WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:14.759 Go be bait. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for 2 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.160 October twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.440 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game This Morning's Live 4 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.679 with Me Jeff grub Today, Allen wake will get out of bed for DLC 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.719 and New Game Plus, and Sony defends its PS plus price price hike. 6 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.200 But first, please join me and welcome me today's co host the Game Mess 7 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:36.039 Mornings. It's Jason Binelli. Everybody, Jason, how are you doing? 8 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.799 I am very very good. Beginning of the week was not great thanks to 9 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.439 my baseball team, but we have to recovered. We're over it. We're 10 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.200 done. We're all into football and of course games, plenty of games. 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.119 I want to get your opinion. Is the bank still the toughest place to 12 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.600 play? You think is a little bit of a chink in the armor there? 13 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.719 What? What do you think? Well, I mean the crowd was 14 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.600 not the reason for it. Sure, the team is what let us down. 15 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.680 They forgot how to hit. Pitching did its thing, but this high 16 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:11.319 powered offense just went went south. They forgot what small baseball is, and 17 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.280 Arizona made them pay. For it because every time Arizona got a guy on 18 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.200 first, he stole second, and the next batter or two he had scored 19 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.079 a roun, especially in that game seven, and it killed me, absolutely 20 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.879 killed me. Yeah, sorry, No, I'm just gonna I'm gonna finish 21 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.519 up your thought because I was gonna shift it over to my sports teams. 22 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.879 Yeah, it's not so much that they lost. If it was highly competitive 23 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.359 seven games, I'd have been fine with it. But as Ham sorrow so 24 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.840 casually reminds me in the chat, they choked. Yeah, flat out gave 25 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.359 it up. You don't go up two oho and three to two with the 26 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.920 last two games being in your home field, the impenetrable fortress, as you 27 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.280 said, and lose. You just don't. You just don't. Uh. 28 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.159 Yeah, it's rough. I saw a bunch of Phillies fans having a real 29 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.719 rough early part of this week. I'm glad. I'm glad you were recovering. 30 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.040 Hey, your football team is very good. I'll tell you what. 31 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:59.599 I was in a great place with sports like a week ago, and then 32 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:05.680 the Lions got demolished, just completely embarrassed, which was rough. The Red 33 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.240 Wings were doing really great, they're doing really well. And really they're still 34 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:12.400 outperforming expectations, so I should be happy, but I was like, I'm 35 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:14.639 waiting for the other shoot to drop. And of course then last night they 36 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.479 get beat four to one by a Winnipeg Jets team that's okay, not great. 37 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:23.080 And then and then of course the Michigan Wolverines. It's god. Yeah, 38 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.599 it's like, hey, they're cheaters, a bunch of cheaters, and 39 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:29.240 I'm listen, I'm not going to go in and defend sign stealing. But 40 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:30.719 I didn't care about it. When it was a team that's not my team, 41 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:34.439 the Patriots, I'm like, I don't care about this, so I 42 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.000 don't. I definitely don't care about it. When it's the Wolverines, just 43 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.560 fucking stop them if they can know what you're gonna do. But whatever, 44 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.800 so we'll see what that's gonna end up being. So yeah, it was 45 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.319 like top of the world. I was like, man, best sports city 46 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.280 in the world, Detroit, they got everything going for him. And then 47 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.919 I am paying for my Hubris now exactly. Just immediately down the tubes, 48 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.719 we'll say it's the Philly sports experience in a nutshell too. I can understand. 49 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.520 Listen, I'm not too worried about the Lions. They they got beat 50 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.400 up real bad. I think they're going to bounce back and be okay and 51 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.400 probably be able to make the playoffs. I always said if they win a 52 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:10.240 plaoff game, that is the goal for us. So we'll see. All 53 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.479 right, we got a lot going on. Let's explain what we do here 54 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.400 most weekdays. I Jeff grebelhelp Piecer game me life back together. That includes 55 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.639 breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. For all these 56 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.560 topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me 57 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.240 look smart. If you are watching live on Twitch welcome, You can always 58 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.439 listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for game Mes Mornings, 59 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.599 or find the RSS on Giant Bond dot com. You can also catch the 60 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:39.680 show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, 61 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.840 we have a lot to get into, so let's start the morning mess with 62 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:47.280 alan Wake two gets details for its expansions and new game plus. This is 63 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:53.159 from Cameron with Woolsley at Destructoid. Alan Wake two launches this week and develop 64 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:59.120 a Remedy Entertainment has detailed post launch content, including two expansions and new game 65 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.639 Plus mode. The first expansion, Night Springs, is reportedly arriving sometime in 66 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:06.919 spring twenty twenty four. Taking place in the eponymous fictional TV show, Night 67 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:11.599 Springs has you play as several familiar characters from the world of Alan, Wake, 68 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.840 Visions, and dreams. This is the other one. I believe fiction 69 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.399 is written and coming true. If fiction collapses and remains just words on a 70 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:23.959 page, yes, so this is like them trying to describe it. The 71 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.680 Lake House is the second. This is actually the second of the Allan Lake 72 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.720 two expansions to get detailed. There isn't currently a release window, but it 73 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.839 sounds like more of a continuation of the Bass game story. You once more 74 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:39.800 take on the roles of Alan and Saga in their own respective stories. I 75 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.800 haven't finished Allan Wike two. For the people that I have talked to, 76 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.920 they're very happy with what happened in there, so I don't get the sense 77 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.759 that this is like, oh, this will be the real ending. But 78 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.839 I also get the sense from Remedy and Sam Lake and the storytellers over there 79 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:56.040 that they always have more that they want to do with these characters. Sounds 80 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.360 like that this is going to be an exploration of that is someone who's into 81 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.240 DLCOR happy to hear that. Alan Wick, who's gonna have more anything more 82 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.399 from Remedy at this case? I will take it, you know, please, 83 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:09.560 sur may I have some more? They just I am just starting, 84 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.160 Allen Wake. I'm actually reviewing it for MMRPG dot com. Code came in 85 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.399 a little late for me. Plus this week Phillies Aw Wednesday, Flyers Thursday. 86 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:23.639 I've been around, so just getting into it a couple hours in and 87 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.399 I don't do horror well, so I'm really not sure how this is going 88 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.079 to go for me. It's spooky, but yeah, but this the fact 89 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.519 that they have these plans ready to go and they'll come out like they did. 90 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.120 It's very much like Control was, and Control was one of my favorite 91 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:41.879 games of that year twenty nineteen. I want to say, just absolutely phenomenal 92 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.839 storytelling and all that. I expect the same here, especially with all the 93 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:48.079 glowing reviews. And yes, I think it's a very bold decision that they're 94 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:53.839 recreating the two thousand and six Keanu Reeves, Sandra Bullock Romcom the Lakehouse in 95 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.360 the second DLC here. That's that's amazing and the fact that that actually that 96 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.920 that movie actually deals with time is very interesting. I may listen if any 97 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.519 video game developer could tackle that tough movie adaptation. It's gonna be Remedy, 98 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:12.519 that's true. The other thing, here's new game Plus is coming, and 99 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.399 then they said that'll it's not coming at launch, but they do suggest I'll 100 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.279 just read it. Remedy will release a new game Plus mode for allen Way 101 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.879 two after its launch. It sounds intriguing. The mode does the usual new 102 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.920 Game Plus thing and lets you take all your weapons and upgrades. That comes 103 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.079 with a classic Remedy twist. It changes the story by some unknown degree. 104 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.319 This is a trend in games, Jason, where developers so like, hey, 105 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.560 yeah, we're gonna include new game Plus. It's gonna come relatively soon 106 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.759 after we release the game or right at launch, and when you got when 107 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:42.319 you hop into there, it's not just gonna be the same game again. 108 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.399 We will be shifting things up and clearly, I think at this point we 109 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.639 can we can credit most of the most of this to Neu Automata being such 110 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:54.240 a success, being kind of influential at this point, and then a lot 111 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.079 of games taking this and doing a lot of fun stuff with this. Just 112 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.959 this year it was Armored Core six Starfield and now this will have New Game 113 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.800 Plus modes that are a little bit they're like New Game Plus Plus. They're 114 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.560 a little bit more than what you would even expect from traditional New Game Plus. 115 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:10.439 I love this. Not someone who's spent a lot of time with New 116 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.160 Game Pluses, but I I started playing the Armor Corps six one and immediately 117 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:15.399 was just kind of like, yeah, I'm gonna keep going with this. 118 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.439 And I only got a little bit of the stuff that was kind of changed 119 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.959 up a little bit, and obviously you could do the different choices later in 120 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:26.240 the game. But yeah, I'm a huge fan of this, especially in 121 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.480 a day when it seems like, yeah, there's a million games come out, 122 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.120 and at the same time a lot of people are just sticking with their 123 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.360 favorite games and playing them over and over again. So this is great for 124 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.160 them, right, Yes, I agree, And I'm not a New Game 125 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.759 Plus guy myself. Usually once I'm done the game, I'm done the game. 126 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:45.240 But if they're going to start putting narrative elements or other expansions to the 127 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.399 full normal experience into New Game Plus, I think that may change in the 128 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.240 very near future. I love this idea. I'm right there with you. 129 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.319 It actually makes it seem like New Game Plus yes, or it was just 130 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.240 yeah, you get to blow through the same game you already played. Now 131 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.439 they're actually adding things to your second playthrough to increase that playability, to make 132 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.879 you want more. And especially in this case, if there's narrative changes with 133 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:11.920 the with the the way that Remedy tells their story, it's going to be 134 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.079 you know, little lore bits here and there. People by dissecting scenes for 135 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.720 months, gimme, gimme, gimmey. I'm all about it. Yep. 136 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.199 I every little thing I hear about Allen way too on top of like what 137 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.040 I've played of it, just like, man, got to get more and 138 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.879 more of this. They are doing some cool stuff. The the teases of 139 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.759 hey, they're going to get pretty meta and here's how it's gonna happen. 140 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.279 I'm like, okay, I got to see that for myself. Uh So, 141 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.759 if they continue to play around with those things in New Game Plus, 142 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:43.639 that's excellent. This game does seem like Remedy is stepping up to the play 143 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.799 and really hitting it right where where they they've had that they've had their chances 144 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.080 in the past, and I think Alan Wake originally was them like, Hey, 145 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.039 we're going to establish ourselves as more than just a max pain people, 146 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.720 and we're going to be able to show our show off our strengths and and 147 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.200 and and show that we have our own sort of voice in this space. 148 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:05.000 And I think all that stuff worked. But you know, since then, 149 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.720 it's been it's quantum break going to work. And obviously control is like controls 150 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.399 well, I was surprising. And now to have control and this sort of 151 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.759 string together not just hits, but like them once again establishing that their voice 152 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.679 isn't just oh it's interesting, it's sort of vital as like we need this 153 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.720 in gaming. I think they are completely a They're set up as a triple 154 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.200 A studio going in the future, and they're going to be one that you 155 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.279 cannot ignore going forward, right, Yes, And I think it goes back 156 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.000 to confidence, right. They have confidence in their vision and they have confidence 157 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.679 in how they're going to show you that vision. Sometimes it doesn't work to 158 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.720 their full what they thought was their full potential Quantum breaks your example there, 159 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.559 and sometimes they they're they're the only ones that know that it's going to you 160 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.519 know, Wow, the world when it comes out as this control here, 161 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.720 both of those things sort of aligned and its meaning and exceeding expectations, and 162 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.759 as you said, they are in the driver's seat now. It still boggles 163 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.679 my mind that someone pointed this out in GameSpot chat a couple of days ago, 164 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.720 that this game doesn't exist and I'm sorry to say this to those who 165 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.840 don't like it without Fortnite money. Yeah, that Fortnite money gets them to 166 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.799 fund this game. And now we're talking about it as a potential Game of 167 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.080 the Year contender in a year that is more loaded than any year that I 168 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.799 can remember as far as Game of the Year contenders are concerned. It's amazing 169 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.679 and I hope that this, hopefully, this success of this will allow them 170 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.000 to start maybe self publishing, and they could become the next Larryon where they 171 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.519 make their own stuff, they publish their own stuff, and it just knocks 172 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.600 people away. Yeah. Epic definitely deeply involved in this game. That's why 173 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.720 it's exclusive on PC to the Epic Game Store. And I think this is 174 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.360 the ideal scenario for what Epic should have been doing with that money all along. 175 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.759 Now I get that when they were trying to get exclusives to the Epic 176 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.519 Game Store. It's like they you can't just wake up one day but like, 177 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.039 all right, we're publishing some games. It's like, oh, you 178 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.919 got to ease into that. But it's like from the beginning they probably should 179 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.279 have been trying to ease into a bit quicker, because it took him a 180 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:00.519 couple of years to get to the point where like, all right, yeah, 181 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.039 we're paying to keep games off Steam. What if we just actually took 182 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.159 that money and shifted it earlier in the process and enabled developers to make games 183 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.799 otherwise wouldn't be able to create, And that its is up here. And 184 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.480 now it's like, instead of looking like kind of petty and trying to keep 185 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.639 something off a store just to give yourself a little bit of an advantage, 186 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.679 now they look like straight up good guys and backing up a creative studio to 187 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.879 stretch their legs and really do something special and have a potential game of the 188 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.519 year on your hands. Like that is completely different, and I'm like, 189 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.919 yeah, this is the way it should be done. I always had criticisms 190 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.840 of how Epic was handling that stuff. They were minor criticisms. I wasn't 191 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.039 gonna freak out about a game being on at the game store exclusively. But 192 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.240 when they shifted to this model, I was like, no, bravo, 193 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:46.600 this is right. No notes, you should listen to work with these awesome 194 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.360 studios that are out there that have kind of big budgets that they need and 195 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.960 you have a lot of money. That's a perfect pairing. Let's make it 196 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.320 happen. So just kind of like win win scenario for everyone involved here. 197 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.559 Now, I don't know how much Allen Wake two is going to move people 198 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.679 to to Epic Game Store, but as it gets more accolades and is maybe 199 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:05.240 considered for Game of the Year and shows up with the Kiwis or something, 200 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.679 that does help it more and more. And we saw like it Takes two 201 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.480 right, sold seven million copies kind of you know, it was doing well, 202 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.080 and then it got Game of the Year and so even better, like 203 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.919 this game could easily get five to ten million copies sold, and then if 204 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.000 it becomes like this golden child of the horror genre, that scene is massive, 205 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.480 it could get into like you know, easily above ten million copies. 206 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.840 So we'll see. I'm pulling for it because I really liked what I've played 207 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.440 so far. Yeah, and I like, like I said, I like 208 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.799 that Remedy is able to now maybe step into their own and who knows what 209 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:43.440 other new franchises they may include in this new connected universe that they're establishing. 210 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.600 They may pull a fast one and like not let us kind of do like 211 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.679 the Phantom Pain reveal thing where we don't know it's a Remedy game. Yeah, 212 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.080 so you know, Oh, I can't wait. Yes, that's the 213 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.559 sky's the little bit. They're working on a lot of games, and Remembery're 214 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.879 like going like we now, I only like two got announced. It was 215 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.879 like, aren't you making like four or five others as well? And they 216 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.440 still are, so a lot of that stuff could get tied in. We'll 217 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.320 see. I'm curious and excited to see what happens next with that studio. 218 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.919 Sony defends PS plus price hike explains why it won't put games there day one. 219 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.000 This comes from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot, A top PlayStation boss has spoken 220 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.759 out to defend the recent PlayStation Plus price increase and explains why the company does 221 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.159 not bring its games to PlayStation Plus at launch like Microsoft does through Xbox Game 222 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.759 Pass. Speaking of barons, which is like a financial news source everybody. 223 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:37.159 PlayStation Senior vice president Eric Limpel was asked to justify the recent PS plus price 224 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.840 increase, which saw the premium tier go up to go up by forty dollars. 225 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.919 Limp Pell said, like practically everything else in the world, we have 226 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.399 to look at our pricing and we have to adjust to market conditions. We 227 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.720 want to make PlayStation Plus great. With our reboot last year and introducing the 228 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.200 tier system, a lot of consumers have recognized that there's a lot of value 229 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.840 in PlayStation five. Limpell further stated that Sony had not previously raised prices for 230 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.679 eighty five percent of the world in many years, which is a constant from 231 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.080 other subscription services that regularly raise prices. Sony previously raised PS plus prices in 232 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.039 twenty seventeen. The new PS plus price increases were announced in August this year, 233 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.639 and I think everyone's kind of familiar with how those tiers worked out for 234 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.559 this first bit. I think we recognized this, but I do find it 235 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.279 interesting that, like it has, it's not that recent. This happened a 236 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.399 while ago, right these this price increases like a couple of months ago at 237 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.320 this point, at least in my head, it was maybe it's just for 238 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.720 the links summertime, right, That's what I thought, and kind of still 239 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.679 needed to be out there and defending it. It's a little bit interesting, 240 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:43.039 but I suppose this is an interview with a source that's like, oh, 241 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.480 we talked to you guys like once a year or something like that. This 242 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.519 is a you know, the big questions. I do think that the price 243 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:58.320 sort of a prospect of PlayStation Plus. Man's a lot of peace is it 244 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.600 has been questionable when they raised the I think people were considered. I think 245 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.960 I cancel and not cancer. I don't have it right now. I'll get 246 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.240 back into it if I need to play an online game, or if suddenly 247 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:11.960 the subscription games start looking really good again. But overall, it doesn't seem 248 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.360 like it's hurt Sony too much. Right. Yeah, they're in a position 249 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.039 where maybe they do have to defend themselves a little bit, But most people 250 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.200 are saying, I bought a PS five, why wouldn't I have PS plus? 251 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.399 Right? Right? No, I agree with you, and you'll always 252 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:26.320 have those loyalists who are just going to support them in everything that they do, 253 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.360 especially like you said that people are buying the PS five. It does 254 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.440 offer a substantial amount of value, especially in those upper tiers with older games 255 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:41.519 and stuff like that. But I still do not understand why this was necessary, 256 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.200 especially and we'll get into the second half of this in a minute. 257 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:48.440 That second half is a huge caveat as to what they is why this will 258 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:56.159 always seem inferior to xboxes offering. Xbox does the day one thing, and 259 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.559 as long as Sony continues to say no, they're not going to do that, 260 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.080 that's going to be a problem for them, at least in optics. 261 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:07.559 And they also I feel like they still need to expand their retro library a 262 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.200 little bit more. The PS one PS two stuff is great, and that's 263 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.320 the top tiers. That's the most expensive tiers is where you get those classic 264 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.879 games, and it's it's slim slim pickens, the slim pickens. There's a 265 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:21.679 couple of heavy hitters in there that still I think still need to show up 266 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.000 before that becomes like essential. But right now, yeah, I still don't 267 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.360 see it. I didn't cancel it, but I still don't see why it's 268 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:33.360 necessarily Yeah, and I think, yeah, so we got you know, 269 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.679 the essentials, then we have extra I think I can never remember the name 270 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.600 of the tiers. And then the top one has is the most expensive, 271 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.399 like eighteen dollars a month or something like that. You could pay yearly save 272 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.080 a little bit, but it was a pretty big increase is there as well, 273 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.279 and that's where you get the classic retro games. And it's just that 274 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:55.480 even like before the price increase, that always looked like a weird positioning of 275 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.399 the product, and now with the price increas it was very easy to be 276 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.960 like, oh, I know what you've been doing with this top tier, 277 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.799 I'm just gonna pull back to the second tier. I think a lot of 278 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.799 people probably ended up doing exactly that, because on the second tier you do 279 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.759 get a lot of relatively new games that are still pretty expensive, and you 280 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.599 get them in big bunches, all added to that PS plus service. So 281 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.480 yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I think for a lot of 282 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.240 people who are buying a couple of games per year, you know, you're 283 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:25.440 buying your Call of Duty, your MBA's and maybe one other game that like 284 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:29.440 the marketing really hits you or something. But if you have PS plus extra, 285 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.440 then you can like, Okay, well I missed this stuff from last 286 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:33.559 year. I can catch up, and I think it does work for a 287 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:40.599 large number of people, but I think overall, Sony's messaging on this wasn't 288 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:44.599 clear, and I think it's because the way that they have they are offering 289 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.640 up it isn't very good at least once you get to that top tier. 290 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.480 So they're kind of just like, you know, we would try to convince 291 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.559 you go up there, but really, here's a bunch of cool games in 292 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.680 this middle tier. Just go there if you want, Yeah, go ahead. 293 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.839 Yeah. And I think that, like I said before, the retro 294 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.960 is not enough. And also too, there's something to be said about people 295 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.160 who don't want an infinite backlog, right, so people who they just want 296 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.960 to play their games and that's it, and even that might pull them away 297 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.000 from that middle tier and just go to the essential tier after this price hike, 298 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.759 because they're like, look, I'm not playing these games as much as 299 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.079 I want to. They're just sitting there in my library or sitting there in 300 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.240 the PS plus menu for me to look at, but I'm not taking advantage 301 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:26.759 of it. So why when I'm already playing games, if I'm at the 302 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.960 front of the line with new twenty twenty three titles, why am I even 303 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.200 worrying about things that I haven't played a couple of years ago and I still't 304 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.279 have time for. So I wouldn't be surprised if we hear that a lot 305 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:40.400 of people shifted downward both steps yep, if maybe just one yep, and 306 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.039 then you still need PlayStation Plus of some variety to play online. So that's 307 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:45.240 going to get a lot of people through Call of Duty and stuff like that. 308 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.640 That's honestly still the biggest probably mover and shaker for the whole subscription service, 309 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:52.400 which is why they were so worried about Call of Duty. But that 310 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.319 entire time that Microsoft is acquiring Activision. Okay, this continues here. Also 311 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.720 in the Baron's interview, limp Pell was for his thoughts on Xbox Game Pass 312 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.039 and specifically how the company launches its first party games into the catalog. Sony 313 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.319 does not do this with PlayStation Plus. Limpel said PlayStation Plus is very different 314 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.440 from game Pass, but he wouldn't be drawn into talking about launching first party 315 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:17.119 PlayStation games on PS plus. It comes down to what you're going to get 316 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.839 in the service in terms of the type of game and the quality of games. 317 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.720 I can't comment on what the competition is doing. But with us, 318 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.759 we feel we're offering a great curated catalog of games as well as other features 319 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.640 and services With PlayStation Plus. It's a very different offering, but it's one 320 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.079 that resonated with consumers. Since we introduced the tiers, we've seen a third 321 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.240 of PS plus user base opt for the upper two tiers, which was more 322 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.160 than we had expected in twenty twenty two than this is no no longer the 323 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.799 quote in twenty twenty two, outgoing PlayStation boss Jim Ryan said Sony does not 324 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.440 put new games of PS plus because the virtuous cycle of investment that leads to 325 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:53.440 commercial payoff would be significantly derailed if Sony were to take that approach. And 326 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.559 we know, we know that, like trying to make the math works can 327 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.559 get fuzzy once you start putting stuff in there. But that's not our problem, 328 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.759 right. We look at the offerings here and when we see it, 329 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.240 hey, this does look pretty weird compared to what Xbox is doing. And 330 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:11.000 yet I do go back to I don't think necessarily most people are looking at 331 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:11.839 that way. I think they even if you have both constoles, you have 332 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.960 a primary console for a lot of people that probably is going to be PlayStation 333 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.079 and they've been happy to buy those big games like this year. Like if 334 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:23.079 you were a PlayStation five owner and I'm primarily playing on the PlayStation five, 335 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.200 you maybe you got your third party games there, but you're waiting for that 336 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.960 big Sony release and there hasn't been a ton of those this year. Now 337 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.240 you get Spider Man and that's one seventy dollars payment. I most people are 338 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:37.440 probably fine with that. And as long as that that like momentum continues to 339 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.680 carry I don't see Sony shifting things up too much, even if it does 340 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.240 look weird to us from the outside. When we do is side by side 341 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.839 comparison, what do you think? Yeah, I think, being you know, 342 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:52.000 so ingrained into the industry as we are, we forget about those people 343 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.680 who only buy one or two games a year, so they're only buying the 344 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:56.680 first party, they're only buy in the sports games. So when we sit 345 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.119 here and think, well, why aren't they doing exactly what Xbox is doing 346 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.000 and offering it to everyone day one, some people just aren't subscribed, or 347 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.440 they're only subscribed for the online tier, so they wouldn't benefit from that anyway, 348 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.200 right, And they don't think it's as much of a worthy investment or 349 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.559 virtuous cycle here. As Jim Ryan said, probably right out of a Metal 350 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:22.000 Gear Solid Delta presentation. But yeah, so I get where they're coming from. 351 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.519 But also again, as I said before, optics do not look good. 352 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:32.000 And these quotes right here sound to me like Sony is treating first Party 353 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.440 Games Day one on PlayStation Plus as a giant red break glass in case of 354 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.920 emergency button like we used to create Square did with Square Inox, like we 355 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:44.480 like you find it among us the big emergency meeting. And when they're ready 356 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:48.680 or when they think they have to, then they'll say this first party game 357 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.599 is coming to PS day A PS plus day one, and it won't be 358 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.000 a top tier like triple quadruple a game like a Spider Man two never had 359 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.960 a chance, or a new God of War for exam Raging that had a 360 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.599 chance. They may do it with like the next Uh what was it, 361 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.359 Destruction All Stars? Destruction of Stars? Yeah, yeah, something like that, 362 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:12.319 like a second tier maybe like a like a even like an indie published 363 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.359 sort of idea. This will be on PS plus day one. Uh, 364 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.240 it's technically first party, but it's not that sort of thing, just to 365 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.119 test the waters and see how many people are actually downloading it, and then 366 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.400 if they find it worthy, then the little bit of the floodgates. But 367 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.960 I think it's not happening anytime soon. Yeah, I think you're I think 368 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.480 live service games are are are gonna happen relatively soon. Maybe not like right 369 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.160 away, but then like the next tier up, like the thing between the 370 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.839 things that benefit from having everyone playing and have a lot of micro transactions and 371 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:45.119 free to play commerce stuff built in, and then and then God who are 372 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.759 at the top, like they have a couple of games in between there, 373 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.160 Maybe some of those start sneaking in on day one. I think for the 374 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:53.920 most part though, they're gonna be happy to just like the live service games 375 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.200 make a ton of sense obviously, like Rocket League, go back to that 376 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:02.519 debuted on PS plus and that and it fitted greatly from that. Sony knows 377 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.880 that they see those numbers, they were deeply involved in that. They may 378 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.839 be like, Okay, when it's time to start launching our live service games, 379 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.559 we are gonna be on top of that for sure. But yes, 380 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.920 God War Spider Man still no still know and probably and probably not till like 381 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.000 the next system, if at all, because for them, like the having 382 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:25.880 the subscription numbers very binishful beneficial to smoothing over the transition from one system to 383 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.119 another. And if they feel the need to like, that's when they might 384 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:30.559 need to like break the glass because otherwise I don't see them being in that 385 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.519 situation. Now. What they could do too, also is they have their 386 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.480 live service games. If you just have the Essential, you can play online. 387 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:40.000 They're free to play, but you don't get anything the next tier. 388 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.599 If you're on Extra Tier or Premium tier, you get extra content right up, 389 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:48.759 whether it's micro transaction currency or extra skins, extra whatever. And they 390 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.720 could tear it that way. That would encourage people who think if they maybe 391 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:53.920 they try it in the Essential tier and they're like, Okay, yeah, 392 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.319 this is bad ass, I'm gonna play this for a long time, then 393 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.559 maybe they decide to bump up the PS plus for that extra medx. If 394 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.839 they're a whales or or easily influenced like I am every time Forte sails and 395 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.960 I'm running around Jack Skellington, I will admit it. But I can see 396 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.599 the strategy here. The strategy does sort of make sense, but to the 397 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:21.000 most diehard of fans. The Optics next to Xbox putting Starfield on their Day 398 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.319 one are just not going to compare until they decide to make that change. 399 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:29.400 Yep, all right, But we can also see why Sony maybe is making 400 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.079 some of these decisions because they feel pretty confident because it is expecting one of 401 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.799 its strongest seasons ever in terms of console sales. This is from Tom Iban 402 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:41.359 at VGC. Sony Interactive Entertainment is expecting one of its strongest seasons ever for 403 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.799 the PlayStation console sales this holiday. That's according to SIE Senior vice president and 404 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.160 head of global Marketing, Eric Limpel, who told Barons via reset Era that 405 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.279 this will be the first Christmas shopping season that anyone who wants to buy PS 406 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.880 five will be able to find one. Our outlook on PlayStation five is really 407 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.000 strong, he said. We're expecting one of the strongest seasons in our history 408 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.559 in terms of console sales. It's a combination of the great product we have 409 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.000 and the titles that have released since launch, as well as the most recently 410 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.000 with Marvel's Spider Man two. Basically, they are saying, hey, the 411 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.920 consoles and strong supply. We have tons of supply, and we have a 412 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.240 bunch of good games built up, and it's Spider Man two is one of 413 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.319 the biggest things releasing in the world. And all that's true and very likely 414 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.720 that this this is gonna work out exactly as they're expecting. That's you know 415 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.279 how the the console generations typically don't go anyhow where as you're about, this 416 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.039 is gonna this should be one of the biggest seasons ever for PlayStation five, 417 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.000 even like once we get to the end of generation, look back. Next 418 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:38.160 year will probably be even bigger. That's usually how it goes. You know, 419 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.759 three years in it it's still growing. Four years in, it's still 420 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.799 growing. Maybe starts a trail off after eight year five, probably not anymore 421 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.359 because these days the console generations are even longer. So yeah, this should 422 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:53.400 all line up, and this should put the PS five well back onto that 423 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:59.759 train of outpacing the PS four and being the fastest selling PlayStation console of all 424 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.559 time. So yeah, that explains a lot of their decision making. Right, 425 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.240 if you have something that's selling like this, you can be more restrained 426 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.559 with the things that you're that you're doing to get people entangled in other ways 427 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.400 of pain, right, Yeah, And you know, first of all, 428 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.839 it's about time, right, three years it took them to finally get where 429 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.400 they want to be. Anybody who can get one can get one. The 430 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.680 bundles will help, the new slimmer model will help. I think as well. 431 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.880 Yeah, yeah, I think they're in it. They are in a 432 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.680 good position. And there are even like some things that were out of their 433 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:32.079 control that are tipping in their favor. I think of Balder's Gate three. 434 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.079 It's only on one home console right now because of whatever's going on on the 435 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.640 Xbox side. You can only play that on a console on PlayStation five. 436 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:42.240 So someone who's an RPG fan or a D and D fan is who's making 437 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.920 that decision about consoles this year. That may sway them to PlayStation five. 438 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.960 And that's an an unforced ero on Xbox part, as I understand them. 439 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.160 So they have sweater Man two, which just came out, the games that 440 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.480 have already come out so far. Horizon is very good, God of War 441 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.640 is very good. People who have waited on them now be able to get 442 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.799 them cheaper, or they get Spider Man two in a bundle and then get 443 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.559 those games later on. Uh. There are a couple of things we have 444 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.519 not talked about yet. Two letters in particular, we'll get into that's an 445 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:15.279 interesting little question mark. But so far, Yeah, I think I think 446 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.759 this is their go. They're getting on pace, as you said, to 447 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:23.519 out sell PS four and this and next year will kind of cement that as 448 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:30.319 what's going to happen. Yep. I think this also says to me that, 449 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.680 hey, that that PlayStation plus Slim, there's gonna be a ton of 450 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.079 those, because the idea is the PlayStation of five Slim is supposed to replace 451 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.519 the original model for yeah, both physical and digital right eventually as it phases 452 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.519 out. I guess that maybe that maybe that's a bigger reason why they'll have 453 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.519 plenty because they're gonna have all the previous supply as well as its new supply 454 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.799 coming in at the same time. But my guess here is no, the 455 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.920 PS five SLAM probably much easier to produce, and they I've been, you 456 00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.559 know, running those machines NonStop, so it should be good to go. 457 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:02.920 And yeah, like you says, anyone who wants one should be able to 458 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.240 find one, and that's that will be very different even than last year where 459 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.839 things started to get better, But really was this year that things finally settled 460 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.680 down fully and now you can walk into a store and see these things on 461 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:17.119 shelves and which I've seen multiple times now. Yeah. Yeah, And I 462 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:22.519 feel like I've heard less even already this holiday see early holiday season of people 463 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.200 not being able to get consoles that I ever have in the last three years 464 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.480 since PS five has come out. Yeah, I don't think I've seen anybody 465 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.559 yet, which is pretty cool. I think we are fully on the other 466 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.920 side of that. That's what it seems like. All Right, We're gonna 467 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.559 take a quick break. When we get back, we've got a lot more 468 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.519 news. We'll talk about what's happening maybe with Dragon Quest. We'll see what 469 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.319 Nintendo has to say about why it's so quiet about that Mario voice actor stuff. 470 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:56.400 All after this and we're back and we're talking about dragon Quest. Announcement 471 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.319 could be imminent. This is from my Nintendo News. The dragon Quest has 472 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.200 a number of games up their sleeves, but the one we are waiting for 473 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.200 is the next mainline dragon Quest video game, dragon Quest twelve. The Flames 474 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.160 of Fate JOYCESK Sito, the producer behind dragon Quest eleven, s echoes of 475 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.599 an elusive age as tas fans on social media platform Twitter by saying that this 476 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:21.480 has that his team had a super fun recording session today and that it was 477 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.400 a long one. He concluded by saying that he will let us know more 478 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.160 once it is okay to share a full announcement, so we will have to 479 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.279 wait a little longer to see which Dragon Quest game the announcement is for. 480 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.039 We had a fun recording session at work. It was a long one, 481 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:34.599 but it was fun. I'll let you know when I get the okay to 482 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.680 make the announcements. People have been expecting Dragon Quest twelve news for a while 483 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.519 now. Probably not gonna happen before the end of this year, but could 484 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.640 happen very soon, and this game could be out relatively quickly after that. 485 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.279 I'm thinking probably by the end of next year. Are you a dragon Quest 486 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.000 fan? Is this news excite you? I appreciated dragon Quests in the past. 487 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.240 DS was like my dragon Quest era, sure, that's when I played 488 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:03.079 good games on there. In particular five was very very good. I do 489 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.240 think, though, that I don't see this game coming out until holiday of 490 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.119 next year, if only because Square Nix doesn't want to cannibalize its other huge 491 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.240 release coming out early. Now, maybe you see a quick tease at the 492 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.480 Achilles, or maybe you see a quick teas at a state of play early 493 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.000 in the year, like a February January area. But I wouldn't expect a 494 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:29.319 huge like reveal on this until maybe Summer Game Fest or sometime in the summer 495 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.119 and then leading into a holiday release in that sense. But yes, more 496 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.440 core dragon Quest games are always good, just to see how they change up 497 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.680 their own formula. A lot of people see them and think they're all like 498 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.240 just normal, not normal standard JRPGs, But I've always thought they had a 499 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:49.359 lot of special things going for them. Have not played eleven yet. That's 500 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.279 very much on my ever growing backlog. That's what I do want to get 501 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.240 into. I had it on game Pass, but I think it went away, 502 00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.559 so I missed the boat there. But yeah, more dragon Quest is 503 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.559 always good. So I have to say I always love when producers and you 504 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.759 know, even voice actors are allowed to make little teas yeah, just to 505 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.720 rekindle the flames, say yeah, we're working on it, Like yeah, 506 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.240 if you wanted something to talk about, yeah, here's a little something that's 507 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.319 good. Yeah, because silence sucks, right, you hear about this game 508 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.400 and all of a sudden, it's all thrown in your face. Just some 509 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.880 breadcrumbs would be nice once in a while, and dragon Quest fans seem to 510 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.720 have one that's very nice. I do wonder if saying it's a recording session, 511 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.160 maybe that implies that, like some some English stuff for dragon Quest ten 512 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.039 offline maybe coming here. I don't know if that would be the case. 513 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.880 Again, I don't know a lot about dragon Quest ten the online version versus 514 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.359 the offline version, but maybe maybe that's what he's teasing here. That could 515 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.079 be cool as well. Although dragon Quest twelve is the big one, I 516 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.480 played a lot of dragon Quests eleven. I didn't beat it or anything, 517 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.160 it didn't get anywhere close to doing that. But I started it up when 518 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.640 I was on paternity leave a couple of years ago, got a while ago 519 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.640 now four years ago, and I just sort of accidentally played like fifteen hours 520 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.640 of it. But the one I was like, I'm just going to check 521 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:01.799 this out, and then I just kept playing because it was so much fun. 522 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.440 So if I played fifteen hours of dragon Quest, that so that means 523 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.359 it's a really good game and people should definitely check that one out while you 524 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.680 wait for Dragon Quest twelve. All right. Nintendo of America president on secrecy 525 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.559 surrounding a new Mario voice actor. This is from Nintendo Everything. Nintendo of 526 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.200 America President Doug Bowser has briefly commented on the secrecy surrounding new Mario the Mario 527 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.759 voice actor. The company announced in August that Charles Martinez, who held the 528 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.200 role for many years, would be moving on. However, Nintendo left fans 529 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.319 guessing as to who would be taking over the part. It wasn't until just 530 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.400 a few days before the release of Super Mario Brothers. Wonder came out that 531 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.240 we learned that Kevin Afghani was given the role. That and that came from 532 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.920 his own personal social media account. Doug Bowser had this to say about the 533 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.799 secrecy while speaking with Wired. We want people to enjoy the gameplay experience, 534 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.119 and if they enjoy the voice, the voice behind the gameplay experience, that's 535 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.960 the most important to us. Not necessarily highlighting Mario's actor. I think this 536 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.799 kind of I think they're like slowly revealing, like, yeah, we actually 537 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:07.440 didn't want people always thinking about Charles Martine instead of thinking about Mario. And 538 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.920 even though they're keeping Martinee around as an ambassador, and I'm kind of like, 539 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.000 yeah, I no like people asking about Martinee or whatever, people asking 540 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.680 about the voice actor. That's not what we want. We want to avoid 541 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.359 that. I think this is Nintendo being weird for no real good reason, 542 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.799 because who does this hurt? Nintendo? Chill out about this stuff. Yeah, 543 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.559 we like the people behind the stuff that make the things that we like, 544 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.799 like it's yeah, of course we do, and so we want to 545 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.880 support them or we want to celebrate them. And you getting weird about that 546 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.680 and pretending like all these games are made by little elves inside of trees. 547 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.119 It continues to be odd. I don't know, how do you read this 548 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.839 now? I wonder, and I this may just me be, you know, 549 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.000 thinking about the negative aspects of social media. If they had come out 550 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.880 and announced him immediately, right when they announced that Charles Martineau wasn't coming back, 551 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.519 I don't know how well that would have went for him, that's true. 552 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.559 I mean, so I wonder if they were just waiting for him to 553 00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.200 do it naturally, or for his name to be in the credits and allow 554 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.400 it to just happen organically. Even when he did announce it on his own 555 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.599 social media account. That wasn't entirely great if you went and looked, so 556 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.199 I think that that secrecy actually benefited him. However, I do agree with 557 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:22.039 you, why are you so weird between the tournament the tournament announcement earlier this 558 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.800 week community tournament announcement. Don't you be spilling your milk on your controller while 559 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.000 you're playing in a tournament? It's good lord, and now this it is. 560 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.039 I will never understand why they do weird stuff like that. I do 561 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.360 according to Like with the not necessarily hi highlighting Mario's actor, it almost sounds 562 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.840 like they want him to be Mickey Mouse. Yeah, right, do you 563 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.239 know who Mickey Mouse's voice actory? Well, you might because you're a dad 564 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.920 and you see the credits all the time. Christy multiples, I can't great 565 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.800 name. I don't know something like that. Yeah, but yeah, if 566 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.920 if you don't know who Mickey Mouse's voice, it's been the same voice since 567 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.559 the twenties or the thirties when he started talking. Yeah. So if that's 568 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.320 what they're going for now that Martinette gone, fine, but say that, 569 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.039 say that you're just you know, we're not putting as much emphasis on him 570 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.000 anymore, No offense to Martinee. He's our ambassador. Now he's going to 571 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.920 go kiss the babies and shake the hands and all that. But from now 572 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.519 on, the voice is so ubiquitous and so easy to not easy to recreate 573 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.880 completely. I've gone it did a great job. Let's not say that. 574 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.280 But you know, I kind of get if they want to go to Mickey 575 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.639 Mouse route because he's such a big, big role, but just come out 576 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.519 and say that. Yeah, I mean, just not being weird exactly. 577 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:34.280 Yes, I think when they're like explaining Martine's retiring is going to be ambassador 578 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.239 and the Martiners, I don't know what that means. It's like, clearly 579 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.400 there's other motivations here. And yeah, I do think Nintendo should be more 580 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.719 clear with their motivations when they are trying to explain this, especially when it 581 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.239 involves real people's livelihoods and all this stuff. But yeah, yeah, I 582 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.960 agree, Kevin f Ghani did a great job. I really just loving Wonder, 583 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.719 continue to love Wonder. And when they when he says Wowey's Ali, 584 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.679 I'm like, that's not been said before. And then I'm like, no, 585 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.039 that's great, give me more. Wowyes, Alis that's good stuff. 586 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.639 Flower talking. The flower talking all throughout the different stages is great. I 587 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.760 know it was in the trailer, but I still laughed when look at that 588 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.159 guy and then you kill it's like, oh, well then okay. It's 589 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.119 really it's really it's like well comedically timed and it's really like, I don't 590 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.239 know, it's cute, and it's never too much because it's like one line 591 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.440 per level. Maybe maybe a couple of lines, but it's like very small 592 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.400 stuff, and it's over before like once you realize he's talking, he's almost 593 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.960 already done, so it's like, oh, it's just a quick little comment 594 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.360 thrown out and it's not not anywhere near him, not obnoxious. I'm actually 595 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.880 really impressed that they were able to like strike to strike that balance of we're 596 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.559 going to be throwing these kind of these jabs out there and they're not necessarily 597 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.440 you the player, but it's like just like hit commenting on what's happening, 598 00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.880 and it's never weird er obnoxious. That's tough to pull off, and they 599 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.320 really really didn't. I like it a lot. All right, A couple 600 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.360 more stories here. Insomniac Ca apologizes as it patches out Spider Man two's Cuban 601 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:55.440 flag by the Cuban flag mustake this from Chris Scullion at VGC. A new 602 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.400 patches rolled out for Spider Man two which fixes the flag in Miles Morales home. 603 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.000 Since the game's release, players had been pointing out that Miles had a 604 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.400 large draped of one of the on one of the walls of his house, 605 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.840 and it had appeared to be the national flag of Cuba. However, Miles 606 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:15.239 and his family have no connection to Cuba and are of Puerto Rican descent instead. 607 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.400 The flags of Puerto Rico and Cuba have a similar design, with each 608 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.920 featuring five stripes and a triangle on the left hand side and a star in 609 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.519 the middle. Their colors are different, however, with the Cuban flag having 610 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.840 a red triangle and blue stripes, with the Puerto Rican flag triangle having blue 611 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:35.239 stripes and the Puerto Rican flag having a blue triangle and red stripes. I'm 612 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.159 not great with flags. I understand how this happens, and yet it's like, 613 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.440 man, that's a bummer. But they came out and they said, 614 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.519 hey, today's patch corrects an air where the Cuban flag was incorrectly displayed. 615 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:51.159 Instead of the Puerto Rican flag. We understand that accurate representation matters and greatly 616 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.199 regret this air. We sincerely apologize, and we'll do better in the future. 617 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.679 And what else can you say. It's a game that does take pride 618 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.239 in its representation, and rightfully so does a really good job. There's some 619 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:06.800 real, great, authentic culture in this game from a variety of places, 620 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.960 whether it's like representing Harlem or representing these characters and their family and their heritage. 621 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.599 So a mistake like this is going to stand out. But I also 622 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.079 think most players are like, hey, this doesn't look great. We give 623 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.519 you a benefit of doubt. We do. If you want to come out 624 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.079 and apologize, you should, And here it is. Here's the apology, 625 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.760 no excuses. They just straight up said, this are bad, We're going 626 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.719 to fix it. This is the right thing to do, of course, 627 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.119 and I'm glad that they were at a place where studios can be like, 628 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.440 yes, we will fix this and we're sorry. Right yeah. Blueprint, 629 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.119 absolute blueprint for how other gaming companies should do this going forward. It it 630 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.000 was an honest human mistake from someone who may not be familiar with flags. 631 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:45.679 As you said, they immediately solve the feedback, addressed it and it's already 632 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.559 fixed and now everyone can move on. There was nothing insidious behind it. 633 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.199 There was nothing, you know, it wasn't controversial by any means. They 634 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.400 just made a mistake. They came out said they greatly regretted it. The 635 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.760 apology is great, and I don't think anybody's going to against them. They 636 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.000 may there may be some jokes, you know, between now and the end 637 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:05.480 of the year, but eventually people just gonna forget it even happened. Yep. 638 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.039 So yeah, I'm with you on this. This is how simple stuff 639 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.800 like this that can be easily fixed. And maybe it was just someone not 640 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.719 knowing the difference between two things in a culture. Flags, you know, 641 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:20.199 some flags are very similar. Ivory Coast in Ireland, believe it or not, 642 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.480 are almost identical. Mm hmm. So that's it. It's a mix 643 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.960 up. It happens. It's human error, and I'm glad that it was 644 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.880 able to be fixed quickly and addressed so succinctly. This is how it should 645 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:30.599 be done from here on out. Yeah. Yeah. At a certain point, 646 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.840 your brain just fills in the blanks too, and you're like, walk 647 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.199 past the flag in the game, You're like it's supposed to be the part 648 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:37.440 of rihcom flags, so it's the Puerto Ricom flag and you don't even like 649 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.079 look at it all that closely. Again, I see how it happens. 650 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:44.079 It's uh and I'm glad, but I'm glad they came out apologized, and 651 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.280 you're right. By the end of the year, we won't remember it. 652 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.559 UH City Skyline two developer provides update on Pride to update on performance issues and 653 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.840 post release plans. As comes from georgiaing at GameSpot City Skyline two developer Colossal 654 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.519 Order has provided an update about the game's post release plans and its goals going 655 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.679 forward. This includes targeting a solid thirty frames per second with the game, 656 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.800 as well as fixing performance issues. Colst Order said that it's working on improvements 657 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:13.519 to the game, such as removing stutters, optimizing and balancing GPU performance, 658 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.679 and pushing CPU optimizations. The studio is also looking at expanding the options for 659 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:22.519 upscaling solutions. Both FSR two and DLSS two require the use of temporal anti 660 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.519 alien scene, which is not possible at the moment due to some objects being 661 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.639 incompatible with that technique. Colossal Order set in a forum post we are currently 662 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.280 working towards making this possible, which will not only help to boost performance, 663 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.559 but also also provide a better quality anti aalysting solution than the one we currently 664 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.159 use. Furthermore, costs. Order wants to aim to aim for a steady 665 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.480 thirty frames per second for the game. As it explains, there isn't any 666 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.320 really long term benefit for a city bill or to aim for a higher one, 667 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.760 unlike other genres such as a multiplayer shooter. I think that makes some 668 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.760 sense, Jason. We're saying, oh, yeah, hey, we like 669 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.000 our fidelity and you don't need to have every frame for perform I still hope 670 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.239 it's relatively easy to get about thirty frames per second. I still like it 671 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.639 in a lot of games, even when it's not necessary for a performance like 672 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.760 player performance. This game is far away from sixty frames per second, though, 673 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.679 so getting the thirty frames per second would be real nice. How are 674 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.000 you feeling these days about a game coming out like this in a busy time 675 00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.760 of year and being full price, ready to go, and kind of feeling 676 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.480 like it's in early access? Still not great if I mean, all they 677 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.559 had to do was say early access or even call it a beta, right, 678 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.599 yep, and you know, fix these things with a live environment and 679 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.679 people in the game. With a game like this, I feel like those 680 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.679 frames are more beneficial when you can like zoom in on each street and see 681 00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.519 the little people living their lives. And I want that too. I want 682 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:51.840 thirty or even sixty if you can do that, to zoom in and see 683 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:53.559 them. But like, yes, to get back to your question, this 684 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.719 it feels it feels off something something about this between the warning that they gave 685 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.360 week where they were flat out like this is not gonna launch the way you 686 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.159 might want it to, but we're doing it anyway. And now this something 687 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.239 is rotten in Denmark. I don't know what it is, but this is 688 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.639 this is Paradox, right, And I think I think Paradox is kind of 689 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:21.360 feeling some a crunch in terms of maybe the availability of capital and being able 690 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.239 to move from one project to the next. And they just had Lamp Lighters 691 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:29.159 League and they let that studio go and we're already writing that game off basically, 692 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:31.840 so it doesn't seem like Paradox is in a great situation. That seems 693 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:38.280 to be seems to be a not common but a something that has happened frequently 694 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:43.079 in a lot with a lot of publishers in Europe right now, where maybe 695 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.159 they are feeling a little bit more of the slam of inflation and a slowing 696 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:50.559 down economy than some of the publishers in other parts of the world, where 697 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.440 it's like, yeah, Japan seems mostly okay right now, and a lot 698 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.679 of publishers in the United States, Yeah, they're laying people off, but 699 00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.599 they're not like shutting down a ton of studios. But Embracers like, no, 700 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.480 it's your sale. Everything's gone bad, And obviously we know what's gone 701 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.079 with them, gone wrong with Embracer, and it doesn't seem like paradox is 702 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:12.239 in that situation, but they're on that spectrum somewhere, and it seems like 703 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.400 that means a game like City Skylines Too has to come out. It's okay, 704 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:22.599 that's not great, but hopefully they can kind of push through it and 705 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:23.840 fix the game up and get it to a point where it's gonna and they 706 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.119 probably will. I think so the City Skylines Too, with the people that 707 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.639 have played it so far that I've talked to, seem to think, hey, 708 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.239 fundamentally, the underlying game here is very good. I like a lot 709 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.880 about it, but I just wish it ran better. It's like, okay, 710 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.280 well that's that does seem like something they're going to be able to get 711 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:42.280 to. And then all the stuff about oh and all the DLC that I 712 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.159 got with the last game that was never going to work, but it doesn't 713 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.639 work, so kind of waiting around to see how they support this game. 714 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.360 They will probably support it as well, but first they just got to get 715 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.119 it running at a decent clip. I mean, people are running this thing 716 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:58.440 on pretty powerful GPUs and getting fifteen frames per second and that's just not going 717 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:02.320 to work for most people. So we'll see. They're banking on the goodwill 718 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.719 of their fan base, right they know they have, right, they're changing 719 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.800 the goodwill for like a little bit of like, can we get some money 720 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.400 now because we got to sell this thing. Yeah, that's risky because that 721 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.159 good will is not with fire infinite or permanent, and if they keep screwing 722 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:16.960 up that that's gonna hurt them. And they have they did have a lot 723 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.840 of good will, right because City Skylines was the game that provided that genre. 724 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.559 A beacon of light at the top of the hill after sim City into 725 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:30.239 twenty thirteen, so it's like, Okay, I get it, Like you 726 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.519 did all that work in that effort to build up that goodwill, but it's 727 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.079 very easy to lose that stuff. So we'll see. I don't think they've 728 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:37.679 burned it quite yet, but they do. Got to fix this up and 729 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:43.239 pretty quickly. Two more stories here. Eight years later, Batman Arkham Knight 730 00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.880 just got a new movie batsuit. This is from Darren Bonthus at GameSpot, 731 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.519 eight years after release and several years since its last since it last received a 732 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.000 new addition to the bat wardrobe. Batman Arkham Knight has been updated with a 733 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.559 brand new set of threads for the caped crusader to wear while he rearranges the 734 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:04.719 teeth of middles running loose in Gotham, or technically a new pat suit over 735 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.400 on the epic game Store version of Arkham Knight. Via geek ViBe's Nation, 736 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.000 owners of that game can dress up as Robert Pattinson's incarnation of the Dark Knight, 737 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.440 who first appeared in twenty twenty two's The Batman film. This doesn't appear 738 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.079 to be a mod that has been slipped into the game, but a brand 739 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.280 new costume that has officially been added as an optional outfit that can be worn 740 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.280 throughout Batman's battle against Arkham Knight. So what's the deal here? Rock Study 741 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.599 hasn't made any mention of the costume on its social channels yet, and there's 742 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.960 no hint of it being inserted into the game at all, making this a 743 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.719 complete surprise. The one theory is that it's linked to the upcoming Switch release 744 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.199 of the Batman Arkham Trilogy, which was originally meant to launch on October twenty 745 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.960 sixth before it was delayed to December. First, that seems like a reasonable 746 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.599 explanation here that they, yeah, I think wanted to put a little bit 747 00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:52.599 extra in there for the Switch release, and of course why wouldn't you then 748 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.440 put that everywhere else? But that's still it's weird. I don't know, 749 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:04.039 Robert Pattinson, the Batman suit in an eight year old game. Hey, 750 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.159 video games have changed a lot to the point where like this does make some 751 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:08.880 sense. But it's just like for a game that's kind of was dormant for 752 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.079 years to then get one new small piece of DLC out of nowhere. Strange, 753 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.760 right, it is strange, but also breaking news to Game mess mornings 754 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.599 Ign reporting that the suit is now removed. Oh okay, yes, it 755 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.800 wasn't supposed to be there. It seems like it wasn't supposed to pop in 756 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.800 there, right, so yes, and so yeah it's removed. Probably going 757 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.440 to drop now when this game comes to the switch, if it is going 758 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.400 to drop it, I mean, this is not going to disappear forever and 759 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.039 just be like, oh that was weird. This is something, right, 760 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.719 Yeah, maybe it's some sort of weird viral tests or viral marketing test to 761 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.559 see if they could do that. Yeah, maybe pull the plug out real 762 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.440 quick. But but no, this definitely seems like it wasn't supposed to be 763 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.400 there. The fact that they're adding it to a nearly decade old game is 764 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.639 very weird, unless there's some other, you know, aspect to it, 765 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.320 which it could be the trilogy. Since the truth I think honestly, they 766 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.159 just they just they didn't change the uh you know, when you the scheduled 767 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.440 tweet, they didn't change the date, right, That's what it seems like. 768 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.679 If they was supposed to come out today and then it didn't, but 769 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.639 then the suit dropped and it did. Yeah, they just they forgot to 770 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.280 move the scheduled tweet to design ye exactly. Someone just did that and they're 771 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.199 like, all right, we're good, and then they and then they didn't 772 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.599 think about it again, which I totally see how that happens. So I 773 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.320 think you're on about that. But this also says to be though, like, 774 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:29.159 don't expect another like Batman game anytime too soon. That that's gonna be 775 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:30.480 several years off where we could have put a suit like that in there. 776 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.679 Instead, let's just put it in the old game. Right. Yeah, 777 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.960 well they're busy suicide squadding too, right, they still they're very busy suicide 778 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.480 squad Man. I keep forgetting that game one, what's ever coming out? 779 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.039 Two hasn't come out, and three is still coming out next early next year. 780 00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.079 So yeah, hard to believe. Yeah, we'll me listen, I'll 781 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.039 play it. I'll give it a fair shake, but I just have no 782 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.199 interest in it as we stand right now. But yeah, one interest in 783 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.679 it, and that's Samoa Joe is King Shark. Yes, hey, shout 784 00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.519 out to smo Joe. While that he gets to that, I'm just like, 785 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.400 well that he's a voice in a video game for for a comic book 786 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.400 character, but in a TV show of a video game, he's just a 787 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.360 body and then someone else does the voice when he played sweets. Take it 788 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:14.519 over, ye, take it over as he should? As he should? 789 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.400 All right? Then Disney dream Light Valley, leaving early access in December, 790 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.559 will not go free to play. This comes from Jason Finelli over at game 791 00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.000 Spot with Yeah, pretty good, dude. With over a year of early 792 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.280 access time now laud game Loft has announced that Disney dream Light Valley, the 793 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.239 animal crossing esc life sim featuring a who's who of Disney characters, will fully 794 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.960 launch globally on December fifth. However, the news comes from him with a 795 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.559 major caveat. Despite originally being touted as a free to play title, game 796 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.159 Loft his change course and elected not to go that route anymore. Jason going 797 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.639 to explain the rest of it, like what do you know what they're thinking? 798 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.199 Was like, what do they say about this? Do they give an 799 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:55.079 explanation? And is the explanation? We see how people let people like Janachoa 800 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.559 play our game, and we know we can get more money from them. 801 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.920 We can get more money Jan. So the blog posts that they put up 802 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.760 and I'll bring it up here as we're talking. They basically there's a whole 803 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.679 paragraph about it where it basically sounds to me like they had or they thought 804 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.639 they had two options. They were either going to make it free to play 805 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.199 and charge for every update, right when they had already sent a precedent that 806 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.400 free content updates were gonna be the thing, or they were gonna keep it 807 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.719 at a premium you know, entry fee, but then still be able to 808 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.840 produce free content updates. Now that makes sense to me. But later on 809 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.239 in the blog they also say that the next major update is a paid expansion. 810 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.800 Huh, So it's paid story, it's extra characters and all that. 811 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.599 So those two things don't jive. Yah. Does it sound like they're gonna 812 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:49.480 have like bigger paid expansions and then but like maybe those will still come with 813 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.119 like free aspects that everyone gets. Like, how does this seem like it's 814 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.000 gonna work? So this next one that they're revealing it the full details next 815 00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.639 week, it's called a Rift in Time. The image that we see shows 816 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:08.320 like Agriba and Gaston and Eve from Wally Rapunzel is back there, so and 817 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.000 it looks like the dream Light Valley is actually being taken over by some of 818 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.400 these lands. Oh okay, So I wonder if like they're starting to bleed 819 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.920 in. If you finished the first early access season's storyline, which I highly 820 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.000 recommend you do, it actually goes some pretty deep places regarding growing up. 821 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.920 I was very surprised. There's like a teaser on the wall of like you 822 00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.960 see the dream Light Valley and then it's pointing to these floating islands. How 823 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.159 do we get there? And then Jaafar's shadow appears, kind of like teasing 824 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.159 what's going on in future. So yes, it's a very complicated lore here 825 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.840 in dream Light Valley, but it's I'm guessing that they're going to make the 826 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.239 big expansion story with brand new biomes and brand new places to play. Paid 827 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.199 expansions like this, It does say expansion pass, so that may include a 828 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.639 bunch of things, but still have smaller updates, be they like the occasional 829 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.280 character who doesn't fit in, or say a new movie comes out and it 830 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.119 gets very very popular, uh with with the fan base and they want to 831 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.079 insert something like how Encanto Mirabelle was added in. I feel like was not 832 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.679 added in earlier than they expected to even though she came out what this year? 833 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.119 I think so I kind of get their vision, but the problem for 834 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.480 me is the whole. Yes, we're still going to offer free content, 835 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.639 but we're also have this big expansion pass that there's a clarity there that needs 836 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:32.480 to be presented by game Loft and maybe this November one livestream will do that. 837 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.159 But right, yeah, there's a lot of confusion. I was in 838 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.519 the discord for Dream Light Valley before we got on here. Yes I am 839 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:46.239 a card carrying discord number and mixed at best is how I would put reaction 840 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.519 to this announcement. I mean, they got explained and to do right. 841 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.599 This does feel like, hey, we had we had a plan. Uh 842 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.639 we didn't necessarily get hit in the mouth, but but we have a We 843 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:02.320 got smacked a little bit with reality of like what the appetite is for games 844 00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.400 these days that have they're constant and that you're always playing, and we found 845 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.199 an audience and Disney Dream of the Valley was a success. But once the 846 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.440 rubber met the road, we saw like, hey, it makes more sense 847 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.320 to do this and it's not what we plan to do and it's probably not 848 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.840 what you were expecting, and maybe it's not the thing that everyone would prefer, 849 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.280 but it's the one that enables this game to keep going, so they're 850 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.039 going to try to put as pretty of address on it as possible, I 851 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.000 would imagine. And it doesn't seem like the end of the world either, 852 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:31.519 Like, hey, if fans want this game, the most of them probably 853 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.000 be like, okay, this is what has to happen, fine, right, 854 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.079 right, Yeah, And the good thing is this game was never free 855 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:42.039 to play. It was it started as you founders packed to get in. 856 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.400 So anyone who's already playing it right now has already paid their entry fake exactly. 857 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.440 Everything carries over, so nothing's getting lost. That that is a good 858 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.880 thing, right, So that helps them maintain like, hey, no, 859 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:52.599 we're just not going to change anything to what like what we said were originally 860 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.400 going to change it too, so yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 861 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:59.119 But those people still have to pay the expansion pass fee, so that 862 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.199 kind of that's and that's where the jive is. That's where that's where the 863 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.519 uh, the messaging is clashing, and that's what needs to be ironed out. 864 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.079 What will be free? What will free content be later on? Are 865 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:15.400 you going to gate all of your character editions right behind these That has not 866 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.239 happened so far. No, every character has been free in this early access 867 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.719 so far that has been added, and it went from like a roster of 868 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.599 ten to now like over twenty if my memory serves. So there's a ton 869 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.960 of people in there or characters in there, and for them to now decide 870 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.239 no, only new editions are going to be gate kept behind expansion passes, 871 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:36.119 that's not going to go well. So they may have already opened Pandora's box 872 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:37.920 and they're trying to find a way to close it again, and that just 873 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.760 might not happen. So we'll see last little bit of news here breaking. 874 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.039 This comes from the gb dooter seed on Twitter. People in Hanky star Rail 875 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:50.039 are rioting because they think the devs made a character's ass smaller as part of 876 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.960 a new costume and character update. So we'll get more details about that next 877 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.119 week, I'm sure. And really, look the chat. The chat was 878 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.840 exploding about butts and I had no idea what was going on. But now 879 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.679 that's just normal for chat. They're always exploding for butts in chat. That's 880 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.280 what's happening over there. But hey, yeah, someone's got to do something 881 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:14.119 that stop the button shrinking. That's it's a terrible butts. It's an epidemic 882 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.480 of smaller butts, and we won't will not stand for it again. All 883 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.159 Right, we have a poll question from yesterday. I'm gonna bring that up 884 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.079 right now. Have you played the original Alan Wake before? I have, 885 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.400 but only a little bit. But I'm gonna say yes because that counts. 886 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.880 Fifty eight percent say yes, forty two percent said no. Holy shit, 887 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.119 that's a lot of people saying yes. That's three thousand votes. There's a 888 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.599 lot of Allen Wake fans out there. You guys are out there like representing. 889 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.239 I would imagine that's gonna be beneficial. I mean, list in, 890 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.239 that game has been everywhere at this point and re released and on sale a 891 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.519 million times, and it is like a spooky game, I kind of thing 892 00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.440 you could revisit every year. So I'm not too surprised a lot of people 893 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.679 played this. But I think my question going in Allen Like two is are 894 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:58.400 people who haven't played out in like two going to show up for that game? 895 00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:01.159 It sounds like it doesn't matter. Most people have a history with Alan 896 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:05.159 Wake and they're going to hop right into it. So Yeah, as someone 897 00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.079 in chat points out, I think the fact that their release control got that 898 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:12.679 fan base and then we're released Yeah, people went back to get their mind 899 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.960 right. And now going into Allen Wake two, that was a very smart 900 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:20.239 sequencing by Remedy. They're just firing almost cylinders man. Really. Yes, 901 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.360 they've got the synergy going between their various stuff and that's that's really working out 902 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.639 for them. All right. I have a new poll question that we will 903 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.719 ask and answer on Monday. But first, Jason, why don't you tell 904 00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.280 people where they can find you what you have going on? All that good 905 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.840 stuff? So you can find me on Twitter X what are we calling it 906 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.679 now? Whatever I just called livered is today at be at me too, 907 00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:44.119 big man, Finelle. Uh. That's where you get my musings about video 908 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.920 games and Philadelphia sports and pro wrestling and all that good stuff. So follow 909 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:50.800 me on there if you like what you see here. A couple of I'm 910 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.880 writing news for game Spot regularly. You'll see my byline there, a couple 911 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.280 of reviews in the pipeline, a couple things like I said that I got 912 00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:00.480 code late on You'll see me on m M O RPG dot Please support them. 913 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:05.519 Joe Bradford, great dude over there, and yeah, that's where that's 914 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.239 where I spend the most of my time. I'm happy to be here. 915 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.480 I hope I can be back again. So you absolutely and yeah, thank 916 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.199 man. Yeah, I appreciate you helping us out with tam Oh. Yeah, 917 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.679 what's up? So sorry? I have a podcast. I am an 918 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.119 idiot? Yeah, yeah, what's the podcast? Tell people about it. 919 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.519 I have a podcast called Cheese, Steaks and Controllers Philadelphia, Video Games and 920 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:28.159 Esports. I recently my most recent episode was this past Wednesday, had Orange 921 00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.199 Cassidy, current AWA champion, came and talked to me for twenty minutes. 922 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:38.239 He revealed to me the game that is the most stress inducing in the locker 923 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.559 room and it is not a w fight forever. So that's okay. I'm 924 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.599 very curious now. And then I also in my second segment, I talked 925 00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.079 about my trip to Japan in August, because this is my first episode in 926 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.039 two months. And then that ended with two of the Pokemon Unite broadcasters, 927 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:58.880 Zinks and Spragel's separate interviews with them talking about the Unite meta and the competition 928 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.679 circuit. There very very cool stuff. Please go support that wherever you get 929 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:07.079 your podcasts. Say to name again on listening Cheese Steaks and Controllers. If 930 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.519 you're done listening to Giant bombcasts. Go listen to my stuff. I would 931 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.559 very much appreciate it. Fantastic, fantastic. All right, we have a 932 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.639 new poll question and it is wait, is Super Mario Brothers Wonder the best 933 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.960 online game of the year? Yes or no? And I know my answer. 934 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:28.000 Holy crap. It's a fun, fun, fun video game. We'll 935 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.679 discuss that on Giant Bomb on Monday. Jane, do we have Monday off 936 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.320 for some reason? I feel like I think my kids are off school Monday, 937 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.880 but I don't think we are. Maybe they just have an in school 938 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.440 workday or something like that. Okay, but we'll talk about it next week 939 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:46.320 regardless on Giant Bomb. Speaking of Giant Bomb, we will be having a 940 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:51.519 upf here in a little bit and a whole bunch of other fun stuff happening 941 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:52.559 on the website, and then you know, we'll get back into the swing 942 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:57.519 things next week. Tell them though, Jason, thank you so much for 943 00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.000 spinning today talk with me about video games. You know, I appreciate it 944 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.159 of course, any anytime. And a real quick shout out to Jan put 945 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:07.119 my link to my Spotify podcast right there in the chat, So thank you, 946 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.679 Jane, appreciate you shouts to Jan and shots to you all. You 947 00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:14.519 are the best audience in gaming. Thank you for watching. Until next time, 948 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:16.119 have a good one, take care of yourself and goodbye.