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Today, everybody, this is Less
Strike. Yes, yes I know aka

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Surviving Man and you're listening to Brian
on sasquatchadus you guys, and welcome back

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to Sasquatch. Thank you so much
for being with us for the show.

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It is Friday. I hope you
guys have had a great week. We

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have an amazing guest lined up for
you. But as always, I want

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to start by inviting you. If
you've had an encounter and you'd like to

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be on the show, shoot me
an email you get me a Brian at

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Paranimal World Productions dot com. Can
head over to the website, check it

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out, become a member there and
help support the show. I've talked about

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this a couple times of the last
few weeks. I got to sit down

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with Todd Prescott. He is the
founder and curator of the Sasquatch Archives.

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If you guys haven't checked out the
archives on YouTube, you have got to

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go over there and check out the
content. He has some really amazing,

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rare stuff that you're just not going
to find anywhere else as far as bigfoot

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interviews and evidence, and videos.
It is a great source of information in

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the Bigfoot community. I got to
sit down with Todd and he shared some

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of his personal experiences how the Archives
started. It's a really cool interview.

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I think you guys are really going
to enjoy it. Most of you have

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probably listened to the show that I
put out a couple of weeks ago on

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the Patterson Gimlin film. He was
gracious enough to allow me to use some

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of that ultra rare nineteen sixty seven
interview with Roger and Bob. If you

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haven't listened to that, go back
in the Archives a few shows back and

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listen to that. It is really
really cool. As you listen to this

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right now, I'm actually in Gatlinburg
at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. I'm

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getting ready to handle the encounters there
tomorrow. It's going to be a fantastic

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lineup. So if you are in
the area of Gatlinburg, Tennessee, or

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you can make the trip overnight,
it's a great conference. There still some

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tickets available for general admission. You
can see me and all the other speakers

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on stage. It's going to be
a really good time. Make sure you

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stop by the Paranormal World Production Sasquatch
Odyssey Booth. I'm gonna have tons of

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people there with me. Wayne from
Paranormal Odyssey is going to be there.

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I'm gonna have the guys from the
Kentucky X Files. Tyler and Denny are

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going to be there and chatting.
Bob from the Basement Hangout will be in

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the booth as well. Stop by
see us, grab some merch, get

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a picture with us. We're gonna
have a really good time. I hope

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to see a ton of you there, but for now, I know you

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guys are ready to get into the
show. I'm gonna stop talking. You

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gotta sit back, relax and enjoy
the Show's old to welcome my guests of

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the show, it is the creator
and curator of the Sasquatch Archives, Todd

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Prescott. Welcome to the show,
Todd, thanks for having me on.

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Brian. The Sasquatch Archives is one
of my favorite places for information on the

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web. But when it comes to
Bigfoot Sasquatch. So before we get started

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with anything, I want to say
thank you for putting that together, and

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we'll certainly get into how that came
about. But I like to start in

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the place where I start with most
people. When you talk about sasquatch,

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everybody has a story about what got
them interested in the subject and what got

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them into this thing in the first
place. So if you wouldn't mind,

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let's start there and tell the audience
what that was for you. Yeah,

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I think my story's pretty mundane.
It's probably fairly typical. You know,

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young boy, the world's a big
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or you see it on TV or
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In my case, it was mostly
in books. I was a bookworm and

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probably at age eight or nine in
school hit found zero hundreds in the school

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library. And this is back seventy
so we had a really good collection of

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ufost of Bigfoot, Lockness, monster
stonehang, all the mysteries of the universe.

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And that really hooked me. And
for some reason I really gravitate towards

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Sasquatch, Bigfoot, the Yeddie.
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I would see documentaries on TV.
Of course, magazine articles as well.

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When you're kid, the library has
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in there, and it just one
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got hooked at a young age,
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It was a little tiny village of
three hundred and fifty people. Believe

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it or not. We had well
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had well water, so we didn't
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guess also living on the forest,
My backyard was literally a forest. It

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was intriguing. It wasn't a huge
forest, but it kind of led to

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other forests and it just seemed like
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had Bigfoot in my mind, although
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wasn't big enough. But you know, let your imagination run wild, and

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it did. But then I started
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teens, because now you're free,
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and of course I had read John
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Green talking about Ontario and talking about
specifically place up north where something called Old

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Yellowtop had been sighted from the early
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which was a mining town, and
looking on maps, I realized it was

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maybe five or six hours north of
me, so I thought that's within reach.

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But then I also noticed that there
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in the Niagara region, so you
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SODA's Canada, And so I eventually
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and just trapesing through the woods seeing
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that's that's how it all got started. Really, it had morphed into many

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other things eventually, but like most
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that fired it up. For sure. Well, what was the first thing

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for you? Was it hitting the
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other people's encounters and talking to people
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What was it for you? Honestly, for me, it was hitting

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the woods. Having grown up on
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much of my youth in the woods, I wanted to be out there doing

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it. And truly, the reports
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since, like it was years ago, so they had all passed. There

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was trying to find someone in that
day and age without the internet, it

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was virtually possible you might have a
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And yeah, so if I would
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kind of chasing ambulances, looking for
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encounter one since it had been sighted
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chance, you know, it's still
lingering around food ohs. So yeah,

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for me, it was just getting
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woods, very comfortable in the woods. You know, I don't know what

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the expression is, but I've got
the green thumb of the woods, so

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to speak. And it wasn't until
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I really started documenting stuff. For
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you know, fun, it was
it was exciting, it was was dangerous,

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it was intriguing. That was that
was the appeal, and the allure

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was just just wandering, could could
these things be out there? Might I

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run into one? Might I see
one? And of course with that you

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see other things too that you wouldn't
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woods. So it was it was
sort of fulsome because it's satiated my desire

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to be in the woods and also
my desire to you know, explore the

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unknown and and maybe have a chance
encounter. But yeah, I wasn't really

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following up, particularly with witnesses,
as much as falling up in the areas

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of sightings. Well, eventually all
of that led to I know, you've

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had contact or had contact with some
of the earlier well known researchers in Bigfoot,

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some of the four horsemen of sasquatchery, if you will. What led

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you down that path? How did
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Renee to hand in in those folks? What led you down that road and

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how did that happen? Well,
it's funny because I was just doing everything

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on my own. Growing up in
a village so small, there weren't a

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lot of people to hang out with, and you got to imagine three hundred

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fifty people. I had one close
friend who was two years younger than me,

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which wasn't cool to hang out with
someone younger, but there weren't many

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options and he most certainly wasn't interested
in so so I had to really do

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it all on my own. And
then, you know, as I went

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into my teams and was mobile with
Dad's car, I was able to quote

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and do more searching rather than just
locally. Luck played a big factor in

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my growth as a sasquatch researcher because
I'm a musician and I managed to land

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a really good gig with a touring
band who was touring around the province of

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Ontario, and we actually went to
a lot of the areas mentioned in books

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and newspaper articles. So I found
myself in coal Bolt, Ontario, the

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home of Old Yellow Top, who
had been cited for decades upon decades,

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so I was able to stop in
there and look around. And other places

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too, like North Bay where a
guy had a sighting of a sasquatch picking

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berries, and then even further north
where you get into some of the indigenous

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communities where you just ask and they'll
talk all about what's happening, more openly

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than some people realize, depending I
guess on your approach and demeanor, but

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they were always very welcoming to me
and quite open about things. So with

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the band, it ultimately led to
another band in British Columbia. And for

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those who don't know, of course, British Columbia is kind of the mecca

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of Sasquatch research activity and whatnot,
and it's the most westernly province in Canada,

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so it's on the Pacific Ocean,
and of course has the Coast Mountains

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and the Rocky Mountains, and it's
just a beautiful place, and that,

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of course, is where John Greene
was born and raised, and Renee de

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Hinden showed up there in nineteen fifty
three. Bob Titmus made it his home

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eventually, so two of the four
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ninety five when I got a call
to potentially join a band. I was

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looking for a drum or, some
guys I went to college with a music

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school here in Toronto. They made
their way out west, and I don't

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think they knew my interest in Sasquatch. But when they called and said,

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we really need a drummer, how
about you come out, I said,

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I'm there now, like I'm packing
up my car, and I literally drove.

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I drove across Canada and got to
see a lot of this beautiful country

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and ended up out there for a
good solid year until the band fell apart

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because the singer and the guitar player
were married and things happened, and so

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it didn't last very long as long
as I wanted it to, and I

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really wanted to stay out there,
but things just did work out with what

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was going on in my life.
But when I was out there, of

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course I knew that Renee de Hinden
and John Green were there, so there

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were times we had days off.
We worked mostly Thursday to Saturday or Wednesday

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to Saturday, so I had my
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so I would literally hit all the
hotspots and Harrison Hot Springs, where John

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Green ended up living for many years. Was there in Harrison back in nineteen

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ninety five, so I stopped in
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booth. Members is nineteen ninety five. I don't think anyone had a cell

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phone. If they did, it
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on your car. So I literally
went to phone booth and opened up the

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pages of the full book, found
his name. It was there, John

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Green, and put my whatever it
was a dim or quarter, I can't

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remember, probably a quarter at that
time. Put a quarter in and I

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dialed his number. I think the
phone ranked twice, and then I hear

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a voice hello. It was clearly
an old man, and I just literally

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I freaked out. I got spooked, and all of a sudden, I

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just I was starstruck and I just
hung up. I just couldn't follow through

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with it. I don't know what
overcame me. My intent was to talk

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to him, but I was just
freaked out that and all of a sudden,

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I thought I shouldn't be bothering this
guy. You know, he's got

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so many years invested here. I
am little Todd Prescott from Ontario basically knocking

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on his door. I don't know, it's just it's just all of a

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sudden. It's weird because I fully
intended to talk to this guy, but

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I just chicken right out, and
that's not like me, and I don't

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know why. I guess the stars
were not aligned that that moment, and

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someone said or something said, hang
up, it'll come later. So what

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came later though, was talking to
Renee to Hindon. Now, I had

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moved back to Ontario in ninety six
and was resettling because of what had happened

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at West. So I starting again
trying to get you know, everything happening

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with music realized. With music,
what you leave you know, your area

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and go somewhere else. You've lost
all your gigs and they're left behind,

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and you got to start again because
someone else has swooped in to take your

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gigs. So it was like starting
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being a drummer without a car as
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pick up the drummer. So I
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do a lot field researching, and
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more information available and some other sightings
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it started around that time, and
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Coast Research Group as well. We're
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was really a ninety seven when I
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BC. It's calling me. I
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back to it, and I wanted
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So I was caught between Bella Coola
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the two main places I was going
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Bella Coula. And the reason was
because Renee de Hinden and a guy named

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Dawn Hunter had authored a book in
the early seventies called Sasquatch, and you

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might remember it has a yellow cover
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it, and in the first few
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pages he mentions, and for some
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I thought, Bella Coula. That
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looked on a map and saw where
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it's pretty remote. And basically Renee
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his opinion where you would have an
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have an encounter, it would be
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thought, if Renee is going to
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it. So I started researching as
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and settled on going to Bella Coula. Now, before I went there,

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I called Renee because I had written
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He was living in Richmond, British
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gig in Richmond. I looked the
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went to a fall booth. But
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wasn't after I got spooked with John. I'm like, I'm not going to

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do that again, but oh,
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his number, wrote it down in
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ninety seven, I called him.
I guess it was early May because I

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was in Bellacula in mid May and
I wanted to just talk to him and

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mentioned I was going to Bellacula.
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this scrumpy old man answers the phone
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and I mean he was pretty ticked off

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at the world at that time.
So but I was talking to Renee to

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hind it. That's the first researcher
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up on John Green. So I'm
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a little bit of advice, nothing
earth shattering, but basically, you know,

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take a video camera, which I
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at using my video camera and had
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he also talked about the Patterson Giblin
film. But he was very, very

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jaded. He wasn't happy, and
honestly, he left me. I've said

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this before. He's left me.
He left me with a bad taste in

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my mouth because he wasn't the friendliest
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Renee would love to take you out
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So by I was supposed to be
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mountains because Bella Coula is like an
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side of the bell Coula River are
the mountains and their coastal mountains and their

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rugged and there's a long history of
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just wanted to go in solo.
It was quite foolish now that I think

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of it. Just go into Bellacula
the mountains and have that encounter that Renee

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says you're going to have. It's
you know, my chances are greatest to

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have an encounter there. So that's
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I had a lot of experience capping
in hikings. I felt pretty confident,

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but I had never hiked to that
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I was used to Ontario, which
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in my area. So I was
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never forget. I had to fly
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five hour flight, and then I
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because the only other option was going
by sea, which would have taken a

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while, or driving, which would
have taken forever. So I opted to

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charter a plane and I think it
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For those who don't know, Bella
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halfway up the province of British Columbia, and it's almost on the coast,

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a little bit in from the coast. Just a beautiful area, magical,

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just you feel the power when you're
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know, I'm checking out the community. It's there's not much there. I

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know I have to get across a
river. I didn't know anyone there,

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so I thought I could pay someone
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there I am waiting at the river
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Stay to for more Sasquatch Odyssey.
We'll be right back after these messages.

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And sure enough, this old timer
native guy comes walking over. He's

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like, hey, there go,
Hey, how are you. My name's

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Todd. He says, oh,
I'm the chief about Akula. Said,

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oh, nice to meet you.
And he was like I looked it up

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later on. He was the chief. He thought, who's this white boy

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standing on the shores here at the
backpacks? What's he doing? So I

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talked to him and he was very
curious, and I didn't want to broach

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the subject of sasquatch just yet,
so I tried to warm up to him,

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and he was telling me some some
history about Ellakula, and I basically

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said, I wanted to get to
the other side of the river to do

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a vision quest. Right I was
working pretty hard in Ontario, filling the

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stress. Just wanted to get the
stress off my back and experience what it

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has to offer. So he said, oh, you know, our village

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used to be across the river,
but it used to flood, so we

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moved the whole village over here on
this side that you're standing on, which

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is quite a huge undertaking. And
there's photos of that where they moved the

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whole village. So I thought,
you know this, I'm going to segue

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into sasquatch now, because he seems
to be taking to me. He's warmed

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up to me, So I said, you know, I've read I've read

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about some Sasquatch reports in the area
and he said he kind of paused,

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and he said yes, but he
said that he thought they moved out of

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the area with all the logging.
He said, though, there's another creature

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called Snick, and that's how he
said it with us sort of snick who

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resembles sasquatch, but it's more of
a quadruped so more on four legs,

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a little more aggressive too. He
said, they're still and smaller. They're

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still around, so you might see
one of those any He played across the

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river and said, you're gonna have
a lot of stuff happen over there,

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because they're spirits, you know,
the spirits of our ancestors, this and

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that. And I had brought tobacco, I'd brought some gifts, you know,

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to leave when I when I went
over there, and I made him

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aware of that, so I think
he respected that that I was going to

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honor the land. And then he
said, so you need to get over

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across the river, so I'll get
my nephew and he'll float you across.

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So isn't nephew shows up and flow
to me across. So that that began

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my venture in Bellakula, at least
in the mountains. So I get flowed

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across. And I said to him, come back in a month, come

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back on this specific day. I'll
be here. And if I'm not,

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there's a problem, right because this
is this is before cell phones. I'm

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going in with nothing. I'm there's
I'm just going in, you know,

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I'd let the local authorities know,
like the forest ranger of a major park

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that was close by, and provincial
park, let my parents know. Like

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here's where I'm gonna go. I'm
gonna follow this old logging road. I'm

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gonna get to this other river.
I'm gonna use the bridge to get across.

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Well, of course the map I
was using, the top old map

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was from nineteen fifty eight, so
things change. And I've got this map

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and they didn't know how to waterproof
it. So I literally use scotch tape

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just put like some some like I
guess packing tape overtop. It's keep a

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waterproof. Knowing that it rains there
a lot, I didn't realize that it

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rains here every day. And I
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But anyways, I start my trek
and I've got sixty pounds on my

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back, I've got twenty five pounds
on my front. So I've got a

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front pack and a backpack because I'm
carting food. You know, I've got

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I've got my pots and pans.
I've got I've got the essentials for a

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month. It's it's four weeks.
It's a long time. I was sort

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of banking on on on some wild
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but just wild edibles, I thought. When I lived in BC,

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I noticed that their season was ahead
of Ontario. So I was looking forward

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to berries and some some succulents.
Big mistake because in the mountains things slowed

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down. There was nothing I could
eat really other than some thistle, which

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was not tasty. Anyhow, I
start trekking and within thirty feet I see

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the biggest pile of bear dung,
huge pile. It is just massive.

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And I've seen lots of bear in
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This was insanely huge. I'm going, holy crap. I did not

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expect that. Well. Unbeknownst to
me, this is an area of Canada

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where beat where black bears and grizzly
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Hading know the grizzly bears there,
I wouldn't have gone. Honestly,

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I'm used to black bears, but
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I'll cut to the chase here.
Long story short, I spent only

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two weeks in the forest of Bella
Coola, never saw a sasquatch, had

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the living daylight scared of me a
few times with what I thought was a

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bear counter thought, I thought it
was a baby bear, but it turned

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out to be a grouse that was
screaming like a baby bear. And I

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was just waiting for Mamma to come
flying out of the woods abbey, so

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that made my heart stop. Had
a moose walk up to my tent one

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morning, and then I had a
very treacherous river crossing when I realized the

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bridge had washed out. That bridge
that was there at fifty eight lo and

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behold, wasn't there in nineteen ninety
heaven. So I had a very treacherous

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river crossing because I had to get
to the other side to continue my track.

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And when I got to the other
side, I realized that even the

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trail had overgrown, I couldn't find
the trail. I managed to get back

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maybe a mile or two. After
that, I wasn't going anywhere unless I

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wanted to get lost. So I
doubled back, came back on the river,

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and just laid in the area for
two weeks. And it was scary.

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I felt like a rabbit. You
don't know how vulnerable you are until

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you're out in the elements and nature's
in control. And one night I thought

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I'd eaten something called cleavers. Whatever
was gave me a fever. I thought

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I was going to die. I
broke out into fever, and that same

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night a huge thunderstorm, lightning storm
lightning struck a tree, one of those

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big douglass furs. Sounded like it
was beside my tent. I thought it

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was coming down on my tent because
it came crashing down, so I thought

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it was a goadder. But anyways, I woke up in the morning,

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fever had broke and the tree had
landed hundreds of feet away, but it

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sounded like it was coming right now
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Now again, remember I had talked
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and the plan was to call him
when I came out and to take

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him up for lunch or dinner.
So I get back to civilization, spent

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a little time in Bella Coola,
talked to some more people who had who

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had sightings, and again they kept
mentioning this creature called Snick. And later

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on I did some investigations on Snick, and it's it's truly another, you

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know, another bigfoot type creature according
to the people of Bellacula, just a

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little different. But they see those
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And I get back to Vancouver,
and I was hanging out with some old

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some of the old band guys that
you know, we're still there lingering,

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and I thought I got to call
Renee to Hindon, but I thought,

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I don't want to talk to that
guy. He was so grumpy. It

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wasn't fun talking to him. Honestly, he just wasn't That wasn't my vibe.

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I just come out of my vision
quest. I felt so relaxed,

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I felt purified, and I just
don't want to hear him, you know,

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going on about this and that.
So I didn't. I didn't bother.

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I wish I had of, but
I didn't. I didn't do the

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follow up call, and I do
regret it because I only talked to that

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one time and that was it.
So, uh, you know, my

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time in bc IS is done and
backing material and again I'm just following up

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on reports here and there when it
can. The internet has taken off now,

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so there's you know this, it's
all blowing up and there's so many

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reports to do and follow up on. And at that time I started getting

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involved at the BFRRO, mostly because
it gave you access like two reports that

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were fairly fresh, and I did
that for a while. Now I'll get

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into how I ultimately met up with
John Green many years after the fact,

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I guess using some advanced math,
fifteen years, no, seventeen years after

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the fact, So ninety five was
when I meant to call him, when

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I was basically on his doorstep,
and then it wasn't until twenty twelve when

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I actually met him. But how
that came up about it was I was

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working on a book series on Bakefoot
researchers since around twenty ten, and I

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had collected hundreds and hundreds of names
of old researchers, current researchers, researchers

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who had passed on and you know, I had them all listed out on

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my computer still do. And I
was contacting people Peter Byrne, John Green,

404
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:49.000
Chris Murphy, Larry Lund, who
was who of of Sasquat's research.

405
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:55.559
I was reaching out to them via
email, and I kept I kept emailing

406
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.400
John Green asking him, Hey,
do you mind looking up in your files

407
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.240
some information about it's so and so
because I just read about them. I

408
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.359
don't have any information, there's nothing
online, but maybe you have a letter

409
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.000
from the dude. And and finally
he just got fed up and said,

410
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:12.880
listen, Prescott, I can't keep
doing your research for you, you know.

411
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.680
And he said it in a nice
way. And I would talk to

412
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.480
him on the phone too, because
at that time, you know, he

413
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.559
had changed numbers, but but I
had his number, and so yeah,

414
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.559
he said you got to come out
here and do your own research. And

415
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.200
he said it in a joking way. But but John Green was very serious

416
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.119
too. He was half joking,
half serious. But I got the point,

417
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.599
stop bugging me. I'm an old
man. Do your homework. I

418
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.119
can't keep betting down going through my
files. So I took that as an

419
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.039
offer, and I booked a time
off from work and I flew out to

420
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.440
where he was living, which was
Agacy, which is very close to Harrison

421
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.119
Hot Springs. Little community, quite
nice, and he was living in a

422
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.119
like a retirement community, old age
home. At that time, he was

423
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.880
in his mid eighties, but man, that guy was spry. Holy geez,

424
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.319
So I'll never forget. I show
up and I get into the home

425
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:08.960
where he's living, and you know, there's a lot of residents. They're

426
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.480
kind of looking at who's this who's
this young guy coming in? Right?

427
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.720
And who I don't know their album
each other? Who's this guy? Like,

428
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.839
I'm the I'm the new news,
right? And John Green was in

429
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.160
whatever apartment fourteen or something I don't
know. Knock on the door, knock,

430
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.960
knock. I hear these these feet
sort of shuffling towards the door,

431
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.599
and then the door opens and I
said, oh, hi, John,

432
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:37.839
I've taught Prescott. Hello, godd
go this is a really nice retirement community.

433
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.720
And he and he pauses it,
looks straight in the eye and says,

434
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.119
what's nice about it? We're all
dying here. I'm like, oh,

435
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.799
my good fun. How do you
respond to that? And I said,

436
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.359
ah, well, well, nice
to meet you. And he said

437
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.079
well, come on in, and
he basically no small talk, just the

438
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.440
files are in that room, help
yourself to anything. And then he just

439
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.960
went into the TV room, sat
down, got the newspaper out, continued

440
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.680
reading, and I sat in there
for a good six hours, and I

441
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.640
came out to just say a low
and tell him how things were going.

442
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.000
And he was still reading his newspaper, and he put his glasses down and

443
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.160
looked at me and said, I'm
glad you're here. He was lonely because

444
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.799
his wife had passed away. He
was very lonely. So I feel good

445
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.599
that that maybe I brightened up his
time when he was there, because I

446
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.599
was there, I'm gonna say,
for five days straight on that visit,

447
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.200
and now realize that I didn't know
the extent of his collection. I'd heard

448
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:44.160
rumors, but his collection it was
literally I think it was three filely cabinets,

449
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.920
like like you know big file cabs
you see in office buildings, chalk

450
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:56.599
full of letters, communications dating back
to I think fifty five, and handwritten

451
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:01.480
letters, typed letters right up until
I think a loud one was twenty eleven.

452
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.640
He was writing a guy named Wayne
King, who was an old Michigan

453
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.319
researcher and Andy Green had he followed
my letters too, because I was writing

454
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.480
him as well, so I was
like, oh, my letters are that's

455
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.880
pretty cool. But I was a
mental in the big sea because there were

456
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.039
so many people. And I right
away went to you know that the Grover

457
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:27.000
Krantz file, that Peter Burne file, Bob Titmos file, the Renee de

458
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.720
hind In file, and I just
went through those, and again I didn't

459
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.240
know how much stuff he had,
so I wasn't prepared. I had a

460
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.119
notebook and a pen. I didn't
have a scanner. I had a really

461
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.480
crappy cell phone that pittures wouldn't have
been worth taking. So I just took

462
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.880
notes and if I'm not mistaken,
the first day I was there, I

463
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.319
only got halfway through the Grover Krantz
file because there's hundreds of letters. You

464
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.119
have to read them to see what's
in there. And I went, oh

465
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.799
my god, this is overwhelming.
I'm not going to get this done in

466
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:05.119
five days. I didn't know what
I was getting into. So I was

467
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.200
there for five days and eventually John
said, hey, join me for lunch.

468
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.720
I'll pay. I'm like, oh
wow, that's okay. I'll pay

469
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.599
John, No, no, it's
on me. Join me, sir,

470
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.319
supper, I'll pay. Let's go
for a walk, let's talk. So

471
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.279
it was amazing because here I am
in the company of, you know,

472
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.839
one of the grandfathers of Sasquat's research, the guy who really put the subject

473
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.920
on the map, and I'm sitting
in his home and of going through his

474
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.799
files. It was surreal. I
was I was living history, reliving history.

475
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.400
And then these walks. I couldn't
keep up with the guy. He

476
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:43.000
was just ripping down through these fields. I'm going, holy geez man.

477
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.559
And he had a bad foot,
but he was just always in a hurry,

478
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.319
and every now and then he would
just come in and see what I

479
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.200
was doing, kind of look at
what file him going through, and then

480
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.519
he you know, interject and talk
about what was going on in the letter.

481
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.799
The guy's memory was pretty sharp at
that time. There were some things

482
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.599
he forgotten, but it was amazing. Once you showed him something, he

483
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.920
would remember it. And then he
showed me his his slide collection, his

484
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.760
negatives, his photos, and they
said, oh, I've got these cassettes

485
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.679
recorded of interviews. You might be
interested in those. I'm like, oh,

486
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.719
my God. So my five days
were up, and I said,

487
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.400
John, I hate to leave,
but I have to go back to work.

488
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.320
I would love to come back at
some point and scan this stuff.

489
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:30.719
It needs to be archived and save
digitally because it's vulnerable it's paper. And

490
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.000
he said, oh, I don't
think it's that important. You know,

491
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.119
no one, no one really cares
about this stuff. Yeah, it's it's

492
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:44.480
not important. I'm John. This
stuff is really important. This is this

493
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:49.880
is history, whether Sasquatch has ever
found or not. This is of cultural

494
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.000
importance, right, And I don't
think so, you know, it's just

495
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.360
gonna get trashed when I'm gone.
And I don't think it, John,

496
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.800
No, like, seriously, really
think about it, really think about this.

497
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.679
This is important. If I'm here
doing what I'm doing, it's important

498
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.079
to me, and I know important
others too. And I said, my

499
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.400
good buyes. And he had said, Joe, you can come back because

500
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.280
you didn't finish. So I had
I planned a month later to come back,

501
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.360
but this time for I think eight
days. So I came back and

502
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.400
this time when he greeted me at
the door, he was more cheery and

503
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.760
he said, you know, Todd, I thought about what you said about

504
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:31.239
scanning it, You're welcome to scan
it. And I had brought a scanner

505
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:35.760
this time, so so I was
prepared. It was only a little tiny

506
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.840
hand wand scanner. It wasn't good
enough, so I had to go into

507
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.840
Vancouver, drive an hour and a
half away and get a real scanner at

508
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.280
one of those best buys. But
then I started scanning stuff, and it

509
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:52.239
was literally from nine am in the
morning, after breakfast because John woke up

510
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.480
early week go. We had breakfast
his treat, and I got to meet

511
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.280
all his friends, and he talked
about yell the old days, sasquashed stuff.

512
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.480
Everyone in the place knew he was
a sut squad researcher. John Green

513
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.760
was also the mayor for a while
of Harrison ods Spring, so he was

514
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.480
kind of a celebrity there in his
own right. So I would I would

515
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:14.559
scan literally from nine am, with
a break here and there, untill whenever

516
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.960
John went to sleep. Sometimes he
stayed up to eleven o'clock at night.

517
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.079
Sometimes he went to bed at eight
thirty, and I'd stop scanning because it's

518
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.000
kind of loud, you know.
And there are a few times where I

519
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.039
snuck in scanning because I wanted to
get something done and never woke him up.

520
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.800
But I had. I have thousands
and thousands and thousands of files.

521
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.119
You got a figure. Most letters
aren't just one page. There are three

522
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:43.239
or four pages. Sometimes some of
them are nine to twelve pages, so

523
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.960
each each page has to be scanned. I scanned all the photos that he

524
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.440
gave me to look at, all
the negatives, all the slides that he

525
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:58.639
gave me. I made cassette recordings
of his cassette recordings, so I dubbed

526
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.960
those. Thank god, he had
a dual cassette player recorder, which was

527
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.239
great, but finding blank cassettes in
Agacy, British Columbia was not easy.

528
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:15.039
So and after I did that,
I'm sitting on all these files, thousands

529
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:20.920
upon thousands at photos. I've got
to go through it all because when i'm

530
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.800
scanning them, i'm not reading them. I'm just put the sheet on the

531
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.119
scanner, get the next one ready, And it's just it's a factory.

532
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.119
I actually have a video of me
doing it. It's nuts. It's just

533
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.800
NonStop, literally for eight hours,
ten hours, sometimes twelve hours, and

534
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.440
I get home and I'm going,
wow, that was a lot. So

535
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.960
I was at John's place three times, so there's three different visits, and

536
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.639
then a fourth visit was he had
moved, but I just dropped into say

537
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.440
a Loo see how he was doing. Because his health it really went south

538
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.920
at that point, so it's almost
like saying goodbye. And it was on

539
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.320
my way to Beach Foot with Chris
Murphy and Thomas Steamberg car cooling down there,

540
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.920
so I stopped in to see John
and sure after there he passed away.

541
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.760
But back home, I'm literally reading
every single letter from start to finish.

542
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.079
I'm summarizing every single letter from start
to finish, it just as a

543
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:21.000
basic summary of what the letters about. And then I indexed every single letter

544
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:27.000
so if if someone mentions Bella Coola, I you know, I index that.

545
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.800
And it took me three years,
no word a lie. Took me

546
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:38.760
three years to go through everything to
summarize, index file it, properly organize

547
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.360
it and all the photos as well. So it was a huge undertaking.

548
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.719
And then I thought to myself,
this stuff needs to be shared, and

549
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.280
John said share. If it's mine, you could share it. If it's

550
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.360
not my photo, I can't tell
you could share it. But if I

551
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.280
have it, it's probably mine.
There were some stuff that he had that

552
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.920
wasn't really his, but a lot
of people have passed on. But yeah,

553
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.679
So I started sharing it on YouTube, a little bit of the stuff,

554
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.079
some of the stuff that would be
most interesting that hadn't seen the light

555
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.880
of day, some old letters and
things like that, and I thought,

556
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.920
well, I got to come up
with a name, so I called it

557
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.960
my YouTube channel, thus Sasquatch Archives, and just started sharing stuff there,

558
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.840
realizing that there's just too much to
share, but I'll get out the stuff

559
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.440
that people are most interested in.
And there was one thing that I'd never

560
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:30.880
seen anywhere other than a transcription of
it on Bobby Short's big Foot Encounters website.

561
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:37.199
It was an interview with Roger Patterson
and Bob Giblin on October twenty sixth,

562
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:45.199
nineteen sixty seven, So six days
after the Patterson Giblin film, they

563
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.639
went to show the film in Vancouver
at the University of British Columbia to scientists,

564
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:57.159
and they were interviewed following the showing. So their recollection of the events

565
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.840
is very fresh, and a lot
of people bull for some reason, believe

566
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:07.639
that they were in Bluff Creek for
three weeks stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey.

567
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:14.960
We'll be right back after these messages. They weren't. They were there

568
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.440
for about a week and a half, so nine or ten days, and

569
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.480
Roger talks about that in that interview, and it's also captured in other interviews.

570
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.360
A little later. Somewhere along the
line, someone came up with a

571
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.360
three week timeline, and Bob Gimblin
has been saying that in his presentation,

572
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.400
but it's actually not true because you
want to go to the earliest recollections and

573
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:42.239
recalls of the events and and even
early magazine articles, they're talking about a

574
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.159
nine to ten days. Even John
Green's book he talks about in the Sasquatch

575
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.239
Seams and Mongus, he talks about
it being nine days. I don't know

576
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.079
when it happened, but just for
all you officionados out there, it's it's

577
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.440
not three weeks, it's nine to
ten days. They were in Bluff Creek,

578
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.519
which makes sense because they had they
had horses with them. What are

579
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.480
you going to feed the horses?
Why are you going to eat for three

580
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.519
weeks? That's a long time to
be out there. So it was a

581
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.599
week and a half. And how
did anyone get that much time off for

582
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.039
work, that's or from the family. That's a long time review way,

583
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.199
what wife in the right mind would
let their man go away their husband for

584
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:22.599
three weeks into Bluff Creek. So
John Green had that interview, He had

585
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.159
that interview, he had the audio
of that interview. It had never seen

586
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.519
the light at day. I think
some people had it, but I guess

587
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.559
no one had the means to transfer
it, make it digital, put it

588
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:36.280
up on YouTube. So I asked
John, Hey, can I put this

589
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.760
up on the internet. Well,
maybe you should run it by Patricia Patterson,

590
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.119
Like, I don't think so.
I could call a Patricia, she's

591
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.000
old too. She wouldn't have the
copyrights radio station. So I tried to

592
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.760
track down the radio station. No
one knew anything about it. And really

593
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.079
it wasn't the full interview. There's
still half or a portion of the interview's

594
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.880
missing. John only had twenty minutes
of the interview. So I put that

595
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.719
up and a lot of traction,
and then from there other things like Fred

596
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.920
Beck being interviewed audio by Roger Patterson. So there's some stuff up there that's

597
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.719
pretty unique at cool. And then
ultimately other people came into the fold,

598
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.840
such as a Larry Lund through a
guy named Gene Robinson who has sent me

599
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.719
hordes of stuff, old videotapes,
mostly ninety stuff, but there's other stuff

600
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.320
in there too from the past.
So I have to, you know,

601
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.800
thank Larry, Thank Gene Robinson.
There's a bunch of people who have been

602
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.519
instrumental in helping out with the Sasquatch
Archives, at least giving permission to use

603
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.960
stuff. So that's the Sasquatch Archives
in a nutshell, and how things led

604
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.559
up to the Sasquatch Archives. So
that's where we are now. I know

605
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.880
there's a lot there, But is
there anything outside of maybe the Patterson Gimblin

606
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.000
interview five or six days after the
fact, was there anything that shocked you

607
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:59.920
or really stood out to you that
you went through during your time of process

608
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.079
all this information that he had stored. Maybe it was just something that you

609
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:06.320
didn't believe or wouldn't have believed he
would have kept, or maybe a piece

610
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.440
of evidence or a photo or something
that you saw. Was there anything that

611
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:14.800
really stuck out and maybe surprised you. There were a few things that stood

612
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:20.559
out and and maybe at least one
or two that surprised me. One thing

613
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:28.000
that surprised me was John Green absolutely
detested Peter Byrne, just hated him.

614
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:34.639
I have my theories as to why
that is. And of course John Green

615
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.679
basically thought that Peter wasn't an honest
man, let's say. And later on

616
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:45.639
in life Peter did run into some
trouble with some legal issues, let's say.

617
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:52.519
But I was surprised because John didn't
trash talk anyone else. He seemed

618
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.679
to be okay with everyone else,
including people like Eric Beck George, who

619
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:04.960
was the bane of Researcher's existence back
then. Everyone loathed that guy, John

620
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.920
Green, and I asked him flat
out, I said, John, why

621
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:14.159
were you continuing your communications with Eric
Beck Jordan, knowing that he's delusional and

622
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.400
not all there and harassing people at
three in the morning and making death threats?

623
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.519
And John said, he never did
that to me. He called me

624
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.840
once at three in the morning.
I said, don't ever do that again,

625
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.840
and he never did it again.
I got along with the guy.

626
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.079
I didn't have a problem with him. Just because I was writing him letters

627
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:36.639
doesn't mean I agreed with him.
I found him to have fairly intelligent things

628
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.199
to say, but I didn't agree
with everything, but Peter Byrne, Oh,

629
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.159
my God, mentioned that name,
and wow, John was all the

630
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:51.920
fangs came out and the horns came
up. I mean John John Green put

631
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:57.119
together like a like a little booklet
all about Burne and how he was a

632
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.000
fraud and this and that, and
he called it, I can't remember now,

633
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.039
like Peter and the Wolf or something, and it was a play on

634
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:08.559
that whole thing. And he mailed
it out to people. He just detested

635
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:13.719
Peter Byrne. It was shocking because
I mean I knew, but I didn't

636
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.840
know to what extent. He just
did not like Peter Byrne. But he

637
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:22.760
got along with everyone else and people
that you would never imagine he'd get along

638
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:28.159
with, even Renee to Hindon,
who wrote John some horrible letters. For

639
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.639
many years, Renee just was not
a nice man. And some people wonder

640
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.400
if it was because he was dealing
with lead. He was, he was

641
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:43.119
excavating lead, the lead shot from
the gun club, and maybe he was

642
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.159
suffering from lead poisoning and it and
it messed up his mind a little bit

643
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.880
because he was a nice guy in
the early days. You can hear him

644
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.199
on old interviews from fifty seven fifty
eight. He was a super nice kid,

645
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:59.880
but somewhere along the way he became
very jaded and and gruppy and just

646
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.519
almost like an ugly guy. And
you can see that in some of the

647
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:08.320
videos that I have. He's just
he doesn't agree with anyone. He's always

648
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:14.000
right, but it's not fair to
talk behind his back when he's not alive

649
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:15.880
to defend himself. But he was
a gruff man, let's put it that

650
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.920
way. He was gruff, very
opinionated, and that's fine. But John,

651
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.559
like Renee, would write him a
letter, I'm gonna ff ensue you.

652
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.039
You know, you won't have money
to feed your children and this and

653
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.239
that. And I've got these letters. I'm reading them, going, holy

654
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:37.639
geez, Renee, that's vicious.
And John would right back saying, hey,

655
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.239
Renee, I just still want to
borrow those photos that we talked about

656
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.000
last week on the phone. Like
it just it was just like water off

657
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.480
of John's back. It was bizarre. It was almost like an old married

658
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.840
couple. So that was a bit
shocking how much he hated Peter Byrne and

659
00:46:52.960 --> 00:47:00.440
tolerated Renee and Eric Beck Jordan.
That was odd. I was pleasantly prized

660
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.679
by all the photos John had,
photos of Bluff Creek, Blue Creek Mountain,

661
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.280
that whole investigation, things of Bob
Titmus, even John going to Bella

662
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.960
Coola with Bob Timos, which I
could you know, relate to, and

663
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.960
then just photos from his investigations,
his outings. He let me look at

664
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.960
family photos. There's old film of
him and his family together. That was

665
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.360
that was touching to see some of
that stuff. So I'm sitting on a

666
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.679
lot of photos, some of them
make their way into videos that I put

667
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.480
together. Hey yeah, A that
that really was touching to see that stuff

668
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.239
because I literally cried a few times
looking at some of that, those those

669
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:45.039
photos and reading the letters and slides
and negatives and the clearest photos, like

670
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.320
the Bossberg stuff clear as day that
you've never seen because when it's in a

671
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.559
book or a magazine, it's just
it's I'm looking at the original, right,

672
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.039
so and like I'm looking at the
negative. So I'm looking at the

673
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:02.239
original. And then something that really
surprised me, and I don't know if

674
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:08.239
it shocked me, but pleasantly surprised
was there was always rumors about or talk

675
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.119
about Roger never finishing its documentary.
You know, the reason he went to

676
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.280
Bluff Creek because he was working on
a documentary about Big Book, and everyone

677
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:22.760
says, well, he never the
incomplete unfinished documentary. So I believed it

678
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.960
because that's what people are saying,
and you read about in books and people

679
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:31.280
are talking about it. But then
I caught wind of someone coming into possession

680
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.400
of something that looked like Patterson's documentary. It was Russ Jones, doctor Russ

681
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:38.920
Jones. He had reached out to
me and said, hey, Todd,

682
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:45.800
I've got something here you might be
interested in. It's like Roger interviewing people

683
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.800
and you know, some footage.
And I thought, oh, I've seen

684
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.800
that. You know, I've got
that stuff, not knowing what was being

685
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.039
described, and so I said,
yeah, that's cool, and he said,

686
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.280
I think I'm gonna rush it.
I think I'm gonna give it to

687
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.079
the China Flats Museum because they think
they should have it, or maybe Patricia

688
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:07.199
Patterson because it seems like it's property
of theirs. And he ultimately gave it

689
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:14.400
to Michael he has the museum in
California, Michael Rugg. Michael Rugg Rugg.

690
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.480
He passed it on to Michael Rugg, who who gave it to Patricia,

691
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.159
but Russ kept some of the paperwork
and he's like, these are like

692
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:27.039
receipts and stuff, and it's talking
about showing the film here and how much

693
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.440
they got and ticket sales. So
I'm kind of curious now, and Russ

694
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.960
said, well, I'm gonna bring
it to Ohio for one of the big

695
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.840
Foot conferences that's happening. I think
it was the twenty twelve Big Book Conference,

696
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.400
and we're gonna show it on the
big screen. Michael, geez,

697
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.239
I gotta see what this is.
And I was going to the conference anyways.

698
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.559
So I went to the conference and
there the show. He only had

699
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:53.199
the first half of the documentary,
but it's Roger Patterson's documentary made in nineteen

700
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.639
sixty eight. I'm going this thing
exists. This is like the Holy Grail.

701
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.039
It's real now. So we only
have half of it, and now

702
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.960
it's back in Patricia's hands, but
a few copies float around, because you

703
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.599
know, smartly, Russ made a
few DVD copies and I got one.

704
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.920
Now I'm at Beach Foot twenty fourteen, Todd Niece's event, and there's a

705
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.760
guy from I can't say too much
for there's a guy from the BBC.

706
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.400
He's there and he's doing a story
on big footers and he and I,

707
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.320
for some reason, we hit it
off. We're both fans of the same

708
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.840
bands. We got talking and like, oh my god, we're like brothers

709
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.519
from another mother. Really hit it
off. And I said, you worked

710
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.440
for the BBC. I need you
to do me a favor. I need

711
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:45.519
you to look up a film,
a documentary that was done with Roger Patterson.

712
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.159
Here's the name. See if you
could find this. Because Patterson's documentary

713
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:57.280
was done in tandem with the BBC
British Broadcasting Corporation. Patterson didn't have the

714
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:01.639
means to do it himself, and
that BBC had caught winds through Avin Sanderson

715
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.760
that Patterson was working on a documentary, and of course they were aware of

716
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.000
the Patterson Giblet film, so they
thought, hey, we've got maybe enough

717
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.159
material to make a documentary. This
is in nineteen sixty eight. So the

718
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:19.360
BBC cut a deal with Roger where
they would give some footage, send a

719
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:24.280
camera crew over do some footage for
Roger, with the understanding that they could

720
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:30.079
use the Patterson Giblet film footage and
Roger could use whatever they come back with

721
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:36.679
for his purposes, but he couldn't
He couldn't release it on TV or make

722
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.639
a movie, but he could show
it in theaters, and that's when he

723
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.920
connected. Patterson connected with a guy
named Ron Olson, who was with American

724
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:51.079
National Enterprises ANE the First an E, and Olson and his twin brother were

725
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.239
fascinated with Bigfoot, and they connected
with Roger and Roger's brother in law,

726
00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:00.960
ld Atlee, and they started four
walling what the BBC gave him. But

727
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:07.800
first Patterson he didn't like all of
the BBC version of the documentary because it

728
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.719
was hosted by primatologist doctor John Napier, and Napier was kind of sitting on

729
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.320
the fence and in one breath he'd
say, you know, I don't see

730
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.760
a zipper, but it can't be
real because it walks like a man,

731
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:27.840
but it has breasts, it just
and and primates other than humans don't show

732
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.639
rest pendulous breast, so this must
be fake. But I don't see a

733
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:37.239
zipper. So of course Patterson didn't
want that. He wanted only the pro

734
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.960
opinions to show in his version of
the documentary, so he cut and paced,

735
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:46.039
spliced, and he added some stuff
too, including a whole long,

736
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.519
boring monologue of his brother in law
Aldatley, introducing the film and talking about

737
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.920
the organization, because Patterson had an
organization where you could mail in for you

738
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.199
send him three bucks and he'd give
you, like, you know, a

739
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:04.039
membership to his club. That fell
through, and he did, really he

740
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.039
had to. He had refund money
back on that. He lost money on

741
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:12.400
that. So that documentary. I
wanted to find the other half of it,

742
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:17.000
and I wanted to find both versions, because Russell only had Roger's version.

743
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.599
And I found out that there was
a BBC version, and I asked,

744
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.239
this guy from the BBC CP can
find it. It's got to be

745
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:30.760
somewhere. Now. You may know
that the British Broadcasting Corporation are famous,

746
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:36.760
rather infamous for misfiling and losing stuff. They have a horrible system. Apparently,

747
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.159
so a couple of months ago by
in this guy who shall remain nameless

748
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.119
because I think he still worked for
him and I don't want to lose his

749
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:47.199
job. He reaches out and says, taught I found it. It was

750
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:53.440
it was filed under a wildcat.
Wildcat Are you serious? He's like,

751
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.000
all burn a copy. It's it's
like on sixteen mil A'll burn a coffee

752
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.239
and bob your uncle. You know
you got it, just don't share it,

753
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.159
Like, don't don't share it.
I'm like, okay, sure enough

754
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.039
it comes to the mail. I'm
like, oh my god, this is

755
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:14.559
amazing. It's the whole documentary,
the BBC version that as far as I

756
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:20.760
know, hadn't aired since nineteen sixty
eight. And eventually, well I shouldn't

757
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.559
say eventually. He had sent me
the worksheet with it that gave the information

758
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.440
when it aired, the length,
who had starred, all all the deeds.

759
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:34.039
And it aired on July twenty seventh, nineteen sixty eight, and it

760
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:38.119
only aired one time, and it's
about an hour long. And there were

761
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:42.519
some names mentioned at the end of
you know, the credits at the end.

762
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.480
So I tried to track down those
people, all of whom had passed

763
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:51.519
on except for one cameraman. So
I connected with this cameraman and I talked

764
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.280
to him, and he was the
guy in the US. He was American,

765
00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:00.480
and he did a lot of the
footage in Washington, in state in

766
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.079
California and some of the interview stuff
that shows up to the dock as well.

767
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:09.119
So there that this documentary does exist. It's there. There's two different

768
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.039
versions. I've got the British,
the BBC version up on my channel.

769
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.760
Now I had to wait. I
realized that I didn't have permission, and

770
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.119
I'd reached out to the BBC and
they basically said, you can't do anything

771
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.679
with a pale. But then I
did some investigation, got my lawyer involved

772
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.519
and he did some investigation and he
said, listen, there's there's a copyright

773
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:39.480
loophole in the UK. Basically,
anything that airs on TV fifty years after

774
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:45.599
the fact has no copyrate anymore.
Copyrate's done. So I had to wait

775
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:50.719
until twenty eighteen, fifty years before
I could release it. And I think

776
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.800
it was twenty nineteen that I made
it public because I wanted to make sure

777
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:59.159
that I wasn't going to get sued
or something. So it's up on the

778
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:04.880
Sasquatch Archive channel. It's called it's
called Bigfoot America's Abominable Snowman. You'll see

779
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.679
the most footage of Roger Patterson.
Ever, you won't see his brother in

780
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:14.840
law because it's the British Broadcasting Corporation
version. Patterson's own version is shorter.

781
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:20.159
That's the one he took it around
the theaters and schools across the Pacific Northwest

782
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:24.719
back in sixty nine through seventy and
early seventy one, and he took it

783
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:30.320
as far as Michigan State and showed
it for a fee, and they made

784
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:31.239
some money from it. There's no
doubt they made some money from it.

785
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:37.400
And then Patterson got really sick with
leukemia and didn't continue with that. Plus

786
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:45.360
they had basically saturated the market with
it, because honestly, by by those

787
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.519
standards, it wasn't a good documentary. Even back in sixty eight sixty nine,

788
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:51.239
it wasn't a good documentary, like
as far as how it was put

789
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:58.320
together as very low budget. By
today's standards, it's amazing insomuch as the

790
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.599
history historic value. And I can
appreciate that. I do have the full

791
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:09.840
version of Patterson's own, but I
can't really release that because it is copyright

792
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:14.639
and I have to go through Patricia
Patterson to get permission to release that.

793
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.159
And she's not doing so well and
her son is looking after things, and

794
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:21.719
I haven't really been in touch with
him. So if he's listening and he

795
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.320
doesn't mind, I would love to
host out on the channel. People would

796
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:28.559
love to see it is. It
is different, quite different than the BBC

797
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:32.119
version, although quite similar as well, So that I think to answer your

798
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:38.079
question, Brian, I think that
that was probably the most shocking thing was

799
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:45.239
that that documentary did get finished,
does exist toured around and that documentary a

800
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:50.519
young ten year old Jeff Meldram saw
it in the theater, he saw it

801
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.519
shown, and that's what really sparked, you know, someone who allowed to

802
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:59.800
look up to and treat as the
go to scientists nowadays, so that documentary

803
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:01.920
art is interested in the subject.
So there you go, great story.

804
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.480
That's one of the things that doctor
Milton talked about when I had him on

805
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.480
the show was how that sort of
set him a blaze when it came to

806
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:13.400
the bigfoot subject and send him down
the path that he's been on for how

807
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.079
many decades now? I would be
remiss if I didn't ask you this before

808
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.039
you get out of here. Have
you had personal experiences of your own when

809
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.960
you've been out in the woods looking
for these things? So I guess I'll

810
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:29.559
say yes and no. I can't
say with any certainty what I experienced or

811
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.800
what was what was happening on the
other side of the bushes, But I'll

812
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:37.639
say that some interesting things have happened, some things when I'm alone, but

813
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:42.760
mostly with other people, which is
great. For instance, a pretty intense

814
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.440
bluff charge of something huge happened when
I was alone. It happened and I

815
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.239
had I have a thermal imager,
but anyways, whatever it was was huge,

816
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:57.360
big, and it came charging towards
me twice five minutes apart. I

817
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.440
couldn't see it. I've seen bears
on my THRM life, seen deer in

818
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.880
my thermal. Whatever it was was
able to hide behind something or below something.

819
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.800
But it was freaky because I've been
doing a food drop for many months,

820
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:15.800
hoping to you know, entice a
sasquatch into the area, and I

821
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.320
would do I would do a four
whistle coal in each direction, four whistles

822
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.800
south, four whistles north the head
like at one of those Jim Jim whistles

823
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.599
for east for west, to announce
my arrival in the area. And I

824
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:29.760
would also do it when I dropped
the food. And right after I dropped

825
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:35.239
the food blew my whistle started walking
back up the path soft and came crashing

826
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.440
at me like it was a tank. It was loud as you know what,

827
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.760
and it freaked me out. I'm
very comfortable in the woods. But

828
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:46.920
whatever this was, it was angry, like it was coming at me,

829
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:50.280
and I thought it was a bear. You know, it takes a while

830
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.800
to get the flur warmed up and
stuff. I finally get it on and

831
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.719
I can't see out that. I'm
thinking, that's weird because bears don't usually

832
00:59:54.760 --> 01:00:00.800
hide. I've seen bears with my
thermal. Stay tuned for more sasquatch odyssee.

833
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:08.559
We'll be right back after these messages. Anyways, I'm thinking, well,

834
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.519
maybe I imagined it because I don't
see nothing. I continue walking on

835
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.880
the path, and it happened again, maybe five minutes later, same exact

836
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:21.239
thing, and but but the thrmals
on and ready. This time again I

837
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.840
couldn't see nothing, and I thought, Okay, whatever's bluff charge of me

838
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:27.639
doesn't want me to be here,
Let's get the heck out of here.

839
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.840
So I started double stepping out of
there. And it's a mile back to

840
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.920
my car. So it was a
it was a pretty yeah, pretty freaky

841
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.519
walk home or walk back from my
car. It was. It was an

842
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.159
unnerving, let's say, but anyways, I don't know what it was.

843
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.480
Another time in that same area.
It was with a buddy, and there

844
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.679
was this other lady that we just
she was just there walking her dogs she

845
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.360
had, she has two three quarter
wolves, so so she needs to walk

846
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.400
him in this forest so they don't
eat other dogs. And we thought it

847
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:59.000
was a wolf that approached us,
and my buddy's like, dude, there's

848
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.719
a wolf right there. And I'm
like, holy shit, there's a wolf

849
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.960
right there. And then we see
this late like we see a flash lighten

850
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.920
and we're thinking, who's back here
three in the morning, you know,

851
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:10.079
out of the middle of nowhere,
and so we call this Day's like,

852
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:13.320
oh, sorry, my dog's over
there. Don't be alarmed. It looks

853
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.199
like a wolf. It's just a
three quarter wolf. Don't worry. So

854
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.760
she comes over and talks to us, and she tells us some stories that

855
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.920
have happened in this forest because we're
she's curious, why are you guys here,

856
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.360
and we're curious, why are you
here? So she explained that she

857
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.119
can only walk her dogs in this
area. But she talks about a few

858
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.599
things that were freaky that probably were
related to big Foot, including finding a

859
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.440
huge footprint, bare footprint, and
her dogs cowering out her feet. Something

860
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:43.119
was screaming and running towards her.
Dogs. Cowered, these are big emimals.

861
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.199
They're three quarter wolves. They're huge, intimidating. She said, they

862
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:50.239
don't cower for nothing. These things
were whippering out her feet and they stayed

863
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.119
there for three seconds and then they
ran away from her. She thought I

864
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.719
better run too. So she doesn't
know what it was, but something was

865
01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.440
crashing through the forest towards her,
screaming. She said, it sound like

866
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.519
a woman being knife to death,
and it was screaming at the top of

867
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.360
his lungs. Anyways, so we're
standing there talking to her. Her dogs

868
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.639
are in the truck now and they're
growling, and she said, well,

869
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.800
I don't worry. The dogs are
just not comfortable with me talking to you.

870
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:16.519
And then we hear something walking up
a path. It's completely dark.

871
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:21.079
It's now three thirty four o'clock in
the morning, and my hearing is not

872
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.199
that great because I'm a drummer.
And my buddy says, someone's walking up

873
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.000
them happen, like, who else
is that hear? What's going on?

874
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:30.760
And so we sort of stop him
listen, and then something shakes a tree

875
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:37.039
and it was a huge tree just
that's a big tree. We went and

876
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.039
looked at this tree. My buddy, he's a big dude. He could

877
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.920
not He and I could not move
the tree. Whatever it was shook the

878
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.400
tree could have been a bear.
The dogs are freaking out. Whatever it

879
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.559
was. We heard a walk around
sort of circled us, and then it

880
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.639
was gone. In that same area, heard wood knocks, and then in

881
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:58.079
Pennsylvania we had rocks rolling at us
in an area that we know there's no

882
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.079
one there. Again, I had
my therm and two nights rocks rowing out

883
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:07.360
us. Another time, I saw
what it can only describes I glow,

884
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.760
I shine, I glow. I
was with two other people and I didn't

885
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:15.039
know about iglow at the time,
so I didn't make an association with sasquatch

886
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.320
or anything. Again, I don't
know what it was, but it was

887
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:22.679
definitely looked like eyes glowing, and
it changed color from white to yellow,

888
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:28.840
ambered orange and then back and the
intensity. It was weird because the intensity

889
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:32.199
changed and we don't know what it
was, but it blinked, so we

890
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:36.800
could only conclude they were eyes.
But I don't know what was behind those

891
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.920
eyes. Have I seen one?
I saw a tuft of hair that may

892
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.360
have been a sasquatch. It happened
very quickly. It was the daytime in

893
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.039
Seashelts, which is Sunshine Coast,
British Columbia. I was with my then

894
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:50.519
girlfriend and I don't know what it
was, but it was freaky and whatever

895
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:53.239
it was parted like it was swimming
through berry brambles. You could see the

896
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:58.280
brambles parting, which a bear couldn't
do, like they were parting, you

897
01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:00.920
know, twelve feet up in the
air. Basically, I don't know what

898
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:02.920
it was. I just saw it
like a shoulder and it was gone.

899
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:06.960
But that's pretty much Yet I can't
say with any certainty or conclusively I've seen

900
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:12.119
a sasquatch. I'm in the same
boat with you, man, Tid Prescott.

901
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.840
Thank you so much for coming on
and sharing your amazing archive of knowledge,

902
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.639
and everybody go over and check out
the Sasquatch Archives. I'll have it

903
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:25.440
linked in the show notes. It's
a place for anybody who's interested in anything

904
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.599
Bigfoot. If you're into the history
of this and people who made their way

905
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.039
into this many many years before any
of us started doing any of the things

906
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.559
we're doing. Go check out the
Sasquatch Archives, tid Prescott. Thanks so

907
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:39.960
much for joining us. Man,
I've had a blast talking to you.

908
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.360
Thanks Brian, it was my pleasure. Thank you so much. They say

909
01:04:44.599 --> 01:05:20.719
you don't gotta go home, but
you cast say, trying to try that

910
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:29.159
chime everything, call it back,
bright back, my choice for me to

911
01:05:29.239 --> 01:06:45.880
stay right now, to call it
right away, unassus us to us, Jesus