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It's scary. Welcome to Scary Mystery
Surprise, where we talk about scary things

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that surprised us around the Internet.
I'm Edwin and I'm Michelle. All right,

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Michelle, So this episode is going
to be a little bit of a

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personal journey for me, right,
So I'm going to share with you some

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of the things that I went through
with the paranormal, specifically dealing with Turnbull

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Canyon. To everyone I think that
I meet, I end up talking about

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Turnbull Canyon. So I am now
back to like being a teen in the

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two thousand thousands. I'm scrolling through
the internet block Spot, Yahoo forums,

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GeoCities. It was awesome and dangerous
and really cool. Geo cities was dangerous.

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I don't know, it was just
maybe not GeoCities, but like when

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you have the forums and the common
sections that are not moderated just like anything

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goes click link, it'll send you
to like whatever. They'll catch your IP

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address with anyway, very dangerous.
But as I'm there, I'm scrolling down

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and I find this block. By
the way, the area where I used

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to live was around the Downy nor
Walk Bellflower Repping five six two. You

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know, there's what I do.
At that time. There was a lot

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of this is a very important thing
to me. But at that time,

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by the way, like researching ghost
stories, paranormal things, because I was

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vice president of our local Research and
Investigation of the Paranormal chapter in our high

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school. You know how, like
I'm that show ghost Writer. They have

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like little pens for their mystery club, Like what did you guys have any

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sort of like talisman? Do identify
each other? No, we just had

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our shirts, like our polos.
Did it have a little logo on it?

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Yeah? I did. It was
yellow and I think I still have

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a shirt. It was a little
yellow tombstone. I think that says RIP.

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But anyway, there was this one
haunted asylum that I found and I

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wanted to go there and like figure
it out. So I was on,

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you know, scrolling around. I
found this forum and this person's just kind

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of saying, Hey, we're gonna
meet up by this haunted abandoned asylum and

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we're gonna go from there. So
me, I'm thinking, like, okay,

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they're meeting up at nine, I
have a car. I didn't think

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of telling my parents. Honestly,
I was just like I'm just gonna go,

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Like, I'm just gonna go meet
up. I'll take a friend and

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we'll just kind of go there.
And then in the comments or whatever,

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there was this person I think I
don't know, Kathy or something. She

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was like, so you're for sure
going I'm like, yeah, I'm going.

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Okay. Cool. We got a
group of like six or seven people

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and I'm like, okay cool.
They had a schedule of the guard when

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they do their round, so they're
like, oh, once he goes past

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it like with a car, he
does another walk through, we're gonna go

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right after that walkthrough. And I'm
like, wait, so there's some like

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door or anything. It's like no, we have to hop through the roof,

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go through the window, and then
get in. I'm like this is

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getting serious, right, Like I
don't know how old these people are,

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don't even know if they're teens.
What if there's just a bunch of like

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predators and they're just trying to get
people to show up. They sent me

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a link to this other place that
they have already seen, right Turnbull Canyon.

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Basically, there was a group of
people just walking around trying to do

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this investigation in this kind of mountainy
area, like imagine like a little trail

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park, kind of like where we
went to to do the Rando Nautica episode.

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Oh yeah, like devs Yeah,
yeah, yeah. They're going down

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this trail. They're going through the
valleys kind of you know, down the

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trail. All of a sudden,
one of them stops, stares out into

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like the darkness, and freaks out
and runs back the trail up to head

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towards where the car was. The
remaining group, like the people that were

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still there. One of them kind
of stops and that kind of freaks out

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a little bit. He kind of
freezes and starts looking out to see what

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this other guy had seen, and
they can kind of see this glow out

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into the distance past the bushes,
like something's glowing. And as they're staring

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the girl who posted the thing and
who's also referring me to this post that

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she wrote. She's staring out and
she sees a group of people and they're

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kind of like going around in circles
and they're kind of waving their arms,

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just acting kind of strange, just
like a strange fire in the middle of

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them. Twenty thirty people Like they're
just kind of there and a little crowd,

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and all of a sudden, they
all stock. One of them makes

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a call like a car just like
that exactly, and then they start stabbing

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each other. She said that they
were like a distance of like not that

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far, like thirty forty feet,
Like they can run at you, like

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it's that runnable distance. We're like, oh, this is where you choose

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to run away from a bay.
Then when she sees that they start savving

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each other, they're like god,
they' everybody's screaming that they're just going crazy,

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and they kind of see this,
like the silhouettes of them like stabbing

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like that, they run. Everybody
starts running back. They feel like they're

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getting chased. They look back and
they are, in fact, somebody's going

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after them. They make it to
the car. They wait there, but

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they just don't see anybody else.
They're just like Okay, what happened,

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right, they try to like figure
it out. One of the events of

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going to like a church and they
find out people have been known to do

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Satanic rituals in that area. When
I found out this is like a real

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thing, and I believed it.
I don't know how true it was when

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she shared it, but I was
like, when I believed it, I

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bailed on it. I'm like,
I'm not going. And I'd never showed

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up to that haunted asylum that really
like scared me. Everybody freaked me out.

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And then that really triggered the idea
of Turmble Canyon, like investigating like

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what happened here, And it turns
out there were a couple of cases in

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that place that could explain some of
the hauntings and things that people I've seen.

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Now, Turmal Canyon is this area
and Wittier in southern California. The

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area itself is dark, very creepy. If you drive there at night,

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it's like it can just be you
along the road because there's a road that

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runs through it, and then once
you get to the top you kind of

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see I think it's a sand of
heights that you see all the lights from

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the city and people just go and
hang out there. At least when I

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was in high school, we used
to go like get Jack in the box

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and hang out, say, by
the side of the road. Then they

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made it like illegal for you to
just hang out there because I guess somebody

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always has to ruin it. I
guess I was always into that creepy vibe,

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you know. Yeah, but that's
like a teen move, like you're

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not gonna go somewhere nice, really, You're gonna go somewhere empty. Yeah.

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I remember going with my friends,
like, you know, just get

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in the car and we're like,
okay, what do we do. All

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let's go to Turnable Canyon. It
would just literally just drive through it and

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then stop and then drive back.
My friend Jonathan and I we were there.

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Jonathan had these like intense flashlights where
like police style, like it would

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stop, turn off all the light
at first, like okay, this is

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creepy, and then we turn on
the lights and then go drive through right.

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Well, one time, as we're
going through this car from behind,

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it just kind of appeared behind us. It just kind of flew turn on

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the headlights. We were going super
slow by the way all this time,

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so We're like, there was a
car behind us, we would have sped

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up, so we knew. We
were kept looking behind to see if there's

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a car. Hills. Yeah,
it was really creepy, and then we're

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like what do we do? We
kept driving. We kind of went normal

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speed and make the turns. It
this very twisty road, like you have

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to make these turns. You can't
see in front of you. Like the

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car behind us is following pace,
like we're speeding up, it speeds up,

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we slow down. It slows down
obviously instead of passing us by.

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We're like, what don't we turn
off to like the curb side and just

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kind of let it go because you
have these little areas where you can pull

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off and let the car pass.
We pull off to the side and the

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car slows down, pulls up right
behind us. No, no, whoa.

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My friend freaks out. He's nervous
now, so he like steps on

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and we're just like going and the
car starts following. We're like, what

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do we do? Like that we're
being followed by a car. We're going

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down to this place where there's houses
now and we're going down all the way

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down the hill, down the hill. We keep looking back and there's no

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one there. There's no car behind
us. Right. The only way that

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this car could have disappeared quote unquote
is if they just lived there and they

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pulled into a house right, or
they parked and they turn made a U

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turn and go back because we lost
sight of them. And that said,

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we never we waited at the base
of the hill. Like now at this

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part, there's like lights, there's
other places, other things, other cars,

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So like every park we're gonna blend
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Another car showed up for a while. We were just there, so

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like what do we do. We
have to go back to the same place,

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or we can take the round,
or we can go all the way

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around to go back home. So
we just went right through. We didn't

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see anything else after that. That's
brave. I would have taken the long

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way. Later on we researched stuff
and they say that there are cases of

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people that have been followed by cars
there. It can either be like just

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some weirdo that is just trying to
scare people, or it could be a

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ghost car, like as in ghost
vehicles. In two thousand and nine,

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this woman from Bellflower, she went
with this bizarre claim saying that three people

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from this city called El Monte try
to kill her, basically saying that they

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try to slash her throat, cut
her jem needles into her neck, and

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then throw her down a steep hill
in Turble Canyon. She was getting a

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ride home with three other who she
thought were friends and then they ended up

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trying to kill her there in Turnble
Canyon. Eventually the people were caught sent

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to jail, which is good.
There was another case of this woman that

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was dragged, like literally tied and
dragged along the roads in Turble Canyon.

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But the place itself has way more
than just like serial killer stuff, murder

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people that try to commit crimes and
stuff. They also have this area that's

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called the Gates of Hell. There's
a set of gates literally just gates,

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and they have signs that say like
no trespass or do not cross, don't

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go in. But it's so beat
up. The rumors was that there's Gates

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of Hell, like you go in
there, like there's an abandoned haunted place

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or whatever. Yeah, we used
to go there and hang out by the

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entrance and like try to get in
there and take like crappy pictures with the

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flip phones, like oh we we
find but yeah, nobody ever sign anything

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there. But it was just part
of the lore. But there was one

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thing. Turboal Canyon itself started with
the story of a murder. And right

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now we just think of like,
oh, it's just the gates of Hell.

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It's the accidents and the people getting
murdered and the Satanic rituals, all

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that stuff, all claims I kind
of take more to prove if they're true

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or not. But this one actually
is facts. The name Turnbull Canyon comes

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from murders. There was this guy, Robert Turnbull, and he was actually

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an Irish immigrant. He arrived in
California in eighteen seventy three and he saw

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this opportunity to buy and sell real
estate and he started making a lot of

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money and he owned that area of
Turnbull Canyon like it was all his.

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The Quakers starting in June eighteen eighty
seven, who were really trying to make

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like try to buy it from him, and they were like, hey,

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here's her offer, like take it
or whatever. By the way, at

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this time dollars not adjusted or anything. He finally ended up selling for thirty

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thousand dollars, which was a lot
of money. So he's like, yeah,

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I'll accept it. By the way, this guy just would always drink,

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and one evening on his way back
home, he fell off his horse

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and he was arrested. They're like, you can't be drunk in public,

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even though he was always drunk.
For drunk riding, he got an RUI

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writing under the influence. So the
next morning, after he gets arrested,

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he gets home and he's beaten up, bloody, but he couldn't remember like

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how he got into that state,
you know, falling off a horse.

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But it turns out he had also
gotten beaten up pretty hard beating, and

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he suffered a brain anerism oo and
he died. Shit, this is what

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the coroner said. No, this
guy, this was in an accident.

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He'll just fall off his horse.
This guy was murdered, so who would

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want to kill him? Nobody really
knows who could have done that. I

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don't know what technology they used back
then to say like, oh, he

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was definitely murdered in this thing.
But it's what the story that's stuck and

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the one everybody accepts. And basically
from then on the Quakers were like,

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oh, man, that sucks.
This guy was not that bad, so

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they named the canyon after him,
Turnbull Canyon. Along with those true stories,

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though there are more. On April
fifteenth, nineteen fifty two, the

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La International Airport lost contact with Lewis
Powell, the captain of this flight,

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Flight FORCED sixteen. This airplane was
supposed to land in Inglewood and sometime in

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the middle of the night, like
around three in the morning, but it

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never made it. So they ended
up calling the captain and the crew,

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but nobody ever answered. They're like, well, I don't know what happened.

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Moving on, we'll never find it. That's it. Oh well,

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he changed his mind. He kept
flying somewhere. He just disappeared. A

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rancher actually discovered who was driving around
wer Whittier Heights. He saw smoke like

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that morning, like around ten in
the morning, and he was like,

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oh man, So he climbed up
one of the hills and saw that there

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were flames and metal and like all
this stuff on the hillside. That was

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Flight for sixteen. The reason why
I crashed literally ten feet made the difference.

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This is just a altitude was just
ten feet higher. He went ten

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feet lower. It was really foggy
and he crashed. Shit. Yeah,

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and now people that go around looking
for ghost stuff or even just regular people,

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they say, wires just spoke coming
out of there. It turns out

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the ghost the residual of the ghost. Yep. They say they also hear

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sounds like metal hitting rock, things
that sound like bombs. Basically that's what

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they say. Oh yeah, that
sounds a lot like when metal hits a

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rock, like when a there's a
car crash, imagine a plane crash.

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It's like there's a lot more stories. The one that I said that was

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the the girl that was dragged around
Turnbull Canyon. It's actually it's it's super

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tragic. Basically she was shot and
then dragged by two of her friends.

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Her name was Gloria Gaxiola. Who
were these friends drive into Turnbull Canyon and

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try and kill you? Yeah,
it was. It's messed up finally,

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like the body was found like a
Santa Boulevard and Khalima Road. But when

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I say dragged, you might imagine
her being dragged by like a rope behind

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the car. But no, it
turns out her foot was stuck on the

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seatbelt. No, when the door
was closed, the car was going away

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and Gloria was drag ooh brutal.
Yeah, they were all convicted of first

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agree murder, so makes it really
creepy. If anybody's around that area of

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you've visited a Turnbull Canyon, have
you had a strange experience? I want

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to know about it. It's really
creepy. Michelle and I actually got to

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hear a story of this place,
remember, Michelle, Oh I do.

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We were We went to see Sapphire
Talk and she asked her audience if they

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had any ghost stories, and this
guy stood up and it was me,

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you and your friend Natalia. Natalia
actually shared her Turnbull experience on tell Me

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a Ghost Story, but this guy
just stood up and basically kind of repeated

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her experience of like seeing weird shapes
in the bushes. The story you shared

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was he was out in the car
and they start seeing these little heads kind

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of pop out of the bushes.
When he's telling this, Natalia next to

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me is like like this, like
are you serious? Like this telling?

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Like what is that what we saw? Because one of the very I think

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the very first story on true Scary
Story is Natalia and Felipe, which are

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two of my friends that are were
there when Natalia's story happened, the one

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that she shared with you. But
yeah, if you want to hear the

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rest of the story, tell me
a story has Natalia's version. It's pretty

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freaky. It was funny. After
she told that story, I googled Turnbull

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because it was like, is it
Turnball or Turnbull? And Google what did

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you take? No? No,
no, no, no, it was

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Turnbull. It was Turnbull. But
like you know how places get reviewed.

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One of the first reviews that popped
up for Turnbull Canyons don't go there at

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night. It's an interesting place,
like it has a different vibe. Like

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when you're there, you're like,
huh, you could be parked there and

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all of a sudden, it's misty, right, Like all of a sudden,

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it's like, whoa, we just
got covered and missed. You're driving

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along and all of a sudden,
like you feel like what's next to me?

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You feel like a thing, like
you feel something. It's a very

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dark place. It really messes with
your mind. So if anybody's visited,

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or anybody has stories about Turnbull Canyon
or any areas around there, please send

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them in let us know. Or
if you have a specific place in your

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city, or town that's known for
this kind of thing. Let's hear about

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it. But yeah, hold on, let me see if I have my

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conclusion. No, I don't.
I said it in the very beginning.

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Oh well, I ruined my conclusion. We just end abruptly and abruptly.

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What are we gonna talk about next
week? Edwin, I don't know.

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We couldn't be a surprise. Scary
Mystery Surprise is hosted by Michelle Newman and

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Edwin Kovarubias. This podcast was edited
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