First part, meaning we're the first movie they were not doing like Part one
that were ever review the rest of Me in Another time, No only two
part two film retro. Here, I am the clown Princell Strangers dress now,
and I'm joined by I am Camera Kirkland, Patzer Dean camera. I'm
at the men in mask too. We feel there you go, so yes,
in honor of the Strangers Chapter one, which we're embarking on something here
because man, you know, luckily it's only two film retro. Uh Kirkland
tries to slightly put in some food so slyly it's as I had to call
it out. But Strangers Chapter one is happening in a week or whenever.
Yeah, for now, we're recording this, and then in October part two
is coming out of chapter two, and then in January February, chapter three
is going on. So it's a very bold thing they're doing, releasing films
in one three films one year, so we'll see. We could just be
fucking locked in. Oh I'm missing, Oh what the fun? What's going
on? I didn't do that, I guess to monetize. Yeah, oh,
I know what happened? My batteries dead sorry about that post. Anyways,
we could be on a very bold, shitty ride here with these three
movies, so we'll see. But I think we're gonna be there for them
all. But at least we're gonna this is given an excuse to talk about
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has come up. It's got zillos in the background. We gotta change change
into something even at least this is evil deaded up. You know, I
feel like this movie specifically, not the sequel, but this movie has come
up many times in the cast fear. We've talked about maybe Halloween and scary
stuff and all that good jazz, and we're going to talk about it today.
So as usual, we'll give our overalls. If you've not seen the
movie, bow out after that. But it came out in two thousand and
eight, so I feel like you probably have. Uh So, yeah,
that's what we're gonna do these first two movies, and then we'll be reviewing
the other ones. A last. Chapter one has just fucking gone awful.
Maybe on the mid review you'll see us say, hey, we're out,
but you know, well, I think we can have many through Knuckles.
I'm sure I can make it through the Strangers. Yeah, chapter one,
I feel like we got to wait till West Side seeds Taylor. But if
west Sides, like, if it's only at Cineplex, then Kurl, that's
come to us. But I do think this is one we should see together
because there is a good chance Chapter one could just fucking suck, but we
can have a good time watching it, you know. Yeah, So Kirkles,
start with you. What is your experiences with this movie? What did
you like? When did you see it, how did you see it?
What are your memory and then what do you think about it? Now in
twenty twenty four. Yeah, I know this one. This one's a special
one for me. I think I've only seen it maybe once or twice before
this, and this movie like truly fucked me up back in the day,
like like you know the old Dane Cook skit when he talks about like horror
movies back in the day, and like horror movies now you know they can
be scary, but back in the day they would fuck you up. Like
when you watch Jaws and you think that the shark is in your tub with
you. Doesn't make any sense, but like that's your level of like fear.
Yeah, that was me with The Strangers. Like that movie was the
first one too where I felt like I think I was maybe in like middle
school, so I don't know, twelve thirteen age when I had seen it,
and like I hadn't had like a nightmare around that time, but this
movie like gave me a nightmare with specifically one of the female masks and just
like coming into my home and just the idea of what the Strangers was fucking
terrified me so much. I I remember very vividly when the first time I
watched it too, I was at my grandma's house and I was gonna watch
The Dark Night and she was falling asleep, and I'm like, you can't
be falling asleep, Like we're watching The Dark Knight here, there's a big,
big, exciting movie. And she's like, no, you put on
The Strangers and I'll stay awake for that, but I'm not making it through
The Dark Knight. And wow, yeah, my grandma made me watch The
Strangers with her and I was so scared. I that, like it really
really really scared me that movie. And I think like now I can just
appreciate like the subtleties of what the horror is of. It's not like there
is some jump scares in it and some like there might be a couple of
loud jump scares, but I feel like the real fear comes from just the
idea of being so alone and like so vulnerable and you just don't really know
where the killers are at at all stage, and like where like when are
they in the house, When are they not in the house. How easy
is it for them to get in the house, And like you just you're
just so vulnerable in that situation. I feel like they really do such a
great job at setting up, just the isolation aspect to it. How there's
like no neighbors. It's like four in the morning, like like you just
I don't know, like like there's there's no cars, there's no there's no
dogs or animals or anything outside. Like it's just really isolated with these creepy
ass individuals just just fucking with you. And it really really left a mark.
I hadn't seen the movie since around that time, Like I think I
had seen it the first time and then probably again like a month or two
after, like like I watched it twice in that range really close together,
so it had been well damn like well over a decade now since I've revisited
it. And No, it's it's just crazy that like the effect that that
movie has had on me because I haven't I haven't revisited it, but I've
just always told people that I'm like, man, that was like the scariest
viewing of a movie I've ever had, Like like it really really messed with
it. I feel like also growing up, like me and my sister would
be home, my parents would like go out, and then it's just like
the idea of just like no, it's more so just like the idea of
like I don't know, just like preteen at like home alone, and like
my parents are gonna come home, Like just those intrusive thoughts would come in
on just fucking murders coming in, and especially when you'd seen a movie like
The Strangers that's just like prime in your mind, you're thinking about those things.
So yeah, it's it's a special movie in my heart. Revisiting now
was it was interesting because it's it's like a lot worse of a movie like
what I remember. I still think I think so, just just maybe because
I've been exposed to a lot more horror movie since then, and also like
really really top tier horror movies. Like I think the concept of this really
stands out. But there's some really weak dialogue between like the two characters in
the beginning. I think the boyfriend is just like a total piece of shit
character. Like it's just there's so many instances of like okay, their whole
like like they've had a long relationship. I would imagine, you know,
they like he proposed, didn't quite go through it, but like it still
seems like they've had you know, like a good foundation of a relationship.
If my like significant other than that instance, is like telling me that there's
someone outside and she's like literally scared shitless and he's like nah, like like
are you are you serious? Like nah, that can't be happening, Like
no, no, you stay here, like I'm gonna go out there,
and like he's just so dismissive to like her reactions and then goes out there.
Though you know at least he's he always goes out there and takes a
look, I know, thee in the basement. It just seems like he's
like so dismissive of like all of her feelings in those moments, and I
just felt like it really irked me, And it's just something I didn't really
think about too much in the like the first time I had seen it,
But now I just think there's some weak dialogue and don't really love the opening
of it, but one stuff gets going, that's where like you know,
the good the good meats are coming. So there is still some just really
fantastic moments, but I don't think I'll ever get the same enjoyment out of
this film that I ever would have like from that first few just because it's
like there's just so many like the planets were just aligning for this to be
like the ultimate fear that I had seen from a movie. So yeah,
I liked it quite a bit less than than I thought I was going to
be on just the reviewing here, but uh, still a really good movie
and just I think the concept alone is just something that really really stands out
for me. And yeah, I really like the designs too, of like
the the like the mask, and like the burlap sack that the gentleman has,
and like the creepy masks that the two girls have. But I mean
it's tough to like keep the first movie in the second movie separate, you
know, like we'll talk about that another time, but it's just I feel
like that again, like the second movie also just brings down my enjoyment of
the first movie now, like in hindsight, I just like think a much
lesser Yeah, yeah, I know you're you're right, So yeah, I'll
do my best to keep them separate for sure. But yeah, I liked
it quite a bit less than I was expected. It would be like if
someone else made a dread crome too, we hate it. You just go,
oh, you know, we didn't do that. The same hunter outfit,
but it's just like a different director. Clearly. Yeah, yeah,
Kyle gone there, He's like, I got a vision. I was like,
okay, Kyle, there you go. Eighties. Yeah, Kyle the
rate master smid go ahead. I think uh, I think these this film
for me was something that I only seen a handful of times. I think
this is probably the third time I've seen this one, and it is.
Yeah, it's just it's really i'd say unique, and does a great job
at creating that isolation feeling. And while there's definitely some instances where you question
what the main characters are doing, I feel like it's justified because it's like
they're being harassed, but the killers aren't really like they're just letting them fuck
up on their own right. They're saying he do a Kirkland isn't like he's
like, who would do that? That's what when someone break when someone's out
there to Madison was like, no, no, no, you're good.
You know. Well, I if Madison called me up and said that there
was some shit going on, like Liz mentions to her guy, I immediately
going to think, okay, well, this woman did knock on the door
and was very very suspicious. So that's going to be my first red flag.
And you're obviously in the paintball game, don't lie, that's what you're
grabbing first. I'm not going for a paintball guy. I got something heavier
than that. The dildo. Yeah, this guy has the fact that they
actually had a firearm. That's a huge saving grace. But he definitely blew
it. I don't blame him for holding up good, but I think holding
up in that little area like that was a big mistake. So you're saying,
if it was a final close that was in the room, you would
have picked like I not played war Zone clearly, No, no, no,
no, no. Yeah. It's a good allegory though, because I'm
still pretty sure that like they're like they're a huge percentage of North America that
gunfire, death by gun or by mistake or someone misspot and stuff like that.
So it is like a realistic thing. Especially the music was turned on
and again I think, like then they write killer on the window, like
I think they set them up. That's why I like they did it after
Yeah, but that's why I think they set it up so good. You
said it in a way that man, it's all he saw on that and
then decided to shoot his friend, Like yeah, apctually a killer. No,
definitely definitely happened after. But I liked that they were able to set
it up with just tormenting this couple to the point where they keep going in
and out of the house. The phone is, they put the phones in
the house, they take the phones out of the house. They're just fucking
want them so well, And I really really like that. And I like
too that the villains are just you don't know how many there are. At
first you think, Okay, there's definitely just this girl, and then eventually
you catch on, okay, there's one more, but you never you don't
even know, Okay, is it the same girl. No, it's a
third girl or a second girl, but the third member of this party.
So it really fucks with you as if you're trying to catch up with what
you're seeing. And I think that each villain does a great job at covering
one another's flank. I'd say too, like the scene when the one girl
was walking out of the bar and the boyfriend rolls over to fucking prone decimator
and then it's just you know, big dad, he's just you know,
get out running towards him like they're just they're they're covering each other. Is
so freaking well, and I think that's that's great, and they just they
really stand out as killers. H just just terrifying. But I think the
overall I'm gonna digress here, the main like plot here of just them being
isolated here and remote is great, and they just kind of set the tone
and then you see things like you mentioned, Travis, it's just it's a
movie that really uses your peripheral vision. You start to see things in the
background or see things in the corner of your eye, and half the time
there is something there. But what I really like is half the time maybe
there isn't something there, but you're just that maybe anxious watching this film that
you're thinking maybe something is there. You just you're trying to piece those things
together and what they don't show you, they allow your brain to work the
rest of it. And I think that's really really good for a horror movie,
and I can appreciate that kind of approach. But overall, it's it's
got a very dark, dark, grizzly ending, maybe with like potential silver
line, but we'll talk about that in the In the sequel that never never
happened. But yeah, I think that this film it's it's it's a good
time. It's a really really good time sequel never happened. I'm excited to
hear Tayo's thoughts on the Prayer retro Praying eight retro for the movie didn't see.
But yeah, so I saw this in two thousand and eight. I
saw it in the theaters, which was a very fun time because every time
somebody popping out our stuff, you get that crad with like oh my god,
like you got this like oh shit going on, and like oh look
at that. So yeah, I also want some licorice. Yeah I'm not
that guy, I think. God go check out our Civil War review.
But yeah, it was very fun time, much like everyone else like held
up this huge standard and if I have I just watched this keeps happening on
our retros. I just watched this last Halloween. I watch this October seventeen,
twenty twenty three. My letterbox tells me, so some ofow this happens
where I watch a movie and then especially with our Patreon retress, it comes
up like, oh I didn't need to watch The Strangers like again because It's
tough because I think that there's other movies that did what this did, I'm
sure, and not one so that I can list off right and I should
have, right, But I feel like this was one of the early ones,
or maybe at least in our generation of people. Whatever we are,
what are we gen zers or whatever the hell we are like for millennials,
So I feel like in this generation it it was the best example, if
not one of the best examples of the stuff's around, and you're not getting
the loud jump scare, you're not getting the music cue, it's not being
zoomed in on. It is the fear of that build up, and it's
the first The first act is like the setup, right. I feel like
the end of the first act is when she knocks to the door door and
says like, Oh, it's Tamara here or whatever, writer's Tamara here,
and then it proceeds. Second act is all the build up, and third
act is the explosion. I think the third act for me, it's tough
because I really don't have many problems with the first tracts. I think,
especially the second act is so fucking good. It's like I can see why
stuff like how do we end this, and I think it's like a right
ending. I don't know if it needs to be shorter. Our twenty six
is still good. I like that they didn't like I think that this was
a two hour movie, it would really start to chug along. And I
think already at our twenty six it's like those last scenes would live Ty run
away, and it's like, Okay, I think we've hit what we can
because I think they're doing such a good job of making it. And that's
one thing wait till we get to the sequel. But I think they do
a very good realistic betrayal of what this situation would be like. The Killers
feel very humane in the sense of not like, you know, being nice,
just in the sense of their movements where they cover what they do all
believable actions for the most part for me, are believable with the humans,
and there's nothing like a huge, big action set piece. So that's a
tough thing for me. Where it's like the third act is I won't say
like, maybe it's like a tad underwhelming, not to the sense of like,
oh I don't like because it's just that it doesn't match the other two.
But at the same time, I don't think this movie would have fit
like a huge fight of them taking down the killers, right, Like,
I think it does fit for especially if like in this generation I have to
pull. But I feel like there wasn't many movies in the two thousand and
eight era that were like this. They were big monsters, they were supernatural.
This was just a scary home invader, very realistic, as realistic as
possible in a movie world of what would happen here? Right. I think
they do a very good job. I think LIFTI is a really good lead.
I think that helps with having someone that's like a better actress than some
people that might get thrown into like this, like the Final Girl situation.
Scott Spebn's all right, you know, I'm sure. I'm surprised you didn't
show him out to here. I thought you would have been a massive fan.
You know, remember when he's given it to keep begg and so raw
on the Underworld solo DP as we talked about, was that actually the guy
that's like the half with the long hair and everything. Oh yeah, I
knew I knew him from somewhere, but I remember I'm like, oh,
that's a guy from Strangers. Look at that but and I like the setup.
You know, it's no funny in our movie. It's like dealing with
like a marriage and a character that doesn't you know, hasn't decided that was
not on purpose thing. But I like that setup enough. I think they
don't dive too deep in it. There's many flashbacks, so I don't have
many cons with it. It It is tough where it's like once you see,
especially because I just saw in October. I'm not gonna be like Martin
Schrison and be like, oh, this is like a roller coaster ride now,
like I don't know about that. But there is aspects to the movie
where I think you need to not watch it for a while. And as
someone that just saw it, like well, what I'm in uh November December,
Jamnia for in March April May, so like six months, I think
I need longer because I remembered quite a bit of the beats. But when
I take a long break, it's definitely I think this is a movie that
every almost half a decade for how We'm like, oh, I want to
watch The Strangers because I think it's very well done, and I think that
they're the build up the second act. How We get through the little things
how and even when we do to get to some musical jump scares, it's
not like a so loud it's in your face. There's some warrant and stuff.
So I feel like the anticipation has done very well, and I think
this inspired tons of films, tons of directors. I think it's a film
that doesn't get a enough credit because it's you know, it's not like the
I don't think it's an all time or it's not a shining It's not like
a Nightmare on Elm Street or something like that. But it has its place,
and I think it came in a very important time for the genre because
like, I don't know, let me just look at horror films in two
thousand and eight and see what they're rocking, you know, while you're looking
that up. I like what you've said there. And I feel like because
this was just such a like a raw fear, like like the first time
I saw it, like it really just stuck with me, gave me nightmares
and just totally like scare the shit out of me. I feel like,
especially like the slow moments, that this moment of the movie has not necessarily
slow, but maybe like quiet fear of like the threat is there, it's
terrifying, but there's no like crazy violin or something to be like right in
your face, a sort of like a loud crash to really like just jump
you and jolt you. I feel like that's what kind of laid the seeds
of just like my my love of horror movies that do stuff like that,
whether it's like a hereditary that's just like a slow burn. I guess Shining's
like that as well, which came of obviously much before this, but just
just those types of movies are so much scarier to me than something like what's
a jump scare? Philm movie doesn't smile like that? I never saw you
guys told me not to. Yeah I'm scary, I'd say, oh,
it was it. I can't remember five nights a threat, Freddy's guess the
video game, Like just just that idea of like the jump scarest one.
I think I guess you're right here. I feel like smile just completely blocked
him my mind, but I think you're right with that. But like hell,
like that's where we even are now, like saying like all inspired like
inspired us, like in Drenna Rohne there's moments in that movie that we want,
like, oh, we want that type of scare moment where it's there,
it happens, but it's not like a super loud There's one jump scare
with music in our film, which for some reason people tell me, oh,
it did actually get me. So I'm like, oh, I think
that's a good thing because we didn't overspam it right. And like the movies
horror movies ever in two thousand and eight, and these are not. I'm
not saying these are bad movies. I'm saying, like, look at the
type of genres that were out there, clover Filled, The Happening, Saw
five, One Missed Call, which is like I think, when you answer
your phone, you're dead. I never saw it, Quarantine prom Night,
which is the traditional slash or the I the one where Jessica Album goes blond
and sees things shudder let the right one in Mirrors would keep their sublan rest
Stop Repoman, joy Ride two, The X Files. The closest one,
I'd say is which I just saw for the first time this year. Have
you guys ever seen Eden Lake? Well, that sounds familiar, sounds very
It's Michael fastber Young fast better. Before he's with like a star or anything,
him and his few wife go on a like a hull like their honeymoon,
and then you know, shit happens and stuff, and then it's like
it's really disturbing and stuff. And then like look at even two thousand and
seven Hills Have Eyes to Wrong Turn two. There you go Taylor thirty Days
of Deaf Dead, Silence, the Evasion, I am legend saw four twenty
eight weeks, the Miss and then you have like a Halloween two you have
vacancy, which for some reason I thought vacancy came after this. Have you
ever seen vacancy? Is that the one in the hotel? Yeah, that's
what Luke will Suke will see and Kate Beckence. I thought vacancy came after
this, and that was like a like you no, I spit by like
someone like, oh, let's do that. But like Paranormal Activity, Disturbia
fourteen oh eight, Hostile Part two, like oh my god, Dacan and
number twenty three. So there you go with vacancy. But between like two
thousand and seven two thousand and eight, they were like the big time horror
movies were very high concept, like you pick up your phone, It Kills
You is the same year that Like the Strangers comes out, So I think
that's another reason why it stands out because like one last Search, I mean,
just going to see what were two thousand and nine horror films Jenner's First
Body, Friday, The Thirteenth, Uninvited, The Fourth Kind, Final Destination,
Another Saw Orphan, Daybreak, The Human Centipede, The Human Scented,
Underworld Splice. Apparently there's a movie called taint Light, which was a god
spoof. I have Highlight. Yeah, it saw me land that it is
sent to. So again, not bad movies, but just that's what I
think for us too and people our age. Stranger stands out because I feel
like horror movies back then weren't in the believable elk, right, Like,
for the most part, they weren't like, h this could happen here.
They're scary because it's jump scary, scary monster performance, but it's not they're
very high concept stuff. So and I think that's where now we get a
lot more of that nowadays, right, And I feel like in the seventies
there was a lot of very you know, more of course stuff like the
extras, but there's probably more slashers and thrillers. What are you? This
is a taint light? Taint what is this? Boy? Everyone should go
search up taint light. They just shot this on like a cam corder.
This is crazy little budget pictures, fair enough, and they know it.
So but yeah, let's get this fill. I will say I'll bring this
up in the sequel because I was trying to think of things that were cons
for me, and this happens in the sequel as well. I don't understand
what is with men's characters needs to Hey, there's killers out there. I'm
gonna take the gun. I'm gonna leave you here. You hide, and
I'll be back seeing a bit like that's what. That's one decision in this
movie. Because I'm actually with to you, we most decisions, I would
believe, maybe because I'm also bad. When Emily hears a noise outside,
I'm like, oh, that's probably nothing, like I'll go check it out.
But like I'm not like fucking she hadn't seen anything. Of course,
it's a little bit different. But with that decision when he decides like I'm
gonna take the gun, I'm just gonna run out there and just like go
it's like they've shown outside multiple times, you're miles away from anything, Like
on foot you're miles away from anything. So it's like that's a moment where
I'm like, I don't believe you would not take your wife with you.
Wouldn't you just both go at that point, like I feel like two versus
the three is better than hide in the house and good luck. Like they've
already gotten in the house, they're already doing shit. So that's like a
weird moment where he's just like, I'm gonna make a run for it and
I'll find something. And then what happens when we see him next, he's
fucking tied up, like wherever he ran to it didn't work out for him.
So I think that's I said, I think the third act for me
is not bad, but more of the weaker side where it does start to
I have some problems with it, but uh that that's probably like my biggest
con of movie where I go, eh, that doesn't make sense and they
just need to do the classic horror movie thing like they got us split up
for a reason right where I think you could just capture them together. I
don't think you need to split them up like it's three verses two they have
knives, like and your gun is like, he's not a great shooter.
He shot his friend, you know, so it's like, well, I
guess he is. He shot him right away in the head, so headshot
shot. Yeah, it could have been a three v three if he uh
was a little it could have been yeah. Just man. That was another
thing that just bugged me so much more on this viewing was like the friend.
It made me laugh actually because it was the lad from Always Sonny in
Philadelphia. It's his name, Glenn Howardon. I never realized that it's hilarious
because he's just like a total piece of shit in Always Sunny, and he's
just hilarious for that aspect. And he shows up and like his his on
beyond that he's bringing, it's like the same sort of douchebaggy energy. He
like just walks in there, and I'm like, of course, it's fucking
Dennis, like a shotgun to the face. So that was kind of funny.
But why would like when you enter the house, how does he not
say anything? How does he not say like, hello, is anyone home?
Say their names? Maybe because he's literally there for them, like and
because in the front of his vehicle get fucked up to at this point like
someone through the class, right, So it's like you're already on edge.
So I agree with you because I feel like I did not all think of
that, and in the past someone has brought that up and I forget that
con but you are right in the sense of it. It is like like
I like the setup of you shoot your friend at extantly, but it is
like you have to take some leaps to get there, right of just like,
hey, I pick you up, Like we we know that he was
being followed. Obviously he does not know, but I feel like he kept
motioning and moving like he knew something was obviously really fucked up, and he
probably was apprehensive to say anything out loud, and the last thing he probably
thought was he was gonna get blown away. But I just killed her because
either way he was fucked So because he called and said, you know the
plan. Yeah, you guys haven't seen promising young woman and yet have you?
What was that was promising young woman that uh it's a girl that directed
the woman that directed uh salt or her first movie. But there's a kind
of a something similar to that there. But yeah, because all speedman just
calls it up. Didn't go to plans, so he's just shout up like,
oh gotta clean up this body and stuff. But but Tarr, would
you just like the second you walk in and no one's like in the living
room this music playing, are you gonna call it? Like you don't want
to like walk in on them banger or something, or maybe you do.
I don't know what cooks are into nowadays. I'm I mean, if if
someone throws something at my windshields, he took it pretty well too. I
feel like he didn't freak out that much too. Oh you know, he
did take it pretty well. Yeah, I mean it's I don't know,
I don't know what you do in the situation because you're gonna be apprehensive.
The last the thing with most people these days is the last thing you ever
gonna expect is that you're gonna get murdered. You're gonna get killed, You're
gonna walk into a situation like this. You're just you're not gonna expect it.
And even though the least, yeah, the least, I mean,
even if people are watching these movies and stuff like that, like I feel
like you still have a degree of apprehension because you just it's that, it's
that doubt, and I feel like a lot of people, there's there's this
analogy here that I reference a lot in cryptic clues, have to ryptc clues.
But there's two types of people. There's a person that's walking in the
dark and they see two lights up ahead of them. They either a think
it's an animal and they turn and walk the other way, or B they
think it's just like a light or some light. Why would they think it's
like animal, like holding up flashlights? Like what the fuck's going on?
Like like reflective eyes or some like that. It's just going on. You
think it's a man, Oh what's up? And put the other flashlights a
fucking deer and talk. The person walks, bear, cougar, whatever,
kills them. The other person thinks, oh, you know what, Uh
it's no, sorry, I got that wrong. Fuck no. The person
thinks it's a predator or an animal and they leave. The other person comes
along, ignores it, thinks it's nothing, continues on and ends up getting
killed because it's actually a predator. And that's the thing here. This guy
didn't analyze the situation as being something very potentially dangerous or serious and he walked
into it and he got killed. It was either by the friend, which
was what happened, or was going to be by the strangers, and the
strangers controlled the situation to literally prepare for themselves for any outcome that would happen.
And while these things are minoring conveniences, they're still outcomes that they are
prepared for. So what would I do in the situation. I think,
because we've had so many discussions that I would attribute us being maybe some of
the few people that would be able to to cognitively understand, Okay, this
is a situation. We need to like, someone's probably getna get killed here,
someone is killed, Like, we need to handle this differently. We
need to get on the phone, call the cops immediately. If someone throws
something at my windshield, I know it's not going to be one of you
guys. You guys would never do that. Well, that's a first red
flag. I don't think he thought like lived tylers like haha, like you
to hit his car? Like I don't think the guy was thinking that.
Plus who knows me the guy was fucking drunk or high too, Like that's
all. That's all headcanon that he didn't say anything. Maybe he's just like
no, I mean, maybe like a buzz. But he was pretty coherent,
especially when he was in the house and he was like turning his head
listening like he seemed pretty in tuned, like Okay, something's really fucking weird.
Yeah, but maybe he's high here and you know, good Ganja.
The shitty thing too, is like the boyfriend, he shouldn't have shot without
confirmation. That's the other shitty thing. And but again that's attributed to the
strangers. They were tormenting them and and I think that's why exactly they're using
fear, and I think that's what makes such a great trio with villains because
as they tormented them into fucking up and making such a boof mistake, I'm
fine with the shot because in this moment, you don't like these people have
already been in your house. You don't think anyone else has come in your
house. You forgot your friends. So I'm finally blowing them away and everything
so that that would make sense to me. But I'm definitely the person that's
gonna be cautious. As I said a second ago, I will tell them,
oh, it's probably nothing. But every time I go to close the
gay or go check, you know, I got my baton with me,
right, like, I stay strapped. I do it as a strap.
It does, and it has a spot. It has a really good spot
to the house where it's if you did not know the lay out the house,
you would not know it. So it's just but it's like right by
the door. So yeah, I have I have a thing. I'm sure
people are hopefully they aren't watching I do stuff. Like every single door upstairs
is closed, so if you had to get downstairs, you'd have to open
a bunch of doors. I put this chair right in front of this door,
so if they would open it and walk, it would roll. So
like I have a bunch of fucking booby traps for like, because I've never
had a house this big before. It's like part of town or something.
But no, it's good. It's a fine town. And then if you
open up this door, that's a fucking dagger that comes down. You don't
put the right code in the fucking daycare, like kids, it comes kids
walking. But yeah, rp to the wedding guy and he didn't make Yeah,
I agree for the most part with like the fear aspect of just like
from the shot I guess, like I I I have no issues with that,
just because you're so on edge, especially for that guy. It seems
like he's never shot a gun before, like he eas and like, yeah,
he knows that these killers are after them. Like I feel like it's
just an adrenaline thing, like you're shaky, you got like just bad trigger
finger, Like you're just anything that moves comes through that door, like you
have your your girlfriend next to you, Like, Okay, these are my
allies. Anyone outside is the bad guy. So I have no issues with
that. I I do like how in the moment he still thinks it's like
the killer and then he's like, why didn't you have a mask? Oh
my gosh, exact line reading from them fucked up there? Uh you want
to go again, Scott, No, keep it in like like why didn't
have a mask on? Like he doesn't know right away that it is his
buddy, and then it's just like a really gut wrenching moment. That's that's
one that really stood out to me too, Like the first time I had
seen it when he when he shoots his own buddy, it's just like man,
this movie is just getting worse and worse for our heroes air quote.
Heroes are protagonists, but uh yeah, just as simple, you know,
knock at the door. Hey guys, I'm here to get you, like
fuck man, like get us blow away Scott shoot him twice? Yeah?
What does he wear? A mask? Yeah? That's good. And then
let's uh, let's talk about so they they come to this cabin. Uh,
it's supposed to be romagnite. There's roses everywhere. I'm just telling call
them by their characters name. So if you want to give me one or
their act names, you want to give me one star review for not reading
their character name, fuck, go ahead. Scott's speaman. He was planning
the fuck this weekend. You know, he was playing roses in the bedroom,
Roses everywhere. Poor my man just sits down on the bucket of ice
cream himself thinking should I fuck this ice cream? I don't know, but
I'm gonna eat it first. Uh. We get to reveal that, which
I like. The pacing of the reveal that he proposed at a wedding,
which I think is unless there's some like fun tie, I think always a
little cliche. It's the other person's day. Now he did it, did
seem like he's gonna do it. At the facts, that's fine, but
like, don't do it people's wedding. Even if the Brian groom's like,
oh yeah, that's fine, deep down they're like no, no, no,
don't fucking do that. Like day, would you like to if me
or Kurtas pought the question out of our girlfriends or wives on your day?
I would actually love it. If you guys did, I would have no
problem with it. I think that'd be really magical. He's lying to right
now. I think like after the we've had the whole day, everything has
been great, and then we're in the reception, like you know, I
remember Madison's walking down the aisle when you're sucking out, I'm gonna put my
mask on my bro lapsack. Yeah, she starts walking behind me, Madison.
It's like a chain. So maybe one in one hundred if your friends
like Taylor. But either way he proposes doesn't go well, we never get
a reason. But I'm kind of fine with that because like we don't need
like a full on, like twenty minute scene of wise. Liv Tyler doesn't
want to get married. She don't't to get married for whatever reason, right,
there could be x Y and z uh and that starts the little turmoil
cigarettes and that's when she goes, like we said, just a knock of
the door, which that's where I'll get into the trivia. It is based
on a true story, but very loosely. None of the three people or
the killings is true. It's just kind of a small situation that is.
But Tam, what did you think about to set up with the uh oh
sorry, you're gonna say something. I was just gonna say that that inspired
by true events thing too, Like the tag at the beginning, I feel
like that's another big aspect that just fucked me up as young as the first
time I've seen it. I'm like, this happens like, oh my worst
fear, Like this is a real thing. Yeah, but uh yeah,
very loosely, yeah, very loosely. They stuck it around two for the
second movie. Those bastards. They're really uh just leaning on that. Yeah.
Sorry, So what was your question, trous your thoughts at the beginning
of the opening the couple where you oh, yeah, no, I mean
he was youth playing to just oh he wanted to fuck DP He's like I
did this underworld the back door access was going down, but yeah he was
not the case. Yeah, the ice cream, the wine just unlocked.
It's like a chastity belch. Yeah yeah, so he it's just it doesn't
go his way and she is crying and depressed and all that shit. But
it seems like they were going to reconcile because I mean, yeah, they
about to get it on. They're about to get it on. Yeah,
I wish he like opened the door. When then he was just falling naked
and just erect out. They're like, can I help you? Can?
I like, pour Tomorrow's out there looking for tomorrow and he's just like hard
as the night. Just Ray go like yeah, but they're gonna reconcile.
I don't know if I think she was gonna say yes at the end,
because she did put the ring on, but like I in that moment,
I think she was just down for some some like uh yeah, no revenge
sex pity me. Oh the revenge, the pity that sounds awful. I
never would want that experience. And Emily dies and I go back on the
dating scene and so I was like, fuck the pity out of him.
You're like, come out, just give me a handy and I'm gonna call
a night. Okay, thanks, pity, put yourself out of fuck.
The pity at me sounds like yeah, like like what I want to get
the clinical definition of the sorrow and compassion cause by suffering misfortunes on others.
You said, like the fucking character in Wedding Crashers, Will, He's you're
Will Ferrell who instead of wedding crashes, the funeral crashes and he goes to
people that you're for the Yeah, oh my god. Well yeah, the
whole intro I think it's it's a very long slow burn, but everything about
it I think is great because it really establishes the tone. Again, they're
alone and you feel that they're going through some stuff and the last thing you
want is a couple divided, because there OWDs a survival are better when they're
a team. But they're having these problems. He leaves her for a bit
of time though she's alone, and you just you really are feeling like you
are alone there in this situation with this person, and it just it really
helps you connect to the character because you spend this extra time with both of
them, especially with Liz's character because she's i'd say more screen time Liz's character.
Who's Liz Liz? Uh? You know Hulk's girlfriend Betty Ross? Yeah?
Boy, where are you in the name Liz? From? Is her
name Liz? Liz Tyler? How many times have you seen Lord of the
Rings Taylor? Have you ever seen Liz Tyler pop up in the credits?
Fuck? No, I haven't. I love Elizabeth Actually Flora the Rings and
the Hulk your big defender, and this motherfucker think her name is Liz Tyler
for two decades now, all those comments we get like learn the cast.
So, yeah, you said they're better united than together, So why do
you think? Can you answer me why Scott's Speedben decided it's best to run
in the forest leave her there while he is Oh he was full of bad
decisions. Yeah, absolutely, And I mean that stems from his doubt over
her. When he comes back, his pity, Yeah, he's questioning had
no pity and a clear mind, but now I'm pitiful. Well, he's
questioning her, her stance on where her phone was and all that jazz.
And it's just when he comes back at he's pissed. There's just so many
red flags, blue balls, blue balls. Yeah, you can't think went
beat off. That's why he did what He just puts that foot up out
there. He looks up, see some lights, that deer from the first
Moe's back. Hey, Scott, back on it again. Hey, you
know what, you know I'm thinking I'm meaning too hard on the guy.
This is a guy who he got turned down for his marriage proposal. All
the ship's going on in his vehicle, the stranger people, and he was
raw hard ray to go for some pity slash revenge sex didn't even get to
insert. So you know what, he he might not have a clear mind.
The blue balls alone can make you don't have a clear mind. This
man's going through a lot of stuff. So you know what, I take
it back, He's he's at a tough night. He died with the fullest
balls and died with that sucks. Yeah, they would have stabbed in the
balls, just would explode. That would have been his death. But it
like a Marty Dom it would have it would have just stabbed him and just
explode and took out at least two of them, like scary movie. Maybe
on the roof stuck in man, the Master trying to pull him. They're
like, man, I hope that because this guy hasn't directed too many things.
I was like, oh, man, another person's reused strangers. That's
great. It's a hasn't hasn't hasn't been talked about Nolan. Here is the
review, you know, but it's right to you were going out, We
went on Tangent. Was there anything else you want? The opening and the
couple, Uh, there was one other thing. Uh, the opening with
when they approach and they knock on the door and they ask if Tamara is
there. I was googling it because I was just kind of curious, like
what the history is on this? And I mean it's core. I don't
think there's anything to it aside from it. It's just how they check it
to see if victims, their target their victims are home. Oh, if
you don't answer, then I think you're I think you're fine. I thought
you were taking my trivia away. Yeah. I think it is just that.
I think it's just seeing if someone's home, because that's the reason,
right if the lights are on, there's like a fucking party going on.
You don't answer the door, They're like, well they're not. They didn't
pick a different house. I love it if they picked like a hundred house
party and then it just got fucked up by some like sixty orgy or something.
Yeah, but it's like the football team that's going on. It's like
the football team, and they like they're trying, like the little strangers like
antics on them. They just got like, man, the mask is fucked
up. They like dry hump them to like send a message to them.
They don't kill them, they just embarrass them, you know. So if
it is tomorrow, the answers like, what are they doing that? Yeah,
that's me. She's just like, here's my boy friend deer. Hey,
what's up man? We lost power? We lost power? Oh I
couldn't tell you. Hear from the light this deer standing there with the like
and he say, I'm the killer. I'm believing I'm not that. I
love to go back, man. She goes back to the pin up girl
man in the mask. Yeah, so that's a good one. Yeah,
Like there's there's two people in there, oh god alone. Yeah. She's
like, yeah, not that one. Yeah, we saw that brudette right,
she's in there. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the guy. Like,
well, it's a deer like, oh, like she has a pet.
No, Like he's standing, he's talking like I've killed the year before.
But yeah, but not like this he's talking, he's his own flashlight.
That reminds me of something Emily showed me this like uh study or something
of like, if women have the choice if they're in the woods to take
the left and right, if one is a man they don't know and a
bear, most women will pick the bear. And then mad were mad about
the study because mad that women picked the bear. I get why women.
I get why women picked the bear. But my pitch family was is,
yes, if it's a questionable man that sucks, is just a bear.
But the thing is, if you ever have to fight for your life,
you and the bear, you were dead ten out of ten times. The
man at least you could maybe fight it off. So it's a big it's
it's he's standing in with he's a really friendly bear. I can't really participate
this because I'm not a woman, but I might take the flashlight bear.
And then next after nine, yeah, your blue balls rackeding up there.
Well, yeah, I was this whole sad, this whole almost near month.
I've been wondering because I've been seeing You've been pent up. You're waiting
for the pity fuck pity this guy? Ready, you gotta the pity ed
it. That's the new meme. Instead of standing there naked in the door
frame, it's you with the flash light like, let's you got a photoshop
that now? The silhouette deer? Yeah, like can you fuck the pity
out of me? Always continued to so I was just the bear the bear
analogy. It made me realize because all I've been seeing is online and these
spider Man groups to like people m J choosing the bear over Peter Parker,
Like what the fuck is this? And now it makes sense? Oh yeah,
I canting recommend a lot of bear ports. That must have been the
same reason. But what am I gonna say here? Yeah? And then
yeah, so anything else to say on the opening before we get to some
of the middles here, it's a good opening, Like that's good. Yeah,
I like it. I think it's perfectly paced. You know, takes
that bath or hair dryes, fucking like that. Good for her. I
guess that's something I forgot to mention. I said it in my overall but
I just found like some of their dialogue to be kind of weak in those
moments. But I do like just the setup of it opens and they're obviously
upset, but you don't really know exactly why. And then I like how
it's kind of, you know, pieced together. I feel like there's another
movie that I'm thinking of. Yeah, starts with an A that maybe does
it a little bit better, but uh yeah, I think it's Adventures trying
to crawl. I know, I know what it is. Yeah, I
saw, I saw the gears going in your head. I'm like, oh,
he doesn't like getting it. I already alluded to that at the beginning.
This movie in no way inspired, if anything inspired inspired, Like we
said, like those type of non jump scares, those moments, but I
didn't even put together like oh right, yeah, they were like had this
marriage and this like or this like rocky start and everything insults injury. She
has a bath and the roses still in there, like take all the roses
out, you know, just so like here's slapping the man here, but
yeah, she needs some smokes. They go, they were gonna bang it
out. We talked about the knock of the door. They think she's just
lost. That's where something and Especial gets a sequel. I think they just
do such a good job of even the knock of the door, the slow
opening. They open the door and the light's out so you can see just
kind of her face but not exactly her face. She just walks off into
fucking nowhere, and I like that. The guys like, should I go
check on her? Like you think she's okay? Ty's like, oh,
I'm sure she just has the wrong house. It's like in the middle of
nowhere. It's fine, I do the same fucking thing. I ain't going
out there, but like, I love the build up and it is very,
very creepy and already like at the start, it's like, okay,
this is unsettling, just even the way the actress like says the name and
stuff. And then it happens again and then he goes get smokes. That's
when shit really goes off the topsy turvy, lots of noises going on,
phone line gets cut. You see the man, the mask he's in that
that's that the poster, that's that shot I'm talking about. That's just like
a great sequence that kicks you off right there where the phone gets disconnected and
you're more thinking about her and the phone, and then just the background it's
there, he's there, and just slowly you see shadows, it's you know,
sometimes in focus, sometimes not. Sometimes he's gone. Great stuff,
and then it just rapidly builds up. And I don't know how much just
to talk about here for like for myself anymore, just because like I could
just be going over the scene and be like, oh, that's great,
that's great. But like, I think everything they do for the build up
of these people doing these things, even the stuff with the car is like
like believable stuff as far as like they you know, the tires and the
glass and everything. So I think this is like all masterfully done, and
it's just like one thing after another, like man, these people are just
like they're fucked, and like Taos at the beginning, it's good. You
don't know how many are out there. You keep seeing dessert masks, you
don't know what they have. So I think it's just very very well done
start to finish the whole kind of invasion or invading, whatever you want to
call it. They must have had a new poster for it, or like
new title, just poster, I guess, not title, because back in
the day. I remember very vividly the DVD. It was just the man
in the mask and he was like dragging someone like by their legs. Really.
Yeah, my DVD always wants to look at Liz Tyler one Elizabeth Tyler.
No, I just again that image just terrifying me, that the man
in the mask is just scary imagery. Oh yeah, now I remember that
one. Okay, No, that's the unrated cut. So I wonder if
there was a regular cut and then you had the unrated one. But yeah,
you could be right. And I also might have had a bootleg copy
of this back in the day. I knew a guy in that. I
know I did. That's why I maybe it's the you know the unscript did
you have your grandma had? My dad probably gave it to my grandma,
which probably means it was a bootleg. Yeah. I don't even know where
I was gonna go with that. Yeah, about beginning anything else? You
gonna shut up with the invasion? Uh, like you already kind of touched
upon just the whole is tomorrow here? Like it's just really creepy, especially
when she comes back and like does she say that I can't quite remember.
She says the exact same thing, but just like, are you sure?
Yeah, are you sure she's here? I want to know tomorrow's here.
You don't lie to me. But uh yeah, it's just I think it's
it's multiple things. Of it's it's a girl that you can't see her face,
she's asking a really bizarre question at the most random time at night,
and yeah, it's just so many things are just not piecing together. So
uh yeah, yeah, And I think it's just like off settling, right,
because you're just like, hey, what's going on with this situation?
So do there any thoughts on the invasion? No, I think it's I
think it's great because you just it sets up like kind of like a foreshadow
where she thinks that it's a bad guy coming, but it's it's just her
boyfriend at the time. And it's interesting because that's kind of what happens later
on with the guy and they just didn't learn from I guess from that mistake,
but how could they have expected such a thing? But I think the
home invasion is great because they're banging on the windows and you just you feel
like you're safe in the bedroom, but you're not safe in there, and
no matter where you go in this house, you're just you're exposed. So
yeah, I think they did a really good job. What did you do
in that situation? Taylor Madison went out to get you smokes? You're home
alone, You open the window and you see you see Burr lapsack man.
Just like right there are you grabbing the fucking your weapons? It's something heavy
that you're gonna grab the lamp that you lived in, not even high.
She just like sits there and just wait, like fight them with a lamp,
Like what we sucking there? The thing that the thing that would catch
them off guard is if you just open you open up the blinds and you
see them and you don't scream, start being like that joke I was gonna
say, strip and haked. And when they get in there and they just
see you, you gotta get rock hards. So they're just like, what
the fuck's going on? And you gotta get some butter the lather myself up,
so I'm like I'm slippery. They can't like carry in the mirror from
you just remember carry oh right, that yeah, I forgot. I didn't
know his name was Carrie carrying. No, it definitely is you. You
remembered his name, but not live Tyler's name. But gotta fund yourself before
you can fuck anyone else say that the yeah, exactly, you got a
mind fuck them. No, I just like like they never really go and
check for a knife, like I know, and that's the streets. You
just gotta get a knife. You just gotta like and you gotta go by
numbers, like if you see just one there, that's when you gotta strike.
You can't wait till they all bunch up in your as fuck like you
gotta you just gotta go. You know, you either have to do that
or you gotta choose to run, just like almost right away and just like
let them be sprawled out. Also, you wanna wait for your boyfriends in
that situation, I said, I don't think the lamp post, which is
like sitting on the ground, what's the right call, like at least hide,
do something. And that's one thing I will say. Another pro for
this movie is tons of times where this movie is in the dark and very
little of it is like, oh, I can't see the fuck's going on,
Like yeah, you can tell it's a well that's set. Like at
one point she's in the woods and it's it's like I can see everything going
on. But I'm completely fine of that because I would take that over what
we've complained about many times. Because even same thing when that lamp thing,
she's in a room, she takes the lamp off and like the there's no
lights, but it's like it's not really that dark in that room. So
I and I'm fine with that. But uh yeah, get a knife and
hope for the best. Get too at least you know, I'm getting some
with reach. I would I would prefer like a fucking pull, you know,
take the curtains off of the pole, just oh yeah, so you
can just get but then they might see you though, Right then that's one
window where you can see, Like I lets you want to do Taylor's playing,
I want them to see me. Yeah, I'm beaten off in front
of yeah name, I'm gonna like poop at the entrances to do some like
biological defense, just really fuck with them. He got even more fucked up
than the killers. Light the bags on fire, expecting to stump it out.
You just fucking burn alive because they just sit there and just let you
go, you know. So or I keep a flashlight, right next to
the door. So when lady he's coming for tomorrow, I'm just fucking shiner,
right. I like the deer. My boyfriend Deer taught me this trick.
They have the right idea of like they he knew where a gun was,
get the gun right until the people because the strangers don't have a gun.
So like, if his friend doesn't show up, he at least kills
as we see in the sequel, they are they have a weakness to shotguns,
so so it would work. He could have took out one and then
it's a two two situation. And if it's like he takes a man in
the masks and like then it's like two girls. You know. Yeah,
so like there's there was a chance for success. I agree to here.
I don't know if that room was the best, but I do see the
play as far as me, that was the only room without windows, right,
so I could see that being the playoff. You know, we've done
that in cod where we take certain rooms with they're small, but they got
on entrances, so you know, true, yeah, yeah, I feel
like it's also you know, I was kind of meme and obviously I would
have my ideas of what I would do in those situations, but like also
live Tyler is very emotionally like distraught in these moments. She's like a just
a fragile lady in this moment of like had to say no to her,
to her her boyfriend, possible potential fiance. I also will say, I
feel like anytime you're about to propose, if you don't know the answer,
if you don't know what's gonna be yes, like maybe it's not a good
time to propose. I don't know, maybe that's just my my myndset,
Like it's like I can't remember this year, so for now. And Kirk
was like, well, say said no, took out of the cabin.
There was roses everywhere. We'll do the whole topic. And I'm like,
can you bring up that clip of Chris saying like you should know, bro,
you should know so well it was his girl, you know. I
don't know. I feel like there's people that do it's soft because I've never
been in that situation, but I feel like there has to be many people
that thought the person would say yes and they say no. Yeah, I
guess you're right, Taylor knows speaking from experience, Oh yeah, big time.
I was I gonna say for oh yeah, fucking some deer. I
found out pastard oh dear another aspect of this movie in the early early portions,
I think it's probably make them a deer a deer. Still great photo
though, because bring it up again. It actually looks like it could be
the stranger's cabin, like the cabin they get the man Taylor is taking.
If you know the meme, it's of the guy Jack Hays stand it at
the door when the veterroom's dark, and he said, the door in the
hallway lights on, but he has made request that guy's only up but pretty
much I want that. But even I guess you could just add antlers on
him and I'll accept the antlers like that. That's that's fine to me.
I was expecting nothing more than just handlers. But fuck doesn't get at it
though you did a good job. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, who knows
in those situations, you know, That's what I was going into. One
of the scarier moments for me watching this movie was when liv Tyler has that
realization that like someone was in here, because like I think it's the smoke
alarm at first, right it falls on the ground. She comes back,
it's on the chair, and then later on she has her phone that's all
fucked up, and it's just like there's moments when it's like, Okay,
I know I put my keys here or something, you know, like I
misplaced something. But like in that moment when she is so dead set for
sure that this smoke alarm fell on the ground, no one is here,
like that should not have happened, and it's just like, ah, very
very creepy. And up until that point, like that's the first instance of
us the viewer even thinking that they're in the house. So I just think
that whole sequence is it's so well done. Yeah, and that's where they
get you, right, That's where we talked about where it's just because even
that fear would build up and you would start overthinking things. That's where it's
like, oh, yeah, I do this, I do this, but
it's like it's not ever never in that that mindset, right, true,
you're all over the map. So yeah, and then as we said,
Scott speaking decides this plan where he's like I said, he's gonna take the
gun, not even leave with the fucking gun. He's gonna take the gun.
He's gonna go up trying to find help. We didn't see the scene,
but that doesn't happen because they just catch him in tie up. So
big fail there, Live Tyler, Epic bad luck Live Tyler runs around for
a bit, then there's just like a lot of running. She runs out
of the hot came, runs back to the came, runs out of the
cabin. Like I said, I don't know like if it needs to be
short. I don't know if there need to be something else there. It
just I feel like it's almost near the part where she gets covers, like
okay, like I've got my fill here, and it's I guess to the
like I said, could contribute to them that they don't do her like a
big as kick or scene. So it's like I don't know what should happen,
and I'm so fine at the ending. I don't think it brings it
down. I just think it's not as high as like the the kind of
opening sequence. But they end up getting them and a very brutal scene.
I do love the last shot of them kind of get together when they hold
hands and she has the ring on, So it's a good kind of like
kind of realization for him that she would have said yes eventually or did think
about it, so good moment, but then they just proceed to get gutted
for I don't know, probably several hours messy, which I will say good
on the movie too, another you know movie with a that did this,
but like the fact that they started with the phone call and the showing the
gun and the bloody house and everything. I think that was smart because I
think if you don't do that, a lot of people originally may just bowed
out because for the first fifteen to twenty minutes it's just like our relationship drama
and people be like, what the fuck is it's called the Strangers Like it
was just because they're strangers to one another. Now like fuck me, it's
super waste of time movie. But uh yeah, they get killed and again
this is where another thing too and a happy like luckily they don't in the
sequel expand on, so I'm happy. This is the thing where this can
be scary than a monster is on the you know, Invasion Apocalypse, when
it is like we've talked already, but the oh, why are you doing
this? And just because you're home, and that's where it's like there's no
motive there's no reason. It's just that you fucking happened to be in the
wrong place, wrong time. These people just want to do these evil acts,
so there's nothing you could do. You didn't piss someone off, you
didn't do this, you didn't do that. It's just you were on track
for the Stopple Force, unfortunately. And that's scary stuff because that's stuff that
gets your mind going to fuck, Like, yeah, anybody can get you,
right, that's the thing. It's like if they just pick you.
So I think the very whoo, the hunter yeah, or the tear to
the very end is that's what I love. Like, like I said,
the ending third actor like it's fine, but I think the ending I think
is very strong as well. And then you know kids finding are nine one
one call and she made it through, I guess. So the fucking jump
scared at the end. I hate that scene so much. I feel like,
I don't know, it probably scared me as a young and but just
like knowing that it's like they're just going for like one last jump scare before
credits. I hate when movies do that too many in this one right,
so like all we gotta know what you know? That thing in horror movies
where it's like like it's it might be a nice resolution, and then it's
just like jump scare, like right at the end, and and then roll
credits like they're just trying to squeeze one more out of you. So you're
saying, we should a movie where you do that, but we don't get
the jump scare. It's greater than it cuts to black. You know you
should do that. Actually scene is the jump. I was gonna say,
you know what, that would actually be good. You do that, make
it feel like it jump's gonna happen, and it fades a black. Everyone
has something like, oh that's good, and then you bring right the scene
right back in. Then you do the fake jump scary like fuck er as
you got me? Oh yeah, save that good idea? Yeah, I
oh yeah, it's it's funny. That was something I think maybe around the
time that I first saw this movie, someone told me that, like the
phone call at the beginning of the movie, that is what the true event
was, Like that's a real like nine one one phone call, and that
just like stuck with me. I'm like, holy fuck, that's crazy that
they would have put that in the movie, like a horrific nine one one
call if someone just finding a murder scene. But I mean it added to
the fear. It is a good moment because you don't you don't know exactly
what's going on. It's just just something happened. Just to clarify, it's
in trivia and I meant to bring up earlier, but this was the story.
According to the director Brian Bertino, the film is partially based on instant
he experienced as a child. One evening, a stranger came to his door,
asked for someone who was not there, and left. Later I was
found out the other homes in this neighborhood had been broken into that night,
So that is the extent of the story. So literally, just the knock
is pretty much the story. And like, I guess they broke in,
but I don't think they went on like a mass murder and stuff. So
yeah, I don't like that. Oh that's perfect. Yeah, and his
name is just Deer. That's it. Like, yeah, that's fucking yeah,
that's that's imagine you see that in the forest, the antlers, you
don't know for sure because there's trees, so you're like you sing their branches
and you're just like Hey, what's up. I'm dear. Oh man,
this is one of the best, like the Columbia lady. You know,
we should have made this the GBS logo. Fuck, yeah, we should
do that. It's like a parody in one movie. We'll make a company
have this logo. Man, it's sad because like people will listen to this.
But I feel like, you know, the Strangers retro's not gonna do
the same number as X Men ninety seven are doing. But fuck, we're
like, there's gonna be a blooper's best and this has the goal there because
man, one of the funniest things, the funniest things we've just stumbled upon.
But yeah, and say that in the photos please. So I want
to hit that with Dylan. And we never explained it. We just take
some of the Strangers, you know, got it? Would you want to
cast that character in a movie? Now? Oh yeah, for sure.
Just deer, just a reoccurring character, and yeah, not a horror movie.
He's just a guy who's like a deal, you know, tough both
versions. I popped in the chat for you guys. Good, thank you.
We should make that the new GV discord, like our group chat with
Dylan take more. We should replace him, Yeah, we should do that.
So Dylan has no idea, but yeah, we should replace Morbus with
the deer guy. We shared to get on that. Uh, Taylor,
While you're on that, what did you think of the third act in the
ending? I think that I mean, it's it's quite sad, but as
it does feel like it's a very long time with Live Live's character here because
she's going off to the barn and then you know, okay, they're just
they're really they're not dragging it out in like a bad way, but it
definitely feels like it's prolonged because she gets on the radio and she's crawling back
and this the one killer is just following her the whole time. I don't
know, you don't really get anything out of this aside from her just suffering
for about fifteen minutes, which it's fine, I guess, but it just
felt like it was a little bit too too long. Yeah, but once
we get into the house and things kind of get really crazy there. I
actually like the scene where she gets in the closet but as she's going into
it, the one stranger just walks in front of her but doesn't turn around.
Like, actually know it's her. That was freaky. Yeah, that's
one of the I remember that being like one of the moments of just True
Fear. It's I think it's the most successful jump scare actually in the whole
movie. I just think she gets in the closet, looks through the blinds,
just sees deer shine the light. Yeah. But that's why I wonder,
to me, if like, you don't suppose Scott's Speaman, and then
if it's not just fifteen minutes of just them getting her, if it's fifteen
minutes of them getting her and him, I feel like you would feel a
bit fresher, and I feel like it'd be a bit more of a like
a different dynamic. Wouldn't feel as long, you know, but yeah,
that's true, I wouldn't. Yeah, And you have to wonder too,
like what were they doing with him? I guess this whole time and they
just taken the shit out of him? Did they detain him because he just
appeared they just throw him through a window at the end when they're ready to
fuck with them, right, Yeah, I think they're just they just were
having them tied up ready to go for the Uh, they'll heavo at the
end. You know, yeah, yeah, that's true. And they we
got forgot to mention too, the kids that the kids talk with the strangers
too, right, Madison was what they do. Madison was whenning when the
kids got to the home, like what the kid was doing, like touching
the dead woman, Like dude, oh my god, I know. That's
That's something that bothered me on this VIOO too. It's just like these kids
that are just super like, let's just investigate this. They see like blood
everywhere, Let's investigate this further. They see dead people on the ground.
I'm gonna touch this lady right. Here's just the troublesome Mormon kids. Yeah,
I don't know, I just seem so unrealistic in that moment. I
don't know. They're curious, I don't know, curious curious what does a
dead bar look like? But uh yeah, anything else specifically, I have
some trivia, But anything else specifically about this movie, I don't think.
So okay, so trivia here unless Kirk, when you have something. Sorry,
I was just looking for this. I'm curious. Why do you have
a deer head during the filming in order to get an actual reaction from liv
Tyler. A director would tell her where to expect the loud bang, but
they would have the little the loud noise come from a different area. So
there you go. Uh, this makes sense, I guess from the smaller
step, but still doesn't happen all the time. The film was shot in
chronological order, so they went from beginning to end. Many with the Mormon
kids at the beginning, didn't I want one call. I doubt that.
I doubt they're like they shot that. I can't come back a couple of
days do that. But I think just got to clean it up. I
think just the stuff with the main cast. Probably many theaters across the US
were sent faulty reels of the movie containing sound problems, which made for a
few moments into several scenes and the movie being filled with nothing but static.
Most of the audience did not realize this sound was a problem, since the
dark overtone and a loud background music in some scenes made the static seem like
it was part of the movie. So there you go. So it was
they chose to do that or it was a miss. No, it was
faulty that these things had static in them, but many people didn't think anything
was wrong in the movie. They just thought it was the movie. So
there sounds like the cineplex theater. Yeah, pretty much sounds like my experience
with The Conjuring Fuck. The filmmakers tried to design a house as one that
your brother could have lived in and you could have grown up in in order
to make the audience feel more attached film, which I think they did a
very good job. I feel like the house feels like a very house that
I've seen a hundred times in my life of you're going to a cousins of
friends and they like it does feel like it doesn't feel like a movie set
house. It feels like a house. So I do like that the movie
was not shan sign actual house. It was shot on a sound stage,
so interesting. I think they did a good job there to say your brother
lived there. That was weird. Details The quote was your brother could have
lived in it, that your you could have grown up in it. Yeah,
I don't know that the Deer it looks like the house from The Deer,
and it does. It's the same guy the exs Deer. Shots of
the house were filmed at a real farmhouse. The filmmakers were surprised to discover.
The property had a barn garage for us and a long enough road,
which is reminded me when we filmed sometimes we find location bag this is everything
we need, fantastic and it's like six scenes, but like no, it's
all ten ten walk radius, you know, like we're gonna find in that
house one day and then it's just gonna be us. Dear flashlight, Hey,
can we yeah, can we film in your barn? Yeah? This
is our friend, live tire Live. Tyler suffered from toms alitis during the
shoot. Before any filming with the strangers, Terra has in a couple lived
Tyler would run laps, do jimming jacks, and other physical activities to get
out of breath to help her simulate panic of her character would be experiencing,
which was like, oh, we should do that more in the future.
Uh. According to the director and Lifty, their final original script had much
more of interaction and dialogue between the victims and strangers. This was cut in
order to keep the intruders mysterious and earie, which I did like here because
they don't have like a motive, like it is like like there's a like
like they just want to kill them. Right, So it's like they're just
talking about really nothing. So no, that's that's something that I think makes
them that much scarier is that you don't fully see the details, Like when
what's her name, Dolphace comes to the door, and like you can see
like it's it's a human face, like you can kind of see a nose
like some eyebrows, but you can't see the details. And even when they
kill them at the end, they take their masks off and you can kind
of see like like a human head, like you know, you can't see
their their frontal features. But I think it's something that just makes it eerie
because I'm like expecting a big scar or something on one of these characters make
them just look like a like a fucked up killer, but they probably just
look normal. And you know that's and like no dialogue really like they say,
well that is tomorrow home. We killed you because you were here,
Like that's pretty much all they really say. And I think that's something that
they kind of lose when we go to the the second film is the you
know, the mystery aspect of it. Taylor waiting for this movie, as
I was saying with a deer, how many deers that it en I'd probably
go like a uh, I'll go like, at eight deers out of ten,
I'm gonna not get two points just because of some of those slower moments.
While I appreciate the slow burn at the start, I think there are
other times where it's just a little too too much. But I think other
than that, it's it's pretty damn good for a horror film. I think
the intensity and playing with your peripheral vision is great, and I like how
they leave it too. As I said, they leave it to your mind
to really fill the gaps and let your mind do the scary stuff for the
film basically, And uh yeah, I think that the characters, the three
of them, are very very interesting. Ah yeah, this is something that
I'll I don't revisit this film a lot, but I'm gonna have to.
And now that we're getting more in this universe, it's actually it's made a
lot more enticing, and so I'm glad that we're going to expand upon this
and at least get to learn about the prequel, about where the maybe some
of the origin of these characters and why they're so fucked up and what they're
doing. Where have you heard this. I read it, and it's supposed
to be before chapter one. I don't think so. I think it's a
full reboot the first act of this movie. Yeah, I do think that
people are prequel. That's what it's saying on Google. Yeah, on Google,
pretty couel to pray it night. It'll serve as an origin story to
the two thousand and eight home invasion at Star Lift Tyler. Where does this
say this on Google? But like, is it just the Google sentence or
is this from Wikipedia or something like IMDb? I think is what it's sourcing
it from. I don't know how to pray it and see IMDb. I
don't think that's the case anymore. I think it's like a reimagining these fuckers.
I don't know if you gotta say these fuckers, but I think at
one point, like we'll get into the second one. The film was announced
in two thousand and nine, so I think you pull this up. Just
watch The Strangers two thousand and eight for the first time. Why is this
getting the seacl two months ago? This is recent? Can you read it
out? I want to know. I thought the movie was meth The concept
is very limiting for how the story can go, making it odd there is
going to be another one if you like. If you like the movie,
isn't it better that the killer's motives are and what not stay ambiguous? This
aspect was a good part of the first movie. Love the detail that even
when they removed their masks, they never showed their faces to the camera.
There is an infinite amount of good horror novels left to be adapted. I'm
sure many original scripts getting pitched. This shouldn't be filling a slot edit.
I am dumb. And there has been a sequel, and now question is
why is this getting a prequel trilogy. I understand why the movie is scary.
It could happen to anyone home invasion, but the scary part is we
know nothing about the killers. I do like that he just said, I
am done. I'm sorry about this. Is that true? Though? I
thought let's see I think let's see the entire Strangers prequel trilogy's landing in a
year. I don't know, maybe because like I thought it was more rebooted.
I think we've talk about with that trailer, it looked like he was
more let's see here, but I thought it was I thought it was like
a reimagining. I did not think it was a prequel. Kirkling, give
us your score while I do some more digging here for the Strangers. My
score for this movie. If you want to follow Taylor, go eight years
out of ten with this one, eight flash leg years, which you know
I was starting off by saying, like I liked it a lot less than
I was expecting, which eight at ten it's an acceptable score. But I
still think for me, like that is just such a major drop because in
my mind this was like the scariest thing I had seen and just like one
of the best made horror movies ever. And I think anything less than like
nine point five, like nine, like, I think that is just a
major major drop off from kind of just where it was in my life.
But who knows, maybe I can just close that chapter on this fhere and
I won't be scared of strangers anymore. If Lady comes looking for tomorrow,
I know exactly what to do. I got my dear flashlight radio to go.
A lady comes looking for tomorrow, Yeah, well lady, you think
that's her name? Lady comes? If lady comes, yeah, like,
because there's Dolphase there looking for the Deer look for the Deer. But no,
Yeah, I'm glad that we did this because I hadn't seen the movie
in over a decades, so it's it was fun to revisit and uh yeah,
I'll leave it there. Oh I didn't know Richard Brack was in this
new movie. That's great. He played the gross guy in a Barbarian but
he's always a great character actor. IMDb or Wikipedia, well, actually,
hang on, I will look up Wikipedia, but there, I was just
gonna say, I'd reaffirm it. The trailer says witness how the Strangers became
him the Strangers, So they're doubling down on this, but so IMDb didn't
say it. There's an interview that just came out May six with the director
Big Exclusive talked about the release dates. I try to search the word prequel.
That doesn't come up at all, and then origins origin story. Okay,
actually say pretty coqel. It's like the movie that came before the first
movie, the pre sequel. Let's see original original original original original original.
Nope, okay, let's do one last thing here. I am. I
think I'm a like a nine out of ten. I think I know it
might sound high but like I have minor cons but I think what it does
well. Yeah, it could be a little short, or there could be
some things alligated to a different time as far as the one twenty six,
but I think they do good job not overstaying they're welcome. I think it's
done very well. Like I said, I think it's one that you can't
watch over and over. I think it has you know the moments, and
if you know when they're coming, they feel a little less than but it's
kind of like how you make you feel in the moment, plus from how
I felt the very first time, and now I just feel like because it
has been such a big inspiration, it's one of these things where it's just
it. I'm happy to give it to flowers, you know. So yeah,
I'm gonna go nine to ten. I feel comforable that maybe it would
be more like an A eight and eight point five quality, but maybe there's
some legacy stuff in there. But let's see. So last time Wikipedia cited
let's see because they say let's see. They say chapter one will fall similar
premise to the first film, takes place in the same continuity as the first
too, and soone's acting as a prequel, which is very strange because like,
I don't know. I guess we'll have to see so I guess it
is like a prequel, but like I don't. I really don't think they're
thinking of prequel in the sense of, oh, like you're gonna learn about
the Strangers. I really don't. I think it's just, hey, we
want to make strangers killing people and they were dead so or were they I
don't know. We'll tell about the sequel, thank you very much. We'll
be back for Strangers. Pray at Night. Tublet the sequel before we get
to the next one and won't be boring. Bye.