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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and

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David Harsani. This is just a
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hearing from you. Molly. Last
night, how are you, by the

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way, I'm doing great. How
are you doing, David? I'm doing

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okay. Last night we had the
Michigan primaries. Which person would you love?

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Which party would you like to discuss? First? Let's go Biden Democrats.

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I actually think that was more interesting
in many ways. So Biden went

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I think eighty percent of the vote
or something around there, so basically ran

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away with it as an incombent president
or as president should. But there were

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around one hundred over one hundred thousand
non committed votes, which was like a

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protest vote against Joe Biden's handling of
the Gaza Israel situation. There are many

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Arab Americans in Michigan, especially in
the suburbs of Detroit and Dearborn, places

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like that, and I crunch some
of these numbers. I think one hundred

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thousand is actually pretty significant number.
I think it was thirteen percent of the

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vote that you know, thirteen percent
is a relatively large number on just a

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one issue kind of protest vote,
I think. And the thing was that

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Joe Biden has been sending emissaries out
there from the White House for like maybe

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over a month, kind of like
appeasing and playcating what I would call pro

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Hamas people for the most part,
not all, but some, And it

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didn't seem to make much of a
difference. And I think it actually matters

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that one hundred thousand could be if
you projected out into an election, or

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even if you depress the vote in
Michigan, that could be big trouble for

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Joe Biden. Do you agree with
that? I don't know. I was

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trying to think about it. I
was looking at how when Obama ran for

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reelection, I think about ten percent
of his party voted non committed, So

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this isn't that much bigger. But
as you note, Michigan's can be a

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swing state, and with all of
the other problems that Biden is having in

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that, you know a lot of
his supporters who thought that voting for him

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would make things easier in the country
and instead things have gotten much worse.

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That you know that I have nothing
to do with foreign policy, and you

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combind these people, it could be
a real problem for him in Michigan.

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And that's what the polling has suggested
when you do a head to head matchup.

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So I saw Paul from Harvard something
else that showed that the vast majority

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of the people are still basically pro
Israel and not you know, Prohamas,

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and that you know, I think
sixty seven percent believe that Hamas should have

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to return all the hostages and you
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But it's very I think it's important
to point out that no matter what

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Biden does or how he offends let's
say, Jewish voters who still care and

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stuff like that, California, New
York, Florida, these places are not

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going to be affected enough to have
any kind of real It's not going to

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change any kind of outcome. But
Michigan it could. Joe Biden won Michigan

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two point eight million to two point
six million in twenty twenty. That is

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pretty close he wanted in twenty sixteen. I believe, so Trump wanted,

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and Trump wanted in twenty sixteen.
So I'm just saying, like even a

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sort of a depressing of enthusiasm or
something like that could definitely matter considering what

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you just said. They hold all
the other stuff that makes him so unpopular.

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Just even having to work hard in
Michigan after winning it in twenty twenty

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means that you don't get to spend
resources elsewhere, and so it's not great.

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The night was not great for Democrats. No, yeah, even with

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an eighty percent win. I don't
know who the was it, Dean Phillips

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still running, Yeah, but he
didn't really get much of the vote.

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It seemed like everyone who did the
protest vote went for the what is it

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uncommitted? Uncommitted? Yeah, uncommitted. I'm doing a piece on this.

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Some of the people that the White
House has spoken to there to try to

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placate our outright pro hamas terrorists,
it would be like sending I was trying

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to come up with an analogy,
and this doesn't really work. I'll tell

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you in a second. But it's
like sending out people to Borough Park in

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Brooklyn and finding pro Putin Russians and
then saying, as John Kirby did yesterday,

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oh, we're we're going to we're
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app is your concerns about this.
I can't even think about Russian immigrants not

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being pretty pro American and like supporting
terrorists or anything like that. But I'm

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just saying this would be tantamount to
that, and yet the media doesn't even

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cover it like that at all,
you know what I mean? On that

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note, can we just briefly talk
about the man who self immolated in front

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of the Holocaust Museum. So I'm
just very concerned that this was an air

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He was in the Air Force,
right, and he did this in uniform,

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which is not even supposed to do
anything political in a uniform. Obviously

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not mentally well in that he killed
himself with I think a child or children

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at home. But it just seems
concerning that he was doing a lot of

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political activity of the Prohamas variety and
had some anti Semitic stuff on his social

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media. He was an Antifa enthusiast, and he was at the NSA.

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I know, like, what kind
of metting are we doing for these like?

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It could have been much worse than
just a self emilation in front of

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the cost Museum. As someone pointed
out to me, the line between lighting

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yourself on fire and blowing yourself up
is not that you know, dense or

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thick, right. So, but
if this was some kind of white supremacist

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or something, we would be knee
deep in a national conversation on how dangerous

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it is and how they've infiltrated the
air Force and how they've infiltrated the NSSA.

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And you know, but does anyone
Is anyone even talking about it in

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that way? No? And then
remember the Iranian affiliated person who was at

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the Department of Defense, and I
believe is still there, and nobody really

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cares about any of this. Yeah, I forget her name, but she

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wrote a letter that we know exists
because of a third party founded on a

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laptop, where she promised the Iranian
of the Islamic State that she would do

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everything she can to help them.
And she sits in the Pentagon. And

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there were three of these people and
they worked for Rob Malli. You know

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before they had been part of the
negotiation team for the United States with yourn

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which is confusing, I think.
And do you know, we still don't

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know what Rob Malle did. We
still don't know he is under investigation.

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No one seems to care. He's
teaching in Yale or Princeton or somewhere.

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You know, I'm sure I have
no doubt that whatever investigation has done,

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that he will be found to have
done nothing wrong whatsoever and will be promoted.

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And you know, as per usual, people forget this. Yeah,

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oh sorry, no, no,
please, people forget that. Rob Malley

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tried to actually met with Hamas twice. The first time he met with Hamas

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leadership in Obama's name, Obama like
threw him off the uh, you know,

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his advisory team or whatever. But
then he brought him back and he

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met with Hamas again, and Hamas
said, we hear you, we hear

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that Obama cares more about what we
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these same people are in the di
Biden administration, So anyone's surprised about how

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they're acting. I mean, you
know, anyway, you want to talk

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about Trump. Yeah, so Trump
did very well. What was the final

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percentage in Michigan? Impressive? I
forget what it was right off, but

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it was like big right, yeah, I should have had this in front.

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I should have had this in front. But yeah, I mean you

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want he won handily. It's not
it's not really a race anymore. And

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I'm confused about why. I mean, I'm not really confused that much about

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why Nicky Haley is in it or
why people would run again, you know,

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knowing that they were going to lose, But I am confused why we

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still have to pretend that there's any
kind of race going on as far as

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journalism goes. Yeah, I think
it's all very interesting. I very strongly

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believe that if you want to run, you have the right to run,

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and I get angry when people act
like you have to drop out. If

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Nicki Haley wants to lose all fifty
coxes and primaries, that's her right as

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an American to do that. But
it does seem that people who are covering

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politics should think what is the goal
here? And I think there are a

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few different goals she might have,
and it's worth thinking about each of them.

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So one which I kind of heard
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this Sunday was this idea that by
running and placing even a very distant second

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behind Trump in the delegate count,
that sets her up to be the party's

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nominee in four years. That was
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various people on Fox News Sunday.
Another idea, which is which is what

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I've talked about before, is that
she's really just running for a third party

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no labels run, Like if she
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this would kind of be the way
to do it. And she's early on

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she was saying things against Biden.
Now she's turned into like a extremely deranged,

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not deranged, but like obsessed anti
Trumpist type candidate, and so that

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could be setting herself up for a
third party. And then another thing that

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some people theorize is that she's just
trying to hurt Trump and is hoping for

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a plumb cabinet position in a second
Biden term. But you see how like

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these things can't all be true,
Like she can't be trying to have a

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future in the Republican Party and trying
to run for No Labels or trying to

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have a future in the Republican Party
and vying for a cabinet position in a

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second Biden administration. And as each
primary goes on, it seems like it's

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not like horrific numbers. She set
a goal for herself in the South Carolina

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primary that she would exceed the percentage
she got in New Hampshire and she'd gotten

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around forty percent in New Hampshire,
so she needed to do better than that,

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and she failed to do that.
But she God blessed that woman's self

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confidence. She took that failure and
turned it right around into a victory speech

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about how actually, you know,
thirty nine percent isn't so bad, and

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how she's going to keep going because
she's a woman of her word, and

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her word is that she's going to
go and tell the bitter end or something.

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So it's like that meme of the
guy with the close shot of him

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celebrating winning the race. He's hugging
the woman, he's got the champagne,

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and then they when you scan out, you know, he's like in fourth

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place or whatever. But I did
notice. I think it was in the

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Why had it here? Somewhere the
Washington Post had a poll that they'd done

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or something. Maybe it wasn't the
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There was. There were exit polls
or voter analysis polls that some left

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wing media organization had done, and
it showed that for self identified Republicans in

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South Carolina, Trump got like eighty
percent of that vote for independence. People

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were identified as independent, I think
Nikki Hayley did much better. There was

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some other group, and then they
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the Republican primary were Democrats self identified
Democrats, so there was too small of

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a number for them to analyze who
they voted for. Well, I think

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probably the five percent of voters who
were Democrat were you know, reasonably speaking,

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Nicky Hayley voters, which means that
a not you know, insignificant,

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probably large single digits of her vote
total was Democrat. So if you remove

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that, that means that Trump,
you know, Trump as it stood,

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was like sixty forty, but if
it's more like sixty seven thirty three or

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something like that among actual Republicans,
that makes it look a little less good

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for her. And I think she's
like a good vehicle for the anti Trumpist

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vote in Republican primaries, whether you
can come in as a republic as a

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Democrat to vote in the Republican primaries, or whether you are a Republican.

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But I also kind of get the
feeling that New Hampshire and South Carolina were

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probably the high watermarks there, both
because she had immense donor support in both

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of those, enabling ballot harvesting type
operations, particularly in South Carolina, which

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she put a lot into, and
the Cochs have withdrawn there back in correctly.

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Yeah, she's still getting a lot
of Democrat support, avert more overt

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Democrat than the Cokes. But the
Cochs said that they were pulling out,

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and that's a big army of people
who are paid to do what they say.

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So I don't think that's going to
help her much in the future.

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But she she runs the risk.
I said this, He said this this

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week, that she runs the risk
as she continues to run of being viewed

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as a as a Liz Cheney type
character. And I tweeted out this thing

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this hit where I said that,
and I think like one hundred percent of

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the comments were telling me that I
was an idiot because she has been a

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Liz Cheney character for many months now. So you know, yeah, I

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think that that's I think you're right, she will be viewed that way.

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I think it's a little harsh on
her to say she is that already in

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my view, I think she wants
to I don't think she wants to have

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that. I don't know. This
is my theory, right, I don't

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think she wants to be in no
Labels candidate. I don't think she wants

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to be in the Biden administration.
I do think she wants to differentiate herself

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enough from Trump that, you know, if Trump fails or if he loses,

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or whatever happens in twenty twenty eight, she can be that candidate who

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said she stood up, you know, to Trump, this is the right

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way to go. But if she
takes it too far, I think that

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she'll people will remember it enough,
especially people like Trump, which is a

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lot of Republican primary voters, that
she would have a chance. So I

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don't know. I mean, maybe
she just wants to be on TV.

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I don't know what these people want. History, economics, the great works

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of literature, the meaning of the
US Constitution. Did you study these things

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in school? Probably not, or
if you're like me, maybe it's just

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time for a refresher even if you
did study them. If you listen to

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this podcast, you know I talk
all the time. I don't know that

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I actually studied these things with the
best content in the first place. Time

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and technology have changed a lot of
things. They have not changed basic fundamental

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truths about the world and our place
in it. That's why I am genuinely

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so excited that Hillsdale College is offering
more than forty free online courses in the

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most important and enduring subject You can
learn about the works of C. S.

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Lewis, the stories in the Book
of Genesis, the meaning of the

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Constitution, the rise and fall of
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Yeah. I do think that maybe
the you know, there's like a whole

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media apparatus that tries to create this
like false reality where Republicans are represented by

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Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes and David
French and Liz Cheney. And so if

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they have like four slots on their
Sunday show, they'll have three crazy leftist

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Democrats and then they'll balance it out
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And so people actually don't like those
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but they're not they aren't much of
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so maybe they are thinking could refresh
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although I honestly think Liz Cheney is
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Haley, so I'm not even sure
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Liz Cheney has truly remarkable hatred for
one man that I don't think think he

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has think he's nicky, is not
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not. Obviously her own state just
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someone like Liz Cheney is just full
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is in danger. But Nikki Hally
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to sort of play what she tries
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you know, even though I don't
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it, is to say, you
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reality based person who can appeal to
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it's an age old problem. You
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before you appel to the you know, the center. I think she would

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actually do okay in the national election. I know you may disagree with that,

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but there is no appetite for her
that hasn't been from the beginning,

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So I don't know those one thing
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think she would do particularly well.
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thing that is so silly about these
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know, many months before an election. Let's say, oh, in this

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head to head match up, this
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would do better than this person who
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you get into a campaign and you
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the things Nikki Haley has done that
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worst possible sins in the history of
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gaff on slavery and stuff like that. Do you think that they would still

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treat her as kindly with those issues
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would that become the drum beat every
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her troubled racial past and all that. No, you're definitely right about that.

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And the media does also need to
gin up these races because it's for

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ratings, it's to cover something it's
not really it's kind of boring if there

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is nothing going on. The slavery
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way that had not been against her, and not because she said something stupid

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about slavery, but it's because that's
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which tells me she doesn't really understand
Republicans at all. Like Republicans don't want

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you out there defending slavery. That's
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and she bought into that, which
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But like you said, she is
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she does have some charisma in a
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that I think she could beat Joe
Biden, because I think a lot of

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people can beat Joe Biden, and
I just I don't think she would be

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terrible, though she would not be
I should not be one of my choices.

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But well, I will say one
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you on a lot of that.
But also because of her unique foreign policy

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views, which you could call like
Mitch McConnell foreign policy views, they are

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not super popular in the Republican Party, and they would also kind of help

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Joe Biden seem more rational and nuanced. So I'm not sure that would play

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out very well for her either.
It's a big reason why she's not going

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to be the Republican nominee. Her
views are like who said one of my

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friends says she's the ideal candidate for
two thousand and eight or something like that.

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ago. Can I talk about foreign
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don't think it's as important maybe as
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with you that her positioning on foreign
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think most Republicans feel or primary voters
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where I think it was a gallop
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or care about, and immigration is
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at the top, crimp crime I
think is up there, and foreign policy

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is like way on the bottom.
Like, I just don't think Americans care

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that much about it. I don't
know that their vote would hinge on your

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foreign policy position. I could be
wrong about that, that's just no.

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I agree. I don't think Americans
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like a typical complaint, but it's
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We're so important globally that we just
we have the luxury of not having

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to care about foreign policy too much. And so I think that is something

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We've seen pole after poll, year
after year that people do not prioritize foreign

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policy, which is not to say
that it's not important and that it's not

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a big reason. You know,
a lot of people talk about how much

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Trump is hated or beloved by different
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of Republicans, I do think foreign
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even how it relates to other things. So yesterday there was the Big

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Four meeting where the top two Republicans
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two Democrats in the House and Senate
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and Mitch McConnell. So it is
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Jeffries, and Chuck Schumer. And
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he's very friendly with at punch Bowl, told Mike Johnson to stop talking about

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the border because, like they really
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that's why Republican voters give such low
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The thing they care most about is
the border, and Mitch McConnell is

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telling Mike Johnson stop talking about the
border. We have to get money to

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Ukraine. Yeah, I think you're
right about how that Ukraine an issue enhanced

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beyond just being a foreign policy issue
because you see how it's prioritized. So

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if it's the border and Ukraine are
not really zero sum propositions, if you

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felt like you could do both,
but the idea that you only need to

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do one of those things and the
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that that makes especially when you see
you know, illegals murdering people and you

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know, just flooding over the border
at the same time, and Mitch McConnell's

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more concerned about what's going on in
the eastern provinces of Ukraine, you know,

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with the Russian minority there. That
that I think does matter definitely within

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publican, party politics, anything else. On Michigan. If not, I

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think we can. I just want
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I figured out twenty sixteen a little
bit better. Mark and I were teaching

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out at Hillsdale during the primary in
twenty sixteen, and when we were in

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DC, we were totally up in
the anti Trumpist hysteria. Mark was working

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at Weekly Standard and on Twitter,
everyone had figured out how to stop Donald

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Trump from winning the nomination, and
on Twitter everyone figured it out. They

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were like, we're just going to
ask every other person running to say that

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if Donald Trump is the nominee that
they won't support him, and then that

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will scare Republican voters into stopping voting
for him in the primary. It sounds

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silly now, but like it totally
made sense at the time, and so

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there was all this pressure that when
a reporter was able to get in front

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of one of the other Republican nominees, they'd be like, would you support

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Donald Trump if he were the nominee, And all of these people, I

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think more or less were like,
well, yeah, you know, if

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he were the Republican nominee, and
then everyone I don't think Trump promised that

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he would vote for the Republican nominee. Yeah, because like all the other

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people were establishment Republican a variety of
stripes, meaning like they had been brought

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up in the Republican Party and they
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Trump was kind of loudly talking about
how awful the Republican Party was while we're

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running for the nomination. But anyway, we go out to Michigan and we're

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just interviewing local people there and I
tell this woman at the grocery store about

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the plan for how to keep Donald
Trump from winning, and she's like,

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so they're going to try and get
people to say that whoever the Republican voters

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pick, they're not gonna vote for
that person. And somehow, when she

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asked the question back to me,
I was like, oh, yeah,

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that's a really idiotic plan for stopping
Donald Trump. And then the other thing

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was that everybody we met who was
voting in the Democrat Party was voting Bernie

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Sanders, and the polling had Hillary
I can't remember she was winning by six

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or winning by twenty, but she
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so it was like a twenty six
point clip. Bernie Sanders beat her

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in that Michigan primary. It was
kind of a shock. But if you

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talked to people, even you know, where we were, which was fairly

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rural Michigan, they were pretty enthusiastic
about Sanders and not Clinton. And that's

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it just was like such a helpful
trip for me in twenty sixteen, which

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was such a weird year, but
to get out and talk to people hear

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from them what they were thinking.
And getting out of that DC bubble just

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reminded me also that Twitter is not
real, does not represent normal opinion.

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That's it, normal opinions. Bad
people are nuts, that may be,

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But David, I'm not sorry.
There's reality, there's reality. Respect them

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enough to want to hear what they
think. Yeah, I don't, but

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reality is something you have to deal
with in politics, like you have to

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deal with that reality. And I
think you know they were. I remember

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seeing that picture where Trump shows up
somewhere and there's a huge enthusiastic rally,

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the kind of rally that Hillary could
never ever muster because she was just not

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charismatic enough. People didn't like her, not enough she was compelling enough people

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disliked her. And I thought to
myself, I never I never really sort

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of calculated how much I think people
didn't like her and how much people like

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Trump, et cetera. But then
they come up with a guy who's probably

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Biden is not likable either once you
get to know him right, and they've

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I think, fallen into the same
exact trap again. I just don't think

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he has he's charismatic. I don't
think he can speak to big crowds and

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get people excited. When I remember
when Obama was present, you see Obama

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bumper. This is a stupid way
to judge things, I know, but

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just anecdotal, but you so Obama
bumper stickers. Everywhere you sell. People

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have been wearing Obama shirts. People
were excited about Barack Obama. I haven't

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literally never met anyone on Earth who's
excited about Joe Biden. I know people

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are excited about Trump, I'll tell
you that. And people tell me they'll

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vote for if Trump isn't the nominee
they promised to vote for, like RFK

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or not vote or whatever. But
you don't see that with Biden at all.

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And I just I don't know.
I'm feeling like it's a little bit

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of a rerun of sixteen today.
I don't know. I saw that Joe

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Biden was on Seth Meyer's political show
that he does late at night, and

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Seth was like really trying hard to
make Joe seem likable and sentient, and

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even I was thinking back, you
know, in twenty sixteen, Donald Trump

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did appear on some of these shows
from Saturday Night Live to late night comedy

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shows, and it actually used to
be the case that Republicans would regularly appear

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on left wing corporate media and be
treated roughly but not like horrifically. And

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one of the things of fallout from
twenty sixteen is because these shows have become

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like, you know, literal vehicles
for Joe Biden's reelection campaign while shunning all

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Republican viewers and voters. Is like
they're just there's so much less influential than

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they ever used to be. Someone
was pointing out that, I think it

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was Kyl Kyle Smith, was pointing
out that there were all these left wing

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efforts to stop advertising on conservative media, so you know, major efforts to

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get advertisers to stop having ads placed
on Fox News, major efforts to have

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people stop funding any non leftist media
with advertising, and it was very successful.

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I mean, we've been subjected to
this ourselves rather famously. There was

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a foreign disinformation operation that worked with
NBC News to de platform and defund us,

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and you know, we kind of
survived and won that, but it

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was really weird to go through.
But one of the things that happened as

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a result of that is a lot
of advertisers were like, well, we

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don't want to we don't really want
to have our ads next year transactivism either,

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and so they just voluntarily stopped funding
some of the left wing outlets and

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just focused more on social media.
And so in the last couple of weeks

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we've seen major closures or layoffs at
left wing news sites, and Kyle Smith

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was suggesting that partly this was to
their own campaign to destroy any non leftist

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media. I think that's right.
I think also you look at bud Light,

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they say, you know, conservatives
can actually hurt us as well.

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Why didn't get involved in any kind
of political you know, why have our

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ads next to any of this kind
of content. I do want to say

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though, that you know, you're
right about Trump appearing on some shows,

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and obviously Republicans haven't done that.
But I think that Trump was treated that

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way because they just all thought he
was going to lose. Like he if

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they thought he had a chance of
winning, I don't think they would have

409
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humanized him or whatever in any in
any way. And just a quick last

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word on something you talk about how
how these late night shows aren't influential,

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and sometimes I forget that I'm old
and people are young and they don't.

412
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So I'll say something like, oh, he was on Johnny Carson like that

413
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that was like a big deal.
If you were on Johnny Carson, that

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meant like a ton of people were
seeing you. It mattered, you know,

415
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this platform. But no, I
have never heard anyone say, oh

416
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he was on you know set,
you know, unless it's the president.

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But I don't think that these shows
have the reach or anyone really cares very

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what we were talking about. This
is just reminding me too. Did you

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watch Shane Gillis this weekend on Saturday
Night Live. I saw the monologue and

428
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then I watched the one clip of
where he mocks that EMU Insurance ad with

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the guy, and I thought,
I I didn't love his monologue, not

430
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,759
because I think he bombed, but
I think he was too apologetic for not

431
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:09,160
making people laugh with the jokes he
made. Does that make sense? Oh

432
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,640
yeah, yeah, So that bothered
me. He should have just gone and

433
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,440
done it and walked off. You
know, I have to imagine that doing

434
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,319
a monologue is incredibly difficult in front
of an audience like that, but he

435
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:28,000
was clearly nervous. And also it
just I get a little annoyed when people

436
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,559
only go a little bit of the
way instead of whole hog, and then

437
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,079
they act like they're being so incredible. So you've seen this with Dave Chappelle

438
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,559
and Mickey Kervas, and they're like, oh, they're very brave. They're

439
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,160
making some jokes about the radical trans
insanity. The jokes are always really mild

440
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,960
and nowhere near what they should be
for the problems that we're dealing with.

441
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,319
So I just thought it was like
a little I don't know, I was

442
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,440
expecting more, but probably because I
really like Shane Gillis, and I really

443
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,960
enjoyed his stand up. This reminds
me he's like a good natured guy like

444
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,039
it. It doesn't feel like he
wants to hurt people's feelings or insult someone

445
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:05,240
or make any big statement. I
just think he thinks what he's saying is

446
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,319
funny, and I think it is
too, And so I just felt like

447
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,839
let down that he kept saying,
Oh, you're not making you laugh,

448
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,839
you know, it was almost apologetic. It's just you just can't do that.

449
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,240
So there are these two comedians that
I'm going to see here pretty soon,

450
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:24,480
and my husband loves me, and
I know he loves me because he's

451
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,519
taking me to see Chris Fleming.
Have you ever seen him? No,

452
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,799
very absurd comedy, like I'm sure
it's going to be awful, even but

453
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,039
for some reason he makes me laugh. And so we're going to see him,

454
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,279
and then we're going to see Ryan
Long. Do you know who that

455
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,880
is is? He he's like the
he has skits, like he's kind of

456
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,039
like what is it called unwoke or
whatever kind of comedian you would say,

457
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,519
yeah, kind of. He's Canadian
and I think he's really funny, and

458
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,759
so he's doing He's take, and
we were so Mark and I were getting

459
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:00,799
ready to buy tickets for his show, and said like, just FYI,

460
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,160
this is going to be taped for
a comedy special. But it's just at

461
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239
the DC Improv so it's not like
one of those big theaters or anything like

462
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,159
that. And I still am going, but I like realized I have a

463
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,840
total fear because do you ever watch
those comedy specials where they will tell the

464
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,159
joke and then they'll scan the audience
and they'll see people laughing. And I'm

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00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,159
like, oh, my mother would
be so upset with me to hear me

466
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,760
laughing or to see me laughing at
some like inappropriate jokes. I have to

467
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:37,199
like sit in the back. Hopefully. Fine, Great, let's switch.

468
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,599
I was trying to come up with
a good segue, but let's just switch

469
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:45,360
this story of media bias, something
we rarely touch on. I wouldn't even

470
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,159
say this is bias. I'd say
this is just like double standards. Right.

471
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,639
So Adam Rubinstein, who is a
you know, a guy I read

472
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:59,599
for a while, Like I know
him through social media and stuff like that.

473
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,000
I think he was at the Wall
Street Journal, then he went to

474
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:09,599
the New York Times, edit page. He was there when James Bennett was

475
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,719
that the editor's name who was fired
for running a Tom Cotton up ed about

476
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,920
where con wanted to have the National
Guard. I don't know why I'm laughing.

477
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,800
It was a good idea have the
National Guard come in for these BLM

478
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,920
riots and stuff like that. Anyway, he wrote a piece at The Atlantic

479
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:34,119
where he oh, do you want
to explain? So basically he goes through

480
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,960
what happened to him there and it's
it's quite interesting. But one of the

481
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,920
stories that made me laugh and a
lot of people honed in on, was

482
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,400
that he was there for orientation and
it sounded like some kind of insufferable kind

483
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,400
of like kumbayamaman or whatever. But
they asked him like what his favorite food

484
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,199
was or sandwich, and he said
Chick fil a spicy chicken sandwich. It

485
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,079
he verse wants to say what his
real favorite sandwiches, but they realizes it

486
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:06,679
costs nineteen dollars, so he doesn't
want to like come off poorly to his

487
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,760
colleagues, so instead he's like Chick
fil a spicy chicken sandwich. And then

488
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:19,199
the leader of this group says something
like, no, it can't be your

489
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,400
favorite, yeah, or anti gay
basically, right, that's hate chicken?

490
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,559
How could you like hate chicken?
And then and then a bunch of people

491
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:35,400
snap because snapping is what lefties do
to because we're told that other people don't

492
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,440
like to hear the sound of clapping, so if you snap, it's less

493
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,239
offensive or something. Wait, wait, we'll take a step back. You're

494
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,039
so if there's a lot of snapping
going on, that's like clapping, but

495
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:49,280
not clapping for something. Someone said, Is that what you're saying? Yes,

496
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,639
lone, he wrote, is people
started snapping their fingers in acclamation.

497
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,559
Gosh, when I was young,
the thought of working for Ye Times or

498
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,719
Washington Post, even though they were
on the left, was just the goal.

499
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,639
And then at some point, maybe
ten years ago, I'm like,

500
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I would never want to work there
in a million years. And now it

501
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:15,239
sounds like it would be something someone
it sounds like an oppressive kind of thing,

502
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,599
like okay, yeah, go on, David, He went to the

503
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,119
end. You know, we were
still talking about this story, right,

504
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:25,159
so snapping fingers and he says he
wasn't thinking about the fact that left wingers

505
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:31,159
are worried about chick fil or don't
like chick fil a and the story just

506
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,679
makes it was a good scene setter
to kind of explain how crazy left the

507
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,360
organization is. But my favorite thing
is that I read this whole piece and

508
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,360
I, by the way, very
much like Adam Rubinstein, and I think

509
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:52,119
he's, you know, a really
good writer and editor. And he worked

510
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,280
with my husband at The Weekly Standard, and my husband has very good things

511
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,280
to say about him. Seems like
a good guy. But there is this

512
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,880
part where he's talking about how he
was considered very right wing and he's also

513
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,639
very anti Trump and was at the
Weekly Standard. That alone, like that

514
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:14,480
you're considered right wing when you used
to be at the Weekly Standard, which

515
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,760
is nobody's idea of right wing,
is sad. But he says that he

516
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:24,599
starts to notice that the Republicans or
conservatives that they publish only get published when

517
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:30,519
they agree with the left. And
I was like, man, nothing gets

518
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,719
past you, does it. Adam, Like, how could you not have

519
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,599
figured that out? I mean,
he's a younger guy, but like,

520
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,320
I feel like, fourteen years old
is about a good age to figure out

521
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,719
that that's what the New York Times
does. And so I have always like

522
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,440
one of the things that just freaks
me out so much. You know how

523
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:52,199
journalists love to congratulate other journalists when
they take jobs or whatever. So sometimes

524
00:38:52,199 --> 00:39:00,320
you'll see a supposedly non leftist,
non leftist activist reporter say I'm honor to

525
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,719
announce that I am making my debut
in the New York Times, and everyone's

526
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,920
like, oh, wow, you
go, girl, and that's so amazing,

527
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
And I always want to be like, I don't consider it, like,

528
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,800
I know, you got published merely
because you probably attacked a conservative or

529
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,199
a conservative idea, So I don't
view that as something to write home about

530
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,320
or brag about. I think it's
something you should be ashamed of, like,

531
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:29,199
absolutely ashamed of. And it embarrasses
me that so many people on the

532
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,679
right in internalize a second class status
so that they feel honored. When a

533
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,800
newspaper that does nothing but run hoaxes
and smears, you know, the Russia

534
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:45,880
collusion hooks, the Kavanaugh rape smear, every single like false idea and unfactual

535
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,039
claim gets laundered through the New York
Times. Why would you be honored in

536
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,000
any way to be affiliated with that? Can? I? Can? I

537
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,559
give a quick story. So in
twenty sixteen, I wrote a piece about

538
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,400
how voters or stupid or whatever,
and it was run in the Washington Post.

539
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Now my theory was they thought I
was talking about Trump voters and that's

540
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,599
why they ran it. So they
thought I was agreeing with them, but

541
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:12,880
I was actually talking about all voters. So when it ran, everyone got

542
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,599
really mad about it. And but
I was talking about them, you know,

543
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,320
which says something about voters, right, But you're right. I think

544
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,360
it was only run because they thought
I was attacking Trump voters. Anyway,

545
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,800
let's talk a little bit about the
chicken sandwich again. So two, A

546
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,679
bunch of people are online saying that's
implausible, like one of these things where

547
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:43,199
they view it like when we hear
some Democrats say my two year old son

548
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,320
turned to me and said, are
we really going to be plunged into this

549
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,559
kind of you know, white supremacy
or whatever? And you're like, that

550
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,360
never happened, right, So everyone's
like that never happened. But to me,

551
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,559
it sounds completely like the most plausible
thing that a liberal, that liberals

552
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,880
would do at a newspaper. Remember
The Atlantic when they fired Kevin Williamson,

553
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:07,400
and they had like the the I
think either they had texts from their like

554
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,480
signal chat or whatever whatever. They
sounded just like people who had snapped their

555
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:19,039
fingers. Washington, d C refused
to allow Chick fil A to open up

556
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,800
a business in Washington, d C. The idea that this is like some

557
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,639
fringe idea, when it was the
New York Times itself who laundered some of

558
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,400
this hysteria and mob action against Chick
fil A, which by the way,

559
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:37,440
was very successful, and they got
Chick fil A to totally like back down

560
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,440
on any kind of social conservatism.
And it's shameful, but yes, their

561
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,880
hate chicken is very good, and
so many of us still, you know,

562
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,199
eat it. Honestly, I only
eat it because they hate it,

563
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,159
Like I don't love it. Oh, but I go there because they hate

564
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:58,079
it. The whole way I discovered
Chick fil A is during this mob hysteria

565
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,800
there was this left wing activist who
as a federal employee who worked in my

566
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,079
neighbor in my neighborhood at the time, he was called like del Rey Dave

567
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:07,679
or something, I can't remember what
it was, and he was saying that

568
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,760
the real reason why you should boycott
Chick fil A is not just because of

569
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,960
their progressive policies, on the nature
of marriage. But because they use chip

570
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,639
dice in styrofoam cups for their sodas. And I'm not joking. I read

571
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,239
that tweet, I got up from
my desk and I immediately went to a

572
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,239
Chick fil A because I love soda
with chip dice and styrofoam cups. And

573
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,039
I so hard to guess it was
a styrofoam cup that they had a problem

574
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:37,039
with. Oh, I mean,
there's just nothing better than that. And

575
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:43,159
so that's that began my journey of
loving Chick fil A. They have a

576
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,639
good salad too, if you're into
that, which I bought myself. So

577
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:51,000
you know, you mentioned. All
these people were like, the Atlantic clearly

578
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,159
didn't fact check, and then the
right the right responded with, oh,

579
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,639
yes they did, they did fact
check. I'm like, okay, first

580
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:02,920
of all, the Atlantic doesn't fact
check anything. They ran stories about Anonymous

581
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,400
about the Russia collusion hoax. They
published Franklin four, didn't they like he

582
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:13,159
was like the worst of the idiots
with the Russia collusion hoax. They ran

583
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,440
the information op by who's the editor
there? He does a lot of info

584
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:22,639
ops. Well, Jeffrey, Yes, Jeffrey Goldberg ran the info op that

585
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:30,239
was refuted by name by like two
dozen contemporaneous sources. The infoop he ran

586
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,480
was that Donald Trump secretly hates dead
American soldiers, something so stupid that you

587
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,519
have to be Trump dranged to believe
it. That got laundered into debates.

588
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:43,039
I believe Chris Wallace asked about that
in a national debate. It was a

589
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:47,000
very successful info op. Jeffrey Goldberg
also was used by some of the same

590
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:52,480
agencies to launder information that was false
related to the Iraq War. Like The

591
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:57,760
Atlantic does not fact check the narrative
check maybe, and even the fact that

592
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,599
like Adam put this in The Atlantic
was so sad to me, Like I

593
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,760
thought he wrote it really really well, and I thought it was edited really

594
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,679
really well. It was perfectly calculated
and calibrated to humiliate his enemies at the

595
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:16,039
New York Times. But they don't
fact check. I'm not saying I doubt

596
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:21,320
the story. I totally believe the
story, But the atlant a bunch of

597
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,440
people I trust have come forward and
said that he told them that story when

598
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,119
it happened to me. You believe
one of them works with us? Yeah,

599
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:35,079
So yeah, so that it is
so a bunch of journalism professors are

600
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,039
like, this is completely you know, unprofessional. None of them came out

601
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:45,119
and questioned at all the suckers and
losers story by Trump, and that there

602
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,320
was not a single on the record
source for that, and that it came

603
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,920
out right before in elevee. Not
just that there wasn't a single on the

604
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,719
record source, but that you had
something close to two dozen on the record

605
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:01,119
sources saying it was completely made up. The included people like John Bolton,

606
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:07,360
who hates Donald Trump. You had
contemporaneous documents that verified, you know that

607
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,159
the reason why Donald Trump didn't go
to the ein Maarn Cemetery on a particular

608
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,599
date was not because he secretly harbored
hatred for dead World War One soldiers,

609
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,760
but because it was deemed by the
military not to be safe for travel.

610
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,360
So you had It's like, it
would take a lot to like make up

611
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:30,519
a make up a DoD argument that
in real time backed up his story but

612
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:35,159
was contrary to what these info ops
run by the Jeffrey Goldberg allies said.

613
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:42,239
I did get a kick out of
the author of the sixteen nineteen project Hannah

614
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,960
What is There is? Hannah Joe
Cole Hannah Jones cal Hannah Jones saying this

615
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:50,679
is not true though she wasn't there, though she knows nothing about it,

616
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,639
which is kind of how she writes
history. So obviously we can't be there,

617
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:58,400
but she knows nothing about it.
So yeah, those double standards.

618
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,159
But you know, it just reminded
me of how terrible journalism professors are on

619
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,920
you know, we're not all of
them, because don't you teach journalists smell,

620
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,840
I mean all journalism professors, but
many of the big named ones that

621
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,920
are you know, endorsed by media
and constantly they go to them for quotes

622
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,639
are just complete hacks and journalism jay
school for the most part, though there

623
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,320
are some places that are okay.
Is kind of a racket and not unnecessary.

624
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,960
I think for most journalists it's better
ways of becoming one. So,

625
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,719
Mollie, what what are you doing? What did you do last week on

626
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,360
the culture front? Did you see
anything, hear anything, read anything?

627
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,920
I did. I watched a documentary
while I rode call. It was about

628
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,519
the making of the We Are the
World Oh yes, video. And it

629
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,079
wasn't like the World's Best documentary or
anything like that, but I enjoyed it.

630
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,199
And it was kind of ludicrous that
they were able to put this song

631
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,840
together. And have you seen this
at all? Or now I just saw

632
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,400
the trailer I was actually going to
I was debating whether I should watch it.

633
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,199
Some of the people like do I
really want to revisit some of these

634
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,159
artists? I don't know, But
so it definitely took me back to kind

635
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:14,119
of my musical awakening. I was
pretty young at that time, but I

636
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,800
definitely was interested in all the artists
who were there. Lionel Richie comes up

637
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,480
as being I can't remember who it
literally says that at the beginning of the

638
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,880
documentary whose idea it was? But
you know, Bob Geldoff had put on

639
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,679
that do they know it's Christmas thing? That had raised so much money?

640
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,159
And so there were all these artists
in the US were like, well,

641
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,639
we should be doing something, and
so Lionel Richie tries to get Stevie Wonder

642
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,480
to help him write a song,
but Stevie's kind of busy, and Michael

643
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,559
Jackson and he work it out.
Quincy Jones produces, and they're trying to

644
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:49,639
figure out like how to get all
these people in and Lionel Richie was hosting

645
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:53,400
the American Music Awards like a few
weeks ahead of like a few weeks later,

646
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,519
and they realized, like, there's
going to be every everybody's going to

647
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,559
be at these awards, why don't
we try to do it around that?

648
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,440
And the plan is that they will
finish the awards ceremony at like ten PM

649
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:13,079
and then just go over to the
A and M Studios and record right then.

650
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,760
And that's how it happens. And
so everyone just like shows up,

651
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:22,880
and some people like Bruce Springsteen just
like drives over. Oh my gosh,

652
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,039
who's the guy who sings the Gambler
stuff. Kenny Rogers. Kenny Rogers drives

653
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,199
in, you know, and they've
got all this like video of it because

654
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,679
they were making it to be a
song and a video, so there's just

655
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,599
tons of video of every aspect of
this. And so they go through kind

656
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:43,159
of the drama. Algio is overserved
by himself, you know, which at

657
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:47,159
first is kind of funny and then
becomes horrific. And dan Aykroyd is there

658
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:52,000
for reasons that are never explained in
the documentary. He's one of the Blues

659
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,000
brothers. Yeah, I was reading
that because he was on this album and

660
00:48:57,039 --> 00:48:59,800
he was also one of the Blues
Brothers. He's like one of the top

661
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:07,880
selling musical artists of all time.
But and then there was just like really

662
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,559
hoping that Michael, that Prince would
show up. And they invited Sheila E

663
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,920
and she kind of feels like she
was only invited, even though she performed

664
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,559
that night, but that she was
only invited as like a way to make

665
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:22,800
sure Prince came. But he doesn't
come, and so Huey Lewis has to

666
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,079
fill in for Prince and does a
great job, but he's like super nervous.

667
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,039
Bob Dylan is nervous beyond belief because
like everybody else who's involved in it

668
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:38,280
is a crooner and he's a mumbly
folk artist, you know. And so

669
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:45,280
Stevie Wonder actually kind of like coaches
him into sings like him to get him

670
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,280
to see how he could do it. And it was just and then like

671
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,760
Quincy Jones is amazing. It was
like really interesting to see how it was

672
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:58,599
done and to see all these egos
competing but also working together. It's great.

673
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,719
It was really kind of the boat, you know, we are the

674
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,119
world and then this and then there
were like a bunch there was like a

675
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:06,599
heavy metal one. There was like
Farm Aid, you know, there was

676
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:10,880
like a bunch of stuff that followed, but it was really unique at the

677
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,599
time. I think they were.
There were a few concerts in the sixties

678
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,719
like for or early seventies like for
Bangladeshi and stuff. The funny thing not

679
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,519
funny, but the thing about this
one and We Are the World and Live

680
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,760
Aid is that it would have been
a lot cheaper to go over there and

681
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,440
get rid of the socialist government that
made a man made famine and was spending

682
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,920
this money on like Lenin statues and
stuff. Then to have the concerts.

683
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:35,480
Now remind me, did Live come
after? We came after? I think

684
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,599
yeah. So I stayed up for
that because it was like a reunions of

685
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,239
you know, I watched it all
day. There was like reunions of like

686
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,159
led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and it
was just like this amazing event. I

687
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:49,880
didn't really think there's ever been anything
like it, you know, even even

688
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,519
like Woodstock or Monterrey things like that
didn't have as many like huge names.

689
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:58,119
Remember when Phil Collins played with I
think the Who and then took like a

690
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:04,440
concord Jet and then played in philadel
or something. Yeah, I watched that.

691
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,840
That sounds like a you know,
take me back to my teenage years.

692
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,719
It's not a fan of that song. I think we are the we

693
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,920
are? What's the other one?
Do they know? It's Christmas? Is

694
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:15,960
probably a better song, would you
say? If you have to choose?

695
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:22,880
Neither are particularly great, but they're
both pretty catchy. Do you know what

696
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:28,159
our outro song is going to be? Now? I even just like seeing

697
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,800
the A and M studios. I
had watched this documentary on Herb Albert.

698
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,960
I think one of my weird things
is I probably have the world's largest Herb

699
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,079
Albert record collect I'm always on the
lookout for you when I'm in thrift shops

700
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:44,519
and stuff. I know the ones
they have, and Jerry Moss recently died.

701
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,480
The M in A and M,
and Herb Albert is obviously the A.

702
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,960
But I always foun those studios to
be interesting. They were the old

703
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:53,480
Charlie Chaplin studios, and so just
even seeing the studios themselves, I thought,

704
00:51:54,840 --> 00:52:00,360
interesting, that's cool. Anything else? Yeah? Should I go through

705
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719
it? Yeah? I want to. You want to do one at a

706
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,800
time or do you want to just
go through you now? I don't have

707
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,599
much. I saw this show called
The Bookie with Sebastian Oh boy, men

708
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:20,000
at Scoalco Meniscalco. Do you know
that comedian? Who you talking? I'm

709
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:28,599
so unprepared. It's on HBO.
It's it's about the Sebastian men of Scalco.

710
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,159
I know he is. Yeah,
he's pretty funny. It is not

711
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,119
like, say, for children or
anything like that. It's definitely not.

712
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,519
But it's about a bookie. I
don't even know. I was going to

713
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:44,360
look up if if gambling is legal, like online gambling is legal in California,

714
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,159
but they're in California, and it's
kind of like the last Bookie.

715
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,760
He's still like, you know,
he's trying to survive in this world where

716
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,159
uh, you know, betting is
becoming legal and stuff like that, and

717
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,559
you know, it's I thought it
was pretty funny. I liked it.

718
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,719
This does remind me that one of
the skits that was funny from Shane Gillis

719
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,880
was the one on gambling addiction and
how you did not see it. Oh,

720
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,199
you should look it up. It
was good. And this also reminds

721
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,119
me I wish there was someone who
could just provide the service of listing what

722
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:22,559
we have watched and recommended, because
I'll remember weeks later that you said something

723
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,800
about some show that sounded vaguely interesting, but I didn't write it down,

724
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:29,400
and so then I don't know how
to go find it. And then also,

725
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:31,760
every time someone recommends that we watch
a show or read a book,

726
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,440
I send it to my husband in
the hopes that he will remember, so

727
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,199
that when we're trying to figure out
what to watch, that won't do it.

728
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:44,519
Like you see the recommendation for Organized
Do you see the recommendation for Amsterdam

729
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:47,400
that someone sent in? Yeah,
I heard that movie's terrible. Me too,

730
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,000
so I think we published reviews saying
it was horrible. So I just

731
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,639
didn't bother even though I very much
like David o'russell. But now that we've

732
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,320
been challenged to watch it, I'm
like, well, I think we'll have

733
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,880
to watch it. I mean,
I won't be able to do this weekend.

734
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:04,559
Okay, let's keep the recommendations coming. I actually sometime tho I don't

735
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,559
answer emails that often. I do
most of the time. If I haven't

736
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:09,360
heard of it, look it up
and see what it's about. Sorry,

737
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:17,119
Okay, so we watched The Firm
recently. The firm like Tom Cruise or

738
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:22,039
the firm Gary Oldman. There's two
different firm Tom Cruise. Okay, I

739
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:25,920
like that movie. It was all
right. I like those nineties thrillers,

740
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,639
like there were a lot of them
in the late eighties. I really felt

741
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:36,039
like it was normalizing infidelity. There's
a lot of infidelity. Was there a

742
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,039
lot or was there just that one
instance that instant? I love how he

743
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:42,599
was set up, Like, you
can't set someone up to do that.

744
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,920
You do it or you don't do
it? Right? Am I wrong about

745
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,639
that? All that infidelity is is
constant set ups, you know, by

746
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:53,599
Satan or otherwise, like it's you
have to be stronger than too. It

747
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:58,039
wasn't even like that difficult to keep
walking. Yeah, I mean Tom Cruise

748
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:01,480
could have looked at it and said
not today, Satan. Right. So

749
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:06,760
we watched Guardians of the Galaxy with
the kids, which was it was fine.

750
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,880
I'm not really into those, are
they Marvel movies or whatever? But

751
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:15,199
this one's pretty good, much better
than other ones I've seen. I think

752
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:17,360
they're the only ones I actually kind
of like because they are funny and kitchy

753
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,519
a little bit, I guess.
Yeah, And the part of the well,

754
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,079
there's like a subplot involving a soundtrack
that the main character listens to,

755
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,599
and the first song he listens to
is ten CC's I'm Not in Love,

756
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:37,079
which is the first song my husband
and I danced to at our wedding.

757
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,159
It's very nice. Yeah, And
then I think, oh, I did

758
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,320
watch one that I do want to
highly recommend. So those those other things

759
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,840
I'm not recommending, but Night Crawler, Oh, with the Jake Gillenhall.

760
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:57,880
Gill I always kiss Jillen Hall.
No, I don't know, I always

761
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,639
kill Hartroy his name, and I
want to see that. Actually, is

762
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:07,159
he the photographer from that or kind
it's kind of like plays it kind of

763
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:13,280
like a psychopath who becomes a person
who gets footage of gruesome incidents and then

764
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:19,760
sells them to TV stations. But
it's it's kind an interesting story, but

765
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:27,519
also an interesting look at the media
and how they cut corners for stories.

766
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,000
Really, all right, I'll give
that a shot. That's been on my

767
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:37,760
radar for a while now it's a
few years old. I only have one

768
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,840
other thing I've still watching going through
all the Columbos. But there's a show

769
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,679
called Tokyo Vice. I mentioned the
first season of it. It's on HBO,

770
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,599
and it's about this American trying to
be a journalist in Japan and gets

771
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,800
you know's a mob stuff and all
this other interesting stuff going on. It's

772
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,239
a pretty good show, so I'm
just going to recommend it. I don't

773
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,119
know the names of the people who
are in the show. The guy was

774
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,840
in Baby Driver. Do you remember
that movie Baby Driver? I do?

775
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:09,880
I see Ken Wotton Abby was on
there too. Oh yeah, he's in

776
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,480
it too. Yeah, And it's
a it's a pretty good show. That's

777
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:16,880
your kind of thing. Yeah,
okay, great thriller. It's not not

778
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:22,239
kids safe either. It's violent and
there's sexual content and all that. You

779
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,800
know, as I get older,
I don't really love that stuff at all.

780
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,119
Like I don't think the story like
I need to see people being dismembered

781
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,000
or I need to see people being
raped or whatever. But I feel like

782
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,840
it's hard to find a show,
a thriller or mystery where that's not really

783
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,320
part of it. And maybe that's
why I'm watching Colombo. I don't even

784
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,440
know, you know, I just
want a good story without like all the

785
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,639
I don't need to see it.
Do I sound like I'm losing my edge.

786
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,920
No good. I should have warned
people that Night Crawler has a lot

787
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,960
of violence. Yeah, I do. I am skip it, I am.

788
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:59,960
I think I mentioned this one earlier, but I'm now in season three

789
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:06,079
of Loudermilk. Yeah. I like
that show. It's all right. I

790
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:10,760
like his uh that's the he's the
record former critic. Yeah, I like

791
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,519
that show. Yeah, it's kind
of like a very mellow kind of short

792
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,079
show, right, Like, I
don't know this kind of new trend where

793
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:24,719
it's not too much all right?
Is anything else? No? So,

794
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,599
I just wanted to mention the email
again radio at the Federal Federalist dot com.

795
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Please emails if you have any cultural
suggestions, and until then, the

796
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,119
lovers are freedom and anxious for the
play