1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,839 Welcome to a brand new, one hundred percent free episode of the Low Limit 2 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:11,199 Cash Games podcast. This is a podcast I created exclusively for you, the 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,720 lowest stakes poker player at your local card room or at your home poker games 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,679 one two no limit, one to three no limit. We're here to help 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,160 you become a winning player. Got a lot of people to think who have 6 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:28,719 sent me messages, done reviews, became fans of the pod. But of 7 00:00:28,719 --> 00:00:32,759 course we're saving all that to the very end of the podcast. They were 8 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:37,200 talking about sets first two pairs, and not just sets first two pairs. 9 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:40,920 I will speak about it in general, but we're going to be speaking about 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,560 a very specific set of circumstances with sets first two pairs that I see players 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,119 at low stakes get wrong all the time, and I think the reason, 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,000 well I don't think, I know the reason they get it wrong is because 13 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:56,560 they just don't understand the math behind it. And so today I'm hoping that 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,759 if this is a spot that you've been in before, and maybe you haven't 15 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:03,960 gone that deep into the math, and maybe you don't really understand how gregeous 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,719 the mistakes you may be making at times, hopefully this episode of the podcast 17 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,840 will help you. So we're specifically going to be talking about a spot. 18 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:15,879 We're gonna analyze a spot that assumes that you know with near certainty that the 19 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:23,120 player you're in the hand with always has a flush on the turn. Okay, 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,760 so you either have a set or you have two pair. We are 21 00:01:27,799 --> 00:01:33,680 on the turn and the flush has come in, and given the player type 22 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:37,000 and the situation and the bets and all this type stuff, we just know 23 00:01:37,239 --> 00:01:40,359 player just got a flush here, Like they just have a flush. Like 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,000 how sure are we? You can never be one hundred percent sure of anything, 25 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:49,239 of course, but we're just mostly certain they just have flushes here. 26 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,120 And so now the question becomes do we continue to the river because we have 27 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 outs to fill up? Right, we have a set, we can hit 28 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,760 a full house and we beat their flush, so we're not dead. If 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,239 we have two pair, we can hit a full house on the river, 30 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:06,040 we can fill up, so we're not drawing dead. And so now it 31 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:10,159 becomes an issue of do you continue now? Again, just to be clear, 32 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:14,400 I'm not talking about a spot where you're on the turn versus a player 33 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:19,680 that can bluff a three suit or it's too dumb to know that they shouldn't 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,400 betting their top pair when the three suit comes in. I'm talking about a 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,759 player where you just know it's super rare that they ever have anything here on 36 00:02:27,759 --> 00:02:31,800 this turn other than a flush. And our question is can we should we 37 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:36,759 continue with our set or our two pair. And so the problem that I 38 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,400 see with low stakes players is they don't think there's any difference between the two. 39 00:02:39,479 --> 00:02:42,680 They really don't. They're like, yeah, I can hit either one 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,280 of these, and we pair up, and yeah I need a board pair. 41 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,840 We fill up, lamb, lamb. But it's not it's not that 42 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,680 straightforward, and once you look at the math, it's not even that close. 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,879 So when you have a set verse two pair on the turn which brings 44 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,120 in a flush, it's very clear your opponent it has a flush. How 45 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:06,000 good a shapeer you in. So if you have a set, you're twenty 46 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:08,159 two percent to hit your set on the river, twenty two percent to hit 47 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:12,840 your set on the river. In most cases, this is a ballpark. 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,719 In most scenarios, it's going to be around twenty two percent, sometimes percent 49 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:23,080 or two lower, sometimes rarely higher. But for all intents as purposes, 50 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,800 we cat just round it to around twenty percent. I mean, you know, 51 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,840 basically basically got a one in five odds against your four to one. 52 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:34,719 Now when you have two pair, you may not think that it's that much 53 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:37,960 different. If you haven't done the math on it, you haven't done any 54 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,039 studying on it, you may not realize what an incredible difference there is between 55 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,400 these two spots. But if you have two pair, you're about nine percent 56 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:51,599 to fill up on the river, about nine percent. You're less than half. 57 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:54,280 It's less than half. So whereas you have one in about a one 58 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:58,439 in five opportunity to fill up on the river with a set so about odds 59 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,039 about four to one against you, we have about a one in ten chance 60 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:05,599 of filling up on the river with two pair, which is nine to one 61 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:12,080 against. I mean, that's a huge difference. It's an incredible difference. 62 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,519 So, uh, let's take one of the easiest scenarios to work through, 63 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:19,920 where it's all in on the turn right, Because this means there's no you 64 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,920 know, you don't have any math trying to figure out can you extract more 65 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:26,800 money if you hit on the river or whatever. We'll talk about that a 66 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,079 little bit later. We'll talk about the easiest, most simplest set of circumstances, 67 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:35,480 it's all in on the turn. If it's all in on the turn 68 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,759 and you have a set, you've got to be getting laid four to one. 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,319 In other words, there needs to be four times as much money in 70 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:53,399 the pot as it cost you to call. So if there's one hundred dollars 71 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:57,240 in the pot, you know it needs to be twenty You can't call any 72 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,480 more than twenty five. Once you start calling more than twenty five, then 73 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:03,480 you're losing money. Doesn't matter if you fill up or not, you still 74 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:06,680 lose money. You're like, wow, is that possible. It's because this 75 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,720 isn't the only time you're going to be in this spot. We're in the 76 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:14,879 spot one hundred times and we call it every time, and when we pay 77 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,279 more than twenty five dollars at the end of those hundred times, we will 78 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,879 be losing money. And that's how all of poker works. Poker is never 79 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:26,480 about this hand. It's about this hand played out thousands of times across the 80 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,040 year or across our lifetime. So if it's an all impot and the pot 81 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,279 doesn't laying you four to one with your set, then you just really need 82 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:40,759 to be folding now. If it's close. You know, it's twenty six 83 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:46,000 dollars instead of twenty five, it's twenty seven dollars instead of twenty five, 84 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:49,240 twenty eight dollars instead of twenty five. I mean, that's close enough that 85 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,079 you can allow for error that maybe sometimes your opponent is doing a two pair, 86 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:58,000 or maybe they have top pair and a flush draw some rare percentage of 87 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,600 the time, even though you think you even though so, we've already hopefully 88 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,639 we've already done the mental work to where we know this is an opponent that 89 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:10,319 just doesn't do that hardly, if ever. But maybe maybe even though it 90 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,160 is an opponent who would do that hardly, if ever, maybe once in 91 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,480 a blue man they changed the way they play and they jam it with top 92 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:21,920 pair and a flush draw of some sort. So you can call a little 93 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:26,879 bit more than twenty five. Maybe it'll work out being all right in the 94 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:30,439 long term. But you definitely don't call half pot, right, You can't. 95 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,480 You can't call fifty. Can't be one hundred dollars a pot and you 96 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,319 have to call fifty. You're not getting nearly enough odds. There's no room 97 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,800 for error. It's just it's just a horrible spot to be in. Now, 98 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,600 that's what a set. It's much worse when you have two pair. 99 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,759 I mean you need to be getting you need to be getting nine to one. 100 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:51,000 You need to getting nine to one. What does that mean? That 101 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,360 means for you to even call a ten dollars bet, the pot would have 102 00:06:56,439 --> 00:07:02,199 to be ninety. I mean, who's betting? Who's betting ten dollars into 103 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,319 an eighty dollars pot, right, because that's what they'd have to be doing. 104 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:10,600 It'd have to be an eighty dollars pot. They'd have to bet ten 105 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,199 dollars into it to make it ninety, and you'd have to call ten to 106 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:16,360 get your nine to one. I mean, you just never Let's just face 107 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:21,199 it, you're just never getting pot odds when we're versus this very specific opponent 108 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,959 that we are with almost the one hundred cent certainty, they just have the 109 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,639 flesh. We're just never getting the odds with a two pair. And so 110 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,800 this is the biggest mistake I see with those steaks players, because they equivalent 111 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,279 to two. They're like, oh, it's the same thing, Like they 112 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:40,920 don't think any more about one than the other. They put the money in 113 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,920 with the two pair just as fast as they do with the set without. 114 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,759 First of all, they never really consider pot odds at all. They're just 115 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,720 like, you know, I can't fold here. Ever, now, if 116 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:56,920 you think about it, if if there is any room for error, you're 117 00:07:56,959 --> 00:08:00,279 even better off in that instance with the set as well, even bottom set 118 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:03,199 right, because they could have top two or something. But let's say you 119 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 have bottom two. I mean, what if sometimes your ponent's just jamming with 120 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,879 top two. What if they have the set. I mean, it's just 121 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,240 you have a two pair, even beyond the flush. It's just it's just 122 00:08:13,399 --> 00:08:16,759 way bad. It's just a bad, bad situation to be getting into. 123 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,079 So the biggest mistake I see is payers just they just put the money in 124 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,199 with two pair because quote unquote, I can still get a full house. 125 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,399 I'm not drawing dead. Well, sometimes you're drawing so thin. It's nearly 126 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:33,279 the same thing as drawing dead. And poker is all about math, and 127 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:35,639 if the math don't add up in your favor, and I don't mean the 128 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,919 math of I got out, I mean the math of the pot laying you 129 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,480 the appropriate amount of odds for your call, then you will be losing money 130 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,679 on the call. Whether your full house comes or not. And you may 131 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,360 be thinking, well, if my full house comes, it doesn't cost them. 132 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,559 Yes, if you didn't get laid enough money to hit the full house, 133 00:08:56,159 --> 00:09:01,000 then it cost you money over time, assuming you're going to continue to 134 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:05,399 make that same call every time you're in this spot, because the math will 135 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,519 work itself out and you will be a loser. So for this reason, 136 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:13,759 it's it's safe to say, like this is simplified advice, and I understand 137 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:18,480 it's oversimplified advice. But when you're versus an opponent like this, and keep 138 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:22,519 in mind we're still referencing the fact that it's this is a specific opponent we're 139 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,399 up against. You just fold, just always fold the two pair. You 140 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,399 don't think about it. You don't need to do the math. There's no 141 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,799 way that an opponent is ever betting small enough on his turn that you will 142 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:37,200 ever have odds to call. No opponent is ever betting one ninth pot on 143 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 the river or one eighth pot or whatever on the river. They just aren't. 144 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,399 They just never are betting that small. And so you can just fold 145 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,919 your two pair hands and that all that leads us to do is work through 146 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,399 the math. On sets. Now, on sets, it's really easy. 147 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,240 When it's all in, right, you just need to be getting four to 148 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:58,960 one ish, right, you need to be getting very close to four to 149 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,919 one. You're off couple percentages or whatever we'll roll with. That's an easy 150 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,840 decision, All ends of decisions easy. Where there's a little bit of nuance 151 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,399 is when it's not all in and there's money left behind, because there is 152 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,639 this thing called imply todds where you can make up some of the money you 153 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,840 aren't getting on the turn if you hit on the river and you know you 154 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:26,200 can get it out of them, right, you know you can make it 155 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,440 up on the river. So in a case like that, let's say you're 156 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,799 only getting three to one, right, So let's say they bet us the 157 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,399 pot is seventy five on the turn, and it costs you twenty five to 158 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,840 call. So you're only getting three to one, and you need to be 159 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,360 getting four to one, right. You really need to be getting four to 160 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,480 one. Well, as long as if when you hit you can make up 161 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,960 that other twenty five dollars on the river, they'll call at least the twenty 162 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,639 five dollars bet on the river when you hit, and you know they will, 163 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 and you know you're not going to get crazy and bet so much they 164 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,639 wan't call because you can't do that, can't bet so much they wan't call 165 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,960 because if they fold and it's didn't even though you get the fold on the 166 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,360 river and you got there, it's still not profitable because you did not get 167 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,000 the four to one. You have to get the four to one some way, 168 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,720 somehow. The math don't lie. Math is immutable. It doesn't bend 169 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,120 to your whims. So if you're only getting three to one on the turn 170 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,200 when you need four to one, you gotta ask yourself it when I hit, 171 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,480 can I make up the other one part on the river? And I 172 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,279 think, almost exclusively, almost always can. So in the case where the 173 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,679 pot is seventy five and it costs you twenty five to call, and you 174 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,919 hit on the river, so now the pot is going to be one hundred, 175 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,279 could you bet twenty five on the river and get called with somebody call 176 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,000 twenty five with a flush on the river, For sure they would. They 177 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,000 might even call half pot. But you know, once you push it past 178 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:54,480 half pot board pairs, they start considering folding, So you never want to 179 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:01,559 bet so much they fold and you could just go right on down the line, 180 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,840 right, if you're getting two to one, you're getting two to one. 181 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Can you make up the other two on the river? That's another question 182 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,720 for you. If it's if it's one hundred dollars pot, it's costing you 183 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,919 fifty, right, so you're getting you're getting two to one, can you 184 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,679 make up fifty on the river? It's a good question. There's a questions 185 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,440 you have to ask yourself. So with a two payer hand, you don't 186 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,639 really have these options. It's it's just much more dire. You're just like 187 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,120 never going to make up the other eight eight nights of the pot on the 188 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,440 river. You just never r when it hits you should never going to be 189 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,960 able to make it up. So look, I would have this advice moving 190 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,519 forward for simplicity's sake. We can do some math and we can think about 191 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,200 sets, right, and we knew we do need to do that. We 192 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,919 need to stop. Is it all in? Is there money left behind? 193 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Can I make up what's I'm not quite getting on the turn with a river? 194 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,519 Bet when I get there and understand the math, make sure the math 195 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,080 is there with sets for two pays, I just don't think there's even any 196 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,799 reason to do the math man, when you're in a spot against opponent that 197 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,519 you know they aren't betting this turn nless they have the flush, right, 198 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:13,440 they just aren't, Like I don't know one and a one hundred times. 199 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,200 Maybe they are one and one and seventy five times. It's like a super 200 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,000 rare occurrence. They might, but I mean we just know, you know, 201 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,519 like you never know one hundred percent, but like we're ninety eight percent, 202 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,120 like they're just it's just a flush. Then you just toss the two 203 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:30,440 pair and it's hard to do because you can still get there, and it's 204 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:35,440 you still want to feel like, oh maybe I'm still ahead some even though 205 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,879 you know you're not. I mean, when you're in that situation, toss 206 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:45,480 the two pairs and let's do the math on the sets. Thank you so 207 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,080 much for listen today's episode. Hope you enjoying the new format. I did 208 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,919 it just for you. 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They get it over on the Patreon platform. 217 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:28,919 So we used to just have every Sunday an episode would come out on the 218 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:35,159 public facing podcast feed and you just get every and just I was overwhelmed with 219 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,320 messages and questions and hand histories, and I mean, I'm not gonna whine 220 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,879 about it. I'm not crying about it. I loved it for so long, 221 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,039 but it became so overwhelming. It was just unsustainable. It's unsustainable and 222 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:52,519 people. It's weird how people start to once something's free, they just think 223 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,080 they can exploit it to the end of the earth. They're like, oh, 224 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,000 we can just we just yes, it's fine. Not understanding there's a 225 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:03,200 real life human on the other side that's getting the two hundred, one hundred 226 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,320 seventy five messages every single week asking all these questions. Who is doing his 227 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:13,559 due diligence to try to reply to all those give all those people his time 228 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,519 for free, plus deal with his people who he has committed to on Patreon, 229 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,000 plus come up with ideas and concepts for the pop pod. Plus do 230 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,320 the outline of the pod, plus record the pod, plus edit the cop 231 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,679 pod, plus upload and schedule the pod. I mean it's full Chip just 232 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,000 comes a full time job at some point, and it's for free. And 233 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,720 people were like, well, I liked the better when it was free. 234 00:15:35,759 --> 00:15:39,399 Well, I'm sure you did. I mean I of course, of course 235 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,559 we all liked the better when it was free. Of course we liked the 236 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:43,399 better when I didn't put ads in it. Of course we loved it better. 237 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Then. It was better when when our lives weren't disturbed by the free 238 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,679 content. You know, of course we liked it better. But it's just 239 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,960 was unsustainable. So folks like this who becomes friend of the pods, we 240 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 all have them to think. Because I'm still doing four episodes a month. 241 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,320 It's up to you. Rather you just get the one episode or whether you 242 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,720 get the four, you get the one episode. You don't get any fluff 243 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:10,919 up front, no ads up front that I put in at talking about my 244 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,000 patreony of that, you don't get me reading. Thank you's up front and 245 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,559 you just get straight to the content, which is what you guys said. 246 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,240 You want straight to the content. Just give me the content, man, 247 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,399 and that's what you get. And you can thank fans of the pot for 248 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,360 that. These guys are the true MVPs. They're the heroes or a measly 249 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,200 five bucks. They are world changers and now I can't thank them enough. 250 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,399 Secondarily, I want to thank people who leave reviews. So this is a 251 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:40,120 two parter. I would say Claw Esque left the review that said this website 252 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,480 had changed him from somebody that just looks as his cards as chips and says 253 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,679 what do I do now and to somebody that looks around and knows what he 254 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,000 should be thinking about at every stage of the hand. That's a great review, 255 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:52,320 Claw ask thank you for that. I should also say that he also 256 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:56,399 followed that up with a private message, prefect message to me on the Facebook 257 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,279 messenger and he said, I just get gave you a review. I'm through 258 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,160 the second season. I just wanted to thank you. I've been playing the 259 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,559 same game for twenty five years and you have made my players so much better. 260 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,279 Thank you so much. So claw esque. I won't use your real 261 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,200 name since you used an acronym, but thank you so much. I really 262 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:22,400 appreciate that. And then we have a three star review, and just let 263 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,799 me say I, if you're going to be negative, at least thank you 264 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:27,920 for not making it a one star and being just horrible about it. You 265 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:33,799 know, thank you, thank you for at least still doing three stars this 266 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,400 game from Big Balls Lewis who used to enjoy the podcast when it was free 267 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,400 and no ads, and you know you just got it spoon fed for free 268 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:48,759 and my life wasn't being consumed by it like a full time job. But 269 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:55,000 somewhere along the way it morphten to ads for fans of the show and Patreon, 270 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,839 which is a euphemism for paying the host. Well, it's not a 271 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,720 euphemism for paying. It's it's paying. It's not an euphemism. It's paying, 272 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:11,519 not a euphemism. But Big Balls Louis, I will salute you because 273 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:14,920 it's a man. It does take a man, first of all, to 274 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,279 put their thoughts out in public like you did on the review. So I 275 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,839 thank you for the review. I thank you for the positive parts of the 276 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,680 review, and then I thank you because even though you're incensed by somebody that 277 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,039 basically is devoting hours and hours and hours of their personal life every week to 278 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,240 it and just going, hey, you appreciate it. Become a fan, 279 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,759 give me five dollars. Even though you're insensed by that, you feel like 280 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:40,160 it's out of line, you still did at least give three stars. And 281 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,960 I want to give the tip of the hat you for that because it means 282 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,119 a lot. And I hope you keep listening. I hope you enjoy the 283 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,279 new format. I hope it's uh brings back all the warm feelings of what 284 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,240 you remember when there never used to be a call out for fans of the 285 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:56,920 pod. And with that being said, let's talk about it. Lowlimitcash Games 286 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,200 dot Com is how you become a fan of the pod. And that's like, 287 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:03,240 hey, I love the four episodes and I'm willing to toss you five 288 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,880 bucks to get the other three. Now here's a little something that I don't 289 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,279 ever talk about, but when you do become a fan of the Pods, 290 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:11,720 you now get access on the Patreon platform, which means you can shoot me 291 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,400 messages on the Patreon platform. That means your questions go to the head of 292 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,119 the line, So I try to answer everybody. If you shoot me a 293 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,319 message on Facebook Messenger or Instagram Messenger or whatever, I do try to answer 294 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,200 every single one of those, and it's very time consuming. It's super time 295 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,640 consuming, and sometimes it may be a week before you hear from me, 296 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,680 so maybe two weeks. Sometimes it may be two hours. But I do 297 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,559 my best because I love interacting with folks that listen to the pod. I 298 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:41,359 love talking hand in histories, I love asking your strategy questions. I love 299 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,119 trying to help. I really do. It brings me great joy, even 300 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,400 though it's turned into essentially a full time job, which is not what I 301 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 wanted, and I'm fixing that. We fixed that. It doesn't feel like 302 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,720 a full time job anymore. I made the change now that I should have 303 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,720 made at the beginning of the year. But I was just trying to do 304 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:00,880 a compromise. It's really my fault for thinking I could do a compromise and 305 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,960 get away with it when I should have just done what I knew needed to 306 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,000 be done, just do a public facing episode one of them and then just 307 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:11,640 making the others behind a paywa wash. That's what I should have done, 308 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,799 and that's my fault, but I tried. I tried to do a compromise 309 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,200 way where we could still do free episodes every week and it not feel like 310 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,799 a full time job to me and me not feel like and I was being 311 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,400 taken advantage of, which and I don't mean anybody was doing that in a 312 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,839 predatory way. It just means I genuinely asked that you could send me messages 313 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:32,799 and I love hearing from me, and I did, but it just became 314 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,680 overwhelming. It's just so overwhelming. So when you become a fan of the 315 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,359 pod, you can now shoot me messages on the Patreon platform using their messaging 316 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,839 system, which means you go straight to the front of the line if you 317 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:47,640 have a question. Whereas we're before, when you're just send me messages on 318 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,319 Instagram and Facebook, I get to them as soon as I can. I 319 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,279 still do get to them, but it's just as soon as I can. 320 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,559 So that's first of all. On the second of all, if you want 321 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:59,480 full blown training, our full blown Patreon training package, which is twenty five 322 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:02,480 bucks, half the price of anybody else they're out there trying to train you 323 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,440 how to crush poker. It's targeted right to the one two pet three Limit 324 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,759 Player. There's none of this stuff that only applies to fifty one hundred or 325 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:14,359 twenty five, fifty or five ten, And we do fun things over there, 326 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,880 great things over there. The discord communities are part of it. I've 327 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,880 seen you check that out. All of it's at Lowlimit Cash Games dot com, 328 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Low Limit Cash Games dot Com. All the links and information stuff will 329 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:29,839 be down in the description and information section of this podcast. And genuinely from 330 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,519 all my heart, I mean, it doesn't matter how I say it and 331 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:34,480 how genuine I try to be about it, there's always somebody that'll send me 332 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,559 messages that sound like I'm whining or something. I mean, if that's how 333 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,799 it comes across, I so be it. But I'm not whining. It's 334 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,920 just facts are just facts. It's just where we were at with the pod. 335 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,799 The pod just got so popular, so overwhelmingly popular. I could not 336 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,519 keep up with it and devote that many hours of my life to it for 337 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,839 free every week. I just couldn't. So the options were it has to 338 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,200 go away, or I have to somehow justify them many hours of my time, 339 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,279 That's what it boiled down to. And so it's not whining. It's 340 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:10,480 just facts. And I appreciate all you for being here, whether you pay 341 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,839 or whether you don't, if you listen to the free episode once a month 342 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,880 now and all the backlog of four episodes that are all up for free, 343 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,359 or whether you become a fan of the pod, or rather you become a 344 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,680 patron, I appreciate you all. I appreciate this community experience. I love 345 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,359 getting messages from you, I love trying to answer your questions. I love 346 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,000 trying to help any way I can, and I will continue to do that 347 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:33,960 for as long as I can. So that being said, we'll wrap it 348 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:37,480 up here, we'll sign out, and we will see in the next episode. 349 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:37,160 Thanks so much,