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It's scary. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things
that surprised us around the Internet. I'm Edwin and I'm Michelle. All right,
Michelle, So this episode is going to be a little bit of a
personal journey for me, right, So I'm going to share with you some
of the things that I went through with the paranormal, specifically dealing with Turnbull
Canyon. To everyone I think that I meet, I end up talking about
Turnbull Canyon. So I am now back to like being a teen in the
two thousand thousands. I'm scrolling through the internet block Spot, Yahoo forums,
GeoCities. It was awesome and dangerous and really cool. Geo cities was dangerous.
I don't know, it was just maybe not GeoCities, but like when
you have the forums and the common sections that are not moderated just like anything
goes click link, it'll send you to like whatever. They'll catch your IP
address with anyway, very dangerous. But as I'm there, I'm scrolling down
and I find this block. By the way, the area where I used
to live was around the Downy nor Walk Bellflower Repping five six two. You
know, there's what I do. At that time. There was a lot
of this is a very important thing to me. But at that time,
by the way, like researching ghost stories, paranormal things, because I was
vice president of our local Research and Investigation of the Paranormal chapter in our high
school. You know how, like I'm that show ghost Writer. They have
like little pens for their mystery club, Like what did you guys have any
sort of like talisman? Do identify each other? No, we just had
our shirts, like our polos. Did it have a little logo on it?
Yeah? I did. It was yellow and I think I still have
a shirt. It was a little yellow tombstone. I think that says RIP.
But anyway, there was this one haunted asylum that I found and I
wanted to go there and like figure it out. So I was on,
you know, scrolling around. I found this forum and this person's just kind
of saying, Hey, we're gonna meet up by this haunted abandoned asylum and
we're gonna go from there. So me, I'm thinking, like, okay,
they're meeting up at nine, I have a car. I didn't think
of telling my parents. Honestly, I was just like I'm just gonna go,
Like, I'm just gonna go meet up. I'll take a friend and
we'll just kind of go there. And then in the comments or whatever,
there was this person I think I don't know, Kathy or something. She
was like, so you're for sure going I'm like, yeah, I'm going.
Okay. Cool. We got a group of like six or seven people
and I'm like, okay cool. They had a schedule of the guard when
they do their round, so they're like, oh, once he goes past
it like with a car, he does another walk through, we're gonna go
right after that walkthrough. And I'm like, wait, so there's some like
door or anything. It's like no, we have to hop through the roof,
go through the window, and then get in. I'm like this is
getting serious, right, Like I don't know how old these people are,
don't even know if they're teens. What if there's just a bunch of like
predators and they're just trying to get people to show up. They sent me
a link to this other place that they have already seen, right Turnbull Canyon.
Basically, there was a group of people just walking around trying to do
this investigation in this kind of mountainy area, like imagine like a little trail
park, kind of like where we went to to do the Rando Nautica episode.
Oh yeah, like devs Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going down
this trail. They're going through the valleys kind of you know, down the
trail. All of a sudden, one of them stops, stares out into
like the darkness, and freaks out and runs back the trail up to head
towards where the car was. The remaining group, like the people that were
still there. One of them kind of stops and that kind of freaks out
a little bit. He kind of freezes and starts looking out to see what
this other guy had seen, and they can kind of see this glow out
into the distance past the bushes, like something's glowing. And as they're staring
the girl who posted the thing and who's also referring me to this post that
she wrote. She's staring out and she sees a group of people and they're
kind of like going around in circles and they're kind of waving their arms,
just acting kind of strange, just like a strange fire in the middle of
them. Twenty thirty people Like they're just kind of there and a little crowd,
and all of a sudden, they all stock. One of them makes
a call like a car just like that exactly, and then they start stabbing
each other. She said that they were like a distance of like not that
far, like thirty forty feet, Like they can run at you, like
it's that runnable distance. We're like, oh, this is where you choose
to run away from a bay. Then when she sees that they start savving
each other, they're like god, they' everybody's screaming that they're just going crazy,
and they kind of see this, like the silhouettes of them like stabbing
like that, they run. Everybody starts running back. They feel like they're
getting chased. They look back and they are, in fact, somebody's going
after them. They make it to the car. They wait there, but
they just don't see anybody else. They're just like Okay, what happened,
right, they try to like figure it out. One of the events of
going to like a church and they find out people have been known to do
Satanic rituals in that area. When I found out this is like a real
thing, and I believed it. I don't know how true it was when
she shared it, but I was like, when I believed it, I
bailed on it. I'm like, I'm not going. And I'd never showed
up to that haunted asylum that really like scared me. Everybody freaked me out.
And then that really triggered the idea of Turmble Canyon, like investigating like
what happened here, And it turns out there were a couple of cases in
that place that could explain some of the hauntings and things that people I've seen.
Now, Turmal Canyon is this area and Wittier in southern California. The
area itself is dark, very creepy. If you drive there at night,
it's like it can just be you along the road because there's a road that
runs through it, and then once you get to the top you kind of
see I think it's a sand of heights that you see all the lights from
the city and people just go and hang out there. At least when I
was in high school, we used to go like get Jack in the box
and hang out, say, by the side of the road. Then they
made it like illegal for you to just hang out there because I guess somebody
always has to ruin it. I guess I was always into that creepy vibe,
you know. Yeah, but that's like a teen move, like you're
not gonna go somewhere nice, really, You're gonna go somewhere empty. Yeah.
I remember going with my friends, like, you know, just get
in the car and we're like, okay, what do we do. All
let's go to Turnable Canyon. It would just literally just drive through it and
then stop and then drive back. My friend Jonathan and I we were there.
Jonathan had these like intense flashlights where like police style, like it would
stop, turn off all the light at first, like okay, this is
creepy, and then we turn on the lights and then go drive through right.
Well, one time, as we're going through this car from behind,
it just kind of appeared behind us. It just kind of flew turn on
the headlights. We were going super slow by the way all this time,
so We're like, there was a car behind us, we would have sped
up, so we knew. We were kept looking behind to see if there's
a car. Hills. Yeah, it was really creepy, and then we're
like what do we do? We kept driving. We kind of went normal
speed and make the turns. It this very twisty road, like you have
to make these turns. You can't see in front of you. Like the
car behind us is following pace, like we're speeding up, it speeds up,
we slow down. It slows down obviously instead of passing us by.
We're like, what don't we turn off to like the curb side and just
kind of let it go because you have these little areas where you can pull
off and let the car pass. We pull off to the side and the
car slows down, pulls up right behind us. No, no, whoa.
My friend freaks out. He's nervous now, so he like steps on
and we're just like going and the car starts following. We're like, what
do we do? Like that we're being followed by a car. We're going
down to this place where there's houses now and we're going down all the way
down the hill, down the hill. We keep looking back and there's no
one there. There's no car behind us. Right. The only way that
this car could have disappeared quote unquote is if they just lived there and they
pulled into a house right, or they parked and they turn made a U
turn and go back because we lost sight of them. And that said,
we never we waited at the base of the hill. Like now at this
part, there's like lights, there's other places, other things, other cars,
So like every park we're gonna blend in. Nobody canna know it's us.
Another car showed up for a while. We were just there, so
like what do we do. We have to go back to the same place,
or we can take the round, or we can go all the way
around to go back home. So we just went right through. We didn't
see anything else after that. That's brave. I would have taken the long
way. Later on we researched stuff and they say that there are cases of
people that have been followed by cars there. It can either be like just
some weirdo that is just trying to scare people, or it could be a
ghost car, like as in ghost vehicles. In two thousand and nine,
this woman from Bellflower, she went with this bizarre claim saying that three people
from this city called El Monte try to kill her, basically saying that they
try to slash her throat, cut her jem needles into her neck, and
then throw her down a steep hill in Turble Canyon. She was getting a
ride home with three other who she thought were friends and then they ended up
trying to kill her there in Turnble Canyon. Eventually the people were caught sent
to jail, which is good. There was another case of this woman that
was dragged, like literally tied and dragged along the roads in Turble Canyon.
But the place itself has way more than just like serial killer stuff, murder
people that try to commit crimes and stuff. They also have this area that's
called the Gates of Hell. There's a set of gates literally just gates,
and they have signs that say like no trespass or do not cross, don't
go in. But it's so beat up. The rumors was that there's Gates
of Hell, like you go in there, like there's an abandoned haunted place
or whatever. Yeah, we used to go there and hang out by the
entrance and like try to get in there and take like crappy pictures with the
flip phones, like oh we we find but yeah, nobody ever sign anything
there. But it was just part of the lore. But there was one
thing. Turboal Canyon itself started with the story of a murder. And right
now we just think of like, oh, it's just the gates of Hell.
It's the accidents and the people getting murdered and the Satanic rituals, all
that stuff, all claims I kind of take more to prove if they're true
or not. But this one actually is facts. The name Turnbull Canyon comes
from murders. There was this guy, Robert Turnbull, and he was actually
an Irish immigrant. He arrived in California in eighteen seventy three and he saw
this opportunity to buy and sell real estate and he started making a lot of
money and he owned that area of Turnbull Canyon like it was all his.
The Quakers starting in June eighteen eighty seven, who were really trying to make
like try to buy it from him, and they were like, hey,
here's her offer, like take it or whatever. By the way, at
this time dollars not adjusted or anything. He finally ended up selling for thirty
thousand dollars, which was a lot of money. So he's like, yeah,
I'll accept it. By the way, this guy just would always drink,
and one evening on his way back home, he fell off his horse
and he was arrested. They're like, you can't be drunk in public,
even though he was always drunk. For drunk riding, he got an RUI
writing under the influence. So the next morning, after he gets arrested,
he gets home and he's beaten up, bloody, but he couldn't remember like
how he got into that state, you know, falling off a horse.
But it turns out he had also gotten beaten up pretty hard beating, and
he suffered a brain anerism oo and he died. Shit, this is what
the coroner said. No, this guy, this was in an accident.
He'll just fall off his horse. This guy was murdered, so who would
want to kill him? Nobody really knows who could have done that. I
don't know what technology they used back then to say like, oh, he
was definitely murdered in this thing. But it's what the story that's stuck and
the one everybody accepts. And basically from then on the Quakers were like,
oh, man, that sucks. This guy was not that bad, so
they named the canyon after him, Turnbull Canyon. Along with those true stories,
though there are more. On April fifteenth, nineteen fifty two, the
La International Airport lost contact with Lewis Powell, the captain of this flight,
Flight FORCED sixteen. This airplane was supposed to land in Inglewood and sometime in
the middle of the night, like around three in the morning, but it
never made it. So they ended up calling the captain and the crew,
but nobody ever answered. They're like, well, I don't know what happened.
Moving on, we'll never find it. That's it. Oh well,
he changed his mind. He kept flying somewhere. He just disappeared. A
rancher actually discovered who was driving around wer Whittier Heights. He saw smoke like
that morning, like around ten in the morning, and he was like,
oh man, So he climbed up one of the hills and saw that there
were flames and metal and like all this stuff on the hillside. That was
Flight for sixteen. The reason why I crashed literally ten feet made the difference.
This is just a altitude was just ten feet higher. He went ten
feet lower. It was really foggy and he crashed. Shit. Yeah,
and now people that go around looking for ghost stuff or even just regular people,
they say, wires just spoke coming out of there. It turns out
the ghost the residual of the ghost. Yep. They say they also hear
sounds like metal hitting rock, things that sound like bombs. Basically that's what
they say. Oh yeah, that sounds a lot like when metal hits a
rock, like when a there's a car crash, imagine a plane crash.
It's like there's a lot more stories. The one that I said that was
the the girl that was dragged around Turnbull Canyon. It's actually it's it's super
tragic. Basically she was shot and then dragged by two of her friends.
Her name was Gloria Gaxiola. Who were these friends drive into Turnbull Canyon and
try and kill you? Yeah, it was. It's messed up finally,
like the body was found like a Santa Boulevard and Khalima Road. But when
I say dragged, you might imagine her being dragged by like a rope behind
the car. But no, it turns out her foot was stuck on the
seatbelt. No, when the door was closed, the car was going away
and Gloria was drag ooh brutal. Yeah, they were all convicted of first
agree murder, so makes it really creepy. If anybody's around that area of
you've visited a Turnbull Canyon, have you had a strange experience? I want
to know about it. It's really creepy. Michelle and I actually got to
hear a story of this place, remember, Michelle, Oh I do.
We were We went to see Sapphire Talk and she asked her audience if they
had any ghost stories, and this guy stood up and it was me,
you and your friend Natalia. Natalia actually shared her Turnbull experience on tell Me
a Ghost Story, but this guy just stood up and basically kind of repeated
her experience of like seeing weird shapes in the bushes. The story you shared
was he was out in the car and they start seeing these little heads kind
of pop out of the bushes. When he's telling this, Natalia next to
me is like like this, like are you serious? Like this telling?
Like what is that what we saw? Because one of the very I think
the very first story on true Scary Story is Natalia and Felipe, which are
two of my friends that are were there when Natalia's story happened, the one
that she shared with you. But yeah, if you want to hear the
rest of the story, tell me a story has Natalia's version. It's pretty
freaky. It was funny. After she told that story, I googled Turnbull
because it was like, is it Turnball or Turnbull? And Google what did
you take? No? No, no, no, no, it was
Turnbull. It was Turnbull. But like you know how places get reviewed.
One of the first reviews that popped up for Turnbull Canyons don't go there at
night. It's an interesting place, like it has a different vibe. Like
when you're there, you're like, huh, you could be parked there and
all of a sudden, it's misty, right, Like all of a sudden,
it's like, whoa, we just got covered and missed. You're driving
along and all of a sudden, like you feel like what's next to me?
You feel like a thing, like you feel something. It's a very
dark place. It really messes with your mind. So if anybody's visited,
or anybody has stories about Turnbull Canyon or any areas around there, please send
them in let us know. Or if you have a specific place in your
city, or town that's known for this kind of thing. Let's hear about
it. But yeah, hold on, let me see if I have my
conclusion. No, I don't. I said it in the very beginning.
Oh well, I ruined my conclusion. We just end abruptly and abruptly.
What are we gonna talk about next week? Edwin, I don't know.
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