WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.280 You. Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wall Street, Window dot Com and listeners 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:16.039 like you, Yeah and now Media check Shelly May fifteen, twenty twenty three, 3 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:19.440 allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, and this indeed 4 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:22.199 is the show you were looking for. How do I know that? Because 5 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:25.960 you found it and you're hearing me say what I'm saying. Anyway, you 6 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:29.559 wouldn't have found this show if you didn't want to, that's for sure. 7 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:33.280 Welcome to it all. It is a Moonday Monday as I speak to you 8 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.560 alive. But if you catch us further on down the stream by your final 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:41.520 slab of choice, your applicable application, who has any idea what day it 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.880 is or what time it is, You're listening to it as you choose. 11 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:47.560 So no matter who you are, where you are, when you are, 12 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:55.079 welcome now. We often have had to discuss the pandemic. We definitely have 13 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.520 had to cover this over and over again. What was happening as it was 14 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.679 happening? Controversies or as they say on the other side of the pond, 15 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:07.280 the controversies, right, And we've had to go over this, and we've 16 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.680 gotten ourselves in trouble. We no longer have a presence on YouTube. You 17 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.719 know, all that good stuff, not not for just the crazy, weird 18 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:19.439 things that were made up, but also medical disinformation. Right. They said 19 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:25.120 that we were by questioning anything, by saying maybe you shouldn't trust the big 20 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:30.879 pharmaceutical companies when it comes to the vaccination. It was medical disinformation, although 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.120 it was publicly known stuff that I talked about the very same people who you 22 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.920 know, brought to you by the very same people who brought you, you 23 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.680 know, those old commercials. Well, brought to you by the very same 24 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:46.159 people who brought you the opioid epidemic. Here's your vaccine, all right, 25 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:51.439 Johnson and Johnson, they are instrumental, and they presented one of the three 26 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.840 back big vaccines. But before we even got to vaccine, what was going 27 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.239 on, the shutdowns, all that stuff we talked about it. I am 28 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.480 so happy when I discover a brand new person to me, brand new, 29 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.840 probably not brand new at all, but we're gonna get into that. Mike 30 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:13.159 Wallack is a filmmaker, and you know, we'll start with he's a filmmaker 31 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.639 and let him fill in the gaps there and tell you what it was he 32 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.879 was doing before he decided to delve into Now. I'm just gonna go with 33 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.240 the title here and tell you about it, and also there'll be a link 34 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.120 in with the show notes, and maybe i'll drop it in the live chat 35 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.400 room at ochelly dot com. I haven't checked there yet to see if anybody's 36 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.919 even talking or whatever, but you can always roll the chat room back if 37 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:42.039 you go to a paradigm shift dot us screen right or you screen yeah, 38 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.240 you screen dot io. If you go there, you will see something called 39 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:53.639 the viral Delusion, the tragic pseudoscience of stars dash CO two c B two, 40 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:58.199 and the madness of modern virology. Are we getting a hint here? 41 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.039 Are we getting hint on what's going on? Or do we know what we're 42 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.680 talking about? Let's get into it. Enough out of me, Mike Wallack, 43 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.439 and hopefully I'm pronouncing your name correctly because I haven't even spoke to you 44 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.159 until today, but I've taken a look at just pieces of your work. 45 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.439 Really happy to see yet another piece of work out there that is serious, 46 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:22.159 that is an examination of I don't know what the hell is really going on 47 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.680 anyway, enough out of me, tell us a little bit about what it 48 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.240 is that caused you to make this film, and I am gonna mention it 49 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.159 a few more times and bring people over to it. You can purchase it, 50 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.159 by the way, for I think it's eleven ninety nine is the cost 51 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.560 on the one link. We'll get into that more too. I'll ask Mike 52 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.639 how we can get hold of the film, and I'll also give you some 53 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:49.800 links to the trailers all that in the show notes. But anyway, Mike, 54 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.039 how did you get even decide that you were gonna turn something you were 55 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.080 already doing? Or maybe I should take it further back. I mean, 56 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.840 let's talk about what you were doing where the pandemic happened. Yeah, let's 57 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.919 go there. Yeah, Chuck, thanks for having me on your show. 58 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:09.599 It's it's a pleasure to be able to talk to you. Um. So, 59 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:14.120 yeah, I was. I was a filmmaker already. I was a 60 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:21.160 screenwriter and I had a rant a bunch of screenplays for Hollywood and one of 61 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:26.439 them had actually, you know, gotten made, and it was it was 62 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.519 actually about a a sort of an epidemic, kind of close mixed situation. 63 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.680 But that was like ten years ago. Um, it was just a weird 64 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:43.560 echo of of reality. But there's there's there's so many ways to talking about 65 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.000 it. Um, I'm gonna go way back, like fifteen years ago to 66 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:54.199 explain how I ended up in a place where I would make the viral delusion. 67 00:04:54.680 --> 00:05:01.040 Um. But I'll tell you just a quick bit about the documentary itself. 68 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:11.920 So, UM, we look at your your viewers are probably aware of 69 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.680 all sorts of levels of fraud that have happened during the last you know, 70 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:24.279 three years. Um. So there's there's you can pick almost anything about you 71 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:29.000 know what the mainstream narrative has been telling us over the last three years, 72 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.720 and you can you scratch the surface to discover that it's that it's a fraud. 73 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.279 Um. So you know, does this so called injection, you know, 74 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.000 is it good for you? Well, scratch the surface and you find 75 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:48.839 out that in the in the trials, you know, the the control group 76 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:54.279 and then you had the the you know, the injected group that you know, 77 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.199 significantly more people died in the injected group than in the control group. 78 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.879 Well that doesn't sound like a successful trial to me. But they were able 79 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.319 to, you know, they were able to basically put white out over the 80 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:11.360 names of the people that died in in the trial group versus the control group 81 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:16.000 or you look at the mask uh data, and the mask data has been 82 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:25.399 has always overwhelmingly been that mask usage doesn't do anything except make you sick. 83 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:29.480 I mean, it's it's it's obvious, and that's what all the studies have 84 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.199 shown consistently over and over and over and over and over again. But all 85 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.839 that data was ignored, and it was claimed that everybody should be wearing masks. 86 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.079 So I mean, you know, you scratch the surface on any of 87 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.360 this stuff. I mean, you know the PCR testing um, and what 88 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:51.600 a joke the PCR testing was. But in the film series, and I 89 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.279 say film series because when I set out to make this documentary and I'll tell 90 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.560 you why and we'll get into it. I originally said out to make a 91 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:03.600 two hour documentary and I ended up with so much extraordinary material, um that 92 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:09.040 we turned it into a seven and a half hour series, five episode, 93 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:13.560 seven and a half hour series because it was there's just too much and I 94 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.720 had to stop. I had I had some of the most amazing material, 95 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.079 you know, just sitting on a hard drive in my in my computer because 96 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.319 at some point I had to stop editing the thing and just get it out 97 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.360 there. But I could, I could tell all the stories of the extraordinary 98 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:35.639 scientists, doctors, philosophers, um that professors that I spoke to who were 99 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:42.319 dying to get their stories out about aspects of this fraud that I couldn't even 100 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.439 squeeze in. I mean that alone. You know, I could do that 101 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.800 numerous more episodes. But anyway, well, right, and look I've covered 102 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.279 on this show, like say, the story of doctor Zelenko. You might 103 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:56.079 know that one. Uh, yeah, go ahead. But but so what 104 00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:00.639 I did was I focused in this uh. In the first episode, UH, 105 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:07.800 we focused on the doctors and scientists who carefully scrutinized the foundation of the 106 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:16.920 entire so called pandemic. And that is the academic so called academic papers that 107 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.639 came out of Wuhan UH and then the subsequent papers that came out of Australia, 108 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.519 Seattle and Korea. UM that in which it was declared that a new 109 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:41.879 virus had been found at all. And UM, these extraordinary, extraordinarily thoughtful, 110 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:54.000 rational, careful thinkers take us through them the smoking mirrors, that that 111 00:08:54.279 --> 00:09:05.960 is, those initial papers and and UM some of them were absolutely shocked when 112 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:11.639 they actually read these papers. Because ninety nine point nine percent of doctors do 113 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:16.080 not read the actual papers out of barology, and the very few that actually 114 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:22.320 read the papers do not carefully read the methodology sections, which is where the 115 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:33.600 fraud is really hidden. And it's just absolutely mind blowing when you can take 116 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:43.480 a part the very foundation of the entire last three years. And so we 117 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:52.480 spend about two about two hours in the first episode very carefully telling these doctors 118 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:58.519 and scientists stories. And we're talking about some really phenomenal people. I mean 119 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:07.559 Andrew Hoffmann, who you know, earned his undergraduate degree and molecular biology at 120 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.080 MIT and then went on to get his medical degree. Tom Collen, who's 121 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:18.559 a doctor who is widely published on many fields. Stefan Lanca who's a former 122 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:30.639 virologist, Kevin Corbett who is a nurse, a nurse PhD in London, 123 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:39.000 class Coneline who is a doctor in Germany, Stefan Scolio who is a biochemist 124 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:45.440 in Italy and was nominated for the Nobel Prize by the US Assistant Surgeon General, 125 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:50.279 and many many more. I mean, we're talking about really phenomenally experienced, 126 00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:01.360 absolutely brilliant thinkers who have been completely complete, letely, entirely silenced and 127 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:07.360 silenced not just by YouTube and not just by the mainstream media, but they've 128 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:15.320 even been silenced by many alternative voices, alternative channels. Well that's that's the 129 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:20.279 question I wanted to go to because I didn't see the immediate use of let's 130 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.360 call them the usual suspects. Who are good people, some of them who 131 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.759 have been on this show have been on shows that I produced, because I 132 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.080 produce other podcasts. You know, Peter McCullough, people like that, who 133 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.080 have been out there, who have been out front. But I think what 134 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.519 has missed in a lot of cases here is that there's a wide array of 135 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:45.240 individuals all across the medical field that did say something was wrong. Now, 136 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.360 your reaction, I want to get into when you really started to react, 137 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:54.679 because was it during the time that the mainstream media was really pushing the panic 138 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.879 that, look, we have this terrible thing. We don't know what we're 139 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.200 gonna do. This is horror thing. People are gonna die, We're gonna 140 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.879 have to do something. The masking came in and then that happened in a 141 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.639 variety of ways depending on where you were, and we tried to cover what 142 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:15.039 was happening in Australia versus what was happening here that got me in trouble on 143 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.039 various channels, you know, stuff like that. I mean, I got 144 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.639 in trouble all over the place for first of all, even hinting that something 145 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.399 might have come out of a lab. Now that's accepted. You know, 146 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:31.559 I got in trouble for all these things. But forget about my troubles. 147 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.879 People in the medical industry were reacting, and yet we were shown through the 148 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.200 you know, the talking heads like Sanjay Gupta and people like that, right 149 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.440 the universally. Unless you're a crazy conspiracy theorist, you need to understand that 150 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.240 this is the most deadly thing happening of our time. I mean, did 151 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.759 you start to react when that was happening? Did you think something is wrong? 152 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.440 And I need to look into this? Where did you begin to come 153 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:05.240 into this? So um again? Let me let me I'll tell you a 154 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.440 quick story as quickly as I cannot sell you, the story about how I 155 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:18.120 began even ever thinking about medical politics and medical history. And that's uh from 156 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.360 more than fifteen years ago. Now. My wife and I were living in 157 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.480 in Park Slope and Brooklyn. You're out of New York, right, Well, 158 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.840 no, actually I grew up in New York New Jersey. I'm in 159 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.440 making Georgia. Now, I know you can tell from my accent, but 160 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.279 that's great Georgia. Um. But uh, well, we were living in 161 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:43.519 New York and Brooklyn at the time, and and my wife began to have 162 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:50.759 this really debilitating condition where her knees would swell up and one knee would swell 163 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.279 up almost the size of look a volleyball, and then it would go away 164 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.919 after a couple of days. And then a few days later her other knee 165 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:03.759 would swell up and I was causing her enormous pain, and she, uh, 166 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.159 it wouldn't go away, you know. So she went to rheumatologists in 167 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.440 New York City, and she went to the best people she could find, 168 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:16.879 and you know, Columbia and Cornell and all that, and uh they all 169 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.279 said the same thing, which is that there's nothing they could they could do, 170 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.600 that she had early on set arthritis, and that she was never gonna 171 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.600 be able to really walk again. And uh they said that they could put 172 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:39.480 her on a steroid treatment that would reduce the pain, but it would highly 173 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:46.559 increase her chances dying in her fifties and h and they and they said, 174 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:50.639 you know, uh, we're sorry. But you just you gonna have to 175 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:56.279 get a good cane. And you know, I remember going into a drug 176 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:01.360 store and buying a cane with my wife on sixt in Brooklyn. And she's 177 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:09.440 thirty years old and she's dropped at gorgeous and she couldn't walk and uh and 178 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.039 it was just like, you know, one of those life changing events. 179 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.559 And uh. And then um, I happened to hear this doctor on the 180 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:26.080 radio and uh he it was like an alternative radio station, like what was, 181 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:33.080 you know, free thinking radio stations and and he said, uh, 182 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.919 he sounded so brilliant. Um. And he had been the chief pathologist at 183 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:43.600 a hospital in New York and um he had quit because he was so frustrated 184 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:50.039 with the standard medical practice at the hospital. What's what what I later learned 185 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:58.120 is called the standard of care, that prescribed standard of care. And and 186 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.799 uh, I said to my wife, one, don't we just go see 187 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.240 this guy and see if he's got anything to say. It sounds so smart, 188 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:07.639 you know. So she went to see him and he asked her if 189 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.519 she was an athlete, and she said no, and he said, well, 190 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.320 what does your bathroom look like? She said, that's the weirdest question, 191 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.279 but I hate my bathroom. He said, yeah, has the paint 192 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.519 peeling on the walls of your bathroom? She said, yeah, yeah, 193 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:23.960 yeah, yeah it is. I said, okay, I'm gonna run some 194 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:29.080 tests, but you most likely have a mold allergy, and you just need 195 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:30.759 to get out of your bathroom, get out of that apartment, and you'll 196 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:37.279 be fine, okay. And so we got out of that apartment about two 197 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:44.639 weeks later, and she healed right up and she's never had a problem again. 198 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:51.000 It's been fifteen years, more than fifteen years now. So I went 199 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.960 back for a second visit with that doctor, and I remember he was such 200 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.559 a funny guy. He held my hand and he held my wife's hand, 201 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.159 and he said, remember all the children that died in the in the Iraq 202 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:06.880 War, and that died in the sanctions of the Iraq War. That pales 203 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.960 in comparison to the lipatour scam alone. He said, never trust a word 204 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:17.640 that you read in the New Enron Journal of Medicine. It's all lives. 205 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.160 And he was referring to the New England Journal of Medicine, which is of 206 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.759 course considered the most prestigious journal medicine in the country. Right this meant such 207 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:32.319 a successful doctor that even though he's a Pakistani Muslim Man doctor Majid Ali, 208 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.839 he was the rabbi of the of the chief, he was the doctor of 209 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:41.799 the chief Rabbi in New York City. That's that the chief Rabbi New York 210 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.680 City was not going to a Jewish doctor. Who's going to a Pakistani Muslim 211 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.119 doctor. That's how good this guy is. And he's the guy who healed 212 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.680 my wife, and he and this is what he's telling us, And I'm 213 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.000 going this is this is mind blind, like this is this is unbelievable. 214 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:00.240 I mean, my wife and walk again. She's not going to take this 215 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:06.240 medicine is potentially going to kill her in her fifties. And so that that 216 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:11.680 lost us on the beginning of this journey. And when my wife became pregnant, 217 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:18.440 I was suddenly willing to question assumptions as was she that I never would 218 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.720 have questioned a million years before. And one of those assumptions was that it's 219 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:30.319 good to vaccine. It's a good thing. So instead of just taking that 220 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:36.480 assumption at its you know, societal value, we began to do our research. 221 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:41.359 And the first book that my wife ordered to read was by Mary Holland, 222 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:49.960 who was a law professor at NYU, and she had written about the 223 00:18:51.079 --> 00:19:03.119 uncovered legal background to vaccinations and their and their medical consequences. And what we 224 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:08.720 discovered was that there was this gigantic story about the dangers of vaccines that have 225 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:17.559 been hidden, completely uncovered by the press and U and that have been proven 226 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:19.680 in court, I mean just over and over and over proven in court. 227 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.839 And it was becoming so dangerous, of course for the pharmaceutical companies that they 228 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:30.799 lobbied Congress so that a new court system would be created just for them. 229 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:37.279 So there's actually three court systems in the United States. There's the regular court 230 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.599 system for all of us. There's the military court system if you're in the 231 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:47.279 military, and then there's the court system if you've been injured by vaccines. 232 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:55.039 Uh and and if you win in that court system, the pharmaceutical companies don't 233 00:19:55.039 --> 00:20:00.599 have to pay. The American taxpayer pays you out right now, you don't 234 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.279 know this, but believe it or not, I'm one of the few places 235 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:08.440 that has actually covered this and talked about this and gotten at it where it's 236 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.519 like, look, you know, they always hit you with the your conspiracy 237 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.119 theorist. You must have seen something on Facebook that convinced you that vaccines are 238 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.119 not good even though they're proven and this and that, and I go, 239 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.000 you know, look, I know about the special court system. I know 240 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.480 about the judgments that you're not allowed to even if you do get a settlement 241 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.839 from them, you're not allowed to disclose it. All of these kind of 242 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.960 special protections that have been granted. Nobody seems to get to want to get 243 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:38.720 their minds around this, that this is a completely different thing. And that's 244 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:45.079 the scary part about the vaccination end of this, right absolutely is that absolutely 245 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:49.920 well, I'll tell you what. The thing that really blew my mind and 246 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:55.079 came back up later when I was one of the things that one of the 247 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.799 reasons why I really wanted to make this documentary serious. The thing that blew 248 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:06.279 my mind was not that vaccines were dangerous. Somehow subconsciously, I kind of 249 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:11.720 had that sense anyway, anyway, far more dangerous than I realized, far 250 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:17.680 more. I mean, most people don't realize how extraordinarily toxic these products are. 251 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:25.240 But I mean just it's just, I mean, we could talk about 252 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.000 that for a long time in and of itself. But the thing that the 253 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:32.720 thing that really blew my mind was the efficacy, because I had always grown 254 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:37.640 up believing that vaccines were the reason that we don't have pollio today, that 255 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.839 vaccines are the reason that we don't have smallpox today, that vaccines are the 256 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:52.920 reason we don't have a whole litany of diseases today that used to plague mankind 257 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.920 of you know, people embarrassed different places. That that was the story that 258 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:02.440 I always believed. And so you know, I was prone to the arguments 259 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:06.359 of, oh, well, maybe it's a little bit dangerous, but you 260 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.039 know, we should all do it because we're doing it for each other, 261 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.759 and all this language that was resurrected, of course during COVID. But um, 262 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:22.559 what what really shocked me was when I began reading medical history around these 263 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:27.359 questions around the question of what really happened with polio? What what what really 264 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:33.720 actually caused polio? And what why did polio go in? Why did smallpox 265 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.000 go away? And when you read the medical history, it's very clear that 266 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.039 vaccines had nothing to do with it. They had nothing to do with it, 267 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:49.200 right, but they they have been marketed as the you know, the 268 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:55.160 cure, all that this this is you know, this is why we we 269 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:59.880 would the healthy lifestyles that we do today. And of course, you know, 270 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:03.240 people aren't so healthy today, but that's a whole other story. Oh 271 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.279 so yeah, well, look, wasn't it an amazing thing though to discover 272 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:10.119 that because he always had this idea as as I did growing up. I 273 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:14.920 mean that, look, they test all this stuff, right, so therefore 274 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.400 there was a whole bunch of you know, testing that goes into it. 275 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.880 It must have been found to be the the you know, the thing that 276 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.319 works, because otherwise it wouldn't be out there. That's the way it is, 277 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.079 right. And then when you go into it on stuff like this, 278 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.799 you find that the only thing that's ever really been tested for efficacy when it 279 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:37.559 comes to vaccinations is the rabies shot. Okay, and and that's what you 280 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.440 know, even rabies, even rabies is not even rabies is based on you 281 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.880 know, I was in a I mean, the last thing I want to 282 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.000 talk about rabies because it's so far afield, but let me just say I 283 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.400 you know, I was talking to to a real kind of mainstream believer and 284 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.960 he was like, what about rabies, you know, because yeah, what's 285 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:04.200 going on there? And I had rabies as a relatively unstudied subject among critical 286 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:10.160 medical historians. Okay, I mean there's there's some topics that have been covered 287 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.920 where critical historians have gone back and looked at them. Rabies is less. 288 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.000 So so I had to do some of my own personal research on that, 289 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:22.400 and I started reading some of them foundational papers and some reading some of the 290 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:27.160 charts that were most prominently displayed by the CDC and stuff. And I started 291 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:33.000 writing the professors this one chart that's it's really the chart that the CDC puts 292 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.400 out about rabies numbers going down with the vaccine. Said where'd you get these 293 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.519 numbers from? And the professor was very sort of embarrassed, and he said, 294 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.359 you know, honestly, I don't have the numbers for you. I 295 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.200 said, I can you send me the database that these numbers are based on, 296 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.240 because I'd like to see what what the methodology was behind this chart, 297 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.319 and you know, I wanted the methodology matters tremendously, And he sort of 298 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.599 sheepishly told me that he didn't have any of the actual data that of the 299 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.480 chart from his paper, but that he thought that the CDC would have it. 300 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:07.839 And um, so I wrote to the CDC and then they said that 301 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:15.640 they don't have it and um and that they essentially, um, nobody knows 302 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:22.799 where the data from this key chart that's that's put out actually lies and there 303 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.400 you can't check the data on this chart. So that was that was that's 304 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.480 the major chart, let's put out. And then the second thing is I 305 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:34.160 started reading these old rabies papers and what really blew me away was that what's 306 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.240 the like, what's the one thing that you know about like the danger of 307 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:44.599 rabies? Right, Like, what what's the central thing? The central thing 308 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.720 is, like I mean, on a very basic level, is you get 309 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.640 bit by a dog with rabies and then you could get rabies and die. 310 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.000 Right, that's the story, right, if you don't go get the shots 311 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.720 to take care of it. This is the big thing. Whether it's a 312 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.920 dog, raccoon, or whatever. Right, they have defined the animal determined 313 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.960 if it actually has the rabies. I mean, this is always the thing. 314 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.759 And uh yeah, yeah, yes, right. Well, if you 315 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:17.960 actually read the medical records on alleged human cases of rabies right in the last 316 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:25.440 forty this well this was from from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety five, was 317 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:30.079 one paper and they said of the it was I might not get these numbers 318 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.799 exactly right, but it's basically right. Of the twenty six cases of human 319 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:42.039 rabies that were reported in the United States, twenty four of them, the 320 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:48.680 human being was not bit by any animal at all. Right, Yeah, 321 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.359 they didn't get it from a bite. No, Right. And and then 322 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.319 it was that was followed by another paper which went from the you know, 323 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.720 nineteen ninety eight to twenty twelve or something, and it was the exact same 324 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:07.400 thing of the cases. They simply could not find a bite. But they 325 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.599 were so already the people who wrote this paper in this whole industry behind this 326 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.480 is so buried in in only thinking one way about why we might get sick, 327 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:23.079 and what sickness is and how it's diagnosed and all these things that they 328 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.000 came up with this Cockamaiti theory. They were actually wrote this in the paper 329 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:34.319 that maybe a secret, unknown side effect of rabies is that you forget the 330 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:41.880 bite. See this is the explanations after the fact. I'm sorry to lamp, 331 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.839 but this is what we're facing. And let's let's get back into the 332 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.960 topic at hand. Okay, Because as I said, it was interesting to 333 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.720 watch how there was the great panic. Right here comes this thing, which 334 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.559 yes, indeed, I know people were getting sick. I got sick in 335 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:03.000 twenty twenty very and I thought, well, I must have this thing that 336 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.319 they're talking about, this brand new thing. Maybe I did, Maybe I 337 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.039 didn't. I never went and got tested. Right, there's a whole thing 338 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.319 about the PCR testing and everything else, which you're covering the movie. So 339 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:18.960 we'll leave that to the listener right to go and discover that in the movie 340 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.240 about the testing. Let's put that aside again and go back into You saw 341 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.279 what was happening. You saw what was being introduced, and then here comes 342 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.599 the hero the vaccine, right, operation warp speed, all of this. 343 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:38.880 You have to look at the whole history. And again it was amazing to 344 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:44.039 me how they were stating, Look, you need to go get this shot, 345 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.240 because this is the only thing that's going to save you after we've given 346 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.119 you the panic. This is the thing that's going to stop the spread. 347 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.839 This is the thing that's going to prevent others from getting ill, so on 348 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.799 and so forth. This is what they told you in the media. Now, 349 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.480 the funny part is in their own papers, even in the papers that 350 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.440 were developed by Visor and the other companies that were involved in these efforts to 351 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.720 create the vaccine. They didn't even say that their product would do that. 352 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.079 They didn't say that their product would stop to spread in their own paperwork. 353 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.920 Okay. Now, you know nobody questioned it at the time though, because, 354 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.559 like I said, the talking heads, it was just all about go 355 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:30.160 get your vaccine. Everything on TV from Elmo to Don Lemon was telling you, 356 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.079 right, you have to go get this. You have to go get 357 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.839 it, not just to save yourself, but to save everybody around you. 358 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:45.200 Okay, And meanwhile, where is the proof that this is what was happening? 359 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.880 Where is the you know, you talked about the treatment. And I 360 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.759 love that story, by the way, about your wife, because again a 361 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.839 piece of intelligence was revealed there where a doctor said, you know, there 362 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.519 could be an environmental problem here. That's the room, folks, the environmental 363 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:06.160 problem. You know, doctors never talk about the dietary problem because what do 364 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.480 the doctors turn to? The literature that they're given, right, they're marching 365 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.680 orders, the stuff that comes from the AMA, the stuff that comes from 366 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.160 the medical journals. They go to that for treatment, for the answer to 367 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:23.759 everything, and they never bother to examine things again, like diet environment, 368 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.279 okay, or to ever bother to see that no two individuals are truly alike. 369 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.880 I mean, there is no such thing as a one size fits all 370 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.720 solution in medicine. Actually, they never look at that. They never, 371 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.640 I mean except this one guy was smart enough to say, hey, look 372 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.839 I see a problem here. Oh well, let's just give you the drug. 373 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.880 That's the normal protocols, that's the normal treatments, that's the normal way 374 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.160 that they go about things. Here's the drug, the answer to the symptom, 375 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.799 and never dealing with what the problem is. And I'll tell you metaphorically, 376 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.279 this is what we saw on a massive scale. But but have no 377 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.880 fear except this as the solution. Even though the people that are developed in 378 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.960 it didn't say that it was going to do all the things that we're telling 379 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.200 you it's going to do. Very confusing, I mean, what was the 380 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.759 big alarm bell? I mean, I get you're starting the question. You 381 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.200 see that the medical industry in and of itself is a contradiction constantly. They're 382 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.279 supposed to do no harm. But are they attempting to do any good? 383 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.839 Is the major question? Right? But they're doing tremendous I mean, I 384 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.839 mean even you know, according to the most standard sources, you know, 385 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:40.359 hyprogenesis, which is death by doctor is a third leading cause of death in 386 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.319 the country. Yeah, but that's that's you know, that's a very standardized 387 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:45.400 number. I mean, I think if you if you thought about it more 388 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.720 holistically, it would go you know, much much much higher than that, 389 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:56.279 because there's so many cases where the person dies from the from the treatment, 390 00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.480 but it's it's claimed that they died from the disease, which is of course 391 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:05.039 the situation that happened with covid um It was death by treatment, not death 392 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.079 by disease. And it's just it's I don't even know where to begin. 393 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.319 Let me, let me try to give people some context for it, and 394 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.200 then we'll dig in, because I'm really hoping that that that more and more 395 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:22.599 people can understand the perspective that the scientists and the doctors and the and the 396 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.000 medical historians and the journalists that I was able to speak to um all uh 397 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.799 we're saying in symphony, I mean absolutely in symphony. And because it's such 398 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.759 an an underreported story, man, it's it's the underreported story of the last 399 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.839 three years. It's not the last fifty years of course, um, and 400 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.440 that is that the entire field of virology is pseudoscience, the entire field, 401 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:52.880 and the claim that there ever was a Star's cove two virus is complete nonsense. 402 00:32:53.319 --> 00:33:00.680 It's based purely on pseudoscience. And and essentially it was just lasted out 403 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:07.480 to the rest of the medical community who did not, you know, basically 404 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.759 was not in a position to verify one way or another whether these claims were 405 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:19.160 true. And when you actually uh dissect them and dig in, you realize 406 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.599 that the it's it's total bunk. But just just to put the whole thing 407 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.960 in some context, Um, there's there's a I was thinking about Georgia, 408 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.759 where you said you're from. There's a great writer down there in Georgia. 409 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.079 Uh, and he wrote a book called The Moth and the Iron Lung You 410 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.799 ever have you ever heard of that? I have heard of it. Yeah, 411 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:45.000 yeah, So he talks about the story of polio, and pollio is 412 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.359 a good one I think for people to understand, because you know, it 413 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.880 was it was told to everybody, uh, you know for decades before the 414 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.599 fifties, and then of course ever since the polio was caused by virus, 415 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:04.440 and that it was an infectious virus and h and you know, if you 416 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.199 weren't careful and we didn't you know, fund research for the vaccine and then 417 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.320 have everybody got the vaccine that uh, you know, your child might become 418 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.039 paralyzed, your child could die. And that the reason we don't have polio 419 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.119 today is because of all this research for the vaccine in the fifties and the 420 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.800 YadA YadA YadA. Well as um they laid out in the In the Moth 421 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:29.480 and the Art Moth from the Art Lung and many many other books, including 422 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:39.360 the extraordinary book by Jim West Polio Toxicology Verse Virology. Um. Why did 423 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:44.960 we see the rise of childhood paralysis at the beginning of the twentieth century. 424 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.360 Uh, Well, what we saw was the rise of the new industrial chemical 425 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:59.559 organophosphates, various versions of organo phosphates. And as these chemicals began to be 426 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.960 used in certain locations and with more frequency, that's where we saw the childhood 427 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.400 paralysis. Um. So you know, you can go back and you can 428 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:13.519 look at you know, small towns in Massachusetts where these organophosphates are used by 429 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:20.039 tanneries in the small town Uh. And the they dumped these new industrial chemicals 430 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.079 in the in the river, and uh, it's in those you know, 431 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:29.400 in that town where you see childhood paralysis. But even though these people have 432 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.920 lots of exchange with people, uh, you know, three miles inland, 433 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.639 ten miles inland and other towns, Nobody in these other towns is becoming sick. 434 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.599 Nobody's becoming paralyzed. It's only the little towns along this river where this 435 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:49.559 industrial chemical is uh is dumped. Then we see a new version of this 436 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:55.079 chemical becomes sprayed in the northeast in order to defeat a to wipe out a 437 00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:01.280 new moth um that is eating the crops in New England, and this chemical 438 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:08.679 Paris green is sprayed all over the trees and whatnot. Again, it gets 439 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:15.159 into the water supply. The cows drink it and it becomes condensed in their 440 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:22.880 milk. Babies and small children drink the milk and they become paralyzed in exactly 441 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.599 these towns, in these areas. So as we see the rise temporally and 442 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.480 geographically of this chemical, these these new compounds, we see the rise of 443 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:42.800 childhood paralysis. And we don't see contagion whatsoever. And why why does anybody 444 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.960 think it's a virus? Well, it's just this, it's essentially that's just 445 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:54.480 what everybody's told, this theory that sickness doesn't come from your environment, that 446 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.360 it doesn't come from the food you eat, or the air you breed, 447 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.840 or the quality of the water you drink. But instead it is uh, 448 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.320 you shouldn't think about any of that, and you should only think about these 449 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:15.559 um, these fictional entities, um that have been um enculturated into our scientific 450 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:22.440 literature through pseudoscience. And this is what you should blame for disease. And 451 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.559 you can see it in like the funding at the early twentieth century. Um, 452 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:34.280 there's tremendous research it had been going on in this country surrounding nutrition because 453 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.199 we had just um, you know, we had spent decades thinking that PELAGRAU 454 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.880 was a contagious disease, and eventually it had been discovered that it was a 455 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:50.159 nutritional deficiency. People of course know that the story of scurvy, which was 456 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.159 also thought to be a contagious disease. Uh, and uh there's also a 457 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:59.159 nutritional deficient deficiency. So um. But but pelagra had been a really sort 458 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:05.079 of mad moment in early American um medical thought in the nineteenth century and so 459 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.039 all this thinking starts going into oh, wow, you know, nutrition is 460 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.800 must be important, and wow, that must be a factor in human health. 461 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:16.920 Um, not that anybody hadn't thought of it before, but in the 462 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:23.079 United States, in sort of you know, the esteemed libraries of Harvard and 463 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:28.000 Yale and whatnot, this was a sort of a new idea. Yeah. 464 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.480 Yeah, So there's there's all sorts of research that goes into nutrition, and 465 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.760 there's all sorts of research that goes into toxicology because with the rise of them 466 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.800 what you might call the American Industrial Revolution or the rise of you know, 467 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.280 factories and and and new chemicals being used in the United States, you know, 468 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.239 there's a lot of interest in that, and and and and people are 469 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.000 are are noting that, you know, these things are quite toxic. There's 470 00:38:54.079 --> 00:39:00.960 extraordinarily dangerous. So there's there grows to be a fair amount of research in 471 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.800 that area as well. And then there was this little tiny field which theorized 472 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.440 that that no, no, no, that's not where disease comes from. 473 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.159 Doesn't come from the food you eat or your environment or toxic things in your 474 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:19.800 around you. It comes from tiny little things, um, we that we 475 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.800 just can't see. But that must be there. And this becomes the uh, 476 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:32.559 the area that Rockefeller and Morgan, but chiefly Rockefeller starts financing as he 477 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:39.079 takes over the American medical industry. And it just happens to be this perfect 478 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:50.920 boogeyman because if you've been poisoned by DDT, or you've been on a diet 479 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:57.639 that doesn't have any nutrition, neither one of these is really built for selling 480 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.920 a pill. Um there, you know, get get the toxin out of 481 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.519 your life, eat healthy, and you're gonna be okay. But if if 482 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:15.199 there's a tiny little bugger that ordinary people can't see, but that the high 483 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.559 priests of science are telling you exists, then it's you know, then you 484 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:25.719 can sell a vaccine to defeat this thing. And um, what what Edward 485 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:31.519 Jenner and the doctors of London had discovered, you know, more than one 486 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:37.320 hundred years prior, was that vaccines totally changed the economic paradigm of working in 487 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:45.880 the medical profession. It had been, up until Jenner popularized the smallpox so 488 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:52.199 called vaccine, that a doctor was limited in his market to treating the sick. 489 00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:00.360 Yeah, and suddenly, once jenner smallpox vaccine came long, a doctor 490 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:07.440 had the opportunity to treat every single person in the society. And if they 491 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.079 could come up with a vaccine for numerous diseases, then that doctor could treat 492 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:19.440 them numerous times. And so we saw a major paradigm shift in what it 493 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.280 meant to be a doctor. Well, let me ask you a crazy question, 494 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.440 because you know this will not be a crazy question to you, I 495 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.920 think, but to some people it is one of those crazy things I ask 496 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.960 all the time. Um, you know, they're able to photograph a lot 497 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.920 of things on a microscopic level. Um, have you ever taken notice that 498 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:47.000 there is no photograph of a virus That there are illustrations, but there's no 499 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:53.079 microscopic photograph of any virus. Well, it's it's it's so extorted. This 500 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:59.119 is something we cover in depth in the documentary Serious about an hour, about 501 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.719 an hour into the first episode, we really we really go into it. 502 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.920 So yeah, it's it's it's so, it's just you can't you can't scratch 503 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:15.000 a single topic, uh, without you know, discovering the funky smell of 504 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.639 fraud all over it. So the photographs are the photographs are great. So, 505 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:24.400 Um, the photographs that are out there, if you look up Um, 506 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:30.239 you know, photograph polio virus, photographed stars Cove two. Uh, 507 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.480 you know, photographed measles virus and all this. Um, most of what 508 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.599 you'll see is an artistic rendition. The vast majority of what you'll see is 509 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:45.480 is some sort of CGI. Yes, okay, but but they're based on 510 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.039 what's called an electron micrograph photo. Okay, Um, and let's take them. 511 00:42:53.159 --> 00:43:01.719 We'll take stars Cove two as an example. So it's just I laugh 512 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:10.400 because it's so absurd. Um, they take they take snot from a patient 513 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.440 that they presume to have stars coved do they start with the assumption that the 514 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.960 person has COVID? Okay, they start with that as a scientific assumption. 515 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.760 Um. Then they take their snot. They put that snot in what's called 516 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:30.000 Eagles transfer medium, which is the saline solution with a number of antibiotics in 517 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.679 it. They bring that to the lab, they dump that in a cell 518 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:42.840 culture that's essentially a vial with monkey kidney cells in it. Okay, So 519 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:46.519 they take the snot, the antibiotics, the saline solution, they dump that 520 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:53.000 on monkey kidney cells. They add fetal bovine serum. So that's the that's 521 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:59.559 the blood of a cow fetus, and then they and then they add a 522 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:07.880 number of antibiotics again to that mixture, and they nix that about Um. 523 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:15.480 Then they take a tiny little bit of it and they they they shoot metals 524 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:22.480 at it, little tiny flex of metallic dust and they sort of cover the 525 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:30.079 whole thing with metallic dust and then they put that in the electron micrograph and 526 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:36.159 um, they zoom in to look at his size. They're presumed size of 527 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:42.119 a virus. I think it's twenty to thirty nanimeters I think is what they're 528 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:51.360 presumed sizes. And then if they see a circle, they say, Aha, 529 00:44:51.800 --> 00:45:00.760 that's the virus. Okay, okay, and what they do. I'm 530 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.079 not trying to I'm not trying to mock what you're saying, but I guess 531 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.360 I'm trying to mock what you're saying because this sounds crazy to me. Go 532 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.599 ahead, I'm sorry, It's totally crazy. There's a whole history to why 533 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.679 it's done that way, and it has nothing to do with the scientific method, 534 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:21.840 which has everything to do with fraud and finance. But what they don't 535 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:27.719 tell you is that there's all sorts of reasons why you could see a circle 536 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:34.159 after doing all of that, all sorts of reasons. And if you read 537 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:38.559 again, if you read the actual literature in this area, this is well 538 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:47.760 stated. It's well stated by a numerous scientists in published research that there is 539 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:54.000 absolutely no proof that if you see the shapes claimed to be stars Cove two 540 00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:01.840 in an electron micrograph, that they are sorry Cope too. You simply there 541 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:12.880 are there are many other reasons why you might see that shape, and not 542 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.159 only that, And so this was I mean not only that. You could 543 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.000 go on and on just just on this alone. So I mean just like 544 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:24.400 in UM, you know, some of the major kidney journals over the last 545 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:31.880 two years, Kidney KNY kidney scientists, UM, you use electron micrographs a 546 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.039 lot. So there's some of the more published writers in this area. They 547 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:45.519 have lambasted the papers in which it's claimed, um, that they have a 548 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.719 photograph the key papers and the key papers, and which is claimed that they 549 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.840 have a photograph of stars Cope two, and and they call for the retraction 550 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:57.920 of those papers and the retraction of those statements. And there's never been such 551 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:02.000 a retraction. Um. It's it's not only well known in the field that 552 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:09.639 you cannot make such an absurd claim, but it's actually been aggressively fought by 553 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.920 other scientists. But you know, not only is there no attraction in the 554 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.679 journals, there's there's obviously none of that ever makes it out to the general 555 00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.159 public. Um. So it's it's total nonsense. It's kind of like this. 556 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:30.000 It's kind of like, um if I claimed that if I if I 557 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:38.639 flew a plane over um, you know, Beijing, after I blew it 558 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:45.599 up fifty times with various bombs, and then I and then I took a 559 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:54.280 picture from from four hundred miles up above and I saw a circle. It's 560 00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:00.719 as if I claimed that that must be my grand father Paul, because he 561 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:07.760 had a hat that was circular. I mean, that's just wow. Um, 562 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.000 look it sounds it sounds like a lot of stuff gets revealed. And 563 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.440 I want to, you know, give you a few minutes here to really 564 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.440 go over what's in the film, because I bounced around ask a bunch of 565 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.199 different questions, but we got at some very interesting pieces here. I kind 566 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.679 of wish I had planned to do two or three hours with you, but 567 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.079 there's only so many in the day, and I mean the documentary is seven 568 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.760 hours long at this point. In five parts, right, Yeah, it's 569 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.159 it's seven and a half hours, five parts. And I'm telling you, 570 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.039 man, I got stuff on my hard drive that would blow you away that 571 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.679 never even made it into the cell. I mean, just yeah, no 572 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.519 one people about. Yeah, well, tell people about what's in there, 573 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.559 because you got all kinds of doctors, all kinds of scientists, I mean, 574 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.960 one statement after another after another, just in the trailer alone. Uh, 575 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.920 it's just like you're you're getting bombarded with all these different statements where they're 576 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.440 like, I don't understand how it is that nobody has called this out to 577 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.960 be the fraud that it is in general? Why has there not been a 578 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:13.840 mass chorus, uh, you know from everybody who actually cares about medicine, 579 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.639 you know, and science, you know, because they keep telling you trust 580 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:22.280 the science, trust the science. Well I might if it was scientifically done, 581 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.840 um, you know, if there was a scientific method here that was 582 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.840 being adhered to, if there was something other than you know, again that 583 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:36.760 this uh after the fact sort of. I mean the PCR test in and 584 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.920 of itself is something that I know you go into in the movie and uh, 585 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.280 you know again you're not you're not allowed to question that either even though 586 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.239 that makes no sense, you know when it comes to the testing that they 587 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.039 have and they're still mailing out those tests by the way, you know that 588 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.840 right, the pretesting. I mean, it's just it's just mind boggling that 589 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:59.400 that that anybody still falls for this nonsense. Just mind boggling. And really 590 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.440 it's a track. We'll give people a couple of highlights that they're gonna get 591 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.440 out of this because I mean, again, if you just watch the trailers, 592 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.119 your head's gonna start spinning. Uh. And again, I'll give you 593 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.800 the link, you know, in the show notes. I put it in 594 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.599 the chat room at Ocelli dot com. You can always roll that back if 595 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:20.760 you guys like, but it is over at Paradigm Shift uh dot. I'll 596 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.000 tell you an easier, an easier way. It goes to the dove Viral 597 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.320 Delusion dot com. The Viral Delusion. I didn't know that was a dot 598 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.159 com. I'm sorry, the Viral Delusion dot com. So I'll put that 599 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.599 link in the show notes as well. Go there, and uh, I 600 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.639 think part one you can actually watch for free right now. But again, 601 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.639 there are five parts to this um so yeah, go ahead and just give 602 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.280 us an idea what's in there? Because I don't want to keep you all 603 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.559 day. You know, it's I mean it's seven and a half hours. 604 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.360 This is jam pack with stuff. But I'll tell you a story. So 605 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.400 I one of the people that I was able to interview with Celia Farber Um. 606 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.440 If you don't know who she is, she was one of the most 607 00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.239 important AIDS journalists from from back in the day. And uh, you know, 608 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.960 AIDS was really um when I started thinking about the topic of this film, 609 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:12.159 which is that pharology is pseudoscience, that the whole thing is a scam. 610 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.480 AIDS was one of the things that got really hung up on. I 611 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.719 was like, well, you know, because I was I was listening to 612 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.440 these scientists and reading these doctors and scientists who were saying this, and I 613 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.960 was like, well, what about AIDS. So it wasn't just because of 614 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.079 the Anthony Fauci connection. Then it was no, no, no, it 615 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:32.159 goes It's really deep. It's really deep. Yeah. Yeah, um. 616 00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.639 I I did a whole hour and a half episode just on AIDS because if 617 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.960 you under if you can understand what happened in AIDS, then you can understand 618 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.880 what happened in COVID UM, COVID times. So I ended up I ended 619 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.880 up interviewing this this journalist, Celia Farber and and she was a young reporter 620 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:55.280 UM in the eighties UM when the government came out with its claim that HIV 621 00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:04.599 was the cause of AIDS UM and they had no scientific backing claim whatsoever. 622 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.480 They just came out they declared it. They just simply declared that they had 623 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:14.119 found a virus called HID that they named HIV and it's the cause of AIDS. 624 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:22.559 And they later they later sort of forced a number of articles into the 625 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.880 journal Nature that were supposed to support that claim, but they didn't whatsoever. 626 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:36.760 And we talked about this extensively in the film. But Celia was reporting on 627 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.880 this and for her it was a big deal because she interviewed Peter Dusberg. 628 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:49.920 Peter Dusberg was considered the greatest, most accomplished virologist in the United States at 629 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.400 the time. He was a professor at UC Berkeley, and he had received 630 00:52:54.039 --> 00:53:00.880 a number of National Academy of Science grants, which are the hardest grants essentially 631 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.519 in all of the scientific world to get because you don't have to even say 632 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.199 what you're going to use. The money for you. You're so esteemed, 633 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:15.599 you're so prestigious that you just get money from the government because you've proven yourself 634 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.440 your credentials. So he's considered basically the greatest broologists in the country, which 635 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.239 by the way, it is like saying the greatest unicornologist in the country. 636 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:24.800 I mean, it's it's really it's kind of a joke in in it itself. 637 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:29.159 But that being said, he had an extraordinary reputation in the field. 638 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:36.039 So he starts looking at this claim that HIV is the cause of AIDS, 639 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:43.079 and it's preposterous, and it's preposterous for numerous reasons, and so he publishes 640 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:49.199 an article in Cancer Monthly, which is a very prestigious cancer research magazine. 641 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.840 Cancer is relevant because the main symptom of AIDS at the time is carposi sarcoma, 642 00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:02.000 which is a cancer. And he publishes and he lays out, I 643 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:10.280 believe it was eighteen reasons why logically, uh, it could not be that 644 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.360 there was a virus uh that was causing AIDS, and that it and that 645 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:22.199 it could not be that it was the particular virus that they claimed um. 646 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:28.920 And so he publishes this this piece and Cancer Monthly and UM. Immediately he 647 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:35.880 is attacked by Fauci and the NIH and the entire government apparatus. UM. 648 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:42.079 They pull all his funding and they attempt to completely destroy him. And he's 649 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.400 trying to get the word out that this this is not UM, this is 650 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.639 not good science. What what what the government's putting out? And then people 651 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:54.800 are going to die because of it? Right and UM. And so eventually, 652 00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.920 because he's he's such a pre eminent figure, he's able to get the 653 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:07.920 attention of a major morning news show. It was like the Good Morning America 654 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.840 or something like that, And so they fly him to New York City and 655 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:16.239 they're going to do a morning show. Here's the country's most eminent virologist who's 656 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:21.440 saying that the government story about why people are getting sick is not true. 657 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:29.559 And about an hour before he is to show up on this major morning news 658 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.800 show, he gets a call and from from the station and they say, 659 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.599 I'm so sorry, mister Dusberg, but something very important has come up and 660 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:44.199 we cannot film your your interview. And so he stays in his hotel room 661 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.800 and he turns on the TV and he wants to see like what's on the 662 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.360 show, Like what came up that they had to cancel his interview, and 663 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:58.719 what he discovered was that instead of interviewing him that day, at the very 664 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:07.280 last minute, the station decided to interview Fauci instead. And so Faucci and 665 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:15.599 his machine had been following Dusberg and spying on him to such a degree that 666 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:22.519 they knew exactly who was going to be interviewing him and when, and were 667 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:28.400 able to pull enough levers to be able to censor those interviews and replace them 668 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:34.760 with Fauci himself. Wow. So this is the history that we're dealing with. 669 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.199 And you know, if you go back and you look at it, 670 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:46.239 it's this was a I mean, just an extraordinary number of unbelievably prestigious scientists 671 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:52.440 and doctors that tried to speak out and tell the country what was happening. 672 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.400 But you know, they were they were they were silenced like that over and 673 00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.880 over and over again. We have no you know, history and the public 674 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:08.559 consciousness for being able to interpret what's going on. It's all been censored and 675 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.159 deleted. Right. Well, if you dig into the age thing and you 676 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.639 get into like what Robert Gallo did and the controversy with HTLV three, and 677 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.199 you know, the misidentification of what was going on and all these things. 678 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:28.639 There is a whole huge bit of history there regarding AIDS that has been absolutely 679 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.840 buried now you know. And in my chat room, by the way, 680 00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:36.519 a question and I'm not sure about the origin of this question or why it's 681 00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.400 being asked, but since it is from a live listener, I want to 682 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:44.159 throw it at you. Are you aware of are you familiar with doctor Avis 683 00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:49.280 Snead? No? Not? Okay, well I will I will try and 684 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.119 get some information on that for you after the show. I'm not sure exactly 685 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.440 what that's about, because they want to know if you know, what happened 686 00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:58.599 to her. I don't know what she has to do with this, but 687 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:04.840 probably something relevant. Um. Anyway, back to the question at hand, 688 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.880 though, what is in this what is in this documentary? And again you 689 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:12.280 can go to uh the Viral Delusion dot com? I guess is the better 690 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.639 better way to get to it? Yep, yep, that's the best way 691 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.159 to get to it? And UM, yeah, just give you an overview. 692 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.559 UM. So the first episode as two and a half hours, is 693 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:25.079 completely free for anyone comes to the website. UM, and we completely unpack 694 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:30.559 the claim that a size cope too virus was ever found, and that it 695 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.800 was that it could be tested for, and that there is a specific disease 696 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:42.719 called COVID which it causes UH and based on the entire the entire science, 697 00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:46.320 so called scientific foundation of the pandemic. And then we go a little bit 698 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:53.920 into how could this possibly have emanated so deeply into our society when it's just 699 00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.440 pseudoscience. We we look at the sociology of it, very specifically withs and 700 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.480 so on, and then of course a little bit on the vaccine, so 701 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.159 we really look at COVID in the first episode. In the second episode, 702 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:13.159 we go back and we look at the history of virology, which really rose 703 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:19.280 to fame in the twentieth century. It's it's I mean, the entire field 704 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:25.840 started at the beginning of the twentieth century and due to an experiment in the 705 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:31.880 nineteen fifties in which it was claimed that the first virus had been isolated when 706 00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:39.039 it hadn't, we see the rise of virology and um this sort of new 707 00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:44.000 era of vaccines. In the third episode, we go back we look at 708 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.360 some of the like the claims about big diseases in the past, like what 709 00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.039 about the plague, what about the smallpox? What about the Spanish flu? 710 00:59:52.519 --> 01:00:00.840 And we we reinterpret what happened given the historical record. And then the fourth 711 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:06.280 episode we look at aids UM what what what is the actual history of aids 712 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:10.679 UM when you once you lift the censor off the scientists who had been trying 713 01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:15.599 to speak out at the time, and uh. And then finally in the 714 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.079 last episode, last episode is like for the hardcore junkie UM and uh, 715 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:28.519 it's okay, what is this whole genetic sequencing of of viruses um that the 716 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.239 scientific world keeps talking about? What does that mean? So you get into 717 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.000 the mr NAH the use of it and all this and where it's going, 718 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.400 because you know, this is continuing on right now. They're talking about releasing 719 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:46.840 possibly vaccines for heart disease and everything else, which I'm shaking my head. 720 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.039 There's a virus that causes heart disease? Now, I mean when did this 721 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.400 happen? Yeah, it's just it's absolutely bind boggling. I mean, they 722 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:59.559 have a vision for a whole new era of medicine in which um, they 723 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:07.480 are going to diagnose you and they are going to create the so called individualized 724 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:15.159 mRNA based medicine. For you specifically. But it's all junk. It's based 725 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:19.400 on junk science, and of course it's based on control. It's based on 726 01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:28.719 the idea that their scientific priesthood is going to be the ones to diagnose you, 727 01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.519 to say when you're dangerous or not dangerous, when you're going to be 728 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:37.039 sick or not going to be sick, to say that you are sick, 729 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:43.639 whether or not you're actually sick, and then to decide what the risk analyzes 730 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:49.239 will be on you taking medicine or not taking medicine, whether it's morally responsible 731 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.920 for you to have the choice of whether or not to take medicine or not 732 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:58.440 to take medicine. There's a very dystopian medical future that's out there as a 733 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.480 possibility. But but I think there's also a really strong uh you know, 734 01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:13.679 um uh recognition that this is a this is all uh you know, a 735 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.079 fraudulent house of cards, and uh that you know, we don't we don't, 736 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:22.440 we don't need this nonsense, um and that what we what we need 737 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:29.679 is the right to uh be able to make our own choices. And when 738 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.440 we make our own choices, then we become responsible and we become responsible for 739 01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.960 ensuring that we live in a clean environment, and that we eat good food, 740 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:43.360 and that we have access to good nutritious food, and we have access 741 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.639 to clean water, and we've access to clean air, and uh and hopefully 742 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:50.519 we can you know, turn this thing around a little bit. Well, 743 01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:52.400 you know what that actually leads to the very final thing I want you to 744 01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:57.559 comment on. We're going to close out the show on this note. Uh. 745 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.639 You know, I I wonder as I look at the dscape in the 746 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.719 way things have gone, and the fact that look, I become you know, 747 01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.840 one of those anti vax people. It happened incrementally, It happened through 748 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.920 my own experiences. Not going to get into it with you right now because 749 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:14.000 we are at the end of the show, but maybe we'll do a part 750 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:20.159 two here anytime, anytime, because it's necessary. Here's the big question in 751 01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:22.480 my mind. Do we stand a chance? Do you think? I mean, 752 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:28.559 because there's a great portion of the society which has accepted this nonsense that 753 01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.199 didn't want to question it. People like me that questioned it not being treated 754 01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.480 so well. They talked about, you know, demonetizing us. They talked 755 01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:39.599 about maybe we don't deserve to have jobs. You know, there were Hollywood 756 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.920 talking heads out there saying maybe we need to be pushed out of society even 757 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.639 because we refuse to take the shot. Okay, we refuse to let our 758 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.599 children take the shot. We're bad people. You know. Do we stand 759 01:03:53.599 --> 01:04:01.320 a chance collectively again regaining our sovereignty, regaining our ability to make these kinds 760 01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.199 of decisions for ourselves, to uh, you know, to not simply be 761 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.000 pushed into the collective? Uh? Do you think we actually stand a chance 762 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.960 of turning this back? Or is it? Is it too late for the 763 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.480 technocracy and all of that which has emerged here regarding this. Uh, I 764 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:23.400 hate to call it this, but medical tyranny is what we're facing. I 765 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.880 mean, do you think we stand a chance of turning this around? Is 766 01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:29.000 the ultimate question. I mean I go back and forth. I go back 767 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.440 and forth all the time. But you know, there's every one's in a 768 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.039 while, you get a little, um, you know, snippets of hope 769 01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.119 and uh, you know, and sometimes you get a little bit scared here 770 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.639 and there, like what's coming down on the road and what's next and all 771 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.960 that. But um, you know, there was just this last week. 772 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:48.039 I thought this was kind of uh an interesting reason for hope was that they 773 01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:53.119 launched this new campaign, and this new campaign, I think it's called the 774 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.440 Great catch Up or something like that, where they want to they want to 775 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:02.800 they want to push back to and and I thought it was so fascinating they 776 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:12.199 picked Chelsea Clinton as their spokesman for this new campaign. So and you think, 777 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:18.639 to yourself, this is amazing because you know, whatever some particular person 778 01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:24.679 might think of Chelsea Clinton, there's a good sixty percent of the country that's 779 01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:27.760 going to turn the TV off the minute she pops up and starts talking. 780 01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:32.000 At least sixty percent of the country, right, And so either of these 781 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:38.199 people who are running this campaign are insanely stupid, and I don't think they 782 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:46.199 are, or they are facing a situation where their own base is deserting them 783 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:55.880 so rapidly that they had to pick a die hard liberal Democrat in order to 784 01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:02.079 shore up their own base that they they've basically said, Okay, we've lost 785 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:09.880 fifty sixty seventy percent of the country. We're just worried about them people that 786 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:15.519 have always been with us. I think that's a sign that the tables have 787 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:20.559 turned tremendously in the public consciousness, and um, you know, we'll just 788 01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:25.199 keep well, I'll just keep kind of digging away and and and you know, 789 01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:30.119 talking having conversations like this. You know what else can we do all 790 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:34.599 the days? Exactly? The Viral Delusion dot com. Go there, check 791 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:39.440 it out. Get the first episode free. But there are five parts too. 792 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:44.000 I guess we'll call them episodes of this documentary. Mike Wallack has been 793 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.920 my guest, and uh, I dare say, we're gonna have to do 794 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:50.320 a part too, So we'll do that. And Mike says he'll do it, 795 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.800 so I'm gonna hold him to it. In the next couple of weeks, 796 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.000 we'll bring him back and talk about this a little more. The Viral 797 01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.840 Delusion dot Com Get the documentary. The Ocelly effect is over for tonight. 798 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.800 So no matter who you are, where you are, when you are, 799 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:33.199 remember I'm merely Ocelly and all of you are indeed the effect. Wall Street, 800 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:44.599 Theindow dot very silver, the stock market, Wall Street, the window 801 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:49.199 dot dot Perhaps you're invested deeply, perhaps you're not in deep enough. 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