WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:29.199 day. Now here's Nick coffee. All right, let's get it started, 3 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:33.039 Ladies and Gentlemen, Hour number two Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's here 4 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:37.840 on Sports Talk seven ninety Getting you set for the weekend. Sorry, doing 5 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.280 a little live producing, getting our guests rearranged. We had to shift some 6 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.280 things around, but that's okay. We're gonna talk to Doctor Ben's here shortly, 7 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.560 and also Jeff Greer's gonna join us to talk about the big match tomorrow 8 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.640 over there at Lynn Family Stadium. Actually are they both? Like I know 9 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.719 is Lynn Family Stadium? I know that's where Racing Lou plays. I know 10 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.759 that, but lend them and loose City were they both called? Because the 11 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.319 UFL Soccer stadium is Lyn Standa. That's it, Doctor Mark and Cindy Lynn 12 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.799 Stadium. There we go. I knew, I knew they were both basically 13 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.120 paid for or you know, sponsored by the great Lynn family, but I 14 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.560 didn't know how you know the naming of each. But so Lynn Family Stadium 15 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.719 that's where you need to be tomorrow at four o'clock for their for their big 16 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.719 match, and if you've never been to a Racing Louisville game, you can 17 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.879 get yourself a free ticket, which you know that gets you in the door. 18 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.959 You could take advantage of the two dollars happy hour beers they got before 19 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.879 the game. So again, take advantage. You wouldn't want to, you 20 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.159 know, I mean, if you don't have plans, I know it's going 21 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.159 to be hot, but you know, should be good vibes. It's a 22 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:44.799 legit I mean, it's the only legitimate, like top level professional sports team 23 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.879 we have in this town. And again, you can get in free if 24 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:49.599 you've never been before, and actually you can if you've been before, you 25 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.719 can still get a discount of ticket. So I tweeted out the link at 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.439 Twitter on my Twitter at the card Connect, and all you have to do 27 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.719 is fill out this little form. It takes just less than a minute. 28 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:02.760 Really, just give your information and email that kind of stuff and you'll get 29 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:07.400 a complimentary ticket. And the first two thousand fans that make their way into 30 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.199 Lynn Family Stadium will get two thousand dollars or not two thousand dollars two The 31 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.360 first two thousand fans will get a T shirt. Don't want to te two 32 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.360 thousand dollars. You're not going to give you two thousand dollars, but it'd 33 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:21.000 be great if they did. But yeah, tomorrow at four o'clock as they 34 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:27.240 take on the uh Bay Football Club, is that what they're called. It's 35 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.080 a stupid name. There's any BFC. Yeah, BAFC, some of those, 36 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.159 some of those the names they give clubs, they're I mean, like, 37 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.439 I mean, am I supposed to be scared of BAFC. I mean 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.960 where they located? That Tampa Bay or something. I feel like I need 39 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.560 to confirm the name. Now. Well I'm looking at it and it's BAFC 40 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:47.240 dot Com. That's them. I'm on, So I think you're right. 41 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:53.319 But yeah, where they located the Bay area? Does that mean San Francisco? 42 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:58.120 Yeah, so they're coming coming from the West coast. But yeah, 43 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.800 they're uh, they're going down tomorrow. That's all I know. And I 44 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.800 believe, and we'll get clarification from mister Greer is going to join us a 45 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.479 little bit later on. But I do believe that with their draw meaning racing 46 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.199 Louisville, they are currently I think in line for the last playoff spot. 47 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.599 So let's hope they can keep some momentum rolling here right. If you guys 48 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.840 want to join us on the show, you can five O two five seven 49 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.000 seventy nine hundred is the number. If you want to give a call, 50 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.599 you can also text in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line five 51 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.680 O two six five three zero seven ninety. Let's go to the text line. 52 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.120 That's a good question. I mean, it's a question that often that 53 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.719 often comes. Actually, let's go to a different question because some good stuff 54 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.479 that came in earlier. I want to go later, get back to this 55 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.680 one, because it's it's it's a it's the typical hypothetical question that you get 56 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:45.960 in the off season, but somebody put an interesting twist on it, and 57 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.599 I want to wait and get to that once we have a little more time. 58 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:52.319 But this says Nick, are you surprised to see Trenton Flowers not get 59 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.840 drafted last night? Do we thank him for leaving because he could have helped 60 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.800 Kenny? Or do and do we claim him he was here? What do 61 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:00.879 we do? Well, you do whatever you want. I mean, you 62 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:09.919 mean he was here, he didn't play, he bailed and you know at 63 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:15.280 the time that happened, and you know, John, I know you don't 64 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.560 listen to every single word I say, and you don't keep track of my 65 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.199 takes from many, many many months ago. But I'm pretty sure I defended 66 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.160 Kenny in that and saying that, like, there really wasn't a whole lot 67 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.519 that Kenny could do to keep that kid from deciding to leave. Like I 68 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:32.279 was critical of Kenny for a lot of things. When Tritton Flowers left again. 69 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:36.399 He was here, money was there, he was already getting paid, 70 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:41.279 and he at the last minute decided to up and leave and go to Australia. 71 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:46.959 And I don't, you know, Kenny can't control that, but I 72 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.040 think given how the season played out, it's probably not a crazy thing to 73 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:56.759 think about how maybe he could see how dysfunctional things were, how unorganized things 74 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.759 were, and he could just see the writing on the wall that regardless of 75 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.360 the p personnel here and regardless of my ability, I got to get out 76 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.439 of here. I don't want to be attached to this because he was. 77 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:10.399 I saw towards the end of the draft they were doing the ten available and 78 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.480 he was in there towards the bottom of the ten. But like, if 79 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.240 he's at Louisville last year and he's you know, because to be honest, 80 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.800 talented kid, he wouldn't have made a damn bit of a difference. He'd 81 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.720 have given you another body, And they did have injuries last year at times, 82 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.480 so like maybe they'd had another win or two wins along the way, 83 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:33.680 but it wouldn't have changed the overall situation. Right, But I feel like 84 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.519 he probably made the right decision because I feel like his draft stock would have 85 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.480 been worse had he played in college and been a part of that because he 86 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.600 wouldn't have been close to the best player, but he would have showed glimpses, 87 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.360 showed upside, but his numbers wouldn't have been like great. And I'll 88 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:54.519 put it this way. Trey White who is now at Illinois, talented guy, 89 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:59.399 you know, meaning he's got good size. He's not really bad at 90 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.560 anything, although other than defense, which I'm not sure if he's ever even 91 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.040 anybody. He might not even know what defense is. Like maybe if somebody 92 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.800 told him what it was and what the what the objective is when you don't 93 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.000 have when your team doesn't have the ball, like, maybe maybe he'd be 94 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.240 pretty good at it because he's super athletic, has good size, and you 95 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.839 know, he was an all Pack twelve freshman performer for a good USC team 96 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.079 and then you know he comes to Louisville and you know it just didn't work 97 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.319 out. But like my point is this, like he wouldn't he would Trent 98 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:28.000 Flowers would not have been as productive as Trey White when healthy. And that's 99 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.040 not to say Trey White's great, but like you know, it's just he's 100 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.240 a true freshman. So hopefully he can. You know, I don't, 101 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.120 I don't have much. I don't I don't really care what happens. I'm 102 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.519 not saying, you know, like when I say I don't really care, 103 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.759 it sounds mean, But what I'm telling you is that, like I don't 104 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.560 wish that he doesn't have a great career because he left Louisville. But I'm 105 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:46.360 not gonna lie. He would be fake and be like, man, I'm 106 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.160 really hoping he has a great career. I just you know's it doesn't really 107 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.480 relate to me. So like I'm not going to spend time thinking about what 108 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:55.560 happens with Trenton Flowers. But to answer your question, I don't see how 109 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.519 anybody from Louisville whatever, like if he does into the end up in the 110 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.879 league, which he signed signed with somebody, but I'm not sure if he 111 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.879 signed a two way contract or if he signed just when the summer league. 112 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.639 He probably signed a two way contract, to be honest with you, But 113 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:12.199 whatever he did sign, if he does end up having, you know, 114 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.439 a long career in the league and he's successful, I mean, you could 115 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.360 do what you want, but I would feel like it would be very disingenuous 116 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:23.680 to claim him because he didn't play here and he left, Like, I 117 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:30.319 think it's weak when Kentucky fans claim Innis Canter and Shade and Sharp, although 118 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:31.519 Shade and Sharp you shouldn't. I mean, he didn't. He didn't claim 119 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.839 you like he didn't want to play for you. He used you, so 120 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.680 like, I don't know why you would ever claim him, but Canter wanted 121 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.480 to play didn't and it was because d N s DOAA, So like I 122 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:42.920 feel like it's a little bit more. It's still weak because he never actually 123 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:45.439 played a second at Kentucky. But that makes a little more sense. Trn 124 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.639 Flyers was here, took money and left. But there's also again that other 125 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.519 component to where like I can't say that I blame him for not wanting to 126 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.519 be a part of what was last year, and as it played out, 127 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.000 it's a little more believable now that he left because he knew that he was 128 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.959 not going to be a part of a successful team and he probably wasn't even 129 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.279 going to be top three leading scorer. And you know, it's still a 130 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.000 weak thing to do in the grand scheme of it, but these guys got 131 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.319 to look out for themselves and that was his that was his exit strategy, 132 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.360 is to just bail and go to Australia where he you know, he had 133 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.120 moments, he had flashes. But yeah, it looks like he signed with 134 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.680 the Clippers, but I can't I can't figure out if it was actually a 135 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.319 because there's a huge difference in signing, Like when you signed to be on 136 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.720 somebody's G League team, that's not a trend like they're gonna they're gonna pay 137 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.799 your way to be in Vegas for the league. I think you get some 138 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:45.039 type of compensation for that, But I mean it's not a contract, like 139 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.559 there's no you know it's it's really it's not even a tryout. It's just 140 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:54.320 you know you're here and you may get ten twelve minutes a game and that'll 141 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.840 give you a chance to kind of show what you know, what you can 142 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:03.399 do. So, yeah, it looks so like he did sign Let's see 143 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.039 here, Yeah, it says it's unclear what type of contract he signed, 144 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:13.600 which again that's a big factor in in in how all that comes together, 145 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.000 like for example, DJ Burns, which, by the way, did you 146 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.519 see how much weight DJ Burns lost? No, he lost like forty five 147 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.919 pounds in the draft process, and that's a quick forty five considerable it was 148 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.360 just in the final four. Let me, let me, let me just 149 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.200 double check this, because I feel like saying forty five is like, no, 150 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:31.960 he lost fifty. He lost more than fifty pounds in the lead up 151 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.919 to the draft, and he still looks like a big guy. But you 152 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.600 know, he signed I think it was a summer league, you know, 153 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.440 a agreement with UH with it might have been the Cavaliers or something, so 154 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.279 yeah, with the Cavs. So you know that's not I mean, he 155 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.120 should go to the summer league. Here's here's how it works. If you're 156 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.799 fresh out of college and your best opportunity is G league or as a contract 157 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:58.240 in the summer league because you didn't get drafted and they didn't give you like 158 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.600 a two way deal. You should go to the Summer League and just you 159 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.039 know, see what you can pull off. Maybe you can really ball out 160 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.360 and turn some heads and end up on somebody's training camp roster and find your 161 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.639 way on their roster or find a two way right because that's if they sign 162 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.360 you. Like this is a scenario that I could see happening for DJ Burtns. 163 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.679 He goes to the Summer League and you know, despite being a very 164 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.360 different player than most as far as how he plays, style and all that 165 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:30.960 stuff, he's still is effective and ends up getting an opportunity to sign with 166 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.159 them a two way deal on their and be a part of training camp and 167 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.240 then they probably wouldn't keep him on the fifteen man roster, but it may 168 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.159 turn out to where they have him in the G League. So look, 169 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.039 if you're in the G League and you're on a two way contract, or 170 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.639 you're in the G League and you were on your rookie contract meaning you were 171 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.600 drafted, you know, you're not making the high end of the NBA salary, 172 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.240 but you're making a good You're making a lot of money, you know, 173 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.879 compared to guys who are just on a G League contract. So But 174 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.799 what happens is these guys understandably so once they've done the Summer League a couple 175 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.000 of times and they realize, you know, I still haven't turned this into 176 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.759 an NBA opportunity. A lot of these guys don't play Summer League because they 177 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:13.600 realize it's better off for them to not risk injury and really take advantage of 178 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.799 the type of money they can make in Europe. Guys will chase the NBA 179 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.320 dream, I think, until they realize it just wasn't meant to be, 180 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:22.159 and then they can use the rest of their time where they're young enough and 181 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.399 healthy enough to play and go make a great living playing in different countries. 182 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.799 So I always think it's silly when people all have fun in Europe have fun 183 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.919 in you know, China. I'm like, well, I don't know about 184 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.039 you, but I think it's a dream come true to be able to play 185 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.519 the game you love and make a living. So I just think it's funny 186 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.080 how people kind of mock that. But anyways, let's bring him in. 187 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.360 He's doctor Larry, Ben's from pro Reha physical Therapy. How are we doing 188 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.960 this afternoon, Larry. We're doing wonderful, Nick, but more importantly, 189 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.080 how are you. I'm doing well. It's a Friday. There's some good 190 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.159 vibes here in this great city of Louisville, and I am excited to chat 191 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.399 with you. And you are, obviously folks know Larry from for a variety 192 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:00.759 of reasons. Doctor Ben's a prorae physical therapy. They've been partners with us 193 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.759 for years, partners with the University of Louisville. But you also are connected 194 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.080 with the University of Louisville specifically, and I'm just curious to get your thoughts 195 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.759 on the big news that came out a couple of weeks ago, and it's 196 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.360 been talked about it. I don't act like it's been ignored, but I 197 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.799 don't know if people realize how different college athletics may look here in a couple 198 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.440 of years once these universities have the option. And I say they have the 199 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.960 option, I mean if they don't choose to pay them, I don't know 200 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.440 how they're going to, you know, have a good athletic department. But 201 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.200 you know, we'll have to wait and see what it all looks like down 202 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:31.960 the line here. But just kind of your initial thoughts is that as the 203 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.440 settlement took place, and now schools are allowed to pay up to twenty two 204 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.879 million annually to student athletes across the board. Yeah, no, it's very 205 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.000 interesting, Nick, And there's a series of what I would refer to as 206 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.600 knowns, and there's a lot of unknowns right now and pending. You know, 207 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:50.279 certainly there has to be a sign off by the judge on the settlement. 208 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.720 Let's not forget that. And they've already promulgated at least with the distribution 209 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.720 of the house settlement would be member the house. Athlete who filed it was 210 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.720 a swimmer, and it looks like swimmers as a percentage aren't going to get 211 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.360 very much. So it's kind of has a bit of twisted irony there. 212 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.240 But effectively, what's happened is you take step back and you just talk about 213 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:20.000 college athletics as an industry outside of the NFL. It's the largest revenue industry, 214 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.240 far bigger than the NBA, Major League Baseball and the like. So 215 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:30.480 you have to look at it and it's a sizable group. And what's happening 216 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.759 here is it's not going to be professional. Now, you could argue this 217 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:39.919 nil wild West name image likeness because of the no real rules has turned into 218 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.440 just paint players. But that will end in terms of the big picture of 219 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.399 things and the way they arrived at this. You cited twenty two million, 220 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.879 and that's just indexed for that year. So if this starts in the fall 221 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.279 of two thousand, you know, effectively a year from now, budget approvals 222 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.519 by athletic departments across the country, we'll have to take this settlement into account. 223 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.639 Now might get pushed an additional year. I personally hope it does, 224 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.120 but the reality is it's likely going to be in the fall this you know, 225 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.960 coming up next fiscal years. Most universities are on a July fiscal year. 226 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.320 The way this is, Yeah, I was just going to say, 227 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.519 I was just gonna say, the way this was playing out, I feel 228 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.799 like a lot of a lot of athletic directors universities across the country were I 229 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.919 don't know if they expected this number, but like this wasn't probably a huge 230 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.360 shock to them. It kind of seemed like this was where that where it 231 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:33.639 was heading. Now, that's right, I think that. You know, 232 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.279 the first question is where did the twenty two million come from? Well, 233 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.840 that's a revenue share, like in the NFL and other sports where you might 234 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.240 have a fifty percent revenue share. I think they decided, well, all 235 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.960 fifty percent is too high, We're going to go with thirty percent. So 236 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.120 this is somewhat arbitrary with some delveration, if you will, And that's where 237 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.320 this twenty two million dollars is index. But then there's a whole series of 238 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.720 thoughts around, well, there's offsets to the twenty two million. You know, 239 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.120 we're not going to have scholarship limitations anymore, and so if you have 240 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.559 ninety you know football, you know right now we have eighty five. If 241 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.799 you go to ninety, if you go to twenty five in baseball, if 242 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.639 you go to certain numbers, those scholarships will reduce the twenty two million dollars, 243 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.120 meaning that theory, every dollar reduction is a dollar or less that you're 244 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.240 effectively paying players. So there's a little bit of a trade off there and 245 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.840 misaligned incentives if you're being honest, because the less scholarships you have, the 246 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.840 more money you'll have to distribute to paying players. I would estimate that the 247 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.279 bulk is going to be, you know, obviously football, followed by men's 248 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.320 basketball and women's basketball. Just like you're saying with the settlement. You know, 249 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.879 the proposed percentages there are likely going to align, but schools will be 250 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.159 have the flexibility to do what they want. And I would suggest or believe 251 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.200 that in the Power five conferences that if you're not at that high end of 252 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.639 the twenty two million dollars, you're not going to be competitive. Y. 253 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.720 It's just the you know, it's just the fact. I mean, that's 254 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.639 why you have minor league sports and you have major league sports. They could 255 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.519 pay differently. You were just and seeing the G League a few minutes ago. 256 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.799 There's a big difference in compensation. The other factor is that name, 257 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:10.799 image and likeness will have a series of rules around the fact that it is 258 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.000 supposed to be for name, image and likeness. When those become propagated, 259 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.080 who knows. But that is a big part of this because a lot of 260 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.519 things, people think the collectives will go away, and I don't think that's 261 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.120 the case at all. While I think the universities are going to have to 262 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.240 support the athletic departments in this twenty two million dollar rep share, you're still 263 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:32.759 going to have a collectives that fulfill of necessary purpose, just like you have 264 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.399 professional football players that get endorsement deals. For their name, image and likeness. 265 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:38.759 You're going to have the same thing in college, but they'll be more 266 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.039 driven around, you know, a regulatory environment as opposed to right now where 267 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.120 there's zero regulations. So you know, that's been critical for the University of 268 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.440 lov I mean we have five or two circle. It has been the lynchpin. 269 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:56.320 The community support and the broad based support of it has been the reason 270 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.039 why we have such an excitement on men's basketball right now, certainly in football 271 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.079 and some of the other sports as well. I think Dan McDonald and baseball 272 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.920 and others that are Yeah, they're thriving. And the thing about it is 273 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.279 is that the the biggest asset I think our five pot two circle has is 274 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.680 the collective wisdom around the coaches, the athletic department, and the collective working 275 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:21.920 together. Because in a lot of programs around the country it's a disjointed effort, 276 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:23.720 but not at University of Little So I think that's a good thing. 277 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.359 Now back to this twenty two million dollar rupture, It's going to create some 278 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:33.599 interesting, you know, series of consequences because right now student athletes get a 279 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.359 scholarship, if thronoical scholarship, they get what's known as Alston money, which 280 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:42.960 is a dollars meant for somewhat academic is that essentially the stipend people reference exactly, 281 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.200 Well, there's two stipends, So the Alstin money, there's some requirements 282 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:48.799 they have to meet either a certain GPA or they have to you know, 283 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:53.920 the schools have their have ways they require to get the entire you know, 284 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.599 I call it fifty nine hundred dollars, and that varies from school to school, 285 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.079 but it's based on the It was, you know, another legal settlement. 286 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:06.559 The guy's name was Austin, and the reality was that students athletes were 287 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.160 to disadvantage because they couldn't get academic money because they were student athletes. And 288 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.680 so they said not, now you get academic money. That's where this you 289 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.279 know, this money comes in. But then they also get the stipend called 290 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.119 cost of attendance. So the cost of attendance at the University of Louisville might 291 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.440 be six thousand, at the University of Alabama it might be thirteen thousand. 292 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:29.519 And it's determined by local governments and such working together to try to replicate what 293 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:33.880 would be the amount of money a student athlete needs to support themselves. Outside 294 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.000 of scholarship. I mean, they need gas money, they need additional money 295 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:40.000 for food and you know all the type of things this student closes and the 296 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.880 like. And that was the original thought behind cost of attendance several years ago. 297 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.279 So, unbeknownst to the general public, student athletes have in theory been 298 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.720 you know, at major universities have had access to this Alston money and access 299 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.640 to cost of attendance. At least at the University of LOUISLL that could be 300 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.319 ten thousand dollars a year. It go a long way for a college kid. 301 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.000 It absolutely you know, it can buy a lot of a lot of 302 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:04.480 you know, a lot of Big Max, a lot of beer for a 303 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.799 college kid, There's no question about it. The question will come into well, 304 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.920 how will those dollars be factored into this twenty two million? In theory 305 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.960 there might be a credit. Well, if they're a credit, are they 306 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.799 taxed? Are they not taxed? And so it's a mess, and there's 307 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.680 going to be lots of you know, considerations, and right now nobody knows 308 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.200 a lot like how where's the twenty two million in it come from? Well, 309 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.039 there's a lot of ideas floating around each university is going to have to 310 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.799 figure it out for themselves and then they'll be best practices in the like well 311 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.039 where there'll be transparency. Well, I know what the quarterback at the University 312 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:38.599 of Alabama is being paid out of that twenty two million? Will that impact 313 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.160 the quarterback? You know that we're recruiting for university at Louis. You know, 314 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:47.039 in the NFL and the NBA and others, salaries are effectively slotted. 315 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:51.240 There's almost complete transparency. Will that happen in college sports? I don't know. 316 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:55.359 You know, then will you supplement that through NIL? It'll be interesting. 317 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:56.839 But the reality is, whether you like the settlement or you don't like 318 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:03.640 it, you have to adopt because where this is where we are, and 319 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:08.559 we have seen that late you know, kicking people come into things kicking and 320 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:12.519 screaming and do not accept the change. Are the ones that you know don't 321 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:18.200 do as well as early adopters. And so given the fact that the University 322 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.640 of Louisvelle has done so well with NIL, I suspect with the leadership of 323 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:27.519 Josh hur and President Chattle and the groups are working within their department, I 324 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.599 believe will be early adopters. I believe will be very successful at it. 325 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:37.319 But until we get more direction and clarity around the rules, around the regulations 326 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.559 around the dollars, right now, everything's a little bit of speculation. Yeah, 327 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.680 And I think as a fan myself, it's nice to see that from 328 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:47.599 from all From from what I can tell, everybody at the University of Louisville 329 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.400 has has handled this, as you just mentioned, just knowing, like regardless 330 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:53.920 of thoughts on it or challenges this, this is what. This is where 331 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.599 we are and we will always strive to be as competitive as we can be. 332 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.720 So we're going to do what we have to do, you know, 333 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.960 to make it happen. And I know you may not have all the you 334 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.839 know, I'm sure you don't have every detail about the money that goes here 335 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:10.720 and there, but I'm sure there are some things internally that could could save 336 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:12.119 some money, that they could eliminate that like we wouldn't even know about. 337 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:15.160 I'm sure there's things that from the outside looking at people say, why would 338 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:17.720 they do that, that's a waste of money. Well, I'm sure there's 339 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:18.960 value and there's a reason why they're doing They're not doing it just to do 340 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:23.039 it, But there probably are some things they can tram along the way that 341 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.319 would would you know, probably not going to give you twenty or twenty two 342 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:27.519 million, But you know, I'm sure they have some things in mind as 343 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.000 this was approaching to where they could they could save some money. And I'm 344 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.119 not talking about cutting sports. I'm just talking about making just making some changes. 345 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.920 No, that's absolutely right. I mean, you look at an average 346 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.720 you know, the budget at University of Little athletic department is of one hundred 347 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.039 and fifty million dollar range. It represents about eight and a half nine percent 348 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:48.640 of the university's total budget. Other universities those those those numbers are different. 349 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.920 But it also brings in a lot of money in the university because it brings 350 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.200 in in scholarship and housing and everything, about twenty seven million dollars. Because 351 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.359 you've got you know, five hundred plus athletes that you've got spirit teams banned. 352 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:02.599 You also have people who go to major colleges because they're have a Division 353 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.240 one sports, and so you have a lot of indirect you know, aspects 354 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.319 of this. I think last year I've been reading financials of athletic departments around 355 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.359 the country, like I'm trading football cards, and you could my numbers here 356 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.119 are going to be, you know, directionally correct, and that the ACC 357 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:21.240 schools have been supporting their universities in the tune of about fifteen million dollars a 358 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.359 year, so you're going to have more. You're going to have more academic 359 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:26.839 and other support from the university. You're going to have to in order to 360 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.240 be in the Power five division one kind of thing. So I think, 361 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.559 you know, what are some trade offs and what are some good news about 362 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.039 this? Well, the settlement is going to mobilize things for a while. 363 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.079 All of a sudden, you don't hear too much about conference realignment right now, 364 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.279 and for good reason. Everybody's got to try to figure out this new 365 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.039 repshare model. Focus is shifted. The focus has shifted in a major way. 366 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.720 Right now. Everybody's scrambling for nil. But you know this is going 367 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.680 to change and this scourry here. In about nine months, we're universities trying 368 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:57.920 to figure out their budgets for athletic departments. It's going to be fun to 369 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.160 watch from both the spectat are in from the participant level. So I'm very 370 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:06.640 excited by it, and I fundamentally do believe that this is long overdue to 371 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.359 some extent. I take the position at student athletes, for the most part, 372 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.359 have been exploited over a many year period. I know some people would 373 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.640 probably disagree with me, but I believe when you have lots of profitability and 374 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.920 money coming on, when you got these media rights and some you know it's 375 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:25.759 the Big ten and the SEC going forty fifty sixty seventy million dollars at media 376 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:29.920 rights, that money should be shared more to the you know, proletariat and 377 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.160 the labor that's produced it. Where has it been shared in the last several 378 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:34.559 years. Well, the money has gone to facilities, and it's gone to 379 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:38.359 coaches and coaches salaries. You're now going to have limitations in the number of 380 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.440 coaches for football. Will those salaries increase? I predict that they won't. 381 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:47.759 I think in the NFL right now, their facilities are good, their training 382 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:49.720 facilities, everything, they're great. But you have to manage these things like 383 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.559 a business. And so right now, when you're having an unfunded mandate to 384 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:59.279 get twenty two million dollars or you know, it's going to make for some 385 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.039 interesting desis vision making and you're going to have winners and losers, that's for 386 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.519 sure. But it's going to be extremely exciting time for the Power of Five 387 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.839 conferences, particularly football, and there'll be better transparency, I think in what 388 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.880 people are being paid. Doctor Larry Bens and Pro pro Reapdesic Therapy is our 389 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.440 guest joining here. Really informative conversation. I have one more question for you 390 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.119 as we shift gears here. The TBT coming up next month. A lot 391 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.640 of excitement from the Loisle fans to see these former Cardinals competing with a chance 392 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.440 to you know, excite us and win some games and win some money for 393 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.960 themselves. And the big addition this year is Montrez Harrel, who is going 394 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.160 to be playing. Trees is coming off of an injury that kept him out 395 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.319 of the NBA last year. He tore his ACL and his meniscus and I've 396 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.319 seen some you know, this happened in October of last year, and I've 397 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:47.519 seen he's working out, he's playing, he's sharing some clips of him in 398 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.160 different open open runs and whatnot, and he looks like he's, you know, 399 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:52.440 he's he's ready to go. I don't think he'd be playing if he 400 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.039 felt like he wasn't. But just the timeline there, you know, to 401 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.240 know when that injury took place, and as we sit here in late late 402 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.119 June and a lot will be when these these games take place. Is this 403 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.319 a This is a typical time frame you'd expect from someone like him to have 404 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.920 that kind of injury. Yeah, it's interesting. First of a couple of 405 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.400 things. Pro Rehab is going to be supplying the sports medicine for here we 406 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.079 go. You we're very excited about it, and you know, so I'll 407 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:19.599 know have a little better uh you know, firsthand knowledge when when we see 408 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.039 it. But yeah, the timeframe fits again not knowing the extent of his 409 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.599 injury, because as you mentioned, he not only had ACL I think he 410 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.119 had some miniscal some other things going on there. But I think that's part 411 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.359 of it. I think the other part of it is the number of minutes. 412 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.880 You know, keep in mind this is a shortened season, and if 413 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.160 I recall last year, which brought a lot of excitement to our fans, 414 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.759 they played a fair number of players. So how many minutes will he be 415 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:47.799 expected to play? What type of contributions will those minutes increase? You know, 416 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:48.759 the further they get in the tournament. I mean, this is a 417 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.839 very interesting tournament, as you will know if you remember years ago it started 418 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:53.920 out as a one and done. Now you've got a little opportunity and so 419 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:57.279 the dollars are pretty huge. Yeah, it's awesome. I cannot wait. 420 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.640 It was very exciting last year and I know it's going to be just as 421 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.119 exciting this year. I'm sure Pat Kelsey is going to be on hand doing 422 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.400 what he does, getting people excited and really just sharing that infectious energy that 423 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:08.759 he has. So good vibes, no doubt, Larry. I appreciate you 424 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.440 making time for us to know you're very busy man, so again we appreciate 425 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.799 it. Enjoy your weekend and we'll talk soon. My friend absolutely, thanks 426 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.440 Breddy. It's doctor Larry Ben's pro Rea physical therapy. Always appreciate his time 427 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.200 and always informative. But some really good stuff there as far as the financial 428 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.759 component of college athletics, as things are about to change in a major way. 429 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:27.759 All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side and 430 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:32.720 we'll welcome in the one the only mister Jeffrey Greer from Soccer Holdings to talk 431 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.799 about tomorrow's big match and other things as well. We always go in a 432 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.319 lot of their different directions with mister Greer, so stick with us right here 433 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.400 on Sports Talk seven ninety Coffee and Company. About halfway through here on a 434 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.359 Friday, as we get you set for the weekend, and we now bring 435 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.079 in the one, the Only, mister Jeff Greer. Jeff, how are 436 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.799 we doing here on a beautiful Friday afternoon. I'm doing great, Nick, 437 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.680 And I gotta tell you this might be the first time that I did not 438 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:03.039 recognize a Turn to Action song there? What what song was that? Though? 439 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.200 I was just playing so producer John, I'm he may not be able 440 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.880 to hear me, but you can relay the information of Okay, it was 441 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.519 Don't put out the Fire by Dirty Honey, Don't stump you, don't put 442 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:18.160 out the fire by Dirty Honey. That's the song. I was gonna guess, 443 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.119 like reda Van v I feel like that style. So yeah, good 444 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:23.720 stuff, and you know, like to keep we got to keep you on 445 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.319 your toes career, come on, you know we keep you on your toes 446 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:33.000 a little bit. So with tomorrow's match, obviously you guys are looking to 447 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.279 fill the fam and and I'm expecting to see a huge crowd out there for 448 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.400 you guys. But not all draws are created equal, correct, Like the 449 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.880 draw from from your most recent match was pretty significant, and and and it's 450 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.960 put you guys in a spot. And I may be wrong here, but 451 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.720 you know, playoff postseason still clearly in contention. Right, Yeah, for 452 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.720 sure, we're still in a playoff spot and very much in the thick of 453 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.039 it. But you're right, you know. I always liking this to my 454 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:02.640 to my non soccer loving friends. Basically, we were trying to kill a 455 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:07.279 power play for eighty minutes, is basically how I described it. I mean 456 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.920 we were a player down from the ninth minute on, so eighty one minutes 457 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.200 playing with one fewer player and anyone who has seen the size of a soccer 458 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.240 field, I mean, that is a really challenging thing to do. But 459 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:25.119 it took a really good team effort, a lot of hard defending, and 460 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:30.880 then literally the last kick of the game, we just kind of dropped the 461 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.680 ball into the box, knocked it on and poked it in with one of 462 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.240 our rookies. It was really a great finish. It was fun to walk. 463 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.640 I was already on the field waiting for postgame interviews when the when the 464 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.000 ball went in and our team is celebrating, and it's there's nothing more fun 465 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.200 than being part of a team on an away arena and a place that was 466 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.960 previously just full of life and ready to go party being absolutely silenced. I 467 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.640 mean that it's so much fun on those environments, and we've done that a 468 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:02.319 couple of times this year, so we're coming back with a little win in 469 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:03.920 our sales. For Yeah, I can say it creates a momentum for you 470 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.880 for sure as you have this this match tomorrow that obviously again hoping to see 471 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.079 a great crowd out there taken on BAFC, would you say that there's somewhat 472 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.440 of a comparable type of team as far as where you guys stand within the 473 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.119 NWSL standings. Obviously you're not going to overlook any kind of an opponent, 474 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.880 but this is certainly a winnable match. Yeah, for sure it is. 475 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.960 And to your point, I mean, we've learned from last year. I 476 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:32.599 think going into the last day, there were if my memory serves, there 477 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:37.720 were four playoffs spots taken out of the six available and this and they've expanded 478 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.720 the playoffs this year, but last year I think it was like the other 479 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.720 six of the other eight teams were fighting for the final two spots on the 480 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:52.200 last day of the season. So this is an incredibly, incredibly competitive league. 481 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.559 Every year there are so many tough games, and this is yet another 482 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.839 one where it's just like, yes, we're favored playing at home, but 483 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.119 this is going to be an absolute dogfight. They are an expansion team this 484 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.680 year. They're one of the two new teams a AFC out in San Jose, 485 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.480 San Francisco area. But there's got a lot of talent and it should 486 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.000 be a pretty evenly matched game. Jeff Grez our guest joining us here on 487 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.799 Sports Talk seven to ninety. Again, if you guys have never been to 488 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.960 a Racing Louisville game, I mentioned this throughout the show. You can get 489 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.440 in for free tomorrow. I tweeted out the link earlier. If you just 490 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.599 go to the website. There's a banner right there at racingloufc dot com. 491 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.200 It's to fill the fan banner. You click on it and you'll see the 492 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.839 link there where you can fill out that form. You can actually get discounted 493 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.359 tickets for students, and there's also a special group rate if you bring ten 494 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.400 or more. So hopefully we can do exactly that and fill the fan tomorrow. 495 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:48.200 So pregame happy hour for two bucks. The first two thousand fans and 496 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.240 attendance are going to get a free T shirt. But what I need to 497 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.319 know is live karaoke. What are you going to sing for us tomorrow? 498 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:04.000 Well, I recently put on a solid performance at a karaoke barne birthday U. 499 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.640 And I you know, Nick, I'm sure you're the same way. 500 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.920 I'm kind of like an R P O karaoke singer, Like I like to 501 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.759 get up to the line of scrimmage and just read the bar. You gotta 502 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.000 see what the vibe is. Like I was at a Kikos a few years 503 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.400 ago. You're there to deliver what they want, and you can't really know 504 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:22.640 that until you're up there and you feel in the crowd. You kind of 505 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.880 they're gonna take you in the direction exactly. So like there had been probably 506 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.720 I mean, I'm not a big country guy, and and and that's fine. 507 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.319 You know, there are probably about ten too many country songs in a 508 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.680 row at a Kikos a few years ago. So I had to mix it 509 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:45.480 up a little bit and get up there. But and I'm trying to remember, 510 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.319 Oh my gosh, of course I bring it up now. It's a 511 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.920 Kanye song she gives Me Money, Oh gold Digger yoah Lord, I couldn't 512 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.319 think of the name of the son great carry. I would never think to 513 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.759 sing that song. That's a good karaoke song. It's a great when when 514 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:02.359 when the when, the call and response for we want prenup? Oh yeah? 515 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.920 The bar shut it down and the rest of the night was the rest 516 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.240 of the night was a great night at the kikos h This week, I 517 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:15.880 thought like, maybe we needed to have a nice relaxation moment out in Seattle. 518 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.359 So I sang Sex on Fire by Kings of Leon and just belted it 519 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.920 out, calmed the bar down a little bit, let everybody have a drink, 520 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.559 and then the others got back to it. So, you know, 521 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:29.359 you just got to feel things out, re read the linebackers at the line 522 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:30.680 of scrimmage, and really figure out what you want to do. As a 523 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.960 reason, they call him the man of the people because he gives the people 524 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.200 what they want. And those two songs specifically, I mean, those are 525 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.640 great karaoke songs. I wouldn't I wouldn't have thought to perform those and a 526 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:44.160 keikos man, it's a little intimidating. I feel like, I've been there 527 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:45.559 a couple of times in the last few years, and you know, you'll 528 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.559 see some very amateur singers and then you'll see some people and you're like, 529 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.480 oh my god, they came here to let everybody know this is their domain. 530 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.079 Like I was blown away by some of the talent, legitimate talent that 531 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.079 you see at that place. Yeah, and it's one of my favorite spots 532 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.680 in the city. I haven't been in a few years now. One of 533 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.039 the all time nights that I've ever had, my brother was in town for 534 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.000 literally it was like twenty four hours he had He was a surgical fellow, 535 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.680 so he had one of those like fellowship interviews, so you fly in, 536 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.680 you meet with a bunch of doctors, and then they give you a few 537 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.480 hours in the at that night to do whatever you want. And we went 538 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.839 to this like festival where it was like smoked meats. This was years ago, 539 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.440 and we like we had an incredible night eating all sorts of different barbecue 540 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.759 and stuff, and then we ended up at a kikos and at like two 541 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.720 in the morning, we're singing Toto's Africa and in between, like during the 542 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.039 instrumentals, my brother kept shouting we're brothers, very loud in case somebody didn't 543 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.920 know. Yeah, and the crowd just ate it all up. So I 544 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.839 love that place. But you're right, unless you've had enough of your bush 545 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.559 lights, buddy, it's not going to be uh, it's not going to 546 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.960 be a friendly crowd. Well, I'm sure it wasn't even something you planned 547 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.960 to say, but you said it perfectly. We ended up at a keyko. 548 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.279 You don't really make plans, you know what I'm saying. You end 549 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.799 the night kind of leads you there, and if the night does lead you 550 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.000 there, it's usually it's usually a pretty good night. All right. I 551 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.719 got a couple more questions for you. We'll stick with with racing lou here. 552 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.639 I just want to give you a chance to kind of shout out some 553 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.360 of the personnel within the squad here. Obviously you got some momentum mentioning the 554 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.199 big draw last week when odds were against you guys, But who are some 555 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.320 of the players that you feel like have really been, you know, delivering 556 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.360 this season so far. I don't want to, you know, I know, 557 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.039 I'm sure everybody collectively has been doing their part. Everybody has their own 558 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.280 role, But who would you say has really kind of emerged this year and 559 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.039 kind of help get this thing in the position where you guys got a chance 560 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:40.079 to go to the postseason. Yeah, I mean a familiar name for soccer 561 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.840 fans, Savannah Tamelo. She was on the US national team last fall at 562 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.800 the World Cup. Started a couple of games. She's our leading scorer. 563 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.440 She needs one more goal to tie the club record for most goals in a 564 00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:00.400 season at six, and surely she'll she'll blow past that and the the second 565 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.400 part of the season. I'll point out two other players who I think are 566 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:09.559 just really fun for people, and they're both rookies. We got a kid 567 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.079 out of UCLA. She won a national championship. She was an All American 568 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:19.440 and I heard your discussion with doctor Ben's before I came on. She was 569 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:25.880 the very first NIL athlete signed period by Nike oh Leyland Turner. And yeah 570 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.119 she is. I think she's only twenty one. I don't even think she's 571 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.119 turned twenty two yet. But she scored that late goal for US the other 572 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.920 day in Seattle, and she's just oozing with talent. So I'm really excited 573 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.559 to see her play. Sign her to a longer term deal and then Ema 574 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.119 Sears, who went to Ohio State. You'll love this nick. She somehow 575 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.360 was not on anyone else's radar at the draft this past year. But our 576 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.800 coach, one of our coaching staff members who does a lot of our draft 577 00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.760 prep and previously had worked at Ohio State. We've been scouting her for like 578 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:06.400 three years, and so when the opportunity came for us to grab her at 579 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.239 the end of the second round, which is incredible value, we snapped her 580 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.679 up quickly. And you know, we had like three or four teams come 581 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.639 over and say, oh man, we really wish that we had drafted her. 582 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.440 It's like, yeah, well you had. You had twenty seven opportunities 583 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.519 to do it, and we snagged her. But she's second in the league 584 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.480 in goals for rookies. That's awesome. She's statistically one of the top like 585 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.159 two or three dribblers in the league. And she is faster than I believe 586 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.119 the last I checked, she's faster than half of Louisville City's roster. Yeah. 587 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.400 So, I mean, she is a freak athlete and it's very very 588 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:45.559 fun to watch ms Ars and will be one of the stars of this league 589 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.079 for years to come. So I think those two in Savannah Demelo have been 590 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.760 so much fun to watch, and their goal scorers and they beat people off 591 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.800 the dribble, and it's just it's fun to watch those types of players. 592 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.320 I love when things come together like that to where you were aware that nobody 593 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.039 else was talking about her and and meaning you know, your coach who had 594 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.199 coached her before, was well aware of what she could do. There wasn't 595 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.239 a ton of buzz and sure enough you take that chance and know that you 596 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.400 know it's not something maybe anybody else would have drafted that, not somebody that 597 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.159 somebody would have drafted that at that time, but then't sure enough she's delivering. 598 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.679 You mentioned second in the goal, second in the league, among in 599 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.840 goals among rookies. So uh, that is that is certainly awesome. Right, 600 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.679 last question for you, Jeff, how many years does Brownie James play 601 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:34.920 in the NBA? Wow, that's a curveball. As long as it he'll 602 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.559 be there. Yeah, I was gonna say he'll be he'll be on the 603 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.199 Lakers as long as Lebron is there. But but look, I mean, 604 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.800 and you know, I know it's hard for people on the on the in 605 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.000 the Eastern time zone to watch pack, Uh, what is it packed? 606 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.480 Twelve games now at RP. I don't know what USC H whatever league USC 607 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:58.760 is going to be going into, but I watched them more than once, 608 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:06.119 I want to say times, and you know it's he's one of those guys 609 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.639 and gosh, there a dime a dozen. It seems like at this point 610 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.760 where you could point to them and say, you remember Troy Williams Indiana and 611 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.320 yeah, like, oh my gosh, this guy just had there's something there. 612 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.719 I don't know what it is. I don't know if it'll ever all 613 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.800 come together, but there's definitely something there. And that's how it felt about 614 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:28.440 Bronnie, Like there were these little moments that he would do things and you're 615 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.679 like, Okay, I can see he's got he's got a little DNA that 616 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.920 will help him out. I could see, I can see what he's got 617 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.159 going on, and maybe there's a player there. I just don't know if 618 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:44.280 I would have tried to go into the NBA now, I maybe would have 619 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.039 tried to cultivate myself a little bit more at the college level. But so 620 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.559 I'll it's a long answer. I'm waffling a little bit, but I'll say 621 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.320 I'll give him three years. I'll give him three years in the NBA in 622 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.639 some form. Does that include the G League? Yeah for sure, Yeah, 623 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:04.880 because that's probably where he playing something. I think one of the things 624 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.199 about Bronnie that nobody could talks about is that he doesn't try to be his 625 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.880 dad when he plays. And I think that's you know, most people can't 626 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.239 be Lebron because he's Lebron James. But I feel like that's actually an undervalued 627 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.639 thing for this young man who's really a kid essentially. He he kind of 628 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.159 knows who he is a player. He's a defender, he's he's an athletic, 629 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.599 uh, you know, off the ball kind of guard, and you 630 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.360 know, he's not terrible. It's just it's just so obvious that he entered 631 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.599 the draft way before he should have, and he got drafted specifically put because 632 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.280 Lebron and a lot of a lot of a lot of pressure comes with that. 633 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:35.960 But uh, I'm pulling for him. You know, I'm not going 634 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:37.440 to turn into a Lakers fan or whatnot, but you know, I think 635 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.360 it's been he's carried himself. So the example I used earlier, Jeff was 636 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.920 this, look at how Deon Sanders children behave. Not to say they're terrible 637 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:47.639 guys, but like their show, like they are clearly just you know, 638 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.280 in your face show, like a lot of a lot comes with that. 639 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.599 And I think Bronni's kind of handled himself as good as you could. Is 640 00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:59.159 somebody in that position. Yeah, well, and I'll throw one other thing 641 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.519 out, Nick, And you know this increasingly, and like Peyton Steva would 642 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:08.360 tell you this, Russ Smith, there are so many more opportunities to play 643 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.199 professional basketball. And I know that they've been there for a long time and 644 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.719 but they're expanding in a way that makes it more financially viable for people like 645 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:23.679 Brownie's never gonna have to worry about money. But there are so many opportunities 646 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.480 to play at a high level. And that's another part of this too, 647 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.719 is like, look, if there's no shame in you not making the NBA 648 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.840 or sticking in the NBA, you'd go play in Spain. You have a 649 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.199 nice life. I mean, look at Kyle Carrott, you could have a 650 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:38.480 really nice life. And now Granton, he's playing at one of the best 651 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.159 clubs in the world. But I mean there are guys who who've had decade 652 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:49.960 long careers or longer playing second second level pro basketball overseas. So I mean, 653 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.079 I just I think there's an opportunity for him somewhere, and I'm sure 654 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.519 he'll stick. I just don't know if it's going to be with the Lakers 655 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.159 past Lebron's on the day he up as Sneakers. Jeff, you are the 656 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.599 man. Thanks for making time for us on a Friday, and best of 657 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.760 luck to the club tomorrow. Hopefully they can get it done. All right, 658 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.039 thanks my man. I appreciate you, all right. That's Jeff Greer. 659 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.599 Always appreciate the time and the conversation. Quick break. Will come back 660 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.239 for a quick segment, super quick segment to wrap at the four o'clock hour. 661 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.599 And then it's five o'clock on a Friday. Folks, buckle up Will 662 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.519 Smith on a Friday? Or is this good summer vibes? Yes? Smith. 663 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.280 For a second, I thought it might have been all cool Jay, 664 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.880 but no, it's definitely Will Smith. I recognize it now, all right. 665 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:38.800 Uh you know who else I recognize as the leader in real estate services 666 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.960 relative services, I should say in this market Kentucky, Ina, it's my 667 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.960 friends at Edlin and Edlin. 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We'll reset some things from last night, talk a 692 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.920 little more about the NBA draft stuff, and get yourself for the weekend. 693 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.639 It's Friday, folks. Let's let's let's get it started right. Maybe your 694 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.079 weekend starting right now. We got another hour to go, but you know 695 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.559 we're almost there. Keep it locked right here. It's Coffee and Company. 696 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:37.480 Phil Beth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety