WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.600 Hey, you. Yes, you the person who just hit play on that 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:08.000 device, the person that's listening to my voice right now. Do you feel 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:11.279 stuck in your life? Do you feel like you're living your life in a 4 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:15.039 way that's compromising all your dreams and wishes, the ones that you had at 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:19.359 one time? Do you know how much more capable you are, but somehow 6 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:23.039 you can't seem to tap into that potential? Than? Wow? Is this 7 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:27.480 the episode for you? Stay tuned, because this episode is all about tapping 8 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:32.719 into that potential. And my guest is someone you've got to meet. My 9 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:37.039 name is Will and I and unlike Boulder and Scully, to believe so we've 10 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:50.560 embarked in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptic Meiticians Classic. You are 11 00:00:50.640 --> 00:01:00.880 listening to the classic Skeptic positions. Welcome to our version of walk down Memory 12 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.280 Lane as we present classics from the Skeptic Physician Library. Warts and all. 13 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.079 Welcome to another episode of the Skeptic met Physicians. I'm well your host for 14 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.280 today. Unfortunately Karen won't be with us this time around. But just because 15 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.799 I'm on my own doesn't mean that I'm not super well accompanied, because that 16 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.560 could not be further from the truth. Joining me today is a practical mystic. 17 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.359 She's an intuitive life coach with a mission to help everyone achieve a life 18 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.680 that's lived to the fullest. So, if you feel like you've hit a 19 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.799 ceiling on your potential and want to break through it, Nicole Frolick is going 20 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.000 to help all of us remove the blocks that are getting in our way. 21 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.799 Welcome to the show, Nicole, Thank you well and so good to be 22 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.920 here with you guys. Finally. Yeah, we've been chatting back and forth 23 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.120 through social media. I tell people all the time that the reels that you 24 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.040 put up on there, I just told you before where we started recording. 25 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:06.840 You're talking directly to me. Everyone who listens to the show knows how much 26 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.800 I've wanted to reach my potential, how much I've wanted to have that spiritual 27 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.919 awakening and all that kind of stuff, But for some reason, I'm holding 28 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.080 myself back. Now. We've talked a lot about it on the show, 29 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:21.360 but I'm excited to finally have the expert on the show. It's going to 30 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:27.599 help me break through all of that nonsense. It's awesome. Breaking through ceilings 31 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.159 is something I love to do, no doubt about it, Nicole, so 32 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:35.319 that we can level set. How do you get into the spiritual or metaphysical 33 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.919 industry lack of a better word, Well, I mean I've always been pulled 34 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:45.919 into alternative health and also metaphysics. Meditation was something I started doing when I 35 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.159 was a teenager without me even realizing that's what I was doing, and so 36 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:54.759 it was just something that I naturally gravitated towards when I was in my late 37 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.680 twenties. I think, I don't know if you were on his podcast or 38 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.400 you had him on, but Michael phil Pot he's at a Toronto, Canada. 39 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.599 I met him. He was doing tarot readings, which he still is, 40 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.319 and this is in my late twenties, and I found him and that 41 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:13.120 just kind of opened me up more. I started doing Rekie. It's like, 42 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.560 I think the best way to put it is, I got into this 43 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:24.960 by walking the pathless path. And the pathless path seems very arbitrary to most, 44 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:30.599 and it should because there are no definitions, there are no linear directions. 45 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:38.240 It's literally being guided and as you walk it, you are in a 46 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:43.159 way creating your own unique path. But the only way you do that is 47 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.840 by not knowing where you're going. And ultimately the general feeling is I feel 48 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:53.759 lost. That's how you know you're on the pathless path. And so I 49 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.520 think by feeling very lost at time different times in my life is how I 50 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.840 got to where I am today. It was not because I had a ten 51 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.639 year plan or you know, all these goals set in line. In fact, 52 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.840 a lot of those things have shifted and changed and morphed along the way. 53 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:15.600 So I would say the pathless path is how I got into all of 54 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:17.959 this. I mean, that's a great term, pathless path. I don't 55 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:26.680 think I've ever heard it before. And it's your mouth is walking the pathless 56 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.720 path right now? Yeah, my mouth, my brain, my body, 57 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.800 everything about me on the pathless path. But it gives a specific image that 58 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.360 is perfect. So that's a great way to explain it. Now, you 59 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:40.839 mentioned something that I have to kind of go back to. You said you 60 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.879 didn't even realize that you were doing meditation when you were younger, when you 61 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.120 first run into it. What does that mean? How does that you know? 62 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.040 So when I was sixteen, I did an exchange program in Europe and 63 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:54.360 I lived in Switzerland for three months. And while I was traveling with my 64 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.720 exchange family, they took me to a bunch of different cathedrals. And I 65 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.879 was raised Catholic, but I I was never really into Catholicism. I had 66 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:06.800 kind of a rebellion against I guess, against religion, and I was more 67 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:13.439 interested in things that weren't so confining or using fear to manipulate you. And 68 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.800 that's not to say that the religion doesn't have beautiful lessons and attributes to it, 69 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:23.839 but for me, it just wasn't resonating. And so when I when 70 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:30.079 I was in Europe, I found myself in some of these cathedrals and they 71 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:38.360 were sometimes playing like Gregorian chants. And when I got back to Toronto, 72 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.680 I went to like a CD store and looking for something completely different, I 73 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.040 stumbled across Gregorian Chance and I was like, you know what, this is 74 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.800 what I want. And so I started listening to it while I was in 75 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:55.399 the bath, and I started to realize, I'm going somewhere. I'm going 76 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.879 somewhere, and I found myself at such a state of peace. I was 77 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.240 so calm, and I really liked how I was feeling, and my mind 78 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:10.360 would just go to different places and I literally felt like I was not in 79 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.160 my body at certain times and so I started to do that, not just 80 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.800 in the bath, but sometimes like before bed, and before I knew it, 81 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:24.480 I'm like, is this what meditation? So that's kind of like how 82 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:29.160 that all started was with Gregorian chance because I found them. So it's like 83 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.720 there's kind of like a mystical feeling with it that really I don't know. 84 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:40.000 I think I've had a past life for sure in Europe where I must have 85 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:46.560 been somehow remembering those Gregorian chants and it just spoke to my soul. Well, 86 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.639 you bring up a good point because meditation a lot of people think it's 87 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:54.600 you know, you sit with your legs crossed somewhere with your fingers in low 88 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:59.560 disposition and you try to still your mind completely. But meditation could really be 89 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.759 all kind different things. Like there's was it transcendental meditation where you come up 90 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.199 with a mantra and you just say the manto no and no again. There's 91 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.920 a Gregorian chance that you just mentioned. There is a mindfulness though those it's 92 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.360 apps the calm and the headspace, that kind of stuff that's meant specifically for 93 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:17.079 mindfulness and for clearing of the mind or focused. But really you could take 94 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:23.560 meditation in all different directions, like some people mowing the lawn is their meditation. 95 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:28.519 They just kind of zone out and they enjoyed that. That's that's really 96 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:32.519 important to note because a lot of people think that it's a certain way. 97 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.680 I know, Karen, I know you're listening to this, and I know 98 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:39.959 you're you're beating me up already because I hear you talking about the fact Karen 99 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.279 has a difficult time meditating them and keep trying to tell her to to just 100 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.600 focus on something, find her meditation, so hopefully we'll find it at some 101 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.399 point. I was going to say to Karen that you know, there are 102 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:55.000 no right or wrong ways to meditate. And if you can do breath work, 103 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.279 focusing just on the breath, because that produces the most amount of DMT, 104 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.800 right, a lung produce the most amount of DMT. And so whenever 105 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.800 you can focus on your breathing and just get into a sequence that feels rhythmic 106 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.839 for you, then that can help you. And that in itself is a 107 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:15.319 meditation. You may even have your eyes open, but it's still meditative. 108 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:20.160 And you know, I produce a ton of guided meditations. I produce one 109 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.439 every month, and I like to go outside the box. Of what people 110 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.600 think are meditations. And I like to use different music and really create a 111 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.799 lot of different visuals, and so I think it's okay. Like I've listened 112 00:08:31.799 --> 00:08:37.399 to really upbeat music that gets me into a very high vibe place through my 113 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.159 meditations. So I think it's important to or at least for even Karen anyone 114 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.240 else who's listening to this who's struggling with meditation, Like, you've just got 115 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.320 to find what works for you and don't feel like because you're not doing it 116 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.159 the way everyone else is, or what works for you isn't like everyone else 117 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.799 that it's wrong. It's just you know, all the power to you, 118 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.879 you can find something that's really unique, right, No, absolutely, And 119 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.480 it's interesting that you mentioned breathwork because that's the one thing that Karen said really 120 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.120 sent her out of her body, that she really resonated with that very deeply, 121 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.840 and it did. Stumble on your guided meditations, and I'm going to 122 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.720 buy them all because I can't wait. I do meditate every day, but 123 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.679 always looking for that different take on meditations. So these look like they're gonna 124 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.279 be a lot of fun. Look forward to this. So let's get back 125 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.799 to the topic at hand. Because we fell down a rabbit hole, as 126 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:28.399 we always do. But reaching potential, what typically have you found to be 127 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:33.120 the cause of someone not reaching their potential? Fear? Fear? Fear, 128 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:39.919 it's the most afraidive. I mean, there's so many different facets to fear, 129 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.000 but truly, I think it's fear of actually being more than what you 130 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:52.080 think you are. One of the things that I started to discover, probably 131 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.480 in my very early thirties, was how limiting my mind was and how much 132 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:03.120 that was dictating how I was living my life, the choices I was making, 133 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:11.360 and how that would either open or close doors for me. And a 134 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.519 lot of it had to do with a belief. It was a belief system 135 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.360 that was very limiting, and I didn't realize I was so limited, Like 136 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.320 I would say no to things just for the sake of saying no sometimes and 137 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:28.080 I didn't It was a very unconscious thing. I had to stop myself and 138 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.840 realize, like why am I saying no to this? Or why did I 139 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.879 just believe I can't do that? And I think the big thing for me 140 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.759 that really shifted was really understanding how powerful our mind is. And I know, 141 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:39.960 like we hear that a lot like the mind is one of the most 142 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:46.120 powerful tools that we have to use, but until you actually stop and observe 143 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.200 your own mind and the thoughts and beliefs that are dictating your whole reality. 144 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.360 Because our beliefs are what create the frequency that then produce the reality that we 145 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.879 perceive. So it really starts to go back to our belief system and one 146 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.639 to find out how to transform the beliefs from something that's very limiting into something 147 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.879 that's very open to all possibilities. And I think that's the big key is 148 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:15.360 that I had to learn how to not be so limiting in specific outcomes like 149 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:20.840 I was. I still am, But I I've always been like a type 150 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.440 a personality, and so I liked to, like, you know, have 151 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.039 control over a lot of things. And I've gotten a lot better at allowing 152 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.679 others to have control and to listen in to like be like, hey, 153 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.600 you know what that is actually good at let's do that. But before, 154 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.720 especially through like high school, even elementary school, high school and university in 155 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:43.320 my twenties, I was very rigid and if I had a goal in mind, 156 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.080 I believe that that was the best way, and that was the way 157 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.039 I needed to go and I just closed off all other possibilities that would have 158 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:56.360 bigger and better potentials, not even realizing that's what I was doing. And 159 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.720 so I feel like when it comes down to so, I feared that I 160 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.919 really wasn't even good enough to actually deserve all of those things, and so 161 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.639 fear the fear of not feeling worth, like not being worthy like maybe like 162 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.080 I think one of the fears that I was always afraid of, without even 163 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:22.960 realizing I was afraid of it was that people would see how unworthy I actually 164 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.039 am because I put on this you know all, I've got it all together. 165 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.480 I can do this. I was super athletic, I got great grades 166 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.840 through all school, I worked my butt off, so I always on the 167 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:39.679 outside, seemed to have everything together. But like I said, walking the 168 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.679 pathless path and feeling super lost is how I got to where I am. 169 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.840 But it was the complete opposite of what I needed. But my mind thought, 170 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.559 no, you just have to have it all figured out. Be rigid, 171 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.720 show everyone you got it figured out, and you're gonna be fine, 172 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.559 and no one will figure the the truth out. And even I wouldn't even 173 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:58.759 figure the truth out. But of course, life has different plans for us 174 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:05.080 and certain journeys start to take place like the typical imposter syndrome. Right, 175 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:13.200 mm hmmm. So then what was it that that launched your spiritual awakening or 176 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.159 was there a particular thing that actually happened. I've had a couple if I've 177 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:22.600 had varying points of my awakening happen, but there's been some really big moments. 178 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.080 One of them was when I took a one year sabbatical off work when 179 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.559 I was thirty one. I decided to quit my job. I was living 180 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.080 in the Cayman Islands, and I said, let me just quit my job 181 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:39.120 and go backpacking by myself through Costa Rica and Panama. And I did that 182 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:41.559 for a couple of months. Yeah, And I did it by starting off 183 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:45.919 with a ten day silent meditation retreat. And then I was like, you 184 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:50.720 know what, from there, I'm making no plans wherever I feel guided to 185 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:52.600 go. I'm just going to go with the flow, like that's my mission 186 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:58.440 because I have to always have everything planned out. And so this really opened 187 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.399 me up. So in that ten day silent menda, I had an experience 188 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.679 on day four where I was able to finally bypass all of the pain that 189 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.360 my body was in from trying to sit and meditate for a total of eleven 190 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.440 hours a day, not right after each other, but throughout the day. 191 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.200 There'd be a total of eleven hours of meditating, and my body was very 192 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.399 inflexible. I couldn't sit upright, I couldn't sit legs cross without my feet 193 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.360 falling asleep. My ankle's hurting, my back hurting, oh my got my 194 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.399 back, my hips, my knees, like everything was in pain. And 195 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.360 finally, on day four, somehow, I don't even know how it happened, 196 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:35.960 but I transcended all of that, and for the entire two hours it 197 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.399 felt like ten minutes I was out of my body. I was so at 198 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:41.840 peace with who I was. I didn't want to change anything about me, 199 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.960 and I felt myself just as energy. I didn't have a body anymore, 200 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:52.080 and so I remembered that feeling. When I got back into my body and 201 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.879 they ended it, it was very distinct to me that I had returned home 202 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.000 somewhere, and really it was home to who i' truly am and the connection 203 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:07.679 that we all ultimately have with our creator. And I started to cry on 204 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:15.519 like unstoppably, and I realized how much I had longed for it without even 205 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:20.200 knowing, I was longing for that connection and that reminder that, uh, 206 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.399 I am so much more than the limiting ideas and beliefs that I have of 207 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:30.200 myself. And so when I started to do that, everything started to shift 208 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:35.360 from that moment, and I hated yoga and it just seemed like every town 209 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.000 I went into, I would meet someone who wanted me to do yoga with 210 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:41.919 them, and I'm like, oh God. And so I did yoga with 211 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.879 someone in the Jungles that was right near the ocean. It was so beautiful 212 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.960 and I had the most incredible experience with it, so different from all the 213 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:54.000 other experiences I had with yoga. And when I had a different experience, 214 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.519 I had to ask myself, why was this so different from my other ones? 215 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.159 Like why did I I hate yoga before and now I'm in love with 216 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:06.519 it? Like the only thing that could have possibly changed other than like I 217 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:11.159 was in Costa Rica and not Toronto, was that something's changed within me. 218 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.399 And I realized that I was open to a new experience. And when I 219 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:19.000 was open to a new experience, I was allowed to have a new experience. 220 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:26.720 And so that really started the catalyst of me starting to stay open to 221 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:33.879 all things and allow the experience to show me what I needed to know, 222 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:38.600 see, feel, And that's kind of that was the beginning of a very 223 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.399 big part of my journey. It was probably the beginning of my self love 224 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.000 journey that of course is still ongoing to this day. I don't think that 225 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.639 journey ever ends. It just gets deeper and deeper. But that's kind of 226 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.639 where that's what really got me on this and that's what spurred my book that 227 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:59.240 I wrote called Inflexible Me, and it's all about that journey of how my 228 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.759 inflexibility of my body was a result of my mind being so inflexible, and 229 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:08.440 that when my mind shifted, my body shifted with me and allowed me to 230 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.240 completely have a different experience. So I think it's so important for us to 231 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.240 realize that if we don't stay open to other experiences, we can't have them. 232 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:22.640 And what really caught my attention is that not only the ten day meditation 233 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.519 retweet you did, but also the fact that you just picked up and left 234 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.640 and went on this backpack trip. Really nice that you're able to do that. 235 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.119 But for the average person, right I would love to do that. 236 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.359 I mean it truly as you're speaking, like my soul is crying out like 237 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.200 that is what I want, that is what I need. I need something 238 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.200 like that, But I can't. I've got a job, I've got a 239 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:51.200 family, I've got responsibilities. Sure, what can you recommend to someone if 240 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:55.200 they can't go on this incredible journey like you did. You've got to find 241 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.960 a way to step outside your comfort zone. You've got to find something that 242 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:04.319 you can commit to that pushes you on all levels, that is going to 243 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:11.759 make you uncomfortable. It's going to make you access parts of you you wouldn't 244 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.880 normally access because of the comforts that you're used to. Different surroundings, different 245 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:22.640 people, different environments, anything that's new to you that allows you that process 246 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:27.440 of discovery is really important, and I would I will say this, this 247 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:30.400 is a process that I use a lot. I talk about this with my 248 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:36.079 clients because you know, I do intuitive coaching and I'll use Tarot and oracle 249 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:41.799 sometimes, but ultimately I like to guide my clients into understanding how they can 250 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.480 really make the choice for themselves and understand what the decision is to be made. 251 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:52.559 And whenever you're really scared to do something, It's a really good sign 252 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:59.200 we look at we think of fear as a portal we need to run away 253 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:06.880 from, but fear is actually a portal of possibility. And I say in 254 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:15.039 my book that our fears are often lighthouses to our greatest potential. So if 255 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:19.200 I had never pushed myself to actually become a public speaker, I would never 256 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.720 have my podcast, I would never have my YouTube channel. I would never 257 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.079 be doing the work that I'm doing now that I feel so much joy for. 258 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:32.319 And guess what, I freaking love to talk on stage on podcasts. 259 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.839 Now. Had you told me that maybe ten years ago, I would have 260 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.319 said, you're crazy. It was I was deathly scared of, Like it 261 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.200 was one of my big, big top three fears of my life, but 262 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.680 behind it was a whole portal of potential and possibility waiting for me. And 263 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:55.799 so one you need to look at your fears differently. Now, there are 264 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:59.680 certain fears that are legitimately like they're there to help keep us safe. But 265 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.240 often and times we're so scared of our own potential, and we're scared of 266 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.400 failing, and we're scared of the judgment that we avoid it. And there's 267 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.839 so much waiting for you on the other side of that. Now, when 268 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.640 it comes to big life decisions and making choices that could ultimately shift the trajectory 269 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:21.759 of our life, which this particular trip absolutely shifted the trajectory of my life, 270 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.799 you have to ask yourself one simple question when you're looking at two different 271 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:37.480 choices. One is the choice of me making this So say it was let's 272 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.240 just say, for instance, that you actually could go on this trip and 273 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.400 you could take a like maybe it was a three month sabbatical or something like 274 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:45.400 that. Let's just say that you actually were able to do that that was 275 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:52.359 a possibility. You'd say, Okay, if I stay home and continue to 276 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.640 work my job and do all those things and not go on this trip, 277 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:04.720 is that choice reflecting my fears or my greatest hopes and desires? And then 278 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:10.000 ask yourself, if I choose to go on this three month sabbatical trip, 279 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.799 is that choice reflecting my fears or my greatest hopes and desires? And this 280 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:21.480 is the question I ask myself every time I'm at a very important fork in 281 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:26.559 the road where there's going to be a decision that could could really alter the 282 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:32.200 course of my life. And to me, it's one of the greatest ways 283 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.640 to tune into your own stituition because it speaks to your heart, and when 284 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.359 your heart is allowed to guide you, you will never be led astray. 285 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:45.839 So asking that question is one of my greatest tools that I use with clients 286 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:52.920 myself to this day. Because if you make a choice based on your fears, 287 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.279 you're only going to create a reality that reflects more of those fears back 288 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:02.319 to you. But if you make a choice that reflects your hopes and desires, 289 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.599 then the reality will reflect more of those hopes and desires back to you. 290 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.319 But that fear, boy, that fear is pretty phenomenal, right. 291 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.200 A lot of the self help books Ecker tole, I mean, all those 292 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.599 see to the soul. They all talk about doing what's right for you, 293 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:25.440 doing what's right, what's going to be for your greatest good, and perhaps 294 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.599 taking us a battle from three months sabbatical from work might be the greatest good. 295 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:37.279 But that fear is really hard to get around, because there's no guarantees 296 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:42.559 that taking three months away from your family, for example, or your or 297 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:47.440 your job is going to give you what you need, and in fact, 298 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.200 it might actually hurt your physical reality. Right. The ego that we that 299 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.319 we are, that we identify with, that we are not, but we 300 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:00.440 identify with makes it difficult for us to try if we just let go, 301 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:03.400 I hate to use a cliche, leg go and let God, But in 302 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:07.000 essence, that's what we're you're doing, right, You're letting the universe guide 303 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.680 you, the spirit guide you in the direction that's to your highest good or 304 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:14.640 what feels right to your spirit. So is there a way you just have 305 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.160 to suck it up and do it, or is there a way to actually 306 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:22.319 take a look at that fear and say it's going to be okay? Okay? 307 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:30.240 So a couple things here. One is usually we as humans will wait 308 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.359 until our back is completely up against the wall before we actually make a change 309 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.200 in our life. Well, that's Spiritual awakenings are all about that, right. 310 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:42.200 That usually takes like some traumatic event to wake people up. Sometimes me 311 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.119 and coluded because we've been avoiding the thing that's been speaking to us for so 312 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:53.279 long. Sure, yep. And so one of the things that I tend 313 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:59.400 to remind myself of is that if I want my life to be different, 314 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.319 if I'm not happy with a part of my life or a certain way that 315 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.359 I'm living. I have to ask myself, if I want it to be 316 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:12.200 different, then I have to be different. I can't keep doing things the 317 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:18.279 same way or I'm gonna keep getting the same results. And at some point 318 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.920 you kind of meet your breaking point where you're like, you know what, 319 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:29.359 I've been scared of this, But what scares me more is continuing to live 320 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.400 with this five ten years down the road and still be here when I could 321 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:38.000 have done something today. And I think the regret that you could have done 322 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:45.720 something earlier versus much later in life where you now have reduced how much time 323 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:51.640 you can actually spend living in a happier state. I think the state of 324 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:56.599 happiness is something we need to tune into in order for us to be able 325 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:02.680 to overcome some of the fears. Because for me, it was like, 326 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.000 I don't I don't want to live as a prisoner to my own fear. 327 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:15.359 I got to liberate myself from that. And fear will keep us comfortable, 328 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.799 Fear will keep everything just as it is, and a lot of us aren't 329 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:26.400 happy with the way a lot of things are in our life. So yeah, 330 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.400 you got to just suck it up and do it. But there are 331 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:33.839 certain things that you can do to take baby steps. You don't have to 332 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.720 take one big leap all the time. You can start to make slow changes 333 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.559 in your day to day that will shift the course of your life. So 334 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:48.200 compounding change will eventually lead to a very big change. And I think you 335 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.319 can start off by every day just saying, what is something I can do 336 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.319 differently today that challenges me, that pushes me a little bit outside my comfort 337 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.279 zone, you know, Just to shift the energy just a little bit, 338 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.319 and eventually you'll get to a point where you're ready for more. But then 339 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.640 there's always the excuse that I give to myself is that I'm an all or 340 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.680 nothing kind of guy. Like, if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna 341 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.680 do it. Otherwise, yeah, I know, I'm very much the same, 342 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.759 So I get it. I get it. I'm like an all or 343 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.559 nothing sometimes too, And I've learned to get away from that because it's actually 344 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:32.720 self sabotage. I've learned that that monster. It's a mechanism of self sabotage 345 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.599 to be all or nothing when you know, sometimes and because we live in 346 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.880 an instant gratification society right now, if we don't have it immediately, then 347 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:48.240 we won't we don't try for it. And there's if we can learn anything 348 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.680 from our own journey, is that it's never about the destination, and we 349 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.559 miss out on all of the beautiful golden nuggets that are laid along our path 350 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.920 waiting for us to pick up along the way by being on that journey. 351 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.920 And so look at everything in your life as a journey as opposed to a 352 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.200 destination, and that every day you have an opportunity to pick up another gold 353 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.759 nugget. And I think that one of the best ways we can do that 354 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.680 is by pushing ourselves outside of our comfort zone in any kind of way. 355 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:26.240 So for instance, you know, if you want to paint, you know, 356 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:27.960 maybe like you start painting and you're like, let me just explore my 357 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:30.440 creativity. I haven't done it. I've been wanting to do it, but 358 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.680 I just don't find the time for it. I don't make the time for 359 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.839 it. You know, Like you say, let me carve out thirty minutes 360 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.759 every day and I'm going to paint and like nothing is going to stop me. 361 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.160 And you prioritize it. And it's so important to allow you to give 362 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.160 that self, give that gift to yourself, and as you do that, 363 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:53.720 you just made yourself a priority. You made your desire a priority, and 364 00:27:55.960 --> 00:28:00.039 that speaks to your own self worth and self confidence because now now you're starting 365 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.880 to be like, wow, I am a priority, I am important. 366 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.279 What I want matters, And you start to propel that energy into other things 367 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.400 and it starts to compound and it accumulates and it picks up momentum. So 368 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.599 you may not see everything right away, but that's okay. It's part of 369 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:18.920 the jury. You're not meant to. This is a physical reality. It's 370 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.200 three D. Nothing happens right away down here. Everything's happening up there though, 371 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.359 in the five D, right in the etheric realm and all the energy 372 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.759 realms. So we have to always keep that in mind. We need to 373 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.440 take a quick break, but we'll be right back with more amazing conversation on 374 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:47.319 the skeptic metaphysicians. And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians. So these are 375 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:52.200 the types of advice that you give to your clients. And when I looked 376 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:57.680 into your coaching, you do mention that no two people are coached the same, 377 00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:04.839 so you really kind of tailor the program to the individual person. And 378 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.480 I got to tell you, Nicole, right now, you're tailing it to 379 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.119 me because you're talking right at me, so I am aware of it, 380 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.319 just so that we are clear. But I want to talk a little bit 381 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.640 about your podcast because that's how I found you for the first time. Podcast 382 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.079 is called the Enlightened Up Podcast, and I am obsessed with it. Like 383 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.559 the topics that you cover are right up my alley. I mean, you 384 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:32.160 talk about ascension, you talk about quantum physics, awakening the Kashak records, 385 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.960 you talk about the matrix. You talk about so many different things on your 386 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.720 show that every time I tune in, I know I'm going to grab a 387 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.400 those golden nuggets that you're talking about. So what prompted you to have these 388 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.839 conversations with people? This is like another beautiful example of the pathless path. 389 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:56.039 I literally was at one of my was at my best friend's place in Florida. 390 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.960 He had gone to work somewhere on the other side the state when he 391 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.519 was gone for like a day, and I woke up that morning and my 392 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.079 best friend at the time, Lisa, she called me crying and she's like 393 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.200 she's just like, I don't know what I'm doing with my life, you 394 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.440 know, like that whole spiritual breakdown kind of thing. And I was like, 395 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.079 why don't we start a podcast, like just so that you and I 396 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.839 can talk. We'll ask Michael he'll be our skeptic, because that's how we 397 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.759 started. We're like, let's have a skeptic, so very very similar to 398 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.680 what you're doing. And he, when he came into our conversations, which 399 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.640 can be really far out there, he would like, with love and his 400 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.680 heart, make fun of us to the point where we were able to laugh 401 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.359 at ourselves though like we we thought it was hilarious, and his take on 402 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.720 it was so refreshing because I'm so used to people in like the community just 403 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.240 you know, parroting back like everything that we talk about, and he had 404 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.680 a completely different perspective and had all these like funny little antidotes to add to 405 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.599 it. It's like, you know, our conversation are pretty freaking hilarious. 406 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.640 If someone were actually going to listen in on them, I don't know. 407 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.599 I think a few people might listen. And so it was like, let's 408 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.759 just have a podcast, if for nothing else, we just get to have 409 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.960 an hour with one another and laugh and talk about spirituality. And that's how 410 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.799 we started. It and now to this day like it's just now down to 411 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.880 me because of scheduling and all that with other people and wanting to move on 412 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.880 to different things with their life. But that's kind of how I got here. 413 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.480 So it didn't start off with a thing like yeah, I'm gonna have 414 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.839 this podcast and five years later like this is everything that I intended to be. 415 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.720 It was something that just grew on its own and I didn't even know 416 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.039 the direction it was going until I was already there. So it was just 417 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.039 one of those things where I'm like, let me just throw an idea out 418 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.920 there and maybe we'll do it right. Well, I was going to say, 419 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.960 because I don't remember Michael or Lisa on your show, and I've listened 420 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.279 to a bunch, so I was I was questioning, maybe I'm I'm interviewing 421 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.079 the wrong person. No, I'm just it's been two years solo now, 422 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.400 so yeah, I would explain it. Yeah. Then, is there a 423 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:07.480 particular guest that really stands out in your mind as something that either you didn't 424 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.720 know about and that really gave you a lot of wisdom or that just blew 425 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.079 your mind for one reason or another. The one that quickly comes to my 426 00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:24.079 mind is Peter Maxwell's Slattery and he does the Essetti Ranch in Australia, and 427 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:34.000 he is just an amazing soul. And his ability to go into all the 428 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.480 different like not all the different, but just endless dimensions, and how he's 429 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.519 able to verbalize it was just blowing my mind. I think I had him 430 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:47.720 on my podcast about a year and a half ago, and I was mind 431 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:53.119 blown. I was at the while, I'm not sure. You know, 432 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:57.400 when you're just getting so much information it's overwhelming that you know, there's no 433 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.319 way you can fully understand. You're gonna have to listen to the I mean, 434 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:00.720 I was doing this show. I'm like, I'm gonna have to listen 435 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.160 to this at least a couple more times. But also things were activating within 436 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.960 me that I was getting all these downloads while he was talking and were it 437 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:16.039 was just such a fun show to riff off of like each other's energy and 438 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.799 also have mine go to places that I didn't even know are possible. And 439 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.240 then all of a sudden, these downloads start coming in, and so I 440 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.960 remember Peter was a pretty awesome guest. Oh it sounds it. I'm going 441 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.119 to go back in the Archivecters se if I can find it because it sounds 442 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.079 interesting. Yeah, beyond this galaxy eat. He's in dimensions as you know 443 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:38.720 it with Peter Maxwell's slattery, So yeah, he's he's a wild one in 444 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:44.559 a good way. Like like just mind opening. The audience was live with 445 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.720 me at the time. We did it live, and they were minds were 446 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.079 being blown, like the whole chat was on fire, so it was it 447 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.720 was pretty awesome. It sounds awesome. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna check it 448 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.680 out now. You were also you mentioned you were getting messages. You're also 449 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.359 a channeler. You're intuitive, right, so you do you used to row? 450 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.000 You actually you channel particular beings or just information? And how does that 451 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.800 work for you? Mostly just information? I think I'm channeling my higher self. 452 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:14.079 Sometimes I do channel the Pladians. That energy signature is very easy for 453 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:20.559 me to distinguish. I also channel people's inner child, so because inner child 454 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.320 work has been something I've been doing since twenty sixteen, and my own inner 455 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.679 child taught me how to heal the inner child, which is now why I 456 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.400 do a lot of that work with my clients, and I have an online 457 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:37.920 course that teaches you how to heal your inner child through the chakra system and 458 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:45.559 the channeling. Actually, this is wild. I had in March of twenty 459 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:51.199 nineteen. I believe it was March of twenty nineteen. Maybe it was, 460 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.519 Yes, it was March of twenty nineteen. I had a Pladian heart activation. 461 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:05.519 And it happened when I expressed my love to someone that I didn't know 462 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.280 how they were going to receive it. And it's the first time I've ever 463 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.199 done that in my life, because I always wait till the other person tells 464 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.559 me that they love me, or I at least if I'm saying it first, 465 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.119 it's because I already know how they feel. But this one, like 466 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.360 I really didn't know. I was pretty sure they were going to run the 467 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.280 in the in the opposite direction. But I my love was just so I 468 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:29.400 needed to express it. And I realized this wasn't even about him hearing it 469 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.840 from me. This was about me expressing it to him. I needed, 470 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.239 I needed it, and it was important to me because it totally pushed me 471 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:43.559 past a lot of my own barriers. And even though he did he did 472 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.280 love me, but he was too scared to get himself into a relationship like 473 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:54.840 it was scared him too much. The Palladians came through and said they were 474 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:04.039 able to receive the love because it came through so oh raw in my expression 475 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.199 to him, like I let down all my guards and let him see all 476 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.639 of me that despite him not being able to fully receive it, they said 477 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.199 they were able to receive it and it allowed a connection now for me to 478 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.039 them that I was started just I just started channeling like I would be doing 479 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.039 my YouTube videos and doing like readings, and all of a sudden, I 480 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.559 just like oh, and it just started coming through, and so that was 481 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:34.920 really interesting. The heart now that I'm saying this, the heart opening is 482 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.920 so vital at least for me in being able to connect to the messages. 483 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.360 And as like we mentioned, I just came back from Mexico and did ayahuasca 484 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.000 for the first time, that's right, and my intention for that ceremony was 485 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.480 to open my heart further, and like, I really want to clear anything 486 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.960 that's around my heart that's ready to be cleared so that I can love deeper 487 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.880 and connect deeper to all people, well not just like someone romantically. And 488 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:09.480 I definitely got a heart clearing. I thought that journey, and so I 489 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.760 know that it's already starting to open up things for me intuitively, like my 490 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:20.280 dream my dreams, I get a lot of galactic interaction. I'm on ships, 491 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.199 I receive information things that I maybe can't always access when I'm in my 492 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.239 conscious state. So to anyone out there, intuition is so highly tied to 493 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:36.239 your heart being cleared and open up. So, yeah, I noticed you 494 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.960 got a meditation to open up your telepathy and intuition, and that's one of 495 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.320 the first ones I'm going to get because that sounds really interesting to me. 496 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.880 But I did want to touch a little bit on the on your ayoasca experience. 497 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.480 I know that there's not a lot that you can share because you're still 498 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.880 processing everything that you went through, but you did tell me before we started 499 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.000 recording that there are different types of ayuasca which I wasn't aware of, and 500 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.320 this was a very unique type that you did. Yeah, you know, 501 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.800 so, even like trying to get this, I thought I was going to 502 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.280 be super easy for me to do an ayahuasca journey down there in Mexico because 503 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.480 it just seems like everyone I talked to like, oh yeah, once you're 504 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.239 down there, it's just like there's there's tons to choose from. Right. 505 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.079 Well, for me, it was not the case like it just seemed like 506 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.639 everywhere I was asking like okay, like find trying to find a shaman someone. 507 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.199 For me, the ceremony was very important. I wanted a very clear 508 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:25.639 ceremony where the sacredness was upheld. I wanted to make sure that the shaman 509 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.239 was creating the brew with a lot of respect. And also I didn't want 510 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:37.199 to be paying out like astronomical amounts because there are places in Mexico that were 511 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.800 charging like five to seven hundred dollars for an ayahuasca journey, which is it's 512 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.480 usually around one hundred hundred and twenty five dollars so at most. And so 513 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:46.880 I was like, well, I'm just out of principle, I'm not paying 514 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.159 that because they're ready to gouge me money wise, and I don't even know 515 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.760 if I want to have that shaman like working with me. So what kind 516 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.760 of guidance can they ever give you? Yeah? Exactly, And so I 517 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.159 I ended up finding a sh'm in in the craziest way, and it happened 518 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:07.360 when I finally let go. You know, there's a you have to detox 519 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.000 before you do the ayahuasca, like, you can't eat red meat, you 520 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.920 can't drink alcohol, you can't have caffeine, you should stay away from there, 521 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.639 you should stay away from grains for at least two days prior in the 522 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:22.559 day of But I did it like almost two weeks prior. And now I'm 523 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.360 down in Mexico and I'm I've got a week vacation before I'm even gonna do 524 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.920 the ceremony. But now it's like I'm down there for four days. I'm 525 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.760 like, I'm getting a no everywhere, and what if I don't even get 526 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.519 to do this journey and I'm still detoxing while I'm on vacation. I'm like, 527 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.119 no, that's not happening, right, And I said, you know 528 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.119 what, if it's meant to be, it'll be. And I was like, 529 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:45.440 I'm going to get a pulled pork sandwich and I'm going to have a 530 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.639 margarita. That's so I go and I do that, and sure enough, 531 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.559 an hour later after I finished, my friend messages me, oh, I 532 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.679 found a shaman for you. No no, no, no. I'm like, 533 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.639 of course it happened. Yeah, so wait, then a couple more 534 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.320 days for me, No no, no, because it was still well and 535 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.760 still outside of the two days thing, so it wasn't a big deal. 536 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.440 So I you know, the shamans that I had were Colombian, they were 537 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.119 from Colombia. And the the shaman who made the Brew, he wasn't there, 538 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.800 he had left already. But the Brew was made under the full moon 539 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.559 of Libra in April, so there was a hole. So this which was 540 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:28.639 perfect because Libra ruled by the planet Venus, and I was wanting to open 541 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.920 my heart and Venus Libra Libra specifically about emotions and bringing things into balance and 542 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.440 harmonizing things. And so I was like, oh my gosh, this is 543 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.239 just there are too many synchronicities coming around this. And so my particular ayahuasca 544 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:49.519 ceremony date happened to be also on the day that Venus was transiting my natal 545 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.920 son, like literally transitting like right over top of it. So already the 546 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.400 Venus energy of the heart was right on top of the sun of like how 547 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.480 I kind of expressed myself in many ways or how the world sees me and 548 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.280 in my work and everything. And on top of that, the planet Uranus 549 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:12.239 was one degree off of Venus, which is all about sudden change and shocking 550 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.800 like things and just liberation revolution like you know. So I was like, 551 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.320 okay, well, already things are really lining up for this journey. But 552 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.719 on top of that, right an hour before we started the ceremony, the 553 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.559 moon moved into scorpio, which is the most intense sign for the moon to 554 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.960 be in, and it was opposing my sun, Venus and Urinus. So 555 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.559 it was creating this like push and pull energy of intensity and gonna deep dig 556 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.960 into the deepest parts of you, and we're gonna pull up the truth so 557 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.800 it can't be hidden anymore. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So 558 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.880 I energetically, I was like, this is all meant happen, but it 559 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.880 sounds frightening though at the same time it was. And so what I find 560 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.679 out too, And what is scorpio rule? It rules detoxing, right, 561 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:06.639 It's all about detoxifying and cleansing. And this particular ayahuasca was from a Colombian 562 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.559 vine. Now usually it's from the Peruvian vine. I didn't even know that 563 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:14.559 there was a Colombian vine, but there is, and there's a very distinct 564 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.920 difference between the two. The Peruvian vine is the one that will give you 565 00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.119 more visions the it does also cleanse and heal, but it's predominantly more about 566 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:31.119 visions. The Colombian one is predominantly about healing and detoxing. So, needless 567 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:37.079 to say, I had the most intensely detoxifying experience of my entire life. 568 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:43.719 I can imagine what that. Yeah, yeah, So I'm processing a lot 569 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.760 of it. What I asked for in my ceremony, I absolutely received, 570 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:53.119 probably more than I bargained for, but in a good way, And not 571 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:57.719 very much of it has been revealed to me yet, so I'm allowing some 572 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.360 stuff has been coming through in little drips and like almost like little puzzle pieces 573 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:05.119 being given to me at a time. My dreams are starting to reveal a 574 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:09.079 little bit. But something definitely cracked open in my heart and there's been a 575 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.960 major shift there. I'm just it's something I know. I can't push, 576 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.360 I can't force it. So it'll probably be oh, I don't even want 577 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.159 to say, it'll just be a couple more weeks. Who knows how long 578 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.719 it'll be until like actually understand more fully what's going on. And so it 579 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.000 was a very humbling experience. It is definitely something you don't go into lightly. 580 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.559 I will say At one point I question why I ever even paid money 581 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.719 to do it. Wow. Interesting, But in the end of it all, 582 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.840 I had pure gratitude for it, pure gratitude. And it's one of 583 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.960 those things where, like you know, you have your breakdowns, you go 584 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.519 through that spiritual awakening, there's one point where it's like rainbows and unicorns, 585 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:52.840 and then there's one point where you just feel like you're in the depths of 586 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:59.079 your own hell. And that's where I went with this ayahuasca journey on a 587 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.960 physical level, many ways, some mental where I felt like I was in 588 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.840 the depths of a hell that I had never even experienced before on a physical 589 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.960 level. But when I got out of it, I had gratitude because I 590 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.679 received what I needed to receive. So it's that whole idea of again, 591 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.559 we want our journey to be a certain way, but sometimes what we really 592 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.039 need is something else. Yeah. See, that's what makes me nervous about 593 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:30.840 the whole ayahuasca DMT bullfrog thing because I do tend to react very strongly to 594 00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:35.559 any kind of foreign substance in my body. I'm a one hit wonder. 595 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.039 People say, right went back in college days, that kind of thing. 596 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:44.880 It didn't take me very much. So my fear is that my experience would 597 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.039 be so intense. I mean, I read all the carl those Casteneda books. 598 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.519 I'm going through them all over again to remind myself. We've talked to 599 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.360 people on the show about psychedelics and things like that, and my fear is 600 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.199 that I'll lose myself in every way. And that's the reason why I haven't 601 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:07.280 done that. So why I look for natural ways of finding the same type 602 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.519 of spiritual weakening as some of these substances can. Okay, let's pause on 603 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.679 that for a second, because you said something really important there, is that 604 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:20.159 you're so afraid you're going to lose yourself in every possible way. Yes, 605 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.599 And what did I tell you about the pathless path? Oh? No, 606 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.199 I'm right there with you. I gave that felling you you you only find 607 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:30.239 yourself on the pathless path when you're completely lost. And that's where all of 608 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.599 the greatness that I've been able to achieve in my life has been from actually 609 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.280 being lost. Some of my favorite books have been Way of the Peaceful Warrior 610 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.320 and a Celestian Prophecy, and it's all exactly that. Being brought to something 611 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:51.800 like be called to somewhere, and I know that that is how I'm going 612 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.239 to benefit the most by doing that, by walking the pathless path. But 613 00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.639 you're right, fear, it's a it's a big thing, and I've not 614 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.320 yet found the way round it. But little by little I'm getting you know. 615 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.639 It was something I had to face in this journey, was surrender. 616 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.719 It's not my easiest It's not something that comes naturally to me. I've been 617 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:16.320 very programmed to be comfortable in my masculine energy and uncomfortable in my feminine energy, 618 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.320 which has shifted a lot over the years of my healing. But throwing 619 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.199 up puking, which happens a lot through ayahuasca ceremonies, I heard a bought 620 00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:30.119 that, yes, I can almost I can almost guarantee you it will happen 621 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.920 if you do the Colombian vine. There was a moment where I was so 622 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.320 scared because I have a fear of actually throwing up. I used to pray 623 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.079 to God when I was a kid, to that I would do anything that 624 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.480 he wanted if he would make the feeling of me having to throw up go 625 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.599 away. Like I just there was something about it I didn't want to do 626 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.480 and so I was a little nervous about that whole part of the journey, 627 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.840 and at one point I was like, I am here, I am embracing 628 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.639 it. I surrender, I let go, I surrender, And I just 629 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.920 kept saying it to myself over and over until the purging would finally just start 630 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.159 happening. That's what they say when you fight it, right God, I'm 631 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.360 not remember the exact word, but something about the fact that the more you 632 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.880 fight it, the more he grabs hold of you and makes you face it. 633 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.960 And when you finally let go and release and say I surrender, that's 634 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.960 when he decides to say, Okay, now we can move forward with a 635 00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.960 conversation. And that's when Mezcalito will like you or not like you, that 636 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.199 kind of thing. So, yes, that which you resist will persist. 637 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.000 That's it. That was it right there, Absolutely, Nicole. I could 638 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.159 talk to you all day, literally all day long. In fact, I 639 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:45.039 think we've had this conversation many times, not in this way, but in 640 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:50.519 many other ways. But your podcast is enlightened up podcast. I recommend it 641 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.400 to anyone who is interested in metaphysics, spirituality, spiritual awakening, all that 642 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.679 kind of stuff. It's a really great show, and I don't say that 643 00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.239 lightly, so look it up. I'm going to add direct links to the 644 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.000 podcast, to your website, to your social media's directly on our show notes, 645 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.960 So if you're listening to this on a mobile device, you can go 646 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.840 directly to the show notes and hit the link directly will take you straight to 647 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.840 Nicole. Nicole, is there anything that we haven't talked about that you want 648 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.320 to make sure we touch on before we call it a day. The only 649 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.440 thing I would say is we kind of touched on it. It was like 650 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.559 the inner child. It's become like a cornerstone of a lot of my journey 651 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:32.360 and how I help clients. And the reason is is because the inner child 652 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:39.320 is a portal in and of itself. It will take you when quantum leaps 653 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:45.440 forward in your own intuitive development, and it will also take you in quantum 654 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:50.679 leaps forward in your own healing, which will give you access to the enjoyment 655 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.000 of your life in ways you didn't even know were possible. And so connecting 656 00:48:54.039 --> 00:49:00.000 with the inner child can seem a little bit daunting. It can be skied 657 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.039 because there's a lot of things that we've repressed that we don't want to remember. 658 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.239 That we don't even know, we don't remember. And this is one 659 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.360 of the reasons why I created the online course to Heal your Inner Child, 660 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:17.880 was because it can feel very daunting when even just to kind of talk to 661 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.719 If someone were to book an inner child session with me, what I found 662 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.440 happened was we would do some great work, we would get through, we'd 663 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.960 break through some emotional blocks and barriers. But until I actually took someone on 664 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:36.840 a guided journey to connect with their inner child, that's when all the magic 665 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.880 happened in my sessions. So it was last summer that I started doing that 666 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.360 with my clients and I started to realize, WHOA, I can't just tell 667 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.719 people this is what you do. I have to actually take them through it, 668 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.960 and then they get it, then they understand, and then all of 669 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.719 a sudden, the doors are wide open. And so what I did was 670 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:04.920 was like, let me create a course that has in it my most powerful 671 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.920 meditation that I've ever created. It was channeled. The whole thing was pretty 672 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:14.599 much channeled, and it is a meditation that reconnects you to your own inner 673 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.480 child. I had a guy who just recently signed up and said he's never 674 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.800 experienced visions before he's you know, he's very new to his own journey, 675 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.519 he's very new to the spiritual journey, and that meditation hit him in ways 676 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.519 where he started to have visions that he's never had before. He got emotional 677 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:36.280 in ways that he didn't know he could access. And So if any of 678 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.960 your audience members are really wanting to take things to a whole different level, 679 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.559 and it doesn't mean like if you're new you can't access it. It's for 680 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.599 all levels. But I really I take you through all the basics that allow 681 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:52.559 you to access the depths of things that you think you're not even capable of 682 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:58.880 reaching. And that includes intuition, and that includes heart healing. So to 683 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.320 me, those are like the things that I think ultimately we're all looking for 684 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.679 what we don't realize the package that it actually comes in into me, the 685 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.039 best portal to all of that is our inner child. It's all kinds of 686 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.679 things that you do that we weren't even able to touch. But this is 687 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.679 important. So when someone does past life progressions that one of the first things 688 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:20.599 they ask you is do you meditate, Because if you don't meditate regularly, 689 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.960 it might be difficult to get to a certain level where you get the most 690 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.480 out of that therapy. Is this the same thing where you really need to 691 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:34.360 be adept at meditation or anyone can do it? No, no, anyone 692 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.119 can do it. And there's two meditations that are in that course. It's 693 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.239 about eight or nine modules. I would say it would take you a few 694 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.760 months to get through the course at fastest, just because you really want to 695 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:51.199 spend time with each section. But one is the reconnection to the inner child. 696 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:55.599 The other one is healing, healing your DNA from the point of conception 697 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.760 in your mother's womb, and so you basically you're not even just the inner 698 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.639 child. You're literally like the embryo. You're at the point of conception. 699 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.639 And this is something that was kind of shown to me through my inner child 700 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:12.320 and healing that I take you through, and it's all guided. I do 701 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.199 it in a way that anyone who's ever meditated before or not can can do 702 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.880 and enjoy. You don't have to be experienced in any way whatsoever. In 703 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:28.239 fact, I think anyone who's not experienced might be pleasantly surprised at what they 704 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.760 might actually be able to access through that. The other thing is is that 705 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:37.400 I put it I outline everything in a very basic way so that you don't 706 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.039 even have to understand a lot too many of the concepts. I break down 707 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.760 the chakras, I break down the energies, the emotional needs, the physical 708 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:49.039 needs, the shadow elements of each chakra, and why we the inner child? 709 00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.880 How it all starts, and you will literally be able to It's almost 710 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.400 like what will happen is Oh my god, everything's clicking together. It all 711 00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.679 makes freaking sense. Now why I am the way I am, and why 712 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.920 my relationships are the way they are, why I have chosen to do this, 713 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.800 and why I keep choosing to do this. It's it's so like it's 714 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.760 it's just laid out that way so that anyone of any level can do it. 715 00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.360 And you mentioned that it's an online library of courses. Is this something 716 00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.320 that you walk someone through or just kind of learn on your own as you 717 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.480 go, No, you just do it on your own pace. It's online. 718 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.639 So each module focuses on one section, like, so one is just 719 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.079 an introduction, like who is the inner child? Why do we even want 720 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:31.480 to why do we even want to reconnect with the inner child? And I 721 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.360 talk about some of the mistakes that everyone makes when when actually trying to heal 722 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.880 their inner child. And then I go into the different chakras. So and 723 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:44.159 then of course there's a very spiritual let's call it final exam, but it's 724 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:47.199 not really a final exam. It's very got shamanic elements to it that if 725 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.719 you actually do that and participate in it could probably change your life in a 726 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:58.440 very interesting way. But it's it's something that it's all videos and there's I 727 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.199 give you a ton of questions and exercise to work through, so it's all 728 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:05.280 that, and then I let people know if you get it to a scary 729 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.400 part, which is very normal where you're not sure you can do it on 730 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.679 your own. I am here for individual sessions and then I guide you through 731 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.920 it. And I've had clients reach out to me to They're like, you 732 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.559 know what I've been doing well, but now I'm really I'm finding myself scared. 733 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.119 Now I need some help, and so I do. And that's what 734 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.559 I'm here for. So but it's really good at giving you the basics and 735 00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:29.239 the foundation so that you have a really good foundation to build upon from there. 736 00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.320 Well, I am sold. You got me. I'm going to try 737 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.400 it. I'm going to do it. That sounds amazing, especially if it's 738 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.159 something that really anyone can benefit from, because the problem sometimes is that, 739 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.760 you know, again, the fear kind of prevents me from going too deep 740 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.239 into anything. So maybe this is the way to go about it. Nicole, 741 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:51.840 I can't thank you enough for coming on the show and sharing of your 742 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:58.639 messages your expertise with us, because I have valued every message that you've put 743 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.679 out there on social media and on your show, and I really appreciate you 744 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:06.199 taking the time and coming and sharing of yourself with us. Oh, thank 745 00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:07.280 you so much. Well, it's such a pleasure to be on your show. 746 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.800 You're wonderful and I'm so excited to be part of this with here. 747 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.159 Thank you, thank you, and a huge thank you to you. We 748 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:20.079 know that there are tons of options out there, and having you decide to 749 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.199 come along on our journey of discovery with us is an absolute honor for us. 750 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.760 We'd love for you to contribute by sending us a voicemail or an email 751 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.800 from our website, or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or any other 752 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.079 podcasting platform that supports them. Karen and I love hearing from those that are 753 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.119 moved to message us. It truly does fuel our passion. You are the 754 00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:44.320 reason we do this show, and knowing what you like and don't like help 755 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.119 us craft the very best show we can so that we can help raise the 756 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.519 vibration of a planet together. That's all for now. We will see you 757 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:57.280 on the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then, take care,