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I'm joined today because it's Thursday, after all, by Christopher Bedford,
Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society. Talk about a couple of different
things. The first thing, though, Chris, I don't know if we've
actually mentioned this on the podcast, but we have to mention it today because
the first annual Dow Prize award was given last night by the National Journalism Center,
which my part time job is being the director of the National Journalism Center,
but both of us are on njc's board of governors. You've been involved
for years, longer than I have with NJC, and NJC launched this prize
last night. Gave the first award one hundred thousand dollars to the Twitter Files
team, Matt Taibi, Barry Weiss, Michael Schellenberger, two finalist awards of
ten thousand dollars each were given to Aaron Sibarium of the Washington Freebeacon and then
also to the duo Joseph Simonson and Andrew Kerr of the Washington Freebeacon. The
Freebeacon got a finalist to sweep in there, but as members of the board,
we were tasked with reading some eight hundred pages of reporting, including the
excellent work of Margo Cleveland here at The Federalist, and grading these things on
a five scale, a five point scale in three different categories, and then
voting, then doing another round of voting, and the winners last night were
the result of that process. The goal of the award is it came from
Gabe Kaminski, who, when he was interning at The Federalist and then at
the Day Wire, had just been doing such fantastic work. He graduated from
college, went on to the Daily Caller and was doing more fantastic work.
And we thought to ourselves, we have to recognize the sort of unsung heroes
of American journalism who are being smeared by other journalists and who are getting basically
no prestige even though they deserve it. They're doing real reporting that's extremely detailed
and thorough compelling, and they deserve some recognition, but instead they get smeared
and attacked, and bad reporting wins awards. Good reporting gets ignored or attacked,
And so we gave Gabe an alumni award. Some supporters saw that,
Dalfang and Angela who they saw that at the dinner when we announced it last
year, and they were like, we got to sort of scale this up,
and they gave an amazing donation to NJC and to Young America's Foundation to
turn that into one hundred thousand dollars annual award every year, and last night
was the first one. Matt Tayby has been so gracious and humbled, so
have Barry and Michael by their in their acceptance. Matt wrote a great piece
about it this morning. It's just been kind of a whirlwind of a couple
of days and actually the last six months or so. It was planned on
a really short time scale. What did you think, Chris, of how
last night went? It was excellent, good congratulations, good good works all
of us. It really showed. It was great that it was at the
Press Club, Yes, right down down at the National Press Club believes the
beast. We're right next to Old Evit Grill. Oh, that makes a
very tall martini. Shelley's back room where everyone went afterwards, that's for sure,
except for you. You went to Old Abbott. I hate Shelley's packer.
I do too. I don't have the dry cleaning budget for that.
No. I actually I had a really busy daby previously, so I was
writing out the invocation at Old Ebit Grill and they made our drinks and Sarah
went to cheers. But they were so filled that it was truly a Catholic
event in that there was a gin soaked prayer and there was nothing I could
do to stop it. I was like, I hope no one spells this.
Yeah. Chris gave actually a really beautiful prayer to start the evening.
He started in Latin, started and ended, it's important. You have to
remind everyone where we come from. Most people don't know a lotin anymore,
but the devil still does. It was incredible. It was you know,
it's important. There's a there's the Twitter and Politico and all these different aggregators,
CNN, MSNBC. There despite a lot of backbuding, and they largely
are very supportive of each other. We have a strong ecosystem that pushes each
other's stories. The Publicsher Prize goes out there and gives awards for like I
think if you go to the last ten years of the Publisher Prize, you'd
probably find a couple which were just completely false narratives. I mean, Russia
collusion. And that's part of the genesis of this. As we were talking
as a board about why this was important, Russia collusion, I think the
sixteen nineteen project Appelitzer as well. Yeah, I mean, it's just false
stuff. They back each other up. They I mean, much of America's
elite right now. You know, you can go to Harvard and study the
classics without actually learning ancient Greek. They don't teach anymore. It's it's it's
all about accreditation, and they've got a very phenomenal and extremely efficient accreditation system
where if you try to you know, if you line up a Yale or
a Princeton, or a Harvard graduate now or a Publicer Prize winning journalist now
today against a one of those graduates of one of those institutions fifty sixty,
seventy years ago, eighty years ago, or a winner one of the Publisher
Prize forty years ago. There's no comparison in the intelligence and the skill and
the professionalism and the knowledge that these people have. But they still have that
piece of paper, they have that credit, and you know, the rights
not that great at it. It's a smaller ecosystem. And despite the fact
that there's I think there's plenty of rum out there actually like how well the
Federals works. The people a lot of places don't like. If you're like,
hey, what do you think about your fellows at conservative media, they'll
say the Daily Wire liberals or or the Daily Callers porn or just whatever.
They go at each other and they backbite. Nothing wrong with saying the Daily
Callers porn. It used to be. They kind of cucked on that.
I loved the Cadupton content. I clicked on every article. We got an
email once from me priest saying with a string grab of the Daily Callers homepage
that said, Hey, I know that you guys have to make a living,
but my recommended articles are all these slide shows and it's just I just
come here for news. What are you doing? And I had writing back
that's recommended articles were correlated to his browsing history. You ones actually told me,
and this is stuck with me for a number of reasons. I always
clicked on like the Real Housewives slide shows of the Kardashian slide shows, and
you once told me, this is probably more than five years ago, that
the highest click rate on those were among women, Like, actually those were
not for men. Those were for women. At one point they certainly were.
We had a really funny entertainment editor, Taylor Bigler, whose captions were
just perfect. I'm sure they say the internet's forever, but actually the internet
breaks, like when website's five years old if you don't constantly update, Like
none of the pictures work. The amount of some of this is good,
by the way, the amount of videos that we made in the office that
are like just they're on Gray Stoffward's hard drive, but they're no longer accessible
on the internet. But the point is to get back to the original.
And they supported excellent reporting. Yeah they did. And you know, we
used to run polls at the daily collar of our readers and they would say,
like the number one thing that they care about is like taxation, regulation
and corruption and government, and the last thing they care about his slides shows,
but I saw what they clicked. Yeah, and like, we put
weeks into a story and it would just would get one twentieth the clicks of
the Gate Up slide show. But it wasn't important anyways. To get back
to it is to have that the Doubt Prize is not a ten thousand dollars
prize or a twenty thousand dollars prize. It was its first year ever.
People hadn't heard of it. They knew it was the National Journalism Center,
Stan Evans and all that, But to have so many applicants, I was
blown away by the number of applicants, the quality of applicants, the broad
swath of applicants, the and then also by the way when I signed up
for this board position, this unpaid board position, it did not come with
forty hours of reading. So I think we're going to have to put a
stake dinner on the calendar at on JC steak dinner. I'm going to do
better. First, I'm going to do better. I'll fill you in on
it. But yeah, so, like the Daily Caller is such a good
example, and I honestly wish that you know at least five different of the
submissions could have won the award last night, and I think the benefit of
having this. It was painful to pick some of them. I was like,
that's not that great of the submission. But some of them were just
incredible work. It hurt, you know. So, Gabe Kaminski did a
fantastic series on the Global Disinform Index with The Washington Examiner, and it is
so competitive. Margo's work was so competitive. It's just fantastic submissions. Ryan
Grimm had this amazing long essay called The Elephant in the Zoom that was this
thoroughly reported dive into how progressive nonprofits were basically screwing themselves with wokeness, like
wokeness was really paralyzing progressionated him very highly because that was such an interesting story
and it was the first glimmer of light in the breaking of the woke stranglehold.
Now, not one of those one of those people who's like, oh,
it's a pendiclum it goes back and forth, like every time it goes
back, it just leaves behind cartage and got it infrastructure they'll never be fixed.
But it is started like the actual the fever of it, like early
French Revolution, just massacres in the streets. Fever is starting to break.
And the first hint of that was that it's not working. It's paralyzing nonprofits.
And I've heard for years from friends in the corporate world it's paralyzing corporations.
And that's what Aaron Sabarium's winning series touched on. Yeah, right,
yeah, I mean it just again, like to go back to The Daily
Caller. They had some great submissions too. They had Jenny Tair's Border reporting,
which she caught the administration basically stonewalling on important information about what was happening
at the border. There were just so many great submissions, and The Caller
is just a great example also of an institution where you have reporting that is
higher caliber. For years, they've been doing this reporting that is a higher
caliber than so many of the so called mainstream news outlets that are competitive for
Pulitzer prizes. Luke Rosiak of The Daily Wire did a story with Kenny Chu
that was really competitive also, and he came out of The Daily Caller.
He came out of the early days of The Daily Caller when Tucker and Neil
and you were saying, we need to do conservative reporting, we need to
have a shoe leather journalism from the right, and Luke is a great example
of somebody who if he were a liberal, if he were a centrist,
someone who purported to be a centrist but was actually just an open liberal,
he would be fed it all over town. And you know, that's not
to say that journalists should do it for the awards, should do it for
the prestige, should do it to go to black tie dinners, But it
is to say the incentive structure is broken. What incentive do you have to
be, Luke Rosiak doing fantastic reporting that just gets ignored and or smeared if
you're not also having some people say, we appreciate this, this is in
the public interest, and this is exactly what journalism is supposed to be.
We have to fix the incentive structure. And that's the way I saw this
as a step in the right direction. There. Yeah, it was great.
I love it, you know, the Krimber Lab, it was good.
The spotlight was in my face the whole night. I'm so sorry that
happened to you. I forgive you. I mean, the people needed to
see me, they had to see you and your beautiful wife, of course,
but the reason I thought it would make a little sense for us to
talk about this on the podcast is because it's been pretty splashy today. Tyebe
wrote a couple of pieces on his substack that he blasted out this morning and
wrote multiple pieces. He published his remarks, which were excellent. He talked
about how journalism used to be a trade, and you know, journalists used
to be the type of people who got the perspective of cops and construction workers
and like everyday people instead of being elites who thought it was your job to
kind of look down your nose at those people and protect them from themselves or
protect the country from them. It was just it was a great speech.
It was an excellent speech. Yeah, we thought it was over when he
thanked everyone, and it turned out he hadn't actually started the speech yet,
so he got two standing ovations too. Yeah. At first I was like,
we're still going in and his dad was there. It was awesome,
But it was the second part I really liked it. Really. It's definitely
worth going to subsac to read those remarks. Yeah, so Chris and I
just wanted to give everyone a little insight into how that process went down,
what we were thinking as it came up and as we were planning it over
the course of the last six or so months. So Chris, thank you
for being a part of it and for being willing to talk to it.
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wanted to talk about something. Molly was the first report, Great, Molly
Hemingway was the first report yesterday is that it looked as the Senate Republican leadership
was about to mount an attack on Tommy Taberville. Absolute cowards, So fir's
we'll tell us more. Tommy Ville has sided correctly that the Department of Defense
ought not to be spending American tax dollars illegally to pay for abortions, travel
for abortions for its troops. Bold stands, Yeah, it's illegal. It's
like patently, you're not allowed to use public funds for abortion, and they're
doing it. They don't care, not even not even never mind sex changes
for the troops, which apparently are essential to military readiness. I mean,
if I go to see if you're if you if a guy in your unit
comes to you and says, hey, I need to castrate myself and I
need the military to buy me some breasts. Like I'm much that guy out
of there. I mean, that guy's going to shoot me at some point,
right, he's kind of crazy, but anyways, he's not even focused
on that. Timberville just says he can't pay for abortions. You can't you
can't pay to travel for people to travel to these abortions. And because his
hold on the Senate has just been I'm not going to help you get unanimous
consent to pass all these different flag officers. The military has a lot of
flag officers. If you walk around the Pentagon, I mean, colonels are
basically paper boys. I just love the idea of you walking around the Pentagon
like you've got tennis shoes on and you're just walking around the Pentagon observing the
dress shoes. So they actually have to have votes. The Senate has to
vote. They can easily confirm these guys, but they've refused to and the
military has refused to back off of their abortion policy. And for some reason,
despite the fact that they instituted a new policy that is illegal, and
the fact that the Senate can actually vote on these things and pass it.
Everyone's blaming Tommy for for how dare you you're attacking military readiness? How can
we fight a war with Russia and China and Hamas today if we don't have
more flag officers in the military. Didn't really help us in the last couple
of wars. But they're blaming him as opposed taking a vote. And Republicans
have been like Republicans, most Republicans really don't care about abortion. They have
more scorn for the Republican voters. So future about Republican leadership elected Republicans,
Yeah, most elected Republicans don't because most Republican voters do. Yeah, most
Republican voters do. And most Republican senators really just care about getting more money
to the military and whatever other projects. So they've been quietly grumbling in the
sidelines. Well, Tarbarville has just said, no, you have to you
have to hold a vote on this, although sometimes it seeped into the public,
which was Mitch McConnell in the past. So Turberville started this in March
because it was a post Dobbs policy that Lloyd Austin and the Pentagon said,
we will pay for your travel to get abortions if that comes up. And
Turberville instituted this hole or started blocking unimous consent back in March. So this
has been going on for a long time. And if I'm not mistaken a
couple of times, Tillis McConnell basically Senate Republican leadership which is very, very
McConnell influenced. So if you're not hearing from Mitch McConnell, but you're hearing
from John Thune or Tom Tillis, you know you're really hearing from Mitch McConnell.
They have grumbled publicly, right Chris, they have was the first move
they had that mally broke, where they all came out and just publicly lambasting
Tommy Tumberville for his stance for standing up for unborn children, for standing up
to a completely corrupt Pentagon, like deeply corrupt Pentagon, standing up to the
politics of death and the culture of death that surrounds the Democratic Party and Progressiviism
in general, and not backing down. They came out of him and attacked
him. I said, he's portraying his country, he's doing damage to our
defense. How could he possibly live with himself? And he didn't back down.
I mean when you when you it's Lloyd Austin versus him, And if
you want to take a I understand what kind of guy Lloyd Austin is.
Look up on Yahoo images Lloyd Austin, Philippines and you'll see this absolute clown
parading with a mask and a vice. Are like like your town's eccentric librarian.
You're like the weirdest neighbor you had during COVID. Eccentric librarian is redundant,
like the baddiest liberal white woman you've ever met. And this is like
Socretary of Defense is a stupid clown. And here's the deal. If this
is really impacting military readiness. By the way, the other senator from Alabama
pushed the Pentagon on this earlier this week and said, do you have any
data that says that paying for abortions is essential military idness? They have none.
It's just it's just a progressive shibboleth. It's like central to them.
It's like Holy Comedian to them. And then they have had months of complaining
and attacking Tubberville as anti American, anti patriotic, anti military, to anti
troops to prove that, and they have not provided a shred of evidence that
it's essential to military readiness since March. It's just a dumb idea it's ready.
And if it's so, if the military truly is hobbled by this great
change the new policy, if the military is in an existential crisis, stop
pain for troop abortions. Of course this seems it seems so obvious to me.
But uh so, that's that's what makes it just bs. And that's
another thing that Tumbraville is showing that all these cowards stand Sullivan, Jony Ernst,
Who's who's gosh, it's just I've never heard an impressive thing ever said
by that woman. Not once I disagree with them, but she is the
she is the she was great on latter girl. She's a poster girl of
Republican Senate mediocrity who releases an ad every six years of oh I cast right
pigs, I deal with the swamp, and then comes here and attacks people
like who actually have a shred of decency, like Tommy Tubervillian says, you're
betraying our military she is an she fought for a lot of labelague information,
right, a lot of faucy stuff, right, okay, but just an
awful senator. But Tommy Teverbel's exposing how many awful senators there are because it
turns out that one man can make this impact. This is something that Jim
de Mint studied well. So something that Jesse Helms studied well. With Jesse
Helms is to do this with with confirmation, He's like, Nope, we're
not going to do that. I'm not going to allow for the animus votes.
And it would be over different things like I want the legal trade of
gold bars to be reinstituted, which was illegal for a time in America and
is now if you watch Fox Notices Now Legal the or listen to this podcast.
The ability of senators to they always go back and say, whoa,
we need the majority to do this or that, and it's like, now
you just need to go to work. And by the way, Severl's hole
does is he forces these professional corrupt fundraisers to go to work if they want
to. If they want to confirm new flag officer tomorrow or today, they
could show up and vote and they refuse. So the Pentagon refuses to stop
a boarding babies and says it's going to die without it. The Senate refuses
to go to work and says the military is going to die without it.
All Senator Tubliville is doing is saying you, I won't yield if you,
by the way, if you want this to be legal, change the law.
And how shocking. I'm personally shocked that Senator Tuberville's been so I know,
admitted to this. I just reny ran for office. There was like
great celebrity coach runs for office, you know, put another trophy on the
rack, Like a lot of Republicans wealthy office at the end of their career
to put like so they can because it's weird to be successful in business and
commission an oil painting of yourself like above your fireplace. But once you're a
senator, it's totally standard. I really think that's half the reason why most
people run for office and the GOP. They do not run for office to
fight the Pentagon on abortion, you get me, that is for sure.
And Democrats run for office to change the world and change the country and are
willing to give up their jobs and give up everything in order to do it.
They fight for mission of broadly speaking, or if you're Bob Menendez,
they do run for office to trade those gold bars that Jesse Helms made,
don't. I mean, as an outsider, it's difficult to judge the culture
of New Jersey. It's different people, it's a different species island New Jersey.
Staten Island, Yeah, these are these are tough places. There's a
great skating rink that serves booze in Staten Island. I'm glad to hear that
you would not like it, But tuber Villain, I had to skate.
It's not like bicycling. You never forget had a bicycle. You do forget
how to skate. I used to skate all the time as a kid.
I got on skates in the National Mall and I was just gripping to the
sideways when when a couple of winners ago, Oh no, yeah, it
wasn't great, Like kids are slimming into me. Oh I mean, I
meant a roller rink. You're talking about ice skating. Yeah, ice skating.
Oh I don't like that. I mean I like ice skating. I
don't like the idea of you skating on that loved roller blade there's this band
that its name is two offensive to say in the on the podcast, far
too offensive, really two offensive to say during any time. And he doesn't
have a bunch of songs. Most of their songs very short, very loud,
and the names of the song is just an insult. And one of
them is you Roara Blade. That's ver so good. So back to Tuberville.
Yeah, you know, when I've talked to people who have some knowledge
of his thoughts on this, it's been that like there he's actually really convinced,
and like, actually he's not doing this for any reason other than that
he thinks this is absolutely insane, and you know, it's it's been a
rallying point for the conservative movement to see Taberville standing fast against McConnell at a
time when the country is broadly sick of McConnell's leadership, but especially your average
Republican voter not happy with McConnell's leadership probably hasn't been for a long time,
but a lot of this is spilling out into the public. So Molly reported
yesterday around three point thirty pm. I'm healing. I'm hearing McConnell's deputies and
allies, including Lindsay Graham, Jony Earnst, Todd Young, and Dan Sullivan
told colleagues today they're planning an attack on Tommy Turberville's hold on military promotions,
modeled after a Elizabeth Warren's attack a few months ago. And then Molly says,
the plan to a goat. Sometimes sometimes it slips, you get the
Midwestern accent. I could read, I could read the rest of this in
my Wisconsin accent, but I will use the plan to run interference for Biden
admin. And it's woke. Pentagon is reportedly scheduled for six pm tonight.
Just FYI, And that's what happened. That's exactly what happened. It's pretty
amazing that, you know, despite the obvious tea leaves, if you're reading
the tea leaves and you understand Republican voters, you understand the mood of the
country, and you understand the policy. This is insane To attack your own
senator, this is insane. Why do Republicans feel like it's on them to
do it either? Yeah, Sarah and I were talking about this with Speaker
Johnson. You know, so far has been very diplomatic, maybe more than
I would like, but the question is whether the job of Speaker of the
House is tactical or ideological, and sometimes people confuse it. I mean,
it's definitely tactics is the main part of minority leader, a majority leader speaker.
You have to move, you have to herd cats, to use an
awful cliche, you have to get disparate parts of your party to work together.
You have to raise money. But ideology does play a pretty central role
at the end of the day. I mean, if people like rich McConnell
would shut down the government and burn it down for Ukraine for funds for Ukraine,
because even though job is tactics, that's something he cares about. Yeah,
he cares about judicial appointments, so he will he will take every flaming
catapult blast that is shot at him in order to get that judicial nominee across.
He doesn't care about abortion, which is great for the Supreme Court.
Yeah, he doesn't care about abortion. He doesn't care about the border on
fatanyl desks. He doesn't care about like if he if those were his core
things and that's what he would burn down the government over. Doesn't he doesn't
care about any of the things like the base really cares about he cares about
them to the extent that they affect his power, and that they affect not
just his power, but Republican power. And tell me if you think differently,
But I think his worldview is about Republicans holding power, not what Republicans
are or what they should be, but that they would happen, not even
really what they often do with that power. Exactly. So he will talk
about life, and he will talk about the border to the extent that it
affects Republicans' ability to cling to power. But what Republicans do with that power,
what they want to do with that power, what none of that is
of consequence. You you see what these guys always stand for when they when
they're willing to attack Senator Tubberville over this, over one man's standing up against
the abortion cult that's taken over the Department of Defense. And they always say,
oh, we just need to win elections, which is by the way,
Democrats like they say that, but they never their supporters just come back
from two years or four years, we'll get them next time. They're like,
go out act the activists make a difference in your communities. Republicans don't
act like that. But if any of these things were central. If Mitch
McConnell cared about what the people who put them in office care about, then
the Republicans were just governed completely different. I mean, it's kind of shocking
to me. I guess they picked the fight over the last shutdown fight,
which we're not going to have again this year, over the border. But
why are there so many Republicans climbing over each other to fund a government that's
actively investigating their dominee for president. Why are Republicans climbing over each other to
make sure we get more funding to go to colleges and universities producing like ally
ship with hamas. Why are they so desperate to just hand out wins?
Why are they? I mean, the Senate? The military does not run
this country yet, the Senate, I don't think. I actually don't even
know if the modern military could. I mean, it's a little fancy these
days, but the military doesn't get the boss around the US Senate, the
synecus, the boss around the US military. Why are these guys so desperate
to carry water? It's just it's worth reading about at the Federalist, It's
worth reading about even at Politico. Last night was really just We've had a
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get your podcasts. So this is from Andrew does ad Area of punch Bowl.
He's around nine twenty five pm, he said, Senator Senator Sullivan still
going after Tuberville three hours in quote, Shejin Ping is loving this, so
is putin how dumb can we be? Man? Sullivan getting angrier as Tuberville
continues to object. He says, the Chinese and the Russians are watching this
and thinking, gosh I can't believe how dumb these guys are. No,
they're looking at the Pentagon policy paying for abortions despite the law, so this
extra legal policy that is against the wishes of most of the country and thinking,
these guys take these and these guys take their moral cues from Russia and
China. I know, that's a great point. They're thinking, like,
what was with Alaska? A great question? Let's ask John. They send
us just an awful senator and they keep them there for forty years or her
there and they just they never unelect them like you'd think that you'd get I
got occasional politician out of Alaska. We get Kim Strassel, who is the
spectacular MC of the Doubt Prizes, and John Daniel Davidson, the spectacular senior
Editor's kind of wild. Yeah, I don't know, but this is like
the Chinese and the Russians are looking at the United States and like they are
so obsessed with woke policies that, like we talked about earlier, it is
hampering all of their institutions. They're not looking at the people who are fighting
against the woke policies and saying like, oh, those guys are real idiots.
They're looking at the moron elites who don't believe anything and are foisting these
extremely divisive and often factually incorrect, often illegal or actual legal policies, and
they're thinking, what the like, that's insane, that's insane, Like,
oh, you have Rachel Levine. That's what they're laughing at. Rachel Levine
is what they're laughing at. Ugh, absolutely grotesque. Okay, but no,
I I think it was just like Molly's reporting was really great that she
got that before it happened, because they did it anyway, like you could
see how idiotic this looked. But you know, the media takes a completely
crazy framework, puts a completely crazy framework on this, Like they act like
Tuberville is some sort of crazy extremist when he's actually fighting something extra legal that's
in and of itself crazy, but he's of course he's the sort of rube
extremist. Yeah, so look at the situation, Look at what one man
of courage and substance is able to do with his power as one of the
one hundred most powerful people on the planet, and then look at those people
who stand against him, and it's just going to give you a pretty clear
idea, both a black pill and a red pill. For where we stand
and talk about incentive structures, like what incentive do Republican politicians have? I
mean, like, you'll get the support of the Heritage Foundation and we'll talk
about it like this conservative journalist will be like, that's awesome and needs to
happen. But you're just going to be attacked by the media, attacked by
leadership to get money from coke. You're not going to get money from coke.
Your voters might like it, but your voters also might be taking You
know, if you're in a state wide election, you might have a lot
of voters who are reading so called mainstream media and thinking, oh wow,
Tommy Tarberville is an extremist rube who wants to hamper troop readiness. Because you
don't spend your whole life reading media, thankfully, and it's not your job
to sift through these bs media reports. So I mean, what incentive do
you have? You don't have one. Yeah, you take a lot of
pain, you don't get a lot of backing. The money's against you,
the lead opinions against you. You knock a couple of years off of purgatory
unless than your chance of going to hell? Why not just killing babies in
return for elate accolades. What is this purgatory you speak of it. It's
at a bar on Capitol Hill. I'm doubtful. I'd be sweet consider you
how much time I'm destined for there, but it's probably. I don't think
they serve alcohol, and if they do, it's warm. Christopher Bedford,
Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society, thank you so much. Good
to be here. You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.
I'm Emily Dashinsky, Culture editor here at the Federalists. We'll be back
soon with more. Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame.