1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,480 It's just like the old radio show with the addibility to swear a lot from 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,880 a mac of All trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dodge J 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:29,199 Bram. It's bilified the Bill Moran podcast. Well, hello and welcome. 4 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,439 Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend, Thanks for 5 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:37,560 spreading the word. Danny was twenty nine years ago today. Twenty nine years 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,119 ago, OJ decided to flip his life upside down. It's the craziest thing 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,159 and it all. Yeah, and it changed. I think it changed some 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,280 things in culture. It made people famous who nobody knew it. I mean 9 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:54,439 kat O Kalin got radio shows out of it. Yeah, he was living 10 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:59,280 in the guesthouse at OJ's on OJ's property and he got a midday talk show 11 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:03,359 in La. People work their whole lives trying to get to him, right, 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,439 like like you and me and all said, yeah, no, here's 13 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:07,840 the show. The funniest thing is, like I always look back and wondered 14 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,359 if they're if OJ had just had the sense to just breathe and not do 15 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,680 this, Yeah, what would we have talked about? What would have filled 16 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:18,599 that gap? Something would have filled that gap, yes, but not to 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,599 that extent that, you know. I mean that was a huge part when 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,920 you go back in the nineties, Like if Billy Joel were to rewrite we 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,400 didn't start the fire, OJ would have to be just one verse. Yeah, 20 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,159 you know, yeah, probably probably very true. You know, you 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,680 think about OJ Simpson, h one of the most prolific running backs in NFL 22 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:38,400 history. Spent a lot of time with the Bills. They weren't a very 23 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,120 good team, but he was a very good running back. Then goes to 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,319 San Francisco, but during that time becomes the face of many products and kind 25 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:51,439 of you know, seems to transcend football. And you see him running through 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,000 airports, and then he's in movies and he's on NBC Sports and he's just 27 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:00,760 this likable guy. He was just yeah, handsome, right, just the 28 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:06,879 guy everybody loved. And then this it's like man doctor jack Old, mister 29 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:09,719 Hyde and h Leo Roth. At the time, you work for the Democrat 30 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:15,879 and Chronicle, I know, not while OJ was playing correct. Yeah, 31 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,639 hi guys, thanks for having me. Um. Yeah, like OJ would 32 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,360 have been uh he was all through my high school okay, ye, yeah, 33 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:29,840 and then through college and then so he he would have been retired by 34 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,199 the time I was. He retired just at the time I was getting out 35 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:36,960 of school and starting in the newspaper business. But he would come back to 36 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,919 Buffalo from time to time. Prior to all this, you know, awfulness 37 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,439 that happened, and I'm sure you probably interacted in some way. Is it 38 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,759 true? Danny told me off air that you might have played basketball against oj. 39 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:53,199 Yeah. Well, I certainly got against him. But when I was 40 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:00,280 in nineteen seventy five at my high school in Buffalo, Bishop Newman High he 41 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,400 he he came there that day to give a talk and uh, you know, 42 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,520 popularity, and he was. Yeah, he happened to be in the 43 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,319 gym early, and I happened to be in the gym, and I knew, 44 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,199 of course who he was, and uh, I introduced myself. We 45 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:16,719 shot hoops a little bit before he gave his talk to the students. So 46 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,719 that was that's you know that was Looking back at that, I said, 47 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,240 that was really cool. That was a great thrill. And then uh, 48 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,120 and then later on, as when I when I was professionally, Yeah, 49 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,599 we interviewed. I was able to jam anytimes. The last time I think 50 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,400 would have been uh in the early nineties when he was with NBC and he 51 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:42,199 was out. It was at the Bills, um the super Bowl they played 52 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:46,360 in LA, and uh he was. They always had some media day with 53 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:51,560 the brokers and all that and he and let you guys mentioned just uh, 54 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,960 just a peach of a guy, just a great I mean, he was 55 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,879 enjoyable. He was a He couldn't have been fatball than O J. Simpson, 56 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 right, Leo. I think it's so cool that you had the wherewithal. 57 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,520 You know, a lot of kids in high school. You maybe you're 58 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,919 awkward, or you're a little shy, you don't, I mean to have 59 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,159 the forgive me the balls to walk up to OJ Simpson and introduce yourself. 60 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,120 I think that's pretty awesome. Dude, as a high school kid, bro 61 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 well, yeah, hey, I was a senior. I was shy. 62 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:24,160 Yeah, no, right, but then to be able to shooting. I 63 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:27,240 mean, think about like telling all your buddies. You know what I'm saying, 64 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:31,839 you did something that like everybody in that probably everybody in your class and 65 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,639 beyond in that high school would have given their left toe to do, you 66 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,439 know what I mean. That's that. But you know what it speaks through 67 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,519 too, is how old? How old was he was that kind of approachable 68 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:46,759 yeah person, right, he never really you know, he wasn't that big 69 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:54,120 time guy. I'm sure many many people in Buffalo have have great recollections of 70 00:04:54,199 --> 00:05:00,279 experience or those j which made which makes the whole uh downfall of his life 71 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:02,839 and his career all the more sad to people that did know him. Um, 72 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:09,319 it's really uh yeah, it's it's it's I always think of the correct 73 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,040 words and the only one that comes to mind is sad and tragic and such 74 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:18,600 a such a focus on all the human frailties that we all have. How 75 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:21,920 did how did this all happen? You know, it's just I mean, 76 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,759 and it's been the subject of many books and many documentaries, and and it'll 77 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,160 be I think it'll be like you guys are exploring today that you know, 78 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,759 what is it the twenty ninth anniversary, twenty ninth anniversary, you know for 79 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,759 the thirtieth Leo, there's gonna be a lot of stuff. But I'm just 80 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,399 curious as to you know, you meet him as a as a high school 81 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,160 or you see him again when you're working in media. Uh, did you 82 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,480 ever remind him of that time that you spend the gym do you ever go 83 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,879 hey, man, I once, because I probably I probably will if I 84 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,480 don't know if I reminder of that or not. You know what I did 85 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,720 speak to him, it was probably part of That's why I did have him 86 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:01,959 kind of a one on one little bit, but mostly it was part of 87 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:05,959 those as you guys know how those go, those pack pack events, So 88 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,000 there wasn't a lot of elbow running. I can't say I was friends with 89 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,800 OJ, that's for sure. The guy that I do feel badly the great 90 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,399 Larry Felzer, who's no longer with us the Buffalo News columnists. Of course, 91 00:06:17,439 --> 00:06:23,120 he was the Bill's uh beat writer and columnists through OJ's career, and 92 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:26,759 he was the authority on OJ. And I know, I know the I 93 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,079 know the murder and the trials and all that. Really it left it left 94 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,079 Larry heartbroken because he did know him very well. And uh so that's one 95 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:39,240 of those things and and many and I mean there's so many people that must 96 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:45,199 have just because OJ was that popular. Probably it's real. It's really unfathomable 97 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,800 to everyone to try to put this all together, what an American story, 98 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:54,600 and it just uh, you know, you, I still can't believe because 99 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,399 I when I do think about his career, I mean, if you just 100 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,959 look up his stuff, it's just amazing what he accomplished as as a football 101 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:06,720 player. But then to also morph in culturally and to say all the careers 102 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,639 of movies as an actor, and then also has a number one pitch man 103 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,079 and crossing that divide the color line with him and just being yea, so 104 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,040 much what he was he was really he could have been, so he could 105 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:27,319 have been just remembered so well well, so well, it's amazing. Yeah, 106 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,959 you you bring up a very good point. Now, I would almost 107 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,040 say one that people kind of dance around a lot. But O. J. 108 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:36,600 Simpson did cross the color barrier. You're right, because even you know, 109 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:41,600 when he was playing ball, it wasn't a kind world to there's two 110 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,240 people who were any other shade other than white. It really wasn't. And 111 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,120 I think that even up into his trial, you know, you kind of 112 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,639 saw a racial divide in that along the way. I mean you really did. 113 00:07:55,879 --> 00:08:00,639 But OJ never seemed to identify as anything. He was kind of everybody's 114 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,759 guy, you know what I mean. That's where I say he transcended sport. 115 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:07,439 He seemed to transcend color. Uh, if that's if that's possible, 116 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:13,240 but take me to them when this happened and you're working, like you had 117 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:18,720 these moments with OJ, right from from being very young to working as a 118 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,480 journalist and then having this unfold. What what does that do like in your 119 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:28,680 head? And what happens to the coverage because now it's probably there's sports it's 120 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,919 on the sports page as well as the front page or maybe a side column 121 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:39,039 about OJ when he played in Buffalo only because it's front page news for the 122 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,120 tragedy that unfolded. Yeah, well, I think it just rocked. I 123 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,559 know it rocked me just to the core because you're, you know, way 124 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,000 before I became a sportswriter. He yeah, he was the you know, 125 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,240 I was a Buffalo Bills fan. So he was the And it was during 126 00:08:54,759 --> 00:09:00,919 that formative high school stage, you know, right fifteen sixth thing where you're 127 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:05,639 really getting into sports and you know, identifying with these guys, these players, 128 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,919 and and so he was that hero player. Then of course you know 129 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,000 then professionally to see how good of you know, he is broadcaster, then 130 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,480 to see how approachable and personable he was and success he had and he always 131 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:20,759 had a great he always had a great affection for Buffalo. He really did. 132 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,639 He u he you know, we often talked very highly all his time 133 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,440 in Western New York and that was a great connection. And then he and 134 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,919 then because he was a Hollywood I think all of us were, that was 135 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:33,320 our connection, right he was, oh Jay and he's he's a Buffalo Bill 136 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,559 and um and even now I think when people go out to the stadium and 137 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:41,960 they still see his his name on the Wall of Fame and they had this, 138 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,480 I think it's a it's a it's a connection and an overwhelming sense of 139 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:52,600 sadness and and he's hard to put it into into a correct, you know, 140 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,000 contextual feeling of what this was. And o jum but he but yeah, 141 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,799 he was I guess just rocked us to the core. I do remember 142 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:07,840 the trial and uh um of course you know this this this was after the 143 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,799 White Bronco Chase and all that. I remember watching all that and this, 144 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,480 you know, all all America. How this whole uh story was unfolding before 145 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:20,360 all of us younger people couldn't imagine today how we were glued to the TV. 146 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:22,279 I'm just wondering, how, boy, if we had social media back 147 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,799 then, how how this story would have been covered. Oh my gun. 148 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,799 But I remember the driving home that when the verdict was being in Red and 149 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,879 Sell my Irana and I were down in uh Cleveland, Bills had a game 150 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,000 there the day before. I think the verdict was read on a Monday. 151 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,879 Maybe it's as I can't write recall it. We drove home from Cleveland, 152 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,600 I mean we we we raced home to get back to the stadium in time 153 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:50,200 to hear the verdict read on television. And uh, I'll never forget that 154 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:54,080 day. And then of course it was like wow, wow he got off 155 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,159 and that We're like, yeah, so that was I do remember that very 156 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,960 vividly. Yeah, I remember, I remember we Uh. Jeffrey Tubin, 157 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,679 who wrote the book that the FX series was based on, OJ what was 158 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,759 the people versus? And I think he said, you know, you sat 159 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:16,159 through all this stuff and you couldn't believe what unfolded in that courtroom. Like 160 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,919 I, he said, I didn't expect and I didn't think nobody expected that 161 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,759 this was going to happen, he said, But looking back, when you 162 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,120 saw the jury, he said, I had been in the courtroom so many 163 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:31,879 times that when the jury was going to convict someone, they wouldn't look at 164 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,399 them. And you can almost understand that, right, It's almost like I 165 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,440 can't I can't even look at you when I tell you this, because I'm 166 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,960 going to change your life forever. Right. But they but there they were. 167 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,879 The jury was right, Yeah they were. You know we talked earlier 168 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:52,000 just about you know, the racial undertones of that trial. Yeah, where 169 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,639 and it was. I do recall that. And and and like I said, 170 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,679 OJ was was. OJ was everybody's like you said, he he was 171 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,279 every buddies person, white, uh, African American, you were, you 172 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,080 loved OJ. OJ was your guy. But during the and but many in 173 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,879 his in that black community did did were critical of OJ. How you know, 174 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,480 you know, for whatever reasons maybe you know how he never maybe you 175 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,720 know, I don't know what the proper terms would be, but they you 176 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:28,200 know, how it became a racial how that trial was made into a racial 177 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:33,039 uh subject was which was very big for his defense. Um, and that 178 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,039 that caused a lot, you know, that was the start of you know, 179 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,080 we think about things that happened, uh, and then the world will 180 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,440 we live in today? I'm just wondering how we could train you know, 181 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,279 the OJ the OLJ trial OJ. They have been the start of a lot 182 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,679 of these things that we deal with today. Um yeah, well all JA 183 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:56,559 was I mean, I think it was the birth of reality television. I 184 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,600 think that well, to see things unfold and time. Yeah, that that 185 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,960 was something else. And you guys have to yeah, you guys recalled the 186 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:13,080 Yeah, the trial was court TV wide coverage of the Bronco chase still, 187 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,240 oh yeah, still was captivating television. It is amazing. Yeah, because 188 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,320 even when you saw it and then it was people lining up along the freeway 189 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Leo that mean and and they're going, hey man, the juice just went 190 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:28,559 by, Like drummer was one of them. My bad He goes, Yeah, 191 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 I was going to my way to a King's X concert. Traffic stopped. 192 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,759 I'm like, what happened? Oh it's OJ. Oh I'm gonna sit 193 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:37,679 back and watch. Yeah, it was people were cheering them on. Yeah. 194 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:39,960 Yeah, they were cheering for him to get away and and and everything 195 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,720 else. And the one document that one documentary that I thought was just outstanding, 196 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:50,039 the OJ made in America that it was an amazing uh piece. And 197 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,519 they really they touched on all the topics all areas well. They did because 198 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,440 they in that one, they go back and talk to one of the women 199 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,440 who was a juror and she said, she basically said, yeah, I 200 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:07,120 think he did it, but we were so mistreated in this country for so 201 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,360 long, and it wasn't all that long ago when he had, you know, 202 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,799 the whole racial riots that were going on in LA and all this sort 203 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,080 of stuff, that this was for her. This was sort of payback. 204 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,559 And it's unfortunate because you know, two people aren't on the planet. And 205 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,600 certainly I always think this LEO, and I don't know. I look for 206 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,000 patterns with people, right, If I hear something heinous about somebody, go 207 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,399 well, is there are other times they did something similar. Well, all 208 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,360 of a sudden, we were hearing more and more nine one one calls from 209 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Nicole Brown Simpson saying that he's gonna kill me or he's beat me up again. 210 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,679 And because he was O J, I think that that comes with a 211 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:52,600 little bit of hey, we'll sweep this under the rug. Yeah, those 212 00:14:54,759 --> 00:15:01,039 the nine eleven calls were absolutely chilling when you're still hear those today, And 213 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,039 that did show a sign of OJ that nobody knew right. Nobody knew right 214 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:09,559 because we all knew this nice, this nice happy fella that you know fell 215 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:15,519 down the stairs in a wheelchair in the naked gun. I got checked the 216 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:22,320 lottery numbers. Yeah, you know, you know, and I writing at 217 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,240 the time, I think, after the d that's an OJ's fall. I 218 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,519 do. While I was in there, right, everybody everybody was commenting and 219 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,799 writing things at the time, and I I he we call a column, 220 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:35,240 I run it. It kind of formulated my opinion on my advice to a 221 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,879 lot of bottoms and dads when it came to worshiping sports. Hirl was my 222 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,240 final message was, you know, you can respect, you know, you 223 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,360 know, sure of the athlete, but beware of the man. You know, 224 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:52,399 you just don't know, right, the art versus the artist. Yeah, 225 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,480 I think that's fair. I mean, I think there's been Uh it's 226 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:58,600 odd. I don't know how you feel about him being in the Ring of 227 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:03,519 Fame. He is up there when when you go in, uh, some 228 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:06,639 people think his names should be taken down. Uh. And then the other 229 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:08,960 is when he shows up to games. He just showed. He showed up 230 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,759 to a game not long enough. And I'm always surprised a little bit because 231 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,679 yeah, if you yeah, if you talk to most people, they would 232 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:22,519 say, I think he did it, and you know, all right, 233 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:25,759 but then I'm amazed at the number of people that get their picture taken with 234 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,919 him, right, hey, the Jews. Uh. But you know, 235 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,879 I don't know if if we're gonna say, hey, the you had a 236 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:38,600 trial by jury of your peers and this is how it turned out, then 237 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:41,120 I guess we have to you know, if you're gonna accept it for one, 238 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,799 he got accepted for all. I don't know. Yeah, that's it's 239 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:52,240 very even yewold point. How we have to we have to say, okay, 240 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,960 our justice system. Of course he was convicted in the civil trial, 241 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,720 and that the family our gold to gold, I said, I didn't nobody 242 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,400 has ever collected I would think much as much as if at all. Yeah. 243 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:07,759 Yeah, and the way and then I'm the ways. Uh, you 244 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:11,000 know. It was just really depicted many times in places how his life just 245 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,799 firled after that. Yeah. Words, um, but the arrest. He 246 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,839 did spend a good amount of years in prison for the you know, the 247 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:25,319 robbery of the number billion and all that. That was absolutely our episode. 248 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,559 And then there was a lot of clips of him just just a just being 249 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,000 worried. You know too. You know, I was life with just a 250 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:36,200 boxery where it's just really really low. I'm not sure what you know, 251 00:17:36,279 --> 00:17:38,759 what you know you guys have thought about Oji. I didn't think, you 252 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:42,880 know, be a subject reminiscing about today, but yeah, he you know, 253 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:45,240 I'm not sure. Maybe you guys know more of where his life is 254 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:48,480 today and what he is doing. He's in the middle. What is the 255 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:55,599 seventies five? I think he's seventy one, and I don't know, actually 256 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:57,559 you could be, but how old he is? But he is on Twitter, 257 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,319 he's about seventy five. He's a little I think he was a year 258 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,640 older than my father. Yeah, and my father would have been seventy five. 259 00:18:04,839 --> 00:18:08,599 Okay, so he's around that. He's he mid seventies and he's living 260 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,279 in Vegas, and he goes on Twitter a lot, and he comments and 261 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:18,200 all kinds of things, including President Trump's indictment, where he's given his extolling 262 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,240 advice, saying I was told never to talk about it enough. That has 263 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:27,279 great lawyers every day, league yea, even Rabbit Shapiro. He says all 264 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:32,720 this on there, and then he goes into who the bills should be looking 265 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:36,359 at a running back I'm not kidding, Leo, this is real. Would 266 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,400 you like, yes, you know what prolled his soul crazy upside down? 267 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,960 And so nothing surprises me about social media, you know, I mean OJ 268 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,359 Will would it shuck? Anybody would have shot you guys if he ended up 269 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,519 with some show somewhere, all is forgiven and he's some kind of celebrity. 270 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,240 Again, Well here's a celebrity, only in a strange way. Yeah. 271 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,440 I mean he's very he's more notorious now than I guess famous. But yeah, 272 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,480 I uh would have surprised me. Yeah, I think in this one 273 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:10,319 it may only because we all lived. I mean the world really stopped. 274 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,200 I mean they interrupted the NBA finals. Yeah, you know, he got 275 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,680 the big screen. They were they were two well Patrick Ewing and a Ki 276 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,000 Malajuana, like little guys in the corner. And I lived to Buffalo and 277 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:26,400 Buffalo w GRZ channel two. They didn't even show the game. They're like, 278 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,680 go to the Erie channel if you want to watch the game. Yeah, 279 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:32,319 we're just showing OJ. Yeah. My father and I were there all 280 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:34,440 night watching that. I was, uh yeah, I was on the radio 281 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:40,799 at CMF and I think it was ninety four. Yeah, because I was 282 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,000 I had just graduated college, was just graduated from Saint John Fisher and I 283 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:51,160 was working and I they wheeled the TV in for the Bronco j I mean 284 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:57,799 we were you know, it just it Prizza's Yeah. With social media today, 285 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:02,160 you know some but he might do. Somebody might have videotaped the murder. 286 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:04,480 I mean the way, the way you could have had a doorbell cam. 287 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,640 You're right, you could have been all kinds of things that that would 288 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,279 have absolutely put them away. Bill Bellamy used to have a joke, why 289 00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:19,799 didn't they ask the dog o Jane? Yeah, and and and sadly, 290 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,640 yeah, the fallout him tray, I mean that's all that. I guess 291 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,039 the best word, and it's been often, it's it's most accurate. It's 292 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:30,960 just a tragedy. It's a tragic and at so many levels. Yeah, 293 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,440 and here we are. I just that next year, the thirtieth anniversary is 294 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,640 going to be I imagine a lot of a lot of retrospective as we're doing 295 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,920 today, ahead of time. But yeah, I um, yeah, it 296 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,640 touches touches everybody in different ways. Um and um. You can't help but 297 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:52,599 feel that overwhelming sense of what could have been, uh, for him and 298 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,160 how how his life has been the last thirty years. Yeah, well, 299 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:03,680 um, it's really really something um kind of think about. He he was 300 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,119 you mentioned the motion he was really he was good. He was talking about 301 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,400 being on top of the world. But the fact that you just never know 302 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,519 anybody, right, You just never know. No, you know, Leo, 303 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:15,640 do you miss deadlines so to speak? I don't mean with oja kind 304 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:22,799 of deadline, but deadlines for writing, I don't. I do miss uh. 305 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,160 I missed the newspapering. I missed Uh, I missed the colleagues and 306 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,279 miss you know everyone right that we used to work with and hang out with. 307 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:36,480 Uh. But I'm so grateful that I had my time and newspapers were 308 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:41,119 really newspapers, and uh, not much is changed in that industry. Sadly. 309 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,519 It's hard. You know, a lot of stuff, a lot of 310 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,279 stuff is happening. So I'm I have peace for that. You know. 311 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:52,359 I was hoping that I probably would probably still do you know. Yeah, 312 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,119 but you know I was left all with us money, medal, medal with 313 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,119 other talented people, and it's uh perfect. It was kind of rock that 314 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,480 way, but it's pretty good. So I'm I'm the kind of person. 315 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:06,160 That's when done, I moved on to other stuff. So and it was 316 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,200 I feel grateful that I had the time I was there. Wow, wow, 317 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,359 boy, that one quick. But do you write anything now? Do 318 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,119 you do any a blog or do you do any writing for yourself at all? 319 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,400 Uh? No, I don't. I do a little work for football 320 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,400 magazine, all on sports. That's about it. Uh And then now and 321 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:32,240 then I'll I'll hop on Twitter. But that's about it. No, you 322 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:34,400 know what, it was just like boom, I'm um, I haven't picked 323 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,880 up, haven't written a thing since I think just been three years. Yeah, 324 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:44,279 yeah, good for you. And uh man, I'll tell you I've 325 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:47,599 been spending your summers down in Watkins Glen when you know, with family and 326 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,119 stuff, is wonderful. The Seneca Lakes beautiful and you get over to the 327 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,440 I like the racetrack, but not necessarily for the NASCAR and ask. I 328 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,200 mean, it's a great event, police, Don't get me wrong. It's 329 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:03,319 a fantastic event. It's just it's so crowded. But I like the Ferrari 330 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Racist when they're there, it's lighter crowds and you can get a little closer 331 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,359 to the action, even as just a fan than he can a NASCAR and 332 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,000 NASCAR has to have the restrictions because it is so popular stuff. Yeah, 333 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,160 every to have some kind of car. They do. It's great. And 334 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,200 then have you ever been able to run to drive the old track, which 335 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:26,359 is yeah, I know, I do. I have driven it, just 336 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,440 can't you know, casually because you could just get the map and drive it 337 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,440 and it's amazing. It's just an amazing experience. And people don't realize you 338 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:36,680 how they run and run through the streets there. It's like how the guys 339 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,039 didn't die. It's car pass. Yeah, those are car pass that's riding 340 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,480 on. They have a big every year. What month is it is? 341 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,480 September? September. They do have a big car celebrations down here and they 342 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:55,240 run through the streets again. Yeah, it's just it's just ceremonial. It's 343 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,960 not a race, but all all different cars come out. It's quite the 344 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,160 event. It's it's really h people should come down for that. It's great. 345 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,759 And um, I do I do. I'll put a little plug and 346 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:11,240 I do. I do run a ponto boat tours on Tenneca Lake. That's 347 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,279 my new uh side gig. Really yeah, I got a boat. I 348 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,319 got a boat and I take people out on the rides two hour trips around 349 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,960 the lake and dropping back off and yeah, I have I really enjoyed that, 350 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,440 meet people from all over and yeah, so yeah is it U? 351 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,279 So if I wanted to go, let's say, LEO, I'm down there 352 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,279 and I want to impress a lady in my life and absolutely can I bring 353 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:37,319 is it byob? Can I bring a bottle of wine on the boat or 354 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,440 is that ring? Yeah? You can bring uh anything you want, uh 355 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,519 food and beverage and uh, I take I do have a sunset cruise where 356 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:51,400 I provide a complimentary bottle of wine. But then wow the other times. 357 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,640 Yeah, so it's uh, it's worked out. I went after a couple 358 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,559 of years of a couple of years ago, I went and got my coast 359 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:03,480 Guard Captain's license. So I'm but you know, I'm a officially which sounds 360 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,039 funny to me to this day, but I'm a and officially a coastguard camp. 361 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,680 You have. It's funny, right, but sportswriter, the sport Coastguard 362 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,440 camp, it's very very odd. Um, so how does someone book that? 363 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,279 You can go on my website, which is very simple. Uh, 364 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,400 Leo's pontoon boat dot com. Oh wow, more simple than that. Right, 365 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,839 I'm pulling it up. I'm pulling it up right now. This is 366 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,559 you got to google it up. Ye call it up. Let dot com 367 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:41,039 all one word boat dot com. Okay, let's see there it is. 368 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:44,480 Yeah, there it is. This is great one. That's a nice looking 369 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,200 pontoon boat. You got the captain chairs in the back, you got the 370 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,920 nice round table. Wow, that's a big pontoon boat. Because I have 371 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,319 friends that have pontoon boats, and I actually have had a race on Quca 372 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,599 in pontoon boats. There may have been alcohol involved. I don't want to. 373 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,000 I like that idea, and I let my final let my then twelve 374 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,920 year old son takeover race the boat. But that Wow, what a nice 375 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,559 boat, what great pictures. This is a nice website. Man, who 376 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:15,960 did this? You didn't do this? I actually did that myself, Leo. 377 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:21,000 I gotta use my I gotta use my my media skills, right, 378 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,799 they come in handy. You know, there is there is life after the 379 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,920 media. Get guys. Can I say something that Leo did on here that 380 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,839 I think is very smart? Leo has there's four ladies and hats I don't 381 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:40,079 know why. There you go. You gotta have a lot of bar party. 382 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,799 They're pretty party popular. Yeah, and then couples and this is great, 383 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,759 Leo. I love this. Yeah, you know what, We'll plug 384 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,440 this a couple of times. Leo's Ponto boat dot Com. You go down 385 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,920 to sen again. Where do you take off from? We leave right from 386 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,119 the village, Marina, right the harbor. Hoot, there's a go on 387 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,799 harbor Harbor. Yeah, the Glenn Harbor Hotel. Yeah. Yeah, we're 388 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,640 right at Marina. Tick people up there and we go out, trick, 389 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,720 there's a brewery next right next door, hor says brewery and will you yeah, 390 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,920 and we go out and we go out from there, and it's did 391 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,240 you take did you take all the pictures? Leo? That those actually those 392 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,279 are on my photos and everything. The sunset one with the glass of wine 393 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:26,000 and the holder is yeah, absolutely perfect, the flags, it's what will 394 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:30,279 right come on that you did a nice job. I'm like really really impressed, 395 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720 which sounds shitty of me to say, like, wow, really, 396 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,960 I don't mean it like that. Hey, yes, oh there's kind of 397 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,839 He's got a picture of Captain Leo. Click on about the boat. This 398 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,240 is great Leo. So it's been kind of yeah, it's been kind of 399 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,240 me trying to you know, I had to become a little bit of a 400 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,079 businessman, a marketing guy. Yeah, all kind of stuff and I and 401 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,440 it is like a a little part time gig. It's not a full time 402 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:57,880 thing, but I have a lot of fun with it. It meet people 403 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,799 from all over. Is this your dog that's in the picture. So I 404 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:07,480 don't think they I welcome Pat, you know, pet, They're welcome your 405 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,880 dog. Yeah, and then your dogs. I think that I think that 406 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240 was some clients dogs. We had four dogs on there at one time. 407 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,519 Wow it Now, did you go out on the fourth of July? I'm 408 00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:22,200 seeing firework pictures? The fourth I take that was actually with my own family. 409 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,720 Okay, well that makes sense, that would do that too. Come 410 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,720 off for the Yeah, but you know people might. Yeah, I usually 411 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,160 I block out days for my own And do you allow do you allow people 412 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,400 to jump off the boat? I'm seeing people in mid air? Yeah you 413 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,880 can go. Yeah, I'll take you. I'll take it to a spot 414 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:45,519 where we can swim. And uh, Seneca is cold coals deep. Yeah, 415 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,079 it's the deepest lake in the Finger Lakes. It's like six it's well 416 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,799 over six hundred feet in some places. Yeah, and yeah, you resually 417 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:57,559 got to wait till July before you can go swimming. So now, yeah, 418 00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:00,839 here's the one thing that I think is kind of the captain. Leo 419 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,079 says, Captain Leo. Right, and there's a picture. Leo's got a 420 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,519 mustache and he looks very nautical. I get a real Jimmy Buffett vibe from 421 00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:11,319 this picture. Oh really, Yeah, Okay, I like that. I'm 422 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,720 I'm a big Jimmy Buffett fan. I really like Jimmy Buffett. I like 423 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,359 that. I tell you what, when you met you, when you get 424 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,480 when you when you get that chance you can capture that key West. Yeah 425 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,400 kind of feel people go nuts for that. Well, you look happy, 426 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,319 You look happy and relaxed, like this is a cool guy. I'd love 427 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,039 to have him charting. Like then I hit the about me and there's Leo. 428 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:36,119 No mustache, right, Leo, no mustache. It's just the Yeah, 429 00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,319 if I'm gonna get a tour with a captain, he's gotta look like 430 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:45,839 stooping. I got Well, thankfully I'm not there yet. That's uh that 431 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,480 very good, Leo. I'm glad you brought this up. This is what 432 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,799 a cool thing, and good luck with all that. I'm sure you probably 433 00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:56,200 are booked h maybe through the summer or most of the summer already. Yeah, 434 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,200 I got I got bookings out through June and July right now. Yeah. 435 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,799 Good and yeah. So it's so like I said, it's not every 436 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,759 day you go. You can go on the booking button and there's a calendar 437 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,799 there, okay, and you can see what days I run. And that's 438 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160 you know a lot of times I'll get a booking and then as I don't 439 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:18,440 feel like doing the other one, I'll block that time slot out and I 440 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,160 try to keep it, you know, to two a day is the most 441 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,839 that will do. Well. It's kind of nice because you get to choose 442 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,599 and it's not you know, and you like doing it, and this is 443 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,279 your boat. You on the boat and all. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 444 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,359 I owned the boat and uh and and all the other. Yeah. 445 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,319 So it's been that's been good. You know, he had. The victim 446 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,200 was getting the captain the captain's license, which was quite that was quite challenging. 447 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,079 It's a it's it's a expensive task. You have to take and study 448 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,359 it all that good stuff and but that was fun almost I got that out 449 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,400 of the way. It was it was, it was good. And then 450 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,480 you start the business, the LLC and all that, and then the and 451 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,720 the marketing and so it's been a real education for me and so it's been 452 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Yeah, it's been enjoy Well, I'm glad to know about this. Leo's 453 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 pontoon boat dot Com. Very good, Leo, real pleasure talking to you, 454 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,160 man. Thank you, Yeah, thank you Leo. Hey yeah, 455 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,359 hey, y b Dan, this was great. Yeah, thanks for thanks 456 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:15,480 for remembering me at the sight out of mind? Nah, nag. Who 457 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,680 can forget Leo? Right? Leo? How about sell me? Ron? 458 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,920 Has he forgotten you yet? Oh? No? I still talk to Sal. 459 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:25,960 Yeah, I know Sal. Sal always spoke very high of you. 460 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,519 We still talk to Sal all the time. Yeah. I feel bad. 461 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,960 He's the only he's like the last man standing, you know. He's he 462 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:38,240 just he just works his call off. He does he really he's really uh 463 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,319 yeah, he's he's he's you know, he miss is every I feel bad 464 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:44,599 too. He's like he's been like guy left, you know, and he 465 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,400 miss is always everybody that used to be there. So but he's he's uh, 466 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,079 he's keeping it going, keeping it going, well, tell him to 467 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,279 come down and do a story about Captain Leo and then yeah, he's been 468 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,000 on there. I'm sure photo the photo, you'll see him and his wife. 469 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,599 Okay, great, I will do that. I will do that. 470 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,440 Thanks Leo. Hey, guys, thanks a lot. It was fun. 471 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,359 Thank you Leo. Good luck with your show. Okay, all right, 472 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,079 but bye, Wow that this is cool. That was like, I mean, 473 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,960 the OJ stuff is interesting in his perspective. How cool is it that 474 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,279 he played basketball or it wasn't one on one? Yeah, I thought it 475 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,880 was like a celebrity game, you know, media versus whatever. I didn't 476 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,440 realize what it was when you were telling me. That's how I pictured in 477 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:34,559 my head. But I really liked knowing about Leo's Pontombo. That's that's hysterical. 478 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,240 I didn't I didn't know you were doing that. I but he's but 479 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,640 here's the thing, like he never said he wasn't gonna say anything about it. 480 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,599 I don't know why, all of a sudden, he's like, can 481 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,559 I give yes, of course, give a break, Yes, Leo's pontobat 482 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,519 dot com. Yeah, that'll be a cool like afternoon going out there in 483 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,400 the summertime. You know what, maybe we do a little bilified out. 484 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,720 Yeah, it was still a podcast from Leo's pop Tubo. Well, we 485 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,000 could do a podcast or we could just go have fun. Yeah we could. 486 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:06,000 We could just go have some fun. H Oh, there there is 487 00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,319 there is sound his wife. I see him complaining about something. Nah, 488 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:14,559 he's always his wife is so lovely. He's a really lovely All right, 489 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,400 we will We'll take a moment when we come back. What is OJ today, 490 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,839 What is he doing? What is he talking about? We will let 491 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,079 you hear him in his own words, and then just some of our perspective 492 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:30,680 as what that time was like and what has chained sort of since there since 493 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,000 then we will get to all that next. But first, cobble Stone on 494 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:39,480 Maine in Webster always ready to welcome you. It's an eighteen hundreds cobblestone church. 495 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:44,960 And it's really cool because if you follow Cobblestone on Maine on Facebook you 496 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,240 can see some pictures of what it was like in the eighteen hundreds. They've 497 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,559 done an amazing job. When you walk in there, it's so well appointed. 498 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,960 And the cool thing is so they'll have live music from time to time 499 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640 and you go in there, you're hanging out with friends, You're letting their 500 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,799 expert bartenders kind of cater to whatever you mood you're in. They'll make craft 501 00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:07,119 cocktails, They've got all kinds of beers and wines and whiskeys, and you 502 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,760 know whatever. It's just fantastic in there. And then if you wanted a 503 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,519 quiet dinner right and you weren't there for the music in the back, you 504 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,679 can't really hear the music because of the cobblestone. It's like two buildings. 505 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,920 It's soundproof. And here's another cool thing that they have. They have a 506 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,400 party room downstairs, fits forty five people and it has its own entrance. 507 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,400 Why is that important, Well, if you're bringing things in for the party, 508 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,440 right, you don't want to be banging through the restaurant. It's right 509 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,599 there. And they even have seating downstairs as well. So I would say 510 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,199 this if you're looking for a great place to hang out maybe after golf league 511 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,719 or softball, Cobblestone on Maine. If you're looking for a quiet dinner, 512 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,679 like a date night, Cobblestone on Maine. If you're looking to go out 513 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,119 with a bunch of couples and hear some live music, and just hang with 514 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:57,480 some friends. Cobblestone on Maine. 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Thanks 557 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,920 and be sure to like and subscribe to Bilified wherever you get your podcast. 558 00:37:52,320 --> 00:38:00,400 I might have a number, but I'm not sharing it. Yeah, I 559 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,760 don't know what he said. You were unbelievable. I think said unbearable. 560 00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:08,320 No, I think he said unbelievable. Okay, yeah, well you know 561 00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:12,760 anythink Yeah, well okay, I mean I've still had visions. I think 562 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,039 I had dreams about that guy, the naked naked oh, the naked yoga 563 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,760 guy. Yeah. He was talking about the UFC UFC guy. Yeah that 564 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,440 punched the old man in the wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, that guy. 565 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,639 If you combine their powers, that would be really bested up. How are 566 00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:29,800 you gonna stop this guy? Hey? Man, the world is your gym? 567 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:35,320 Man about outside? They thought it was a judgment free zone, but 568 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:43,679 apparently one Florida man was put to the test. O J. Simpson yos 569 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,559 truly still out there. Yeah, I've been playing OJ I have been. 570 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,840 I is he still offering a reward to find the real killers I was having 571 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,639 I don't know. I had a conversation. I tried to set an expiration 572 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960 date. I tried to send him a message on Twitter. I think it's 573 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,599 turned off. I don't think you can send oj M would probably not you 574 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:06,679 can comment on the videos, but you can't. And sometimes the comments are 575 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,199 absolutely priceless. Yeah, people, right, they really are. But I 576 00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:20,920 remember being very torn because there is something in for me, for me as 577 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,360 a human on this earth. So comical about the fact that O. J. 578 00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:30,760 Simpson can get on a camera and talk like it's it's it's fucking unbelievable. 579 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:35,280 And yet if we are to say we put our trust in the justice 580 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,679 system, and the justice system work. And OJ was found guilty in the 581 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:43,559 civil trial, but not in a trial that would put him away. And 582 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,400 then he sort of got pod just to the extreme on some kind of Trump 583 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,960 the bullshit stealing his own merchandise back kind of thing. I don't even know, 584 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,519 kidnap. I mean, he went away nine years. That was That's 585 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,920 a long time. It could have been sixteen. I mean it's been a 586 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,360 sixteen well thirty three was the sentence. Yeah, they think that would it 587 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,480 would have lasted sixteen at max. But I think most people were I mean, 588 00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:07,000 if they did something like that, yeah, I think it's like two 589 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,559 years three, So I really do, I think, but I don't know. 590 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:14,760 Uh so, But again, none of that justifies anybody. And I 591 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,199 you know, Nicole Brown Simpson isn't here, and the Goldman family is grieving 592 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,639 somebody and never got to see what would have been a life for their son. 593 00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,719 So you can't. I don't know how you justify any of it, 594 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:31,960 but OJ does, And so my being torn is I don't want to follow 595 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,519 OJ on Twitter. I may have today and then unfollowed them, thinking that 596 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:38,960 I could send him a direct message because I was like, can I get 597 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,119 you on the pod? I get you on the podcast. I even sent 598 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:52,400 Kato Kaylin a message, Hey Kato, Yeah, I heard three loud thumps, 599 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,599 three loud thumps? Yes, would it sound like he's pounding on the 600 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,000 freaking stand? But uh, you know, these guys became the household names. 601 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,119 But so OJ getting on there, and then when you listen to OJ, 602 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,159 he makes sense. Yeah, and he talks football and he knows that 603 00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,639 he's sharp. Dude, Like, yeah, you could be a double murderer 604 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:19,239 allegedly and still be smart. But it's odd. So here's OJ the latest 605 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:27,440 as of the taping of this episode. Hey Twitter World, yours truly here? 606 00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,199 And I was always my favorite when he opened up Ay Twitter World, 607 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,039 it almost sounds like a parody of Oja, and he does that you know 608 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:37,119 what I'm saying. Well, scrolling TV today, some things jump right out. 609 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,400 What boy, no, no, no out? Like in nineteen ninety 610 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:53,639 four, Show up right now when is the Donald waving what is supposedly secret 611 00:41:53,719 --> 00:42:00,519 documents and even admitting that they weren't declassified. I don't know if we're bluster 612 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,320 or not. All I know is that cannot help him. Um, I'm 613 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,840 gonna share some advice. Now. If O. J. Simpson came up 614 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,639 to you and said, I'm gonna share some advice, well, I'd listen. 615 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,559 Oh yeah, yeah, I would take it, but I would listen. 616 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,159 Yes, okay, I'll always listen. I think that's a valid Yeah. 617 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,599 To do it, you have to evaluate. I think, like god, 618 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,239 I would go, oh my god, what is he going to say 619 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,639 back? Yeah, like, what is he going to say that that? 620 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,039 If you were coming to me for you know what I'm saying, I got 621 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,840 advice for you. Take your beer early at the Bills game, don't wait 622 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,480 until the first quarter that I got from some of the greatest legal minds of 623 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:44,159 our generation, of my lifetime, Defite Bailey Alan Dershel with yeh did they 624 00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:50,480 get paid yet? Johnny Cochrane, Mom Sapirou the Great Very Ship and Peter 625 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:55,119 Neufield, Malcolm Laverne here in Vegas. Uh. The one thing they all 626 00:42:55,159 --> 00:43:00,440 told me and stress to me, okay they all told me trust me, 627 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,480 is you didn't do it right. See. Well, what do you think 628 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,519 they told him not to do? Keep your mouth shut? Yeah, do 629 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:14,880 not talk about the case publicly. Do not do interviews about the case. 630 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,440 The Baker's threatened to quit if I did that. My point is, I 631 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,199 don't know if Donald's lawyers are stressing this to him. If they're not, 632 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,119 they should be firing. He should sue them, or he should cut the 633 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:37,159 heads off. I mean, because there's a like heads will roll literally in 634 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:45,320 any of them. Let's get the sports now. He sounds like an opening 635 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,280 segment on Wham in the morning and now the sports because I hear they're looking 636 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,880 for people to do the anchor the show on TV or I just joke radio 637 00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:59,039 radio Yeah, yeah, not a sports Yeah. It was like quick. 638 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:05,639 It was always quick. If you would have told me three years ago that 639 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:14,480 Delvin Cook Ezekiel Elliott, while still in their twenties, would be looking for 640 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,800 a job, I would have said, you're crazy. Now I know that 641 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,119 everybody talk about the devalue the running back position. They have the value the 642 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:28,559 position. They've just devalued having one running back in that position. I still 643 00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:35,960 will argue that King Henry Say, Quon Barkley, Nick Chubb, McCaffrey, 644 00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,480 I would argue that they would tell you that they're better the more they get 645 00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:45,079 the ball, and they would prefer not to be, you know, replaced 646 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,280 on any down. I know I didn't want to be replaced on any down. 647 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,280 But those two guys are great running backs, and I know the Bills 648 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,360 have got a couple of smaller guys. One is Cook's brother, so I 649 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,519 don't see them pick it up Cook Let's they want to share the position with 650 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,880 his brother. But other than Harris, the other two backs they ever kind 651 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:15,480 of small. They're fine, damn play I'm talented, But to me, 652 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,719 the main thing you want to do in Buffalo is to protect Josh Shallon, 653 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,440 and you need somebody's gonna pick up those two hundred and forty pounds. Monsters 654 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,920 are gonna be blitzing, and I don't see those younger guys doing a great 655 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,920 job, those smaller guys doing a great job on that. When I know 656 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:39,119 Ezekiel Elliott would Ezekiel isn't one of the best past blocking running backs I've ever 657 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,719 seen. Plus I think he catches the ball. We know he can catch 658 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,320 the ball. Plus I think he's still got popped in his running game. 659 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,800 Delvin Cook is still a threat. There's no doubt about it. He could 660 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,119 score from anywhere on the football fielding Literally, I would say, honestly, 661 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,400 any place that these two guys go to, despite them that the value in 662 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,440 the running back, they're gonna be a better team. Wherever any one of 663 00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:13,199 those two guys go, They're gonna be a much better football team. I'm 664 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:21,079 just saying, the Buffalo take on look at these guys, take care well 665 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,840 the story, just saying they were taking a look at Execiel Elliott for a 666 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,079 while and they decided, no, it's not worth it. And I think 667 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,920 they'd all like consider Dlvid Cook, but he wants, he wants to get 668 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,239 paid. And no. I mean, like the thing about the running back 669 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,039 position in today's game. In the NFL, it's a pastic league. So 670 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,239 the running back doesn't just run through holes. He has to be able to 671 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,320 come out of the back to them to catch the ball. He also has 672 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,079 to be able to pick up the blitzers on second and third and fourth down 673 00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,079 if they go that far. So I mean, he you know, if 674 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:53,480 he's not just about that's why these guys get replaced. Some of these guys 675 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,719 can't pass block, you know, to save their lives, and so that's 676 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,320 why they get pulled on third down passing situation. So Mike Shanahan kind of 677 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,320 ruined it for everybody when he realized, you know, anybody could play this 678 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,440 position as long as you have the offensive line mine to hold it right. 679 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,480 Yeah, Well, because anybody that's coming, I always think, you know, 680 00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,840 how good you have to be to suck at the NFL right, right, 681 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,760 and and some guys just get in the right situation. We'll never know. 682 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,360 And rightfully, so, if Josh Allen had ended up with the Jets, 683 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,079 or Josh Allen had ended up with any other team that was not a 684 00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:30,840 coach by Andy Reid or McDermott type, you know what I mean, And 685 00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:36,599 that all these other coaches are good, but sometimes it's just the system isn't 686 00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:38,280 Ryan. You have to have a match where you land in the draft. 687 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,400 It's just as important as how good you are, you know. I think 688 00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:45,239 if if Baker Mayfield hadn't landed somehow in Kansas City. It was a year 689 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,480 later after Mahomes was drafted. He'd be a different quarterback right now, he'd 690 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,639 still be playing for the Chiefs. But he landed in Cleveland, and he 691 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,920 had three different coaches in three years and just screwed him up. But he 692 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,320 wasn't that good to begin with, right, Yeah, that was and over 693 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,679 overreach. Uh. O J. Simpson though, twenty nine years ago. 694 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,400 I look to see there a lot of reference to him in rap songs. 695 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,840 Oh yeah, yeah, but this is one. I've never heard of this, 696 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880 but I think it's from a year ago. It's from somebody named Josh 697 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,639 Stanley. It's called O. J. Simpson. Just listen to just a 698 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:45,840 little bit of it, like cool Jesus car there is no Jesus. I 699 00:48:45,880 --> 00:49:12,159 guess this is a serious song. Okay, I don't get it. No, 700 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,840 am I missing it? I know. I mean, maybe he's try 701 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440 he's tried to deny that he did something stupid, and maybe he's talking to 702 00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:21,920 his girl. Yeah, I don't recall. I don't recall messing around on 703 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:27,400 you. That's a figment of your imagine. A Yeah, there's a let's 704 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,719 see there's jay Z the story of o J. Yeah, do you know 705 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,639 that one? I've I've heard about it. I don't know what so I 706 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,840 mean, these are all just think about like this Doctor. I think Doctor 707 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,880 Dre and ice Cube tried to do one too, they back in the nineties. 708 00:49:45,760 --> 00:50:10,760 Rock Nation presents the story of Oja from jay Z's album What going On. 709 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:28,679 In the song I'll stare in my headphones light nigga, niggah, nigga. 710 00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:36,440 Okay, maybe he's talking about the guy in Buffalo. Just uh oh, 711 00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:38,280 we'll take care of that. But then, what do you remember? 712 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,199 Because you were so I was fourteen going on fifteen. The first thing I 713 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,440 remember is um I was off from school. It was exam week, and 714 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:49,719 since I had gotten straight like straight, like my grades were all in the 715 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,760 nineties, I didn't have to take any exams, which was awesome. So 716 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,119 I get home and I'm watching TV and all of a sudden they break in 717 00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:59,400 the afternoon and say, O J. Simpson, Oh no, O J. 718 00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:04,000 Simpsons ex wife and boyfriend have been murdered, and I'm like, okay. 719 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,800 And then the next day on Sports Center, the lead story wasn't OJ 720 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,360 Simpson. The lead story was Mike Tyson being denied parole the first time, 721 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,280 that was the lead story. It wasn't Ojj's like, oh, there's no 722 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,679 way this guy committed a double Hamas. And then they did a little digging, 723 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,119 and then when he hires Robert Shapiro, all of a sudden, he's 724 00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:24,519 like, oh, oh yeah, that's a criminal attorney. Supping's up. 725 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,440 And then the wheels started turning and my file he goes, they found blood 726 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,159 in his car, Danny, he did it, And I'm like, no, 727 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,239 not OJ, come on, it's Oja. I'm fourteen. I think 728 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,519 there's no way this guy every thought. And that's what I've learned the first 729 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,719 adult lesson of my life, which is, you never really know somebody. 730 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:51,280 No you don't. Yeah, you never really know somebody, yeah and so, 731 00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:55,360 but you don't always stuck me so odd to that point. But we 732 00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:00,840 did find this out, right, We found it out. We heard the 733 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,719 nine one one calls from Nicole. We heard how she thought he she feared 734 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,719 for life at times. We heard about her sister testifying things that she knew 735 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,559 that OJ had done, and what her sister had told her, or what 736 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,880 she heard put in a safe deposit box and or I think this sister even 737 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:24,920 witnessed some things, right, and yet after he's acquitted most to Miami, 738 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,119 he's got a girlfriend. Yeah, he's got a fucking girlfriend. What you 739 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,320 gotta be kidding me? Like, could you imagine going to your family? 740 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,079 Listen, my boyfriend's gonna come over. You may have heard of him, 741 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,119 sweet guy, sweet guy, great ballplayer back in the day. Oh my 742 00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:50,199 god, it was amazing and we loved a lot of his movies of who 743 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,719 is usy OJ Simpson? I mean, can you imagine, like would you 744 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,280 sleep with one eye open? Can you feel that trusting? You must really 745 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,880 believe that that person didn't do it? You have to fully believe that, 746 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,679 or you just really are desperate for the attention. And I think some people 747 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:13,519 would even, you know. I mean that's that's like soul selling to date 748 00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,599 that I don't know if if people became known, I mean, look on 749 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,119 social media now you'd be it would be quicker and easier to get known if 750 00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:24,639 you were OJ Simpson's girlfriend. But I remember seeing like OJ on the beach 751 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,599 and it's like aerial shots on the Inquirer or whatever it was, and I'm 752 00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,599 like, he's got a chick and he's got Yeah, OJ and his girlfriend 753 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,559 and maybe I saw a video somewhere and I'm going this is insanity to me, 754 00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:40,079 Like how can it was? I'm gonna saying that's like ninety seven ninety 755 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:45,159 eighth. Yeah, the trial had so I always like question those things. 756 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,519 But court TV came out of that, Yes, OJ, I think reality 757 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,159 TV came out of that. Cato Kalin got multiple radio shows. Yeah, 758 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:59,039 if hecame a celebrity, he was on he was like that B celebrity. 759 00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:00,360 Did he do a surreal Yeah? I think he did us in real life 760 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,840 maybe Hollywood Squares With. He also went to Doctor Drew Show. I think 761 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,559 he ended up in like rehab he did. I think he was on Doctor 762 00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:09,280 Drew Show at one point. You know what else came out of that. 763 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,400 Horaldo Rivera resurrected his whole career. Tonight OJ Sipson like Fox News was looking 764 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,079 for content and he was just doing OJ special every night and that became a 765 00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:22,559 thing. Like it was just like like you know, Maury Povich is always 766 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,760 you are not the father, Well, Horaldo was like because Horaldo had gotten 767 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,199 a bad rep and he kind of gone away for a while. Al Capone's 768 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:36,360 vault into nothing in there right right, and so all of a sudden like 769 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,199 OJ was like used to resurrect his career. Fred Goldman, I don't know 770 00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:43,519 if you know this. You you were working in radio at the time. 771 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,039 Fred Goldman had a radio show here in Rochester and wham, Yeah, Jeff 772 00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:50,920 Hollett went to him and convinced him to like do a radio show, but 773 00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:52,960 he didn't like. I don't know if he didn't like doing it or if 774 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,679 it just didn't work out. But that that spot that I think eventually became 775 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,679 Bob Lonsbury's, but he was doing a mid day talk show. Yeah, 776 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,079 you know that was just exclusive to Rochester. Yes, yeah, yeah, 777 00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,119 they had a couple of people. I think that they tried to launch nationally 778 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,079 out of there. I think the Who's the Delilah Delilah too, Yeah, 779 00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:15,920 Delilah came out of here. Yeah, and then uh and then you go. 780 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:19,519 Man, there's some stories about it. I'm sure. I'm sure. 781 00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,639 I don't even need to Yeah, it's broads and radio. It's people in 782 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,800 radio. They're fucked up, daddy, I know they're fucked up. JT 783 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,480 the late j T Away told us they're all for crazy. Yeah, but 784 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:34,119 they're just you know, uh Goldman having a radio show. Yeah, I 785 00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:38,599 mean there's only one purpose. Yeah, you know, it's because you're daughter 786 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:45,079 was brutally murdered by having your son excuse your son, Yes Goldman, you're 787 00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:50,599 right, brutally murdered in the by you know, somebody who was beloved, 788 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,800 a beloved sports figure that transcended the sport O J. Simpson, Right, 789 00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:59,920 Uh yeah, Johnny Cochran became a national hero. Well see, those guys 790 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,559 were lawyers and stuff. I'll just say, you kind of can't. And 791 00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,719 then Kato Kaylan is a good example. No matter what you do, you 792 00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:12,280 can't just put people in front of a microphone and expect because they'll run out 793 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,719 of story. Yeah. Well right when they try to give him a radio 794 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,960 show, I always think that they did it just proves it doesn't matter. 795 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,519 Yeah, I go on, I go on a stupid radio ramp. But 796 00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:28,239 I wouldn't. I would say with anything where there's a microphone, not everybody's 797 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,119 gonna always have a story. Not you don't we all live on the planet. 798 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,440 Not every day is the most exciting day of your life. Yes, 799 00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:38,519 right, but if you are good at pulling things out of people and you 800 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:43,440 can facilitate and you can do things. So is Kato Kaylyn gonna be a 801 00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:45,760 guy to lead? No, but he could be a guy that that's on 802 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,119 your show. But I think like the initial thing is we got Kato, 803 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,119 like it's it's interesting, but that interest fades when there's nothing beyond that, 804 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,199 that's when it dies. That's why a lot of times, and it's not 805 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,159 always the case, but a lot of times comics don't do really well in 806 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:06,559 the radio because they're the same act right every city, same act they set 807 00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:09,599 and they phone that set and refine that set, but there's not so much 808 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,920 in the moment stuff. And when you find those guys, I would think 809 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,320 Tommy Mulat being one of those guys exception. Yeah, there's a rare, 810 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,000 rare rarity in a gem And I think Artie Lang was like that for Howard. 811 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:22,920 I mean it was a real, real, like diamond. It was 812 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,599 like they always had something funny. They just see everything that way and it 813 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,000 wasn't so much an act. It was kind of who they were. Uh. 814 00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:35,599 But so I always go, man, you know people fucking guys like 815 00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:39,079 Kato Kayla, what the hell go Well, it's like the time they tried 816 00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:43,800 to give Richard Hatch a radio show after Survivors. Yeah, before it doesn't 817 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,239 work. Um, but o J. So twenty nine years ago today is 818 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,880 when we found out about the murders. Yes, and then was it twenty 819 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,199 It was the day the night the murders were committed. It was a late 820 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,800 night night, okay. And then we so we don't find out about the 821 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,360 murders till tomorrow and tomorrow morning and then he does the run on the seventeenth 822 00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:05,920 is how we go that many days? I think it was the eighteenth. 823 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,480 It was a Friday. So so the twelfth was the day the murders were 824 00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:10,880 committed to the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteenth, Okay, it was 825 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,920 the seventeenth. The seventeenth was the day where, like everything in sports happened 826 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,440 at once, the World Cup had started in the United States. Yes, 827 00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:22,320 the Rangers had their parade after breaking the curse of nineteen forty and winning the 828 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:28,079 Stanley Cup. Arnold Palmer had played his last US Open round that day, 829 00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:31,559 and Ken Griffey Junior became the youngest player too. I think hit like four 830 00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:37,159 hundred home runs. And while the broadcasters in Kansas City are talking about it, 831 00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,800 they're talking about OJ being on the on the run. He hits one 832 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,559 into the drink at Kansas City. It sets that record and then this it's 833 00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:47,880 like the nuttiest day in sports history. While OJ's like driving. There's a 834 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,440 thirty for thirty about it on ESPN. If you get an ESPN Plus you 835 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,119 can just pull it in and watch it. And but yeah, that's and 836 00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:59,000 that's the day that OJ decided to take. It was supposed to surrender at 837 00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:01,599 eleven o'clock in them, Yeah, and then of eleven o' clock becomes one 838 00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:06,800 o'clock. Saw this, we all thought it was guilty. Oh yeah, 839 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,199 yeah, I mean why else doing that? Yeah? Right, well yeah, 840 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,719 most people I would think like, why are you doing this? And 841 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,199 at the same time, I don't. I can't imagine his life after the 842 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,519 trial for the last twenty nine years. It's probably gotten better after coming out 843 00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:23,639 of prison now. And I mean you saw him up the Bills games and 844 00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:28,400 people are like picture of the d Yeah, I know, right, okay, 845 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,360 uh, but I would think like immediately after, I wouldn't really want 846 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,519 to leave my house often, right unless I and I would want some kind 847 00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:42,559 of security around me. And people get bold and you know it's got to 848 00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:45,840 be expensive being O J. I'm not I'm not kidding, Like I don't 849 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,199 know how he does it because I mean, like he's not he doesn't have 850 00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:52,760 any endorsements. He only gets The only thing they couldn't take from him was 851 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,360 his NFL pension. Right, and so after the UH he was found liable 852 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,440 for the murders in the civil case, he had to pay something like thirty 853 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,119 three million dollars. Right, He's only paid like like a fraction of like 854 01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,280 a nine hundred thousand or something like that. I don't even know. So 855 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,239 they created all these shell companies where he could hide his money. Okay, 856 01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:14,960 so there was no way for OJ to like you that you could take money 857 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,320 from OJ. However, he was still making money as OJ Simpson doing memoir 858 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,320 billion stuff. I don't know like how he's making money now, Yeah, 859 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,360 I mean, is he still like doing signings and going to places because he's 860 01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:28,880 he's like landlocked, they think in Nevada. I don't think he's going anywhere. 861 01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:30,119 No, I don't think he can't because he's on parole. Nobody goes 862 01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:34,159 out and plays golf and stuff. Yeah, yeah, unless he gets a 863 01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,440 permit or something. He was in Buffalo last year or two years ago. 864 01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:40,440 So but I mean, yeah, I don't I don't know, but uh 865 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,480 but yeah, I mean I my grandmother and my father and I watched that 866 01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:47,519 trial from start to finish, like every day, coming with three o'clock watch 867 01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:52,719 OJ. You know. But we think OJ kept my grandma alive. She 868 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,119 gave her something to do. She she was obsessed with OJ. When the 869 01:00:55,199 --> 01:00:59,639 prosecution would get up there, Oh he's guilty, he's so guilty. He 870 01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:01,760 it. Johnny Cocker gets up, you know, Danny, I don't think 871 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,000 he did it. I don't think so. I think he was framed. 872 01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,159 She was like a seventy eight year old woman. I mean, yeah, 873 01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:13,440 I just go back and forth. But I mean, like it was fascinating. 874 01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:15,880 But but the chase, though, the chase was like except that where 875 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,679 we were all like glued to that television. You said too because you were 876 01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,079 on the air, right, yeah, I mean when you do a play 877 01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:27,239 by play. H I think Bowl might have been on the air and we 878 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,360 all ran into the studio, or maybe I was on the air because it 879 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:37,440 was a Friday night, so it might have been transitioning from him to me. 880 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:44,079 And then I think for the trial and stuff. I do remember that 881 01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,199 was when they brought a TV into the studio when they were going to get 882 01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:52,199 the verdict. Um. Yeah, it was just something that you kind of 883 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,239 remember exactly where you were and what had happened, and uh, it's bizarre. 884 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,920 It sad. And I would love to talk to you with Jeffrey two 885 01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:04,280 at some point because you know, it'd be interesting to see, like what 886 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,400 was it like to be in that courtroom and you know you're a young reporter. 887 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:13,000 And I did hear him describe ones going when that verdict came out. 888 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,800 Man, the oxygen left the room. People couldn't believe it. Yeah, 889 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:22,960 and he was and he was sitting directly behind the Goldman's mister Goldman remember his 890 01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:28,119 daughter, His daughter just like screaming and crying out. But then they show 891 01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:32,159 all these other people around, like the country listening on radios and stuff in 892 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,320 LA and it was like, dude, this giant cheer. Yeah, and 893 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:42,440 it really really showed you. I think a divide that we we white folk, 894 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,079 I'll put it that way. Didn't know about I don't know, right, 895 01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:50,039 And I think I know you were too young, but I think most 896 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:54,840 people had no I didn't pay attention. Right, we didn't. I didn't 897 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,199 have to pay Attending's good, right, we didn't have to pay attention. 898 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,039 And I think that it was kind of like then I opened her well, 899 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:04,840 Rodney King had just happened. In fact, that that series, the FX 900 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,920 series, the Jeffrey Tuban wrote the book about that became the FX series. 901 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,119 It starts with the Rodney King beating. Yeah, that's the very first scene 902 01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,760 as the Rodney King beating you. Now here's Los Angeles three years later or 903 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,840 two and a half years later, and here's the aftermath. And I remember 904 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,599 I was in high school at the time. The verdict was being announced, 905 01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,599 right, So of course they're wheeling and TVs to certain rooms. I'm in 906 01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:28,840 the library. The bell rings. I got gym class coming up. So 907 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,039 now I'm like, I don't want to be late for Jim class because mister 908 01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:32,760 Raymond would make us run if we were late. So I'm like, oh 909 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,760 crap, the verdicts coming down. So what do we do? I stay? 910 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,280 Do I go? Do I stay? Do I go? So I 911 01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:45,440 sprinted down and mister Raymond headed on the radio in his office and they announced 912 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,880 that he was not guilty, and half the gym class was like, whoa, 913 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,840 you know, he didn't I told you he didn't do it. And 914 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,760 I'm like, that doesn't mean he didn't do it. It just he was 915 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,679 found not guilty, right, Uh. And then he wrote the book if 916 01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:02,039 I did it, If I did it? Yeah, yeah, all this 917 01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,159 just such strange stuff. And I think that was an attempt to make money. 918 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,440 Yeah. I wonder who suggested that. It was, I know who 919 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,360 suggested it. His daughter told him, you know, you only want to 920 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,599 set the record straight on this, and it was, oh gosh, Simon 921 01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:19,599 Schuster, I think was the Uh. I don't want to I don't want 922 01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:23,280 to be smirked the name of the publisher. But there was a publisher who 923 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,199 got a lot of crap for publishing this book and the gold and it wasn't 924 01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:30,360 gonna be published. They put it on hold, and the Goldman said no, 925 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,039 no, no, it's part of the settlement. Released the book. 926 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:35,800 Just make one little change. 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He listens to good. That's good. That's what 990 01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:25,000 you like that. Danny's breaking down the film. Well like that. OJ 991 01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:30,359 Simpson also became a punchline in uh much of our country. Let's get to 992 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,920 OJ OJ Simpson players. So they don't want the families of Nicole Brown and 993 01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:39,479 Ronald Goldman in the courtroom during the trial. They're afraid the presence of the 994 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,920 family members. We'll just remind OJ of how much more killing he still has 995 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:50,359 to do now this that that's why I got fired. They think that he 996 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:55,359 got fired from Saturday and Alive because one of the exam Yeah was tight with 997 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,119 OJ. Right, well, Don Olmier creating Monday Night Football. Yeah, 998 01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,800 and he worked at NBC at the time. But that's why he got lorm 999 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,760 fire because he kept ripping out OJ even though it was all true. Yeah. 1000 01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:06,039 And the Pope came out with a book this week which contains a series 1001 01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:11,920 of essays examining faith and morality in today's secular world and the changing role of 1002 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,520 the Catholic Church as it approaches the twenty first century. The book is entitled 1003 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:27,560 God himself told me that OJ is guilted. But no, he gonna go 1004 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,039 put out a tape his version. He's not a smart man. You know. 1005 01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:34,439 He's starting to tape off, trying to discredit his wife. Now she 1006 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:41,840 did. Can't defend herself, he told him. First of all, it 1007 01:10:42,079 --> 01:10:51,000 is ludicrous Chris not to be confused with super sugar crisp to think that I 1008 01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:57,199 would want to kill Nicole. See, that was some old pussy for me. 1009 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,560 You know, I tapped that a few times, dropped a few Captain. 1010 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:08,000 I was moving on to some bigger, better white of winmen. I 1011 01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:14,279 mean, everybody I know, fuck Nicole Brown, Marcus Allen, Byron Allen, 1012 01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:23,319 Woody Allen, Ethan Allen, Allen or your name matter be with nah. 1013 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:30,760 I want to walk you all through this stupposed crime. That's right, 1014 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,680 they say, I stupposedly jumped over this wall here on the night in question. 1015 01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:42,720 Now, if you know me from football or maybe one of my Hurts 1016 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,119 commercials where I jumped over the car, or as of lately, the high 1017 01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:51,520 impac aerobic tape, you know I got bad knees, ash she bad knees. 1018 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,399 No way I could have jumped over this wall. I'm gonna demonstrate to 1019 01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,119 you. I'm gonna show you with the condition of my knee, there's no 1020 01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:06,479 way I could have got just walking old dawn my knee. See, so 1021 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,640 that's half a miss Marsha case just right out the window. Now here's the 1022 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:19,840 kicker. They say, I rellegedly dropped a glove at the scene of the 1023 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,720 crime. Now, I played football with some twenty nine some odd years. 1024 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,720 Never once did I drop the ball. How the fuck I'm gonna drop a 1025 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:36,199 glove at the scene of Look, my hands is a training machine. I 1026 01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:40,680 can hold on to anything under any circumstance, you know what. I and 1027 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,079 beside the glove just ain't gonna slip off. No hand this big. He's 1028 01:12:44,079 --> 01:12:45,880 that big. My hands I could wipe my ass and scratch my head at 1029 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,479 the same time with this. Now, I'm gonna demonstrate to you there's no 1030 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,720 way I could have dropped no glove at the scene the crime because my hand 1031 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,760 is so good. Now, I want you to take this ball, and 1032 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,399 I want you to through it. You thought it any where you wanting. 1033 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,800 I'm gonna kitchen. I don't can't where you throwing? You know what? 1034 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:11,520 Throw it over the wall. I show you that no way I have. 1035 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:24,680 You see, there's no way I would have high stepping all right there? 1036 01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:29,159 Who is that? That's David Wayne's. Should we do one more? This 1037 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,760 is uh one of my all time favorites. I think we're gonna get a 1038 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:36,000 thing here. Uh. I love this guy stand up and he is more 1039 01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:40,600 famous today than he ever was when he did stand up, you know, 1040 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,119 to my favorite kind of material. He's always of a controversial nature. Ain't 1041 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:50,600 nothing, Steve Harvey. Okay, here we go. I don't need a 1042 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:56,119 looking round getting mad at what I'm about to say. These are my opinions, 1043 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,960 therefore it makes them the right ones. You got a different opinion, 1044 01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:05,199 keep it to yourself. Ain't nobody in here paid to hear what you think. 1045 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:13,560 That's what I'm here for. You might as well get it out the 1046 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:24,159 way. It's in the news every day. O J. Simpson. Now 1047 01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:27,039 you can have your opinion or whether you think he did it or not, 1048 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,800 most people have formed war already. You may not agree with what I'm about 1049 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,520 to say, but damn it, I think he did it. I think 1050 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:41,279 O J. Killed everybody in that goddamn driveway, tried to kill that dog 1051 01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:45,800 too. Dog had blood on his ass. He was just too quick for 1052 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:53,640 Ojay's ass shot ta. A couple of things make me think he didn't. 1053 01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:57,039 First of all, like my daddy always say, stick to what you do. 1054 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,960 You're a football player, hey, or play football. If you don't 1055 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,880 know how to commit murder, damn it, don't do it. Stay your 1056 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:09,439 ass at the house. Put out that trying killing people for if you ain't 1057 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,960 good at it. Plus his old ignorant aston got ever just popping up everywhere. 1058 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:26,000 Somebody say they found a Highman trophy in the bushes. I am not 1059 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:29,560 up to thinking that. The media got us going out trying to turn it 1060 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,600 into a racial issue. This ain't about race. This about somebody then killed 1061 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,920 somebody else. And I don't care what color he is. If he killed 1062 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,920 somebody, he got to go. I don't give a damn if he do 1063 01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:43,800 play football. And I ain't back. And nobody just calls you black. 1064 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,279 If you didn't kill somebody blue, black, green, yellow, your ass 1065 01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:49,880 got to go. I'll tell you that right now. And and and the 1066 01:15:50,039 --> 01:15:55,239 media then got all a Black America in a uproar body being a race issue. 1067 01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:59,199 This ain't race, you understand me, oh, j ain't been black 1068 01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:05,159 shins. He won that lass. I mean, it's just yeah, you 1069 01:16:05,279 --> 01:16:10,600 know, I was always a big fan of his stand up. If you 1070 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,920 really want to see great Steve Harvey stand up, the King's a comedy for 1071 01:16:15,079 --> 01:16:18,960 no damn body. He didn't get no sun kiss my ass. I can 1072 01:16:19,119 --> 01:16:24,119 let right now. Oh, I might go down to picket, but you 1073 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:28,399 ain't gonna lackmus on my side because I'm gonna have fuck old jail on both 1074 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:44,800 side. He's marching holding the mic standout stage. There you go better. 1075 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,279 Hope has made therapy more. I don't know if they if they give you 1076 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,520 a little bit more. Everything's got an ad nowadays. No, I know. 1077 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,920 That's why I actually I have a Twitter, Twitter or YouTube subscription just 1078 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,199 to get her to the ads. Yeah, that was it. That was 1079 01:16:57,279 --> 01:17:00,319 the only bit. Uh. Chris Rock had a great bit Dave Chappelle when 1080 01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:05,039 he came back after years of oh yeah, he had like where he met. 1081 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:11,600 Yeah that was like see I see the cole which comes up to Bach 1082 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:17,399 goes good luck to go rot, bitch, you gonna get killed? He 1083 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:24,279 goes, No, I didn't say that. Um, it's unbelievable, but 1084 01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:30,720 transpires right, you can't look down but the greatest thing and we never think 1085 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,680 this way. We all have our own experience in life. But everything is 1086 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:41,199 happening all at once. You realize that. Yeah, And when you're talking 1087 01:17:41,239 --> 01:17:46,840 about OJ's on the run and it's one of the biggest sports days and we've 1088 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:53,319 got a record breaking home run with Ken Griffey Junior being the fastest to whatever, 1089 01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:00,039 I just think that that's it's everything is happening all at once, and 1090 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,960 it's, uh, it's weird. It really was. I mean just oh 1091 01:18:03,039 --> 01:18:05,359 yeah, the NBA Finals were going on. I forgot to mention that. 1092 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,560 I mean, it's just it was so much and I just everybody in buff 1093 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,640 Western New York just stopped what they were doing and got in the house and 1094 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,399 watched OJ. Yeah, until it was older. It was after midnight. 1095 01:18:18,039 --> 01:18:21,319 And uh, you know in the ESPN documentary which Leo Roth mentioned, the 1096 01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:27,600 Ezra Edelman documentary UM made in America, they spent just one day or one 1097 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,960 episode just on the chase. And how you know OJ, the the the 1098 01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:35,399 police officer that talked him out of it, or the detective to talked to 1099 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,439 him out of it, went to OJ's house. He sees everybody eating they 1100 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,880 had ordered Chinese food or no, they'd ordered subs. They out and they're 1101 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,239 just sitting there eating, like waiting for Dad to come home, like it 1102 01:18:45,359 --> 01:18:48,039 was no big deal. And he's looking around. He's got OJ on the 1103 01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:53,640 phone, and OJ is like, you know, threatening suicide, and he 1104 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,039 goes, I think I know how to talk him down. And he's looking 1105 01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,840 because all the pictures of the house were all of OJ Simpson, none of 1106 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,640 his kids, out of his family, just juice, and he goes, 1107 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,880 I'm gonnappeal to his ego and try to get him to like, you know, 1108 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,520 put the gun down and you know and everything else. And it worked. 1109 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,319 And it worked because a lot of people were waiting for OJ to get 1110 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,159 killed basically by the cops. Yeah, that's what the that's what they were 1111 01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,479 waiting for, and it didn't have He goes, I cannot have Oj Sipson 1112 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,000 get killed at all. I can't have him commit suicide. So he had 1113 01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:26,159 like the toughest job in America at that point, while Clinton's probably hanging out 1114 01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:30,279 with Lewinsky somewhere doing something. But I mean, it was it was unbelieved. 1115 01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:32,439 It was just surreal everything else. And then of course you mentioned the 1116 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,479 family and you get to the kids. Yeah, yeah, you wonder what 1117 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,920 it was like to be the older kids, because I think they were still 1118 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,680 in high school at the time, though they were they were they had already 1119 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,039 graduated college. Yeah. In fact, at one point or not, at 1120 01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:48,840 one point, people thought that his son Pastion did either did it or helped 1121 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,239 him do it. Yeah, because it's amazing, like, how do you 1122 01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:58,560 walk around and everybody knows, you know, there was nobody that didn't know, 1123 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,159 right, felt like at least and then you look at the little kids, 1124 01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:05,720 how do they go on? Because I don't even know if they have 1125 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,640 a relationship with him. I have no idea. I have no idea. 1126 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,079 I know that the daughters, the daughter gets a lot of crap for being 1127 01:20:14,119 --> 01:20:15,800 OJ's kid, and I think she's just kind of written everybody off. But 1128 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,720 I mean, it's really it's really sad. Like they went to go live 1129 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,520 with the Browns, right they were in the custom and then I think it 1130 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,079 was Christmas Eve of like ninety five or ninety six, after OJ had gotten 1131 01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:32,199 off that the courts ruled that they had to go back to Juice, and 1132 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,760 so he's coming to pick them up on Christmas eve and they don't necessarily want 1133 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,640 to go, but it's like they're my kids. You can't force them. 1134 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,479 And the grandmother goes. We never say anything bad about Ojanny, that's their 1135 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,920 father, but we know that he killed our daughter. So how do you 1136 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,840 navigate this? It's a very hard thing, Like if they really and and 1137 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:55,239 they probably didn't say anything. Yeah, because you're right. It is like 1138 01:20:55,399 --> 01:20:59,960 I, even in situation I'm in, I tried, I'd never say any 1139 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,720 anything. I never say anything. And I know my family never says anything. 1140 01:21:04,279 --> 01:21:10,279 They don't because and my dad, uh not that this just means anything. 1141 01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:15,680 But just to kind of show you, we'll still send Jenna a Mother's 1142 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,000 Day card because he'll say she is the mother of my Grandschranchel, and you 1143 01:21:19,079 --> 01:21:24,359 know I recognize that, and he does it every year and I have no 1144 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,359 problem with it. I have no I have no problem with it. I 1145 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,239 there were my reasons and whatever, but that's fine, and I would but 1146 01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:34,840 I never would. I'll always say I don't even let the guys sometimes, 1147 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,720 you know, especially the older guys, will start to complain about and I'll 1148 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,239 say, hang on a second, and there's your mom and she's in a 1149 01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:43,520 lot for you enough. I don't want to hear it. Yeah, I 1150 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,640 don't want to hear it. And it's not to be magnanimous or a hero. 1151 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,399 I will say this. One of the most important relationships in everybody's life 1152 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:55,920 is their mom, and especially in a young man's life, and that'll change 1153 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,600 your dad becomes There are certain years your dad's important, but your mom's always 1154 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,439 important. Your dad's always important, but there are certain years that dad's a 1155 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,239 little more important than but mom is always important. And I think that he 1156 01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:12,119 just I think, especially for young man, I still think the majority, 1157 01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,359 even though we'll hear about transgenders and different waffling of who you're gonna be or 1158 01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:19,079 what you're gonna be, I think for the most part, we still are 1159 01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:24,319 traditional human animals and there's male and female, and how you treat your mom 1160 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,680 is a big indicator and how you're going to treat another woman. And I 1161 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,960 think that you should always no matter what, no matter how mad you get 1162 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,600 it, your mom. You know, there was a guy I know who 1163 01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:43,039 told a great story at his brother's wedding at a roast and how they had 1164 01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:45,359 an old aunt that would come over and she would sit in a chair all 1165 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,560 day she was a heavy set woman. She would sit in the chair and 1166 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:53,720 when she would leave, after having sat there for hours and hours in this 1167 01:22:53,880 --> 01:23:00,880 chair, they would take the younger brother's face and push it. And he 1168 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:08,359 tells this story and it happened to be his late father's sister. And his 1169 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:15,239 mother was furious that he would tell this story and pulled him aside. And 1170 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,880 he was with the woman who was not his wife yet at the time. 1171 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:25,239 They did get married and are still married, and he in front of his 1172 01:23:25,359 --> 01:23:29,159 mother, you know, really gave it to him about how disappointed she was 1173 01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:30,840 and this was blah blah blah, and how embarrassing for the family, and 1174 01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:33,560 you know, basically making fun of your aunt being a big, fat lady 1175 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:40,640 and you're shoving your brother's face and blah blah. And he said, I'm 1176 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:50,760 sorry, that was it another word. And his now wife was like so 1177 01:23:51,079 --> 01:23:55,159 impressed, only because I'm thinking in my head, if I did it, 1178 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,439 come on, man, it was a joke. Jimp in fat ass, 1179 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:03,000 you're overreacting. He didn't do that. He had great respect for his mom, 1180 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:12,239 and I you know, I think, like a lot of times that 1181 01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:17,039 old saying that youth is wasted on the young it's only because everything is again, 1182 01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:20,680 it's all happening at once, but you can't slow down to just bring 1183 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,359 it to just me and what's going to make me feel good? And when 1184 01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:26,720 I feel good, I'm better for other people, and that sort of thing. 1185 01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:30,399 And the less said the better, The less said the better. I 1186 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,600 had a situation in my family. I won't go into too much detail on 1187 01:24:35,159 --> 01:24:42,399 exactly what it is, but somebody didn't want somebody doing something, and the 1188 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,760 person was getting themselves very upset about it and going around and around and around, 1189 01:24:47,399 --> 01:24:50,600 and I can only go around the block with you about three times and 1190 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:55,880 when you get now we're on lap three of the same thing and nothing's happening, 1191 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,680 and you know your frustration. I gotta go. He stop, So 1192 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:05,920 you know I I suggested then you have to just be direct. And the 1193 01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:09,479 person starts telling me, well, here's what i'm gonna send, and I'm 1194 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,079 gonna say this and this and this and this is what I'm doing this day 1195 01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:14,279 and this, and I'm like, you can't, don't do that. Just 1196 01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:19,359 simply say I'm not comfortable with this. I appreciate your your sentiment, Please 1197 01:25:19,399 --> 01:25:26,600 don't get involved. That's it. Yeah, something to that exaid and you 1198 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,840 know, or please respect my wishes and no get involved. Uh that's it. 1199 01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:33,079 You don't. Oh, you don't need all these fucking words. And 1200 01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:35,720 we you know what you do. You just leave somebody to go, oh, 1201 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,479 okay, you're gonna do blah blah blah, and then you it's the 1202 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,399 fight. If you really want to just end something, just be direct, 1203 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,000 be direct, and calm about it. You know, nobody needs to be 1204 01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:47,920 an asshole, you know what I mean. I always said there's a difference 1205 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,000 between kind and nice. Nice to get walked on kind. You can draw 1206 01:25:51,079 --> 01:25:54,800 boundaries in my mind, and I think you need to be kind to everybody, 1207 01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:59,760 but you can draw those boundaries. And I do think, like you 1208 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,359 know, with your mom, you gotta drawston boundary something. But the less 1209 01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:06,720 said, I'm sure this person wanted to defend themselves, but for whatever reason, 1210 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,600 they didn't, and it just melted the panties off their future wife. 1211 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,920 I mean she was very I say that jokingly, but she was very impressed. 1212 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,119 And I and that's my big thing with you know, the parents and 1213 01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:23,920 so to hear, I don't know how, I don't know how you everybody 1214 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,439 else is trash and I'm I'm sure the kids heard, but if if the 1215 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,079 Brown family did not in front of the children, more power to him. 1216 01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:35,359 Man that that that's impressive, it really, I mean, that's impressive. 1217 01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:40,840 I'm so sorry. That's impressive because you know, at the end of the 1218 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,199 day, that's still your dad. Now, as you get older, you'll 1219 01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:47,279 make your own decisions on things, right, Walter Casper, who was notorious 1220 01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:50,640 in this region for putting his way, like they went up to I don't 1221 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:57,039 know, one of the one of the ravines, you know, look at 1222 01:26:57,079 --> 01:27:00,760 this and he jumps out and let's the minivan goal for the cliff and she 1223 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,680 went up killed. And they had three boys and the boy he went away, 1224 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,159 and the boys don't talk to him. He's out prison, they don't 1225 01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:12,840 talk to him. They have no relationship with him onceoever, and I don't 1226 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,880 know what he what those guys were told, But it would be hard not 1227 01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:19,520 to have the conversation about, you know, especially if you're of an age 1228 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,680 where you can read and absorb and hear. You know what I'm saying. 1229 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,119 Yeah, it's a little weird. It's a it's a tough situation to navigate. 1230 01:27:27,159 --> 01:27:29,600 There's a there's a there's a pro wrestling, like story like that where 1231 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,760 Kurt Angle. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. He had 1232 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,680 he was cheating on his wife, so they split up and she ended up 1233 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,520 going out with a guy named Jeff Jarrett and end up getting married. Everything 1234 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,920 else, well, Jeff would never bash Kurt to it in front of the 1235 01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:45,439 kids. Yeah, for years, because he's like, they don't want to. 1236 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,000 But Kurt would keep sniping at Jeff. Yeah, but sip so here's 1237 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,119 what. So eventually on a podcast, he finally said, enough, the 1238 01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:55,600 kids are old enough to hear this. Okay, dad cheated, their dad 1239 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,199 cheated on their mom. I would I had nothing to do with it. 1240 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,159 Here's what happened. He goes, they can make their own decisions now. 1241 01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:02,600 But I'm sick of having to defend my wife. But he goes, I 1242 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,319 waited until they were of age before I opened my mouth. While they were 1243 01:28:06,359 --> 01:28:10,680 growing up, I never fought back. I never addressed it, never touched 1244 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,119 it. Yeah. I always think like, even in those situations, you 1245 01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:15,960 got to go so long. Yeah yeah, and I'll believe me. I 1246 01:28:16,039 --> 01:28:19,640 could get sucked into all right, fine fucking nous in time, right, 1247 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,680 you can me doing that. But then on a podcast though, where it's 1248 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,880 wrestling like these guys, like the lines are blurred between real life and entertainment 1249 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,760 kfabe. They call it fake. So you know, that's that's why you 1250 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,600 finally decided, Oh, I gotta address this. Yeah, I think taking 1251 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,800 the high road is always the better way though. Yeah, right, there 1252 01:28:35,079 --> 01:28:39,279 is somebody dragging me down into the mud, and that's it. If you 1253 01:28:39,319 --> 01:28:42,319 can always kind of stay up above it a little bit, you're you are 1254 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,520 overall better off. And I do think that after a while people start to 1255 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,880 see it, you know, Like I'll be honest, My favorite people are 1256 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:55,119 the ones I find out all the cool, wonderful, nice things they did 1257 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,479 for other people that I had no idea because they never said anything, and 1258 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,640 I find out from somebody else George Michael's story. Yeah, but three died 1259 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,520 all of a sudden, where you came out and said, yeah, don't 1260 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,039 tell anybody this that I'm helping. All these stories came out, Yeah, 1261 01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:12,680 and I you kind of liked it. It gives you a different perspective because 1262 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,720 it's not somebody doing it because for recognition, exactly when you're doing it for 1263 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,439 recognition, it's it's not it's not charitable. Yeah, so the Bible surprise, 1264 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,560 the right hand should not know what the left hand is doing. So 1265 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:26,520 you should always just you know, And I always admire that. And there 1266 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,960 are other people who are like, well, you know, I mean when 1267 01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,000 I gave money to this one and I did that, and hey, I'm 1268 01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:34,039 here, and and that's wonderful that you do it, and that you have 1269 01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:36,680 the means you push your name on the go fund me and just said instead 1270 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,880 of clicking the anonymous box. I mean, I think, like you know, 1271 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,520 a lot of times we don't need that. I think that while I 1272 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,239 know, as you said that, I'm thinking like Tom golas on those names 1273 01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:47,560 on everything, but there's a lot of things that Tom does that nobody, 1274 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:54,880 nobody tells about. And there's other ones where you know he well he's a 1275 01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:00,119 businessman. And I do think that when you have billions of dollars to have 1276 01:30:00,279 --> 01:30:01,840 the hospital in your name on it, oh, I think we could thank 1277 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:06,960 you. I've often said to lots of people, I'm glad it's here. 1278 01:30:08,079 --> 01:30:10,680 I hope you never need it. Yeah, I hope you never need it, 1279 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,920 right, but if you do, it's the best, it's the greatest 1280 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,800 that you got it right. Yep, that kind of thing. All right, 1281 01:30:15,039 --> 01:30:18,560 we'll take a moment, Baby gronk Oh, we'll chat about him a 1282 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:25,680 little bit. Next. Is he the next Ryan Leaf or Todd Morenovich. 1283 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,560 That's the better one, Todd Morenovich. Hey, r V shoppers, I 1284 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,079 want you to catch the summer sell off happening now at all three Rochester area 1285 01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:36,600 Myers RV's locations. You can shop travel trailers, toy haulers, fifth wheels, 1286 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:41,079 motor homes and more. And they get all the top brands granted designed 1287 01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:44,720 Winnebago, Jaco, Keystone, Farts, River, and Thor. 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Some people have fear of what if they do something I can't 1320 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,439 afford in my mouth, or they don't tell me about what they're doing and 1321 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,359 I can't choose exactly what's happening that doesn't happen. It's Toronto Dentil. They 1322 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:08,319 explain everything to you. They explain all your options. They work with your 1323 01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:11,520 insurance company, They work with your health savings account to minimize your out of 1324 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,439 pocket expense Toronto Dential. They're gonna treat you right, and you're gonna be 1325 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,800 smiling him a call at four four two, nineteen hundred and online at Toronto 1326 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:46,159 dentil dot com. I'm sorry, so sorry. This is a Patsy client. 1327 01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:51,680 Is it Brenda leegue but very similar? Yeah? Oh so this is 1328 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:59,279 Brenda Lee. Oh now that's okay. So now that's on by Golden aera 1329 01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:02,399 Radar lovey, it's more sense. Now they've bet Britta Lee's a song, 1330 01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,119 you know. In other words, they haven't seen each other and forever. 1331 01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:19,039 Yeah, it's hard. Sometimes we're fools. Yeah, sometimes we do stupid 1332 01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:24,680 stuff. Story. Yeah, I did something really stupid, Billy, Well 1333 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,439 you didn't. I don't think he did anything stupid. I don't I screwed 1334 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,199 up. I don't think he did. No. See, I think that 1335 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,880 he can't be that guy. What what? What? Say? What happened? 1336 01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:45,880 I ate the rest of my wife's baklava. Now we went to the 1337 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,039 Greek fest on on Saturday. Yeah, bought a bunch of desserts. Yeah, 1338 01:34:49,279 --> 01:34:54,000 and that Greek food it's really good. Oh, I'm baklava, you 1339 01:34:54,079 --> 01:34:58,680 know, it's it's the Philo dough and honey and it's like the perfect dessert. 1340 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,560 It is. And so it's been sitting out in a in a in 1341 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:08,119 a clear box. Yeah, for about five days. Maybe she's been having 1342 01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:11,520 a little bit with her coffee every morning. It's it possible, Well I 1343 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,600 think so, see, Okay, Well no, here's the So Thursday, 1344 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,880 after the show that we taped, Thursday night, it was late, she 1345 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,319 had dinner. She was tired. She cooked me dinners and she goes to 1346 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:27,520 the microwave. Love you. I'm okay, eat the dinner. And then 1347 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,279 I noticed that the cannoli she had eaten her half of the cannoli of the 1348 01:35:31,319 --> 01:35:35,159 Greek canole that was left. And I see a piece of baklavak cut a 1349 01:35:35,319 --> 01:35:39,039 diagonal. I'm like, oh, she must have had her half of the 1350 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,159 back lava because we're gonna split it. They usually cut back lava diagonally. 1351 01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:45,880 Yeah, well you already. Yeah, I'm Italian and I'm stupid and oh 1352 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,119 no, no, it's fine. Even Well I don't know that because my 1353 01:35:49,319 --> 01:35:55,640 wife h had worked at a Greek bakery and made bac lava and that's how 1354 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,640 she cut it. So you wouldn't know it unless you know. So I 1355 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,479 don't have any Greek pastries in my life other than that, so I wouldn't 1356 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,920 have imagined that you would cut it again in half and leave only like a 1357 01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:09,760 quarter piece. That wouldn't make sense to me. So I'm like, oh, 1358 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,680 she must have cut it. Yeah, so the rest is for me, 1359 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,279 right, So I'm gonna have that for dessert. Yeah, bushed my 1360 01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:16,319 teeth to go to bed, right, makes sense. This morning, she 1361 01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:20,079 goes to kiss me goodbye before work, and she goes, I'm pissed. 1362 01:36:20,079 --> 01:36:25,279 I gotta go. Why would happen? Something happened at school? Yeah, 1363 01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:29,079 you ate the last you ate the baca le of eye. You never leave 1364 01:36:29,079 --> 01:36:31,520 anything for me. You don't think of me out the door. And I'm 1365 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,359 like at six o'clock in the morning and I'm like half awake, and I'm 1366 01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:39,359 like, oh my gosh, I have done that before, but I usually 1367 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,960 replace it if there's if I eat the last of something, I'll always buy 1368 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,239 her something else that's fresher and newer and everything else. So I mean, 1369 01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:49,119 like, it's but this was a situation where I thought she legitimately ate some 1370 01:36:49,359 --> 01:36:54,319 already ate her half listen listen, Uh huh, there's no UK you're never 1371 01:36:54,359 --> 01:36:57,640 gonna be able to justify this. Come to the wise one who has failed 1372 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:02,920 at relationships, and let me explain you how things because here here that you've 1373 01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:05,600 hit all the things. Yeah, done at all. He was an honest 1374 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:13,800 mistake. But the problem is, like anybody, maybe you know what your 1375 01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,800 day entails, and the highlight of your day is going to be that last 1376 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,439 piece of black lava. And you're thinking about him when you're in the shower, 1377 01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:24,520 You're thinking about him while you're getting dressed, even though it had been 1378 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,560 there for five days. Oh, it doesn't matter. So but that's what 1379 01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:31,319 you're thinking, And so it's there. Could it be? And I hope 1380 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,800 Beth wouldn't be offended by you're saying this. Could it be a little bit 1381 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:40,039 of an overreaction to the fact that the back it's gone? Maybe? Maybe 1382 01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:43,199 Could it also be that it's six o'clock in the morning. But here, 1383 01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:47,279 let's go back to this one. You have admitted to a pattern of never 1384 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,079 of eating the last of whatever something is. Now you say you replace it, 1385 01:37:51,159 --> 01:37:55,520 miss or mistakenly doing it, not realizing she didn't have it. Hang 1386 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,399 on, here's the thing. It's tough because she was already in bed. 1387 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,479 Usually you should always probably say do you mind if I have the last of 1388 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:10,079 whatever? Oh I was really hoping to have that tomorrow for work. Oh, 1389 01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:15,479 no problem, I'll eat the whatever other thing is there is. I'll 1390 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,920 go find some tree bark. Don't worry about me. I'll suffer silence. 1391 01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:21,319 No, but you know what I'm saying. But you usually okay, So 1392 01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:26,039 that's a good thing. Easier said than done. But sometimes if you just 1393 01:38:26,279 --> 01:38:29,760 step back and go, hey, what if it were me? What if 1394 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,720 it were you thinking, Oh, I got that back lava for tomorrow, 1395 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:38,000 and then it's gone. It's gone. I go buy more. I know, 1396 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,600 but you can't in that moment, Like she's got to get to work, 1397 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,960 so there's no way at six o'clock in the morning to replace the back 1398 01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:47,359 lava. And so like if you eat the last of something and then come 1399 01:38:47,399 --> 01:38:51,920 back go hey, hey, hey, I replaced it, I'm a hero. 1400 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:58,079 No you're not. You're a zero. Because it's only in the moment. 1401 01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:01,560 And the bigger thing is she feels like you're not thinking of her. 1402 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,560 That's what this Yeah, that's what's about. That's what it's about. So 1403 01:39:05,039 --> 01:39:09,439 here would be my suggestion to you. I feel terrible. No, I 1404 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:14,239 would say nothing about it. I would say very very little, simply, 1405 01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:18,159 um, you know what, I'm sorry. I had to feel kind of 1406 01:39:18,319 --> 01:39:23,760 shitty that I that you would think I didn't think of you. I would 1407 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,479 like to say it's an honest mistake, but I just know I'm sorry. 1408 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,039 And I wouldn't even give an explace like, well, I thought it was 1409 01:39:30,079 --> 01:39:35,239 cooked diagonally your haf and I wouldn't even go into that. I would when 1410 01:39:35,279 --> 01:39:39,920 I was married and it didn't work. Because you're like over explaining. I'm 1411 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,439 finding that is that what man's planning is, Billy uh. No, man's 1412 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,800 planning is like usually when you go, well, a little lady, let 1413 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,279 me tell you, well, when you're driving a car, you're starting to 1414 01:39:48,319 --> 01:39:50,479 hear a thumb thumb thumb, you might want to pull over to the side 1415 01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,800 of the road, and I keep going because you fucking blew a tire, 1416 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,399 bitch. You know, well, maybe that's exactly how it. So. 1417 01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,640 I was kind of dance planning. No, you weren't even dance planning. 1418 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,079 You were doing what every human being would do. I didn't do it here. 1419 01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:10,000 It's what I was thinking. What I'm saying to you is your wife 1420 01:40:10,039 --> 01:40:13,760 doesn't want to hear that. I don't think I don't think your wife wants 1421 01:40:15,279 --> 01:40:17,239 You'll know if she kind of said, but your wife doesn't want to hear 1422 01:40:17,279 --> 01:40:21,680 the excuse, it's an excuse in her mind. The way you're telling the 1423 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:28,520 story is she's feeling like you're not in tune. You you just once again, 1424 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,239 here it comes garbage disposal Dan, right, Not that that's what she's 1425 01:40:32,279 --> 01:40:35,880 calling you, but she just feels like, like, you know, come 1426 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,600 on, man. So if i'm you, I go get a piece of 1427 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,079 back lava. But I don't tell her I got a piece of back lava 1428 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,600 and I leave it in the little pastry box. And I don't know where 1429 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,319 you can get back lava. Maybe they have it at a Wegman's. I'm 1430 01:40:49,359 --> 01:40:55,000 not sure because that's a specialty dessert. Yeah. I actually looked up some 1431 01:40:55,079 --> 01:40:58,079 places. You did. Yeah, smart, Yeah, you find you get 1432 01:40:58,079 --> 01:41:00,359 a piece of bak leva, you leave it in the box, You just 1433 01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,359 put it in the fridge and you can even put a post a note on 1434 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:06,960 there. Very sorry, and that's it. Like I'm just saying, like 1435 01:41:08,039 --> 01:41:13,840 the less a gesture without dude, Like here's where jestures get shitty. Fellas 1436 01:41:14,119 --> 01:41:18,159 to get shitty with. Hey, got you that piece of but I'm really 1437 01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:20,680 sorry it was cut damp. No, no, no no. Put it 1438 01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,920 in the fridge, put a little note I'm sorry, and that's it, 1439 01:41:25,039 --> 01:41:27,600 and go back your day, go do whatever you would do at home. 1440 01:41:28,039 --> 01:41:31,279 And then when you see her, maybe you know, put your arm around 1441 01:41:31,319 --> 01:41:33,640 her or give her a hog and say, grab her, pull her clothes 1442 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:38,880 without, you know, not forcefully, great bitch, guirl, just grab 1443 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:43,680 her and just say I heard you this morning, and you know what, 1444 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,319 I'm really sorry. You must feel like I didn't even think of you, 1445 01:41:46,039 --> 01:41:49,840 and I'm sorry. End it. Don't say any more than that. And 1446 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,439 if she goes, well, you know, then what that does is it 1447 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,880 opens uping well, you know, maybe I did whatever, but it does 1448 01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,039 feel like you do and blah blah blah blah blah and this and that and 1449 01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:03,800 by and I wouldn't still go into my It was cut diagonally. And you 1450 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:08,159 know what I'm saying, you know, because I have done that. But 1451 01:42:08,319 --> 01:42:12,039 it's too much. It's too much. I'm telling you, man, the 1452 01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:15,039 less said, the better, and it'll just go away. And then it's 1453 01:42:15,079 --> 01:42:19,119 like, holy shit, what a fucking dude, you know what people think 1454 01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:23,800 when when people the people who speak less in the room, A lot of 1455 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:28,359 people always think they're smarter than and it will cease. People get uncomfortable sometimes 1456 01:42:28,399 --> 01:42:30,159 when there's this silence and they'll try to fill it and they'll talk and they'll 1457 01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:34,600 talk and they'll talk. When the person who talks least and actually listens more 1458 01:42:35,319 --> 01:42:39,600 is the one that people start to go, what what's going on here? 1459 01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,600 What do they know that? I don't know? How come there? So 1460 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,600 this? They don't like pick on an interview with Steve Jobs or Elon Musk, 1461 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:46,680 they say, like to ask a question, they answer it, and 1462 01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,000 they just sit there wait for the answer, right because and then they try 1463 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,359 to fill more and it's like no, just just sit there and stare back 1464 01:42:53,359 --> 01:42:56,239 out. Who gives a shit? Right, I mean, you know, 1465 01:42:56,399 --> 01:42:59,760 answer it. But I'm saying, like with your wife, to go into 1466 01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:05,600 all that explanation just becomes justification for why you're a heel. You know what 1467 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,079 I'm saying, Well, at least I think that's the way she hear. 1468 01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:12,359 It's a justification for why you're a heel. All right, Like a guy 1469 01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,319 would rather know that you're not a complete moron and you did this because you 1470 01:43:16,399 --> 01:43:19,279 didn't add that make sense, got it? That's not what it's not to 1471 01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:23,079 make sense to her. What doesn't make sense is you didn't think of her, 1472 01:43:24,279 --> 01:43:26,199 like if you're you know what I'm saying, like if she ain't the 1473 01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:29,159 last piece of back lava, and you're like, God damn me, I 1474 01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:31,039 would really looking forward to that. Oh it's cut on an angle. I 1475 01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:34,640 thought you had yours. Oh, all right, makes sense, and you're 1476 01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,880 on with your day. It's not that she didn't think of you because you 1477 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,560 didn't care. All you give a ship? Can you shove that in your 1478 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,199 face? And you can't, right, And that's it. It's over that. 1479 01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,920 I think that's sort of the difference between men and women a little bit. 1480 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,680 I think it's more about there are feelings tied to this. This isn't 1481 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:55,439 about the back lava. This is about the fact that Dan never fucking thinks 1482 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,600 of me, and I live here too, and I made him dinner, 1483 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,479 and you know not that she yells like that, she doesn't know I do 1484 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:08,359 think of her offend. You do not need to justify me. I've seen 1485 01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:12,640 it. I understand it, and she probably does as well. It could 1486 01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,920 have been as a bad moment. But all I'm saying is, no matter 1487 01:44:15,079 --> 01:44:19,439 what it is, you know what the reason was in your mind. It 1488 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:24,720 was a misunderstanding. Don't explain it, buy that thing, put it in 1489 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,880 a box, Put the little thing, and then when you see her and 1490 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,720 don't even tell her it's there, let her discover it. Let her discover 1491 01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,039 it. Oh yeah, I thought that would be nice. I know it's 1492 01:44:32,079 --> 01:44:35,000 not when you wanted it. You're probably looking forward to it today, but 1493 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:41,600 you know, okay, I would be my suggestive. Okay, try and 1494 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:43,560 let me know if it works, and I'm going to try it my next 1495 01:44:44,399 --> 01:44:47,720 relationship because I could give it. I didn't know when I was doing it. 1496 01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,560 I didn't want you to know. Like I was saying, I'm an 1497 01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,279 expert, but I get I don't know what it is. Lately. I've 1498 01:44:55,319 --> 01:44:58,840 only thought of this lately. The less said, the better. You don't 1499 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,720 need to justify everything to everybody, because all that does a lot of times 1500 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,079 take it away from even your wife, is gives people the power to go, 1501 01:45:06,199 --> 01:45:10,079 Wow, you know they're gonna do this and this and this and baa, 1502 01:45:10,399 --> 01:45:12,920 like they feel like they're so important that they're going to do all these 1503 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,800 things with their time and they don't want me around when simply it's just like 1504 01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:23,239 it's it's not a good time, or today doesn't work, I don't need 1505 01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:25,520 to go. Well, you know, I have to meet my kids and 1506 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,560 I got to get over there and blah blah blah, and you know, 1507 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,000 you're really just it's an inconvenience that that sounds horrible? How about it? 1508 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,520 To spare everybody's feelings and to even save your own time? Who wants to 1509 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:39,840 be fucking typing all this? I'm a god damn keyboarding whatever the fuck you're 1510 01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:44,720 sending your message on or talking? No what he wants to less, get 1511 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,880 right to the point. Today's not a good day the head. Yeah, 1512 01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:51,800 today's not a good day. That's it. Sorry, God, No cool. 1513 01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,680 Maybe I should have been a life coach. See what happens? Yeah, 1514 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,479 I know that. Well, I think if I think it's a cute 1515 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,159 thing, like to leave the back lava wouldn't. But it can't be grandly 1516 01:46:02,279 --> 01:46:05,560 presented. You know, where do you come in and go, oh god, 1517 01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:10,760 here's the bay hero And then he opened it up. He's like it's 1518 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,359 going look at this back lava. Oh my god? Can you picture that 1519 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:19,159 in your mouth? Just mama, every taste bud exploding. Just put it 1520 01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:23,039 in there and check your mount and see what happens. You know what's gonna 1521 01:46:23,039 --> 01:46:26,640 happen. The next thing in her mouth? Maybe a beast of Danny. 1522 01:46:28,119 --> 01:46:32,159 We'll see. Oh yeah, yeah, all right enough baby gronk Oh. 1523 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,840 I love the name. Not yeah. I mean, this is an odd 1524 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,800 thing to me, because the kid's now ten years old. Allegedly. I 1525 01:46:40,119 --> 01:46:43,479 don't know where the truth lies in any of this stuff. Um, the 1526 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,760 kid never looks happy. He's always kind of got this dopey look on his 1527 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,880 face. Gonna uh, he's a big kid, I guess for ten. 1528 01:46:50,359 --> 01:46:55,439 I don't know if he's a football phenomenon or not. It's I think it's 1529 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,159 kind of hard to tell at that age, can't tell. Um. Allegedly 1530 01:46:59,319 --> 01:47:02,159 he's minute to different schools. Now it's LSU because he went down there and 1531 01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:09,640 the girl from LSU who's the gymnast, took him on a tour and but 1532 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,039 the kid hardly talks. She hugged him. I don't know his parent is. 1533 01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:16,039 I think his name is. His last name is Sam Miguel. It 1534 01:47:16,119 --> 01:47:23,039 might be Michael Sam Miguel, Oh Madden Madden Maguel and his first name is 1535 01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:26,479 Madden. Yeah, Madden, like John Madden. Yes, m A D 1536 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,039 D. E. Madden. And then with a program since he was a 1537 01:47:30,079 --> 01:47:34,680 sperm. Well, his dad is saying that I'm trying his dad to the 1538 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:41,199 athletic I think said he's on a diet. He eats very healthy trains five 1539 01:47:41,279 --> 01:47:45,640 or six days a week. But it's not about necessarily getting to be a 1540 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:50,800 pro. It's about making use of these nil deals now, right, getting 1541 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:55,439 these endorsements now. And his parents put a lot of this stuff up on 1542 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,640 social media. But it's him, Like he met Shack, he's been on 1543 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,560 the Texans bench. I saw some videos. Yeah, he did a whole 1544 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:11,800 viral thing with Olivia Dunne, who is h the woman from LSU. Yeah, 1545 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,760 he's just he's like this, this little guy. He's got his arm 1546 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,600 around her. I mean, yeah, Olivia done. And then I guess 1547 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:29,159 the thing is, I've read several accounts of ex football players on Twitter today 1548 01:48:29,279 --> 01:48:34,119 saying it's really about your DNA and other than being the quarterback, it's really 1549 01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:38,039 about how big you are and how strong you are and how fast you are, 1550 01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:42,000 and you can't teach those things. And at his age, it's still 1551 01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:45,479 way too early to tell you could. You could eat the best vegetables and 1552 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:46,119 all this other stuff. But at the end of the day, if you 1553 01:48:46,199 --> 01:48:50,560 don't have the DNA to do it, it's it odds. Art's not going 1554 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:55,079 to happen. Basketball, baseball, gymnastics, a lot of those sports. 1555 01:48:55,399 --> 01:48:58,439 You might be able to do that and go further, and even then it's 1556 01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,439 still a crapshoot. Sure it is. But in football it's like it's all 1557 01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:05,119 about like size, striking speed, right, And I'm thinking of a number 1558 01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:11,319 of guys who didn't play until later in life and went on to have pretty 1559 01:49:11,399 --> 01:49:15,319 solid careers. Oh yeah, and you even look at one guy who played 1560 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,399 lacrosse in college, yeah, Chris Hogan. Yeah, and then went to 1561 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,520 the Bills. Yeah, and then won Super Bowls with the Patriots and was 1562 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:25,560 a key in those Super Bowls. He was you know, Antonio Brown. 1563 01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,600 I'm sorry, yeah, no, No, Antonio Gates. He played tight 1564 01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:33,479 end for the Chargers. He didn't play college football, played college basketball, 1565 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,960 right, but they made him a tight end. The kid who's the other 1566 01:49:38,079 --> 01:49:41,840 kid, kid out of Kennisius ended up playing for the Chiefs for a while. 1567 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,840 I think it was a tight end too, So I mean it just 1568 01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:47,479 it's it's really yes, yes, yes, I remember that kid. Uh 1569 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,880 yeah, it's it is one of these things where football is a sport that 1570 01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:57,960 you can play later in life pick up. Yeah, I'm saying playing sports 1571 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,800 at any age, but you only play impact sports. I don't know what'll 1572 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,359 happen with this kid. I don't know. It could be a big bust. 1573 01:50:04,399 --> 01:50:08,039 But boy, that's a lot of pressure. I always just think of 1574 01:50:08,119 --> 01:50:11,560 like the psychological aspects of it. Yeah, like if all of a sudden, 1575 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:15,560 you're you're with Olivia don who's like the hottest social media star right now 1576 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:19,399 cashing in. She's making millions of dollars in social media. She's a great 1577 01:50:19,399 --> 01:50:24,479 gymnast, she's very pretty. She's at you know, big university. What 1578 01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,399 if you don't get there, Yeah, you know, then we look back 1579 01:50:27,399 --> 01:50:30,079 and go where are they now? And how does that feel when you open 1580 01:50:30,199 --> 01:50:31,640 up the internet and you see you at the bottom of the page? How 1581 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,680 you go to the bottom of an article and when you get to the bottom 1582 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:39,840 of the article, it's like, uh, you know, NFL star reveals 1583 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,520 his ten essentials, including her. Where are they now? Find out what 1584 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,640 whatever happened to? Yeah? Like the sponsored content A Shock Reunion. Yeah, 1585 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,159 here it is. Kate Goslin surprises X John by showing up to a 1586 01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:55,640 strange kid's graduation. You know, it's like, okay, it's like all 1587 01:50:55,680 --> 01:51:00,399 this Yeah yeah, yeah yeah John, and say, my oldest son. 1588 01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:02,479 He used to love to watch it because he always wanted to have all those 1589 01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:04,680 kind of kids around him. Thought it would be so cool to have a 1590 01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:09,600 house full of kids like that. Yeah, I can imagine it, but 1591 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,000 yeah, I mean, yeah, I worry about this kid. Like. 1592 01:51:12,039 --> 01:51:14,720 There's a story about Todd Mornno, which is another we mentioned thirty for thirty 1593 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,920 with OJ Earlier. There was another thirty for thirty about Todd and his father, 1594 01:51:18,119 --> 01:51:21,840 Marv, and Todd was on a program since he was a little kid, 1595 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:25,800 never touched the twinkie, all this other stuff, and his father tells 1596 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,840 him, you're not playing the New York Giants. You're not playing the New 1597 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,920 York Giants. Because he would try to get him psyched up for a game. 1598 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,880 He's like, hey, don't take it too seriously. It's not like 1599 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,199 you're playing the Giants. You know, you're just playing a high school game. 1600 01:51:34,359 --> 01:51:36,640 Even though he was kind of nuts, he was taking it away too 1601 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:40,680 seriously, if he had a bad game, he would make him walk home, 1602 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,560 and so Mark and so Todd would run home because I could run. 1603 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,720 I could I could run home. I don't care. And so like they'd 1604 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,079 had these battles back and forth. He still refers to his father, and 1605 01:51:48,199 --> 01:51:50,640 his sister does too. By his first day, and they don't call him 1606 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:54,319 Dad. They call him Marv. Right, why I call my mom Marge? 1607 01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,399 Okay, but like they call him Marv, like to the camera, 1608 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,840 you know, And like at a young age, they were massagely his hamstrings 1609 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,920 in the crib so that he'd be more athletic because Marve, I guess was 1610 01:52:04,199 --> 01:52:08,000 stretch out. He had a chance to play with the Raiders and he got 1611 01:52:08,119 --> 01:52:12,239 hurt. So he wanted to live his life vicariously through Todd. Todd leaves 1612 01:52:12,399 --> 01:52:15,760 USC a year early to go. He's the first player I think ever selected 1613 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:17,800 what came out as a sophomore. He had his three years out of high 1614 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,119 school and so he was he's a red shirt sophomore. So they're like, 1615 01:52:21,159 --> 01:52:24,239 okay, you could go in the draft. He goes in the draft. 1616 01:52:24,399 --> 01:52:28,079 He gets drafted by the Raiders and at one point they tell he beats the 1617 01:52:28,119 --> 01:52:30,359 New York Giants. And after he beats the Giants, that was it. 1618 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,880 I don't have to do anything. And he gets to the drugs, yeah 1619 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,720 and all his other stuff. Good game. Yeah he was. He would 1620 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,319 have been. He could he could have been. He was up and down, 1621 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,159 but he with right coaching, I think he could have been. He 1622 01:52:42,199 --> 01:52:44,840 could have been a star. I mean the father did, I mean it 1623 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,399 all worked, Yeah, it all worked, but in all backfired. Right. 1624 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:53,079 He can't put your will on somebody exactly like my god, he usually 1625 01:52:53,159 --> 01:52:55,000 just doesn't always work. So I talked to a guy. I know, 1626 01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:58,399 a guy in Texas whose son they told him, any look, if if 1627 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,359 he wants to play varsity ball, yeah, you gotta get him into a 1628 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:05,479 travel league. Yeah you know how old he was six eight. He doesn't 1629 01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,199 even play baseball anymore. He's sixteen. Night runs track. It's like, 1630 01:53:09,279 --> 01:53:13,199 so this costs money. This is a little league. When travel leagues, 1631 01:53:13,319 --> 01:53:17,960 those travel leagues. So for baseball, right locally baseball, there's a program 1632 01:53:18,079 --> 01:53:23,640 here in town, and it costs about three grand to get on the team. 1633 01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,279 Sort of costs yeah, plus the hotels, plus for all the travel 1634 01:53:29,359 --> 01:53:32,079 stuff. And you're not even necessarily playing the best kids get to play. 1635 01:53:32,279 --> 01:53:35,960 Yeah, it's all that athletic ability, and then the prayers starts streaming, 1636 01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,640 and then it just becomes a night and then the kids people who with baseball. 1637 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:44,119 It's interesting because there's a lot of programs that are a little kind of 1638 01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,319 um on the downlow. I guess I don't know how many. I think 1639 01:53:48,399 --> 01:53:50,960 people do know of them, but you got to sort of seek them out. 1640 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:57,479 And they cost. I mean there's thousands, maybe maybe tens of thousands, 1641 01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,600 possibly hundreds of thousands, but definitely tens of thousands of dollars being spent 1642 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,720 on kids who are never going to play in college or never going to get 1643 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:10,319 to a minor league contract. But hey, you know what the thing is, 1644 01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:13,800 I would say, if the kid wants to do it, and you 1645 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,359 have the means, your job as a parent is to provide opportunities as much 1646 01:54:17,399 --> 01:54:21,640 as possible, right, And I always think, like again now looking back 1647 01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:26,319 and not having any of my kids to live with me. So people who 1648 01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,439 go, Okay, great, good job saying it's not an asshole, huh, 1649 01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,000 But I think that it's effort. I think, especially when your kids 1650 01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:34,840 are little, it's effort. That's all they know. You know, the 1651 01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:40,399 parent that could be the brightest, smartest, richest, but doesn't do anything 1652 01:54:40,439 --> 01:54:43,960 with the kid, doesn't it doesn't mean shit to the kid. But the 1653 01:54:44,039 --> 01:54:47,239 parent that maybe doesn't have the highest education of the most money, but gets 1654 01:54:47,319 --> 01:54:49,680 down on the floor and plays with you, or goes out and throws the 1655 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:54,359 ball or fishes, or puts an effort but tries to have a party, 1656 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,920 build a ten fort with the kid. It's effort, That's all it really 1657 01:54:58,079 --> 01:55:01,439 is. It's it's effort and that comes to parenting. And I just think 1658 01:55:03,239 --> 01:55:09,159 that is also effort money. But sometimes it can be lost. Yeah, 1659 01:55:09,359 --> 01:55:12,479 right, you start to take it for granted. It was one of the 1660 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:14,880 greatest I will say this. This is well, we'll end it here. 1661 01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,920 When I put one of my kids in a private school and we had looked 1662 01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,800 at all the private schools in the area, and he's a break guy got 1663 01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:27,880 into all of them. And this is one that there was some hesitation. 1664 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:33,399 I don't know why exactly. Guy kind of do I guess from his uh, 1665 01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:38,279 mom that was kind of wary of the school, and with reason there 1666 01:55:38,479 --> 01:55:42,319 was There were reasons. There were other people she knew have had children in 1667 01:55:42,399 --> 01:55:46,159 the school, and some of the reports that came back of activities that kids 1668 01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:53,319 would get into. I'll call them extracurricular outside of school. Not the best. 1669 01:55:53,439 --> 01:55:59,680 Right, So when we went to this school, Uh, the one 1670 01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,920 thing that I think kind of really grabbed her was I always said that, 1671 01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:08,880 you know, critical thinking and writing are really two things that you need in 1672 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:13,119 this world. Critical thinking maybe more than writing now, but writing, you 1673 01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:15,760 know, AI is kind of helping. But a I could you know you 1674 01:56:15,079 --> 01:56:18,000 want to be able to even look at that and go all right, eliminate 1675 01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:21,319 this and I'll take this, and here's what's value of what AI came up 1676 01:56:21,359 --> 01:56:28,079 with or whatever if you in chet GPT. But the guy who's showing us 1677 01:56:28,119 --> 01:56:32,359 around sat us all down and looked at him and said, do you realize 1678 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:41,760 how much your parents love you and care about you because they are trying to 1679 01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:48,039 give you the opportunity to get the absolute best education at your age that you 1680 01:56:48,119 --> 01:56:55,119 can get. And I was like, good, because I say it it's 1681 01:56:55,119 --> 01:56:58,600 like, you know, it's dad talking. Here we go again, Here 1682 01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,640 we go again, don't want want but this is somebody else And I think 1683 01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,680 sometimes you know, we don't you know if your parents are paying three thousand 1684 01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,800 dollars for you to go to a baseball program and you're not doing well. 1685 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,920 You're mad at everybody, but you're not realizing there's a lot of money. 1686 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,039 They could done a lot of other things for you or your siblings or anybody 1687 01:57:15,239 --> 01:57:20,840 or themselves with that money. That is effort. But I think I'm rambling 1688 01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:25,039 nuts, you know what I'm saying. I get that. So to have 1689 01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:29,720 somebody else say, hey man, you know take realize what this is. 1690 01:57:30,399 --> 01:57:34,000 Realize what it is. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, 1691 01:57:34,039 --> 01:57:41,640 but that's it. Sorry. At least something else that tastes like never mind. 1692 01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:46,000 I was just a pulling oh for Dan Barillo, for O. J. 1693 01:57:46,199 --> 01:57:51,600 Simpson, But for Dan Barillo. I'm Phil Moran, will see you 1694 01:57:51,680 --> 01:58:00,119 tomorrow for you w