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Hello, anybody home today, I
want you to open your mind and almost

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come of the conclusion that the story
is for them and that the massive animal

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can deal with it. We are
improcesis of developing who series of technique two

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bit people actually to love their certitude. We face a hostile ideology, global

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in scope, aseistic in character,
ruthless in purpose, and insiduous in medore.

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We are opposed around the world by
a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies

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primarily on covet means for expanding its
sphere of influence to change the minds and

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the attitudes and the beliefs of the
people to bring about one world socialistical palitarian

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government. The potential for the disastrous
rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

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It is patterned itself after every dictation
who has ever planted the ripping imprint

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of a boot on the pages of
history just the beginning of time. If

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you can get people to consent to
the state of affairs in which they are

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living, then you have a much
more easily controllable society than you would if

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you were relying fully on clubs and
firing squads and concentration camps. Tools of

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conquest to that necessarily can with bud
and extortions fold. There are weapons that

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simply fights prejudices to be found only
in the mind. As you connect the

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dots between different people, organizations,
places, religions, history, suddenly the

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picture starts to form. The Kingdom
of God is within men, not one

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man, nor a group of men, but in all men. In you,

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you, the people, have the
power to make this life free and

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beautiful, to make this life a
wonderful adventure. Someone born in the United

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States is not more special than someone
born in Mexico. Someone who is white

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is not more special than someone who
is black. They're just vehicles for the

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consciousness to experience what freedom. It's
slavery, ignorance, it's strength. They

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do not want your children to be
educated. They do not want you to

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think too much. It was learned
that the aliens had been and we're then

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manipulating masses of people through secret societies, witchcraft, magic, You are cult

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and religion. You reach into our
children in music, television, books,

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right children's instance, How can I
just truve lives that are stamp as an

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efficiency? So if you have the
opportunity to stand next to one of these

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machines. It feels like an altar
to an alien god. Genetic powers,

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the most awesome forced the planet's ever
seen. But you wielded like a kid

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that's found his dad's a gun.
The arm the airports an I'm start applying

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this is now in the production of
the Army. Too many others know what's

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happening out there, and no one, no government agency has jurisdiction over the

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truth. Any state, any entity, any ideomity. It fails to recognize

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the work, the dignity the rights
of man. That state is absolete.

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A case to be found under m
from mankind in the Twilight. Soon about

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time some of you got acquointed with
the real, hard truth. It's the

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haw that says I will not acquiesce. Freedom is the privilege that could be

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right, freedom from the disasters of
mistakes. Don't connect the dots, just

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the mass of what's all this about. We're broadcasting from the Sonoran Desert.

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I'm your host, Ryan Gable,
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Radio, where most of you are
listening right now ground zero Radio. Tonight's

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show is something that I normally don't
do. It is a two part show.

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Part one last night, didn't think
about doing a part two, and

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then the more I thought about it
after last night's show, I thought,

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I think the subject matter needs a
part two, perhaps a part three and

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part four honestly, but at least
a part two. I do want to

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talk about those underground tunnels in New
York City on Monday. One other thing

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about Tonight's show, real quick before
we get started, is that there will

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be a video of tonight's show,
and I will let you know where you

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can find that. It will be
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good news, I was finally allowed
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band. I had to create a
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on Twitter. So TST and then
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Underscore Underscore Radio. There'll be a
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We have a guest on tonight,
Rider Lee, who will be speaking with

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us about the subject matter last night. If you don't know what the subject

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matter was, it was called UFO
Revolution of the Mind, and UFO Revolution

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is a TMZ presents UFO Revolution documentary
on to B. It's an in depth

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look at whistleblowers and evidence that the
US government supposedly has in its possession about

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UFOs or UAPs, and last night, I said, without disparaging the documentary,

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it's important to note that for people
that have never studied UFOs, what

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you're seeing is obviously something very new
and very convincing, and if you don't

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have the context to what you're seeing, you can be convinced that what you're

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seeing is alien. When even in
the documentary without much context. Clearly it's

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not all about aliens. It's a
lot of speculation and a lot of implication.

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And again, if you've never heard
of any of this, you might

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think, well, look, there's
a guy in Congress testifying first hand,

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secondhand, third hand thrift store if
you will, experience with UFOs, and

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he must be telling the truth.
And he might be telling the truth.

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But what he saw, what he
interacted with, who he talked to,

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and what they interacted with and saw
might not be the whole story. As

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a matter of fact, I remember
reading Alien Agenda by Jim Marr is one

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of my favorite UFO alien books,
and in that book he talks about Bob

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Lazar, who's also in the third
part of this three part documentary series on

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TWOV and he says something to the
effect of Bob Lazar, and I believe

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Bob Blazar even might have said this
himself, that what he supposedly saw,

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if he really did work in any
capacity to AARA fifty one, was maybe

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something they wanted him to see so
that he could go out and spread the

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gospel, spread the narrative about UFOs
and aliens. And you might think,

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well, I believe Bob Lazar.
Why would the government show him something,

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or show anybody something just to make
them spread this fake story. And we

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have evidence in proof of that that
happened with Paul Bennowitz and Richard Dodi.

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We know that story from Miraje Men, right, And that's another question I

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have. Why is Mirajman a documentary
that even real hardcore researchers in the UFO

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community. I've talked to people that
have never heard of it, but they

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know all of these other cheap,
you know, dime a dozen UFO documentaries

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they get pushed and promoted. I'm
not saying UFO Revolution is one of those.

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I'm saying that there's hundreds, there's
probably thousands of them. YouTube videos.

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Those make money and they get all
this attention Mirajmen within the context of

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you know, the people that have
seen it, they like the movie.

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But I looked at the reviews of
miraj Meen, It's like three out of

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five stars. I'm thinking Mirajemen should
be five out of five stars. The

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groundbreaking documentary, very well documented,
and the story of Paul Benowitz is actually

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kind of similar to what Jim Mar's
good friend of ours here on the Secret

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Teachings wrote an alien agenda about Bob
Lazar that maybe what they showed him was

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what they wanted him to see to
create this narrative. And it actually is

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provable in the sense that the government
wanted to do things like this because they

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published a paper in nineteen fifty two
nineteen fifty three called the Robinson Pans Report

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and the Robertson Panel Report Government intelligence
agencies military said we need to infiltrate UFO

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groups because they might know more than
we know about the subject. But we

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also need to implant disinformation and misinformation
in those groups. We need to use

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Disney, that's a quote, Disney
and wartime propaganda film companies to spread disinformation

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and misinformation about UFOs because while the
government was taking it seriously in the early

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fifties, they didn't want the public
to take it seriously. And if they

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found people taking it seriously, those
people might stumble onto something that the government

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doesn't know, so they need to
monitor those people. This is all an

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official government record, Robertson Panel Report
nineteen fifty three, and the psychological nature

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of that report, interestingly enough,
is weirdly and bizarrely enough kind of taken

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from Edward Burnees's book Propaganda, published
about twenty five years before that in nineteen

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twenty eight, and it just so
happens to be one of the descendants within

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the blood Edward Burne's who shares the
name Brene's because he's he's a nephew the

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guy that founded Netflix, which is
just full of alien movies and UFO documentaries

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and all that sort of stuff.
So last time on the show, we

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got into the psychology and the other
possibilities of what the UFO is and what

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it symbolizes and what it represents.
The oldest flying saucer that we have is

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the sun disc or the solar disc
raws boat in the sky that goes across

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the sky during the day. The
boat to the vessel la Ama Tessu in

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Japan, Amatersu raw and so many
other sun gods. They go across the

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sky in this boat, this disc, it's a flying disc that moves across

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the sky. Now, in the
twentieth century, when we start to advance

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in technology, things change a little
bit and we start to think about space

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and traveling in space or above the
Earth at least, because everything of space

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and so you get other interpretations of
the UFO phenomena that don't get discussed,

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like there's a paradigm that is accepted, and that paradigm has viewpoints on UFOs

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that are filled with hardcore believers that
do not care what the evidence suggests.

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They just want to believe, and
they do believe. And then people that

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wouldn't believe if they were standing in
front of a gray alien and the greay

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alien said I'm a gray alien.
What everything you heard about me is true?

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They would still deny that that's real. And within that spectrum, it's

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all inside of this acceptable and unacceptable
paradigm. I think if you really want

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to understand the UFO subject, you
have to step outside the entire paradigm.

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You have to look at both of
the extremes and more moderate views and say,

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I think you're all a little bit
right, but I think you're all

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a little bit wrong. And of
course that doesn't sell books, that doesn't

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sell TV spots, that doesn't sell
documentaries, that doesn't sell anything, It

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doesn't sell a podcast, it doesn't
sell anything because it isn't sensational, because

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it isn't within this echo chamber of
individual belief systems. So I want to

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take you back quickly as a recap. Before we have Rider Lee on the

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show, I want to look at
Carl Jung for a moment. Carl Jung,

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the famed psychologist, one of the
smartest men probably who ever lived,

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and certainly one of the top smartest
human beings in the twentieth century. Carl

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Jung pointed out that as civilization grows
and things changed, and he's referencing the

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twentieth century, he said, the
twentieth century created a situation that resembles at

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tabula rasa, which means a blank
slate. And he said, when civilization

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advances to the point where things change
drastically and dramatically, almost like a singularity,

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he said, then something can develop
within that vacuum. And he said

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the phenomenon of the UFOs may well
just be such an apparition. Now people

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here it's apparition, or Carl Young
calls it a psychic projection. Well,

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he's crazy. We have photos and
videos of it. It's like, well,

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you're still operating within that paradigm.
Because the mind can project and the

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mind can create and manifest things just
based on belief. That's what mass psychogenic

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illness is. We'll get to that
in just one second. So the study

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of UFOs shouldn't be removed from science
and technology just because there's a psychological aspect

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to it. Because if we had
the right instruments and we knew where to

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point them and when to point them, we could probably find a lot of

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so called UFOs. But what do
UFOs mean. It's an unidentified object up.

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Obviously, it doesn't mean that they're
aliens. Right, So when you

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look at the subject, you know, we do know one thing about UFOs

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that are really really that's really concrete. It's a social fact, and that

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debating them transforms the political landscape,
It transforms the culture, and we need

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to take that in consideration just as
much as perhaps whatever the implications of these

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things are. And as Joseph Campbell
alluded to, a lot of this is

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not outer space. It's inner space. It's in the mind, it's in

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the temple. So we shouldn't remove
science and technology from the UFO subject,

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or UFOs and the science technology.
We should keep that, But look at

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this from an inner space point of
view and a psychological point of view.

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And here's a great example of this. The electromadnetic spectrum from gamma rays to

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radio waves is vast, like beyond
human comprehension. We only see a small

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percentage of visible light. A lot
of you probably know this, right.

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The US Department of Energy says the
entire they quote that. This is a

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quote they say, rainbow of radiation
observable to the human eye. Within that

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whole rainbow of radiation, we can
see point zero zero three five percent.

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So obviously within that ninety nine point
percent, there is an incredible, incredible

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amount of infinite possibilities and ecosystems that
we don't see and we don't interact with.

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But for the thing is like infrared, for example, we have technology

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that can see into the infrared spectrum. Some animals, some insects can see

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infrared. They can see a whole
other world. Maybe that's part of the

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reason why cats go like this and
they move their their paws at things that

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we don't see, and we're like, all the cat's just acting crazy.

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Or babies look up and look around
and they can see things that maybe we

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don't see. And this is all
part of the esoteric evolution of man,

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because the crystallizing of perception in physical
reality cuts us off from those things that

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are beyond the immediate five senses in
visible light. And then you can go

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further than that. You can look
at things like DMT. We all produce

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DMT. Animals produce DMT, plants
can produce DMT. We eat the animals,

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We eat the plants, especially in
excess one way or the other,

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or both, and that is more
DMT. And then, as doctor Rick

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Strassman pointed out in the Spirit Molecule
Book, it's very possible that stress and

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anxiety and worry and fear produces more
DMT. So when you're consuming animals that

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produce DMT, that are killed in
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you're consuming those animals you're stressed and
anxious all the time because of COVID,

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because of war, because of politics, because of Trump, because of Biden,

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whatever the case is, you produce
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phones, we stare at computers,
We don't get enough sleep, We have

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an imbalance. And as doctor Rix
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theoretically possible, DMT is kind of
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connect to what we call the normal
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it becomes out of balance in whatever
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DMT, we consume too much of
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of it naturally by some trigger that
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radio station, to another dimensional wavelength, and we start to see things that

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maybe other people can't see. And
Carl Jung referenced not DMT, but he

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referenced this idea at the end of
his UFO book. He wrote a series

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of essays that was turned into a
book in the late seventies, and he

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talked about how some UFOs show up
on radar, but they don't show up

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to our eyesight. Some UFOs show
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and he admitted said, I don't
know what that is. I don't

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know what this means. But he
said ninety plus percent. It's like I

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think, he said, ninety eight
percent or so. Of UFOs. He

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said, I think it's a psychic
projection from psychic stressors. And that's not

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just war. It could also be
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that we have about paying our bills. It could be a combination of all

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sorts of different things. Then you
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he coined the term machine elves or
DMT elves, and these are very

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bizarre creatures that most people that interact
with DMTC or interact with creatures like them

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or something something similar. And these
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And you know what elves are,
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little creatures and they usually wear green
little green men sound familiar. The whole

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fairy lore is the basis of modern
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And you go back further shamanism,
where they put implants in the shaman

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and the shaman comes back with knowledge
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of the planet, the health of
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taking place in inner space, all
these ideas that aliens are here to save

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us or protect us, or stop
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us to save the planet from pollution. What all that sounds like to me

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is it sounds like an unconscious or
a subconscious fear that we have of nuclear

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weapons, that we have of pollution
per se, and we project that unconsciously

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onto these anthropomorphic like beings that in
most UFO documentaries and circles, people think,

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well, they look like us because
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projection of us, and we create
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atonement that we acquire from these saviors
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this makes far more sense. And
I think that this is in the

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work of Young, this is in
the work of mckinna, this is in

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the work of so many others like
doctor Rick Strassman. And we're talking about

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something that is beyond the paradigm of
accepted euphological lore. And I think we

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need to understand this. I think
we need to consider this or we're never

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going to get anywhere on the UFO
subject. So when you consider all this,

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you put all this into context,
there are a number of different things

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that we need to really inject into
the ufology discussion. And I can tell

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you firsthand, having done this for
fourteen years I'd say about eight professionally,

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it is almost impossible to get this
information to speak at a conference, to

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get these kinds of shows to do
better than just average in an archive to

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download. People aren't average or not
interested in this because it is not aliens.

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It's not sellable, it's not sensational, and we need to change that

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because this might be far more accurate
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So here's a couple examples what exists
beyond visible light, which is only a

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small percentage of the rainbow of radiation. And we have tools that maybe can

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see beyond that, but our eyes
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There's whole ecosystems beyond that right here, right now on Earth. We're not

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even talking about other dimensions. We're
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just slightly outside of what humans can
see that animals can see. It's like

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with hearing some sounds that we can
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Then you have to consider point number
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altered states of consciousness which may link
us to other worlds and ecosystems, like

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a computer terminal links us to an
invisible internet, and that can be induced

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with stress and anxiety and fear that
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Blue water lily, which was the
Egyptian ergot which was in Greece and

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so many other substances, payota,
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which are mirages of flying ships.
Well it's a flying ship, it's

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anti gravity flying Dutchman. You ever
seen these videos or these pictures the fata

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morgana, it means superior mirage and
it show a giant oil tanker or a

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cargo ship literally looks like it's literally
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on the water. Then you have
things like Mariana apparitions, where Mary appears

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to people that are faithful and appears
to I mean, there's the famous one

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in Portugal. Mariana apparitions. These
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beans that are angelic. This has
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euphological phenomena as well. And then, as I said a moment ago.

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Mass psychogenic illness. Mass psychogenic illness
is a phenomenon consisting of collective anxieties due

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to a perceived threat that can result
in symptoms of a disease with no identifiable

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cause. There's a case of this
in two thousand and six, and there's

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actually tons of cases of this inout
history. Dancing plagues, laughing epidemics in

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Tanzania in the nineteen sixties. The
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to fourteen I think or fifteen hundreds. Mass psychogenic illness is basically a lot

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of psychologists think that's what anarexia has
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not a real illness. It's something
that we've created. It's something that's result

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of fear and anxiety and stress and
worry, and what the news tells us,

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or what we read in books or
whatever becomes the social dominant norm,

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and then people adapt and adjust to
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and Edward Bernez and these people,
these famous psychologists, were so important,

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and that's why it's important to know
that that same mindset founded one of the

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biggest streaming platforms ever, Netflix.
That's important, especially when they're pushing all

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this UFO stuff. Mass psychogen illness
in two thousand and six was documented in

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I believe it was Portugal, where
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shows. It was called Strawberries with
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and the kids were developing symptoms of
a disease from the show that did not

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exist, and they went to the
doctors, went to the hospitals. They

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didn't feel good, they were sick, they had symptoms. But the doctor

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said, this isn't a disease.
It's a mental projection of an unconscious or

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subconscious and collective anxiety that resulted in
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show. Then you have psychic projections
caused by psychic stressors. This is what

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Carl Jung stressed war foo fighters,
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Germany, etheric disks making contact with
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Then you have to consider mass drugging
of the population, legal and illegal

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drugs mixed with thousands of chemicals interacted
with every day, the paint in your

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walls, the chemicals use to clean
your floor, what you eat off of

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the plate, Even if the plate's
clean, you cleaned it with chemicals that

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gets into your food. Those chemicals, the stress, the anxiety, the

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fear, the worry, the drugging
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production of DMT produced by the body, what we consume from the animal kingdom.

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You put all that into consideration,
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overlapping of various phenomenon. You have
chronic stress, fear, and the lack

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of proper nutrition and sleep, all
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You put all this stuff into the
equation and you have a much clearer

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view, I think, a less
blurry view of what the UFO phenomenon really

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is. And when you factor in
Carl Jung's seemingly forgotten analysis of the UFO

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phenomenon in the nature of Burne's based
propaganda, the same stale arguments and debates

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over UFO's evaporate, and a whole
new world is opened, whole new dimension,

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if you will, a whole new
field of possibilities that are not confined

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to the rigid scientific view of well, aliens couldn't come here, or they

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don't have the technology. We don't
have it, so they couldn't have it.

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Or aliens couldn't come here. There's
too far away, so they got

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to get a piece of paper and
fold it and poke a hole through it.

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The same stale arguments on the other
side, Well, maybe they're interdimensional

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and they're coming here, and the
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I think there's another way to look
at this tonight, So if you're

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website. So half hour almost already
covered. I'm going to take a deep

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breath. I'm going to invite our
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a co host with me, because
I think Ryder has a very objective viewpoint

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on this subject, one of the
few people that I trust to talk about

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UFOs. We did an episode of
Ground Zero together when Clyde was out and

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we called that alien Aggregor and we
talked a little bit about the manifestation of

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these things in the public conscience.
And so Ryder is joining me right now

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to talk also about the new UFO
documentary Rider Lee. I know I talked

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quite a bit. I would like
your opinions and your views and your thoughts.

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Go ahead, my friend. How's
it going, Ryan? Thanks so

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much for having me on the Secret
Teachings. It's an honor and a privilege

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to be on here with you again. And it's interesting. Yeah, you

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did an amazing job talking about all
of the things. You can e encapsulated

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it perfectly. Now, one thing
that I wanted to mention really quickly before

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we get into the to be TMZ
documentary that just came out, this three

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part episode docu series, is that
I'm doing a show next week on Thursday,

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and I'm going to be doing this
series on the legends of Ufology and

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the first person that I'm going to
be covering is Kenneth Arnald. And through

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my research of Kenneth Arnald, he
never said that it was a flying saucer.

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You can't even find a quote of
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saucer. Now you have people saying
that he said that it was a flying

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saucer, but what he actually said
was that it moved like a saucer moves

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across the water. Never called it
a flying saucer. He said that it

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was winged and bat shaped or boomerang
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Never said it was a flying saucer. And then the media took that

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and then picked up the entire flying
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very little well known thing that I
don't even think people even know what to

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make of this. It's actually perplexes
me. And this comes from a book

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written by Chris Albeck titled Saucers,
and I've had him on my show a

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couple of times. So now the
term flying saucer actually was around way before

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it was ever associated with UFOs.
Flying saucers was a sport that predated Arnold

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sightings by over sixty years, which
was called trap shooting, which was started

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in the late eighteen hundreds as a
way to train hunters and shooters in which

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you would release live birds from a
cage and use them as like target practice,

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and later the birds were changed to
little clay flat discs named flying saucers

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by a man named Charles Lwitski in
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so by the early nineteen hundreds,
flying saucerers had become so super popular as

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a sport. There were competitions,
there were championships, and there was news

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headlines the said in newspapers at North
America skies are covered in flying saucers flying

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through the air, exploding and then
falling to the earth, which is an

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exact replica of the phrases of what
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the Roswell incident and the signings in
the fifties. It's just a coincidence,

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right, But that's just a little
preview of my show on Thursday.

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I'm going to get that's really deep
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I said about the oldest flying saucers
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of raw or the winged disc,
and that disc would be said to move

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through the sky. It would rise
in the east in the morning and then

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it would crash and burn in the
evening. It would fall to earth in

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the evening. That's one of the
oldest and most classical art archetypes in the

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myth. So flying saucers go back
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the sun. You're referencing a game
from the late eighteen hundreds that became very

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popular, and the same idea of
things falling down over the earth, which

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is very fourteen as well. And
then you get into nineteen forty three and

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I found a reference in military records
of what they called flying discs that were

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etheric that made contact with military planes
over Germany in nineteen forty three. So

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you have the archetype, you have
the game, and then you have actual

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reports of what we would call today
UFOs in the military record, and all

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that was way before Kenneth Arnold,
who, like you said, did not

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see flying saucers or flying discs.
He saw chevron shaped craft moving very quickly.

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And it's interesting too because through my
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used for trap shooting, Charles Lewitzki
actually came up with the name and came

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up with the idea of these flying
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saucerers across the water exactly what Arnold
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Yes, yeah, it's unbelievable.
And in the twentieth century, the

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name flying saucer become a commonplace name, being used for nearly two decades.

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The sport of flying saucers became so
popular was adopted by the Olympics nineteen sixteen.

404
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.039
A number of participants in the sport
of flying saucers, with six hundred

405
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:37.880
thousand people in the US all knew
the term flying saucer and called these little

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clay pigeons flying saucers. The military
even adopted it to train their soldiers in

407
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target practice in the beginning of World
War II, So that gets into the

408
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collective unconscious, and then when you
get into the nineteen forties and that becomes

409
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it. And then actually you get
into the early fifties too, and the

410
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military is basically taking what Edward Brenees
wrote about in the late twenties. And

411
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:05.400
then Netflix was actually founded by one
of his relatives. You see that they

412
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.200
say, we need to take control
of this narrative, we need to push

413
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.279
one idea, but we're still going
to investigate this because there's still some kind

414
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of phenomenon here. Will infiltrate UFO
groups, will use Disney to spread diss

415
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:22.799
and misinformation. I think Mirageman documentary
is one hundred percent right that's the founding

416
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.319
document of the uphul lot that well
in terms of a record, founding document

417
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in terms of how the government chose
to address, cover up and distort the

418
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:38.240
issue of ufology. And then all
those UFO movies in the early fifties come

419
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.119
out, all the classics, and
we get the same exact thing today with

420
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.960
Burnees's relative founding Netflix. And that's
all Netflix pumps out's a bunch of alien

421
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:52.119
occult stuff like that all the time. That's all they produce and pump out

422
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.480
occult stuff, symbolic stuff. UFOs
aliens, so does Hulu. Hulu was

423
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.119
promoted with aliens with Alec Baldwin.
Remember that. So this is much more

424
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than just do you believe in aliens? Do you believe in UFOs? We

425
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:10.079
have to look at this from a
completely different paradigm, Like I said,

426
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.960
yes, and you know, looking
at this trap shooting phenomenon. If people

427
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:25.920
are more or interested in this,
checkout Chris Albeck's book on Amazon Sorcers created

428
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:32.079
an amazing layout and documentation and research
into all this stuff. But also I'm

429
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:37.239
doing a show on it on Thursday
of next week. If people are interested

430
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:43.760
in I'm just going to cover everybody
since Kenneth Arnold. I'm just going to

431
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.840
go down the list and do a
deep dive into these people in their claims

432
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.559
and what they were actually seeing,
and trying differentiate between what they said and

433
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.840
what they didn't say, and where
really these thoughts and ideas came from,

434
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.280
just like I did with the UFO
cults. So tonight, let's look at

435
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:08.639
the TMZ presents UFO Revolution documentary.
For those of you just joining us,

436
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.599
this is a part two of the
Secret Teachings. Last night we did UFO

437
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.559
Revolution of the Mind. Tonight we
are doing and it's a little bit comical.

438
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:22.679
Tonight I've called this show the UFO
Monopoly Empire Strikes Back because one of

439
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.199
the UFOs in the documentary that was
on two B and you can watch it

440
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.119
for free. It's been out a
couple of days. It looks like a

441
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.280
drone that Vader sends down to Hoff
to find the resistance in Star Wars.

442
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.960
And that doesn't mean that I'm making
fun of the documentary. It just means

443
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.880
that it kind of looks like that. So it brings the psychology back into

444
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:49.920
question. Did George Lucas know something
or was this a chicken? The egg

445
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.679
comes for the chicken. The chicken
comes for the egg. Is this just

446
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.000
something collective that we projected? Is
this just me seeing things? I mean,

447
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.800
it was originally kind of a joke
I was talking to you about writer,

448
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.480
But when you look at this jellyfish
ufo as they're calling it, which

449
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.639
has gone viral on the internet from
the documentary, it kind of looks like

450
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.039
one of those floating drones from Star
Wars. But what is your take on

451
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:16.960
this? Well, the issue is
is that in this documentary there's a lot

452
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:23.360
of inaccuracies, people reporting things that
is not accurate. Dates are wrong.

453
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.880
Jeremy Corbell in this documentary said that
this video of this jellyfish ufo came out

454
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.519
in twenty and eighteen, when it
didn't. It came out in two thousand

455
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.880
and seventeen. Now, I don't
know about you, Ryan, but if

456
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.599
I'm doing a whenever i'm doing a
regular show, I am going to double

457
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.480
check my dates. I'm going to
make sure that I know exactly what I'm

458
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:53.800
talking about, that I'm very accurate. And this isn't even a documentary,

459
00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:04.039
so you're telling me for a big
budget TMZ documentary, Jeremy Corbel didn't double

460
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:08.519
check his dates to make sure that
he was accurate in his reporting of this

461
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.760
event. He said, what twenty
eighteen? Yes, And how do we

462
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:23.440
know it's twenty seventeen because there was
a confirmed intelligence officer that Mickwest interviewed that

463
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:30.639
actually seen the footage. I believe
the footage was seven minutes long, and

464
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.719
he said that Jeremy Corbel inaccurately reported
the date. Hold on, I'll find

465
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.039
it. So it wasn't that the
video was fake or that it was made

466
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.679
up or distorted. It was just
that the date was wrong. Yeah,

467
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:50.119
he got the date wrong of when
it was released. So a marine who

468
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.920
worked on the base in Iraq tells
me he saw a seventeen minute video jellyfish

469
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.679
UFO video. He says the Marines
nicknamed it at the spa Eddie Monster,

470
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:07.519
which seems pretty accurate. You.
I didn't even think about the spaghetti monster.

471
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:15.519
So Michael Sykowski says he worked in
the intelligence surveillance recognition and said that

472
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:22.679
the video is from twenty seventeen,
not twenty eighteen reported previously by Jeremy Corbel.

473
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:32.719
Now again, I just had a
show yesterday on the Stargate program,

474
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The history of the Stargate program,
and the program is very convoluted. It

475
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.119
has a lot of dates, a
lot of name changes of the program,

476
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.920
and I went back and I double
checked all of those dates again just to

477
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:52.760
make sure that they were accurate.
I actually brought up the Stargate briefing document

478
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.400
and read through it again, even
though I had read through it three or

479
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.719
four times, just to make sure
that everything was accurate, because it's very

480
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.800
convoluted and there's a lot of things
going on, and I wanted to make

481
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.079
sure that I was giving accurate information. I don't understand why in a high

482
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:17.519
budget documentary, Jeremy Corbel can't go
back and reconfirm, especially in something that

483
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:23.360
is as scripted as a documentary like
a documentary, you know what you're going

484
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:30.920
to say. There's normally a script
any TV, any movie, any documentary.

485
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.480
You have a rough outline of what
you're going to talk about. And

486
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:44.280
it's unbelievable to me that anybody could
be in a high budget documentary and get

487
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.639
a date wrong like that doesn't make
any sense to me. You know what

488
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.400
that reminds me of. And I'm
not disparaging Jeremy Corbell. I have my

489
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.480
own opinions about him. I've met
him before. All I'm saying in regard

490
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.800
to what you're bringing up, writer, is it makes me think of like

491
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.280
the videos and the pictures that celebrities
share when there are wildfires or when they's

492
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.639
flooding, where the pictures and the
videos are from like five six years ago

493
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.519
and they're not from the current fire
or the current flood, and the celebrities

494
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.119
are sharing them or their agents are
sharing them on behalf of them on Twitter

495
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.119
or whatever, saying we care about
the environment. This is what climate change

496
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:23.039
is doing. Look at this fire
and so and so on, and it's

497
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.960
like that fire was from like ten
years ago, that wasn't the same fire.

498
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.199
People did that with Leahina too,
sharing pictures. Look at what the

499
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.239
lasers did. Lasers blew up this
place, and I'm like, that picture

500
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.559
is from California in like twenty seventeen. That's not from Leahina. So those

501
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.719
things happen all the time because people
don't check the sources online. And that's

502
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:46.039
just with something like climate change.
With UFOs, it's even more convoluted and

503
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:52.480
that happens all the time. Even
the Pyramid and Antarctica, that story made

504
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.440
it back into the news a couple
of years ago, circulating everywhere, and

505
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.880
I thought, that's one of the
first UFO stories alien weird history history stories

506
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.280
I ever covered back in like two
thousand and ten or eleven, and it

507
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.079
was making rounds like it was brand
new, and I told people, that's

508
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.559
not new, that's like eleven years
ago. Same thing with the Orion Conspiracy

509
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.199
fake documentary. People are sharing pictures
of a uphone Antarctica. I'm like,

510
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.440
dude, that was from the Orion
Conspiracy in two thousand and eight, two

511
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.960
thousand and nine, whenever it came
out two thousand and eight, about how

512
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.800
gullible people were and how they would
just buy anything. Ironically, that's why

513
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:34.360
the thing was made. So this
happens all the time in politics, happens

514
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.639
a lot more, probably in eufology
because we're not checking the dates and it

515
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:44.800
just looks interesting so we share it. Yeah. And there's a few other

516
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:51.519
themes that Jeremy Corbell talked about in
the documentary too, like that he isn't

517
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.519
paid to do it. I actually
I have a clip here. I'm on

518
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:01.360
the plane, oh Georgia. We
were on this every day day and this

519
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:07.519
is not a job that we get
paid for actually have a real job.

520
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:16.320
What do you mean you're not getting
paid for it? How many documentaries has

521
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:22.519
he done on UFOs? Handful that
I've seen. I've seen the Bob Blazar

522
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.880
one. That was the last one
I watched. That's not how movies and

523
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.639
TVs work, dude, Like you
just don't do a documentary and not get

524
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:37.880
paid for it like a studio.
Netflix is not going to not pay you

525
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.599
money upfront to do a documentary for
them. That documentary that he did with

526
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.880
Bob Blazar on Netflix, he for
sure got paid money up front. There's

527
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.800
no way that he didn't. Now, I'll give him a little bit of

528
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.239
an out and say that maybe he
is referring to the research that he does.

529
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:02.239
Maybe he's referring to, well,
I don't get paid for the research

530
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.119
that me and Georgia Napp do.
Well, no one gets paid to do

531
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:14.039
any kind of research. But hopefully
throughout time you'll see the fruits of that

532
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:21.559
labor through some form of monetary value. So I'm not absolutely sure. It's

533
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.880
just a poor choice of words on
his in to say. Is he blanketing

534
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.159
the entire thing? Is he saying, oh, I've never been paid for

535
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.920
any of this stuff. Well,
that's bullshit, that's nonsense. Yes,

536
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.880
you have. I find Jeremy Corbel
to be an honest guy in the sense

537
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.320
that I think he legitimately wants to
know and wants to find things out.

538
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.199
I find it to be slightly erratic, and I think erratic ego driven behavior

539
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:53.320
can distort things like well, certain
details that aren't maybe consciously shared inaccurately,

540
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.559
but not even unconsciously shared inaccurately.
Just because of the erratic kind of behavior,

541
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.000
you get things wrong because you're so
quick to want to talk about them

542
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:06.719
and share them. That's just my
personal assessment. I didn't say anything bad

543
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.280
about Jeremy Corbel last night because,
like I said, I don't think that

544
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.000
he's a bad guy per se.
But Jeremy Corbell has, however, whatever

545
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.840
the reason is, objectively and factually
shared things that were not accurate and were

546
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.440
not true and would not because I
commented on some of the stuff he posted

547
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.639
on Twitter and I said, hey, that's that video is not from where

548
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.840
you say it is. That video
is not what you say it is.

549
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.039
Here's the origin of it. And
of course you know, I get blocked,

550
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.320
so he's not respond and maybe I'm
just a nobody. He's not responding

551
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.920
to. I get it, but
some things are like really obvious and some

552
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.360
things are really suspicious too. The
video that he shared and talked about was

553
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.639
it May of last year about the
marine based UFO and twenty nine Palms,

554
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.960
Right, remember that story and that
story I met him at Contact in the

555
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:59.840
Desert years ago, and he walked
across the street and Contacted the Desert.

556
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.440
The conference was at twenty nine Palms. He walks across the street and gets

557
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.480
up on stage, and unless he
was joking, he says, he's like,

558
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.239
this is great having the conference right
here because I lived just across the

559
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:15.079
street. So basically he got this
great UFO video from a marine base in

560
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.760
his backyard. And that reminded me
of in twenty fourteen when I was on

561
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.519
Dark Matter with Jimmy Church. He
makes these deals with Coast to coast kind

562
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:28.400
of behind dark Matter and Art Bell's
back and then suddenly it's Huffington Post and

563
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.599
all these other places. Jimmy Church
Malibu UFO base, and he lived in

564
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.559
California, and it's like, so
he found a UFO base in his backyard.

565
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.800
Jeremy Corbel found this great UFO footage
in his backyard at a military base.

566
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.239
It's just too close to the individual. It's actually reminds me of Piltdown

567
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:52.519
Man, where researchers found the missing
link of all human evolution just right outside

568
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.199
of a college outside of London,
and then it turned out to be a

569
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:04.239
fraud. Yeah, in that video
of the UFO in California, is military

570
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:10.079
flares? It's proven proven military case. Yes, yes, question absolutely military

571
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:14.079
flares. And then there's another one
to see. It's like, what is

572
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:22.679
he released that has been accurate?
There hasn't really been anything that's been accurate

573
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:28.280
that he's released. When it comes
to UFOs, it's exactly like the triangle

574
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:34.880
craft that he released also in twenty
twenty two, and that turned out to

575
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:39.239
be a the aperture of the camera
because whenever the lens closes up, it

576
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:45.519
creates a triangle within the camera,
and then wherever you move the camera the

577
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:52.639
things that are out of focus creates
a triangle. And a Navy intelligence officer

578
00:46:52.840 --> 00:47:00.280
at the UFO Congressional hearing came out
and said that exact same thing has a

579
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.440
clip here too. I want to
play it. The triangular appearance is a

580
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.960
result of light passing through the night
vision goggles and then being recorded by an

581
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:15.119
SLR camera. It is simply that
that light source resolves itself through the through

582
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.199
the night vision goggles onto the SLR
camera as a triangle. Hey, listen,

583
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.880
writer, when you play around with
a DSLR camera, I did that.

584
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.480
In film school. We had digital
photography classes, digital video classes.

585
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.639
Nothing to do with aliens or UFOs, but when you would play around with

586
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:36.360
it and take pictures and play with
the lens and have different lenses and all

587
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.960
this. I wasn't well versed on
camera stuff. I was more of an

588
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.960
audio guy. But when you played
around with the with the lenses and stuff,

589
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.360
you just took random pictures. You
go back through, you know,

590
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.079
a thousand pictures you took. I
guarantee I could just take my cell phone

591
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.079
start taking pictures and go back and
look at what I took. Let alone

592
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.320
one of those complex cameras, and
I could find all kinds of UFOs I

593
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.559
could find, orbs, I could
find, triangles, I could find,

594
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:02.119
you know, rods or cylindrical craft. When it's really just like dust or

595
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.320
light. And that doesn't mean that
every UFO can be described in that way,

596
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.199
but some things are like really really
obvious, like the flares that Jeremy

597
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:15.440
Corbel shared. That's why I got
actually blocked because I said, here's the

598
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.920
original video and what you shared was
partially edited and out of context. And

599
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.599
if you can't admit that you're wrong
about something like that, how can you

600
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:30.039
trust anything else? The individual says, that's my problem. That's the whole

601
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.760
crux of this entire phenomenon. And
that's another problem that I had with this

602
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:43.679
documentary is that there's a section I
think in episode two where the whole group

603
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:50.800
is talking about why all of the
UFO videos and UFO photos are blurred.

604
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.079
Yes, yes, let's talk about
that. That's very important. And as

605
00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:02.000
a filmmaker, because when Jeremy Corbell
pops up on screen, underneath his name

606
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:09.159
says filmmaker. So as a filmmaker, this is in the two B documentary

607
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:15.719
for this reference in the two B
documentary UFO Revolution three part series Just came

608
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:22.519
Out, pops up underneath his name
is says filmmaker. And as a filmmaker,

609
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:30.199
you should know why everything is blurred. The only reason that you would

610
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:38.639
blur photos or blur videos is to
add something, superimpose something into the video

611
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:45.800
to try and hide it better.
That's the biggest reason anybody would blur a

612
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:52.280
video is to create the illusion that
something is real, so that people can't

613
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:59.360
figure out if anything is placed or
inserted or superimposed in the video, if

614
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.239
you are doing that, if you
are super imposing or adding her. But

615
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:05.960
it's just interesting that none of them
brought that up at all. They're like,

616
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.159
oh, well, something to do
with the It's just a phenomenon itself

617
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:19.360
that turns twenty twenty three video cell
phone footage into early two thousands flip phone

618
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.039
footage. Yeah, I remember that
part. Was that part two of the

619
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.000
documentary? I think? But yes, And I'm like, why is nobody

620
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:35.719
bringing this up? Why a filmmaker
has the title of filmmaker right under his

621
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:40.400
name in the documentary? Can't come
to the conclusion that maybe a lot of

622
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:46.360
these videos are blurred on purpose to
hide things that are superimposed into the video

623
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:52.480
itself, or that people will share
videos that are very blurry, whether they're

624
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:59.840
edited or not, because the blurry
ones are very questionable. There's plausible deniability.

625
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.159
So a lot of people on YouTube
can share those videos over and over

626
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:07.400
and over again, and it's really
hard to prove or debunk those videos,

627
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.440
and so those are the ones that
get shared, and those are the ones

628
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.280
that become popular, and that becomes
sort of a poster child for the euphological

629
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:21.400
phenomenon itself. I agree with you, and I'd like to add one other

630
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.280
thing to that. I think it's
also very important to recognize that a lot

631
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:29.559
of the times when people take those
videos, and this doesn't mean aliens writer,

632
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.960
but just another point of observation.
Doesn't mean aliens, doesn't mean UFOs

633
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.920
whatever that implies to each listener.
But when you're say you're outside and you're

634
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:44.039
doing something and then you see some
strange lights and maybe you have your phone,

635
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:45.920
and you grab your phone and you
start filming it. I mean we're

636
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:52.079
talking about usually a pretty vast distance, how many miles away it is in

637
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.199
the sky. And if it's just
a little light, even a really you

638
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.159
know, really good iPhone, is
that going to be able to capture a

639
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.760
great video of that. So it
becomes very blurry and you can't really get

640
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.840
any kind of definition to it.
Or in other cases, people are filming

641
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:09.599
something else and they see something weird
and they turn the camera and they're not

642
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.199
prepared for it, so things are
blurry and shaky, or there's also the

643
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.159
fact that most of these objects when
they really when they really want to,

644
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.679
they move fast. So it's really
hard to get a good clear picture of

645
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.599
that moving very quickly at a very
far distance and you're not prepared for it.

646
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.800
It's very hard to capture that.
And even that could just be a

647
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.239
satellite for that matter, you know, I'm not talking about aliens. It

648
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.280
could just be a satellite and you
think, oh, it's a UFO,

649
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.119
it's an alien ship, and you
start filming it and you get this grainy,

650
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.760
blurry footage and it's like to someone
on YouTube that looks like, oh,

651
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.119
it's a UFO, it's an alien, when really it's probably just a

652
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:49.960
SpaceX satellite. There's just so many
possibilities to this, and it's really hard

653
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.199
to film something that you don't know
is going to be there and just comes

654
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.719
out of nowhere and moves really quick
and then disappears. So that's just another

655
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.480
angle to what you're saying that certainly
was not addressed, that probablyably should have

656
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:07.719
been addressed. Well, Ryan,
I have a brand new photo of a

657
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:14.199
unidentified flying object that I took a
picture of in my backyard my backyard is

658
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:21.880
now a hub of UFO activity.
And actually, while we were sitting here

659
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.039
before the show started, I turned
around in the window behind me. I

660
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.039
took off that tapestry that's behind me, and I seen something strange in the

661
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:35.440
sky and in broad daylight. I
turned around with my phone and then I

662
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.880
snapped a picture and this is what
I got right here for radio listeners.

663
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.599
As radio listeners, obviously you can't
see this, but there is a video

664
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.199
posted to Facebook and our Twitter page
where you can watch the whole video from

665
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:52.880
tonight's January twelfth, Friday twenty twenty
fourth show. Wow, look at that

666
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.000
UFO. You capture that right in
your backyard. Huh, right in my

667
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:59.440
backyard, dude, it is unbelievable. I couldn't believe it. I would

668
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:04.760
contact a three films immediately. Yes, we need to make a high budget

669
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:10.880
documentary about the photo that I took
in my backyard where they are also aliens

670
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.599
looking in the window and you took
that photo. Yes, I mean this

671
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:23.760
is obviously we're joking here for the
people that aren't watching the Etheric Flying Saucer

672
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:30.280
in Ah, I mean that took
me two minutes to do. What did

673
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.960
you do there exactly? Okay,
So the background is a piece of wood.

674
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.599
Okay, the background is a piece
of wood that I turned up the

675
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:45.239
collar balance on the saturation and blurred
the background completely to look like the sky.

676
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:51.559
Then the UFO in the picture is
a oval shape that has been stretched

677
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:57.800
out and then the saturation and blurred
turned up all the way, and then

678
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:04.599
the occupancy of the shape turned down
about halfway. And there you go.

679
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.280
I mean, isn't this is imperfect? I mean if I were to have

680
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.079
like, give me like an hour
and yeah, you were just joking making

681
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.039
this. Yeah, it literally took
me two minutes before we started the show,

682
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.039
before you did your intro, I
was like, I'm going to make

683
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:21.000
something on my phone really quick.
Took me two minutes to make this.

684
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:25.840
If you give me an hour,
I could probably make it a hundred times

685
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:30.639
better than that. There are people
that do this for a living, I

686
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.159
think, and there are people that
do this just for fun, and that

687
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:43.599
certainly distorts legitimate videos and photographs of
things that we always get caught up on

688
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.920
this alien thing. It doesn't mean
they're alien, they're just unidentified. But

689
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:50.400
when people fake things and make things
up and then share faked and made up

690
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:55.199
things. It really sparages legitimate research, which is what in my opinion writer,

691
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.800
because we have to take a break
here in just about a minute.

692
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.159
That's one of the biggest issues I
have is that there are real good researchers,

693
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.039
there are real good pieces of data, and those researchers don't really get

694
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.079
to speak and the data doesn't really
get talked about or heard. Just like

695
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.800
my intro tonight on the Youngian angle
to all this, all that just gets

696
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:20.480
left to the wayside because it's more, it's more profitable, it's more people

697
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:24.039
pay attention to sensationalism and stuff like
that, and that's what we're trying to

698
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:28.719
change. Rider Lee is our guest
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699
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as I gave it to you.
So Rider, talking about this documentary will

760
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:39.719
go further than what we did in
the first hour. We've looked at the

761
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:45.119
blurry videos, We've looked at the
jellyfish UFO, We've looked at some of

762
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:49.159
the stuff that Jeremy Corpel and I'm
sincerely not trying to disparage the guy,

763
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.239
but he's shared a lot of stuff
that turns out to be fake. I've

764
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.679
asked him directly to walk back some
of the things that he shared that are

765
01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.760
fake, and he refused or just
chose not to do that. And there

766
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.840
are some other things about this documentary
that I think we should probably discuss.

767
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.599
I think some very simple things I
briefly mentioned last night. One of the

768
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:16.920
simplest is that just because somebody goes
and speaks before Congress doesn't mean that what's

769
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.960
being said is one true. It
doesn't mean that what's being said is within

770
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.800
context, especially when you cut up
hours and hours of testimony into small little

771
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:30.039
sound bites, And it doesn't mean
that even if the guy David Grush is

772
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:34.800
telling the truth and actually did see
or talk to the people who saw something

773
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.719
and didn't know what it was,
that doesn't mean that all the associated content

774
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:44.159
is also true. And a lot
of that associated content in the documentary are

775
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:50.239
just people's opinions of the possibilities of
aliens and what those aliens might be and

776
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.760
what those aliens are. So I
know you have some thoughts on that,

777
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:57.679
and I would like to discuss this
with you to start the hour really quickly.

778
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.480
Though, I have a correction to
make about the marine that saw the

779
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.800
footage of the jellyfish UFO that said
that it was twenty seventeen and that twenty

780
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:12.000
eighteen, I said that that Mick
West interviewed him and was not Micwest.

781
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:16.719
It was actually retweeted by another gentleman, Stephen green Street. But the person

782
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:25.800
that interviewed this marine, his name
is Brian Intin e In ti n Brian

783
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:30.800
Intin. And I just wanted to
make that correction there because people people are

784
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:38.400
afraid to make corrections about like what
they say. It's like almost forbidden,

785
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.360
Like they don't want to do it
because they think that it's going to like

786
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:46.880
somehow make them look like a fool. But it actually increases your credibility by

787
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:53.239
completely agree by going back and saying, hey, I got this wrong.

788
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:58.920
Wasn't this? It was something else? You know, Like that's what a

789
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:04.719
proper researcher and someone that's trying to
talk about the subject does. But nobody

790
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:11.719
does it. No one goes back
and says and reevaluates the things that they

791
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:18.719
said before, because I think somehow
it's going to hurt their reputation or ruin

792
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:25.599
their credibility, when it actually does
the opposite, actually gives you more credibility.

793
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:30.519
It makes you seem like an actual
good researcher. But your question about

794
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:41.840
Dave Grush. So I watched the
entire Congressional hearing, the entire four hourpets

795
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:47.280
Yeah, And what they did in
this documentary is they literally cut out almost

796
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:53.519
every single time that Dave Grush says
that he can't talk about this in the

797
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.199
public, that you got to get
into a skiff with him, or he

798
01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.800
can talk about it behind closed doors. It was like yes, yes answers,

799
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.880
like a congressman or a congresswoman could
be asking a question and then it

800
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:11.320
cuts to him just saying yes,
yes, yes, yes, like that's

801
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.440
it, and then that's supposed to
be taken as true. It's unbelievable.

802
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.559
And I did a show with Walter
Bosley and we actually cut down the Congressional

803
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:27.039
hearing to the best parts of like
thirty minutes, and I edited it all

804
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.760
down and we went over it.
And the thing that you need to know

805
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:42.480
about Dave Grush is one he says
in the congressional testimony, which is a

806
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:48.079
huge contradiction according to what he's seeing
now. He said it that he does

807
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:53.440
not have any personal first hand out
That's right. Yes, that's the big

808
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.800
red flag for me too. Go
ahead, no personal firsthand knowledge of any

809
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.000
of the stuff that he's talking about
it's all from people that he's talked to,

810
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:05.079
people that he's interviewed over a period
of time, secondhand stories. But

811
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:12.559
now Ryan, now he's seeing that
he has firsthand knowledge. And that was

812
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:15.519
in the documentary that clip of the
hearing. Correct. Yes, so he

813
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.320
saw it firsthand. Yes, And
he's doing these News Nation articles where he's

814
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:25.159
like, uh, finally, after
the congressional hearing is over, I can

815
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.760
I can finally talk about my first
hand knowledge. Well, you just said

816
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:34.079
under oath in front of Congress that
you don't have any firsthand knowledge. So

817
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:40.159
did you lie? You lied to
Congress and said that you didn't have any

818
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.039
firsthand knowledge of this stuff, that
it's all from documents and all the things

819
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:47.880
that you've uncovered and secondhand stories from
people that you've interviewed, you know what.

820
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.199
As a matter of fact, on
that note, I did a whole

821
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:58.079
show called UFO Thrift Shopping or UFO
Thrift Yet your UFO Thrift Shopping. I

822
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:01.599
had Jeremy Scott on and I talked
exactly about that because David Grush had said

823
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:05.440
that he was getting all this stuff
second third hand, and I was joking,

824
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:08.960
I said, he's got it like
forty fifth hand, forty sixth hand.

825
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.480
It's like all these different accounts of
he said, she said, he

826
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.639
said, or I think I even
played that clip from SpongeBob where Sponge was

827
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.560
like once I knew this guy who
knew this guy who knew the guy who

828
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:19.920
knew the guy who knew this guy
who knew this guy who knew this guy

829
01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:25.439
who knew this other guy, And
I did that show back in I don't

830
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:28.479
even remember the date of it.
I have to look it up here.

831
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.960
But that's that's that. I remember
that vividly because that's what he said.

832
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.760
It was back in May June seventh, twenty twenty three UFO thrift Shopping.

833
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:42.119
I'll actually upload that in the free
archive as a best of Can you actually

834
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.279
can you actually be a whistleblower?
Sorry right now I mean to interrupt,

835
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:53.159
but can you know that's a whistleblower
without having any firsthand knowledge? I don't.

836
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:55.560
I don't know. That's a really
great question. I don't know how

837
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:59.800
the laws work. I mean,
I suppose you could if you had some

838
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.399
record of information that, even if
you didn't see it or experience at firsthand,

839
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:06.960
you had some record of it.
But when you go back on what

840
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.119
you had originally said, I don't
have firsthand knowledge, and those those original

841
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:14.840
interviews, and then go to Congress
and be like, yeah, I saw

842
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.359
it firsthand. I experienced a firsthand
I mean that's yeah. It's first of

843
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.880
all, you're perjuring yourself to Congress. The second of all, the whole

844
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:27.680
euthological community, I think has forgotten
that. And that's that's a big piece

845
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.760
of the puzzle. Go ahead,
Yeah, you don't have any first hand

846
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.119
knowledge, and then now you have
a bunch of first hand knowledge, Like,

847
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:40.159
it doesn't make any sense. You're
lying that you have first hand knowledge,

848
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:43.439
or you're lying that you don't have
first adnand knowledge. Either way it

849
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.600
goes. You're not looking, you're
not shaping up very good. No,

850
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:59.000
And that's the whole crux of this
entire congressional hearing is that it's not based

851
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:06.800
on other than Ryan Graves. There. Now, I have heard that there

852
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:15.520
were supposed to have been two other
whistle blowers at this congressional hearing. No,

853
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.760
there's not any proof who did not
show up. There's not any proof

854
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:23.560
of this. This is just what
I've heard, right, It's just speculation.

855
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:28.039
So I don't there's not any evidence
that there was other two other whistleblowers

856
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.039
that were supposed to be there.
I'm just talking about it in conjecture with

857
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:34.319
you, right, there were supposed
to be two other whistleblowers that were supposed

858
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:39.520
to testify. There's supposed to have
been five people at that congressional hearing,

859
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:48.079
and they showed up and they were
in the audience. Can you guess who

860
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:58.520
those two other whistleblowers were that were
sitting right behind Dave Garage, Fravor and

861
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.960
graves h. I would take a
shot and say, maybe Jeremy was a

862
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:11.159
whistleblower. Jeremy Corbell and George Napp, we're supposed to be on this congressional

863
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:16.600
hearing as well. Apparently speculation,
no proof, no evidence. It's just

864
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:23.680
interesting, right, because these two
gentlemen also have no firsthand knowledge of this

865
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:31.239
stuff as well. They've been told
stories and then they tell other people stories

866
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:38.760
that these two people are pretty much
where they've Grush got all of his information

867
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:43.439
from. Where do you think all
these stories are coming from. They're all

868
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.760
coming from Jeremy Corbell and George Napp. And that's what I said earlier in

869
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:49.840
the first segment Tonight writer, You
and I talked about this off air yesterday.

870
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.960
The Jim Marsh wrote this in his
book Alien Agenda Too, that the

871
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:59.399
idea that Bob lass Are, if
he did work in any capacity in government,

872
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:04.000
was actually showing things and then sent
to quote the Robertson Panel report spread

873
01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:09.760
the gospel of UFOs and aliens in
the same way that Paul Bennowitz was showing

874
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:13.359
what Richard Dodie and the military wanted
him to see. So, if the

875
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:18.680
government is willing to deceive the average
person who has no connection to the military,

876
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:23.760
just average everyday folks who they're supposed
to work for, if you will,

877
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:29.800
theoretically, why would the military stop
with deceiving the public by infiltrating movies

878
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.600
and documentaries and high schools and using
Disney and all this stuff, using animateur

879
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:39.000
astronomers and UFO groups. Why wouldn't
they also find people in the military,

880
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:43.560
whether or not they have a history
of mental illness or they're just average everyday

881
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:47.520
military folks and show them things that
they can then go report to the world,

882
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:51.079
as you know, proof and evidence
that there are aliens, and that

883
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:56.680
helps to spread the disinformation that the
government wants to be spread regardless of what

884
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.880
the reason is for it. They
admittedly do that to citisen, why would

885
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:02.920
they not do that to military personnel
as well, Whether that's Bob Blazar,

886
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.239
David Grush, or anybody else does
that makes sense, makes one hundred percent

887
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:11.399
sense. And there's been so much
proof and evidence of people researching into Bob

888
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:14.920
Bazaar and showing that he never worked
at Area fifty one, he never worked

889
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:20.880
at US four. There's no documentation
of him being a scrubted having any going

890
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:25.239
to any of the colleges that he
said that he went to. He's not

891
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:28.800
in the college yearbook. He's not
a part of any of this. Now,

892
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:35.720
I do like your proposal that maybe
he was because he was a pretty

893
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:41.800
much a rocket scientist. He put
jut engine rockets on a car or a

894
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:46.199
truck or something, and maybe that
caught the attention of the people that were

895
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:51.399
trying to figure out this technology,
and then they brought him in for a

896
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:59.119
day randomly and was like, Hey, look at this stuff. What do

897
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.520
you think that it is. It's
not out of the realm of possibility that

898
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:06.680
they would do that. And then
he goes on about how he worked there

899
01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:11.960
for however long he says that he
worked there, but I still think that

900
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:16.079
it is maybe a possibility that he
was shown some of the stuff and then

901
01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.880
he just exaggerated it and then told
the story over and over again, and

902
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:25.079
then it became truth for him.
It becomes it's part of the new modern

903
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:29.000
myth. Yeah, But the only
person that has ever been able to verify

904
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:34.079
that Bob Blazar ever worked at Area
fifty one or at S four was Richard

905
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:39.840
Dody and Richard Dody. We know
who Richard Dody is. Richard Dory also

906
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:45.159
claimed that the alien autopsy video was
real. He claims the Skinny Bob video

907
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:51.840
was real, that he was shown
that in a briefing by the intelligence community.

908
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:58.920
So Richard Dody confirmed Bob Lazar.
Richard Doty confirmed the alien abduction Richard

909
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:04.399
Dody, who we know is admittedly
government this info. Richard Doty also confirmed

910
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:10.960
that Paul Benowitz was seeing UFOs and
not picking up signals from the military base.

911
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.319
So Richard Doty's in on all that. It's a common denominator. And

912
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:19.319
it also kind of makes sense that
there is something that I find kind of

913
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:24.119
interesting which is a different and I
don't want to take it too far off

914
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:28.279
track from this documentary better ah ahead. I think we have enough time to

915
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:33.840
cover everything that we need to cover. But there is an interesting aspect of

916
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:40.079
Bobblesar story that I think really gets
looked over a lot. And I'm going

917
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:46.479
to be doing the show on this
soon next week that's going to be titled

918
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:53.439
The Events of nineteen forty seven.
But there's an interesting thing that bobbles Are

919
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:59.279
says that is also echo through other
maybe fake documents, maybe real documents,

920
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.439
who really knows, Like the Wilson
document. I'm sure you're familiar with the

921
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.560
Wilson document. Half the community says
that it's fake, half the community says

922
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:12.439
it's real. Richard Dolan thinks that
it's real. He's in the TMZ documentary's

923
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:16.079
saying that it was real, just
like Majestic twelve, Just like Majestic twelve.

924
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:25.520
So one of those documents was confirmed
came from Richard Doty's computer tracked by

925
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:30.840
his IP address, and another one
came from Stephen Grier's IP address that it

926
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:32.560
came from as well. I'm not
sure which one. Don't quote me,

927
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:41.880
but the thing that Bob strikes me
interesting about Bob Azar's whole entire testimony as

928
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:46.239
he said that one of the craft
that he saw, he was under the

929
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:55.760
impression that it was dug up,
that it was found in a archaeologic gold

930
01:16:55.800 --> 01:17:01.600
dig the craft, the craft,
and then when you look at the Wilson

931
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:09.640
document, it doesn't say anything about
that. This the Wilson document says,

932
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:15.399
Oh, well, we think that
this craft can fly, which doesn't mean

933
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.319
that it can fly. They've never
seen it fly. It's not operational.

934
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:27.560
And then that gets into all this
whole theory and this idea of what is

935
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:32.680
a crash retrieval? What is a
what is a crash retrieval? What does

936
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:39.239
that actually mean? Is the whole
name and the whole term crash retrieval a

937
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:44.439
misnomer. Well, crash retrieval could
be crashed and down the Soviet planes,

938
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.600
It could be crashed and down foreign
adversary satellites. Crash retrieval of what anything

939
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.600
could crash? A satellite could crash, an experimental plane could crash, a

940
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:58.800
commercial airliner could crash. Yeah,
so what is the definition of a crash

941
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:02.720
retrieval? Right? Like, what
are they meaning by crash retrieval? Are

942
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:08.720
they? Because I think that the
standard thought and standard idea that goes along

943
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:14.640
when people say crash retrieval, they
think that it's something of recent times,

944
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:18.119
right, they think whenever they think
crash retrieval, they think, you know,

945
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.319
people in the community think that that
are aware of the stuff, that

946
01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:28.479
someone saw this craft fall out of
the sky, it's a modern thing,

947
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:33.279
or they they found it, they
saw it on radar, and then they

948
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:38.960
went to the location where they had
heard reports of it going down, like

949
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:42.640
an episode of the X Files,
when that might not be the case,

950
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:50.279
might not. I think I think
the whole crash retrieval thing is a huge

951
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:57.039
misnomer. I don't think they it's
a what they what people think that it

952
01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:02.720
is, just like people whenever people
say space, they think they're talking about

953
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:06.479
outer space, right when it's not
that. We talked about that the last

954
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:10.720
time on the show. But I
just thought that I would interject that in

955
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:16.560
there because I think that that's a
really good possibility and a really cool thing

956
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:26.720
to think about, that maybe the
crash retrieval thing isn't what it's been made

957
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.399
out to be. And then when
you look at the Kecksburg event in nineteen

958
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:33.960
sixty five, you know what was
that was that a crash retrieval? Was

959
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:43.319
that a foreign satellite. Was that
a advanced technology that the government was working

960
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.279
on with the project paper Clip Germans
that they brought over. It did look

961
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:55.359
like gla. Yeah, doctor Farrell's
probably the originator of that theory. I

962
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.640
wanted to, you know, give
him a shout out on that. But

963
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:08.199
you know, the terminology that we
use could be used to describe something completely

964
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:13.359
different in order to throw people off
the base of the entire phenomenon. I

965
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:15.279
completely agree. In fact, that's
the first thing I said when I started

966
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:19.439
to hear in twenty seventeen, twenty
eighteen about UAPs. When you ask the

967
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:25.640
government, now, i'd like documents
on UFOs with a FOIA request, the

968
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:30.239
government says, we don't have UFO
documents. Now it's called UAPs, And

969
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.239
it's like, it's funny, It's
totally totally serious. That's how that's how

970
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.119
it works. It's like actually,
as a matter of fact, another good

971
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:41.680
example is in like in terms of
law, like if you were to request

972
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.600
an exemption for something at work under
the Civil Rights Act. Let's say,

973
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:47.960
for example, going back to the
pandemic. I'm not an attorney, but

974
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.479
I learned how to get people out
of certain mandates and how I got myself

975
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:56.239
out of certain things. You can't
write I request this exemption for religious or

976
01:20:56.239 --> 01:21:00.159
whatever the reason is. You have
to say, I declare my exemption and

977
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.560
under and then quote the law and
then sign it. That's how we got

978
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.600
out of doing the things that were
mandated, because you have to declare it

979
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:11.560
rather than request it. Request means
they can deny it. One single word

980
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:15.920
can make a drastic difference. UFO
UAP. We don't have UFO research.

981
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:20.880
What are you a conspiracy theorist?
We'll get UAPs though, And that's how

982
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:26.199
it works. That's exactly how it
works. And I do want to get

983
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:29.039
back to the documentary here a little
bit, because there was a lot of

984
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:34.000
things that was covered in the third
episode. A lot of theories were tossed

985
01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:42.239
around, included the age old theory
that extraterrestrials are us from the future that

986
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:46.960
is coming back in time. That
whole thing that I think started with some

987
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:55.359
UFO cults, and Kathy O'Brien actually
talks talked about that she was hearing this

988
01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:02.800
back in the eighties from people within
her circle, that they were talking about

989
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:10.279
that these extraterrestrials are from the future, these great aliens are from the future

990
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:15.520
and they're coming back in time to
do whatever genetic manipulations alterations because they screwed

991
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:20.760
up their DNA or whatever and they
need our DNA or repair their their their

992
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:28.359
cellular physical body and all that garbage
nonsense. And then they get into the

993
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:34.520
military aspect of it. And then
which I've been telling people, I've been

994
01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:44.439
telling people this for almost a year
now that the next direction that this phenomenon

995
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.760
is going to go. I've been
telling people this on my show that the

996
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:58.560
next direction that we're heading with this
phenomenon is USOS underwater submergible objects. There's

997
01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:00.520
reference to that in the documentary,
correct, And that was one of the

998
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:08.399
last things that they mentioned in this
documentary. And I was like, I

999
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:15.079
told you, guys, told everyone
that this is the next thing, and

1000
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:20.560
I guarantee you it's going to be
a bit because they get into well,

1001
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:27.439
well, if you wanted to hide
from the population, would you not just

1002
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.359
go under water? If there's a
big natural disaster and you wanted to not

1003
01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:35.600
be affected, would you not just
go underwater? Your chances of survival is

1004
01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:42.279
increased if you go fifteen miles down
into the earth underwater. That you would

1005
01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:45.920
be safe from natural disasters or anything
happening to the planet. And if you

1006
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:51.000
were an extraterrestrial race, would you
wanted to hide from the population, would

1007
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.199
you really want to be on land, would you have a land base,

1008
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:59.640
or would you be underwater? And
that gets into the crypto terrestrial theory.

1009
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:02.920
They kind of brought that up as
well, but they brought up on they

1010
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:10.600
just threw a freaking they made one
of your burritos. They made a huge

1011
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:15.800
burrito, dude, they made an
extraterrestrial burrito out of that. Uh that

1012
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.399
third episode, they were just throwing
shit at the wall, dude. What

1013
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:25.399
if is this? What if?
What if they're extraterrestrial alien hybrids and they

1014
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.520
look exactly like us, and they're
walking around, they're they're amongst us,

1015
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:31.720
And then you get those close up
shouts of Jeremy Corbell and and they're here,

1016
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:40.159
They've always been here, you know, and it gets people, you

1017
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:44.960
know, thinking in that direction.
And they just threw a bunch of stuff

1018
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:46.359
at the wall, dude, and
I'm just saying, Holy c this just

1019
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:50.840
completely went off. The rails went
off, the rails so hard. I

1020
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:55.119
agree with you towards the end,
especially it wasn't awful, but at the

1021
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:57.760
end it kind of went off the
rails. Or maybe they could have done

1022
01:24:57.800 --> 01:24:59.640
it differently. I don't know.
It's not for me to say, but

1023
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:04.439
I've thought if there is a physically
manifest them, like we're talking about a

1024
01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:11.960
species or multiple species, If there
is a physically manifest them and they look

1025
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:17.279
kind of like us, then perhaps
we're dealing with projections of the different levels

1026
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.800
of the body etheric, astrail,
mental, etc. And that's why they're

1027
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:27.920
often described as being very human like, because they're always described in the stories

1028
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:31.960
and abductions as coming from other places, whatever that other place is, and

1029
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:38.239
they're concerned with pollution, they're concerned
with military activity, they're concerned with nuclear

1030
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:43.800
weapons. Well, these are giant
things that humans are also very very concerned

1031
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:48.119
with. So we have things or
beings that look like us. They seem

1032
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.800
to in some capacity mirror our advances
in technology, because uphos used to be

1033
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:58.399
shields and pillars and boats, and
now they're spaceships. Right around the time

1034
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.760
we decide we're going to have space
advancements and we're going to go to the

1035
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:04.680
moon and all this during the Cold
War, big tension over nuclear weapons and

1036
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:10.000
we still have that today, we're
seeing things that look like us and things

1037
01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:15.399
that seem to be concerned with the
same things we're concerned with. I think

1038
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:19.800
they're psychic projections of the different levels
of the human body, and we're projecting

1039
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:25.000
our unconscious, subconscious, and conscious
fears of the end of the world,

1040
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:29.920
nuclear weapons, pollution, etc.
Onto these beans. I'm not saying that

1041
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.479
describes and explains the whole thing,
but I think it's a much more reasonable,

1042
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:41.880
rational, logical, and universally,
I think could be accepted theory of

1043
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:45.359
what this is that we're dealing with, as opposed to just being like,

1044
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:46.920
well, they're aliens. They're walking
around. They look like us, and

1045
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:49.560
they eat us and they rape us, and they take our kids, and

1046
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:53.840
they're aliens and they look like us, and they just repeat the same thing

1047
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:56.079
over and over and over and over
and over again. How many times we're

1048
01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:59.119
going to hear these same stories over
and over and over again. It doesn't

1049
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:01.079
lead us anywhere, But the people
that keep saying that stuff make a lot

1050
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:04.640
of money, a lot of UFO
cash, a lot of UFO monopoly men,

1051
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:10.279
and I'm personally sick and tired of
it. Well, we also get

1052
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:19.600
in the documentary and Dave Grash trying
to explain the Congress quantum theory and it's,

1053
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:23.760
uh, it's laughable. He's like, oh, well, you know

1054
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:30.680
how three D body cast a two
D shadow, while the extra dimensional non

1055
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:39.520
biologic beings can teleport and project their
body into two D space time. And

1056
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:43.600
that's what we're seeing with crystals,
crystals and emeralds and all kinds of gems.

1057
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:48.399
And yeah, you just stick the
quartz crystal into your rectum and then

1058
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:57.239
you supercharge. Yeah, it just
attracts aliens to aliens super saye. They're

1059
01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:01.239
like, yo, like, if
you can insert that large crystal into his

1060
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:06.039
rock them, then he can definitely
take our probe. Dude, he's already.

1061
01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:11.239
He's ready, Dude, he's ready. And you know that the shamans

1062
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.800
that used to go or I mean
still do, but probably nothing like the

1063
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:18.000
old old world. Tens of thousands
of years ago, shamans would be implanted

1064
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:24.600
with stones and crystals as well.
That was the alien implant tens of thousands,

1065
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:30.600
like thirty thousand years before alien implants
were a thing. Bend over and

1066
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:35.840
cough, dude, we gotta get
that alien and plan out dog. A

1067
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:38.640
lot of times they put you know, a lot of times they put him

1068
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.960
in the It's interesting they put him
in the head sometimes, kind of like

1069
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.640
where that third eye is where the
Hindus where the Bindi and the Japanese traditionally

1070
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:50.000
refer to themselves by pointing right here. It's a very common thing theme around

1071
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:53.760
the world. So the aliens put
the stone right there and the third eye.

1072
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:59.399
This is all inner space stuff.
Inner space stuff. It's not happening

1073
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:01.039
out there. I mean, maybe
it is, but I think it's happening.

1074
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:08.880
It's happening in here. Yeah.
Isn't there a TV show the Crystal

1075
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:14.920
Crystal Goblins or something like that.
I don't know, Crystal Space Alien Goblin

1076
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:17.479
Alliance. Yeah, there's something like
that that they all have, like the

1077
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:24.319
germ or the ruby on their forehead. Every new age girl I've ever seen

1078
01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:27.239
has one of those on her forehead
with a crystal crown with a bunch of

1079
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:31.640
jewels hanging off of it. And
another thing. Do these people that are

1080
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:38.600
remote viewing suppose like, okay,
you please describe this because I want I

1081
01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:41.199
was just about to bring this up. I want to know about the remote

1082
01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:45.840
viewing of the Miami Mall Aliens and
other aliens. Because this is this is

1083
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:47.800
riveting and groundbreaking, and this is
not a joke. This is real.

1084
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:54.279
Yeah, people have been doing this. People are claiming that they have remote

1085
01:29:54.359 --> 01:30:02.600
viewed the Mall alien, the eight
foot the ten foot creatures that were spotted

1086
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:06.319
at the Miami Mall. And you
don't have to give a name, but

1087
01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:12.239
I'm quite sure one of the people
was Lily Nova selling this nonsense garbage.

1088
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.680
And that's the whole thing of this. Like you, that's not how remote

1089
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:21.840
viewing works. Nope, if you
know the target that you're remote viewing,

1090
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:30.680
it is invalid. That's why all
remote viewers that have been trained in remote

1091
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:35.680
viewing know that you have to do
it blind. That's the whole purpose of

1092
01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:42.560
the coordinate. The coordinate isn't real. The coordinate is actually a fake coordinate.

1093
01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:47.800
But if you know what you're remote
viewing, then your subconscious mind can

1094
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:54.680
implant things into your head. Memory
can be inserted. That's why SRI did

1095
01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:58.520
all of these studies, and that's
why Ingo Swann came up with the version

1096
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:04.199
of remote viewing this called blind remote
viewing. Sometimes the person that is even

1097
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:11.520
giving the the coordinate to the remove
viewer doesn't even know the target. That's

1098
01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:15.600
right. Yes, you can't know
the target of what you're remote viewing.

1099
01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:18.760
It makes the entire thing invalid.
Dude, these people because I had a

1100
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.520
friend call me, my friend Mike
d who's been co hosting with me for

1101
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:24.960
years. He hasn't been on the
show for about it for probably a year

1102
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:27.119
and a half, but he called
me up and he's like, I saw

1103
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:30.960
this person online and they were saying
that they contacted the Miami Mall aliens.

1104
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.920
They and they were told they were
part of the Galactic Federation. And then

1105
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:36.000
I told you that and you said, oh yeah, and you sent me

1106
01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:41.199
this the Lily Nova video, who
I've asked dozens and dozens of times on

1107
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:45.960
Facebook to provide the evidence or proof
for when she shares something, I'm like,

1108
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.680
like, in all sincerity, Lily, that is a cloud. That's

1109
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:53.640
not an alien spaceship. That is
a cloud. You must have watched Nope,

1110
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:57.239
you know, and it's just like
it's so ridiculous. But she acts

1111
01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.520
and others act like they just pick
up their cell phone like I'm going to

1112
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:02.880
find out I want to dial right
now one eight hundred, you know information,

1113
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.119
And they say, yes, who
would you like to connect with I'd

1114
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:08.960
like to talk to the ma All
Aliens please, and then they just could

1115
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.439
get holding one moment, please and
then they connect them all. We're the

1116
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.600
All Aliens. This is Lily Nova. I want to know what you were

1117
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:16.560
doing with that mall down there,
and they were a part of the Galactic

1118
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:23.840
Federation, ma'am. It's just so
effing ridiculous. You don't just nobody can

1119
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:26.800
even prove it. It's not even
like they're like prove that there's even anything

1120
01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:30.079
but a blurry picture of what someone
said, this is what you're looking at

1121
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:32.960
a Geiger alien and then Lily Nova
can just call the Aliens on the phone.

1122
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:35.319
I am so sick of it,
dude, I want to just like

1123
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:41.880
pull my hair out. Yeah,
and then the whole thing falls apart when

1124
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:45.399
you realize, like what I was
mentioning, that that's not the way the

1125
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:51.199
remote viewing works. Can you just
pick a target yourself and then remote view

1126
01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:56.279
it and expect to actually know what's
going on there? You know what I

1127
01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:00.079
told her? The way that it
works. I told her I contact to

1128
01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:03.680
the All Aliens and they said that
she was lying. That's the way you

1129
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:09.159
combat it. Who did you talk
to you talked to the Brotherhood of Lia

1130
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:15.640
the thirty three Galactic Federation of Confederated
Planets, the Great Great White Brotherhood of

1131
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:20.000
Mount Shasta was the Great Wright Brotherhood
of Ashtar Galactic Command actually, and they

1132
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:25.039
they confirmed that they were not at
the mall. Those were impostors at the

1133
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:29.359
mall. They were actually they were
actually at Area fifty one while these aliens

1134
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:31.199
were running around the mall. So, oh wow, that must have been

1135
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:36.760
the breakaway group of the Dark Federation. You got it. Yeah, they

1136
01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:41.359
have bases all over the Earth,
in the ocean and one under the White

1137
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:46.479
House. And yeah, wow,
that's incredible. The Galactic Federation of Ashtark

1138
01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:53.800
Command normally has has good information,
so the right right people, Well,

1139
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:58.159
the White Brotherhood of the Galactic Federation
of Ashtark Commands a little different. Sorry,

1140
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.600
I'm not familiar with them. It's
a new one I just made up.

1141
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:05.279
So, in all seriousness, though, you're totally right, that's not

1142
01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:10.199
how remote viewing works. And even
if it were kind of how remote viewing

1143
01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:15.359
works, the ludicrous nature of claiming
that, oh I just contacted the hashtag

1144
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:21.760
Miami Mall aliens and I talked to
them. Who believes that I guess a

1145
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:27.520
lot of people somehow because Lily Nova
has a has a has a fake eyeball

1146
01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:33.600
on her head so she can talk
to the aliens. It's like thousands of

1147
01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:41.039
views like their their YouTube channels are
like blowing up. They're selling this stuff

1148
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:46.239
like it's you know, sour dough
bro and and that means the algorithm allows

1149
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:48.800
it. So that goes back to
what I was saying and what you were

1150
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:53.439
saying. We were talking about how
the public has openly been used by the

1151
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:58.000
military and intelligence community to spread this
info. Military does this to their same

1152
01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:01.279
people, probably David Grush, possibly
Bob Lazar, not that he was necessarily

1153
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:05.279
in the military and the same capacity. But also they would do this with

1154
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:11.680
you know, algorithms and allowing the
algorithms or allowing people's things, like Lilly

1155
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:15.800
Novan wrote, viewers and all these
people channelers to have their stuff promoted and

1156
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.920
have people asking questions to be censored
and dialed back. So they have algorithms

1157
01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:24.600
social media. Then you have another
thing you have And I learned this in

1158
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:28.560
film school. I told you this
on the phone the other day. It

1159
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:31.000
wasn't a class on this, but
we had a film class. We were

1160
01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:35.680
studying in the class actually the works
of Christopher Nolan, and there was a

1161
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:40.640
day we started to look at some
other just kind of more random movies,

1162
01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:46.119
and Transformers came up and we were
talking about transformers and how transformers in order

1163
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:53.239
to use the aircraft carriers and the
military planes and the helicopters and whatnot.

1164
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:58.920
This well, the studio, the
director, everybody that worked on it,

1165
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:02.119
Michael Bay, who directed it.
Michael Bay has to get permission from the

1166
01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:08.039
Pentagon. And so when they submit
the Transformer script. Again this was in

1167
01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:11.439
film school we learned this. They
submit the script, the Pentagon has to

1168
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.039
sign off on it. Now,
I don't know exactly how it works.

1169
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.079
I don't think Michael Bay flew to
Washington and gave the Pentagon a script and

1170
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.279
said here, what do you think
of it. It's a little different than

1171
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:21.039
that. Michael Bay might not have
been involved at all. But the script

1172
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:24.680
gets sent. The military looks at
it and they say, you want to

1173
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:26.880
use these planes, you want to
use this boat, you want to get

1174
01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:30.880
shots of this and that, we'll
have flyovers whatever. It's all partly military

1175
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:36.800
propaganda, but the military gets to
decide, hmm, maybe we can add

1176
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.920
something to this script, we're going
to add these lines in this dialogue,

1177
01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.920
or we're going to add this background
scene or whatever, or we're going to

1178
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:45.720
take something out that we don't like. And if you don't like what they

1179
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:49.960
add or take away, you don't
get the approval from the Pentagon. That's

1180
01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:54.680
how scripts work, even if there's
no intention behind the people that write the

1181
01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:57.039
scripts to do that or to make
the movies, that's how they work.

1182
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:02.600
So everything from movies to the citizens
that have UFO groups, to military personnel

1183
01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:11.119
to algorithms controls our perception of the
UFO phenomenon. And that also is very

1184
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:15.000
similar to what happened with Stanley Kubrick. He actually went to the military to

1185
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:24.039
use a stealth bomber plane for I
think that it was Doctor Strangelove. I

1186
01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:29.199
would have to look it up,
and they didn't accept it. But he

1187
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:34.920
figured out what the inside of the
cockpit of the plane that was not public

1188
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.680
information at all. No one knew
what the inside of the cockpit of the

1189
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:47.079
plane looked like besides military personnel,
and he basically duplicated it verbatim. And

1190
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:54.000
when the movie came out with the
footage of the cockpit of this plane,

1191
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.920
the intelligence community in the military contact, and it was like, how did

1192
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:05.119
you get this, like, we're
very happy they yeah, they weren't.

1193
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:14.960
And to think that the military or
the through lot of organizations isn't doing things

1194
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:23.039
like this is foolish because they absolutely
are. I mean, any kind of

1195
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:28.920
military craft that you use in your
in your movies or anything, it has

1196
01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:34.439
to be approved. Like you just
can't be using military aircraft or military tanks

1197
01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:39.640
or any of that without approval from
the government or from the military. And

1198
01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:42.760
that includes what they want to cut
or add to the script. And I

1199
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:45.680
don't I don't know how strict it
is, but that is essentially how it

1200
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:48.880
works. And I can I'm wondering. I want to ask you this right

1201
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:51.840
around, wondering what you think and
how you would respond to this question.

1202
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:57.399
You know, obviously the public has
been duped. There's documentation of how the

1203
01:38:57.399 --> 01:39:01.239
military intelligence communities wanted to do that. There's been fake documents produced, the

1204
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:06.520
military has shown personnel in the military
fake things. The algorithms promote people that

1205
01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:11.680
are fake remote viewers, and all
that movie scripts are edited and altered so

1206
01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:15.920
that you want approval of this particular
craft or you want this shot, well,

1207
01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:18.399
you have to allow the military to
adjust what your script says. So

1208
01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:25.279
in factor all that in, why
would the military, and I don't think

1209
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:29.000
it's a large group of people,
it's just kind of a policy. Why

1210
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:32.800
would certain agencies going back to the
early fifties, why would they be so

1211
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:44.760
invested in convincing the public that this
phenomenon is maybe more of something other than

1212
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:47.279
what it actually is. Because there's
something there that the military and government has

1213
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:51.439
acknowledged for a very long time.
We don't need recent hearings to tell us

1214
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:56.479
that that we've known since the fifties
even before that, with food fighters and

1215
01:39:56.479 --> 01:40:00.600
ghost rockets and things like that.
So what do you think is the reason

1216
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:08.359
behind all this highly sophisticated and very
intentional dis and misinformation from documents to military

1217
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:13.199
personnel, the movie scripts, to
algorithms, to the Bernasian if you will,

1218
01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:17.119
Bernaesian propaganda that's been employed. What's
behind all this? Well? I

1219
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:21.479
think that a guy completely out of
hand, and there isn't shutting a lid

1220
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:24.680
on it, because if you were
to shut a lid on it, then

1221
01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:29.720
that would just infuriate people more and
make more outlandish claims and more conspiracy theories

1222
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:34.319
and more conjecture and hyperbole. And
I think that what happened was was with

1223
01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:42.399
the Mirage Men documentary that you were
mentioning earlier, with the Air Force military

1224
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:45.960
special agents going in and convincing Paul
Benewitz of what he was seeing was actually

1225
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:53.359
extraterrestrials and all that information getting spread, the NSSAY breaking into Paul Benowitz's house,

1226
01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:58.239
making him and replacing his computer with
a different computer, making him believe

1227
01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:00.920
that he's in contact with aliens,
and all the things that the aliens said

1228
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:04.119
to him, or some of the
very things that are still regurgitated to this

1229
01:41:04.239 --> 01:41:08.279
very day. And I think that
they got so out of hand, Brian,

1230
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:16.439
that they couldn't keep going on with
that UFOs aren't real, that extraterrestrials

1231
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:23.239
aren't real, because they created this
this wave of people that were going to

1232
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:28.840
believe it regardless of what you said. So they had to kind of go

1233
01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:31.119
back on that. And then that's
when we seen the New York Times document

1234
01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:36.439
with these craft. And that's another
thing too, is probably a big part

1235
01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:45.439
of it was they hadn't quite figured
it out yet either. They yes,

1236
01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:53.840
they hadn't quite perfected the technology to
where they wanted it, and they didn't

1237
01:41:53.840 --> 01:42:00.279
want people knowing about it until they
knew until they had perfected it, and

1238
01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.000
they had figured it out, and
they could use it anytime that they wanted.

1239
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:12.399
That way, later on they can
release the military technology or have you

1240
01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:19.920
know, leaked video of supposed UFOs
and supposed UAPs to the public, and

1241
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:25.000
then they can turn around and call
them UFOs. They might not have been

1242
01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:31.720
able to do that back during Paul
Benowitz's time. Whenever you've seen that they

1243
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:40.880
advanced Kraft because it wasn't as sophisticated
as it is now. So therefore they

1244
01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.279
had to switch their position because it
got so out of hand, the mythology

1245
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:51.560
and the theories got so out of
hand. If they would have kept on

1246
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:58.640
with all well, none of it's
real, it's not extraterrestrials like they have

1247
01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:02.199
said for decades and decades and decades, and none of these things are extraterrestrials.

1248
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:08.920
They would have kept on that route
with all these UFO conferences springing up

1249
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:15.199
in thousands of people, supposed sightings, suppose super rass blurry videos and photos

1250
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:19.640
of UFOs that people have been taken
for decades now. If they would have

1251
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:26.199
kept up seeing that none of it's
real. Then they would have like a

1252
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:33.479
much bigger problem that if they came
out and said that, yes, there

1253
01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:41.239
are an identified flying objects. Now, they've never said that aliens exist.

1254
01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:46.079
They've never said that extraterrestrials exist.
They've said these craft outmaneuver our craft.

1255
01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:49.239
And they said that back in the
fifties. Yep, that was back in

1256
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:53.640
the fifties. Top military officials,
these they outmaneuver our craft. We don't

1257
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:56.279
know what to do, and they
do. Seventies someventhing years later they do

1258
01:43:56.319 --> 01:44:00.760
the same thing. Hey, but
again it's a misnomer, rights misnomer.

1259
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:05.399
They come out and say the exact
same thing. But it's been planted in

1260
01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:15.880
people's heads since Bill Moore's book on
Roswell that extraterrestrials and aliens exist, and

1261
01:44:15.199 --> 01:44:21.119
UFOs are associated with extraterrestrials and aliens. So therefore, whenever the government government

1262
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:26.920
comes out and says that your UFOs
are real, people automatically associate that with

1263
01:44:27.079 --> 01:44:30.079
extra trestrials and they get it in
their head that, oh, well,

1264
01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:33.359
if UFOs are real and the government
are seeing the UFOs are real, then

1265
01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:41.479
they're also confirming that extraterrestrials and aliens
are real when they never said that.

1266
01:44:41.479 --> 01:44:46.159
That's exactly I completely agree with you. I think that's a great summary,

1267
01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:50.840
and I've said that for years in
another capacity. Yes, UFOs are unidentified

1268
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:57.319
objects. You identify them, they're
not unidentified anymore. The Blue Book Project,

1269
01:44:57.319 --> 01:45:01.479
for example, said ten percent or
unidentified. Just because they're unidentified doesn't

1270
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.000
mean they're aliens. In the same
way that with this UAP report, the

1271
01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:11.079
Preliminary Assessment a couple of years ago
that came out, they said they might

1272
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:14.720
fall into one of these five or
so categories. And I read this on

1273
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:17.880
the show last night. We looked
at X number of cases which easily can

1274
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:23.399
be cherry picked. We couldn't identify
a majority of them. But just because

1275
01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:26.720
you can't identify something doesn't mean that
it's aliens. That would be like saying,

1276
01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:30.800
you know, you see a bug
scurrying across your floor, you can't

1277
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:33.760
identify what it is, it must
be an alien bug. No, But

1278
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:39.920
if you get someone who knows what
spiders or what spiders maybe I don't know,

1279
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.960
someone who's an expert in that,
or someone who just knows their insects,

1280
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.119
So like, no, that's a
datty long legs, that's a black

1281
01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:47.399
widow, or that's whatever, it's
not it's not an alien. Yeah,

1282
01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:50.159
absolutely, that's Oh my god,
that's so ridiculous. I get so worked

1283
01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:54.079
up about this. Man. I
just want to like pull my hair out,

1284
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.159
or I don't know, I want
to smash something. I just get

1285
01:45:56.239 --> 01:45:58.760
like, really, I'm like the
Alex Jones of the UFOs. I just

1286
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.159
want to smash something. You know, you need to go to one of

1287
01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:06.319
those places called where you can just
smash, smash, smashroom, Like,

1288
01:46:06.439 --> 01:46:11.680
and why are you here today,
Lily Nova and these alien David Wilcock people.

1289
01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:17.680
Is I gotta I gotta break something
that salty about UFO and alien miss

1290
01:46:17.680 --> 01:46:21.159
and disinformation. Yeah, I am, because it makes my job harder.

1291
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:24.479
And people look at me like,
are you one of those weird alien conspiracs?

1292
01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:28.039
I I bet you believe the aliens
are at the mall, don't you?

1293
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:31.439
No, Hey, I want to
ask you something else. Have you

1294
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.520
heard the newest this is not a
joke. Have you heard the newest claim

1295
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:43.640
today from David Crush? If it
wasn't in the documentary, then I have

1296
01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:45.479
not heard it. What is it? Unless I blanked on this part.

1297
01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:49.840
No, this is a news release. There's a couple of these from last

1298
01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:56.199
night, so I guess technically he
said this the other day. If they

1299
01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:00.680
refer to him as a former US
intelligence officer, sounds very formal. He

1300
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:08.079
claimed in a meeting that was secret
with the CIA, FBI and a number

1301
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:15.199
of newspapers that there was a twelve
meter alien craft that the government is hiding.

1302
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:23.039
He said it was quote size of
a football field. So the new

1303
01:47:23.079 --> 01:47:26.920
claim is that now there's a UFO
that is the size of a football field

1304
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.640
that is being hidden. But for
some reason, he had to tell people

1305
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:40.039
this behind the scenes, and then
somehow a secret meeting behind the scenes involves

1306
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:45.399
members of the press, who then
publish that secret information. He wasn't authorized

1307
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:49.640
to divulge to the public, but
he can tell people behind the scenes,

1308
01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:53.680
and the media can be there to
then divulge it to the public. Something

1309
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:58.399
is not right about this, Well, one, how do you transport a

1310
01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:03.239
UFO size of a football field?
How do you what? How do you

1311
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:06.880
trans transport it? Maybe? How
do you get it from point A to

1312
01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:11.199
point B? Maybe it's flying right
now? Maybe it's maybe maybe because he

1313
01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:14.359
didn't say it was crash or the
military has it in the sense that they're

1314
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:17.720
moving and around. Maybe the maybe
the craft is still flying. I mean,

1315
01:48:17.720 --> 01:48:20.800
I got to look through this whole
article here, but yeah, maybe

1316
01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:27.159
maybe it's still flying around. And
maybe it's like an Independence Day big space.

1317
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:29.439
Maybe he watched Independence Day of the
night and it's like, all right,

1318
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:31.560
we're going to add that into it. It's a size of a football

1319
01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:38.079
field. I'm thinking like a rectangular
one hundred yard rectangular UFO. It's like

1320
01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:42.800
a giant, just giant, flat, rectangular thing like like kind of like

1321
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:45.760
a MoMA moa. Maybe I don't
know what the hell is going on because

1322
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:48.319
this this just doesn't make any sense. He has to say, oh,

1323
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:53.079
all this stuff in private, but
then he's in private, and then newspapers

1324
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:58.079
are there, but it's top secret
that he doesn't have authorization to tell Congress

1325
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.760
otherwise or to tell the people.
But then the new news papers get the

1326
01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:02.439
secret access and they can tell the
people because they're all in on it.

1327
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:06.159
It's all a big scam to drive
clicks and clout and cash and dis and

1328
01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:12.479
misinform the public. But that doesn't
mean aliens aren't real totally separate things.

1329
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:20.079
So spaceship size of a football field, Yes, sir, What other craft

1330
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:30.479
do we have in the military there
would even resemble the size of a football

1331
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:33.239
field. I don't know. I
don't know either. I don't think there

1332
01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:41.920
is one besides like navel ships.
Now that one of the original sources of

1333
01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:44.520
this, of course, is a
newspaper, you can't trust. You want

1334
01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:47.560
to take a guess who the newspaper
wosepaper was. It's one of those ones

1335
01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:53.520
that you definitely wouldn't trust to tell
you the time this was the metro out

1336
01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:57.880
of the uk Ah, though you
know it's probably fake. I mean,

1337
01:49:58.359 --> 01:50:01.880
they report real things, but you
don't know who to trust. You have

1338
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:08.159
fake newspapers, tabloids, newspapers that
are pushed by the military and pushed by

1339
01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:12.279
the government to promote certain things,
to censor certain things. They're just not

1340
01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:15.600
a four fourth branch of government.
They just are one of the branches of

1341
01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.199
or they are part of each one
of the branches of government. They do

1342
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:24.399
exactly what they're told. Most of
these newspapers, I don't know who to

1343
01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:28.199
trust, and I don't think that
I don't think it's very easy to figure

1344
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:30.920
out what in all of this is
real or not. And I think that's

1345
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:34.079
probably the best way to look at
it, to observe. Got about nine

1346
01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:41.439
minutes left here just to observe all
this stuff without wanting to believe in it,

1347
01:50:42.039 --> 01:50:44.479
because the more you want to believe
in this, or the more you

1348
01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:46.159
want to disbelieve it, the more
you're going to get taken for a ride

1349
01:50:46.239 --> 01:50:53.920
by somebody somewhere who's profiting off of
this energetically or financially or both. A

1350
01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:59.039
former US intelligence officer has claimed that
the government is hiding an unidentified flying object

1351
01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:02.199
UFO the size of a football field. Dave Grush made the claim at a

1352
01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:08.920
top secret presentation attended by officials from
the CIA, FBI UK based Metro said.

1353
01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:18.640
Mister Grush said at the event that
the twelve alien craft is twelve tard

1354
01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:23.680
lock like, I don't know what
that means. The metroports sat. Around

1355
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:28.800
sixty people were president at the event
in New York Penthouse, which was hosted

1356
01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:38.920
by cryptocurrency advisor John D. A. Garston and lawyer John Jay altur Leany,

1357
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:44.000
Wow, that's incredible, dude.
Wow, they need to wheel that

1358
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:51.039
size of a football field UFO out
in front of Congress so everybody can see.

1359
01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:55.039
That's what I'm waiting on. That's
what I want to happen. That's

1360
01:51:55.039 --> 01:51:58.600
what I think is going to happen
next the next congressional hearing, we need

1361
01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:03.399
to see a UFO craft. I
can present us the UFO craft in physical

1362
01:52:03.439 --> 01:52:06.840
form right now. I'm telling you
this what's going to happen. Super Bowl's

1363
01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:11.239
coming up in about two and a
half weeks, three weeks during the super

1364
01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:15.520
Bowl halftime show, when the Illuminati
and the Reptiles are performing, the whole

1365
01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:18.760
field is going to levitate and they're
going to reveal themselves. That's my prediction.

1366
01:52:20.239 --> 01:52:24.720
They tick off their mask and turn
it into a whole thing. Yeah,

1367
01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:29.319
I mean, they're definitely going to
do something surrounding UFOs at the super

1368
01:52:29.359 --> 01:52:31.720
Bowl halftime show, for sure.
For sure, they're going to do some

1369
01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:35.560
kind of UFOs and they'll be like
drones coming down and they'll probably be like

1370
01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:42.600
a light or something. Last year's
super Bowl halftime show was nuts Dude,

1371
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:47.239
Nuts with Rayana Wild But I don't
really want to get into that. We

1372
01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:51.079
only have a few more minutes left, but I do want to show the

1373
01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:58.399
footage of this jellyfish UFO really quickly
before let's do it. Bring it on

1374
01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:03.640
let's see this jellyfish. So this
is the if you're watching video, if

1375
01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:08.279
you're listening to audio, Unfortunately you
can't see it, but you can see

1376
01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:12.399
the video and raised by giants on
YouTube. This is the footage that was

1377
01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:18.960
in the documentary on to B from
Jeremy Corbell that is supposedly taken in Iraq

1378
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:27.359
infrared. Right, yes, well
I think Fleer. I think it's Fleer

1379
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:33.479
and it wasn't seen with a naked
eye. And Jeremy Corbel says it was

1380
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:43.119
taken in twenty eighteen, but the
Navy intelligence, no, the marine officer

1381
01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:47.640
says that it was taken in twenty
seventeen. It looks very rigid, almost

1382
01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:50.560
like it's superimposed over the back.
I'm not saying that's what it is.

1383
01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:57.159
It just looks that rigid, but
go ahead. It does look very superimposed.

1384
01:53:57.640 --> 01:54:05.800
And why isn't the target of this
really on the on the object most

1385
01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:11.119
of the time? And they say
they could It couldn't lock on is what

1386
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:14.000
they had said in the documentary.
It couldn't lock in one or something or

1387
01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:17.039
the system failed, something to that
effect. But they were able to get

1388
01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:24.239
the TIC tac Ufo and the Niemens
crass a different species. It's a different

1389
01:54:24.239 --> 01:54:30.319
species, it's a different line of
ship. This is freaking jellyfish UFO,

1390
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:34.720
which is another very interesting aspect.
As I was reading what I was mentioning

1391
01:54:34.720 --> 01:54:39.840
about Kenneth Arnold in the beginning of
the show, I was reading Chris Alback's

1392
01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:47.039
books Saucers, and he talks about
how Kenneth Arnold a couple of years later

1393
01:54:47.880 --> 01:55:00.960
started referring to these UFOs that he
was spotting as jellyfish. Can you believe

1394
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:06.720
that Ryan back in the fifties the
first person to see a UFO and report

1395
01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:14.920
on it. Kenneth Arnold started referring
to the UFOs as jellyfish, and there

1396
01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:18.319
were trans medium and they could change
shape, and he would refer to the

1397
01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:26.640
Book of Enoch and like all this
Bible prophecy stuff. Unbelievable. But some

1398
01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:38.960
people have claimed that this is a
balloon during a in Iraqian holiday. I

1399
01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:45.079
got the picture of this side by
side with the balloon looks almost dang identical.

1400
01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:49.079
It actually does. It does look
very very similar. Yes, what

1401
01:55:49.199 --> 01:55:53.600
is that called it? What kind
of balloon? I'm not sure I would

1402
01:55:53.640 --> 01:56:00.640
have to some was a balloon that's
let off during a holiday they that they

1403
01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:02.279
celebrate in Iraq. You know.
You know what this also reminds me of

1404
01:56:02.439 --> 01:56:06.640
is you know the story of Frederick
of Prussia and the hiding of the potatoes

1405
01:56:06.680 --> 01:56:10.399
behind the wall to get the peasants
to eat them because they thought, oh,

1406
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:12.760
they're behind the wall. The king
wants them, so we want them.

1407
01:56:13.319 --> 01:56:15.079
I kind of think of sometimes how
the military might do the same thing,

1408
01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:19.640
where they put fake videos or things
that are very easily distorted and made

1409
01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:23.000
up. Look at what you can
do with a camera and your window and

1410
01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.279
a block of wood. The military
can do this stuff and put it behind

1411
01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:30.039
you know, put it behind a
wall, if you will, and hide

1412
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:32.399
it. And then people come along
and get the declassified information, and what

1413
01:56:32.439 --> 01:56:36.680
they're actually getting is something the military
put their intentionally to mislead and disinform and

1414
01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:42.840
misinform the public. Go ahead.
I agree. Interesting that you bring up

1415
01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:48.680
Prussia. Prussia was Germany before Germany
was Germany, right, I believe so.

1416
01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:51.000
I don't know the history of that
too much, but I believe so.

1417
01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:58.399
I'm pretty sure Germany was called uh
Prussia before it was changed to Germany.

1418
01:57:00.039 --> 01:57:06.640
And then the last thing that I
want to bring up is the third.

1419
01:57:08.439 --> 01:57:13.039
In the third episode, we get
another UFO, but it's not a

1420
01:57:13.119 --> 01:57:15.600
video this time. We've only got
a few minutes, so let's do it

1421
01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:20.840
quick please. This one is only
a still image and it's called the Chandelier

1422
01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:29.359
UFO, and Jeremy Corbel calls this
intelligence officer on the phone. Whereas he

1423
01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:32.920
can't have the name of the person, his voice is put through some sort

1424
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:39.239
of distortion machine, so you can't
make out really what his voice actually sounds

1425
01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:47.199
like. And they show this picture
of this supposed chandelier UFO, and Jeremy

1426
01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:54.600
Corbel mentions that the video has never
been released, but he's somehow able to

1427
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:58.520
show the screenshop and not show the
actual foot show the video exactly. And

1428
01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:01.159
he said that he had seen some
other video that he can't confirm or deny

1429
01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:03.399
that he saw them, but he
did see them, but he didn't,

1430
01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:06.279
but he did, and you can't
see them, but he can see them.

1431
01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:11.159
And that's the same kind of thing
we hear with all the other whistleblowers.

1432
01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:13.920
I talk to them, you can't
talk to them. I talk to

1433
01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:15.800
the aliens, you can't talk to
them. There's a little bit of that

1434
01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:19.720
with Jeremy Corbel, as well,
I think in this relation to this documentary,

1435
01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:21.800
but we've got like less than two
minutes, so if you want to

1436
01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:25.640
quickly wrap up and let people know
where they can find you. Yes,

1437
01:58:25.760 --> 01:58:27.840
Ryan, thanks so much for having
me on. Brother, I really appreciate

1438
01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:30.600
your time. This evening, very
fascinating conversation. I think we did an

1439
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:35.760
amazing job for it. Agreed again, thanks for having me on. If

1440
01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:39.680
you would like to check out my
work and my channel and my research,

1441
01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:44.800
it's Raised by Giants on YouTube on
all of the alternative platforms as well on

1442
01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:50.199
all the podcast platforms to Spotify,
Apple and Heart Radio, Amazon Music,

1443
01:58:50.840 --> 01:58:55.239
Amazon Podcast, anywhere that you listen
to the podcast, you can find my

1444
01:58:55.359 --> 01:58:59.720
show on And if you would like
to see the video version of this show,

1445
01:59:00.399 --> 01:59:03.439
go to Raize by Grant's YouTube channel
and check it out there. Thanks

1446
01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:06.039
so much, Ryan, really appreciate
you. Brother. You're very welcome,

1447
01:59:06.079 --> 01:59:10.039
and we're probably going to be going
to contact in the Desert this year,

1448
01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:13.000
so we'll be talking a little bit
more about that in the coming months.

1449
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:15.239
I'm Ryan Gable. This is the
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1450
01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:18.520
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1451
01:59:18.560 --> 01:59:21.760
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1452
01:59:21.800 --> 01:59:26.479
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1453
01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:30.239
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1454
01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:33.039
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1455
01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:35.199
writer. If you would, really
really quick, can you pull up that

1456
01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:40.079
link I sent you because with us
a video of David Crush. You're talking

1457
01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:45.359
about his how he gets his witnesses. Oh, the SpongeBob. Yeah,

1458
01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:48.760
we'll go out with that. Now
it's not Spongeo. It was David Crush.

1459
01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:53.479
Ollkay, hold on, I'll have
to pull it up on YouTube.

1460
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:55.359
Yeah, don't worry about it.
He pulled up and we're going to go

1461
01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:57.319
out. That'll be our music tonight
to go out. This is let me

1462
01:59:57.359 --> 02:00:00.359
know when you got it. And
this is this is David Grush talking about

1463
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:05.920
how this is actually the whole UFO
community talking about how they get their information.

1464
02:00:08.720 --> 02:00:12.920
I thought this was funny. As
a SpongeBob fan, Rick right,

1465
02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:15.640
Squidward Sea Bears are no laughing matter. Like once I met this guy who

1466
02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:18.319
knew this guy who knew this guy
who knew this guy who knew this guy

1467
02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:21.159
who knew this guy who knew this
guy who knew this guy who knew this

1468
02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:25.159
guy who knew who knew this guy
who knew this guy who knew this guy

1469
02:00:25.279 --> 02:00:28.119
who knew this guy who knew this
guy who knew this guy who knew this

1470
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:32.960
guy's cousin. You're right that,
right there is how the congressional hearing went.

1471
02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:38.920
Anyway, I'm Ryan Gable Rider Lee, thank you so much for listening

1472
02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:41.560
to The video is going to be
up on social media. You'll find it there