WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:08.919 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety 2 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.480 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are getting 3 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:16.280 off our show, idiot. The kids are crying or turnl off, crying. 4 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.239 Their countries are screwing it up. Gold Play inter Murals, Brother, 5 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:24.079 Goldplay inter Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.600 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:40.600 Now? Here's nick Coffee. In my ten plus years doing sports talk 8 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.320 radio here in the Kentucky and a market, I've never once claimed to be 9 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.159 the brightest. In fact, some of it's just you know, self deprecation, 10 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:53.200 but also at times I make it quite clear that you know, I'm 11 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.280 not the brightest guy around. And I really feel like a dumb ass right 12 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.880 now as we get the show started on a Wednesday, because it just hit 13 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.280 me, like maybe ninety seconds ago, that Derby is not I thought Derby 14 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:10.079 was still like three weeks away. Derby's not this Saturday, but next right, 15 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:11.719 yes, I mean yeah, two years from me under. I guess 16 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.879 that explains why here I am feeling like, man, I'm kind of getting 17 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.560 the Derby vibes earlier than usual, maybe because it's Derby one fifty and it's 18 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.640 going to be special. Well, no, it's because it's actually going to 19 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.200 be here really soon, which you know has me excited. And I do 20 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.840 want to talk about this coming up here before too long. I mean, 21 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:30.480 it's not going to lead the show. It's not going to be, you 22 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.200 know, a huge part of the show. But it seems, for the 23 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.120 first time, at least that I can remember, there's more noise out there 24 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.120 from locals about how expensive it is to go to Derby and how expensive it 25 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:46.120 is to even go to Oaks, and you know, I just I have 26 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.680 some thoughts on that. But as someone who fortunately and I mean very fortunately, 27 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:56.640 I've been able to attend many Kentucky Derby's because of my job technically also, 28 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.799 you know, I work. I mean a lot of you probably wouldn't 29 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:01.359 call it, you know, work, but it's hard work for me because 30 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:05.560 I'm not good at it. And that's just doing the random roaming interviews with 31 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.599 people. It's just not my you know, which I know some are thinking, 32 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.199 well, you do the vibe check stuff. Totally different game, totally 33 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.800 different game. So anyways, I've been fortunate to go without having to pay, 34 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.159 and I've never gone. I mean, if I could not get in 35 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.400 with the credential, I wouldn't go. Because I could. I mean, 36 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.439 I could probably swing it financially, but it would be, you know, 37 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:29.400 more money than I usually spend on like anything. And I can enjoy the 38 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:30.960 Derby without being there because of everything that comes with it. I mean, 39 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.639 I have like four different derby parties. We try to you know, hit 40 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.800 every now, you know, throughout the day, just because you know you'll 41 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:42.680 be free us derby parties. Yeah, exactly. So anyways, let's let's 42 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.960 get the party started, shall we welcome in a Wednesday edition Coffee and Company 43 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.919 Feel by Thornton's Nick Coffee. That's me the company Man, John Allen alongside 44 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.680 today taking you up until six o'clock. Don't forget you can take us with 45 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.960 you wherever you go. 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We may have 53 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.520 a uh, you know, a piece of news dropped throughout the show today. 54 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.280 And I'm not saying that as if I've heard anything specific, but I 55 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.240 think just with a couple of players, I think Louisville, Louisville, you 56 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.319 know, could be on alert, meaning like in any moment. Well, 57 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.840 actually, I'm curious how the process works, because I do believe there's got 58 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:47.919 to be some some strategic uh you know, planning here from I don't know. 59 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.439 I assume Pat Kelsey, I don't know, But the way these commitments 60 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.800 have kind of staggered, I suppose it could be simply these guys just coming 61 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.360 to those decisions at different times. But it seems like really all of the 62 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.120 commitments have been able to, you know, get a few days of really 63 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:10.199 being sort of in the limelight with Louisville fans because you know, it's it's 64 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.120 a new piece, and so far, I think every player that they've added. 65 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.399 You know, it's not that fans are claiming this is going to be 66 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.319 a team full of you know, all Americans, but you know, good 67 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.759 pieces, no doubt. And you know, I think Wesley Yates, the 68 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.199 transfer from Washington, you know, he was here yesterday. I don't know 69 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.279 if he's going to visit other schools, but it sounds like his visit went 70 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.879 really really well. And then on you know, Tray or the big Man, 71 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.680 hybrid big man. He's not you know huge, he's about six seven, 72 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.680 but he plays like he's about six to eleven. He's the transfer from 73 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.319 Long Beach State. He visited over the weekend. And you know what has 74 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:48.000 kind of helped me at least get a get a feel for when a commitment 75 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:53.639 could happen is if you see other visits that are that are lined up. 76 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:57.839 And I don't believe Trey or has any other visits that he is planning to 77 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.560 take. I mean, if he does, it's not out there. And 78 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.920 you know that's what's happened. I think with each of these commitments, in 79 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:09.000 fact, uh the other you know, one of the one of another example 80 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.399 that you know made me kind of just you know, think that that could 81 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.279 be a way to get a feel for when these things are gonna pop. 82 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.959 Was whenever the young man Nick Boyd from fau who visited and then within you 83 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.560 know, quickly after his visit, you know, there was other another visit 84 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.000 scheduled that was not scheduled when he visited Louisville, which told me, you 85 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:28.720 know, maybe he was going to go to any direction, and he did. 86 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.519 He went to San Diego State. So we'll see. On the Kentucky 87 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.680 side, no clue about any commitments, but they didn't hire a really good 88 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:39.120 assistant coach, a recruiter. For those who who you know, haven't heard 89 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.639 the news. Alvin Brooks the third leaving Baylor to come and coach under Mark 90 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.720 Pope. That's a good get because he has done things that Mark Pope and 91 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.360 the rest of his staff if not done. That's not an insult, that's 92 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.399 just the truth. He has gone into living rooms and been the lead recruiter 93 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.199 for some of the best players in America, let's say America, the best 94 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.199 players in America that have then gone to play for Baylor. So we'll get 95 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:05.360 into all that and a lot more. But where I want to start is 96 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:14.519 Reggie Bush getting his Heisman trophy reinstated. So it was I think this morning 97 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.639 ESPN, I believe had the exclusive here Pete Damil that he's going to be 98 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.199 getting back the two thousand and five Heisman Trophy and it will be a formal 99 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:25.920 reinstatement of the trophy, and it's going to happen today if it hasn't already 100 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.560 happened yet, and says the decision here comes amid what the Heisman Trust calls 101 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.680 quote enormous changes in the college football landscape, which is absolutely true, absolutely 102 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.959 true. So you know, I think it's good that Reggie Bush got his 103 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.040 Heisman Trophy back, but you know, I don't I would. I don't 104 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.600 really mean, it's not something I've given much thought about, Like it's not 105 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.920 keeping me up at night. So this led to a lot of Louisville fans 106 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:54.839 saying, well, hey, this is another sign that Louisville getting their twenty 107 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.240 thirteen National championship banner backup in the Youm Center could be happening. I don't 108 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.360 know, maybe sooner rather than later. And I've always kind of felt a 109 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:09.240 little bit, you know, on the outside with the majority of Louisville fans 110 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:14.160 when it comes to the banner. And what I mean by that is like, 111 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:18.240 I'm not bothered that the twenty thirteen National Championship banner is not hanging up 112 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.639 in the YOUM Center, doesn't. I mean, I think it's a stupid 113 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:26.839 punishment to, you know, insist that something didn't happen when we all know 114 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:31.040 that it did and we all really enjoyed it. So I just it's never 115 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.319 and I know that it happened, right, It's not as if it's been 116 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:38.279 wiped from my brain like they did with that you know, that silver stick 117 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.639 and men in Black, Like I know that it happened. I still have 118 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.160 great I don't even think about that when I think about the twenty thirteen team. 119 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.920 Rarely do I ever think about it at all, and I think more 120 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.600 often. I'm sure a lot of louisvill fans are kind of the same way. 121 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.040 Now. The one thing that really does make me, you know, 122 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.759 like if I do start to feel really bothered, and that's actually a stretch 123 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:01.399 because I don't even think at any point I've ever felt like really bothered. 124 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.560 Again, I'm not happy that it happened, but it's just a stupid punishment 125 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.560 that makes no sense. Now, if you're somebody that hates the fact that 126 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.000 it's not in the UMP Center. The record books don't show it. You 127 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.560 know, everybody has, I guess their own preferences. I mean, that 128 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.399 just doesn't bother me. But when I hear about you know what it's potentially 129 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:22.160 done to the legacy of guys who played on those teams, I mean, 130 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.800 I don't think of them in any way differently than I did in twenty thirteen 131 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:30.519 when they won the championship, and I know that they had no competitive advantage. 132 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:35.080 They did not win the National Championship because of what happened in Minority Hall. 133 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.679 In fact, that hurt them. They did not get any player because 134 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.080 of that. They actually lost a few players because of what was going on. 135 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.440 So I just I've never felt like I could match the level of angst 136 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:52.039 and you know, disappointment, anger, whatever you want to call it, 137 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:54.039 towards the NC Double. Again, they're stupid. It's a dumb punishment. 138 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.960 But as far as like me as a fan, I really don't it doesn't 139 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.799 bother me. I feel better for those guys because again, you know, 140 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:07.960 let's say I don't know, let's say you're Stephen Van Trees or I'm trying 141 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.720 to think of other because you know the other key players, I mean, 142 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.120 I don't you know. Let's just he's Rus Smith for example. Like Russ 143 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.039 Smith's is a businessman. You know, he's got his own bourbon and he's 144 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.799 still playing professionally overseas and he's a very successful professional in a variety of ways. 145 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.000 Let's just say Russ is, you know, chopping it up an initial 146 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.879 business you know, lunch or something with somebody, and you know they're not 147 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.200 as familiar with him as a basketball player. They're more familiar with him as 148 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.120 a businessman. And you know he's telling them about his career and that he 149 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.600 won a national championship. He would be shocked if you know, the person 150 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.000 across from him at this table either says or thinks, oh yeah, that's 151 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.120 the one that doesn't count because there were strippers involved. Like that, People 152 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.399 who aren't as locked into it as we are, they that's what they think 153 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.799 of. Like they think that Louisville, I guess, you know, was 154 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.320 able to have some crazy advantage due to parties that happened over like a four 155 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:13.399 year period or something in the student dorm. And that's ridiculous to even think 156 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.360 about. But people don't even think past what they see in a headline, 157 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.679 and that's what sticks with them because they're not invested. They don't care. 158 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.240 It's like that that bothers me. But you know, those guys seem to 159 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.639 be you know, they know, they know they won the championship, right, 160 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:33.080 they know that they are national champions. So I don't know if this 161 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.639 will lead to Louisville being able to have a better case against the NCUABLEA that 162 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:46.159 look, things have changed and you know, obviously a postseason ban or vacation 163 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.759 of wins I think is now kind of going to be off the table for 164 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.000 the NCUBA moving forward, which would make it to where you could then go 165 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.759 back and say, you know, we cooperated, so why would we not 166 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.320 you know, be able to put up our banner you know, years later 167 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:01.720 may happen. Hope it does. Wouldn't shock me at all, but I 168 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:09.240 still worry a little bit because again, we know it's nonsense that anybody would 169 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.279 claim that their title was one due to any of that stuff. But also, 170 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:16.320 you know, there was some awful things going on. You know, 171 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.639 I always say this, and I've said it for years, there's probably an 172 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.279 ounce of truth to what Katina pal said, but that alone is despicable given 173 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.960 what was going on. You know, a few individuals, as Rick Patino 174 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.720 always would say, you know they you know, they were involved in that, 175 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:39.080 and that's awful. I mean, that sucks. So I wouldn't be 176 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.360 shocked if, like, there are some that, you know, whoever's in 177 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.840 charge, right, whoever's in charge of the NCAA, that could potentially review 178 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.440 this and say, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna let them put the banner 179 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.039 back up. I gotta know who it is. But whoever that person is, 180 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.480 maybe it's multiple people. It wouldn't shock me if they just still know 181 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.840 the nature of what that scandal was and say, yeah, right, you 182 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.919 prostitutes in the dorm rooms, which you know that's technically I guess what was 183 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.399 alleged in Louisville. You know, cooperated and clearly found that some of the 184 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.360 things that she was saying was true. But the one thing that nobody it's 185 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.799 not comfortable to talk about because again it's just gross and awful. But you 186 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:16.960 know, one of the things that I know, and I have no problem 187 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.559 saying, like, there's like those guys who were there, whether it be 188 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:22.879 players or recruits, they just thought they were at a party, like they 189 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.399 didn't have a clue that anybody was paid to be there, which I think 190 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:30.080 makes them like innocent victims, to be honest with you, like if they're 191 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.759 let's say they hooked up with one of Katina's girls, you know, like 192 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.919 I feel like it's a violet, you know. It's just it's it's crazy 193 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.080 to have that happen and not know that like it was arranged via payment. 194 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.440 So anyways, I'm hopeful, just like everybody else, that the banner gets 195 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.679 put back up. But my thoughts as a fan, my feelings, my 196 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:54.159 memories, nothing has ever changed since that happened, and I think everybody's kind 197 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.960 of on the same page. But you know, it's it's ammunition used against 198 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.759 us from the rival and from a lot of other people, and that sucks. 199 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.480 But I just I don't I don't get caught up in that as much. 200 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.679 So I still think one day they'll be able to do it. But 201 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.279 as far as when, I'm not sure. Now Rick Patino a few months 202 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.879 ago, maybe a couple months, I'm not sure when it was he was 203 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.720 on part of My take the most popular podcast in the sports category. I 204 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:24.080 do believe big cat pft. Those guys do a great job, and Rick 205 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.200 was shining. I mean, just the fact that Rick was on that podcast 206 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.240 with those two guys like that, just you'd have told me that five six 207 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.399 years ago. I said, there's not there's no way like that. There's 208 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.399 not a chance in hell that what ever happen. But you know he's changed, 209 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.120 No, he tweets all the time now, you know he's he's become, 210 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.840 you know, a little more relatable than I would have ever expected. 211 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.440 He'll still say things that like, you know, you sit back and say 212 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.639 only Rick Patino would say that, and people just kind of run with it 213 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:52.000 because you know it's Patino being Patino. But he predicted whenever this podcast was, 214 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.480 I believe it might have been in January February, that Reggie Bush would 215 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.639 get his heisman back. And he still believes that Louisville will once again be 216 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.759 able to hold up the twenty thirteen banner. So if you never left Kentucky, 217 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.399 you would never go to Louisville, then you would never be the only 218 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:11.759 coach to get two at different schools. But I know people would be like, 219 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:13.759 oh, it's vacate, it's vacated. You still have the tattoo. 220 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.840 Yeah, we don't count via the tattoo. You didn't get your tax. 221 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.759 That's the greatest hypocrisy of all time. First of all, what went on 222 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.960 it was, I've said it many many times, was reprehensible behavior by a 223 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.679 few people. So the NCAA came and said it was fifty six hundred dollars 224 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.960 in three years period, for four times a year that they did the wrong 225 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.799 thing. It had nothing to do with steroid use. It had nothing to 226 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.120 do with breaking rules to an advantage on the basketball courte. We earned that 227 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.879 championship. You can't take down a championship. You can't change history, whether 228 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.879 it's a wartime, peace time, you can't change history. We won a 229 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:50.799 national championship playing a great game against Michigan Peyton sever Russ Smith, Luke can't 230 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.120 Gorky Jang Mantres harrold see Man. They won it. Kevin Ware broke his 231 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.360 leg. They won the championship, fair and square. Nothing else could get 232 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.360 in a way. Literal lady, the NCAA is gonna get smart and do 233 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.799 two things. Put that championship banter back, and the second thing the heisman 234 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.440 people will do. Give give that Heisman trophy back to Reggie Bush. Yeah, 235 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.840 agreed. So in the end, one of those things has already happened 236 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.840 as of today, and I just don't know, like, do you have 237 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.879 to fight the NC double A like if you are, like if you're heard, 238 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.480 do you have to petition every year? Not sure what the process is, 239 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.559 but I just again I kind of have a little bit of fomo if 240 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.480 you're missing out, Like I just I feel like an outsider because I'm just 241 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:37.759 not as emotionally wrapped up in the banner thing because again, like I know 242 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:41.919 that it happened, and there's no scenario that anything that went, I mean, 243 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.320 it didn't give you an unfair advantage. If you break rules, you 244 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:50.440 should still be punished. And where this just got really really tricky, and 245 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.879 it was very rare compared to most NC DOUBLEA cases. In fact, I 246 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.879 don't think there's been anything like it where this was viewed it as as an 247 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.519 impermissible benefit fit a sex sact, right, rather it be a I don't 248 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:07.279 know, a lap dance or you know, the actual thing whatever that was 249 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:14.720 viewed as impermissible benefits to get players, which again, like I don't want 250 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.279 to go down that path, but like, just think about like who was 251 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:21.559 there, and and like, yeah, let's let's bring this person in. 252 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.879 This will really make them think that, this will really make them think that 253 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.240 this is what Louisville has to offer. Like it was just it was you 254 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.639 know, it was stupid. But either way, the NCAA cannot put a 255 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.960 dollar amount on what those sex sacs are worth, right and in my opinion 256 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.240 personally, I've never experienced those acts with any of those women there, but 257 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.759 I'd say it's not worth much at all, just you know, my opinion. 258 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.720 But because they can't do that, right, it's not like, hey, 259 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.960 this this this handler paid six hundred dollars for a flight for this player. 260 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.240 So that's a six hundred dollars thing. You sit one game, one 261 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.279 half or something. That's how the you know, that's how he usually works 262 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.919 when it comes to impermissible benefits. There's no way to put a dollar amount 263 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.440 on a sex sack there. And again, just the name mature of it 264 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.399 is gross. So they just decided, you know, Louisville, Uh, 265 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.839 we're gonna, we're gonna drop the hammer on you. And you know it 266 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.359 sucked. Louisville was punished in a major way, uh recently, but one 267 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:12.599 of the things that you know, this is and I hate that we're talking 268 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.079 about Louisville basketball. Uh, you know, the history of scandals whenever we've 269 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.559 got some real momentum within the fan base with Jeff bram and by the way, 270 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:23.960 happy birthday to Jeff Bram I love you, uh and and Pat Kelsey 271 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.720 who's injected some life into this fan base in a way that I didn't know 272 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:32.240 was possible considering the last couple of years. So you know, I hate 273 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:33.400 to be bringing up the old stuff that you know kind of put us in 274 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.359 this position, but promise you we'll move on in just a second. But 275 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.160 the whole death penalty that Louisville like kind of got but didn't get right because 276 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.079 of the amount of time they had to wait, Like that had nothing to 277 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.319 do with Katina Powell in the banner. Like you know, I think people 278 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:49.480 know that, but sometimes it just gets it. You know. It feels 279 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.359 like Louisvill's been punished enough. Like when people say that, like what you're 280 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.839 referring to is the Brian Bowen nonsense, not Katina Powell, Like that was 281 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:02.359 already done. You didn't even have a like whenever you got hit with the 282 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:06.119 postseason ban and vacation of wins and you know, records all that kind of 283 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.519 stuff Fatino got. You know, I actually I'm not even really sure what 284 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.880 Patino got, to be honest with you, I don't remember. But you 285 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.319 know when that happened, like it was done the next year, you were 286 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.799 in the tournament, right, So the Bride Bowen thing when it came around, 287 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:19.920 and there was just no update in the entire thing, and it was 288 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.240 just a complete mess because the FBI was involved. Like that's truly what led 289 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:27.440 to Louisville really, in my opinion, getting the death penalty. The Kenny 290 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.559 Paine era was the death penalty. And to be fair to Kenny, like 291 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.640 not all that was his fault. Most of it was as far as it 292 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:34.799 being as bad as it was. But you know, you never end up 293 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:40.720 having to hire Kenny Payne if that thing, meaning that whole case didn't drag 294 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:45.039 on for five years something like that. So you know, I didn't look 295 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.200 at the banner back one day, But you know, I have no bad 296 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.720 thoughts, bad feelings, bad vibes about anything from that championship run because again, 297 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:56.599 like it happened, like I know that it happened, and I enjoyed 298 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:03.079 it, and you know that'll never change. All Right, Let's let's do 299 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.920 this. Let's take a quick break, get our first time out out of 300 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.680 the way, and we'll keep this thing rolling along. We'll talk some derby 301 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.759 stuff on the other side, and I'm not going to embarrass myself anymore than 302 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.200 I usually do on the show, because what I mean though, I'm not 303 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.720 going to talk about actually horse racing and the dirty because I couldn't tell you 304 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.640 a horse in the field, which probably not something I should admit, but 305 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:25.640 you know, I'm honest with you. We'll also talk some nil because it 306 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.240 sounds like the five or two circle they are in fact doing some things to 307 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:33.559 kind of cover themselves when it comes to players showing up, getting paid and 308 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.680 bouncing, which has happened lately and when it and with Reggie Bush getting his 309 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:44.839 Hidsman back, it's led to a really good back and forth on Twitter among 310 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.039 you know, a lot of people, hundreds of people with things that you 311 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.000 know, the to do list, when I think it actually might have been 312 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.119 Big Cat from Barstool to put it out there the updated to do list after 313 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.359 Reggie Bush got his Highsman back, just you know thing like Louisville's titles, 314 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.359 one of them on there, you know, Barry Bond's Hall of Fame, 315 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.920 that kind of stuff. There's a lot of suggestions that like that I agree 316 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.519 with, and some things that I didn't even realize, you know, stupid 317 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.680 punishments that are just you know, we're dumb then and are even dumber now. 318 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.880 So again, we'll be very busy throughout the afternoon, and I hope 319 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:15.000 you guys stick with us right here at is Coffee and Company, and we 320 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:19.759 are feel But Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, So John, 321 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:22.680 I U, I now know the destination of this trip I'm going on 322 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:27.400 next month. Yeah, we are going to go to Treasure Island, Florida, 323 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:32.359 which i'd heard of. It didn't know at all where it was in 324 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.000 the Sunshine State, but it you know, we flying to Tampa that area, 325 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.079 Tampa Saint Pete area, and it's relatively close. I mean it's probably 326 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:41.599 not you know, just a few miles away. But we're going to spend 327 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.279 uh, you know, spend four nights there next month at the end of 328 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.680 May. So you know, I'm excited. I don't It's a trip, 329 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:53.519 you know, maybe thirty six hours ago. I never knew what was going 330 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:56.720 to happen, and now we're going somewhere new and it's exciting. So it 331 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:00.519 so this is close to an area, uh that I've been to before, 332 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.480 that is Madeira Beach, which I was only there for like two days. 333 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.480 It was a bachelor party and it was it was awesome. So I guess, 334 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.559 you know, if the vibes are similar, then I think we should 335 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.119 be, uh, we should be, you know, in good shape. 336 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.519 Do you do you have a regular spot in Florida when you or your family, 337 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.680 you know, you and the wife whenever. When I was younger, 338 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.559 my family actually used to go all the time to Reddington Shores, which is 339 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.480 just north of Madeira Beach. That just sounds nice and fun. Fact that 340 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.680 I didn't do this obviously on purpose at all, but I'm wearing my John's 341 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.799 Pass Madeira Beach shirt today coincidence. That that's just that's vibes align. It 342 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.519 is. That is that's good stuff. And thank you to a couple of 343 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.400 my friends who you know, were listening yesterday and I guess they felt sorry 344 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:42.960 for me for just acting as if I'm not you know, super spontaneous, 345 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.480 which I still don't think that. I am. But I didn't realize, 346 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.119 like, you know, that was a bad thing. You know, I 347 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:49.039 don't. I didn't feel like I was being hard of myself. I was 348 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:56.920 just being honest about myself. But about two years ago it might have been 349 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.759 the same. I think it might have been the same summer. I believe 350 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:06.640 it was the summer of twenty twenty one. I believe I ended up going 351 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:11.119 on two trips to bachelor parties, but I surprised the entire bachelor party group. 352 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:12.160 Have ever told you the story before? No, I don't think so. 353 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.799 So if you're a loyal listener, you may remember this. But when 354 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.880 I say loyal listener, I mean, you know this is from years ago. 355 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.000 But it started with my buddy Brad, who got married and they stayed. 356 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:26.119 I think it was like four days in Madeer Beach, and I'd never 357 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.400 even heard of it. So for the longest time, I just didn't. 358 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:33.640 You know, these things are planned out at times like seven eight months in 359 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.640 advance, which is you know how you should do it right. But I 360 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:40.039 have a hard time committing, not just because of you know, a me 361 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.160 issue, but like for this job, like it's if I'm going to spend 362 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.880 money on a trip like maybe something that comes up to where like it just 363 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.319 doesn't make sense for me to go, and I can't go, so you 364 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.039 know, I try to, you know, book something rather it be eight 365 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:53.319 months out, maybe you know, two three months out, like that's what 366 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.240 I would prefer, especially, you know, depending upon what time of the 367 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.680 year it is. So for the longest time I couldn't go, and then 368 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:02.759 I was able to make it work. So they were there. They've been 369 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.480 there two days, and I drove up to Cincinnati, took a frontier flight 370 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.759 to Tampa, drove there and met him. They were coming up from the 371 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:15.279 beach completely hammered. Uh and and I was walking towards the beach from the 372 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.799 from the airbnb we were staying at, and it was a big surprise they 373 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.799 were you know, it was like that ignited the you know, the rest 374 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:23.400 of the trip because you know, I'd like to think I bring some good 375 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.039 vibes with me, and they didn't expect him, and then boom, there 376 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.480 you go. You get Rick coffee, not Nick coffee, which is the 377 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.000 bachelor party version of me, which it's not just a bachelor party three, 378 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.079 it's thing. It's really just you know, also the old neighborhood version of 379 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:38.400 you. Right, that's right, that's right, debauchery, that's really what 380 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.480 that's that's what fits with that. And then you know, six weeks later, 381 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.279 this one was more planned out. I have a buddy who I grew 382 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:51.799 up with that now lives in Seattle, has lived in LA and he got 383 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.799 married and they did something private, but he wanted to do a Vegas trip 384 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:57.279 with some of his friends from back you know, back here, you know 385 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.880 where we grew up. And three of my buddies ended up being able to 386 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:06.559 make it, and you know I I I couldn't for the longest time. 387 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:07.720 And then finally, you know what, you can get a pretty convenient flight 388 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.279 to Vegas, to be honest with you, even in direct so, my 389 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:14.640 buddy who actually had you know, was having the you know, the It 390 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:15.799 wasn't really a bachelor party. It was more of like a you know, 391 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.519 just a trip for you know us to celebrate the fact that they got married 392 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.720 and we hadn't seen him in years. Again, he lives across the country. 393 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:23.680 Well, he needed to know how many people were going, so I 394 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.559 let him know, like, hey, I'm actually gonna be there, but 395 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.920 I haven't told anybody yet, So let's you know, let's let's let's surprise 396 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.319 him. So he ends up taking him to Fremont Street once they land, 397 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:34.759 and I, you know, end up following behind like you know, twenty 398 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:40.240 minutes later and an uber and they were surprised. And I kind of liked 399 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.519 doing that, Like that could be like my party trick, right, like, 400 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.359 you know, know if people going on some I gotta get invited first 401 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.480 and then turn him down. You know, gonna want to just show up 402 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.799 to places where you know, people didn't want me to be there. But 403 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.480 that that was probably like the most like out of nowhere quick you know, 404 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.160 it really wasn't out of nowhere, but you know it's something that is probably 405 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.759 a little bit outside of you know me, It's not really doesn't fit with 406 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.799 how I typically operate. All right, it is Coffee and Company again. 407 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.759 We are field By Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety and let's just get 408 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:10.200 into the derby stuff here because in trust me, I don't mean like talking 409 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.039 horse racing. Not to say that, you know, that's a terrible thing 410 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.000 to do. It's just not something i've you know, should be doing. 411 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.240 Because I make a fool of myself. So DRB I believe it was did 412 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:26.359 a story yesterday talking to some locals asking about the prices of Derby, and 413 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.599 I didn't realize that, you know, the infield for the Derby, I 414 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.839 mean, is me just double check here? And by the way, infield 415 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.720 is just to get in, right, It's not like you know because now 416 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.720 they have all inclusive, which I think a lot of people know that, 417 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.160 but I'm maybe I'm wrong. So yeah, just to get in the infield, 418 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.039 which is now kind of its own area. You cannot go back and 419 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.880 forth between infield and the rest of the track you like you used to be 420 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.839 able to. So to get in for Oaks infield, I think it's seventy 421 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.720 five Derby is one hundred and thirty dollars just to get in. So if 422 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.599 you do that in the infield, and then you're buying drinks, very expensive 423 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.559 drinks, a lot of them throughout the entire day, food betting of course, 424 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:11.480 Like that's a lot of money. So I think people will still pay 425 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.440 it, right, Like I I wouldn't do it one because I don't have 426 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.000 a whole lot of money. And you know, for me, I'm somebody 427 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.880 that maybe you're like this too, John, I think you're not cheap, 428 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:26.480 but probably wise with your money. If if I know that I've paid something 429 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.319 that I would never typically pay, Like as far as the amount of money 430 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.599 to do something, it's almost just not worth it for me overall, because 431 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.240 I'm just gonna think, like, man, this better really really meet or 432 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.519 probably exceed expectations for me to feel like it was worth it. Yeah, 433 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:44.079 you almost can't even enjoy just the simple basicness of it. Yeah. So 434 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:45.599 look, if you're gonna go, the way to go is to get a 435 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.240 ticket. Now that's a lot more expensive, but again you get all inclusive 436 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:56.000 alcohol, you know, soda, food, I mean, and the food's 437 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.160 not you know it's it's it's good food. You know it's you keep in 438 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.440 mind like it's it's they're buying a ton of stuff in bulk, like it's 439 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.680 it's not like you can just customize a whole lot of stuff. I think 440 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.559 there are some like unique areas where you can get like I don't know, 441 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:14.440 there's a lot of food options so starting I believe in twenty twenty one they 442 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.119 made this change. So again, there are may be people that didn't realize 443 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.880 that. So if you're just thinking like the infield. Well, no, 444 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.200 you can't go to the paddock of that area, which, by the way, 445 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.720 they debuted the new paddock today for the media, which I saw some 446 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.480 of the pictures videos. You know, it looks cool. But here's my 447 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.920 prediction about the paddock, Like people who who you know aren't there regularly or 448 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.200 maybe for the first time, they're gonna say how nice it is and how 449 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.960 awesome it is. And others will say that too, you know, locals 450 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.440 even, but it's just gonna be so much different than what we've all known. 451 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.000 And I actually think post Derby you'll have people saying that the paddock sucks 452 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.839 and doesn't mean that Churchill Downs did something wrong, but that you know, 453 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.640 that's it had been really the same for how long and then they're gonna just 454 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.720 up and change it. So I just think if you're you know, you 455 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:02.359 can enjoy Derby meeting, the Derby season, the day of Derby, like 456 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:07.079 there's so like there cannot be a day in Louisville or maybe Kentucky for that 457 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:08.559 matter. I don't really know. I'm sure you know, the state itself 458 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.119 celebrates it to an extent, but probably not as much as we do because 459 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.279 you know, it's it's in Louisville. But as far as the three hundred 460 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.720 and sixty five days of the year, takeaway Christmas, Thanksgiving, that kind 461 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.480 of stuff. But I would be willing to bet that the households in the 462 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:27.319 Louisville, Kentucky and area, there are more parties that people throw on that 463 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:33.039 day than any other day outside of those major holidays. And there are some 464 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.000 that have been going on for thirty years. So you can not pay for 465 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.119 a ticket to that and still bet and you know, bring your own booze, 466 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.920 do your food, hang out with friends, you know, go inside 467 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.759 and use the you know, don't have to wait line with the restroom probably 468 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:51.160 so I know a lot of people to do that. But here's the thing. 469 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.240 They'll still have a full house on Friday at Oaks. They'll still have 470 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:59.079 a full house on Saturday for the derby, and they'll probably go up each 471 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:00.799 year as far as the price, and there'll be enough people that will pay 472 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:06.920 it and go and and that's just the market right Like they're not gonnak. 473 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.480 They could raise it even more than what it is right now and it's not 474 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.119 going to impact them in a negative way. Some would say maybe it's greed. 475 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:17.000 But you know, I mean if they can, mean, do you 476 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:18.680 think they're just taking advantage of it being one to fifty or do you think 477 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.839 this is really the like every year it's going to get more and more expensive. 478 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.799 That's a great question. I wouldn't think that they would that they would 479 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:33.680 think I wouldn't believe that they would feel justified in an increase just because it's 480 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.960 one fifty and not one forty nine. Like there's nothing. Mean, it's 481 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.079 cool that it's one fifty one hundred and fifty years, but it doesn't change 482 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.519 the experience of the derby. Now, maybe they've got the new Padduck and 483 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.599 that's like something they really you know that they you know clearly they invested a 484 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.920 lot of money in it. So I don't know what the reason would be. 485 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.000 But you know a lot of times over the years, think prices just 486 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.759 go up, right, I mean, that's just uh, you know, 487 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.519 it's just how it how it works right now, and that's really been you 488 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.720 know, cost of living that kind of stuff. It's always gone up. 489 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.519 But I feel like we've we in the last few years, like everything's way 490 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:10.960 more expensive and there's like we had to play I don't want to say, 491 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.400 we but businesses in general felt like they had to play catch up after COVID. 492 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.319 Yeah. Oh, it's kind of the way it's felt. Yeah, 493 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:22.079 and it probably hasn't impacted their you know, their sales. I mean, 494 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.119 I don't know that for sure, but I mean, is there been one 495 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.000 place that you go not like all the time, but you now know, 496 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.759 like in your last I don't know, however, many trips over the last 497 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.680 nine to twelve months. Like it's just way more expensive than it was even 498 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.440 like a few years ago. It's not a specific place, but it's fast 499 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.039 food in general, fast food. In the last three or four years, 500 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.079 I'd say the average meal price has probably gone up four or five dollars. 501 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.559 Yeah. So I don't eat a lot of fast food, and you know, 502 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.039 I only really go to a couple of places. If I'm gonna do 503 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.079 it, I'm a Taco Bell or you know, McDonald's. Guy. There's 504 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.319 other great places too, but I just, you know, I don't usually 505 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.279 eat eat fast food. And when I do, like, you know, 506 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.960 it's that's convenient for me. But man, Taco Bell, which I love 507 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.759 them, and I'm not gonna stop going there. I probably should for a 508 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:14.400 variety of reasons. But it used to be the cheap place for fast food. 509 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:15.920 And maybe maybe that was like before you were old enough to you know, 510 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.279 be spending your own money and getting fast food. But like Taco Bell, 511 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.440 like you could get you could get a lot of stuff and it wouldn't 512 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.480 be nearly as expensive as as another place. Now. I mean when we 513 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.720 go there with my with you know, the four of us, my wife, 514 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.440 myself, and my two children, and my kids don't get meals. 515 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.319 They get like a cheese roll up and in order of like the chips and 516 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:41.200 the cheese. I mean, we're paying like forty dollars, Like it's insane, 517 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.759 and I'm sure every other place is like that, but I just don't 518 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.920 go there. But that's the one that all like I as soon as I 519 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.359 as soon as I pull out for you know, you know, pull up 520 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.279 to the window from the drive through where you order, you know, like 521 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:56.440 it just hits me. Soon as I put in my car and drive to 522 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.799 go, I'm like, damn, what happened? I could have gone to 523 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.400 sit down restaurant in eight for cheaper. I feel like most places used to 524 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.839 have like their signature, like five dollars or six dollars box where it seemed 525 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.119 like it was a lot of food for a good amount of money. That 526 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.519 stuff doesn't exist anymore. Your average meal, at least for me, if 527 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.240 I have to have fast food on a night, just a random night out, 528 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.000 it's nine or ten dollars for one meal. Yeah, that's no joke, 529 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.000 double than what it was. Less get less with it, less with 530 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.680 it? Yeah, well never mind. I was gonna say something else, 531 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.440 but you know, I don't want to. I don't want to get myself 532 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.559 in trouble. So just real quick before we move on from the Derby stuff. 533 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.440 So just so, the cheapest ticket right now at Vivid Seats to get 534 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.039 into Oaks, And again this is with all inclusive. It's two hundred and 535 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.839 thirty seven dollars. Now there's going to be fees added, I'm sure, 536 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.880 and parking, you know, but if you plan on, you know, 537 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.680 drinking some booze, you're gonna be there all day. I mean, I'm 538 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.119 not gonna tell you it's worth it, because that's only something you could determine 539 00:32:53.640 --> 00:33:00.359 as an individual. But that is I think that's a better deal than paying 540 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:06.160 the seventy five bucks for the infield that it only just gets you into the 541 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.319 infield when you just you know, you don't have any shade, like it's 542 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.359 it's just out, you know. I think that's that that would be the 543 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.920 way to go because you got to keep in mind, like if you get 544 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.480 I mean what a beer cost at the Kentucky Derby. I feel like last 545 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.440 year it was like fourteen dollars, So you get two beers, that's thirty 546 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.720 bucks. If you leave a dollar tip each time, like that adds up. 547 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.759 So again, I can't tell you. I'm not gonna tell people how 548 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.920 to spend their money, but if you do plan on going eating, drinking, 549 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.279 you know quite a bit, I think that would be the way to 550 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.839 go rather than the infield. Now, the Derby, the cheapest ticket to 551 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:43.720 get in right now is eight hundred and forty one dollars, So you know 552 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.119 that's much more expensive, but you know people will pay it. Again, 553 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.799 it's going to be packed, it's going to be crowded. But I will 554 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.039 say this, I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago when 555 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.440 Derby came up John and I mentioned that one of the things that I never 556 00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:00.359 get I haven't gotten used to yet, and it's happened every year in it's 557 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.160 probably even more so each year that's passed since I've been working Derby for has 558 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.880 I just assume because it's our event, like that, a massive chunk of 559 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.880 the people there are from here each year that I've gone. Really, since 560 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.360 you know, twenty eighteen, I feel like I've realized that, you know, 561 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.480 the vast majority of people there are not anywhere from here. They're not 562 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.599 from here at all, you know what I mean. And I say that 563 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:23.840 because a lot of the locals have probably decided, you know, I can 564 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.599 enjoy Derby, have a great Derby season, Derby events, the Derby itself 565 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.039 with parties and stuff like, I can have it without going to it, 566 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.679 you know what I mean. I think something people should go to at least 567 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.239 once. But then again, you know, there's a lot of running so 568 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.000 many out of towners because they want to have that experience that they'll only get 569 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.239 maybe once or twice in their life. Yeah, most people who not I 570 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.719 mean, there's no way to know this numbers, you know, for sure. 571 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.960 But you know, when I would find, you know, somebody with 572 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.800 a crazy hat or somebody that really you know, not just dressed nice, 573 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.360 but you know they're kind of a character as far as what they're wearing. 574 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.639 And I talk to them and they're from another city, like it's not their 575 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.679 first, second third, it's like their tenth or twentieth thrty. Like it's 576 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.400 probably not an annual thing for people, but that that is something that you 577 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.280 know, as somebody who I mean, I have no I have nothing to 578 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.119 gain by the derby being popular or not, but it is, you know, 579 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.639 it's what we do. It's it's the big event that you know, 580 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.920 happens every year where there are more eyeballs on this city from across the globe. 581 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.239 And I feel like each year we execute and the people that come here 582 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.639 really love it and they come back. So shout out to Churchill Downs and 583 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.519 guess because of all that said, they can charge whatever they want and people 584 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.960 will probably pay it. All right, let's get to our next break. 585 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.559 What I want to do here. On the other side, there's an update 586 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.239 that kind of just got you know, ignored, I feel like in the 587 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:51.119 portal meaning like now like it became immediate today, something that will you know, 588 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.599 speed up the decisions for some of these guys that are considering transferring. 589 00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.840 And again Tea, you know tall you know, setting up teasing as they 590 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.679 say, like nil, like you know stuff. I don't know how interesting 591 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:09.719 that is to people, but it sounds like the five oo' two circle specifically, 592 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.280 and I'm sure other collectors are doing the same thing across the country. 593 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.920 There's starting to be some protection on their end as far as what they can 594 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.199 do to prevent people from showing up, taking money and leaving. Well, 595 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.320 I guess they can't stop them from leaving, but you know they will be 596 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.760 required to pay it back, which is the way that it should be. 597 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.079 So we'll get to that in a lot more. Keep it rolling along here, 598 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.079 it's coffee and company. We are fueled by Thornton's on at Sports Talk 599 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:36.079 seven ninety. One of the first texts that we got on the text line 600 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.440 today is actually before the show started, somebody asked me if I was going 601 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.159 to sing Happy birthday to Jeff Brom. I won't do that, but you 602 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.679 know I will wish him happy birthday once again anytimes you think I'll say that 603 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.880 during the show today we're now at two, but your happy fifty third birthday 604 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.320 to mister Jeff Brom. All right, let me tell you guys about my 605 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.000 friends at the Louisville Men's Clinic. Had a good call with Brendan, one 606 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.400 of the associates there at the Men's Clinic, and I'm going to be trying 607 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.960 one of their other services coming up here soon. One of their one of 608 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.719 their weight loss therapies. It's more of a program to kind of, you 609 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.239 know, help you manage you know, kind of manage which you eat, 610 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.400 that kind of stuff. But there's different options if you're so if you're looking 611 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.760 to lose weight and you need some assistance. I mean, they've got a 612 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.880 variety of different weight loss they therapy options that you can choose from. But 613 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.320 for me, it was the low T that really got me started with the 614 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:23.880 Men's Clinic. And you know, may not be low T for you. 615 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.679 Maybe it's a rec talvis function and that's uncomfortable, but I don't know why 616 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.440 anybody wouldn't do something about it. And that's something is to go see doctor 617 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.280 Wood at the louis Of Men's Clinic. Louis Men's Clinic. Dot com is 618 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.519 their website. The number is five O two four four four four thousand. 619 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:43.599 They have helped thousands of men here in the Kentucky and area for over ten 620 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:49.199 years and I know many of them, myself included. It's one of those 621 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.480 things where you think, Wow, why didn't I do this sooner? So 622 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.159 better late than ever again louisvill Men's Clinic dot com. You can click make 623 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.559 an appointment on their website or you can give them a call FABO two four 624 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.559 four four four thousand. All right. So, the change here in the 625 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:07.039 transfer portal that I think just kind of it was actually in. It was 626 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:13.440 in last week's NCAA transfer legislation, and it was a significant update to college 627 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.119 basketball and the calendar, but it didn't seem to get really noticed today. 628 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.800 I think it might have been Jeff Borzello of ESPN who really kind of put 629 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.679 this out there and made everybody realize, oh, this is pretty significant. 630 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:29.159 So all transfers need to be put in the portal by May first. The 631 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.199 change here is that that includes a graduate transfer, so you can't sit around 632 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.280 and wait. You have to be in by May first, no matter what 633 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.000 your situation is. There is an exception where you can you can end up 634 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.880 getting a window to hit the portal if your coach leaves. But I think 635 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.519 at this point, as we get till you know, as we get to 636 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.639 the end of April. It's very very rare for someone to be at mean, 637 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.760 I don't think any coaches are going to get let go. I mean, 638 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.559 I'm sure maybe one of the three hundred and sixty something Division one schools 639 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.199 maybe they make a change because you know, but the cycle itself of you 640 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.599 know, coaching changes is over as far as guys either being retained or fired. 641 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:12.920 So the holding out hope that somebody may just you know, be trying 642 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:17.559 to finish up school and then bail because they can because they graduated. That's 643 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.760 over, at least, you know, until maybe somebody hires a lawyer because 644 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:25.840 the NCAA just continues to lose. But I like this rule. I think 645 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.199 you should you know, the fact that they've always taken care of and really 646 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:36.079 you know, rewarded players who graduated and had eligibility left. I mean, 647 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.360 that's how the whole thing started, really and then you know, the grad 648 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:43.519 transfers is when we really started to see at least you know, a handful 649 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.000 of notable players moving on to other schools. And then you know, the 650 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.679 whole thing changed in the last last few years. But last year there were 651 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.519 you know, for example, Bob Huggins got fired because of his DUI thing 652 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.559 that was not I mean, that was a rare exception and that led to 653 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.159 Trey Mitchell being able to hit the portal and he was a big piece for 654 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:04.599 Calipari, especially from you know, veteran, from a veteran standpoint, and 655 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.000 then you had Javon Quinnerly. This is just this is an example that I 656 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.280 that I mentioned from time to time because this is just some shady stuff. 657 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.719 But again it's another example of the players having every bit of the power and 658 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.159 using it to their advantage. And I guess you know, you can't be 659 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:20.920 mad at them, be mad at the system. Well, the system has 660 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.639 changed because there were guys who were going through everything throughout the off season. 661 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.599 Right we're talking you know, spring, they're still on campus, they're working 662 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.960 out, trying to get better, probably making an I own money. And 663 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.519 in the summer, you know, a lot of these schools will go on 664 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.280 a summer trip. Right every three to four years, you're allowed to take 665 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.519 a trip abroad where you have you know, some games, and you know 666 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.159 you Quitterally is the one guy that I remember there being a lot of outrage 667 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:50.440 from like college basketball writers because he never had indicated at any point that he 668 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.400 was looking to leave, but he knew deep down that through summer school he 669 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.639 was going to graduate. So Natoates, by the way, still ended up 670 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.599 making a final four despite losing this guy, he ended up going to Pimp 671 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.639 to Memphis to play for Penny Hardaway. But you know, that's a guy 672 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.519 that just knew. Hey, I'm not going to tell anybody, you know, 673 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.039 because you know who knows. Maybe I'll change my mind. But also 674 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.000 if I tell him, then it'll be very uncomfortable, you know, a 675 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.360 few months, and I still want to take advantage of you know, Nil 676 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.559 and this in the facilities and all that kind of stuff. Well then as 677 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.280 soon as you know, he got closer to actually graduating finishing summer school, 678 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.440 he hit the portal. And he's not the only one, but he was 679 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:25.400 a notable player. And that that I mean, I don't and I think 680 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.079 again, guys who graduate should be rewarded, but they should also have to 681 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.079 hit the portal like one year or the same day that everybody else does. 682 00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.000 So like, for example, there's a guy I can't think of his last 683 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.199 name, but a guy that's apparently going to transfer, well he's transferring from 684 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.360 well, actually I don't know. He just make sure I get this correct 685 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.280 because one of the players for Mark Pope, who was I believe his best 686 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.159 I don't know if he's his best player, but he's his best NBA prospect. 687 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:58.039 He is Jackson something. Is that ringing a bell at all? I 688 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.559 mean, I'm looking at the authority for Kentucky, you know, Kentucky Sports 689 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.199 Here at Kentucky's sports radio. I don't see anything about it. But there's 690 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.320 a guy named Jackson. I think Jackson Robinson. Yeah, that sounds right 691 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:13.679 with an X. Yes, okay, yeah, So he's apparently gonna go 692 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:19.440 pro and you know he's not looked at to be a really highly regarded prospect. 693 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.960 So I think Kentucky fans just assume, well, he's gonna graduate, 694 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.760 so he doesn't have to hit the window here. He can go through the 695 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:28.400 process and then just decide, you know, to pull out for the draft 696 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.679 like the end of May, and then he'll be ready to go for Kentucky. 697 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.440 Well, now you know, he has to enter the portal. So 698 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.280 if he doesn't enter the portal by May first, which I don't know why, 699 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.519 it wouldn't just leave your options open. But if he doesn't, that 700 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.639 means he's not he's either going to stay at BYU for that last year or 701 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.320 however many years he has left, or he's not considering college and he's all 702 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.079 in on the NBA. Which I don't know much about this guy, but 703 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:57.079 I think there'll be a lot of players that see themselves kind of maybe as 704 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.320 like an early to mid second round at best. But this draft is believed 705 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.599 to be the weakest draft in the history of the NBA, so it could 706 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.039 lead to some guys really improving their stock when they go through the process and 707 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.239 just deciding, Look, you know, there's no scenario I would ever be, 708 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.480 you know, picked in the twenties of a draft. But you know 709 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:20.440 what, this draft is weak as hell, and I'm gonna take advantage because 710 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.840 I think my agent has told me that I'm going to be in that spot 711 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.320 and that's life changing money. I mean, there will be people, and 712 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.880 again it's probably an exaggeration. You never know what to believe when people are 713 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.679 talking about the draft because they stand nothing to benefit by telling anybody about what 714 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.760 they think about players any of that stuff. It's all agent driven. But 715 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.679 you know, when it comes to the you know, this field, apparently 716 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.119 there's dudes that will get drafted maybe at the end of the first round, 717 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.159 that wouldn't be drafted at all in most drafts, in the two rounds, 718 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.079 just because of how weak this draft is. So again it sounds like exaggeration, 719 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.960 but who knows. All right, quick break, we'll come back, 720 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.880 keep it rolling along. 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