WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:40.399 Hello everybody, and welcome to episode two twenty six of GameSpot After Dark Hour, 2 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:45.759 your number one podcast for all persona sichos. I am your host this 3 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:52.159 week, John Luke the Fool Psycheke joined by Michael the Chariot High Am, 4 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:56.359 Hey, that's what. Did you look up the arkana and see which one 5 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.719 matched up with me? Or is that just because of Chia's chariot? No? 6 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.039 I I thought. I thought about it, and I was like, 7 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.640 what one would Michael be? And I was like, I think you'd be 8 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:10.560 the chariot. Thank you. We're also joined by Jess the Empress cogswell. 9 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:19.400 Wow, wow, I'm so flattered. And we're joined by Jake the Magician 10 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:26.319 Decker the Magician. All right, I'll take it all right. Well, 11 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.359 actually, in the context of Persona three, you're kind of the worst, 12 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:36.480 yeah, Kenji the dude wants to smash the one, the dude who's who's 13 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:41.200 ready to throw it all away. It sucks, okay, all right, 14 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.439 But in P three P for the female route, it's so you're kind of 15 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:53.400 the best too, you know what I'm saying. Yone. We're joining and 16 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.439 buy an all star crew this week to talk about a little game called Persona 17 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:05.120 three reloaded, and I mean you just wonder president reload not reloaded. Oh, 18 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.200 you're right, Yeah, that's that's the matrix, isn't it. Oh? 19 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.240 Man, I'm already sucking this up. Yeah. We're joined by an 20 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.439 all star cast to talk about this. We have a Jess who reviewed the 21 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:20.159 game for Game Spot give it a nine out of ten. We're also joined 22 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:24.240 by Michael Hyam who reviewed it for I g N BOO nine out of ten. 23 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.080 Uh. They were joined by Jake, who didn't review it but has 24 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.800 been playing it. Jake, I'm very curious on your perspective because you're a 25 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.439 Persona three first timer. Correct a little bit. I've played. I've played 26 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.120 four Golden, I've done five to five Royal, I've done Strikers. Although 27 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.120 I've been around the block. You're I think a lot of people this is 28 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.960 going to be their first four eight a Persona three. So that's perspective I'm 29 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:54.599 excited to hear about. H Yeah, what's your Game Spot after Dark review 30 00:02:54.719 --> 00:03:04.680 score? I haven't finished it, so I don't know. You got to 31 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.520 finish it, Bud. I'm I'm in October fifty hours forty five hours in 32 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:14.120 or so I'm getting there, hoping to finish it this weekend, so before 33 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.840 after October fourth, after October fourth. Okay, so I've seen that. 34 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.319 Yeah, okay, I have your thoughts on that, but I don't think 35 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.360 I can talk about it here because yeah, I'm actually not at that point 36 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:31.479 yet. Is it different? That's all I want to know. Oh, 37 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:35.680 okay, I still know what happens then, all right, yeah, yeah, 38 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.960 yeah. However, there's extra context leading up to it. Oh, 39 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.400 there's based on some of the hangouts. There's a lot of extra stuff in 40 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.639 the game that I thought was really cool. I was like, because I've 41 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.800 been watching Georgia play it, it's her first time, and and like there 42 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.560 were scenes I was just like, what's that in the original game? Like, 43 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.439 no, I don't think it was, And like, I think some 44 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:01.680 of that stuff's pretty cool personally, I like don't know how to talk about 45 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.319 it without spoilers. But there was like the one scene where you get to 46 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:15.000 like interact with a certain character. Uh, what I think you said that 47 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.720 interact with this character? I mean maybe if you're I don't know, I 48 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.319 don't know how you feel about this character. Maybe maybe that's how you reacted. 49 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.079 Oh my god, Okay, Yeah, No, I was just saying 50 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.720 that, like, uh they they they're adding more scenes to certain characters that 51 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:40.560 I was like, okay, like that's cool. Uh And and for me, 52 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:42.680 I'm just like, oh, they're like this is it feels like they're 53 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.639 what I trying to say, like it I feel like every character is kind 54 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:54.680 of getting more moments that like humanizes or like adds to their their motivations in 55 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.800 a way that like, like not that it was needed necessarily because I think 56 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.120 the original Base three so strong, but like it some some of this stuff 57 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.759 feels a little like substantial in ways that are maybe not immediately apparent, but 58 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:11.279 like as a whole picture, I think it just adds more. That's one 59 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.319 of the Yeah, that's one of the biggest things that I that really I 60 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:20.240 think justify Reload in many there are many things that that this remake does incredibly 61 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.959 well, but one of the things I think is most important to me is 62 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.680 the texture that it adds to a lot of it's the male party members because 63 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.879 they didn't have social links in fest or male portable route. They did with 64 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.040 the female route and P three P, which I thought was great, but 65 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.279 because back in the day they're like, no, hanging out with your bros. 66 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.160 You can't do that. That's kind of give you, will give you 67 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.399 Kenji the Magician and yeah, I fucking hang out with this. Yeah, 68 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.040 I know, dude's a fucking clown. I'd rather chill a joom peay. 69 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:54.160 But so in reload, they give you they're not social links, but they 70 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.800 are social events, uh I would call them. And these pop up every 71 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.240 now and then and they basically play out like social links. And so you 72 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.879 get these really sweet scenes with Aki Eco and June Pey, with ken and 73 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.319 Coramo too, and this adds a lot, It adds a lot more depth 74 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.519 to those characters that I that wasn't there previously. And I really appreciate that 75 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.480 because you get insight into some of the things going on in their life and 76 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:26.319 so. And one of the things that I noticed is that those those social 77 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:30.079 scenes with the with the male characters are freshly written for Reload, and they're 78 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:34.199 really well written. They're like, they're they're very touching, and they're they're 79 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.839 well acted, and they do add a lot of texture at the game. 80 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.439 In contrast, when you go through the normal social links, you can tell 81 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.240 that there's a there's a big difference in quality. It's shocking. I was 82 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.560 kind of shocked that they how much they didn't change the translate original social docuse. 83 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:55.279 I like, I've played that game enough times that like certain lines are 84 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.279 burning in my brain. I was like, wow, like this is like 85 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.600 the script is almost completely unchanged, for better or for worse. Speaking of 86 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:08.360 Kenji, his final social link, I found incomprehensible. I did not understand 87 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:13.439 what the teacher was saying in that context, and I had to ask someone 88 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.800 who'd played it a bunch to fill me in. And then I was like, 89 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.439 Okay, I guess that makes sense. But this feels like a direct 90 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:24.639 translation, not a not not not localized. I suppose. I do want 91 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.680 to say, though, we're kind of like getting into it, and I 92 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.959 would like to like hear Michael sim up his review just some of her review. 93 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.959 Do you have the two biggest Yeah, viewers, that's good, that's 94 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.319 a good idea. Just why don't you go first? Since your team game 95 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.560 spot in this case? Yeah? Yeah, I mean so I gave it 96 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.560 a nine out of ten. I think that I don't know. I guess 97 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.279 I guess what I ended up kind of saying is that it is the best 98 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.480 way to play Persona three story and to experience that story, and I definitely 99 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:59.759 stand by that. I think it's overall fantastic. The there's not really a 100 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.399 lot in terms of the plot points that are changed. It is basically a 101 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.560 direct, you know, remake. It's not doing the Final Fantasy seven treatment 102 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.639 where it's doing this whole little spinoff thing it is, or even something like 103 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:16.240 Royal or Golden right, Like, it's not elevating it in that way at 104 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:22.120 least, But I think that there's enough there that justifies, you know, 105 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.199 buying this version, playing this version. I think the game is beautiful. 106 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.839 The music is fantastic, you know. I know a lot of people were 107 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.600 nervous about that because it really does have a very like beloved soundtrack, and 108 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:39.200 I think that they absolutely did justice to it, and the new tracks are 109 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:46.720 amazing. Michael Yo, So I Justin and I share a lot of the 110 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.480 same views. It turns out, it turns out we share the same brain 111 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:54.879 cell. But yes, it's corny anime. Just hey, whoa, whoa, 112 00:08:54.919 --> 00:09:01.080 whoa, don't put that on me. But also yes, my review 113 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:09.600 was it got pretty personal because P three is probably the one that hits me 114 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.960 the hardest. And has for many many years in a way, P three 115 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.399 have been my comfort game. I've replayed it like four times all the way 116 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.639 through, and there's just something comforting. Even though as as like dark and 117 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.519 unsettling as P three may be, there's something about it that I feel a 118 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:30.240 sense of comfort in that in that in that world, even though bad shit 119 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.679 is happening all the time. I think I was allowed to do with the 120 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.639 core cast and sees I just I love them dearly and I identify with all 121 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.080 of them on some level, and this is this is by far my favorite 122 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.080 persona cast. So going into this, there are a couple of things that 123 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:48.919 really stood out to me, and one of them is the voice acting. 124 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.120 And I dedicate like a whole section of my review to really talk about the 125 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:58.200 voice acting, because this is an all new cast and from even from my 126 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:03.480 preview, I was utter impressed with how they were one able to recapture the 127 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.919 same spirit of the original characters, but to make them their own, so 128 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.000 everyone sounds so familiar, yet you can tell that this is a new, 129 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.720 enthusiastic take on all of these characters. Because like this this game was originally 130 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:18.960 recorded, like oh they already made, they made this game in like two 131 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.960 thousand and six, two thousand and seven, so all these years later, 132 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.200 it feels like voice acting has a new standard, And not say that they 133 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.399 were bad back in the day, it's just things were different. So now 134 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.279 with with these new voice actors having fresh takes, fresh perspectives on characters that 135 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:41.519 I already knew and loved, fantastic across the board. Yukari is Heather gonzalez'z 136 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:46.720 Yukari's absolutely incredible. Don Bennett is I guess, absolutely incredible. Ahan Trasab 137 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.759 for Akihiko, Like he's probably the most different, noticeably different from Liam O'Brien 138 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.159 from back in the day, but it's still very much Aqui Hiko as I 139 00:10:54.200 --> 00:11:01.240 know him, and Mitsuru sounds so close to the original act. And I 140 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.759 think my favorite is is you know Robinson as June Pey June Pay, Like 141 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.279 he he puts his puts a thousand percent into June Pay and he has some 142 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:13.360 incredible moments. That dude is so goofy, but he has so much heart 143 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.080 and it really comes through in the voice acting. So that was like one 144 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.639 of the biggest things for reals man, Like, oh my god, that's 145 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.399 one of the major things stid out to me, including the music. As 146 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.080 just had mentioned, a lot of the new songs are really you've when you 147 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.120 listened closely to them, it feels like a celebration of Persona three, And 148 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:35.879 it feels like they really understood what made that soundtrack so special with using the 149 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:41.360 like similar instruments, similar melodies and harmonies, and also the way that the 150 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.840 songs are written, like I said, with the lyrics calling back to so 151 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.799 much about Persona three, that was one of the big ones. But also, 152 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.600 as I said, like this is a very personal experience for me, 153 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:56.159 and so when I talked about the story and aspect in my review, I 154 00:11:56.200 --> 00:12:01.639 talked a lot about myself and that I've play this game four times. I 155 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.960 know what happens. The story doesn't hasn't changed really at all, like Jess 156 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.399 said, but my perspective on it has changed a lot since the last time 157 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.360 I touched this game, and so it was it was it was pretty wild 158 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.679 to like play through this game and have a completely different experience with it. 159 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.399 So because a lot of this game has to do with like accepting death and 160 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:31.799 like learning how to move on from loss and how to internalize that, and 161 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:33.159 like making the most of the time that you have left, even though if 162 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.759 you when you know something's about to come to an end, you can at 163 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.919 least, you know, spend that time wisely. And that's a lot a 164 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.000 lot of what the story is about. And so instead of like feeling like 165 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.840 this intense sadness, as I say in my review, it's rather when something 166 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.480 when someone goes through something tragic in this game, it's more like, Oh, 167 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.039 I know what they're going through. I know, I understand how they 168 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:03.200 feel. And for me, looking at these kids, like back then I 169 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.960 would play these play this game and see these characters go through things like, 170 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.200 Oh, I guess that's how someone would handle that sort of situation. Now 171 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.480 when I play it, I'm like, oh, no, that is how 172 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.519 people do handle these situations. So there's there's a bit more of a like 173 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.840 a realistic attachment to what happens in Persona three for me, because I know 174 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.080 what this shit is like now, and I think I made the experience like 175 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.480 so much more powerful And it is just so wild to me that a lot 176 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.919 of this coincided with the launch, with the release of Reload, and it's 177 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.159 like Persona three meant so much to me already, but now it has like 178 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:45.159 become it is now my favorite Persona period like five Royal lad Reload. Yeah. 179 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.320 So yeah, And like in the IGN review, you can slot there's 180 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.879 a thing where it's like, hey, here's other reviewers rankings of all the 181 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.399 personas, and I was like, I'm gonna put Reload as number one and 182 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.559 Royal number two. I still think Royal is the like the better game, 183 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:03.159 but in terms like my favorites, three, Reload is one thousand percent of 184 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.759 my favorite Persona. So and there's a bunch of gameplay stuff we can talk 185 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.720 about, Like all that stuff is very important. It matters, but I 186 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.039 think when at the end of the day, what you come to Persona for, 187 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.159 what you're gonna remember most about it is the story that it tells and 188 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.080 the characters it builds up to tell that story. So and all that stuff 189 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:30.600 is fantastic front to back. That was something about your review that I really 190 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:35.519 really did admire is just how personal you because it was similar to me, 191 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.600 and you know, I played this game and in the last like year, 192 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.720 it was you know, not this past uh October, but the October before, 193 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:48.799 like I lost one of my best friends. And then also you know, 194 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.039 like I recently became a mom, right, and so I feel like 195 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.519 when you have a kid, your sense of mortality just like skyrockets. You 196 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.240 know, it's you really are faced with the fact that, like, you 197 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.120 know, one like this thing that you brought into the world will one day 198 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.039 not be here, and one day you won't be here, and one day 199 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.639 your parents and so like it. It's really strange. And part of that 200 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:15.799 is just all the great female hormones that you know, go crazy whenever you're 201 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.600 pregnant and you know, even for the years following. But like, yeah, 202 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.639 it's something that really hits so hard, and so playing this kind of 203 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.720 with with those two things in mind, I almost kind of avoided going into 204 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:33.559 it too much in my review because I was like, I'm it's a really 205 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:39.720 emotional game, and it's really it's really sad, but it's really empowering also 206 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.840 because it does make you I don't know, you know. The way that 207 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:50.759 they approach it is very much you only have this life, and you know, 208 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.840 you can be sad about the fact that it's going to end, you 209 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.600 can be sad when you lose somebody, or you can do your best to 210 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:02.320 make the most of every day. Or celebrate the people that you you know 211 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.480 that you have lost, or to keep living for them, or to make 212 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.879 the world a better place for the people who come after you. So it's 213 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:15.919 like it's a very empowering story at the same time. Yeah, I mentioned 214 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.480 that I call it timeless, and I think that's like the best way to 215 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.759 sum it up, because again, like this is the same core story from 216 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:29.279 two thousand and six, and boy is it as relevant as ever today. 217 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.360 And it's a testament to how sharply that main story is put together from back 218 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.799 then when like with the things they wanted to say about appreciating life and dealing 219 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:42.080 with tragedy, that they really understood it back then, and like that will 220 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.679 stand the test of time if they got it right the first time, and 221 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:49.519 they really did. And so it's really funny to have played this game. 222 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.200 I can play it into twenty seventeen, so it's not that long ago. 223 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.879 But back then I was like, Wow, this is the story. Hits 224 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.720 really hard, and then like seven was it seven? Yeah, seven years 225 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.840 later, have a completely different perspective on it, and it hits just as 226 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:08.200 hard for completely different reasons. Yeah, And I don't think many stories like 227 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.920 video games are otherwise can I'm sure. I mean there's a lot of stories 228 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.720 out there that do that well, specifically at games, I don't think I 229 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:21.279 don't know of many games that can do that. So yeah, I think 230 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.599 that's what makes it stand out more than four and five. As much as 231 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:30.720 I love those games that I think four's perspective on identity has been outdated very 232 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.359 fast. To me, I still love that game, but going back to 233 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:38.079 that was really tough. I commend them kind of for being that bold back 234 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.960 in two thousand and eight with P. Four, but that stuff has not 235 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.559 aged twelve. Five. I think stands at test of time for sure, 236 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.240 because of what has to say about social justice and like the New Age and 237 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.000 individualism and things like that. But P. Three is more concerned with the 238 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.480 big picture things like philosophical. I messaged Jess and I was like, you 239 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.400 quoted the Iliad in your review, and I was like, that is the 240 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.799 perfect way they did so, Bougie when you say it, no, no, 241 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.359 no, no, that shit was fire. Because I read that, 242 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:08.839 I'm like, hey, I recognized that quote and I was like, oh 243 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:14.240 right. And then all the Greek mythology that is surrounded in Persona three makes 244 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.519 so much more sense when you think of P three story as like a Greek 245 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:22.759 tragedy, and that's kind of what it is. It's Yeah, she's just 246 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.440 beautiful. I think, I think to touch on the story too, one 247 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.920 thing that I really like about it is it just feels more unified than four 248 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:32.079 and five in terms of I mean we talked a little bit about it yesterday 249 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:37.839 teaching Luke, but how it feels less segmented right like with five, It's 250 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:38.880 like, Okay, now you're going to this palace, then this palace. 251 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.119 It's going to focus on this character for this part. But everything kind of 252 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.920 fits together, and part of that is, you know, you're constantly returning 253 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:51.480 to Tartaris. But I think the way the characters also interact, I feel 254 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:56.000 like it kind of it builds off each other throughout the whole story, at 255 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.319 least up until October, which is where I'm at. I think it's kind 256 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.720 of been like one of my larger takeaways from it, or like one thing 257 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.880 I've really enjoyed is like a change of pace from four Golden in five and 258 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.200 five Royal. I think June Pey is like the perfect example of that as 259 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:17.559 a character like June Pay's the the equivalent of June Pey in like four is 260 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.839 Yosk, and five it's Reugi and Yosk. I mean, I fucking hate 261 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:25.880 Yosk, but I think part of the reason why Yosk struggles in that game 262 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.279 is because like his like quote character arc happens so early in that game, 263 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.240 and then he feels like he doesn't really evolve as much throughout the rest of 264 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.799 that game. And I'd say Reugi, who I do like, but I 265 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:38.279 think he kind of has the same problem where it feels like, ah, 266 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:44.640 like Regis story happens, and then after that it's like, well, we 267 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.000 got other people to deal with, where like June pay you see his character 268 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.960 like evolve throughout the entire game and stuff has like constantly happened to him, 269 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.559 and he and you're watching him like struggle and like self evaluate and then like 270 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.279 have these like highs and lows and like because of that, like as a 271 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.519 character, he sticks with you because you're you're kind of seeing him through this 272 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:08.400 whole journey versus Yeah, like you said, Jake kind of more like uh 273 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.880 almost episodic in nature is maybe kind of like the way I feel like almost 274 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:18.440 FOURIGN and five operate where this game doesn't feel that way like at all, 275 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.000 and and and because of that, it still feels very unique in the Persona 276 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.920 series, despite being like the first one in the in the context of a 277 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.640 social calendars. In the context of a social calendar, I know, I 278 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.920 always this is gonna beat your ass in the comments if you say that, 279 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.680 dude, trust me, trust me, like I am that person. Everyone's 280 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.880 always like Persona three. You know, it's like, oh, it's like 281 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.519 a dude this first, or it's like it's the it's you know, like 282 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:49.480 it's it's so uh intense and greedy and I'm just like an edgy or and 283 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:55.039 I'm just like you motherfuckers haven't played Persona two? Tell you like, yeah, 284 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:59.759 Persona two is wild. But I think the reason why I think a 285 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.319 lot of us say that about three is because three feels so real. It 286 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.680 feels a little bit more. It's so relatable that I feel like I internalize 287 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.680 the dark ship that happens in three a lot more closer than I do with 288 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.960 the things that happen in Eternal Punishment. And sure, yeah, Hitler doesn't 289 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.039 show up in this one, for example, like he doesn't always forget about 290 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:30.799 that, But no, I yeah, because because I think like two necessarily 291 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:37.279 two two definitely has some like real powerful things, but it's much more it's 292 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.480 more Shouldntgammi tense I would say, in the sense that it gets real into 293 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.680 like you know, supernatural elements in a way that where three obviously is supernatural, 294 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:49.160 but I think like it's, yeah, like the dark things happen three 295 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.960 are are much more like they're much more, much more grounded. Yes, 296 00:21:53.160 --> 00:22:00.880 reality, it feels exactly, Yeah, so was well, Yeah, one 297 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.200 of the things you mentioned, like the like the the unification of the party 298 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:08.319 members and how they're constantly evolving throughout the thing. The other thing too, 299 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.480 in revisiting this game was that because they're always involved at every point and have 300 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.400 something, they have a reason to be there. One thing that stood out 301 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.640 to me also and remembering, is that there's a lot of tension in the 302 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:27.000 party, like these aren't like these aren't friends from the start and they're like, 303 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.440 yo, with the power of friendship, we're going to overcome Tartars in 304 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:36.480 the dark Hour and shit, like they're constantly having drama in that party throughout 305 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.599 the whole story, and that feels very real and like the reasons why Jess 306 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:45.200 mentions this so perfectly in her review about like specifically the tension between Yukari and 307 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.720 Mitsuru is that that drama between them feels very real, Like it's it feels 308 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:53.880 like something that would play out within a group of people who aren't necessarily friends, 309 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:57.119 but they have to work together, and then what comes out of at 310 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:02.279 the other end is so much more powerful then friends. From the start, 311 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:07.839 it's like they actually had something to work out with each other, and so 312 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.880 all the reasons, the reasons why those characters are in that group are is 313 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:18.200 so much more, so much stronger than I think other persona games, not 314 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.160 to say like those games didn't Like I love Phantom Thieves, the Investigation Team. 315 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.920 They're they're cool, especially the Phanto theiees, but like the reason why 316 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.079 they're all brought together, I think it's like the strongest P three has, 317 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.480 like the strongest backing of its lore to give you reasons to buy into the 318 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.279 story and the character group as a whole. I agree, because it's like 319 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.400 everyone has their own individual reason to join at the beginning, and like you 320 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:47.039 said, they're not necessarily connected by friendship, but then like by the end 321 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:52.119 they are, so it almost feels it feels more natural that all these people 322 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.240 like have like the hardship they have faced and they've come together versus like, 323 00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:57.960 ah, we saved you from the dungeon. You wanna you wanna you want 324 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:00.000 to just like join up on our part, which, like again, like 325 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.240 I do think the friendship in those other games is real, but yeah, 326 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.400 I agree with that. I even think, like the I was thinking about 327 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:12.079 this, like I think there's just like certain thematic elements to the game and 328 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.799 the gameplay that like this game did first that makes so much sense, Like 329 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:23.960 the the school in this game is so much more of the focus than it 330 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:26.880 is in four and five. Just by being in four and five, especially 331 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.279 five, I remember like the you kind of I feel like you barely go 332 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.559 to the school after like the first arc or like it's like there, but 333 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.680 it like it doesn't have the presence it does where like three, like the 334 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.440 school is kind of the anchor to the whole game because it's like you're doing 335 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.680 the school during the day, but also Tartaris is the school in it, 336 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.759 like so you're there at night. So I feel like the school is like 337 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:52.200 this like unifying location that like binds the whole game and the way with the 338 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.240 calendar, Like there's it everything about this game and the way it uses the 339 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:03.680 calendar system despite being I guess like simpler and that there's not as much to 340 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.599 do in five like to me, like thematically, I think it fits a 341 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.559 lot better, especially when you start to get into like kind of the themes 342 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.359 of like running out of time and what are you going to do with that 343 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:19.279 time? Like at the end of the game, when when when the kind 344 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.480 of you hit that end game and you see the countdown like on like how 345 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.440 much days you have left on the calendar, Like it kind of hits where 346 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:32.039 you're just like, oh no, getting too deep into well one thing that 347 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.200 I really love too kind of going off that and like the tie to the 348 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:40.480 school and even to the community I think is really really important in this game 349 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:45.759 because you know, without going into like deep spoilered territory, right like towards 350 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.319 the end of the game, like the relationships that you form with you know, 351 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.400 your friends and with the people around you. You know, the close 352 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:57.160 relationships that you form kind of come back to like you're reminded of them, 353 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.880 right, You're reminded of like your reason for or everything that you've done and 354 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.000 the reason for this fight. And so I think that that really drives home 355 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.039 this point of you know, life is about the relationships that you have. 356 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:18.039 It's about the kindness that you extend to other people. It's about who you're 357 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.599 there for, and it's and who's there for you. And the fact that 358 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.160 you know school is a big part of that. The fact that you know 359 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.480 the people at the book shop that you can go see are are a part 360 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:32.079 of that. Or you know, I don't know I or Hayasa right, 361 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:34.039 who's not even at your school, but he's a rival teammate and I love 362 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:41.759 that guy. But it really feels, more so than the other persona games, 363 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:47.359 that you are a part of this community and that you I don't know 364 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:52.160 there there is some semblance of you're not just like this chosen one, right, 365 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.880 You're also someone who's trying to live a life and be a person. 366 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.039 And that's another thing that I really love about this game too, is I 367 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.880 feel like so and and of course like you are still like a chosen one 368 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:07.759 right in this game, but it feels like the protagonist is always at the 369 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.759 center of everything, right, Like if there's an argument, there's somehow the 370 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.000 protagonist is involved in that or or whatever. And in this game, it 371 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.240 feels like so much is happening outside of you that is also important, you 372 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.799 know, like the upper classmen like Shinji, Mitsuu and Aki Oh my god, 373 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.680 what is his name? I was gonna say, but that is a 374 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:37.000 different character. Yeah, So the uh, their their relationship and and kind 375 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.279 of their history is really important, and it's something that you're not really a 376 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.319 part of, and I guess you get looped into it somewhat, but that 377 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.000 is their dynamic and that is their friendship, and you get the feeling that 378 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.559 they really are your upper classmen peers who you know, have like this whole 379 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.799 other thing going on and who are really planning for their future. And it's 380 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.200 even kind of like that with Yukari and Mitsuu, right like they go through 381 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.400 they have their whole like own thing going on and these like really powerful moments 382 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:10.880 where you especially don't get that with female characters a lot, especially in a 383 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.079 game that came out in the early two thousands, where you know the reason 384 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.480 why these you know, women are arguing or who or they go through hard 385 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.839 times or they they kind of butt heads, has nothing to do with them 386 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.960 liking the same guy or being jealous of one another's It's just there's a lot 387 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.519 more depth to it, and that's something that is not usually explored, and 388 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.359 it's definitely not resolved in a way where each one of them is telling the 389 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.000 other that they want to help make them better or they want to help be 390 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.720 there for them and they or they know they're capable of great things and they're 391 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.839 you know, It's like that's not a dynamic that you usually see. This 392 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.880 world feels so much more real because of the relationships in the game. That 393 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.599 was definitely something I noticed replaying this game that I never really think about about, 394 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.799 how, like you said, you're because the main character isn't the central 395 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.880 focal point the way maybe they are, like Joker definitely is. In like 396 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.519 five, for example, you have scenes where other characters are talking that you're 397 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.839 not involved in it all, And I was thinking about it, and I 398 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.279 was like, I don't know if that really happens in four and five where 399 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.440 you have scenes where like your other characters are like interacting with each other where 400 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.279 you're not there, like you know, and because of that, it makes 401 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:26.720 these characters, yeah, like it feels like they have like relationships and personalities 402 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.599 outside of like revolving around you in a weird way good you know where it's 403 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.799 like like I'm just like I did like on and how do you ever talk 404 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.359 to each other and five at all? Like you know, like maybe, 405 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.000 but like you never saw that and like this this feels more like like you 406 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.640 said, yeah, it's like ever everyone's kind of got their own thing going 407 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.839 on and you're just you're just like a You're also there, like you know, 408 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:56.279 you're not quite You're important, but you're not the central focus. Damn 409 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.359 uh change the subject a little, but I would say three all so has 410 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.759 my favorite party member of all time. Uh oh law the best boy. 411 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:11.839 Oh. I had no idea that a dog joins your party in this game, 412 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.160 and when it happened, I lost my mind. I was so excited. 413 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.240 It was it was the top ten moments of all time in these games. 414 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.160 I was so stoked. And he's in my party every single time. 415 00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:27.440 Don't do anything without Corn tomorrow. Always take him for walks. I love 416 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.799 it, like watching TV shows with him. How he like barks at the 417 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.839 TV and jumps around. I'm like, man, this is this is so 418 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.480 good. Georgia had had a similar reaction because she knew about Cornmru, but 419 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.799 she thought he was just gonna be like, oh, like you summon him 420 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.079 or he'll be like a support character. And she's like, wait, he's 421 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.039 like a full party memer. I was like, yeah, she's like, 422 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.480 all right, who the fuck about dropping because I gotta I gotta get this 423 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:55.640 boy in there. Oh and he's like legitimately one of the most like useful 424 00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.920 party members too, because he does dark damage and he does fire damage, 425 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.960 and he's pretty strong like on the attack too, and he's fast. Yeah 426 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.079 he's yeah, that's the fastest. That's a very positive change they made off 427 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.279 the original because he was kind of not like awful, but but I do 428 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.359 think like not as impactful in the original game because they the dark and light 429 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.319 spells were only instant kills, and because they have now carried over the damage 430 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:25.279 stuff from five like him and like, uh like can like both feel like 431 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.559 way more way more effective and useful. And and then also they added the 432 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.359 whole system where you can actually now like boost older characters, uh up level, 433 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.079 which is really good because like dude, like Base Base three, Uh, 434 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.839 there would be characters that like, I think like June pay as much 435 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.880 as off Jumpey is a character I think like in my squad, Dude, 436 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.960 I drop that little so quick and like never he never never went back to 437 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.319 him, which is a shame because he's actually like one of the strongest characters 438 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.440 in the end game, well, especially like in this version too, with 439 00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.920 like the theragy system and stuff too, like you can get the the bonus 440 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.920 that further increases his KRIT rate and stuff. And I would cycle. I 441 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.839 usually always had Yukari and my party I and obviously you have to have yourself, 442 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.720 but yeah, I mean I, and I guess I generally had to 443 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.720 just because her buffs are so good. But I would cycle between korramru, 444 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:22.799 Akihito and uh gin Pay a lot, because all of them are like really 445 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.119 can really pack a punch. All of them can, especially gin Pe when 446 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.359 he gets like all of his KRIT stuff up, and if you give him 447 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.119 an accessory with like the KRIT boost on there too, he'll do a krit 448 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.759 like every few hits and it's wild. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's 449 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.319 the thing too, is like not only do I like love every character equally, 450 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.880 but they are also all very useful in battle in some way, even 451 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.920 Ken Like yeah, like yeah, it's it's really wild, how like I 452 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:52.279 should Yeah, yeah, I mean, well that was his choice. That's 453 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:58.480 on him, it is, but yeah, it makes it really hard to 454 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.440 choose who my party members are, Like, dude, I want everybody to 455 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.920 be involved at some point. It doesn't help too that whenever you tell them 456 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.920 to like sit out, they're always so dejected, and I'm like, I'm 457 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.640 sorry, I would take all of you if I could change the rules. 458 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.599 I don't know. Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's I always I always 459 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.519 say, is too, like anyone who can like who does like a tier 460 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.279 list or ranking of the best characters in Persona three, Like, there's no 461 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:28.000 list that would be wrong, like everybody, like any order would work for 462 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.200 me because everyone's like equally as dope as as each other. And I can't 463 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.799 say the same about pretty much any other RPG. Maybe I don't know this. 464 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.880 Maybe yaks are like a dragon. I love everyone in that party equally. 465 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.559 That's pretty that's a pretty close one there. But otherwise, like especially 466 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.480 for Persona, like, there are some people I do not like and P 467 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:57.920 four yea, y'all motherfucker's stink. I know y'all smell bad. But also 468 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.640 and in five there's like there's characters who I like, but I don't necessarily 469 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.239 want to spend that much time with. I don't know, it's a but 470 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:21.719 yeah, it's A three is just all around best And like the I think 471 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.280 a lot of the combat changes feed into that too, with like the ergy 472 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:30.480 attacks were like really fucking cool man, a stroke of brilliance, like it's 473 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.760 real good. Yeah, there's yeah, there's some real cool ship like Matterus 474 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:40.360 is so badass, Yukari's is great. Just like how everyone is able to 475 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.440 a little bit of a little bit more of their personality show in combat, 476 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.920 and it's not just like having the cut in like breakthrough when when you hit 477 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.119 a weakness like that shit looks cool as fun, but on top of really 478 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.440 good in this game, I like, I do think that literally all it's 479 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.320 so hard becau because there's so many visual changes that it's easy to just be 480 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.800 like visually upgraded and it looks phenomenal, but like there are just so many 481 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.840 little things where it's like like they change a little, uh, you know, 482 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.559 sprites on the side where when you get you know, paralyzed or whatever, 483 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.960 they and those have a little bit of personality and the theogy moves have 484 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.760 so much personality, and you know, the breakouts whenever you do get the 485 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.880 weaknesses have so much personality, and I don't know, it's it it really 486 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:32.719 it does feel very I don't know, they're they're definitely progressing right like Alice's 487 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.639 as a as a as a developer, especially with this game, it feels 488 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.239 like they really hit something true. I mean, they're all special, but 489 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.800 like hit something with Persona five and they were like, oh, like we 490 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.519 can really make this stylish, Like we can really hone into this, and 491 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.679 they're just going all out. And even with Persona three, you see that 492 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.199 they're keeping that identity but really just amping it up and it looks so cool. 493 00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.199 Everything they're doing looks great. I think one of the things as well 494 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.000 Jess was how like it doesn't feel like it's necessarily aping five though. It 495 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:09.800 feels like they have found their own specific style for this that kind of leans 496 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.000 on like the overt stylistic ideas of five, but it feels very much its 497 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.960 own, which I appreciate because I mean, obviously, you know, the 498 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.239 color change helps a lot, like the fact that it's primarily blue, but 499 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:31.280 I think it's all just so slick and amazing looking. Yeah. I think 500 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.079 one small thing that I was halfway through the game. I'm like, back 501 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.320 in the older games, when they summon their persona, they would you would 502 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.599 see the full animation of them pulling out the gun and shooting themselves, And 503 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:46.719 I was like, oh, when I do cast a spell, they're already 504 00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.360 like, they already have their gun pointed to the head. Then I noticed, 505 00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.519 like in the side menu, inside of the menu of spells, that's 506 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.960 where they do the animation, so you still see them flipping the gun around 507 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.199 and pointing it to their head in that silhouett of your menu of spells, 508 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.800 And I was like, oh, that's such a nice touch. So good. 509 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.400 Ah yeah, the menu still, like Persona always has like the coolest 510 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.519 fucking menus ever since five came out, And like the touches that they did 511 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.079 for this was also like feed into that, Hey, we're using a lot 512 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.440 of the same style principles as five, but this still is very distinctly from 513 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.599 three. So yeah, it just fronts of back. I feel like they 514 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:28.239 really nailed it. I completely agree. Yeah, And I think that something 515 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.400 that I really wanted to bring up to. And this is another one of 516 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.519 those things where you know, kind of like my own emotional response to it. 517 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:36.519 This is something that I could have like dug into, but I feel 518 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:37.679 like it would have taken up so much of the review because I have so 519 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.000 much to say. Is I feel like Atlas is not only just evolving stylistically, 520 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:50.480 but just in the way that certain topics are discussed and relationships and kind 521 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:57.119 of being more mindful of certain things. And you know, one of them 522 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.840 being getting rid of the very transphobic scene at the beach, which was such 523 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.320 a relief when that happened. You know, they find out that like one 524 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:14.400 of the beach goers there that they're trying to flirt with is presumably a man 525 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:19.119 or you know, at least has you know what I mean. But and 526 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.960 they react disgusted and they run away, and it's it's treated as like this 527 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:31.639 joke, and obviously like that's something that is was more like likely to happen 528 00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.559 in video games from the early two thousands that we definitely know better and we 529 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.960 know that's shitty now. And also, I mean the relationship with the women 530 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.599 like that sucked in the original persona three. The fact that you could not 531 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:52.159 yeah, you can't max out a relationship with a girl unless you essentially like 532 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.840 sleep with it. It's eluded that something happens. It's like the room goes 533 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.960 dark type thing, and like that's the only way that you could max out 534 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.440 these relationships. You had to be in a romantic, you know, committed 535 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:07.400 relationship to them. So unless you just wanted to not get like the final 536 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.000 link of of all of these social links and be able to you know, 537 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.159 fuse the ultimate persona and stuff like that, you had to just be you 538 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.840 know, a scumbag dude who's just with you know, six different women at 539 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:22.519 the same time. And I don't know, I've always like I've definitely had 540 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.440 my fair share of talking I don't know, I don't want to say I'm 541 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.960 talking down, but like just speaking my mind about certain things that Atlas does 542 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.960 in their games and in certain like commentary, whether it's in Catherine or I've 543 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.280 talked about Persona five and stuff too, certain things that I agree with or 544 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:45.559 disagree with. But I do respect immensely their studio just because I think that 545 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.360 they're one of the one of the studios that actually tries like they try to 546 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:53.639 say something. They try to always have like this this ultimately I think good 547 00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:59.960 hearted and positive message and they're trying to I don't know, further converse, 548 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:01.440 even if they don't always go about it the right way, or even if 549 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:07.400 they make these stupid, you know, little comments that they think are maybe 550 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.880 you can laugh off or whatever that are really not so funny once you look 551 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.639 at them further. But I don't know, I think that those little changes 552 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.400 are not so little. They end up being pretty pretty substantial and pretty meaningful 553 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.039 to a lot of people, and it feels, I don't know, I 554 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:27.159 guess, very affirming as someone who does care about that stuff and who writes 555 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.079 about that stuff and who you know, people can can get pretty pissy about 556 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.239 it on the internet and be like, oh, like I can't believe they 557 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:38.079 took away the vagina bones if you know, you know, yeah, but 558 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.159 I don't know. Yeah, it was. It was just great to see 559 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.519 that. It's just it feels very especially as a woman, right like the 560 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:51.360 social link getting to ten thing without having to be with six different women feels 561 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.599 very humanizing as a woman. So yeah, yeah, it's another thing too. 562 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.360 It's I mean, thinking about the series as a whole, it's like, 563 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.159 past five it's been kind of this passing of a torch where like new 564 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.920 people are in charge of of Persona of the series, and so I think 565 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.119 you see that a lot in Tactica, you see a little bit of in 566 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.760 Royal, and then you see some of that in three reload as well. 567 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:20.880 It's where you know hash, you know, and like the old guard have 568 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.239 moved on to something else and now. And I've said this a lot, 569 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.880 is that for Persona to stay relevant, they need newer, fresh, fresh 570 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.719 people, younger people telling these kinds of stories. If Persona's always going to 571 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.679 be about coming of age tales or what it's like to be a young adult 572 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:42.320 in the world and navigating injustices and things like that, I don't need old 573 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:47.159 men to keep telling that story from their perspective, Yeah, and so tell 574 00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:52.400 it like they've they've done. Yeah, they've done. They've done great work 575 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:53.800 with three, four and five in the past, but it's time to move 576 00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.760 on. And I think we're seeing a lot of that in these remakes and 577 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:01.280 these spinoffs. So it gives me hope that Persona six would take a lot 578 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:07.480 of that core ethos and say something or be something that can that is an 579 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.360 evolution of what we've seen in this past. In the same little bit o 580 00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.679 G three at the time felt like it was something fresh and new compared to 581 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.039 like, what have you been doing? Right, It's like it is like 582 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.920 a weird like we'd full circle now where it's like, yeah, we're now, 583 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.000 We're now with the new team, and it makes me very excited to 584 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.199 see like what an eventually person of six could could be. Yeah, and 585 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.519 so even with like Shoji megro like retiring from at lists, I'm like, 586 00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.360 oh, what about the soundtrack and like the new Composersashi Kitajo, who's done 587 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.239 a lot of the spin amazing phenomenal job, Like that fore gets it. 588 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.719 M yeah you said at the top of Michael. But like the new tracks 589 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.320 all bangers in my opinion, like real good ship, oh boy, like 590 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.039 I color your night that the night time. It's so good. It's it's 591 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:58.800 like and I think that this is my It's so funny because when I was 592 00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:00.519 doing my review, I almost I gave it a nine out of ten. 593 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.719 One of the things that I, like, I guess docked it for you 594 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.840 could say, is like not having some newness. But I went back and 595 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.119 forth on that a lot because I was like, well, there's no new 596 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.400 like social link, it doesn't have the full like Persona Golden or you know, 597 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.599 Royal Treatment or whatever, to where it's like you're getting like this all 598 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:21.239 this new content, right, But I went back and forth so much because 599 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.679 I'm like, well, but if I think about it, that wasn't there, 600 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.119 and that wasn't there, and like those those hangouts weren't there, and 601 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.760 but it's so hard to tell sometimes because it all feels so natural. It 602 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.880 feels like it was always there and like that's the way it was intended to 603 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.280 be. Even the music has like has that quality too. It's so surreal 604 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:44.559 to I remember when Final Fantasy seven remake came out, right, like everybody 605 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:45.920 was talking about, oh my god, this is so cool because this is 606 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.760 how I imagine the characters, Like when I played that like Pixely, you 607 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.079 know, game from from ninety seven, like I always imagined in my head 608 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.599 though, like this is what Cloud looked like, and this is what Tifa 609 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.800 looked like. And I played Persona three and it was very much that feeling 610 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:06.480 of like it's hard to tell what music wasn't there and what like social interactions 611 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.199 weren't there originally because everything felt so right and how you envision it to be 612 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.840 that I really went back and forth on that one because I'm like, man, 613 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:16.679 but there were so many things. Yeah, and so you say the 614 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.480 color, you know, color your night and stuff, and it's like it 615 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.320 just feels like it always belonged. They did such a seamless job, even 616 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.039 with this like new guard of people working on this game. It's so seamless. 617 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:32.320 It's incredibly impressive to be able to do that. Yeah. Yeah, 618 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.639 a little touches like that. And I say in my review that it's a 619 00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.000 bunch of small additions and changes that add up to a lot, because, 620 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.159 like I said, it is hard to tell. I went back and watched 621 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.280 like a playthrough a fes just to see like, oh, did was I 622 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.679 able to do that with Coramorrow back then? It's like okay, yes, 623 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.719 so that was there. But this hangout out on the steps that's new. 624 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.719 And then like when they changed the song to changing Seasons when you're at school, 625 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.639 I remember this song, How did it sound like back then? I'm 626 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.519 like, oh, it's the same, but so much different. Yeah, 627 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.199 something different about it, like even with the new singer I was, I 628 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.400 was. I feel like everyone is kind of hesitant to because you Mi Kawer 629 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.119 Moro was such an iconic voice, Like her voice is so distinct that when 630 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.960 I hear her voice, she is the voice of Persona three as much as 631 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:29.280 Lotus Juice is. So with Azumi Takahashi us the new singer, you know, 632 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:30.679 you're kind of like, oh, but can you can you like capture 633 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.199 the same spirit? Like how are you gonna fit in? You know, 634 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.639 after you know you spend seventy hours, eighty hours with this game, You're 635 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.119 like, she's part of the Persona family now. It's it's really wild like 636 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:45.679 how each singer is as much it feels like the singer of a Persona soundtrack 637 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.719 is like the narrator of that story because those songs are so are so impactful 638 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.199 and exist alongside what's happening in that story that it feels like they are telling 639 00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.280 part of that storytelling. And I think especially with like Color Your Night, 640 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.719 if you when you listen to what that song is about, it's like, 641 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.800 dog, I was just like, I gotta like get to the activity before 642 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.519 I start tearing up when it gets to like the second verse. Whatever. 643 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.599 That shit is crazy man. And so like they lend their voice to the 644 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.599 soundtrack that you're just constantly listening to and you just associate with them with that, 645 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.039 and like, there's there's no way you think of Persona five without Lynn 646 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.000 Zanami. It was like the singer for that, and like the voice of 647 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.880 Chioko Hirata, who's the voice for Persona four. It's like, as soon 648 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.800 as I hear your voice, I'm like, no, that's Persona four, 649 00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:36.760 and now it's I feel I feel like the same way with this with this 650 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:43.519 new singer and a. That's just part of how Reload is able to forge 651 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.800 its own identity, even when so much of it is based in the original 652 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:52.440 game. Yeah, I will say personally, I'm not in love with all 653 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.039 of the remixes. I think some of the some of them don't hit the 654 00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.400 same as the original and I don't think that's the fault of like, you 655 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.840 know, like the new singer for example, Like I think it's a case 656 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.559 where it's just like, oh, you know, those original songs are so 657 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.199 ingrained in my brain and sometimes like ah, like you didn't really need to 658 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.280 change it. It could have stayed the same or or or even like you 659 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.599 know, I think they were written for a different singer in some cases. 660 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.679 So it's like, yeah, to be hard to like kind of put yourself 661 00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:27.400 in there versus like we're the new stuff. It all sounds so natural and 662 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.519 flawless, and it's like, like, if anything, I think how much 663 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.639 they nailed the new stuff kind of made me almost want them to go even 664 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.679 harder and like almost completely redo the soundtrack, like I like, it would 665 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.960 be crazy. I think that would have caused a lot of friction because the 666 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.280 original person on three soundtrack is so hard. But I think they nailed it, 667 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.119 and I would have I would have almost preferred that now having heard the 668 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:51.639 new stuff, Yers, yeah, I guess. Yeah. When you put 669 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.000 it like that, I'm like, I would be yeah. Yeah. I 670 00:47:54.079 --> 00:48:00.480 was gonna say some of Lotus Juices bars didn't hit for me a story because 671 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.159 I'm minding my biz, so mind your own biz. I'm like, what 672 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.039 are you saying at this point? Man? But wrap this up, dude, 673 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.280 dude, let me tell you tell you about high school. Me was 674 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.280 like, Yo, this is so fucking deep, man, Like, holy 675 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:21.719 shit, Like, let me tell you about Lotus Juice. Sometimes he is 676 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.639 not cooking, No, no, he is absolutely not. But other times 677 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.480 I'm like, holy shit, all right, this is great. It's pretty 678 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.639 good. It's really funny. I think that's one thing. I actually, 679 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.960 here's the y one beef with the soundtrack is the dorm bets. Yeah, 680 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.719 that's like the do the Man. Yeah, I don't like the dorm theme. 681 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.800 That's fair. That's fair. That is probably the weakest link. Actually, 682 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.920 I like it like it's the muffled voice, the missing the muffled voice 683 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.320 from the original. Yeah, completely agreed, Jake. I wanted to feel 684 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:53.480 like we've been talking the whole time. But I did say at the top 685 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.280 that you're kind of like the one person who never did play Persona three, 686 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.760 So I kind of wanted to get a little more of your perspective as someone 687 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.719 who's played like four and five and are now coming back to three with reload 688 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.840 here, Like, how do you feel? How are you feeling about it? 689 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.039 Yeah? I mean, like I said, I'm in October. I 690 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.679 won't go into the details what's happening, but I am really enjoying it. 691 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.880 That's all I want to do after work. I just want to sit down 692 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.760 play more Persona, keep playing it. Like I think that format in itself 693 00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:28.360 is so good, that that structure of just playing day by day, there 694 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.840 are like, as much as I do love it, I think there are 695 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.719 like little things with how with how your schedule works that kind of irk me, 696 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.480 And I think it mostly just comes down to the fact that, like 697 00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.480 there's things I want to do that I just don't have time to do, 698 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.159 or things that I didn't realize I should do until it was too late, 699 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.559 and I wish there's more emphasis on some of that stuff. For example, 700 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.440 a lot of like the c's hangout stuff, like I understand the importance of 701 00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.480 them and I want to do them. However, it it is like hard 702 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.119 coded in my brain that I need to go for social links whenever I can 703 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.320 because I'm not gonna have time to do it, and because those a lot 704 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:12.000 of times every time the hangouts aren't social links, I definitely find myself deprioritizing 705 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.719 those, which I think is might be good to some extent, But then 706 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.119 some things happen and I'm like, man, I wish I had done more 707 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.480 of the hangouts because I think that could have answered some of these questions here. 708 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.360 And I think it just comes down to, like I wish some of 709 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.599 that stuff was just either it didn't waste time or just you had to see. 710 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.159 Like I said, I don't I get details be cause I don' want 711 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:37.480 to spoil things, but like there's one particular thing that I'm just like, 712 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.840 like I other people have been playing it, so I know what happens, 713 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.119 but I really wish I would have seen that, but I didn't because I 714 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.159 was like, oh, but that's not a social link. So I got 715 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.639 to do something that's a social link. Yeah, and I think the game 716 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.840 in a sense kind of does a good job of like most the hangouts are 717 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.559 in the evening and you don't have a lot of social links at night. 718 00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.480 But even then, like I find myself at night just in lining like social 719 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.880 stats because I really want to talk to uh or I really want to like 720 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.159 start the social link with Mitsuru or Fuka or something like that. So there's 721 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.000 kind of like an imbalance there. I feel like that they really figured out 722 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.760 with five. Like with five, I wasn't able to do everything, especially 723 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.039 Royal, but I felt like I didn't feel like I was my time was 724 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:28.440 being cheated, if that makes sense. Yeah, I completely agree with you. 725 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.880 I'm so glad you brought that up because that was one of the things 726 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.360 like I addressed, you know, like quality of life changes that in some 727 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.920 some some were there and then some just war and you really felt it. 728 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.039 And that was one I was like, man, I by the time that 729 00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.719 I get to, I don't know, December or something, so you still 730 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.679 have a few months left. It's like my stats are all max art or 731 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.679 maybe even November, it's like stats are all maxed out. And then in 732 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.679 the evening it's like or not evening, but I guess nighttime or no, 733 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:59.639 it is evening because it's after school and evening, so by evening I'm I'm 734 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.840 like, I don't really know what to do. And like sometimes it'll be 735 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.239 like I could go make coffee with you know, Ken or whatever and like 736 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.280 get the item that you get for that after you do the three to get 737 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.119 the ability or whatever. But yeah, there were a lot of times when 738 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.400 I was like, it would be so nice if other than you know, 739 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:23.039 the devil social link and uh, like the one with yeah Tanaka and uh 740 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.400 and then the one with the monk. Yeah, It's like, it'd be 741 00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.360 so nice if some of these were moved to hear or if like on weekends 742 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.880 after you know, there's a couple that are specific to Sundays, but even 743 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:40.199 after doing those, like if you could move certain relationships on a weekend because 744 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.119 yeah, you just I'm not expecting to be able to do everything, but 745 00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.440 I feel like you really are strapped in some regards. And I also feel 746 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:52.079 that, like by making the events with the male characters like June Pei and 747 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:59.320 Akihito and stuff like that, or even Cora Maru events. Sorry I don't 748 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.280 start barking. I don't know if you could hear it, but making them 749 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.639 events rather than making them social links just kind of inherently deprioritizes them, you 750 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.079 know. And it's like I knew to hang out with a certain character who 751 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.760 you can't hang out with later in the game because I was like, because 752 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.199 I've played the game before, I know. But if you're but if you're 753 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:21.280 going into the game and you don't know what's going to happen, like you're 754 00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.639 maybe not going to hang out with that person, and then you're missing a 755 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.440 bunch of stuff because it does it doesn't seem like it's as important until it's 756 00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.199 too late. And I don't know, maybe there's something thematic there about not 757 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.360 realizing what's important till it's late, so you could argue that, but at 758 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.239 the same time, God, it's like, yeah, I wish that someone 759 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:44.760 like June Pey had his own social link and he was the magician because his 760 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.239 stuff. I don't think you should miss it. I think it's fantastic. 761 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.679 Same thing with Akihito. I think that, like I said, it makes 762 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:59.239 certain things seem less important when they're not. So yeah, yeah, I 763 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.280 completely agree. Yeah, I think it is one of the weaker elements because 764 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:07.079 I remember that even the original three, that was kind of a weird issue 765 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.400 and imbalance, Like I remember, I think it was like the first time 766 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:14.079 I played it, I got to like December, and I like literally couldn't 767 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.079 do anything. I was just like sitting there, just like passing time. 768 00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.079 Yeah, And I was like hoping they kind of would have addressed it more, 769 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.599 and I feel like they slightly did, but yeah, like I don't 770 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:27.480 know, maybe maybe like because I remember like four Golden added a thing where 771 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.559 like at night time you could like hang out with certain characters and like kind 772 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.119 of get their stats up a little bit, Like maybe they could have added 773 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.920 that. I don't know. I'm not a game designer, but I agree, 774 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.000 it's one of the few things. I'm just like, ah, I 775 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.880 kind of wish they improve that like a little bit. Yeah, it is 776 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.519 weird too, because like during the day I have after school, there's like 777 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.559 twelve people I can hang out with, and I've got all these options, 778 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.119 and I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to finish that. And 779 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.119 then at night it's like all right, no, no, what do I 780 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.719 do? Yeah? I well, and it doesn't help. Go ahead, 781 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.480 oh say it doesn't help too. That like I feel like, Okay, 782 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.239 correct me if I'm wrong, because maybe I'm just like I haven't played in 783 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:07.960 a long time, and I forget. But so in three, the social 784 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.800 links deteriorate a little bit. So if you blow people off, it's like 785 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.880 it'll be because it'll say something along the lines of like oh like I sense 786 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.119 that this bond could improve or whatever. But if you blow someone off like 787 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.079 three times in a row, that message goes away. So I think it 788 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.519 deteriorates a little bit, whereas I think in four and five doesn't really do 789 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.320 that. But yeah, I don't know. So that that was something that 790 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.679 was kind of frustrating too, is you know, like I would have six 791 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:37.039 different people who you know, oh, like they could all improve, and 792 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:38.599 then I would do a couple and I get around to other ones and then 793 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.920 it's like, oh, now, I just have to like hang out with 794 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.280 them because it's not ready to improve, or I have to go do like 795 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:49.320 one of the secondary things like the dating note thing that you can get from 796 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.239 the guy, where you think of a person and it makes the relationship improve 797 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:53.480 in the evening, which I ended up doing a lot because I didn't have 798 00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:58.800 anything else to do in the evening. But yeah, so, I mean 799 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.400 that was kind of frustrating to you. I feel like there's just some tweaks 800 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.960 that could have been made to make it better. I wouldn't even mind it 801 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.880 if they would have gotten rid of some of the social links or changed things 802 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:14.519 around in order to put like the more important ones. And I don't know, 803 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:21.039 Yeah, there's there's some real there's some real stinkers there. I was 804 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.039 like, damn, I was saying that, like, I don't think like 805 00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.440 the Gourmet King. I was like, I hate hanging out with this fucker, 806 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.199 but I hate that guy so much. And I was like, Okay, 807 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:35.119 I'm happy I did, because I don't think I would have ever expected 808 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.880 where this could have gone. Yeah, so one on Twitter said this. 809 00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.119 I was saying to Jake the other day, I kind of agree with it. 810 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.519 Where they're like I don'h man, that's life. Sometimes you hang out 811 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.000 with someone and then it turns out like the fucking suck, and hey, 812 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:50.719 it's up to you to be like, I'm not gonna hang out with you 813 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:52.800 anymore, like you know, so it's like, hey, this is life. 814 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:58.880 Uh yeah. One of the things like I also talk a lot about 815 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.599 when talking to other people about as game is that P three is unintentionally really 816 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:07.639 funny, like you could say some funny ship. Oh yeah, there's some 817 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:14.159 situations that are like hilarious that here's here's this guy. You're playing this guy 818 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.480 who's just like basically through most of the social links are like, yo, 819 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:21.239 that's crazy. That's crazy. Bro. It's like, yo, I want 820 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.440 to I want to date my teacher and ship. What should I do? 821 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.719 It's like, I don't know. I don't think it's a good idea. 822 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.199 Or it could be like yeah, man, you're gonna crash and burn, 823 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.079 You're not gonna lie, and it's like and he'd be like, man, 824 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.519 fuck you, and that he does it anyway, comes back he's like, 825 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.239 man, thank you so much for being in my corner. And I was 826 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:40.679 like, I do shit, I didn't do ship. That is silver aligning 827 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:45.639 to that relationship though, is because I feel like you. It really does 828 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.559 feel like when you're watching one of your friends just do something so stupid and 829 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.320 you're like why, but it's like what are you gonna do? You're like, 830 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.719 I got I gotta little figure it out. I got them, you 831 00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:59.119 know. Yeah. There's a scene that that character Kenji, which it isn't 832 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:00.519 part of the socials at all, that I thought was so much better than 833 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.679 all of his social links because he's just causing ship. He's just stirring things. 834 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:06.920 He's just stirring the pot. And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, 835 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.119 like all you've been talking about is teacher this entire time, and you're 836 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.360 actually like funny here, and I was like, come on, that's what 837 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.000 I wanted to see. I will say to that point. Like some of 838 00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.679 the voice acting makes it even funnier too, like, uh, you go, 839 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.719 I think the team manager. I thought her voice acting was her. 840 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:29.679 Her acting was so good. Some of the deliveries were just so funny and 841 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:32.079 like and otherwise, like I liked her social link, but I felt like 842 00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:36.079 it was just kind of random where it was like I'm getting bullied, but 843 00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:37.920 now I'm a this and now I need to study for school and now I'm 844 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:43.239 a coach and all this kind of stuff. But like I thought character and 845 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.239 her delivery on so many lines where it was like made it worth it. 846 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:51.599 Like I was excited for her as story even though I was kind of confused 847 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:55.760 as to where it was going. Yeah, oh man, yeah, there's 848 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.400 even even some ship like that. June Page is said as I think the 849 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:06.840 scary story thing that he does believe it or don't. Yeah, you know 850 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.440 what the flashlight like that scene was in the original something yeah about the delivery 851 00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.000 this time. And some of the stuff that he says during study sessions. 852 00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.039 Oh, study sessions are so fucking cool. I think some of the stuff 853 00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:21.159 that he says is like really fucking hilarious. And the way they they clown 854 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:22.880 on him in a way that doesn't feel mean spirited, Like in the same 855 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.480 way that I think Reugi gets a lot of shit from the party members because 856 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.000 oh it's funny to pick on he's like the dumb ass of the crew, 857 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:31.679 right, June Pay is definitely the dumb ass of the crew. But the 858 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:37.079 way they clown on him is like it feels sincere in a way that like, 859 00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:38.880 yeah, that's how I would clown on a friend that I actually like, 860 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.280 I don't I'm not, I don't hate them, but I'm just like, 861 00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.400 yeah, messing around with It's like June Pey as like part of his 862 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:47.920 character is that he's just like so good at bouncing back that Like it's kind 863 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.719 of like, you know, like, ah, that's the guy you can 864 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.360 clown with because he's just gonna like be like, hey, fuck you and 865 00:59:53.400 --> 01:00:01.320 then be like totally fine. Although that scene has been ruined by my internet 866 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:07.719 brain, if you know, you know, uh yeah, I was gonna 867 01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.119 say the all the social links being fully voiced in this one, which I 868 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.480 think it's the first time a persona game has done that period, Like, 869 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.760 oh, I think that adds so much and like they definitely can't go back 870 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:22.840 on that. It was really cool getting to hear certain characters like how fully 871 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.079 voice lines were. Like I think in the original they'll just like talk in 872 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.639 their intro maybe or something, and that's kind of it. So like, 873 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.880 yeah, I thought that was cool. And guy, I know, Michael, 874 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:32.760 at the beginning, you were just talking about how like the boys cast 875 01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:37.960 kills it and I just want to like completely agree with that, like you 876 01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.639 said at the beginning, Like that's such a hard thing to nail, right, 877 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.000 Like, like when you have such an attachment, emotional attachment, like 878 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:51.079 characters, like you know, having having a new crew come back in, 879 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:52.679 like, it's really easy for that to go wrong. And I and I 880 01:00:52.760 --> 01:01:00.360 think it's like such an immense achievement that like not only like like they nailed 881 01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:05.880 it, they nailed it so hard. Yeah. Man. Uh. One 882 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:10.760 thing I'm like fifty to fifty on is so in the original, at least 883 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:17.159 in the original and Infests, there are anime cut scenes at at critical points 884 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:22.000 in the story. That and there are still some anime cut scenes in Reload, 885 01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:28.320 but half of them are now rendered in engine, and I think they're 886 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:34.599 good. But when you look back and watch the anime cut scenes from the 887 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:38.840 original game, there is a certain there is a certain vibe that they capture 888 01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:45.719 so fucking well. Yes, in those old anime cut Yeah, it's not 889 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:51.280 like the new scenes are like well done, like they're like, oh wow, 890 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.719 that that's that's a great version of that scene. But you can go 891 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:59.079 back and watch those anime cut scenes, that shit is crazy. Specifically, 892 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.360 the the uh when you get your persona the anime cut scene when you get 893 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:08.320 your persona in in Base three versus Reload, I was like, ah, 894 01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:13.400 the Base one's so much cooler, and just like it it hits like something 895 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:17.400 about like the like when you like, uh bus bus orpheus apart and like 896 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:24.440 shows up like yeah, bus some wide open in that original game like that 897 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.159 was like I remember just being like whoa, what the fuck? And like 898 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.800 I watched it in this one and I was like, Eh, it was 899 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.639 okay, looks cool, looks all right, but like it didn't. Yeah, 900 01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:37.719 it doesn't. It doesn't quite hit the same because like there's no yeah, 901 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:43.280 there's like a there's a there's like a nineties early two thousands anime vibe 902 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.599 to those scenes and in a way so ill when I talked about Serial Experiments 903 01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.880 Lane like a couple of months, Yeah, it's it has that the anime 904 01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:59.480 cutscenes have that dark, unsettling like experimental God, you're so right, Yeah, 905 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.800 dude, it's it's it's there. There are multiple anime cut scenes in 906 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:08.480 the original that are that are so deranged and so like out there that they 907 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.679 were fucking cooking back then. I'm sure there's like it, let's do something 908 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.599 crazy. Hell yeah, let's put that in the game, but when you 909 01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:20.119 look back on it, like yo, Like, I love Fuka's persona awakening 910 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.559 in reloading. I think it's such a beautiful, beautiful scene, and I 911 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:29.159 actually do like it better in reload because I think it says more about her 912 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:34.639 character, but that the anime version of that can sick. Yeah, I 913 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.239 agree, Yeah, And I guess the last thing I want to say is, 914 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:43.559 like, of all the characters in P three, I think Fuka is 915 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.719 the one who's like, it's like most improved, proved. Yeah, I 916 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:54.320 mean, I think her voice actor in the original is like her and Ken 917 01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.559 with the voice acting specifically, I think her like I guess too, I 918 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.960 felt like I was a little rougher in the first one. Well, it's 919 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.119 interesting because in the they like they played it very differently in the original, 920 01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:12.519 where like the so in the Japanese, I guess just talks like fairly normally, 921 01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.599 like her cadence isn't very weird. But and then in the original English 922 01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:23.519 they decided to give her like a very like emotionless robotic voice. Yeah, 923 01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:26.159 and then this one, I feel like they kind of went for a little 924 01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:28.519 bit more of in between, where she still sounds like a little off, 925 01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.679 but she sounds not quite as stilted as the original English, and I agree, 926 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.039 I think it's much better. It doesn't feel as awkward or weird. 927 01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:41.079 It's a lot more balanced than this one. Because that is I was so 928 01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.519 funny as I would frequently like watch YouTube, right, I would just like 929 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.400 google like walkthroughs or like full play throughs or whatever of the game when I 930 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:48.960 was playing, because I was like, oh, is that new? I 931 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.760 think it's new, and I would look and I would compare like certain things 932 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.719 that happen or even the voice acting, and and yeah, hers was one 933 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.719 that I was I was listening to him, like they definitely changed up how 934 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.639 it's delivered, and it sound better because it still gets across that like she 935 01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:08.920 is not human, but it sounds more natural. Speaking of being I guess 936 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:14.920 and being unintentionally funny, having this robot girl go to school is still some 937 01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:17.440 of the funniest fucking ship because there there are ways and like, hey, 938 01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:21.920 we're gonna dress her up with like the uniform and like give her like stockings 939 01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.639 so they don't see her robotic legs or whatever. We'll give her shoes. 940 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.639 Yeah, she doesn't have she doesn't have feet, so sometimes they give her 941 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.880 shoes. Sometimes they don't. But also sometimes people see her out and about 942 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:39.880 without like a uniform or human clothes, and no one really says anything. 943 01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:45.039 It's really fucking funny. First introduced to the class teachers like a weapon of 944 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:54.760 mass destruction. It must be a mistake. And like your car is the 945 01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.199 only one who's like yo yo yo yo yo, And I was like, 946 01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:01.199 oh, why are you tripping god that everybody else is like she's hot. 947 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.599 I will say I always had a soft spot for I guess, but I 948 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:13.360 guess this time around, I love her so much amazing and like with Fuka, 949 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.239 like especially with her new voice actor, and so a lot of her 950 01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:21.159 expressions, like Fuka occupies like the same brain space as like kirbyan rallet for 951 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:30.840 me soft on baby boy, Yeah, and it just makes me all around. 952 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.039 I just I just love these characters so much more now and I want 953 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:38.599 to give we'd all kneel before Mitsu, right, yeah, well, I 954 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:45.159 mean that's that's what they say. Literally, my hair was like a bit 955 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.000 more orange, it's faded. But but then I was playing and I was 956 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:53.440 like, oh, I need to go broke. So I was like, 957 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:57.760 oh, she i, I gotta yeah. Yeah, she she's definitely like 958 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.719 a girl that you see and you're like, I gotta to base my whole 959 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.119 personality around you to impress you. Like there's literally that girl in the school 960 01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:11.400 who's like constantly like yo yo is like like she's so horny. It's hilarious. 961 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:14.800 I love that too, Like, oh my god, yeah, I 962 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:20.559 love that. It's a girl just out there just yearning fans and he's like 963 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:28.440 just doesn't understand it and everyone's so jealous. Dude, that guy is like 964 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:32.599 has no riz, but he's also like the coolest motherfucker exactly, and he 965 01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:38.519 doesn't even know it. It's such a good cast. It's such a good 966 01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.079 cast, like it really and like we already touched on like June Pay being 967 01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.079 the best, but June Pay is the best. His character development is some 968 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.360 of the best in a side character in any persona game in my opinion. 969 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.119 And Yukari I actually I romanced her for the first time this time because I 970 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:59.360 usually do Matsuu, but and that was really cute. Yeah. Sweet, 971 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.960 Yeah, I think Yukari was always like canonically to me, like that's who 972 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:08.639 the main character is like closest with yeah, just because like she's your first 973 01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:12.639 friend. But also I actually think her so I Like, I think, 974 01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.079 out of all the female party members, like her social link is probably the 975 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:19.840 most, the most interesting. I like where it goes, Yeah, and 976 01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:24.199 I think it says a lot more about her character where I think like Fuka 977 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:29.279 has this development but it doesn't feel as impactful, and like Pittsru goes through 978 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:32.279 this whole thing as well, but Yukari's feels like I have a deeper understanding 979 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:38.279 of where she's coming from because like she's she's like cheery and stuff, but 980 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:41.359 also she has like a dark side that doesn't really get explored until you're deeper 981 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:43.680 in the game, and then it gets explored in the social ink, like 982 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.800 oh shit, this is like pretty wild. But also like, yeah, 983 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:50.800 Yukari's like she's always been my favorite in the crew, like my personal favorite 984 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:56.520 because I connect with her the probably the most. But yeah, I think 985 01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.640 in addition to her new voice acting, it's like, yeah, she's still 986 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.880 definitely my favorite of the bunch. I agree. Yeah, well damn I 987 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.920 could keep going forever. I mean I didn't even get to talk about Elizabeth 988 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:11.920 and how oh god, yeah, the only voice they kept from the OG 989 01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:16.560 because you can't fucking do it better. Yeah, Elizabeth is we're talking about 990 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:21.479 funny. Elizabeth is like the funniest. She's funny. She's so funny and 991 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:28.800 like just her whole like just like the idea of her like wandering around trying 992 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.319 all this stuff, like ah my god, just I like the fighting or 993 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:38.800 whatever. And then the shrine she's just dumping money into. And oh that's 994 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.880 one thing they didn't do as well though, is in the original, if 995 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.359 you didn't click forward, she would just be dumping money into the fountain forever, 996 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:46.760 like she had like an infinite purse, and it would just you could 997 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.880 watch the money poor forever. They didn't do that in this one, and 998 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.520 I was like, oh, they fucked it up. Uh No, I 999 01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:57.399 Elizabeth. I absolutly love she's She's one of my favorite Velvet Room characters. 1000 01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:01.119 And yeah, her voice is so funn need to me like every time, 1001 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.119 like she calls you up to like say like a new Tartar's block is open 1002 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:06.800 or there's people missing. Now I just let it play out. I like, 1003 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.840 I want to hear the whole thing. It's the same lines every time. 1004 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:12.880 But I'm just like her delivery is just so goofy to me. She's 1005 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.479 like, good boy, like this people, you better go get them. 1006 01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:21.039 Yeah. Me and Georgia have this like joke where like every character has like 1007 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.640 their deep personal thing that they're trying to do. We're like, oh, 1008 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:28.279 what's the main protagonist like deep personal thing? And it's like, I'm just 1009 01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:31.720 trying to do all these requests for my my alien girlfriend. You know. 1010 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:36.239 I like, hey, y'all got some like pine resident or you're like, 1011 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:40.720 I don't know, like a oil and they're a charge lendonade like whatever she's 1012 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:45.439 asking for. Like, actually, one thing I wanted to ask about, 1013 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.319 uh, did you guys max out Kenji's social link or did you just drop 1014 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:53.800 it? I haven't axed it out in this one. And that's I'm actually 1015 01:10:55.640 --> 01:11:00.079 clearly was a bug that was very strange before his tenth one. No, 1016 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.239 I don't think so. What it was like, Hey babe, can't wait 1017 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:09.039 to see you. There's like hearts in it. It's very strong. Yes, 1018 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.159 I saw that. I did triple take. I was like, wait 1019 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:17.039 a second, what damn you think he like mention to someone else? So 1020 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.199 I the way that I took it is I was like, oh, like 1021 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:26.840 maybe he's just being funny to his guy friends, like like, I don't 1022 01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.760 know, like that was the way that I took it. I feel like 1023 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:32.920 I'm gonna like throw my husband under a bus. But it's just like whatever, 1024 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.600 Like he has his one friend right who he jokes around and will be 1025 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.039 like, hey, babe, what he answers? And so I thought maybe 1026 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.439 like that was the joke, but it was so weird because I was like, 1027 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:49.920 am I is this? Are they letting us be persona but the worst 1028 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:56.760 one? Yes? I guess that's a real monkeys pap. She can be 1029 01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.159 gay now, but it's gonna be the worst character in the game. You 1030 01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:05.760 thought you'd get Akihito? No, absolutely not Kenji. All right, Well, 1031 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:10.760 we've been going for a while. I think we're gonna have to call 1032 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.600 this a podcast right here. To be fair, I don't really think we've 1033 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:15.439 been playing much else. I don't know about y'all, but I know Suicide 1034 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.960 Squad is the other hot game of this week. I have not touched that. 1035 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:23.600 I don't know if I will touch it, to be honest, no 1036 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:27.520 plans to. So sorry. If you're looking for hot Suicide Squad opinions, 1037 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.119 you might have to go somewhere else for that, but that's okay because we're 1038 01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:36.039 here playing what I think will be I think we we'll probably stand the test 1039 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:41.199 of time more than a suicide squad, just from what I've seen it. 1040 01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:45.760 There's always next week, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, nothing else 1041 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:50.680 to play, hmm, nothing else, nothing else going on at all, 1042 01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:55.399 nothing else, nothing else at all anyway. So that has been it for 1043 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.279 this week on Games After Dark. Michael, thank you so much for coming 1044 01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.359 by. I can always always love having you. Jess, thank you for 1045 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:08.680 calling in as well. It's always lovely to have you on literally anytime. 1046 01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.159 Jake, I love this show. I sit next to you at work. 1047 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:15.840 I don't know whatever, see you tomorrow, but I'll get text him right 1048 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:23.319 after be like, hey, love your babe, like hardheart heart or experience 1049 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.880 we can that is true. Actually, I'm so glad that you did bring 1050 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.159 that up because, oh my god, Yeah that was wild. That was 1051 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:34.960 a fever dream. I'm glad it was real. All right, everyone, 1052 01:13:35.119 --> 01:14:05.359 We'll catch y'all next week. Thanks for listening. Peace bye, Peace at Day