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Hello, everybody, Welcome, here
we go. It is that time again,

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Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live
from the studios of w m n

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h FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester,
New Hand I'm sure also on Comcast ninety

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hello to all of our online listeners across

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the nation and around the globe.
You can go to my website Matt Connerton

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show archives, etcetera, etcetera.
Today is Thursday, June twenty nine,

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two thousand and twenty three. We
have an exciting show for you coming

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up at four fifteen. Our friend
EASYG Well, we'll be joining us for

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the humidity is making it difficult for
me to speak. Apparently it's very humid

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today. It's been very humid but
summer. EASYG will be joining us for

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his entertainment report, and then coming
up in the second hour, New York

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State Republican Kevin Hammer will be skyping
in. Will be is it his third

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or fourth time on the show.
We've we've made him a sort of a

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semi regular. I think about once
a month we have him on. Really

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enjoy speaking with Kevin, so so
he'll be joining us later in the program

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and he'll be on vs Skype,
so the studio line will still be open,

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so if you want to enter the
discussion, you will be able to

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a couple of quick programming notes too. Yes, we have a busy show

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today and a busy show tomorrow.
Tomorrow we've got in the first hour,

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probably do it. Toward the end
of the hour, we'll have Eric Pilcher's

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classic film review that makes its return
tomorrow and this week the subject is Raiders

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of the Lost Dark, the original
Indiana Jones film starring Harrison Ford, So

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that will be the film review tomorrow, and then in the second hour we

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will be joined by Hue the Gecko. And last time Hue was on he

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really brought in some callers, so
he'll be with us tomorrow as well,

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so it'll be great. Actually,
he was on recently too with Aaron Bildo

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where because the first time Hue was
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but Hue was the featured guest if
you will, and Aaron was here accompanying

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him, and then they kind of
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was Hue here with Aaron or was
he with, Yeah, he was here

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with Aaron and then m yeah.
And I'm not sure who's going to be

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with Huey tomorrow. I think it's
going to be a surprise, but he

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is bringing someone who's going to come
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So we look forward to that next
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I haven't mentioned it on this program. I think Peter's talked about it on

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the Morning Show, but I haven't
mentioned it. But next week is our

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summer break. Don't worry, it
is only one week, so we will

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will be off next week. We
do have some brand new I've produced a

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batch of brand new best of editions
that we'll be airing a next week in

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this time slot. So these are
not I know the we have a lot

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of Best of us, but they
needed some freshening up. So we've got

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some brand new ones airing next week, and then we'll be back on July

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tenth. I believe it is so
looking forward to that. By the way,

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if you're watching online, you might
notice I've got my new hat.

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Jenny brought this from her latest trip
to Washington, DC. You know she

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got back yesterday. More People's action
a great organization that she's been working with

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UM advocating for Healthcare for All,
Medicare for All, and so forth.

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So it's a really nice hat and
it's got the flex fit, which I

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like, less likely to go flying
off my head in a brisk gust.

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It gets very windy down here on
Elm Street. I'll tell you when it's

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when it's windy in Manchester, New
Hampshire, it's windy est on Elm Street.

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You might think it's probably at the
top of a hill somewhere it would

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be windyest. No, no,
no, I'm telling you this wind tunnel

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we have downtown here. That is
where it is windyest, and that is

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where I lose hats. So hopefully
I don't lose. This is a really

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actually it really is a very good
quality hat, so so very nice.

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I was very appreciative to get this, by the way, And you know

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there's there's some big stories. You
know. There was the Supreme Court ruling

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today on affirmative action in terms of
college admissions. We're gonna do a deep

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dive on that soon. We probably
won't get to a this week. Well,

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we'll see, I'll, i'll,
I'll probably bring it up to Kevin

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Hammer when he joins us in the
second hour, because I am curious to

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get his thoughts. But at some
point soon and obviously, you know,

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we've got a busy today and tomorrow, and then next week we're we're on

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break, So probably the week of
the tenth, at some point that week

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we'll do a deep dive on it, because it is um it's a big

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subject. But the Supreme Court today
effectively ending affirmative action at colleges in terms

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of admissions. But there's a lot
to say about that and a lot to

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explore. It's a it's a complex
subject. And also one of Putin's generals

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is missing. And the general who
is missing seems to be the same general

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who is alleged to have known about
the coup or well, of course Progosian

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said it was never intended to be
a coup per se, but this general

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is alleged to have known something about
it ahead of time, as some other

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members of the the command in the
Russian military as well. And uh seems

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that anyone who might have known something
mm, they don't seem to be appearing

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in public. And it's got uh, there's a lot of speculation and by

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the way we sell then seen progosition
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supposedly he's in Belarus, that's what
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a hotel with no windows, of
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enemies shoved out of windows. But
no one's actually seen the guy. So

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is he actually really there? So
there's there's a lot to explore. So

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but right now, I believe our
friend EASYG is on the line. Hello

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Eric and figured it's twenty four fifties, So I've figured a better calling.

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Can you've got a guess Colin coming
in? Yeah? We have again.

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Kevin Hammer will be joining us in
the second hour. Yes, oh,

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I have a studio. He'll be
skyping in. He is in New York,

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Schenectady. Yeah, he's in Schenectady, New York. What kind of

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guy is he? What kind of
guy? He's a cool guy? Oh?

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What kind Oh? I thought,
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Uh. Yes, he's actually a
candidate for I believe the city council

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in Schenectady. But uh, we
met him through our friend Billy Painter from

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Outlaw Radio thought Kevin might be a
good guest on our show, and I

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enjoyed our initial discussion so much.
I said to Jenny, you know,

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because Jenny does the booking, I
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regular. We'll have him on once
a month or something, because, um,

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yeah, city council in Schenectady,
and he's, um he's one of

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those people who what I like about
him is, you know, he and

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I are ideologically different. Uh.
He's a Republican, fairly conservative in some

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ways, although I think moderate overall
probably you know, and I'm kind of

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center left, but we can,
uh, but we're But he's one of

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those people who we can have a
intelligent discussion without you know, there's no

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you know, nobody's trying to prove
the other way or anything like that another

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opinion besides yourself. Well, of
course, yeah. I mean that's That's

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a big part of why I do
the show is that I like I like

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talking to people. I like having
mature and sophisticated discussions with people with whom

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I disagree. And it's fine to
talk to people with whom I agree too,

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but I find it actually more intellectually
stimulating at times talking with people with

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whom I disagree. As long as
they're able to have that kind of conversation

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where it's not like this weird fun
where it's not like this weird partisan contest,

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but actually a mature, open,
uh discussion. That's why I like

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Eric Pilcher so much. I call
I call Eric Pilcher my favorite conservative because

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he's like that too, Like we
can have conversations and we can disagree on

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things, but it's but we keep
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without the other feels and try to
understand each other's positions instead of just sitting

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here yelling at each other like yeah
yeah, yeah yeah so uh so anyway,

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Kevin's another person like that with whom
I probably he disagree much more than

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I agree, but we're able to
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And I enjoy that very much,
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he'll be here with us in the
second hour today. Yes, yes,

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yes, yes, yes yes,
and uh of course you are going to

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be telling us today where a man
of McCarthy. Katie Dobbins and April Cushman

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are playing correct? Um not all
right, so just Katie and uh Katie

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and April. All right, Well, let me go ahead and hit your

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I'll go ahead and yes, we
don't gonna talk about it, but what

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about in Florida? But we'll we'll
talk about dates that are far away,

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right right, let me go ahead
and will well, yes, we'll go

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ahead and hit your music. Here
he was once that from aud You want

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to know about snock market crash is
COVID nineteen dry advise, celebrity gossip,

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Easy, geez, gotcha, entertainment
reports, stuffs. Wow, because Saint

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Nutton, but a jeep bank baby
back? Are you ready find out?

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Ready, go by the way easy
before you get into that. A name

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I haven't seen in our Facebook live
chat in a while, but it's wonderful

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to see her in there. Uh
Karen Kubit or Cubit, I'm never sure

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how to say it. She's Ben
Dyon's aunt and uh, she's um occasional

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caller, but I see her in
the Facebook live chat. Yes, yes,

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Isaac Banks also in the chat room, of course, along with Charles

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Richardson speaking of Florida, and uh, Crystal Funny, I can't hear the

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music anymore. It's weird, not
it is weird. Yes, and Crystal

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our great friend from the state of
Illinois. Also in the chat. Yeah,

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yes, all right, I always
try to mix it up here.

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The person I want to give a
shout to, Robert Diana, gave me

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some love this morning on the morning
shows. That's always nice, very nice.

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Rob Dion of course. Uh,
he does name that tune and he

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does his own entertainment report on the
morning show on Thursday mornings, and Eric

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started the entertainment reports. I thought
it was nice. Yeah, stick at

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my blue folder and they stick at
the ipadpad story. Oh yes, I

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remember that vividly. Yes. Anyways, I don't think I've dedicated to show

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to this telarifore O if he's in
a Facebook live room Alex Whitney. You

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know I used to that guy overseas, right, Alex Whitely from the UK.

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Yes, and he is a very
successful podcaster and media personality in his

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own right. Yes, I don't
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I haven't seen him in there yet. I have not seen him yet,

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but he may. Oh yeah,
and I also the okay to this

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guy here you once again he had
a real bloody man. I don't remember

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paying a blood John Moxley remember the
Combat Club former Shield member. Yes,

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you know they want to be edgy. They got DLVS TV fourteen, you

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know, squears and like you said, you're the same way. I don't

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like those bloody matches. Yeah.
I don't like to see like the pile

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drivers. You can break somebody's neck. Yeah, yeah, Well the reason

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in some places the pile driver is
banned is because, yeah, it causes

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uh neck and spinal compression that they
I think, Yeah, they don't do

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pile drivers. They haven't in w
w E. They haven't done pile drivers

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in over a decade. It's very
rare that you'll see one. Yeah,

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didn't take her do that too,
I don't actually, No, the Tombstone

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is a pile driver. Yeah,
Undertaker is one of the few guys they

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would let's still do it because he
never hurt anybody ever. He's so careful

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that they would let him do it. I know they try to be edgy

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and stuff, but I don't like
the blood and I don't like the pile

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drivers. And they see that blood
old night all day long, I mean

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all night long on dynamite. And
I know they want to be uh,

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you know, more g and stuff
and all that, but I don't like

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it, so no, I don't. I don't. I don't like blood

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no blood. I think they do
it like every week. Now. They

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have a show coming up in Boston
on TD Bank, first time there in

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Mox filey and getting a mox on
a combat call me gonna fight somebody else

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the blooding gouts. I said,
oh great, sure to watch that.

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No, I mean it was it
didn't occasionally is okay, but they see

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me do every week and which doesn't
make it. Uh, you know they

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do like hell in the cell every
week. You know it's not it gets

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old. You know, it gets
old every week every week. I mean

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obviously you don't have to watch it, obviously, So that's that's true.

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Goes ride, you do not have
to watch it, that's true. Yes,

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I want to make sure we get
everything in please finished the wrestling updated.

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Its big money in the bank and
this is my prediction for the money

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in the bank. Probably won't win, but I think the men might win.

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It's a la night. I think
they might put the money in the

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bank on him and I hope.
So it's a long shot. By the

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new wrestler Joey Starks, Oh yeah, they want to push the young girl.

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But I don't think that's gonna happen, but La Knight by doing I

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sure hope so. Jenny and I
are both big fans of La Night.

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I don't quite understand him too,
though I wasn't at the beginning by him

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now oh no, I yeah,
I've been a fan of his since back

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when he was Eli Drake in Impact
Wrestling. Well, lately some reason he

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seeks to lose a lot, but
he beat a Hall of Famer Raymond see

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Jor, So that's that's pretty good
on his side of the table. Yes,

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I don't know. I don't understand
Friday Night's back down. I don't

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quite understand. I think I might
have said this Eric pilcher or too.

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I don't quite understand what they're doing
with him though, Like, why don't

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they just turn him? Why not
make him a hero? You know?

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Why do they keep having him try
to play the villain La Knight? The

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fans are cheering for him, and
the announcers talking about what great reactions he

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gets, and yet he continues to
behave in a villainists man at times,

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and he should just be a good
guy. What happens if he was money

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in the bank. Yeah, I
hope, So I hope that's what they're

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gonna do. They got to hurry
up with him. He's forty years old.

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He's not like some twenty five year
old. Then they can take their

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time with He's forty, and I
understand. It's not like when we were

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kids, where in professional wrestling forty
was considered okay, time to think about

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retirement. Now it's like at forty, these guys are writing the primes of

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their careers. But still he's story
guy. That guy's staying. He was

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on the end of his career.
Of course he never say never in wrestling,

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but he was sixty four years old
last night, Yeah, staying event,

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and he flew up the topping a
lotter on today. You know that

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tables are made made a break.
He could break to four years old.

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It's like, oh my god,
well he'd Yeah, obviously he's taking care

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of himself to be able to do
that at sixty four to four years old.

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I know he don't wrestle that much, but he wrestled appropriated Doorty,

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wrestled at the really wrestle a lot, but he did back to back should

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Yeah, he's good. He's gonna
be retiring to him, but he's a

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good sha though, you know,
I know Tony Survival. It's that guys.

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Stay. Yeah, I think there's
a favorite wrestler, you know,

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like the old Um we're still in
there. They gotta used to be a

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fan of. We're still a fan
of stone Cold see Boston Um the j

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j r j R. They are. Yeah, like it's always you know,

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stone Cold, stone Cold the favorite
probably still is probably once your favorite,

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always favorite, right No, I
don't think that's true at all anyway.

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So yeah, around the corner and
you vacation next week to enjoy yourself.

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July third, they're gonna have the
fireworks. I don't know why they

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do it for July fourth, but
then we do that at Manchest the day

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before. It's gonna be at dusk, and if it donsis rain, which

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it has rained a lot, they
would do the show in July fifth,

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and it's always at dusk. Obviously
the free event. Drink some food,

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are be able to going to get
a paid for it. And I don't

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think they allow any alcohol or drugs
in their office. And so thirty nine

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Army Band will be playing before the
Yarns Park and they play always has an

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event at the Art Friday. They
play every Have you ever heard the thirty

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nine Army Man? Have I ever
heard them? Right? What's their big

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hit? Maybe I'll know it.
I don't know their their patriotic song?

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Oh sorry, Uh no, I
don't know if I think Oh they're a

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cover band, gotcha Jean never Sam. No, I'm sure, I'm sure.

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I'm sure it'll be I'm sure it'll
be great though. Oh, I've

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seen them many times. Good good, yeah, anyways, they have a

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lot of pirate this place, the
hop Knot On July fifty yeah three,

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Manchester, seven and nine pm.
Jasmine Man will be performing very good.

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Do you know who's performing there this
weekend? Uh? You can me in.

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I guess Ali Boudry will be there
Saturday night from her father or her

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husband. Uhum. Bill Seen promoted
that show every yeah winter Yeah, Bill

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Seeney, Yes, he does,
he does. He does trivia why not

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right on the He does trivia on
the morning show on Wednesday mornings. And

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yes, Sally Boudrey his his bride, will be performing at the Hopknot this

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Saturday night from seven to nine pm. And by the way, there's gonna

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be another show coming up through.
I don't remember the date, but so

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we'll mention it. Oh good,
Yeah, the budgery is all over the

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place. Huh, she's great,
Yes she is. She did you did

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you listen to day? She?
Did you? Did you get the check

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out open some hours eleven to nine
right here on Vally Street, the cream

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Land. You're looking for some good
food and drink and oh yeah, and

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ice cream. I'm a golden Rod. Other day, some friends come over,

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Katie Emory and Katie's roommates Sarah.
She tried to fool me, says,

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hey, you are going to hear
Queen to the Cupcakes went out of

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business. I said, so,
I said, I'll try to fool you

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not today. They almost got you, though, didn't they? Ha ha?

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Yeah, yeah, they almost got
you. How do you know it

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was open? I said, well, I know everything, almost got everything.

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I know something stuff? Yea.
Anyways, Queen City Cupcakes on Elm

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Street, you almost got gut the
mountain. It so tasty, especially when

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it's ninety degrees out. I always
say, when it's ninety degrees out,

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nothing quite like a delicious chocolate cupcake. That joke never gets old. I

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probably gets old by now, kid. Oh yeah, and uh a man

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of McCarthy obviously, Uh still talk
working on a new album. Obviously it

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is coming out with us new songs. And I don't know what what date

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those will be. Oh this girl, you might have heard the Hurricane downs.

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He's so busy. Yes, next
week. Oh yeah, when you

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come back from vacation the July fourteen, she's gonna come out with another song.

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Might have seen in my Facebook case, just because I can and you

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can get your you grow all platforms
and you can reserve it for that that

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special day. So is she also
has a new song when seasons changed on

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May twenty six, So she's really
getting out there on Spotify, Apple and

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all those, all those platforms.
And she said she's gonna come up with

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eighty more songs, coming up,
more songs. Wow, he is really

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busy. It is this great?
That is great? We were we talking

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about? You got some more shows? Now? Is July is coming up

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in July eighth at one thirty at
the Evil House Spneyard in Brookline. I

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always trying to write the others.
Now twenty five in the Road is a

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free event. It's called the Live
Music Summer Series. Huh. Now,

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who is this again in July fourth
were we talking about at the Cannonbury Farmers

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Market on Fourth Center Road? Who
is that's also a free event? Who

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is the person we're playing the cider
her Cider Hill Farman July twenty eight?

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Who is she? M forty five
farm av Who are you talking about?

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Maine? And by the way,
noon? And it's good to get the

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address in there because people, uh, you know, it's hard to look

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up addresses. Now, who are
you talking about again? Is it Katie

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Dobbins? Just making somebody? It's
just good to have the address. It's

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good to have the address. I
always say that. Anywhere I go.

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Sometimes I'll be thinking that. I'll
be thinking that coming here. It is

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Sometimes on my way to the to
the radio station and do my show,

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I'll be thinking, I'm sure glad
I know the address. Otherwise how would

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I get here? Yeah? I
thought that'd be fun. Yeah, Duly

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twenty six. He's doing a lot
of shows here the lofta Herman Woods.

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It's a songwriters around that. What
you do is say one I don't I

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don't go into the woods with it. I share that on my Facebook pace.

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Anybody wants to listen to wors on
ye yesterday and so On Facebook Facebook

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there are Andrea, Oh, Andrew
and Nad and is seventy two main three

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obviously unlofta hammeron words? Is that
really her name? Um? I think

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it's ten to fifteen dollars. I
just I counsel coming up this week,

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counsel people not to go into the
woods. Seconds. You're a four thirty

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p m. Laconia. Who is
he'll a parade Independence Day parade of four

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thirty and it's a free event.
We're talking about Katie Dobbins story. I

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guess Katie Dobbins. Is that what
you're talking about? Yeah, okay,

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just make sure because you mentioned this
Andrea Nad person who's gonna be performing in

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the woods. I guess now I
don't like the woods Carol wise with Katie

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Dummins. Yea, oh, and
now the problem with the woods is there's

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three things I don't like. Deer
ticks, mountain lions, and the Blair

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witch. This is inside the building. Oh good, So the building is

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out in the woods. Yeah,
so you're going to so you might pick

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up some deer ticks on your way
to the building. That's still very hazardous.

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Easyg I also forgot to tell you
if you go to the Lofted Herman

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Wins, you get five or thirty
complimentary wine tasting with your tickets. What's

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the addressed again? Okay, gotcha? Who doesn't like common reading wine?

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If you like that stuff? And
then July fourth, Independence Day at three

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o'clock and Meredith, Yeah, in
the garden in the garden seventy two Main

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Street. Once again, the Lofted
Herman was in tickets in the Garden of

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Eden. Baby, I'm sorry,
that's a that's a free event. Oh

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good. I don't like to pay
for things. Well, you still have

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to get, you know, a
drink or I would order. I would

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order a glass of water with three
ice cubes. I did that once and

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they threw me out. But we
don't need to go there. I don't

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get I don't get thrown out of
anywhere. We'll move on to a course.

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Sees are really busy too, And
I Facebook Messenger, I listened to

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a new song. Uh huh,
you just came out on all platforms doing

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twenty third more than this truck getting
a lot of guy hits are almost more

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than his trucks. I guess I'm
listening to the song. Now, I

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notice, uh, and I have
that pulled up here online and uh.

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In the cover art she is posing
with a Silverado pickup truck. Does she

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have some sort of endorsement deal with
them? I wonder. I feel like

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that's some product placement. I don't
know, because let me tell you something

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easy. Gene I want to go
on record is saying this, especially if

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my agent, the Ghoul Bob eating
and happens to be listening, I will

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I will only pose with a Silverado
truck if they pay me. Yeah,

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that was a Opie and Anthony reference. Sorry, Yes, go ahead,

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Yeah, we'll hear that song in
a few minutes. Yes, and you

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got more music coming up. And
you also got that song Smoke on all

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platforms, and so that's a good
song Smoke. Earlier in the year,

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he tells a more gigs to come
in the summer, in the fall.

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I hope you'll have the addresses for
those I don't right now, but he's

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a fall. You will storytelling tour, the Barn stories tour, but they're

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not un till the oh yeah,
the end the summer into the palls.

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I hope that Barn isn't address.
Hope that Barn's not out into the woods.

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That'll be troubling. There's another free
event. She's back at four pm.

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The Go to Manchester is right here
in I'm Street performing with Pattio on

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Mondays. And she's gonna be there
at July third, July seventeenth, right

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here in town. So somebody's keeping
a goat on Elm Street. She gonna

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be on Chronicle in August, but
she hasn't already already videotaped it all.

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Put it in the cans, they
say, in the can and she'll be

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uh probably announcing that at the end
of the month what things should be on

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there so everybody can watch it.
You know, yes, because a man

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of McCarthy and Tom were on that
on that particular program a couple of years

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ago. I still can't believe we
have a goat on Elm Street. That's

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amazing. It's you don't expect to
see wildlife downtown. Yo. And then

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June thirty is right around the corner
here, coming up tomorrow the Lively it's

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at the library on Friday night,
Unpe with Brad Marek Bick fifty eight Main

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Street and take us at twenty dollars
and son of seven thirty. Yeah,

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and oh yeah, you've got another
event coming up I April morning. Here

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inside today April you know gigs and
oh yeah here the lobster. Lobster lay

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in restaurant on twenty four Causeway Stream
with I don't like lobster right around like

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one, I was gone a few
minutes. I do not eat seafood.

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I do not eat seafood. Oh
tomorrow night, tomorrow night to night.

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Lobsters freak me out, and especially
those, uh, especially those lobsters in

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Gloucester, they're extra frightening. Are
you a lobster fan? No. When

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I was a kid, When I
was a kid, I remember my family

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they would get the lobsters and put
the lobsters in the pot in the boiling

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water, and you watch the lobster
die. And I thought, this is

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so true. And then and then
I would see I would have these terrible

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nightmares. I would imagine one of
the lobsters coming to me with you know,

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the lobster clause, coming to me
in my dream, going Matthew,

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why did you let them boil me? It was very frightening, and I

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would wake up and in a cold, very expensive well it's uh, no,

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one should eat those. I don't. I don't agree with eating lobsters.

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I think that they should be on
the endangered species list, and I'm

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going to lobby for that. Boy, well, here's another April courseman,

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the gig, it's got so many
choices in Nona Chris, Rhode Island.

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I don't have been saying that right
in any r A. No, No,

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I'm quite sure. I'm quite sure
you're not. It's full full band

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event and it's a free event.
It's a one seventy five Bonnet Point Road,

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Bonnet Point Road, right, and
then you've got a couple. I'm

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putting that in my GPS right now, coming up here. Yes, and

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we'll just announce the August once right
now. It's coming next taking information,

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it's six or three two nine,
three four seven zero zero. It's called

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a Jelly Rode backyard Baptism towards two
thy twenty three. It's oh yeah,

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seven people show parking is a four
thirty doors are six in the bank of

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pavilion. Everybody knows what that is. It's La King, Struggle, Jennings

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and new Birth and they added John
Adams Myers. How does easy roll stage?

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How does this say a big Gig
of ninety old turn Fight Road at

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Joel Nichols. The ticket informations buy
tickets, you go to four ticket limited

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rangemason dot com. In general mission
it's forty eight dollars by ship in Henley.

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It's fifty five at the day of
the show. So why do you

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get tickets? Early generous? You
get five hundred all of VIP at your

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own table, okay five missile an
your stuff in skybox and I'm guessing that

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you have, you know, waiters
and waitresses. This common. You probably

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have some wine, offer you a
jelly roll, some figures. I don't

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know, but they're putting pretty well
for uh those tickets. I heard I

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heard easyg and you can tell me
if this is true or not. I

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00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:48,000
heard a rumor that if you get
that five hundred dollars VIP package you actually

405
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,920
get two jelly rolls per person.
Is that true? Yeah? Maybe maybe

406
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,559
you think maybe two you meet it, it, maybe be able to meet

407
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,519
it. Courseman and Joel Nichols.
I'm assuming for that price, why not

408
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,680
meet the performers. If I'm going
to spend the let me let me just

409
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:08,160
tell you this. If I'm going
to spend five hundred dollars when I meet

410
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,480
them. I better not for that
kind of money, I better not be

411
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,960
expected to wipe the jelly roll crumbs
off of my hands. I'm gonna go,

412
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,480
I want to shake their hands with
jelly roll crumbs on my hands,

413
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,759
because for that kind of money,
I should not be expected to wipe my

414
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,559
hands off. Hey, maybe they
have some lobster or lobster rolls. Well

415
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,400
that's disgusting. Now I wouldn't have
pretty good food, I would go,

416
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,839
I don't, I know that's terrible. No lobsters. Yeah, doors are

417
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,960
a sick and shows a seven?
And why do they call it forgot?

418
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,680
I forgot to sati. Oh,
like they're doing Proud of the interruption?

419
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Interruption almost every night at six that's
on, Oh, ESPN, ESPN two.

420
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480
What are you taking a podcast?
There's an interruption. You always say,

421
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,039
well, I'll try to do better
than the next time. That's all

422
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:00,279
you can do in life. Right, Wait, I'm sorry. Are we

423
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,279
at the end of your report?
Is that why you're saying that? Yeah,

424
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,319
always say I'm partly interrupting. They
always say we'll try to do better

425
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,640
than the next time. And the
guy waved to American Canadian flying of all

426
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,079
things. I don't know why he's
in Canada. Probably, yeah, that'd

427
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,240
be a good bat I find out
weird. And then the other guy said,

428
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,519
you know, listen to listen to
the podcast on blah blah blah.

429
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,799
Right, yeah, they say time
for Sports Center, but the show is

430
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,680
I listened to it to a six
thirty song. Yeah. Yeah, ESPN

431
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,480
has got a million channels. I'm
so confused. All right, so are

432
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:36,759
we at the end of your report? That's it? All right, easy

433
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,200
Gee, thank you so much.
We will play in a hot new song

434
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,000
more than his truck, and we'll
see you in two weeks because you're on

435
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:48,039
vacation. Enjoy yourself. Thank you, Thank you, easy all right,

436
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,119
bye bye. Wow. You should
have known by now, Easy that was

437
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,400
all. That was very confusing.
Will Vegas is in the Facebook live chat,

438
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480
and by the way, congratulations again
to Will Vegas, who's about to

439
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,480
be married. He says, Jelly
Roll and Struggle Jennings are friends of mine.

440
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:11,359
Oh, jelly rolls an actual person. Jason Duford and William Harness.

441
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,799
Oh okay, So I didn't understand. I thought easyg was talking about the

442
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,039
food, and I didn't understand the
baptism part of it at all. That

443
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:25,200
was very confusing. Mike from Queen
City Cabinetry says, I miss Easy's random

444
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,400
rambling. What's there to miss?
You just heard some there, Mike.

445
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,240
By the way, Mike, of
course from Queen City Cabinetry, one of

446
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,720
our great sponsors here at WMH,
but also one of our co hosts on

447
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,920
Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul ec every
Friday night and Friday nights from eight to

448
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:44,720
eleven PM and tomorrow night. The
theme is Summertime Songs, which is of

449
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,680
course, obviously because it is summer, so I will be there. I

450
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,720
have the honor and privilege of being
one of Paul's co hosts on that show,

451
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,359
along with TJCF and of course Mike
from Queen City Cabinetry. All right,

452
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,680
let's get to it. We're gonna
hear that song that easyg asked for.

453
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,680
This hy Or may not be the
world radio premiere, but here it

454
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,200
is. This is more than his
Truck by the great April Cushman, who,

455
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,599
in all seriousness is very talented.
So we'll give this a listen.

456
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Then we'll come back and chat for
a few minutes before we hit the five

457
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,920
o'clock hour and bringing our guests today
Kevin Hammer. But here it is April

458
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,720
Cushman more than his truck. Wm
H rips the normos. You know,

459
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,920
I'm not the biggest country fan in
the world as far as country music,

460
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,880
but I doo like that. That's
really gets sounded really good in my headphones

461
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,240
or these set on my headphones,
but the station's headphones more than his truck.

462
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,799
By by April Cushman. That was
a good suggestion. He's eg yeah,

463
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,680
not bad. I mean she's she's
very talented anyway, She's got a

464
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,960
great voice. But I do like
the song. I really do. Welcome

465
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,799
everybody. It's Matt Connerton Unleashed.
We are live from the studios of WMH

466
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920
ninety five point three FFM and of
course Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester,

467
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,119
and hello to our online listeners across
the nation and around the globe.

468
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,839
You can go to my website Matt
Connerton dot com for all your live streaming

469
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,559
options, social media links, contact
infosh archives, etcetera, etcetera. On

470
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,799
this glorious Thursday, June twenty nine, twenty twenty three, coming up at

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00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:09,079
the top of the hour, we're
gonna have in just a few minutes.

472
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,920
Actually, our friend Kevin Hammer from
the great state of New York is going

473
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,119
to be joining us, so we
we talked to Kevin on a about about

474
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,319
every every three to four weeks.
I think it is so always an interesting

475
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,880
discussion. There's always much to discuss. If you'd like to get in with

476
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,119
a quick call, though, the
studio line is open six zo three two

477
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,039
five h six Z seven six zo
three two five six Z seven. You

478
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,799
can also text me at six one
seven nine one seven four four seven six.

479
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,799
I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at

480
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Matt Connerton dot com, and of
course you can interact endo Pine in the

481
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,599
Facebook live chat. But the best
thing to do so that we can hear

482
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,319
and enjoy your dulcitones is to give
us a call at six zo three two

483
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,640
five h six zo seven. By
the way, a hello two heartbeat Golden

484
00:33:55,599 --> 00:34:01,000
from the uh of course, Greensboro, North Carolina checking in says we will

485
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:07,880
be performing for the Center City Park
Karaoke at downtown Greensboro, North Carolina on

486
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:12,760
July twenty third, twenty twenty three. Hashtag Matt Connerton. Oh if only

487
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,360
you knew the exact address for our
friend EZG. Also, Chris Rose from

488
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,320
the Commonwealth of Massachusetts joins us in
the chat. I wanted to mention just

489
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,840
just briefly and newer listeners. I'll
try to be quick with this because newer

490
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,440
listeners aren't going to even probably really
much know what I'm talking about here,

491
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,360
but those who've been with us for
a while might know. A couple of

492
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,199
years ago, well, so this
gentleman named Tom Gulley I used to call

493
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:45,199
into the show occasionally, and I
met Tom through not even a show hosted

494
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,679
by the great Chris James. And
we are occasionally featured on that program on

495
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,800
YouTube or any as for short and
UH, and I subscribe to Chris's Patreon

496
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,000
to for the bonus content, which
is really good. Chris is amazing.

497
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,239
And that's how we met Tom gully
Um through UH any as and UM a

498
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440
couple of years ago. Now it
was about two years ago actually, Uh.

499
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:14,440
Tom got upset with me, uh
because after we'd we'd had a pretty

500
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:20,559
friendly relationship. Jesseps from Pod Awful, UH, they had they had a

501
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,599
feud going, if you will,
and Uh. Jesse had called into the

502
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:29,039
show a couple of times and Uh, Tom got angry with me over that.

503
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,159
Uh and uh and then uh,
I guess uh that was it as

504
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,519
far as our relationship, my relationship
with Tom, our friendship and then uh

505
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:45,360
and and he uh he was very
upset uh with uh with Jesseps and and

506
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,320
I think you kind of blamed some
of what happened on me. But uh,

507
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:53,199
last night, so this this was
a couple of years ago now,

508
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,159
so uh, last night Jenny sent
me, I wasn't home, Jenny sent

509
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,239
me a message about Tom Gully for
the first time in like two years,

510
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,679
was doing a live show on YouTube. So I was like, oh,

511
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,079
interesting, because I was never you
know, Tom was mad at me.

512
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:14,119
I was never mad at him.
I tune in and he's talking to Jesseps

513
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,159
on his on his show on YouTube. So I said, oh, okay,

514
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,679
well, well that's cool, and
I listened to a lot of it.

515
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Actually, it was surprised at how
friendly it was, and the two

516
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,639
of them seem to have really good
chemistry together on the show. So apparently

517
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,239
those wounds have healed and that's a
good thing. So I don't know if

518
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,440
Tom is still mad at me.
Tom, if you're listening, I hope

519
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,119
you're not still mad at me.
But uh but I will say this,

520
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,559
Tom, if you are listening,
I hope you won't judge me again in

521
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:52,440
the future if Jesseps happens to join
me on the show, I hope you

522
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,719
don't. I hope you don't get
upset with me for having him on my

523
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,840
show because you had him on your
show, and in fact, you had

524
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,840
him on your show for a out
eight hours. Because today and I didn't

525
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,039
even get a chance to tell Jenny
this today, I went back and I

526
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,199
checked the YouTube. They were on
together for eight hours. That's like a

527
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,199
Red Bar Mike David from Red Bar, he does like eight hour shows.

528
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,559
I could never do that. I
could never just do I mean, I

529
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:20,079
could do this show for longer than
two hours, Like if they ever offered

530
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,280
me a third hour or whatever,
I'd easy. I could easily do that.

531
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,920
But um but I can't imagine like
and I can't imagine sitting with like

532
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,639
talking to having a conversation with with
with a person like I can't imagine talking

533
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,960
to Jesse for eight hours. And
I actually like Jesse. I don't know

534
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,239
how Tom feels about him at this
point. They were pretty friendly last night,

535
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,119
but I didn't I couldn't stay up
for the whole thing. I was

536
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,599
falling asleep, not because it was
boring, but I just I got tired.

537
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:50,480
But uh so, you know,
if you know the history there,

538
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:57,840
it's it's an interesting little development.
And I don't know, I don't know.

539
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,760
I hope Tom isn't hope Tom is
still mad at me. Tom was

540
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,480
very Tom was very mad at me
at the time, and uh and and

541
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,960
someone else too. I actually Chris
James didn't didn't like it either, me

542
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:15,079
interacting with Jesse. But here's the
thing now, Now, Tom and Jesse

543
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,440
seemed to be on good terms,
so I don't think anyone should be judging

544
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:22,079
me about who I associate with.
Okay, just putting that out there,

545
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,800
just putting that out there. But
Tom, if you're listening, I hope,

546
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,920
uh, I hope you and I
can you know, because because the

547
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
thing is I missed, you know, Tom used to call in occasionally,

548
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,320
and uh and I do miss him. I missed the guy, so,

549
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:42,519
uh, the great Tom Gully from
the Tom Gully Show. But he's got

550
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:46,119
some new job now, some new
big job he was referring to vaguely,

551
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:51,840
so he's probably too busy to listen. Anyway, But uh, and I

552
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,199
have a feeling because tomorrow we have
few either get go on the show,

553
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,199
so I have a feeling we might
be hearing from Jesseps tomorrow or someone from

554
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,599
the pot off Full Cult, because
the last time hue the Gecko was on

555
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,320
with us, we heard quite a
bit from the pot Awful Cult and it

556
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,320
was pretty funny though it was entertaining, and Huey the Gecko, by the

557
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,480
way, has a wonderful sense of
humor and he was able to roll with

558
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,760
it and have fun with it.
So I'm really looking forward to that tomorrow.

559
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,360
So if you are just joining us, some quick programming notes coming up

560
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,440
in the second hour. Today we
have Kevin Hammer joining us. Tomorrow on

561
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,079
the show, we have Eric Pilter's
classic film review and this week the subject

562
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,320
is Raiders of the Lost Dark.
And then in the second hour we will

563
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,559
be joined live in studio by the
great Huey the Gecko. He's our musical

564
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:37,880
guest tomorrow, and then next week
we're off. Next week it's a brand

565
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,960
new slate of best of episodes that
I produced, and then and then we'll

566
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,519
be back on July tenth. And
when we come back, I think Jenny's

567
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,719
planning to come in with me that
day and she's going to talk about all

568
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,280
about her recent trip to Washington,
d C. She brought me back this

569
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,360
wonderful hat for the organization People's Action. But she's been she's been down there

570
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,079
a couple of times recently. We
were very relieved when she was able to

571
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:07,119
get back to when she was able
to get back fly back into Boston yesterday

572
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:13,079
morning, because there's been so many
problems with travel right now with the airlines,

573
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,079
and apparently part of the problem is
there's a lack of air traffic controllers

574
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,960
right now. There's a shortage there. But you know, the airline industry

575
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,360
always has some sort of issues,
so you know, we were happy that,

576
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,519
you know, some people got stuck
there, you know, for days

577
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,559
beyond what they were intending, what
they were expecting. But so we were

578
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,320
very glad that Jenny got back.
But so she'll be with us. Oh

579
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,840
my god, that is so funny. Heartbeat Golden in the chat room just

580
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,519
said, we have to use the
bathroom. Now, what's the only reason

581
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:51,719
that's funny? I mean, aside
from it being completely random, and is

582
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,719
I also have to do that.
But that's okay. Because we're coming up

583
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,559
to the five o'clock break. You
read my mind, heartbeat Golden from Greensboro,

584
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,840
North here. Hey, by the
way, just really quickly, this

585
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:09,400
just popped up. Mediaite reports that
Heraldo Rivera has left Fox News after twenty

586
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:15,280
three years. He was recently removed
from the television program The Five, and

587
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,679
I guess he just decided to quit
altogether. Heraldo's like eighty or eighty one

588
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,639
years old. He looks incredible.
He's still got that great, big giant

589
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,360
mustache on his face, and he
looks amazing. Of course, when you

590
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,280
have the kind of money that Heraldo
does, you can afford to do whatever

591
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,639
you have to do to continue to
be a very handsome gentleman. But he

592
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840
looks great, and you can tell
too he keeps and keeps himself in really

593
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,440
good shape. I'd like to I'd
like to look like that when I'm eighty.

594
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,880
In fact, if I do live
to be eighty years old, I

595
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,800
will probably grow a large mustache like
Coraldo does that or has. I should

596
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,239
say that might be the secret.
I wonder if it's even real. That

597
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,920
mustache might not even be real.
For all we know, he might have

598
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:01,280
that he might have had that permanently
a fit to his face, because it's

599
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,760
kind of his trademark. Has anyone
ever even seen Horldo Rivera without that big

600
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,519
mustache. I don't know, if
I don't know if that's even possible.

601
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,760
I don't know if I mean,
I almost imagine him having been born with

602
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,079
it. Heartbeat Golden says, we
say, who's quitting Haraldo Rivera. He's

603
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:25,719
quit, He's done. He hit
the bricks. All right. I'm sure

604
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,480
he'll land somewhere. He's one of
those people who's gonna He's gonna work till

605
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:35,119
he's dead. I only say that
because I've heard him say it. All

606
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Right, we are going to do
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Etc. Today is Thursday June twenty
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637
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Hey, how's it guy? Good? How are you doing? I'm doing

638
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648
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to Ronda Ostrowitz Fervero in the Facebook
live chat, all the way from the

649
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great state of California, who says
greetings all, and Miriam Banish joins us

650
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,000
as well. Good afternoon, Miriam
um Kelvin. How's the how's the campaign

651
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:22,559
are you? Are you actively campaigning
yet or where are you in the process.

652
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,559
You're you're running for city council in
Schenectady, Is that correct? Yes,

653
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:31,119
I'm running for city city council in
Schenectady. Um. We have been

654
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:38,440
out there recently. We were oppetitioning
to get another line um added onto the

655
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:44,599
ballot. We were successful in that, so now we're getting ready to kick

656
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:51,000
off more campaigning in regards to getting
out there, to have conversations, getting

657
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,199
out there at a more community events, getting out there knocking on doors.

658
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,760
It's good. I'm looking forward to
that actually, because, um, you

659
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,199
know, it's more about knocking on
doors just to have a conversation, not

660
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,440
can you please find this, which
I always I mean, I get we

661
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:09,480
gotta do it, um, but
I always feel I'm being a bit too

662
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:15,039
intrusive with that, you know,
yeah, just just in general, you

663
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,559
know, I mean, I enjoy
the conversations. I've had some great conversations

664
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,519
as I've gone door to door,
but that part of, you know,

665
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,280
can I get that signature, it
always always feels a bit strange. So

666
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,960
I'm glad to have that part behind
us. So now it's just you know,

667
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,679
putting the pedal, you know,
the pedal to medal and getting getting

668
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,960
out there and uh campaigning. We
the Democrats, they just had a primary

669
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:45,440
mayoral primary, and so we know
who the victor from that is. And

670
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,760
so now our candidate for mayor,
he knows who he'll be, you know,

671
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,360
facing off against in the general election. So now it's time to get

672
00:47:54,440 --> 00:48:00,079
down and focus. So I think
probably following July fourth is really going to

673
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:07,320
be our kickoff point in getting out
there more in the community. So what

674
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,559
do what do people talk to you
about when you when you get out and

675
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,760
you talk to people about what they're
what they're concerned with? What do you

676
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,679
um? What do you hear?
Uh? Is there is there something that's

677
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,800
um, I've probably asked you this
before, but then again, I'm sure

678
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,400
you know it might change over time. UM. Are there particular things that

679
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:31,800
people seem especially concerned about? There
are I mean, obviously there's the standard

680
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,199
things I think in every community people
are concerned about. We're talking about,

681
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,639
you know, noise ordinances, We're
talking about the condition of roads, Uh,

682
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,840
you know, not enough lighting in
certain areas. Those kind of things

683
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,519
tend to be very standard. And
then obviously crime, certain areas of any

684
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:53,159
community are you know, they're going
to have a little bit more crime than

685
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,480
others. Yea, so people express
concern over that. Uh. One thing

686
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:04,119
though, is cerfically in regards to
our local government that I've had a lot

687
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:08,000
of people expressed to me across political
lines when I've gone knocking on doors,

688
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:13,760
especially not just this time, but
I ran for a city council once before

689
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,800
was the fact that they felt that
the local government wasn't really accessible to them,

690
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:24,480
and they felt there wasn't necessarily a
great deal of accountability. So transparency,

691
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,840
accessibility and accountability, I've noticed tend
to be something that a lot of

692
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,400
voters are concerned about, and that's
actually become a focus for me. Is

693
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:43,239
that one thing I most certainly will
always be is accessible. I expect to

694
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:51,000
be held accountable. Yeah, and
I think, unfortunately, these are things

695
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:53,800
that are a concern I think for
people when you're talking about you know,

696
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:59,559
not just I mean certainly not just
there, but probably local governments anywhere,

697
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,920
and and of course state and federal
too is uh, you know, holding

698
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,480
people accountable, but also accessibility,
transparency, these are these are all things

699
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:16,920
that you know, Unfortunately, once
people have power, you know, I

700
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,360
mean, I hate to say I
almost hate to say it because it's such

701
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,920
an overused cliche, but it's it
holds up because it's true about absolute power

702
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:29,039
corrupts absolutely and people they get power
and they begin to close themselves off.

703
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,880
And in New Hampshire it's unusual.
I don't know if you know this,

704
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:37,599
Kevin about New Hampshire, but we
have it's either the depends on who you

705
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:44,199
ask. We have in our state
legislature either the third or fourth largest democratically

706
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:50,719
elected body of representatives in the world. We have an enormous state legislature.

707
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,239
I think it's more than four hundred
people. So we have an unusual amount

708
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:00,599
of accessibility here with our state legislators
because the so damn many of them.

709
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:05,480
Um. But and it's you know, and I think there's good things and

710
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:07,880
bad things with that. So but
I mean one of the good things is

711
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:15,639
they are they are really really accessible. Um. You know. It is

712
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:19,800
funny because I get I've been called
a pessimist for saying this, But I've

713
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,639
said that whenever I go whenever I
go to vote for, you know,

714
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,199
for a candidate, I always go
in voting keeping in the back of my

715
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,159
mind that I will I might eventually
be voting this person out. Yeah,

716
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,559
you know, because they've they've you
know, they've said that they're going to

717
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:44,199
do all these things. And even
if I feel that they are genuine in

718
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,840
the expressing of this, as you
said, power does does corrupt. So

719
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,239
and I've been called a little bit
of a pessimist when I when I say

720
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,280
that, I actually think I'm you
know a realist when I say that,

721
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,519
Yeah, no, I think that's
the right attitude to have, because again,

722
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,320
you do want to hold people accountable. I mean, part of part

723
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,280
of the what I think is the
issue with accountability too is though we live

724
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,079
in a culture and by the way, I'm sure this is true everywhere.

725
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:15,480
I don't think this is unique to
the United States, but in the United

726
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:22,679
States, I think partisanship plays a
huge role in that where you have you

727
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,800
know, Republicans generally only want to
hold Democrats accountable, and Democrats generally only

728
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,119
want to hold Republicans accountable. Obviously, there's exceptions to that I'm not saying

729
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:36,119
all the time, but generally speaking, that's how our political system works in

730
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:39,320
the United States, and what that
causes, in my view, is it

731
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:45,760
causes just kind of a lack of
accountability generally. And an analogy that I

732
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,400
like to use as imagine if you
worked for a company and you are in

733
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:57,199
middle management, and maybe you're doing
things that to people beneath you in lower

734
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,840
management, who you know, things
maybe you should be doing, whether it's

735
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:06,280
sexual harassment or just unsafe work conditions, putting people in danger, whatever it

736
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,559
is. But imagine if you're that
person in middle management. Imagine what you

737
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:14,039
could get away with if you knew. If you knew that the people in

738
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,559
upper management, only about fifty percent
of the people running things in upper management

739
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,280
we're going to hold you accountable for
anything. But the other fifty percent of

740
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:28,239
people in upper management would run interference
for you. They will make excuses for

741
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,320
you. They if if someone wants
to hold you accountable, they will say,

742
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,119
well what about this other person who
did something bad too. You know,

743
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:38,800
So you know, you could get
away with a lot if you knew

744
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,159
that only fifty percent of the people
in upper management we're going to hold you

745
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,800
accountable. The other fifty percent would
look the other way on anything. And

746
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:51,400
I feel that that's how our politics
in America works. And again there are

747
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,280
exceptions, but yeah, I actually
think I actually think it's a bit more

748
00:53:54,559 --> 00:54:00,239
close to home than that. I
know you're referencing business stuff. I think

749
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,280
about this as I think one of
the reasons we do this when we're in

750
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,920
parties is because it hits close to
home, because in many ways we do

751
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:13,880
this in families. Let you know, let's be honest, we have family

752
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,440
members that we will turn a blind
a blind eye or you know, not

753
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,159
not focus on as much certain actions
because their family a stranger did. If

754
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:28,760
a stranger did the same thing right, we would react a very different way,

755
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,559
especially if it was like a feuding
family or something right. So I

756
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,679
actually look at it more as as
as so ant that we do it in

757
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,280
our families, and is like a
member of the family might do something and

758
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,400
the family will try to keep it
hush hush and play it down as much

759
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,800
as possible. But then there's the
situations when a certain member does something that

760
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,480
you can't bury and then the family's
like, okay, push it. You

761
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:53,360
know, they're like up, we're
standing, you know, we're denouncing that.

762
00:54:53,800 --> 00:55:00,840
So I actually saying that it's it's
in some ways so ingrains so much

763
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,079
into us, starting at even our
family, that it's no surprise to me

764
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,760
that we see it reflected in politics. I think that's a good insight.

765
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,760
Yeah, I think I think you
make a I think you make a great

766
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:17,039
point there. Um Yeah, and
if and if people are, if if

767
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:24,519
people are sort of working toward goals
and ideas uh and and uh and an

768
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:30,599
agenda similar to your own, then
then you're more likely to um have that

769
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,400
that sense of wanting to protect them
and stick up for them and so forth.

770
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,920
And I do think that probably starts
with family and then uh, and

771
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,880
then it does enter our politics.
Um. The bad part about it though,

772
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,559
being you know, I think it's
I think it makes sense. You

773
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:46,280
know, of course, you want
to stick up for your family, and

774
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,000
you want to love your family even
if they do, you know, even

775
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,039
if even if they do things that
you know are wrong. But it's a

776
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,199
it's a shame that our politics works
that way. I mean, I always

777
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,679
say, you know, true accountability
is wanting to hold everyone accountable for uh,

778
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,679
for for what they do. And
I wish, I wish we saw

779
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,079
more of that, but there's so
much there's so much tribalism and um,

780
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,039
and I don't know, I don't
know what to do about it. Uh.

781
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,280
People have ideas, but honestly,
at the end of the day,

782
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,800
it's it really comes down to human
nature. But I think you're right though,

783
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,679
I think that's an excellent insight that
it does start with family. UM,

784
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,079
we just have to get people to
not uh uh not bring that into

785
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,960
how they think about apolitics. I
know, I know that's about how do

786
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:34,199
you get It's kind of like right, someone has a bad relationship and brings

787
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,400
that baggage into a new relationship.
Yeah, do you get someone to not

788
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,079
do that? Because it's just it's
human nature, right, It's true,

789
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,400
once you're stung, once you've been
burned, you have a certain response that

790
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,360
you develop or whether it be you
know, a defense mechanism, a way

791
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,000
to try to prevent it from happening
in the future, a way of to

792
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,159
you know, protect yourself of course. So it's like, how how do

793
00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:00,840
you overcome that? And I think
for me it really has been about having

794
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,440
these types of conversations what I'm doing
right now with you. And while I

795
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:13,119
have very strong values and I'm I'm
strong in them, I stand firm in

796
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,119
them. I never want to cut
myself off to having these conversations because,

797
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:21,719
as I've said before, when I've
been on is that really I do feel

798
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,599
at the end of the day,
Uh, echo chambers are really the biggest

799
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:29,679
danger to our country. We're getting
caught up in them way too much.

800
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,239
Oh, absolutely absolutely one. Um. Well, by the way, Uh,

801
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,000
this is a bit of a side
street. But I saw in the

802
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:45,800
h in the news today. Um
again, these air quality control or air

803
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:49,440
quality alerts. I should say,
um, are you feeling any of that

804
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:53,159
where you are? I know New
York City has had a lot of problems

805
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:58,320
with you know, these these wildfires
in Canada and then they're all wafs down

806
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,239
into the U States. But do
you notice it where you are? Yes,

807
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,800
we did, But when it was
hitting New York City. Here in

808
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,360
Upper New York, we actually did
feel the effects of it. It wasn't

809
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:14,320
obviously as strong. There was a
slight. If you looked up, you

810
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,559
would see this like this orange haze
in you know, to a degree.

811
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:25,440
I know that I have asthma my
breathing. I could feel it in my

812
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:30,519
breathing. I was at my job. I used my inhalo a little bit

813
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,639
more. I don't. I do
not use my inhaler that often. Fortunately,

814
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,960
I do not have asthma to where
I've had to where I use my

815
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:42,559
inhalo regularly. But I will admit
for those few days I use my inhalo

816
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,480
a bit a bit more often because
I am at a job where you know,

817
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,480
the ventilation isn't the best. And
then of course on my way home

818
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:55,519
from work, I use public transportation, and yeah, I remember how eerie,

819
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,440
how eerie was, especially that first
day, that initial day, how

820
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:05,119
uli it was to look outside and
just see this slight glow. Yeah,

821
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:08,000
yeah, we have a Now there's
a new round of it. It might

822
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:10,679
not be hitting in your area yet, but I know we have some sort

823
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:15,400
of an air quality alert here and
Washington, DC is having an issue again,

824
00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:19,280
and it seems like this. I
wonder if this is going to be

825
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,960
more common over the summer. Have
you this might be an odd question,

826
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:27,840
but have you Have you had asthma
since you were a kid or did you

827
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,440
develop that as an adult. I
was about twelve or thirteen when I was

828
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:37,880
diagnosed with asthma. The only reason
I ask is, I know it sounds

829
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,639
strange, but I ask people about
it if it comes up, because so

830
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,920
I never had asthma growing up.
But from what I understand, most people

831
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,079
who have asthma, they are diagnosed
when they're children. I believe I had

832
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:58,559
COVID before we knew about COVID really, and that it permanently damaged my lungs,

833
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:01,000
and now I have asthma because I
ended up I never had asthma,

834
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,760
and then on Christmas night of twenty
nineteen, I ended up in the emergency

835
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:13,480
room with breathing and issues. And
they were a little bit perplexed because I

836
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,519
remember the doctor saying to me,
Okay, no one's ever told you before

837
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:21,840
that you have asthma, And I
said, uh no, this is new

838
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,960
to me. And he's like,
well you do, because you're clearly having

839
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,440
an asthma attack. And I'm like, I don't know, and so and

840
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,239
ever since then, I have to
use a maintenance you know, I don't.

841
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,119
I don't have to use my rescue
and hailer very often either, once

842
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,480
in a great while. With me, it's more of my allergies are bothering

843
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:44,199
me. But I use a maintenance
and hailer once a day, you know.

844
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,159
And if I if I forget,
if I forget to use my maintenance

845
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:51,119
and hailer, that that's the one
time I will sometimes have to go for

846
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:53,159
the rescue and hailer because I'll start
to feel it in my lungs. But

847
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:59,320
I believe I had COVID because it's
really pretty weird, Like I have yet

848
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,639
to talk to anybody who has asthma, who you know, if I ask

849
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:06,119
him, by the way, when
when were you diagnosed? Everyone tells me

850
01:01:06,239 --> 01:01:10,039
the same thing that when they were
kids. I really only know one other

851
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:15,039
exception to that. I actually know
a guy who he was diagnosed with asthma

852
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:20,599
as an adult, but then he
told me what he what he blames it

853
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:25,360
on is, uh, they had
neighbors who would burn like different like burn

854
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,159
tires even. Oh, and he
happened to have the bedroom window that was

855
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:35,239
facing that and that was an ongoing
problem. And then he one day just

856
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,039
had these breathing issues, went in
and they said, oh, you have

857
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:42,599
asthma, and he says, no, I've never you know, I was

858
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,719
never diagnosed with asthma. They go, well, you have it now pretty

859
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,239
much. And so now he has
a maintenance in hailer as well. He

860
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,039
doesn't have to use it often.
But I think he is probably the only

861
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:55,679
other example that I can think of, because you're right, most people I've

862
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:00,920
ever interacted with who have asthma have
had it since they were children. I

863
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,360
think at the latest when they were
diagnosed was around the age that I was

864
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,840
twelve thirteen. Yeah, yeah,
but yeah, that makes sense though your

865
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,920
friend with the the you know,
if they're burning tires and he probably inhaled

866
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,039
something. Yeah, I probably damaged
his lungs. Yeah, So that's my

867
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:20,039
theory I think I had because we
knew, Um, I think we kind

868
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,840
of knew about COVID, but we
didn't know it was in the United States

869
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,039
yet at that point the night that
I ended up in the er, and

870
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,239
um, so that's yeah, that's
my theory. And I remember saying it

871
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,239
to my my regular doctor when I
saw him, and he said, well,

872
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,599
we'll never know, but he said
it's yeah, it's very possible.

873
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,480
It seemed to make sense to him
that that that might have been what happened.

874
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,440
But UM, I also I wanted
to ask you, Kevin, and

875
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:47,079
I I'm sure I asked you before, but I don't remember, um,

876
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,719
if you really had an answer yet. But is there is there anybody you

877
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:58,639
like? Uh in terms of the
presidential candidates on the Republican side. And

878
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:04,559
I'm especially curious if you have any
affinity for Chris Christie at all, because

879
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:06,880
he's, um, I mean,
he's not a New York guy, but

880
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,119
he's a New Jersey guy. So
I don't know if uh, maybe maybe

881
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:12,719
you know, he's kind of got
a little bit of that uh you know,

882
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,199
there's a similarity there. I don't
I don't know if New York people

883
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,000
like that when when out of towners
say that, uh, you know,

884
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:23,039
there's a similarity between New Yorkers and
New Jersey people. But I don't know

885
01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:27,599
how. I don't know how that
goes over. But uh, but I

886
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:30,440
am curious. I mean, is
is there anybody that you're you're kind of

887
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,320
looking at. I'm not I'm not
asking you to endorse somebody today, but

888
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,480
uh, anybody who uh who you're
interested in? So far, honestly not

889
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:43,840
at the moment, I I can
honestly say this, I am just waiting

890
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:51,880
for everyone to declare. And also
personally, I've been more focused on locally,

891
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:58,840
statewide and also um more like some
social issues in general, I haven't

892
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,679
really paid is close attention to who
has thrown their hat in the ring.

893
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:09,960
Sometimes I will get, you know, a very amusing um notification about an

894
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:14,079
article or you know, or or
an informative one. And I've watched a

895
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:17,880
couple of videos here and there,
But in general, I haven't really invested

896
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:23,199
to where I'm like, this is
the person that I plan to support or

897
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:27,000
would support. I mean, the
most amusing thing recently and this isn't even

898
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:31,320
Republican because I am a registered Republican. I will ad may I was amused

899
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:36,800
by national politics locally with RFK Junior
doing those push ups, which, by

900
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,159
the way, if I could be
that fit at seventy years old, oh

901
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,280
oh wow. But I was thinking
the outside of that. Yeah, I

902
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,639
hear a bit a bit of controversy
here and there. Uh, you know,

903
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,880
candidates will make statements about about this
or that, but no, I

904
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,159
haven't really Um. I know,
I know, I said, um,

905
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,000
And I feel bad because I always
get the name a little bit rama.

906
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,199
It's the vec Rama's I've been listening
to, uh, some videos, some

907
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:09,280
of his content, some of his
interviews, um de santis. I've been

908
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,679
following a little bit here and there. Um. Obviously there's a lot of

909
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,079
drama going on right now with you
know, with with Trump, with Biden.

910
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:20,880
Um. So that's actually another thing. With all the drama going on

911
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:27,239
with the primary candidates, the candidates
that are seen as the primary you know,

912
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,039
ones in the race, it has
kind of, I think pushed a

913
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:33,159
lot of people to say, Okay, if I want to step away from

914
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:35,760
the drama right now, okay,
that gives me an opportunity to look at

915
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:42,000
other individuals who who have thrown the
hat and as far as Chris Christy.

916
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:45,840
Um, it's funny because my in
laws, my husband was born in New

917
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:51,360
Jersey. My my in laws are
from New Jersey and on my on my

918
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:57,960
birth mother's side, Um, where
the families also from New Jersey. So

919
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,440
yeah, I was born in there
is New York. But so there are

920
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:09,519
some Jersey ties. Uh, I
don't know. I mean I kinder Chris

921
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:14,880
Christie when when I watch him and
he goes off on stuff. There are

922
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,519
certain people and this has nothing to
do with political affiliation, but when they

923
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:24,719
go off, just how they go
off about something, I swear in my

924
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:30,000
mind replaces them with a chihuahua barking
or something. Yeah, it's it's the

925
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,559
teacher from Charlie Brown. They become
the teacher from Charlie Brown. Yeah,

926
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,639
And it's just how they go off. Sometimes it's their tone of voice.

927
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:41,199
Some you know, it's it may
not even be what they're saying. That's

928
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:45,000
another thing. It's like you can
have you could be arguing a great point,

929
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,000
you actually could have the facts to
back it up. But if you

930
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:53,639
don't, if you fail to deliver
it, well, oh yeah, that's

931
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,599
that can be an issue in and
of itself. And for me when Chris

932
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,960
Christie speaks, I'm not gonna lie. I go a little bit Charlie Brown

933
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,679
out er, and I just hear
a bit of that teacher, I hear

934
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:10,320
a long yeah. Yeah. So
it surpiceed to say, No, I

935
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:15,360
really have not come to any conclusions
in regards to who I plan to and

936
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,800
who I personally would vote and vote
for and support for the Republican primary.

937
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:26,519
Yeah. Um. Eric Pilcher who
joins me on on Wednesdays, he's,

938
01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:29,760
UM, I don't know if you're
if you know Eric at all, but

939
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,599
he's you know, he's a evangelical
Christian conservative from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

940
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:38,760
Um, but he you know,
and he was a Trump guy, but

941
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,000
now he's he's a pretty repulse buyman. And he actually decided to endorse Chris

942
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:46,400
Christie, which surprised me a bit
because you know, Eric is conservative,

943
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,599
and I view Chris Christie is more
of a like a moderate, you know,

944
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:57,320
Northeastern blue state Republican UM although although
certainly conservative in some ways, but

945
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,159
overall he's he's kind of a more
moderate guy. But um, but what

946
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,800
I what I do appreciate and by
the way, I don't trust um.

947
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,960
Well, I don't. I don't
endorse candidates anyway, just as the host

948
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:11,679
of the show. I'm just not
comfortable, you know. I mean,

949
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,519
I'll be very open about who I
like and who I don't, and I'll

950
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:16,239
talk about who I voted for if
I'm asked, but I don't. I

951
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:19,159
don't officially endorse anybody. But but
Eric, you know, he does what

952
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:23,239
he wants, and you know he
endorsed Chris Christie and that's fine. But

953
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,600
um, but so I don't.
I don't trust Chris Christie. There are

954
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:32,760
things I like about him, but
I have never believed and you're geographically you're

955
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:39,560
I don't know how close you are
to where this happened. Probably not close

956
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,239
actually now that I'm thinking about it
in my mind. But I've never believed

957
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,640
that Chris Christie did not know what
was going on in Fort Lee, New

958
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,600
Jersey with Bridgegate. I I don't
believe him on that. I think he

959
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:58,840
knew exactly what was happening there.
So at the end of the day,

960
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,079
though, I mean, when we
go so for me, because I asked

961
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:09,520
a lot of politicians and this actually
goes deeper for me about politicians, Lyne,

962
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,399
right, I hear a lot of
people tell me that, you know,

963
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,079
we have all these crooked politicians,
We have these politicians that lie to

964
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:20,039
us, And a lot of people
talk is if it's something that's brand new

965
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:25,600
in our in our culture, and
I'm like that far far from it.

966
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,600
But I do honestly feel that to
an extent, uh, we the voting

967
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,239
public, and I include myself in
that, we've created the very politicians that

968
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:41,319
we that we despise, that we
go off about. And I think that

969
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,560
is because as a voting public,
especially in America as a nation, we're

970
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,960
fairly privileged. At the end of
the day, Right, we do have

971
01:09:49,039 --> 01:09:54,119
a great deal of wealth we have, you know, over overall we are

972
01:09:54,239 --> 01:10:00,439
doing fairly well. Um, I
think to a degree that's created. Have

973
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,960
my cake and eat it too when
it comes to the candidates that we choose

974
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,000
to support, because when we look
at that, when we get especially in

975
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,600
primaries, if we have a candidate
that comes before us and says, well,

976
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,119
I might be able to do this
for you, but this doesn't seem

977
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:16,840
realistic, and then we have the
other candidates saying, oh, I promise

978
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:23,560
you the world. Right, we
tend to toss aside, push aside the

979
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,800
candidate that's actually being honest with us
and saying, hey, listen, I

980
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,520
might not be able to do this, but I will do this, and

981
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,479
I will fight for this. That
candidate we won't accept in a general sense,

982
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,880
we don't seem to want to accept, and then we go for the

983
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,199
candidate that promises us the world,
and then we get all upset that we

984
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:44,159
have these crooked politicians once they don't
live up to our expectations. And so

985
01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:47,359
I really have come to the conclusion
that I think as voters, and like

986
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:50,399
I said, once again, I'm
including myself in that as a member of

987
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:55,439
the voting population, that to a
degree, we have created the politicians that

988
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,000
we have such a disdain for.
I think you're right because I I've often

989
01:11:01,119 --> 01:11:06,600
talked on the show Kevin about how, um, you know, we need

990
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:13,560
more buy in from voters in terms
of we need to take more responsibility as

991
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,439
voters, in terms of learning about
these candidates, not just listening to what

992
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,920
they say, because you can say
anything as a candidate, especially if you

993
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,680
don't think you're going to win,
if you don't think you have a shot,

994
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,159
you can promise the moon, it
doesn't matter because you're not going to

995
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:32,039
be held accountable if you know you're
gonna lose. But because there's other reasons

996
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:35,039
to run for office other than try
and actually win that office, like for

997
01:11:35,119 --> 01:11:39,039
the presidency. You know, most
people who run for president, they know

998
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:42,680
they're not going to win, but
maybe they want to raise their speaking fees

999
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:47,760
or just enhance their public profile or
maybe position. Maybe they'll know yet that

1000
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:56,439
VP exactly exactly. But what I
always say is, and I don't know,

1001
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,000
I don't know why this message isn't
out there. I feel like I'm

1002
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:00,640
the only one saying it. But
based on what you said, I think

1003
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,560
you'll agree with me. What we
need to do as voters is instead of

1004
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:10,000
just listening to what these candidates say, we need to actually learn about because

1005
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:15,000
you can get the information with websites
like OpenSecrets dot org for example. We

1006
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,439
need to make sure that we learn
about where these candidates are getting their funding,

1007
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,800
who is donating to their campaigns.
And by the way, I realize

1008
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,960
it's not all information that you can
get. You know, there's dark money

1009
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:30,000
with these superpacks and whatnot. There
are ways that they get around campaign finance

1010
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:31,359
law, but you can find out
some of it. Some of it is

1011
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:36,920
public information and if you know,
if you're able to find out who is

1012
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,800
contributing to these candidates, then you
know who they actually work for, because

1013
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,239
they don't work for us. I
mean I'm talking about you know, at

1014
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,560
the congressional level and of course the
presidency. They don't work for us.

1015
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,279
They work for whoever gives the money. Well, yeah, go ahead,

1016
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,760
I gotta say this, But you
are a little bit more ambitious than I

1017
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,039
am at this point, because I
would love for that too. I would

1018
01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:01,720
love for that too. I right
now would be happy to get voters to

1019
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,640
go to the campaign websites and look
up videos and information, you know,

1020
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:12,600
even videos of the candidate that they
might vote for, are speaking about issues.

1021
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,920
I want to get to that step
first, because we're not even I

1022
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,920
don't even feel that that we're at
that point by and large, when I

1023
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:25,399
talk to people about voting across the
political spectrum, asked them, how do

1024
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,439
you who did you vote for?
I remember, especially some of the younger

1025
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,720
generation. You know, I just
turned thirty eight, so I'm now saying

1026
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:38,880
the younger generation. I just it
hurts. It hurts along with the bones.

1027
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,960
But so when I speak to some
younger voters and I asked them,

1028
01:13:43,039 --> 01:13:45,720
how do you you know who did
you vote for? I've actually had a

1029
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,880
few people say to me, I
don't recall the name I just voted for

1030
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:53,680
this party, and that's common.
I would love to I just want to

1031
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,640
get people to I first want to
get people to the point where they know

1032
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,720
the names of the candidates that they're
going to be voting for and also have

1033
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,000
gone to at least the website or
seeing some videos on them before we get

1034
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:10,600
to what you said, I want
to get voters to that point. Yeah,

1035
01:14:11,319 --> 01:14:15,359
yeah, good point. Um.
I think that I think that most

1036
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,079
voters. This is going to sound
very cynical, but but I think most

1037
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,239
voters are low information voters. I
mean, if you're just if you're if

1038
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:28,439
you're voting based on what you see, you know on some based on a

1039
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,520
couple of YouTube videos and what your
friends tell you and whatnot which and by

1040
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,199
the way, I don't want to
but I don't want to sound like I'm

1041
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:39,319
I don't want to sound too negative
either. I realize I think because I

1042
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:43,880
think there are some people some people
I think are low information voters because they

1043
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,720
just don't care enough to really do
the research and put in that effort and

1044
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,039
it's just easier to say, oh, we got to get the money out

1045
01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:57,520
of politics and and and you know, chant those slogans than to actually do

1046
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,800
what we're talking about, which is
really learning about these candidates. But I

1047
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,239
also I also understand there. Look, there's a there's a segment of people

1048
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:10,000
who probably would like to be more
engaged, but they're also just very busy

1049
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:15,079
exactly. You know, it's it's
it's hard if you're if you're especially say

1050
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:17,840
if you're a single parent and you're
working two jobs and you're also trying to

1051
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,720
go to school so you can get
a better job, and you're you know,

1052
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,880
you're doing all this stuff to support
yourself and your kid and whatnot,

1053
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,079
just as an example, and uh, and maybe you just don't have the

1054
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:30,600
time. At the end of the
day, you're exhausted. And you know,

1055
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,279
because I know people in that situation
too, So I don't want to

1056
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:35,800
sound like I'm just dumping on everybody. So no, no, absolutely,

1057
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,800
and I not to catch up that
I totally can relate to that. And

1058
01:15:40,039 --> 01:15:44,439
that's the thing is like, while
it frustrates me that we don't have more

1059
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,319
voters that do this, I fully
understand why a majority of voters. Why

1060
01:15:49,359 --> 01:15:54,319
I think a majority of voters don't
really invest that time and energy is because

1061
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,439
you don't have it. I'll be
honest. I work ten hour shifts.

1062
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,119
I'm a warehouse worker. At the
end of the day, I've been on

1063
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:03,920
my feet all day my job.
I'm standing if I wasn't part of my

1064
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:09,119
local Republican committee and I and I
wasn't a candidate, I mean, if

1065
01:16:09,159 --> 01:16:13,000
I was detached from politics in that
way. When I get home from work,

1066
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,520
I want to relax on the couch. I don't want to read about

1067
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,239
the drama of politics. To be
honest, I want to get lost in

1068
01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:19,279
a book that I like, or
in a show that I like, or

1069
01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:21,880
a movie that I like. I
want to have dinner with my husband.

1070
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:25,840
I want to have a conversation with
them. I want to talk about those

1071
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,720
types of things. Politics is,
Honestly, I push it higher up,

1072
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:36,600
right, It's it's it's not automatically
there. I had to work to push

1073
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:42,600
politics higher up that. You know, what's what's important there? Yeah,

1074
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,479
and so I by no means it's
it's while it frustrates me, low information

1075
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:54,279
voting, it frustrates me. I
understand it because to be honest, I

1076
01:16:54,399 --> 01:16:58,079
contributed to it once. I was
one of those people. I was like,

1077
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:00,560
Okay, this is my party,
you know when I was back when

1078
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,319
I was a Democrat too. You
know. So I've been across the political

1079
01:17:03,399 --> 01:17:09,640
spectrum and it's it's they're all across
and I understand why my parents their view

1080
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,399
was why vote? They're all crooked? Anyways, Yeah, you know,

1081
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,520
well that's that's the other That's the
other thing too, is people get it.

1082
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,600
Not just too busy, but some
people just get so discouraged and they

1083
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:26,279
feel so disenfranchised and then yeah,
and then they do get into that headspace

1084
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:29,760
where they just go, oh,
what's the point. And actually I got

1085
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,439
a start. I got something amusing
from the local Democratic primary, the mayor

1086
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:39,720
primary for the Democrats, when they
had their debate. So the candidates had

1087
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,800
their one debate and our current mayor
um was asked, well, they were

1088
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:48,359
both asked about the just abysmal voter
turnout. I mean this is an issue

1089
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:53,920
across the country, of course,
especially in primary primary. Oh yeah,

1090
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:59,720
so they were asked about it,
and our current mayor actually said, well,

1091
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,079
I think voter low vot voter turnout
is a result of people being happy

1092
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:11,000
with how things are. He actually
said that answer. That was his answer

1093
01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:15,199
to this question, and it was
just like, I'm not I actually went

1094
01:18:15,319 --> 01:18:18,399
to the debate, so I was
there in person. I kind of scoffed

1095
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:21,399
a little bit like laughed, and
it wasn't that's not even about you know,

1096
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:25,960
the fact that he's a Democrat.
That's the fact that a lot of

1097
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:30,239
politicians. That seems to be their
response to this, I feel is or

1098
01:18:30,279 --> 01:18:31,920
at least an argument they will make. I don't think they believe. It

1099
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:35,000
was that, well, everyone's happy, so of course that's why we're having

1100
01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:40,119
this this low voter turnout. But
that was his response, and it was

1101
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:44,960
just, wow, well that is
that is what you believe. Well,

1102
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,279
it's kind of like, though he
said the quiet part out loud, because

1103
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,800
if you are an incumbent, it
is to your advantage. Incumbents always want

1104
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:57,039
low voter turnout, because that's true. Yeah, if you're an incumbent,

1105
01:18:57,119 --> 01:19:00,880
that means, you know, you're
probably safe. It's it's people people turn

1106
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,479
out when they want change. So
in a sense, he's actually he's not

1107
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:09,159
he's not wrong. He's just kind
of saying something you're not really supposed to

1108
01:19:09,279 --> 01:19:13,920
say. And if you want to
take what he said and make it reflect

1109
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,119
reality a little bit better. Well, I mean what he's really saying is

1110
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:21,800
people are happy enough that they're apathetic
enough to not turn out to vote.

1111
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,720
I won't go that far. So
they're happy enough, I would just say

1112
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,079
they're more comfortable they yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's a better way.

1113
01:19:32,359 --> 01:19:34,520
I would say that. You know, the devil, you know,

1114
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,000
always seems to be to be better
at the end of the day for most

1115
01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:41,520
people, right, I would,
I would. I would say more along

1116
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,640
those lines than that they're comfortable,
because I've met people who are certainly not

1117
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,199
comfortable, but they still don't vote. Yeah, and it's because they just

1118
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,680
don't have faith in it at all. But if they do vote, they

1119
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,920
just vote because they are afraid of
what if it changes? Because change change

1120
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,239
can be better, but it can
still be worse, right, right,

1121
01:20:01,319 --> 01:20:05,199
So you know, it's it's kind
of like that old thing where you want

1122
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:09,359
to throw that old thing when someone
says, oh, things couldn't get worse,

1123
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:13,079
you want to throw something at him, right, Yeah, you know,

1124
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,520
it always can, and so change
it is difficult. We are not

1125
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:24,439
a people that like change people.
We tend to resist that even those who

1126
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,960
seem to embrace change on some level, there's certain types of change that they

1127
01:20:29,039 --> 01:20:33,000
don't adapt too well or they fear. So I would I would say that

1128
01:20:33,039 --> 01:20:36,479
it's more about that it's the devil
they know. Uh, they may not,

1129
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,199
they might not be happy, but
heck, if they change it up,

1130
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:44,680
things could get worse. Yeah,
yeah, no, I think I

1131
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,640
think that's a good that's a good
insight. Um absolutely, Um do you

1132
01:20:51,079 --> 01:20:57,399
have you been following uh anything?
Were you following again? I don't know

1133
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,920
if you have time related how much
time you have to pay attention to the

1134
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,760
news, But over the weekend,
were you watching what was going on in

1135
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:09,199
Russia? I was okay, So
I don't know whether so. One of

1136
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:11,880
the other things that's fortunate for me
is that when I go to work,

1137
01:21:12,359 --> 01:21:15,399
Um, since I work in a
warehouse in my position, I pop an

1138
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,640
ear butt in and I'll listen to
commentators and show like that. Um.

1139
01:21:19,119 --> 01:21:23,039
So I will admit I'm fortunate in
that regard. There are a lot of

1140
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:26,479
people who have even similar types of
jobs of me that can't, you know,

1141
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,359
jobs as me that can't do that. But as long as I have

1142
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,199
one ear free. My company's policy
is yeah, you can have you can

1143
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,479
listen to music or whatever. So
while most of my co workers all listening

1144
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,600
to music, I'm listening to the
podcast from time to time. UM,

1145
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,119
but I haven't really followed so much
on the Russia. I will admit from

1146
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:47,840
a personal perspective, it's the month
of June, so it's been it's it's

1147
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:53,199
it's been a specific focus, especially
in my circle of friends, in my

1148
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,079
political friends, obviously dealing with pride
and law of the drama concerning that and

1149
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,560
denouncing a Pride month. All.
That's as far as the Russia, Yeah,

1150
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,920
I had recently heard a bit more
details on it. Um. You

1151
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,439
know, I'm horrible with the names
that I get the idea. You know

1152
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,880
that we had the military, basically
a military crew. There was an attempt

1153
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,279
at that um and from when I
understand there was they wanted to take out

1154
01:22:16,279 --> 01:22:21,680
a specific general and there wasn't you
know, obviously a march on Moscow itself.

1155
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,800
But then I know that that was
that was quashed. It was an

1156
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,640
agreement made and the leader was exiled, I believe, right, Yeah,

1157
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,880
I basically yeah, I guess I
was curious because when you were talking about

1158
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:39,479
change and change being being uh,
scary for people and whatnot. I couldn't

1159
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,039
help. I hadn't planned on asking
you about Russia. But then you're when

1160
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:45,279
you were talking about change, my
mind went to um, you know,

1161
01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:48,920
and the devil, you know,
I I that made my mind went to

1162
01:22:49,039 --> 01:22:53,960
Putin and how you know, people
were kind of wringing their hands over you

1163
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,560
know, what's going to happen in
Moscow? Are they going to get Putin

1164
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,760
out? And then does Progosion go
in? And does he end up being

1165
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,159
even worse? And of course none
of it, none of it panned out.

1166
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:06,800
But yeah, now we don't know
apparently, So now Progosion is in

1167
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:12,600
Belarus, but nobody's actually seen him
publicly, so is he really there?

1168
01:23:13,039 --> 01:23:15,199
And now there's a general who's missing
who might have had something to do with

1169
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:20,039
it, So it's all very We're
gonna find out he accidentally beat himself to

1170
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:27,840
death with a tire iland Yeah,
he actually, you know, he accidentally

1171
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,720
strangled himself, you know, you
know, accidentally shot himself from a distance,

1172
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,000
but yeah, accidentally poisoned himself.
Yeah. I've heard some people making

1173
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:41,880
comments and that we go, that's
that is a great example that when we

1174
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:48,159
look to other countries and they are
absolute tyrants in leadership. If those tyrants

1175
01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:54,039
leave, something worse can always come
in. You leave a void. And

1176
01:23:54,359 --> 01:23:58,239
that's one of the problems is like
if if you're a country that's going to

1177
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,800
go into another country to try that
in any way shake up leadership, you

1178
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:08,039
better have a long term plan because
if you're if you're only going into try

1179
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:13,479
to remove leadership, whether encouraging the
people to revolve or vote the leader out

1180
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,439
or whatever it may be, you
better at least have the understanding that what

1181
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,920
we places, you know, the
current leadership could always be worse. And

1182
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:27,520
so you know, and obviously as
a as a world, we have not

1183
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,479
followed that. We have not really
seemed to have kept that in mind always

1184
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,439
throughout history. Right. Um.
But but it's similar because people do ask

1185
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,920
why do we put up with these
tyrants? You know, why do we

1186
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,199
put up with these certain leaders around
the world doing this, doing that?

1187
01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:45,399
And it's it is go back to
the devil. You know, at the

1188
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,199
end of the day, at least
you know this individual, you know their

1189
01:24:47,279 --> 01:24:51,039
habits, I mean for pouting himself. He's been in power. How long

1190
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:56,119
now has it been? About twenty
three years? Twenty twenty three yeah,

1191
01:24:56,239 --> 01:24:59,640
like twenty yeah, so twenty three
yeah, over twenty years. So this

1192
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,479
is a and who's been in this
position for such an extended period of time.

1193
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,159
And while he has certainly done some
horrific things, and he you know,

1194
01:25:06,359 --> 01:25:10,319
and just in general, he does
not reflect our you know, I

1195
01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:13,479
don't feel that he reflects American values
at all. At the end of the

1196
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:19,000
day, there could always be something
something worse. M And what speaks to

1197
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:25,600
another thing is I really get annoyed
with this mindset of the enemy of my

1198
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,600
enemy is my friend, because we
tend to have that, And I'm like,

1199
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,000
no, the enemy of your enemy
can still very well be your enemy,

1200
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,279
you know. But I feel like
we get get into that. And

1201
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:42,039
I've seen that a lot with um. I know you said his name,

1202
01:25:42,119 --> 01:25:45,279
but at least from what I heard
the local, you know, our media

1203
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,439
tended to be like, oh yay, you know, Putin could possibly be

1204
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:55,479
overthrown and supporting another guy, I'm
like, why are you cheering that well?

1205
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,600
I mean, at the end of
the day, do you have any

1206
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,199
reason into really cheerless? Do you
have anything that tells you this guy is

1207
01:26:02,319 --> 01:26:08,680
going to be better or going to
be something that you know, something that

1208
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:14,760
won't even turn out worse, that
won't actually have had catastrophic consequences. And

1209
01:26:15,279 --> 01:26:19,520
I've noticed that across the spectrum,
even in politics regarding the war in Ukraine

1210
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,399
and stuff. So it's it's it's
been one of the most frustrating things for

1211
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:30,720
me because I've seen certain people,
you know, and I've seen this amongst

1212
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,960
some conservative circles come out with,
you know, in support of Putin or

1213
01:26:35,119 --> 01:26:40,119
you know, yes Ukraine. And
my response is, then why, Because

1214
01:26:40,119 --> 01:26:44,720
I have a question for you.
We as conservatives especially we loved our constitution,

1215
01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:47,479
right, we love the freedoms granted
to us in our constitution. What

1216
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,920
freedom in our constitution do you think
Putin would fight for? Or freedom do

1217
01:26:53,039 --> 01:26:56,560
you think he would die for?
Yeah? Like, can we know how

1218
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,159
he's treated the press, We know
how he's treated the church, and you

1219
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:01,560
know, as long as the church
supports what he says, then he's fine

1220
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,600
with the church. But he's gone
after the church's he you know, like

1221
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,399
I said, the press, he's
gone after military, he's done all this.

1222
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:15,680
So what values American values, what
values rooted in the constitution, Especially

1223
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:20,840
as a conservative who loves our constitution, what would Putin support there nothing.

1224
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,920
We know that at the end of
the day. So I've gotten to a

1225
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:30,000
few of those discussions with conservative leaning
individuals who as a knee jerk reaction.

1226
01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:34,880
Well, the current administration and the
Democrats are all about Ukraine, so that

1227
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:39,720
means we got to be about Russia. Something you know, can just be

1228
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,359
crap. Both can just be crap
at the end of the day. Right,

1229
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,039
Ukraine can be have a corrupt government
just like Russia. All Right,

1230
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:49,960
corruption is all around. Just so
to go back, Sorry, I know

1231
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:54,039
I'm getting a little bit because I've
had some really intense conversations on this.

1232
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,119
It does frustrate me. The enemy
of my enemy is not my friend.

1233
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Many times not my friend even remotely. Yeah, they can be right,

1234
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,119
they can be an ally on something, but that's as far as I will

1235
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:09,279
go in a general census thing.
They can be your ally ally on a

1236
01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:14,239
point, but but your friend,
no, And that that is That has

1237
01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:17,920
been a regular conversation for me.
Actually, um, yeah, it's not

1238
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,800
that. It's it's good that you're
confronting people on that. That's something I've

1239
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:26,439
I've talked about on the show a
lot too. Is is the this pro

1240
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,279
Russia wing of the Republican Party,
which I mean, I think it's certainly

1241
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:34,880
a small part of the Republican Party, but it is there, and uh,

1242
01:28:35,119 --> 01:28:39,000
you know, and I often give
the example too of Tucker Carlson,

1243
01:28:39,039 --> 01:28:42,960
who obviously has not held office,
but um, but you know, until

1244
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,920
his ouster from Fox News, he
was the number one guy in all of

1245
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,720
cable news, and he's pro Russia. You know, when when when Putin

1246
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,680
first and UH invaded Ukraine, he
Tucker Carlson, he said on the air

1247
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,159
that he was rooting for Putin and
UH and Laura Ingram I see some of

1248
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,920
that, and so I think some
of that is meat driven, and it

1249
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:03,800
is and it actually pre dates UH
Putin going into Ukraine. I mean,

1250
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:10,399
there's there's been a growing pro Russia
UH segment of the Republican Party for a

1251
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,039
while. But it's it's good that
you're that you're confronting that, Kevin,

1252
01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:18,159
and I respect that that that you
do that. Um, when when you

1253
01:29:18,279 --> 01:29:21,920
do that, I mean, do
you get any kind of explanation other than

1254
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,079
I mean, you know, you
said it. There's kind of an attitude

1255
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:30,239
of well, you know, the
Democrats are with Ukraine, so we're with

1256
01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:33,680
Russia. But I mean does anyone
say anything anything beyond that and anything that

1257
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,560
that makes sense to you? Or
is it just is it all just as

1258
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,399
sort of weird knee jerk reaction as
you described. I'm just curious, like

1259
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,760
what the mindset is, because I
don't get it. I think for the

1260
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,199
most part it is it is a
knee jerk reaction because at the end of

1261
01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:50,920
the day, even when I've talked
to some because I've even talked on the

1262
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:55,720
other end to that, because a
lot of Democrats have been just automatically you

1263
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,880
know pro Ukraine and yes, okay, you know, Ukraine is the country

1264
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,600
I was invaded here, right,
Russia made the aggressive action, so Ukraine

1265
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,640
is completely justified in fighting back.
But at the end of the day,

1266
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:13,680
there's been this, this this um
push in a way to put Ukraine on

1267
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,600
a pedestal from the left. I'm
like, no, I've seen, Like

1268
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,680
for me, I've seen people do
a blend of the American flag and you

1269
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,159
know, the Ukrainian flag. No, I'm not going to be doing that.

1270
01:30:25,239 --> 01:30:29,479
I'm not gonna plug the Ukrainian flag
on my profile. I'm not going

1271
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,680
to do any of that because Ukraine, even though I acknowledge that in this

1272
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:38,920
situation. They were the they are
the country that was invaded. I'm not

1273
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:45,760
going to then be like for on
Ukraine because do they reflect my values are?

1274
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,319
You know, war is horrific.
My heart goes out to the people.

1275
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:54,199
Absolutely what's happening is absolutely horrific.
But you know, at the end

1276
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:00,560
of the day, I just being
a cheerleader for any country without the full

1277
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,840
context of the government, it's leadership, a corruption and you know how it

1278
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,560
came to be and how we got
to where we are. I just find

1279
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,279
it crazy to do that. But
yes, it hasn't been a lot.

1280
01:31:12,319 --> 01:31:15,039
I do want to say that that
in regards to specifically on my end,

1281
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:19,640
the conservative perspective, I haven't seen
a lot of necessarily pro PU in pro

1282
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Russia, and I do think that
when I have seen it, it's mostly

1283
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,680
a knee jerk reaction to the fact
that we have Ukraine strongly associated with Biden

1284
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:36,840
in his administration and increasingly the Democratic
Party overall. Is that obviously, well,

1285
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,760
my opposition is saying they support this, So now I must say I'm

1286
01:31:42,279 --> 01:31:44,960
you know, I'm against this,
or you know, or I support the

1287
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,199
opposite. That tends to be how
we are and how we are becoming increasingly

1288
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:54,920
right, regardless of the situation or
the issue at hand. Yeah, yeah,

1289
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,680
well yeah, like we were talking
about earlier, and yeah, absolutely

1290
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:03,359
absolutely, um we are, we
are already, Jessic, go so fast,

1291
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,920
Kevin. Oh, by the way, my dad is My dad is

1292
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:11,359
in the chat room, Martin Connerton, and he sent me a private message

1293
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,439
mentioning to me that he was looking
forward to you being on today. He

1294
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,960
likes you very much, and uh
it was very complimentary towards you. So

1295
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,279
I just want you to know that
I didn't even get to what I planned

1296
01:32:21,319 --> 01:32:24,760
to talk about more today, which
I was like, I have to come

1297
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,680
back on for that. Um.
I know. One of the things I

1298
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,159
had said during the end of our
last UM stream was that I had basically

1299
01:32:33,239 --> 01:32:41,399
disassociated myself from the community by and
large in regards to it's for me.

1300
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,239
It's to a point, especially this
past month of June, I've seen things

1301
01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:51,119
to where I honestly I can say
that I fully have. I consider myself

1302
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:58,079
disassociated from the community as a officially
as a as a community quote unquote community

1303
01:32:58,359 --> 01:33:00,920
and what I see as in A
and U as a push for things that

1304
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:04,680
certainly do not reflect my values.
So I want. I was expecting that

1305
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,840
discussion, but I've enjoyed this discussion. Oh yeah, that has been great.

1306
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:11,920
Yeah, yeah, you know me, I keep it loose and we

1307
01:33:12,079 --> 01:33:15,880
go where we go. But um, but well, just briefly though,

1308
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,079
I don't I don't want, and
I'm sorry that we don't have more time,

1309
01:33:18,119 --> 01:33:20,600
but just just briefly, well,
I want to clarify too. When

1310
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,920
you say the community, you mean
the gay community, the LGBTQ plus community.

1311
01:33:26,039 --> 01:33:30,680
Yes, yeah, I wanted to
clarify that because if anyone's listening,

1312
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,680
uh in Schenectady, I don't.
I don't want them to think you're you're

1313
01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:42,079
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want anyone

1314
01:33:42,119 --> 01:33:46,600
to think you were saying, ah, screw could Schenectady. Okay, it's

1315
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,000
just because you know, people might
not know, all right, I mentioned

1316
01:33:50,119 --> 01:33:54,640
I mentioned June and Pride months so
I felt like that delivered, you know,

1317
01:33:55,039 --> 01:33:58,520
yeah, I just yeah, but
I just want to make sure okay,

1318
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,520
Okay, Yeah, I appreciate that
because I've realized, you know,

1319
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,600
as we all would, probably had
those experiences when you say something and you

1320
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,359
think you're being clear and saying it. Well, let's see you could not

1321
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,479
make it more clear, and someone's
like you meant this and they take such

1322
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,319
offense, and you're like, no, well, especially Kevin, especially in

1323
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,640
politics, if something, because it
would be the easiest things, you know,

1324
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,079
especially in the world we live in
now, with the technology that we

1325
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:25,319
have in social media, would be
the easiest thing in the world for one

1326
01:34:25,359 --> 01:34:29,560
of your opponents to clip you saying
I'm just engaging from the community and then

1327
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,880
putting that, putting that out there. It's like this guy, this guy

1328
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,520
wants to represent us. He doesn't
even like us, you know what I

1329
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:40,000
mean. So that's the thing,
though, I'm also someone who's not a

1330
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:44,239
not a play to clarify things,
although I do know all the fact that

1331
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:47,520
once that is what would be made
the headline, but the clarification would be

1332
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,920
made the byeline would be wouldn't even
be on the first page, right right?

1333
01:34:51,039 --> 01:34:54,600
Yeah, yeah, you know it
would it would it would be it

1334
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:59,319
would be on on like the forty
six page. Uh yeah, no,

1335
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,880
I yeah, I totally agree that. I appreciate you clarifying that. Yes,

1336
01:35:03,079 --> 01:35:06,720
yes, it's a it's a dirty
business man, it's a dirty business.

1337
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,119
Um. But all right, well
listen, because yeah, we're up

1338
01:35:12,119 --> 01:35:14,840
against the clock. But one thing
I definitely want to make sure you get

1339
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,760
in for listeners who want to know
where to find you online. Uh,

1340
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,319
if there's anyone listening from your area
who wants to know more about your campaign

1341
01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:26,680
and anything you want to make sure
that we know about. Oh yeah,

1342
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:32,000
absolutely. You can easily find us
UM on Facebook. I'm going up the

1343
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,880
exact for that. My phone is
acting up a little bit. Oh um,

1344
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:43,479
so I had this down. So
we're your GOP candidates for Schennecty City

1345
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:49,199
Council on Facebook, so you can
find about us there. We also do

1346
01:35:49,600 --> 01:36:00,159
have um a website. We have
the Schenectoy uh Schenectady GOP Council dot com,

1347
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,680
so you can find more about us
there. So please please do check.

1348
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:11,039
Oh sorry, UM, Schenecta the
City Council twenty twenty three dot com

1349
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:15,399
is where you can find out more
about us. You can find out about

1350
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,560
all the city council candidates and there's
also a link to our mayoral candidate,

1351
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:25,359
Matt Elegant. Um I do,
I don't really, I do. Sorry.

1352
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:30,279
My Instagram is just my personal one, UM, but you I'm Kevin

1353
01:36:30,319 --> 01:36:33,840
Hammer on there. You can also
find me on Twitter. Uh it's similar

1354
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:40,520
for the campaign on Twitter as well, and we also have we have our

1355
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:45,600
links up for donations for our campaign. And you can also find me personally

1356
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:50,000
on YouTube. This is separate.
This is just me individually, and I'm

1357
01:36:50,119 --> 01:36:56,960
the issues from left to right on
YouTube and I stream there as often as

1358
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,640
I can, discussing um a lot
of issues that I care personally. Okay,

1359
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,640
all right, very good, all
right, Kevin, thank you so

1360
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,600
much. Always a pleasure to have
you on and we enjoy speaking with you,

1361
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,520
and uh, well we'll do it
again obviously, but thanks, thanks

1362
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,119
for your time today, and be
safe out there and the when the bad

1363
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:21,840
air comes, toy, I have
mine hailer close. Hate to have to

1364
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:25,720
do that, but yes, I
have mine hailor close. And I absolutely

1365
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:30,680
look forward to being on again in
hopefully the fairly near future. Yes,

1366
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,640
and I wish every I wish everyone
a good day. All right, Kevin,

1367
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,720
thank you, my friend, Take
care, all right? Bye bye?

1368
01:37:36,359 --> 01:37:40,760
All right. That was Kevin Hammer
from Schenectady, New York. And

1369
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,239
we yeah, we are out of
time, so if you miss any part

1370
01:37:44,279 --> 01:37:46,399
of today's show, it will be
up in just a little bit at WMH

1371
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:51,560
Radio. Dot org and on my
website Matt Connerton dot com. Let's see.

1372
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,000
Also want to remind you what we've
got coming up tomorrow on the program.

1373
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,880
We have, of course, uh, the return of Eric Ultures classic

1374
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,000
film review Eric our friend from Cedar
Rapids, Iowa. This week, the

1375
01:38:04,079 --> 01:38:10,079
subject is Raiders of the Lost Ark, which is the original Indiana Jones film

1376
01:38:10,119 --> 01:38:13,920
for you young uns who might not
know that. So I remember seeing that

1377
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,600
with my dad when I was a
kid. So that will be the film

1378
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,800
review. So we'll do that probably
toward the end of the first hour,

1379
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:24,079
and then in the second hour we
have Hue the Gecko joining us live in

1380
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:28,680
studio. Last time Huie was with
us, it was pretty interesting and I'm

1381
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,479
sure that this time will be as
well. So I really look forward to

1382
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:36,119
that. And let's see it is
Thursday, which means if you are listening

1383
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:42,079
live on WMNH, coming up next
is Through the Stage Store hosted by the

1384
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:45,640
Great Rob Dieon and don't forget to
be back bright in early seven am tomorrow

1385
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,920
for the morning show with Peter White, and don't forget tomorrow night Retrospect your

1386
01:38:50,039 --> 01:38:54,359
Radio with Police. I'll be here
for that as well, all right,

1387
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,039
So we're gonna get out of here. Oh I know what. We'll close

1388
01:38:58,119 --> 01:39:00,680
with one enough time to play the
whole song, but we'll play a little

1389
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,439
bit of this, a little rocky
mountain mic song called Runaway Coup, which

1390
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:10,319
is a parody of Runaround Sue,
because we did talk about Russia a little

1391
01:39:10,319 --> 01:39:12,520
bit. All right, I'll talk
to y'all a little bit later. By everybody,
