
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:10.279
down in the you know, supply, talk to the sergeant there, get

1347
01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:13.479
me about three cases k racis throw
on there, so we ate good.

1348
01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:17.600
It's amazing the the gourmet meals that
you can make out of k rations,

1349
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:23.239
but those MRIs I'd never made it. I dot, I don't see how

1350
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:29.800
people ate those. I don't know, you know, I saw you know

1351
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:32.199
again, I had some of these
things. They were brought to me by

1352
01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:35.119
somebody else. But I mean there
were some interesting bags of this and that

1353
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:39.479
and there. Uh like there was
this one thing that was like a rice

1354
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:44.960
rice and meat dish. I don't
know what that was. Uh maybe there

1355
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.760
was no there wasn't meat. Actually
there was like tomato sauce and rice and

1356
01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:51.479
I don't know what they called it
or whatever, but it was Okay.

1357
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:57.000
Those crackers that you're talking about,
though, I remember those being stuffed into

1358
01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.000
a thing. Those things were hard. Boy, I don't know, they

1359
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:05.560
were little thin boards. Yeah,
like it really. Here was the worst

1360
01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:11.560
though, is the dehydrated hamburger packet, the Hamburger patty. Oh boy,

1361
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:14.680
because no matter how much you put
hot water in one of those things,

1362
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:21.039
that still tastes like beef styrofoam.
It was absolutely discussing the turkey that we

1363
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:26.000
had things like, uh, you
actually had a pound cake and a can.

1364
01:43:26.279 --> 01:43:30.520
You'd open it up. You'd take
your jelly from your prior meal and

1365
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:32.760
your crackers. You put the jelly
on the pound cake, stick it on

1366
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:38.159
the heating plate below where the heater
vent was, and heat that damn thing

1367
01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:45.680
up and it was good. Yeah, we had a luxury. We had

1368
01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.680
tubs. We had tubs of hot
water or those canisters of hot water,

1369
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:53.239
and then we had our helmets.
And that's how we heated up our stuff

1370
01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:56.239
in our field. Luckily I had
to do it in basic training. Once

1371
01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:59.079
I got the permanent party, I'm
like, you fucking kidding me? No,

1372
01:43:59.359 --> 01:44:01.880
dude, no, no, no. We went to the field.

1373
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:08.159
That permanent party was a joke.
Everyone brought their VCRs and I'm surprised there's

1374
01:44:08.199 --> 01:44:11.319
no barbecues out there. They wouldn't
let's go that far. But you know,

1375
01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.479
well, there you have it.
So anyway, how we get from

1376
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:21.159
the Whole Foods to the k rations, I don't know, but here food

1377
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:28.680
food is food. Oh yeah,
and don't bend over for the potato chips.

1378
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:36.000
Don't food clear? Make sure?
Yeah, yeah, there we go

1379
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:41.800
to the backglass area from one.
People, if you get nothing out of

1380
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:45.560
this when you go to the grocery
store, always look over your shoulder before

1381
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.319
you bend over to get the chips. Make sure there's nobody behind you.

1382
01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:51.760
At the Whole Foods, I mean, wow, what you need is one

1383
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:57.119
of those sticks that cartman had in
the pandemic special six feet in the flag

1384
01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.560
get away so that someone comes up
the grocery store, have a collapsable and

1385
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.680
like a baton. You can just
snap that thing out there and just stay

1386
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:09.239
away. If they come close to
you and snail them say hey, I

1387
01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:14.640
didn't know those old foods. Week. Last week, you know, we

1388
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:17.039
had a guy that come in our
food line and he would he used pool

1389
01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:21.600
noodles to build him a little arc. He had a circle around him and

1390
01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:26.479
Spike's coming off of him with pool
noodles holding it out there. It was

1391
01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:29.760
six feet, so you know,
he was in the middle of his six

1392
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:32.039
foot rate, his six foot circumfer. Well, I know, I guess

1393
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.680
it'd be a diameter six foot diameter. And I told him, I said,

1394
01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:38.399
well, you got to get three
feet from people. He said,

1395
01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:40.960
well you mean, I said,
well, you're in the center, so

1396
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.760
it's three feet to the end of
the pool noodle. You got to put

1397
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:46.680
another three feet on that. Oh, I guess I'll have to get some

1398
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:53.159
more pool noodles. That's the trouble
when they sell them at the dollar store,

1399
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.880
right, I mean, you know
people get Dollar General has him a

1400
01:45:57.960 --> 01:46:01.039
buck apiece. Man, they're on
sale some is here. There you have

1401
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:04.319
it. So with the last ten
minutes or so, if anybody wants to

1402
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:06.680
join us, we do have time, and I do have the phone lines

1403
01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:12.239
back up. So three one nine
seven, five zero one six. If

1404
01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:14.960
not, I mean, do we
do we have any other stories we want

1405
01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.760
to cover BPT anything else? Well, I'm just looking down my list of

1406
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:23.000
stuff, I mean, other than
the general mayhem that's going on around the

1407
01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:27.239
world. Yeah, I told you
earlier before we went on air, I

1408
01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:31.920
was reading the story in Australia,
much like here with our famous Duke energy.

1409
01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:36.880
Uh, they have a tendency to
charge people that have solar panels.

1410
01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:44.159
Australia has gone that crap crazy over
solar panels, so people are put them

1411
01:46:44.199 --> 01:46:47.600
on their homes. This lady is
complaining because, and it was off of

1412
01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:54.680
Twitter, she put her copy of
her bill that showed she generated more power

1413
01:46:54.920 --> 01:46:59.680
from her solar panels than she actually
used, so the rest of it goes

1414
01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:06.319
on the grid. Her power bill
was six hundred dollars because now the power

1415
01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:12.079
company is charging people for excess power
going on the grid between the hours of

1416
01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:15.920
ten in the morning and three in
the afternoon, which is peak time.

1417
01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.239
You would think that's when they'd want
that power, but to manage it,

1418
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:23.920
they're now charging people. So if
you have solar panels, people are saying,

1419
01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:26.680
oh, well, get batteries and
save that power and then put it

1420
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:30.359
on at night. If you're hooked
to the grid with your solar panels,

1421
01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:33.199
your battery system has to be hooked
to the grid too, so there's no

1422
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.880
point and batteries are going to cost
you about ten thousand for the typical home

1423
01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:40.960
unit there. So you put batteries
in, you have to go off the

1424
01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:45.800
grid to be able to use batteries
for yourself. And why don't these people

1425
01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:51.119
it's crazy six hundred dollars electric bill
and you generate more power than you're using.

1426
01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:54.960
Well, that's weird. That's how
bad the government is letting them screw

1427
01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:00.399
you. I mean, I just
don't understand it. Yeah, you'd think

1428
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.720
they owe you money if you're putting
power back into the grid, right,

1429
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:09.399
I mean the way it be in
this state when when people started putting solar

1430
01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:14.399
on their homes, they could sell
their excess on the grid to duke energy

1431
01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:18.239
and they got paid for it or
they were giving credits towards their bill,

1432
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:23.600
and if they generated more power than
they used. They were actually making money.

1433
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:27.000
Well, Duke got tired of that, so they went out and started

1434
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.319
putting in their own solar farms because
they were mandated a certain percent had to

1435
01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:35.920
come from renewable sources. So they
build their own solar farms, and now

1436
01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:43.680
they're charging you to put your excess
power on the grid. But my advice

1437
01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:45.680
is, if you're going to go
solar, you make sure you have enough

1438
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:50.079
money to buy the battery system so
that you can contain it yourself. Don't

1439
01:48:50.119 --> 01:48:55.119
go on the grid, and don't
hook to the grid. Use your own

1440
01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:59.840
power for your sources, and not
pay them a don It sounds to me

1441
01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:02.159
like you just cut it off at
a certain time of day. Just cut

1442
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:06.000
them out of the equation completely and
figure out a way to just use what

1443
01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:10.720
you're getting off your panels. But
no, let's see, once you on

1444
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:13.960
most of these systems, when you
hook into the grid, you don't have

1445
01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:20.000
control overthrowing the switch and say I'm
going to use my stuff now and then

1446
01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:28.279
late at night switch over to the
commercial side. You don't have that opportunity

1447
01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:30.560
when you get hooked to the grid. You're hooked to the grid twenty four

1448
01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:34.560
to seven. My advice is to
cut off the grid and don't connect to

1449
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:39.640
it and then never use their power, use your own. Just put in

1450
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:45.039
a disconnect box on the line right
before it gets into your panel. You

1451
01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:51.279
can't if you go on the grid, you're on the grid twenty four to

1452
01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:57.279
seven. You're throwing that excess power
onto the system. And by law,

1453
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:00.520
Duke, now you could, yeah, you could do it underhanded, but

1454
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.680
somehow eventually they're going to see this. When you're switching on switching off,

1455
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:08.079
they have a right to come in
and inspect the equipment and see if it's

1456
01:50:08.119 --> 01:50:11.319
hooked up legally. So that's what
a lot of people are doing. They're

1457
01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:14.119
saying the hell with the solar panels. They're just cutting them off, not

1458
01:50:14.279 --> 01:50:16.960
even using them, and paying a
lower price for their power. But again,

1459
01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:21.560
we've got monopoly here. You've got
to get every municipality, every co

1460
01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:28.840
op, everybody gets their power from
Duke Energy. So monopoly worse than AT

1461
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:31.640
and T. But we're not seeing
the federal government break them up. Now

1462
01:50:31.720 --> 01:50:35.479
it's bad too. And Duke is
not just in North Carolina, No,

1463
01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:42.319
they're in eleven states. Plus there's
subsidiary companies which are probably in all fifty

1464
01:50:42.399 --> 01:50:47.159
states and twenty countries. I mean, they're worldwide now, but they hold

1465
01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:55.000
the monopoly on eleven states on power. That's crazy, absolutely crazy. Anyway,

1466
01:50:56.199 --> 01:51:00.680
we are getting toward the end of
our time tonight though, because transitions

1467
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:05.359
will begin in about six minutes.
So I guess I'll give you two guys

1468
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:09.119
the opportunity to close it out.
Nature Boy, you're on with us,

1469
01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:13.479
so why don't you go first,
and then I'll give Bepete the final word

1470
01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:16.439
and we'll close her out. All
right, Well, it was cool hanging

1471
01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:19.920
out with you all. I just
got off an interview with Erroneous method here

1472
01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:26.079
and tuned into your show and I
was like, dude, naked News.

1473
01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:29.079
It drew me. I had to
fire my system back come on here.

1474
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:34.560
So it's been a pleasure. If
you're into anybody's interested and seeing me,

1475
01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:38.920
hearing me and all that. My
show can be found on Rumble at Nazi

1476
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:44.439
by Nature with nature Boy, not
He's Built any ut Eyes and Nautical Hans

1477
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:48.680
on podcasts. It is on the
live feed of the Great Oh Chilly dot

1478
01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:55.760
com, and it is also on
the live feed for TNP, the Rumble

1479
01:51:56.359 --> 01:52:00.680
Channel or teamp The Prisoners on Rumble
and Freeworld dot So guys like what you

1480
01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:03.920
hear, leave me at DM,
hit me on Twitter if you hate what

1481
01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.680
you hear, well I hate listeners. Always welcome on my show, just

1482
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:10.479
spelling name right, y'all and thanks
for me hang out with you. It's

1483
01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:13.319
fun. There you go, and
you guys will hear an interview I think

1484
01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:17.479
with Jessica Rose this weekend on o'chelly
dot com Radio. From the Nature Boy

1485
01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:25.720
and Naughty by Nature again spelled naut
I by nature, right yep? Any

1486
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:29.199
u t I Naughty by nature with
Nature Boy. Had to throw on them

1487
01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:32.079
with Nature Boy or when someone did
a search on NEI there's a million naughty

1488
01:52:32.079 --> 01:52:34.640
by nature, so not to by
nature with Nature Boy. There you go,

1489
01:52:36.159 --> 01:52:39.880
all right, fair enough and he
gave you all the places to get

1490
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:43.319
it. And that's the way that
is. So b Pete, what is

1491
01:52:43.399 --> 01:52:48.840
your final word for the week.
Well, appreciate Jimmy and uh nature Boy

1492
01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:54.920
for calling in another good Friday night, strange conversation. But that's the thing

1493
01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:57.640
about this. You never know which
way it's going to go. I would

1494
01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:01.119
ask everybody to go to a chilly
dot com I'm gonnahit to donate button support

1495
01:53:01.159 --> 01:53:05.199
your local food banks, and let's
see if we can do this again next

1496
01:53:05.239 --> 01:53:09.479
Friday. There you go, and
I appreciate it. Look, it's been

1497
01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:15.159
a weird rough time lately, so
yeah, strange things happening. I got

1498
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.560
to tell you. The least of
my problems was the drains backing up in

1499
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:23.479
the house, right But anyway,
I'm having all kinds of fun over here

1500
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:28.760
in the strange land called Georgia,
and we're trying to pump out new material

1501
01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:32.560
constantly, so hopefully you guys are
catching that on Theocelli dot com radio network.

1502
01:53:33.399 --> 01:53:38.119
Don't have as many outlets as some
other people, but you know,

1503
01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:42.279
hey, it is what it is
and we're doing it. So coming up

1504
01:53:42.359 --> 01:53:45.520
next will be the Age of Transitions
with Aaron Franz immediately followed my uncle at

1505
01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:50.960
eleven pm. So I think uncle's
taking calls at eleven pm Eastern. So

1506
01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:55.439
there you have it. Anyway,
no matter who you are, where you

1507
01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.960
are, when you are, want
you to remember, I'm merely o'celly.

1508
01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.600
All of you are indeed a fact

