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listening to Paranormal UK Radio and good evening everybody. Welcome to another edition of
the Paranormal UK Radio show, the flagship show here on the Paranormal UK Radio
Network. I'm Mark Johnson and once again I'm flying solo Tonight. Irene is
tied up with some family business, so but she promises to come back our
next show, so the gang will all be back together. I know I
haven't gotten us shows as often as i'd like. I'm working on that.
The whole month of May. We have guests booked every other week, So
we're going to try to keep on top of things. You know, this
has been a tough year for everyone medically and even home life. I'm dealing
with stuff right now too, selling my house and moving. It's actually it's
under contract right now, so by the end of June I should be relocated.
Still here in New Jersey for now and you know, moving forward with
life. What more can I say. So that's about all the exciting news
that I have to report. One of the things for tonight's guest is it's
a subject that I have been very interested in lately. It's something that I
followed, of course for years, but lately I've been more fascinated in the
subject. I think a lot for personal reasons and things that have happened in
my life. And I've been following a lot of near death experience stories on
YouTube and elsewhere, and there's always something different about each one. They're very
unique and yet there are some similarities. And here to talk to us tonight
about those similarities is our guest, Douglas Hodgson. Douglas is a former dean
and professor of law currently residing in Perth, Western Australia, and he undertook
postgraduate legal studies at the University of London before embarking on a thirty five career
in higher education in Canada, Australia and New Zealand as a teacher, researcher,
scholar, human rights advocate and university administrator. He also has a new
book that came out this year called Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil What Humanity
can Learn from the Near Death Experience and he's looked and culdated over five hundred
accounts of near death experiences and has a lot to say on this subject.
So, Douglas, welcome to the program. I'm very well Mark, and
thank you very much for having me on your show. Well, thank you
very much for coming on so early in the morning, your time. It's
quite all right. I'm always happy to talk about NDEs regardless of the hour.
Yeah, and you know what I was mentioning earlier before I introduced you,
it's a subject for whatever reason. I mean, I've always been fascinated
by indies, and yet lately the last several months I've really been getting into
a lot watching a lot of different YouTube channels there are where people narrate their
indes I've noticed a lot of commonalities and a lot of differences, and that's
something I'm interested in discussing with you. Sure, Now, what really brought
you into I mean, from your law background into the spiritual side and looking
into the near death experience. Well, I've always been a religious person,
Mark, I have an interest in comparative religion, and I wrote a book
on it last year. But about thirty years ago, I had the privilege
to read doctor Raymond Moody's book Life After Life as Oh, yeah, treatise
a classic. I read that years ago, indeed, and that triggered my
interest and curiosity in the NDE phenomenon. But it wasn't until I retired from
full time work at the end of twenty seventeen that one of the first books
I read in my retirement was a book by doctor Eben Alexander titled Proof of
Heaven in Neurosearch ands Journey into the Afterlife. Yes, and both books really
caught my interest. Doctor Alexander had a deep ND he was in a coma
for some seven days, and he wrote a book recounting his deep ND.
And on the basis of those two books, I wanted to learn much more
about the ND. So I looked at the website of the International Association for
Near Death Studies ian's is the acronym, and I began searching through their archives.
And they have written accounts of those people who have undergone an ND and
who have written about them. So I began reading some of them, and
some of them go back decades, and I started to detect commonalities about their
experiences, and particularly similarities in the messaging that they received when they were at
the veil, and so much so that I began taking notes of these similarities
or commonalities, and I ended up researching probably more than five hundred accounts written
accounts, and I made copious notes, And at that point I still wasn't
sure whether there was a book in it, but I recall reading a number
of accounts that said, basically that when they were at the veil and they
were communicating telepathically with the beings of light, they were told that their earthly
life was not yet finished. They had not finished their mission, and that
they must return to their bodies to complete their earthly life. And one of
the main missions was to impart to humanity for humanity's benefit. What divine knowledge
and revelations were imparted to them at the veil. So at that point the
penny dropped and I thought, well, I would like to be sort of
a humble spokesperson of these five hundred authors who have bothered to put their experiences
into writing and to collect all of these common experiences and messages together and produce
a book. So this is how spiritual revelations from Beyond the Veil came about
what's interesting, and again we'll go into it in more detail. As you
mentioned the people who have these experiences, many of them, you know,
they're told that it's not their time yet and they need to go back.
And one commonalty is I know that many of them come back kicking and screaming.
Absolutely they don't. It's so beautiful over there that they that they obviously
don't want to come back here. I can't say I don't. I can
blame them. Well, as one end the ear described in his accounts or
her account, the afterlife is beautiful beyond comprehension and description. And when they're
at the veil, they can glimpse to see what's on the other side,
different layers of heaven. And while at the veil it's a very intense emotional
experience. They experience a bliss, peace, euphoria, joy. They experience
God, the Light, the beings of light, the angels, the spirit
guides, and they are in such an emotional state of mind that they don't
want to return. But unfortunately for them, they have no choice. They
must return, and they found themselves back in their physical bodies. But once
they return to their bodies, they are never the same, almost without exceptional
The NDE authors report that they experienced profound life changes, and these life changes
endured. It wasn't like they had had a dream or a hallucination. Many
of them recall their experiences decades after they happened, and they recall every last
detail of their experience, and one of the main things that they say is
that they no longer feared death. In fact, one of the end of
Years said that once you've been to the veil and return to your physical body,
you will long for death. You will long to return to what they
call our real home, you know, the afterlife. And the other thing
that they commonly say is that what they learned, or what was revealed to
them at the veil told them how we are supposed to live our lives on
earth, what is important and what isn't important? And I think there's something,
there's a real lesson there for all of us. Really looking at many
of the accounts of near death experiences people have had, I mean, from
all different walks of life and under so many different circumstances, have had an
out of body and near death experience, from everything from car accidents to a
drug overdose to you know, a stroke or sometimes even I don't know how
to explain this. Sometimes it seems to generate spont spontaneously, without even any
type of bodily drama. It depends on the person, and you know,
one of the commonalities is that they all are able to suddenly see their body
or float above their body, and most of the time it's just passionately,
although a few times people are freaking out and saying, hey, everybody,
I'm here, I'm here, and nobody sees them or hear them. So
it's like a wide variety of course of people who've had this experiences under different
circumstances. Well, I recall that one end the year I described it this
way. They said that their soul or consciousness left their physical body and they
were looking down at their body on the operating table. And as you say,
they regard they were neutral and distant observers. They recognized their body,
but they didn't really care. It was really of no consequence. And typically
many of them are looking down, they're in a at the ceiling in a
room, looking down at their physical body. But then they enter what is
called a black velvety void, and they feel peace, a sense of peace
and warmth, and then suddenly they see a pin prick of light, and
slowly, but inexorably, their souls are drawn towards the pin prick of light,
and eventually the soul is traveling at very great speeds towards this light,
which is becoming larger and larger, until they reach the threshold, presumably the
threshold of heaven, and what they call some of them call it the veil.
It's like a barrier, it's like a fence, or a body of
water, like a stream or a pond, or a gateway or an archway.
And they are told by the beings of light that they cannot cross through
the veil because if they do, they will be unable to return to their
earthly bodies. So and when they reach the veil. Quite often they see
the humanoid forms. They're in soul form, but former acquaintances or friends or
close family members, some of them experience their spirit guides or their guardian angels,
but they cannot cross over and they must return to their bodies. So
those were the main commonalities that I identified in the process of leaving the body
and going towards the veil. But one ended year described death this way,
that death is human error or misunder standing. We never die. Our soul
consciousness is infinite and eternal, so when we die, it's only our physical
body. Of course, death is rather a transition. Our energy changes form.
We leave the earthly realm of lower vibrations and enter the world of spirit,
which is higher vibrations. And this end of year described physical death is
merely the separation of the soul or the consciousness from the physical body. And
as another end of year described, it's the severing of the heavenly umbilical cord
between the body and the soul or the consciousness. Okay, there's well a
couple of things I wanted to touch on. One was the commonality of the
void in the beginning, and you know, I mostly when I first started
hearing about NDEs, and there was the traditional stories of people talking about,
you know, seeing a light and going through the tunnel and coming out the
other side. But the black void is for me anyway, relatively a new
concept, and I find that very interesting. And even in this total blackness,
experiencers talk about that they'll still feel an overwhelming sense of love coming in
this total darkness, and then they'll see the pinprick of light in the distance,
and then they feel like they're rushing towards it, and that's where the
tunnel effect comes in. But I had never really heard to avoid until fairly
recently. Yes, you're right, Mark. The indie years commonly refer to
this black, velvety, silky void as feeling God's love. They're cocooned in
a sense of peace and warmth, which is really counterintuitive to what our earthly
experience would be. If we see blackness or darkness, it kind of freaks
us out, But not for the people who have left their physical body.
It's the opposite that they feel sort of a sense of peace and love and
warmth as a prelude to witnessing this pinprick of light and following it down.
This tunnel or a deep valley of darkness towards the light. Now, occasionally
I know that there have been some experiencers who are in this void and they
don't feel the love. In fact, they start having some interactions with some
very negative entities, almost like they're on the outskirts of hell or being dragged
to hell before they are able to lift it out and brought towards what we
referred to as heaven or the higher vibrations. Oh, have you experienced many
of those types of incidents in your research? Yes, indeed I have.
Mark. I should say that when I wrote my book, I was really
concentrating on NDEs which were positive in nature, which connected with the light and
God and the angels and the beings of light and the positive energy. But
I certainly did come across a number of what I would describe as dark energy
accounts. As a percentage over all of the accounts I studied, they would
be rather low, perhaps about five percent, But some of them had these
dark experiences, and I would surmise that they were for a higher purpose.
It was for the edification of the soul, and it could have been part
of the soul called life review. I don't know that speculation on my part,
but I divided these dark energy experiences into three separate categories based on the
limited number of accounts that I read. The first one is what I would
call a state of mind or a state of being, where the soul,
after having left the body, experiences only darkness in a complete absence of God
or the light. There is no presence of God or the light whatsoever.
They're in complete darkness, and they feel utterly alone in a dark void.
The second type of dark energy experience that I came across was one based on
sensory perception, so particularly sight and hearing. So one end of ear was
accompanied by a being of light, and they were presumably in Hell or one
of the layers of Hell, and they were shown a dark wall, and
on the wall there were humanoid body ease almost like cemented into this wall,
and the torso of the body was part of the wall, but the arms
and legs extended out of the wall in the face, and these humanoid forms
were in quite utter agony and anguish. They were being tormented. Another dark
energy experience based on sensory perception was that this end the ear, at least
their soul or the consciousness, again accompanied by being of light, was in
a very dark place of anguish, pain and torment, and the soul consciousness
was being enveloped or umbrellaed by the light of the angel or the being of
light, and the being of light told the soul consciousness telepathically that if they
ever stepped outside or moved outside of this light, they would remain in that
place forever. So that was two quite graphic instances of a dark energy based
on sensory perception. The third type of dark energy experience that I recall is
what I would call a transitional state. Hell being a transitional state, it's
like being caught between the earthly realm in the heavenly realms. So, as
one end of ear described it, he was by beings of light that at
the moment of death, when the soul leaves the body and has offered the
opportunity to go down the tunnel of light, that they refuse. It could
well be that the soul is too attached to something in the earthly realm.
It could be that they're too attached to a particular person, or they're too
attached to one of their pets or to a chattel that they'd treasure or to
their home, or for whatever reason, they refuse to go down the tunnel
of light. They cannot accept God's beauty, or they fear going down the
tunnel of light, so they are caught between dimensions. And it's interesting.
In the West, we would call that a ghost or a disembodied spirit,
and an Eastern Inner Asian culture is they would call them hungry ghosts. So
that's just a summary of the three types of negative dark energy experiences that I
didn't encounter, but they were relatively few and far between. Yes, that's
in most of the cases that I have reviewed. There are only a few
of those that get into that kind of darkness. And usually one of the
other things I've noticed is with most NDE accounts, they it's like they're having
similar experiences, and yet they're descriptions of where they are. The beings that
they meet or even you know, family that they meet is all under various
different circumstances, So it's not like one version of heaven or the afterlife or
the the what's the word I'm looking for the reality that they are in.
Everyone experiences it differently, and you had mentioned earlier about the fact that these
type of experiences, you know, and going over to that other side in
a lot of ways, is beyond our comprehension. So would that explain why
things are maybe so different because the human mind, in what it remembers,
how it translates the experience, is in such a way that person's able to
come back and relate that experience when in reality what they experience is beyond our
human language. Yes, you've raised some very good points there, Mark.
Many of the Indie ears say that they really cannot do justice to the richness
and meaning of their NDE. As one endi ear said, it's a bit
like trying to depict a magnificent sunset by drawing it in sand at the beach
with a stick. It just can't be done. That human language is just
too impoverished to convey what they really felt and experienced. And the other problem,
of course, is that we are operating from our earth bound or earthly
experience, which is quite finite in the vastness of the universe of the cosmos.
So the Indie Years, the authors are trying to convey to the readers
what they experienced, but they are hamstrung in terms of human language and their
restrictive earth bound experience. And I think the other factor that enters in here
is that we all have a lot of social cultural baggage, if I can
put it that way. We all have our own belief systems, or we
don't have belief systems. But one Endie year said that, and this is
confirmed in sacred scripture. There is just not one heaven. There are multiple
heavens. And if you look at Islam, in the Holy Qur'an, it
said that there are seven heavens. And if you look at the Jain religion
from India, they also believe in the concept of multiple or ascending heavens.
So, for example, you have some Indie years claiming that they saw what
they described as a Buddha like figure. Others claim that they see someone who
resembles an Indian Sawdu. Some Indie years who are from a Christian background claim
that they were speaking with Jesus Christ or Muslims would say that they met the
prophet Mohammad. So they are coming from these different perspectives, from these different
belief systems, from different continents, from different social and cultural perspectives. So
that may explain the differences that you're referring to But my task as an author
in writing spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil was to cut through those differences and
to focus on the commonalities of the messaging and the revelations that were revealed.
And it was quite astounding because I found that the messaging included what may be
found in religious or sacred scripture, but went far beyond it. The messaging
was transcendental in nature. Okay. One thing that's always struck me, And
it's interesting how you mentioned that there are multiple heavens or multiple levels of heaven,
which makes sense in the sense of vibrational realities and dimensions going from one
level and then advancing onto a next and the next. And also, as
you were saying about cultural impact towards people's perceptions, I wonder if sometimes it's
because of their going to slightly different variations of these heavens based on their own
perceptions, or is the experience tailor made for that person to whether if they're
a Christian they're going to meet Jesus, or even if they're I mean,
I've heard of agnostics, but they're Western agnostics who would still meet Jesus.
Why because they've been exposed to it, and I feel like sometimes when they
meet a religious figure, it's not This may sound heretical, but I don't
fully believe that what they're meeting and interacting with is Jesus per se, but
that is what is presented to them in order to best communicate to them and
get to the point for what they need to remember when they come back.
And if they meet a Jesus, they're Christian. They meet Jesus and Jesus
tells them something. Oh yeah, they're going to remember that when they come
back. Now, there are also many other experiencers who meet, as you
said, these beings of light, well, they meet angels, they meet
ascended masters. It all depends on the person and what is tailored for their
experience. What are your thoughts on that, you know, I actually haven't
thought about that mark, To be honest, I recall that in my research
or earthly mission, what we are supposed to do in life on Earth is
bespoke or tailor made. We each have a unique and tailored mission that we
must fulfill on Earth. But whether our near death experience is also tailor made
or bespoke, I really don't know. But that is a great question.
Many of the NDE authors didn't you didn't refer to specific profits or ascended masters.
They refer to beings of light or the light. Some authors said I
spoke with God or the life. I'm not sure. Others said that they
spoke to beings of lighter angels. Some said that they spoke to ascended masters.
But I really I don't have an answer to that issue, that question.
Rather that that may well be that they are given that that prophet as
a means of being comforted, as authenticating the messages or the revelations. That
could well be. But I don't recall in my experience of reading those five
hundred or so accounts of anyone addressing that that that matter afterwards. No,
okay, some of the experiences that people have. In fact, there are
people who have had multi NDEs in their lifetimes. They've gone crossed over a
couple of different times and had similar experiences when they've come back. I remember,
I don't know if you're familiar with Daniel Brinkley, but he had a
fairly famous story and he's written his experiences. He was very much a troublemaker
in life, kind of a badass, and two different times he was struck
by lightning and had a near death experience and brought him back. It really
took the second time for them to hit home to him to change his ways
and start becoming very much more spiritual and talking to people about his experiences.
But the multiple nd I find fascinating too, just because they can come over
more than once. It seems to me that there are situations where you know
one and done would be enough to give somebody the experience they needed, but
the obviously not. Well. It may be, as you say, that
they're reinforcing the message, or perhaps on the second and third occasions, they
are receiving further revelations and perhaps given the responsibility to return to their earthly bodies
to share with humanity what they experienced. Once again, I don't recall reading
any accounts of multiple MDE experiences that you refer to some but that is fascinating.
But I can only speculate that they're either didn't get it the first time,
or the light has further revelations to impart to this particular soul or consciousness,
and it's their mission to return and to share it for the benefit of
humanity. One common experience that most people who have indies go through is the
life review. And it doesn't matter whether somebody had an NDE as a child
with you know, very few years to have a life review, or whether
they're an older adult. They all almost without fail, almost every NDE account
I've ever heard of, they go through a life review. And the one
thing that especially in religion, some religions do this more than others, but
especially in Western religions and Christianity. You know, they talk about you being
judged for your actions and your life when you cross over, but most of
the experiencers talk about that the life review is not that you sit in judgment
by God whether or not you go to heaven or hell, but whether or
not you've accomplished what you came to do all the good and bad times,
and the only judges yourself. You judge yourself on everything that you have experienced,
every even an unkind word to somebody, and you feel how that other
person felt by what you did to them, so not only from your perspective,
but from their perspective as well, so you feel the whole everything.
But again it's the end result is you judge yourself and there's nothing but still
love and compassion coming to you. That's a very accurate summation of the experience
of the end of years mark these. The actual substance of the life review
is non judgmental and non condemnatory. As one end to year said that God
would judge and punish is a human construct. It's human error because God is
absolute unconditional love and is not capable of judging and punishing. We do it
ourselves. As you say, we are our own harshest critic. We are
not necessarily judging ourselves. We are excuse me, reflecting on our lifetime on
earth and evaluating it. And it's an instantaneous life review, almost in holographic
form. We are shown the main events in our lives, the times that
we manifested unconditional love to others. Sometimes we may not have realized it,
but we did. And we are shown the times that we were unkind to
others, not only in our deeds, but in what we didn't do,
or in what we said, or perhaps what we even thought. But it
is a process of self realization or enlightenment. And the soul consciousness does not
do this all on its own. It is assisted in that process by a
being of light which has been assigned by God to help with the life review
and the being of light will occasionally pause the life review and ask for the
reflections of the soul consciousness, particularly on how could you have handled that situation
differently? How could you have manifested more love and been more patient and forgiving,
et cetera, et cetera, exactly and again when they've come back,
it gives them a new perspective on how to move forward and living their lives.
Many of them do live their lives in a much more spiritual manner and
very more aware, much more aware of their actions and how and how they
behave towards people. Indeed, that they are full of certainty and proof of
the afterlife. Many of the indie accounts that I read in my research were
written by agnostics and atheists who do not believe in a God or the afterlife.
But afterwards, after they return to their physical body, they all said,
whether the religious or atheist, they all have certainty in proof of the
existence of an afterlife and of the existence of God and the heavenly realms.
And this was profoundly, profoundly life changing for them. They realized from their
life review that life is to be enjoyed. We are to learn lessons from
life, and of course we're going to encounter many challenges and struggles and problems
in our lifetime, but that's part of the process of living on Earth.
And as one end a year said, when you encounter significant challenges in your
life, welcome it as an opportunity to discern the particular lessons that you were
sent to learn to Earth to learn. So is this challenge or problem meant
to enlighten me on how I can be more forgiving or patient, or how
I should become a better listener? And this is important going forward. So
what did I do that was totally selfless rather than selfish? That's what unconditional
love is all about, manifesting love to others, including sentient beings, where
there's nothing in it for us. And as the end of Ear say,
consistently, what matters on Earth is regarded as insignificant, irrelevant, and superficial
in the higher realms, power, fame, material wealth, these things don't
matter. The position you occupied during your life doesn't matter. When you're having
your life review, well what does matter? It's the small kindnesses. One
end of ear during the life review was told by the being of Light that
it's the small kindnesses that prove to be the most profound manifestations of love that
are brought up during the life review. You know, if you feed a
stray cat and take it to an animal shelter for its protection, or you're
in a shopping center and you see an elderly person struggling with a shopping bag
and help them out. These to us on earth are relatively trivial actions,
but in the higher realms they are regarded as profound manifestations of love, and
those will be drawn to our attention during the life review. And it's also
i think important mark distress that when we show love to others, that has
a ripple effect. So if we make other people feel good about themselves,
they will experience love and joy and happiness, and they will in turn spread
that onto others. But conversely, if we are unkind to others, show
aggression or hatred or lack of consideration to others, they in turn will spread
that negative energy on to others and that ripples out to eternity. And one
of the main lessons of this so called life review is to get us to
be aware that when we exercise our free will, the gift of free will.
We must be very careful in the words we choose what we do or
do not do, even our thoughts, because they can have really significant implications
through this ripple effect, and we might not even foreseenness or realize that we
are exposing ourselves to harming or hurting others. So it is a real exercise
in empathy. During a life review. We become our victims. We become
the people that we showed love to or showed hostility to, and we get
to feel their feelings and emotions. And this is a part of the self
realization or enlightenment process. So, as you said, unlike Christianity or Judaism
or Islam, who tend to tell us that we are judged on a reward
punishment basis, we are not judged or condemned. We are assisted to realize
how we can become better, how we can evolve and progress our soul consciousness.
And it's an eternal process, moving slowly but inexorably towards communion with the
light. In some ways, it seems like, as you've said, slowly,
step by step, moving towards the light. And yet a lot of
the indie or experiencers. We'll talk about the fact that you know, time
is irrelevant. Time is a human construct. In fact, coming down for
an experience here on earth, you could live to eighty and it feels like
a very long eighty years, but it's a blink of an eye in terms
of a soul, you know, coming from the other dimensions into having a
human experience. To them when they go back, it was a blink of
an eye, even though down here it seems to really drag. And some
people look at all the experiences that they've gone through and if they feel their
go to be living a lot much longer and having to deal with more and
more things. I'll use myself as an example, and as I've told you
off air, especially the last year and a half, I've gone through incredible
experiences that were took a toll on me, and I really took an emotional
gut punch from it, from losing my wife, lost my job, got
COVID, then had a heart attack, and then had surgery. And it's
been one and damn thing after another. And there are days when I sit
there and think, oh God, I can't do this anymore. I don't
want to be here anymore. But yet there is like a lot of these
people who have had the ND experience, their time isn't done. Sent back
because their time isn't done, they haven't accomplished what they set out to do,
and a lot of what they're sent out to do is to live through
these experiences, even as crappy as they are, while we have to deal
with them here in the physical we have forgotten, or in most cases,
society has forgotten, the fact that we are spiritual beings having a human experience,
and even from the worst of things that happen to you, there are
lessons to be learned there. There's lessons for spiritual growth, lessons for maybe
more empathy for other people what they're going through, learning to take things more
in stride, less in worrying about the future and living for the moment,
and trying to be a better person instead of wallowing and self pity. What
are your thoughts on that? Yes, indeed, Mark, you've had an
incredible journey recently, and many of the End of Years said in their written
accounts that everything happens for a higher purpose. You know, the bad stuff
that happens in our lives as the buddhas said, all moments pass and you've
come through it. You alluded earlier on to the fact that time does not
exist in the higher realms, and I want to come back to that because
in my research, the end of years have said that the sole consciousness is
transcendental in nature, and by that they mean that when the soul leaves the
physical body, they are no longer bound by constraints of space and time.
And some of the end of years said that in the higher realms time does
not exist. It's nonlinear or non sequential, and this can be corroborated in
sacred scripture. I've written a book about this, that in the higher realms
God, for instance, in Hinduism, God is an absolute absolute in the
sense that God is above space and time. One of the end of years
said that in the higher realms a moment can seem like an eternity, in
an eternity like a moment. Another end of year said that in the higher
realms time does not operate as it does on Earth. In the higher realms
there is only the present or the present moment, and yet the present includes
the past, all that has gone before, in the future, all that
will ever happen, but all of that is happening simultaneously, and all possibilities
are happening simultaneously. So we are shown during the life review, if we
had made a different decision, what our lives would have been like. And
this is all very mind boggling, it's almost beyond human comprehension. But this
is another fallacious human construct that the End of Years speak about in their written
accounts, that on Earth we are used to time and space, but that's
an earthly illusion. When we are in the Higher realms, everything is happening
simultaneously. We've just forgotten about that because when we come to Earth, the
delete button is hit and we have collective amnesia, and we've forgotten all about
that. But doctor Eben Alexander raised a very interesting point which was corroborated by
one of the indie accounts that I read, and it's said basically that the
sole consciousness in the Higher realms can access any place or time on Earth.
All the soul has to do is think of a specific place on Earth,
a specific historical era, and they will be there. It's almost like a
time travel machine. So these indie accounts bring forth some remarkable material and some
of it is really hard to cope with, even beyond human comprehension. But
life is just a fleeting, transient illusion according to the Tibetan Book of the
Dead. And although our lives may drag slowly and we might encounter many challenges
and problems and trials, it's all for a higher purpose. We must have
faith that it is, and it is for the edification and evolution of the
soul consciousness. Very well said, and yes, I've found that in my
research as well. And again it's having this human experience which helps us on
our spiritual level as we go through our existence, both earthly and spiritually.
Now, Douglas, your book Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil What humanity can
learn from the near death experience? Now, where can people find your book?
It's available on Amazon or through my publisher, Old Books www dot old
books dot com. It's available on most most online retailers and also in Brooks
and Mortar bookshops. Fantastic. Well, thank you so much for coming onto
the program and talking. And I really recommend people to pick up this book
because it does go through a lot of great concepts and people any different experiences.
So again, thank you for coming on the program. Well, it's
been my pleasure, Mark, and thank you very much for having me.
It's been great to speak with you, and thank you everyone for tuning into
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