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my collas B Pete. How are you doing this week, man, I'm
doing pretty good. A little busy, kind of hectic a work out.
The weather is fully stabilized into summer. We're trying to go back and get
a little spring in the air, maybe next week back in the seventies.
But it's been busy. I haven't had a lot of chances to catch up
on the news other than the blow up in court yesterday in Trump's trial.
And I did not even know that cirril Wick had passed away. Yeah,
I hadn't heard anything about it, hadn't seen anything on any of the damn
news sides I'd go too, which is strange because usually they'll list prominent obituaries
like that. So I'm really surprised. Yeah, if it wasn't if it
wasn't for me watching media in the Northeast, I might not have seen it.
You know, Pittsburgh, so there was they did a thing on the
news for him and announced his death, you know, because he was a
big figure in Pittsburgh. But but yeah, no, not not a huge
amount of news coverage. I'll tell you something else weird that happened that I
thought it would have got a lot more attention. Remember the guy who attacked
Paul Pelosi with the hammer. Remember the whole video where they're in the underwear
line. He got quite a bit of time, didn't he thirty years apparently?
Uh, you know, where's the headline on this though? I mean
it's look, I don't go to Fox that often, but maybe Fox News
is covering it. I don't know is anybody covering it? I saw something
on CBS News today. That's the only place I've seen it. It was
just a short blip that he got the thirty years. Wow. I mean,
you know CNN is going gabble to gabble on Trump, right, so
they don't have time for nothing else. Here's for murder in most states?
Yeah, yeah, I know, But I mean attacking somebody with a hammer.
I mean I don't think you're you know, the whole supposition that if
you are attacking somebody in a certain way, you meant to kill them,
okay, even though you didn't succeed. I mean, if you're hitting somebody
in the head with a hammer, I don't think you're looking to do minor
damage. You know, just what do you think? And that's just mean
most guys that get popped for murder, now, you know, they figure
twenty years and then they're out after twelve, right, And it just kills
me that he got thirty out of the deal. And this is in California,
No damn liberal way. Or well, see there's the other shocker,
right, because most people would think liberal state, this guy's gonna get what
five years in therapy? Right? Yeah, well not so much, not
if you attack Nancy Pelosi's husband, I guess. But he was also supposed
to be looking to kidnap her too, right, so they had to wrap
that charge into it as well. Yeah, good knows. Could you imagine
kidnappen? So you'll love to listen to that when caught Nos, Now,
I could not imagine getting stuck spending time with Nancy Pelosi. Weird thing.
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straightened out now, so it's all good and now I can hear what he
has to say. Now. You were saying before we went to that unscheduled
break that, uh, you know, you found it weird that there wasn't
something that came up in your newspeed that Cyril Weck passed away at ninety three
years of age this week, So you know, what where do you want
to follow on from there? Well, you know, I'm just I was
gonna ask you how made his owners before JFK, before he ever got involved
in this stuff. I'm just curious how much how much influence do you think
he had on the whole JFK debate? Oh? Huge, because you know,
look, yeah, like you said, he was already like a young
doctor pretty much. I mean he had already gone bald, but you know,
the dark hair was still there, the ring around the head kind of
thing. In the sixties, and he was one of the first guys to
go out there and say, look, I'm a doctor. I know how
this stuff works. I do autopsies, and something's wrong here. When you
know, some stuff came out. But again, as I stated during the
tribute there, he didn't get a chance to go into the National Archives till
seventy two, and Garrison was calling on him to go down and you know,
testify at the Shaw trial. So I would say, yeah, I
mean he was an early influenced CBS. If you look back at the UH,
I think it was either three or four nights in sixty seven or sixty
eight there when CBS did there, you know, we're going to study the
Warrant Commission ourselves deal. I don't know if you ever saw that program all
the way through, but well, he was invited to that, and I'm
thinking, I know there was some black and white footage of him before that,
and like I said, you know the Shaw Trial, so I mean
he was around a lot. And then HSCA he's part of the medical panel
right, clearly not on the same side as Boden and all that, and
even that clip I played from the fortieth anniversary presentation at Duquane in two thousand
and three, you know, Michael Bodney invited there, He invited Arlen Spector
that weekend, you know, for the fortieth anniversary, people that you know
clearly stood on the other side of the issue, right, And I don't
know, he definitely was part of the debate. I think that nobody would
have been asking in general out there, other authors, other people that were
doing programs on it, documentaryes, what happened to Kennedy's brain, except that
Cyril rec ran around all over the place saying, where's Kennedy's brain? It's
lost, you know, And there were people that said, oh, look,
it's a very simple explanation and this, and then I kind of settle
on that myself, even but the fact that he was asking that question,
the fact that he participated in this stuff, and people might not remember in
the pre internet age, when you know, these guys had to travel around
to do these documentaries and news specials and whatever on the case, almost always
they would go and find Cyril. So he was almost always part of the
conversation from the men who kill Kennedy to you know, these smaller programs that
got forgotten later, the half hour news specials, all that stuff. I
mean, they almost always sought out zerril Weck. Even Bugliosi's mock trial,
if you remember that whole mock trial, he calls him up as a witness,
or maybe Spence called him as a witness, but either way, you
know, Bugliosi is a little rough on him, but Boogliosi was kind of
a jerk. And then the two of them did a couple of famous radio
debates between them. It was really interesting. You know, he had been
part of this case though for decades, not not just like popping up a
couple of places or writing a couple of books. Uh. Now, you
know what always amazed me though, if the doctors that that got involved in
this and given their opinion on stuff when what they had an autops of report
and some doctor drawings and some doctor X rays. But you know, how
could you even come up with any kind of conclusion medically as to what was
going on when there's no damn info out there to really study. I mean,
it's all been muddied so much. You know, you talk about his
brain being you know, the brains is missing. It's that can't be found
well from what I understand just from reading witness statements and things, like that,
and there want a whole lot of brain left, you know, so
what could you tell other than a devastating head woond from a brain that's been
turned into putting. It just amazes me the amount of discussion that has been
generated by so little evidence. You say that about how there's not much of
the brain left. But here's the problem. When he goes in seventy two
and looks in the archives, there is a photograph of a brain which everybody
who I've ever spoken to that's seen it goes, I don't even know how
there's this much of the brain left. Plus they waited and the weight of
the brain was heavier than a full brain that's undisturbed, usually in a full
grown adult male, you know. And some people might say, well it
took on extra fluid whatever else. But the pictures that exist at the National
Archives, which still the public has not seen, do not show a brain
that's missing a huge amount. It's like, it's not missing that much.
And you know, when you have this explanation and the Suppruterer film out there,
and then you go, look what they're telling us happen, and what
we see in the Zubruder film doesn't make sense, and what they're reporting from
their written reports don't make sense from a real world perspective when it comes to,
you know, us having to do these kinds of examinations, here's what
you would assume the evidence to be. I think that's the way Cyril started.
And then later on, you know, like I said, the Zubruter
film makes its way out there, he gets to the International Archives, the
bootleg set gets out there. I mean, you get a lot of looks
at this stuff, and as time goes on, more and more what happens
it doesn't match the storyline, right, Well, this isn't. And that's
what gives me about the National Archives. I mean, anybody that had access
to go into the Archives and could go in and look at this stuff,
I mean, you know, good and well, they had a set.
This is what we're going to show people. They had a set amount of
exhibits or documents or whatever. That's what they're going to show people. And
there's no way in hell that what they put together as their showpieces matched what
actually happened. I mean, the government basically went out of their way to
muddle everything involved in this. It just amazes me the amount of discussion that
comes up on what basically is so little evidence. I wouldn't trust the National
Archives to show me anything and say that that's legit, that's the document that
was generated, or this is the medical evidence that we have. These are
the photographs. I wouldn't trust them to show me the real thing because I
don't think that. I think they've got to set up show file. This
is what we're going to give people, which in no way reflects what actually
happened. And I think they do it on purpose, just to keep things
muddled up. Yeah, but see, may be wrong, but it seems
to me that that's what's happening. Your government agencies are putting false information out
there to continue a discussion that nobody's going to ever be able to agree upon.
And it's all by this well see, And that's the weird thing,
because the battle for many years was this, A guy like Weck says,
look, the evidence doesn't match, and then you get somebody else like John
Latimer or some of these other people that were allowed to go in there and
examine this stuff, and they go, now, you see, I got
to look at all forty of the photographs, you know, like the fox
set is only what ten photographs all together, but there's like forty of them
in existence at the National Archives, right, and you have to get the
special permission from the Kennedy family and all that. But they go they look
at this evidence, or they show the doctors, you know, like Nova
got the special permission if you remember, in nineteen eighty eight, to take
the Dallas doctors in and let them spend a little time viewing the evidence privately.
I don't know if you remember that show from eighty eight, remember the
Who Killed JFK in eighty eight BBS special. Yeah, well so they go
in and they say, well, yeah, it kind of looks like what
I saw, but not quite. You know, something's a little off,
but basically okay. So they're telling us that this stuff that only a handful
of people ever got to see on the one side, is not matches.
This makes sense. And then you got guys like this or G. Mantic
or whoever else who got in saying no, this doesn't make sense. I
mean Mantic claims that it's a forgery because there's a big white patch and the
X ray because don't forget, there's not just the forty photographs or so,
but there's X rays, the photographs of the brain. The brain was photographed,
but again doesn't look like what anybody would expect to see, considering having
a whole bunch of brain matter blown out of his head and leaking out onto
a stretcher and end. Right. So, you know, I get what
you're saying. But at the same time, today you or I could walk
into the National Archives. We can get in there and we can see five
million documents, but we can't look at the medical evidence still. You know,
L's something I've never understood is how the Kennedy family has so much holdover
given mission to see something that is basically evidence in a crime that was committed
on the President of the United States, who basically is you know, it's
an office held that represents the entire public. You know, how in the
hell did the Kennedys get all this authority to say, no, we won't
want this, we don't want that. It just killed I mean, this
whole faith. From the second after it happened, the government went in cover
your ass mode, and I mean they just screwed up everything. I wouldn't
trust, even the documents that are being released under this this new law.
You know, they're they're throwing them out there in dribs and drabs. I
don't trust anything to come out of them now, I really don't. And
I don't see how people of any education could put any faith in anything that's
given to them by the government at this point. It's purposely designed to keep
everybody so confused and arguing about it for the next sixty years. Well,
have you ever been to the National Archives? Although I was accused by Ralph
cincopying one of their dirty agents that would go out and you know, steal
evidence and things like that and offer it. And I was one of the
gatekeepers for the National Archives. Oh cool? Did they pay well? Because
a pizza hell out of me. I'm still waiting on the first check.
All right, Well, hey let me know because I'd like to know.
I'll tell you something weird. When I first started, you know, doing
research, and I got into it, you could go and you could make
an appointment, and you could handle Oswald's rifle. You could get them to
lay out the bullets. You could see some of the exhibits, some of
the physical evidence. Even at one point, I'm told and people have taken
photographs. Now, I never did this. Myself. But before I ever
went, you were able actually to look at Kennedy's shirt which was there,
and all kinds of other stuff. But somehow the autopsy stuff was sequestered and
it was claim to be the property of the Kennedy family. Now, I've
got to say that I don't know what legal precedent that's under. I've never
heard anybody question that. I think a lawsuit could be raised even to undo
that, Like, how is it that this belongs to the Kennedy family.
I mean, I get at a certain point they didn't want him to be
an object of morbid curiosity. But the cat is out of the bag there,
you know. But that's just it. The actual brain, yes,
would be property of Jackie Kennedy in his spouse, right, I mean,
everything would revert to her. But the photographs and the X rays as being
part of evidence in a crime, yeah, would not be property of hers.
So when she passed away, I did suddenly this, you know,
did everything change to the kids? Everything went to them? Okay, well
they still got the brain, but any photographs and that would be evidence in
a crime. I don't see how they can claim ownership of something taken by
the national government on one of their employees in the crime of the century.
Yes, yeah, see, that's that's the thing. Though. At one
time, the idea is that the chain of possession goes like this. At
one time that stuff was given to the Kennedy family. They placed it at
the National Archives under a deed of gift right, which by the way,
included not just the brain and uh and and these uh, there was other
stuff too, like the slides. A lot of people don't understand what those
slides are. There's literally tissue slides taken right of the wounds. Uh.
So there's parts, little bits and pieces of JFK are basically sitting in a
metal tray at the National Archives at one point right along with this. That's
what gives me. I've never heard of any state that has performed an autopsy
state that the results of that autopsy were property of the decedents families. It
was property of the state they did the autopsy. It's their official files.
It's evidence in that file. I've never heard of a state giving over control
of photographs and things like that to the next of kin. Try to get
a copy of your medical records, and any hospital or doctor will tell you,
oh, no, those are our records. And you say no,
they're my records. They say no, they're our records. You're just entitled
to a copy. It's going to cost you this much for age. Well,
and that's basically how it's handled. So I don't see how the federal
government can suddenly just turn over everything to the Kennedy family and let them bury
it. See, that's the part that kills me. Yeah, look like
I said, though, like okay, and I think you would agree.
The brain or the tissue slides, which literally are pieces of the man,
now those things returned to the family for burial, for proper disposition. I
think that's kind of the way it should be. The bloody casket and all
that reports. There's you see, there's the confusing part to me, right
there is I don't know how that even came to be, because under what
precedent do you turn over autopsy materials like that? When I went after my
father's autopsy materials personally, right, I couldn't. They wouldn't hand them to
me. They weren't gonna give them to me. And it was twenty years
later and my father wasn't anybody important to anybody else. They weren't gonna give
them to me. Now I gotta look at them, But that was that
was that was kind of an odd situation, and I kind of bullied my
way into that, believe it or not. But uh, but but the
truth is, I wasn't gonna walk out of there with those or even a
copy of them. Oh no. But to see, here's what gets me.
If if I got today under suspicious circumstances, the State of North Carolina
did an autopsy, which they would do automatically. That doesn't become property of
my family or my heirs. The body and the tissues, the actual tissues,
yes, but any photographs, X rays, things like that were done
as part of the autopsy become part of that file. It's a matter of
public record. Then yeah, the records could be sealed through a court action,
right, but just to give somebody, oh here, I'm sorry,
mister Kennedy. We know y'all are big wigs, and y'all got a lot
of political poll and a bunch of lawyers that you can afford to sue us
into oblivion. So we're just going to give you all this crap. I've
never understood that. See, and the other thing that you can't tell me.
I've heard these explanations one hundred times from one hundred experts, right,
is that there is no way in hell that somebody in the federal government didn't
decide to retain the negatives, Okay, didn't decide to retain a record of
this. There is no way that that happened. But the way it's presented
is what we don't know how James K. Fox got a hold of his
set, okay, which makes me assume there's multiple mini sets out there,
right, It's just that Fox actually sold them to somebody. Now, those
were prints, they were just photos, a photo copy, but the original
negatives and all that. I'm almost willing to bet that there is a retained
copy somewhere that just somebody doesn't know how to find, or somebody doesn't want
to find. Well, and I'll give you an example of that. I
had a researcher tell me about six years ago that they went to the archives
to see the famous Altin photo, Okay, and it can't be found.
M Well, the Associated placed or stolen? Well, the Associated Press,
I think the Associated I think the Associated Press still has it. Yeah,
the Associated Press does what was used as actual ev and hearings is missing because
they wanted, you know, the famous marks. This is one another thing
that Sink was was complaining about. He actually highlighted a photo, changed the
lighting, well, it changed the contrast in the photo, and it actually
brought out the second mark because everybody was saying, oh, there's a check
mark on it. And then there's you know, the lawyer that was interviewing,
I think it was Bill Frasier, he had made there was a second
mark on the photo and he referred to there's one in the white and one
in the black. And when Sink altered the contrast on this photo, you
could see the second mark. And he claims that, oh no, no,
no, no, because there's no two marks there. And you know,
it was it was kind of a pretty hilarious matter between a few of
us that here he is trying to prove something didn't app and he does the
exact opposite and boom, the second mark shows up. It's a big argument,
you know, because there was two copies of the autionins. There was
the copy that the Warrant Commission had, right, but there was also a
copy that was sent to Oswalt's mother, and when she testified, she swore
up and down that the you know, everybody thought Billy Lovelady was was Oswalt.
You know, that was the theory that Oswald's right there on the front
porch. Well, her mother or his mother was insisting that no, it
was another person in the photo. So they have her copy that she marked
up during testimony, but the original autions photo that they've used as evidence,
nobody can find. I'm sure it's there. It may been misplaced, or
it could have been an instance where someone like Fetzer went in and shoved it
down their pants, pulling the sandy birder and walked out with it. Who
knows. It's just amazing. Yeah, that's that. You go to look
for it now can't be found. Well, that's the other weird thing is
that when you look at the you know, the Dallas Archives and a couple
of places, you know that a bunch of things were just disappeared as a
matter of souvenirs. I mean, just like what is her name of Geneva
White came up with that other backyard photo, right, and it was like,
hey, guess what I got a version of this? You guys don't
whites? Yeah, yeah, Geneva White. I met Roscoe White's kid that
came up, Well it was actually Roscoe's wife, Geneva had it. Yeah,
and then you know, but later of course, Ricky said, oh,
you know, look that that's other proof of this and that and whatever.
But the thing is, Roscoe just walked out with a photo. You
know, we don't need this anymore, would just take it. And I
think a bunch of stuff leaked out all over the place. I mean,
people at the National Archives. What's to say there isn't you know, one
of these guys who works there a while hasn't also absconded with stuff or other
let's say, less than ethical researchers might have walked in there and walked out
with things. I mean that that I'm certain has happened as well. You
know, they walked out with originally maybe where some of the that may be
where some of these copies of films and everything come from somebody on the inside
making copies and sell them out the back door. Yeah yeah, And there's
the thing like, yeah, that's why to me, some people are pushing
to reopen the case and somebody, you know, I think it's too far
gone to that. But the least the government could do is at least follow
up with their damn law. Maybe Trump will do the next time he gets
in, just go ahead and put it all out there's and release every single
damn thing and let the chips fall where they may. Well, that would
be nice, and that would be nice every time one of these guys is
asked about it, you know, will you do it? Yeah, we'll
do it, And they never do. You know, it never gets done.
And still the Biden administration still dragging its feet, even though it has
released some stuff. And the funny thing is they even release some stuff that
wasn't on the manifest to be released, which was funny. I don't know
if you know that, but there was a whole bunch of documents that weren't
even like on the scheduled list of stuff to be released, and it was
like, where did this come from? You know, everybody, everybody wants
to see Oswalt's tax records. I don't know what they're going to learn from
Oswalt's tax records because any money that he was making from the government is not
going to show up on a damn ten ninety nine. You know, That's
what kills me about this. Oh, we got to see his tax records,
Well, why what is it going to show you? He's going to
show his income from whatever job he supposedly legitimately had any government payments to him.
We're not going to show up on a ten ninety nine as a contractor
or a W two, plain and simple. I mean, that stuff doesn't
happen. Oh, I've been spying from the US for twenty years. I've
made over two billion dollars. Well, really, let us look at your
taxes. You think I'm going to show you two million dollars that was paid
to me by the government for a spine? No, no, no,
and then put it down. Oh yeah, we paid these guys, you
know, six million dollars over this years to spy for us. Bull I
mean, what is his tax records going to show us? To show an
money from the government. That has always cracked me up, by the way,
you're no, you're right that that has always cracked me up. Where
it's like, look if he was really getting I mean because the people that
usually assert that are like, look, he was a government agent and this
and that, and he was working off the books. If you're working off
the books, right, and somebody's paying you for domestic operations that you're not
supposed to be involved in in the first place. They're not going to pay
you with you know, a check, and you're not going to be taking
taxes on it. It's going to be you know, cash or gold or
you know, Bob Menendez style here. Oh, by the way, that
happened this week too. That that's cracking me up. The the other thing.
Nobody's covering the Bob Menendez corruption trial, right, the democrat is a
Democrat involved. But it's hilarious because he well, he's trying to throw his
wife under the bus. And now she comes out to you know this week,
and oh, I have breast cancer, by the way, so they're
going to delay her separate trial. You know, I'm like wow. But
meanwhile he's at least partially trying to throw her under the bus. Yeah.
Good. It kills me over all these years that anybody involved in this honestly
thinks that the government's going to kill them a straight story. Come on,
it's the government. Well I love the smoking gun document idea too, where
it's like we're going to get this one document that's gonna and it's like,
look, we need to study these things because yes, it'll give us insight
and understanding into stuff. But there's not going to be a document that comes
out and says, look, we the members of the Name and Organization decided
to kill John F. Kennedy, and here's who we use, here's who
we paid, here's how we got people those travel arrangements. You think there's
going to be a document, a single thing that comes out there and says
this is how it was done. Boom in a nutshell. I mean,
really do you think that? Because I think it's worthy of study, all
of it, But it doesn't that that one smoking gun idea. I mean,
you know, come on, guys, and I think the only thing,
even if everything was released today, I think all it's going to do
is eliminate a lot of theories that have been brought up over the years so
and so is involved, or so and so this so and so. That
it's going to weed out a lot of stuff. But there's not one damn
document out there that I think is going to point to anything that you could
pin down to somebody and say, see he was involved. Now just pick
up person. If you had one person that you do was actually involved,
then people that actually performed the art of journalism could start looking into who was
he hanging out with, who did do business with, who was in his
circle, and start going out from there. But you're not even gonna get
that one document to tell you this person was definitely involved, not from the
government. Yeah. See, the interesting thing is, I mean what has
been helpful is stuff like, Okay, now we know where Johnny Roselli was,
you know, as opposed to people trying to put him in dealy plaza.
Now we know where this guy was. You know, now we know
who this guy was in contact with, because finally some of these things have
come out. But like you said, it's a lot more helpful in eliminating
nonsense than it is in actually building the case, because again it's not going
to be like, well, here's the one guy we know for certain was
definitely except of course, you know, big huge studies on Lee Harvey Oswald,
which you know, we get more and more documentation on this guys.
Yeah. James Files is a good example. When he first when his name
first came out, it was found that he was in a hospital because some
family member or somebody was having surgery. He wasn't even in the area.
But what did he get changed him too, Oh, y'all. He put
his teeth marks on a shell and left it for people to find and blah
blah blah blah blah, like du we already settled this long time ago.
He wasn't even in the state. He was somewhere else. He was busy,
So let's just put that to the side. But no, these things,
I don't know. It's like a dustball starts out with a couple of
grains, and they pick up the odd hair and the fuzz off the carpet
and this, and they grow and they grow, and the next thing you
know, you got a ball of dust under your bed. Where the hell
did he come from? He's something they just generated over time. And that's
what this whole case is a bunch of little dustballs that have grown and now
people want to put value in them for informational purposes. And it's all bunk.
It's all bunked. Ninety nine percent of what you read out there on
the Kennedy case is bunk. Sadly, I can't argue with you too much.
I mean again, like I said, the examination of these things so
far has helped us eliminate a lot of nonsense that's it. But it hasn't.
It hasn't. I keep hoping, I keep hoping, But you know
it's difficult, man. And the dust bunny circumstance. I get that too,
because after a while, you know, when a dust money starts to
grow enough, I mean, after a while, you see a little piece
of dust blow around. Okay, went under the couch, went under the
bed. I'll get it next time I see it. But if you keep
letting that thing grow, after a while, it's about as big as a
muskrat. And then you're not sure what you're catching out of the corner of
your eye when the ceiling van grabs it. I gotta tell you it's it's
just like that. Anyway. We got a call her. I have found
living a house with hardwood floors, and you'll see exactly how dust buddies generate,
right, and they'll travel right. I mean, you know, somebody
shuts the door real hard. All of a sudden, one goes under one
couch from you know, under one couch to the other, and you think
maybe you got a mouse, but no, it's a dust this house here,
I'm trying to figure out where the hell all this dust is coming from.
I mean I could write a move of the dust buddy that ate Chicago.
I mean, I can script it just sitting here watching how this stuff
accumulates. And I know I generate a lot of dust in remodeling, but
I've got a pretty damn good shot back, and I go over a lot
of stuff. It doesn't help shift back in today at eight o'clock in the
morning. You got dust at five o'clock at night. And I don't know
where they hell it's coming from, fair enough, So anyway, three one
nine, five two seven five zero one six. We got one caller on
the line, anybody else he wants to join while we're live. It's about
forty minutes after the hour, after eight o'clock, yeah, Eastern, all
the way up until we start the Age of Transitions at ten pm. And
I think Uncle will take calls. But I don't think Aaron's gonna take him
again tonight. I don't know. I didn't get the directive yet, but
that's where he's going. And we did the one hour Sira wec thing.
I did that by myself and played some clips from Cyril himself, because I
think that was the best way to pay tribute to him. Is to just
let him speak one more time. Anyways, looks like we got I think
this is Jimmy James on the line. Jimmy is that you? Yeah,
it's me. Can you hear me? All right? Yeah? You sound
okay, no crackle this time, So go for it. Man, what's
on your mind? Well? I agree with you guys on those documents.
I don't think that you're gonna solve your way out of paper sack. It's
just no. But you got to agree. It does help us to eliminate
a lot of crap if you can start to place. You know, like
I said, we know where Johnny Roselli was. Now you know what I
mean, if he was under surveillance, and if this guy was under surveillance.
I mean, the FBI is not going to cover for them to go
to Dally Plaza, you know, if they're four states away, or if
they're sitting in Vegas or Los Angeles or et cetera, et cetera. Right,
I mean, just like the guy that they keep claiming from Georgia was
supposed to be in Dealely Plaza. Good. Yeah, they have been a
godsend. I mean, no doubt about that. I mean, otherwise people
with Christ still be writing books about Howard Hunt. Yeah right, where are
they? Who knows? Is stay tuned, you know, toward the end
of the year you'll probably see more. But yeah, no, I agree
with you. And Glad, glad you're you're here in our points. You
got anything else on your mind tonight or you want to talk about this some
more, It's all on you, uh BPT. I watched a video from
the Nixon Library that was made about ten fifteen years ago called the Miss the
Mysteries of Watergate something like that, and the guy in it was kind of
a minor attorney at the time, working through Nick Son or some such thing,
and interestingly he brought up he says Howard Dean was behind the layoffs.
So I would assume also to miss hump hmm, I could agree with that.
I mean Dean, well, Dean was up to his neck in it
until he thought they were going to come after him, and then he started
squealing like a rat. And I have to agree with Gordon Lyddy on that
he was a rat. He was trying to cover his own butt as soon
as he thought they were tossing him under the bus. Then he said exactly
I'm going out, Well, I'm going out by taking all you with me.
It's my and I don't know if they covered this, Jimmy in the
in what you watched, but they had a slush fund that they were paying
for the guys that went into the Watergate, covering their costs. They had
quite a bit of cash to float around. I think I've read something it
was over two million just for dirty tricks and and that didn't want to go
on the books. And it's my understanding that that's where the money she was
found with came from. It will cover any of that. Yeah. At
one point on one of the tapes, right, Dean says to him,
look, I think these people are going to cost you like a million dollars
over the course of a certain amount of time, and Nixon says something like,
well, I know where we can get that. I mean, I
don't think he actually says where they can get it from, but he says,
I know where we can get that. We can get that done,
and then he changes on something. The two million comes up in my mind
that that that that was a slush fund that they had readily available. I'm
sure they had access to other money just through some of the backers of Nixon
for certain things. But for some reason that that amount of two million to
kick around with kims up and I don't know where I got it from it
maybe, but I know that at one point Dean literally says, a million
is what we need now. It could be that they needed more after that,
or it could be that they were already through the two million, or
they were working on that two million. He was worried they were going to
run out. I don't know about. You know, the buying power of
a million dollars in the seventies, it's like cash. Well, that's why
you could take care of a whole team with a million dollars. I mean
today, could you take care of ten guys with a million dollars? Probably?
Not? You know about with Biden Biden's inflaced Oh hell no, man,
I mean please, you couldn't even buy Domino's pizza for her families for
a year with a million dollars probably, you know what I mean? Yeah?
Yeah, so yeah, absolutely no. Would Bidenomics forget it? I
mean, what do you need? Ten million? Maybe million bucks apiece,
but not no million dollars for the team. Now in nineteen seventy one or
whatever. That might have worked million dollars. You know, let's see what
the equivalency is. Let me look that up. If they tell you the
truth about that, which you know. That was another weird story this week
about the tenth of a percent of change in the inflation, and they were
like like, oh great, this is great, and then the stock market
rocketed. I think today it closed out even higher, like on its ultimate
high today, right based on the news that, oh the you know,
the inflation is slowing down by a tenth of a percent. It went down.
I don't know. I mean, you feeling that buying power coming to
you this week? I'm not not at all. Yeah, I mean,
you know, did it change your price of you know, of Dave's single
at Wendy's. It didn't as far as I know. You got to go
ahead. But they always released these crazy figures and then they'll alter it a
week two and then the newspaper I have it on page twenty five. Yeah,
but if you can even find a newspaper anymore, I mean, you
know, that's the other weird thing going on. Anyways. Yeah, so
here we are still trying to sort this out Watergate, though, man,
a million dollars could take care of a team in nineteen seventy or seventy one
one, though, I think, but you know, seventy two by then,
Yeah, by the time I was born, I think a million dollars
was still quite substantial. Oh let's see, here's a CPI inflation calculator says
that a million dollars in nineteen seventy one is worth about seven million, seven
hundred and forty one nine and twenty five dollars in ninety three cents today.
Yeah, so approaching eight million. And yeah, I can imagine that eight
million dollars to take care of that team for you know, a year or
two. Yeah, maybe that might work. I mean, if you're paying
legal fees off a different fund, because you know, lawyers are expensive,
but just paying their basic expenses, keeping them on hold, making sure their
families aren't starving while they're locked up. Yeah, you could do that with
seven eight million dollars, why not? But a million back then take some
research and see if Liddy ever said exactly how much he got paid for his
part. Well, he was more of a true believer, I you know,
well he was a company man. Yeah, I mean, so I
don't know if he would have ever revealed what he actually got or if he
was even in on all the slush funds, because you know, at a
certain point he was just like, I'm gonna do my time. Uh.
And I don't know if you know they saw him as breaking off from the
group and not you know, getting involved in the group discussions anymore. I
don't know. It's an odd thing, you know. Lyddy was a unique
character, I'll tell you that for sure. Very similar to that guy on
that HBO special. Yeah, he was in that CI boy. Why was
he playing with CIA boys anyway? Yeah, that's a really good question.
He was. He basic imol. He went to jail for conspiracy, burglory
and illegal wire tapping. So I'm sure some of the some of the assets
used in what they were doing came from the CIA. Yeah. I think
what happened there, Jimmy, is that you know, it's not about FBI
and CIA at that point, because some of the guys that Hunt assembled are
not exactly at the top of the CIA's list anymore either. These are not
A listers, right, These are guys that should functionally know how to do
stuff, but they're no longer you know, favorable with the agencies that they
were taught by, you know what I mean, except McCord. McCord might
have still been favorable, But the rest of those guys, I think they
had sort of not had a lot of steady work because they weren't as useful
as they once were, And I think this was their opportunity to get back
in sort of, you know, be part of the President's organization of intelligence
people. So that's a separate thing from the FBI, CIA or any of
those proper agencies. It was like an independent contractor kind of thing. So
why not Lyddy, Why not an FBI guy? Why not an o NI
guy? Why not a CIA guy? Why not you know, these guys
if they have some skills and they can still be useful and they're not directly
employed by one of those agencies any longer. You know, it's sort of
like Gordon Novell, who was a weird character, that guy. You know,
he's constantly getting involved in all kinds of weird stuff, but nobody wanted
him to be, you know, a full on agent for the CIA or
anything like that. He was fairly skilled with electronic surveillance allegedly, but you
know, outside of that. And then later on he gets involved with what's
the guy with the car, Oh man, the the car that's in Back
to the Future, Oh, Delian DeLorean, Right, he gets involved with
DeLorean and the Independent car company. And I mean he was again another guy
for hire who had some skills that were still useful well in espionage in general,
but uh, you know, no longer would he be He couldn't be
hired by one of the agencies, you know, like regular So the Cubans.
The Cubans were kind of uh yeah, that makes sense. They they
didn't have a lot to do right then, because no one would let them
mess around with at the time. Well, right, because as soon as
you know, Kennedy dies and Bobby's out, Johnson doesn't give a crap anymore.
So he's got no use for them. He tells the CIA, Yeah,
forget all that crap, and uh, these guys are sitting out there
going, well, what about our funding, what about keeping us going?
What about you know, No, we don't have anything. So you know,
they were sitting there again, maybe they were partially trained, maybe they
were you know, partially in the know at one point, but no longer
useful to the the current operations, so you know, the unemployed contractors of
the UH, of the intelligence community. Basically, right, McCord was found
religion while he was in and came out a pastor or something. No,
no, no, no, no, McCord was the comedy, that's right,
Charles. Yeah, he's the one. Yeah. Colson's the one who
even wrote a book about becoming born again. I think after his Watergate experiences.
I'll double check on that, but I'm pretty sure that's Coulson who writes
about it. Yeah. Well, no, as soon as Jimmy said that,
yeah, he was the comedy, I was Yeah, I realized I
was wrong. It was Coulson, Charles Coulson. And it was funny what
came out since then, though, you look at what went on behind the
scenes. You know, Nixon had this group of plumbers which which actually got
started back during the Pentagon papers when they were real lease, that's when they
came up with this little group to start plugging leaks and see what they could
do to control the damage out of it. Because you know Nixon, Nixon
pulled that we're going to get out of Vietnam, but he waited until second
term to start trying to put that into effect. When the Pentagon papers came
out, it kind of ruined everything in that, you know that people were
seeing what the government was actually you know, giving them a snow job on
and it was really the first time what was it was at the Was it
the Washington Post that went to court over it? And after winning their court
case was able to continue publishing on the Pentagon? Yeah, yeah, they
were. They were held up in court somebody was suing them over the release
of the information, and the going wait a minute, you know, we
didn't steal this, This stuff was brought to us. We can publish this.
And it was, you know, a landmark ruling that still is in
effect today and which kind of gets me over this Julian Thessance thing. You
know, he basically published stuff that came to him. They want to accuse
him of being part of the party that got the stuff, and that's the
hang up on him. You know, it's suddenly, oh, Washington Post,
you know, they ran this story about Watergate and and you know,
we've got to see a movie out of it. All the president's men came
out of the whole damn deal. Well, and then now suddenly so many
years later, Assance does the same thing. Oh well, this's accuse him
of being actually involved in getting the information and then we can come down on
him. It just kills me the way the journalists aren't taking up for somebody
over this crap. Right. So Nixon turns around and tries to you know,
pretty much squash the guy who dumped the Pentagon papers out there to begin
with, right, and that's the original operation. But then, you know,
but then it gets involved with the whole committee to re elect the president,
right, the creep thing. And like I said, these are guys
who needed something to do, and you know they had some skills. Uh
again, you know, the one guy was an instructor for black bike operations
of the CIA, which packs me up forgives me. You know, people
don't realize that the government, the citizens really had no idea what was going
behind the scenes, and what you know, the Pentagon papers started it.
Watergate kind of let them know that, you know, everything that you think
your government is is not all honky dory. It opened a lot of people's
eye. Well, it took the mask off and people were able to see
the government for what it was actually was, which I'm amazed that people haven't
gotten more critical of what the government has been doing the past, you know,
forty years. Well, when you add that thing, yeah, see
when you add that to the trouble over Vietnam and you know, the information
about the Meli massacre, you know, reaching the masses and all that kind
of stuff, right, I mean, it gets to a certain point where
it's like, I guess Dixon wanted it all shut down, you know,
shut the hell up. Stop telling the dirty laundry, whether it should be
dirty or not as irrelevant, and he wanted to shut things down. And
this is the point, right. The plumbers were there to plug the leaks,
and that was the thing. Stop leaking this stuff. I mean,
we don't need to make it any worse. I don't want more protests against
me, you know. I mean Johnson pretty much left town and with his
head hanging because he didn't want to deal with this. I don't want this
crap going either. I wanted to stop. And you know, you don't
give the American public more negativity to chew on. Maybe it'll stop. I
think, you know, I think that's why Johnson didn't want to run.
I think that's why he bowed out. He I think he knew this stuff
was going to hit the fan, probably one which I figured if he went
away, people would leave him alone, right And as his well it didn't.
It didn't have to work for too long. He was dead not long
after, right, so you know he didn't make it that long after that.
Yeah, that was the end of it. But now I concur there.
But Nixon, I think felt like he could stop this, you know,
put a stop to the mess that kept coming from it. But who
knows. You know, it's hard to really put yourself in the mind of
a guy like Richard Nixon because and still I think he was unfairly trampled on
by history here. But you know that's me. What can I say.
I mean his famous line that you know America thinks that their president is a
crook. Well I'm not a crook. Well yeah he was. I mean,
just go ahead and be at what you are. He wasn't about to
do it. But you know, Nixon got caught up in a time where
things were the news. At that time, we were limited as to what
we would get. You either got it in a newspaper or you got it
on your three major networks at night and of course, you know, they
were all controlled by the government anyway, so they're only going to let certain
things out. But yeah, Nixon was a crook. He just happened to
not get his caught on everything that was going and all. But I think
that's when the shade got lifted and people were finally able to see. Now,
whether they wanted to accept it or not is another thing, but they
were finally able to see that your government isn't always working in your best interests.
See. But by comparison, I still say that Nixon did stuff that
he really didn't think he would ever have to pay a consequence for because he
thought it was quite normal. I don't think he saw it as you know.
And that's the thing, like when he's on the Frost interview going,
well, if the president does it, it's not illegal. I really think
he believed that it wasn't some justification he was pulling out of thin air.
He really thought he was entitled to do what he was doing. But anyway,
well, there are certain things that if the president does it, it's
not illegal. He just pushed that boundary so far that I think he thought,
no matter what he did, it was not illegal. Yeah, it's
just I don't know ego. Well, you're dealing with ego with these people,
and Nixon sure had one. But even so he figured that, you
know, look, I don't have all of the dirty laundry these other guys
had. I mean, even Eisenhower had had a mistress, right, I
mean, but he didn't have anything, you know, he didn't have any
of that. So he figured, look, I'm not I'm not a boozer.
I'm not doing drugs. I'm not banging Marilyn Monroe. I'm not you
know, with the Captain whatever her name is, that you know, the
secret woman that comes in is supposedly a military aid, is actually his mistress,
you know. In the case Eisenhower, none of that. I don't
do any of that crap. So what the hell am I getting my balls
busted for? I don't know. That's the way I figured Nixon saw it.
But anyway, let's see how you see it. In the next hour.
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six b Pete. I didn't check in with you before I went back to
live because I kind of had to jump on it. But uh, yeah,
weird things happening around the old homestead over here. Well, the reason
I asked you home, I've had some semi naked news. Apparently we've got
uh cool. Georgia police arrested a man who is accused of ejaculating on a
stranger inside the Whole food stores. Oh Cold County, there's there's a Whole
food Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, whoa hold
on? Yeah? Oh seriously, seriously. When I first saw this,
I thought, what how do you do that? What the hell I mean
talking about taking a shot at somebody? Wasn't the Whole Foods? That's What
got me was the whole there's a whole food for you. I looked at
up. The Calb County is right next to it. In fact, ten
percent of Atlanta bleeds over into the Calb County it does. Okay, that's
weird because I thought that was another county that that's like real recognizable, like
Cobb or something like that. But anyway, the Cab is partially UH Atlanta's
in Decab. Yeah, ten percent is on the eastern side. Ten percent
of it falls into UH, into the Cab County. The county seat at
the Cow County is decatered. Okay, so right next to Atlanta. But
when I saw this story, I was thinking, you know, Peachtree Street,
it's got to be connected to Atlanta somehow. So actually, you know,
ten percent of the tounty is located in this can cross this county line.
But the story and this is I got some whole foods for you.
All right, Hell, let's get into it. Let me read the full
story here. This is carried by UH let's see the Postmillennial dot com and
reported by Katie Davis Court, who's in Seattle, Washington. Of all places,
Georgia police arrested a man who's accused of ejaculating on a stranger inside a
whole food store. Troy Callist twenty eight, was arrested on Monday and has
been booked into the calv County Jail on artists that include sexual battery and publican
decency. The incident that court at a Whole food store located at five thousand
and one pe Street Boulevard near Claremont Road. The victim, doctor Sabine Lavelle,
told Chambley police that the suspect had ejaculated on her. Says, I
see this gentleman walking down the aisle who's pretending to be shopping, and he's
holding a basket. Hey, look kind of like a normal gentleman, late
twenties, early thirties. Nothing like extra suspicious about them, Lavelle recanned.
I've bent over to grab the chips, and as I was doing that,
I felt something wet and warm on my back. Okay, hold on,
hold on, hold hey, wait, wait, wait wait, wait,
hold on a second, because I pulled up this article. First of all,
before you get into the rest of this description, let me catch my
breast because it's just messed up. But also, can these people not write
English? At the what is this the post millennial because look the victim,
doctor Sibbie told uh Chambley police that the suspect had a jat. Okay,
Lavelle recanted to Fox five. Now, when you recan't, doesn't that mean
you actually pull back your story if you recan't, yes, okay. When
you recant a confession, it means oh no, I was lying. Well,
yeah, if you recan't, they meant to say, or recounted maybe
right, yeah, recounted yes, okay. So the first problem is these
guys are not writing in proper English for sure, because she recanted the story.
Okay, so she's taken it back to recant. Now, just from
from the Oxford Language Dictionary, say that one no longer holds an opinion or
belief, especially one considered uh heretical. Okay, so it means to pull
back a belief. So, in other words, according to that statement,
she's pulling back this story. But that's not what they meant to say here
now, next paragraph. Because I pulled up the article, I had to
see this for myself. And there's a picture of the guy in the article
too, by the way, at the Whole Foods where it's already you know
pricey to go in there. Look at what else you gotta deal with?
Holy crap. Anyway, I'm sorry, please continue with the article now.
But just wow, Well, I mean, the Whole Foods is known for
their you know, organic products that they sell. So okay, where else
would you hear something like this? I would figure this. I'll put a
link to the article in the room. But look, you've been to the
Piggy Wiggling near my house. I expect this kind of thing at the Piggly
Wiggling near my house. You've been there, right, Hey, I am
not I am not gonna let you be smirched. The name of Pigley as
a Southern institution that's known for its high quality meats and low prices. But
okay, all right, pig in general is one thing. But the Pigley
Wiggling near my house. Tell me that if I told you an assault like
this took place at the one near my house, you'd go, yeah,
okay, I get it. I could see it, yeah, right,
Or if I told you this happened at the McDonald's, which, by the
way, did I ever tell you this story about the lady that lived across
the street from us that like was having beef with us, and then uh,
oh, okay, real quick. What happened is when we were living
in the trailer park, at one point a black family moved across the way
from us and was told by somebody else in the park that we were very,
very racist, and that we were a big problem for them because we
were highly racist, okay, and that we were picking on their kids because
we're racist. Anyways, it finally got straightened out when we wound up talking
to them directly ourselves. But these people were of a certain mindset, and
I'll tell you how much of a mindset they were of. The woman was
working at the circle k down here, which you've also been to, right
by my house, and she went and left work to go get food for
her and her kids at the McDonald's. Okay, they made her wait for
French fries so long that she got pissed and shot up the McDonald's. Okay,
And this she thought was reasonable, to the point of she went,
now you know where the McDonald's is. That's right by my house, right
and you know where the circle k is. Now, think about this.
She went with her kids shot up the McDonald's because they didn't give her her
fries quick enough, then drove back ready for this to work at the circle
K just down the street. And not like I'm gonna flee, I'm gonna
disappear, No, I'm just I'm going back to work now. I shot
up to McDonald's. I proved my point and went back to work at the
Circle K with her kids and everything. We go down to the circle K,
okay, just to go get cigarettes or whatever, and they're putting her
SUV up on a flatbed and taking it as evidence because she just shot up
the McDonald's. Meanwhile, like I said, a couple of days before,
we had a near miss, Like I was thinking she was gonna shoot up
our house because they were worried that we were these big time racists picking on
them for being black. Okay, I'm not kidding. This is not a
made up story. You can ask missus O about it anytime you want.
But I'm just trying to tell you something here. That's the kind of neighborhood
I'm in. Okay, so it would not be a surprise if this occurred
at the Pigley Wiggley or the Family Dollar over here. Okay. Well,
they sort of remind me the next time we go for burgers late at night
to wear my kevlar vest. Well, that's why we went to the burger
I think we went to Burger King, didn't we. Yeah? Yeah,
because it's in a better neighborhood. I'm not kidding. Okay, anyway,
this is all right, So back to this story from me from the post
millennial. Oh my god, the Whole Foods. There is a Whole Foods
like on the edge of making by the way, And there's one of these
other like it's a Whole Foods knockoff, sort of one of these, you
know, natural grocery stores. Super expensive. I can't afford the shop there,
and I imagine this one is super expensive too, which is why I'm
a little shocked at the clientele. But please continue on with this Lady's this
lady Lavelle, who she did not recant her statement, even though Fox five
says she recanted her statement. Yeah, please, please go please. She
bet over to grab some potato chips, Yeah, she says. I bet
over to grab the chips, and as I was doing that, I felt
something like wet and warm on my back. So I put my hand on
the small of my back and then I saw that it was like this gooey
white substance. And I turn around and I see this guy looking at me
and he zips his pants up. The victim said, oh god, I
don't know if I can put the on YouTube. Now. Okay, I'm
not sure because of that description alone, but yeah, go ahead. Oh
whoa, you know what's really funny here the next part. Go ahead.
Yeah. This is the final sentence of the story. Lavelle the seat on
surveillance video footage chasing the suspect out of the store. Oh my god.
And I wonder if that tell me that footage is not online somewhere. Is
that on TikTok? That's gotta be on TikTok? Oh wow, I don't
know. Let me let me search for videos. Here. I built something
warm and went on my back and I noticed, Ah, I'd love to
recant that whole visual I just got in my head. And meanwhile, there's
a picture of the suspect at the top of the article when it blurred out
whole foods behind them. Oh my god, what I have to give Fox
Let's see, I can't find a video, but I have to give Fox
five Atlanta. Yeah, credit for the way they describe this man pleasure's self
leaves bodily fluids on shopper. Police. Chamblin police say a man performed a
sexual act on himself in the middle of the whole store and left his bottle
fluids on a victim. I mean, and what are you gonna say to
that when you go to court. I mean, I wasn't aiming for your
honor. I just well, I don't see any video for this story other
than what the news has got. I guess Fox five Atlanta might have a
wow, you know, footage of somebody standing out front with the microphone saying,
and here we are at the whole food store where so and so was
arrested. This is crazy. Yeah, somebody in the chatroom is saying,
you know, anybody pulled that is looking to get themselves killed. You know,
I'm sure if that lady will not alone, somebody might have tried to
shoot that guy. I guess she didn't have a gun, but she went
running after him. And that's the end of the story. As well as
a good thing it didn't happen to your neighbor. Oh man, she definitely
she would have shot up the whole joint. I'm telling you, Yeah,
they made me wait for fries and she thought she was just the funniest part
about all that is she did not like understand why she was in jail afterwards
either. It's like, anyway, this guy might say, you know what,
I didn't mean to hit her. I don't know. I didn't realize
she was in my line of fire. See now that's not a fair Okay,
there's an unfair question in the chat room. Was she hot? Maybe
he couldn't help himself. That's not right. Guys. Come on, I
mean, you you can't be in public and not see I mean, you
see a hot girl and you can't you can't, like, you know,
at least go into the bathroom to go handle yourself. Literally the hell,
oh my god, I can't believe you dug up this story for naked News.
It's partially naked. It was on the news site that I look at,
and they kind of cover every topic that they can find, so I
was surprised. But you know, when you think about Whole Foods and some
of the nut jobs that go there, I seem a fitting spot. Well
she got covered anyway, Yikes, what a horrifying story like? Let me
ask you a question. If this happened to you or somebody you were with,
do you think that you'd have the ability to process this and react after
you? Like, I'm surprised she had the wherewithal to run after him.
She's like, wait a minute, I'm wet, it's warm, it's sticky
like ah, and she went and ran after him. I'm speechless. How
long did the guys stand there? Like? Did he? He? Hey?
Listen, I couldn't help myself. Can I get your number? You
know? Again? I don't know if I should put this on YouTube?
Am I gonna get in trouble? There's no telling. I'm trying to look
up doctor level into cal County to see if we can find a picture of
her. But as soon as I mean, I do a search for doctor
Lavell to Calb County and everything that comes up as man charged with sexual battery
after a leg incident. Well. The other thing is, can you imagine
wanting to talk to the TV news about this? Like I like, hey,
newspeople, I'll tell you what happened. I don't know if I'd be
able to talk about it. Well all right, well, I mean the
WSB, Yeah, is that a station down there? I think it's a
I think that's what he called up there. What's that more expensive town.
It's probably north of here, WSB. Okay, God, was just wondering.
I mean, their headline on their footage on the news story is woman
screams for help, chases after man who assaulted her at Whole Foods. So
they're focused on the WSB TV is Yeah, it's in Atlanta station. Okay,
so that yeah, that's north of Their other story is man charged with
sexual battery after woman chases it down in Metro Atlanta Whole Foods. Yeah,
well that WSB might be the Sinclair station here. I wonder what kind of
bond we just put under. We're gonna MSN story here. We'll see if
we can find out what his bail was. I mean, I guess that's
sexual assaults. Yeah, sexual batteries what they charged him with. Oh the
series, well, yeah, publican decency because he had it out. You
know, that's a very east forming you know, an act on himself in
public, which is yeah, that's enough for indecent exposure. Oh man least
say they have security camera video of the incident, but I can't find where
it's been released yet. So maybe that'll eventually come out here shortly, but
another quote of her, maybe that'll come out. Come on, Come on,
be Pete with the jokes, Maybe that'll eventually come out. Yeah you
know so? Well yeah, well, since she was covered, she says,
at first I thought someone spilled coffee on me. But then I turned
around and saw this man zip zip up his pants. With context clues,
I realized what happened. Jimmy James clues. Jimmy James, context clues.
What do you think of this this news story? Be Pete pound, My
client is that woman was dressed scandalously inappropriately. It was a public nuisance.
It was bound to happen. Wow, she was asking for it. Huh
how was she dressed? Well? She she was bent over getting potato chips.
Right according to her own story. This is all elaborate frame by his
enemies. Thank you, all right, fair enough, We'll put Jimmy on
hold again. God, somebody else call in and comment on this place.
Could you imagine being the public defender that gives assigned this case. See that's
the thing. I can't imagine being the news story guy handling this or interviewing
her, or her being willing to tell like she apparently gave statements I would
I don't even think I would want I'd be like, ook, I ain't
talking about this. Oh see, the last thing I'd want to do is
get up there and talk about something that happened like that. I mean some
people, I don't know. Some people just have no no boundaries. I
mean, would you really want to discuss with five news stations you know,
parked outside to out? Man? Can we get a quote about the alleged
ejaculation? I mean, come on, I just you're I'm like you,
I'd walk away from it. And I don't want to talk to a soul.
I'll see you in gord I. I seem to have a Skype message
and uh I am. I guess I'm gonna bring somebody in here. Uh.
And it's a voice we have not heard from in some time. Hold
on, let's see I can bring him on. Oh man, I'm almost
speechless. Hold on a second here, Let's see see if I can bring
them in. I want to get his comments on this as well. And
uh, maybe if you guys call in three one nine five two seven five
zero one six, you can talk to me about this. Let me know
what you Uh, what you think. I did not expect this news story
from beat Pete at all. I did not expect it to be local Whole
Foods any of it. And still I'm not sure if we can put this
on YouTube or not, but I do have a skype joining a person joining
us on skype, and uh yeah, so your your comments go ahead.
What's happening? Yeah? How you doing exactly the news? Dude? I
was sitting I'm like, oh, I got to give me a piece of
this shit jacking off the Whole Foods. And right after he talked about that
crazy bitch. And when Shovin Donalds walked back to circle k out not breaks
help. Yeah, she went back to work with her kids and just like,
well breaks over. I can just sleeping people in this world. At
Chump, I was just sitting there thinking, Okay, I read the article.
He just came up. Didn't seem like he was doing anything out of
the ordinary. I'm thinking, okay, so what he is like one pump
Chump just was undoes himself, pulls it out because it's one good yank,
like a shotgun, and it goes off. Jobs done, and he's dipping
his pants up or something like that man. That's just fucking weird. I'm
curious though, his whole food's gonna do away with their small baskets because you
can obscure a possible sexual assault by teaching replaced basket. Well, they better
raise the chips up off the floor because she was bent over picking up a
bag of chips. I mean, well, you know they do have those
hand scanners in there now, right, so you can pay for everything.
Well, why don't they just reconfigure that a little bit to see if there's
any like extra substances on there, and if there is, then you don't
get allowed in there, you know, black light check out or black light
check him? Ye deeply? Do you want to hand? Like? Sorry
Holmes? And by the way, sweatpants aren't allowed in the store, so
do you want to what do you do of unknown substances? We can't let
you in. I mean, would you handle the scanner after after the guy?
After this guy? I won't use one to begin with, but there's
a lot of people that wouldn't mind. There's a lot of stupid people just
like that bitch and went back to work after shooting a McDonald's. Man.
I gotta tell you, man, you know, it almost makes you think
that that six foot social distancing might have been a good idea, because I
doubt he could make it six feet. I mean, how close was he?
That's another weird question here. Nobody asked her that right, how close
was he? That this ends up on her back she thinks she's hit with
coffee. I mean, well, another thing too, is you know we're
talking about distances. It can go for something disgusting to where it's like,
oh, that's respect rospect. I guess you know anybody does Anybody doesn't recognize
the voice, uh naughty by Nature? You can go look that up because
this nature boy who is also the voice is still still o'chelly dot com.
You hear his voice on there, and he's out doing his own thing.
Matter of fact, you just did a really interesting interview if you want to
talk about that. But whatever you want to talk about your ear up.
I want to talking about this naked news and crazy fucking people in the Call
County that's not far away from my dad lives, who's are on the side
of Chattahoochee. So I mean, all all the crazy people, I guess
are kind of migrating a little bit north into the rich Hill country. Well
they're not exactly sane down where I am either, But man, I would
not expect this at a Whole Foods freaks apparently. I guess it's something whether
it's you know, handheld, well, I guess they're both hands. Yeah
yeah, But you know you all are so team over there. You know
this is just one dude jacking off and Whole Foods. Right, we have
cities down here like the late Great San Francisco, or they just do it
in the street that right, brother, you know there's there right, yeah,
exactly. Man, the Whole Foods in you know, outline suburbia of
Atlanta, Well, they'll they'll give you two for one, they'll blow a
load to turn around, squat and dumpload all kind of almost the same movement.
Then people they got some skills and ship. Well you know again,
if you're in New York City, I mean, this is not that unusual,
except you get your reflexes up. You duck, you know what I'm
saying. But I mean it's just, uh, it's just crazy to me
that it's like Whole Foods in Georgia. I guess they all could need to
start offering free bio hazard suits. When you come in here, put on
this uh put on this uh tive x suit and it just slip it up
and then you can deposit it here when you leave, next to a hand
sanitizer. Forget them. Don't forget to get your mask. We have to
protect your mask. Get your mask. What did you think about Paul Pelosi's
attacker getting thirty years their nature boy in your home state? Yeah, well
that's what happens when you have a little love core with somebody who's very doing
the most powerful and corrupt people in the nation. Right, you think you're
getting out of that shit light? Oh hell, and you whack the old
fuck with a hammer on video in front of the cops. Yeah, you
know, old timer might be doing a little bit of a legislator tier booty
duty. Well it makes you wonder now that he's pulling thirty years on this,
he's gonna do a minimum fifteen before they let him out. Are we
gonna hear the real story? Now? No, you'll never hear the real
story. P Pete. No, he's gonna have that. You know that
somebody's going to be begging to interview this guy once he's in Yeah, yeah,
and then all of a sudden, you just missed their actually got shaped
one not poor god, no, no, what happened. We had him
on suitside watch and someone just cap it and shape them. None of the
cameras will work either, exactly. The guards just they fell asleep. Man,
they're on break, brought you break. So you think he might get
Epstein if he says anything, Let's just say it's happened more than once in
the world. Let's just say that. Oh yeah, No, guys,
guys magically hang themselves all the time, all the time, even when they
don't have stuff to hang themselves with. You know, they just they find
a way shot. Right. I can't see this guy having so much info
that it becomes, you know, one of on the list. No,
man, I think he's just gonna find a bunch of young students have a
lot of sex. You know, there's somebody for everybody, even in prison.
So who knows. I'm saying, you know, he's going to be
in an environment, well, he probably will be able to get what he
wants. Somebody's not going to go in their interview and find out, really
what the hell he was doing there that night? What is his connection to
Paul Pelosi. His connection is probably a lot deeper than one thinks, BP
a little deeper. So anybody got any other naked news besides the whole foods
or what. That's a pretty wild one, impossible to top, I think.
I think so that that has to has to go down to the annals,
not annals of naked news. And I mean that beat the first one
that started off years ago, beat people that dude tweaked up breaking in houses
and swimming naked across the river escaping the cops. Man. You know what,
we haven't gotten an update on that in a while. Bpete, have
you been keeping track? Yeah? I checked last week. The guys still
sitting in jail. Still hasn't come up on any of his court cases.
He's scheduled for again this month, but it'll probably be you know, postponed
and put back off. I'm I sent a letter here not long to or
an email to one of the reporters up there in the nashvill area, and
they said that they, you know, when they heard that he was actually
going to court, they would let me know. But Hill, that was
a year ago. So I mean, this guy's not only got to have
a record, for the most charges at one time. He's got to have
the damn record for not even going to court on him. Well, it's
been what three years. See, I've tried to tell you guys several times
that a lot of people end up sitting for a long time, you know,
and it's it's not necessarily something as crazy as this guy. I knew
a guy who was on a gun charge for like three years, and it
was all this time. All they needed to do was take the one statement
from somebody who was like, no, it's actually my gun that you know.
This guy is charged with attempted I think he's charged with an attempted murder
on law enforcement officer. Oh, oh, here is They want to push
this stuff in there and get the guy thrown in the slammer. But it's
been I'm trying to I'll have to go back and look at the original date.
But it's been several years now, let me look that up. Well,
all I know is that a lot of people have this idea that you
can get out real easy. And I've known people personally that have sat for
years on much less charges, you know, And it could be solved inside
of a day if somebody actually does their job, you know, one way
or another, whether they were guilty or not. And in some cases they
are, in some cases they're not, but it doesn't matter. It's like
you could just be Once you get caught up in there, you can sit
a long time, you know, unless you've got a really good lawyer.
And if you're working with the public defenders, eh, you know them guys
don't look so good. Oh crap, it looks like I lost my my
Skype somehow I lost my connection. I'm gonna have to reconnect in a moment,
guys and see what what in the hell just happened? Well, let
me try and join back in, because something happened auto grand theft. I
mean, he's just guy. He's got the whole myriad of charges up to
it, including trying to kill a law enforcement officer. Right, I'm surprised
he hasn't been pulled in yet. Yeah, especially if he's going after law
enforcements. They kind of like to make that a priority. I guess,
yeah, you would think maybe so. I don't know, you know,
but like I said, it just it seems not to matter what the charges
are or what the personal vendetta could be. Locally, it's just sometimes people
just sit and rot and rot and rot. And you know it's not because
there are multiple felons like this guy. But sometimes it's one thing. Like
I said, the one guy with the gun charge killed me because he got
in a car accident, and then the cops found the gun and it became
this whole thing. But if there was no accident to begin with, they
would have never found it. It was a simple possession problem. And yeah,
three years later the guy walks out no charge, but he spent those
three years anyway, you know. I mean, it's just because it turns
out somebody else owned the gun, who was in the car before and left
it there. And the guy was actually telling a story like I don't know
where the gun came from, and they were like, yeah, sure you
don't. And they had him in there three years, so I don't know.
Yeah, this was from twenty twenty one when all this started. So
and it's June. So next month we're looking at three years. A weird
thing. I seem to have lost my phone lines, so I'm gonna go
ahead and take a quick break here and come back. Oh crap, I
did not I was not ready for this let's see what we can do here.
I think I can. Yeah, I can probably bring this back around
and get us get us through with the newly hooked up phone line. So
that's what I'm gonna do, all right, stick around, we'll finish out
the Ocelly effect here on this Friday night, Open Mica, get ready for
all right? So, last twenty minutes or so of the show, and
I had a little I don't know what happened there to phone lines just disabled
themselves and they were gone. So here we are back again. Uh technology
technology, Yes, so Bpete is with me, Nature Boy is with me.
We've lost Jimmy James on the phone, but not intentionally. So if
you want to call back in or anybody else wants to call in, three
one nine five two seven five zero one six, that's the number to call.
I do not know what happened to my phone lines just now, but
for the next twenty minutes or so, we are live, and look at
this now, I got to restart this thing too nice. Anyways, we
are live and we will still be taking calls. Three one nine, five
two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one
six. Not sure what happened to? The phone's there, but everything just
stopped working for a few minutes. And now I've got nature Boy and be
Pete back with me. So my cost and uh skype caller nature Boy.
So here we are naked news. I don't know. Maybe we broke stuff
because the naked news was just too much. I don't think I'm gonna add
this to the YouTube. What do you guys think? I don't know.
But anyways, so back to it. You were you were talking about this,
uh, this guy, the original naked news guy, and you checked
up on him a week ago, and uh, anyway, so I don't
know if you're out. We're looking at uh, we're looking at three years
since he first, you know, decided to swim the French Broad River and
naked in the middle of the night's But looking at his charges, I think
he's I think recent total is over forty because after they busted him for that,
they connected him with a bunch of burglaries that had gone on Apparently he
had his clothes on on those, but basically assaulted people stealing cars, trying
to run over a law enforcement officer with one of them. So he's looking
at all the over forty charges most of If he's smart, he'll keep the
land his trial date to stay in county before he gets sent off to the
big House. Well maybe that's part of I don't know. I guess Aspho
might have a better cuisine in their jail than Central Prison. Yeah, especially
going in there with all those charges, he might like, where do you
want to get your blooney sandwich from? Would you rather get it local or
would you rather get it from the state. Well, I know in Perry
the sandwiches are not rotten when you get them. You get a decent sandwich
in Perry County. But I don't know about the other jails here in Georgia
or Funny, I've just thought about something. Out of all the jails that
I've been in, including the military brig, I've never had a meal in
jail. I've never been there long enough. Never had you, never had
a baloney sandwich. No, I've never gotten the blooney sandwich or the jungle
juice that you know most people get. Damn, I'm getting short changed on
this. See. I wasn't long enough to do any jungle juice or anything
like that, But I got my share of sand which is if I did
take a few hits off of a roach of some Mexican dirt weed while I
was there, I thought that was like really special hum well and and juv.
They served a lot of mac and cheese, guys, I can tell
you that it was. It didn't even happen for mac and cheese, especially
after the night. So I've been out drinking all damn night. I was
really hungry. I didn't even get the blooney sandwich. Damn, I feel
abused. I don't know how you end up behind bars without getting a blooney
sandwich at least once. I mean, that's like standard. Isn't that like
everywhere? It's like can spucked to night to get a decent wrap around there.
My god, at least give the man a bolooney sandwich. Well,
that's beautiful. I need. Next time I get locked up, I'll just
have to ask him what time is is breakfast? What time is breakfast?
Delay my release until nine am not six am. You want yourself to the
stale a little bit datas and some of that powdered eggs that they serve that
might have find breakfast cuisine. I also, I mean I've mess all food.
So I can eat just about anything, but I feel like I've been
cheated all these years. I know when you when you when you know in
Jersey, when they sent you to isolation, you got bread and I guess
it was butter. I'm not sure what the substance was, but my guess
is it was butter with the bread. So no bologna even, and no
mac and cheese in isolation. So yeah, and cheese. No mac and
cheese. That's all that messed up. Well, and they had just tons
of that, like that was what they fed everybody. Like you know,
there's these huge trays of mac and cheese like piled. I don't even know
how they got it piled that way, like you know those metal warmer trays.
Yeah, it's like in there, but like a mountain of mac and
cheese, like two three mountains of mac and cheese. That's what went on
in Uh. Well, mac and cheese now, so am I that's what
we got. And what can I tell you? I love mac and cheese.
Well, I like good mac and cheese, you know, a cheese
love stuff. I wonder if it affects people once they get out that they
never want to eat it again My ex father in law was over in South
Pacific for World War Two. It was a mortar platoon and I was sitting
there fixing the sandwich. One day. We have been working in the yard
at his place on the lake, and I sent in there fixing the sandwich,
fixing peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And I said, you know,
buzz, do you want me to make you a sandwich and peanut butter?
Hell no, I mean, what have you got against peanut butter? He
said? We got stuck in the damn fox holes. He said. We
stayed in one place for I know, three weeks, and all we had
left to eat at the end of it was damn peanut butter. He says.
I swore once I got back to the US, I would never eat
peanut butter again. They never did well. He probably had those like peanut
butter tubes out of the m R. E s right, Yeah, this
was your this is your k rations and stuff. I mean it was a
it was a tin can of peanut butter. Once you opened it up,
you had to remix it because the oil had separated out of it. So,
okay, see I don't have all those expence I I just I remember
seeing the the m r s with the with the peanut butter, like a
peanut butter tube and a jelly tube, and then there's then the crass k
When I was in the service of our m R's, we didn't get the
jelly tube. We just got that little package tube of what they called peanut
butter, and they had what they called a cracker. Yeah, and let's
just say it wasn't that tasty. But if you're in the field, then
you're young. Glad I got out. They started phasing n m rs right
when I got out, and I'm glad I got out because there's no way
in now like as much as we were in the field being a medic you
uh, you know, ambulance. We had a M one one three personnel
carrier. So well we went to the field, I'd go to my buddy
down in the you know, supply, talk to the sergeant there, get
me about three cases k racis throw on there, so we ate good.
It's amazing the the gourmet meals that you can make out of k rations,
but those MRIs I'd never made it. I dot, I don't see how
people ate those. I don't know, you know, I saw you know
again, I had some of these things. They were brought to me by
somebody else. But I mean there were some interesting bags of this and that
and there. Uh like there was this one thing that was like a rice
rice and meat dish. I don't know what that was. Uh maybe there
was no there wasn't meat. Actually there was like tomato sauce and rice and
I don't know what they called it or whatever, but it was Okay.
Those crackers that you're talking about, though, I remember those being stuffed into
a thing. Those things were hard. Boy, I don't know, they
were little thin boards. Yeah, like it really. Here was the worst
though, is the dehydrated hamburger packet, the Hamburger patty. Oh boy,
because no matter how much you put hot water in one of those things,
that still tastes like beef styrofoam. It was absolutely discussing the turkey that we
had things like, uh, you actually had a pound cake and a can.
You'd open it up. You'd take your jelly from your prior meal and
your crackers. You put the jelly on the pound cake, stick it on
the heating plate below where the heater vent was, and heat that damn thing
up and it was good. Yeah, we had a luxury. We had
tubs. We had tubs of hot water or those canisters of hot water,
and then we had our helmets. And that's how we heated up our stuff
in our field. Luckily I had to do it in basic training. Once
I got the permanent party, I'm like, you fucking kidding me? No,
dude, no, no, no. We went to the field.
That permanent party was a joke. Everyone brought their VCRs and I'm surprised there's
no barbecues out there. They wouldn't let's go that far. But you know,
well, there you have it. So anyway, how we get from
the Whole Foods to the k rations, I don't know, but here food
food is food. Oh yeah, and don't bend over for the potato chips.
Don't food clear? Make sure? Yeah, yeah, there we go
to the backglass area from one. People, if you get nothing out of
this when you go to the grocery store, always look over your shoulder before
you bend over to get the chips. Make sure there's nobody behind you.
At the Whole Foods, I mean, wow, what you need is one
of those sticks that cartman had in the pandemic special six feet in the flag
get away so that someone comes up the grocery store, have a collapsable and
like a baton. You can just snap that thing out there and just stay
away. If they come close to you and snail them say hey, I
didn't know those old foods. Week. Last week, you know, we
had a guy that come in our food line and he would he used pool
noodles to build him a little arc. He had a circle around him and
Spike's coming off of him with pool noodles holding it out there. It was
six feet, so you know, he was in the middle of his six
foot rate, his six foot circumfer. Well, I know, I guess
it'd be a diameter six foot diameter. And I told him, I said,
well, you got to get three feet from people. He said,
well you mean, I said, well, you're in the center, so
it's three feet to the end of the pool noodle. You got to put
another three feet on that. Oh, I guess I'll have to get some
more pool noodles. That's the trouble when they sell them at the dollar store,
right, I mean, you know people get Dollar General has him a
buck apiece. Man, they're on sale some is here. There you have
it. So with the last ten minutes or so, if anybody wants to
join us, we do have time, and I do have the phone lines
back up. So three one nine seven, five zero one six. If
not, I mean, do we do we have any other stories we want
to cover BPT anything else? Well, I'm just looking down my list of
stuff, I mean, other than the general mayhem that's going on around the
world. Yeah, I told you earlier before we went on air, I
was reading the story in Australia, much like here with our famous Duke energy.
Uh, they have a tendency to charge people that have solar panels.
Australia has gone that crap crazy over solar panels, so people are put them
on their homes. This lady is complaining because, and it was off of
Twitter, she put her copy of her bill that showed she generated more power
from her solar panels than she actually used, so the rest of it goes
on the grid. Her power bill was six hundred dollars because now the power
company is charging people for excess power going on the grid between the hours of
ten in the morning and three in the afternoon, which is peak time.
You would think that's when they'd want that power, but to manage it,
they're now charging people. So if you have solar panels, people are saying,
oh, well, get batteries and save that power and then put it
on at night. If you're hooked to the grid with your solar panels,
your battery system has to be hooked to the grid too, so there's no
point and batteries are going to cost you about ten thousand for the typical home
unit there. So you put batteries in, you have to go off the
grid to be able to use batteries for yourself. And why don't these people
it's crazy six hundred dollars electric bill and you generate more power than you're using.
Well, that's weird. That's how bad the government is letting them screw
you. I mean, I just don't understand it. Yeah, you'd think
they owe you money if you're putting power back into the grid, right,
I mean the way it be in this state when when people started putting solar
on their homes, they could sell their excess on the grid to duke energy
and they got paid for it or they were giving credits towards their bill,
and if they generated more power than they used. They were actually making money.
Well, Duke got tired of that, so they went out and started
putting in their own solar farms because they were mandated a certain percent had to
come from renewable sources. So they build their own solar farms, and now
they're charging you to put your excess power on the grid. But my advice
is, if you're going to go solar, you make sure you have enough
money to buy the battery system so that you can contain it yourself. Don't
go on the grid, and don't hook to the grid. Use your own
power for your sources, and not pay them a don It sounds to me
like you just cut it off at a certain time of day. Just cut
them out of the equation completely and figure out a way to just use what
you're getting off your panels. But no, let's see, once you on
most of these systems, when you hook into the grid, you don't have
control overthrowing the switch and say I'm going to use my stuff now and then
late at night switch over to the commercial side. You don't have that opportunity
when you get hooked to the grid. You're hooked to the grid twenty four
to seven. My advice is to cut off the grid and don't connect to
it and then never use their power, use your own. Just put in
a disconnect box on the line right before it gets into your panel. You
can't if you go on the grid, you're on the grid twenty four to
seven. You're throwing that excess power onto the system. And by law,
Duke, now you could, yeah, you could do it underhanded, but
somehow eventually they're going to see this. When you're switching on switching off,
they have a right to come in and inspect the equipment and see if it's
hooked up legally. So that's what a lot of people are doing. They're
saying the hell with the solar panels. They're just cutting them off, not
even using them, and paying a lower price for their power. But again,
we've got monopoly here. You've got to get every municipality, every co
op, everybody gets their power from Duke Energy. So monopoly worse than AT
and T. But we're not seeing the federal government break them up. Now
it's bad too. And Duke is not just in North Carolina, No,
they're in eleven states. Plus there's subsidiary companies which are probably in all fifty
states and twenty countries. I mean, they're worldwide now, but they hold
the monopoly on eleven states on power. That's crazy, absolutely crazy. Anyway,
we are getting toward the end of our time tonight though, because transitions
will begin in about six minutes. So I guess I'll give you two guys
the opportunity to close it out. Nature Boy, you're on with us,
so why don't you go first, and then I'll give Bepete the final word
and we'll close her out. All right, Well, it was cool hanging
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