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place and the head of the table
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god mine does tix sting us damn
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Austin, get a the lave Amable. Hey, what's going on guys now?

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Welcome back to WWE Retro on the
WWE Podcast on this Friday, June

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twenty third, as I'm actually recording
on the twenty second, but by the

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time you guys are gonna be hearing
it, it will be the twenty third,

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as we are just one week away
from the money in the Bank event.

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The Bloodline Civil War a great tagline, great marketing, as Matt and

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I have discussed in the past week, and it is shaping up to be

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a pretty good card. Albeit you
wish World the World Championship where the World

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Tell is actually being defended, but
you would wish that the Undisputed Championship would

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have been defended on Roman Rains as
side. But it is one of those

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situations where the storyline is taking precedent
over the championship and you know what,

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you could let it slide sometimes and
instances like this, although you do want

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the most prestigious title in the company
to typically be defended on pay per views.

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But we're not here to talk about
that. We are here to talk

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about rivalries or not rivalries. Oh
my god, we're throwing it back a

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back to my old show rivalries,
which I mean, I guess we could

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talk about rivalries on retro retro costs
more of a broader net, but we're

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not talking about rivalry today. We
are talking about Mick Foley's post in ring

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retire mint career. So what does
that mean. Obviously, Mick Foley had

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matches well into the two thousands,
but he actually retired in early two thousand

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and his final match or I think
he was actually when he faced Triple H

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at the Royal Rumble in two thousand. But then he came out of retirement

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for the fatal four way match McMahon
in any court, in every corner at

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the Wrestling A two thousand event.
So all for just like so we have

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a hard kind of benchmark here.
We are going to be covering everything from

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Mick Foley post two thousand, and
we're knocking to get into his TNA stuff

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were probably will touch on briefly what
happened in the two thousand and tens,

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but it's mainly going to be from
two thousand all the way into about two

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thousand and seven, when he would
come back periodically for some events. Well,

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the first thing that mc foley did
in his post for in his post

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in ring career was really get involved
as the commissioner in WWE. And if

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you remember, in the pre general
manager world, there was the WWE commissioner.

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You had Sergeant Slaughter, you had
Sean Michaels, and then in the

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year two thousand you had Mick Foley. And Mick Foley didn't last long as

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commissioner. He certainly was a lovable, non heelish type of authority figure,

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which was a nice change of pace, especially after we were so accustomed to

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Vince McMahon after all those years as
the heel authority figure as the on screen

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and real life owner. But Mick
Foley brought a different element, a nice

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element, a charming element, a
lovable element. And I will always remember

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one of Mick Foley's biggest biggest impacts
as a general manager or as the commissioner,

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I should say was when he came
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that's a match that we don't talk
about. The main event rather is a

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match we don't talk about, and
that was The Rock against Chris Benwol for

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the WWF Championship. And it was
actually the first time Chris Benwolf had won

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a world championship, or so we
thought until mcfoley had something to say about

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it. Right, freaking cock must
like the here, he must good,

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the rocks casts break and the coup
the class place, the revers got on

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here, the the gentlman, the
er off as a resolver, one of

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this wall of potation, ROAs biggest
cup, the Brie, the m of

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the Rockey must in tire, and
one of the rocket was City. And

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then America is over and the rockets
in the clean the eyes. It must

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in terre from City. So,
just for context, this the stipulation of

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this match was if ben Waugh won
by disqualification, the title would still change

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hands. So that's why the Rock
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hit the Heavner with the steel chair, when in fact it was shame McMahon.

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And you know we covered it last
week A bit, but sham and

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Ben was always just a thorn in
the rock side, and here he's managing

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Chris ben Wah. He gets involved, the Rock gets blamed for what he

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did hitting the rev, and ben
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The Rock now busted open, bloodied
because of shame McMahon him with the

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steel chair, and then outcomes Commissioner
Mick Foley wongs be a chair in a

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superlong it's the go hither room my
commission. I did put playing any book,

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but I restarted that never insisted with
the morn over. Think it's got

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to be trying to Musian. He
got a publicly it's not the plays apple.

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I don't know what he's done here
former, but he didn't do change

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a bit long you're going mom is
leading on the day, sir, thenvesting,

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so it all could change on a
disqualifaication. But I'm sure sir didn't

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see the squali vacation. No nobody
anytime Texas this fallaison. The commissioner,

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I'm all right, this match continue. And that's kind of mcfolian, a

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nutshell, right, the greater Good, always looking to do the right thing,

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and he get he restarts the match
and the Rock retains the WWF Championship,

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and that was kind of mcfolian a
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He also makes the Armageddon Helen a
Cell, the six man match with

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the Rock, Steve Austin, Triple
h Rakishi, Kurt Angle and the Undertaker,

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and Vince McMahon was trying everything in
his power to stop that match because

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of all the risk that would come
with his investments with his superstars. And

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when Vince comes out with that pickup
truck to try and drag down the cage

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or the Cell, and Mick comes
out throws him out, and it was

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just it was a nice run for
mcfoley as the WWF commissioner and a role

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that he stepped away from, I
believe in late two thousand. In two

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thousand and one, he resurfaces to
be the special guest referee between Shane and

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Vince McMahon. He resurfaces in the
Invasion Angle to be the special guest referee

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at the Invasion pay per view,
in the Broun Panties match and in the

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Earl Headner Verse Neil nick Patrick match. The ref versus ref matches, he

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was considered impartial as he had been
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Then mcfoley kind of went away for
a bit, you know. I mean,

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I'm sure maybe he popped up here
and there, but Mick foley kind

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of had sporadic or non existent appearances
from two thousand and one all the way

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to two thousand and three and two
thousand and three. In late two thousand

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and three when Austin first popped,
or was when Austin was the GM of

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Monday Night Raw. He would be
removed as the CODEGM following Survivor series two

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thousand and three. And then this
is when mcfoley briefly was brought in as

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the COGM as well in two thousand
and three, and it didn't last long,

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but there was one specific moment where
he had a run in with none

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other than the tag team known as
Elabrasis Styles Destruction. What yea of their

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fighters as well? I'm on you
see, Mick, Eric fisched off going

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to shoot us that our jobs are
safe. So now it's our turn to

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humiliate you, starting with you saluting
the French flag a couple. I'm on

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right here, right now, but
Eric Gushupstead loves it doesn't get your jot

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so to meet you. When I'm
be in, we will introdu to a

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behavior French style. I'm gonna say, how let me get this straight.

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You want me to salute the French
flag right here, right now, Let's

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make a bet on that. Listen, man, you know I have nothing

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against French things. So I like
French fries. I'm like, I like

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French toast. Yeah, I like
I like French's mustard. But I don't

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like you. So if you think
you to beat the crap out of me,

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you go ahead. But I'm sure
it's I'm not gonna stand here and

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I don't like California United exchange the
part that's a little that damn flag.

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You're thinking you beat the cop out. You're pretty out now, not not

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solutely the French flag. Listen,
I need think for me. You have

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little problems, he say, kicking
your eyes here gets flat like that.

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Oh he's like bracking his hair.
I so it's you know, it always

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comes back to the rock with Mick
Foley a bit. But obviously Lawer's stones

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about to do a two on one
beat down with mc foley, and the

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rock comes out. They have a
nice little segment the Rocks makes fun of

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Lawer's stones and then they put a
beat down on Lawrs' stones to send the

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crowd a home happy. And then
you know, you go over the next

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several months that followed this event and
you have mcfoley start his program with Randy

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Orton. And this was the first
major wrestling program that McK foley had been

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involved with in four years, ironically
enough, with Randy Orton's mentor at the

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time, Triple H back in two
thousand and four. And you have Mick

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Foley, you know, get his
ass beat by Evolution on several occasions,

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kicked down the flight of stairs at
Madison Square Garden. You have him,

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you know, beaten down and catering
and power bomb through a table. It

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was always a three on one event, and this kind of led to a

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point where Mick Foley had to challenge
Randy Orton. But he knew that he

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could never actually get Randy Orton one
on one. And that's why when Randy

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Orton challenged him to a match at
the WrestleMania twenty event, Mick Foley had

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other plans. A my choice,
So I'm gonna be clear on one anymore

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player, it'll be three my two. What's you gonna be back? Nick,

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I'd realize. I realize is that
you gotta know friends in the back

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that you're gonna need a special partner. And I've heard the rumors, and

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from the sound of it, these
people have heard the rumors too. What's

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you go ahead? You go ahead, Nick, You go to a paintball.

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You go to a paintball. You
call mister big shot, mister Hollywood.

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You tell him that you two for
hord. And then while you're on

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the phone with the Nick, do
you the favorite, tell mister walking Tall

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that after Rustle made uh, neither
of you two podcasts are gonna be walking

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after we're talking with you go ahead
and they go back, call up,

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tell him, tell him that I'm
gonna call him now. Now you call

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up, you tell him what I
said. Wait, wait, wait,

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wait, I think I've got a
little bit better idea. You're seeing.

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Instead of me going back there and
telling him on the phone, won't you

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telling yourself home to him? Tell
him to his face. You see ornament,

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you see flaw, you see what
they stopped. Don't damn min I

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said that fully? What's coming back? To row, I never said Nick

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Foley's coming. So once again,
Mick Foley gets himself into dicey waters in

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an outmatch situation and is bailed out
by The Rock. And you're probably saying,

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why does every clip that you're putting
in include The Rock here, Well,

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it's simple. It's because to this
point he mcfoley had really only been

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involved in physical altercations when it featured
The Rock or it featured someone else,

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and that had kind of been the
story for the last four years since he

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retired from in ring competition, And
that was until WrestleMania twenty when he and

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The Rock teamed up to face Evolution, a match that Evolution would come out

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on top. Now, after this, he would have a one on one

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match with Randy Orton at Backlash,
a match that he would ultimately lose,

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a match that was for the Intercontinal
Championship. So now four years post his

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in ring retirement, mcfoley had gotten
his first match under his belt in the

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tag team capacity and his first singles
match under his belt against Randy Orton,

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one that he lost. Two more
years go by, or about a year

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and seven to eight months, I
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and six and starts his program with
Edge and Lo and Behold. This would

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lead to Mick Foley's first WrestleMania match, a singles match, I should say,

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his first singles match at WrestleMania since
nineteen ninety nine, so a seven

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year layoff, because his prior one
at Wrestling at twenty was a tag match,

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and the one before that was a
fatal four way with the Big Show,

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The Rock and Triple Age. So
his first one on one match at

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wrestlemanian seven years, and this time
in an extreme rules capacity, And I

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gotta tell you, him and Edge
left it all on the line in this

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match. You guys know the story, you guys know the ending, but

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when you really listen to it,
it hits all that much differently. Yea.

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So now mc foley had yet another
match under his belt, this time

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a hardcore fashion. He came back, he looked like he had lost some

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weight, He looked like he was
just overall better, you know, and

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he put on a really gruesome match
with Edge. You know, he ends

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that match through going through a flaming
table, and you think, okay,

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is Mick Foley gonna ride off into
sunset like he did two years prior in

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similar fashion against Randy Orton on the
heels of an extreme rules, hardcore whatever

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match you want to call it,
street fight, a match that had no

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constraints. But no, he stuck
around and he continued his program with Edge

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and they were scheduled to have a
rematch, a rematch of a hardcore in

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a hardcore fashion in May. Mick
Foley comes out and he says, we're

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gonna inject some ECW into this match, and he says it's gonna be a

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triple threat between him, Edge and
Tommy Dreamer. And this is where Mick

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Foley took a turn that we had
never really seen before and one that kind

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of signaled that, Wow, this
is a different version of Mick Foley marking

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to stay outside. And I called
it from behind was remember some threeman from

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Stain game fully blasted Tommy Dreamer the
back of that bark one covering baseball back

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and it's here remember himself, hands
down and bally looking at he said,

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it's only get the head for bullies
equipment here. What what does bully been

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to war right clock face Tommy Threemer? Well, whever what we seeing here

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to hear what we're seeing, Tommy
Briger get hit the face. Look you

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know who died met Folly. That's
the barmark coming right down the holy dribbing

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at three hundred pounds and the bark
wire to the bloody face of Tommy Treemer.

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I don't get this, blinded,
Mike, and Tommy Driver does this

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turning fright? And remember the hard
four rules rules you can in this qualify

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and Dreamer as letting profusionally and that
he is quite brantly a vote fully and

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edge. And I don't understand what
we're doing here. I mean it's it's

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almost as if the kids and Folly
are working in concert here. Half of

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that? How would that be out
of that? I don't understand nothing.

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Our mind goes not a DC doctor
man, what got another against DC?

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The card at the so called mister
and I'm gonna lead, but the bean

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the ring legally bothers, no rules, buy something, mister sun gone and

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Dreamers but much to burn and pulling
down the bendable club, mister summer Dreaming

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spear taking down Dreamer from cover.
And just like that you have a heel

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mcfoli on your hands. And one
that you probably hadn't had since the Mankind

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in nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety
eight. And the next week he beats

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the hell out of Terry Funk,
his idol at, his former tag team

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partner, someone that he looked up
to, and Wow, like this brand

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new sadistic heel version aligned with Edge
mcfoli, and this, honestly, looking

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back, this really made Edge.
This made Edge as a main eventor yeah,

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he had already cashed him money in
the bank. Yeah, he was

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already, you know, a bona
fide star. But in my mind,

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this really broad Edge out the feud
and then the subsequent alliance with mcfoli.

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They would go on to face Tommy
Dreamer and Terry Funk at the One Night

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Stand pay per view, and it
was the promo that Mick Foley cut before

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the pay per view that really kind
of lets you or before the match rather

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that really lets you know that this
guy had changed, you know, saying

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that the best owner of all time
for ECW was death Ny McMahan and all

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that, and then you the match
gets under way and the way it finished

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really kind of told the story about
where they were positioning Edge moving forward here

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in WWE, but also the bump
that Edge was getting from mcfoley. God,

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yeah, talk didn't save the body. You go to the fire and

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doing stupid and that's a massive win
for mcfoli and Edge, and you know,

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their partnership would you know, go
on for oh, I don't know

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how much longer, because Edge would
get back into the w w E Championship

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scene and Rick Flair and mcfoley would
actually start to get engaged in a program

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that I think that's spilled all the
way into Impact Wrestling as well. But

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this kind of was more or less
the closing of the book on the whole

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Edge and mcfoley angle. As you
know, Edge would go on to bigger

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and better things with the WWE Championship, his feud with John Cena over the

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course of the summer, and then
ultimately forming Rated Arco later No. Six

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and getting involved with that D Generation
accident. As for mcfoley, you go

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away again. And this is right
around the time, like I stopped watching

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wrestling. There was a point from
around mid oh seven until twenty eleven where

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I was really checked out. But
I'm pretty sure mc foley had a stunt,

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a stint rather on the SmackDown commentary
team alongside Jim Ross, so there

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was that to note. And then
in two thousand and ten or I believe,

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he went to Impact Wrestling, and
obviously never watched Impact Wrestling, but

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I believe he rekindled his rivalry with
Rick Flair over there. But in twenty

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sixteen he would make his return to
the company, firstly at Wrestling at thirty

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two, where he Sean Michaels and
Steve Aouston would beat up the League of

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Nations and then have a bit of
fun with the New Day and then he

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would become the Raw General Manager under
Raw Commissioner Stephanie McMahon, and that was

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a good little run that he had
all the way up until I believe it

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was the lead up to Wrestling at
thirty three, where Stephanie and Triple H

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would fire him. But I thought
he could have had a better run as

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Raw GM. He always played the
baby face authority role pretty well, I

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must say. But since being fired
obviously on screen from his role as Raw

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General Manager six years ago, we
haven't seen much from Mick Foley. But

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just to show you that he kind
of did all that he could have you

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could have expected him to do after
retiring in two thousand. You know,

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he was the baby Face Commissioner,
came back as the COGM, had a

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tag team match alongside The Rock,
his longtime friend, several one on one

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matches in hardcore fashion against the likes
of Randy Orton, an edge in a

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lot of ways, making those guys
along the way, then having a heel

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turn aligning himself with Edge, going
against the grain and his heritage and a

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double or ec W. I should
say, hey, you know SmackDown Commentary

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Team back as RAGM. Mick Foley
really kind of dipped his toe in a

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lot of things, but in after
retiring in two thousand. But all this

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to say, I think he had
a pretty memorable run, even if it

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was on and off and spread over
the course of seventeen years or so.

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Anyway, guys, that's all I
got for you today. I hope you

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enjoy the review of Mick Foley's career
post retirement in two thousand. As always,

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