WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:28.320 Hey everyone, it's two Tuesday, October twenty five, twenty eleven, and 2 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:32.000 you are listening to the Giant BombCast. I'm Ryan Davis. Let's take it 3 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:37.439 around the table. Many caravelas here listening to Giant BombCast is here. I'm 4 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:39.880 not listening to the Giant Podcast. You're not. You're making it happen. 5 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.679 You don't listen to it, you live it. And Brad Shoemakers here, 6 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.560 Brad tell us about eating too many altars. Why would you eat? Like, 7 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:51.039 first, first of all, I compulsively eat altoids, Okay, so 8 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.320 those as, Yeah, so I just ate like eight or ten of them. 9 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:56.799 It's easy. It's like two minutes. Once you get into like a 10 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.240 good altoy's habit. It's way too easy to start up in the annie just 11 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.039 like yeah, like five at a time here, crunch, crunch, crunch 12 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.840 three at a time minimum for me, though, Oh no, you built 13 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.640 you build up talleran you know, bliss decks or any kind of lip balmb 14 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:10.640 like. Once you get on it, it's hard to get out on it, 15 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.319 yeah, because the lips will just fry. So a bunch of altoys 16 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.359 is one thing, But then to drink a cold glass of water directly after. 17 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.480 I once made myself pass out by by eating a bunch of altoys really 18 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.560 quickly and then taking like three or four deep breaths just like it just caused 19 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:30.000 the hyperventilation effect to happen way more quickly. Well ahead, rush yeah. 20 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.879 Wow, it's like had such an extreme out there for you kids. I'll 21 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:38.799 be right back. It's not working this. This was like a fun high 22 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:40.840 school trick. If any how, you doing doing all right? You're eating 23 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:44.120 too many altoys later? Oh never, this guy's clean. You know you 24 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.560 don't like altoys. I don't even altoys have a good time, but you 25 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.879 know, it just enhances it. It's you know, we're having fun anyway. 26 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.000 It just makes it better. Whatever, dumb that chicken your turkey just 27 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.680 makes your breath that much. I want to share around with you guys anymore. 28 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.519 You know what, that's your right, and as your as your friend's 29 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:04.159 supposed to play, I'll let you. That's okay, I understand it. 30 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.960 That's that's the correct way for this after school special to end. He has 31 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.680 shunned, but he's a better person for it. And then Jeff dies in 32 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:17.120 a car crash. That's fun to the library. Oh man, I don't 33 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:23.560 know what. They don't want me to take altoys. I'm on nine right 34 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.400 now. Oh no, I gotta tell you, man, you gotta stay 35 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.360 off this out to its kid. What you start eating, you can't stop. 36 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.080 I'm out of here. Let's go play some video games. I played 37 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.960 Batman. Did you play some Batman? Yeah, like the rest of the 38 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.400 world, did you. Did you enjoy Batman? I'm enjoying it. Yeah, 39 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:44.479 yeah, I'm I'm hunting down things like Batman. Are you? Are 40 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.840 you sticking to the to the ringing every last bit of collective every everything that 41 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.039 pops up on that map. You're like, I got to Batman. I 42 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.120 gotta go get that. Yeah. Some given that game one thousand Batman Man, 43 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.400 I one Batman for every time you see something one thousand Batman hours. 44 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.319 I've spent a lot of time just rum around that city doing stupid things. 45 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:05.560 There are a lot of Riddler trophies in that game. Yep, too many, 46 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.759 I'm gonna say, I would agree, Yeah, And then there are 47 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.280 Riddler riddles. Not enough of those. And then there are Catwoman trophy Riddler 48 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.879 trophies, Yeah, there should be zero Catwoman trophies. And then uh, 49 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.280 there are balloons you can pile, uh, And there are penguins you can 50 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.639 bust, and there are Harley Quinn heads everything. Wait, do you get 51 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.719 anything for doing that stuff? Respect the ridd the Riddler. Respect The Riddler 52 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.080 loves it when you bust up stuff. Yeah, those are all part of 53 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.439 the part of the Riddler challenges Vinny. Vinny doesn't have to flip it on 54 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.719 and off the light switch ten times before he goes to bed. Now, 55 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.000 so the uh, I don't understand how it's broken out, knows like, 56 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:45.080 I don't neither any one of those lines. I don't know how. I 57 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.000 don't know if it's more. Is that how you unlocked the challenge rooms? 58 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.520 I don't know. I don't care. It's a lot of stuff for the 59 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.400 Riddler. He wants you to do a lot of stuff, and he's and 60 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.680 then he's got his own little the Riddlers demanding h So you know what it 61 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.439 does do And I don't know if it's just trophies or not, but it 62 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.400 progresses the next step in the Riddler. Yeah, he's taking a bunch of 63 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.800 hostages. And then yeah, then you get to do some really kind of 64 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:13.159 easy little you complete a number of Riddler challenging things. All right, all 65 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.399 right, you can play my next game and then don't. So, yeah, 66 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:19.399 I'm enjoying the Batman. If they've been doing like three of those by 67 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.600 the time by the end, by the time you're done, okay, I've 68 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.959 only done two, and I keep feeling like, man, it's like four 69 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:30.000 hundred Riddler trophies a lot, and uh, I don't know it's a lot. 70 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.600 I had a hundred and thirty or something by the end or something. 71 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.879 So even though you can see him, some of them you can't get until 72 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.680 you get special gadgets and stuff too, which is kind of frustrating because you 73 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.399 don't know what the gadget's going to be, and you don't know if you 74 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.240 don't if you have it or not. And so it's actually spent a good 75 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:49.839 portion of the game expecting there to be a gadget that didn't exist to some 76 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.480 stuff too, and then realize like, oh wait, no, I just 77 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:55.839 need to use the remote control battery and in a different way that I've been 78 00:04:55.920 --> 00:05:00.800 using it. I had a revelation that you could use the bray Gael to 79 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.920 trigger those to bust those question marks. Oh yeah, and you can lay 80 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.120 down and you can lay down three sails at a time. Oh shit, 81 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.399 yeah exactly, And I was like, oh, this is much easier than 82 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:15.920 trying to fling three really quick batterings and they just pop them all at the 83 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.439 same time. So there's a pro tip. Read my guide. Yeah, 84 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:29.399 yeah, I accidentally did it and I was like, oh shit, motherfucker, 85 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.360 it's not hard at all. Oh. Now these ones where I've been 86 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.160 like, because a lot of them, you click one and it's like you 87 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.680 got five seconds to get the rest of them. You just you can't. 88 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.720 And it's like, I get three at a time, what do you want? 89 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:44.399 Uh man? So yeah, So there's the world's greatest detective. A 90 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.639 tell me about it. So the problem with the world's greatest detective is that 91 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:55.360 the world's greatest detective only frustrates me. This clinchingly frustrating. When you've spent 92 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.560 all this time trying to track down this psychopathic killer. There are many of 93 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.240 them in this city. Guys are brutal, full of psychopathic killers. They're 94 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.879 brutal, and they're just cutting dudes up. They're taunting you with hanging bodies, 95 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.879 and they're just cutting cops in front of you. And you get them 96 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.079 after all this nonsense, and you're like, all right, take a seat, 97 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.480 because I don't kill people. That's not how Batman does. Sit in 98 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:21.000 this corner and don't don't escape. I'm gonna wag my finger. I'm gonna 99 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.920 I'm gonna go get this other. Don't leave. You're gonna sit there and 100 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.839 think about what back. Yeah, which is also kind of weird. I 101 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.639 don't know the whole the whole conceit with the Arkham City thing they did, 102 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:32.920 it is weird. They try and explain it, and they try and weave 103 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.000 a story around it, and they've got a lot of gravitize don't but they're 104 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:42.279 just well, yeah, wellating stuff along the way that explains what I imagine 105 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.560 it must have been in the comics book that I have just met Bridge. 106 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.639 So they put out comics, that's set up. They put They put out 107 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.480 a Batman comic book exactly. Is all this co marketing? I got it. 108 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.439 I got at least they weren't motion comic. I got it with my 109 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.759 copy of Batman that I got from from Amazon's and I have comics. I 110 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.000 have to good Drew credit for that joke too, And he said, there's 111 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:09.120 a Batman comic book Jesus. Uh so does that stuff set up? I 112 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.439 haven't read it. Apparently it sets up why Arkham City is happening, because 113 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.360 it doesn't. It just seem like the worst idea. Yeah, like how 114 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.079 do Hugo straight? Like, first off, Hugo strains like let's let's blow 115 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.240 the whistle on putting him in charge of the craziest Yeah. And then and 116 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.720 then also like why would we cut off? Like this seems like a pretty 117 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:29.160 big part of you know, Gotham and you know, pretty prime real estate. 118 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.879 Right we already had Arkham Asylum, like that was already a place designed 119 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.680 for the crazy. Why why anybody let him do that? Does seem a 120 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:40.639 little questionable, But it is also immediately but like minute one, it seems 121 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.720 like it's just a front for something more than affair. I have found enough 122 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.680 stuff to to kind of flesh out how he was able to get away with 123 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.199 it, Like there's there's yeah, but it's comic book style, like hey, 124 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:55.519 guess what these guys can control your mindst it all in the game. 125 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.040 Yeah. I found stuff that there's like all these like Arkham Cities story things. 126 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.240 You little vignetcee, you can read it's all side stuff that you collect, 127 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.319 yeah, and then you can go read some texts. And there was 128 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.920 a ton of that stuff in Arkham Asylum as well. True. Yeah, 129 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.720 there's definitely a lot of collectible stuff and more some audio recording stuff. But 130 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.720 it's a terrible idea, the part where the population allows it to happen, 131 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.079 like, yeah, okay, we'll move out right. Yeah, that's so 132 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.360 I don't know, the mayor saying it's probably a good idea. I don't. 133 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.839 Yeah, put all these guys in this giant death city, okay, 134 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.920 okay, in the middle of all the third of our city it was walled 135 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:33.919 off. That's fine. Yeah, I haven't really quite found in my backyard. 136 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.000 Be fair. Gotham kind of sucks already. It's not like they were, 137 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.360 you know, rolling into Metropolis going to some nice place. It's like 138 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:45.679 it's fucking Gotham, Like, yeah, I guess whatever. And this this 139 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.480 takes place not too long after asylum, right, six months, and then 140 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.960 they got those walls up real quick because the whole city as these gigantic walls 141 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.399 around it. No technology for gas, they're fast, I don't know. 142 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.679 Anyway, After you get past that part, the part we stranges contracting buddies. 143 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.080 They're good, but it's all about no, no, no, it's 144 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.240 everyone's in everyone else's back pocket. No, because all those contract and buddies 145 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.440 getting locked up and then they're political prisoners that you have to save. That's 146 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.919 right, which I love the idea of political prisoners, the good prisoners. 147 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.720 Yeah yeah, good, Like how they justify like, well, here, 148 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.000 you're trying to save this guy. How do we convey to the player that 149 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.440 he's not a raper? There isn't there there is an oracle prison. There's 150 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.639 an oracle conversation though, where she's like, why are you saving these PRIs? 151 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.360 Why are you worried about saving these prisoners? And Batman's kind of like 152 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.679 some of these guys got thrown in here. They were just like lines of 153 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.399 dialogue that they had to come up with, like real what they probably realized 154 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.879 what one day like yeah, oh man, it's just kind of like okay, 155 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.639 yeah, whatever, but you know, there was there was someone there. 156 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.360 He was like, no, he should just save because I'm fucking Batman. 157 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.600 Any decision that I make is based on the fact that I'm Batman. 158 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.559 He kind of does. He's he's more of a dick in this one than 159 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.279 he was in Arkham's sund like he's got a couple of guys that are, 160 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.440 like, you know, chipping in for him, right, And every time 161 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.200 he's like, are sure about this bad Yes, well listen, I'm sure 162 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:03.840 cut and like he just goes on. He is the Batman. He is. 163 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.279 He's kind of a dick, a real big dick to a lot of 164 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.080 people. He was a big meani to Bane. I met Bane last night 165 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.840 for the first time. Yeah, he's forgot it doesn't kill people. He 166 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:20.960 hurts with his words, he really does. He hurts more the scone's cut 167 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.080 this man. This game doesn't have as many moments as the first one did 168 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.159 where someone says like he's gonna go do this just no, he's not. 169 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.279 Doesn't have as much of that, enough of it where you're like, you 170 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.039 know, what's worse than when Batman's angry at you is when he's disappointed. 171 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.399 Yeah, hurts the most when he just walks away and you're just yelling, 172 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.679 shaking his head, something wrong, bad man. I'm gonna escape in three 173 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.399 months seen in the next game. So that's that part's really fresh. The 174 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.440 game game kind of collectible. Then the game is kind of overwhelming to anybody 175 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.600 at all. It seems like there's a lot going on at one time. 176 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:03.320 They definitely launch into hey you can do all this side stuff right from the 177 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.840 get go kinda, but at this point, now there's it's it's I have 178 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.000 the paths as I'm going, I have like threads that can follow if I 179 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.480 want. Because some stuff comes to a dead end and they're like, Okay, 180 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.480 you can't complete this until some more stuff happens. The Riddler stuff just 181 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.919 keeps popping up all over the place, though, and that's overwhelming because now 182 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.559 that's my ride. I just stopped spending time getting looking at trophies. It's 183 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.440 just like, if it's a trophy I can easily get, I get it, 184 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.440 but I'm not going to spend any time on any of this stuff. 185 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:30.799 The nice thing is you can track it to your map, which is cool, 186 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.080 so you can just kind of like if you see one you're like, 187 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.799 I'm not doing Riddler stuff. Now you can kind of take a picture of 188 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.960 it and it'll put it on your map forever. So or if you interrogate 189 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.279 the Riddler guys, you just get a whole section filled in with question marks. 190 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.000 Are there are there incremental milestones with collecting trophies, like every fifty trophies 191 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.240 you get X or the collecting the trophies and completing that stuff is what triggers 192 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.480 the Riddler side missions. Okay, and I don't know if that stuff actually 193 00:11:54.559 --> 00:12:00.960 keeps on. I guess there are reasons to start getting the Riddler trophies even 194 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.639 if you don't intend to get all of the trophies. Sure, yeah, 195 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.240 okay, yeah, I mean some of the I mean whatever. At some 196 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.679 point, I would like to punch the Riddler in the face, but I'd 197 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.720 like to take the Ridder out, but that's not gonna happen. You have 198 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.000 to do everything to do that, so I don't know. Some cool scenes 199 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.840 happen. There was one scene that was kind of funny with han't gotten the 200 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.639 Riddler stuff. There's a part and I guess I'll just ask you later the 201 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.440 Tiger Security parts. So there's some stuff that's almost like Metroid style, like 202 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:28.000 you can't access any of this stuff because you don't have the codes or the 203 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.919 weapon or whatever. That stuff can be frustrating because it's not like it comes 204 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.519 up and says I should come back here when I have the certain weapons. 205 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.600 Some stuff does some stuff he's like I don't have the code for this, 206 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.080 but some stuff I spent a couple of minutes just trying to be like, 207 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.240 this gotta be a way to get around here, and then finally just gave 208 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.399 up on it. And they're like, all right, probably needs something else 209 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.279 to do. But there's totally stuff like that in Arkham Asylum as well. 210 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.080 Yeah, like you didn't have the right upgrade for the battering or whatever. 211 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.720 Yeah, although that was usually pretty clear of like this is a different textured 212 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.159 wall, or this has a target on it that I can't right, this 213 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.519 is more like I don't recognize. This is a little more of like you 214 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.759 don't have the optional upgrade to get this, and like you don't even know 215 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.399 you don't have the optional upgrade. There's a there's an upgrade for the line 216 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.840 gun or whatever that shoots. There's there's gun that shoots a tight rope. 217 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:16.879 Yeah, behind you and forward, there's an upgrade that you can get to 218 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.639 stand on it, and you need that to get a couple of trophies. 219 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.799 And I didn't even realize that was a thing until I checked it out. 220 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.960 So get those upgrades. Still ripping off lots of grates and crawling through yep, 221 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.480 tight spaces, choking dudes out doing Batman shit came that bud yep RB 222 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.720 A lot a lot of back claw on this one, because it's all the 223 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:46.039 city. I do not like grappling while flying. I think it's not handled 224 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.320 especially well. It was one of those things that for the early parts of 225 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.000 the game it seems a little clunky, but as soon as you get used 226 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.759 to it, it's totally fine. I think this shoe seems to be I 227 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.320 don't know if the camera's actually locked while you're gliding or if it's just your 228 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.600 preoccupied with trying to glide as opposed to move the camera around, but it 229 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.120 seems like you end up grappling onto things you can't see a lot of the 230 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.080 time. Yeah, that's true, but you know, they give you that 231 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.960 icon let you know when there's stuff around to grapple onto. It's it's doable. 232 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.240 The only the only thing. You get a lot of gadgets, I'm 233 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.039 not a point at Yeah, and then you kind of double up that wheel 234 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.639 pretty quickly. So I've got a lot of stuff, and they map in 235 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.080 the fights, they map a lot of stuff to at least four things to 236 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.399 the quick quick shot, five things is that the RB gets one too. 237 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.200 Nope, it's a double tap left trigger, double tap right trigger and then 238 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.879 hold down left it double tap right triggers. Yeah, you haven't gone that 239 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.519 yet, okay. Uh. And so that stuff, man, they give 240 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.759 you a lot yea and uh and you have more that you can select from 241 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.000 the menus. Uh. So it's probably a good thing. I find a 242 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.720 little I don't know, counter and punch dudes a lot. And yeah, 243 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:52.519 there were a lot of things that I pretty much never used, like the 244 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.720 disruptor and it's really cool and kind of a funny thing to do, but 245 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.519 not all that useful in practice. Still, I didn't use it a lot 246 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:03.279 in front. Yeah, so I'm still trying to figure out exactly how best 247 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.039 do you use that stuff. So far, the best method for me is 248 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.799 definitely sneak until you get caught, like basically snuff guys out until they find 249 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.360 you, and then kind of Batman or Arkham Asylum style, if it gets 250 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.440 too hair you get the hell out of there and and wait for them to 251 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.320 kind of go off and do their thing and try and sneak back and take 252 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.519 out the guys with the guns. Guns will still take you down, I 253 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:28.679 think It's funny that that Jeff you had no issue with the gliding stuff and 254 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.759 Brad you took issue with it, because I feel like this is the flip 255 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.960 flop from just Cause to where Jeff you were never able to get a grip 256 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.399 of the gliding mechanics. There. It seems like there's a pretty close parallel 257 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:45.600 as far as how those mechanics ought to work grabbing lower stuff, and then 258 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.679 I guess in this case, you're grabbing higher stuff, stepping up to it, 259 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.000 letting go as you're kind of reaching the apex, and then using that 260 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.320 momentum when you when you boost, he automatically shoots past it. Yeah, 261 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.360 so like you basically you get this upgrade for your grapple gun. If you 262 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:02.960 don't have it, you just zip into something and he grabs it right. 263 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.159 And once you get the upgrade, you can double tap the A button, 264 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:07.480 so you hit A once to launch into it, and you can hit A 265 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.960 again while you're zooming and he always shoots past it. Okay, so he'll 266 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.759 always just go whoop. It's it's really just for blowing past stuff. Uh, 267 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.440 you move pretty quickly. I don't know the diving gliding stuff, like 268 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:22.960 I don't use it all that off, it's not as useful as it might 269 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.519 initially. See, Yeah, apposed to just like grabbling on everything and going 270 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.279 around that way, right, yep. But it's fun. There's a lot 271 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:34.320 of side stuff to do that I found that that's keeping me occupied. The 272 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.200 Riddler stuff is kind of all the trophies, it's overwhelming. Yeah, it's 273 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.320 just too much. It's just like every you look, there's like, here's 274 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.440 three more just sitting out of the city. Yeah. I would have been 275 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.360 happy with a quarter of the trophies, and even as many as the riddles. 276 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:51.039 The riddles are kind of more fun than the trophies because there's just fewer 277 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.799 of them. The Detective Mode stuff, I don't I'm really I'm liking it. 278 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.639 It's it's got great polish on it, my batsuits getting all messed up 279 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:03.639 and torn up and ripped up. The realizations of the main characters and not 280 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.480 even being a huge DC fan or fun. You know, they're over the 281 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.480 top and ridiculous and stupid, and I don't know where they find all these 282 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.920 guys who have such crazy personalities, but they're out there. You want to 283 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.759 talk about Rocksmith, Yes, uh so we got a bunch. We got 284 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.000 some Rocksmith. We played a bunch. We actually did record some stuff for 285 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.160 it, but I think I think we're gonna rerecord some stuff for it. 286 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:27.400 Ryan, you sat in with me. We did a Yeah, we did 287 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.759 a quick look, recorded a quick look last week of Rocksmith, which is 288 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:36.680 Ubisoft's not a game but a guitar trainer. I would say more like a 289 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.400 teaching aid. It's well, it's one of like entertainment in a way because 290 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:41.759 there are some kind of you know, mini games stuff. You do play 291 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.039 some stuff, but it's all meant to be in service of learning guitar. 292 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.400 This is how you play guitar, right, because you're you're plugging an actual 293 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.720 electric guitar in, Like there's a quarter inch to USB adapter that comes with 294 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:57.000 the game. Yes, switches that into your console and then it's just it 295 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:02.000 just starts picking up whatever you're you're out putting. Yeah, so here's a 296 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:03.920 weird thing. I don't know how this happened. I don't know enough about 297 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.799 how this all works. I turned the volume up at home kind of loud. 298 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.640 I started getting feedback. I would make sense if it was loud enough 299 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.799 that it would vibrate the strings at the same man, it wasn't that loud, 300 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.960 and it was weird. Anyway, you're real, you're real light light 301 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.160 gage strings on that guitar. That's super light. Maybe I was just standing 302 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.480 real close to the speakers. That was fun. And you get feedback on 303 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:32.559 a video game, maybe it's totally love it. Maybe it's simulated. Maybe 304 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.240 it's not even real feedback. So yeah, just just to get out of 305 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.720 the way, we will we will definitely put something up some kind of coverage 306 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.839 of that game up the without our normal setup for recording. Uh. It 307 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.839 was kind of a bear and it's problems abound in that thing. But I 308 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.119 did take it home and I played a much played a lot more of it, 309 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:56.400 and it's cool. It does what I think that uh piece of software 310 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:04.160 intends to intends to do. Uh, but it's not really gonna be interesting 311 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.880 to people who aren't out to learn guitar. A you probably won't have a 312 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.839 guitar and you'd have to buy the big bundle which would come with a guitar. 313 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:18.039 Do you know what? Do you know what? I think it's it's 314 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:19.720 I think it's less Paul, and I think it's some kind of uh, 315 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.440 well, it's a. It's probably an epiphone styles Paul, and I think 316 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:30.559 it's like a two hundred and a guitar. Yeah, so I wouldn't expect 317 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.240 anything too great. The game makes you tune since it's all pitch based. 318 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.440 It's it's not there's not MIDI or anything like that. It's all it's all 319 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:41.799 detecting pitch from the guitar. Makes you tune your strings. Uh, every 320 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.839 time you start something new, every new song, every which is using any 321 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:51.079 weird like alternate tunings. Uh. The game hasn't presented any of that stuff, 322 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:52.079 so I don't know if they will at some point. I haven't gotten 323 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.160 that far to have to do that. So it's a guitar rock game. 324 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:59.559 You gotta get your drop dal and at one point it would be interesting if 325 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.759 they did. It doesn't seem like that's the kind of rock that's soundtrack. 326 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.480 Yeah, it's weird. I did see stuff that when I was we were 327 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.680 going through that song last some stuff did it. Mostly it said standard tuning, 328 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.680 standard tuning, so it might it does. So it does the tech 329 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.279 pitch and you tune the guitar through the game. But it's very fast. 330 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.720 It's just like all right, pluck each string one at a time, very 331 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:22.599 quickly, and it's like, cool, you're still in tune. So I 332 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.160 do kind of wish there was an option or something that I kept track of, 333 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:27.200 like, Okay, your guitar is good enough to stay in tune. 334 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:33.279 We're gonna trust that you know you're cool on this. Maybe every other yeah, 335 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.400 well we'll start off every other. I can't understand, because you would 336 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.920 have a terrible experience of your guitar ward at tune you didn't know. Uh. 337 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:44.720 And and the game is really interesting in the way it progresses you. 338 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.440 And this is again part of why this probably is not best classified as a 339 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.599 game. Every song starts you off mildly. It's not like you select a 340 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:57.200 difficulty setting. It's like we're gonna drop you in with just single notes and 341 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:02.759 we're gonna work you up to on a more advanced stuff for every song you 342 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.119 start. And if you're doing well during a song, during a certain phrase 343 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:08.680 of a song, by that, I just mean, like, you know, 344 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.799 like the riff you're playing every time that riff appears, if you have 345 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.759 done well, and then the first time, you'll get the more advanced version 346 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.279 later on the song. But if you're up to a new riff'ly you're literally 347 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.039 starting with holding one string, like you're not even doing simple for this early 348 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.880 stuff. Yeah, later on it gets more advanced and you can just go 349 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.759 in and practice a song until you master it, which is kind of fun. 350 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.519 Just each a little riff and I'll start off again pretty easy, and 351 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.680 you're just playing that riff over and over again. It's like, all right, 352 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.160 you level literally just like level up, and it starts starting more at 353 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:41.559 you, and it's like, all right, level up and you get like 354 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.720 five lives to do it in, which I think is kind of weird. 355 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.680 So they are trying to throw some game stuff in there at you. But 356 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.680 again, if your ultimate goal really isn't to learn how to play guitar, 357 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.440 it's not a party game. But by knowing me, unless you are hanging 358 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.920 out with all guitar friends and are like, let's all see how well we 359 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:04.880 could play in bloom and it's like, yeah, all right, whatever, 360 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.519 man, I could play that while I was dead, so easy, and 361 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.640 then like, yeah, check out my you know, Rocksmith Point collection, 362 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.920 which you know, it's all kind of in the service of learning to play 363 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:18.160 an instrument, which I think is fantastic, but I don't think it's something 364 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.799 that you're like gonna buy for somebody who is like I bought you, you 365 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.759 know, like the rock band, right, you really like rock band? 366 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.480 And now here try this game out and like this is hurting my fingers a 367 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:33.039 lot. So it sounds like it's it's yeah, it's an application. This 368 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.799 is not but it's well done. Yeah. There are like mini games in 369 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:41.119 it to try and help you again in the service of learning your instrument, 370 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.119 which are kind of goofy, and you know, it's like you gotta shoot 371 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.720 ducks going down a track by by putting, by striking the right fret on 372 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.759 a single string, and it's like just basically to make you not look at 373 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.200 the guitar neck and look at the screen. Uh, And I'll be like 374 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.279 you one to you know whatever it is twenty one and you just gotta shoot 375 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.480 him. You know, they're goofy. It looks like, you know, 376 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.799 it's like a Gallagha rip off or whatever. Right. Uh. Yeah, 377 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:08.039 it's got a good way to build up muscle memory. That's exactly what they're 378 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:11.799 trying. Yeah, and maybe not that much, but it's it's a lot. 379 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.880 It's a lot of plays, a repetition doing it over and over again, 380 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.680 and they're trying to like they've you know, everybody has done since the 381 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.839 dawn of time, is to try and make that fun for people. Right, 382 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.359 It's like, here's this really shitty thing you're gonna have to do. 383 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.440 Practice. It's an exercise. Hey, Like what if I make it bright 384 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.839 colors and like try and fool you into like practicing every day. And it's 385 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.920 like, okay, you got me create some sort of metagame to speak you 386 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.640 keep doing it. But I'm enjoying it. And it really is one of 387 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:44.480 those things where once you are playing the song on one hundred percent mastery, 388 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.839 you are really playing that song and this time for real on a guitar. 389 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:51.559 Uh and it does chords and does everything else. And since it's pitch bass, 390 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:55.240 you can bend strings and do all sorts of nonsense like that. If 391 00:23:55.240 --> 00:24:00.160 you have a guitar and uh and and you're interested in something to compliment you're 392 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.160 learning or just kinda have fun with it. I do recommend it. It's 393 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.640 it's pretty cool, But you don't think it's suitable as a standalone teaching tool. 394 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.440 Uh. It's hard for me to say, yeah, you know, 395 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:14.799 I'm kind of coming at it with with a with a little more knowledge than 396 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.799 is probably the ideal level. Yeah, well, I don't know. It 397 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.920 does start off really slowly and you can't skip. I've started it twice now 398 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:23.440 and he kind of can't skip through some of that early stuff and that's kind 399 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.839 of a pain. But I don't know. It'd be interesting to talk it 400 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.920 to somebody who's never played a guitar before and see if, like this doesn't 401 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.599 make any sense to me, this is overwhelming, Like the way the notes 402 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.839 come down are completely different than rock Band or Guitar Hero for good reason. 403 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:40.559 You know, they probably don't want to pay all that licensing, but also 404 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.880 the I feel like they like they it's it's a different way of presenting that 405 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.000 information. But when you think about it, trying to present like that much 406 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.759 like there's a lot that you need to say of like all right, this 407 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.559 string this frame, and we're gonna use it, and we're gonna shin like 408 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.799 like you know, three or four strings at once that you need to hit 409 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.039 at this specific time. I think it's actually really good. Yeah, I 410 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:04.079 think the timing on the little on the spinning bars seems like it's at least 411 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.839 helpful, Like you can you have like a visual representation of Okay, that's 412 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.000 you know, that's this mini beats away when it's in this position. So 413 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.799 it's kind of hard to explain how it comes down. But it does give 414 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.079 you a little more heads up too into what's coming uh, instead of just 415 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.599 like you know, trying to site read this stuff. It does. It 416 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.200 does show you what to anticipate is coming up. It's kind of hard to 417 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.000 explain. Well, we'll do some more video of it and explain it better 418 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.759 that way. But again, it's cool. And that's a that's Xbox p 419 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.000 S three and I think PC as well. Yeah, it's on all of 420 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.920 them. Lag is a little weird if you're and they say they repeat this 421 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.039 throughout all the packaging and even in the game. They want you to run 422 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:47.000 out analog audio into whatever sound system you have and don't go through the HDMI 423 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.720 to try and reduce the lag as much as possible. Again, it's repeated 424 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.680 throughout everything that has a set up in this game. The worst, the 425 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:56.960 worst thing you could do, apparently, according to the game, is go 426 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:02.920 HDMI int your TV. I guess that introduces the worst lag of everything. 427 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.440 Yeah, so I don't know they're like at least at least this is the 428 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.680 direction on the p S three version. We don't know. Yeah, it 429 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:14.440 is everything three sixty, but I looked it up and I think I think 430 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.680 they want you to use the analog outs from the three sixty as well. 431 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:22.759 So yeah, so heads up on that. I'm running it h GM into 432 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.160 the into my sound system. Was takes HDMI in and then HM that into 433 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.319 TV. That's fine, Like there is a little bit of lag, but 434 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:37.880 it's not killing it for me. And and again you're it's it's kind of 435 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.599 a teaching tool, and they're pretty They give me a lot of leadway, 436 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.039 like you can ring the string before the note hits. And since it's pitch 437 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.960 based, it detects that that pitch is being played. It gives it to 438 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.359 you, so like you could be. It's pretty forgiving. And I don't 439 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:57.039 mind because I'm not trying to get five stars on a song. I'm trying 440 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.799 to learn how to play in bloom again. Twenty years later, have you 441 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.559 have You all over again? For the first time, learned how to play 442 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:08.440 in bloom I have It's funny. First First up, tune your six string 443 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.880 down the D that's right, No, in bloom NIRVN. I think they 444 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.440 actually did tune a half step down, but they're they're not dropp d for 445 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.480 most as far as I know. Uh, it's fun, it's it's it's 446 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.799 a cool piece of software, but not a game. I would not buy 447 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:29.279 this for anybody and say, hey, win this game. What is well? 448 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.000 I think you can have fun, but again, you need to have 449 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.079 fun in the context of like, man, I really wanted to learn guitar. 450 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:40.279 This is a fun way to learn instead of like I break out Rocksmith 451 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.200 for my party. Right, don't use my guitar because I want you to 452 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.400 break it. You know, what's what guitar are you playing with? Uh? 453 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.160 I've tried it only on I've got it just it's funny. It's probably 454 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.079 a similar guitar that comes with it's a EPI fun last pall. Uh. 455 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:57.880 I haven't hooked it up to any of my other guitars yet, but I 456 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:03.039 assume it works. It works with your cheapest guitar works. Hey, I'll 457 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.160 call my guitars cheap. Weirdest part of that whole game, I realize that 458 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.519 now that I've had that guitar for twenty years, which is weird guitar played 459 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.400 in Bloom when it was first out and you're trying to figure it out. 460 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.640 When I was opening up books, when I when they had the tablet shirt 461 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:21.160 for in Bloom in like Guitar magazine, Like, hey, you're learning how 462 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.640 to play black Hole Sun twenty hot riffs. Uh so, yeah, that's 463 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.400 fun, it's cool. It's cool. Yeah, we'll get we'll get a 464 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.759 video up of it sometime in the in the near future. Did you mess 465 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.920 with the ant modeling stuff we did? Yeah, it's interesting, it's interesting. 466 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.000 It's interesting. It's it's like anybody who knows what a pod is, 467 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.000 it's it's very similar to that. It's just they're modeling different different pedals. 468 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.680 I think all the pedals are modeled after real world analogs, but they're not 469 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:53.720 named right. It's almost like it's almost like Reason where it's like, hey, 470 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.000 check out whatever. Fake looks exactly like the real thing, but it's 471 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:04.640 fake name. Like it's got like the real designs on everything are modeling software 472 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.720 like that sort of stuff is some of my favorite stuff to use. I 473 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.160 just don't ever run guitar stuff. So the kind of cool part about Rocksmith 474 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.799 with the ant modeling stuff is they will they will model the appropriate set up 475 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.279 for each song, so your guitar sounds appropriate in that song, right, 476 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.119 And that's actually that's another kind of cool thing. So you know, when 477 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.960 you're playing Nirvana stuff, you're not. You don't sound like you're playing blues. 478 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.440 You sound like your guitars a right amount of the sourtion on it. 479 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.200 And when you're playing songs that have like a flangeron it or something spacey or 480 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.559 something weird, they have that on there. So it is really neat. 481 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.480 It's it's it's well thought out. Not a game. But is it a 482 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:47.319 game? Yes, totally. Any other games you win at it? No? 483 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.640 Nope, No, it's lost terribly. Well, if there's any games 484 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.599 the one less you want to talk about other software, if you want to 485 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:59.759 talk about Mavis, it's pretty good stuff, Sirie, that's all right. 486 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.880 Did you just that how you learned how to type? It was with mab 487 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:07.359 speaking. He's just broder buns type exclamation point. Yeah. Did you take 488 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.119 typing in school? I absolutely did, dude. Was it on a typewriter? 489 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.240 No? No, I was always on computers. Do you guys typewriter? 490 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.359 Anybody typewriter? No? No, no, no, two eighty six. 491 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.759 Really, by the time it came time for them to try to teach 492 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.759 me how to type quickly, I could already type really quickly. Did you 493 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:23.920 have to take a class or did you just skip it? It was like 494 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.960 part of the computer class I took in high school. Did you develop like 495 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.759 really bad habits by teaching yourself? Were you all like two fingers? I 496 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.480 wasn't two fingers, but I wasn't quite proper, you know. But they 497 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:38.799 weren't interested in that because all the software is like, hey, are you 498 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.920 faster? What are you making mistakes or not? And I wasn't, so 499 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:48.119 I was Our class was on an electric typewriter. Wow, and you like 500 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:53.880 forty yeah, and it was it was typing slash shorthand, yeah, you 501 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.160 know shorthand. No teaching. They threw the oldest most like, couldn't not 502 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.640 fire you because of tenure, but you're too young, retired teacher they could 503 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:08.559 at that class. So she was like ninety nine sleeping in the front of 504 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.160 the classroom. She basically and she said, if you could type the entire 505 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.960 alphabet without looking at the key keys, you get an A. And I 506 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.200 did it on the on the first day, and that was it. So, 507 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.960 No, I don't know shorthand, but I could type the whole alphabet 508 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.319 because but at that point as well, I could. I could type the 509 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.960 entire thing, and so it's just like yeah, abcd FG, it's like, 510 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.920 oh all right, and so but everybody else just had you know, 511 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.519 I'm gonna go out by the lockers. It was a bad class. It 512 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.599 was people were throwing books out the window while she was sleeping. It was 513 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.599 like on like the third floor. It was the computer class I was in 514 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.960 that had, you know, because it was used for typing. They had 515 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.039 like, you know, plastic bookholders that would hold books up at a proper 516 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.079 angle. Yeah, and dude like snap those in half. Stuff like that. 517 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:59.119 Typing classes they must be she I didn't have the savage fucking typing class 518 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:00.559 experience, you guys. Like my first type of class was probably like fifth 519 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.160 grade or something. Oh no, this was this was Yeah. I mean 520 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.319 I had plenty of experience with computers, but it was never in the context 521 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.240 of we're gonna teach you had a type. It was always like, we're 522 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.039 gonna teach you out a program, which I already knew that stuff too, 523 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.720 because they're freaking Apple twos, like how Ard is it? But by the 524 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.359 time I got to high school, though, I think they there were no 525 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.000 more of the typing specific classes or I was right. I had taken like 526 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:28.079 fifth grade, sixth grade, and I think maybe junior high I had a 527 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.640 type class. I'm sure, like not long after I took that class, 528 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.920 they faced out was whatever typing portion of it there was. I had a 529 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.400 ninth grade but it wasn't called typing, it was called keyboarding. Wow. 530 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:43.279 Yeah, no shorthand for you though, Oh, my stenographer's career just went 531 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.279 down the train. I don't know what my shorthand book is anyway. Does 532 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.559 does Alex still type with just his index fingers? I don't know. That 533 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.359 was always the weirdest thing to me, Like he doesn't even look at the 534 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.359 keyboard. He just really two fingers, like going crazy that drummer. And 535 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:02.599 yeah, that seems like some maybe types off time too. My Yeah, 536 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.799 no, my dad is a two finger typist, but can get some good 537 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.920 speed out of it because he's just been doing it for two damn long those 538 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:16.839 bad bad habits school Bella. So if no typing assisting software, we're gonna 539 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.920 have to move on unless there are other games. No, it was it 540 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.960 was it was Rocksmith and the Batman. It's hard to tear myself away from 541 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.440 the from Batman. Yeah, that's very hard. Jeff Gersman, Hello, 542 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.960 what's going on in Skyland? I have saved the Skylands from the evil Chaos? 543 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.559 Okay, and I've brushed back the darkness by building the Core of Light. 544 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.400 Did they spell Chaos? Weird? Kaos? Okay? No? Does 545 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.400 that mean you beat? Did I completed Stylanders? I saved the Skylands. 546 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:51.279 You have to prevent the completion of home Front? So yeah, yes, 547 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.799 so Chaos? Make sure? How are they going to get more money from 548 00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:02.960 you? I'm gonna buy the rest at this point easily. They've already gotten 549 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.880 most of it, so I so he might as well finish it off. 550 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.519 I'm waiting on one more package to arrive, but I bought. I have 551 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.239 everything that is available. It is available now. There's still two more level 552 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:22.320 packs and about twelve more characters. How many do you have? I have 553 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:30.400 twenty twenty four, thirty seven and all, because that's counting all the variants. 554 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.760 The DS version gives that away. Oh the three DS version rather which 555 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.519 I bought, you really have over twenty Skylanders yeah, how many and two? 556 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.360 I was doubt. No, there are not two variants of each. 557 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.440 There are three spiros, there are two Bashes, two chop chops, and 558 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.920 two trigger Happies. They have not released legendary trigger Happy, but he has 559 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.239 mentioned in the three DS version about stealth Elf. I have Stealth Elf. 560 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:04.119 Did stealth Elf? Bought the three dst with stealth Elf? Oh? Yeah, 561 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.800 it's part of why you bought the three for all show you had to 562 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.599 know what the three DS version looked like. And it comes to the portal, 563 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.719 Yeah, wireless infrared wireless portal, and you basically you can store two 564 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.320 dudes on the three DS version at all times, and it writes back to 565 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.679 the toy every time you go back to sinc it up or whatever, and 566 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.960 you have to point it kind of directly at it. It's not great, 567 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.440 it's not It doesn't feel like magic the same way the console versions do. 568 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.639 That's that's a bit of a letdown. It's nice because it's a little bit 569 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.840 smaller, so I can keep that one hooked up to my PC. Uh, 570 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.119 you know, for what I want to play the the Flash mini game. 571 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.000 So no, not to to pull back the curtain here on the on 572 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.199 the magic, but you have to deuce that they're storing in the toy, 573 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.719 in the figure. Definitely storing in the figure. Okay, so there's something 574 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.960 in there that's show that Skylander you have your legendary Chop Chop or whatever. 575 00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.079 Yeah, it's writing back to it every time you drop it on there that 576 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.199 these things tie themselves to a gamer tag. It's not to a gamer tag. 577 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.239 It's it's there is some sort of concept of ownership and you can transfer 578 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:14.639 that ownership to someone else. But yeah, so it'll it'll it'll all synk 579 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.079 up to two accounts and figure out who you are and such. And the 580 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.000 first thing that you found was top chop gear, right, and then when 581 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:22.920 you started playing, it was like it was like one of the first thing 582 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.519 it's not gear what you what you find or soul gems which you can then 583 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:32.039 use that that unlocks the ability for you to purchase the upgrade that the final 584 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.639 upgrade for each one of the characters. Oh what does that? It's you 585 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.719 know, like there are like ten upgrades there's for for each guy. So 586 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.920 it'll be like now you have infinite AMMO for the Golden Mini gun for a 587 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.599 trigger happy that sounds pretty good. Yeah, it's not bad. So run 588 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.440 on chop shop calling it. It's the first thing that you find, right, 589 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.559 So that's the first one. Everybody's the first one. Everyone goes, 590 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.519 oh, oh no, go get a chop chop. Yeah. And then 591 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.159 if you end up Toys or US, that's where they all the legendary three 592 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:07.280 pack that has a rare chop chop in it or rareer theoretically. So for 593 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.519 me, so what do you think? It's real? It's good, you 594 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.480 know what it's It is really well made. It is insidious and dark in 595 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.719 a lot of ways if you think about it in a in a gaming context. 596 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.079 If this, if this didn't have the toy side to it like that, 597 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.440 everyone would be trying to set activation on fire right now because it's all 598 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.239 of it's on the disc and it's twenty dollars for a level and they're gonna 599 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:40.000 put out four levels. This was just twenty bucks unlock keys. People would 600 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:44.000 lose it. Wow, it would be it would be the end of everything. 601 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.880 But because they've come up with this novel, uh you know, toy 602 00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.400 based system and it works really well and it's like it's kind of surprisingly kind 603 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.480 of cool. They get away with it. But what is the early word 604 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.440 on the popularity of the stuff. I don't. I don't really know. 605 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.400 Is it really catch them on? I don't, I don't know. We'll 606 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.800 see her. Jeff loves it. The toys r us that we bought that 607 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.119 we made two of our Skylander runs on. Yeah, there was a distinct 608 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.159 change in stock between the two visits. I know where I read. I 609 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:14.159 forget somebody told me this. I read this some something about toys r us 610 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.639 Chelf looking like raccoons. Yeah. Gab Gabe from Penny Arcade tweeted that they 611 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.440 couldn't find any Skylanders anywhere because they're all had to jump on it earlier. 612 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:28.000 Yeah, so there are two retailer exclusive or there's three retail toys rust as 613 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.840 a couple of exclusive things that only they sell, but then Walmart has a 614 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:37.639 figure and Target has a figure. So Friday night I was a Walmart and 615 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.280 getting getting Drill Sergeant as well as zapp, which is not reason are exclusive, 616 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.000 but it was the one I was missing. Had to buy a Solo. 617 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.000 Yeah, so I had to buy some a handful of. I bought 618 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.639 four Solo figures and everything. At this point, twelve bucks or seven eight, 619 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.679 seven ninety nine something like that, though Amazon prices went up to like 620 00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.880 thirteen last week and they're all sell sold by third party tailor the market. 621 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.079 But you know, I opened everything, so whatever. The portal will read 622 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:07.599 things through the box, so you actually don't have to open anything if you 623 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:15.119 don't want to. But that's that leveled up in box in box chop chops. 624 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.400 Yeah, but that I'm not play with your toys. Yeah, I'm 625 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.679 crazy like that. What was it? What was it you said? Target 626 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.159 and Walmart? Yeah, Targets Whirlwind, which I had to order online and 627 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.199 has not arrived yet. That's the one. That's the last one that I'm 628 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.360 waiting on. And then there are a handful of dudes that just straight up 629 00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.239 haven't released yet, like war Nato, who looks like gammera but tiny, 630 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.079 and what are you gonna do with him? You gonna go through the game 631 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.719 again? With with these guys? I don't know, man, I don't 632 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.920 know what am I gonna do with anything? I don't know. It's really 633 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.920 what question are you really asking? I really don't know. What What has 634 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.320 Skylanders made you question? At this point? Everything, all of it, 635 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.960 it's got me thinking because it's it's pretty well made, you know, it's 636 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.840 it's not a difficult game. But games aren't difficult. So I started thinking 637 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.559 about like the things that you know, there were a couple of spots in 638 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.760 that game where I died a bunch and you know this, your Skylander will 639 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.000 have to rest for the rest of that level. I mean, you gotta 640 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:15.920 swap on another Skyling. Yeah. So if you we're run at of hit 641 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:17.880 points with a guy, he's out, you got to take them out and 642 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.559 put it in. Just swap in another guy. What if you only have 643 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.440 what if you go through all three? You have to restart the chapter, 644 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.239 but you have to go beg your parents go buy you more Skyland. Can 645 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.559 you keep it like pause on that menu while you run out the toys? 646 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.559 R Us started, Okay, yeah, wow, it's almost like buying another 647 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.280 life. Yeah, it really, wow, it absolutely is. Wow, 648 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.719 You've got plenty of now. But I ran out of like my high level 649 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.639 guys in a couple of spots because there was like a tight area where guys 650 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.159 are just making bombs fall out of the sky. They're hitting for like one 651 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.159 hundred damage each time, and it got really crazy, Like I died five 652 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.119 six times and in one little area, can you rip him off before he 653 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.199 dies? Yeah, and there's no benefits of that coming. Oh no, 654 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.880 no, the health stays static for that level everything. And you know, 655 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.679 so there's a couple of spots that were you know, I wouldn't say difficult, 656 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:06.679 but spots where I I died a fair amount of times. And you 657 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.119 know, I think about, like think about Gears of War three, not 658 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.760 a hard game, a couple of spots where you might die aalog, but 659 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.880 in the grand scheme of things like this game on the difficulty scale, not 660 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.960 that different from well especially something like Gears of War is default setting, but 661 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:30.039 those seem to have gotten a bit easier. Yeah. You know, games 662 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.679 are designed to be finished, so you know, so with that in mind, 663 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.000 like this game is is reasonably well made. It's charming, it's it 664 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.519 looks nice enough, and it's it was it was it was a it was 665 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.840 fun to go through. It's got a good hook. Yeah, it's got 666 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.119 a it's got a really really good hook. Yeah, I don't know, 667 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.280 it's it's not perfect, But the more I thought about it, the more 668 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.119 I was like, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it's kind of 669 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:58.719 designed for kids, but it's pretty good. What if pretty good? What 670 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.000 if that hook is activisions next thing? You know, yeah, like in 671 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.440 the line in the long line of like Tony Hawk and Spider Man and Guitar 672 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.079 Hero in terms of like their cash, I mean you could see them. 673 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.039 What if this catches on and this is the thing. I mean, they 674 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:14.760 have the Transformers license, you know, not necessarily like the Spiro version of 675 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:15.920 it, but it's like the general concept. And the funny thing is like 676 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.800 Spiro has such a little too. I mean, if you don't have Spiro 677 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.599 on the portal a Spiro game anymore, it's chop shop game. Yeah, 678 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.599 so it's kind of ridiculous. Like I saw some of the comments from people 679 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:30.920 going like I can't believe what they did to Spiro, which really, like 680 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:35.719 I found alarming because there's like, wait, people give a fuck about Spiro? 681 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.599 What is wrong with you? Yeah? I don't know. It's it's 682 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.760 pretty well made, and I actually I like the design of the dudes, 683 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.079 like they not all of them are are winners, but enough of them look 684 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:52.559 pretty awesome for little little dudes for kids. The actual toysy mean yeah right, 685 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.360 yeah, any game too, Like it's you know, I think there 686 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.320 are worse things, like, you know, I think we talked about this 687 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.639 a bunch, but if they were to start, I don't know how you 688 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:06.519 get the portal injected into natively into the consoles and mean like next generation consoles 689 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.320 whatever that have this not or if I do what we what was it called 690 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.639 the near field communication? Yeah, whatever whatever that is into the console. 691 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.760 Make make the collector's editions relevant again by putting some kind of tag in the 692 00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.760 statue of Marcus that you could put on your console and get your you know, 693 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.519 in game delC that way that comes with don't have to punch in a 694 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.360 code. Yeah, and the and the statue actually does some things that take 695 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.360 up room, right or I think it would be easier for them to print 696 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.639 QR codes on things instead of twenty five character codes and then you just hold 697 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.719 it up in front of your connect I agree. I've been saying that for 698 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.360 at least a year, but you know whatever, that's kind of cool too. 699 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.119 I'll put a statue of Marcus on my three sixty and you know, 700 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:46.800 and then the ability to write back to that stuff, I think is the 701 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.679 thing that only works because it's a kid's game, and there's that theory of 702 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:55.239 You might take this over to a friend's house and play locally where it's like 703 00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.000 Gears of World. Who's doing that? No one's doing that. Yeah, 704 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.679 So that's where, you know, the tech becomes a little needless when you 705 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.360 remove it from the context of it being a kids game. I don't know 706 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:08.840 if you tell me that. And this is again, maybe this is just 707 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:14.760 something that we run into that Microsoft would sell me a bobblehead of my avatar 708 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.079 that you can write all my saved data two and that's my profile and just 709 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.519 bring that around with me instead of the USB key. Yeah, I bet 710 00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.960 we could actually rig that up right now with Will. Yeah, well maybe 711 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.960 not with Will. It's because it's probably pretty intense. But like some sort 712 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.480 of like encrypted USB key that is hooked up to an NFC thing that decrypts 713 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.320 when you hold you know, when you put your NFC device on it, 714 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.039 and then forget this, it would decrypt and in the cloud, I want 715 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:51.599 a giant Well, I mean you would still keep it would be the best 716 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.599 of both worlds, because this would be unlocking the USB key that then logs 717 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:58.000 in. But yeah, your stuff is so yeah, I mean, and 718 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.159 then I'll just replace my Pinkie with that. Yeah, yeah, totally, 719 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:06.280 yeah, Ballpark. How much have you invested into Skyland? Well, they 720 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:07.920 sent the three sixty version of the game, which was seventy right there. 721 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:15.519 So so that's that's if we take that out of the equation, it has 722 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.280 been let's say one hundred and sixty dollars, one hundred and seventy maybe, 723 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.599 and there's another like I said, there's forty dollars where the level packs coming. 724 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.159 Those are the there's going to be like a level than some magic items 725 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.480 and a character each. Do they sell a giant bundle? Because I saw 726 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.159 some unboxings online and some people had some party packs. I couldn't tell if 727 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.800 they were like party packs they were. I couldn't tell if they were like 728 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.199 sent by Activision or if there's just some kind of like no, what was 729 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.400 it? Was? It like it was like a big old thing that opened 730 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.599 up and there were like ten Skylanders in. Yeah, because one of those 731 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.639 things where you become a brand ambassador. I don't know, I couldn't tell. 732 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.599 You got to prove that, like you're like the happening house on the 733 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:06.320 neighbor are pretty funny. A lot of people excited about Skylanders yeah, there 734 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.239 and wrestling. If you want to find out what the crowd is like for 735 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.039 Skylanders, just Skylander Unboxing on on YouTube. If you want to find out 736 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.679 what happened in Rawless. Have you clear yourself an afternoon and have a good 737 00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:22.280 time. Yeah, it's it's a well, it's a really well made thing, 738 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.039 you know. It's the sort of thing that like, you know, 739 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.800 like I said, it's when you pick it apart and look at the business 740 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.320 of it. It's the sort of thing that people should probably be getting outraged 741 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:36.840 about because it's in the gaming context anyway, but removed from that one step, 742 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.840 and then taking into account that on some level, all kids toys are 743 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.159 total rip off. Yeah, it's it's hard to get so incensed about it 744 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.920 when it's been this way for thirty years, right, Like they killed off 745 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:53.800 Optimus Prime so they could make a whole new set of trans Maybe if the 746 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.039 toys were a little more articulated and you could play, that would really go 747 00:46:58.079 --> 00:46:59.760 along. It's like if they were like posable, you know, yeah, 748 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.400 actual little action figures playing with them outside of the game or something. Guys. 749 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.400 I don't want to spoil anything, but you know, they leave it 750 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.960 open for a sequel at the end. So wait, hold on, you're 751 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.880 saying there could be the further adventures of Spiro and Skyland. Home Front two 752 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.159 is going to be to buy you a curio or something to start storing. 753 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:21.440 Uh. Skylander storage has become an issue over the past couple of days. 754 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.679 Uh. And the of the licensed things they sell to hold Skylanders not large 755 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.039 enough. Even the castle cask I think only holds eight dudes. Oh Jesus 756 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:37.519 Christ did no thinks he would have. He would have outgrown that immediately. 757 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.679 I'm glad he held off. Yeah he needs something though, Yeah, I 758 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.679 need a just are you sack or something. I'm still taking that base back 759 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.039 and forth. No, I have left. I left it at home, 760 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:53.199 so I'm not progress. I'm not lugging it taking an important step. Yeah, 761 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.000 I mean the some of the stuff around it is kind of trashy, 762 00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.920 like like the web game thing they did is just like a bunch of bad 763 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:04.360 had flash mini games and built into this weird like you see other character, 764 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:09.159 you see other human players running around as Skylanders in this little isometric flash game 765 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.239 world. Do you interact with that if you haven't purchased any of the other 766 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.519 skews like Is that something I could just go do without? Yeah, you 767 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.400 could. I think you would. It's a portal into world of Skylanders. 768 00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.800 I think you would only get Spiro or something like that if you did that, 769 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.840 or you might have to I'm not sure how that would work, but 770 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.039 get some chump Skylander. But if you have your portal hooked up, you 771 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.880 can just drop another dude on there and swap on the fly in the world, 772 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.119 which I like the dude to let people know around me how deep I 773 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:44.719 am in Skylanders. Swap through all three Spiros in front of a room full 774 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:50.760 of people, let them know who's real right here. Oh you gott Spiro. 775 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:58.159 I got a legendary Spiro. I got Spiro as Spiro rose rosebro dot 776 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:04.639 com. Yes, you've got some Skylanders. I have all of the Skylanders, 777 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.440 all right. I don't want to Yeah, this has to stop. 778 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.760 Skylanders has to study cool. You know, if if if if you if 779 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.440 you had if you have kids that, or if you have boys and games, 780 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.840 or if you just don't give a f uh no. Dan Teesdale from 781 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:30.119 Twisted Pixel was talking about having extended conversations in the Skylanders section of his Local 782 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:36.480 Toys r us with another adult about what the best Skylanders were. So there's 783 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.559 it's uh, it's it's Drobot. It totally he's a dragon in a robot. 784 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.280 Yeah. So the thing with the Skylanders is after you buy the first 785 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:50.119 four upgrades. Uh, there, there's a path decision you have to make. 786 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.280 There are two upgrade paths and you can only choose one, so you 787 00:49:52.320 --> 00:50:00.599 have to buy two of each one. Yeah, no, U and Drobot. 788 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.400 You can either speck in the direction of his afterburner jets, which make 789 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.679 flying faster, but speed is not really an issue. Uh, you can. 790 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:12.480 All you can is gear is actually these gear attacks. So it's these 791 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.000 these gears. They don't shoot straight. They shoot at an angle, which 792 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.519 makes them pretty much worthless, except you're a tight quarters because they bounce off 793 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.559 walls. The laser path though, you get four lasers instead of two. 794 00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.119 How do you not choose that? That's double lasers? You are You are 795 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:30.199 all the way across the level shooting quad lasers, laying waste everything in your 796 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:37.320 path sounds advantageous. Beginner tip you're trigger happy's fine too. He also has 797 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:43.199 a projectile bassed dude, But like you know, chop chop is all melee. 798 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.800 But he can block, so he can actually handle it. A lot 799 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.119 of the other Melee characters can't block, so like Ignitoor and stealth elf U 800 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.920 are at a bit of a disadvantage. Stealth elf can turn invisible though Stealth 801 00:50:55.119 --> 00:51:00.239 Yeah, so with that, it's like it basically creates a clone of like 802 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.119 you turn into eyeballs because you're invisible, and then just but a decoy of 803 00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.559 stealth Health goes running in the direction that you were pointed, So everyone follows 804 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.199 that and then you come up from behind and yoke them. It's a bit 805 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:13.920 deeper than I would have assumed. Yeah, it's it's there's like a there's 806 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:15.679 a kind of a combo system to that game for the melee dudes. It's, 807 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.800 like I said, they did a good job at making that thing. 808 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.320 Like they didn't have to. They probably didn't have to go this far for 809 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.079 a kid's game, but they You really get the sense that they wanted to 810 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.000 make something enduring. But I would argue that they absolutely had too. Yeah, 811 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.679 it's like to make it all like the toys wouldn't sell if the game 812 00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.119 didn't back it up. Yeah, if there wasn't a reason in the game 813 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.760 for you to have these characters or you know, if it wasn't meaningful to 814 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:45.719 the experience then then yeah then and that's that. And that makes really the 815 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.760 whole toy gambit on this way crazier because it's like, yeah, exactly, 816 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.840 like just thinking about all this stuff, like totally for all this stuff to 817 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.480 come together. Yeah, absolutely, where's the cartoon? There's a really no 818 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.960 that is that is crazy? I did, I did. They may not 819 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:05.199 be warming. I didn't want to dig any deeper. So he has to 820 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.760 start buying Skylander d you know, Spiral will be the star of that. 821 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:15.920 And that's and I'm not interested. We have to get the robot then, 822 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.559 because that stuff is what they need to do is make is make, you 823 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.840 know, cartoons. But then it works with the portal so you can put 824 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.079 your dude on there and then it's like here's drowbout wearing a beret. Captain 825 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.320 Power Captain Power exactly. Apparently the Captain Power, the original Captin Power stuff 826 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.000 is coming out in DVD at the end of this year. Wow and play 827 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.840 it so we can so we can get that DVD quality versions. And apparently 828 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:45.000 this is potentially leading up to a relaunch of Captain Power all new cabin power 829 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.000 stuff, all new captins. What a great time to be a kid. 830 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:51.960 That's the worst idea in the world. Let's do it. Let's buy it 831 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.840 all and be a video game tie and Jeff, any other games you want 832 00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:02.280 to talk about? Track Mania is still pretty good your attention. Battlefield three. 833 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.679 Yeah, we did a quick look. Yeah, I got a quick 834 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.840 look at that should be up on the site by now of the three sixty 835 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.440 version because the as of this recording, they sent an origin code that doesn't 836 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.960 unlock until midnight. So we're pretty good. Email. Yeah it was. 837 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:20.000 Here is here is a code for the PC version of the game that unlocks 838 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.679 at midnight. The embargo for all reviews is twelve oh one yeah, one 839 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:30.360 minute, one minute minute review. So the intro, the intro screen is 840 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.239 quite good, the way it's meant to be played, the way it says 841 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.239 all that stuff, it's awesome. In the sixty seconds I got to see 842 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.760 it was fantastic. So so the quick look is of the console version of 843 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.639 the game, which is interesting in its own way. I think there's a 844 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.039 lot of questions about that thing. And we played the three sixty version and 845 00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:52.480 had to install the one point five gig or however big it is texture pack 846 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:59.079 to make it look not like ass Seriously, go look up the YouTube comparison 847 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.519 videos texture version like it doesn't look good and there are spots in the high 848 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:06.719 texture that so is that just is that just like it don't look great either, 849 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.199 But that's that's something that they had to do because they couldn't install on 850 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:16.039 everything. Because something they had to do because of uh, I imagine it's 851 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:20.679 it's sort of similar to the rage situation where you notice the textures kind of 852 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.519 going from low to high. This is just their way to ensure that it's 853 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:29.079 high. Got it is by asking you to install this stuff and and you 854 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.199 know it's nothing. They can't force the install because you know, they can't 855 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:35.639 assume that every Xbox three sixty owner has a hard drive and and you know, 856 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.519 so it's it's that limitation caused someone a whole lot of work that I 857 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:43.000 bet they were really unhappy to have to do. But p S three version 858 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.559 doesn't have this option. It's just installs because they you know those all I 859 00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:52.039 have our drive, right, so not an issue assuming it is installing textures 860 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.280 and stuff like that. I don't know what it installs, but but yeah, 861 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.679 it's uh little grungy on the three sixty parts of it look good, 862 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:06.280 lie real nice and two discs two discs. Disc one is multiplayer and co 863 00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.239 op Disc two is single player. Let you know where the priorities laughing. 864 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:15.719 I thought it was pretty interesting, but yeah, we just got that. 865 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:22.920 Yeah, so no idea. That whole process that that entire everything related to 866 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:30.519 reviews for Battlefield three pretty gross. Bottom five review experiences of my entire probably 867 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:36.159 like the way that that's been handled, the way that the way that some 868 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.360 people got PC version and then some people didn't despite us saying, well, 869 00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:45.400 you could send it. The the reasons we got back from them as to 870 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:51.800 why we were not getting it, we're all pretty flimsy. So so when 871 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.800 the book is written, this is a good just this whole thing is is 872 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:58.840 a full paragraph, and there's there's stuff about it that there's stuff about this 873 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:05.079 week specifically that well, so adding to the fun. I'm not going to 874 00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.920 be here this week. I'm I'm hitting the road tomorrow for an event and 875 00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:13.079 are hitting over today. I guess by the time people hear this. So 876 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:15.800 back when you booked the trip back, it was like, oh, you're 877 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.079 leaving the day of Battlefield comes out, but but well, cool, We'll 878 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.920 clearly had the game for like two weeks at that point. What could go 879 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:30.599 wrong? Yeah, everything, everything. They're also releasing Trobat two. Yeah. 880 00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.519 Yeah. So, like the last week has been this weird limbo for 881 00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:37.599 me because it was like I was expecting to be, you know, getting 882 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.320 Battlefield three done right and doing all that stuff, and then you know, 883 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.840 they kept holding it back and holding it back and holding it back, and 884 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.960 then it was like, well, plenty of time to play fucking Skylanders. 885 00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.760 It does. It does seem weird, and also it does not seem there's 886 00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.280 a lot of stuff flying around out there that adds to the whole mystique to 887 00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:01.079 this or mystique is probably the wrong word for lack of another word to use 888 00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.360 right now, mystique of this whole launch. I mean it's definitely not and 889 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.800 isolated to this building. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. There's there's just 890 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.599 weird stuff going on. And then just to have like the the Internet being 891 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:15.639 the Internet layered on top of that, like with them having kind of half 892 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.119 the story about this stuff, and I'm saying, no, everyone just hates 893 00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.119 Battlefield, but I love Battlefield. I'm getting it anyway, Like, no, 894 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:27.239 you don't understand why why people are saying the things they're saying like some 895 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:30.719 Yeah, you are about as misinformed about the way this is going as you 896 00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:38.760 possibly could be. That's power marketing, but beyond the call. So no, 897 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:47.199 then to talk about I mean that that brief bit with Battlefield three yea, 898 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:51.199 even with it being the three sixty version, like we played some multiplayer. 899 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.239 You'll see it in the quick looks. Yeah, you know, fucking 900 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.199 crash the jet into a control point and a helicopter to the ground, like 901 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.719 did some battlefield ass stuff. That was a whole lot of fun. Uh, 902 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.079 So I'm it got me excited to see the PC version of that game. 903 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:08.679 Heard the heard the campaign is kind of rotten, despite it getting nines 904 00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.519 intense nines and tens from people saying they don't like the campaign. I was 905 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.079 just gonna ignore two thirds of the disc. Maybe it's great, though, 906 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.559 I don't know. I haven't played it all, right, bread Shoemaker dazzled 907 00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.920 me with Uncharted three Go to blow your mind? Yes, Canna, yes, 908 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.639 yeah, ready, huh they made another really good Uncharted game. Hot, 909 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.039 god damn it. Yeah, that makes me so excited. But like 910 00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:37.119 they just fade another really good Uncharted game. I'm totally fine. Is that 911 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.679 enough anymore? Probably fun? Well, I mean they only made one so 912 00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:44.840 far. I think two totally gets passed, right, Yeah, well yeah 913 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:49.639 sure, I'm ready. I'm okay, well totally ready for for for Uncharted 914 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.440 two too. Yeah, like like yeah, I guess listen down to marginalize 915 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.280 the first game. Are there blue dudes? No? No, blue dudes? 916 00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:05.000 Are there blue dude equivalents? Not really, they're already really Oh no, 917 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.519 all right, let's stops stop that line of questioning right now. So 918 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:14.920 anyway, so you're saying, I think I think we probably all agree. 919 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.320 Is there a combat twist at the end of this same not want to finish? 920 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.599 I was gonna ask is it was it the mechanics of the blue dudes 921 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:25.280 or the like weird supernatural I thought the supernatural stuff was was a little out 922 00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:29.239 of place, but you know, like it was this archaeological stuff eventually goes 923 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.159 supernatural. So that's not that's not the end of the world. It was 924 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:35.920 more literally fighting them and not enjoying Like, yeah, you could, you 925 00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:37.159 know, get like their crossbows and take them out with that, but that 926 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.719 that was not a fun combat situation there there is there are a couple of 927 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.440 twists, but they're nothing like that. Well conceptually a little similar, okay, 928 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.199 but you're not. It's not gonna drive you crazy, right, okay 929 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.559 like that, And I was whatever. I was still willing to suffer that 930 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.800 stuff for like the rest of the high points, I was not. And 931 00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.039 as long as there was, that was what broke me on that game. 932 00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:59.840 Wait, you finished it, right, what? Nope, dude, that's 933 00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:04.559 like thirty minutes from the end of the game. Wow, all this stuff 934 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.480 going on. I was just like, it made that game really easy to 935 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:08.960 put down, I guess. And then I got distracted with something else and 936 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:12.920 just never went back. But the little crossbow was was the solution. You're 937 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.679 right, they all died one hit, but it was not a fun solution 938 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.800 to use. So I just died like a bunch of times on one checkpoints, 939 01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:24.639 went yeah, I'll come back to this, and then didn't. It's 940 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:29.960 a lot of set piece globe tribes, and it is the formula that they 941 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.079 hammered out into like just you know, spunt like they ran through it again 942 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:38.920 like it's got you probably go to like five different countries. You read some 943 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:45.800 tombs you know, so it shimmy sideways absolutely awesome. You climb all over 944 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:47.960 a lot of stuff that doesn't initially look like it should be climbed on, 945 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.320 and yet somehow you make it. And does he just barely make it? 946 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:57.119 Dude? Yeah, it's every touch. Oh No, Drake knows how to 947 01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.519 get into scrapes. I don't know if you've noticed that. I feel like 948 01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:01.639 you always know how to grab that ledge is just barely gonna hold them. 949 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:06.280 Are there any goofy old gags like the Marco Polo stuff. Yeah, there's 950 01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:13.440 a reference to that gag specifically outstanding really yeah, and another trophy attached to 951 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.679 that action. Man, But there's some other good humor where like you're doing 952 01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:22.199 stuff within the framework of the mechanics they've got, like the climbing over stuff 953 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.199 and the fact that Drake is always the one that has to go do all 954 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:27.840 the dirty work and everything, and like they find ways to even poke fun 955 01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.840 at that from time to time. It's really smart they poke. That's always 956 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:36.519 the really tough thing to do, is poking fun at the repetitive nature of 957 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.280 tasks in games, because at some point the solution should have been designed something 958 01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.960 else. Yeah, did you ever did you ever feel like that? But 959 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.039 I think poking fund at the repetitiveness is one thing, but if you poke 960 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:52.559 fund at the absurdity of a situation, then it's then it's just your Bruce 961 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:54.760 Willis. Yeah, how does the same ship having the same guy three times? 962 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.159 Stuff like that? Yeah, Okay, these guys just keep on coming 963 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.719 and it's like, I know, come on, I've been here shooting these 964 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:07.159 guys for twenty minutes. Climb in another unclimbable wall. Aye. So it's 965 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.599 pretty sharp dialogue. Yeah, everything about it is pretty much top notch, 966 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.760 you know, just like the last one. But it is again, just 967 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.360 just like the last one in the what's the line I love from the grenade 968 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.679 line? Do you have a plan to go with that? Yeah? Tons 969 01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.639 of stuff like that constantly, constantly. It's great, great, sharp, 970 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.679 witty, artful dialogue. I feel like that game and Batman both like like 971 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.159 any any sort of belly aching about like it's you know, it's the same 972 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:34.599 experience. Like I get that some people don't want more of that. I 973 01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.920 am so totally fine. Those were the two best experiences of two years ago. 974 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.760 Yeah, so I had so much fun with the last games in that 975 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.840 series. That if they want to do, if they want to take me 976 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.400 on that trip again, I'm on board totally. The same time, like, 977 01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:52.480 I can't help but feel like a little I mean, they're they're kind 978 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:57.159 of inherently less exciting this time because one end and on one end, nothing 979 01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:02.039 has really matched those games. Yeah at doing those things. But but then 980 01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.559 like it's I really like Batman, but I hope they don't make a third 981 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:12.039 Batman game. And I'm totally with you on this game as well. Same 982 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.119 thing. They I think if they make another Batman game, they have to 983 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:21.000 do something maybe not as dramatic as they did with Arkham Asylum, though that 984 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:22.480 would be nice, but they have to do something more than they did with 985 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.559 Arkham City. But but I mean, yeah, you're you're right, it 986 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.360 is inherently less exciting the second time around for Batman. And you know, 987 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:30.400 in the case of Uncharted, like, yeah, it's the third one, 988 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.320 but they didn't really Charted two was the one that Yeah, and Charted two 989 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.840 is where they really hammered out the formula. And I mean to marginalize the 990 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.559 first game at the beginning of discussion, but it is a different game. 991 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:44.000 Yeah, Like they actually in the behind the scenes videos. They even acknowledge 992 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:45.599 that. They're like, yeah, we made that first game, and you 993 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:46.920 know, it was it was fine, but there was like this thirty second 994 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:51.360 sequence in it that everybody loved. So we looked at that we were like, 995 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.440 all right, we're making that the entire next game. Yeah. Yeah, 996 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.679 they were totally moments and there were things about Uncharted one that looked great 997 01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.880 and things about that didn't look awesome. But two was a water ship. 998 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.000 Yeah, well, I feel like too, just right, it's like one, 999 01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:06.960 it's him like they were working on it. In two it seemed like 1000 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.159 they were having one. It was it was still like, okay, you 1001 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:15.519 are secondhand Indiana Jones uh with with the wise cracks and all. But I 1002 01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:17.559 feel like by the time you get to two, he's got a little more. 1003 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:23.400 Yeah, there was a confidentity too that was really great. Yeah, 1004 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.800 there's some good range to pretty much all the characters in this, Like, 1005 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:29.840 there's there's some cool backstory, there's some playable flashbacks. I can I want 1006 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:32.480 to give too much away because I mean, playing this game is playing this 1007 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.400 game like if you played it once, like you've played it, you know, 1008 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:40.760 like you can't go back and see everything play it. You cannot play 1009 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:45.280 what has DLC comes. It comes with a hammer, finished the game, 1010 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.400 hit yourself in the head with the hammer until you don't remember playing the game. 1011 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:53.360 But point being like, you know, giving away a lot of this 1012 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.320 game is a disservice to the experience because like going through it yourself and seeing 1013 01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.440 it all. Like, I'm kind of of two minds about the way they 1014 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.519 marketed it because they've shown like probably half of the really impressive set pieces in 1015 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.800 this game have been out there in some form. I feel like I haven't 1016 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:10.519 seen that much just the flooding, but watching the ship, the ship, 1017 01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.920 the burning, the burning chateau. You haven't seen that stuff. Well, 1018 01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:15.239 So that's the thing, is like everything that I've seen has been very much 1019 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.679 out of context. It's been like beat right right, so you see like, 1020 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:20.840 Okay, I know that there's this thing, but I don't know how 1021 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.880 crazy it gets. It's the it's the chateau, the ship, and then 1022 01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.800 the cargo plane sequence. They showed it even multiplayers stuff. That map is 1023 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.360 derived from that. Yeah, but that sequence in the in the campaign is 1024 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:39.199 probably more impressive than anything I remember from Uncharted two. That one thing, 1025 01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:43.519 but it's still the same style of thing, right to the point that you 1026 01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.159 can only see so many of those before. It's like she's saying that they've 1027 01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:50.440 they've they've upped the annie even on their set pieces. But it's it's in 1028 01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.599 that But yeah, like you said, it's in that same style. How 1029 01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:59.159 do you feel about reinvented like as as kind of our premier uncharted player, 1030 01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:04.559 Like, does the notion of another tale of Nathan Drake coming so soon potentially 1031 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:10.280 with reduction in scale due being on a handheld, Like, do you think 1032 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.320 that works? One thing? You have to back up and ask how much 1033 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.159 I want to play Vida Games, which is not very much. Yeah. 1034 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.760 And also, I mean this is an uncharted game coming from a different developer, 1035 01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.920 so who knows how well they can nail like the specific like personality driven 1036 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:25.000 stuff that makes this game so good. Right? Do we know if if 1037 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.400 Nightdogg has had any sort of fingerprints on that thing? I think they do 1038 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.679 have something. I'm sure. Yeah, there's they're signing off on parts of 1039 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:32.920 it. Yeah, and those guys, those guys in Ben have obviously proven 1040 01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.239 themselves. Yeah, haven handheld games super, But I don't know about an 1041 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:40.760 uncharted game, right, But yeah, I mean, like I I could 1042 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.840 use some more time away from these guys, you know, like once every 1043 01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.119 two years seems like a good interval to me. But like I fought the 1044 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.440 same way about about Batman, Like yeah, I just yeah, and that 1045 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:53.320 extent is to all media, like yeah, no interest in any other Batman 1046 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.280 related material. Just give me one terrific Batman game every two years, and 1047 01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.360 I'll happily reconnect with that character for that fifteen hour period to a point and 1048 01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.039 then we can we can forget about it. But like you said, you 1049 01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:08.599 know, like next, next, next time to change stuff up. I 1050 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:12.239 don't. I think they very easily could get away with it again. I 1051 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.800 just would hope that they would realize to not go back to the well at 1052 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:21.719 the time Arkham World, the entire world now complant That sounds like a good 1053 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.880 idea. We don't really need Earth. It's just making a prison all Batman's 1054 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:30.960 Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, yeah dude. They showed shoot 1055 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:33.440 the shoot Mania level editor in France over the weekend. Tell me about it. 1056 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:38.679 The e W E W s C E s WC. You're supposed to 1057 01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:45.320 be the sports editor Esports and Anime Europe. Anyway, I think it's the 1058 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:48.400 place where they debuted track Mania footage track Mandia two footage. Last year, 1059 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:54.400 they showed shoot Mania a little bit of a level editor. Looks okay, 1060 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:58.280 looks kind of like track Mania with no track and a gun and no no 1061 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:01.519 gun because it's just the map editor. So because it says nothing about how 1062 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:05.800 it's played or what it even is. But it is shoot Many a storm. 1063 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.480 Are you just are you playing? That's the name of the game. 1064 01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:13.280 It's because it's shoot Mania because just like track MANI two is track Mania two 1065 01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.119 Canyon, they're gonna do three environments for each game, so they'll be track 1066 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.159 Mania two Stadium, you know, like whatever, whatever. So this is 1067 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:23.319 just storm is the name of this one. And it looked to be I 1068 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.159 don't know if there were trees. It was outdoors, so I don't know 1069 01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:28.079 if it's like a storm the castle thing and they're doing castle parts, or 1070 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.359 or if it's just raining. It wasn't raining. It was not raining, 1071 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.680 but maybe the rain's not in yet. Okay, they could still be working 1072 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.760 on that part. I don't know. So you watched fifteen minutes of shoot 1073 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:42.560 Mania level editors watched about four minutes. It sounds like you don't know anything 1074 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.800 more. I don't speak French. Yeah, so that's a hindreds for sure. 1075 01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:51.000 I don't know. It seems okay, all right, we'll check back 1076 01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:55.720 in with you. What I come back from Montreal? Yes, let you 1077 01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.159 know. How am I not speaking French? Went those track many guys wouldn't 1078 01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:04.159 tell me shit at the airport. They're France anyway, kept going the trek 1079 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:09.239 Mania and they said nothing, you guys speak French. You have to know 1080 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:15.319 about this stuff, right, track Mania, Jump Jumapel, track Maniacs four 1081 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:21.399 twenty. Then you're in. Yeah, they sure you the handshake and keys 1082 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:27.920 to the city saw yours wmpest hand shake. So yeah, I guess I 1083 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:32.439 don't want to tax you Brad too much more on Uncharted three stuff because yeah, 1084 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:35.079 it's just I mean talking ab I want to play it, Yeah, 1085 01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:41.479 you absolutely should. I don't know. It's it's weird to think that all 1086 01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:44.359 of a sudden, they have like Naughty Dog has basically completed the Naughty Dog 1087 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.079 cycle on this game, right they they basically their thing has to come up 1088 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:50.119 with a new ip for a new platform and make three of them and then 1089 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:55.119 they're out right, so is this it? Ye? I think it probably 1090 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.840 is. I bet that bet they don't make an uncharted four, but I 1091 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.000 bet there is an uncharted four. Yeah, the that's too valuable not to 1092 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.880 do something with at this point. Yeah, but and I imagine those dudes 1093 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:08.520 are just so burned out on making uncharted stuff. Probably they could probably just 1094 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.800 like just as much as they could have used a jack palate cleanser, like 1095 01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.680 I'm sure they wanted a They're they're looking forward to a little bit of a 1096 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.039 break from from Nathan Drake. At the same time, though, I mean, 1097 01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:21.640 who knows when the next PlayStation is coming? Who knows how much time 1098 01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:26.680 Naughty Dog has killed? I do bet you don't, don't don't, I'm 1099 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.760 ready, I'm ready. How long? How much your money you got? 1100 01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.800 How many world points? None? Didn't forget it? How much? How 1101 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:36.359 many sky how many I've got one hundred and ten thousand planets? All right? 1102 01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:41.960 February sixteen, twenty fourteen. All right, see's that easy. Didn't 1103 01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.199 have to give you anybody. You heard that? Yeah, I heard that 1104 01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:46.079 too. What these microphones were all connected to these headphones? Fuck? You 1105 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.399 didn't tell me that. Also, it's recording this, so everyone else is 1106 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:51.359 gonna get to know this as well. How this kind of how this has 1107 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:55.479 been set up. Is that just how Sony's going to lauch all consoles now? 1108 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.039 February yep, February twenty second for the Vita. Really, yeah, 1109 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:02.479 I see, I was. It was so close put on Valentine's Day for 1110 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.560 lovers. I'm ready to close the book on a lot of these franchise, 1111 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:11.920 these current gen franchises. Gears. Yeah, Like there's the kind of play 1112 01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:14.960 zone plant on Charted. It makes you wonder, like, I mean, 1113 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.560 these guys are at the top of their game, but they kind of seems 1114 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.039 like they've done all they can do with this hardware, yeah, you know, 1115 01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:23.000 or I mean even if they could squeeze a little more out of it, 1116 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.239 like a little bit more of and all this stuff. Well, they've 1117 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:30.239 been around so long, right, this generation has it's been pretty good, 1118 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:34.039 uh and pretty long in the tooth. So they have made their trilo everybody's 1119 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:39.279 made their trilogies and and then some yeah on this console. So I think 1120 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.079 we are all kind of like like a battlefield. It is really like a 1121 01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:47.960 stark reminder that this generation would normally be over right, you know, just 1122 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:55.600 because the the disparity between the console and the PC versions. Even even Batman's 1123 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:58.960 got like a little little extra kicking the pants on the PC right with some 1124 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:03.680 of the physics and there there there are things that are happening outside of this 1125 01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:08.560 console generation, right we can, but it's like they built they built frost 1126 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.319 Bite too, you know, specifically to be kind of a next generation sort 1127 01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:15.600 of thing on PC, and you know, consoles can't handle it at the 1128 01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:18.039 same level that the PC can, you know. So it's it's one of 1129 01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:21.399 those things where right about now would be the time where you're like, maybe 1130 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:25.479 we had new console next to Christmas. That might be that might be all 1131 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.319 right. It's funny that it seems like it's not like a lack of technical 1132 01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:30.560 ability that's driving this so much as like people are just sick of these ideas, 1133 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.039 or like they want new stuff, but nobody's willing to put new ips 1134 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.239 out there until they've got a new platform to do it all. I think 1135 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.840 that that'll be the thing that ends up driving, you know, the start 1136 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.119 of the next generation sooner rather than later. It will be like this time, 1137 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:46.560 it's it's not going to always be like oh well, sales have trickled 1138 01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:48.800 off to a point where we have to do it. You know, sales 1139 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.319 for this stuff are still going strong and kind of a scary sort of way, 1140 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:56.520 and they're still putting that plenty of great games, but not everything is 1141 01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.359 hitting the way it used to. You know, third parties will probably start 1142 01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:00.560 griping a little bit about like, hey, these guys need to put out 1143 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:06.119 something new because we need the rush of the influx of interest in this sector 1144 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:10.640 that happens when new consoles come out, and then on the backs of that, 1145 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.920 people start buying ads on websites and people start doing all all those stuff 1146 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.560 because there's a whole new generation out there that then and all this money that 1147 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:18.800 has to be spent that is not being spent right now. So you have 1148 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:24.279 a lot of I think it's it's it's a weird health of the industry sort 1149 01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:26.439 of thing. Well, it's a scary thing because we don't have the you 1150 01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:30.840 know, the PC isn't there's a strong platform to kind of kick it off, 1151 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:34.520 So it is entirely yeah, like at the impetus of the console manufacturers 1152 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.880 to start it up, like all right now at the time, now you 1153 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.319 know, we've we've done the research, people will be willing to spend this 1154 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.159 much money on console and like you said, like the economy is not in 1155 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.520 the crapper as much as it is. They have to decide to take that 1156 01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:50.159 risk, Like launching a new console is a considerable risk, right and right 1157 01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:53.640 now they are making money on consoles, and they're making money on games, 1158 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.960 and they're selling a whole shitload of games because they have massive fucking install bases. 1159 01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:59.880 So to to to get to the point where it's like, okay, 1160 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.039 Soft, we really need you to make a new platform, Like, there 1161 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:04.640 has to be a lot of pressure for that to seem like a thing that 1162 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.720 they would want to do at this point, Yeah, I think so, 1163 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:12.000 But I still I think twenty thirteen starts to make a lot of sense. 1164 01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:17.560 Yep, that's my money. Yeah, which one? Both both Sony won't 1165 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.239 won't let it happen? Again? I think I like both, like six 1166 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:26.920 months both, there's both like really like day and date both head launch. 1167 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.760 I mean we in PlayStation three, we're like two weeks afar. Yeah, 1168 01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:35.920 yeah, but I feel little did we know? Those weren't even really yeah, 1169 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:43.000 the same markets, I think, yeah, those felt felt different even 1170 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:45.359 at the time, even at the launch, it was like pick up both 1171 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:50.760 and get served two different masters. Yeah, I guess so that was Yeah. 1172 01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.279 I would love to see what comes next. I kind of just want 1173 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.479 to see what the I feel like we're at such a point in the industry 1174 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:03.840 where we really hit some real big mainstream veins in generation. What do you 1175 01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.560 do next? How big of a leap do you make? I mean that's 1176 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:10.479 always very exciting, right, It's like, does the mainstream care about a 1177 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:15.640 full generational shift if it means a five hundred dollars console? Probably not right, 1178 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:17.800 you know that's not that's so not necessary now. Yeah, Like it's 1179 01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:20.920 been so long and like GPUs and stuff have advanced to such a degree. 1180 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.319 The Will Smith came in, Like Will Smith was really good at coming in 1181 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.000 and slinging a bunch of numbers around, yeah, and making you understand. 1182 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.159 So he was talking about like the advances in GPU technology since the stuff was 1183 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:39.159 like fix when they finalize the hardware. So do you think, like knowing 1184 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.920 that, do you think you do a refresh and keep the branding because these 1185 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.000 things have penetrated so deeply, Like a three sixty has great brand recognition, 1186 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.720 right, So it's like, do you do a refresh on the three sixty 1187 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:53.720 with new hardware in it. That's like, you know, instead of going 1188 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:56.199 Xbox seven twenty whatever, people said, is it like more like a three 1189 01:15:56.239 --> 01:16:00.000 sixty two or like a three sixty AXX three sixty squared or something like that. 1190 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.760 No, that's you're just talking about just a matter of branding. I'm 1191 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:09.039 talking about branding where you're like, this isn't like the next thing that's like, 1192 01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.439 you know, this is like, hey, it's a better three sixty 1193 01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:15.199 Xbox and PlayStation or the brands like that. People know, Yeah, totally, 1194 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:19.800 and and we'll have to do it all over again. But the naming 1195 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.159 on this stuff is just getting even weirder and weirder because Sony can get away 1196 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:29.479 with PlayStation four. Yeah, but Microsoft couldn't go to Xbox three from here, 1197 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.760 could they. Now, he's a really dumb Yeah, even as a 1198 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.560 joke code name sort of thing is really stupid. Yeah, I don't know, 1199 01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:44.239 just call it Xbox, the Xbox drop, everything called the Xbox, 1200 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:45.880 and then you have the different models, you have your Xboxes, you have 1201 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:49.720 Xbox I mean, because at that point you're getting you're getting like almost ten 1202 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:56.560 years away from the original Xbox and that thing didn't sell great, you know, 1203 01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.319 yeah, didn't move necessarily a ton of software kind of kind of Halo 1204 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.159 and Fable were the brands to make it out alive of that generation. And 1205 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:05.640 you have like two camps of people, some people that just called this current 1206 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:11.920 machine the Xbox or the three sixty. Yeah, but you can't call it 1207 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.439 the three sixty two. Yeah, just call it the The Xbox is the 1208 01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.279 name of the division. They're not gonna throw out the Xbox name because they 1209 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:21.439 see that as being valued valuable. I think, I think Vida, I 1210 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.439 think you're right, though, I think there is there that you get a 1211 01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:28.840 four, So I mean that was that was certainly the marketing thing behind the 1212 01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.199 three sixty. Yeah, So I don't know if they're gonna go for that 1213 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.760 again, who knows. It's like it's like the PlayStation three plus a little 1214 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:36.960 more a little extront if they announced before Sony, like they're just gonna have 1215 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:39.920 to come up with someone on their own as opposed to some kind of like 1216 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.640 marketing response to what the competition is doing. Yeah, I don't know. 1217 01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.640 It'll be interesting, and it's very exciting because I just love launches. Are 1218 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.520 are probably one of my favorite things and the industry when it when it's a 1219 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.640 big console kind of like all right, yeah, let's put up our best. 1220 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.560 We're gonna show you things that will never happen that I'll never come out 1221 01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:58.640 on this console, and like here's the dream, right, and it's like, 1222 01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.640 oh, it's here's our same nightmare vision of the future and what games 1223 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:04.520 will look like and how you will play them, and fucking it's gonna be 1224 01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:09.079 get super excited. You'd be like that's crazy, there's no way you'll get 1225 01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:12.840 this. I'm on board usually I agree with you, but like looking at 1226 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:15.439 something like Uncharted three, I mean when these consoles came out, I never 1227 01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:16.880 would have thought that this stuff that we would be playing it would have looked 1228 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:21.159 like that while we were still on these consoles. Yeah, some stuff, 1229 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:25.039 I don't know. I feel like there are some really good developers out there 1230 01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:29.720 now fast their their pipeline down that point that like holy shit, Well that's 1231 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.920 that's also another thing, is like stuff just gets more complicated every generation, 1232 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.640 right, And I don't know, but I think this time it's not going 1233 01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:40.119 to like the development is not going to necessarily get that much more complicated, 1234 01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:45.000 especially for the developers that have been making PC games all along because generation and 1235 01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:47.760 like asset generation, you know, like they're already generating it at ten eighty 1236 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:50.960 right in a lot of cases, you know, so they don't need to 1237 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:56.840 go out and generate more. I hope not hire res assets. Who knows. 1238 01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.960 I just hope now, because it would be real bummer if that happened. 1239 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:02.199 Sadly, there's a new video spack out there. Probably just makes sense 1240 01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.319 sense that, like you know, this next generation will be the one where 1241 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:09.600 all the work everyone learned over the past five years really starts to pay off. 1242 01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.119 That'd be great, I mean, but there will be things like I'm 1243 01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.960 sure there will be new physics models and stuff like that, and you know 1244 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.680 a lot of stuff middleware, I mean, their developers having to get up 1245 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:21.239 to speed on on that stuff kind of all all the time throughout a generation. 1246 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:25.720 Maybe maybe there'll be twenty seven cores you got a program for. I 1247 01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:27.920 don't know. I mean, you can't make too many predictions too far out 1248 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:33.399 because new hardware capabilities enable like radically different I say, paradigms or whatever. 1249 01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:38.399 But I mean something like Assassin's Creed, like the idea of like complicated crowd 1250 01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.039 technology like that, like one or two generations ago, it was just like 1251 01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:44.000 fun thought of because you just couldn't do it. Now you can't state of 1252 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.760 emergency, dude. And then all the silly little things like we learned how 1253 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:49.880 to exploit this shader and it's like, yeah, oh cool, great that 1254 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.399 came like seven games after. You know, I don't know. I hope 1255 01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:58.920 it happens sooner than later, because, like I said, I I will 1256 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:06.159 not stand another Gears kill Zone Resistance for the numbers getting too damn high. 1257 01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:10.000 Well, you'll get all that stuff on the next generation of console. I 1258 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:14.039 hope, maybe not Resistance, but you'll certainly maybe maybe not kill Zone. 1259 01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.039 I don't know, I hope, but it probably kills Zone. But but 1260 01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.920 but you all you do is add another different console to it, and I'm 1261 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:23.000 totally excited. Again. You say it's on the same brand of consoles, 1262 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.359 and I'm like, well, I mean, if if if thirteen happens, 1263 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:30.399 we've got one more holiday without new consoles next year, and we practically know 1264 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:31.560 what all the big games are next year at this point, right, with 1265 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:33.920 some a few exceptions. Yeah, yeah, if you I mean, like 1266 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.880 next hopefully they'll be some more announcements. Yeah, I mean we know a 1267 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:40.039 lot of big, big starts coming out next and it would kind of be 1268 01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.479 the off year anyway for a lot of those brands. Well you know, 1269 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.880 Halot Force coming out and BioShock, BioShock and there's I mean, I mean 1270 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:47.920 for the stuff that came out this year, it would be like the development 1271 01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.840 year anyway, Like you know, they wouldn't hopefully they wouldn't turn out another 1272 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:55.720 one of any of those things they just mentioned in a year. Maybe they 1273 01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:00.079 would, I don't know, anyway, next two or twenty thirteen. Well 1274 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.439 it's weird because I feel like I'm hearing that sentiment coming out of the development 1275 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:06.520 community of like, yeah, like you know, these these folks don't want 1276 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:12.119 to make another one of these games for this hardware, Like they want to 1277 01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.039 have their next version of whatever it is that they're making to be the bigger, 1278 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.960 better on the you know, on new hardware. But I don't feel 1279 01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:21.359 like having it out around launch when it benefits from that that effect, the 1280 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.359 you know, the launch effect of selling to everyone who bought one. But 1281 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.840 I also feel like I haven't heard any of the like rumblings of yeah, 1282 01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.760 you know, Sony's coming around with some stuff and Microsoft's got some stuff like 1283 01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:35.520 you'll be real excited next Yeah. Like I feel like those those two things, 1284 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.479 like I've seen this happen before, and I feel like those two things 1285 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.479 kind of happen in lockstep to a certain degree of like, Okay, we 1286 01:21:42.279 --> 01:21:44.720 you know, we did our last hurrah that we are going to do on 1287 01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:47.359 on the you know, PlayStation two. We made the last grand Theft auto 1288 01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.039 game. We're gonna make there, so we're gonna start planning for the future. 1289 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.359 And right around the same time, you start hearing, hey cell processors, 1290 01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:57.479 isn't that some crazy shit? If anything, if anything, we've heard 1291 01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:00.039 the opposite. It seems like, yeah, heard, you know, and 1292 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.239 I did super well. And then like the kind of pushed back plans staving 1293 01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:05.720 off. Yeah, all that stopped spending all that money. Yeah, for 1294 01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.720 as long as they can. We'll see what happens. It's time play and 1295 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:14.880 chart at three. Okay you should Okay, I totally should this next week. 1296 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:17.479 Yes, it's a week from today. Fantastic. They got it out 1297 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:21.079 there early. If you went to that movie theater event in a major city 1298 01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:25.319 last week, it's probably on the way to your house right now. Oh 1299 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.800 right, that's kind of a cool idea, they're giving out vouchers and stuff. 1300 01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:30.479 Very cool idea. I went to the one. I went to the 1301 01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:31.800 one in San Francisco, so wait, that was like a that was like 1302 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:34.239 a fan thing. That was like, yeah, it was it was. 1303 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:38.560 It was different from Vinny And I went to the one in oh nine for 1304 01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:42.439 two, which was I think free. I think it was just like members 1305 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:44.720 of the placestation community. I don't know if you had to have an invite 1306 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.039 or what, but like they basically they have a big tournament in a movie 1307 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.399 theater and they project the game up on a screen. It's pretty crazy. 1308 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:53.600 And at that one, like at the end of the night, they were 1309 01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:55.479 just still by the way, everybody's here. It gets the game, right 1310 01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:57.520 now, you get a game. It was like a week before it came 1311 01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.520 out. That's very cool. So this time it was a lot were structured 1312 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:01.840 and you have to buy into it. You have to. You can actually, 1313 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:04.359 I think you could buy tickets at a box office in a movie theater. 1314 01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:08.640 I'm but the ticket got you the game. But yeah, it was 1315 01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:10.960 a sixty dollars ticket, right. I think you could buy like a fifteen 1316 01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:13.479 or twenty dollars ticket to just go and get like a gift bagger or whatever. 1317 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:15.000 But if you paid sixty bucks, you can go for this evening thing 1318 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.439 where a couple of Naughty Dog guys come out and you play in the tournament 1319 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:20.399 and blah blah blah, and then they ship you the game like a week 1320 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.920 before it hits retail, So you're not walking out with the game, but 1321 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.720 you're getting in this case, okay, but you're still getting it a week 1322 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:29.880 ahead of time, and you're just paying what you would have paid at retail 1323 01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:31.920 anyway. So it's kind of super fans. Yeah, it's like a really 1324 01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:34.920 really decent fan outreach kind of. Yeah, that seems great. Well, 1325 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:39.279 the Call of Duty event they did a similar thing. Yeah, everyone who 1326 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:43.399 went to Call of Duty Elite got a copy of Hardened Addition, not right 1327 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:45.600 there on the spot, but you know they will be getting one. So 1328 01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.319 that's that is the the highest Tiger version of the game. They're not doing 1329 01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:51.880 one hundred and fifty dollars night Vision Goggle pack this year. Really Yeah, 1330 01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.039 good for them. They just ran out of stuff. I think, what 1331 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.560 are they gonna put in this for the best? Yeah, that car with 1332 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:03.439 that car broke it. The car I really need less giant things in my 1333 01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:08.560 like I've got my Call of Duty, I've got my night vision goggles out 1334 01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:12.600 somewhere. I might have been prominently placed since that game. They're they're in 1335 01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.399 my living room and I keep looking at like, fuck am I gonna do 1336 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.159 with these stupid things, like I don't want these out? You wait, 1337 01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:23.319 but that Harden edition, that Hardened Edition version comes with a year of Call 1338 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.119 Duty Elite, So that means you get all the DLC that's coming out for 1339 01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:29.720 that game over the next year. Also, so as a thing for you 1340 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.840 know, you got for going to this crazy event that they were given a 1341 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:38.359 lot of money to charity. Anyway, Like, good deal they've they've done, 1342 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:42.560 They've done right by those people. I'd say, uh, you guys 1343 01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:45.319 want to talk about blizz Con any Oh, yeah, that happened. We 1344 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:49.760 didn't none of us win. So I'm going to blitz Con. That is 1345 01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:54.840 that you're one man NFL Blitz Convention. It's where I played Blitz and get 1346 01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:58.479 Blitz. Sounds like a pretty good con. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. 1347 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.239 Cosplay is pretty it's but what can we what can we say about the what 1348 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:08.600 happened at blizz Conn while expansion, Yes, the mists of Pandaria, yeah, 1349 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:12.920 which I guess was was revealed through trademark. Yeah, we saw them. 1350 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.800 We saw the name while ago and I'm all you've been waiting for years. 1351 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:21.399 Yeah, I have been on the forefront of pro Pandarian uh relations, 1352 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:30.520 class representation, ambassador within the world of warcraft. Guys, they discovered a 1353 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:35.039 new land mass in the world. Somehow they've been, they appeared somehow, 1354 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.680 they've been far to the east. People have been swimming around in the oceans 1355 01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:44.159 of this world for literally years. You have been to another dimension and to 1356 01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:46.399 an undersea kingdom, and to the top of the world. But we never 1357 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:53.159 noticed those other continents. There are pandas and monks and chi there are their 1358 01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:59.319 gees. Panda has a bow staff, fu shit up with it? And 1359 01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:04.319 the dope racist Yeah, it's profoundly racist. There's a monk. Yeah, 1360 01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:08.520 that's the new new thing. Attack on the monk, I heard. But 1361 01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.960 there's no brew master. I don't think you can play as I'm sure you 1362 01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:16.439 will. I'm sure you will go roll on some come on, he's just 1363 01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:23.319 the the brew master. That's crazy. I don't know. They've gone goofy 1364 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:29.239 a wilted get scams a full of weird joke nothing nothing about this. I 1365 01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:33.520 feel like maybe pre World of Warcraft, suggesting that you would play like that 1366 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:39.600 was an absurdity. But Warcraft since at least Warcraft whatever since Warcraft two has 1367 01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:42.560 had some goofy shit in it. It's just bubbled up for them for the 1368 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.239 surface. Believen the first one, and you clicked on a guy enough times 1369 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:47.800 he said stuff. Yeah, so it's kind of always but there's no more 1370 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:54.520 pretense, no doce they start having goblins riding fucking motorcycles through azroths. Okay, 1371 01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:58.319 so it's just craziness. Now now it's whatever fucking batshit stuff you want 1372 01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.920 to throw in there, your thrond, which is fine, like and with 1373 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:02.840 the game, you know, as mature as it is now, uh, 1374 01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:08.199 it makes sense for them to just like whatever everything at it here you go, 1375 01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:12.600 Yeah, like the game's best minds are working on Titan now, so 1376 01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:16.920 you know that game. I mean, it just feel safe to say World 1377 01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:21.479 of Warcraft is peaked. Yeah it is. They're not like and that it's 1378 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:26.199 not accruing new subscribers. Yeah probably, Yeah, yeah, I think they're 1379 01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.039 I don't mean that is a bad thing. I just mean you know, 1380 01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:32.079 like that game has been around for a long assal I mean nothing last forever. 1381 01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:35.359 Yeah, and it's it's not that's it's gonna keep going for a while 1382 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.039 too exactly, but they still really at least ever quest one expansion, Like 1383 01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.560 I would not be surprised to see World of Warcraft go on to enjoy a 1384 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:45.680 life at least as long as that. Well, the thing is, I 1385 01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.000 mean the like the infrastructure and like all the people to support the game, 1386 01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:51.640 Like, all that stuff is so well established at this point that if they 1387 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.800 continue to drop off on subscriber count, they can probably proportionately scale that stuff 1388 01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:02.000 back and still remain oh sure profitable. On that think they would be rolling 1389 01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:04.960 a lot of those people over onto the game that they're ramping up on. 1390 01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:09.560 I'm talking about just literally like customer sport and data centers and all that stuff, 1391 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:13.159 just just the infrastructure. That stuff probably scales the number of players pretty 1392 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:15.600 pretty directly. So they did. So there's that which is a new playable 1393 01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.640 race which can be either Hoard or Alliance. Right, I'm pretty sure I 1394 01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:24.239 didn't actually read, uh, but but I think they always drop into other 1395 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:28.239 stuff. So I think there's like pet battles now attacking pets or something like 1396 01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.520 that. They put Pokeman into the game, yeah, which is okay. 1397 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:36.199 Yeah, And if I could go buy the figures for these pets and then 1398 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:43.960 drop them on some sort of device, is an Activision Activision products Portal power 1399 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:49.640 Killed Grunt looks a lot like a Marlock just saying yeah. I just I 1400 01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:55.159 wonder if this is the first of their more frequent but smaller boxed expansions. 1401 01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:57.880 I don't know, as they kind of talked about that, did they do 1402 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.119 something to the talent tree too? Is that a knowther stuff's been in flushed 1403 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:05.239 quite a while, Like they said that they're looking to redesign artwork on a 1404 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:10.399 lot of the existing classes because they've you know, kind of gotten more complicated, 1405 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.479 newer stuff and they're gonna go back and refresh the old stuff. But 1406 01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:18.600 no timetable. Uh fucking pandas you know, it's funny. I feel like 1407 01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:23.479 I know they they did it first, but it's really hard not to just 1408 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.720 Kung Fu Panda that that whole thing. Oh yeah, yeah, like the 1409 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:29.399 j black in the back of your head. The stuff they put up is 1410 01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.720 like yeah, like you're right, you're not wrong. Yeah, but how's 1411 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.039 a feel now, Blizzard. Yeah, I was gonna say I didn't want 1412 01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:38.920 to be that mean. Yeah, a little bite in the ass of like 1413 01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:45.920 you guys just ripped off Kung Fu Panda he was first geez, but whatever 1414 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:51.159 World Warcraft expansions, uh StarCraft? Yeah, did World Warcraft expansion not bringing 1415 01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:55.199 me back to the game? I'll say it here and now yeah, same 1416 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:58.880 here. Well, the response seems Thomas went down there too, he's uh 1417 01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:01.960 and he's big World of Warcraft guy. It's just seemed like the general response 1418 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:06.319 is like kind of soon and also kind of maybe not as much as it's 1419 01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:09.800 been an That's what I'm saying. They've been out there saying in the past, 1420 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:13.319 like we're gonna start ramping up on the frequency of these releases because I 1421 01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:15.960 mean, like that the anecdotal evidence I even saw it, like playing because 1422 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:20.079 StarCraft and Wild share of friends List, so like logging on to play StarCraft 1423 01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:23.439 at home after Cataclysm came out. For the first three weeks or a month, 1424 01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:25.920 it was like twenty people on my friends list that were never there, 1425 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:28.880 right, and they're all playing Wild for like a month, and then like 1426 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:30.520 like clockwork, they all just vanished. Do you think they're just like we 1427 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.960 gotta hit it, we gotta hit it hard. It's like it's the content 1428 01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:36.000 in those boxes that's getting people back into the game and playing it unless they 1429 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:41.600 level through the Like those people aren't gonna hang around and run that raiding treadmill 1430 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:44.760 waiting for like content patches. It's ninety now right there, that level cap 1431 01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:46.319 five, So it only went up to five levels in the last one. 1432 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:50.399 The people have become so efficient at running up that that level tree. Oh 1433 01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:54.119 yeah, you always hear like, oh, I'm here's the world first guy 1434 01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.640 to hit the new new level caps like eighteen hours after the game came out. 1435 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:01.039 Interesting so StarCraft. But I feel like they've been doing this for so 1436 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:05.520 long that it's not even just like the crazy most because like first expansion pack, 1437 01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:08.680 when that happened, it's like, oh, well, it's just a 1438 01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:13.319 lunatic that's running up the you know, the level tree so quickly. But 1439 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.600 they've put out so many of these expansions, so people have rerolled so many 1440 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:19.760 times. Even I think, you know, post Cataclysm, they have just 1441 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:23.920 have it wired. Like I don't think you have to be that hardcore a 1442 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.720 WOW player that if you've stuck with it for for any length of time. 1443 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.399 You probably know what that path is. Yeah, you can fly through it. 1444 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.439 And then they've got that. They've got that new annual subscription they announced 1445 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:38.279 that cheaper. They want you to go on contract. Yeah, for a 1446 01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:40.880 while, and you get the oblow three free if you do. It's like 1447 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.479 pass thing whatever, right, Like wow, is that what they're calling? 1448 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:46.119 Yeah? I think, I think so. I don't know all the warcraft 1449 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:51.399 online pass. Yeah, all right, let's so. No one gives a 1450 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:56.880 shit about pandash. I give it, I'll roll a panda. Everybody cares 1451 01:31:56.920 --> 01:32:00.920 about hydrolysks. Tell me, tell me about the shot changes that are being 1452 01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:05.560 made to star Craft. There are some crazy fucking changes being made and losing 1453 01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:11.279 your goddamn mind. Last week, I don't know if it's it's the appropriate 1454 01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:15.039 venue. Mother Ship. They took the mother ship out. Holy shit, 1455 01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:16.560 they took up the carrier. You know what? That sounds big? Mother 1456 01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:26.159 ship sounds like a significant thing. Wellmore that like theckers are still in their 1457 01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:29.000 backers are got a speed upgrade, which is kind of crazy because those things 1458 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:31.399 are beefy as hell, so being slow is kind of the one disadvantage. 1459 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:36.239 Anyway, the mother Ship being taken out is crazy, and that it was 1460 01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:40.079 a super unit. It was like the fabled super unit, which is like 1461 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.359 the thing you can only have the top of the time, but nobody ever 1462 01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:45.520 ever used it for anything ever, Like it was basically a joke. Every 1463 01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:47.520 time it came out, it's like, oh, man, like I rushed 1464 01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:50.439 the mothership or whatever. It's just like, did they replace it or not 1465 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:54.760 specifically, So they took that out. And the Carrier, which is like 1466 01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:57.319 Carrier was in StarCraft one if you remember, it was this big sort of 1467 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:00.520 almost cone shaped ship that has like ton a tiny little flyers swarming, right, 1468 01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:04.720 nobody ever use those things either, gone like they they made some pretty 1469 01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:09.399 well I was gonna say bold cuts, but if nobody is using those units, 1470 01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:12.680 maybe not a huge deal. They took out the Overseer for the Zerg, 1471 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.319 which is a huge deal because people use the Overseer all the fucking time. 1472 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:19.000 It is a very important part of the Zurg. Right process, Yeah, 1473 01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:23.760 so they're replacing that in some interesting ways. There's basically three new units 1474 01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:28.640 on each fashion. The Overseer is the floating gas bag the vision right or 1475 01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:31.199 that. The Overlord is the basic flying farm version. But then you morph 1476 01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:34.119 that thing into the overseer, which is the only way that ZERD can detect 1477 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:38.840 into invisible stuff. Okay, it's the only way you get detection outside of 1478 01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:42.039 a couple of structures. But that's not the thing that spawns the bane lings 1479 01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.640 or those Zerglings are Zirglings morph into banelings. What's the thing that shoots little 1480 01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.119 things under ground? Bood Lord brud Yeah, brude Lords still in there and 1481 01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:51.760 pretty much unchanged. They made a new thing called the swarm Host, which 1482 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:56.079 is basically a burrowing version of the brood Lord. Like it burrows underground so 1483 01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:59.840 you can't see it, but it spits out a bunch of kind of stuff, 1484 01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:02.880 Brudling style, little creepy crawleys. So the three units they added are 1485 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.399 not the in addition to the other changes there, there's all there's nine units. 1486 01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:10.840 There's three perfection okay, and then a ton of the existing units got 1487 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.319 changes, like the helly uh is this? It's really fast little thing that 1488 01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.279 shoots it's a little car thing that shoots a jet of flame, and it's 1489 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:20.640 super it's super weak. It's really good against light units. But at late 1490 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:24.520 game it had not a lot of uses because there's not as many light units 1491 01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.760 around in most cases, but so that thing can transform into robot. Now 1492 01:34:29.479 --> 01:34:32.319 they're like, fuck, it's yeah, we'll just come up with some credit. 1493 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:34.840 Like they can't. Some of the excuses they came up with for the 1494 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:39.720 existence of these abilities and new units and stuff is kind of ridiculous. But 1495 01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:45.079 whatever you think it'll be in the single player of the of the Well and 1496 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.880 it's all zerk, so like it probably fights some of it, but some 1497 01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:51.479 of that stuff probably not. But uh, the craziest sounding thing in this 1498 01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.680 whole in this whole expansion is this thing called the replicant for the pro or 1499 01:34:55.680 --> 01:35:00.319 the pronost, which can turn into any unit that you can see, okay, 1500 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.960 for any faction so spy No, no, it's like you're literally gets 1501 01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:11.680 the ability becoming this unit permanently. Fucking crazy. Wow, whatever you get 1502 01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:15.279 costs associated with turning into unit, No, no, it's the same cost. 1503 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.960 It's just it's expensive and you just have to hope that someone or something 1504 01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:21.840 insane your way and then trying to do it immediately. Well, I mean 1505 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:25.880 like the idea of prodosts, like the prods death ball, which is like 1506 01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:29.119 the kind of jokey name for just like if you get up to two hundred 1507 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:32.079 supply with produces, like you're pretty much gonna murder anything that exists, so 1508 01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:36.000 already having offense like that and having like a line of siege tanks behind it, 1509 01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:40.560 getting a bunch of metaacs to like heal you as you're attacking and stuff. 1510 01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.199 It's just insane. I don't know how that thing is going to survive 1511 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:45.840 into the shipping game like it is. It just seems like there's too much 1512 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:46.880 crazy stuff you could do. What just seems like they have to make the 1513 01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:50.960 other factions just as crazy. Yeah, so they're asking all this stuff like 1514 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:56.800 prior to any sort of beta test process for the Heart of the Swamp there 1515 01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.800 there will be a public beta, and I'm sure that stuff will change before 1516 01:35:59.880 --> 01:36:01.680 that beta even rolls around, and then I'm sure it'll change dramatically during the 1517 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.199 beta. So who knows, Like some of these units you're saying, like 1518 01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:06.960 you you don't think this is even like the state of that things will be 1519 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:10.640 in by the time the public beta happens. Probably not. Probably not. 1520 01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:14.159 Yeah, Like some of these units might not even make it into the beta 1521 01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:15.359 that we actually get to play, So what are what the fuck are they 1522 01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:18.680 actually announcing then with all this stuff, they're just saying, like, here's 1523 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:21.159 the direction we're going. Yeah, like they're announcing, they're very honest and 1524 01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:24.399 open that like here's what we've got right now, like this is the best 1525 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:27.199 stuff we've got working. But we'd love it if this works. But but 1526 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:30.920 like like they're very forthcoming about like, yeah, we can't quite figure out 1527 01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:32.000 how to balance this thing right now, and if we can't balance it just 1528 01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:34.439 coming out of the game. So this is really this is this is about 1529 01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:38.479 like letting the folks that would come to blizz Con know what's up, like 1530 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:42.119 he and the greater StarCraft community, which is like rabid for the stuff, 1531 01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:45.000 right, because these are dramatic changes to this game, So they say, 1532 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:48.079 how this does this replace StarCraft too? This becomes StarCraft two? You mean, 1533 01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:50.520 like at the pro level and stuff. I'm sure they will like, 1534 01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:53.880 well, you know, it's weird, I mean because brood War is still 1535 01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:57.239 like widely played in Korea. It's a different, different case, it's right, 1536 01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.600 you know, that's like some people still play Super Turbo at fighting game 1537 01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:05.840 tournaments, but no one's playing you know, uh second impact, Like do 1538 01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:10.279 you think I launched battle that I don't have Heart of the Swarm installed. 1539 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.800 Uh, I just don't play against those people. You don't play against those 1540 01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:16.640 people yea, or those people people on the new game with BRU or you 1541 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:20.079 could you could opt. Yeah, you'll probably be to choose if you show 1542 01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:21.760 if I have Heart of the Swarm, I can you want to play with 1543 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.079 a friend, you could probably choose one or the other. But I'm sure 1544 01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:29.079 they'll let you choose. But interesting, But I mean, the mind share 1545 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:30.479 is going to move on to all the meaningful play is gonna happen. You 1546 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:35.399 think they'll split the leaderboard or they'll they'll keep the they'll keep the league stuff. 1547 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:39.840 Yeah, I mean this is this is a very different Games of Liberty. 1548 01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:42.880 They'll keep whatever they have now and start Yeah, just like you know, 1549 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:45.279 the same thing. But so there is going to be kind of like 1550 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:49.800 this dead drop point for for the Wings of Liberty. Right. Well, 1551 01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:56.960 we're like, okay, this is this is what StarCraft to multiplayer was up 1552 01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:00.840 to this point. We stopped and now all future developments go into the Heart 1553 01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:03.279 of this Swarm unless it's like security fixes and stuff, because you, I 1554 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.159 mean, you think about the you know, they still put out diapblo two 1555 01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:09.720 patches in some weird way, Like, you know, I'm sure that sort 1556 01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:12.960 of stuff they would still address in all products, but that's sort of balance 1557 01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:17.359 stuff like if someone figures out that there is some crazy exploit, Yeah, 1558 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:21.720 like you think to fix that, yeah, go back in and touch that. 1559 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:25.000 They totally would, But I mean, yeah, the day that the 1560 01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:27.600 heart of this swarm comes out, I'm sure Wings of Liberty is considered like 1561 01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:30.680 an archival version of StarCraft two and it's just kind of on the shelf at 1562 01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:34.159 that point. So so you think any sort of like big meaningful balance changes 1563 01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:40.880 other than to address game they will see, they will cease active like balance 1564 01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.439 and design work on that game. They talk about pricing at all, or 1565 01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:46.720 they've said from the beginning, even like as soon as they announced the you 1566 01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:50.319 know, very controversial like three game model or whatever, they said that you 1567 01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:55.119 can think of the other two as expansions. So forty bucks I can almost 1568 01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:59.680 guarantee it. But man, some of the yeah, and then some of 1569 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:01.279 the change as they're making are so exciting to people who are really into this 1570 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:03.159 game, And like, again, I'm not going to bore you with all 1571 01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:06.359 of it, but shit, is it more than the units is there anything 1572 01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:09.800 else? Yeah, just just so many abilities, so many changes to like 1573 01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:13.880 everything, like practically everything seems like it's gotten a change. So we do 1574 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:15.239 have a story up on the site, yeah about blizz Con, Yes, 1575 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:19.039 thanks to a friend of the side, Brian Lahy was down there, Yeah, 1576 01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:25.319 and is way better and more hardcore about StarCraft than I am, and 1577 01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:30.720 he dug into that impossible. So we've got a lengthy story authored by him 1578 01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:33.600 on the site where you can learn dive deep into the star business. I 1579 01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:35.680 think he didn't. He did the best thing that you could do with something 1580 01:39:35.720 --> 01:39:39.119 like this, which is just to list out a bunch of the crazy stuff 1581 01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:42.079 that happened while he was playing it, just like here's here's the situation I 1582 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:45.159 was in, and here's like the kind of brainstorm I had on in the 1583 01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:47.960 moment with the new tools I had to like find a way out of it 1584 01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:53.079 and stuff like that. They announced, they announced that anything else, like 1585 01:39:53.279 --> 01:39:57.359 like the Titan stuff or talk about any of their other properties, so well, 1586 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.159 like Diablo stuff come out of it. Diablo. They're very little new 1587 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:03.399 Diablo stuff shown there. So this was a StarCraft too pretty much. Well, 1588 01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:06.720 I guess the misspend Yeah, that was the biggest announcement, and then 1589 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:10.560 they were showing the StarCraft stuff, like they had a little bit of new 1590 01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:14.600 PvP stuff for for Diablo. But my understanding is, I mean they're trying 1591 01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:15.880 to get that game done, you know, like they don't have time to 1592 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:19.520 be busting out another playable. It sounds like they were not shy about desires 1593 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:21.880 to put that game out on consoles. Yeah, I guess they talked about 1594 01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:25.800 that, so yeah, like officially, like in panels, like not not 1595 01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.760 saying it's definitely happening, more just saying like, yeah, we think we 1596 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:33.520 can think we can do it, or we've been talking. Well, but 1597 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:36.920 what I what I like the thing that I heard was like the consistent message 1598 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.039 was like yeah, like obviously we want to, but we're not going to 1599 01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.079 announce anything until we are rock solid on how we're going to do that, 1600 01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:45.239 and that's that'll be after the PC versions out, I'm sure. So they're 1601 01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.359 like, let's let's finish that PC version first and then we'll start thinking about 1602 01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:54.439 console stuff. So not taking the focus off that at all. Whatever. 1603 01:40:54.520 --> 01:40:57.159 I'm very happy to play that game on a PC. It totally him. 1604 01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.880 But there's nothing wrong with direct direct control as it's proven effective in games like 1605 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:02.640 that. Yeah, as long as they as long as they get to click 1606 01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:08.840 in the rights, like the click click. Like hopefully everybody remembers at this 1607 01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:12.960 point, because it's been like everybody has reminded each other enough at this point 1608 01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.520 that like the old Diablo games came out on consoles. Yeah, and they 1609 01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:17.319 were fun. Yeah, they were fine, They were kind of cool. 1610 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:19.560 It was one of the things that you weren't really sure if it was gonna 1611 01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:21.680 work or not, and it's like, oh no, like Diablo totally, 1612 01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:26.560 like it doesn't look as good and all that stuff, but you know, 1613 01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:30.560 they'll play on a pis piss one one ye PlayStation I'm sorry, on a 1614 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.720 PlayStation or the PS one if you have one of those. There you go, 1615 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:40.119 there's the name for the new console PSX. Yes, no for the 1616 01:41:40.239 --> 01:41:45.760 Xbox Okay, sorry, I understood. It's the PlayStation. Xbox stands for 1617 01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:54.640 PlayStation x uh probably the second Xbox's h do you know? Do you know 1618 01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:58.760 what the code was? People with people must have gotten some There was something. 1619 01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:01.039 I don't know it. Yeah, what is it? Damn it? 1620 01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:04.319 I remember seeing it was I think it was golden want to say it was 1621 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:10.640 another Merlock or something. You guys you got I heard some fresh merlock buzz 1622 01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:13.960 out on was some kind of Merlock thing. Yeah, it would be awesome 1623 01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:20.079 as a pet. Was the Olympus Merlock. So I never made that was 1624 01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:24.760 not a great Merlock sounds kind of give it another shot. That was by 1625 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:28.920 design, but I guess i'd try. That's better. We're a little more 1626 01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:31.560 galling in there. Blizzard Doda was the other thing, right, there were 1627 01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:34.439 there were actually four products there. Although it's weird. We live in the 1628 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:40.239 craziest times yet, I know, I know there is Dota two from Valve, 1629 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:43.840 So you want to know what's even better? What Brian was down there 1630 01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:46.960 waiting line to play Blizzard Doda. Who does he run into Gabe Newell? 1631 01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:54.359 Oh? Fuck? Waiting in line to play waiting chatted with Gabe a little 1632 01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:59.359 bit going on, See what I mean? Man? There now like two 1633 01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:03.800 premium your products from two premier developers, Valven Blizzard, both making things called 1634 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:11.520 Doda Doda in the name. I'm just like, yes, Blizzard, so 1635 01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.680 it's technically Blizzard defense of the Ancients. Yes, it's yes, Yes, 1636 01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:17.359 you're right, even though there are ancients in this thing. I don't know 1637 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:21.319 some of those characters are pretty ancient. But this looks I mean, what's 1638 01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:26.880 what's crazy? I mean, Blizzard Doda is they're all star Blizzard like it 1639 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:32.199 is characters that you know from Blizzard Games. Content is the unleash hot fury. 1640 01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:34.479 I sure, hope. So I need to look at the fun I 1641 01:43:34.479 --> 01:43:39.279 don't know if they put the full roster out yet. If I had to 1642 01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:44.079 guess, they went Diebolo Warcraft StarCraft, which is no, no, no, 1643 01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:46.960 because if it's Doda, you need to have like a million fucking heroes, 1644 01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:50.279 right They're only doing thirty. So that's the weird thing about this is 1645 01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:54.239 that it's not like a comercial product. It's just an add on for StarCraft. 1646 01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:57.960 Oh so weird. I'm not real sure what they're gonna do with it 1647 01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:00.319 right now. It's like they're gonna distribute it if it's going to be a 1648 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:04.479 well, there's so many variables consider I mean before we have a page for 1649 01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:06.439 it on the side right now, but at some point in the future we 1650 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.880 may have to delete it. I feel like I feel like we've reached the 1651 01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:14.760 point with both of these things where these companies have there's this insane brinksmanship where 1652 01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:16.399 both companies are like, we're gonna fucking develop this thing. We're gonna make 1653 01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:20.119 it, really have no idea if we're how we're gonna sell it. But 1654 01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:24.920 we're gonna have a million dollar tournament over here, and we're gonna announce it 1655 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:28.199 at our big, you know, annual convention here. Well, I mean, 1656 01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:30.279 don't don't don't be mistaken. I don't think in any way Blizzard doota 1657 01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:36.479 as being positioned as like a competitor, like a serious competitors. It is 1658 01:44:36.520 --> 01:44:39.880 crazy. What do we do? I don't know. I mean figure it 1659 01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:43.560 out. Before StarCraft two came out, they were talking about that battlenet market 1660 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.000 place where people would be able to like sell their mods and stuff. So 1661 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:47.600 I mean, who knows, Like there's every possibility this thing could come out 1662 01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:50.640 and like usher that thing in, right, or maybe they just do it 1663 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.560 for the fans and put it out there and that's it. I don't know. 1664 01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:56.760 God should be really weird if they release have for just free, Like 1665 01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.880 this is a free it's pretty it's Dota, it's free. Would you want 1666 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.399 to why would you pay money for anything else? Also want play other game? 1667 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:09.000 This game also free to play? Yeah? Crazy, it's bizarre. 1668 01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:13.399 I don't know. It's hard to process. I don't understand. The trailer 1669 01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:15.039 they put out is super tongue in cheek for that would they would at least 1670 01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:17.840 what did what did he? What did Brian have to say that to Gabe? 1671 01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:21.600 Or they talked about the game a little bit, just other like personal 1672 01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:26.119 stuff. I love the games like I just want to hear some game stories. 1673 01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:28.359 No, I just love the games out there, like on the fucking 1674 01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:30.520 streets like this. I want to see what the thing is like, I 1675 01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.319 know blizzards. I want to talk to me from one of my guys about 1676 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:36.239 it. I don't want to go see it. I can't because I like 1677 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:39.680 it. Fly me down to Anaheim. I'm gonna go stand in line, 1678 01:45:39.680 --> 01:45:45.920 and then I'm gonna play fucking some Doda someone else's Doda figures armed always it's 1679 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:48.560 right. He doesn't fly commercial for that very reason. Can't carry those blades. 1680 01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:53.319 Maybe he just can't get a field underneath your your cargo pants. Like 1681 01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:55.960 we need to stop talking about game Nowell and Knives, because it's gonna just 1682 01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.000 go see it will buy us in the as at some point. That's not 1683 01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.920 a bite, it's more of a staff feels like it sting and he just 1684 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:06.279 can't get enough Doda. He's take ship out of this Doda. I need 1685 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:13.039 fresh Doda, just this legal legends stuff. Whatever. I'm gonna fire you. 1686 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:16.079 They're gonna hire you. You're gonna make a Doda game for Blizzard. 1687 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:21.680 I need somebody else to go over there and just make a Doda game. 1688 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:25.680 Just somebody. Well, the world needs to make you half of this code 1689 01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:30.279 and a gun. Go get a job at Blizzard. Well, I see 1690 01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:33.880 what they can do something different. I'm done with this. That's that is 1691 01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:40.000 a marketplace confusion. M delicious marketplace. But even but like what marketplace? 1692 01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:44.640 Like what I don't know where is it that it's being They're catering to an 1693 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:46.239 audience that's used to not paying for the game. Yeah, they came to 1694 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:49.840 an audience that is probably savvy enough to know the difference and all that stuff. 1695 01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:53.920 Like, neither of these games is going to really get marketed. You 1696 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:59.640 know you're gonna see TV ads for Doda, right, were these two things 1697 01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:03.680 both like it will Valve's gotten way into TV advertising, Dota Billboard on one 1698 01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:09.000 on one. So I feel like and beyond the Blizzard, one of these 1699 01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:12.000 needs to shake out before the other starts doing that, because then it's way 1700 01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:15.520 too easy to capitalize on someone else's marketing efforts. Yeah, but I think 1701 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:18.760 once you shake it out, I don't think that's they're not shake it out. 1702 01:47:18.960 --> 01:47:25.119 Yeah, but Valsta doesn't have a mark or a business model for their 1703 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:30.239 Doughta, not that they're talking anything. They've spent millions of dollars on research 1704 01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:35.119 and developments, sell characters. They'll create a Team Fortress to style store for 1705 01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:44.600 Dota and sell business pieces of it. They'll open up a workshop style thing 1706 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:47.560 and let people submit new stuff for Dota like they do for Team Fortress, 1707 01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:55.359 and then community creators will make millions of fucking dollars millions. I think I 1708 01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:58.640 speak hyperboly when I say they have no idea what they're doing as far as 1709 01:47:58.720 --> 01:48:01.640 like where this is going. Like clearly there's there's like huge fucking business plans. 1710 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:04.680 There is a dark plan behind all of this. You know, may 1711 01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:08.079 or may not be one plan. I was gonna say, imagine there's about 1712 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:10.520 a half dozen plans on each side of like Okay, we could go this 1713 01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:13.199 route that might work, or we could go this route, but none of 1714 01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:15.159 them is like put it in a box, put it on store shelves, 1715 01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:18.640 you know, sell it for fifty bucks. Done? Like none of them? 1716 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.960 You guys want a pre order Dota too? Are none of them are 1717 01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:27.000 a traditional product? You're suggesting they're playing both sides against the middle. Yeah, 1718 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.560 are you saying that, You're saying there's really only one Dota. Are 1719 01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:35.840 you saying, whoever wins, we lose Mobamania look for it storm? Yeah, 1720 01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:43.960 fourth secret world from seventh seal has been broken. There's a map or 1721 01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:46.600 but it only makes one map. So you open it up that you press 1722 01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:50.119 the button. There, You've made your Dota map. Everybody makes the same 1723 01:48:50.239 --> 01:48:54.720 map. You sell it on the marketplace for a nickel, You become a 1724 01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:59.199 millionaire. It's a weird I love it. I love this weirdness. Let's 1725 01:48:59.199 --> 01:49:01.319 talk about some other weird in the in the news, what say you? 1726 01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:06.840 I've got a little Portal news here. They announced what the second UH free 1727 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:12.319 pack for Portal two will be, you know, earlier this month, Yeah, 1728 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:15.920 earlier this month they put out the peer review uh DLC, which was 1729 01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:20.399 a co op focus stuff. Uh. They have now announced an in game 1730 01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:24.399 map editor that's going to be coming out next year for Portal two, and 1731 01:49:24.479 --> 01:49:27.439 there's some screenshots. We have a news story to check it out that has 1732 01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:31.720 some screenshots of of ostensibly what this level editor looks like. And it's crazy 1733 01:49:32.720 --> 01:49:36.279 because it's not it doesn't seem like they are playing this from the first person 1734 01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:42.439 perspective, but they have created these these kind of like little isometric boxes in 1735 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.760 which you are, you know, gonna alter the geometry kind of in a 1736 01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.720 block out a block, because you know, everything in Portal works in kind 1737 01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:53.359 of grid based logic. Yeah, it looked like what I saw, look 1738 01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:58.279 like the those videos they put out of the demonstrate the weapons and stuff like 1739 01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:01.640 that, like the first, like the first Portal, like all of the 1740 01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.880 Aperture theme like instructional video stuff. Actually, the stuff is even in Portal 1741 01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:10.479 too, that you see. They put some trailers out like that too. 1742 01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.399 Yeah, they productress, but even inside the game, like there's there's some 1743 01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:17.720 Aperture Science branded stuff that looks like that, and it looks awesome and crazy 1744 01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:23.279 and potentially like a really easy way to cook up your own damn Portal levels 1745 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:27.039 and then upload them and chare them. But they have an evil plan behind 1746 01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:31.920 this too, that's right. They always do make StarCraft maps Portal to level 1747 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:40.239 ter hold, not for Portal Doda. I would I'd play Portal Dota what 1748 01:50:40.399 --> 01:50:45.479 have you. Oh, let's see here. Movie rights for Assassin's Creed getting 1749 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:50.520 bought. I can't say that's too surprising. I thought I would have assumed 1750 01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:55.600 it. It happened, all right, Really, I guess Sony bought it 1751 01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:00.000 according to Variety, Yeah, Sony Pictures Exclusive. Yeah, they've also got 1752 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:04.239 uncharted stuff in the world. So PlayStation four font will look like the Assassins 1753 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:08.960 Creed movie font whatever that happens to be. Yeah, which will not be 1754 01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:12.720 the Assassin's Creed game font. No. Oh, man, I came so 1755 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.800 close to buying a new PlayStation three by the end of the uncharted review process. 1756 01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:24.199 Launch old PS three sounds like fucking shit. Yeah, oh god. 1757 01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:29.000 I got to the point where I plugged headphones into my receiver because that was 1758 01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:32.399 the best way to hear the game only and not the system. I tried 1759 01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:35.079 to find a fan replacement online. I couldn't find anybody that sells them. 1760 01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:39.439 Like, I'll happily open that thing up and swamp it out if I can 1761 01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:43.079 find one. Yeah, we're starting to get just kind of circling back to 1762 01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:44.920 what we talked about before, and I have to derail the news. But 1763 01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:50.399 it's getting a little too late to buy. It's a little scary. I 1764 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:54.359 mean, a, this thing works perfectly fine, so it's hard to justify 1765 01:51:54.399 --> 01:51:58.039 buying a new one first place. And be how many more I don't know 1766 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:00.399 how many more PS three exclusives are you they're gonna be that I'm gonna want 1767 01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:04.159 to play before it's all like, I just feel like mine could last me 1768 01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:06.119 until the end of this. Yeah, that's kind of how I was feeling. 1769 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:11.159 Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't want to buy a new 1770 01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:14.800 PlayStation three. As nice as those slims look and everything else, I don't 1771 01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:18.920 want to buy it as noisy as well. Yeah, since since since I 1772 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.239 have the fresher one, that's not an issue, but I want to leave 1773 01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:25.880 it. Yeah, if I if I gotten a refresh was a year ago 1774 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:29.800 on the p S three is at least Yeah, I'm okay. If I've 1775 01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:32.039 gotten that, I feel like I would feel a lot better about making it 1776 01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:34.960 through. But now mine is super loud too, And yeah, I've come 1777 01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:40.199 damn clothes to being like, man, I could use another Blue Ray Player, 1778 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:43.279 and I got that slim and I got my launched PS three still both 1779 01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:46.640 hooked up to cvs. I mean the launch PS three I feel like, 1780 01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:49.319 still works fine. It's just that yeah you can get so yeah, so 1781 01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:56.520 damn lad mine works fawlessly. As Jeff had mentioned earlier, February twenty second, 1782 01:52:57.159 --> 01:53:02.000 twenty twelve is a US launch date for the PlayStation Vita. It's the 1783 01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:06.439 everywhere except for Japan. Yeah yeah, that's December seventeenth. Yeah. Yeah, 1784 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:12.880 it's come a lot quicker about three months earlier. In two months earlier 1785 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:18.680 in Japan. But Old Republic to pick a poison, it's either or pass 1786 01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:27.920 pass Old Republic would be cheaper initially. Whatever, I'll get a Vita. 1787 01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:35.239 The Japanese one regions stuff has gotten a little weird. I think the region 1788 01:53:35.279 --> 01:53:40.279 stuff is fine. I think it is a region free, but the store 1789 01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:43.079 stuff wouldn't be right. Well, that's that's weird. Like every when we 1790 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:45.159 got our first Japanese PS three's and it was like, okay, no one 1791 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:50.079 knows what everything what happens if you put this disc in it, does it 1792 01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:54.239 work or not? Because that's when they kind of started, that's when sonytly 1793 01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:56.319 started getting loose about like all right, we're not gonna reason code any of 1794 01:53:56.359 --> 01:53:59.720 our games like fuck it. But there's still a lot of region throttling on 1795 01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:04.880 when end up being the important part of the services part. So I would 1796 01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:08.600 stuck to add being I think if if we can find someone to sell us 1797 01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:12.439 a vida that is not grossly overpriced and is a round launched so that we 1798 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:15.720 could get one in here for coverage purposes, I would I would entertain that. 1799 01:54:15.720 --> 01:54:25.079 But what are their games on? That's the car cards cards? Uh? 1800 01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:27.640 This this is actually a last week's story, but we kind of missed 1801 01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:33.840 it as the announcement that Nino Kuoni, a Japanese RPG from Level five the 1802 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:42.039 studio in Studio Zibli the you know your your professor Layton people and your U 1803 01:54:42.439 --> 01:54:47.199 my you know Toro Miyazaki. Uh, those two camps coming together, and 1804 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:53.560 some screenshots and stuff came out for this and it looks crazy good as you 1805 01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:56.399 would kind of expect, I guess from level five stuff like they make really 1806 01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:59.159 sharp looking things. And then Namco is doing that here? Is that what 1807 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:03.319 the yes, that's the announcement is that they're putting that out in the US. 1808 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:08.439 Neo Cooney Wrath of the White Witch, Uh coming out next year here 1809 01:55:08.720 --> 01:55:13.880 thanks to them. I think they're just adding a subtitle to it, so 1810 01:55:13.960 --> 01:55:15.720 I think they're still calling it, you know, Cooney Well, but then 1811 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:21.039 also throwing a little extra fun on there. Uh. And Layton Brothers Mystery 1812 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:28.119 Room is coming to iOS holding for super Layton Brothers. Wait, Layton has 1813 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:30.840 a brother, Yeah there does now, motherfucker evil crabs. You gotta hit 1814 01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.600 him twice, and then the flies they've jumped, and then you gotta hit 1815 01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:40.279 them when they're on the ground and you're asshole, your asshole partner just hits 1816 01:55:40.319 --> 01:55:43.000 the power block four times in a row. It's like, thanks for nothing. 1817 01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:46.359 Everyone's just alive again, and then I'm dead. Thanks believe that though, 1818 01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:54.000 right? Yeah? Horse and Herschel Yeah Herschel Yeah. What else? 1819 01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:56.840 I was just saying it out loud for like the pairing, like this Horace 1820 01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:00.920 work? And also is it obscure enough? Hector not obscure enough? Horace 1821 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:03.840 is definitely about that matches. Uh, how about? How about? How 1822 01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:15.119 about Ratio? Herbert? I still think I'm Herbert Latona. If you guys 1823 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:17.199 are looking to buy a boat, you can come down and see me on 1824 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:20.119 a boat. Sail here, fair grounds working down here all weekends. So 1825 01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:25.119 you need top hats. I got top hat great deals on boatsticks. I 1826 01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:27.239 got match sticks. I supposed to come with no match sticks. I can 1827 01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:29.920 guarantee no match sticks. But if you saw this, massic because I get 1828 01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:34.279 a ten percent off your boat professor, what's wrong with your brother? He's 1829 01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:42.119 drowning because he's not wearing one of my love jackets. Take on the professor 1830 01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:47.279 of boats, say lasagno, his yeah, his brother clearly not a professor. 1831 01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:51.039 Make no mistake about that. I'm gonna move my car, Okay, 1832 01:56:51.039 --> 01:56:54.600 won't we just take a break because I can move my cartoon grace, all 1833 01:56:54.640 --> 01:56:56.880 right, we'll be back in a second, boy, drop on it. 1834 01:57:28.079 --> 01:57:30.600 All right, guys, and we're back. And that's that's news. So 1835 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:34.119 let's move on and talk about some new releases for this week. As previously 1836 01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:39.920 mentioned, Battlefield three available this week for Xbox three sixty, PlayStation three, 1837 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:43.840 and I think the personal computer, yes, and most personal computers. I'm 1838 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:47.039 not sure about that. Dragon Ball Z Ultimate ten Kaiichi for Xbox three sixty 1839 01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:51.079 and PlayStation three. I can't believe this is the first Ultimate I don't know 1840 01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:56.760 that that's true. Ultimate Battle twenty two yeah for the original PlayStation Ultimate ten 1841 01:57:56.840 --> 01:58:00.520 Kaichi. Apparently this is the Ultimate ten Kaichi. We're not to get any 1842 01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:04.039 better like last year was pen Ultimate Tenchi. So I bet they have to 1843 01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:08.319 still be telling the same sagas, right, I bet no, this one's 1844 01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:14.560 all new. I bet you they just came up with it. Heroid Storm 1845 01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:18.039 to the opposite guys. I have this great new idea for Goku and all 1846 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:23.000 his pals sell games too. What if they fight this guy called Freezer. 1847 01:58:24.119 --> 01:58:31.119 We did that robo Freezer Ultimate Fresca and we did that also brought back Freeza 1848 01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:35.479 and well then fuck, let's just make that again. Fine, thank you, 1849 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:39.079 mister, thanks for coming in. Mister Tiama, shut up, I'll 1850 01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:45.119 kill you. Stronghold three for the PC Drew. I handed off code to 1851 01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:47.880 him last week, so hopefully he has already knee deep in. I know 1852 01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:54.119 he was muttering earlier about putting together that Trey buscha that came with our copies 1853 01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:58.199 of Stronghold three, and then he said, I gotta deep, I gotta 1854 01:58:58.199 --> 01:59:01.800 go deeper into Stronghold. It's getting all weird. Oh so he's he's in 1855 01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:04.680 it, but he's not in deep enough yet. He's not ready. He's 1856 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:08.439 get deeper. Okay, when you get the portal and then you put the 1857 01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:11.800 trevorche on the portal and you got to spawn that unit. Yeah, okay, 1858 01:59:11.920 --> 01:59:16.479 we'll check him with him later. Centipede Infestation for the Nintendo we Atari. 1859 01:59:16.760 --> 01:59:23.119 Apparently he's still doing great things with its classic titles. Great like a 1860 01:59:23.159 --> 01:59:28.079 new Centipede game. Just Get Just Dance Kids two for the Nintendo Wii. 1861 01:59:29.119 --> 01:59:33.199 It's the second Just Dance Kids. It's like a hundred Just Dance games at 1862 01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:39.960 this point. Motion Explosion for Xbox three sixty from Jessco. It's an explosive 1863 01:59:40.159 --> 01:59:43.760 explosion of motions. How many wrestling theme mini games are in Motion Explosion? 1864 01:59:45.079 --> 01:59:48.640 Was it five oh five to Hulk? No? That's also it's also Mantjesco 1865 01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:55.399 fantastic. It's one way to describe it. That's great stuff. Captain America's 1866 01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:59.720 Super Soldier for Nintendo three DS. It's radically different from the other Captain America 1867 01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:06.439 games they've already put out. I'm just playing Heavy Fire Afghanistan the Chosen Few 1868 02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:14.560 for PC WE and PlayStation three. I can't make this stuff up, folks. 1869 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:17.159 Oh, I'm sorry I missed this. Just Dan's Kids Too, also 1870 02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:23.920 available for Xbox three sixty and PlayStation three. The Cursed Crusade from Atlas for 1871 02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:29.000 Xbox three sixty and PlayStation three, Back to the Future, those tell tell 1872 02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.479 adventure games. They gotten bundled up this week for PS three, and we 1873 02:00:32.199 --> 02:00:36.279 can get those on a disc for twenty bucks, and that's the whole of 1874 02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:41.600 the Backs Future. That's the season. Yeah, I mean, given a 1875 02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:45.319 little bit of time and for fucking twenty bucks, I feel like that's kind 1876 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:48.239 of yeah. I didn't play any of those, kind of kind of can't 1877 02:00:48.279 --> 02:00:55.039 lose if you are down for some classic adventure game style adventure games, like 1878 02:00:55.119 --> 02:00:57.359 I tell myself that I am. But I think we all know the answer 1879 02:00:57.399 --> 02:01:05.000 to that question. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. Grease Dance Gross featuring hot 1880 02:01:05.079 --> 02:01:09.840 hits from the popular musical Grease. Damn Girl, I'm gonna take you have 1881 02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:15.319 back for a Grease Dance Brad Humor. Did you know that Dead Rising two 1882 02:01:15.319 --> 02:01:17.920 Off the Record was coming out for the PC this week? Dead Rising two 1883 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:20.960 Off the Record? Yeah, I think the PC. Oh, okay, 1884 02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:25.079 if you need that game on a disc so you can get it this week, 1885 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:28.359 good have it on a disc, a different kind of disc. It 1886 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:33.079 came out on Steam date Xbox both date, both of them, both of 1887 02:01:33.119 --> 02:01:38.199 them. Yeah, fantastic, the same thing. It turns out, then, 1888 02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:40.399 why do we say it twice like that? That's silly, A never 1889 02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:44.720 date and date. I never actually understood that. Puss in Boots for Xbox 1890 02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:47.760 three, sixty, PlayStation three and Nintendo DS. Hell, yeah, you're 1891 02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:49.920 like, I'm tired of these Shrek movies. They're like, well, how 1892 02:01:49.960 --> 02:01:53.600 about one? How about a Shrek movie without any Shrek in it, or 1893 02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.119 maybe like probably a little bit of Shrek in it? Because it can't put 1894 02:01:56.159 --> 02:02:00.439 out and Antonio Banderis can't carry a movie anymore. God damn it approval. 1895 02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:05.720 I'm down for a grease dance. You know now infinitely more about the Puss 1896 02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:11.680 in Boots movie than anyone I would care to associate myself. I don't even 1897 02:02:11.760 --> 02:02:15.479 know that. I just your wild speculation. Yeah you know that because you're 1898 02:02:15.800 --> 02:02:19.840 your girlfriend knows that she doesn't seriously have no idea Disney Universe for Xbox pree 1899 02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:24.680 sixty, Nintendo we in PlayStation three. I don't know what that is, 1900 02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:26.840 but I gotta copy of it on my desk, so I'll look at that, 1901 02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:31.079 so we'll find out. Yes, House of the Dead Overkill extended cuts 1902 02:02:31.159 --> 02:02:34.439 for the PlayStation three. House of the Dead Overkill came out for the wee 1903 02:02:34.560 --> 02:02:38.560 a couple of years ago. They're doing a beefier version of it. I 1904 02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:41.479 guess for the PlayStation three, maybe any more cursing to it, because I 1905 02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:43.600 don't think it had enough before. Was that what it was? Yeah, 1906 02:02:43.760 --> 02:02:45.800 just trying to remember what the thing was with that game, other than be 1907 02:02:45.960 --> 02:02:49.239 not liking it. It was super cursy. I mean, yeah, whatever. 1908 02:02:49.279 --> 02:02:55.920 It was a on Rail's shooter. It was a House of the Dead 1909 02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:00.960 game that they had some weird grindhouse trappings for a Dance Central two out this 1910 02:03:00.039 --> 02:03:03.600 week for Xbox three sixty Connect of course, review that up on the site. 1911 02:03:03.680 --> 02:03:06.800 Indeed, that's Giant bomb dot com. That's the site. Yeah, 1912 02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:11.479 fantastic, that's the website. Put type that into an internet browser on the 1913 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:16.640 web. Go down to the library, find it, click on the type 1914 02:03:16.640 --> 02:03:19.239 it into the search field as you type Dance Central two and up there, 1915 02:03:19.640 --> 02:03:26.439 Ye might be do it. We'll wait, click it, Yeah, click 1916 02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:30.439 it again. Stop, that's the wrong one. That happen you Connect Sports 1917 02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:36.399 Season two from Big Park and Rare. Imagine Big Park probably doing the heavy 1918 02:03:36.439 --> 02:03:42.640 lifting this time. Because they kind of did last time. No idea how 1919 02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:46.399 to split that stuff, No idea, what rare. Although the rumors about 1920 02:03:46.439 --> 02:03:49.760 the next Xbox that were swirling last week, they were one of the three 1921 02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:56.279 studios named as being hard at work on a project. Yeah you need higher 1922 02:03:56.319 --> 02:04:02.279 as avatars, No shut up. Also, Centipede Infestation also available for the 1923 02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:05.399 three DS this week, so we in three DS for that. Barn Burner. 1924 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:13.760 Human Centipede Infestation might sell more copies at this point, Yeah, they 1925 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:15.800 could. Just they should just cop the license and slop it on this game 1926 02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:21.840 for the X version. That'll be enough. Just touch a mushroom that's been 1927 02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:25.800 touched by a scorpion, it's poisoned, and the centipedes go down to the 1928 02:04:25.840 --> 02:04:30.199 bottom of the screen real fast. Shit in your mouth. So what do 1929 02:04:30.199 --> 02:04:33.159 you think they do at the bottom of the screen. That's why. That's 1930 02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:38.319 why you lose when they get there. It just makes more heads appear. 1931 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:43.640 Uh. That's what I've got for retail released. I have no idea what's 1932 02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:50.159 going on for Digital Day to Daytona War the World this week? This week 1933 02:04:50.479 --> 02:04:56.880 or is that next week? I believe that this week War of the World 1934 02:04:58.760 --> 02:05:01.279 that's coming out this week. All right, then for what that look ex 1935 02:05:01.399 --> 02:05:04.840 up on the site with Mike Mica Other Oceans that I recommend you watched. 1936 02:05:04.840 --> 02:05:12.159 We had a fun time. Yeah, Pixel junk Shooter the name of the 1937 02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:15.720 website us. That game looks cool. We have It's a whole site. 1938 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:17.960 You could go look at it. We're there too. When did we do 1939 02:05:18.079 --> 02:05:21.279 this? We do this thing where were talking to microphones, but sometimes we 1940 02:05:21.359 --> 02:05:26.399 talk to microphones while we play video games. You should really should really try 1941 02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:30.520 it out. It's pretty hot, Grease Dan, check it out. It's 1942 02:05:30.520 --> 02:05:33.439 a lot of fun, much like these emails that we read every week here 1943 02:05:33.520 --> 02:05:39.159 on the show. BombCast at John bomb dot com is the email address if 1944 02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:43.840 you would care to send in your emails. First one coming in from Scott 1945 02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:50.520 meter Hot from Richmond, Virginia, Vay. Hey, Bombcasts. Since it 1946 02:05:50.600 --> 02:05:54.520 has been the topic of discussion before, I have another question about what a 1947 02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:58.840 certain development studio did for a game. I recently finished Batman Arkham Cidy and 1948 02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:01.680 noticed that nether Realms was part of the credits. Any idea what they specifically 1949 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:04.119 did for that game? And on top of that, why aren't they properly 1950 02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:09.479 mentioned in the opening of Batman Arkham City. I think they did some engine 1951 02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:12.880 stuff, like Mike Boone is credited on that game. Wait, yeah, 1952 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:20.000 I'm sorry, also works well yeah, yeah, there's a handful of dudes 1953 02:06:20.039 --> 02:06:21.800 from another realm that are credited in the end of that game. And I 1954 02:06:21.840 --> 02:06:27.680 think it is all engine credits and stuff. So those guys also working Unreal 1955 02:06:27.800 --> 02:06:30.600 so serious unreal experience. Yeah, so I imagine it's just that sort of 1956 02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:34.800 stuff, no idea. I mean you see just more and more of that 1957 02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:40.479 of multiple studios being listed and they're just there for punch up work or consulting 1958 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:43.079 work week and stuff. We had to bring these guys in for six weeks 1959 02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:50.199 to make this work, or you know today the end credits of Skylanders go 1960 02:06:50.720 --> 02:06:53.800 for a while. Oh yeah, there are a lot of people to think 1961 02:06:53.880 --> 02:06:57.000 there's a lot of Yeah, there's a lot of different a lot of Skylander 1962 02:06:57.079 --> 02:07:00.800 babies. Yes, there were some some pickle Yes, my controller turned off 1963 02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:05.199 during the credits have uncharted. Yeah, yeah, that's always a sign of 1964 02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:13.239 a good game. Like the credits is directly equitable to reviews. So mente 1965 02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:19.319 Turtles and Time for PS three the highest most Ubisoft games. Really, Yeah, 1966 02:07:19.359 --> 02:07:21.439 they knock him out of the Park when it comes to credit length, 1967 02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:26.159 they know how to make a lot of dudes work on one game. Next 1968 02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:28.239 year. Comes in from Bow. He says, Hey, my name is 1969 02:07:28.279 --> 02:07:30.199 Bow, and this is my question for the podcast. With the World of 1970 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:33.880 Warcraft subscriber numbers now on the decline, it's got me thinking if there will 1971 02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:40.000 ever be another MMO that can break the ten million plus subscriber back but subscriber 1972 02:07:40.199 --> 02:07:45.000 mark. Looking back, WOW success seems may seemed to may have been helped 1973 02:07:45.039 --> 02:07:47.439 by A by releasing it the right place at the right time. With the 1974 02:07:47.479 --> 02:07:51.239 current satuation of the MLO landscape, I would be surprised if even Blizzards next 1975 02:07:51.359 --> 02:07:56.920 MMO could reach these numbers again, as it's even the same kind of game. 1976 02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:01.239 So I guess that's what game is. It's I mean, it's it's 1977 02:08:01.319 --> 02:08:05.760 it's interesting because you know that you know that ten thousand subscriber number, whatever 1978 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:09.960 the subscriber number was, was was something to be brandished for for WOW and 1979 02:08:09.039 --> 02:08:13.399 for any MMO because that's how many monthly dollars you were getting in as you 1980 02:08:13.479 --> 02:08:18.600 knew I have ten million subscribers. For most of those people, I'm getting 1981 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:24.319 ten to fifteen bucks a month, So you know, you can extrapolate out 1982 02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:28.640 based on you know, maintenance costs and you know whatever your initial investment and 1983 02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:31.960 blah blah blah. You know, I'm making some some fucking money off of 1984 02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:37.439 that change. But the MMO landscape has changed month exactly. It's walking around 1985 02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:41.439 money. Uh, the landscape has changed. You know, you can't. 1986 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:46.439 We're rapidly seeing you can't just make a monthly subscription based MMO and and ride 1987 02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:50.720 off of that anymore. Like people just don't. I don't care like they 1988 02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:54.560 care, They care less and less for Wow. Every It seems like like 1989 02:08:54.640 --> 02:08:56.560 the conversation we had earlier about you know, just the way people are playing 1990 02:08:56.600 --> 02:09:01.079 that game, it win some mainstream that you know, there's that vein's kind 1991 02:09:01.119 --> 02:09:05.520 of been tapped. So it's it's how do you re engage that mainstream audience? 1992 02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:09.399 And are those people willing to pay fifteen dollars a month for anything anymore? 1993 02:09:09.760 --> 02:09:11.680 Or did they have that experience and move on? I think that's the 1994 02:09:13.199 --> 02:09:16.680 like, Wow was the first MMO for probably the vast, vast majority of 1995 02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:20.239 people who played it right, And that's the I mean, like like it 1996 02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:22.560 or not? Like that is the big question mark for Old Republic like, 1997 02:09:22.279 --> 02:09:26.319 who who is it going to attract? How many of them will it attract? 1998 02:09:26.720 --> 02:09:30.079 How long will they stay attracted? I do think you'll get what is 1999 02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:31.720 it? Ten million? Is the number that they we're staying? Yeah? 2000 02:09:33.319 --> 02:09:37.760 Yeah, like maybe almost twelve At some point. I do think that there 2001 02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:41.399 will be twelve million people subscribe to something related to games at some point. 2002 02:09:41.479 --> 02:09:45.279 I think is it an mmo? Who knows? MMOs might be dead, 2003 02:09:45.319 --> 02:09:46.520 but at some point something well, yeah, I think I think the thing 2004 02:09:46.840 --> 02:09:50.640 that whatever the thing is, it will not resemble Wow. But I think 2005 02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:54.720 that that number is meaningless if it isn't attached to a dollar man? Who 2006 02:09:54.800 --> 02:10:00.079 cares if you have ten million subscribers to your free thing? Unless that know 2007 02:10:00.239 --> 02:10:01.680 that? Right? You're right? Like, how many of them are you 2008 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:05.439 monetized? I think it's how many of them are whales? Exactly? Like, 2009 02:10:05.560 --> 02:10:09.560 okay, maybe you have ten million players on your free to play thing, 2010 02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:11.159 but how many of those people? Like how much money are those people 2011 02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:15.600 on average spends? Your conversion? Because all sorts of there's all sorts of 2012 02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:20.680 terms and figures, and that when you start hearing it broken down by people 2013 02:10:20.720 --> 02:10:26.720 that are working on those games, like different people, still sounds like a 2014 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:33.119 business and not a game anymore. I'm low hanging fruit. Wait what about 2015 02:10:33.159 --> 02:10:41.279 yours? It's Emotion Explosion, uh Ian in Bethlehem, PA, Hey bomb 2016 02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:45.359 cast. I've noticed rumors about the next generation of system ramp up and uh 2017 02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:48.399 system ramp up lately, and if true, I wonder how this affects games 2018 02:10:48.560 --> 02:10:52.119 in the middle of development. Specifically, I'm thinking about BioShock Infinite. What 2019 02:10:52.279 --> 02:10:56.319 a game this ambitious benefit from waiting until the next generation so it can take 2020 02:10:56.359 --> 02:10:58.479 advantage of the beef your hardware, or would other factors deter them from this 2021 02:10:58.640 --> 02:11:01.720 choice? How do companies wigh the pros and cons when they're on the cusp 2022 02:11:01.840 --> 02:11:05.000 of the next generation you invert the levels and release it on the other con 2023 02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:09.359 exactly, No, I mean they're building it to the specification of current consoles 2024 02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:13.399 and stuff, so that's not really so like scope and scale are all designed 2025 02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:16.920 with the current stuff in mind, explicitly in minds quite The best you could 2026 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:18.720 probably get out of it is run it at ten ADP sixty frames a second. 2027 02:11:18.800 --> 02:11:22.159 Well, yeah, which you know a PC version of that game will 2028 02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:24.439 be able to do anyway, right, So right, not that big of 2029 02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:28.760 a deal. Yeah, it's I don't think it's that hard, except in 2030 02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:31.000 cases where you know, you start development on a game and then it ends 2031 02:11:31.039 --> 02:11:33.640 up getting pushed back unexpectedly, and then all of a sudden, you're trying 2032 02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:39.119 to release it after those systems are out. Yeah, and that's that's becomes 2033 02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:46.159 a very different, uh different prospect, I guess, And you know when 2034 02:11:46.159 --> 02:11:48.279 you see that stuff happen. I feel like Nintendo has all of the most 2035 02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:52.600 classic examples of we were going to make this on the n sixty four, 2036 02:11:52.720 --> 02:11:56.279 but then we made it on the GameCube. Or Ryan Star Fox Adventures, 2037 02:11:56.520 --> 02:12:00.560 you were going to make this on the GameCube, but we made it on 2038 02:12:00.600 --> 02:12:05.840 the Wii, Selda, they made it on both. Right, A lot 2039 02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:09.800 of third party stuff with that, remember all those uh like Activision games and 2040 02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:13.159 stuff. Yeah, gun gun things like that. Well that was Yeah. 2041 02:12:13.199 --> 02:12:15.640 Then there were the weird things where they're like, Okay, we this actually 2042 02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:18.399 was made for the spect for the x respect just cause for the Xbox, 2043 02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.159 but we're still gonna crank out a three sixty version because we can just upread 2044 02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:24.920 stuff a little bits come out on He came out on the PS two, 2045 02:12:26.119 --> 02:12:28.760 the Xbox, and the Xbox three sixty. It was a weird time. 2046 02:12:28.840 --> 02:12:31.760 What does PS two just cause look like I don't want to know you know 2047 02:12:31.840 --> 02:12:33.119 what, you're good? I don't want to know? Yeah, yeah, 2048 02:12:33.279 --> 02:12:37.800 yeah, gun. That's another great example of that, kind of the Tony 2049 02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:41.439 Hawk game that came out that two X No, well, no, I 2050 02:12:41.520 --> 02:12:43.880 mean the one that came out the first one for three sixty Oh right right, 2051 02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:46.960 American Waste Land. Yeah, you know, like same pipe deal where 2052 02:12:46.960 --> 02:12:52.960 there's these like half step up ports there were. Yeah. Even the original 2053 02:12:54.039 --> 02:12:56.680 software at launch of the three sixty was nothing like what we've got now. 2054 02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:01.880 Yeah, totally perfect, remember the outfit? Yeah I do, I do? 2055 02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:07.159 I do that. Being said, I am ready that weird time. 2056 02:13:07.319 --> 02:13:09.960 I hope the launch is better this time. I really do. Like I 2057 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.760 hope that maybe they like the hardware spects are not as much of a moving 2058 02:13:13.800 --> 02:13:16.960 target, or like, you know, the processes are more mature or whatever, 2059 02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:20.199 like something yields better launch games than than we've had in the past. 2060 02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:24.960 Surprise, you've got more ram than we told you you'd have. You have 2061 02:13:24.079 --> 02:13:28.319 no time left advantage of it. It'd be great, like pleasant surprises, 2062 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:31.640 like this is a whole other processor in here. Just don't worry about it. 2063 02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:33.840 It's great, but then they're like, Oh, we could have made 2064 02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:37.439 it so much, this would have been so much easier. Oh fuck, 2065 02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:39.840 we already spent all this work doing this. I guess we don't have to 2066 02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:46.239 optimize now. Great ship it. Uh. This next gamel comes in from 2067 02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:50.399 Tim in Los Angeles. Howdy bomb Squad. I am currently in grad school 2068 02:13:50.439 --> 02:13:54.159 for the library and Information studies, and I've been thinking about an idea of 2069 02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:58.600 integrating video games in public libraries, seeing as how they are becoming a much 2070 02:13:58.640 --> 02:14:01.720 more mainstream and culturally important form of expression. I was just curious to hear 2071 02:14:01.720 --> 02:14:05.840 any thoughts you guys might have on the idea. It seems like this would 2072 02:14:05.880 --> 02:14:09.479 not only be an interesting way of preserving the history of gaming and exposing the 2073 02:14:09.560 --> 02:14:11.560 younger generation who will probably be making our games in the future, to the 2074 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:15.439 roots of gaming, but also using it as a way to get them into 2075 02:14:15.520 --> 02:14:18.039 libraries to expose them to other educational topics. Do you think this is something 2076 02:14:18.119 --> 02:14:22.560 that game developers but support or would it just seem like another way to get 2077 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.600 kids to play their games for free. Libraries carry many more media formats than 2078 02:14:26.640 --> 02:14:30.920 books these days, so it seems like video games are the next logical step. 2079 02:14:31.720 --> 02:14:33.960 Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm always trying to expose myself 2080 02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:37.439 to kids, and I think that you know, if they can figure out 2081 02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:41.119 a way to you know, public Yeah, that's I mean, not on 2082 02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:48.079 the internet anymore. Think the Dewey decimal system presents an interesting quandary as it 2083 02:14:48.159 --> 02:14:50.119 relates to classifying these sorts of things. Well, I think, you know, 2084 02:14:50.239 --> 02:14:52.800 it's this still comes back to to, you know, the notion of 2085 02:14:54.119 --> 02:14:56.119 trying to archive this stuff in any format of like you know, how to 2086 02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:07.079 unlike so many other things like unlike books, like or you know, recorded 2087 02:15:07.119 --> 02:15:11.640 audio or film or anything like that. Uh, you know, it's it's 2088 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:13.520 not that hard to get it from one to the other. Whereas this there 2089 02:15:13.640 --> 02:15:18.920 is this weird underlying technical layer to all games that you have to suss out 2090 02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:22.159 before it like microfiche. You know, you just have the consoles there at 2091 02:15:22.159 --> 02:15:24.520 the library and then you can just use them. You can't take you home, 2092 02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.359 but if you want to just grab so it's like a television game and 2093 02:15:28.439 --> 02:15:31.039 check it out. Yeah. So, but it's this weird thing where you 2094 02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:35.439 know, right now, yeah, the it becomes harder and harder to play 2095 02:15:35.840 --> 02:15:41.680 an in television game and it's original state every passing day because the hardware becomes 2096 02:15:41.720 --> 02:15:45.079 more and more rare. At the same time, you know, they're emulating 2097 02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:48.760 and trying to make it available on other platforms, but you start to wonder, 2098 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:52.000 like how far away from the original do you get the you know, 2099 02:15:52.239 --> 02:15:56.039 more times you emulate and and are trying to guess what this was originally supposed 2100 02:15:56.039 --> 02:16:00.800 to look like. So it's a I feel like it is an interesting challenge 2101 02:16:00.840 --> 02:16:05.720 that specifically games have to take that a lot of other you know, media 2102 02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:09.319 just don't even have to consider. I think it's an interesting idea, but 2103 02:16:09.439 --> 02:16:11.920 I think like trying to position it is like, you know, something for 2104 02:16:13.159 --> 02:16:16.600 kids. I don't know how many old ass games kids have the patients to 2105 02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:20.600 look at. I think this seems like a meaningful thing at like a full 2106 02:16:20.680 --> 02:16:24.520 sale or you know, a DigiPen or something like the Smithsonian is getting into 2107 02:16:24.520 --> 02:16:28.640 the into the act, like they've got they've got a gaming thing going. 2108 02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:33.000 But I mean you would have to already be interested in a gaming focused curriculum 2109 02:16:33.280 --> 02:16:37.079 to the point that like, okay, history of games is of significant enough 2110 02:16:37.959 --> 02:16:41.239 interest that you're going to want to go those many layers deep and have those 2111 02:16:41.239 --> 02:16:46.440 sort of resources at your disposal, right, that regularly? So, And 2112 02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:48.399 I don't know all of the public libraries I used to go to have been 2113 02:16:48.479 --> 02:16:54.040 closed down. So really yeah the public libraries is one's still open. I 2114 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.200 think that's sad. Yeah, I agree, that's not good. Yeah, 2115 02:16:58.200 --> 02:17:03.680 so so I am. I am more concerned about just the existence of public 2116 02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:07.479 libraries at this point. Public libraries rank kindle books now crazy? The San 2117 02:17:07.479 --> 02:17:11.280 Francisco one does? Yeah, yeah, check out? How do you do 2118 02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:16.440 that? You get it first on my kindle? It's not like I borrow 2119 02:17:16.520 --> 02:17:18.159 one of there, it's yours. I don't know what the process is to 2120 02:17:18.239 --> 02:17:22.079 like get your device connected to them and all that stuff. But it's like 2121 02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:26.559 time limit internet? Do you think it's time limited? But they do have 2122 02:17:26.680 --> 02:17:31.159 a finite number of copies to lend out. I think it's great idea. 2123 02:17:31.200 --> 02:17:33.319 It's a license, yes, it's you know, they have X number of 2124 02:17:33.360 --> 02:17:37.000 licenses for this book. Okay, how it works? So it's a business 2125 02:17:37.040 --> 02:17:39.440 thing, you know, it's not some weird they are adapting. Yeah, 2126 02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:43.479 but yeah, sure, sure, I don't know. I don't know how 2127 02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:45.360 many books it's for that kind of thing. I don't have a kindle. 2128 02:17:45.440 --> 02:17:48.040 But but have you tried it? No, I have, but I just 2129 02:17:48.239 --> 02:17:50.719 go there to do it. I don't think so. I think you could 2130 02:17:50.719 --> 02:17:54.319 do it online. But good on them. If you have a library card, 2131 02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:58.799 I think you do. I still do. I hope you do. 2132 02:17:58.920 --> 02:18:01.200 I have a library card. It's punched. I never had a San Francisco 2133 02:18:01.239 --> 02:18:05.920 library card. Really. Yeah, there's that library that's right around the corner 2134 02:18:05.959 --> 02:18:07.479 from there too. Yeah. They're rebuilds it too. It's beautiful. Did 2135 02:18:07.520 --> 02:18:09.760 they because it was kind of a ship hole before. Oh man, they 2136 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:15.959 completely rebuilt itam keeping the grounds like it looks amazing. Yeah, it is 2137 02:18:16.079 --> 02:18:20.079 nice. Phil Waddle from Santa Cruz, California says, Hey, guys, 2138 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:26.399 just wondering if you can confirm from me what characters Nolan North voices in Arkham 2139 02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:28.120 City. I saw his name in the game's credits, but all the voice 2140 02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:31.639 actors were just listed without indicating what characters they portrayed. I AMDB list him 2141 02:18:31.719 --> 02:18:35.600 is playing the Penguin, though I'm a little hesitant to believe that, since 2142 02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:39.440 Penguin's cockney draw in Arkham City sounds nothing like that trademark North voice voice work. 2143 02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:41.879 We've come to recognize and love in the majority of the games we play 2144 02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:46.200 every year. However, if he actually did provide the voice of mister Cable 2145 02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:50.399 Pott, I would like to say that this his performance could easily upset un 2146 02:18:50.399 --> 02:18:54.159 Try three for this year's Northey, as it is certainly the most unknown North 2147 02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:56.319 Nolan North voice I've heard yet. Thanks guys, and keep up the excellent 2148 02:18:56.760 --> 02:18:58.799 Yeah, as far as I know that, yes, he really is the 2149 02:19:00.200 --> 02:19:07.000 confirmed he is the penguin as well as thugs plenty, so apparently there this 2150 02:19:07.159 --> 02:19:13.719 is the second iteration of you can have Nolan North talking to Nolan Worth after 2151 02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:16.120 after Mafia too. That's good him have both pairs of that. Good. 2152 02:19:16.479 --> 02:19:18.760 I don't I don't know if you people realize this, but Nolan North is 2153 02:19:18.799 --> 02:19:22.840 a master of his craft. But you know, is a serious sound like 2154 02:19:24.120 --> 02:19:26.000 he's the you know, Nathan Drake. He's Yeah. I thought I thought 2155 02:19:26.040 --> 02:19:30.719 they all got the like animated cast or something an entire game. Good. 2156 02:19:30.879 --> 02:19:33.680 Good for him, he does a great job, fantastic, But I still 2157 02:19:33.680 --> 02:19:39.959 got to say, uh uh space or as far as if we're gonna start 2158 02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:46.799 talking early Northeast space space spear, Yes, I thought he was just the 2159 02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:52.920 adventure sphere. Nope. Wait, isn't he all spears. I don't think 2160 02:19:52.920 --> 02:19:56.479 he's I don't think he's all, but I'm pretty sure he if he's on. 2161 02:19:58.040 --> 02:19:58.920 If he's on, wouldn't they be talking to each other? Again, 2162 02:20:00.879 --> 02:20:03.479 they don't never really talk to each other. No, they kind of have 2163 02:20:03.680 --> 02:20:07.760 their little Yeah. Well, because they're just all in that bucket and then 2164 02:20:07.799 --> 02:20:11.760 you grab one. Yeah, all right, I guess there is I guess 2165 02:20:11.840 --> 02:20:15.360 whatever. There is a little bit at the at the very very end. 2166 02:20:16.520 --> 02:20:20.319 Jeez, all right anyway, anyway, Yeah, I just I'm just saying 2167 02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:24.040 I did a little Nolan North research earlier today because I was trying to remember, 2168 02:20:24.079 --> 02:20:26.280 like, what else has he done this year? Because we started thinking 2169 02:20:26.280 --> 02:20:31.360 about Northeast the important awards, like almost getting chills thinking about the end of 2170 02:20:31.399 --> 02:20:35.799 that game. It was so awesome. It's good stuff. Oh my god. 2171 02:20:35.040 --> 02:20:37.479 Yeah, So whatever you want about the rest of that game, the 2172 02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:41.200 last five minutes of it. Man, they yeah, they topped it off 2173 02:20:41.280 --> 02:20:48.079 nicely. Yeah. So yeah, confirmed, Nolan North is the penguin in 2174 02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:56.319 that game. Let's see, hear a guy bitching about pandas Jeff from Indianapolis, 2175 02:20:56.879 --> 02:21:01.360 Indiana, how do you guys with the reason to talk about the Simpsons 2176 02:21:01.479 --> 02:21:03.559 ending only be renewed again for two more seasons. It got me thinking whether 2177 02:21:03.639 --> 02:21:07.239 or not we'll ever see another Simpsons video game. From the infamous Arcade game 2178 02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:11.120 to the slew of games that released in the nineties such as Krusty's Fun House 2179 02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:15.120 and Virtual Bart, and the most recent games such as Simpsons Road Rash and 2180 02:21:15.200 --> 02:21:18.479 Simpsons Hit and Run. It would be really nice to see one more final 2181 02:21:18.520 --> 02:21:22.399 Simpsons game that's actually good before the show ends. It will eventually. What 2182 02:21:22.479 --> 02:21:24.920 are your thoughts on this and what Simpsons games did you enjoy? Love the 2183 02:21:24.959 --> 02:21:28.559 show and thank you? I want to see all new Virtual Bart, Virtual 2184 02:21:28.600 --> 02:21:33.639 Bart two point oh yep, finally. Uh you know. I that that 2185 02:21:33.799 --> 02:21:41.079 Simpsons the game, the EA one that was okay, not a total with 2186 02:21:41.319 --> 02:21:46.040 there's and there's some like actually very funny shit and some like very knowledgeable video 2187 02:21:46.120 --> 02:21:48.920 game stuff in there. I still I still still worth playing. I still 2188 02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:52.799 agree with with with the Jeff here who says that Hit and Run is the 2189 02:21:52.799 --> 02:21:56.760 best Simpsons game because they basically made Simpsons Grand Theft Auto and that was kind 2190 02:21:56.799 --> 02:22:03.559 of crazy good. It's a high vault. I don't think so. Road 2191 02:22:03.680 --> 02:22:09.040 Rash. I think it wasn't Simpsons Rash. So yeah, Simpsons road rash. 2192 02:22:09.120 --> 02:22:13.319 Sorry, the prototype guys, what was radical? Radical? Is it? 2193 02:22:13.440 --> 02:22:16.159 I might have been it might have been radical. Well that's kind of 2194 02:22:16.200 --> 02:22:20.680 a bummer of a story. Then all but shut down? No? Right? 2195 02:22:22.520 --> 02:22:28.040 Uh? You know, well everyone survival who protype too? Maybe it's 2196 02:22:28.040 --> 02:22:30.760 still done. Maybe they didn't get shut down. Maybe they just had layoffs. 2197 02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:35.399 Have any any thoughts on Simpsons games that the Is that what it was 2198 02:22:35.440 --> 02:22:37.000 called? The Simpsons? Yeah? I think it was. Yeah, Yeah, 2199 02:22:37.079 --> 02:22:41.680 that was good. I think it was the Simpsons game. I've got 2200 02:22:41.719 --> 02:22:45.040 a copy of it. I've never played. I don't know the five points 2201 02:22:45.079 --> 02:22:48.159 were pushing start. There's some funny Yeah, there's some funny knowing stuff in 2202 02:22:48.200 --> 02:22:56.479 there. Swimming game. I can't Maybe maybe there is a great a great 2203 02:22:56.559 --> 02:22:58.799 Will write gag Man. Really yes, yes, no, I want to 2204 02:22:58.840 --> 02:23:03.360 play. Yeah, that's actually I would read it email earlier and thinking about 2205 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:05.319 it, I was like, fuck, that will write part was amazing. 2206 02:23:05.840 --> 02:23:09.000 It was better than anything that would be in the show itself these days. 2207 02:23:09.239 --> 02:23:13.840 Probably I wouldn't know show. I mean I don't watch it religiously or anything, 2208 02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:16.319 but every time I see the more recent ones, like it's still really 2209 02:23:16.440 --> 02:23:18.959 fucking good. Really, yeah, like alarmingly so I can know it took 2210 02:23:20.159 --> 02:23:22.120 what Yeah, I haven't. I probably haven't watched that show with any regularity 2211 02:23:22.159 --> 02:23:26.920 in like ten years. But that's gonna be a really expensive blue recollection the 2212 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:31.680 Simpsons ones. Yeah, yeah, that's like a five hundred dollars. That's 2213 02:23:31.719 --> 02:23:35.000 like, that's that's like the Law and Order set? How much is that? 2214 02:23:35.600 --> 02:23:41.520 Two hundred bucks? How many seasons? Was that twenty something? Jesus 2215 02:23:41.639 --> 02:23:46.440 really eighty nine eighty nine when that started, So wow, it's a little 2216 02:23:46.479 --> 02:23:48.479 over twenty All right, that's cheaper than I thought. Okay, at a 2217 02:23:48.559 --> 02:23:52.319 certain point, you can't you can't just charge. You can't just say I'm 2218 02:23:52.319 --> 02:23:56.440 minion dollars and you're like, well fucking I'm not gonna buy that. They 2219 02:23:56.520 --> 02:24:01.120 go like sixty dollars season one, Yeah, season scenely expensive and that I 2220 02:24:01.360 --> 02:24:05.079 don't even want to think about what next generation in high def is gonna cost 2221 02:24:05.879 --> 02:24:07.920 all of it. It's gonna cost all of it too. Whatever you've got 2222 02:24:09.120 --> 02:24:11.680 on on DVD, just like the old like standard deaf versions on DVD like 2223 02:24:13.280 --> 02:24:15.799 six years ago, it was like one hundred and thirty dollars a season. 2224 02:24:16.000 --> 02:24:22.159 Yeah, Simpsons is twenty something, twenty five for seasons, yeah dollars. 2225 02:24:22.319 --> 02:24:24.280 No, no, No, it's running that's around this yeah, because it 2226 02:24:24.319 --> 02:24:30.639 started around the same time started. Are you sure I remember watching the Christmas 2227 02:24:30.680 --> 02:24:33.879 Special? Yeah? Yeah, so it will be like twenty two seasons and 2228 02:24:33.959 --> 02:24:37.159 it's not quite twenty five. Yeah, but they'll yeah, but they'll probably 2229 02:24:37.239 --> 02:24:41.319 make it there right with the season's deal they have. You can have the 2230 02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:46.479 Tracy Allman Show. No, no, because the Christmas Special happened after the 2231 02:24:46.639 --> 02:24:50.760 Chris Tracy Allman Show appearances. And also they were so radically different. Yeah, 2232 02:24:50.959 --> 02:24:54.159 go and look at that stuff. Is weird that even just looking at 2233 02:24:54.200 --> 02:24:58.840 early Simpsons stuff's weird looking at this point, for for the way that art 2234 02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.920 style kind of changed. But yes, Brad, if you haven't obviously not 2235 02:25:01.079 --> 02:25:07.159 right now, but sometime next year, why don't you check out the Simpsons 2236 02:25:07.239 --> 02:25:11.079 game. I'll play the Simpsons game, you know, going into that recording 2237 02:25:11.159 --> 02:25:16.520 booth, doing bart lines for twenty two years, getting paid millions and millions 2238 02:25:16.520 --> 02:25:18.239 of dollars. How much money they make, it's a lot six hundred and 2239 02:25:18.280 --> 02:25:22.920 fifty thousand dollars an episode or thereabouts, I believe at least I am led 2240 02:25:22.959 --> 02:25:28.200 to believe by the terrible final season of Entourage that that's how much they make 2241 02:25:28.280 --> 02:25:30.920 for episode. I thought it was eight hundred thousand maybe. I think I 2242 02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:35.000 thought that came up in the when they were talking about canceling it because they 2243 02:25:35.239 --> 02:25:37.040 didn't read the Simpsons. That are the Simpsons that relevant? Like, you 2244 02:25:37.079 --> 02:25:41.920 can they possibly be making their money back on ratings are up or if the 2245 02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:43.920 ratings are there, you know, it doesn't matter, Like they charge X 2246 02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:48.920 amount of dollars for ad space during shows with and I get syndicated out and 2247 02:25:48.280 --> 02:25:56.639 I guess, oh man, they're yeah, oh yeah, those guys the 2248 02:25:56.680 --> 02:26:01.159 back end sag checks in there. Jeez. But then the yeah, the 2249 02:26:01.239 --> 02:26:05.600 whole, the whole, like the contract negotiation stuff ended up coming down to 2250 02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:11.639 being about like profit that they want. They wanted some some percentage of profit 2251 02:26:11.719 --> 02:26:13.760 participation and they were not getting any. And they're like, we're the fucking 2252 02:26:13.840 --> 02:26:18.840 voices. I don't know. I just I don't even understand at that point, 2253 02:26:18.159 --> 02:26:22.079 Like what what you canna do with more money? Well, it's just 2254 02:26:22.159 --> 02:26:24.399 an ego thing. I think it's just the thing as you look at how 2255 02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:28.040 much money they're getting out of it, and like other people are making this 2256 02:26:28.200 --> 02:26:33.799 moneycentages, and you're like, hey, wait a minute. If this much 2257 02:26:33.840 --> 02:26:37.120 money is being made off of this thing that I am helping create, I 2258 02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:39.520 should get a piece of that pot. Also, if you maybe if you're 2259 02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:43.520 getting a percentage, then you can stop doing it and still get residuals from 2260 02:26:43.520 --> 02:26:46.600 they could have stopped doing it, like well maybe it's like ten years ago, 2261 02:26:46.639 --> 02:26:48.879 but maybe you would be able to live the lifestyle you've then become accustomed 2262 02:26:48.879 --> 02:26:54.680 to. I don't know what lifestyle it is. The day and several million 2263 02:26:54.719 --> 02:27:00.879 dollars a year scientology bro residuals scientology. I wish I had just played saxophone 2264 02:27:00.959 --> 02:27:03.479 on that intro. I could retire. I'm not clear yet, man, 2265 02:27:03.079 --> 02:27:09.840 Nope, keep dumping money into this. Mervin from Bloomington, Indiana. Hey, 2266 02:27:09.959 --> 02:27:13.840 guys, I work at a stark store called Kroger. Does this make 2267 02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:22.879 me a Kroken? What is Kroger? So the phage it's no, I'm 2268 02:27:22.920 --> 02:27:26.319 not it's a yeah, it's a it's a really bad plate. No one 2269 02:27:26.399 --> 02:27:30.440 should go to that store. Honestly, I don't know why it's even open. 2270 02:27:30.520 --> 02:27:33.079 If I could get it to go and then give it to somebody else, 2271 02:27:33.159 --> 02:27:35.399 then maybe no, No, they gotta give you the phage there. 2272 02:27:35.520 --> 02:27:41.399 No, I'm so I'm not going They have a drive through, yeah, 2273 02:27:41.399 --> 02:27:45.159 but you still gotta call it in. Oh, forget it. It's like 2274 02:27:45.239 --> 02:27:48.319 going to the pharmacy at the Walgreens, like, yeah, you can drive 2275 02:27:48.360 --> 02:27:52.719 through, but you already gotta have your thing going there than I know I 2276 02:27:52.879 --> 02:27:58.079 know. Gavin from Scottsdale, Arizona dear bomb cast in the same vein as 2277 02:27:58.200 --> 02:28:01.559 the long fought Gift Jiff and GiB Jib debates. I must ask how the 2278 02:28:01.639 --> 02:28:07.079 final fantasy currency, the Gill, is meant to be pronounced. Patrick pronounced 2279 02:28:07.120 --> 02:28:09.600 it Jill on the recent BombCast and that really threw me. Thanks for your 2280 02:28:09.680 --> 02:28:13.280 help, and Patrick's not here to defend himself. I don't recall that. 2281 02:28:13.959 --> 02:28:18.239 Yeah, okay, so we are all in agreement. Gil Gil I always 2282 02:28:18.639 --> 02:28:24.200 said gil Gil Gil Geill, gil Gerard Gill. Yeah, like Gil Grunt. 2283 02:28:24.719 --> 02:28:28.200 Yes, as you're like your favorite Skylander. Come on, he's not 2284 02:28:28.319 --> 02:28:31.639 my favorite. He's up there. I was saying to favorite of the starters, 2285 02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:33.559 which I thought it was gonna be trigger happy, but he's got a 2286 02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:39.799 water jet pack it so just like Mario, Yeah, like an off brand 2287 02:28:39.879 --> 02:28:43.319 Mario. Yeah, it's like an off brand Mario Sunshine because it's got a 2288 02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:46.360 water jet pack and a water hose. You can kill stuff with it. 2289 02:28:46.920 --> 02:28:52.120 And that's it for emails. Thanks to everyone who wrote in bodcast at Giant 2290 02:28:52.120 --> 02:28:52.920 bomb dot cook at a lot of emails in this week. That's good. 2291 02:28:54.559 --> 02:28:58.200 Uh, And that's it for the show. Thanks for listening. Jeff, 2292 02:28:58.239 --> 02:29:01.280 have a safe trip. I hope yes, I hope so. And we 2293 02:29:01.319 --> 02:29:07.440 will see all of you next Tuesday in another exciting edition of the Giant bod. 2294 02:29:07.559 --> 02:29:11.760 Is that the action packed one? The action the action packed stunning conclusion 2295 02:29:11.000 --> 02:29:13.600 to the Giant Podcast