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And it is time, of course, to talk so much shit and end

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up other slandered saying that here there
is a lot of mixed opinions around the

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debate. I like to hear your
views on last night' s debate,

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where Luis Savinader, Leonel Fernández and
Abel Martínez confronted their positions on what should

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be the direction the next Government of
the Dominican Republic should take, what is

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the idea they have. That'
s what they tried to expose about how

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the state should be handled, without
the five, three, one, ninety

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- six, fifty conflicting ideas.
The presidential debate has been calling for the

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interlo since I called a horn,
and I put it down in the morning.

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He was sweaty. Good morning,
we' re playing the team.

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Well we realized it was what he
knew, it was the opposition against the

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ruling party. Of course not,
that' s right. Yes, yes,

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I have, yes, but above
all, the very important part of

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the debate was his intervention to see
when he said very good the proposal,

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but in sixteen years they had to
think about them and not process them.

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Now what happened. Good morning,
good morning, you sing, you don

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' t know, we didn'
t have any facts. That' s

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why I don' t ask to
say hello. For me it was a

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little good, not at all,
because there were many things that were based

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a lot on the past, but
the proposals stayed as if waiting for you

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to do for a tomorrow. The
President himself always spoke of the previous sixteen

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years and not of what was already
going to be for the next, a

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next governmental period. Okay, good
morning and the debate is mixed up.

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Good morning, good morning. Well, for me, I don' t

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know what to say, and I' m getting stuck with this comment.

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But cie es rebe Leonel was something
like drop the mach, that is to

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say the comment he made that on
the street he was told that this government

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is like a colonium. I said
wow. I mean, whoever doesn'

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t know his story, you can
repeat it based on that comment, that

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' s how that' s rebellional
makes you fall back if you don'

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t know the story of all the
years that happened and everything that happened with

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Leonel. Now the big surprise was
Abel. I was really surprised and I

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thought it was like a furry puppet, but to see what everyone answered and

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refuted and always looking for a way
to show their proposals that were hooked,

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as they just said, they were
all very similar, with different words,

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but they ended up in the same
thing. But it was very eloquent and

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it surprised you a lot because that' s what you expected abel for the

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campaign she' s had. Yes, yes, it' s totally seven

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thirty- nine o' clock and
the presidential debate of the day is already

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in place. I understand that there
was no talk of what should actually be

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discussed in the debate. What should
have been spoken, Brother, what was

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to be spoken I did, I
saw speaking on the sixteenth of August,

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the two thousand twenty- four.
I' m going to do all of

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this so that there' s better
than yours to talk about what the other

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sixteen did than what the other twenty
to that twenty- three did. Now,

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I kind of don' t really
say that. I don' t

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know if you had the same debate
that I saw, but I saw so

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much of Vinader, both Luis and
Leonel Fernández and Abel Martínez talking about what

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they intended to do to become President, and I saw him every time they

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intervened. I don' t know
if you had the debate with Governor of

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Puerto Rico, who has also had
one this week, but the one I

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saw raised those things that you say
weren' t there. The money doesn

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' t pay any more because I
don' t know if you heard that

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there was talk of something you have
to pay attention to. The issue of

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fiscal reform and the need for comprehensive
reform were discussed. Right, that wasn

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' t talked about in bante'
s. There, yes, yes,

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ah ok, in case he talked
about what the part of dce and August

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is intended to do. But on
every side, in every way, that

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is, until Abel spoke of Chichi
sure, he is putting forward an idea,

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a proposal that he would make from
saying and giving the laugh the phrase

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Chichi sure. But he talked about
that chi Yes, I' m sure

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the huaguada that there was the coincidence
in the day care, the tax reform.

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If they know to put their hand
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three who have been three irresponsible,
they all know you know ray reposes.

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Now I liked the part when they
talk about spending and Abel, that'

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s where he attacked with the issue
of the increase in public employees, which

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Media here says dominates the poliga.
Tabucha in these four years is and bitch.

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I felt a bit in the air
a subject that is quite sensitive,

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the crime issue, like it was, they were banging each other, because

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also good to him has nothing to
offer on that subject, because we have

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never governed. But he was President
of the Chamber of Deputies who was there

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that bulb, which he offered bulb, but he was President, yes,

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but what I mean is that the
three of them have somehow been throwing sand

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under the carpet. The three have
trusted us because he was President of the

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Chamber of Deputies and from the Chamber
of Deputies he could have motorized some reforms

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as a law, a proposal for
a law that could have helped in some

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sense here to combat the crime I
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three very much in that sense,
yes, very vague. No. I

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didn' t like the question you
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she is. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that was for itself. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, but what Abel
was proposing was what the cord is

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called. That' s the east
of the security curtain. So I have

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patrol and then it' s a
detachment one I don' t know lens

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lights the other that education wanted Daddy
Papre shots. That scabbard or whatever they

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don' t put on, disguise, it' s not done, but

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it' s not advertised. Yeah, but it was like I don'

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t know very well, no,
very vague. Good morning, good day

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team, good morning. I didn' t like that they left me a

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sensitive topic and that is creating many
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They didn' t touch me.
Feasibility, gentlemen, you left it out

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for me And second, it'
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When you spoke to an ignorant man. When you talk to someone who understands

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everything you said where he was little. I think either he was the one

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who had the best performance in the
management of the stage. Yeah, especially

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because you expect Leonel words to be
imbombing like that. What I know as

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a young lionelde is that he uses
words that you have to look for a

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larus to ski that doesn' t
work exactly and he knew how to handle

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that any of that doesn' t
work. Leonel, remember that you'

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ve been a professor practically all your
life and you were a professor of how

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you call that communication pods in college. If there' s something that or

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not, he knows how to communicate. Yeah, and he got it right.

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I mean, I thought I saw
him with Enrique and the debate and

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he' s not going to understand
anything. And yes, what worried me

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is that his eyes are disappearing.
Leonel, not Chinese is chi chinga.

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Yes, the Chinese professor is already
suspecting that by suspecting the whole day so

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that he already leonde the nobel suspicion. Oh, but bio- days opinions

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found. Good morning, I went
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him down from the beginning, the
library he' s going to have leonar

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in his head and the ABBY everything
he currently has, everything he' s

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given. But I was surprised to
see him really very much, because I

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really thought he was going to look
like a lump under him, but he

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spoke like a very radical. I
liked the other one. They believe that

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the presidential debate was thus found good
day, what grew them were as sure,

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they were respected within the framework.
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But I feel like Abel was like
the one who killed puja like he threw

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around his neck. He talked about
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Alberto spoke of the migration crisis in
general. He told them that even

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the river was taken away. I
thought that was great, that' s

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what I' m saying, but
you know why he has that freedom,

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too, because he' s never
been the President. Then Leonel also understood

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that with the same rod that he
had measured Bilarl at some point they would

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measure him and have measured him over
the years. That is why there is

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so much talk about leonel and its
past government. You know totally, but

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that feels like I' m sorry. Abel Martine, like that Attacunchin more

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and that' s why he stood
as well as already Brahman people. Besides,

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I, Abel is the one who
least has to lose. I think

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that' s all for him.
Winning tie or winning brother. There was

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a subject they should have touched on
and it doesn' t touch. Besides

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being there, I' d already
put him on top of it. Yes,

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there was a topic that there was
buronto falling regulation of so many podcasts

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that there are right now, good
morning opinions found out missing. Mine that

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you' re coming, aunt of
course, the first thing is that I

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was totally surprised. My wife and
I were at first like wow to see

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I was pretty surprised. I thought
I didn' t have much proposal and

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it really was very safe on the
part of responding. The leader was not

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expected anymore, and not because he
is really exceptional. And abindes also chose

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me at one point, because I
thought I was going to come a moment

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and he' s going to despair, but he really kept his posture and

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without waste, yes and tempered,
he understands that he didn' t see

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how he bats. The day he
gave the conflicting opinions, the day gave

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an answer at a time when,
because personally I don' t like the

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kind of answers people give, the
governments of turn, for example, when

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they want to tell you like you
did for twenty years. It was no,

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no, that twenty years now is
now. Forget it, forget about

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the age of twenty and the time
I' m reading something like that,

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as it' s called, came
to give you something I tell you we

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all last twenty years and then I
don' t know the good country,

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the good country that Avinder wants to
sell to us that they have done in

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four years he built the peddé pro. Now, we' re going for

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the wrong. The professor said good, but he didn' t either.

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Lily did it, she did the
other thing. He did it to the

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other one just you. But times
change. The lord is something I know

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and I look. The needs are
progressive and will always exist and a new

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need arises to a problem solved.
Likewise, I do not know a country

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with loose problems. Singapore is the
country, one of the richest countries in

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the world and where there is more
security in all respects, of educational security,

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health security. I have a friend
I saw Singapore about six or seven

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months ago. He made you sick
there, and he didn' t have

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a problem being taken care of.
Sure, they charge you the pod,

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but they send it to the hotel. You can walk like this, and

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you go to Singapore and ask her
big questions, happy. We are not

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full of problems, because the human
being is like this. And I am

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of what I said and read it
the other day in good ink from the

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newspaper Diario Libre that I wrote about
the action of Ivan Lorenzo and that here

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there are people who are willing to
burn the country to end up ruling the

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ashes. Since the two thousand nineteen
I have been speaking that the main input

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that the politicians have here, in
the China Conchin is the terrible same.

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They have to convince a part of
society that you are very bad and you

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are taking the devil, because those
who are have done nothing for you So

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they make people think that the solution, even to be happy, as happened

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in Venezuela, that the Ministry of
Happiness was created by Chávez, at that

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level of absurdity, reach politicians who, even if they are happy, are

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a responsibility of the State. And
the big problem we have at this time

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that people have replaced individual responsibility with
state responsibility. I mean, the state

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is responsible for everything, but we
didn' t give the state everything to

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take care of them. We gave
things to the state to take care of

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them. And those who are there
have to resolve and ensure that those things,

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which are their responsibility, are better
every day. And certainly, the

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country we have today, that beautiful
country that governs and presents the PRM,

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was built in the last thirty years
and to build it was provided by the

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PRD, the reformist, the PLD
and now they. And if there are

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things that are needs today, it
is because many things have been solved along

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the way. But it' s
not true that the Dominican Republic is wrong.

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It is not true, as many
people want to convince themselves, that

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there is no progress here. It
is not true that this is a poor

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country or, it is not true
that here has not been advanced because when

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I was twenty years old that I
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or there was a meter for me
to get to maximum gomez, I

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had to ride to the trunk in
a huagua forty, that is, to

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arrive the Independence Park and from there
take a car. The tube also to

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reach Santiago Street and get to a
sweat class or by looking at smoke at

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seven o' clock in the morning. So that shit of thinking is that

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those who were born recently believe that
this country has everything it has today and

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is accurate of that policy management.
I do not share it and have been

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consistent with them over the past five
years. It' s just that pessimism

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as I take it for you to
win people' s favor seems like a

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bad strategy to me and I think
we should sit down and see the country

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we were and see the country we
are. And of course there will always

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be needs, because if you go
to Singapore, if you go to Finland,

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the needs you have at the time
you go are in line with the

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standard of living and the expectations you
have in that person at that time.

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It is not true that Republic is
wrong, the Dominican Republic is wrong.

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I don' t believe you or
I' m going to sit down and

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say this pa there doesn' t
work and here I' m leaving here

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there' s no progress, because
I' d be lying to myself.

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I can compare the Alberto who walked
like one you had broken, who walked

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six kilometers to get to the bas
from the gomez to six kilometers nine of

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the gomez sometimes I had to walk
six kilometers to get by the gomez to

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me to my university and hearing a
car that has been clear product of my

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work. But in which country have
the conditions been given so that I working

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can be that of the Dominican Republic. If this were Cuba, I didn

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' t have that chance, if
we were devastated like Haiti, I didn

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' t have that chance. I
would have been swimming in Puerto Rico a

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long time ago. It wasn'
t that shit, that shit, that

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attitude. I don' t get
in that guagua. I don' t

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get involved in that I' m
not part of that caravan that needs to

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be improved a lot of things,
that we' re better than 20 years

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ago. It is true that PELED
helped build the country we are today.

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Right that they did a thousand devils
too is it true? And what they

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are proposing today is also true.
But they did what circumstances allowed. Also

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on many topics, well, it
wasn' t about being lazy or being

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meaner than the bill. It was
what circumstances allowed. But what we are

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today is the product of the things
they had before and of course they have

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to appeal what they did. Obviously, they' re presumed to be part

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of what we are today. Or
what a damn way to reason the hipinse

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people have, the damn banner of
face politics, and look objectively at reality.

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This country is better than the opposition
says and worse than the government says.

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There was a but beautiful one.
There was a response given by the

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president to the candidate, this Abel, Abel Martínez. When Abel Martinez was

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telling him, I was talking about
solidarity pensions, which I didn' t

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like either. No. No,
no, that' s not for me.

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Abel, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, he said what' s
wrong with you. Abel, oh,

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he says two of us walk in
one pussy. But I' m left

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with the pressure. You' re
from saying good, but you' re

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also from ah Ban' s clear
going to you too now bad hears not

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for that no. I have a
neighbor who was given one of thirty-

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five in Daniel' s government.
Yeah, but it' s either wrong

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or it' s a five were
and I know someone who' s read

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some seventy- year- old pretty
much, up to about. What happens

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is that thirty- five when it
was given to that neighbor, the beginning

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of Danilo' s rule persus the
seventies. It' s the same thing,

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basically because the dollard was there when
they gave it to him. Taba

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thirty- thirty and thirty- nine. Out there and he for almost sixty

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thirty- five I leave you on
Saturday when I go and the seafood then

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they are hear pinto, but do
me a favor, dick. Ask him

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the river what you buy already,
ask him