WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:21.519 Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, 2 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:26.679 I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I 3 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.280 put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and 4 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.479 laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't wanna go 5 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.159 out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football. For everybody, I think 6 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.119 this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from 7 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.600 yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same 8 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:49.280 thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You 9 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:56.320 play to win the game. You don't play to just play it. That's 10 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.520 a great thing about sports. You play to win, and I don't care 11 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.400 if you don't have any witch. You go play to win. When you 12 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:15.640 start telling me it doesn't matter to retire, get out because the matter that's 13 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:22.000 right. It is six h two here on this Friday, June the fourteenth, 14 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.599 Dennis fitting an inn for Matt Shepherd on Axis and Bros. It's great 15 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:30.079 to be here on the Michigan Sports Network. I'm pinch hitting, I think, 16 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:34.599 but the six to seventh time that I've been able to put this headset 17 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:42.680 on and talk into the mic along with the ben who's producing, and take 18 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.000 you into the weekend. Most of the times it has been on a Friday, 19 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.799 and you know Fridays. Not to get too repetitive of what I say, 20 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.519 but I don't like everyone. Most of everyone, it's my favorite day 21 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:59.840 of the week. And so here we go heading into a Father's Day weekend. 22 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.519 That's gonna be one of the themes today. I'm gonna get to some 23 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:07.200 sweeps here in this first segment. And if you are a football fan, 24 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.800 I am looking ahead to the seven o'clock hour and I am going to zero 25 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.599 in on the NFC North, and I'm thinking about the Lions, and I'm 26 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:23.000 thinking about the Packers. And I will ask you I found filling in a 27 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:30.120 few times that not everyone out there is a Detroit Lions fan. But it 28 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.080 feels like if you're not a Detroit Lions fan and you're listening, you're a 29 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.599 Green Bay Packers fan or a Chicago Bears fan, which works nicely if you 30 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:43.360 want to talk about the NFC North. But the Lions are the champs, 31 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:49.639 and we'll just see how nervous, how scared you are about the Green Bay 32 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.400 Packers for this upcoming season for the Lions. Maybe you're just sitting out there 33 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:58.680 with your chest out and you're thinking, no, I think that's actually where 34 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.240 the majority of the right lying fans or at. But we'll get to that 35 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.560 coming up. I I'll get to it. Give you my thoughts on how 36 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.319 scared I am of the packers in an hour from right now. But you 37 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.439 know, heading into this Father's Day, I also wanted to ask the folks 38 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.919 out there if you think back, sometimes dads are funny. You know, 39 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.319 they've they've got You can go on the internet and are you they I know 40 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.080 because I got a book myself over the last few years of you know, 41 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:31.280 Father's Day saying, you know Father's Day, you know your dad will have 42 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:35.039 these, you know, silly things that he say. Well, we all 43 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.120 do those, so we all get into there and and and have our own 44 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:43.159 sayings. But if you had any special one that you think that the audience 45 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.719 would like, I would like to hear from you on that. This morning, 46 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.479 I'll give you an example. We know the US Open is going on. 47 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.800 I know shep was out at the golf course. I was just listening 48 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:59.159 to a huge talk about eating lobsters, getting in line and sounded like he 49 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.719 was out at the golf course worse as well, out there in West Michigan. 50 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:08.680 And whenever I would play golf and I would get mad, my dad 51 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:14.879 would say, Dennis, what I tell you about getting mad? You are 52 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.519 not good enough get mad, and which would kind of make me mad. 53 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.720 So I had to play with an even keel. You know, you play 54 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:28.600 with people, get upset. It's a frustrating game. But he repeatedly. 55 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.439 And now that I was thinking about, what was What did my own dad 56 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:36.759 say over the years that would be interesting or funny. Most of them had 57 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:41.959 to do with golf, but that was the one that actually and I still 58 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.920 think about that one whenever I get out there and hit a good shot that 59 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.240 I'm sitting out there perfectly, and then I just, you know, kick 60 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:56.240 one really bad. I say, you know, it's not gonna be mad. 61 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.120 I'm not good enough. I am not good enough to be bad. 62 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.720 Now you know how good I would have to be before I would get mad. 63 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.680 You know, we never got to that point. I don't play that 64 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:13.040 often, so it still fits to this day. I'm not good enough to 65 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:18.160 get mad playing golf. It's my father's day. Twenty twenty four, saying 66 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.160 to you, if you're a golfer, if you've got one of those, 67 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:27.279 you can get in on that. I want to get to what happened last 68 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:34.879 night in sports, and I watched the majority of Game three of the Stanley 69 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:42.079 Cup Finals up there in Edmonton and Florida hangs on. They went at four 70 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.040 to three over Edmonton. So the Florida Panthers are one went away from their 71 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:54.639 first Stanley Cup ever. Now they're in position to sweep Edmonton as they're up 72 00:05:54.680 --> 00:06:00.800 three to go. And as you probably know, the Celtics tonight can close 73 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:10.639 out the Dallas Mavericks in Big d and they can sweep and it happens. 74 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:17.639 But it has not happened in the both NHL and NBA playoffs where the finals 75 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:24.720 has been swept since nineteen ninety five, so it has been a while where 76 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:30.879 we had twenty four twenty nine years it has been. And it was the 77 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:35.079 Rockets on the NBA side taking down the Magic and then it was the Devils 78 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:42.439 and Marty Broduor taking down the Detroit Red Wings, and it just for me 79 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.839 made me think when they finally punched through in won the Stanley Cup in ninety 80 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:51.360 seven, it was a forty two year old drought. If you're not old 81 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:57.920 enough to remember, the Red Wings were considered to be a gigantic jinx. 82 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.360 They kind of like people look at the there's a lot of teams, teams 83 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.879 that don't win, you know. For the it was the Cubs and the 84 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:08.680 Red Sox, and in baseball for the longest time until they ended it. 85 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:12.240 But it was the Red Wings like the leafs. Like now people looked at 86 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.879 the Toronto maple leafs and you know they do seem cursed. But for the 87 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.199 Red Wings, it was like that exercise the ghosts, and they did it 88 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.839 forty two years. They were able to do it in ninety seven when they 89 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:27.360 got through, but in ninety five when they made the finals, you know, 90 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.319 you're thinking this is gonna be it. And it's funny the things that 91 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:35.160 you remember in sports. But I can remember on that opening night, getting 92 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:39.959 ready to play the Red Wings and the Devils and the ninety five Stanley Cup 93 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.720 Finals. I had a car with no air conditioning. On a day like 94 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.879 today, it seemed like the maybe there was a strike that pushed the season 95 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:54.759 backs, and it seemed like it was even further into June than right now, 96 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.959 but I don't know, maybe not, but maybe the point is is 97 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:03.519 that I was drying in my little car with no AC over to my friend's 98 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:09.439 house, and you know, I had the radio blasting on some you know, 99 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.480 you'd think music with no sports talk like you know right now, and 100 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.000 I was just getting pumped, you know, for that game. And you 101 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:22.800 know, that's like my entire memory of that series, the drive over to 102 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:28.480 my friend's house and for the next I wasn't the next twenty five years, 103 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:33.480 but certainly for the next ten years, getting together with my friends for the 104 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:39.039 for the playoffs, and for sure the Stanley Cup finals and you know the 105 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.320 Red Wings then, you know, winning in ninety seven, ninety eight, 106 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:48.080 coming back in two thousand and two, doing it in two thousand and eight, 107 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.559 and you know, sweeps, if it's your team you're here, a 108 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:58.279 Florida Panther team, Florida Panther or a Boston Celtic fan, you know, 109 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.440 you're you're fine, You're happy with a sweep. You just want to get 110 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.919 it done. If you are who else would be If you're gambled, if 111 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:11.120 you battle the Florida Panthers or the Boston Celtics to win, you know you 112 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.519 don't want to have a good series, but everyone else, and I think 113 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.360 it's the majority of us. You know, it's a letdown. What does 114 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.480 everyone say if you're not betting, or if you're not a fan of that 115 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.440 team, you just want to see a good series. Oh when people ask 116 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.200 me, who do I want to see? I want to see a game 117 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.720 seven. I want to see drama. I want something to talk about on 118 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:37.759 the radio. Well, we're not getting that. We're just getting two teams 119 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.399 that are ready to They've got the brooms poised and they're ready to just put 120 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:50.399 their opponent into the bin. We'll get to what else happened yesterday in sports 121 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:56.639 and get you ready for this weekend. On this Father'sday weekend, I'm Dennis 122 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.759 Fifthian. I'm in for Matt Shepherd is here. Thanks for listening, Jaxis 123 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.559 and Bros. And a Michigan Sports Network huge. Here for my good friends 124 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:11.120 from Flying Ace Whiskey. 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They had 148 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.840 the emoji with the dude with the the sunglasses, you know, and even 149 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.000 though it was going to be hot, pretty good. But then on Monday 150 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:45.720 they had the frowning and then the other, I don't know, exasperated emoji 151 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:52.320 guy and it said muggy muggy starting on Monday. Nobody likes a muggy day. 152 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:54.799 Hot. You're okay, but nobody's out there, you know, because 153 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:56.399 you can say, well, I like this, you know, I'm going 154 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.039 to the beach, but nobody likes muggy. So but We don't have to 155 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:09.720 worry about that until Monday. All right. We're looking back to what has 156 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.320 happened in sports yesterday and getting you ready for the weekend. I've got the 157 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:22.399 question out there for you with Father's Day, and we're looking for your favorite 158 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.799 saying from your father. If you've got a good one that you think the 159 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.000 audience would like, you can jump in on that. Of course, you 160 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.720 know you're a sports fan. I don't know you like football. You want 161 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.480 to get into that right away. I will be talking about the Lions and 162 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.360 the Packers and the Bears, and I'm gonna put the mix in there with 163 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:50.279 the Vikings. Why not with the NFC North. How scared you are as 164 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.080 a Lions fan of the Green Bay Packers. We'll get to that coming up 165 00:13:54.200 --> 00:14:00.200 at seven oh one. I was looking back to last night with Florida uh 166 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:07.120 beating Edmonton four to three and pulling within one game away from winning their first 167 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:13.919 Stanley Cup. And they have the three oh series lead, and both in 168 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:18.519 the NBA and NHL we have three oh series lead, which made me, 169 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.879 you know, think about sweep saying, you know, it's it's just watching 170 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.159 Kyrie Irving from the MAVs saying, yeah, it's just about pride. It's 171 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:33.480 just about pride now, and you know it's demoralizing even as a fan. 172 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.840 I was thinking as I was watching the game last night, the hockey game. 173 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.399 Edmonton is such a we would say hockey hotbed. I mean, they 174 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.360 love their hockey. If you told me that per capita, that the folks 175 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.759 in Edmonton liked hockey more than anyone else in the world, you know, 176 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.320 you wouldn't get any pushback from me. You know, there's probably a lot 177 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:00.679 of people in Canada and say, now we're but Edmonton's right there, especially 178 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.639 with the success that they've had over the years and everything else. But and 179 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.159 we used to always joke about, oh, you'll get a great sheet of 180 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.279 ice up there. You know, it's cold and and and all of that, 181 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.279 and I have to deal with uh, you know, you always are 182 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:18.720 thinking about that it's gonna be good that way. But watching the you know, 183 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:24.360 the anthem and the crowd just like let's go Oilers and all of that, 184 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.480 I was thinking about. I was holding you know, you wait the 185 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:33.120 whole time and you're you know, wanting to win the Stanley Cup. How 186 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:41.039 excited would you be to go to a game four on what's Saturday night. 187 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.960 If you're an Edmonton Oilers fan, when you're down three to zero and you 188 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:46.879 have to be you know you just love hockey, You're gonna go, hey, 189 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.039 it's the Stanley Cup Finals. You start playing like the things. You 190 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.200 know, stranger things can happen. But when you get to these stranger things 191 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:02.960 can happen, not so much. In in Stanley Cup Finals history, there 192 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.720 have been twenty eight teams that have been up three to oh, and twenty 193 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:14.240 seven out of twenty eight times, the a team that's been up three to 194 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:18.679 oh has one. So you pull out the emojii's saying oh. So you 195 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:25.200 say there's a chance. There is a chance. Toronto took down the Detroit 196 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:34.519 Red Wings in nineteen forty two back from a three deficit. So that's where 197 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.919 we sit, Ben, Are you ready to do you do you think that 198 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:44.000 the Edmonton Oilers, as we go back to the studio, would you predict 199 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.399 that since that they would be the first team to come back from a three 200 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.879 oh series late since nineteen forty two? I don't think they have it. 201 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.960 Yeah, I don't either. If there's something fluky all one goal games, 202 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.920 you know, a discrepancy like on the power play or something something that you 203 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:12.400 would pull in, like there's a major injury to Bobrasky got hurt last night 204 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.880 and you would say, oh, I don't know, you can get a 205 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.759 backup goal and whatever. But there's none of that Florida. Every time you 206 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.480 watch them, they look better and as much as uh, you know, 207 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:29.119 you watch the playoffs over the years, and in particular the Stanley Cup finals, 208 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.920 you uh, you watch and so many times you know, you'll you'll 209 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.200 watch a game and this is what it's a great thing about hockey. It's 210 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.319 also one of the frustrating things about hockey. You'll watch and there it seems 211 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:47.759 like it comes down to a puck bounce here, a post, there, 212 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:52.400 a deflection, and it's like, is that it I mean, but that's 213 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.319 not what it is with Florida. I mean, the Oilers scored first, 214 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.759 uh yesterday, I'm sorry, the pan scored a goal late in the first 215 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.039 but then the Oilers tied it up. But then there was the floodgates and 216 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.160 there was no like a bounce here, a bounce there. The Panthers they 217 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.759 scored three goals in just over six minutes, and you know, there was 218 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:18.920 a two to one one. There's you know, a guy beating the oiler 219 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.559 defenseman in the back of the night and putting it out to Tarasinko who's sitting 220 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.400 in there right all alone in the slot, right in front of the goaltender 221 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.839 Skinner who made the bad play and back of the goal. The point is 222 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:33.480 is that it was Florida looked like they were in the regular season, playing 223 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.079 one of the worst teams in the NHL, not a Stanley Cup Finals. 224 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.200 When they were on a roll, right, there was no thing about, 225 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.640 oh a bounce here, a bounce there. You could have talked about that 226 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:47.279 in the first period, and they were talking about that after twenty minutes, 227 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:57.240 but not after forty minutes. It was a very impressive display by Florida. 228 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:03.599 You know, the sweeps. I was just thinking about in Detroit sports history, 229 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.200 and I mentioned the Red Wings, you know, getting swept by the 230 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:12.400 Devils in ninety five. If you then think about the Red Wings history, 231 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.400 they went out when they finally did win it over the Flyers, what happened. 232 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.359 They swept them. They swept the Flyers in ninety seven, and then 233 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.440 when they came back in one back to back in ninety seven and ninety eight. 234 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:33.079 In ninety eight they beat the Capitals. That was also a sweep. 235 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:41.359 So the first two times in forty two years when they they broke the the 236 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.039 Hecks or the Stanley Cup drought, the Red Wings were able to get sweeps 237 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:52.240 in the Stanley Cup finals. So then I was thinking about the Pistons. 238 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:57.160 The Pistons, when you think about sweeps, the last three times that they 239 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:02.880 have been in the playoffs, they have been the Bucks did it, the 240 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:06.519 Calves, and I don't know who the other one was in there, probably 241 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:11.200 Milwaukee again swept out of the playoffs. But if you think about the Pistons 242 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:18.079 when they finally won the NBA championship in eighty eight eighty nine, they took 243 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:23.359 on the Lakers, and what happened in that series. The Pistons swept the 244 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:29.599 Lakers. That's what happened. So you know, the sweeps on one side, 245 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.960 the sweeps on the other. I say finally, because the Pistons the 246 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:47.920 year before had taken on the Lakers and they were in a situation to beat 247 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:55.240 La but they lost that game six. With the tough fowl. I believe 248 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.960 that was the game that Isaiah had twenty five in the first quarter, but 249 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.640 you know went down with the hook shot with Kareem Lambert was like the plane 250 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.839 of vertic Cavilli. Everything that you would teach as a coach about how to 251 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.799 play defense in the post, there was Lambert, and yet they called him 252 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.480 for the Phantom File. 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Hey, it is Dennis Fifthion here on Axes and Bros. 287 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:32.559 And the Michigan Sports Network. Florida. They are one game away from 288 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:37.559 winning their first ever Stanley Cup as they beat Edmonton in Edmonton last night by 289 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:42.680 a final of four to three. All right, we're going to talk about 290 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:49.559 the Lions coming up at seven oh one, and just how much do the 291 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:53.480 Green Bay Packers scare? You want you to think about that question? I 292 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:59.720 am going to answer it coming up at seven oh one. I have the 293 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:04.240 question out there for you, and this is this is perfect to use the 294 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:10.519 text line to get your feedback in we're looking for your dad sayings on this 295 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.880 Father's Day weekend. Something your dad would say, a funny, a serious, 296 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:22.039 something that has stayed with you in sports or otherwise. You can text 297 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.720 that in the sports radio sports radio all one word to twenty one thousand, 298 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.519 Sports radio to twenty one thousand, give me that favorite dad saying in this 299 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.759 Father's Day weekend twenty twenty four. Of course you can call us at eight 300 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.720 six six eight three, eight forty eight forty three on the Meyer Hotline. 301 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.519 We've had open topics out there for you. I'm going to get to what 302 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:51.960 a big time baseball stats guy had to say this week. And his name 303 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.680 is Bill James. And if you're a baseball fan, stat driven a person 304 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:03.720 you'll know the name Bill James. Bill James put a tweet out the notion 305 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:11.839 that no one except a small child should get a foul ball is a very 306 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.799 recent phenomenon. Ten years ago. James says, an adult could catch a 307 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:22.880 foul ball and nobody would say anything about it. Now I saw that. 308 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.240 Let me first ask Ben Zost, who's producing Ben, have you ever caught 309 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.720 a ball at a baseball game. I have not. That would be exciting, 310 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.359 but no, it would be exciting. It's something that we all think 311 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:40.079 about or maybe dream about. I never have either, but I have seen, 312 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:45.200 buddy of it. It's happened around me, and there is no doubt 313 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.519 that you can be affected. Most of the time when you see, especially 314 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:57.400 when online, you'll see the like adult like pushing a kid out of the 315 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:03.279 way. Nobody. We're not talking about anything like that. But what James 316 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.359 is saying is that even if you are there and you catch the ball, 317 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:15.920 then you're supposed to immediately find a child in your vicinity and you're supposed to 318 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:21.880 hand the ball to. Now. I do agree that there feels like there 319 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:26.160 is a little pressure to do that if you're an adult at a game. 320 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.319 I don't think that this is some recent phenomenon. If he wanted to say, 321 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.960 I don't know, twenty five years ago, an adult could catch a 322 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.640 ball and nobody would say anything about it, I'd buy it. But you 323 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.799 know, ten years ago, so that would be my quibble with what he 324 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.559 has to say about that. But I've always you know, since I have 325 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:52.920 never caught a foul ball or any kind of baseball at a game. And 326 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.799 you know, I've got kids at home and they're older now, but and 327 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:03.200 the you know, nephew and nieces. I could very easily have seen myself 328 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.640 at a baseball game as a fan if I caught my first foul ball ever 329 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.440 and people are pressuring me, were looking at me like, hey, you're 330 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.119 going to give that ball up? I was thinking, you know, no, 331 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.119 I'm going to How about I'm going to take this home and I'm going 332 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:23.079 to give it to my kid or I am going to actually give it to 333 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.400 somebody in my family. I'm not going to be pressured by you. So 334 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.240 I do know that that's out there, that you know, that feeling that 335 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:41.599 you should be giving the ball away. You know, a long time ago, 336 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.759 I've got one of the best seats I ever got, were just given 337 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.480 to me randomly on a Sunday, somebody called and said, hey, you 338 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.480 want to go to the Tigers game? Pre tickets would drive you there and 339 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:59.599 everything else. And you know why not. I was in college and I 340 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.039 remember going to this game. We went to the guy's house and not only 341 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.759 did he have the tickets and was he driving us to the game. He's 342 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.319 like he had he had a family outing over the weekend. He said, 343 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.759 Hey, there's a cooler full of drinks in there before we go. You 344 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:18.480 guys help yourself. So not only are we getting free tickets and free parking 345 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:25.599 and everything else, Hey here's a cooler full of drinks. The point of 346 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.079 this story is is that the tickets were great. And the guy who I'll 347 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.720 never forget his name, his name was Ace. I don't know that, 348 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.240 you know, it had to be a nickname, but didn't ask too much 349 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.559 about that. The guy's names Ace. His tickets were great. Were sitting 350 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.960 a couple of rows behind the Tigers dugout, and this was Tiger Stadium, 351 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:52.759 so it was back in the day. But the that is foul ball territory 352 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.359 obviously, right, you know you're sitting here, but I can recall sitting 353 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.400 there and seeing the foul ball get hit up in the air, you know 354 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.799 whatever. It was fifty sixty feet and it's coming down right at me, 355 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:08.400 but it just goes like two or three seats down and who catches it but 356 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:14.880 Ace, who's right there. And I was never happier for anybody to catch 357 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.480 a foul ball that I barely knew then Ace as give me the tickets all 358 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:19.839 the things that I talked about. So I'm like, hey, that's great, 359 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.759 great job Ace, you know, high five and while having our laughs 360 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:29.160 and so there it is. That's not a really big deal. But later 361 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.599 in the game, almost the exact same thing happens. You know, the 362 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.519 foul ball's coming. Like I'm thinking, oh, this one's coming right for 363 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.359 me, I'm getting this one. But at the last second I got it's 364 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:45.440 just you know, streams over and who catches it. But Ace again, 365 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:52.880 two foul balls in the same game. I was reminded about a month ago. 366 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.000 It was it was a Mariners game. There was a guy down the 367 00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.920 left field line. Just he wasn't in home run territory, just in foul 368 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.640 territory, but way down the line there. So it was not just some 369 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.160 lazy foul ball behind the dugout like I'm talking about. But this guy caught 370 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:17.200 back to back foul ball almost home runs. And they were like, what 371 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.880 are the odds of this? And somebody was like the very you know, 372 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.519 winning the lottery type of odds. There not so much for Ace. But 373 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.799 you know, that was my story with a foul ball. I was close 374 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.519 but the guy that I wanted to see catch it, he caught too. 375 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.559 The kicker on that was that when Ace caught his second foul ball, he 376 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.720 was so happy that he bought a round of hot dogs for everyone that was 377 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.160 with him there. So it was a hell of a day for Ace and 378 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.599 it was also a very memorable day for me. There was also one time 379 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:59.880 where a home run ball. I was in the overhang at Tiger Stadium with 380 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.799 my nephew who's four years old. Some I'm four or five years old, 381 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.000 and there might have only been another three or four people up there on the 382 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.640 upper deck in this day game at Tiger Stadium. But I'm reminded a lot 383 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:19.039 about this particular event by two things that happened. One, Bobby Bonilla was 384 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:24.480 playing for the Baltimore Orioles, and every year Bobby Bonia there's a Bobby Bonia 385 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:29.960 Day. Benia signed a contract, a I don't know, twenty five year 386 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.599 contract where he gets a million dollars every year, and everybody's like, well, 387 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.880 that such a great contract. It's fun. But I'm always reminded because 388 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:45.599 Bobby Bonilla slams a home run into the right field upper deck with me and 389 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.920 my nephew sitting there, and if I would have just stood up, I 390 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.519 think it would have hit me right in ahead. But it was hit directly 391 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.920 at me, a home run ball into the upper deck. And what happened. 392 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.000 I did panic a little bit. You know, when one's hit right 393 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.640 at you and it's a home run, it's like and nobody else is around. 394 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.200 I'm like, this is it. And I remember my nephew, you 395 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.359 know, he's four years old. He's like, we're going to catch a 396 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.119 baseball. I want a baseball. I'm like, oh, yeah, we're 397 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.599 gonna catch one. I'm lying to him. But then here it is. 398 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.359 It's coming right at me. I panicked a little bit, and you know, 399 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.640 I'm grabbing the kid and I went down a mistake a row or two, 400 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:28.759 and it ends up just clearing my hand and you know, karm's over 401 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.799 like fifteen feet. And the long story short is this kid beats me to 402 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.160 the ball by like a foot and I don't get it. And so that 403 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.359 part was disappointing. Disappointing that I didn't just catch it. But in the 404 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:50.720 years after, I will hear It's not once every year, but it's it's, 405 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.519 you know, once every couple of years. I'll be just watching a 406 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:59.359 baseball game and the analysts will say, you know, the the toughest ball 407 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.160 to catch is one that's right at you. And I always say, you 408 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.319 know what he is exactly right. I know what he's talking about, because 409 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:13.400 that bonea ball was coming right at me. That's not really the point of 410 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:19.360 this. This was Bill James saying that there's a notion that every small child 411 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:24.760 should get a foul ball is a recent phenomenon. I would also add into 412 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.000 that if you go to a game and you're sitting in the outfield and the 413 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.920 opponents hit a home run, you are pressured at Coomerica to throw that ball 414 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:43.280 back. So and if I am judging the ranges of hey, you catch 415 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.280 a lazy foul ball like ace, like right where the dugout was, this 416 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.320 is pretty easy catch. I mean he could have just had his hand out. 417 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.400 Pretty easy catch a home run ball, you know, especially if you 418 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.840 catch it and this thing is, you know, coming at you and at 419 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:04.719 a one hundred and five miles an hour or whatever it is exit velocity, 420 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.159 and you can reach up and snag one, and it's for the opponent. 421 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.719 And I've got one hundred people in my section saying throw it back. I'm 422 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.039 feeling like telling everybody to go jump on a leg. But definitely is that 423 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:22.760 pressure throw it back. I would not throw it back. I would more 424 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:30.480 likely leave the section because people would be like, you know, I don't 425 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:37.760 know about harassing, but definitely jeering for me to enchanting for me to throw 426 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.519 it back. But I would not. I don't think I would succumb to 427 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:46.960 the pressure of throwing the ball back. But oftentimes people do succumb to the 428 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.719 pressure to throw it back. Man, and everybody cheers woo, and then 429 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.840 you know you're a hero for a second. But I don't know if that's 430 00:35:53.880 --> 00:36:02.719 worth it or not when you're doing that to throw it back. Old Bill 431 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:08.519 James speaking of Bill James, for the longest time, when somebody I always 432 00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:14.880 had my own idea about when somebody is that, who's the greatest baseball player 433 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.079 of all time? You know, I do my work and think about all 434 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.679 the different stats and everything else. This is before guys like Bill James, 435 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.800 and you know there was wins abovely above replacement and all these things, and 436 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:35.400 you know, I'd say, Willie Mays, they're all the number crunching babe. 437 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:42.320 Ruth in there, Hank Aaron, and then these guys started ranking all 438 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.760 of different players. Well well, James and however he did it. I 439 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:53.360 always liked his list and and James came up with and he also would put 440 00:36:53.639 --> 00:37:00.480 Egro league players in the in the mix too. And then this year you 441 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:06.119 probably know, I don't know last month or the month before, they included 442 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.679 the statistics from the Negro leagues and now with Major League Baseball, and some 443 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.719 people were up in arms that the Ty Cobb Society did not like it because 444 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:22.519 Cobb had the highest batting average, and then he was supplanted by Josh Gibson. 445 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.719 But you know, James had included the players you know long before, 446 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.199 you know, years ago, and he did not have Willie Mays as the 447 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.000 number one baseball player. He had Babe Ruth. And I didn't think there 448 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.000 was much, you know, I wasn't gonna argue too much about that because 449 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.639 they don't. Ruth is I think an easy one to go and put up 450 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.639 there. But his I think he did the ten. This could have even 451 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.239 been twenty years ago. They did it with his statistics talking about Bill James, 452 00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:00.239 but he put Babe Ruth one. Hannis Wagner two again, you know 453 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.599 that I think about baseball cards, that's like the most valuable one, the 454 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.559 honest Wagner card. And Willie May's at three. All right, there's my 455 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.440 guy, and then four was Oscar Charleston, and then five ty Cop and 456 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.679 I was like, what who Oscar Charleston. So even when it comes down 457 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:22.000 to Negro League players, Josh Gibson I knew who he was. Of course, 458 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.360 Satcho Page, you know, you know the names, and if you're 459 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.000 the Tigers fan, the Detroit Stars, Turkey Sterns, you know you'd know 460 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:37.920 that name. But I didn't know the name of Oscar Charleston. So I 461 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.519 can recall having to look and sing just some great center fielder and he went 462 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:47.800 on to be an equally successful manager. I don't know if James put that 463 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:53.360 into the mix, but he had Oscar Charleston above Ty Cob. I just 464 00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:01.440 have always thought out, if I got a hundred bayall guys, people that 465 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:09.360 were really into the history of the game, stats, wore Baseball Reference of 466 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:15.519 anything, fan graft guy, all one hundred of them, and put them 467 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:27.360 all together, how many would have put Oscar Charleston anywhere close to a top 468 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.159 five player of all time in Major League Baseball. Well, Bill James would 469 00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:37.800 and he did, and he for those that are interested rounding out the top 470 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:44.679 five man Old Ted Williams, the great pitcher, Walter Johnson, Josh Gibson 471 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.719 who I mentioned, and then Stan Usual at ten. But I always thought 472 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.599 that was intriguing that that was his. You know, everybody's got their their 473 00:39:54.679 --> 00:40:00.360 thing, like this is the guy I'm standing for, Bill James. He 474 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:06.039 puts Charleston. I always wonder. I haven't researched this. I don't know 475 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:13.280 where Bill James is from, and I think Charleston played it the majority of 476 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.239 his baseball and he played in a lot of different places. But I think 477 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:22.920 Indy and I wonder if there's some kind of connection and if I would guess 478 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:28.320 now, you'd like to think that everybody is just if you're if you're trying 479 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.400 to rank players, and certainly if you're somebody like James who does it and 480 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:38.719 has a numbers based you know, that's how he's a formula based that he 481 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:43.960 is trying to remove any bias and he is just good. You know, 482 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.920 he is trying to guide baseball fans, you know, for the greatest players 483 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.480 of all time using a formula. But I have a suspicion that not that 484 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.840 I don't know if he tweaked his formula with it, that that somehow Charleston 485 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:07.039 has a connect to James, whether somehow, I guess would be that he 486 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:12.800 lived by him some way. That's it. I we're all suspicious when anybody's 487 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.880 doing any ranking. He's like, Oh, no, you're just a Lions 488 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.760 fan. Oh you're you live in the state of Michigan. You're a big 489 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.000 ten guy. You know, you always hear skind of things like that, 490 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.440 because you know, oftentimes it's correct. I mean, people there's I don't 491 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.079 know how many. 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