WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:13.960 I'm okay. I just it's in the face. Yea. She want to 2 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:19.480 stay singing to you preach that guy. Don't decide to tell me you mom, 3 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:21.079 you can't keep it. Really, if you really don't trust me, 4 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:22.960 you come with a really you have up in the front so you get my 5 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.079 meals. I'm conning for the money, money in the back. Come on 6 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:28.120 with a dank scrolling that tank, rolling with the gang. You're sitting on 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:30.440 the sideline trip. I go to the whole of the rock light tippot. 8 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:37.840 Yes, I'm okay. I want to throw everybody. Welcome back to the 9 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.000 women to have you weights, live on woolbrid sports, make sure you smash 10 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:45.439 that like button share, tell your friends do all that good stuff. I 11 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:50.560 am Spencer Axer. I am here with Nicholas co Off and Christopher Platty and 12 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:55.079 of course, as always to my left, we have the esteemed Casper the 13 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.479 friendly Ghost. Hello, nice to see you, good, good to have 14 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.679 you here. Appreciate you joining us. Yeah, yeah, that's a good 15 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.799 one. That's so funny. But yeah, we were gonna have a lot 16 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:08.280 of that great back and forth between me and him. But we've got a 17 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:12.519 lot to talk about today. Brad Holmes went on the Flagship station talking about 18 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:17.879 what's gonna go on with Jared Goff and his extension. He also talked about 19 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.480 the wide receiver position and what they think they need to do. Are they 20 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:23.920 okay with Donavin People's jones? Do they want to add somebody else? What's 21 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:29.560 happening there? And the list killers are back in full effect because they just 22 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.920 keep giving us lists to kill. It's it's not we don't ask for this 23 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.959 title. It's just lists are put out there and they are ready to be 24 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.560 killed. And it's just I don't know, I don't know. I don't 25 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:46.480 know why they keep doing it. One involves your beautiful GM Brad Holmes, 26 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.640 and one involves your beautiful backfield in David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. We're gonna 27 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:55.359 break all of that down. The first things. First, Happy birthday to 28 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.599 Steve Eison. Steve Eisman, the man that Nick Koloff does not trust at 29 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.719 all. He thinks that guys are playing has failed already. He thinks he's 30 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.799 a bum. He tells him to get the fuck out of here. He 31 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:08.639 doesn't trust him at all, But I do. I still have faith in 32 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.520 you, Stevie, and I'm ready for the Wings to make a playoff run 33 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.159 next year, even though Nick thinks were terrible. I just wanted it this 34 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:20.120 year, Spanny. I'm seeing all this playoff hockey makes me want it even 35 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:24.240 more that we should have had it. What's up? You mute? You 36 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.120 can't hear me? No, I can. It's coming through, Chris, 37 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.919 you got me. Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, I think 38 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:32.400 that's on your side there, But I can hear everything else. I just 39 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.719 can't hear you. You can hear Chris. Yeah, that's so weird. 40 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.439 I don't know where that is. I'll try to figure that out. What 41 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:43.080 a bum. He's the sound guy. Yeah right, yeah, talk about 42 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.599 it a sound guy. Sound much. Happy birthday, Stevie. Yeah, 43 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:50.039 I mean, no excuses next year. I don't want to hear it if 44 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.199 we're not in the playoffs. So that's where I'm at with it, Chris, 45 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.520 Happy birthday, Stevie? Why? Yeah? Of course, of course 46 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.520 that's one of the goats, like, what are we doing here? This 47 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:05.240 man is single handedly bringing the Red Wings back to glory. You love it. 48 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.439 Back to glory, back to relevance first of all, and then get 49 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.639 to the glory. But yeah, happy birthday. To Steve Eisman nineteen nineteen 50 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.280 as a play in full effect. Gotta love that. Another thing simpop. 51 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:20.240 You know, the awards for the NBA have been rolling out this week. 52 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.039 We've gotten the sixth Man of the Year was Nasried, the Defensive Player of 53 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:30.000 the Year was Rudy Goldber, and we got the MVP announced yesterday, which 54 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.960 is kind of surprising. Honestly. Jokicic won the MVP again. Yeah, 55 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.680 over the likes by a landslide. Yeah, it wasn't really close. Over 56 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.800 the likes of Shake Gilgess, Alexander who was the best player on the best 57 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:46.240 team in the NBA, and Luka Doncic, who. I mean, you 58 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.240 can reason why Luka Dancis didn't win it, but Jokic winning again even though 59 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.680 the Nuggets kind of struggled for their standards. Do you think that was the 60 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:58.759 right pick? Yeah? I think he was the best player in the regular 61 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:00.919 season. I don't want to get too caught up in this series. It 62 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:06.039 does remind me of another great European big that also kind of had a similar 63 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:10.759 situation happened to him in Dirk Nowitzki. When Dirk won his MVP, he 64 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.360 was also on the verge of getting bounced in the playoffs, So I gotta 65 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.759 wonder it's weird timing. Usually the MVP is given in the first round, 66 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:20.800 and if he won by a landslide, why did we wait all this time? 67 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:26.000 But I think he deserved it. I think he is the best player 68 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.319 in the NBA. I think is out playing him in this series, and 69 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.480 I think that if Ant really takes this further, he could take that thrown. 70 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:36.079 But I think right now it's still Yoka check number one. So best 71 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:42.360 player had an amazing season, was you know right there for the one seed. 72 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.040 I don't see a problem with him winning. I don't know about you. 73 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.480 Yeah, I mean you look at his stats on the season, and 74 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.240 he was averaging like twenty six and a half points per game, nine rebounds. 75 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.560 If he had like sixty eight double doubles on the season or something that 76 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:59.240 like that, while Shea had he did average thirty one or thirty two points 77 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:02.120 per game whatever that was. He only had like eight double doubles on the 78 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.000 year, So he was the best player on the best team. But he's 79 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:09.240 kind of just a score. He plays great defense as well, but he 80 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:13.120 doesn't facilitate as much. Jokic we know he does a little bit of everything 81 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.600 where he's gonna rebund the ball. We know he's the best passer in the 82 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.560 NBA and as well as a guy who can get you some buckets. So 83 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:23.560 I'm not too mad about it. I think that I would have voted for 84 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.160 Shay. Honestly, if I had an MVP vote, I would have voted 85 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.279 for Shay just because I think the best player on the best team. And 86 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:38.000 it's not like he was. It's not like Jokic was heading shoulders better than 87 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.800 Shaye this year. Like it was a pretty close race, and I think 88 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:45.360 being the number one seed was such a young team gives you the oomph to 89 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.360 get that to get that win. But it is what it is. I'm 90 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:53.279 not gonna die on the hill about Shaye deserving it. SGA revenge game to 91 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:57.439 Nights didn't get the MVP. Braylan mentioned it on E and E. So 92 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.079 watch out for a big game from Shaye to Knight. But this came a 93 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.879 year late for me and Nicola Jokic because I had a big, big part 94 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:09.680 lay bet last season and uh Embiid wanted over him. So yeah, do 95 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.800 you think it's kind of a makeup call or a makeup vote. I could 96 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.600 see it a little bit for for Jokic not getting it last year. No, 97 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.480 No, Embiid was a ball last year. I'm not mad at either 98 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.560 one of those. Whichever way it went, I think I I think I 99 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.759 actually ended up voting Embiid. I'm pretty sure I did, but it was 100 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.720 neck and neck for me. So no, man, Yeah, yeah, 101 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.920 it's it's they both Definitely, if either one of them won it, I 102 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:38.639 wouldn't be freaking out. I think they both deserved it, and Jokic got 103 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:43.160 it because he does more offensively, even though Shay is much better defensively than 104 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.480 Jokicic is. But it's fine. I'm not mad at it. Let's talk 105 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.160 about your knicks, man, Let's talk about you. Let's talk about the 106 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.959 knicks, because honestly, I'm a little nervous because all the injuries going down. 107 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:56.920 Obviously, Julius Randall's out, Mitchell Robinson is out, and og Ananoby 108 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.759 kind of pulled a hammy last night and we don't know how he is going 109 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.160 to be out. But my gout. Jalen Brunson, speaking of injured players, 110 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.519 came back in in the second half after injuring his foot in the second 111 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:15.720 quarter and was giving the Pacers buckets, absolute buckets. It's awesome to watch. 112 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.600 Josh Hart has been playing lights out. Josh Hart is having like his 113 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:25.279 Andrew Like twenty twenty one Andrew Wiggins playoff run is like what Josh Hart is 114 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.000 doing. He's doing a little bit of everything. He's scoring, he's assisting, 115 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.160 he's rebounding, he's playing defense. It's fun to watch. And you've 116 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:38.720 got guys like Dante DiVincenzo stepping up, hitting clutch buckets. Isaiah Hartenstein, 117 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.240 Damn near At a triple double last night, played his ass off. I 118 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:46.079 loved watching the Knicks. It was a great game. It's like not what 119 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.040 the Knicks play like at all, Like they gave up I think like one 120 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:53.360 hundred and twenty points, but still it was a great game. Down to 121 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:57.040 the wire Knicks Pacers and old rivalry renewed in the garden. You love to 122 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:01.040 see that. And like I said, my guy guy Jalen Bruns out there 123 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.199 serving buckets, So I'd love to see that. He's been He's been phenomenal. 124 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.000 But you know what, this Indiana team, I think the point total 125 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.240 that you mentioned is the product of that is the high pace in Indiana is 126 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.519 a very good offensive team and a very poor defensive team. So even the 127 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.160 good teams like New York defensively are going to end up in shootouts or high 128 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.480 scoring games just because of the nature that Indiana plays with. But you're right 129 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:30.040 about the injuries, man, It's it's why I got a little hesitant before 130 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.879 game one. I got a little bit of cold feet. I thought New 131 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:35.399 York was gonna beat Indiana, no problem. Then I got just a little 132 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.120 bit of cold feet before because it's just injury after injury with this team, 133 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.600 man, and it's the most important players on your team. It's yeah, 134 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.240 three starters being injured. It's not like it's random guys. But it's it's 135 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.399 awesome to see them work it out. Like I said, Dante DiVincenzo is 136 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.960 coming up with some clutch buckets in the fourth quarter to kind of give them 137 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:00.200 the win. Their precious Achua stepped in, had some big offensive rebounds, 138 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.080 some big plays down the stretch. Like they're a deep team, man, 139 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.159 And this is without like Timms has it. It's like a seven man rotation. 140 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.960 Like Bogie's not getting minutes, Burke's isn't getting a minute, Like these 141 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.600 guys down the stretch are I think Burke's played like forty seconds in the last 142 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.759 game like it's it's they're running a seven man rotation, partially because of the 143 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.240 injuries, but partially because you got guys out there that can do everything. 144 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.759 And when Josh Hart's playing like he is, Isaiah Hartenstein's playing like he is, 145 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.840 it's hard to take guys like that off the court. So I love 146 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.240 seeing it. Also, one more quick NBA thing, Frank Vogel fired today 147 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.799 just an hour ago. How are you feeling about that? I don't I 148 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:41.639 don't give a shit anymore, Like I don't care what NBA teams or gms 149 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.759 or what they're looking for in coaches is absolutely fucking stupid in this era, 150 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.720 they're just looking to appease their stars. They're not local looking for good coaches. 151 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:56.679 Because when guys like Mike Budenholzer and guys like Frank Vogel can win championships 152 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:00.039 and then get fired, it's just it doesn't make sense to me. And 153 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.720 you bringing in guys like Darvin Ham and Doc Rivers who have never done shit 154 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.799 other than get carried once by Doc Rivers. You're bringing these guys into a 155 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:13.080 piece stars and make sure that they don't get mad rather than be actual good 156 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:18.039 coaches. It's embarrassing for the league, Like, you got guys that won 157 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.440 championships getting tossed aside for guys that are friends with your superstars. It's that's 158 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.559 why you're losing. That's why you're getting swept in the first round. If 159 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.279 you're Phoenix, that's why you're getting swept in the first round. If you're 160 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.720 the Lakers, Like, it's embarrassing, and that's why teams like Miami. 161 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:37.639 That's why teams like Miami are still continuously reaching the finals despite not having the 162 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.840 best record. You know, that's why they're performing well in the playoffs is 163 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:45.720 because they have that continuity up front with the coaching staff, and they found 164 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.080 it. They found a coach that actually gets the most out of their players 165 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.720 and has created a culture where everybody buys in. I mean, you look 166 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.480 at you look at Michael Malone's same thing in Denver. He's been there, 167 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.440 he's been there for years. It's been a consistent staff. So I think 168 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:01.600 that's really the key. And you're right, they're getting lost in it. 169 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.080 Frank Vogel, especially man, this is the second time in three years. 170 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.519 This man has gotten fired just because his stars, his stars had to throw 171 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.200 him under the bus. Yeah, it's ridiculous, And like easy said the 172 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.639 Bucks, it's true. Like you look at what happened with Adrian Griffin, 173 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.879 Like he had them as the number one seed in the East, and then 174 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.320 you fire him because Giannis doesn't like him, and you bring in Doc Rivers 175 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.720 and it falls apart. Like I know Gianni's being hurt played a big role 176 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.039 in it well as well, but they were pretty trash for the first two 177 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.279 months of Doc Rivers being their head coach. It's it's not you shouldn't just 178 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.519 be hiring coaches to appease your stars or make sure your stars are happy and 179 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.759 make sure they have their bowl of green m and ms and Mike and Ike's 180 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.080 without the mics. Like, make sure that they're good coaches who bring out 181 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.159 the best of your stars. Like not everybody got along with Chuck Daily, 182 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.399 but he produced fucking results. It's what happens. You need a hard asses 183 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.960 coach sometimes, especially when these guys are already paying and overflaunted and can sit 184 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.840 out as many games as they want and can request trades for no reason, 185 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.679 like the NBA is getting to a point where the players run the league, 186 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.440 and I guess that's what they want, that's what Adam Silver wants. But 187 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.279 it's tough for coaches to like do anything. You can't do anything if you're 188 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.600 a head coach, because if you do something that upsets the superstar, then 189 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.120 you get fired, even if it means you're winning more games. Look at 190 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.039 your knicks for that reason as well. Do they coach them hard? The 191 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:33.600 coach to play defense? And you got three guys out of Villanova that might 192 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.559 literally I don't know why the hell you guys can't hear me. Chris can 193 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.879 hear me here? Yeah, I can hear you. We'll just switch it 194 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.759 up. But I wanted to shout out Villa Nova because watching this next team, 195 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.440 it's literally like watching them kick the shit out of Michigan in that national 196 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:52.320 championship game. No surprise to me that these guys are having success. It's 197 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.039 I mean, it's crazy to see. I mean, I guess that is 198 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.679 the surprise that the second rounder and Dante g Vincenzo, it's like bringing me 199 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.080 back to those days when they're balling out in college. Josh Hart won a 200 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.399 championship for Villanova I'm pretty sure Brunson and Devincenzo won two championships for Villanova. 201 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.120 Like, those guys have the pedigree and they already play together. They Jay 202 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.759 Wright is a fantastic coach, and they know how to take coaching well. 203 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.720 And you look at the Knicks, like the Knicks don't have a superstar, 204 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.159 Like if you consider Jalen Brunson the superstar, now, I'll give it to 205 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.399 you. But on paper this year, they didn't have a superstar going forward, 206 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.799 but they're one of the best coach or they're one of the best teams 207 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.720 in the East. Because Tom Thibodau would say what you want about him, 208 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.799 he's a great coach. And like people don't like playing for Tom Thibodeau, 209 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.519 Like unless you're fucking TJ. Why can't I think it was Natash Gibson or 210 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.080 loual Dang or Joe Kim Noah, you don't like playing for Tom Thibdau. 211 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.639 But he's a damn good coach and he knows how to win basketball games. 212 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:50.000 And so that's what the Knicks went with because the Knicks don't have that kind 213 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:54.399 of I don't know that I can't think of the word like or not Aura, 214 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.080 but like the the star being this pri Madonna kind of thing, they 215 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.440 don't have that on the team. Their star is Jalen Brunson, who is 216 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.399 approaching superstar level, but he's a very down to earth and humble guy, 217 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:11.399 so he's never gonna be demanding coaches get fired, demanding you make trades for 218 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.279 Russell Westbrook that destroy your entire franchise. Like, no, he goes out 219 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.320 there, he plays ball, and he gets buckets. So New York's got 220 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.679 a hell of a future man. They got all their picks, they got 221 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.799 tradeable players, they got They got a guy who who was flirting with all 222 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:31.399 NBA coming coming back, not this season, but presumably next season. Randall, 223 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.120 like you got You gotta love the position you're in if you're in New 224 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.519 York. 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Trying to figure out why you guys can't hear 268 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.759 me in here, so just be patient with me. Pack show for you 269 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.400 guys, though, Let's get it. We'll figure out at some point. 270 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:55.240 At some point, uh, if you could a link Peter Kowski greement Packers 271 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:59.160 will be doing the show today, He was, yeah really? Oh yeah 272 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:03.559 about the Lions. Oh dam, the Packers have a better roster y. 273 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.640 The Lion's don't have complandard pieces on the offense. Wow, you know, 274 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.440 I think yeah, I think it is. When as I remember to contact 275 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.400 him, that'll be a interesting conversation. Yeah, I mean we've had him 276 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:17.640 on before. He's really good, So yeah, he has a lot of 277 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:22.039 things were locked on too. But speaking of conversations, speaking at rosters, 278 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.880 who was this to put this off? Spking these top ten gms? Uh, 279 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.599 this was a Pro Football Talk disgusting. Yeah, wow, we'll talk 280 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.720 about it. Throw up there, Chris boom So, Yeah, this is 281 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:41.000 a Pro Football Talks top ten GM ratings. At number one, you got 282 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.680 Hollie Roseman from the Eagles, which I'm not mad at a Number two you 283 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.759 got Brent Veach for the Chiefs, which again I'm not mad at that either. 284 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.359 Number three you got Eric DaCosta for the Ravens, which like, why, 285 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.519 I yeah, I can't tell you a lot of great things he's I 286 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.240 mean, they've made some great draft picks for sure, but he didn't Jack 287 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:06.839 lamar No. At number four. Number four, you got Brian Guttencust from 288 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.000 the Green Bay Packers ahead of the number five GM, the reigning executive of 289 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:18.920 the Year one, Braderick Holmes the end of the Detroit Lions. And if 290 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:23.880 you were to tell me that Brad Holmes is at number five and Less Snead 291 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:30.079 was behind him, I'd say you're smoking crack. Like the only way, 292 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.440 the only way I would say that it would make sense that Brad Holmes is 293 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:40.960 lower than four is if like, if you wanted to put Eric DaCosta up 294 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.319 there, I wouldn't agree with it, but I'm not I'm not going to 295 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:48.480 kill you for it. But guten Coust ahead of him and Less Snead is 296 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.920 fucking crazy. I think Brad Holmes should be in the top three, maybe 297 00:19:52.960 --> 00:20:02.079 even maybe four. But having Less Snead and Brad Holmes behind Gutencus that's like, 298 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:06.559 what what did they do to deserve that? What? What did he 299 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.480 do that's so great? Drafted some good receivers? Let Jordan Love? Wait 300 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.640 did he even draft Jordan Love? I'm checking right now. I don't like 301 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:22.400 that's a little that's a little glaze to me that that one's like wild wild 302 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:29.640 just because yeah, they may if he drafted Jordan Love, maybe there's an 303 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.599 argument. I mean, I really I don't have one for him, man, 304 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.160 I really don't. Okay, his first draft class, he drafted the 305 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.160 Aria Alexander. You want to judge after that, Josh Jackson, do you 306 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:47.519 know who that is? No? No, no clue. Orrin Burks was 307 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.240 his third round pick. Do you know who that is? Jamon Moore? 308 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.200 Is he in the NFL anymore? No, he's not the only guy. 309 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:04.200 There's two of them, Mark Quez Valdez Scantling and Ecuanamia Sam Brown. The 310 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:08.880 other the guys are on the team. Correct. He did drive for Shuan 311 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.640 Gary. That's a good pick. Darnald Savage, that's a good pick. 312 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:17.160 Elton Jenkins, that's a good pick. Those are all good picks. Everything 313 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:22.519 after that not so much. But to be fair, well, Darnold Savage 314 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.039 is also another first round pick, though I mean, shout out, gun 315 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:26.480 guy to take your pants off. He's still hit. And yes, he 316 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.960 did select Jordan Love in twenty twenty at pick twenty six A J Dillon, 317 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.960 Eric Stokes, the following year's first round pick, Josh Myers, and Mario 318 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:45.039 Rodgers. He's not over bred Holmes, No, sorry a year Alexander probably 319 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.359 all pro s, Shan Gary, gott one uh DNC. And he says, 320 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.559 Goody's been putting him work, all them first rounders on that defense. 321 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.079 Yeah, he hasn't been putting it more work than Brad Holmes. How many? 322 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.839 How many? How many all pros? Does he turned around out of 323 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:03.400 his draft classes two. Yeah, ye're probably one. Yeah, year for 324 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:10.480 sure. I think that's it. Dude, Sean Garry didn makeo pro No, 325 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:11.559 I don't think with Sean Garry's I mean he's been good. I don't 326 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.000 think he's made it all pro. Nick, you want to check that for 327 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:17.839 us, Shaun Gary. If he's made all pros, then I can guarantee 328 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.720 you that. And I want to say Jordan Morgan. He was forty seven 329 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:25.480 on Daniel Jeremiah, which obviously isn't say all. But I believe they reached 330 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:27.440 for Jordan Morgan at twenty five as well in this draft. I think so 331 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:32.240 too. I agree that that was a reach. And yeah, I mean 332 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.200 he's made some good picks, but he hasn't had a better drafting regiment than 333 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:41.880 Brad Holmes. Yeah, he was inheriting a playoff team. He was inheriting 334 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.480 a team that won the division like this is not like he took the Lions 335 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.960 from the bottomless pit that they were at into the NFC Championship game. I 336 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.160 haven't seen him do that. Did the Packers make the NFC Championship Game in 337 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.599 the past couple of years or did I miss that? He lost the Niners 338 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.680 like two years ago. Yeah, but again with the team he inherited for 339 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.480 the most part. Yeah, and with Aaron Rodgers, And like this is 340 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:08.799 he doesn't get credit for that. You don't get credit for just keeping a 341 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:15.400 team humming doesn't make you a top four GM. In my that doesn't put 342 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.720 you over less Snead a guy that's won a Super Bowl or Brad Holmes, 343 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.079 a guy that's built an NFC championship team out of nothing, Like, yeah, 344 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.680 that's kind of blasphemous for me. Like maybe if the Packers were trash 345 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:33.599 when he took him over, like if they didn't have a Hall of Fame 346 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:38.319 quarterback and already a great roster around them, then I would say, okay, 347 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:44.000 yeah, put him up there. But he just kept He didn't do 348 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:48.000 anything to change the trajectory or change the tides of Packers culture. He just 349 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.759 kept it humming. He made some good picks, for sure, but he 350 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:57.519 didn't revolutionize who the Packers were. Brad Holmes changed a franchise in three years. 351 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.119 It's it's kind of crazy. And he'd heared it a bad team, 352 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:11.279 a terrible terrible team, like turnover team, terrible talent, terrible cap spin 353 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.759 like their their books were a mess. He's turned it all around, every 354 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:22.119 last piece of it he's turned around. I just maybe there's they pro football 355 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.720 talk by the way they hate the Lions. Christen is probably the only guy 356 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.720 that every once in a while may give like a little leeway or love to 357 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.720 the Detroit Lions. Mike Florya is one of the most biased national reporters. 358 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.599 Yeah, Mike floria He's definitely in there. He's definitely like top five when 359 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.799 it comes to the most biased guys reporting as non bias people. He hates 360 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.839 the Lions for whatever reason is maybe pepper grinds for sure, I would understand 361 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.079 that a lot more of Detroit Lions were like Thegreemit Packers are winning Nercy North 362 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.039 at the Nercy North and all that good ship. We had that rich history 363 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.400 to like bury the Minnesota Vikings with, but we don't. I have zero 364 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.000 clue why this guy hates the Detroit Lions so much. But Brad being top 365 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.960 five, I feel like we maybe wind a little bit too much. Yes, 366 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.319 But at the same point though, just guten Kust being at three or 367 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.839 was it four for Gutenks was it four? Just being in the top five 368 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:12.920 alone, I guess it is like it's a big head scratcher. For myself, 369 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.640 I think he had some good draft classes, but like to put him 370 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:21.079 top five over Brad Holmes specifically, I guess it is like a head scratcher 371 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:22.720 again because we inherited a bad team. Yeah, turn it all around with 372 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.480 the MC Conference championship game. He's done it through draft picks, He's done 373 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.599 through trades, Gutencus, like you said, inherit and already playoff team for 374 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.240 the Hall of Fame quarterback and kind of cut things afloat the one year at 375 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:40.720 Jordan Love that was a hit, late round pick. That was a hit. 376 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:42.799 Yeah, well I'm not putting them over b at Home. Still No. 377 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.279 And I think if you pulled gms or ball knowers around the country, 378 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:56.799 I think the unanimous top four in whatever order you want would be Roseman, 379 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.880 veach Less, Snead, and Brad Holmes. Like in any order, those 380 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.759 would be your top four. I don't think it's questionable that should be everyone's 381 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:11.400 top four. Is a any those four in any order, and I don't 382 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.000 think it's close. I think it's those four and then it's a pretty big 383 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.039 drop off. I'm kind of with you. I mean, I don't have 384 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.839 my laptop to look at that. Actually, Christy budlist up again real quick, 385 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.960 Yeah, got my laptops. I could be because the other guys he 386 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:30.680 has, He's got the Bengals GM like Brown and Duke Tobbyn, Brandon Bean 387 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:37.240 of the Bills, Jason Litt of the of the Buccaneers, and John Schneider 388 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.200 of the Seahawks. I think it's the top four, like I said of 389 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.200 Roseman, Veitch, Less Neat, and Brad Holmes, and then there's a 390 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.720 pretty big drop off and then you look at Ta Costa and Goudenhurst and then 391 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:53.359 another drop off and then the rest. Because I like Goudener's he's not a 392 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:59.400 bad GM. I'm not saying that. He's definitely made some great draft picks 393 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:03.240 too, not top not ahead of Brad Holmes or Less Snaed. That's where 394 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.480 I get mad. He's definitely a good GM, but he's not ahead of 395 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.279 those two. Yeah, just a head scratch it for me as a guy 396 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:12.880 who tries to find the reasons why you see these kind of things, I 397 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.279 can't really do it for this one. Yeah. Rashaan Gary no Pro Bowl, 398 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.559 no All Pro, first of all, second of all on Brad Holmes 399 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:26.079 point front or front. We talked about it a little bit yesterday, but 400 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.240 Jared Goff was thrown to the Wolves. They added the two first round picks 401 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:37.160 for that because of that contract. He's turned him like completely rejuvenated him and 402 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.160 now this team was just in the NFC Championship game. He's insulated him quite 403 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.359 well with all of the young talent, and Brad Holmes deserves full credit for 404 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.720 that. I think he's easily top three on this list. Gudenhurst, Guten 405 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.440 Coons, Google Coust. However he say his name, no disrespect him, 406 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.079 Gutenberg. I think it's Google Houst, Guten Coust. But like, come 407 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.000 on, man, he's not better than Brad Holmes. Let's seed there there 408 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.960 there is serious bias behind that. Mike Florio, you're a chump. Get 409 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.599 over yourself. Yeah, honestly, and I know he's a Vikings fan. 410 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.880 But again that's why I mentioned like it, we diffinitely try lines win division 411 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.880 of the division at the division, you know, strongholding the Vikings is if 412 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.119 we did what we just did the rebad Packers and knock him out of the 413 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:25.200 playoffs like I would, I would get why Mike Foyle hates the detro liance 414 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.440 so much or has a bias against Detroy lines. But that's not the case. 415 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:32.160 He's just hater or just he's not a dumb guy. I don't I 416 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.720 don't know. Again, it's it's that time here though this season. They 417 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.880 know we were all up one of the few fan bases that have its own 418 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.279 digital network per se. So maybe it's on. It's tical. I don't 419 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.720 know. If you're If you look me in the eyes and you tell me, 420 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.880 Guten Coust, is it better GM than less Sneed or Brad Holmes, 421 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.039 I'm gonna look you in the eyes and tell you you're an idiot. I 422 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.240 gotta be honest too, even the Costa from from Yeah, I'm not putting 423 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.279 him over Brad Holmes either. I really can't. What no single funck has 424 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.240 he done. I mean, he's made some good picks, He's bolstered dead, 425 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:08.759 made some good signings. Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton's bringing Marcus Williams. 426 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:15.160 I don't know if he drafted Marlon Humphrey or not. Trade again, traded 427 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.279 for Rokwan Smith. That was a good trade. Yeah, he made drafted. 428 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:26.640 Uh, what's our guy in the middle name, It's he's made some 429 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.359 first where you forgot a name it. I'm the one, remember, Yeah, 430 00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.200 that's just tripped me out. He's made some nice moves for sure. 431 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.839 But again I'm not putting that over Brad Holmes because the Ravens are a perennial 432 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:41.119 playoff contender that when you manage a team like that, like Brad Holmes is 433 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.119 the only one. I would say Brad Holmes in less Need and Brent Viach 434 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.599 are the only ones on this list that like built their teams from kind of 435 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:56.880 mediocrity to what they are now. Vikings winning winning percison against Detroit Lions the 436 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:02.119 highest amongst any two team matchup in NFL history. Mann, so just feel 437 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.960 superre to Detroit even though neither of us have won a super Bowl yet. 438 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.920 Silkie Johnson, Yeah, I guess that could be it, that really could. 439 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.759 They did just signed Derek Henry, that's true, DNC. Yeah, 440 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.359 yeah, that's not the one I listened. He's the one that's like the 441 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.079 head scratching for me. Like I said, if he him, I wouldn't 442 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:23.519 be arguing. But the Guten Coast over less Sneed and Brad Holmes is laughable. 443 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.400 And it's not just Brad and less sneed too like that is ridiculous. 444 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.759 This is a guy. We saw how he architected that Super Bowl team together. 445 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.880 Two of them really just didn't win the first time. 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Start your day with Wake 463 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.680 Up Woodward Monday through Friday, eight to ten am live on Woodward Sports. 464 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.799 Joint kool Aid, Flannel, Sam Broder, JB and KG every morning as 465 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.480 they cover all of Detroit sports, sports, dot banter and live fan interaction 466 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:50.359 all on Detroit's number one sports network, Woodward Sports. On journome by Wait 467 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.440 it's a lot more sports dot com. I'm easy, joined by spiemallracks you 468 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.480 on Chris along, said JB. Spool. It's been a minute since j 469 00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:04.440 on here trip talking with you can see every day switch off. Shout out 470 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:12.720 to JB. More Brad Holmes parts and the JB. Yeah that's that's that's 471 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:17.599 funny going there part. Yeah, he's sound. I heard. That's a 472 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:22.000 big thing that JB is known for around here. JB is definitely a partner 473 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.200 yeah, and he's very kidnappable, very conn That's his method of defense is 474 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.519 party. That's why he just let's train his bottels too. Well, like 475 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:40.279 you run up to Chris. I sent this on my way over, so 476 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.880 I don't know if you got it or not. Okay, cool. So 477 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.759 Brad Holmes on local radio, obviously I saw coup Comms womb Sports chat already 478 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:54.039 about it, but he had these things say about j Yeah. I mean, 479 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:59.559 well, well the first and foremost, you know, he's he's earned 480 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:05.759 any and it's it's it's important, it's it's a high priority for us. 481 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.800 And both sides are working really really hard, and and these things just take 482 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:16.360 time, you know. And and this this working on not only trying to 483 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:20.320 get an extension done with him, but you know, like I said, 484 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.960 panay and saying, it's not something that would wait until after the season to 485 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.400 start planning for, you know, like they we the whole process of budgeting 486 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.079 and preparation and all that that kind of goes into We've been preparing for a 487 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.800 while. And look, in a perfect world, we'd have had all three 488 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.840 of them done, bang bang bang, you know, but these things just 489 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.599 kind of take a while, especially with the quarterback market. But I do 490 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:54.920 have faith that it's going to get done. And there you have it a 491 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.840 lot of discussion about this, which is pretty much the same it's been on. 492 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.159 Although I did see a quote, and forgive me if for not listening 493 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.119 there, I probably should have of highest priority was that? I think I 494 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.079 do remember him saying that. Actually, yeah, he said it was a 495 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.360 highest priority. It's something that he's been trying to get done, something both 496 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:17.639 teams have been working at very hard to get done. And so it sounds 497 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.199 like the Lions like they want to do it. They would, they have 498 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.440 their offer. They I'm sure they've presented it to Jared Goff's camp. I 499 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:30.320 still think it boils back to the years. I think that's really what is 500 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.480 what the two camps are apart at. I think we've heard Brad Holmes and 501 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.440 the Detroit Lions want a two or three year extension and Jared Goff and his 502 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:44.599 team are looking more than four or five years for that long term kind of 503 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.519 safety. That long term yet, Like, I think that's what it is. 504 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.920 I think they're set at a number. Like you can't really debate numbers 505 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.159 at this point. It's going to be anywhere between forty seven and fifty million 506 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.840 dollars a year. Yep, So I think they're going to be right in 507 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.760 this same range around there. I really think it boils down to how many 508 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.400 years they're looking to give up. I'm with you. I think it's more 509 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.519 of a year thing. And mean, at least it's what we're being told. 510 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:13.639 Are things that we're hearing. Nothing's confirmed by Brad Holmes himself obviously don't 511 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.559 have that those type of sources. I think the Lion's organization. That's one 512 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.039 thing I love about this one. For this organization per Se is like you 513 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:25.000 can guestimate and maybe you hear rumblings of conversations being had based off other gms 514 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:30.039 and leaks in their situation. Rat Holmes, there's never that. That's why 515 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.840 when it comes like draft time, we have no fucking fluence going on. 516 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:36.280 Yeah, there are no leaks. So I can't say for sure that it's 517 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.440 the years, But that's just the things that we have heard. That's what 518 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.480 it makes sense. Like what are the other things that they could be arguing 519 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.679 about. They're not gonna hold this up over a two million dollar difference in 520 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.840 yearly salary. I can't guarantee I can't think it's gonna be guarantees or fully 521 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.159 like. Golf wouldn't be too mad about it being guaranteed or front loaded or 522 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.440 whatever because he's already got so much money from his other deals. Oh know 523 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.679 though, man, because everybody else is getting these fat deals and they're getting 524 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.239 them guaranteed. Yeah, I feel it's at the trend of the NFL con. 525 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.280 I mean, look at Kirk Cousins. But we just saw the Lions 526 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.760 are not afraid to give guaranteed money. They gave Amora Saint Brown the most 527 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.280 guaranteed money for a wide receiver. They gave Penny Suol a lot of guaranteed 528 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:21.039 money. I really think we guaranteed money and there's quarterback. We haven't seen 529 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.519 them give years like that, we haven't. I don't think Golf wants to 530 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.719 sign a two or three year extension. I think he wants the security of 531 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.159 a four or five year extension. And we've we haven't seen Brad Holmes give 532 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:37.199 out contracts like that other than to his young first team all pro guys. 533 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.360 It'd be fair or not be fair, but it'd be easy for me to 534 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:44.280 take that information too. And again not confirmed by anyone, but it'd be 535 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:45.400 easy for me to take that and be like, oh, look it. 536 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.239 He doesn't want to make the commitment with the golf. But at the same 537 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.519 time, like it's abo outside of Amara and Pennay, he's kind of really 538 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.920 only given those sep of contracts out. The only person he signed for two 539 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.239 years outside of Amaraan and Penney School was DJ Reader, and he signed him 540 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.800 for three years. Like, it's not like he's going out there giving four 541 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.960 year, five year deals to Jamie Collins and Trey Flowers and stuff like that. 542 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.719 That's not how he operates. And I think he's doing this because he 543 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:14.320 sees Goff as a very good player. He wants to keep him around. 544 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:21.079 But they really really value financial and cap flexibility on this team, and signing 545 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:25.800 a quarterback to a fifty million dollars deal for five years is nowhere near being 546 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:32.000 financially or cap flexible. And we've seen Brad Holmes at his best drafting all 547 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.679 of these key players that we've talked about. The last thing he wants to 548 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:42.039 do is cripple himself into a spot where he cannot re sign his own guys, 549 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.519 like he's already done. So that's why obviously he's going to be smart 550 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.039 with Jared Goff's numbers and the term on his contract. This is just a 551 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.480 smart play here, And obviously he's going to come out in public back his 552 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.320 guy. We're going on the Super Bowl run this year. That's what he's 553 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.320 gonna say. He's never gonna say out loud that, you know, this 554 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.159 isn't now our number one priority. So, yeah, he did everything right 555 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:05.960 here. Now, I'm with you to that. That's the part of as 556 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.960 well, Like if there is some hit an agenda or Hennon Hooker is your 557 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.960 contingency, He's never gonna go outright and say that. Yeah, when Jared 558 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.320 Goff is like the leader as of now, when Jared Goff is gonna be 559 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:22.639 your starting quarterback heading into the season, granted a miracle, Henenhooker or somebody 560 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.719 else looking like freaking Patrick Mahomes two point zero, even in this neer, 561 00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.239 they'll probably gonna give golf the rings until under this year at least. Yeah, 562 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.039 yeah, they're not. They're this year is set. They're not gonna 563 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:37.280 do anything crazy to break up the chemistry, the cohesion and and the just 564 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.599 flat out balling that this offense has been doing. In a year where you're 565 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.719 trying to win a super Bowl. They're not gonna do anything to break that 566 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.519 up. I don't think Jared Goff does anything to break that up, even 567 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.280 if he doesn't sign his deal. I would be extremely extremely surprised if Jared 568 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.000 Goff held out, even if he didn't get a deal, because it's he 569 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.400 knows that this is his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He's already 570 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.159 got a shit ton of money. He knows he's gonn to get paid regardless 571 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.639 I could. I would be extremely extremely surprised to see him hold out. 572 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.960 So I think this year we'll see man. I wouldn't be surprised if they 573 00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:13.760 get it done at training camp, because we saw other guys last year get 574 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.519 their deals done around training camp, like a Joe Burrow, like a Justin 575 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:21.719 Herbert. Those extensions got done kind of in training camp, and the guys 576 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.039 you're looking at to sign deals this year are all in that same kind of 577 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.960 boat with two a tongue of aloa Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence. 578 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.239 Those are the extensions we're gonna see this year, and none of them 579 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.159 have really broke the bank just yet, so I would not be surprised to 580 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.480 see Jared Goff get his deal done with the first couple weeks of camp. 581 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:42.519 I'm within that one. That's a phenomenal point and I had the names right 582 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.840 for that one. But yeah, that's what's kind of going on, guys 583 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.639 getting the deals done in training camp and right after training camp. And again 584 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.119 I would even trip if it was something that happened after the fact, Like 585 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.400 it's no, I've already conceived to the fact that Jared Goff is gonna stay 586 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.480 here. I think that's everyone's kind of like recognized that. I mean, 587 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.639 maybe Tita Todter and ivatez yabout Henton Hooker being that guy, but it's they're 588 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.599 gonna at least at the very least give him that, like you said that 589 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.480 first two years guaranteed third year option on the team end like they've done Daniel 590 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.480 Jones, Geno Smith. Yes, because I think that's the kind of deal 591 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.960 they're trying to give exactly. And then the thing is too, like you 592 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.280 don't even know what Henden Hooker is both ways talking about good end or bad. 593 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.159 Yes, I mean it sounds like they gush over him for sure, 594 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.679 but like we still don't know what that is for Damn sure, so he's 595 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.599 doing the right way. I don't think anybody should be discouraged or I mean, 596 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:31.840 he could be encouraged. But again, it's not really new information. 597 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.960 We knew this was gonna happen, and I just said, like, I 598 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.880 wouldn't be surprised that if they don't get it done at camp or a round 599 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.480 camp. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get it done to start the 600 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.480 season. I wouldn't be surprised if they go through the season, they play 601 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.760 out the season and let it happen. Because I heard, you know, 602 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.639 the other that station in town saying like, oh, it's going to be 603 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.679 a distraction if you don't get it done. That's all they're gonna ask about. 604 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.159 That's bullshit. Yeah, Jared Goff is always asked about. He's a 605 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:04.760 professional. He is a consummate professional. Is let Wojo or or one of 606 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.639 the Lions report Broder asking him, Hey, do you think you're gonna get 607 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.760 your deal this week? What's going on there? That's not gonna distract him 608 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:14.800 from going out there and being the quarterback for the Detroit Lions. If they're 609 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:16.760 you could say whatever you want about Jared Goff and We've said a lot of 610 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.880 things about Jared Goff. You cannot say the man is not a professional. 611 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.360 He goes in there, he takes care of business. He's a company man, 612 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:28.480 and he's not gonna let something like that distract him for his goal and 613 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.280 his team's goal of winning a Super Bowl. I'm not worried about that in 614 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.639 the slightest. Yeah, I don't see this stopping them from achieving things they 615 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.599 want to achieve. 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But we 658 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.400 feel really good about the guys we have, and obviously we we we have 659 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.599 an a lead one that we just did a deal with, and you know, 660 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.199 we have Jamison Williams and then coming on very very strong, and uh 661 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.400 we have we have high hopes for him and we we we like where he's 662 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.519 at at this point, and we know that he's just going to continue to 663 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.159 get better. People's Jones, you know, we we we traded for he 664 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:51.760 was a he was a big time core player for the Cleveland Browns before we 665 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.519 traded for him. But we traded for him even though the guy comes in 666 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:58.719 late and he doesn't really know the offense, and so then he hadn't seen 667 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.400 people Jones and then we all kind of get into the recency bias of well, 668 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.559 what people Jones gonna do? He hasn't no people Jones can play and 669 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:13.679 so he he he does provide uh an element of being able to play on 670 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.599 the outside and being a contested catch guy and you know, being able to 671 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.920 do it multiple things. And you know, we're really excited about Antoine Green, 672 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.960 about how he's he's he's came along and you know, he's another guy 673 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.159 that has size, he has speed, and he's the guy that kept getting 674 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.000 better and better and better from what we've seen throughout the year. I know 675 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.239 he didn't get a ton of like targets in games for the world to see, 676 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:42.039 but us being h internally with him every single day throughout the season were 677 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.920 really like, like, he's going. We really like Khalif Raymond obviously that 678 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:52.280 we signed, we extended last year, so we really like our Yeah, 679 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.800 And I mean I kind of told you that. I tried to tell you 680 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.000 that, Like we talked about how Brad Holmes said it would have been an 681 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.280 a plus offseason if only by the receivers. By the way, Yeah, 682 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:06.480 only getting Josh Reynolds was the one thing that he wanted to do. I 683 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.000 think that was more of a comfortability with Golf standpoint rather than a lacking talent 684 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.599 standpoint. Like I think they like where they're at with the talent group in 685 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.000 the wide receiver room, but they wanted to bring back Reynolds just because him 686 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.199 and Golf have such a good chemistry together. And I said, like I'm 687 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.280 confident that Donovan People's Jones could step up and be a good receiver in this 688 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.159 offense. I know what he can do. I've seen him do it before, 689 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.000 Like I've seen him do it in Cleveland where he had almost a thousand 690 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.960 yards receiving. I've seen him go out there and make plays. He's a 691 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.159 big guy, he is physical, he is athletic, he's fast, he 692 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.840 could play outside. He's gonna be probably the number two red zone threat on 693 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.440 this team next year. So I have a lot of faith in what Donovan 694 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.239 People's Jones can bring to this team. I have a lot of faith in 695 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.719 Jamison Williams taking a leap and being more involved in the offense. We know 696 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.000 Khalif Raymond is the lunch pale, hard hat guy who when his numbers called, 697 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.719 he's gonna produce. And we saw it on Green showed some flashes last 698 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:05.440 year, especially in the preseason when he was getting some snaps. He saw 699 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.599 his playmaking ability and his one cut ticket to the house ability. So I'm 700 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:14.119 pretty confident with where the wide receiver group is now. And like I've been 701 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.079 saying, look out for those post camp cuts where you get a guy who's 702 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.320 been around the league, who is a journeyman kind of guy, doesn't make 703 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.320 a roster like pay attention to Tennessee. They brought in a bunch of wide 704 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:27.599 receivers. We were talking about that one of those guys gets cut. That's 705 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.320 an easy ground ball that you could pick up and throw in your lineup. 706 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.480 So I'm not worried about the wide receiving corps. I mean, there's nothing 707 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.360 else to really say it. To be honest, he's Beinny. You said 708 00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.960 everything I wanted to say. Donovipe Jones. We know what he's done in 709 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:44.480 Cleveland. Cliff Raymond, he has been wide receiver three already in this team, 710 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.599 arguably because you've seen jam will more than likely stop up into that wide 711 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.320 receiver two category. And then, yeah, the guy I'm probably most said 712 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.920 about is is how it is a lot of young players. Is the young 713 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.679 one and that's Antoine Green. And as you said, I think there's more 714 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.840 a Panthers game. He kind of like balled out and really it was one 715 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:02.840 thing. It was like two or three receptions, but nonetheless he saw the 716 00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:07.000 playmaking ability for him to take that bitch far down and even if you watch 717 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.440 back his highlights at North Carolina He is that type of player. He's the 718 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.119 big play player. That's what he does, is kind of It was head 719 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.480 scratching to me initially that he lasted to the seventh round. The same could 720 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:21.079 be said though too another late round pick this year out of Oregon, the 721 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.119 kid Troy Franklin. He went late two. Similar style played, in my 722 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.719 opinion to Antoine Green. But I think there's more than enough people that can 723 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.920 step up that side of production. And as you said, I think the 724 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.880 Josh Renaalds stuff was just more the comfortability. I know that's what it was 725 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.559 for me personally. I knew that we can get to MC Conference championship with 726 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.519 him in there. As you wide receiver three, I still feel pretty fairly 727 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.079 confident we can still do that without him. But again, you're just more 728 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.599 comfortable having him in your back pocket, or him as your third option or 729 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.199 even to your second option in a situation where Jane was not readily available. 730 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.280 You know Calvin Johnson's instude just the other day, and he and Braylan I 731 00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.960 know their personal opinions on the matter, and bray when he asked the person, 732 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.920 don't get yourself in trouble. Jamil is talented yes, he is just 733 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.199 stay healthy. Another part of it. I know last year you heard himself 734 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:07.320 in the Dallas game to that big play. If you have watched him, 735 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:12.719 I just supposed to highlight of him making the second touchdown against Sam Frien. 736 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.440 You see him kind of like limping his way back to the Highland, and 737 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.800 then afterward, if he's hardened his body and be readily available, then I'd 738 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.480 be more even supremely more confident in the other pieces we have and the way 739 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.599 Ben Johnson operates. Who's gonna utilize each and every one of those guys the 740 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.639 best of the ability. I've told Hi Kleef Raymond, Antoine Greena'm sure he's 741 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.679 just this year role this year too, and obviously DPJ two Nick. Yeah, 742 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.199 the thing that stands out to me the most is that he didn't have 743 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:42.280 the rapport with golf. He came in mid season and we've seen it with 744 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.400 Jamison Williams. If he doesn't trust you, he is not going to throw 745 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.960 you the ball. So that's where I'm at with DPJ. A full off 746 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.719 season to work with and I think he's going to be just fine. And 747 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:58.199 we gave up draft capital to get him. I think he was the first 748 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.079 player that Brad's acquired at the Daal line. Just off the top of my 749 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:04.840 head, it was DPJ. So I think he's going to be a big 750 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.280 part of this offense. Is that third wide receiver? Chris? What do 751 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.719 you got? Didn't hear a word you said? But I'm gonna disagree with 752 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:15.360 you out a pure spite. Yeah, so as I laughed at the air 753 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.400 condition yeah, we could almost hear what you were saying. And then the 754 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.519 air conditioning came out. He did He tossed it. Yeah, he tossed 755 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.239 it to me. Is that, Chris? What are you thinking? You 756 00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:29.599 just go I didn't hear a word, but no. I think I think 757 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.360 was interesting was that he mentioned DPJ, like right right off rip as the 758 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.079 third receiver after Aman Jamo, And I know we've all said that, but 759 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.599 I just think it's interesting that that kind of confirms that he is wide receiver 760 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.159 three for anybody question that. The other thing that Easy brought up that does 761 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:52.440 get me a little nervous is Jamo. What happens if he's not healthy for 762 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.480 a period. But I mean, we've seen this team go down without amen 763 00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.400 Ra for a game or two and survived, so as long as it's nothing, 764 00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.239 you know, long term, I think this, this receiving corps has 765 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:07.079 enough talent around it. And I'm glad that he mentioned Antoine Green because I 766 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:08.639 was a player that as you know, last year, I was very excited 767 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.800 for I was even really hoping for him to get more reps and he just 768 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.639 he just didn't, which was understandable considering the receiving core we have. But 769 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:22.119 overall, I I feel confident. I feel confident in it. It can 770 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:25.159 get the job done. But I would like that whether it's trade deadline, 771 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.159 post camp cut, that one more veteran piece that I just okay. I 772 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.559 like now we're loaded, because you can never be too loaded at wide receiver. 773 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.599 Great point, Chris J. Washington said, Chris, just like a 774 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.280 substitute teacher. That's a good one. I had to change in the car 775 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:49.480 between jobs. But here we are good. Oh rare form today, boys, 776 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.599 come get your hair hut. Trust me. Yeah, you won't regret 777 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.639 it. But I don't even remember what I was gonna say, honestly, 778 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:02.280 just easy, I'm joined this right now. Yeah, I told her earlier. 779 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:09.519 I was like, it's shits sitting today. But yeah, sports football, 780 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:17.239 my god, Lions wide receiver situation. I think it can happen. 781 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.079 Yeah, Oh it's good. That'll be good. Fine, they'll be fine. 782 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.400 Because the other thing, too, is we have seen this team short 783 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.840 without I'm st. Brown. There's two factors. That's why I say context 784 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:31.559 always matters. We're nice throw numbers and like, yeah, it's all good. 785 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.480 Look at this, not how this thing works, but the context run 786 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.159 into the situation we have. I'm around St. Brown. Last year we 787 00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.880 was a Dallas Cowboys game, not last year, the year prior, two 788 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.440 years ago now Dallas Cowboys game Patriots game. Two awful outings for this offense. 789 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:52.320 But one was Bill Belichick, who, all fairness kind of just own 790 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.119 Jared Goff up to that point. Yes, and you didn't have to. 791 00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.480 Yeah, two might go out on top because he's not coaching. We have 792 00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.679 Sam Importer now too. Mm hmm. Like we're talking about the wide receivers, 793 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.920 like you know, you're talking about guys who catched the ball. Sami 794 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.000 Porta, one of the Jared Goff's favorite targets, if not his second favorite 795 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.679 target on this team we have. He's also gonna take a step forward in 796 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.760 my opinion, too, which is being in the second year in the NFL. 797 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:15.440 He's gonna be more prepared for the season, the growing season that I 798 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.960 ask. I'm sure Ben John's gonna throw like a little extra wrinkles in there 799 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.840 too. I don't know if James Mitchell makes his team, but there's I 800 00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.159 mean, Ben Johnson to find ways to utilized guys. Even with Donna Josh 801 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.760 Renls. Does it help to have a Josh Renolds absolu fresolutely, but having 802 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.519 Ben Johnson in your corner, He's gonna find ways to make it work regardless. 803 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.199 We talked about it when KG was here. How I can see Donovan 804 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.960 Peoples Jones and Jamison Williams combining to fill Josh Reynolds role. Like I think 805 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.280 the production is easy to fill, but the role in what he does, 806 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:47.159 Like Donovan Peoples Jones is gonna be that red zone threat, the guy, 807 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.440 the big body they bring in there. And I think Jamison Williams can be 808 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.239 used as that guy in intermediate routes as well as over the top routes. 809 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.239 We saw him at the end of the season last year getting more of those 810 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.199 seven yard outs and different like that, catching balls breaking to the sidelines, 811 00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:05.599 are going across the end zone and He seemed comfortable doing that, and Golf 812 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:07.840 seemed comfortable throwing him those balls. So I think we're gonna see a lot 813 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.639 of that. And like you said, Sam Laporta is gonna eat in the 814 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.880 middle of the field. This is just gonna give him more opportunities. We're 815 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:20.840 gonna see Jamir Gibbs take a leap in his role receiving the ball and catching 816 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.920 the ball out of the backfield. He kind of struggled in that last year. 817 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.199 If you're gonna harp on Gibbs for one thing, it's gonna be he 818 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.519 He dropped the ball a little bit coming out of the backfield, So I 819 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.239 can see him fixing that and being a threat in the passing game more than 820 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:37.280 he was last year. A couple of awful takes and the chat's not even 821 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.639 read him honestly straight to break. Yeah, Keys is just controlling the whole 822 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.360 not gonna give this one any attention. He is an absolute troll. He 823 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.280 didn't make the bet. Lady Janes, Lady James, come in today, 824 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.719 boys, trust me, Come in Lady James. Where a guy can be 825 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.239 a guy and get an amazing haircut. That's Lady James haircuts. 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Continue in the talk with Eatri Allons. 852 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:54.400 I hope everybody knows by now I feel like we are the least bias show 853 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.639 on the network. I'd say, is that fair? Is that kind of 854 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.119 yes'day? So you ask, I say, yeah, I think we're the 855 00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.679 least by yes for sure, depends on who. Yes. I think we're 856 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.920 the least by showing the network and uh we see these lists. Obviously, 857 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.239 every Detroy Lions fan gets mad. But I think even if you were to 858 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.280 take a step back about this particular list from the show. Next from Mike 859 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:21.000 Florio again, Chris Sims double down this one too, the pepper grinder himself. 860 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:22.559 Mike Florio, Why is the pepper grinder? What was that? I'll 861 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.960 tell you what, oh man, I tell you when you're older. Kid, 862 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.280 sew it up, all right, up, Jes did a handles multicoder, 863 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:37.679 crazy multi coldors going. So these are the best backfields in the NFL. 864 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:43.519 According to both Chris Sims and Mike Fourio. This is just fucking stupid, 865 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:45.559 dude. Now only he does not agree on a single team here. 866 00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:51.639 No, I think they did a draft, okay, and like they went 867 00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:53.480 one two one two, one two. That's how I'm pretty sure that's how 868 00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:00.280 I got. I got nothing, dude, I really don't. I mean, 869 01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:06.000 for my audio audience, zero Tatra Lions is why I we're compsite with 870 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:10.159 this one. Yeah, upset, I'm upset. That's how do you fucking 871 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.000 almost two thousand yard rushers? Actually, from the line of scrimmage. Two 872 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.599 guys well over one thousand yards in this one with Jamiir James, Dave Montgomery, 873 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.400 the best offensive line in the league, an elite run game and run 874 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:30.079 scheme from Ben Johnson consistently now and just out of six teams. It took 875 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:35.360 six backfields and not a single one of them with the Eatra Allons. I 876 01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.800 started this by saying, we're at least bias right, because I truly do 877 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:43.960 believe that for me, for us to be upset about this bullshit, I 878 01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.960 would lean more towards that GM list being Okay, GM list is a lot 879 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.159 better than this one, to at least he had Bright Holmes Top five. 880 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.039 Yes, this one, I mean, in my opinion, this is like 881 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.480 arguably one. I mean, there's no chance that Jamier Gibs Dave Montgomery make 882 01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:59.639 it out of my top three. When it comes to backfields in the league, 883 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.039 if you would have told me the best backfields in the NFL, there 884 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.920 would be two NFC North teams on this list, neither of which are the 885 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.920 Detroit Lions. I'll tell you your cousin keys, like this is just fucking 886 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:20.519 stupid, Like, okay, you want to argue the Dolphins you're wrong, 887 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.400 but you can argue it. You want to argue the Niners again, you're 888 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.000 wrong, but you can argue it. The rest of them, you can't 889 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.199 even argue it. There is no argument, Like Jamior Gibbs, do we 890 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:37.199 have the stat of the of the screenshot of them. They're what they did, 891 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:44.039 like they made history last year. Like they're the only backfield teammates to 892 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:50.199 have a thousand plus scrimmage yards and ten plus rushing touchdowns in the NFL history, 893 01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.000 in NFL history, not in Detroit Lions history, not in NFC North 894 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.400 history, in NFL history. This is the only backfield that have two guys 895 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.679 both go over a thousand yards total and both have ten rushing touchdowns. If 896 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:07.519 that doesn't say this is the best backfield in the NFL, you are stupid. 897 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:13.760 Mike Florio, You are stupid. This is just wrong, and it's 898 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:17.119 bad on you. It looks bad on you. You should be ashamed of 899 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.159 yourself to prop yourself up there every day and spew out garbage like this. 900 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:29.000 It absolutely makes no sense. This is a travesty of a list, and 901 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:30.960 honestly, I think they're doing it just to rile us up. At this 902 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.119 point, these guys in yards per attempt rushing last year, where both of 903 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.599 them are in the top nine in all of running backs. Like, what 904 01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:44.079 are we doing here? I think they're hanging out, you know, doing 905 01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:47.880 whatever with Austin Eckler. The amount of disrespect that these guys are getting. 906 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:53.320 Mike Florio, shave your eyebrows as well? This is gross? Or yeah, 907 01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.039 I mean I don't was this Florio? Or is this thirty thirteen my 908 01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.440 betio? Yeah, it's this is horrible. I mean just the eye test 909 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:06.360 alone throws Gibbs in there. Maybe DeMont isn't the most flashy, but when 910 01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.840 you have the stats to back up the eye test too, this is just 911 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:15.320 horrible. I mean, time to pick another job, honestly, easy anything. 912 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:22.000 David Montgomery would arguably the number be the number one running back on three, 913 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.559 if not four, of those backfields, Like he would be the number 914 01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.679 one running back in LA. He would be the number one running back in 915 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:34.079 Chicago over over kiraen Williams. Yes, I don't think, and he would 916 01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:37.960 probably be the number one running back in Miami. He like, I don't, 917 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.880 I don't understand. I don't understand. I'll say this, I think 918 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:46.519 Miami's the only one. I mean, we have yet to see Kormy regardless, 919 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.679 but i'd probably say Miami the only one. Again, we're talking about 920 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.599 backfield collective, right, like just the most yes, the only ones, 921 01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:57.639 because we've seen those guys go down and the next guy just fill in, 922 01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.920 boom right away, Jacob's that's that's the one good guy we've seen a j 923 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.360 Dillon getting RB one. Reps did dick with him last year. Didn't do 924 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:08.239 dick with them. I don't know why they're even in this list. They 925 01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:13.079 drafted Lloyd maybe a high expectation for him. Sure, uh, corm can 926 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.400 we see him take a snap? No? Yeah, you know what I'm 927 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.239 saying. I mean McCaffrey very top heavy. Everything after that. I mean 928 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:24.159 they went with good guys have gotten. But he's not better than Jumior Gibbs. 929 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.280 No, he's not better than day Monk. He's not better than need 930 01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.280 of those guys. No, So for that to be like eligible, it's 931 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:31.840 I mean, it's not you'd have to be better than them. We have 932 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.400 two of those guys. Yes, the top of Craig Reynolds who like whatever 933 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.679 whatever, all right on this list, Johnson Herbert, that is pretty deep 934 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.639 sneakily deep, Yeah, because he's seen them. Maybe same with Gang well 935 01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:46.119 two, but none of those guys are better than either of R two on 936 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.360 this list. R two is better than any other two. The only two 937 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:53.840 that you would put up there is is most cert in a chain. Like 938 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.440 I don't know if it's a brain fart or just again list season trying to 939 01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.519 get reactions. It's crazy. This is crazy. Having the Bears on there 940 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:05.400 over the Lions is fucking terrible. It's wild too, because you know you're 941 01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:09.039 gonna look fucking stupid at the end of the year. Yeah, Like, 942 01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.920 barring injury, you are for sure gonna look like an absolute fucking dumbass. 943 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:15.679 I mean they look at absolute dumbasses right now because you know, goddamn well, 944 01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.840 this Detroit Lions backfield is gonna outproduce every single one of these guys would 945 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:23.239 be outside of Miami, Yeah, every single last one. Christian McCaffrey, 946 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.039 No, because Mitch's not gonna get any touches. Yeah, this is not 947 01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:30.960 gonna happen. This is fucking stupid. Chicago actually maybe two, but you 948 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.360 got three really good wide receivers. I doubt Chicago's gonna be running ball upon 949 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.480 the ball upon the ball, although their offensive coordinators coming from Seattle. But 950 01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.480 and you're gonna change your style play with Kayleb Williams the quarterback versus Geno Smith. 951 01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:45.320 The best part about this other other than the forty nine ers, the 952 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.679 other two backfields you'd look at that are actually on this list. Comparable to 953 01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:57.760 the Lions are the Dolphins and the Rams, and a reason why their backfields 954 01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.519 are so good is because they face some of the softest boxes in the nflp 955 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:05.119 because with the Dolphins, you gotta worry about Waddle and Tyreek Hill. With 956 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:10.039 the Rams, you gotta worry about Pooka and Cooper Cup. So you're running 957 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:14.639 in a six man box, maybe maybe a six man box. The Lions 958 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.400 are a run first team. Everybody knows the Lions want to run the ball. 959 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.199 Everybody knows they got to try to stop the run, but they do 960 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:26.920 it anyways. The Dolphins and the Rams are past first teams, so their 961 01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.400 running game, their running backs are obviously going to benefit from that when they're 962 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.159 seeing a bunch of nickel and dime packages they got. I mean, we 963 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:38.519 saw just this year too. Kyrin Williams was one of the top five rushers 964 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:41.599 of this league. Yes, and that's with missing games. Yes, hey, 965 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.679 my guy, appreciate you rock with us. Not Jamal Williams. Way 966 01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.719 better than Jamal Williams. However, he is way better than thirteen rush of 967 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:53.639 sixty one yards. That's not he has benefited from having a gunslinger, a 968 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.960 quarterback, and two top fifteen receivers on the outside. Like when you have 969 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:01.599 Cooper Cup and Pooking a cool to worry about. You're not gonna sell out 970 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.159 to stop Kyron Williams. You're gonna sell out stop those guys, and we 971 01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:12.000 stopped them. Yeah, it's I don't know. This one makes way less 972 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.199 sense to me than the GMS. Yeah, the Detroit Lions were the fifth 973 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:20.039 ranked rushing team in football last season. You know who was ahead of them? 974 01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:25.639 The Ravens, the Bears, and the Cardinals all have running quarterbacks. 975 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.800 So basically we're flirting right there with the top two. And this these two 976 01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:35.079 combined for twenty four yards three hundred or twenty four touchdowns twenty two three hundred 977 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:40.280 and ninety three. Holy shit, that was a handful. This is insane. 978 01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:44.599 You debatably have a top two running game. Nobody is coming out of 979 01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.280 the box to chase Jared Goff down the field. It is our running backs 980 01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:51.960 and offensive line. You have to give the backs credit for hitting the right 981 01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:57.840 holes, making the right reads, which they do often. I really think 982 01:07:57.880 --> 01:07:59.880 they're just trying to rile U up in. It's working, and it's w 983 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.800 This is Chris Simms, right, this is Chris Simms, Chris Sims and 984 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:08.039 Florida Chris Simms, Mike Florio. You guys can lick my sweaty ball sack. 985 01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:13.400 Like the Lions have the best backfield in the NFL. Hard stop argue 986 01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.479 with the fucking wall, Like say you got Christian McCaffrey. Okay, we 987 01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:23.960 got Gibbs and Montgomery. Elijah mentioned was nowhere near Gibbs or Montgomery. By 988 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.239 the number, like it's ridiculous, by the number, by the tape, 989 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:32.000 by this scheme. It's just it's And here's the thing too, because I 990 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.640 liked it, because we obviously have a relationship with Connor Rodger. We have 991 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:38.920 him the show a few times a year. He's close with Simms, like 992 01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:42.920 SAMs kind of helped bring him along from Bleach Report to NBC. So like 993 01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.880 when I send some of because Sims will have this like even during my draft 994 01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.039 season. I think a matter of fact, he had Zach Wilson. Did 995 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.159 he have like him the number one ranked quarterback coming out of that year's jack 996 01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:55.840 class. I'm pretty sure he had. I'm ranked with Trevor Lawrence something crazy 997 01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:59.199 like that, But he has these matter of fact, look at his dB 998 01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.000 list heading in those last draft class, Taron Arnold was only one on there 999 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:05.399 that was like respected or anybody like anybody else in the draft community. I 1000 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.640 think he just wings it. But I also don't see that because I wing 1001 01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.560 it sometimes too, and we're still way off sims. I want to give 1002 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.079 them respect for being a former quarterback in the NFL and all the stuff like 1003 01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:18.880 that made me lose a lot of respect. This happens to way too often, 1004 01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:21.920 yes, way too often for me to just respect what they got going 1005 01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:27.720 on. 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It's obviously 1054 01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:56.279 future. Very not future numbers, not even close. Let's talk about Junior 1055 01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:58.760 Gibson. It's future because you have him here. It's not future. I 1056 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:00.600 just come on, we can we just move? Can you? Does not 1057 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.399 say something crazy like that, It's not crazy. He's just not a raptor. 1058 01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:08.079 He's not even No one use him as a rapper zero bar football. 1059 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:15.239 The future of the Detroit Lions backfield is very bright. Yes, and we 1060 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:17.720 talked. I talked about this with KG for a little bit about what you 1061 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:24.279 want to see, my god, about what you want to see, like 1062 01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:28.640 I want to see that. I want to see that but naked. No, 1063 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.159 honestly it would be awesome all right, doing jumping jacks. But usage 1064 01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.720 wise with this backfield, would you like to see it the same as last 1065 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:44.399 year? Or should they lean a little more to Jamior Gibbs as the RB 1066 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:50.479 one man? They could keep it the way they were doing it and switch 1067 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:55.239 way. I mean, I wouldn't. I'm really not pressed. I will 1068 01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:59.079 say this though we know running backs NFL the reason why there are devalues. 1069 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:00.960 You put a lot of mileage on them and wears and tears in their body. 1070 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.079 They just at certain point don't hold up. Guys, like King Henry 1071 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.079 are just like the anomalies when it comes to that. And even he looked 1072 01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:11.760 a little bit slower at time, that guy is still really good. It's 1073 01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:15.399 crazy as the Baltimore Ravens right now, regardless though they keep it the way 1074 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.279 they're doing it right now. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1075 01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:23.960 step back from I don't even want to say this. I'm not saying this 1076 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.640 is gonna happen. I just wouldn't be surprised if if Gibbs does take this 1077 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:30.199 saying the full rains we saw towards the back half of last season, Gibbs 1078 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:34.239 actually getting like a few like red zone snaps when primarily that was Dave Montgomery's 1079 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:38.800 role. But I could see him tinking a step back just because natural wearing 1080 01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:43.279 tear on the on the body of a guy who's plays very physical style of 1081 01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.359 running the ball, which is David Montgomery. But Jamier Gibbs definitely deserves more 1082 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.239 touches even if they if they decide to do that, But I like keeping 1083 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:53.079 them fresh, keep a split ain'd tripping. Yeah, I'm really not I 1084 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:56.359 would agree. I would agree. I kind of backed off. My take 1085 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.960 originally was that I'd like to see Gibbs be the RB one. But then 1086 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.239 when me and Kenny kind of broke it down, shout out KG by the 1087 01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:08.760 way, he did fantastic when he was on his first in studio desk appearance. 1088 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:14.479 But they were kind of RB one RB one A like there wasn't really 1089 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:18.680 a solidified running back one last year, and we saw how the snap share 1090 01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:24.239 went. They're each gonna get theirs. They're still gonna get theirs. These 1091 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:28.920 are guys that you can put in and it's not like they're not type cast 1092 01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.960 like Denzel Washington. It's not like you know what's gonna happen when they're out 1093 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.319 there. Montgomery can catch the ball out of the backfield pretty damn well, 1094 01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:42.000 and we saw Jamiir Gibbs can run between the tackles pretty damn well. So 1095 01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.039 it's not like when Jamier Gibbs is out there, it's like, oh, 1096 01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:45.920 it's gonna be a pass play and when Montgomery's out there, Oh it's gonna 1097 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.279 be a run. No, you don't know what's gonna happen. So I 1098 01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:54.039 think they're gonna do the same thing they did last year. Give them both 1099 01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:58.319 an equal amount of touches. But now it's gonna be a full year of 1100 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:00.720 it, because remember the first couple gameslast year, Jamiir wasn't really involved in 1101 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.920 the offense. So I'm excited to see what they do. And I talked 1102 01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.960 about it with KG. I think they're gonna get a little tricky. Maybe 1103 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:15.159 some wildcat snaps with Montgomery, who is a former quarterback, taking a ball, 1104 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.520 running a Reid option with Jamir Gibbs. Maybe they run both of them 1105 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:23.119 in the backfield at the same time. Maybe Jamir Gibbs lined up as a 1106 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.520 slot and using emotion to bring him in the backfield, or on a sweep 1107 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:29.000 like they do with Jamo. Like, I think they're gonna get a little 1108 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.199 freaky with these guys out there. They should do it. Yeah, that's 1109 01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.840 what we were kind of promised. That was what Jamier Gibbs was advertised as 1110 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:41.399 all off season come regular season weapon, he was a running back. However, 1111 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:44.119 I will say this, they did give him opportunities early on the season. 1112 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:46.399 Actually, even in the Chicago game won in a Chicago where we actually 1113 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.960 still had a fighting chance, he dropped like a walk in touchdown on the 1114 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:53.159 flats. He did the same against I don't know if it would have been 1115 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.199 a touchdown, but knowing him now, probably would have been against the Seattle 1116 01:16:56.239 --> 01:17:00.319 Seahawks. Like the hands as much as they were in camp, and I'm 1117 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.600 not trying to knock them, but they weren't what what we were promised, 1118 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:05.840 per se. So we did get to see him as that weapon. We 1119 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.920 did get to see him like run routes out of the slot. I mean, 1120 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.600 he saw him obviously line up there and do it, but nothing was 1121 01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.680 ever actually like thrown his way hoping to see that step out or that breakout 1122 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.479 for Jamier Gibbs. But that's one of those things man, hands like I 1123 01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:23.119 just I don't know you could teach those things at this point those these guys' 1124 01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:27.079 careers, Like rarely ever have you seen guys get better hands. And honestly, 1125 01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.239 I think it was just the yips. I don't think that's what his 1126 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.640 hands were. I think it was, yeah, a little bit of the 1127 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:36.760 yips he was. They didn't really go back to it that much throughout the 1128 01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:41.319 season, like it just it was a couple of times, and those stand 1129 01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:45.000 out because he didn't get many passes thrown to him, So the couple that 1130 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:47.640 he did, he did bobble, but I'm pretty confident that he's going to 1131 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.640 be a good receiving back. I think you just had the yips a little 1132 01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:54.880 bit. I think they stand out because it was more of like big situations 1133 01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:58.479 that could have breaken, like the games open. That's why it does stand 1134 01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.399 out. But I think it could have easily just like a rookie running back, 1135 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:04.399 I mean maybe afraid to you know, get popped over the middle as 1136 01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:08.279 well, which like we've seen Jerry Goff, we talked about it lead his 1137 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:12.560 guys well, like stay out of the danger zones. But when it comes 1138 01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.039 to Jamir Gibbs, for me, I think he's way too explosive to not 1139 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:21.760 give him more touches, specifically twenty five to the twenty five. Just tearing 1140 01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:26.600 up the middle, I think you see DeMont more, you know, closer 1141 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.079 to our own goal line and closer to the opposing team's goal line. That's 1142 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.359 where I want DeMont to get those short, hard yards to get and I 1143 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:36.880 want to see Gibbs in open space in the twenty five to twenty five. 1144 01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:41.720 I think that's how this offense is gonna groove, and I think that's how 1145 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:45.319 they're actually gonna run this team with Gibbs getting more carries between the twenty fives. 1146 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:50.079 Yeah, that makes sense to me. Sorry, I'm gonna I just 1147 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:54.760 saw what do you think about how you feeling? Chris? About what? 1148 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.079 Seriously? Yeah, I might know what portion of the of the Gibbs. 1149 01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:05.359 Oh the workload, yeah, work like just yeah, the work the workload. 1150 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:09.720 No, I'm I think it is going to lean more Gibbs this season, 1151 01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:14.920 but I think it will stick pretty traditionally because I think that Montgomery just 1152 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.199 you know, running between the tackles consistently and you know, and just pound 1153 01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:24.520 pounding the ball. I think that kind of leads to Jamier Gibbs being able 1154 01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.000 to be dynamic. So I think I think it kind of works better that 1155 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.520 way than the inverse. So I would say that they that they add some 1156 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.680 new wrinkles, because Ben Johnson always does. Every year, there's gonna be 1157 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:39.439 changes, but I would say it remains pretty much similar to what what what 1158 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:45.760 it was. Sorry, I'm preparing for this conversation with Peter because I finally 1159 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.039 got to look up some of the tweets he put out there and his claims 1160 01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:55.199 that the agreement Packers offense is better than the deat reliance and I'm just looking 1161 01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.880 at the numbers he pulled out there and just the relevance to like the actual 1162 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.279 game in itself. But I'm all in for Gibbs get more touches, I 1163 01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:04.279 don't think, and they can say no to it. But I also just 1164 01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:09.520 keep him fresh this seventeen game season. Split the carries. I mean, 1165 01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:12.439 let let you let Vaiki get a few of those things too, especially in 1166 01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.359 those games we're just kind of like, sorry, I got to reach well 1167 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.800 if we have, obviously, but keep those guys fresh because we're needed for 1168 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.560 the playoffs. Yeah, and I think they compliment each other. Well, 1169 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:25.840 like you said, you got Faky, you got Craig Reynolds as well, 1170 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:28.680 there's gonna be a lot of touches to go around. Then you got a 1171 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.159 lot of fresh legs to be running the ball. So I mean, shoot, 1172 01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:34.399 we even still got Ibrahim, who I still had some expectation for before 1173 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:40.520 we got hurt, and that else did he. I can look it up, 1174 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:47.159 mo Ibrahim. So what expectation for you guys be this year when we're 1175 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:51.520 talking about splits for most free agent Bati to have more touchdowns and Gibbs to 1176 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.359 have more yards? Is that how you would probably break it down if you 1177 01:20:55.399 --> 01:20:59.359 had to predict. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that because 1178 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.880 I agree with what Nick said. You're gonna use You're gonna use Montgomery inside 1179 01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:06.439 the twenties more and you're gonna use Gibbs in the middle of the field for 1180 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:11.880 those explosive plays. But also, like we've seen, Gibbs is a pretty 1181 01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:16.119 damn good finisher in the red zone too, So we'll see, we shall 1182 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:20.960 see. Shout out Antoine Winfield, Shout out Antoine Winfield. Yeah, get 1183 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:27.840 another d I fucking love I love Jamir Gibbs, like watching him play football 1184 01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:30.520 man, going to the nastiest dead legs in the league. Yes, already, 1185 01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.079 all right, I would honestly I have in the past claimed he was 1186 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:38.640 a top five guy in the league. That's why if you're gonna put these 1187 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:44.079 type of running back stables or backfields and ranked them, like maybe maybe it's 1188 01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:46.000 just me ranking him in that top five. I know it's not just me. 1189 01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:48.439 I've seen other people do it. It's wild. It's not that the 1190 01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:53.359 tr Lion's on there. It's absolutely insane. But we've seen Gibbs have like 1191 01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.920 fifty it was fifty two catches last year. But I think that number gets 1192 01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.880 up to seventy five two catches. Yes, last I think he gets up 1193 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.079 to I think he gets up to seventy five eighty. Honestly, I think 1194 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:08.239 it was the rookie yeps a little bit and then we got away from it 1195 01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:11.800 because as we've seen, if golf cannot trust you, he will not throw 1196 01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:14.479 you the ball as much. So I think this is a time where we 1197 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:18.720 exploit it with Jamel goingdeep, maybe some Gibbs wheel routes, definitely a lot 1198 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:24.079 of screens. So I'm looking forward to see Jamiir Gibbs being maybe the most 1199 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:27.760 dynamic player in the offense. It's crazy season because they kind of just phased 1200 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:31.199 him out in that way. It looks like throughout the season, like I 1201 01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:34.039 was, the first couple of games he really played that many snaps. A 1202 01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:36.720 few of them. He got a lot of catches in Seattle. I remember 1203 01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.560 they're trying to make that drive down there. I try to make a couple 1204 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:45.000 drives down there before half. But yeah, right after the last time he 1205 01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:49.720 had four more receptions or five or more I should say, was Week ten 1206 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:53.760 against Chicago, and that's actually when he then when he had that big drop. 1207 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:57.439 No, that was w only four targets under that or no, still 1208 01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:03.279 eight targets dropped considerably after the Chicago I remember two targets, four targets, 1209 01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:08.079 two targets. There has a big one. Seven targets against Minnesota, then 1210 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.239 three, then one. Just the catches. I guess weren't there seventy one 1211 01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:15.359 targets fifty two receptions. Obviously you want a better percentage, get it. 1212 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:20.119 I'm not tripping, I'm really not, but you should be tripping if you 1213 01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:23.920 don't have insurance. That's for sure. Assurance in the game. That's in 1214 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:27.479 fact. Make sure deductibles aren't climbing up, make sure your rates aren't climbing 1215 01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.800 up, and contact my guy Mark today. It's Mark at Swiss dot com. 1216 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.000 Again, that's Mark at Swiss dot com. Number one pick when it 1217 01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:40.840 comes to ssurance in Michigan, it's Marked at Swiss dot com. 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No, Oh we did an extra 1245 01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:42.880 pair. Hell, let's go all right. You guys had a topic on 1246 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.159 bed. Thank you Nikker the man you guys at the topic on bed that 1247 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:51.000 found a little bit interesting that Neil was trying to bait KG with And that 1248 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:57.199 was the Jim Harbor versus Dan Campbell convers Yes, now you your guy who 1249 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.520 still has Jim Harball on the top ten at the NFL level. Mm hmm. 1250 01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:02.760 Although I kind of agree with what Kag said. It's been a minute 1251 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:09.479 since he's coached been a minute. The same with uh Greg Roman, good 1252 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:14.439 offensive coordinator, but we've really only seen him with running quarterbacks. Just feel's 1253 01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:16.560 kid run. I don't think it's a situation where I run on Mike Lamar 1254 01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:21.399 in them. Yeah you think uh Jim Howe was a dog in that fight. 1255 01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:26.439 I yeah, I mean I'd still put Jim Harboll in the top ten. 1256 01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.439 I think Jim Harbaugh is one of the best football coaches on Earth right 1257 01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.600 now. Like the guy he does it. He obviously did it at the 1258 01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:35.079 college level. He's gotten to the super Bowl before. And it's not like 1259 01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:40.880 the NFL has changed that much since Jim Harball was last coaching it. It's 1260 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:44.680 not like the last time he coached, like there wasn't a forward pass or 1261 01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:47.840 like like they were running the triple option every snap, even though they were 1262 01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:51.840 running a lot of readoption with Colin Kaepernick. But it's when you look at 1263 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:58.079 his offense with with Alex Smith, it was a pretty pro style offense. 1264 01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:01.479 They just kind of changed it when Aepernick was brought in because of how electric 1265 01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:05.239 his legs were and because of how electric of a runner that Colin Kaepernick was. 1266 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:10.800 But I think Jim Harbaugh will have no problem adjusting to the NFL because, 1267 01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:13.760 like I said, I don't think it's changed too much since he's been 1268 01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:16.239 out of it, and I would still put him as a top ten coach 1269 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.439 in the NFL. Now, if you want to talk about if he's better 1270 01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.840 than Dan Campbell, I think that's an argument you can have. I would 1271 01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.760 right now, I would say yes. I would say strictly as a head 1272 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:30.359 coach, I would say yes, just resume wise and what he's done. 1273 01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:34.640 Yeah, yeah, what else are you going off of? This is a 1274 01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:42.600 guy who's gotten a national championship in college. He's like, he's one of 1275 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.279 the best head coaches in the NFL. For sure, He's one of the 1276 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.640 best football coaches in the world. See. I guess here's what I could 1277 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:55.359 say about Jim Harball is he and Dan Campbell actually do kind of similar very 1278 01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:59.039 similar, both former player coaches, both former players, I should say, 1279 01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:02.840 both those executive style guys. Like Jim as much as everywhere he's gone he's 1280 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:08.239 had success, never really been like his scheme been. His philosophy has never 1281 01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:10.880 been his scheme. Same with Dan Campbell. His philosophy. Who comes to 1282 01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:14.439 detr Lin's offense but not his scheme per se. And I don't know. 1283 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:17.479 I mean, I'm not so much harping on Jim Harball more than it is, 1284 01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:21.159 I guess like Greg Roman, and I just don't know how. I 1285 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:25.880 don't know how he's gonna work with Justin Fields. I just I haven't seen 1286 01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:29.159 him in that capacity. Justin Heerber apologize. I think it's still gonna obviously 1287 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:30.760 have the opportunity of ball out. I just right now I would take thinking 1288 01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.600 I just would in the modern day NFL. I just I mean Jim Harball 1289 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.800 is that he's got that personality we've heard constantly time and time after again. 1290 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:41.560 It wears on you. With Dan Campbell, I think it's kind of the 1291 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:43.840 opposite. You can you can only like you kind of just love this guy 1292 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.800 regardless of matter what. Yeah, I think when it comes to winning percentage, 1293 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.680 which I think you can based coaches off that. I mean, Dan 1294 01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:54.720 Campbell obviously took over the rebuild, and I don't see us looking back for 1295 01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:59.920 a very long time. Opposite to Greene's perspective, our window is wide open 1296 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.840 and not closing anytime soon. So I think we're gonna run this division for 1297 01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:08.800 a long time. And if not run it at least have eleven wins for 1298 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.560 a very long time. But when it comes to hardball, we've seen him 1299 01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:15.000 do it. We've seen him get to the super Bowl. He is fifth 1300 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:18.520 all time in winning percentage when it comes to NFL head coaches head coaches, 1301 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:24.560 I think he's gonna have no problem turning around Justin Herbert and these LA Chargers 1302 01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.479 once he gets that run game going and gets a strong defense, because that's 1303 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:33.239 what he does. He runs the ball, has his quarterback be extremely accurate, 1304 01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:36.199 And I think he's gonna do the same and fix Justin Herbert end up 1305 01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:43.439 becoming a winning quarterback. Chris, you know what I mean. He's got 1306 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.000 he's got the resume. Like Smith said, it's hard, it's hard to 1307 01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:50.840 argue that part. But ultimately, Dan Campbell has had more NFL success more 1308 01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:54.760 recently, and I and and so I have to lean with him. And 1309 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:59.039 I thought you brought up a good point about just the the personalities that it 1310 01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:03.359 works with because it is an adjustment dealing with college players versus professional athletes. 1311 01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:09.439 And obviously he's shown the ability to make that, to make that connection. 1312 01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:13.920 So I'm not doubting it. But Dan Campbell has a one of one connection 1313 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.960 with his players. I mean, we can count on one hand how many 1314 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:23.800 players did not enjoy their Detroit experience under Dan Campbell. Yeah. Like, 1315 01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:29.720 he just gets the most out of these guys and he maximizes everything he has. 1316 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:34.079 So I think I would take Dan Campbell over Harball right now in my 1317 01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:38.760 personal opinion. But I think he's a damn good coach and I think you 1318 01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:42.359 know him inheriting a good roster that he has with the Chargers, I think 1319 01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:45.319 he's got the potential to do very well. I mean the one year before 1320 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:51.760 Kaepernick took over to Alex Smith. I mean it's hard to just even do 1321 01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:56.159 this too, because Zack Smith isn't really He's good, yeah, but he 1322 01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:58.439 wasn't. Like this would be by far the best quarterback he's hit in the 1323 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:01.039 NFL, oh by year, not getting close. How about this one? 1324 01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:04.119 Even if you look at Andrew luks numbers at Stanford, Yeah, I don't 1325 01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:08.520 think there were exceptionally. I think it's the same thing, like the pound 1326 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.359 the rock. That's what Jim Harble likes to do. I will say this 1327 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:14.960 though, and this is another part of it for me, is they don't 1328 01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.720 really have any running backs they have a fantastic offensive line. Now they grabbed 1329 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:25.319 a what's his name for Notre Dame and then I like Slater as well too. 1330 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:29.239 But what running back do you have behind there that's gonna do damage? 1331 01:31:29.319 --> 01:31:30.119 I can you know what? I'm gonna take that one, ba, because 1332 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:34.319 running back's coming out of Andrew. Pretty good numbers. Let's check them out. 1333 01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:39.079 What ether is? Uh? Sophomore year he had thirty three hundred yards, 1334 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:43.680 thirty two touchdowns, eight interceptions. His junior senior year he had thirty 1335 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:46.640 five hundred yards, thirty seven touchdowns, ten interceptions. Damn, that's actually 1336 01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:51.439 that's pretty. He was pronounced quarterback guru before it was a thing, and 1337 01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:56.239 then he finally got his quarterback, his five star guy that he brought into 1338 01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:00.600 Michigan. I don't know what, what why it took him so long when 1339 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:02.600 you go through Spieth and never had a good quarterback in Michigan. Yeah, 1340 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.880 they state John o'corn. I mean they probably beat OSU a lot earlier if 1341 01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:09.840 he would have had one. But I mean you saw what happened once he 1342 01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:12.920 got JJ. It was three straight Big Ten championships, They got to the 1343 01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:15.760 Natty. They want it. He's going back to the NFL. But the 1344 01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:20.239 thing he did have in San fran Pat Willis like a stack defense and like 1345 01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:24.960 Justin Smith. Like you guys remember those d lines Na borro Bowman, Patrick 1346 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.720 Willis, Alden Smith, Justin Smith. They were sick that nasty, nasty 1347 01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:33.479 defenses. I love San Francisco back then because I love linebackers, and they 1348 01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:38.640 had two of the best linebackers in the NFL. So Patrick Willis is one 1349 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:41.239 of my favorite players of all time, and I loved watching their don't play 1350 01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:45.279 defense. So I'm curious to see what he's gonna do with LA's defense. 1351 01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:47.359 That's where like, if he has a solid defense, I think this team 1352 01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:54.000 making the playoffs. Honestly, Yeah, looking at their defensive quarter right now. 1353 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:58.000 Actually, I mean they you know, they got pieces on defense. 1354 01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.359 It's if they can stay healthy. Like Derwin j. James went healthy is 1355 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:04.119 arguably the best safety in the NFL. You've got Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, 1356 01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:09.239 who are two upper echelon pass rushers. If they can stay healthy. 1357 01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.479 Yeah, you added Junior Colson, who is my favorite linebacker in this draft. 1358 01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:15.920 Like, they they've got pieces on that defense, it's just if they 1359 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.520 can stay healthy. That's how it's always bet it sucks to because actually Janay 1360 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.520 Samuel as well. It's great on the outside. I'm actually say what I 1361 01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:28.399 wanted to say about it, say what you need to say. I I'm 1362 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:33.439 obviously taking Dan Campbell. However, if once Hardball gets his situation established, 1363 01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:38.279 the two versus each other, I could actually see it Harball, It'd be 1364 01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:40.560 good. It'd be good match. Like I said, Dude, I think 1365 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:45.680 Jim Harbaugh is I I would say he's a better coach. I would say 1366 01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:48.439 he's a better head coach. I'm not like that's no disrespect to Dan Campbell, 1367 01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:54.079 but I've seen Jim Harbaugh do more. If I love Dan Campbell, 1368 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:56.960 I would rather have Dan Campbell just because of who he is and what he 1369 01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:00.119 exudes. But when it comes to being a football coach, like Jim Harbaugh's 1370 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.880 definitely he's He's got some tism to him too. He's got he's got a 1371 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:09.000 little bit weird to him too, but that's he's he's everybody's on the spectrum 1372 01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:12.600 at some point, and he makes you realize, like how much of a 1373 01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:17.159 fucking football genius he is because of he's so weird. Like I thought you're 1374 01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:20.920 about to say, how much of a spectrum road Like, he's so like, 1375 01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:24.960 socially kind of awkward. It's like my older brother. My older brother 1376 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:28.359 is the smartest person I fucking know, not even close. But he's a 1377 01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:30.640 little little awkward. But it's because he's so fucking smart. It's like Jim 1378 01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:35.279 Harbaugh, because he's so football focused. He's a little fucking weird. He 1379 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:39.840 has a certain amount of band to work. Yeah, yeah, literally, 1380 01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:45.399 social skills. Yeah, I hope Herbert's ready for the pregame shoulder pad banging 1381 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:47.399 from Yeah, Harva. I mean, he's weird. He does stuff his 1382 01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:50.760 own way, no doubt about it. Dad lifts and khakis and ship like. 1383 01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:58.720 He's a weird guy, but he gets results. Yeah. If you 1384 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.800 put him in this offense, he'd be we'd be better justin Herbert, if 1385 01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.600 you Jim Harbaugh was running this off we'd be dominant. I mean, but 1386 01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:08.159 I don't think he would do much different than we're doing that. It wouldn't 1387 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:12.119 be much different. I likes he said they're pretty similar coaching styles. Yeah, 1388 01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.399 it's just I think he's a little better of I think an analytic football 1389 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.680 mind. We would have play caller. I don't even know. I don't 1390 01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:21.760 know what that though. I think Dan Cambl's better analytically too. I just 1391 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:25.479 think Harball is just like I mean, they're saying many both executive guys. 1392 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.840 I think we're the best play call of the two squads though. Yeah, 1393 01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:32.079 obviously Ben Johnson over Greg Roman. Yeah for sure. No, I don't. 1394 01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:34.840 I'm not saying I'm no, yeah, getting rid of Dan Campbell for 1395 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:40.680 Jim Harbaugh. No, But like Apollo says, this show is always Grass's 1396 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.960 other greener syndrome. No, it's it's okay to say we're not the best 1397 01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:46.720 in the league at everything, Like there's gonna be better things. I wouldn't 1398 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.560 rather have Jim HARBAUGHM I love Dan Campbell, I want him to be my 1399 01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:53.600 head coach. But it's okay to say Dan Campbell isn't the best head coach 1400 01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:57.039 in the NFL. This is a great one in the chat from Yes, 1401 01:35:57.520 --> 01:36:00.920 can you imagine Harbaugh and Campbell trying to hang out? No, No, 1402 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:03.720 they are too. Dan camp would have up beating the show. Dan Campbell 1403 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:09.920 would end up fighting him, beating one million times out of one million. 1404 01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:14.119 Rather chill with Dan Campbell than Jim Harbo. Oh not even close the golf 1405 01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:16.159 fans are confirmed everything we already knew. Yeah, and plus I don't know 1406 01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:19.319 because we talked about it, but that the podcast that instantly did with Chris 1407 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:23.279 Long and Chris Long was like, yeah, no, I got I got 1408 01:36:23.359 --> 01:36:26.159 some stories. I don't thank Campbell's party or back. Dude, I'd be 1409 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.359 slamming beers with Dan Campbell all day. Jim Harboro, I don't know, 1410 01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:32.479 you'd be drinking like whiskey straight like the one the one side story that had 1411 01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:35.399 and it didn't really go much further than this was actually kind of weird. 1412 01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:38.880 I'm not gonna lie to you. And I guess it makes sense, you 1413 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:42.079 know how much like Dan Campbell was like the heavy metal like the I think 1414 01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:45.560 it's a I think it's a CDC in it. Yeah, no, that's 1415 01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:48.319 what I just apologize either way, So I guess like the off seasons like 1416 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:53.359 it. Ritually, he would just go and spend a week at the spot 1417 01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:57.439 in Las Vegas that's like a it's an old castle. It's a it's a 1418 01:36:57.479 --> 01:37:00.439 casino, but it's an old castle casino, and he would just get like 1419 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:05.039 the highest like penthouse floor. He'd be a week. I don't need stories 1420 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:08.079 better than that. Dan Campbell. Yeah, that's what he used to do 1421 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:11.039 as a player, like ritually, that'd be like one of the first movies 1422 01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:15.079 you make, Jet in Las Vegas. Yeah, some wild show for sure, 1423 01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:19.399 dude, I loved Honestly, he probably locked himself and they did at 1424 01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:24.840 Way and Rodgers just tripping out. Oh yeah, probably just doing a bunch 1425 01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:31.159 of blow. Just had the hair, megand ship and going insane, a 1426 01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.479 lot of extra curriculum in the mirror in the coke. That's just doing his 1427 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:42.239 like his pregame speeches, flexing and ship. Listen, man, listen what 1428 01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:49.680 I think about as you guys? Man listen back and forth? Yeah, 1429 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:58.840 on cold highlights, like, oh hell yeah, absolutely. I loved Dan 1430 01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:02.159 Campbell is the goat, dude, I I love Dank Campbell. When we 1431 01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:04.560 get back, hopefully you would be joined by Peter. Let me get in 1432 01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:08.880 contact with him, make sure you're not getting technical difficulties. But before then, 1433 01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:13.079 Nick, would you like to tell us about the morning show, best 1434 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:17.319 morning show in the city in the world. Woodard Sports has a new morning 1435 01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:20.720 show. 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Don't you remember what happened 1462 01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:20.000 in the beginning of the season. And both of those things are somewhat reasonable 1463 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:26.159 things to think, to say, arguments to make. But even with a 1464 01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:30.279 slow start to the season, and even with a first year starter at quarterback, 1465 01:40:30.479 --> 01:40:34.960 which means a first year play caller for that quarterback, even though it's 1466 01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:39.000 not Matt Leffler's first year calling plays, it's his first year calling plays for 1467 01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:44.520 Jordan Love and even with a slew of new starters along the offensive line, 1468 01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:48.119 an offensive line upheaval, a platoon at left tackle, a platoon at right 1469 01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:54.960 guard to end the season, and even with the youngest group of pass catchers 1470 01:40:55.279 --> 01:41:00.520 in modern NFL history, and even with Aaron Jones I'm seeing more than half 1471 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:06.359 of the season the agreement. Packers were fifth in EPA per play last season. 1472 01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:12.680 They were six in DVOA defensive justin value over average for those of you 1473 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:15.399 who are new here, one of my favorite stats that exists. So when 1474 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:19.119 you look at the teams ahead of them, it is difficult to make the 1475 01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:26.039 case that any of those teams will be better than the Packers in twenty twenty 1476 01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:33.520 four. Talkers cheap motherfucker nick Ka playing games. N I'll let you spend 1477 01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:36.760 this one first. Can I say something off the top of my head. 1478 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:40.439 I already know three offenses that are going to be better than the Packers next 1479 01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:42.920 year, and that is the Detroit Lions, the Miami Dolphins, and the 1480 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:45.640 Houston techan Texans. They are all going to have better offenses than the Packers. 1481 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:48.079 The Packers next year. You can take that to the bank. I 1482 01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:53.439 do. I was on record earlier saying, I think the Packers have a 1483 01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:56.680 deeper wide receiver corp than the Lions. I like their wide receiver corps, 1484 01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:00.520 but the Lions have better wide receiver in I'm andros Saint Brown. I think 1485 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.720 when Jamison Williams comes out to play next year, I think he'll be better 1486 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:08.079 than their number two wide receiver next year. I think they have obviously the 1487 01:42:08.119 --> 01:42:13.560 better tight end and better running back combo and a better offensive line. So 1488 01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.039 I don't I don't see where they could be better than, uh than the 1489 01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:26.840 than the the Detroit Lions at all that. I mean, Wow, they're 1490 01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:29.000 not going to be better than the Lions. They're not going to be better 1491 01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:30.279 than the Texans, and they're not going to be better than the Dolphins. 1492 01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:35.680 I just I don't know how to even find the e p A ranking. 1493 01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:42.039 What is e p A easy expected like yards per average? I mean you 1494 01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:46.279 could take that perspective point better than the Lions. You could take that e 1495 01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:53.439 p A and shove it up your assad ways and shove it straight up your 1496 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.600 show me touchdowns, show me yards, show me ship. You don't have 1497 01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.439 to project or ship. You don't have to make ups six words for show 1498 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:04.560 me what they're doing on the actual field, And in that case, the 1499 01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:09.960 Lions were better. And in that case, the the Miami Dolphins are going 1500 01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.960 to be better. In that case, the Houston Texans are gonna be better. 1501 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.520 I'm gonna say the Rams are gonna be better too. Like come on, 1502 01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:21.880 man, this guy's tripping off of bad cheese and IPAs, like get 1503 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.920 out of here. You think about the Lions offense alone, you think about 1504 01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:30.399 two All pros in Saint Brown and Laporta. You think about the best two 1505 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:35.399 running back the tandem in the whole entire NFL. This guy's tripping. Have 1506 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:41.560 fun playing on the road in the wild card this year because the Lions own 1507 01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:45.119 this division and take your best offense and shove it. Let's go easy what 1508 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:49.880 you got. I'm just don't don't. I don't agree. I think they 1509 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:53.399 could be explosive offense. I think they're gonna be a good offense. Yeah, 1510 01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:57.279 that's the argument I was making for you know, Jordan Love being good. 1511 01:43:57.319 --> 01:43:59.520 It's like the young pass catches you had. I didn't know it was 1512 01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.920 the youngest in modern NFL history, and that is that's impressive. And you 1513 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:05.760 do expect those guys to take a leap. However, I don't know about 1514 01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:10.199 that offensive line yet. Yeah, you can talk about Jordan Morgan. We 1515 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.039 got to see it. It's difference where like at least what I'm talking about 1516 01:44:14.039 --> 01:44:15.520 the Jordan love stuff, we have like a sample size that we don't know 1517 01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.840 what Jordan Morgan is at the NFL level yet a lot of people still feel 1518 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.119 like not a lot of people, but there are some people out there, 1519 01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:24.560 with myself included, that feels like they may have been like a little bit 1520 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:28.439 of a reach and they selected him at twenty five. That's a strong, 1521 01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:32.720 strong take. I wouldn't be surprised though, if they If he's ranking them 1522 01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:36.119 by e PA, you might catch him there. I mean here, here's 1523 01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:42.720 based off n f e l O dot Com, NFL Power Rankings, offensive 1524 01:44:42.760 --> 01:44:46.399 EPA rankings, and this is both passing and running one two, three, 1525 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.600 four. Okay, So then does that meaning? What does the EPA mean 1526 01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:55.279 expected points on average? I want to say, let me just google so 1527 01:44:55.359 --> 01:45:02.279 get you the exact definition. What are little girls made of? Relaxed? 1528 01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:10.000 Relax? You ever seen that video? That sounds even crazier? All right? 1529 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:15.800 Expected points added is commonly used advance statistic in football and short that's that 1530 01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:20.239 measures how well a team performs compared to their expectation on a play by play 1531 01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:25.239 basis. E p A and e p A per play, along with other 1532 01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:30.000 stats. Using e p A can help you us evaluate team and player performance 1533 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.960 not with so if you guys know they scored on this play, if they 1534 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:36.319 were able to score on the like, so I know, d v O 1535 01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:41.479 A is like four yards, like it's like the average. So it's like, 1536 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:48.640 how did your play measure against that four yard average? I don't give 1537 01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:54.319 a ship about advanced analytics honestly, Like the Lions and Packers are actually tied 1538 01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.399 great I mean the teams that are there did have great offenses. I mean 1539 01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:03.359 number one was the forty nine ers, number two, Bills, Cowboys, 1540 01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:08.560 Dolphins, Ravens, Lions, Packers, Eagles, Rams. You think about 1541 01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:12.319 the additions this defense is made too, though, just specifically the Lions going 1542 01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:15.199 up against this Packer team where we saw him coming to Ford Field on Thanksgiving 1543 01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:20.239 and obviously win the game. This defense is gonna look completely reshaped next season, 1544 01:46:20.359 --> 01:46:23.760 Like, bring it on. I am not scared of the Packers going 1545 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:28.000 into the next season, especially after hearing this guy just hype him up. 1546 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.640 On some I mean, I think you should be a little worried about the 1547 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:32.479 Packers. I do think the Packers are the biggest threat in our division. 1548 01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:38.479 I think our defense sucked, but our defense definitely sucked. And but you're 1549 01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:41.159 saying they're going to be the best offense in the league. That's a reach. 1550 01:46:42.439 --> 01:46:45.159 You think, Yeah, they are the second, my bad second favorite, 1551 01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:47.239 the Packers. Yeah, I mean, yeah, no doubt when I 1552 01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:50.680 don't, I mean, Dion thinks it's the Bears. I think the Bears 1553 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:53.560 gonna be good too. I think they'll be good, But I think that 1554 01:46:53.800 --> 01:46:56.239 I think the Packers are a good team. Don't don't get me wrong here. 1555 01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:58.000 I do think the Packers are a good team. I think they've got 1556 01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:00.840 a good offense. But the number one offense in the NFL is a little 1557 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.520 much like I said, off the top of my head, I had three 1558 01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:08.199 four even that are gonna be better. The expected points value thing too. 1559 01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:11.039 It's similar to me with like the war stuff that I already don't like when 1560 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:14.000 it's like win's above replacement, like, yeah, you have your average, 1561 01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:16.439 but especially football, of all sports, baseball is up the two. It's 1562 01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:20.760 just the context of like what can happen is so like wildly outrageous. You 1563 01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:24.399 just there is no way to measure that average. In might opinon you can 1564 01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:28.159 have a average, but you just can't tell me that's like expected or like 1565 01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:30.000 this is gonna happen like football isn't that? I love the way I love 1566 01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:33.359 describe it as a football, as a as a ball, the shape itself. 1567 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.199 If you dropped this straight, you never know what the hell to expect 1568 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:40.520 even know where the ball is gonna go. Yeah, it's it's as wild 1569 01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:44.439 etn In the world wards sports chat packers are number one in yards when the 1570 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:47.079 time is between two minutes and three seconds and or two oh three and two 1571 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:51.439 oh seven pm, and when the temperature is between twenty three point six and 1572 01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:55.600 twenty three point nine degrees. So but I did they got it there? 1573 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:59.560 They got it there where you gotta avoid them. Yeah, I just yeah, 1574 01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:03.359 I could read the full definition here on the website if you want. 1575 01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:10.760 From Troit City. This guy can eat ship hashtag s M d GB. 1576 01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:13.960 I do. Like we've had him on before. He's he's a cool guy. 1577 01:48:14.279 --> 01:48:15.119 He's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. He knows 1578 01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:18.520 the ship. He's obviously got a lot of the advanced analytics, but I 1579 01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:24.000 I can't see the Packers offense being better than the Lions. Okay, so 1580 01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:28.000 than the Dolphins, then the Texans, then the Rams, even the Bengals. 1581 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:32.039 Maybe like the Steelers. I think the Steelers are gonna have a pretty 1582 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:36.239 damn good offense too. Relax, you are big on the RST train. 1583 01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:40.000 I like the Steelers, man, I like the Steelers. Are you on? 1584 01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:49.279 No, let's steal? In order to calculate e PA, for one 1585 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:54.000 has to know the expected points before the play and the expected points after the 1586 01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:58.840 play. Already what we did expected expected. I don't give a shit about 1587 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:01.279 what you're expecting. Show me what actually happened, and that's what I'll base 1588 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:08.000 my decision off of. So expected points on this by yard line and down 1589 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:12.319 six points is expected. It depends where you are on the field too. 1590 01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.279 That's just fucking stupid. Dude, this is pretty stupid. I'm not gonna 1591 01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:18.640 lie, it is pretty fucking I'm not a big advance analytic guy. There 1592 01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:23.079 are some advanced analytics I like, but shit like this where it's like, 1593 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:26.800 well if this happens because of that, then that means that, like, 1594 01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:30.560 fuck out of here. Expected points is based on down in yards to go 1595 01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:35.560 until a first down and distance to end zone are The values for expected points 1596 01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:41.239 has been found by taking historical data and computing the average number of points scored 1597 01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:45.680 by the possessing team in each situation. The graph I had to show you 1598 01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:49.119 this graph, I guess this is if you guys want to try to break 1599 01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:51.920 it down. I don't want to embarrass ourselves. I'd probably do this one 1600 01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:55.039 in private, to be honest with you. Probably doing in private. Yeah, 1601 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:58.159 probably don't want to make myself look stupid here. I'm just saying right 1602 01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:00.880 now, I think it's more likely the packers a outside of the top five 1603 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:02.640 then they are number one. You know, you know who sent me something 1604 01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:10.000 with the EPA actually was uh okay, al hell yeah, maybe I'll canna 1605 01:50:10.039 --> 01:50:15.760 touch it out see by Mike Hilton. Hello, Hello, shout out Mike 1606 01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:18.039 Hilton, shout out. Uh tell us about merch, Chris, Yes, 1607 01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:23.560 sir, if you need some brand new merch, you know where to go. 1608 01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:26.680 Hit up Woodworthsports dot com. Coick that shot tab today, hoodies, 1609 01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:30.640 tease hats all guaranteed to turn heads. So head on over to Woolworthsports dot 1610 01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:36.680 com. 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Yeah, this is ep A play. 1628 01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:24.880 How do I just do it? All right? What do you think? 1629 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:32.439 The Lions ranked the e p A passing third six? Okay, Packers 1630 01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:38.199 were ahead of them. Rushing were first, rushing probably second. Let me 1631 01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:46.199 see. Wow, wow, what are the rushing? What are they rushing? 1632 01:52:46.760 --> 01:52:49.399 There's they're six? Yeah, okay, it means nothing. EPA is 1633 01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:54.760 bullshit. You want who's up ahead of them? The Packers, No, 1634 01:52:55.479 --> 01:52:57.680 Cardinals, I mean, these are just the bad teams. I don't agree 1635 01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:00.640 with that. Ahead of them the Bills. I can see the Rams, 1636 01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:04.239 I guess just from Kyra William James Coke was pretty good. The Bills, 1637 01:53:04.720 --> 01:53:13.199 Cardinals, Ravens, Rams, and Niners. Yeah. I don't give a 1638 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:17.000 fuck about EPA, Like you can eat of theseep of these nuts. Yeah, 1639 01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.760 I want to. I want to see what you do on the field. 1640 01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:24.720 That's how I decide who is a better offense is what you do on 1641 01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:29.560 the field, you know, like yards, points, touchdowns, things like 1642 01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.840 that. You know, stuff that actually matters and you actually have to do 1643 01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:40.279 to win games, not estimations. I can estimate that I'm rod same Brown's 1644 01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:42.600 gonna go for two thousand yards next year, so that makes him the best 1645 01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:49.520 receiver in football. There we go. That's Spipa. The SPIPA on Jared 1646 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:53.800 Goff. He's gonna throw for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. Boom, 1647 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:58.000 there it is Hodginson, He's gonna break the sack record. He's the best 1648 01:53:58.039 --> 01:54:01.880 defensive lineman in the league. SPIPA on Premiere Gibbs Is, he's going to 1649 01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:05.720 go for two thousand yards rushing and a thousand yards receiving. You heard it 1650 01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:11.560 here first, Speapa bird size doesn't matter. Practice it to pay, love 1651 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:14.439 or let them walk, and once they pay, the window is closed. 1652 01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:18.479 Happened afar happened to Rogers. I will say this, They got a lot 1653 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:21.359 of rookie contracts. They got a lot of rookie a lot of contracts, 1654 01:54:21.399 --> 01:54:24.840 and we're in that same scenario. Burn if you if you put it that 1655 01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:28.039 black and white for sure, Yeah, even more so than being honest with 1656 01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:30.000 you, who do you? Who do you? Boys? Got for night 1657 01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:35.199 canes back in it with a win over the Range, so last time that 1658 01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:40.279 was a great game. I said earlier that that Rangers Canes is going to 1659 01:54:40.319 --> 01:54:43.479 be one of the best series of the playoffs, and it's been really good 1660 01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:47.319 so far. So hopefully, uh, hopefully they continue. Hopefully that that 1661 01:54:48.399 --> 01:54:51.159 the Canes can get one here. I like the Canes, but the Rangers 1662 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:56.560 so fucking good man. Yes, kind of sounds like raising canes when you're 1663 01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:01.119 sawing when of the Rangers Canes. Never I've never, but I've always heard 1664 01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:04.800 like good things too about it. I got Rangers here. I mean I 1665 01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:08.800 think there's a raising games in East Lansing though is Oh yeah, I did 1666 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:11.760 hear something about that. Yeah, I got Rangers, but I was just 1667 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:15.239 talking in the chests sad one for the Oilers last night. Damn. Yeah, 1668 01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:17.159 that's embarrassing, dude. I went to bed when it was four to 1669 01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:21.640 one because I thought it was wrapped up. Yeah, fucking choked that Cashot 1670 01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:25.720 would have been looking nice. Yeah, I mean, I still think they'll 1671 01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:30.079 win the series, but yeah, plaited after that. Bruin. What when 1672 01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:33.640 the Bruins playing again? They just played last night, so I missed that 1673 01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:36.800 game. Paul Thomas as one of the most exciting that was. I mean 1674 01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:42.479 that was those two games were obviously the complete polar opposites, like the Bruins 1675 01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:45.720 blew out the Panthers game one, Panthers blew at the Bruins in game two. 1676 01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:47.319 But there was a lot of fights and that that was. Neil said, 1677 01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:49.640 He's like, this is the most exciting four to one game I've ever 1678 01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:54.239 seen or six one or whatever it was. And it was. It was 1679 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:58.800 a fun game to watch. Pasta Pasta like, you're the only player on 1680 01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:02.600 Boston that I really like, and you know, props to you for doing 1681 01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:05.239 that, But what were you thinking, Like the Chuck is not you guy 1682 01:56:05.319 --> 01:56:10.039 to go after? Bro, that guy is a killer beast. He like, 1683 01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:12.319 Pasta went to his coach, He's like, can I do it? 1684 01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:15.119 I mean, if you want to. When he went out there, you 1685 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:18.479 guys asked, well, I did some research earlier. Postern went twenty fifth 1686 01:56:18.520 --> 01:56:21.439 in the draft. Red Wing's got the fifteenth. I mean, obviously it's 1687 01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:25.560 not crazy, but you can get players later. It doesn't have to just 1688 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:28.880 be top three, like obviously you find them all over and was gotten. 1689 01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:31.239 He went into a perfect It was like a seventh round pick. Yeah, 1690 01:56:31.439 --> 01:56:34.600 exactly, what kind of one of your thoughts on this fellas. I know 1691 01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:38.800 you guys all. I think you guys all picked Dallas in the series, 1692 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:42.520 but after the you guys saw what they looked like in Game one. I 1693 01:56:42.600 --> 01:56:46.640 got in too. Okay see Shay for thirty five after getting you know not 1694 01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:51.039 the MVP and then Chuck for fifteen. Yeah, I do thirty to be 1695 01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:55.520 safe, I would do thirty five. I just like he gets calls. 1696 01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:58.640 Man, he gets calls, he's gonna be He's gonna shooting on the at 1697 01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.439 the line a lot. I would see Dallas winning this game though, because's 1698 01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:05.079 a similar kind of way that the LA series went. Like the first game, 1699 01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:09.479 they came out flat, kind of got got right out of the gym. 1700 01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:12.479 Now this one, I think they come back. I think Luca has 1701 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:15.560 a game, and I think that was I think Dallas. I think okay 1702 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.560 See and Timberwolves have such the same vibe of like the young team that's so 1703 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:25.399 hungry, like I know Dallas, like when Luca is like obviously hungry as 1704 01:57:25.439 --> 01:57:28.640 well, but I don't know that. Well, okay See and Timberwolves look 1705 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.640 like head and shoulders. Yeah, they're definitely exceeding expectations. In that sense. 1706 01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:36.119 But Minnesota, you can't necessarily call them young. They're just led by 1707 01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:41.680 young guy. Like Towns has been the league. They're like they have an 1708 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.399 Yeah, they have a pretty veteran squad out outside of it, and and 1709 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:48.520 but yet somehow the twenty two year old kid is just he's a He's like 1710 01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:51.359 I said earlier, he's my favorite player in the NBA. It's not even 1711 01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:58.359 close. Dude. Did you see his today about about they Did you see 1712 01:57:58.399 --> 01:58:00.199 that? Reporter asked him, like, you know, how cool is it 1713 01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:02.399 like playing these guys that he looked up to? He's like, is there 1714 01:58:02.399 --> 01:58:04.840 anybody in this series like that? Like did you look up to Jamal where 1715 01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:08.840 he's like what Jamal Urrays like four years older than me? He's like hell 1716 01:58:08.960 --> 01:58:12.039 no, Like, no disrespect him. M Katie's like thirty five, Like 1717 01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:13.720 come on, I don't know what you're trying to start, but no, 1718 01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:18.279 I did not look up to Jamal Murray evers ye everg Yeah, Jamal Murray 1719 01:58:18.319 --> 01:58:21.560 is like twenty seven, he's turning twenty. Who else got that dog in 1720 01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:25.840 him right now? Nobody? He's got the most dog in the league. 1721 01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:29.720 And Jim Jimmy, you hear him talking about swimming, he' said I'm better 1722 01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:34.239 than Michael Phelps. Yeah, and him talking about Michael Jordan when he like 1723 01:58:34.359 --> 01:58:38.399 asked, asked, like to stop the comparisons of Michael Jordan. He's like, 1724 01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:41.199 you know, nobody's Mike, Like, stop stop saying that. And 1725 01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:44.439 the reporter asked him. He's like, well, if Michael was in this 1726 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:45.319 league, you think you'd be able to guard you. He's like, what 1727 01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:48.880 hell? No, he was like, would you be able to guard him? 1728 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:50.359 He's like, well, I wouldn't be able to stop him, but 1729 01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:54.880 I give him. Hell. What would be the question? Love this kid, 1730 01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:57.479 bab What would be the question you could ask him if if you were 1731 01:58:57.479 --> 01:59:01.159 a reporter sideline reporter asked her to a question because you know he's gonna answer 1732 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:05.800 honestly, raise your left hand, asks right hand tits. Yeah. No, 1733 01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:09.960 if I could ask him a question, it'd be like, is there 1734 01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:15.319 any possible way for you to go to Detroit? Yeah? There you go? 1735 01:59:15.159 --> 01:59:19.000 Is there anything that could have ever had? You'd say that, I'll 1736 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:24.439 just start crying. Do you guys want to reschedule Pete for tomorrow or Monday? 1737 01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:28.279 Well, I mean consider it? Does we just kind of Tom Brady 1738 01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:32.479 them right there. We kind of welcome to the roast. Oh yeah, 1739 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:38.079 so tomorrow tomorrow, all right, yeah you can. I can tell my 1740 01:59:38.199 --> 01:59:41.359 spepa stats and see how he really feels about it. You should just go 1741 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:47.279 spe him. You should mind. But the SPEPA says that that's quarterback the 1742 01:59:47.359 --> 01:59:50.840 way we uh so he goes on the street interviews is like that. Yeah, 1743 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:55.439 how do you feel about the speeple of Jamior Gibbs being higher rated than 1744 01:59:55.479 --> 01:59:59.399 Josh Jacobs when it comes to a per touch basis small PP appreciation? Yeah, 1745 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:01.399 all, I got to do it for us today. Appreciate you all 1746 02:00:01.439 --> 02:00:04.640 tapping into the world to heavyweights. Make sure you spatch that like button for 1747 02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:08.439 Easy, for Nick, for Chris. I'm Spencer with the Heavyweights. We'll 1748 02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:16.560 catch you guys tomorrow. Peace. Yeah,