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On location and driven by Dods G. Brown. It's Billified the Bill Moran

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Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's
how we spread the word about the pirate

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ship. On a depressing cold,
what feels like November afternoon, November,

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it feels like it health ros over. It feels like hell froze over today.

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I going into this game, the
Buffalo Bills losing to the New England

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Patriots this game. Yeah, going
into this game, I think for the

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second week in a row, the
Bills were the biggest favorite in the league

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heading into the weekend, the biggest
favorite, damn. And the big question

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for me was you know which version
of the Buffalo Bills and which version of

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Josh Allen would show up? And
I think we got our answer and it

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wasn't. I don't know, man. They played six games this season.

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Three they looked like they could be
Super Bowl contenders, and three they look

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like they're they're the bottom of the
barrel. I mean, it feels like

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they've had three losses in a row. Greg and they have it. They

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beat the Giants, they should have. They were close to winning today.

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But I mean they shouldn't have won. They didn't win. Yeah, and

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you know, I mean, yeah, it's depressing to say that mac Jones

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had his best game. He did
probably not, Ever, that's probably his

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best game as a professional. Yeah, yeah, I would think that.

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And and I view one of I
view this game coming into this game with

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the expectations of the Bills coming off
of the win from the Giants, but

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yet they tripped into it, right, they fell into it. The Giants

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gave it to him, which came
off of the Jaguars loss, which they

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were close, and they hung in
even though they didn't play well. They

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were in London's at excuses you now
have three weeks. Yeah, a blow,

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par I mean, is Josh hurt
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I don't think so. I don't
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He threw that ball to Digs at
the NBA game that like with the I

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mean, I don't think you can't
blame it on that. There's a lot

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of things you can blame it on, but the shoulder is pretty low on

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the list. I really believe that
this team last You scripped your first fifteen

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plays offensively, right, and when
you can't out maneuver one of the worst

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They're not. No one has got
a good defense. But when you can't

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out maneuver one of the worst teams
in the NFL in your first few drives,

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you're getting picked off of the first
play of the game or you're off,

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you got problems. This team's got
all kinds of Josh has not gone

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back to back with two games in
a row with out turning the ball over.

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Yeah, And I believe going into
this week either. And I'm sure

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Kevin because he's so astute. He's
been very nice though, and he's been

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quiet on the podcast. He wasn't
earlier. But I did win Wimbledon today.

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Knuck it in under some taco salad. I saw it. That's why

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I covered it up with a cloth. Is that you know when you when

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you look at I mean, I
think the Patriots were of the power rankings.

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I think the Patriots were either thirty
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two teams this last week coming into
this game, and then as the Bills

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team coming off of that Giants again, sneaky you got it wasn't a win

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that felt like a win. No, feel like I couldn't have felt like

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a win for them, and the
Jacksonville loss felt like a loss because you

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played poorly. You had a chance
at the end, but you couldn't pull

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it off, which was like,
you got to win those games that you're

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tight like that if you're going to
be a super Bowl contender. Who thought

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the Bills would play like this against
I mean I picked the based on the

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points. I said the Bills were
going to win. But I don't think

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Dorsey's offense could distinguish themselves by nine
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on this, right, Not that
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I didn't. I didn't contemplate the
straight up loss either, not not even

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close. I thought for sure that
this would I thought maybe they would come

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out and really this would be another
Miami game. They were going to show

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and take advantage hit it. Yeah, and just I mean show how powerful

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this offense is and no matter who's
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to happen. So Dan and I
earlier this week we're texting about the Bills

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because we're you know, we're preparing
for today. Yeah, smart people.

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I didn't hear from Greg got week
I don't know what must and Patriots,

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and I wouldn't have talked to you, Kevin, because I didn't want to

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give you anything. Again, patri
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we didn't. I didn't want to
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Pats any additional motivation at all.
But Dan brought up a great point is

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that the Bills rhythm sucks and they've
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the rhythm. Like with Jim Kelly. They went to the no huddle,

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they let Jim make it. They
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said, look, this is our
game plan. Went to do ABC things

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and then let Jim dictate that and
they trusted in him. Today it showed

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again they had no flow, they
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New England was changing things up.
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of scrimmats at the last minute.
They had movement, they had guys,

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they had you know, all kinds
of just which side of the Boston for

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you guys today? What do you
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there was a team effort. Yeah, it was a team Here's what you're

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gonna hear. You're gonna hear team
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has already said this, have already
gotten text about it that. Oh well,

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you know you got a lot of
injuries on defen Yeah, so does

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New England. Yeah. Yeah,
it's the NFL. It's the NFL.

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You're gonna have injuries. Overcome them, figure it out. That's where defensive

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coaching come. So that's where your
head coach has to like show up and

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like figure it out. And you
just got beat by Mac Jones on the

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last drive of the freaking game on
your side of the ball. Yeah,

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you had the game despite all the
all the issues on off They had the

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game one and all you have to
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And you didn't do it. If
you make the stops too, you have

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thirteen seconds, Fuck you. You
got to make one stop on third down,

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on one stop and you win the
game. Yeah. Not only did

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they not do that, but they
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Thirty five on the first place had
a penalty. Yeah, the penalties

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have been awful this season, so
lack of discipline. Yeah, it's coaching.

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And Tim Graham from the Athletic tweeted
this out. It's hilarious. Josh

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Allen's best play so far in the
last three games has been drawing a an

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unsportsman like conduct penalty on roughing the
passer. That's been their best, most

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consistent plays, those fifteen yard penalties. I mean, this team's got They've

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got all kinds of issues. And
as I was telling Greg, they lack

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focus. There's no champion on the
sideline, so there's nobody going after them,

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getting in anybody's face and saying,
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Josh doesn't do it. McDermott doesn't
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it. And does it is Stephan, Digs and Diggs get the most.

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You know, he got so much
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and I were getting after it.
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Wednesday or Thursday and press for the
game, and we said, what's the

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difference between the Bills and the Patriots
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quarterback, it's Josh Allen because Tom
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wouldn't have put up with with with
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he would have gotten in his grill
against that Giants game, he said,

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you got to make that freaking play
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the rest of the Giants games are
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a sneak win, it's you won, it's confidence. He didn't do it.

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It made me laugh when he got
hit that late hit and he turned

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around and he put his looking for
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ever cried to Tom Brady doing that
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But my point is that when you
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have Joe Montana, you have Aaron
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guys didn't make plays, they went
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do better. Yeah, and they
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stuff. Jim Kelly did that with
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and by the way, they would
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after Farv, they will go back
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there was the mutual respect where we
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they don't do that anymore and McDermott's
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What do we think though, with
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comes to trade deadline. I think
they have a little over a million dollars

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available in the cap unless you do
some restructuring. Should they go after something

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and yeah, a new goddamn offensive
coordinator and you and you don't have to

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do anything about the trade deadline.
You do anything about like like work in

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the salary cap. So somebody's I
don't know either Dan or somebody said to

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me, well, how about bringing
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be a great number two with Stefan, you'd have one A, you'd have

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one in one A. But if
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position, it doesn't matter. I'll
say this. I'll say this, they

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do need a definitive one A or
one B because what they're doing is they're

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bracketing digs. They're double team in
him. Nobody else is getting open,

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nobody else is getting separation. Deontay
Hardy, they paid him what five million

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dollars a year. He had a
couple of catches today. But so what

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you know, I mean, Dalton
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gonna use him. When they drafted
him. It's like they ask Ndorsey how

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do you plan on using them?
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he was he was wide open open
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the worst answer. And it's been
getting now more and more, it's getting

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more and more attack like they didn't
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season. They don't have a plan. Kincaid seems more reliable than not.

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He does well. We were saying
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bigger, stronger Yeah. Cole Beasley, Oh okay, that makes But how

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you use them? You gotta use
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to use them. We don't know. We don't know how we can't we

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we've watched last three games. We
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know, this last week, it
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winning teams and those that are good
but not there. Because when all the

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criticism in the last two weeks that
come on Dorsey and this last week the

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Dawkins, Uh, you know,
Josh Allen, you had Dawson Knox say

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it's not Dorsey, it's you know, who are you guys? You guys

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are sitting there, you're on podcasts
like us, you're on the radio.

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You guys aren't pros. You guys
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the pros that are critiquing them.
Well, the thing is is that you

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haven't shown up and nobody's criticizing you. So Ken Dorsey's often sucks, right,

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yeah, okay, Well then why
did Dawson knock drop the ball?

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Why? Why did they not have
why did they not execute on third down?

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The in the in the beginning of
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it was third and four and you
got gave Davis fumbling. You know that's

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Gabe Davis. Then, so we're
critiquing Ken Dorsey because they lost because he

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didn't make the call. Can you
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the ball. Well, then look
at yourselves, you know, call yourselves

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out. That's bullshit, damn it, right, that's what the bickering Bills

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did. Yeah, he raised Jim
raised their game. They raised jim game.

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They all rose to the level and
they got as close as we could

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be. Damn what we gotta get
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it. I know there's still accountability. What's gonna I almost feel like like

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and I keep saying this sort of
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season this is over, which isn't. Isn't that's a traumatic statement, Okay,

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because I had him going thirteen and
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Well, here's the deal. They've
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around against the Tampa team that barely
lost to day against Slam. They couldn't

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move to the football, but neither
could the Patriots. Okay, they're coming

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to Buffalo Thursday, so you gotta, you gotta. They gotta immediately get

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on the flight, start game planning. You got, they gotta put this

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behind them and get ready for Tampa
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to get ready for Cincinnati, who
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to come down by little bit.
That's a Monday Night did last year.

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So I mean, like you can't
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Bay. You still got a tough
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one, you're still only a game
above five hundred in the division where Miami's

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been killing everybody. Oh, by
the way, until about the seven to

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twenty five mark in the fourth quarter, the Bill scored more points against Miami

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than they did in the first two
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half games, this is the thing. And I think it was Mitch Morris

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who said because they had sat in
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guys out in the fourth quarter,
sitting them down, and he's saying,

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we got to learn to play all
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that that's a part of the losses
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don't have an issue with that.
They had just lost Trey White that day.

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I mean, I think Mitch Morris
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stuff. The fact is that game
against the Giants. I went back and

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watched it and you guys know that
I brought that up and it was just

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like it was lack of focused drops, stupid stuff that you go another example.

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So is it Dorsey? Yeah,
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game plan too, and if he
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issue altogether. But like thirty percent
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percent of effect that they can't block, they can't get open, they can't

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catch, they can't hold onto the
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and when we we should look when
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the summer, we looked at this
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of the sky. Yeah we did, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Then we're one and three out of
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and you know, I mean in
the plus Philly bunks, we're part of

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the soft part of the schedule.
Coming out of last year, they're playing

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a little bit better. I still
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I'm a Bucks fan on the NFC
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not as good as any other of
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And and so not taking care of
business in this game today, you should

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win this game that only you didn't
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unadultterated coach. So what happens now, Because there was a lot of criticism

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in that, I saw it all
over social media on Dorsey, They'll be

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people are saying he should be fired, he should be this. I mean,

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there's gonna be no they pick on
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This is what I'm saying. But
so clearly that won't be the case.

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But if it comes down to coaching. Do we think that this could be,

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you know, coming near I don't
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that. You're certainly not coming near
the end. Everybody has contracts. The

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team has done too well under McDermott, but there are some people who believe

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that McDermott is sort of losing the
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me, I mean, the Pagoulas
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McDermott and what he's brought to the
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The question becomes if he loses the
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got a guy like Josh who is
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think McDermott only loses the locker room
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are gonna rally on Josh and he
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like Brady. Because if Brady,
if he were like Brady and called guys

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out and then he didn't performing through
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good point. Who through the interception
Jersey did Josh did? They're gonna look

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to him. You gotta perform at
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and if you don't, then then
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Right, Josh doesn't do that.
I don't think he loses that. I

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think they're the type of team that
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which is fantastic in the good times, but in the bad times it just

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spirals we're gonna find out and then
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The Bills really haven't had any real
bad times since twenty nineteen. They really

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haven't. I mean, think about
the thing they go to THENFC Championship game

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in twenty twenty. You know what
they got beat by Kansasity can't see was

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a better team. Nobody in the
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They just weren't. Twenty twenty one, they had him, They had

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him with thirteen seconds to go,
and that was an implosion, but like

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it was too short. Everybody went
home. It was, you know,

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hey, let's go enjoy your winter, get ready to get it next year.

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and then they go and they lose
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well they ever have been This is
the first time they've really actually struggled with

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this, this offense, this head, this coaching staff, this quarterback,

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and now they got to figure that
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shot where it's a good thing,
it gets inside you and prevents other things.

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But they got to get their act
together. Question. Well, the

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thing is that for me, I
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this is the first time they've had
these challenges on the field. They've had

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adversity off the field, but on
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they you know, they had against
Jacksonville when day Bull was here. I

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thought Dable at that point in time, responded well, the offense responded,

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well, we had that against Jacksonville
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With Dorsey now as a leader as
opposed to day Bold, he did

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not. We then come in to
you know, this game, thinking,

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it's the freaking goddamn Patriots, who
are not the Patriots of three, four

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or five years ago. It's the
Patriots to today, which is one of

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the worst teams in the NFL.
We're gonna we should win this game handedly.

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It should be decisive, fourth quarter, should be more killing the clock,

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big running game. It didn't happen. What the hell's going on?

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I don't know. This is you
almost hope that this is sort of that

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mid season lull in a way,
like you know, they kind of went

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through and will we look back on
this and go, man, that was

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you know, scary, but it's
fine. Everything worked out great. Or

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are we going to go with this
is where it all fell apart and what's

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going on to it hurts? You
have to be positive about player making a

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play today too, because you've been
all over him all so he did make

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one day. You know, Kevin
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where it used to be for the
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But I mean, are they playing
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what. I don't get what's happening. How do you go from Miami where

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you blew them out to what we've
seen the last three weeks. So I

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think that, you know, I'm
thinking these more in terms of business.

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So when you look at it from
a business perspective, is that you play

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up, You play to your to
your competition, you play to your space,

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and when your space is like in
technology, you got to be on

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your a game. You got to
be at the top of your game.

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Change. You know, technology is
changed in every thirty sixty ninety days.

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You got to be there. Well, right now the Bills aren't playing up

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to that a game they'reine got beat
up by Barrymore and Dietrich Wise. Today

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they just destroy them. And so
when you look at this, and from

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a business perspective, it's that you
know, this is a maybe a mid

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tier to mid upper tier team,
and so they're and they're performing even below

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that. I would say, yeah, but their talent is that And then

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so the whole thing is that what
do you need to do as an organization

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to change that? And for me, it's all about holding each other accountable.

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And and if McDermott, in my
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ultimate leader of the team, gets
on everybody for the lack of you know,

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the blocks, lack of blocks,
lack of catches, lack of tackling,

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all of a sudden, these guys
can be like fu, you're not

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tackling, you're not blocking. Who
the hell are you as the leader?

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You're collecting all this money, You're
not doing the damn work. We're doing

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the work. It's got to come
from within, and you got to hold

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each other accountable. Josh has got
to hold Digs accountable. And by the

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way, I love Diggs, And
when Diggs gave Josh shit last year,

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it was because he wanted to win. When when he gave Josh shit or

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he threw the pad in London,
it's because he freaking didn't do what he's

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supposed to do. I love that
about Diggs. But you know what,

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m effort, he dropped the ball. He should have caught. It would

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have been twenty five yard on their
side of the field. You would have

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had one play to get in the
freaking end zone and you would have had

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to play to win the game.
He didn't do it. You know what.

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That's on goddamn Digs. Josh put
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That's a great throw. You gotta
make the goddamn catch. Now nobody

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wants to talk about that. Why
because John, because it Digs. You

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know what. I think Diggs would
respond to that and be like, you

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know what, f you, You're
right, you know what, I gotta

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do it. I gotta catch it. But at this point, going into

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the play offs under the radar or
are you better off going in on the

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road talking about playoffs. Playoffs?
Are we talking playoffs? Stop? Are

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you kidding? I said that earlier. I'm not even I get nervous.

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I really feel like it's it's it's
a sinking ship. Well, I know

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here's a's too dramatic, but it
feels that way. Peyton Manning and the

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Colts went through this. As he's
referencing Jim Morrow. When they went through

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that, what happened? Mora got
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Doungee was gonna fix the defense.
He was gonna let Manning and Tom Moore

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worry about the offense. Well,
right now, he got two sides of

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the ball that really need a lot
of work. And I bring it back

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to focus last week. They weren't
focused this week. And when you when

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you're star receiver, can't catch a
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you're trying to win, that's a
focus issue. Stupid penalties. He's diving,

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hits him in the hands, created
the ball into your body, use

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your body. He's made that catch
before. It looked like he had it

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looked were year we were I was
going crazy, a freaking great here we

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go. But if you're gonna blow
up McDermott, what are you going to

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bring in? I'm not saying.
I'm not saying. I'm saying this is

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like mirroring what the Colts were going
through back quack An He's not He's not

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the guy they got fight. He
and Dorsey, not Dorsey. He and

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the general manager being Billy almost a
Billy bean brand Brandon. They've signed like

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five year contract contract. How many
hockey Yeah, they've dismissed, They've dismissed

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so many Sweet Sea Sweet executives.
Terry's not going to just throw money down

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into a knowing that situation all too
well, that type of money, that

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money doesn't factor into any of the
decisions Terry Bigill is going to make about

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Sean McDermot and Brandon bean I think
what what for me with Terry? If

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I were the owner, what I
would call in is I would call Brandon

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Bean in and I would call it, call Sean McDermott into the room,

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and I would say, you've got
to fix this, Sean, you got

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to call these guys out. They're
not performing. When Terry built his empire

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in terms of the gas and oil
expirations, Terry did it on his own

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with a couple of key people that
performed, and when he didn't perform,

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Terry called them out. But that's
what it takes, right, it is

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what it takes. But it's an
uncomfortable thing, and that it feels like

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nobody very uncomfortable. Nobody feels that
kind of Well. The other thing toolls

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to me, if McDermott hasn't been
doing it, go ahead, No McDermott.

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If he hasn't been doing that all
along, And I've never seen him

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lose I've heard of him losing it
on media members and behind closed doors,

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and I can show you the text
to prove that. But when it comes

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to the team, when you don't
lose it, all of a sudden you

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start to lose it, no one's
gonna believe you because your character from your

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past is gonna give you away.
So it's not like he could just walk

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in and become Mike Ditko or Bob
Knight or anybody like that. It's not

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authensic. Your quarterback's got to do
that. But he hasn't done it either,

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So who's gonna be Who's gonna do
it? They just got to just

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play better and So for me,
it's for me from a leadership role.

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In the way I look at him
from a business perspective is is either Brandon

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Bean's got to become the bad guy
or Terry got to become the bad guy.

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Terry, Terry, he's the only
he's got to become the bad guy

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because he won't in my office,
but he can in my office. In

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my office, there's one bad guy. His name is gret To Military Tom

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is actually a very good guy,
believe tot. He does bring the donuts

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and and he brings the fun.
And you know, when when ship happens,

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there's got to be a bad guy, and people rally around a common

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enemy. Who's the common enemy on
the bills right now there isn't one.

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And they're by the way, which
means everybody by the way, there's spir

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This is a spiral right now,
they're spiraling. I agree, I worry.

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So who's the you rally in those
situations around a common enemy. Who's

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the common enemy? It used to
be the Patriots, Yeah, you used

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to be. It's now it's the
Dolphins. But they don't play the Dolphins

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until the last game of the year. I think you're kind of you have

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to treat every team come in the
rest of the season like they're the Kansas

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City Chiefs. Yeah, because that's
that's really ultimately, You're just gonna give

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you the focus. Who's gonna who's
gonna demand the attention of that? I

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get that. Yeah, is it
gonna be Josh, is gonna be Terry's

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gonna be me? Sean mcderm because
Sean McDermott hasn't done it. I mean,

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look, one of the things I
used to love about John Gruden and

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criticized Gruden all you want, when
he brought the intensity and and what brought

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the Bucks from You know you you
you had a phenomenal, wonderful coach.

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Tony he couldn't get him over there. You know the story, right,

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you know the story about Gruden,
how he you want him over They're in

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training camp, so Tony Dunge used
to come, anything I can do to

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make your camp a little bit better, Warren Sapp, I'll do it whatever

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you need, right, So he's
like, it's what's a Warren Sapp's telling

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this story right in the that America
his game and the Bucks won the Super

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Bowl. So then here walks Cruden, right, and they run this play

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uh in practice the first training camp
practice, and they runs a bootleg for

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a touchdown and Warren Sap starts yelling
at John and Gruden goes, well,

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you gotta pull a trick play and
practice, and Cruden gets in his face

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because they ran boot on you nine
times and beat you last year, you're

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gonna finally stop that play. All
of a sudden, SAP's like, whoa,

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I'm not dealing with Tony Dungee anymore, am I. I'm dealing with

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a guy who's like a hard ass, and then all of a sudden who

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had the information right, he was
overly prepared, always he was. And

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by the way, he's a prick
and everybody can't stand him. There's a

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bunch of bad stories in order to
win an order to become six. Look,

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Elon Musk is a prick too,
Yeah, but to get where he

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is you got to be a bit
of a pres well. I think this

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story on Gruden was when he was
with Green Bay. He would ride his

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bike in at three o'clock in the
morning and sometimes have just a giant file

408
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of all the plays and stuff.
And I think he was a quarterbacks coach.

409
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Maybe he was a quarterbacks coach.
Yeah he wasn't a coordinator. No,

410
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no, he was not. He
was still working his way up at

411
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the time, but overly like so
prepared, always prepared. But that's what

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457
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Kevin, Kevin, he hasn't said
anything. You're trying to make a story

458
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out of nothing. Order been Why
haven't you said anything? Like? I

459
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figured for sure you were to glow
because he sent me something saying I wouldn't

460
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,000
care if we win two and fifteen
this season as long as we win today.

461
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,440
And by the way, you just
lost your first first pick of your

462
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,680
first round draft last year. Your
quarterback you want is now gone because you

463
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,839
won this game. So f Bill
Belichi. Now the Bears are winning games

464
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:02,960
too, So are they really?
Yeah? The Bear? I think the

465
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,759
Bears won today. Yeah, they
smoked the Raiders. The Bears. Really,

466
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960
we just need the Panther just start
winning out again. The Bears the

467
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,960
Bear's theory. So the rumor this
morning was I don't know if you heard

468
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,839
this no, which is kind of
silly after us. But the story is

469
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,680
that Lincoln Riley is ready for the
NFL. He and Caleb Williams can go

470
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200
to Chicago together. They'll get eber
flues out as the head coach, and

471
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160
then they get the second pick,
which would be Marvin Harrison Junior out of

472
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,200
Ohio State. That could be potentially
day by the way he depends today by

473
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,720
himself, Yes he did, because
that was it. That was it.

474
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,400
But Williams wants ownerships take wherever,
which they're never gonna get it. That's

475
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,559
the NFL said the wish. First
of all, they ruled it out.

476
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:55,279
And now no owner, no businessman, is ever going to give equity to

477
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,559
it to anyone who has improved themselves. Period. Have you met anybody left

478
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,799
the last night of Davis? He
probably would. No, he would not.

479
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,480
You know why because he's croaking old
man. Yeah, paid life dearly

480
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,799
to get that equity ownership. And
I've met Mark Davis, and Mark Davis

481
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:15,400
is a bit of a funny,
fluky guy. But one thing he understands

482
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,440
is money. Yeah, and by
the way, haircuts. But this is

483
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,759
it, this is what the killer
when he asked about the equity thing.

484
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,960
So I did again having my interest
in the bills and all that. So

485
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,759
you sell a team, so the
Raiders franchise, bring up Mark Davis is

486
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,720
at four billion dollars. Yeah,
one percent. Yeah, one percent of

487
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:45,279
that team million is forty million dollars. Forty millions. That's more than his

488
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,480
That's more than most freaky contractor how
much is Brady trying to get with the

489
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,880
raiders they have they sent how much
percentage? Yeah, he was looking at

490
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,240
two and a half percent, but
he but he bought it though, or

491
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,000
he's trying to buy it's yeah,
yeah, it's understanding. But I'm just

492
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,480
one hundred million. It's like one
hundred million dollars, which is and again,

493
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,079
I mean one hundred million has a
shitload of money. But Mark davis

494
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:13,920
whole thing is that, I mean, you want the money, but you

495
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640
know, saving that and having that
and building the equity and developing your team

496
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,279
and generating the revenue out of the
two and a half percent of your net

497
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,799
profit is where you get your money. And you know how much as long

498
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,079
is it gonna take you to make
that money back? There is not a

499
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,440
chance in hell that one NFL owner, uh, the nim nod out out

500
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,680
of Washington that just got Dan Schuiderider
I jokingly said he might be one who'd

501
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,960
be it because he's such a nim
nod. But you know, he was

502
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,880
so driven based on money that I
don't think even he would do it.

503
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:50,559
There's nobody's going to give anybody ownership
interest. There's a rookie by the way

504
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,799
there, just give him stock options. The NFL is actually growing, which

505
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,680
is worth nothing. The NFL is
actually growing into some dangerous territory. And

506
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,599
here's what I mean. You see
what's happened in baseball, right, Baseball

507
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,720
outs core per ownership well teams.
Basically in baseball, corporate corporations who are

508
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:06,079
like you know, are on the
index and the S and P and all

509
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,119
that stuff. When they own teams, they're all about the bottom line.

510
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,559
So they could put a crap product
and just pull a profit. Right.

511
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,160
The NFL has never wanted that.
The problem is, these NFL teams are

512
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,000
more and more expensive every year,
Like the days of Terry Pagola buying a

513
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:21,519
team for one point four million or
billion billion, let's say now it's now

514
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,079
the bills are probably worth around three
or four and that price is only going

515
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:28,279
to continue to go up. And
now you need thirty percent ownership in cash

516
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,319
to own the team. That's gonna
be les and less. You're gonna start

517
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,240
to see corporate in the NFL all
corporations to buy teams, and then we're

518
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,599
gonna have a problem because the quality
play is gonna go down. I don't

519
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,559
think so. You don't think so. I don't think so. To be

520
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,839
ownership groups, yeah, I don't
think so. Well they have if you

521
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:47,039
have a corporate I mean Denver well, yeah, cash though, yes.

522
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Well. The other thing is that
the NFL limits the number of minority owners.

523
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,039
Yeah, and they do that because
I mean, legally, you own

524
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:59,839
one percent, you can f everything
up for the majority owners. Yeah.

525
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:01,160
All you got to do is have
a stake in the outcome and say that

526
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:07,759
somebody is wasting assets and depleting assets
and not preserving their their interest and then

527
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,480
you can make like freaking hell for
them. And that's why that's why Terry

528
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,280
and Kimpagola owned this team one hundred
percent. There's no minority owner. I've

529
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,840
asked you have. There's no owners, and they will they will not have

530
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,679
minority owners. It wasn't the former
team president, because there was always I

531
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:27,199
just want to clean because there was
a rumor that Ralph left his designated grandson

532
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,440
a piece of the team when he
died. That's not true. Well,

533
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,480
he may have he was a managing
partner at one point. He may have.

534
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:37,800
But when the Pagoulas bought the bought
the franchise from the estate, they

535
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:45,920
purchased it and there are no the
Pagoulas own this team one. Yeah,

536
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:51,719
despite my my ask and there and
there's you know, Jim asked a lot

537
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920
of people gunderson Is that wanted to
get in on it, and they don't

538
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,760
want to have to Kim and Terry
said, we're good. I had four

539
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,039
dollars almost five. I think that, I mean, what how do you

540
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,360
feel about that? I could see
where why it would be beneficial, Well,

541
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,719
I could see why it would be
beneficial to not have to listen to

542
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:14,079
Kelvin's bullshit about this. No.
No, that's the thing. But these

543
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,079
teams is they get more and more
expensive, right, you know, the

544
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,039
ownership stake is going to that you
have to have with cash lower and lower.

545
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:25,320
The fact that you could get one
hundred million dollars for two percent for

546
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,039
two percent, God, and you're
going to make money on that hundred million,

547
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:35,679
yeah, you know. And so
for and from the Pakools perspective is

548
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,400
that their whole point was like,
look, we don't need the money.

549
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,920
No, and so, but we
want to do it our way. Yeah,

550
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,119
and if you give somebody one percent
interest, they can f up your

551
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:52,199
way. Who wants that headache?
I wouldn't definitely wouldn't know. I'd like

552
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,800
to be that headache. But no, I put down I haven't got one

553
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,760
percent. Imagine wait, but could
you imagine if Greg had one percent of

554
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,719
the bills right now? Oh my
gosh, Cherry Jones, he be Jerry

555
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Jones. He'd be down on the
field. He'd be yelling, who's this

556
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,760
guy? Oh? That's one percent
owner? Could you get a meeting as

557
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,440
a one percent owner? Could you
have a meeting with McDermott and tell yeah,

558
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,639
you could get And if they didn't
get one, I'd see him for

559
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:22,079
it. I would sue him.
We walk in. Okay, you're damn

560
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:27,840
right now. Funny how one?
I mean? But one percent percent it's

561
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,320
minile school, it's nothing, but
in cost astronomical they can be huge astronomical.

562
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,880
That's crazy, which is why Tim
and carry Tim and Kim and Terry

563
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,360
wouldn't give me one percent of the
process, because because I would fucking lose

564
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360
my ship right now, And I
would say, would I would want to

565
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,039
talk to Ken Dorsey first and then
I want to talk to you. It's

566
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:52,280
it's funny because you watch guys like
Magic Johnson, who's got like ownership in

567
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,639
the in the Dodgers, the Dodgers, he's got ownership and uh, I

568
00:36:55,639 --> 00:37:00,400
think the Washington Washington, Yes he
does. Yeah. So, and you

569
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,599
wonder, like when they have these
meetings and stuff. Look, look who's

570
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,480
the uh what's his name? The
Dwarkins have a percentage of the Sacrament of

571
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,599
Respects and they get to go to
the meetings and things. Yeah, so

572
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,400
anytime there's some kind of meaning.
And I think their percentage is fairly small,

573
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,400
but it's but it gets you a
seat at the table for they're anywhere

574
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,519
from two to five. Yeah,
what I recall, Right, so a

575
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,639
fairly small percentage of the team,
but yet you're in there for meetings.

576
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,159
To your point, you could really
create some headaches for people. Right now,

577
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,559
I can make a lot of Yeah, right now. I think the

578
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:38,360
Buffalo Bills need somebody that's going to
create headaches. I think we found them.

579
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,119
They Hey, can I buy a
percentage of your percentage? They need

580
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:47,679
create headaches. I'm on the board
behind the the board by the board.

581
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,880
It's like the play PlayStation. Oh
yeah, well, it's gonna be an

582
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,519
interesting week. What happens interesting week? Yes, four days, this is

583
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:04,280
what I'm saying. That's why.
But it's always interesting when the Bills lose.

584
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,760
Isn't it not the Bills? Any
team that loses right when all of

585
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
a sudden, if you're a fan
of that team, how your whole week

586
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:14,320
gets shaped by this? You watch
Dallas fans, you watch anybody. But

587
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,840
this week is it's a short week. You're going into it. I mean,

588
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,159
you're gonna be up at the game
Thursday night. I will, You'll

589
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,480
be down on the field, you'll
try to find McDermott, you'll get in

590
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:25,079
a zero litit. It will be
great. Tell that you're one I'm almost

591
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,760
that you're one percent owner. The
one good thing is it's a short week.

592
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,199
Well that is I have least time
to lament over the debacle that occurred

593
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,400
in the fourth quarter. Isn't it
something like Okay, let's say the Bills

594
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,719
lose today. You kind of get
over it by Tuesday, but then it

595
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,039
kind of rears its ugly head again
by Thursday, and by Friday, and

596
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,760
then Saturday, you're kind of on
pins and needles. Thinking, is this

597
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,400
team going to figure it out?
At least that's how I feel. I

598
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,119
feel like by the midweek that Tuesday, Wednesday, it's all right, we

599
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,559
kind of move on Thursday. Now
the games start again. Granted they're playing

600
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:01,400
this Thursday, but let's say they
weren't. You start to then you know,

601
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,800
you're making your picks. You start
to worry. You start reading more.

602
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,440
Now that it's like everybody's writing before
the game. You're reading. The

603
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,280
Athletic comes out with more stuff keys
to the game. Everybody's got their keys

604
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239
to the game, and it rears
its ugly head and it like ruins your

605
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,519
entire week. Okay, so I
don't know about your listeners, but this

606
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,280
is the way I look at it. I need a therapy session. Fortunately

607
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,679
tonight this is my therapy session.
You're saving like two hundred and fifty bucks

608
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:31,559
on my therapist, so you can
put that twitch your bills, you tomorroshw.

609
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:35,280
We're in therapy, all dead at
the bottom. Oh my god.

610
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Yeah, I'm gonna have probably a
little bit more therapy later uh tomorrow.

611
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:42,360
You know. Normally I like vet
through it. I talk about the game

612
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,039
all day and then I try to
work through it. So Tuesday, I'm

613
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,000
better, and then Wednesday I start
to think, Okay, look, I

614
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,360
gotta look to Wednesday, right,
so next week is normal? Okay if

615
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,800
the Bucks were a Sunday game and
be like, Okay, Wednesday, I

616
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,920
look at the Bucks and then I
think about the Bucks and I do my

617
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480
research. I look at it and
I think about what's going on. So

618
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,719
then I'm distracted from the last game
until Friday. Until Friday, and then

619
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,960
it starts to rear its ugly.
And then Friday I start to reflect,

620
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:08,960
yes, about where we were,
where we're going, and then I'll go

621
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,000
back and watch the all twenty two? Do you I don't have to all

622
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,599
twenty two? How is that possible? You must if you have read Zone

623
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,519
I think I do. Gil Plus
Yeah, I don't know's a ticket?

624
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,519
Why? Because I'm I'm working too
much. I don't have to. I

625
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:28,880
don't even have the time to figure
it out. Somebody's getting I need somebody

626
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:35,159
that can Tomorrow, God figure this
out for me. Who's gonna get getting

627
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:39,400
fired around first? But so that's
Friday, I begin to reflect back on

628
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,440
the last week, and then I
get all worked up. I get him

629
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,440
the Saturday and then I watched the
Penn State gamesday wins. I then look,

630
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,239
I'm like, I bounce back to
the forward. If they lose like

631
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,199
yesterday, I just lament on the
bad I felt bad for that. Is

632
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,000
this the first the first year quarterback? Yeah, well he's a sophomore,

633
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:06,639
first year started, first year.
I'm looking at that stadium yesterday. I

634
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,760
mean, you are a sea of
red. It's just an awful environment.

635
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,079
I go, boy, how do
you go from? I mean, really,

636
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,679
the last time you were starting games, you were in high school.

637
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:22,440
Now you're here and granted you're at
the Horseshoe, but people that just could

638
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,960
you imagine like we all as fans, but try to put yourself in that.

639
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,400
I go, boy, that is
a that's a learning curve like I've

640
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,480
never seen. To me. The
closest thing to getting that college having been

641
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,360
at Penn State for the white out
games and all that in the Michigan House,

642
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,639
Michigan Penn State game. The closest
environment you can get to that in

643
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:47,280
the NFL is being in Philadelphia as
a visiting team. Oh, because the

644
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,079
visiting the Philadelphia fans are the worst
in the NFL. That the most abusive,

645
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:58,840
that the most violent, they're the
most obnoxious fans of NFL the VET

646
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960
they may be the worst of all
any true the hooligans of Europe, I

647
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,039
don't. I think the Eagles fans
can compare. Maybe it gets pretty ugly

648
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:10,519
over there, but when you think
about it, and in the NFL,

649
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,880
you know, you go to a
Bills game, You've got seventy five percent

650
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,199
eighty percent Bills fans, right,
and then the others And Bills fans in

651
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,639
Buffalo are one of the top five
worst stadiums to visit as an await team.

652
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,159
Yeah, oh terrible. But but
when you go to Penn State,

653
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:36,280
it's ninety percent five percent Penn State
students, family alums. Yeah, that's

654
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,800
it. And it's a much more
collegial environment. It's not as abusive as

655
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,119
you go to Philadelphia. We go
to Philadelphia, we go there in what

656
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,440
four weeks five weeks now. People
say you're gonna go to the game.

657
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,320
I'm like, if I go to
the game, I'm wearing green because I

658
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,239
don't want to get hurt. Right, it's rough for outsiders. I know

659
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,159
it is. Ron Lady video to
herself going in in Minnesota gear, and

660
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,519
I actually thought it was fairly mild
for Philadelphia and people were commenting like crazy,

661
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:09,559
but I saw the video. There
was no nothing outlandish, nothing,

662
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,440
I mean being in Columbus. And
keep in mind he grew up like yeah

663
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,199
from that and he was abused even
more sure he was. He was getting

664
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,960
all kinds of social media harassments and
threats, and his family was. This

665
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,840
is where it's so hard now because
so much of our life has lived here.

666
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,320
And I used to always ask the
bills and which really when you think

667
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,440
back when we were doing training camp
and stuff, Danny, it was so

668
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:38,920
early in social media. But I
would always say, you have now a

669
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,119
way to get right to the pocket
of the player. And who was it

670
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Watkins who snapped back at everybody walking. Let's go back to like working,

671
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,920
y'all's crashing, wrapping, crappy jobs, crappy jobs and crushing rocks or do

672
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,239
whatever you do it, you know
what I mean, because you lose it

673
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,840
after a while and we we hear
about, you know, all the social

674
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,599
media stuff. And that's where I
think one of the first things if any

675
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,599
anybody makes some money, hire somebody
to handle your social media and get it.

676
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,639
Just do not handle it now.
I mean I get it for branding,

677
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:08,840
and you need that sort of thing, but don't go near. But

678
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,719
you're young. You got more testosterone
than probably most people on the planet.

679
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,679
That's why you're playing one of the
toughest games. And you're gonna tell me

680
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,880
I couldn't handle it. I'd be
out of my mind? Do you be

681
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,000
out of my mind? Do you
really think that those guys had more testosterone

682
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,360
than you? I think that I
do for some reason I watch now.

683
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,480
I don't know, because I will
say that, you know, if you

684
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:31,880
get into those exhilarating you know,
things that get your adrenaline pumping, right,

685
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,639
I don't know whatever that is at
whatever age you're at. It's all

686
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,440
it's different for everybody. But you
know, like if I get to go

687
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:42,039
race a car, I'm buzzing for
the next couple of hours after that,

688
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,119
and I remember what's his name?
With some of the players talking about how

689
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:50,440
they would go to Toronto after a
one o'clock game to the casinos because they

690
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,280
were open later and just to blow
off steam because they're adrenaline was pumping.

691
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,960
I don't know. I think I
sometimes think you have to, don't you

692
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:02,239
a little bit? Like more testosterone
than the rest of the planet. Uh

693
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:07,119
percentage, maby, I don't know. I don't know. I I get

694
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:15,000
so freaking I think it's more for
me. You know, as we get

695
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,400
older, we get we have more
life experience, we get more perspective.

696
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,599
Yes, and so we can regulate
wisdom, we can regulate. Yes,

697
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,480
So I get I can't regulate.
He came out during the fourth quarter and

698
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:29,639
that last drive, and I thought
he was gonna punch me in the face.

699
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,079
I run outside of me by myself. I tried to kick Danny out.

700
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,559
There comes Craig walk and I'm like, gonna punch me. No ways,

701
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,119
twenty years ago, I may have, but I'm matured. Would have

702
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,880
been so funny if you tackled him
into the pool person of a one of

703
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,000
these. The first thing I thought
of when the freaking Bills blewed on on

704
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,880
uh when when when the Patriots scored, was I'm a fucking tackle Kevin.

705
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:57,320
And then I was like, ah, yeah, I'm not gonna do that.

706
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,000
I would have would have fucking form
tack of it. It's brought right

707
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:08,880
in with my arm off level challenge
with the cornhole again. I would have

708
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,519
laid my hand upon his forehead t
play I played cornal. I want to

709
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:16,199
freaking hurt people. I played in
front of the goddamn bag I lose.

710
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:22,320
I want to hoop a board.
Yeah, the testospital level, I think.

711
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,719
I don't know. There's medical professional
that will tell me I'm wrong.

712
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:29,880
But I still have I still get
that drive. I just I temper it

713
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,039
because I know the consequences. I
know I shouldn't do it. Because socially,

714
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,440
I've learned my parents. I mean, you know, my peers.

715
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:43,840
You showed me I shouldn't be that
way. Believe me. Someone showed up.

716
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,119
We had big tea here, little
tea here, and too much tea

717
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,679
over the Yeah, all right,
we'll take them all. When the Bills

718
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,480
played with low t when we come
back. Another sports figure being called out,

719
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:59,360
uh for a documentary that was made
about him. That's all over Netflix

720
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,519
right now, and we'll get into
it, and it kind of shows.

721
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:06,800
I had one feeling about it.
Then I had a step back and look

722
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,880
at it, and I went,
there's a double standard in society on this.

723
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,800
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com. Discussing so So Marble Kevin
I asked for it. Everybody Loves owner

756
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,559
of the film. Danny is a
singer. What happened to his voice over

757
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,360
the year? I mean it's bad. And then rock singers typically don't have

758
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,559
trained voices, so what happened?
They're not like you know, they're not

759
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:15,920
especially trained. So what happens is
when you years of excess like Samn Tyler

760
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,199
is a perfect example. It just
it just kills your voice. Well,

761
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:22,880
I think Steven Tyler sounded really good
for a long time. Even Mick right

762
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,239
bon Jovie all of a sudden,
I mean, in the last tour was

763
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,360
really bad. You know who sounds
bad? Axel Rowe, Axl Rose sounds

764
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,519
bad. Joe Elliott from def Leppard
sounds pretty bad. Yea. Vitch Deals

765
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:37,840
is the worst, though he's leader
in the Colubou seventy years old, I

766
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,840
know, But I'm talking about Mick
Jaggers eighty and I think he sounds he

767
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,440
sounds pretty good. He's outs all
right recorded. Yeah. Look, Tom

768
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,880
Brady was like fifty when he retired
last year. I mean, you have

769
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,519
an exception to every rule. Yeah, there is an exception. You're right,

770
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,239
that's the exception. Guys are seventy
you give the guy a break.

771
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,000
I don't know, although that song
sucks. I'm a mer jing you're I

772
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,599
mean, he's a pearl jam f
Eddie Vedder doesn't even sound like he used

773
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:06,519
to. I mean, he's a
baritone. That kind of just tells you

774
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,119
just years of just usage and not
taking care of your voice, that's what's

775
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:14,920
gonna happen. So I watched the
Beckham documentary. I don't know if anybody's

776
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,800
watched that on Netflix. It's actually
pretty good and it's interesting just about kind

777
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,800
of his life. You don't realize
what a big star he is. We

778
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,760
and I would always thought in the
United States we hold our athletes to a

779
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,760
higher standard than our politicians. Now
it's a global thing. I mean,

780
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,000
holy shit, they're I mean over
there, it's it's insane. Yeah.

781
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,760
And so when they go to the
World Cup, England goes to the World

782
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,360
Cup and he gets a red card
where it I mean even that they even

783
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,079
go and interview the player from uh. I don't think it was Argentina.

784
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:51,119
Maybe it was it was the South
American team that they He basically says,

785
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:53,800
I flopped. He's like, I
flopped, He goes, I totally took

786
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,400
a die, but it looked like
it would be a yellow card. If

787
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,719
anything, he gets a red card, he's ejected from the game. They

788
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,840
wind up losing in a shootout.
And I mean, he couldn't go anywhere

789
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,239
that he wasn't getting spit on and
shit thrown at. And he's twenty three

790
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,960
years old. Imagine that at twenty
three years old. So this talt documentary

791
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,960
and then he went. He goes
in. He plays for Real Madrid,

792
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,400
which is the team he wanted to
and while he was there, it starts

793
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,360
coming out that he had an affair, and it's headlines everywhere all over the

794
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,719
place. They do. He was
married at the time, yes to Pash

795
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Yes, and they had kids,
and she was still over in England.

796
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:42,000
She hadn't made the move to Spain
yet And so he doesn't deny it,

797
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,320
but doesn't really talk about it.
It's just that was a private issue.

798
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:51,920
So now the woman that had the
affair is coming out and talking about it

799
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
and yeah, and this is the
thing that I go, okayosh, she's

800
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,920
got the piss Well I don't know, she said, she yeah, because

801
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:06,519
he's he is the owner of the
Miami soccer team rights owner. Yeah,

802
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:07,920
yeah, yeah, I don't know
what percent. He was a player who

803
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
got partial ownership. Yes, he
is what we talked about, just the

804
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,280
segment. But I think he got
partial ownership then, well only after Yeah,

805
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,239
so by the negotiation. Yeah,
I think has probably, But again

806
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,280
this is the guy. But at
this time, he had been playing soccer

807
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,000
for like fifteen years at the highest, ultimate, highest level. He's like

808
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,840
the Lebron James and Michael Jordan.
When he came and played for the LA

809
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,320
Galaxy, I don't know what.
I think that was a two hundred and

810
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,679
twenty five million dollar twenty five and
the league helped kick in the money for

811
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,559
Yeah, but I don't think he
had any ownership past his prime. But

812
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:45,679
the bad part there is that some
of the other guys are making eighteen grand

813
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:51,440
in MLS or less. Okay,
no one's coming over. Well they suck.

814
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,480
It's what you bring to the one
hundred percent. I agree with you,

815
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:59,079
and I never Poshpice didn't divorce him
because what he brought to the table.

816
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:01,199
Well, okay, so we don't. He says, no, you

817
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:07,840
no, no, that's she says. This woman says in there that she

818
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:14,880
she feels like he's misleading people in
some way. The person the affairs,

819
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:21,679
Beckham. David Beckham is misleading people
about the affair, and she says and

820
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,199
I guess her social media blew up. Now she's not named in the documentary.

821
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,039
They never say who it is.
It's just that people. I mean,

822
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,559
this is my question. So I
got at first, I started to

823
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,639
have a real problem with this.
I go, why is she even coming

824
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:38,039
out and saying anything. She's married, she lives in Norway, her husband's

825
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,920
a doctor, she's got two kids. She's saying that her kids at any

826
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,239
point can go look up stuff on
the documentary. She wants Beckham to own

827
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,480
this, to own what say my
name? Well, I don't know.

828
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,119
But the other side of this was
I started to think, I go,

829
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:58,599
we have a double standard in the
world. I think when it comes to

830
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:02,159
affairs that no matter what I mean. The joke from Chris Rock always was

831
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,519
a man is only as faithful as
his options. So that was the job.

832
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:09,480
I mean, he did that on
the stage. A man is only

833
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:13,199
as faithful as his options. So
then we put all the owners. Then

834
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,440
is on the woman. But Beckham
was the one who was married. This

835
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:21,239
woman wasn't at the time, she
wasn't married, so why why would she?

836
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,360
I don't So the question I would
have is if she said, if

837
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,880
what she said? What you just
said? She says, and I also

838
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,920
have a family, and I also
have children, and they also have Google

839
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,719
and they can also watch documentaries.
And all I want them to know is

840
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,280
that their mother was brave enough to
stand up against them and to stand up

841
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,159
for the truth. So what is
the truth? I mean did she say?

842
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:45,519
Did she say? I mean,
look, if she were single and

843
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:50,440
she was twenty, whatever the relationship
was, and she was with him,

844
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,440
why is she not? I mean, I mean she made a conscious decision,

845
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:58,639
as did he. Truth is,
his decision was worse than hers.

846
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,679
Yeah, his decisions were worse than
hers in my opinion. Yes, because

847
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:06,760
he's married and had kids. Right, I agree, So why would I

848
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,400
mean that's well, he said,
that's a him issue, not a her

849
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,440
issue. He said, I don't
know how he got through it. He

850
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,760
says this in the documentary. David
Beckham, in regards to the affair and

851
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:20,400
dealing with Victoria, said I don't
know how we got through it. Uh,

852
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,559
And then he said between him and
his wife, Yeah, he said,

853
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,159
I don't know how we got I'm
guess five hundred million reasons. How

854
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:30,239
they well, at one point they
go, she was pretty success, so

855
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,360
she could have said fu, she
was successful in her own right, right,

856
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:37,440
and now I think has one of
the biggest, most expensive clothing lines

857
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:39,800
in the world. Let you go
further to Victoria Beck, what's that you

858
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:45,239
go further together? Though, Yeah, I agree, So that's the right

859
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,639
partnership. You Well, here's the
thing that's so tough, is like they

860
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,760
I mean, we think the paparazzis
here. You know, in the break

861
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:55,719
we were talking to your cousin and
he said something about TMC and I said,

862
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,760
you know, like I'm not a
big fan of the paparazzi type shit

863
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,719
because I always think that it's a
little intrusive. You got to see what

864
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,639
it is in England. I mean, it is absolute and crazy in Saturday.

865
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,000
I mean, we watched what happened
with princes walked around the street,

866
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:19,000
but that was the police. But
they were they were so right up to

867
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:23,199
In the documentary, David is playing
for real Madrid. He and Victoria go,

868
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:27,480
this is after the affair, after
all the headlines and everything. They

869
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,599
go to the Swiss Alp for some
ski vacation. They can't even walk out

870
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:37,719
the front door of their ski chalet
without paparazzi right there snapping photos. It

871
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,519
reminds me of Bill Moan about a
year ago. I remember we did it

872
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,000
from his table. We were in
the board. It psyched him out.

873
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:55,159
It was the condes retreat of the
kitchen. Uh. But that I I

874
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:58,800
was looking at this two ways,
because you know, she's saying, I

875
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,960
have a family. I want them
to know. I don't know what that

876
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:05,119
is. What would that be in
her mind that this has to come out.

877
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Her name is never mentioned in the
document. It's not she ever talked

878
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,280
about like she was in the press. She had to be her name is.

879
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:19,199
Her last name is loose l o
O. S is that her or

880
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,400
her maid? But her? Because
she didn't get mentioned paid that's what it

881
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,920
is. Yeah, he says,
I understand he has an image, he

882
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:34,480
image to preserve, but he is
portraying himself as the victim and he's making

883
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:37,320
me look like a liar. And
he never says anything. He just says

884
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:42,079
what most people should say about an
affair. None of your business is between

885
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,639
me and my wife. I would
think that that seems like a pretty valid

886
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:51,599
answer to anybody, know anybody in
an explanation, but I mean, look,

887
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,639
I can only offer you from a
male's perspective. Me too, That's

888
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:59,159
why. And I've never been in
the David Beckham side of it, so

889
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,519
I don't as it. I mean, if you if you're not guilty of

890
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:09,599
the accusation in my opinion, Again, I'm not David Beckham size, but

891
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:13,639
I would deny it. I would
say, you know, like it's damn

892
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,639
business. And I mean this was
like every I mean, I mean,

893
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:22,880
look, I've been look, you
and Kevin Dan, you guys are all

894
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,239
big popular guys, and I'm sure
people always talk about you. And certain

895
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,639
times people tell stories really aren't true
and may be true in their mind,

896
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:37,480
but in other people's reality it's like
not true, but it's funny, and

897
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,559
people like Glant and then then they
give their own version of it, and

898
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:43,519
then their own version of it's told
and next thing, you know, the

899
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:46,119
story that actually occurred is so different
than the reality of it, and you're

900
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,719
just like, are you affing kidding
me? People know who I am.

901
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:57,679
It's this woman and is basically saying
in the documentary, she feels like it's

902
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:01,639
made to look like she made victorious
offer she's the reason it's his issue.

903
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:05,599
Wow. See that's just the thing. But I think that that's a societal

904
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:07,960
thing. I think that most times
when there's an affair, we look at

905
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,960
the woman as the bad person.
I mean, look at Bill Clinton and

906
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,679
uh oh, Monica Monica Lewinsky,
and she was a young twenty three year

907
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:22,039
old girl who knew no different,
and she was she's the one that man

908
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:24,920
she got like, I mean,
blasted everywhere? Or did we not?

909
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:31,559
It's called a Lewinsky? Do we
not give oral sex a whole new name?

910
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,039
It was her last name. Yeah, I didn't give it that name,

911
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:37,840
but no, but I mean people
did, Yeah, people did.

912
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,039
And that's all I'm saying is it's
like a double standard. Boy, I

913
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:46,039
guess we really do in a way
make the woman the villain. The villain

914
01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:50,239
villain, Yeah, the villain as
opposed to the guy, as opposed to

915
01:00:50,239 --> 01:00:52,039
the guy who's just as guilty,
if now worse. Well, the guy

916
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:55,480
is definitely worse. And as a
man, I hate saying that it's one

917
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:59,199
time women need to step up because
men are guilty for everything else, so

918
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:01,719
women to step up on this one
here, Well, you know, and

919
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,239
I guess it's like, who's reporting
it? How are they reporting? Right?

920
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,679
I think if you had a woman
reporting it as opposed to men back

921
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:13,280
in back in the back, in
the Clinton times, it was predominantly men

922
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,599
in the industry, and so their
reporting of it was slanted, probably because

923
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:21,039
they're trying to protect and preserve their
own right. Yeah, it wasn't a

924
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:22,480
ken of Starr who was going after
Clinton, but he had a he had

925
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,960
an a fair himself. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, you know,

926
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:30,360
I think that was another I think
that was around Chris Rock had a special

927
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,480
back then, and I think he
did a whole thing on how Hillary really

928
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,480
dropped the ball and it was her
fault that the affair, and she should

929
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:42,880
have just said to her, hey
you can, you can tickle his balls.

930
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,599
But I got this that was so
Yeah, I think it was.

931
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,400
I think it was Bigger, Badder
Blacker was the name of the special.

932
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,000
Yeah, if you go back and
look it up, he had a whole

933
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:57,599
This is definitely a topic that needs
a woman's perspective, Okay, definitely.

934
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,639
Yeah. I can't offer that,
no, because I am I am.

935
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,639
I look at it from the perspective
of, well, I'm just looking at

936
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,280
it as a guide. I tried
to step back because at first, I'm

937
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,760
going, what is this broad doing. Why is she saying anything? Who

938
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:15,039
cares? No, your name was
never mentioned, all right, so you

939
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:19,320
know it and he knows it,
But why what are you trying to extract

940
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,639
from the other side. You can't
get an indorsement without your name being on

941
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:27,519
the other side of it. I
thought there is a weird thing here that

942
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,039
we make it all about their fault. There's definitely a double stand Yeah,

943
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:35,519
I mean yeah, but I think
that I think it's starting to slide as

944
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:42,599
much back the other direction, the
other direction than anything I mean in not

945
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,559
that it shouldn't because I think men, I mean, look, we live

946
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:51,440
in a male dominated world, whether
you're in law, whether you're in medical,

947
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:55,159
whether you're in you know, general
business. It's a government, it's

948
01:02:55,159 --> 01:03:01,599
a male dominated field, and so
you know, women have a lot to

949
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:07,599
overcome and and we need to police
ourselves and make better. Well. See,

950
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:10,440
that's the thing is double standard,
there is. There would be some

951
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,280
people that would get upset though that. Let's say a woman came in here

952
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,639
and she started to flirt with Dan
knowing Dan's married, and then if Dan

953
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,840
falls and Dan has a weak moment
then all of a sudden, is it

954
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,960
Dan's fault or is it her fault
or everybody's. Yeah, I would say

955
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,559
at that point I would go say, no, it's kind of kind of

956
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,880
on you. You you knew as
well. Yeah, No, it's it's

957
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:38,119
on everybody involved. Yeah. Look, it's once you get over the age

958
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:45,119
of twenty five, Yeah, and
you're married, you have every ownership and

959
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:46,920
the decisions that you make. I
don't care how good looking, I don't

960
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,679
care where the hell you are.
You know, Look, I've been in

961
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,199
Vegas, where you know, everything
happens in Vegas days in Vegas, you

962
01:03:53,239 --> 01:04:02,079
know what it doesn't especially so if
you make that decision, and David Beckham

963
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:05,880
made the decision, yes, he's
got to own it whatever it is.

964
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,159
I mean, now keep in mind
if he and Posh work it out and

965
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,800
and they work through that, you
know what, God blessed them. But

966
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,239
I mean, that's that's between that
that that's what I say too, I

967
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,199
should always do private, but that
it was just an interesting thing that I

968
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,519
saw. And look, guys that
are guys that are in the spotlight.

969
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:30,960
Yeah, there is a higher standard, or there's a higher ridicule of decisions

970
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,639
that they make. I mean guys
like you, guys like Kevin, your

971
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:42,559
decisions are ridiculed much more than the
guys who are working at Genesee Brewery putting

972
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,199
the hops and in the bar league. And which, by the way,

973
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:48,199
we should complain sometimes if they don't
get that ratio right, if they don't

974
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:50,840
get it right because they're flirting with
the girl next to him and they're having

975
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,880
an affair, that, yeah,
they should get ships. I think we're

976
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:00,079
I hate I hate putting everything on
society. But now everybody's got a phone,

977
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,159
right, so yes, everyone's got
a Twitter account or a Facebook account

978
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:09,199
where my opinion matters, and I'm
gonna critique everybody else. And it's like

979
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,000
just's just to gain some type of
I guess it's called social media cloud.

980
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,119
I don't know. It's ridiculous.
Everyone's got like a talk show on their

981
01:05:14,159 --> 01:05:16,199
phone and that's what they do.
And it's like everybody criticizes everything. Like

982
01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:19,599
it's like it's a sporting event.
We know, we can't play pro football.

983
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:23,000
That's the kind of the joke,
right, you can't. We can't.

984
01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:25,639
We watch it, we talk about
it, but everybody knows and the

985
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:28,760
players know that we're just like watching
it is entertainment when we're talking about other

986
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,840
people's lives and stuff, you know, like the Bible is a verse pick

987
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:33,559
pull the speck out of your own
eye before you get pointing the one in

988
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,679
somebody else's, and we don't do
that. Now. Now, now you're

989
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:39,639
a jerk. You're a jerk.
You're a jerk. Hey, look I'm

990
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:43,639
a deruk too, but you're a
bigger jerk. Now what did Jesus say,

991
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:45,800
turn the other cheek and look the
other way? Yeah? Right,

992
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,760
So what did Posh say about it? She has just said anything? Really,

993
01:05:57,679 --> 01:06:00,159
you said, it's in a in
a it's in the documentary. She

994
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:01,599
doesn't really say anything about it.
They kind of bring it up to David

995
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,519
and she just kind of remains quiet. She talks about that time, having

996
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:10,960
the headlines, being home with the
kids, uh, not being around,

997
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,159
you know, not being there,
so not knowing, but having the press

998
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,199
ask her questions, you know,
all the headlines things going on, and

999
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:23,559
then moving to Madrid and how uncomfortable
she felt. Well, I mean,

1000
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:25,719
when you think about it, because
you looking at her money in her twelve

1001
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,320
care diamond ring. I think there's
a song about that, you know,

1002
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,280
I think about it. You you
know, you think about the everyday person

1003
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,360
that lives in Rochester Monroe County,
and you know whether you're a husband or

1004
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,239
or a wife, and these things
happen in relationships. Yes, I didn't

1005
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,360
respond to that, And how you
respond to it is a reflection upon the

1006
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,000
circumstances why it happened, and then
where you're going to go from there?

1007
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:53,480
What is your goal? If your
goal is to stay married to the person

1008
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:58,159
that you fell in love with,
you will perhaps make decisions that other people

1009
01:06:58,159 --> 01:07:00,760
will never understand. I know people
is not to be married to that person

1010
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,159
and you don't want to be there. You'll use that as the end of

1011
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:06,400
this to move on. But you
know what, that's not I'm not here

1012
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,880
to say that's the right or wrong
decision. It's between you two. I

1013
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,800
mean, I don't give a shit
the uh. I know people who have

1014
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,039
had infidelity in their marriage and stayed
together. I do too, Yeah,

1015
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:20,559
and worked it out, And I
think to myself, what the fuck are

1016
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:24,079
they doing? Yeah, how could
you do that? I've thought that too,

1017
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:27,119
And then at the same time,
I think sometimes there's just so much

1018
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:30,400
invested in Maybe that's where citing circumstances, yeah, or somebody some maybe,

1019
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,519
or it could be the fact that
you really realize how much you love the

1020
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:36,679
other person and when a mistake you
made and they try to fix things I

1021
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:41,920
don't know, and the reasons why
the infidelity you've heard you know the circumstances

1022
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,280
behind it. But and again,
and I do believe that you can evolve

1023
01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:51,280
in through communication to to move past
it as long as you can ultimately trust

1024
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:56,159
that person and things have been changed. If that's the situation, right,

1025
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,559
But who am I to judge?
Who? I don't you know? Life

1026
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:02,960
is right? I mean I can't. Well, I think most people I

1027
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,559
grew up in horn On, New
York. I mean, everybody was blood

1028
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:10,840
related, some way related. Anyway, Sonier, that's all hell. But

1029
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,760
I think most people we worry that
all everybody's talking about this or everybody's thinking

1030
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,319
that. Well, think of who
is your everybody? Who's everybody? Most

1031
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:23,960
people move on, they got their
own ship. Believe me, everybody's dealing

1032
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,920
with stuff that You're not the center
of everybody's world. Cousin Tim is talking

1033
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,079
about it that mic. It's never
gonna stop. I'm gonna hear about it

1034
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:34,479
every fucking time. I say him. If he doesn't hear about it,

1035
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:40,560
then I'm fine. It doesn't it's
not really happening. We'll take a moment,

1036
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,439
we come back, we'll wrap it
up as we look ahead to the

1037
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,640
Bills and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
We got another football game. We got

1038
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,039
to talk about two more days A
well, we got another night. No

1039
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:58,119
Saturday, Oh Saturday, gotta play
football Saturday in Rochester, in Rochester,

1040
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,680
big got a big game coming to
Pittsford. That's right, what I don't

1041
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,800
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1072
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1073
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I am angry. I'm angry Mary Sean,

1074
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,199
this is uh. After listening to
the album about three times, I

1075
01:11:32,319 --> 01:11:36,199
think this is one of the better
songs. This the woman Lady Gaga.

1076
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,239
I like the second one too,
Yeah, and I'd like I do like

1077
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:43,520
the one that Keith sings on and
he sounds pretty good. Keith Richards.

1078
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,000
Yeah, I mean that's just here. I've listened. We'll play some of

1079
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,359
it later in the week. But
uh, there they've been everywhere, the

1080
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,520
Rolling Stones. I mean they're on
a media blitz like I haven't seen in

1081
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,239
a long time. Are they going
to be at high Mark this summer?

1082
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,079
Rumor is yes, but I have
seen nothing. I would love this of

1083
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:02,520
the Stones one time. Ever,
Seed, I don't know, I'm gonna

1084
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,680
have to maybe you'll have to make
a phone call. I think that may

1085
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:10,479
be happening, all right. And
what's cool is that though, Well,

1086
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,000
the thing is like I wonder if
it'll be I don't know if it'll if

1087
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:18,880
it'll be that low. That's the
question I have because they were supposed to

1088
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:25,479
come. The whole question visit at
that ticket price is is that what the

1089
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,000
market rate is? Or is that
the secondary market? I don't know.

1090
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:30,640
Like Taylor Swift, I mean Taylor
Swiss, whole thing is that her ticket

1091
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,960
pricing is. I mean, it's
it's high, but when when it goes

1092
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,159
to the secondary market, it goes
up on it's outrageous crazy. The uh

1093
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,880
the Stones were supposed to come.
They were playing and by the way,

1094
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,039
that's great marketing. It is great
market. So it's all marketing. So

1095
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,399
the uh, The Stones were coming
and Jordan was graduating high school. My

1096
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:56,920
high school graduation president was tickets to
see the Stones in uh October of eighty

1097
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,520
nine down to Chase Stadium. So
I thought, oh, well, my

1098
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:05,560
brother I take Yeah, my brother
and I were going to take him to

1099
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,680
the to the show, and they
were going for five hundred apiece. Holy

1100
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,800
yeah. And that was like upper
level and this was just a secondary market

1101
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:17,720
that way. I think that was
I think that was just I'm pretty sure

1102
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,000
that was going face value. The
issue is it's not a one hundred and

1103
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:26,039
twenty city tour. It's nine cities, and you're getting what you're getting.

1104
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:29,800
Yeah, so it tries a price
up like crazy. Yeah. And then

1105
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,520
they played a private show for Universal
employees in New York City in a small

1106
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,560
get and go. God, that
I would love. There's something to me

1107
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,239
about intimate settings. Yeah. I
like live entertainment, whether it be a

1108
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:49,760
play, a musical comedy, especially
in a small venue. To birthday.

1109
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:54,800
Yeah, you don't count on that
right here on the patio. Yeah,

1110
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,520
it's gotta be a little bigger show
than that. I think Mick was on

1111
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,520
Saturday night laugh. Last night they
did a I think it was Sister Act

1112
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:10,119
three, and he came out into
this who are you you, beautiful monster?

1113
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:15,119
This is bad bunny, bad bunny
musical act and energic. Yeah,

1114
01:14:15,119 --> 01:14:24,520
man, would you did? Here
comes Mack dressed in allyes and noun fuck.

1115
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:33,239
I confess it was me with the
one who corrupted these poor women with

1116
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:43,800
my lips and my literally with my
penn. He's eighty years old. Isn't

1117
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,920
it outrageous? I mean, you
start thinking about the number of people who

1118
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,760
didn't even make it that long,
you go, Holy God, and then

1119
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,119
Keith Richards is I will not make
it that long? Yeah, you will,

1120
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,920
well not if the bills. I
don't know about the people that are

1121
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,720
listening. But when we're watching in
that game at the end, in the

1122
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,119
fourth quarter, at the very end, I felt like a giraffe or a

1123
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:08,600
freaking elephant was sitting on my chest. You did say that? You did

1124
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,720
you come by and say that you
did say that? Yeah? Is that

1125
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,680
normal? I know I don't think
so. I don't think I don't think

1126
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,199
that is. But you work out
enough, if you take care of yourself.

1127
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,800
God, yeah, yeah. The
metabolism of like a twelve year old.

1128
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:25,760
I'm not allowed. Man, did
you work out today? I did?

1129
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:28,760
I did. I did it because
I knew it was gonna be.

1130
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,680
I was hoping it wouldn't be a
RESTful game, it wouldn't matter. I

1131
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,680
was like, if it is,
I want to make sure I have a

1132
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,960
cardio bask when you don't work out, can you feel it? Oh?

1133
01:15:36,039 --> 01:15:43,000
Yeah, you know it's noticeable,
right, noticeable? Yeah? Well,

1134
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:46,000
I just saw a thing with uh
Mark Wahlberg is coming out with his own

1135
01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:50,800
shoe now really Yeah. Municipal is
the name of I think his company,

1136
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,720
and they're coming out. They partnered
with something else, and he's on this

1137
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,079
big tour I saw. I don't
know where I stumbled on this. The

1138
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,840
guy is walking into a gym at
three thirty in the morning. Oh,

1139
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,359
it's insane. He so he works
out at three thirty. I'd be walking

1140
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:08,800
into the gym at three thirty coming
back from work. He was like,

1141
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,800
we got it. Eat on the
road by five point fifteen. He did.

1142
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,399
He He did work out of three
thirty. He did an ice bath

1143
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,279
for recovery. After that. He
does devotion and prayer every morning where he

1144
01:16:18,359 --> 01:16:23,880
sits and like the Rock does the
same thing the Rock does, and I

1145
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,399
think there's a the other one that
doesn't. They're up at like five o'clock.

1146
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,279
She said. I worked till eight
o'clock last night. This is what

1147
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:32,119
Mark Wahlberg said. And we're walking
into the gym at three thirty in the

1148
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,760
morning. Kobe was always one too. That was a story about Kobe at

1149
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,479
the Olympics. All the guys were
coming back to party, always going to

1150
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,479
the gym. I know, But
what time are they going to bed?

1151
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,399
That's my thing. That's yeah,
because like you can't just like sacrifice sleep.

1152
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,840
No, you can't do he can't
do it will catch up. I

1153
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,079
try to get to bed by eleven. Some days it's midnight or one.

1154
01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:56,239
How about you, Dan, I
get to bed about midnight, calv ten,

1155
01:16:56,359 --> 01:17:00,800
ten thirty. What do you do? Two? One one one?

1156
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:04,239
What's time to get up? This? Six thirty? Well quarter to seven?

1157
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:08,000
Seven? Yeah, maybe I need
to take and then work out.

1158
01:17:08,279 --> 01:17:10,840
Yeah you work out right away?
Yeah? Yeah, I always try.

1159
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,359
I like the dogs out and then
I workout. I usually I don't.

1160
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:16,720
I usually now have been saving it, so I I leave in the middle

1161
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,720
of the day at lunch, I'll
leave and I'll work out and then I'll

1162
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,319
go back. Well, I would
say mid day. I've never done workout

1163
01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:28,880
just because I get mid days.
I work out in the morning and then

1164
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,640
by mid day I get lull.
Yeah, if I don't have some energy

1165
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:36,239
like meaning, or I get pissed
off about something and then I get a

1166
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:42,720
little drops. We're fine. We're
finding the theme here. Pissed off.

1167
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,199
That pissed off SAPs your energy more
than anything, affect your kidneys. It

1168
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:53,479
like it like motivating to me,
motivate. I get pissed off. I

1169
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,960
want to it doesn't win. I
want to win. But then doesn't it

1170
01:17:56,039 --> 01:18:00,439
like when it all that adrenaline leaves
your body, aren't you sort of exhausted

1171
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,000
after that? It is? And
then I'm like, fuck, I better

1172
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,479
step up and make it happen.
I gotta, I gotta, I'll step

1173
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,640
up. Now, I got it. You know what, You're right.

1174
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:13,720
I need to focus more on the
positive. Yes, I'm a big on

1175
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,760
that. I'm a big believer you
are. And I try to channel Bill

1176
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,840
Moran about two thirty miles. If
you can find the positive. Yeah,

1177
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:26,399
Now, I always think that that's
a shot the same relationships, But I

1178
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,760
channels Bill Moran tooth. Nepton tells
a dick joke and walk back in his

1179
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,520
office. I don't I usually don't
think that the uh, you can't tell

1180
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,560
somebody to think positively. I think
that that that's horrible. You have to

1181
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,159
find a way to feel better,
feel better about the situation or whatever it

1182
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:44,800
is, like climb that emotional scale. Although when you're building a team and

1183
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,399
you're building a relationship, it's a
it's all a matter of perspective. So

1184
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:53,399
when when something happens, if you
think about you know, it's like the

1185
01:18:53,439 --> 01:19:02,920
Bill's lost today and I'm fucking ripped
right now, right Dan's closest, we

1186
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:08,760
can play closest, and what was
the final score today? But we got

1187
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,520
to we got a game in four
days. Yes, gotta think positive,

1188
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,319
got to turn around. You gotta
move forward. Behind us, it's over,

1189
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:16,840
it's down behind We gotta move forward. We got a big weekend games.

1190
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,359
Focus but think about hang on,
think about you. I need that

1191
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:26,920
person in mind. Take me.
Take me into a court case, the

1192
01:19:27,039 --> 01:19:30,439
court case that goes unexpectedly, something
happened, something comes up. They've got

1193
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,479
something you didn't you weren't aware of, you didn't see it. You got

1194
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,159
to put that behind there, there's
another one coming, and there's another one

1195
01:19:36,199 --> 01:19:39,800
after that. Yeah. And and
with the case that didn't go the way?

1196
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,319
Is that went the way we'd hoped? It's like, Okay, that

1197
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,039
matter, But how do we correct
it? Yes? What can we do

1198
01:19:45,119 --> 01:19:47,880
to then like remedy it to then
move forward? How do we learn to

1199
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,399
put ourselves in a better perspective and
moving forward? And then the next case,

1200
01:19:53,399 --> 01:19:55,880
it's like, Okay, did I
what did I learn from this case

1201
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,359
that we can move forward on?
And how can I learn from it?

1202
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,359
But oftentimes in the bills, I
get honkered down on them. Well,

1203
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:05,479
here's why I'm gonna tell you why
I think. I think I know too.

1204
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,279
What do you think of this?
You can't control it? That's exactly

1205
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:12,680
what I was gonna say, because
you, like me, are a control.

1206
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:17,000
I've learned you're a control I learned
after you got to fix it.

1207
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:21,439
If anybody's gonna fix it, it's
gonna be me. Divorce control. What's

1208
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,199
the point I'll work though, I'll
fuck it. I'll get up at seven,

1209
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:27,520
I'll get up at five, and
I'll work till two in the morning.

1210
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,359
I don't care I did that.
I've done it. I do it.

1211
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:33,239
It's just you know what's crazy.
He's like today yesterday was Penn State

1212
01:20:33,319 --> 01:20:35,960
Day. Yes, and I love
Penn State. But it's not like mine.

1213
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,319
No, it's not. It's not. So I get up at like

1214
01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:44,159
eight, eight thirty. Yeah,
this morning, six o'clock, I got

1215
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:45,640
up, worked out out. I
was up at Fushler, got up at

1216
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,720
six, worked out. It did
work for the office. I went and

1217
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:55,199
got all the food, all that
shit. What is wrong with me?

1218
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,800
Nothing? Nothing? You know what
it is. You provide, You provide

1219
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,199
a wonderful thing for everybody else,
like everybody else had a great time today,

1220
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:11,359
of course, and get you want
to help out in the patio watching

1221
01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:16,920
the game next Saturday is Alfred.
Oh yeah sure. Oh at Fisher people

1222
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,199
are gonna die. Oh my god. Now, years ago we had a

1223
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:24,640
big bet on this great showed up
in my house with an eighteen year old

1224
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,319
bottle of Jamison, and I was
hammered. I drank half that bottle that

1225
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:34,279
night standing around the kitchen. I
I got calls for you too. Greig

1226
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:40,439
gave me a bottle for you.
Hey, hey, cur we got to

1227
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,359
talk to her. Tell Tommy you
got I got a story for him.

1228
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,479
Okay, yeah, how is Alfred? I have known? I know nothing

1229
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,920
have they we're transitioning. It is
very hard for non state schools, and

1230
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,079
I'm not making an excuses. It's
very hard for non state schools save Ithaca

1231
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:02,319
in Division three to compete this.
It's just so hard. And the reason

1232
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,800
is that, you know, like
for Courtland brockpor is that you have you

1233
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:12,880
and I are paying for their facilities
and subsidizing the cost and so they can

1234
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:18,119
bring in great athletes. And then
Alfred is subsidy for the cost is donations.

1235
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,640
It's what do I give? What
do my alumni give? And and

1236
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:27,000
our facilities aren't quite as elaborate,
we don't have quite the capacity. Is

1237
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:30,760
that because we don't have the same
you know, donations. We don't have

1238
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,880
a tax base of the entire state
of New York and including Long Island.

1239
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:39,159
And it's tough, but you know, we will persevere. At Alfred,

1240
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:44,319
we're the southern tier. We look
at it differently and that's what's made me

1241
01:22:44,359 --> 01:22:46,880
who I am. But when he's
Alfred fisher Man, it's the two.

1242
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:50,119
Like schools, it's a matter of
you know, Coach Bosburg, who I've

1243
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:54,399
known for years and years, he's
been at Fisher for twenty plus years.

1244
01:22:54,399 --> 01:22:58,800
He's a great person. He's just
a great leader. Thirty plus years.

1245
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,319
Yeah, he was there when I
was there. His daughter was our account

1246
01:23:01,359 --> 01:23:05,000
manager for several years. Really yeah, and I used to give her ship

1247
01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:10,159
every day she left in the office. That's nice, and uh, you

1248
01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:15,960
know it's it's but this. I'm
scheduled to be in Penn State for the

1249
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,199
Penn State Indiana game. Okay,
Luke has his sectional game this weekend.

1250
01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:24,239
I believe it's against Calvin's Aquinas team. So depending on when the game you

1251
01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:28,760
lost to McQuaid Well, mc stacked
right down to the wire though, which

1252
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:36,840
Quinta sucks this year. The Grady
stack they're saving, they're saving on their

1253
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:42,640
big ones. Stacked this year.
The Equate is stacked. Yeah. The

1254
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,159
Bates brothers out there in mcquadda,
Bates, you know, a couple of

1255
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:50,680
infragrats down there. What what does
Fisher look like? Let's put this,

1256
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,359
this is probably Fisher's one of their
better teams over the last ten years.

1257
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,159
It's just it's like it's like getting
over the hump, like yes, like

1258
01:23:57,199 --> 01:23:59,760
okay, we looked like the Bills
today. All the stupid mistakes. The

1259
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,279
Bills did well. Okay, when
you're dealing with twenty one twenty two year

1260
01:24:02,319 --> 01:24:05,439
old kids, that's like you're not
get Like Lou Holtz famously said this,

1261
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,079
you never get the same twenty two
year old every single week, right,

1262
01:24:10,399 --> 01:24:13,279
And that's the Fisher's probably and they
went into a buzz saw. Cortland's a

1263
01:24:13,279 --> 01:24:15,359
buzzsaw, and they actually gave him
a good game in the first half.

1264
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:18,600
It was just some mentorings in one
hundred and fifty freshman a year to play

1265
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,600
footba wow, yeah yeah, and
then they would have looked down the thirty.

1266
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,479
Craig Fitzpatricks, the head coach,
is a former Fisher quarterback. He's

1267
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,479
a hell of the head coach.
He turned around Morrisville, he left.

1268
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,520
They now went into the tank.
He goes to Cortland. That program is

1269
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,000
amazing too. Now. I mean
they beat Brockport the only game they lost.

1270
01:24:35,159 --> 01:24:39,399
Su I was just gonna say,
what is yeah, what's his deal?

1271
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:45,119
S U? I feel like college
football with the nil deals, it's

1272
01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:50,039
really tipped the scales to those warm
weather schools. Turned to what major League

1273
01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:54,760
Baseball was in the nineties, which
was the halves and the have not separate.

1274
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,800
I means, look, I don't
know how Syracuse for years basketball and

1275
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,720
now Beeheim's gone, what's gonna happen
there? But football, I don't know

1276
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:08,560
they'll ever be a top tier They
never were to begin with. We had

1277
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:17,520
a couple of years with well,
yeah, like the eighties had McNabb and

1278
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:23,760
you have Harrison and now where Harrison's
kid go? Oh my god. And

1279
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,479
by the way, that kid is
probably the top rated, top talented players

1280
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,920
rate in the country gets open.
Just whatever team he goes to, he's

1281
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,680
gonna be a player maker. He's
a he's a difference maker. Yeah,

1282
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,640
all right, Well shall we uh
to make it better the Bills that uh?

1283
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,399
Or sorry, the Cardinals and the
Saxons playing on Saturday? Or should

1284
01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:46,760
we just leave that one alone?
That's a Greg. How many points you

1285
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,000
give? How many points you giving? I will give you three because it's

1286
01:25:51,039 --> 01:25:56,079
a it's at Fisher, right,
Well you got more than three because college

1287
01:25:56,079 --> 01:25:59,560
I think it's four four. I
think college, So then so do we

1288
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,000
give we give Greg, But I
think the teams are pretty even, so

1289
01:26:01,039 --> 01:26:04,680
I might be like two and a
half, two and a half, two

1290
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:09,560
and a half. I'll get I'll
tell you I'll give you four points.

1291
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:13,319
We'll get we'll go half alf for
four points? Ten, give me ten.

1292
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,359
Alfred just lost this past week.
I look like draft kings. How

1293
01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:19,000
about eight? All right? All
right? Eight points? Eight points?

1294
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,039
Well, you gotta make it a
half. You gotta make it. Make

1295
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:25,199
it seven and a half because like
the you know the because it ends up

1296
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:27,920
in an eight point game, it's
a wash, you know. So he's

1297
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,760
gotta be stregs attorney. He wants
eight and a half, It's gonna be

1298
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,000
eight and a half. I'm gonna
I got both you guys at eight and

1299
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,800
a half. Okay, let's go
assassins man. All right, eight and

1300
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,239
a half, Well, we'll get
the bottle. Dann Are you announcing the

1301
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:42,560
game? Oh yeah, yeah,
alright. So when we when we win

1302
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,960
out, what is the are you
gonna say? I owe Greg Conners universital

1303
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,399
scorer, Alfred University, ten say
Jeff Fisher University. Have to pause before

1304
01:26:51,399 --> 01:26:55,560
I see university. I have to
remind myself of the university. Seven.

1305
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:01,520
I'm great the Greg Connors. I
owe him a bottle of tequila. We'll

1306
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,319
go Goose, gotta be Greg Goose
would like to donate? And what do

1307
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:10,239
you guys, What do you guys
get? What do you get if if

1308
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:15,079
Fisher winds, which won't happen,
but yeah Fisher wins, you know what

1309
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,079
I'll take? What do you want? A case of Guinness? All right?

1310
01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:20,119
Case a Guinness? You can get
a case againnis a BJ's. It's

1311
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:25,199
the only place I can buy.
Can I get it? On Greg's side?

1312
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:31,439
On the off side, take a
bottle of Cheves? Yeah, okay,

1313
01:27:33,119 --> 01:27:35,680
what was no? Just a little
one, just a little one,

1314
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:40,079
A little one, not a big
one, little one, Greg, Greg

1315
01:27:40,079 --> 01:27:45,279
will show up with an entire cast. You know, I'm gonna drink both

1316
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:48,600
of them. Because what do you
want? If you if if Alfred wins,

1317
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:54,479
what do you want? Don't think
too hard. He's an inticate guy.

1318
01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:01,600
Why are you asking him because he
wanted to jump fun something? You're

1319
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:08,439
just thinking about adopting an Alfred for
we already kicked Alfred's as it was embarrassing.

1320
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,760
Well well well uh and by the
way, wait before you wrap it,

1321
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,079
Yes, sir, your absence was
noticed at the Guinness Tour because with

1322
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:20,720
you there it would have been that
much better. And the Jamison Tour anyway,

1323
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,920
that goes to Dublin through the Guinness
Jamison Tour combined one of the best

1324
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,760
times I had in Europe. The
Jamison Tour was fantastic. Guinness Tour was

1325
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,399
absolute unbelievable. I just wish you
guys were there. Bill would have made

1326
01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:38,520
the first one, but not the
second one. I would have been stuck.

1327
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:48,359
Good times the Bill Boilermaker all right, for Great Connors, who's very

1328
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:55,680
angry. All right, For Dann
Barrillo was frustrated as a Phils fan.

1329
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,399
But for some reason, it feels
like I can't control it. I know

1330
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,880
I get to control it. For
Kevin who hasn't really gloated, but will

1331
01:29:02,039 --> 01:29:08,159
won Wimbledon today. Will I'm Bill
Moran, will see you tomorrow. Go

1332
01:29:08,359 --> 01:29:13,520
Bill. See they were knocking forward
kind of back with Tennessee