1 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,839 We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Kashinsky, 2 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,480 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:27,359 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on Twitter at fdr LST, 4 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:29,879 and if you'd like to support our work, make sure to go over 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,960 to the Federalist dot com and sign up for the premium version of our website. 6 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:37,320 I'm joined today because it's Thursday, after all, by Christopher Bedford, 7 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:41,640 Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society. Talk about a couple of different 8 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:44,920 things. The first thing, though, Chris, I don't know if we've 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,600 actually mentioned this on the podcast, but we have to mention it today because 10 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:55,920 the first annual Dow Prize award was given last night by the National Journalism Center, 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,560 which my part time job is being the director of the National Journalism Center, 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,119 but both of us are on njc's board of governors. You've been involved 13 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:07,280 for years, longer than I have with NJC, and NJC launched this prize 14 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,959 last night. Gave the first award one hundred thousand dollars to the Twitter Files 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,599 team, Matt Taibi, Barry Weiss, Michael Schellenberger, two finalist awards of 16 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:22,079 ten thousand dollars each were given to Aaron Sibarium of the Washington Freebeacon and then 17 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:26,680 also to the duo Joseph Simonson and Andrew Kerr of the Washington Freebeacon. The 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Freebeacon got a finalist to sweep in there, but as members of the board, 19 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,959 we were tasked with reading some eight hundred pages of reporting, including the 20 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,760 excellent work of Margo Cleveland here at The Federalist, and grading these things on 21 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:45,560 a five scale, a five point scale in three different categories, and then 22 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,319 voting, then doing another round of voting, and the winners last night were 23 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:55,439 the result of that process. The goal of the award is it came from 24 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Gabe Kaminski, who, when he was interning at The Federalist and then at 25 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,560 the Day Wire, had just been doing such fantastic work. He graduated from 26 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,080 college, went on to the Daily Caller and was doing more fantastic work. 27 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:15,120 And we thought to ourselves, we have to recognize the sort of unsung heroes 28 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:20,800 of American journalism who are being smeared by other journalists and who are getting basically 29 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:25,840 no prestige even though they deserve it. They're doing real reporting that's extremely detailed 30 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,800 and thorough compelling, and they deserve some recognition, but instead they get smeared 31 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:37,199 and attacked, and bad reporting wins awards. Good reporting gets ignored or attacked, 32 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,759 And so we gave Gabe an alumni award. Some supporters saw that, 33 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Dalfang and Angela who they saw that at the dinner when we announced it last 34 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:50,520 year, and they were like, we got to sort of scale this up, 35 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:54,680 and they gave an amazing donation to NJC and to Young America's Foundation to 36 00:02:54,759 --> 00:03:00,560 turn that into one hundred thousand dollars annual award every year, and last night 37 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:05,319 was the first one. Matt Tayby has been so gracious and humbled, so 38 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,479 have Barry and Michael by their in their acceptance. Matt wrote a great piece 39 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,039 about it this morning. It's just been kind of a whirlwind of a couple 40 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,360 of days and actually the last six months or so. It was planned on 41 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,439 a really short time scale. What did you think, Chris, of how 42 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,879 last night went? It was excellent, good congratulations, good good works all 43 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,759 of us. It really showed. It was great that it was at the 44 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:35,560 Press Club, Yes, right down down at the National Press Club believes the 45 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:38,719 beast. We're right next to Old Evit Grill. Oh, that makes a 46 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,000 very tall martini. Shelley's back room where everyone went afterwards, that's for sure, 47 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:45,479 except for you. You went to Old Abbott. I hate Shelley's packer. 48 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,120 I do too. I don't have the dry cleaning budget for that. 49 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:53,439 No. I actually I had a really busy daby previously, so I was 50 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:58,280 writing out the invocation at Old Ebit Grill and they made our drinks and Sarah 51 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,840 went to cheers. But they were so filled that it was truly a Catholic 52 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:05,879 event in that there was a gin soaked prayer and there was nothing I could 53 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:08,520 do to stop it. I was like, I hope no one spells this. 54 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,520 Yeah. Chris gave actually a really beautiful prayer to start the evening. 55 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:16,639 He started in Latin, started and ended, it's important. You have to 56 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:20,600 remind everyone where we come from. Most people don't know a lotin anymore, 57 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,000 but the devil still does. It was incredible. It was you know, 58 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:33,720 it's important. There's a there's the Twitter and Politico and all these different aggregators, 59 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:39,560 CNN, MSNBC. There despite a lot of backbuding, and they largely 60 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,199 are very supportive of each other. We have a strong ecosystem that pushes each 61 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,000 other's stories. The Publicsher Prize goes out there and gives awards for like I 62 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,600 think if you go to the last ten years of the Publisher Prize, you'd 63 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,040 probably find a couple which were just completely false narratives. I mean, Russia 64 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,759 collusion. And that's part of the genesis of this. As we were talking 65 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,759 as a board about why this was important, Russia collusion, I think the 66 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,240 sixteen nineteen project Appelitzer as well. Yeah, I mean, it's just false 67 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,800 stuff. They back each other up. They I mean, much of America's 68 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,399 elite right now. You know, you can go to Harvard and study the 69 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:15,879 classics without actually learning ancient Greek. They don't teach anymore. It's it's it's 70 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,959 all about accreditation, and they've got a very phenomenal and extremely efficient accreditation system 71 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:27,480 where if you try to you know, if you line up a Yale or 72 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,199 a Princeton, or a Harvard graduate now or a Publicer Prize winning journalist now 73 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,319 today against a one of those graduates of one of those institutions fifty sixty, 74 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,040 seventy years ago, eighty years ago, or a winner one of the Publisher 75 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,480 Prize forty years ago. There's no comparison in the intelligence and the skill and 76 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:46,680 the professionalism and the knowledge that these people have. But they still have that 77 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:50,000 piece of paper, they have that credit, and you know, the rights 78 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,800 not that great at it. It's a smaller ecosystem. And despite the fact 79 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,160 that there's I think there's plenty of rum out there actually like how well the 80 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,639 Federals works. The people a lot of places don't like. If you're like, 81 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,600 hey, what do you think about your fellows at conservative media, they'll 82 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:10,879 say the Daily Wire liberals or or the Daily Callers porn or just whatever. 83 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,199 They go at each other and they backbite. Nothing wrong with saying the Daily 84 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,720 Callers porn. It used to be. They kind of cucked on that. 85 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:21,519 I loved the Cadupton content. I clicked on every article. We got an 86 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:30,759 email once from me priest saying with a string grab of the Daily Callers homepage 87 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,800 that said, Hey, I know that you guys have to make a living, 88 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:40,800 but my recommended articles are all these slide shows and it's just I just 89 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,480 come here for news. What are you doing? And I had writing back 90 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,439 that's recommended articles were correlated to his browsing history. You ones actually told me, 91 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,759 and this is stuck with me for a number of reasons. I always 92 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,120 clicked on like the Real Housewives slide shows of the Kardashian slide shows, and 93 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,480 you once told me, this is probably more than five years ago, that 94 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,720 the highest click rate on those were among women, Like, actually those were 95 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:08,920 not for men. Those were for women. At one point they certainly were. 96 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:14,360 We had a really funny entertainment editor, Taylor Bigler, whose captions were 97 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:16,759 just perfect. I'm sure they say the internet's forever, but actually the internet 98 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:19,759 breaks, like when website's five years old if you don't constantly update, Like 99 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:23,519 none of the pictures work. The amount of some of this is good, 100 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,920 by the way, the amount of videos that we made in the office that 101 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,360 are like just they're on Gray Stoffward's hard drive, but they're no longer accessible 102 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:33,079 on the internet. But the point is to get back to the original. 103 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,879 And they supported excellent reporting. Yeah they did. And you know, we 104 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:42,160 used to run polls at the daily collar of our readers and they would say, 105 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,120 like the number one thing that they care about is like taxation, regulation 106 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:46,839 and corruption and government, and the last thing they care about his slides shows, 107 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:50,399 but I saw what they clicked. Yeah, and like, we put 108 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:55,519 weeks into a story and it would just would get one twentieth the clicks of 109 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,079 the Gate Up slide show. But it wasn't important anyways. To get back 110 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:03,519 to it is to have that the Doubt Prize is not a ten thousand dollars 111 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:07,600 prize or a twenty thousand dollars prize. It was its first year ever. 112 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,839 People hadn't heard of it. They knew it was the National Journalism Center, 113 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,000 Stan Evans and all that, But to have so many applicants, I was 114 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,759 blown away by the number of applicants, the quality of applicants, the broad 115 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:26,399 swath of applicants, the and then also by the way when I signed up 116 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:30,120 for this board position, this unpaid board position, it did not come with 117 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,840 forty hours of reading. So I think we're going to have to put a 118 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,480 stake dinner on the calendar at on JC steak dinner. I'm going to do 119 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,399 better. First, I'm going to do better. I'll fill you in on 120 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 it. But yeah, so, like the Daily Caller is such a good 121 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,200 example, and I honestly wish that you know at least five different of the 122 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,960 submissions could have won the award last night, and I think the benefit of 123 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,399 having this. It was painful to pick some of them. I was like, 124 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,720 that's not that great of the submission. But some of them were just 125 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,440 incredible work. It hurt, you know. So, Gabe Kaminski did a 126 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:03,600 fantastic series on the Global Disinform Index with The Washington Examiner, and it is 127 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:09,399 so competitive. Margo's work was so competitive. It's just fantastic submissions. Ryan 128 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Grimm had this amazing long essay called The Elephant in the Zoom that was this 129 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:26,639 thoroughly reported dive into how progressive nonprofits were basically screwing themselves with wokeness, like 130 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,399 wokeness was really paralyzing progressionated him very highly because that was such an interesting story 131 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:37,279 and it was the first glimmer of light in the breaking of the woke stranglehold. 132 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Now, not one of those one of those people who's like, oh, 133 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:43,279 it's a pendiclum it goes back and forth, like every time it goes 134 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,799 back, it just leaves behind cartage and got it infrastructure they'll never be fixed. 135 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,480 But it is started like the actual the fever of it, like early 136 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,000 French Revolution, just massacres in the streets. Fever is starting to break. 137 00:09:56,039 --> 00:10:01,080 And the first hint of that was that it's not working. It's paralyzing nonprofits. 138 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,240 And I've heard for years from friends in the corporate world it's paralyzing corporations. 139 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,519 And that's what Aaron Sabarium's winning series touched on. Yeah, right, 140 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:13,440 yeah, I mean it just again, like to go back to The Daily 141 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Caller. They had some great submissions too. They had Jenny Tair's Border reporting, 142 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,399 which she caught the administration basically stonewalling on important information about what was happening 143 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,840 at the border. There were just so many great submissions, and The Caller 144 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:33,639 is just a great example also of an institution where you have reporting that is 145 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,559 higher caliber. For years, they've been doing this reporting that is a higher 146 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,399 caliber than so many of the so called mainstream news outlets that are competitive for 147 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:50,639 Pulitzer prizes. Luke Rosiak of The Daily Wire did a story with Kenny Chu 148 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,639 that was really competitive also, and he came out of The Daily Caller. 149 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,279 He came out of the early days of The Daily Caller when Tucker and Neil 150 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,159 and you were saying, we need to do conservative reporting, we need to 151 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 have a shoe leather journalism from the right, and Luke is a great example 152 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,120 of somebody who if he were a liberal, if he were a centrist, 153 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,000 someone who purported to be a centrist but was actually just an open liberal, 154 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:18,440 he would be fed it all over town. And you know, that's not 155 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,799 to say that journalists should do it for the awards, should do it for 156 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,440 the prestige, should do it to go to black tie dinners, But it 157 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,840 is to say the incentive structure is broken. What incentive do you have to 158 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:33,720 be, Luke Rosiak doing fantastic reporting that just gets ignored and or smeared if 159 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,360 you're not also having some people say, we appreciate this, this is in 160 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,360 the public interest, and this is exactly what journalism is supposed to be. 161 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,519 We have to fix the incentive structure. And that's the way I saw this 162 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,720 as a step in the right direction. There. Yeah, it was great. 163 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,679 I love it, you know, the Krimber Lab, it was good. 164 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,080 The spotlight was in my face the whole night. I'm so sorry that 165 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,159 happened to you. I forgive you. I mean, the people needed to 166 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,600 see me, they had to see you and your beautiful wife, of course, 167 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:03,799 but the reason I thought it would make a little sense for us to 168 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,360 talk about this on the podcast is because it's been pretty splashy today. Tyebe 169 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,960 wrote a couple of pieces on his substack that he blasted out this morning and 170 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:16,639 wrote multiple pieces. He published his remarks, which were excellent. He talked 171 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:18,879 about how journalism used to be a trade, and you know, journalists used 172 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:26,320 to be the type of people who got the perspective of cops and construction workers 173 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,159 and like everyday people instead of being elites who thought it was your job to 174 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,320 kind of look down your nose at those people and protect them from themselves or 175 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,039 protect the country from them. It was just it was a great speech. 176 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,600 It was an excellent speech. Yeah, we thought it was over when he 177 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,120 thanked everyone, and it turned out he hadn't actually started the speech yet, 178 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,279 so he got two standing ovations too. Yeah. At first I was like, 179 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,600 we're still going in and his dad was there. It was awesome, 180 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,000 But it was the second part I really liked it. Really. It's definitely 181 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,919 worth going to subsac to read those remarks. Yeah, so Chris and I 182 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,320 just wanted to give everyone a little insight into how that process went down, 183 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,240 what we were thinking as it came up and as we were planning it over 184 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,080 the course of the last six or so months. So Chris, thank you 185 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,919 for being a part of it and for being willing to talk to it. 186 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:16,639 Hoor Hey, y'all, this is Sarah from the Sarah Carter Show. Thanks 187 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,600 for listening to the Federalist or Radio hour. We all have a heartfelt reason 188 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,200 to support our blood pressure. 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Molly was the first report, Great, Molly 205 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,879 Hemingway was the first report yesterday is that it looked as the Senate Republican leadership 206 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:56,200 was about to mount an attack on Tommy Taberville. Absolute cowards, So fir's 207 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:03,120 we'll tell us more. Tommy Ville has sided correctly that the Department of Defense 208 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,960 ought not to be spending American tax dollars illegally to pay for abortions, travel 209 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:15,840 for abortions for its troops. Bold stands, Yeah, it's illegal. It's 210 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,000 like patently, you're not allowed to use public funds for abortion, and they're 211 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,279 doing it. They don't care, not even not even never mind sex changes 212 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:26,360 for the troops, which apparently are essential to military readiness. I mean, 213 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:30,879 if I go to see if you're if you if a guy in your unit 214 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:35,279 comes to you and says, hey, I need to castrate myself and I 215 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,320 need the military to buy me some breasts. Like I'm much that guy out 216 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:39,960 of there. I mean, that guy's going to shoot me at some point, 217 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:43,720 right, he's kind of crazy, but anyways, he's not even focused 218 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,240 on that. Timberville just says he can't pay for abortions. You can't you 219 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:50,360 can't pay to travel for people to travel to these abortions. And because his 220 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:54,799 hold on the Senate has just been I'm not going to help you get unanimous 221 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,279 consent to pass all these different flag officers. The military has a lot of 222 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,039 flag officers. If you walk around the Pentagon, I mean, colonels are 223 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:06,440 basically paper boys. I just love the idea of you walking around the Pentagon 224 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,639 like you've got tennis shoes on and you're just walking around the Pentagon observing the 225 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:15,080 dress shoes. So they actually have to have votes. The Senate has to 226 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,159 vote. They can easily confirm these guys, but they've refused to and the 227 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:26,399 military has refused to back off of their abortion policy. And for some reason, 228 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:30,600 despite the fact that they instituted a new policy that is illegal, and 229 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:33,200 the fact that the Senate can actually vote on these things and pass it. 230 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:40,879 Everyone's blaming Tommy for for how dare you you're attacking military readiness? How can 231 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:45,480 we fight a war with Russia and China and Hamas today if we don't have 232 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,000 more flag officers in the military. Didn't really help us in the last couple 233 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,799 of wars. But they're blaming him as opposed taking a vote. And Republicans 234 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:59,080 have been like Republicans, most Republicans really don't care about abortion. They have 235 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,240 more scorn for the Republican voters. So future about Republican leadership elected Republicans, 236 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,039 Yeah, most elected Republicans don't because most Republican voters do. Yeah, most 237 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,599 Republican voters do. And most Republican senators really just care about getting more money 238 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,759 to the military and whatever other projects. So they've been quietly grumbling in the 239 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,200 sidelines. Well, Tarbarville has just said, no, you have to you 240 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,880 have to hold a vote on this, although sometimes it seeped into the public, 241 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,680 which was Mitch McConnell in the past. So Turberville started this in March 242 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,000 because it was a post Dobbs policy that Lloyd Austin and the Pentagon said, 243 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:37,160 we will pay for your travel to get abortions if that comes up. And 244 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Turberville instituted this hole or started blocking unimous consent back in March. So this 245 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,839 has been going on for a long time. And if I'm not mistaken a 246 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,200 couple of times, Tillis McConnell basically Senate Republican leadership which is very, very 247 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,440 McConnell influenced. So if you're not hearing from Mitch McConnell, but you're hearing 248 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,559 from John Thune or Tom Tillis, you know you're really hearing from Mitch McConnell. 249 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,720 They have grumbled publicly, right Chris, they have was the first move 250 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,000 they had that mally broke, where they all came out and just publicly lambasting 251 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:17,960 Tommy Tumberville for his stance for standing up for unborn children, for standing up 252 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,920 to a completely corrupt Pentagon, like deeply corrupt Pentagon, standing up to the 253 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,759 politics of death and the culture of death that surrounds the Democratic Party and Progressiviism 254 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:33,680 in general, and not backing down. They came out of him and attacked 255 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,640 him. I said, he's portraying his country, he's doing damage to our 256 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,480 defense. How could he possibly live with himself? And he didn't back down. 257 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,039 I mean when you when you it's Lloyd Austin versus him, And if 258 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:47,160 you want to take a I understand what kind of guy Lloyd Austin is. 259 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:56,160 Look up on Yahoo images Lloyd Austin, Philippines and you'll see this absolute clown 260 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:03,839 parading with a mask and a vice. Are like like your town's eccentric librarian. 261 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:08,240 You're like the weirdest neighbor you had during COVID. Eccentric librarian is redundant, 262 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,799 like the baddiest liberal white woman you've ever met. And this is like 263 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:21,440 Socretary of Defense is a stupid clown. And here's the deal. If this 264 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:25,759 is really impacting military readiness. By the way, the other senator from Alabama 265 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,640 pushed the Pentagon on this earlier this week and said, do you have any 266 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,119 data that says that paying for abortions is essential military idness? They have none. 267 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:40,000 It's just it's just a progressive shibboleth. It's like central to them. 268 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,720 It's like Holy Comedian to them. And then they have had months of complaining 269 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,559 and attacking Tubberville as anti American, anti patriotic, anti military, to anti 270 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:55,039 troops to prove that, and they have not provided a shred of evidence that 271 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,880 it's essential to military readiness since March. It's just a dumb idea it's ready. 272 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,759 And if it's so, if the military truly is hobbled by this great 273 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:14,279 change the new policy, if the military is in an existential crisis, stop 274 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,359 pain for troop abortions. Of course this seems it seems so obvious to me. 275 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,079 But uh so, that's that's what makes it just bs. And that's 276 00:20:22,079 --> 00:20:29,359 another thing that Tumbraville is showing that all these cowards stand Sullivan, Jony Ernst, 277 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,440 Who's who's gosh, it's just I've never heard an impressive thing ever said 278 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:40,119 by that woman. Not once I disagree with them, but she is the 279 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:44,319 she is the she was great on latter girl. She's a poster girl of 280 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Republican Senate mediocrity who releases an ad every six years of oh I cast right 281 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:52,160 pigs, I deal with the swamp, and then comes here and attacks people 282 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,720 like who actually have a shred of decency, like Tommy Tubervillian says, you're 283 00:20:56,759 --> 00:21:02,440 betraying our military she is an she fought for a lot of labelague information, 284 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:07,960 right, a lot of faucy stuff, right, okay, but just an 285 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:15,200 awful senator. But Tommy Teverbel's exposing how many awful senators there are because it 286 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,000 turns out that one man can make this impact. This is something that Jim 287 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,400 de Mint studied well. So something that Jesse Helms studied well. With Jesse 288 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Helms is to do this with with confirmation, He's like, Nope, we're 289 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,599 not going to do that. I'm not going to allow for the animus votes. 290 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,279 And it would be over different things like I want the legal trade of 291 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 gold bars to be reinstituted, which was illegal for a time in America and 292 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:41,599 is now if you watch Fox Notices Now Legal the or listen to this podcast. 293 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,279 The ability of senators to they always go back and say, whoa, 294 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:47,400 we need the majority to do this or that, and it's like, now 295 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,039 you just need to go to work. And by the way, Severl's hole 296 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,359 does is he forces these professional corrupt fundraisers to go to work if they want 297 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,920 to. If they want to confirm new flag officer tomorrow or today, they 298 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,960 could show up and vote and they refuse. So the Pentagon refuses to stop 299 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,319 a boarding babies and says it's going to die without it. The Senate refuses 300 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,200 to go to work and says the military is going to die without it. 301 00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:18,039 All Senator Tubliville is doing is saying you, I won't yield if you, 302 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,440 by the way, if you want this to be legal, change the law. 303 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:26,119 And how shocking. I'm personally shocked that Senator Tuberville's been so I know, 304 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,519 admitted to this. I just reny ran for office. There was like 305 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,240 great celebrity coach runs for office, you know, put another trophy on the 306 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,839 rack, Like a lot of Republicans wealthy office at the end of their career 307 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,119 to put like so they can because it's weird to be successful in business and 308 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,359 commission an oil painting of yourself like above your fireplace. But once you're a 309 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,519 senator, it's totally standard. I really think that's half the reason why most 310 00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:49,440 people run for office and the GOP. They do not run for office to 311 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 fight the Pentagon on abortion, you get me, that is for sure. 312 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,680 And Democrats run for office to change the world and change the country and are 313 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,400 willing to give up their jobs and give up everything in order to do it. 314 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,759 They fight for mission of broadly speaking, or if you're Bob Menendez, 315 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,160 they do run for office to trade those gold bars that Jesse Helms made, 316 00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:08,759 don't. I mean, as an outsider, it's difficult to judge the culture 317 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:14,640 of New Jersey. It's different people, it's a different species island New Jersey. 318 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,599 Staten Island, Yeah, these are these are tough places. There's a 319 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,079 great skating rink that serves booze in Staten Island. I'm glad to hear that 320 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,559 you would not like it, But tuber Villain, I had to skate. 321 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,400 It's not like bicycling. You never forget had a bicycle. You do forget 322 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,319 how to skate. I used to skate all the time as a kid. 323 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,839 I got on skates in the National Mall and I was just gripping to the 324 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,440 sideways when when a couple of winners ago, Oh no, yeah, it 325 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,039 wasn't great, Like kids are slimming into me. Oh I mean, I 326 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,920 meant a roller rink. You're talking about ice skating. Yeah, ice skating. 327 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Oh I don't like that. I mean I like ice skating. I 328 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:55,000 don't like the idea of you skating on that loved roller blade there's this band 329 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:56,839 that its name is two offensive to say in the on the podcast, far 330 00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:00,240 too offensive, really two offensive to say during any time. And he doesn't 331 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,839 have a bunch of songs. Most of their songs very short, very loud, 332 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,440 and the names of the song is just an insult. And one of 333 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,519 them is you Roara Blade. That's ver so good. So back to Tuberville. 334 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:15,480 Yeah, you know, when I've talked to people who have some knowledge 335 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,039 of his thoughts on this, it's been that like there he's actually really convinced, 336 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,519 and like, actually he's not doing this for any reason other than that 337 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:29,119 he thinks this is absolutely insane, and you know, it's it's been a 338 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:34,200 rallying point for the conservative movement to see Taberville standing fast against McConnell at a 339 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,039 time when the country is broadly sick of McConnell's leadership, but especially your average 340 00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:41,559 Republican voter not happy with McConnell's leadership probably hasn't been for a long time, 341 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,759 but a lot of this is spilling out into the public. So Molly reported 342 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,759 yesterday around three point thirty pm. I'm healing. I'm hearing McConnell's deputies and 343 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,200 allies, including Lindsay Graham, Jony Earnst, Todd Young, and Dan Sullivan 344 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:57,440 told colleagues today they're planning an attack on Tommy Turberville's hold on military promotions, 345 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,920 modeled after a Elizabeth Warren's attack a few months ago. And then Molly says, 346 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,839 the plan to a goat. Sometimes sometimes it slips, you get the 347 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,519 Midwestern accent. I could read, I could read the rest of this in 348 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:17,920 my Wisconsin accent, but I will use the plan to run interference for Biden 349 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,960 admin. And it's woke. Pentagon is reportedly scheduled for six pm tonight. 350 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:27,720 Just FYI, And that's what happened. That's exactly what happened. It's pretty 351 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,839 amazing that, you know, despite the obvious tea leaves, if you're reading 352 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:37,279 the tea leaves and you understand Republican voters, you understand the mood of the 353 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,960 country, and you understand the policy. This is insane To attack your own 354 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,640 senator, this is insane. Why do Republicans feel like it's on them to 355 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,720 do it either? Yeah, Sarah and I were talking about this with Speaker 356 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:56,279 Johnson. You know, so far has been very diplomatic, maybe more than 357 00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:02,480 I would like, but the question is whether the job of Speaker of the 358 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,680 House is tactical or ideological, and sometimes people confuse it. I mean, 359 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,480 it's definitely tactics is the main part of minority leader, a majority leader speaker. 360 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240 You have to move, you have to herd cats, to use an 361 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:19,960 awful cliche, you have to get disparate parts of your party to work together. 362 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:25,640 You have to raise money. But ideology does play a pretty central role 363 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,920 at the end of the day. I mean, if people like rich McConnell 364 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,680 would shut down the government and burn it down for Ukraine for funds for Ukraine, 365 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,400 because even though job is tactics, that's something he cares about. Yeah, 366 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,799 he cares about judicial appointments, so he will he will take every flaming 367 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,559 catapult blast that is shot at him in order to get that judicial nominee across. 368 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,559 He doesn't care about abortion, which is great for the Supreme Court. 369 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,599 Yeah, he doesn't care about abortion. He doesn't care about the border on 370 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,759 fatanyl desks. He doesn't care about like if he if those were his core 371 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:04,599 things and that's what he would burn down the government over. Doesn't he doesn't 372 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,319 care about any of the things like the base really cares about he cares about 373 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,240 them to the extent that they affect his power, and that they affect not 374 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,799 just his power, but Republican power. And tell me if you think differently, 375 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,799 But I think his worldview is about Republicans holding power, not what Republicans 376 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:22,319 are or what they should be, but that they would happen, not even 377 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,200 really what they often do with that power. Exactly. So he will talk 378 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,599 about life, and he will talk about the border to the extent that it 379 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,000 affects Republicans' ability to cling to power. But what Republicans do with that power, 380 00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:38,759 what they want to do with that power, what none of that is 381 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,839 of consequence. You you see what these guys always stand for when they when 382 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,960 they're willing to attack Senator Tubberville over this, over one man's standing up against 383 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,920 the abortion cult that's taken over the Department of Defense. And they always say, 384 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,920 oh, we just need to win elections, which is by the way, 385 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Democrats like they say that, but they never their supporters just come back 386 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,160 from two years or four years, we'll get them next time. They're like, 387 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,680 go out act the activists make a difference in your communities. Republicans don't 388 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:14,480 act like that. But if any of these things were central. If Mitch 389 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:18,079 McConnell cared about what the people who put them in office care about, then 390 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,240 the Republicans were just governed completely different. I mean, it's kind of shocking 391 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,519 to me. I guess they picked the fight over the last shutdown fight, 392 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,319 which we're not going to have again this year, over the border. But 393 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,799 why are there so many Republicans climbing over each other to fund a government that's 394 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:40,039 actively investigating their dominee for president. Why are Republicans climbing over each other to 395 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:45,759 make sure we get more funding to go to colleges and universities producing like ally 396 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:51,640 ship with hamas. Why are they so desperate to just hand out wins? 397 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,160 Why are they? I mean, the Senate? The military does not run 398 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,839 this country yet, the Senate, I don't think. I actually don't even 399 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,240 know if the modern military could. I mean, it's a little fancy these 400 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:08,720 days, but the military doesn't get the boss around the US Senate, the 401 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:14,240 synecus, the boss around the US military. Why are these guys so desperate 402 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,559 to carry water? It's just it's worth reading about at the Federalist, It's 403 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,680 worth reading about even at Politico. Last night was really just We've had a 404 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,079 lot of these moments lately, laid bare exactly what Republican senators care about. 405 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,799 The Watch Doot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 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So this is from Andrew does ad Area of punch Bowl. 414 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,359 He's around nine twenty five pm, he said, Senator Senator Sullivan still 415 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,319 going after Tuberville three hours in quote, Shejin Ping is loving this, so 416 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,599 is putin how dumb can we be? Man? Sullivan getting angrier as Tuberville 417 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,079 continues to object. He says, the Chinese and the Russians are watching this 418 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,440 and thinking, gosh I can't believe how dumb these guys are. No, 419 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:32,559 they're looking at the Pentagon policy paying for abortions despite the law, so this 420 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,960 extra legal policy that is against the wishes of most of the country and thinking, 421 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,119 these guys take these and these guys take their moral cues from Russia and 422 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,680 China. I know, that's a great point. They're thinking, like, 423 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,839 what was with Alaska? A great question? Let's ask John. They send 424 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,119 us just an awful senator and they keep them there for forty years or her 425 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:59,200 there and they just they never unelect them like you'd think that you'd get I 426 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,039 got occasional politician out of Alaska. We get Kim Strassel, who is the 427 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,359 spectacular MC of the Doubt Prizes, and John Daniel Davidson, the spectacular senior 428 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,039 Editor's kind of wild. Yeah, I don't know, but this is like 429 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:17,000 the Chinese and the Russians are looking at the United States and like they are 430 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,039 so obsessed with woke policies that, like we talked about earlier, it is 431 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:26,559 hampering all of their institutions. They're not looking at the people who are fighting 432 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400 against the woke policies and saying like, oh, those guys are real idiots. 433 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,799 They're looking at the moron elites who don't believe anything and are foisting these 434 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:42,599 extremely divisive and often factually incorrect, often illegal or actual legal policies, and 435 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,400 they're thinking, what the like, that's insane, that's insane, Like, 436 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,920 oh, you have Rachel Levine. That's what they're laughing at. Rachel Levine 437 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:59,599 is what they're laughing at. Ugh, absolutely grotesque. Okay, but no, 438 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,640 I I think it was just like Molly's reporting was really great that she 439 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,720 got that before it happened, because they did it anyway, like you could 440 00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:15,920 see how idiotic this looked. But you know, the media takes a completely 441 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,319 crazy framework, puts a completely crazy framework on this, Like they act like 442 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:28,160 Tuberville is some sort of crazy extremist when he's actually fighting something extra legal that's 443 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,680 in and of itself crazy, but he's of course he's the sort of rube 444 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:36,880 extremist. Yeah, so look at the situation, Look at what one man 445 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,680 of courage and substance is able to do with his power as one of the 446 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,880 one hundred most powerful people on the planet, and then look at those people 447 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880 who stand against him, and it's just going to give you a pretty clear 448 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,720 idea, both a black pill and a red pill. For where we stand 449 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,759 and talk about incentive structures, like what incentive do Republican politicians have? I 450 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,720 mean, like, you'll get the support of the Heritage Foundation and we'll talk 451 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,680 about it like this conservative journalist will be like, that's awesome and needs to 452 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680 happen. But you're just going to be attacked by the media, attacked by 453 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,640 leadership to get money from coke. You're not going to get money from coke. 454 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,720 Your voters might like it, but your voters also might be taking You 455 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,920 know, if you're in a state wide election, you might have a lot 456 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960 of voters who are reading so called mainstream media and thinking, oh wow, 457 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,279 Tommy Tarberville is an extremist rube who wants to hamper troop readiness. Because you 458 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,799 don't spend your whole life reading media, thankfully, and it's not your job 459 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,759 to sift through these bs media reports. So I mean, what incentive do 460 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,599 you have? You don't have one. Yeah, you take a lot of 461 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,279 pain, you don't get a lot of backing. The money's against you, 462 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,319 the lead opinions against you. You knock a couple of years off of purgatory 463 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,400 unless than your chance of going to hell? Why not just killing babies in 464 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,000 return for elate accolades. What is this purgatory you speak of it. It's 465 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,519 at a bar on Capitol Hill. I'm doubtful. I'd be sweet consider you 466 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,920 how much time I'm destined for there, but it's probably. I don't think 467 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,799 they serve alcohol, and if they do, it's warm. Christopher Bedford, 468 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,400 Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society, thank you so much. Good 469 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,559 to be here. You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 470 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,360 I'm Emily Dashinsky, Culture editor here at the Federalists. We'll be back 471 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:21,079 soon with more. Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame.