WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.439 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to 2 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:40.960 nine day, now Here's Nick Coffee. I've mentioned it for the last couple 3 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.799 of weeks. I can't relate. I can't match any level of excitement and 4 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.920 anticipation for this new EA Sports college football game that's returning. But clearly I 5 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:55.520 can tell that it is a big deal to a lot of people, and 6 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.119 I get it the nostalgia, especially if you're someone that really only played video 7 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.239 games that were sports games, because you know, Madden's still a thing, 8 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.079 and I'm sure every like is FIFA is still around, John, Sure it 9 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.680 is. You've got two K, which you know that's a that's a big 10 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.200 deal. What's the Could I take a guess at what the baseball game is 11 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.799 called? Sure the show? It is? Okay? Is that an EA 12 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.439 Sports to you? I believe it is. So you know, I'm sure 13 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:23.519 those are still the thing, but you've you've had those for a while. 14 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:30.200 This went away unexpectedly because of a lawsuit, and uh now it's coming back, 15 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.239 and everybody's excited and good for them. But a couple of things I've 16 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.959 seen just today that that really, you know, really point out how popular 17 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.079 it is and how excited everyone is. Kenny Dillingham, who by the way, 18 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:46.799 is the youngest Power five coach in college football. Uh, he did 19 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:52.040 something that was was was kind of mean, but he he had a plank 20 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:57.120 contest for a copy of the EA Sports College Football twenty five with his team 21 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:04.159 and you know, it lasted forever until you know, who couldn't who was 22 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.960 the last person left that could still hold the plank? And uh, it 23 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.879 ended up being a big hoax, like there was not a game like the 24 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.439 that's rough. The case was like, you know, made and it looked 25 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.039 like it was real. It was a case. I think I can't. 26 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:21.159 I'm not. I didn't listen to the whole video, but it looks as 27 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.759 if he's holding it up as if like they sent us a copy and it's 28 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:28.159 got Arizona State on the cover, like each program is getting the copy. 29 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.479 I'm gonna give it to whoever can plank the longest. And you know it 30 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.639 didn't. It didn't trick though. Yeah let me this, let me play 31 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.599 this for you. I had a coach on our staff say we should playing 32 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.360 a practical joke on our guys, and I said, okay, let's do 33 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.599 it. Yeah, we got the idea, we went to our graphics team. 34 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.879 They did it. And then I'm like, all right, I want 35 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.960 to do something that is not going to affect workouts that you know, guys 36 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.560 could compete in, but they could drop out if didn't want it, But 37 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:57.719 all right, planks Like whatever, whoever you want to compete for it longest 38 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.240 plank, it's good for you can't do enough planks. So I'm like, 39 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.599 all right, we're gonna plank and uh, you know, it was seven 40 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.000 minutes of pure comedy. Guys fired up, and then when they opened the 41 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.280 box, it was just hilarious. And I think that's just the relationship and 42 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:16.120 the culture that we have is we can do that stuff. My wife was 43 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.199 like, I don't know if you should play jokes like that, and I'm 44 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.039 like, you know what if people are that sensitive, And then I'm sorry 45 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:29.719 because it was a joke that our players loved that they'll remember forever, and 46 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.960 it's a story they'll tell the rest of their lives. So I don't know 47 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:37.120 if it's about being sensitive. I think more than anything, it's it's that 48 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.159 like they that's a that's a really important thing to these guys. Clearly the 49 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:44.479 video game, which I would have had like a gift card or something in 50 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.199 there as a consolation. And if anything, you proved like if you won, 51 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.479 you proved to be the you know, the who can plank the longest. 52 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.159 And you also maybe kind of told them yourself, like if it was 53 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.840 somebody who like usually doesn't you know, really stand out in those kind of 54 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.919 things, but he did in that situation. You know, you you did 55 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.199 show out, but you also might have like made your coaches realize, hey, 56 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.800 you can do a little more than you've been doing. All right, 57 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.800 let's see here the uh. The other one I saw was a high school 58 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.520 coach here in the in the area. Uh. He had a he had 59 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:20.079 a player of his put together a video presentation explaining why when the game is 60 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:25.600 released, they should have the day off for practice to play the game because 61 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:30.759 it could be educational, uh and help them as football players with things that 62 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.439 the game offers, which I think he's I think I saw that he gave 63 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.079 him, you know, an eight plus for effort. But you know, 64 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.160 they got a lot of work to do and they're not taking the day off. 65 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.600 So hey, I wouldn't call it fomo. It's just you know it 66 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:46.279 I like to be excited about stuff too, and I can tell you I'm 67 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.519 not sure if there's anything that's on the horizon, uh that that it's about, 68 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.959 that that's about to be released, video game, movie, music, 69 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.199 whatever it may be that you know that that I can that I can be 70 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.720 that excited about. So anyways, all right, uh it Coffee and Company. 71 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.199 We are feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven nine. You appreciate 72 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.279 you hanging out with us. We're taking you up till six o'clock and you 73 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.560 set for the weekend. If your weekend has already started, you know, 74 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.600 shout out to you. If not, then you know, hopefully we can. 75 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.720 You know, we get out of here at six o'clock, and I 76 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.519 imagine a lot of you will be getting the weekend started from now until then, 77 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.680 maybe right then, maybe later. Either way, just hang out. 78 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.680 We'll have some fun, and we try to do that every single day. 79 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:28.120 All right. So this is one of those college basketball report graphics that I 80 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.199 do find myself, you know, bringing up on the show pretty regularly, 81 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.639 and it's good research that is done. But I sometimes wonder did anybody fact 82 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.040 check it. It's just a graphic that somebody put together. It looks pretty 83 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.160 good, but like, there's no there's no reference as far as where the 84 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:47.639 information is coming from. And there's also you know, not anybody that I 85 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.240 know of it is actually going to fact check to see if all this is 86 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:57.000 like legit. But it's the highest all time win percentages from Division one college 87 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:01.360 basketball programs, and it's not a surprise to see who's at the top. 88 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:06.639 Kentucky has the highest win percentage all time, it's seventy six. Coming in 89 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:12.399 at number two is North Carolina It's seventy three point four, Kansas Is its 90 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:16.519 seventy two point nine, Duke Is its seventy one point two. I could 91 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:21.399 give you from now until the end of the year to guess who's number five, 92 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.800 and you probably wouldn't get it unless you're a fan of this team, 93 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:31.680 or unless you know you just happen to be the college basketball statistical guru. 94 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:40.959 It is where a former coach of Louisville currently coaches Charleston. The kicker here 95 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.240 is that they were not always Division one. Since they've been Division one, 96 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.000 they have won sixty nine percent of their games, which is impressive. I 97 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.800 don't really know when it was they went D one, but since they've been 98 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:56.959 D one, they've been very good, and it's been a place where I'm 99 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.920 pretty sure every coach that's been there in the D one ranks. I mean, 100 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:01.480 let me look it up here. I mean, obviously that's where Chris 101 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.800 Mack is now, and that's where Pat Kelsey just came from. But you 102 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.360 know, every coach that's been there's probably been able to turn that into a 103 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.279 pretty good gig. I mean, was it Bobby Kremens who was there long 104 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.720 ago? Louisville played them, and I think they played them at Charleston when 105 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:25.000 Rick was here, like in two thousand and twelve thirteen during that era, 106 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:28.759 and you know, it was a tough game. I think they came here 107 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:32.319 and nearly beat us once. But their coaches, let's see here they've had 108 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:38.360 well it's not showing me their list of coaches here, but because now, 109 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:44.959 yeah, so here here are their eras. So they let's see in nineteen 110 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.720 eighty three they were in AI. It was a long time ago, and 111 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.079 it looks like in for some reason, it's not you would think that, 112 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:56.120 you know, this would explain when they became Division one, because that's a 113 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.079 huge deal for a program when they make that jump. Yeah, they became 114 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.879 a Division one school in nineteen ninety one, So John Cress I think I'm 115 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.240 saying that correctly. He was their first coach. He was there for quite 116 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:11.600 some time, and you know, they won the a Son many many years. 117 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.199 But Bobby Krimin Tom Harrison took over and it looks as if he was 118 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.720 look well, actually know he was eighty and thirty eight, so he won 119 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.079 there. And then Bobby Crimins took over towards the end of his career. 120 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.959 Following his run at Georgia Tech, I think he retired for actually no, 121 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:30.639 he went straight from Georgia Tech to Charleston and obviously he had success there one 122 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:35.360 hundred and twenty five and sixty eight. And then Doug Wochik was a coach 123 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.480 there for two years. I guess we can throw him in as the guy 124 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.240 who did not succeed there. He only won thirty He went thirty eight and 125 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.840 twenty nine, which is a winning record, but a far fall from where 126 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.919 they once were. Earl Grant he was there for quite some time, turned 127 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.120 that into a new job. And then obviously Pat Kelsey was there for looks 128 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.879 like four years and has success. And now Chris Max there. So you 129 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.639 know, they've been successful at every level they've been. But since Division one 130 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.000 they've won sixty nine percent of their games, and that's since nineteen ninety one, 131 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.679 so low key, I mean, this is it's not crazy to say. 132 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.000 Again, we're not saying because when you consider the most accomplished, the 133 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.240 most successful, the best, we're talking final fours and championships. That's not 134 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.600 realistic for Charleston. I mean, maybe one day that happens. We've seen 135 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.480 Sister Gene roller ass all the way to the Final four, like it can 136 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.519 happen, but you know, it's just not realistic. But when it comes 137 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.799 to just winning and competing at your level, they are one of the most 138 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.200 winningest programs in division and basketball, which I would have never guessed that. 139 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.240 I mean, I would have never said it was a bad job, but 140 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.240 I didn't realize they've won sixty nine percent of their games since you know, 141 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.840 since then, since they've been D one. The rest of the list here, 142 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.440 you've got UCLA at six, UNLV, Syracuse, North Dakota State. 143 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.840 They've got to be another school that is in by the fact that you know, 144 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.240 since they've been D one, they've been the low level and they didn't 145 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:56.679 have a tough time transitioning from D two or whatever it was to low, 146 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.960 low level D one. Memphis is at number ten. I would not get 147 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.720 that. But then again, let's keep in mind Memphis has benefited in the 148 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:07.480 last at least ten years, maybe even fifteen years because they were never able 149 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.480 to jump to a bigger league like Memphis Basketball. Of course, they were 150 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.480 really good in the Metro. They have a lot of tradition Cal when he 151 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.159 was there, and when Cal took Memphis to the final four in the National 152 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:24.000 Championship game. What conference was that? Was that? Conference USA? I 153 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:33.200 feel like it was because the American formed And yeah, so Memphis is always 154 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.039 I feel like since the Metro when they were competing against and by the way, 155 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.080 you know, I wasn't alive and certainly not old enough to remember a 156 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.159 lot of the the big moments in the big days of the Metro, but 157 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:46.559 I know all about it at the time. That was a competitive league. 158 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.039 But a lot of the other members of that league since moved on to bigger 159 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.759 conferences and have since jumped to multiple conferences level being one of them. Memphis 160 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:56.919 never really did that. They never really had the chance to do that, 161 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.759 so it's not a shot at Memphis. They do win, they've never had 162 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.279 to compete in a really good league. So we're not going to go through 163 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.360 the rest of the top twenty five here, but I will mention some other 164 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.279 local teams. Western Kentucky not a surprise there at number it looks to be 165 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:16.759 number fifteen. It's sixty five point eight percent, which Western's always been successful. 166 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.720 They've had some down years. They missed the tournament for a long stretch 167 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:26.000 there until just recently when they got in in their first year with their new 168 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.759 head coach who was there one year and then took the job it was at 169 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.080 Oklahoma State. I think it was. Yes, So Western's a good job. 170 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:37.360 Man Like Western to me is like if you're gonna be coaching at that 171 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.919 level, if you're taking a step down as a coach, or if you 172 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.840 are, you know, making a jump up from like low low level D 173 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.840 one, like Western's a dream job because you can win there. It's been 174 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.679 proven, they have history, they have support. I mean, I don't 175 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.159 think it was ever the way they wanted to go about it, but I 176 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.279 always thought Tom Crean should have landed at Western at some point. But I 177 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.559 think it's been quite clear that they don't. They never wanted to really go 178 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.720 that because we're here's what works for Western. It's not retread. It's not 179 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.240 going to get a coach who's been successful elsewhere. In fact, the one 180 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.080 time they did that was very underwhelming. Rick Stansbury brought a lot of talent 181 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.519 to what to Western Kentucky, a lot of talent. There were some Western 182 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.519 teams that Stansbury had that I would put above multiple in fact, nearly half 183 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.039 of like the acc at times. I mean, they had Charles Bassie who 184 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.120 was really really good, you know, tavy On Hollingsworth was was an absolute 185 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.720 stud. Like Western had some dudes with Stansbury, but they never broke through 186 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.600 and won the tournament. They were always underwhelming. So I think that's probably 187 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:33.559 a sign for them that hey, we're not going to go that path. 188 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.919 We're going to actually go and continue to hire up and coming coaches and let 189 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.879 them really break through here and if we got to go, if they leave 190 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:45.440 us elsewhere, we'll go do it again. But Louisville is not in the 191 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:50.039 top fifteen. They do fall at number eighteen, and it's at sixty five 192 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.480 point three percent, and that's you know, that's not really a surprise in 193 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.639 the grand scheme of things. But there's a couple of ways to look at 194 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:09.360 this one, and I'll start with positive. You're still at that spot sixty 195 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:15.960 five percent point sixty five point three percent winning percentage all time D one, 196 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.799 and you had these last three years counting against you. I mean, Louisville 197 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.240 in the last three years collectively, they have won twenty five percent of their 198 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:31.799 games. I mean they won I think it was let's see here in twenty 199 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.519 this past season, they won twenty five percent of their games. The year 200 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.679 before that, they won twelve percent of their games. The year before that, 201 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.440 Max last year where he left and then Pegist took over, they won 202 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.320 forty percent of their games. So you know that's that's roughly twenty five percent 203 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.759 in the last three years, and yet you still can crack the top twenty 204 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.720 like that. That speaks to that you have always held your weight and been 205 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.600 a very accomplished program throughout, like even in years like That's what's that's what 206 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.000 really really stood out to me in the last three seasons, among many other 207 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.480 things, we would have years where we would make the tournament and call it 208 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.720 a bad year. Because we got in as an eight seat. We call 209 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.200 that a bad year. And honestly, I don't want to change expectations. 210 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.159 I don't want to act like that's a good year for the Louisville Standard, 211 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:18.399 but like we experienced what truly a bad, bad season was in a way 212 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:24.440 we never thought possible for Louisville. So, you know, if Pat Kelsey 213 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.879 is half the coach I believe he is, Louisville will be fine. Now 214 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.200 will they be making Final four? Is? That remains to be seen. 215 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.399 That's where he's really gonna have to show what he can do at this level. 216 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.000 But he's got resources here, He's got things in place at a program 217 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:46.799 of this caliber to where it ain't gonna be nothing like what we saw in 218 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.240 the last few years. Now, again, if he's just you know, 219 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.960 a lot better than Kenny Payne in the end of the mac Era, yet 220 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.000 Louisville is still you know, barely getting to the tournament. That's still not 221 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.840 good enough. Because Louisville, oh, they can be better, but man, 222 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.000 we were awful the last few years. And what's so crazy? And 223 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.679 here this is where it kicks in and I kind of have a tough time, 224 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.879 you know, I have a tough time, you know, balancing the 225 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.120 Uh. I don't want to go down that path because nobody wants that anymore. 226 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.879 But sometimes I can help myself. But like Louisville went four in twenty 227 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.200 eight and eight and twenty four with talented players, like not to the level 228 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.799 of like winning championships, but like there are teams that Louisville had that went 229 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:35.600 you know, eighteen and twelve that did not have the caliber talent that those 230 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:41.759 last two teams had. But anyways, not trying to pick on Indiana, 231 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.200 how are they not on this list? How high does it go to? 232 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.840 Thirty? Yeah, that's surprising. I mean, they had the terrible couple 233 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.840 of years under the first under Tom Crean that I'm obviously aware of, but 234 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.200 I don't really know. I mean, you have five national titles, most 235 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.720 of them in the seventies and eighties, but that surprises me. Yeah, 236 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.519 I mean, maybe they've just i mean I'm looking here, just going through 237 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:07.200 the Basketball Reference of their seasons. I mean yeah, I mean, especially 238 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.919 when you have Bob Knight, who's one of the winningst head coaches of all 239 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.960 time, that surprises me. Yeah, I mean, I mean, going 240 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:21.039 back to the last so the last ten seasons they've only had it looks like 241 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.879 three seasons where they won more than sixty percent of their games. So I 242 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.159 mean that's a decade to where, you know, yeah, that's a long 243 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.320 time eighteen sixteen, sixteen, fifteen, nineteen and sixteen twenty and twelve, 244 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.960 twelve and fifteen. So I mean, honestly, the end of Cream was 245 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.240 just inconsistent. Yeah, and then Archie was bad. I mean, that's 246 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.639 there's no way around it. And Crean was there a long time man, 247 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.399 ten years, right, Yeah, and then Mike Davis. I mean, 248 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.759 gosh, I didn't realize Mike Davis coach there that long. Yeah, I 249 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:55.120 mean, he obviously had a phenomenal first season, and uh he just wrote 250 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.519 off the coattails of Biden Knights players. Yeah. So I don't know. 251 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:02.600 And again, Indian has been Division one. It looks like, I mean, 252 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:04.240 I think it's probably pretty tough to. I don't know. I was 253 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:07.920 gonna say it's tough to when you have that many seasons and you know there's 254 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.079 gonna be some in there from like the fifties that you know you would never 255 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.920 know about, but hey, they're factoring in that too. But when I 256 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.400 see schools like Illinois in there, like that surprises me that Indiana wouldn't be 257 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.200 and Cincinnati. And then there's other schools again, like there's a handful of 258 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.880 schools sprinkled in here. We talked about Charleston and Memphis, but like North 259 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:32.960 Dakota State, same thing. South Dakota State's in here, Belmont, Grand 260 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.799 Canyon VCU. I mean those are quite literally schools that are there because they've 261 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.440 not been d one that long, and they've been pretty good. But they 262 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.039 win a lot of games because they play a lot of bumps. Like that's 263 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.400 just you know, that's how it breaks down. But here's what's crazy. 264 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:53.039 If you looked up Indiana's all time winning percentage and it was good enough to 265 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.359 be in the middle of this, I wouldn't be surprised. But again is 266 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.880 why I always feel like conflicted about even referencing these graphics that are made on 267 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.240 Twitter that everybody shares, everybody reacts to, but like nobody knows if it's 268 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.200 if it's legit or not. So all right, let's get to a quick 269 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.400 break. We'll come back on the other side. Keep the party going along. 270 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.759 It is a Friday, It's coffee and company, and we are feel 271 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:18.880 about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety listen to this that what are 272 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.319 the lyrics of? This? Is this chumble womba? It is what's the 273 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.720 name? What's the song called? Tub thumping? Tub thumping? It is 274 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:32.400 one word? All right, because I'm pretty sure let's see here, piss 275 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:33.480 in the night away, right, is what you're referring to? Is that 276 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.079 what it says? I think that's what they're doing. I mean, I 277 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.039 feel like it's always been believed to be kissing the night away, but it's 278 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.720 pissing. Yeah, it's pissing the night away. Okay, like actually yeah, 279 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.440 pissing the night away. Like I remember as a kid thinking like can 280 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.880 they say that? Are they like? Is that like that? Isn't that 281 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.799 a cuss word? But it's not even radio edited like it's I mean, 282 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.160 and this is the radio edit version. There you go? Yeah? Are 283 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.160 they one hit wonder? Yeah? Couldn't tell you another song of there? 284 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.160 Man? You were you were bringing the hits from? Uh, they're all 285 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.200 late nineties, aren't like? Oh this is ninety seven again ninety seven? 286 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.519 Once again, it's been ninety seven. It has been the era today, 287 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.079 which I like it, which are so all the songs you played you are 288 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.960 familiar with? Yes, so that like, honestly, I would say eighty 289 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.839 eight was when I was I'm not familiar with eighty eight songs the way you 290 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:25.000 would be ninety seven. I don't know if that speaks, And I think 291 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:26.319 that more so speaks to just the fact that you are more you know, 292 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.359 into music than I am. Or maybe just ninety seven was a better year 293 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.319 of music. It probably was, like I don't even know what was a 294 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:34.960 big song in nineteen ninety eight, like one thing and one fun fact. 295 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.960 I know the number one song in America the day that I was born was 296 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:44.640 Mo Money More Problems by Notorious Big. That fits because you, that's just 297 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.000 you, like you are a very I mean when I think of Notories Big, 298 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.759 I think of the company man John Alboy. So in nineteen eighty eight, 299 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:59.440 that's the year I was born. In July nineteen eighty eight, the 300 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:04.880 number one song was the Flame by Cheap Trick. I know, cheap Trick, 301 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.519 Yeah, I know cheap Trick. I don't know the Flame. Pebbles 302 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:11.559 had a song called Mercedes Boy, Oh Poor some sugar on Me. That's 303 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:18.240 like me, that's that's yeah, Dirty Diana by Michael Jackson, Poison, 304 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.640 Nothing but a Good Time, that's a good one. I would say of 305 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:23.640 these songs, this was the top that I'm looking at the top ten when 306 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.720 I was born, and I would say that, like, the most notable 307 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.400 song has got to be Poor Some Sugar on Me, followed by Nothing but 308 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.000 a Good Time. Yeah, those are big hits. And then there's also 309 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.440 some songs here that I feel like if I heard them, I would know, 310 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.720 but just boy title I don't recognize, like Richard Marx hold Onto the 311 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.240 Nights. I feel like I would probably know that if I heard it. 312 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.240 Maybe I'm crazy, but yeah, i'd say you're more. I mean, 313 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:53.519 honestly, regardless of just memory or being into music, I think ninety seven 314 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:56.039 was a better year. But you know, maybe I'm biased because that's like 315 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.119 around the time when I was, you know, knowing, like what I 316 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.519 mean, not to say I was musically inclined as a nine year old in 317 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.400 nineteen ninety seven, but you know it's fair. I love nineties and early 318 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.079 two thousands. Oh yeah, But I do feel like though for me, 319 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.599 whenever I kind of get lost in that nostalgia, I feel like the stereotype 320 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.720 fits that a lot of people just feel like their era when they were get 321 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.039 like their era was better, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, 322 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.359 I don't think I would say that. So for me, I guess 323 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.240 that would be the late two thousands into the twenty tens. I don't know 324 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.680 that I would personally say that that's the best era of music just for me 325 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.640 though, But again, I'm somebody who you know, I dive into all 326 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.319 sorts of eras of music from time to time. Yeah, and I've always 327 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.559 really not I mean, since I've been an adult, I don't often seek 328 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:42.400 it out, but I've found myself really liking music made long before I was 329 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.720 even born or thought of. Like, I mean, there's there's like not 330 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.279 that I ever go there, but like there's music from like the fifties that 331 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.799 I'm like, man, this is good stuff, like this is creative, 332 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:56.039 like this is this is just different. So yeah, shout out to ninety 333 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.839 seven. Ninety seven was a good year. We got the company man John 334 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:03.599 All the third right, correct, that's right, So good stuff and good 335 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.599 music too. All right. So the new NBA deal has been a big 336 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.599 story this week. When I see the new NBA deal, I mean the 337 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:14.680 new NBA media rights deal, and it I mean the amount of money it's 338 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.039 I mean, we're talking five hundred plus billion. I think it is. 339 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.440 I mean a lot of money, and it did essentially. Yeah, it's 340 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:30.079 let's see here, it's seventy six billion over eleven years. And where did 341 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.799 I see. I thought I saw something that was in closer to maybe it 342 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:40.200 is it seventy six billion over that time or is it seventy six billion annually? 343 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.160 Maybe I got caught up in the fake news stuff because I thought that 344 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.279 I'd saw a much bigger number. But either way, you know, it's 345 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:51.319 a lot of money, and it really is going to change how we consume 346 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:55.920 the NBA content. And I don't consume a lot of it, and I 347 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.039 know a lot of you don't either, But this is just this is what 348 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.920 the NBA did here is they've kind of changed the game a little bit as 349 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.759 far as being the first major net major league, like major professional sports league, 350 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.200 to make it to where if you do find yourself really wanting to consume 351 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.319 the product and you want to as much as it's gonna be available you want 352 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.079 to watch it, you have to have streaming services, You have to like 353 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.839 there's no way around it. Like the NFL, you can still get heavily 354 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:27.839 involved in the NFL without having Peacock or Amazon. You might you're gonna miss 355 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:30.519 the Thursday night game. You're gonna miss maybe a Sunday night game. But 356 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:36.359 like every week, you're gonna get three games to choose from just by having 357 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:40.319 standard television. And I don't mean like non HD, I just mean like 358 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:45.559 CBS, Fox. They're gonna have NFL games, right, and it may 359 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.759 not be the game you want to watch, but you will have the ability 360 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.079 to spend all day watching. I mean, heck, if you look at 361 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.799 it from from Sunday, you'll have all day. You'll have the game at 362 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.279 one, whatever's on in your market, you'll have the game at four thirty. 363 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.480 Was that whatever's on in your market, you're gonna you're gonna Sunday Night 364 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.079 football that's on NBC. Well, the NBA, I mean, they're gonna 365 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.720 have games that are gonna be on you know, NBC, ESPN, that 366 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.319 kind of stuff, ABC, But they're also gonna have games where you're gonna 367 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.119 have to stream. So, starting not this upcoming season, but the twenty 368 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:17.359 twenty five to twenty six season, the NBA is going to feature nationally televised 369 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:21.359 games seven days a week once the NFL season concludes. And you know what 370 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.319 that does. That tells you they know where they stand, and everybody does. 371 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:30.920 But trying to compete against the NFL is just foolish and nobody would ever 372 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.440 do it, including the NBA. So on Monday, you'll have a game 373 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.200 that's on Peacock. You will have to have Peacock on Tuesday, NBC, 374 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:44.279 Wednesday, ESPN, Thursday, Amazon, Friday, ESPN and Amazon, Saturday, 375 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.160 ESPN and Amazon. So I guess that's given you the option to watch 376 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.000 it on both and then on Sunday you will be able to watch it on 377 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.039 NBC and ESPN. So I've seen a lot of uproar about this just because 378 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:57.640 you know the NBA. I mean, I'll go to Charles Barkley's comments because 379 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:03.519 he I think, I think is being genuine when he says this, and 380 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.920 I'll read the quote here. It says and this is from NBA centralists, 381 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.960 as Charles Barkley calls out the NBA for not caring about its fans quote, 382 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.400 they don't really care about anything but how to make the most money possible. 383 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:17.200 We should never put money above the regular fan. Everybody can't afford streaming. 384 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.799 There's nothing wrong with streaming, but when you start just going to the highest 385 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:26.119 bidder and you're not on the regular television, I think you've done a disservice 386 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.960 to the fan. So you know, there's a lot of people having Chucks 387 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.640 back because you know, Chuck's Chuck. But also you have to keep in 388 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:40.640 mind Chuck is negatively impacted by this. Not I mean he's gonna be fine. 389 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:41.079 I mean, he can do whatever he wants. I don't believe he's 390 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.599 gonna retire. I think he's gonna end up being a guy that'll do something 391 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.680 in television, and he'll probably sign a deal that will be the highest paid 392 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.240 deal for anybody that has ever been. I mean, I'm not even sure 393 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:52.440 what he's gonna do, because Chuck can do stuff. It's not just sports, 394 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.880 not just basketball. I don't know if he's gonna want to, but 395 00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:00.519 he'll he'll land somewhere because he has it in his clause that TNT he can 396 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.880 get out of his deal if they don't have the NBA, and sure enough 397 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.160 they don't have the NBA. They lost it. So you know, I 398 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.519 think some of what he is saying as far as where it's coming from is 399 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.079 based off that, and I don't I don't blame him, like you know, 400 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.680 I mean he in the NBA here, here's what I'd say, is 401 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.799 just a fan myself, not somebody that's making a gazillion dollars like Charles Barkley. 402 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:27.000 The NBA is dumb by basically disassociating, disassociating themselves from the most followed 403 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:33.240 and entertaining crew that covers their product inside the NBA is not something that can 404 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.440 be recreated elsewhere on any other market and any other network with any other sport, 405 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.000 right, Like, it's it's that popular, it's that good, and 406 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:47.519 obviously the it's business, right, it's it's it's about money and it's about 407 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:52.720 partnerships. But like you have now taken away an element that helps the NBA 408 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.640 in my opinion, I mean, I'll tell you this, I'm not I'm 409 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.160 not. I'm not gonna listen and watch no offense to these people. I 410 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.359 don't know them. But like if it's Kendrick Perkins and Steven A. Smith 411 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:11.720 and Malika Andrews and you know formerly JJ Reddick sitting around, you know, 412 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.599 Rob what's his name rob something, the guy used to be the GM of 413 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.519 the Warriors. If you know they're on a halftime show or they're doing you 414 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.759 know, their postgame studio coverage of the NBA. You know what I'm doing, 415 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.279 not watching that. I don't care what they say. They're not entertaining 416 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.759 to me. It's Michael Wilbond. Don't care what he has to say, 417 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.519 because you know, the end of the day, it's entertainment and those guys 418 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.640 are not entertaining at all. Charles Barklay Shack, Ernie Kenny. That is 419 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.880 entertainment. That's really all it is. Like not to say they don't have 420 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.359 great basketball knowledge. They're I mean a lot of them are legendary players, 421 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:52.119 right, But it's entertainment and those guys I can't. I'm sure there's no 422 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.160 way to pull in any any any type of metrics that'll tell you how much 423 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.359 viewership an interest level that they bring to the NBA because of their show. 424 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.880 But it's certainly there and now it's gone. So like you know, Chuck 425 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.119 clearly is biased. But like I'll say it myself, like I have no 426 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.720 skin in the game. I'm not losing any money. But as somebody who 427 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:18.279 already kind of feels like I'm as a basketball you know, super fan my 428 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.680 whole life. Like I feel like I don't watch as much NBA and keep 429 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:22.960 up with it like I used to. Maybe it's just because I'm getting older. 430 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.119 But one thing I will watch and tune into is these guys. And 431 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.000 now they're not going to be a vision. They're not going to be I 432 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.279 mean, they're not gonna be affiliated with the NBA in any way. That 433 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.599 sucks, So, you know, I think the NBA is just foolish not 434 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.960 to consider that. However, this is about money. It's a business, 435 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.000 and they're making a lot of money. And TNT and whoever owns TNT, 436 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:42.720 I can think who it is, Turner, I mean obviously Turner, but 437 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.960 they're owned by a parent company. And they just didn't they didn't they didn't 438 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.680 bit as high. And Chuck referenced that in that quote, saying that it's 439 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.960 going to the highest bidder. But what are we going to get to the 440 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.880 point where it's like, you know, extremely streaming. It's not that expensive, 441 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.640 like I know, everybody is select like it put it this way, 442 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.839 everything's expensive right now. People have everybody's got different income and you know, 443 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.559 some don't have the ability to pick and sign up for eight different streaming services. 444 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.440 They have a budget to where they can only pick a few. But 445 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.640 like, if you really like the NBA, you can get it very affordable. 446 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:25.559 And honestly, who's like do people watch live TV other than sports? 447 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.119 I don't, And clearly people do, or it wouldn't exist, but like, 448 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.319 I don't know, Like I just that's one thing that that still can't 449 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:37.319 quite understand is the oh you kid me? They put it on a stream 450 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:44.799 First of all, again, the cost is is pennies per year. It's 451 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.960 that's literally what it is. And if you care enough, I don't, 452 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.559 like I don't. Again, everybody's financial situation is different, but like, 453 00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.079 if you are a fan and you got to pay four ninety nine a month 454 00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.839 or something to get to get an NBA game on Peacock, I feel like 455 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:03.920 you could probably make that work if you really want to, right, And 456 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.440 then as far as people complaining about the streaming element and the inconvenience of doing 457 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.640 it, like, wake up, guys, Like it's twenty Anybody who claims 458 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.960 I can't watch the game because it's only being streamed in twenty twenty four, 459 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.799 you know, go read a book, dude, Like, do you realize 460 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:25.640 the internet and technology is running this entire world? Those are the people who 461 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.000 still say, like they use the verbiage it's the games on the computer. 462 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:32.480 Yeah, I mean, like that's what that's Those people have not adapted to 463 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.680 this. I remember in twenty ten, twenty eleven, there was a like 464 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.079 it wasn't that convenient if you were on ESPN three, which is what they 465 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.240 called it then, because quite literally you had to get a laptop, computer 466 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.079 and an HDMI cord and that was not I mean that just sounds like some 467 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.599 pilgrimage stuff this day and age, does it not? Well now, like 468 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.559 you know, and I know there are many people that don't have a smart 469 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.799 TV, they don't have a Roku, And maybe that's why I'm just kind 470 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.880 of like, you know, I can't relate because I've had that, but 471 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.200 I feel like I was late to the streaming stuff, right, like I 472 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.799 had Direct TV forever and then we moved at one point and I just said, 473 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.359 you know, what the hell with it, let's give it a shot. 474 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.799 And now like that's all I would ever want is just to have a 475 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.519 rope. I mean, it's it's not only is it easy and convenient. 476 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.440 It's it's I mean, I'm prices have clearly gone up, but like I'm 477 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.519 now, I mean, I'm still paying way less for YouTube TV than I 478 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.319 was paying for DirecTV. But like that's again, the price is one thing. 479 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.319 Because again I don't want to sound like, oh, you're a poor 480 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.559 bum if you can't afford it, because again, everybody's financial situation is different. 481 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.440 But the whole inconvenience thing, like I I mean, eventually you're gonna 482 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.559 unless your days are numbered and you just know, like, hey, I'm 483 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:44.279 ninety seven years old, I've held off on technology this long. I'm gonna 484 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.200 I'm gonna kick the bucket never doing anything with technology. Like then you know, 485 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.400 what do you But if you're somebody that you know plans to be around 486 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.160 for a while, get acclimated with technology to where when you hear that something 487 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.240 is streaming, you don't assume that it's being you know, like streaming something 488 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.599 is not the dark web, folks, it's not the black market. It's 489 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.359 it's it and it's not even new anymore like this in like the New World, 490 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.359 I mean, it's newer than you know, hooking up a coax cable 491 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.920 the back of your TV or putting those bunny ears on the back of your 492 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.240 TV. But like that, I don't know. I'm not much of like 493 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.559 a technology snob, but when I hear people like my age or people you 494 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.079 know, relatively older not old, people like oh, it's on the stream, 495 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.000 Like do you realize how quickly you could you could stream something? Like 496 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.079 I would never do this because it's just to me, it wouldn't be practical 497 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.920 with how I watch. But you can actually download the app if you have 498 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.759 a smartphone watch it there and you can you can actually even if you don't 499 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:38.759 have I guess, yeah, you don't have to have a smart TV. 500 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.039 You don't have to have a real crew. You can actually what do you 501 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.759 call it, scaling it to your to your device or I can scream mirror. 502 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.759 Yeah, you can scream mirror like I mean, And again I wouldn't 503 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.960 recommend doing that if because I just think that could like if you get a 504 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.240 text message obviously while the game's on, it could be distracting. But like, 505 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.519 I don't know, like maybe that's a business we can tap into. 506 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.559 John. It's like educate people that like it's this easy, I'll come to 507 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.559 your house. I'll plug something in, you give me your WiFi password, 508 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.640 and we've changed the game. Like you I mean, you know, but 509 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:14.519 here's then they won't pay for streaming. They wouldn't pay for that. Yeah, 510 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.319 I guess you're right. I mean, it's not that difficult. And 511 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.880 I feel like if you like, this is the way I look at it, 512 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.920 just me. If you feel like, oh Man's streaming and I can't 513 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.160 do that, I feel like you are take take the NBA out of it, 514 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.480 take foot sports out of it. I feel like you're missing out on 515 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.279 so much, you know what I mean, Like there's a world out there 516 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.240 that you don't even know about. That's great. You can I mean, 517 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:42.079 I've I've I mean any show I watch now or any movie I watch like 518 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.240 it's through one of the streaming platforms and it's worth it, you know. 519 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.359 So yeah, I didn't mean to get so worked up about that, but 520 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.240 like, I just don't. I can't. Like, it's not that difficult. 521 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.240 And again, if you're not, I mean, you're gonna have to 522 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.039 do it at some point, because there's gonna be a day where you won't 523 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.880 be able to watch TV the way he used to that And by the way, 524 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.640 that's probably not that far away. For we're being honest here, all 525 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.480 right, stick around coffee and company. Philbuth Thorton's right here on Sports Talk 526 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.920 seven ninety. I want to give some credit to somebody that you guys may 527 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.639 not even know who he is, but his name is Jay Norvell and he 528 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.320 is the head coach of Colorado State. I don't remember the specifics, but 529 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:25.199 he did become more talked about name last year when Colorado State and Colorado played 530 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.119 each other, there was some kind of I don't remember something he said or 531 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:34.079 something Deon Sanders said, but before they played each other, he was I 532 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.960 think he said something and everybody was like happy that he wasn't afraid to, 533 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.840 you know, call the Deon Sanders thing out for like what it is. 534 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.880 But either way, he went to the Mountain West Media day today maybe it 535 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:52.960 was yesterday, and he mentioned tampering and a lot of coaches do that, 536 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.920 and I'm annoyed by because to me, it's if you're not going to put 537 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.360 a name on it, it's it's just to me, it's air, and 538 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.840 it's just you throwing out a potential excuse in case something doesn't work out right, 539 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.119 like or you lost a player like you could lose a player and have 540 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.039 nothing to do with tampering, but you can just say, oh, they're 541 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:17.400 tampering, and you know it's it's gonna happen regardless. I think every college 542 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.679 football coach knows, no matter what the rules are, there's going to be 543 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.559 coaches that been the rules and do things they're not supposed to do. And 544 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:25.760 right now, I mean, I think it's absolute free for all because I 545 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.079 don't think the NCAA like I don't think people are worried about getting in trouble 546 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.199 with the NSABA like they once were for obvious reason. So he did what 547 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.480 a lot of coaches did, but he went a little further where he actually 548 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.400 mentioned someone and he mentioned the school, and he mentioned the amount of money 549 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.000 that was thrown at a player who was not in the portal, which again 550 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.760 is technically against the rules. And I don't know if he's going to turn 551 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.360 into an NSABA investigation. I'm not sure if you know it's going to turn 552 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.320 into anything. But this is at least somebody putting a name on it and 553 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.679 not being afraid to say, hey, yeah, there was tampering going on, 554 00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.920 and this is who was doing it, and this is what they offered. 555 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.760 Braydon had the same kind of offers, you know, and you know, 556 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.199 and you can't if you have enough evidence, you can prove it. 557 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:14.519 But you know, smoking gun, smoking gun, you know, he said. 558 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.360 He said, guy from Kansas State called him offer him six hundred thousand 559 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.559 dollars because they lost their quarterback. And if he got in the portal. 560 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.840 And I'm not accusing Kansas stateum anyday. I'm just telling yeah, you are 561 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.079 told me. And so they they don't want their name throwing in it. 562 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.480 I think they should probably get a handle on their people. But there's a 563 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.760 lot of that going on in college football and that's just the way things are 564 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:42.239 right now. So two sides of that. I do like that he said 565 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.760 Kansas State. Somebody, a guy from Kansas State called him and offered him 566 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.920 six hundred thousand dollars because they lost their quarterback. That's more than most are 567 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.920 doing now. There's also a little bit of like, I'm not a ye. 568 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:53.719 I mean, like, if that's not accusing them, what are you 569 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.159 doing. I guess you're sharing what somebody told you. And maybe you could 570 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.079 say, well, I'm just sharing hearsay. But there's also okay, well 571 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.920 if it's here said, why would you even share it? So the end 572 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.800 of that is such a filler thing for coaches when talking about the portal and 573 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.440 about nil. That's just where we are, just the way it is now 574 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:19.639 things have changed. Why do so many coaches feel the need to say that, 575 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:24.679 like everybody's benefiting from it For the most part, the ones who complain 576 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.760 about it are the ones who who is it? Lane Kiffin? And this 577 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.760 is maybe not the good example. Maybe he's not a good example he used 578 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.840 because Len Kiffin is a character, but like he was, how much did 579 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.760 he bitch about the portal and tampering for the last two years yet he's actually 580 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.199 been, in the eyes of some the best coach at working the portal. 581 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.960 So maybe you're just mad you have to do it and you don't like it. 582 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.519 But like, I don't know, Like there's just something about coaches always 583 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.360 wanting to make it out as if their job is being made harder than it 584 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.480 needs to be, but it's not. It's just not really the true I 585 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.599 mean, like every I mean, I'm sure coaches did like it whenever they 586 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.800 didn't have to worry about a guy transferring as much as they do now because 587 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.719 kids wouldn't leave because they didn't want to sit out, and you didn't have 588 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.440 to worry about somebody offering them more money because at the time, if you 589 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.519 were getting money. I mean again, let's be real, players were making 590 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.719 money before NIL was a thing, but it wasn't probably nearly at I mean, 591 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.440 in fact, it wasn't nearly at the level it is now. And 592 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.519 it was done you know, off the books essentially right, Like it was 593 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.639 low key. It was you know, somebody you know, dropping a bag, 594 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.159 right, and now you can, you know, drop a bag, 595 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.159 I guess through in a business sense in regards to like, you know, 596 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.559 you can give somebody a check because it's now you're now allowed to do that 597 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:47.480 when it comes to NIL. But I don't know, like it's somebody going 598 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.440 to embrace it. Like I think, you know, I'm being biased here, 599 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.639 but I think Jeff Brohm has has you know, never gone out of 600 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.800 his way, but when asked about the portal, he just I think his 601 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.800 answer every single time has kind of been I mean, that's just that's that's 602 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.719 that's I mean, that's what we have to do now, Like that's what 603 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.800 we're doing. Like even if you're killing it, I still hear coaches acting 604 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.360 as if they're at a disadvantage, and I just I guess that's just coaches 605 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.039 being coaches. But there's also a part of me that's like, you have 606 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.320 to work harder now, like your job has changed a little bit, like 607 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:22.599 you have to do like in every in every industry, over time, there's 608 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.679 there's changes, there's things evolve, and your job can still have the same 609 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.719 title, you can still be called the same thing, and technically you're still 610 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.039 doing the same job, but there's layers to it that are different, and 611 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.960 there's components that are different. And that's what's happened in college football. And 612 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.119 I won't minimize it as if it's not a big difference. It is. 613 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:45.840 It's it's totally different. But you know, you got a pretty good I 614 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.280 mean, who has it better than college coaches that can suck and still get 615 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.519 paid after they're fired, like and they make a ton of money, Like 616 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.280 most of these coaches at these high level schools, they're the they're the the 617 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:04.079 highest paid public the highest paid public employee in their state. And they've had 618 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.559 to, you know, maybe monitor how they talk to kids a little bit 619 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.159 better and manage relationships better because coach, because kids may leave and they maybe 620 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.639 bothered to know that the guy in the parking lot might have you know, 621 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.199 he might be driving a nicer car than your wife or something like. It's 622 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:21.960 different, no doubt about it, but like you're not. It's not as 623 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.760 if you're being asked to, you know, go out and work eighty hours 624 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:30.159 a week, you know, doing manual labor. All right, we got 625 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.159 another hour to go, five o'clock on a Friday. It's here. Let's 626 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:35.960 have some fun. Don't go anywhere, keep it locked on Sports Talk seven ninety