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Good evening, everybody, thank you
for joining us. Tonight. Myself

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and my fellow Mysterious Library, Jason's
librarian rather, Jason McClain, are going

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to be looking at the latest offering
from Seth Breedlove and the rest of the

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small Town Monster's crew. And that's
the film Land of the Missing. It's

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the latest in there on the trail
of Bigfoot series, and this time the

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team travel to Alaska to try to
work out the correlations between that state's ridiculous

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amount of missing people, legends that
perhaps a Sasquatch or a big Foot or

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something similar is taking them. So
we'll be digging into that tonight on Mysterious

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Library. Good evening, It's under
Mysterious Library, me, Dean, you

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know it's gonna be hot tonight because
we're talking talking about sasquatch kidnapping people,

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and I think we all know what
that one thinks over there, so you

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know it's it's gonna get spicy.
But before we get too far, I

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need to say think and you say
thank you to Nancy Malcolm with a five

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dollars super sucer. Thank you,
Nancy. We appreciate that you beat me

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to it. I mean, Nancy
is one of my favorite and one of

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our loyalist listeners, viewers on this
and on Talking Weird, and I think

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on other shows on the network as
well, and I just wanted to just

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to tell people I noticed Nancy actually
shares this show sometimes in groups. Joe

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Fox, another regular viewer or listener, another one of my favorite people in

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the ess, also shares. That's
the way you can help the show get

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out there. If you want to
share it, I mean, if you

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want to give us a superstick,
a fan free fantastic. But even sharing

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it on social punches it out to
a bigger audience. So all of those

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things are helpful. No, I
mean that is I mean again, like

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following, subscribing, all that's great. Sharing is one of the one of

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the best things that you can do
because why should you suffer alone? Inflict

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us upon the world, just saying
inflict away people. But no, I

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love doing this show. It's so
much fun doing with you, Jason.

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I'll tell you something that wasn't fun
quickly. Today one of my chickens disappeared.

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I think the neighbors dogs took it. That happened sometimes I went out

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to night. Well, it could
be forget your chicken. There's a big

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Foot siding up the road here,
so anything's possible. Land of the Missing,

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Land of the Missing Chicken is where
it is here as opposed to Land

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of the Missing. Lord knows a
lot of my chickens have gone missing over

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the years. Maybe when I've been
blaming my neighbors pack of dogs that run

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through here like hell hounds, or
when I'm blaming the raccoons that I trap,

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or when I'm when I say trap
them, mayn't do it for fun.

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I mean when they're killing my chickens
and I have to lay a trap,

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a live trap so people don't get
stoking upset. But I've always blamed

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these critters. Maybe it's always been
big Foot and these poor dogs and weasels

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and foxes and the other things they
blame raccoons, possums. It's always been

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the big Foot. It's always been
big Foot. You're persecuting these poor animals

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when really Bigfoot's out there. Just
leave out some KFC and you'll be fine.

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There you go, food tributes,
which incidentally, people do do that

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for Bigfoot, and you know what
that's like, as Joshua Cutcheon would tell

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you who it's very much like people
leaving tributes for the fairies. Speaking of

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Joshua Cutching, I know we played
it a week or so ago, but

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I thought it might be nice if
it's still in here, which I think

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it is somewhere. I believe we
still have the video there, or maybe

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it's been to leave no here it
is. Let's play the trailer for Joshua's

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new book, because when we played
it you could only pre order. I

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believe it's actually dropped now and today
on Amazon. It was number one in

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horror fiction, number one, so
it's already like just shooting up the charts.

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So let's play the trailer for Joshua
Cutching is People who might or might

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not know, he's one of the
most respected thinkers within the paranormal community.

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He's written such books as are Where
the Footprints, and with Timothy Ranner he's

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written Ecology of Souls, Trojan Feast. He's literally at the top of our

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game, at top of our field
anyway, and this is his first novel

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and it deals with these type of
themes but within within the context of a

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fictional story and a fictional approach.
So let's play the trailer anyway. I'm

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really just trying to figure out how
he got I can't Matthew McConaughey. I

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can't believe you guy's name there for
a second. How they got him to

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do the ad for that, because
it sounds like cat like Matthew McConaughey half

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explained those things. Well, they're
from out from out there, from here,

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it's alright, alright, alright.
He was a great and true detective,

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the first one with that kind of
love crafty and we bent so good

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King and the King and Yellow kind
of you know subplot of that so good.

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Yeah. Now I'm going this.
I am really going to be excited

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to read that when I get my
copy, because it's when Dean says,

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he's basically the top of you know, the top from a you know,

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sort of a you know intellectual perspective
that he's at the top of the game.

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I can't. There's there's no one
who would argue that. Anyone who

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argues that hasn't read his work,
particularly Ecology of Souls. The man has

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done his homework and he's taking he's
done homeworking away. A lot of people

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just don't him do in this field. So yeah, no, I'm really

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looking forward to this because I think
this is where a lot of people,

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I hate to say this, but
a lot of people who do research it's

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really just fan fiction. So someone
does actual research and then brings that to

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fiction work, that's going to be
amazing. Oh yeah. He understands the

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nuances and the strangeness of it as
well, and too many whether it's real

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or whether it's not real. The
phenomena, whatever the phenomena is, I

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mean, as you know, I
tend to think is one phenomena which has

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various phenomena breaking off from it,
at least the paranormal aspects. I don't

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necessarily think that a weird light in
the sky has to be paranormal. It

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could be all kinds of things,
but the weirder aspects I think a lot

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of people don't understand the nuances,
and the best fiction that's ever done about

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any of these things from people who
understand the nuances and close encounters of the

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third kind exactly. That was it. Classic example, except Spielberg at the

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end has to have the literal Disneyland, you know, when you wish upon

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a star playing and the little lovely
Star people come down. But up until

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that final moments, that final disclosure
moment at the end, the rest of

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the film is very reflective of how
strange all these phenomenon ah and the impact

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that it has on witnesses, which
is just spectacular. And so occasionally you

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get a piece of fiction. Mothman
Prophecies would be another example. I'm not

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talking about John Kiell's book. I'm
talking about the adaptation from Mike Pilkinson.

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That's another classic example that understands the
strange nuances. So I know Joshua Cutcheon's

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book, which I have a copy
here you can't wait to read, is

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going to be filled with even even
more nuances. And that's what makes it

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so exciting. You know what we
need to do Because to your point,

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I would suggest the best Bigfoot movie
ever made was Willow Creek and for that

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very reason. Bobcat Golfweight, the
comedian who made that film, he's actually

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he's very much in the big Foot, and that film has a lot of

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that deep nuanced lore within it.
Then you can only appreciate if you're in

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the big if you're really in the
Bigfoot field. So we should do a

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review of that movie because it is. It's, hey, just a really

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well done horror film, found footage
horror film. It's probably one of the

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best I've ever seen as far as
that that genre. But yeah, from

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a Bigfoot, you know, sort
of lower perspective, brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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So yeah, again, I'm looking
forward to this book. I know

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y'all are looking forward to this book. We'll probably have to review the book

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at some point because this is the
Mysterious Library and you know how the how,

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the how, the periodical and new
New Arrival Kremlin's get about these things.

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You forgot to mention one big Foot
movie that the greatest of all time,

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the Legend of Buggy Creek. I
know it's one of your favorites,

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Jason, It actually is my favorite, to be honest, actually, Isa,

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I know it is. We will
have that conversation when we review the

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movie, because we will be due
reviewing the movie. But I'm just talking

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about general as far as generalized lure
goes and that in that very nuanced perspective

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of the loure. I'm sorry,
Will Creek is the best there is,

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straight up. I found one thing. I shared it with you ring out

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during Cushions advertisement. I have to
throw this up here for the for the

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group, and then well we'll start
talking about the documentary. I'm sorry I

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saw this. I just think it's
the best. No tread on if you're

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if you're listening, you need to
go to the YouTube to see this.

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It's basically a take off of the
Gadsden flag of a crab holding a knife.

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For those who've seen that video is
there's no tread on Krabo or you

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get the stabo. That's how I
feel too, Krabo. Thanks thanks for

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demonetizing as Jason, You're welcome.
We really we'll be yeah, we'll be

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fine. Well yeah, let's be
honest. If we haven't given them enough

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reason, now we're probably safe.
But what did you say? What do

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you think of the film. We
haven't talked about it at all. We

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both watched it. I like Yeah. This again it's it is a small

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town Monsters video, right, It's
it's one of their documentaries. It's as

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good as I mean again, they
crank out the best material in the in

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the genre right now. In many
ways, this really reminded me sort of,

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uh, sort of like the old
school Monster Quest, like that that

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first season where it wasn't just about
the the interviews where you actually had the

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you know, that main investigator,
whether it was Ken Gerhard or one of

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the others, going out and investigating
along with them. That's really what it

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reminded him of, sort of that
very first season of Monster Quest. Uh.

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And it's again it's brilliantly shot right
for for what it is. It

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is, it's well scripted. There
is a narrative that's there that that does

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it. It does its job very
well. So again from a from a

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perspective of a documentary, because this
is really a se it's not just one,

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it's a series of documentaries. Yeah, because it's on the trail of

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big Foot and so it's essentially a
a series. I think it's as great

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an entry as anything that's out there. I think I think it stands up

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Yeah, and I actually think I
actually did now in a reflection, I

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got a feeling I did some of
the early on the trail ofs at Midwest

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Weird first because I used to regularly
play Seth's movies before he got a different

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distributor, so I would go directly
through Seth. In fact, that's how

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I found him when I screened his
Boggy Creek movie. It's still my favorite

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small Town Monsters film. Actually is
really what's their is it Boggy Creek Monster?

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Is that the name of their Boggy
Creek movie? I can't remember.

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It's like their third film or something. That's still my favorite with Lyle Blackburn,

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And there's that wonderful contrast to Blackburn
back at the property and the original

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document the original Legend of Boggy Creek
movie, and he's the key character who

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was a little boy, he's the
narrator and the original Legend of Boggy Creek

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goes back and we've got Blackburn in
that space, and there was something about

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that that film which will always remain
my favorite. Is it's the slickst documentary.

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No, because it was early in
their days small Town Monsters. Is

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it? Does it have the most? Does have the most? Wonderful camera

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work. No. Does it have
the most the most high end interviewees.

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No, But there's something about that
movie which is so charming. But I

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enjoyed this film as well. I
dug it. I obviously obviously when you

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watch a forty in film, if
you're somebody like me and you've got certain

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not so much skin in the game
because I'm on the outside anyway, but

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when you have theories that interest you, if I'm not watching necessarily in a

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review for this show, I can
kind of relax a little bit more and

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just enjoy it. But when I
watch it for this show, I'm you

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know, I'm thinking for mysterious Library, I'm thinking about what do I agree

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with? So I agree with you
that the film is is entertaining. It's

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well shots, it plays really well. There are things in there, though,

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which I think will get to that
I disagree with theoretically, which are

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fielded not necessarily by small town monsters
itself, but by various witnesses and various

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people who were who were given screen
time in there. And of course,

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any time you start talking about Bigfoot, there's gonna be so many different heads

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clashing into or budding each other into
what's real and his Bigfoot good is Bigfoot

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bad? Is Bigfoot physical as Bigfoot
not physical? You know so you almost

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can't talk about Bigfoot without you're going
to get somebody's heckles up, And this

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movie might do that. And I
think it's very conscious, or at least

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some of the characters in it are
very conscious. When I say characters subjects,

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I guess like Alexander he said his
name one of the guy who does

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a lot of the Bigfoot documentaries for
small you're asking me about names. Yeah,

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I think to get how to pronounce
his last name. But it said

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and I like him, I like
the stuff he do. But it felt

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to me very much that And when
you're watching a movie, it's edited,

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and you know so context conversation is
sometimes just the best snippets of a conversation,

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so it's hard to exactly always understand
exactly the person's full positions. But

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it seemed to me that he was
reluctant to accept, as some other people

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in the Dock commentary as well,
reluctant to accept the fact that Bigfoot mightn't

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be nice and might be actually taking
people. Like he said a number of

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times, well, there's lots of
Native American legends, but that might just

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mean once upon a time the tribe
had some negative encounter and that became the

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store. Right. For example,
there seemed to be you could almost see

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the influence and forgive me if I'm
wrong. If you're watching Alexander, You're

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probably not. But if you are, forgive me if you're I'm wrong.

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But I could still feel the influence
of early Bigfoot research is particularly the leaders

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in the field like John Green and
Peter Burne, and this happy mythology of

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the gentle giants of the forest.
You know, you could see that seeping

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through because nobody want to there we
go Alexander Pedokov, my vision so bad

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about my glasses? Yeah, And
like I said, I enjoy his filmmaking

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any think he's very talented. But
I think there was a reluctance there to

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accept the tales that's Bigfoot is hostile
and if it was maybe one Native American

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tribe you could go okay, But
there's so many Native American tribes with stories

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about Bigfoot taking people it's not even
fun. And then literature itself, like

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I mentioned you the other day,
I was writing book Ages Ago because my

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co worker, I think got busy, but my co author got busy with

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other things or whatever. But I
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violent accounts, and the literature is
filled with it. And you don't even

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have to be an expert to realize
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if you look at Ruby Creek,
if you look at so many of

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these incidentss which are the or incidents
which are the founding stories of modern big

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foot law, they're just low.
If you look at even the original tales

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about when sasquatch got introduced into the
Western language, those tales that were being

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run in magazines native Americans having encounters
with hostile, hostile sasquatches, And I'm

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not even called that Ruby Creek.
I'm talking about other ones. It was

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so formative that sasquatch was dangerous and
to day, I think ever since Peter

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Burn and ever since John Green and
a lot of people at that time period,

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we wanted to think of them as
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forest. And I'm not even saying
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whether they're real at all, But
the history of bigfoot isn't the history of

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the peaceful giants of the forest.
It just doesn't now. Could you find

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some of that where he was curious
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not the history of bigfoot law.
Hold on, hold on, m petical

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media just happened to chime, then
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Thanks for checking out our film again, Like we said, it's a

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it's an excellent film. Let me
let me tell them since let's tear it

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now, let me throw poor Alexander. I'm guessing that's Alexander right. I

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was just saying, how much like
your work, Alexander, and I enjoyed

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this film. But my understanding was
that your position seemed to be like John

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Green and Peter Burne's position that these
things weren't dangerous, and perhaps the legends

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we have from various Native Americans vibes
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Well, I was suggesting that there
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growth of Bigfoot stories, or the
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of the whole Bigfoot narrative, that
they are hostile. There are multiple reports

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of them being hostile. So if
I misrepresented you as I said, I

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may have been. I apologize,
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from the film anyway. And well, so I do think the film does

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a really good job of because again
the lens of the film specifically was again

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the idea that particularly in Alaska,
people may or may have been kidnapped by

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Bigfoot right or Sasquatch, and that
and that level of and there are a

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lot of stories that do come out
of Alaska. I will say this,

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one of the things about the stories
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I tend to I tend to see
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areas far more. Again, Lower
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I think it's a very very very
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Alaska or really into Canada. I'm
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because, let's face it, lower
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and thirty million people, and the
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twenty eight million of them, right, And when you come to when you

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look at Canada, seventy percent of
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I mean virtually, I mean both
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the part of Canada that's just not
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you talk about that, that that
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that that's Canada and bleeding into Alaska, which has only uh you know,

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seven I had ran it down seven
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less than seven hundred thirty three thousand
people. There's nothing but room up there,

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right. So this is why stories
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find far more convincing, because there's
just so much more room for them to

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be, particularly to get as big
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no, I'll read it and then
thank you for coming Pedikov Media, which

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is Alex. I apologize if I
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think they are friendly forest giants.
That was me being a little bit facetious,

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by the way when I used that
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don't think they are friendly forest giants. That seems to be naive thinking.

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In my opinion, I think they
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wild creature would, especially for their
size. So there you go. I

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may have misrepresented you. And I
apologize if I did, but I will

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be honest that the size of the
Alaskan wilderness, Jason, to your point,

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does seem to be potentially a habitat
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one of my my problem is when
I look at a lot of Bigfoot reports,

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it's like I live in a rural
area and there was a Bigfoot report

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down the road from me, and
one of lind Of Godfrey's books spoken about,

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but the idea of there being a
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though there's woods and farms and all
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that they would have been living here
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mean. And now then I know
that people talk about, well they follow

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follow the creeks, and they go
around the country and everything else, it

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just seems farcical to me to believe
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If they're physical, I don't doubt
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don't think they're necessarily live in this
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it means that's some type of manifestation, or whether it's psychological or sociological phenomenon

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or whether they actually do come into
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have no idea, But when you
look at a space of territory like Alaska,

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then you can go, well,
maybe maybe there could be something physical

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in Then then those type of stories
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than when people are seeing them in
Ohio or when people are seeing him.

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And you know, the suburbs of
you know, I don't know names somewhere

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where people suburbs of Dallas, for
example, like in your Oh yeah no,

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I mean five accounts, right,
I mean here in places I went

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I literally spent my nine teenage years, right, So yeah, I am.

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I'm very open to your position on

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that. And I think because again, on any given day, I'm thirty

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seconds away from saying it's all paranormal
and just being done right. Although well,

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while Alexander is here or someone from
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say this. One of the things
I did like that they threw in there

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towards the end of the second act
became of the third act is the little

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people lore and the accounts of some
of these things that kind of seem like

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smaller or more ape like creatures.
They have been discussed for a long time.

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Yeah, we've got And this is
where it's weird, because you get

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accounts of like gnome like creatures where
they're like just humans but much smaller.

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But then you have these devil monkey
looking creatures, and so they do address

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that. It's like, hey,
this is here, like why do we

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have this variety? Because it is
one thing. And again, this is

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where you and I tend to agree, right, Having one undiscovered relic hominid

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from Ages immemorial is one thing,
but having so many weird things in sort

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of a small area you start treading
credulity here. And this is where to

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your point, yeah, don't worry, I'm gonna come back and we're gonna

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we're gonna are jellow rastling here in
a second over over that. But it

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is I do like that they didn't
shy away from the fact that, yeah,

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there's some elements of high strangeness here, even in the account that I

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know is absolutely your favorite. Again
I have to write down because I'm terrible

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with names. Fred Roll will get
I figure we'll end on that one on

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that account. But even even within
there, there is there are elements of

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high strangeness that you just can't if
you're in the big foot field for any

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level of time, you cannot avoid
that. You can't just dismiss the fact

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that a lot of these accounts have
these elements of high strangeness that really do

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like in themselves more to paranormal entities, or let's go back to the fairy

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folk, right, Well, that's
yeah, speaking about the little people,

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speaking about little people, as you
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about people having encounters with smaller beings, some of the witnesses are playing the

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audio of a calling them little people. And I know the graphics in the

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film present these things as like small
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you're right just the same way that
Missing an Alaska had tales of more gnome

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like things and things which were more
monkey like. Obviously, it's a it's

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a ninety minute documentary. You can't
go into all the minutia, but I

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think there's probably reports of things which
are slightly different within those little people,

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reports which are spoken of in the
film, like I'm sure some of them

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are like little kind of monkey type
critters. My daughter would know the name

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because she likes Missing An Alaska.
I don't even know what they called it,

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Missing An Alaska. Those monkey like
things have a name. Yeah,

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I remember the cush to car is
like the Ottoman because my daughter knows that

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name. But I bet you should
know the name of the monkey people as

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well. But then there are taught
tales of the things, which again I'm

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going back to my only real knowledge
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Missing in Alaska. They have the
episode as well of the little gnomes that

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are duck people. And yeah,
so there does seem to be yes,

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a big foot taking people or the
little gnomes taking people? Think type,

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yeah, these devil monkeys exactly.
That might even be what they call them

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in Missing An Alaska's slang. It
might be devil monkeys. I think you're

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right. But but Son, even
though we were initially talking about the potential

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perhaps there're being something like a real
physical bigfoot in Alaska given the ginormity of

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the terrain. But then when you
start hearing about all of these other things,

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it does make one step back if
they're already that way minded, Like

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I am back to a more Kellyan
interpretation where it's like, well, maybe

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all of these things just manifestations of
the same force. Because it's it starts

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to stretch credulity of Alaska has gnomes, if it has giant bigfoots, if

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it has weird little monkeys. You
know, all of these things start to

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go, come on, we'd have
one of these things. And I think

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either Seth or Alex makes the points
in the film of saying, if there

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were these many attacks, I'm sure
we'd have a body because somebody would have

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shot one right now. Obviously that's
a very good point. If these things

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are physical, yeah, there'd be
a body for sure. I'm sure every

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I was just going to say every
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Probably more than that in Alaska have
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live, almost everybody, and I'm
in Wisconsin, probably almost everybody has a

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firearm. So I think if there
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there would be a physical body if
they were physical. But these attacks

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might happen, and it might be
something which isn't as easily identifiable as a

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relic tominoid or homonoid, or a
strangely undiscovered monkey species, or a little

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no man who lives underground if it's
some other force or some other phenomenon which

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people are interacting with and which manifests
in these various ways, and it doesn't

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live here with us permanently physically for
the entire year, hiding in the woods,

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then absolutely, if these things come, there wouldn't be a body,

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but they'd still be it. There
could still considerably be attacks, and still

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could conceivably could be strange experience as
people have. But if there's no physical

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creature living here, then yeah,
there's not going to be a body.

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to my suspicion that there is no
physical sasquatch living in the woods of America

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or anywhere, because not even if
there's attacks, just if there's I think

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alex or Seth, I can't remember
who, but they make the point in

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the film of saying, well,
there's this many attacks, yes, somebody

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would shoot them. I think they're
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would go so far as to say, if there's this many sightings in North

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America, somebody would have shot one
and had a body by now. And

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and here's the thing I don't inherently
disagree, except I'm the guy who says,

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maybe what we have is multiple phenomenon, one being that there is a

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physical Bigfoot, but it's a very
very small population. The problem is we've

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got the paranormal stuff and we've got
the physical stuff, and we don't really

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know which is which. And maybe
the problem is people are shooting. People

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are shooting or shooting at the paranormal
stuff. And and here's the thing.

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If you shoot it and it does
die, you still have to be able

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to it still has to die in
a place where you can retrieve the body.

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You have to survive the encounter,
and then you have to be able

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to bring those remains back. And
I mean that's I'm sorry. They're men

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who are who hunt. Who there
are people who hunt. I mean even

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who will go out, they will
shoot a deer. Again, they're in

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a stand optimal, everything's optimal,
and they still can't recover the deer.

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So I just I think that there
is one of those things where it's like,

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look, I get it. I'm
not. I'm not un sympathetic to

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this view, right, I'm not. But I do think that in a

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in a way, there is a
bit of an oversimplification. Now, I

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do need to disagree with one thing, grasshoppers. Grasshopper says something like a

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twelve gage slug would only something like
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I would agree that most rounds that
are used for hunting smaller game would not

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necessarily drop something like a bull male. But one of these stories, Uga,

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we'll get to your face. I
know that three rounds from a thirty

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six man, three rounds from a
thirty six cent a mess. Yeah,

405
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,039
that's what I'm saying, right like, that's my that's my thing. Like

406
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,480
a lot of hunters who have I
mean, a thirty at six should take

407
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:22,680
anything in North America out. You
can kill. You literally can kill a

408
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:30,200
grizzly, a full adult male grizzly, a bull, a full bull bison.

409
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,440
With a thirty at six, you
can take. There's no reason why

410
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,079
you shouldn't be able to take down
a fully grown adult bigfoot if it was

411
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:45,599
a naturally occurring biologicalenty with a thirty
at six. Now I'm gonna throw this

412
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,680
out here, so the story and
again, guys, go see this episode

413
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,839
or this film. I love it. Like I said, I'm it's as

414
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,359
good as anything you've ever If you
if you're like man, I really wants

415
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:59,160
some month. I wish The Monster
Quest had come back. Watch this.

416
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,319
It's as goes anything Monster Request put
out. Love you, Doug, obviously

417
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:06,680
gold standard. I'm just saying this
fills very much like that for a season.

418
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,440
It's as good as any documentary you're
going to see out there on this,

419
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,360
so please go watch it. It's
a different in tone, though I

420
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,000
agree with you that it's worth watching, but it's different in tone. It's

421
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:23,000
it's more about storytelling perhaps or bringing
in witness reports than it is about doing

422
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,880
the type of scientific in that.
And you know me, I don't even

423
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,360
like science. I'm a forty and
Monster Quest was always very ground that in

424
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,000
we're going to get the hair sample
or the footprint sample, or we've got

425
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,199
all the hidden camera, you know
what I mean. It was very much

426
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,320
this scientific approach to it. Well, this is probably close to what my

427
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,960
approach would be, to be honest, go out talk to witnesses, just

428
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,000
hear the stories, what's fable or
what's not fable. But yeah, it's

429
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,519
definitely worth watching. Sorry I stepped
on you. You're fine. You're fine,

430
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,840
So Fred Roll that's the name of
the story. It's a really interesting

431
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,599
story, it's a great story.
And in the story he says that again

432
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:09,119
thirty at six, he fires three
shots center mass and says the creature doesn't

433
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:13,320
even flinch, and he heard all
three hit as well as the point.

434
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
He says he heard them hit the
creatures. So if we take him at

435
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,159
his word, which I have no
reason not to, ye, he heard

436
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,880
these things hit it right, and
yet he still thinks this thing is By

437
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,920
the way, I got the impression
that witness still thought it was physically physible.

438
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:30,800
He just got super tough. But
that doesn't I mean, I could

439
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880
probably shoot an elephant three times with
a thirty or six and bring it down.

440
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,920
I mean that's a serious round.
People kill grizzlies with two two three's

441
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:44,599
regularly. People kill grizzlies with an
AAR fifteen and just oh dead grizzly.

442
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:51,239
Thirty six is a devastating round in
people kill elephants with AK forty seven's.

443
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,599
In Africa poaches a lot. So
if you have if you have any military

444
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,360
round, then you shoot any animal
multiple times. That animal isn't just going

445
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,440
to wander away. It just distance. And that's what's always bothered me about

446
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,880
big foot stories in Americas. Yeah, sure, some people are running around

447
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,280
with twenty two is, but most
people in the woods have at least a

448
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,400
rifle that can bring down a der
or. If somebody before said, you

449
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239
know, a shotgun with a slug
or so, I mean they have something,

450
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,440
even a big foot. I'm sure
we're just buckshot at close range that

451
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,239
big foot wouldn't be going, oh
I'm not hurt. Yeah, well,

452
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,199
and so this is where And again
yes, I'm I'm I think it was

453
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,519
Gin. I'm with Gen on this. I think if you odds are if

454
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:37,000
you if you kill again a naturally
biologically occurring big foot, I think you're

455
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,119
on borrowed time at that point,
because again I don't think it's just out

456
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:45,719
there by itself. But getting back
to to Dean's point, I agree,

457
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,719
if if he hit this creature and
it didn't drop, we've got we have.

458
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,239
This is not just something that's really
tough. I'm sorry, at three

459
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,559
or eight round, at the distance
that he's talking about, if he hits

460
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:00,880
it cert a mass, that thing's
at least flinching, right, I'm sorry,

461
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,719
at three or eight round is just
too big a round for him to

462
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,440
just slough it off. Right.
If he had said two two three.

463
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,639
Okay, I mean, I'd be
skeptical, but maybe it's just this was

464
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,159
much much larger, and it's like, Okay, you cheesed it off three

465
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:23,440
o eight three center mass. You're
not. But I gotta throw this out

466
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:30,400
here, and I'd mean absolutely no
ill And I'm not dismissing anyone. I'm

467
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,559
not saying the man's line. I'm
not even saying he's wrong. I'm just

468
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,440
saying one of the things we need
to remember in things like this, when

469
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:45,719
humans are in situations of high stress, dealing with something that they're completely unfamiliar

470
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,760
with, and particularly if there they
feel their lives are on the line.

471
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,599
He may not have actually hit the
creature he heard that. He may have

472
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:01,199
heard the bullets hit one of the
local a tree or whatever near. You

473
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:07,760
know, it's when people are in
stress, particularly if they're not trained to

474
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,280
be in that stress, they're in
strange situations. It's real hard for people

475
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:19,760
to I'm sorry, people's memories get
weird, and aim is not is really

476
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,320
just not one of those things that
we tend to to retain in those situations.

477
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,480
In fact, the vast majority of
rounds fired under stress, whether it's

478
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:32,360
combat or any or a police officer. The vast majority of rounds they are

479
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,360
fire do not hit their target.
And we're talking about situation where it is

480
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,800
dark his life. He feels like
his life, in the life of his

481
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:49,239
friend, friend and family members are
in danger. Right, he's moving right,

482
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,760
I'm sorry. I'm hearing his story, and so I hear your point,

483
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,599
and I don't think you're you're wrong. Your point is not wrong because

484
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,800
we've heard these stories of I know
I shot it, I know I hit

485
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,159
it, and this thing just kept
on walking. However, my point is,

486
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,119
in a lot of these high stress
situations, we need to take that

487
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:19,000
step back and say there's an asterisk
here because that high stretch situation or that

488
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:23,719
high stress situation can lead to misremembering
things, or you know, he may

489
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,639
have thought he hit it, doesn't
mean that he did. Yeah, I

490
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,760
would just I would add that.
I think that would make a lot of

491
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,440
sense if it was a single case. But as I mentioned before, I

492
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,599
literally wrote a chapter on unpublished but
maybe it might never be published, and

493
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,480
the whole book was literally the whole
I wouldn't want to spell the book.

494
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:53,000
The whole chapter was literally about sasquatching
counters. I'm so glad they actually had

495
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,320
this sasquatching counter in this movie,
because if this book ever gets released,

496
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,519
I'm going to go back and write
fred Ryle's story because it fits so well

497
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:07,199
the pattern. This is a pattern. Sasquatches attack a cabin or a house.

498
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,480
People shoot the sasquatch. There's a
really famous case in Hanoibia, Oklahoma,

499
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,280
where they were shooting these things every
night with their battle rifles, right

500
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,960
every night, and they didn't get
one. This is a famous case.

501
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,079
And then we have eight Canyon.
We have all of these. There isn't

502
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:29,280
one or two of these stories.
There is a life I can accept.

503
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,119
One guy can flake out. But
there are plenty of people in America who

504
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:36,239
are combat veterans, plenty of people
have been hunting their whole life, plenty

505
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,920
of people who can shoot. There's
plenty of people breaking into houses which get

506
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,719
shot and killed all the time.
So would it be stressful if a sasquatch

507
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,599
was coming in my door or banging
on my cabin? Absolutely? Could I

508
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,199
possibly fail in the moment of crisis
and not hit it? Potentially? But

509
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:59,159
could every time one of these stories
happen. Every single time people shoot it

510
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,039
say they hit it, and there's
never a body. So there's a pattern,

511
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:07,079
and it's a mythological pattern. That
doesn't mean people aren't experiencing this,

512
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:14,039
but I honestly think this is an
underlooked or an overlooked pattern of modern mythology,

513
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,880
and that is sasquatches attacking cabins,
getting shot and there being nobody.

514
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,239
There aren't one or two of these
cases. If you go and look in

515
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:28,360
on there are mountains of these cases
and we don't have a single body.

516
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,360
I mean, that says to me
that this we're not dealing with what we

517
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,000
think we're dealing with, or what
people who are apers or people who are

518
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:38,840
fleshing bloods or whatever we want to
call them. I'm not in any camp,

519
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,800
really, I'm just trying to look
at this almost academic, but I

520
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,719
just find it. I could understand
that this guy might have panicked and not

521
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,320
hit it, but has everybody who's
ever been attacked in this situation by it,

522
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,199
and there's a lot of the stories, has nobody ever hit one?

523
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,679
And again, center mass. If
you hit one of these things center mass

524
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:01,320
with the type of rounds we're talking
out, that should be enough to stop

525
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:09,079
the thing real quick. Again,
the situation for this specific this specific story.

526
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:14,159
They could not check for a blood
trail because they were being attacked and

527
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,119
they were retreating. They were trying
to get the heck out of there.

528
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,719
So Nancy Malcolm asked, don't most
hunters look for blood trail to determine if

529
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,840
they actually had their target or not? And yes, the answer to that

530
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,159
is yes. And here's the thing. There have been blood trails. And

531
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,039
since we will talk about the legend
of Boggy Creek, that conversation will come

532
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,920
up. But I'd like to get
back to this film, which again is

533
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,199
great. Love the film. Y'all
need to go see it, so just

534
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,760
quickly. There was a question.
There was a question from Nancy before who

535
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,639
actually gave us a supersticker? And
we didn't answer a question. So that

536
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:51,400
would be pretty miserable of us if
I didn't go back and find it.

537
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,840
Here we go. Could it be
they kidnapped humans to replace lost members of

538
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,920
their tribe? Well, that was
the story of the Awestimate abduction, which

539
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,400
is talked about in this film.
There was he a miner or a trapper

540
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,960
or something. He's out, he's
in his sleeping bag at night. There's

541
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,079
Big Daddy Bigfoot. There you go, Big Daddy Bigfoot snatches him up,

542
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:14,559
carries him back to this weird kind
of Bigfoot camp where he had the impression

543
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:19,559
he was going to be kept to
be the mate for this big Daddy Sasquatch's

544
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,360
daughter. So it's certainly, Nancy, You're not wrong. It's certainly within

545
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:29,159
the literature. And there's also Native
American stories which suggests there's a commonality in

546
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,199
the idea of we will, and
this film talks about that as well.

547
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:37,440
I think about the idea of their
being hybrids Native Americans who've been probably kidnapped

548
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,599
and forcibly mated with various Bigfoot populations, and then there's meant to be offspring

549
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,800
that people have seen. So you're
right, Nancy's it's certainly part of the

550
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,880
mythology. It's part of the mythology. And again it is talked about in

551
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,920
this film, which again why are
they and this is again one of the

552
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,519
Well again, one of the reasons
I really like what Smalltown Monsters is doing

553
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:05,440
with this series is they're really going
deep into these material, into this material

554
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,079
and really giving it room to breathe. And they're not just clipping, you

555
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,360
know, they're not just clipping.
Well, this is the most sensational stuff.

556
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880
They're giving you the broader perspective on
this phenomena. And oh, well,

557
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,599
there you are. You can read
that. Why didn't you read Alexander's

558
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,920
coming. Yeah, Alexander says,
we put We just put out a video

559
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,519
on Sunday with an alleged encounter and
was Virginia where a hunter killed a juvenile

560
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,039
and a female sasquatch collected the body. The police came and there was nothing

561
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:36,480
but blood left. So there you
go. And again when we get to

562
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,039
legend Bocky Creek, there's a blood
trail there. And so this goes back

563
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,519
to the to the on running discussion
between Dean and myself, which is,

564
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:52,360
hey, you know, there are
accounts of these creatures either being sick.

565
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,679
Now again not all of them,
but where they seem to be sick and

566
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:07,400
or die of exhaustion or are injured
and leave blood trails like this is not

567
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,800
an uncommon thing. But but to
Dean's point, there's an awful lot of

568
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:17,480
lore about them being shot and having
nothing happen, meaning they just slough off

569
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,679
the rounds as if you hadn't actually
shot them at all, which seems and

570
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,800
to his point He's not wrong.
The amount of accounts that we have that

571
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,840
say that does pushes does push credulity
of well, maybe just everybody missed,

572
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,480
right. I'm the first one to
say, look, I think some of

573
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:39,199
them probably just missed and because of
the high stress, they thought they had

574
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,679
hit it. But i mean,
hey, I know I've shot I have

575
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,280
shot dove with you know, pretty
close with a twelve gauge and had them

576
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,760
fly off, and I'm like,
what in the heck is happening here?

577
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,559
So I'm the first one to say
it's possible to shoot something you think you

578
00:45:53,639 --> 00:46:00,599
hit it and you don't. But
everybody, everybody, you know what I'm

579
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:01,920
saying, Like, I admit,
I can talk about things I missed as

580
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,320
well, and we can talk about
deer that you know, somebody mentioned before

581
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,039
in it comes rightfully so that deer
can get away and YadA, yadayada.

582
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,480
But every time a bigfoot gets shot, there might be a blood trail,

583
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,519
or it might poof in a flash
of light, or it might just swat

584
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:22,599
at the bullets like like mosquitoes that
I've read about, or it might just

585
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,119
be hitting like the fred Rail case, and nothing seems to happen happen,

586
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,239
and so what did Alexander say,
Sorry to clarify over only a juvenile was

587
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,280
killed. A female sasquatch came out
of the woods to pick up the body.

588
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,800
Perthose to the story. Well that, I mean, that's interesting,

589
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,159
but again it still fits the pattern
of we never get a body. And

590
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,360
to be honest, I think that
again because I tend to look at this

591
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,039
a little bit differently than probably a
lot of people in the big Foot community

592
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,280
because I'm not in the community.
I'm fascinated with it, but I'm not

593
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:59,159
in the community. I think this
absence of evidence consistently throughout all the Fortiana.

594
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Whatever it is, pick a topic, fits those older fairy traditions where

595
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,519
you come back from fairy land with
the fairy gold in your pocket and you

596
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:13,039
pull it out and it turns to
dust. There's and I'm not suggesting that

597
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,639
people aren't experiencing things, far from
it, but there does seem to be

598
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:21,000
some mythological trope that when we deal
with the other, whatever the other is,

599
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:28,920
that there's never any evidence to prove
our experience with the other. And

600
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,880
that's been going on from time immemorial, and that's why I suspect and I

601
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,320
don't know, and I could be
totally wrong. There might be a relic

602
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,679
population of hominides in North America.
I'd love it if there were. I

603
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,079
don't think there are, but i'd
love it if there were. But that's

604
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:49,159
why my suspicion drifts to the idea
that this absence of evidence suggests that whatever

605
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,800
the reality of the phenomenon is more
important as what it means as far as

606
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,719
we're human. What does it mean
to our experience on this planet and our

607
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:04,679
experience with reality, and our dependence
perhaps upon myth to make meaning of the

608
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,199
world. And again, that doesn't
mean I'm dismissing actual experiential accounts of Bigfoot.

609
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:15,480
It just means it fits within a
whole history of experiential accounts with things

610
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:20,760
which aren't us, intelligences which aren't
us, which seem to be somehow mysterious

611
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:27,000
or metaphysical, or monsters or supernatural
or whatever. And we never get to

612
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000
bring home the bacon at the end
to prove the story the exact same way,

613
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,239
and the old fairy tales people could
never prove the story when they came

614
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,679
back to day to day life.
Yeah, no, you're not wrong.

615
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Again, you're not wrong, and
this is part of that broader conversation that

616
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:45,719
luckily we get to have a mysterious
library overbuilt. Asks Alexander if you could

617
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:52,199
post the link to your YouTube channel
in the in the chat so they can

618
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:53,559
see where the story is. They
love to see this for again, y'all

619
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:59,559
are doing great over there. Love
the film, love the film. Oh

620
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:04,519
real, he just responded. He
says, a man versus beast Sasquatch on

621
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,119
Earth on the small Town Monsters channel, and while you're there, you can

622
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:14,199
see this film there you go.
Loved about it. See, I love

623
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,679
it when when a plan comes together. Nancy beat me too, because that's

624
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:21,280
one of things I was going to
talk about. So Nancy says, like

625
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,400
the fairy stealing babies, maybe Bigfoot
takes Tyler's from campers to replace recently dead

626
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,159
Bigfoot infants. Well again, that's
sort of the broader point, right where

627
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,119
again the gentleman who was kidding,
you know, ostensibly kidnapped by a Bigfoot

628
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:42,920
clan to be the mate for this
younger female Bigfoot. That fits right in

629
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:46,519
again to Dean's point with fairy lore, where you have change links where a

630
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:52,599
child is kidnapped and replaced with and
that child becomes a fay, folk becomes

631
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:59,719
fay, becomes a fairy somehow.
That's again that to Dean's point again,

632
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,840
let we defend the in here for
a second. Even I'm about tarrantum.

633
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:08,800
It is absolutely possible that there is, like there's just two. There is

634
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,360
a lot of overlap when you look
at when you look at sasquatch law and

635
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,320
you look at fairy law. One
things a lot of people talk about right

636
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:22,440
are Bigfoot's braiding the hair of of
of horses. Well great, but sure

637
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:28,039
if you're over in Ireland, they're
called fairy nuts and cut and cutshin and

638
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:30,079
rand. To make that point and
list a number of cases in the where

639
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:37,360
the footprints end two volumes set as
well. So the commonalities between big foot

640
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,400
law and fairy faith very well documented
in those books. But people have been

641
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,280
noticing how Bigfoot fits this pattern of
weirdness for a long time. I mean

642
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:54,039
Jerome Clark's and Lauren Coleman's books Creatures
from the Outer Edge back in the day

643
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,880
was suggesting that these things went physical
before Jerome Clark became nuts and boltzy,

644
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,760
and before Lauren Coleman became flesh and
blood bigfooter John Keel obviously was making very

645
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,000
similar points. Patrick Harp has made
very similar points. The people who look

646
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:17,119
at the whole phenomena, or the
phenomena rather the entire phenomenon kind of in

647
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,079
a broader picture. So in other
words, they're looking at everything from ghosts

648
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:27,519
to Blessed Virgin Mary's to bigfoot,
to fairy faith, to demonology to UFOs.

649
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:31,400
They start to notice that there are
real commonalities between all of these things.

650
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:37,199
And that's difficult, I think for
somebody to accept who is looking at

651
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,599
any of these things, whether it's
extraterrestrials or whether it's UFO stories and they're

652
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:46,280
putting it within an extraterrestrial mold,
or whether it's ghosts and they're putting it

653
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,880
in Spirits of the Dead mold,
or whether it's bigfoot researchers who are putting

654
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,119
it in there. You know,
and undiscovered North American ape species are a

655
00:51:55,159 --> 00:52:00,159
relictominid in a physical mold. But
when you start to bring those together and

656
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:05,440
look at the parallels, that to
me, I think is where not.

657
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,159
I don't think we're ever going to
get an answer, but that points us

658
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:14,360
towards perhaps what the nature of this
phenomenon is. Yeah, if we don't

659
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,320
do a comparative view, I think
we're in We're in all kinds of trouble.

660
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,519
If we ignore the comparisons between all
this different phenomena, then we're in

661
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,639
trouble. It's intellectually, it's intellectually
lazy not to notice that there there are

662
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:31,119
commonalities. Real quick, Nixon says, I'm sorry, but those horsemen,

663
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,679
but horses mains can do that naturally, which is ultimately our point, right,

664
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,079
is that this is a naturally occurring
phenomenon. But if you're in but

665
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:45,719
if you're in Europe, they're going
to they call them literally fairy braids.

666
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,400
But there are people here in the
US who attribute it to sasquatch. That's

667
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,480
the point, right, It's not
it's not whether or not it's a natural

668
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,800
phenomena or not. It's whether it's
the overlap between the two, right,

669
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:06,360
and the different mythologies that culturally deal
with this same experience in different ways.

670
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,199
Yeah. And I think and I
think this is a really interesting point that

671
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,320
should be made here. And I
think is one of these sections of of

672
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:22,480
of intersection between again the whole faious
sasquatch thing, which is what is mythology

673
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:29,039
in general, right, because the
the tribe, the African tribes that lived

674
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:32,679
amongst you know, in the area
where there were where there were gorillas before

675
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:37,719
they were officially discovered by you know, Europeans, they did actually have law

676
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:44,960
that said these gorillas would kidnap children. Now we know they don't actually do

677
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:51,320
that, but that law existed.
Rightly, I'll just interject real quickly and

678
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,239
then I'm sorry, but there are
certainly stories of children being raised by wild

679
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,840
animals. So My Daughter is just
the Jungle Book, the Disney movie,

680
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,599
but of course that are original Roger
Kipling tale was based on real stories,

681
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,480
yes, of children being raised by
wolves and other animals in the wild.

682
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,719
Like, so it does happen,
yeah, well, but usually those story

683
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:16,639
Again, usually those stories are a
child actually wanders off, or the family

684
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,159
is killed somehow and the child is
there, or the child is abandoned.

685
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,719
But the idea that a gorilla would
just would go into a village or into

686
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,920
a tribe and still children or still
a woman to keep as part of the

687
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,840
troop, we know that doesn't happen, but that will I've seen, I've

688
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,039
seen King Kong. That'll happen.
Oh, clearly, yeah, there we

689
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:43,039
go. Clearly I'm wrong, but
I think that's my point, right,

690
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:47,960
is folklore is not I say this
all the time, folklore is not phenomena.

691
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,159
And I think where we do get
a little too tied up as we

692
00:54:53,159 --> 00:55:01,360
we take a look at the the
folklore surrounding a phenomena and assume it must

693
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,519
It's like, well, that's what's
actually happening, and then we look at

694
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,519
the overlap. It may be that
a lot of the overlap is literally us

695
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:14,880
as humans putting our fears, in
our prior mythologies and our thoughts on this

696
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,719
phenomena more than the actual phenomena itself. And that's something we also need because

697
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,760
until we actually I hate to say
this, until we have a body,

698
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,360
we don't know that this is again, it's entirely part of the quantum bigfoot

699
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,960
theory or them as interdimential being theory. I mean, until we have a

700
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,039
body, we can't say no to
that they that the bigfoot phenomena is something

701
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,960
else. I happen to think that
there's reason to think that there is at

702
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,960
least a part of this phenomena that
is a naturally existing biological entity. But

703
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:51,719
until we have that body, I
can't say that with ontological certainty, can

704
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,039
I I just can't, right,
if I'm being honest, I can't say

705
00:55:55,079 --> 00:56:00,679
that. I mean, so's we
can't. If we can't at that body,

706
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,960
we don't. Until we have that, we're never going to be able

707
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,800
to start really drawing lines around the
phenomena to know what is the naturally occurring

708
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,920
biological stuff and what is genuinely this
other stuff that does exist and has been

709
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,239
here since the dawn of time.
I mean, I'm sorry, but the

710
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:21,719
wild Man mythology is in every culture
on the planet for a reason. And

711
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,880
I don't think it's because we all
just happen to have this, you know,

712
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:30,320
eat ergot, right, and so
we're all having the same hallucinations all

713
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,480
over time. It's because there's a
real phenomena and it is higher than just

714
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,360
though you know it's not. It's
more than just what the material stuff we

715
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,880
are. It is something much higher. And so until we can draw that

716
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,920
line around, well, what's the
actual biological big Foot and what's this other

717
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,719
stuff, We're gonna have this molding
and overlap in gray area that just makes

718
00:56:51,760 --> 00:57:00,599
this whole phenomena very difficult to really
suss out. It's desirable, at least

719
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:07,199
for me to find a level of
intellectual elegance when it comes to examining the

720
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:13,599
Bigfoot phenomenon or all of this phenomenon
or this phenomena. And I can't help

721
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:20,639
but think of Philip Class's curse,
the famous skeptic who wrote the Ufo Curse,

722
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,360
and it was basically said, to
the people who you know, detract

723
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,960
from me or attack me. I
cursed it in and I think he wrote

724
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,119
this back in the eighties. I
cursed that you're not going to know anymore,

725
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,800
you know, in forty years time
or something that you know today.

726
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,039
And that might have been the exact
timeline, but the gist was, you're

727
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,960
not going to know anymore. And
isn't that exact case with the UFOs.

728
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,519
We know nothing more about the flying
Source of phenomenon than we did nineteen forty

729
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:49,159
seven when it first became flying sources. It exists before that anyway, It

730
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:52,159
existed from time immemorial. And as
you talked about the wild man phenomenon,

731
00:57:53,000 --> 00:58:00,559
that's existed from Biblical times, from
the time of Gilgamesh, from the time

732
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:06,000
of the Sumarians, and it continues
today. There's not a body now and

733
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:08,519
I'll make a class prediction, not
a curse, because I don't wish it

734
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,360
will on anybody. There is never
going to be a big foot body found.

735
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:15,719
That's what I believe. I could
be wrong. I hope I'm proved

736
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:17,960
to be wrong. I'd love it
if tomorrow there was a big foot body

737
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,119
found. How much fun. There's
never going to be a big foot body

738
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:27,320
found in my lifetime or anybody's lifetime
who's watching this show. There's never going

739
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,639
to be a big foot shot and
haul the end, there's never going to

740
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,599
be found one discovered on a trail. There's never going to be one found.

741
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:38,320
Because these things aren't the way they
present themselves to us any more than

742
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,119
any of this stuff is what it
presents itself to us, our own cultural

743
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:47,199
contamination, our own expectations, perhaps
the way the phenomenon works. Perhaps it's

744
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,719
all psychological, Perhaps it's all sociological. Perhaps it's a combination. Perhaps there's

745
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,119
something else which we don't understand.
But people have been interested in UFOs since

746
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,280
the forties, or flying sources since
the forty These people have been interested in

747
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:07,000
bigfoot as a bigfoot since what the
fifties. Yeah, they're they're common.

748
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:14,199
They're common. Cultural interests, and
arguably it's harder to prove a UFO than

749
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:17,480
it is a bigfoot. Give give
me a thirty or six and you know,

750
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:21,320
a scope and a clear look at
a bigfoot, and I should be

751
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:27,079
able to prove the reality of bigfoot. And how many people have been in

752
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:31,679
that kind of experience as Fred Royle
was in this and still not being able

753
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:37,119
to bring home the bacon. So
the fact that we haven't done it since

754
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,079
the interest started seventy years ago in
America, I think it's a fairly safe

755
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,920
bet to say in the next seventy
years we're still not going to do it.

756
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,320
People have to look at this historically. People have been looking into this

757
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,039
stuff for seventy years. Right,
there's nothing. Occasionally there might be some

758
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,840
kind of but it's the same as
the fairies. The same way the goal

759
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,039
turns to dust. It's the same
way you get DNA analyzed and you go

760
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,760
like, well there seems to be
some human contamination or something. Is the

761
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,000
exact same thing, right, You
can say, well, I had something

762
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,840
in my pocket, Well it was
very gold, but now it's dust,

763
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,880
so it's proof. It's the same
as getting the DNA sample and going well,

764
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,719
we've got a sample, and there's
it says it's human, so maybe

765
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:17,920
it's kind of us. It's part
of some mythological trope, which I think

766
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,000
is more significant. I'm not dismissing
it. I think it says something inherently

767
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:28,239
about the nature of reality, inherently
about our belief system, inherently about our

768
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,679
psychology, inherently about our expectations.
It might be more important than they're really

769
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:36,719
being a physical bigfoot running around in
the woods. But as long as we're

770
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,840
so trapped into this physical expectation,
which let's be real, there's the nineteen

771
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,679
fifties, nobody in America's shot one. Come on, no again, it's

772
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:50,000
a it's a again. It's a
valid critique, and again one of the

773
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,280
brill Again, bringing back to the
film, I think one of my favorite

774
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,880
scenes is the fact that they do
talk about these other you know, the

775
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,719
devil monkeys and the other little people
lore in the same area, right,

776
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:04,760
I mean, I think that's a
value. I like the fact that this

777
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,480
film didn't shy away from that,
and it didn't shy away from from the

778
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:14,280
fact that that again, because I
can't remember names, Fred roll like they

779
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,800
flat out and said, look heat
shot center mass hit it three times,

780
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:22,079
it doesn't flinch. They did not
shy away from these elements of high strangeness

781
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,159
that are very much part of the
Lord, very much a part of the

782
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,559
of the of the of the story
and the writings of Bigfoot. So I

783
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:32,039
like that. I really do like
the fact they didn't hide from that in

784
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:37,800
this film. Also, my favorite
line in the entirety of the film is

785
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,920
the park ranger where they where he's
asked it's like, do you believe there's

786
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,079
a you know, like a government, governmental cover up? And his response

787
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:49,480
was, well, let me tell
you a story. I don't want to

788
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,360
go any further than that, because
honestly, y'all gotta go watch the film

789
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,360
and listen to that story, because
it's a great story, and I think

790
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,840
it's actually a lot closer to the
reality of you know, governmental cover up

791
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:06,440
on this stuff then necessarily a men
in black esque group running around and neuralizing

792
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,320
people who've shot and just cleaning up
the body. I think there is.

793
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,599
I think his story sort of alludes
to something I've talked about for a while,

794
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:16,159
which is more institutional we just don't
want to deal with this, so

795
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,239
don't talk about it, right it's
more of a it's less to cover up

796
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:22,920
and more of a we're just going
to look away, so we don't need

797
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,119
to deal with this, and you'd
be wise to do the same. Right

798
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:30,719
again, No, will Smith and
is not about to show up and take

799
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:36,559
away your your bigfoot body. But
you may be told not to report that

800
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:40,000
you saw something either. Can I
say something that makes that makes sense that

801
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:45,239
you don't even need a physical bigfoot
for that type of level low level conspiracy

802
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,639
to make sense. You're right when
you start talking about every we used to

803
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:51,840
just be UFOs where there was secret
government agencies like Man and Black. Now

804
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,920
it's dog man, now it's bigfoot, now it's everything. But to think

805
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:59,920
that a park that is to term, which needs, you know, tourist

806
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:04,280
to justify its funding, might want
not want to circulate the idea of their

807
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,559
being an aggressive bigfoot in the park
makes total sense. And that doesn't require

808
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:12,360
a physical animal that's a bigfoot by
the way, that just determined that.

809
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:16,039
All that says is that people are
having these type of experiences where they think

810
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:22,960
it's some physical animal. So I
don't think that detracts anything from anybody's position

811
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,599
here. Of course, when you
start to talk about government agents coming in

812
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,679
and whisking away bodies on helicopters.
You get to a whole New X Files

813
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:37,400
level of paranoia. And again it
becomes incredibly there's a lazyness to any type

814
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,239
of position that goes, well,
there's proof, but the government whisk it

815
01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:45,480
away every time. That's just like, that's just like a way of explaining

816
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:52,320
that there isn't proof. It's a
mythology for explaining the reality of another mythology.

817
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,400
And so I'm very reluctant to go
down that path. But you're right,

818
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,760
the park ranger in that his story, it makes total sense because I

819
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,800
do. Do you think people are
having genuine experiences? It's very suspicious that

820
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,199
they are what flesh and blood people
suggest that they are. But anyway,

821
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,280
people should watch this film. I
got, I got, we got sidetracked,

822
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,920
but particularly myself because this is one
of my pet issues, as you

823
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,840
know, and the physicality of Bigfoot
and when no one's been shot. But

824
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,079
the film addresses this, to be
honest, there's a conversation in there that

825
01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:24,280
addresses this. So people should check
it out. Like all small town monster

826
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,519
of stuff, it's always worth a
watch. Yeah, exactly, And again

827
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:30,239
as I've always As I've said for
a while, my favorite cryptid documentary of

828
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,760
all time is from Small Town Monsters. It's Tears and it's Tear in the

829
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,079
Sky. I think it's one of
the best ones ever made. Not just

830
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:41,679
them, I mean cryptid documentaries in
general. That's one of the best ones

831
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:45,199
ever made. Now that being said, go see this one. Go to

832
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:46,880
the small town because this is this
is not something you're going to see on

833
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,639
two be your Amazon. This is
on YouTube on the small Town Monster site.

834
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,639
Go get a watch it. You
will love it as much as we

835
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:59,679
have. And again, great work, guys. This is this belongs up

836
01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:04,800
there the echelons of Monster Quest,
Sightings, any of those shows that really

837
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:13,000
shaped in search of the shows that
shaped this genre. It's as good as

838
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:16,400
anything out there. So congratulations.
One quick thing, though, there was

839
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,599
a question asked at the beginning,
and I wanted to get to it before

840
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,280
we left. Ed Shall says,
I hope sometimes review the movie Third Eye

841
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,800
Spies. That is actually on our
list. I am not kidding when I

842
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,280
say this, that's his on our
list, and unfortunately just keeps getting pushed

843
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,599
back due to news and different things. So maybe let's do that one next

844
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,960
week, unless I don't think anything
else has popped up. Sure I didn't

845
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,239
see that, Ed, Thank you
for the suggestion. There was a lot.

846
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,559
There was a lot of action in
the comments tonight, which is wonderful.

847
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:47,719
Thank you too to everybody who comes
and watches and engages in the comments

848
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,480
section. If we ever miss it, it's just me and Jason driving it,

849
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:54,000
if I'm on a rant or if
he's on a rant or arguing,

850
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,519
we are likely to occasionally miss some
comments, but thank you to everybody who

851
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:00,639
is there. On Apologies to anybody
and we missed two had something in a

852
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:04,400
slight fool will say yes again,
there's only it's only the two of us

853
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:09,559
and y'all. Y'all are great.
Y'all really are, and y'all have some

854
01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:12,039
great comments, which is why we
try to get them as often as we

855
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:15,800
can. Unfortunately, sometimes we miss
things from time to time. But that

856
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:21,119
having been said, we will be
back next week and we will do and

857
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:24,199
you know what, let's two third
Eye Spies. So if y'all want to

858
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:27,480
go, it's free on two B
right now, go to two by watch

859
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:30,400
it and we can discuss it here
together because it's gonna be a great one.

860
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,639
Honestly, Psychic phenomena is one of
my favorites, is one of my

861
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:38,360
It's weird, IM. Everyone's like, aren't you a big Footer? I'm

862
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,199
like, I'm really not. I'm
really more into this other I'm really more

863
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:44,440
in this other stuff. I just
happened to be in the I found.

864
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,599
I have found myself in this bigfoot
realm oftentimes, so most people think I'm

865
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:53,440
a big Footers, Like, I'm
really not. Again, dinosaurs, you

866
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:58,800
know, for Benn archaeology, the
paranormal, supernatural from a prophetic standpoint,

867
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,719
Yeah, that's really more my I
thinks. So I'm really really looking forward

868
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,440
to this one. That's been on
our bucket list for a while, so

869
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,960
we will. We'll watch that for
next week. On that note, we

870
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:29,119
will catch all behind the behind the
Card catalog and we'll see y'all next week