Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to tres Told You, the
first Trevs Told you of the new year of twenty twenty four. It is
good to be back. Sorry, it has been a quick Oh excuse me,
it's been a quick A long minute. I think what I don't know,
maybe since November October. Oh boy, I can't remember last time I
did one. It's been a minute. But you know, holidays is very
busy. I'm gonna get that talking about some sort of schedules and conflicts and
whatnot. But yes, thank you very much for tuning in if you are
with your video audio live ten weeks later. Who knows, I don't know.
I don't have a plan for Travis Told You. We have and luckily
a big thank you. I guess like a myer spoiler that like, we
have our survey in town hall coming up. Majority of the people, let
me, I'd like to give you the dats as far as like what's going
on here in the geek first world, right, let me pull up the
survey. You know, I was pretty happy with it. So what I
can say is like, like it's trust Told isn't going anywhere. And even
somebody, uh said like, oh, if I can you know, even
if you do this monthly, that'd be great. But where was the percentage
here? Let's see, sixty three percent voted the keep it, and then
the well, I guess it's like what as it listens to it every week?
And then nine percent two out of three in a month, then nine
percent uh, depends on the topic, and then eighteen percent rarely or not
at all. So that's that nice, Like that eighteen percent of geek versus
listener fan base, that's the one that hates me. Go, man,
I already hear Tras talk enough. I don't need to, but I'll take
that sixty three percent, and I'll take the even the other nine then nine
eighteen, Like we're up there in the high eighties. So that's where it's
like, this isn't going away. I just don't have a plan with it
yet. I don't have what's going to be happening. Andrew Haley, Hey,
nice to see you, nice star Fader thumbnail. You got all going
on there? Hey, geek? First, what is your thoughts of the
copyright DC characters nine years from now being public being in public domain? A
hunter. I will get to that question in five minutes, so stay tuned
or you can take out the replay. But I will just talk about some
overalls and then we'll get that because that did come up, so we can
talk about that a little bit. And we're gonna talk about Batman first anyway,
so I'll probably lump it in with that. So yeah, trust it's
not going anywhere, and I'll reiterate that on the town hall. It's just
that I don't even know, Like I definitely can't do weekly right now.
I think once and we're gonna get into the movie thing. There's two sections
here. I'll get into Adrenachrome for a second, but i'll get into here
where once Adrenochrome is done, I will have more time. So that's why
I'm kind of waiting. But that's why it's like until March is I don't
see this coming back weekly. I think there might be a time, especially
at the end of February when Halo comes back. I won't be on those
reviews in like Last Airbender Live. Actually there's a lot of reviews and content
I'm not gonna be on. So that's where, Okay, if I usually
have a cast off, that's what I like to replace, Like okay,
boom, I'll you know, not casting here, I'll do here. You
know. That's why lots of times if there's like I'm a Marble alliance,
I'm gonna step back from geek for just for time with right So right now,
it's definitely not gonna be weekly. I'd love it to be bi weekly,
but I guess I can at least promise once a month. But I
feel like it's gonna happen because I got this. I feel like next week
I'll be back and they'll do Oscar predictions. I would love too. I
know, I suppose might be out there listeners. I would love to before
trying to a Royal Rumbles prediction and get s Bubbs and U David on there.
I've not talked to them at all, so this is the first they're
hearing about. But it's just the time. I don't even know if I
have the time, like i'd like to do that, and I might do
the watch along. So right now it's just busy with that. There's lots
of other casts being recorded in the beginning of the year. I just life
stuff in general, you know, So we'll see. But that's the plan,
is like what once a month for sure, up until maybe spring,
and then it might blossom back to weekly. It might be weekly, And
like I said, I think the next few weeks you'll hear from me because
I think I would do a Traves told you for the Oscars and I would
do them probably for the Royal Rumble or somewhere around then. So it just
kind of depends when I can sneak in and sneak out. But I appreciate
people that did vote saying hey, yeah, you know, like you know,
keep doing this. I like doing this, and most people even said
don't change the format, So I appreciate that there's a little like, oh
ad this, but uh yeah. So we'll see lots to talk about at
the town hall, so we'll do that. But I'm happy to be back.
I think for the next Traves told you to time with the Oscars.
I know there's we're gonna do an oscar pool at Discord, so I don't
know. I'll have to ask the patrons and stuff. I wonder if we
could do like an Oscar watch long or something. I don't know what people
if they watch it with groups or whatnot. We'll we'll see, but we're
gonna do lots of Oscar content more probably with the patrons and the discord.
So join one of those two. Speaking of oscars, look at the feed
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like you know, with you know CPMs and ad rates down stuff like that,
that's why it's harder to justify doing Travis every week, you know,
tras told you, or even spin off shows and spin off news and stuff.
We still do them, but it's been tough, especially these amount people
and know we've talked about before. We're like CPMs, ad rates, revenues,
they're just like they fucking just crash in January. And it's a great
time because we do that. We pay for our small business taxes, we
pay for stream Yard, we pay for our own small business personal ones.
What's the other one? There's another one we pay for to or our small
business license. So it's like we just get hit so hard and we're all
fine. I'm not, We're not. I'm not sitting here with the cups
saying oh please, but no. If you like the stuff we do and
you want more of it, that's the best way to get it, whether
it is the content there's exclusive episodes on there on the Patreon feed, or
just to produce more of it, that's the best way. But if not,
you'll be getting the MCU Golden Geeks and all the other Golden Geeks sparsed
out like last year. So this MCU episode space into four episodes every week
you'll get two categories. But if you ah for DCU for the overall Golden
Geeks, I don't want that head over the Patreon because you'll begin the day
of so and yeah, voting is gonna start very soon on those. We'll
let them play it for a couple of weeks. Within the patrons will get
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You get to pick all the winners for MCU, DCU and the overall gold
Geeks. It's a fun time people. I think this is some of the
it's lowered as far as we said, like the retention and ad revenue and
even people being busy. But this is some of my favorite casts, and
I feel like some of everyone's favorite casts, like whether it's a draft for
gold geeks, it's just a fun time. So yeah, there's not much
news popping off. We actually have some stuff to talk about tonight, but
if you want to get to it, some entertaining casts. They're all there.
They're still coming, so look out for that. What else is there?
Okay, so Patrens know this. If you listen, there you go.
I haven't officially announced this, but I'm gonna do this now just to
be safe because it's looking good. But and there will be a cutout of
this, but we have to delay Adrenochrome, not by much. I'm not
going to this. What I'm gonna say, I'm not going to publicly date
it yet. I will say what we're what I'm aiming for is what is
that official day. I'm not gonn announce. I'm just go announced that it's
delayed, but it will be soon. Just because I'll tell you what happened.
It was kind of a wild time. So my personal date. I'm
trying to aim for the sixteenth, so that's the Friday after the super Bowl.
If you don't know. Adrenochrome is our very first movie being made.
We're in post production. I am ninety ninety five percent done. There's just
literally two things we have to reshoot. They're just very minor that were just
like literally one was like, oh, that's the wrong angle, like it's
a left arm versus right arm thing, and then when I edit it back
together. And then the other thing was just the editing got delayed where I
had ten or nine days off for Christmas, and what happened was my family
stayed a little longer so Christmas and just Activity's family went further, which was
fine, but I had time a lot for all these are days I'm gonna
edit. Family stayed. And then for right after New Year's Eve, I
had those next three days off, and that's where another time I was gonna
edit. I got deadly, like which stick was sick? Was it?
Oh? That was the cold sick and like a fever. I was fucking
just freezing. And then finally it was like, okay, I got better
and there was this clear night and then I got like the stomach bug for
two nights, so literally because of those few things, and then my kids
got sick. That's so I still got some stump stuff, some stumb done,
some stuff done, but not as much as I wanted to and not
as much as like I wanted to be, Like, no movie is perfect,
and this is definitely not perfect, but I want to be smooth sailing.
I want to be. I'm happy with like, this is the best
we can achieve with our budget, our gear, our time, and we're
very close. It's still happening if people don't know it's our film, and
we're going to be putting in festivals next year, but we can't release it
publicly like for rent forever. We can't do a public screening if we want
to join certain festivals. So what's gonna happen is and I think this works
for most of the rules for festivals where we're going to do a four day
rental system. I think it's gonna be on Patreon, but we're still gonna
play with that. It's gonna be like a Friday to Monday. You can
rent it, have it as long for that, and then after that it
will be gone. It'll be taken away just because in order to put into
festivals, it can't be streaming other places. But we know lots of people
have been asking, oh, when can we see it? When can we
see it? And I don't know if we'll do this with every single film,
but with people that have support us, and as we said before,
patrons you know ad revenue as well, but patreons especially like this film happened
because of you, these podcasts and that film. It's crowdfunded, it's fan
funded, it's listener funded. You guys literally help pay for the camera that
we use, you know. So that's the thing where we want to get
the first crack at it and be able to rent it and take a look
at it, and then in a year from now or so it will be
available for everyone. Maybe you don't have the money, maybe if you want
to wait, and they'll be like a rental option and a by option.
The by option will will roll it out, but that's gonna have like commentary
tracks, bloopers, a bunch of things, so it'll be a little extra,
but it'll be worth it. So that's what I'll say right now that
it is officially delayed. I'm hoping for February sixteenth. I don't want to
date it yet. It's gonna be Q one. I'm very close. I
just want to run through. I also want to sit down with Kirkland Taylor
and watch it through the run through the whole time. So that's why there
will be a cutout. I will say that it's you know coming soon,
you know. It's just I want to hit that date. And I really
did think, and I absolutely think that if I had that time in my
break, it would happen. But I was just so pissy, especially the
second time when I got the flu the fever. It sucked, but I
was like, Okay, I'm done, but if I can do like this
Tuesday and Wednesday, that's two days that I have mapped out. Here we
go and I was at work but still was like, okay, work everything.
And I can't remember why. I can't remember why I had those two
nights. I think it was just people were away in geekfers so I still
weren't podcasting. I was like, okay, these two nights, I can
make it firm and stapp late. I've had a couple late nights ready,
but yeah, and there's still like one song I'm trying to narrow down as
far as like do I want to use it with this, you know,
like it's there's a song I want to use, but it's just like is
it worth the time and effort to do it. It's a great song,
but it's just like there's certain things with it and everything. So it's there's
still a few kings to work out, but it's gonna happen. So don't
get too disappointed, because I know we' even got that a couple of times
on the survey. I was like, I can't wait to see the movie,
and I was like, oh no, like it might delay it,
but again, it's gonna be ce one. It's gonna be sooner than you
think, you know, like not sooner than you think actually because we delayed
it and I gave you kind of a date. But that's the working idea.
It's just because we just like I said, we wanted to be as
good as possible. I don't want to rush it to hit a date because
like it's it's our movie, that's our date. Like there's no like that's
the nice thing of us controlling this going to festivals next year if we release
it ourselves, like we get to control the release of this, so I
don't want to be rushed, and if for some reason it happens to be
done, great, But that's why I'm kind of waiting till after this weekend
because I have a few more finishing touches and uh, but yeah, I
want to be good because yeah, oh and there was a software system too,
which is our software system era problem, which was just a pain.
It was one of those things where I'm using Falca Pro and then another software
and literally nowhere on their website, both of them tell you what the issue
is. You just got to find it on like the fiftieth comment on Reddit
and they go, oh, this works. So it worked. But there
was a time where it was gonna be like Uber delayed. Oh hang on,
my water's way over there. And there was a time where it was
gonna be delayed like like months and months because I was like, I'm gonna
have to start a bunch of this over not refilming. Luckily, they just
editing. But it was good. I saved something right away. It was
just a weird Technology is great and then it can just have this big bug.
So that's the update right now. Adrenochrome is delayed right now, tentatively
to February. Once that's locked down, I'm the next time I know it's
a date, it's gonna be when I have it completely all rendered, done,
showing Taylor and Kirkland. And that's what I thought was going to happen
at this point. It was gonna be Kay, I'll finish in December,
show it to them, we'll be done and go. But just holiday,
family sickness, tech stuff. It all happened like within those two weeks and
it was such a pain in the ass. But it's still all going good.
It's still gonna be seen. And yeah, we're also I think another
one those days too coming out. The reason won't be editing it because we're
gonna be filming. We're working on our sounds weird. But we're working on
a third film. I know. I think we've announced that. Yeah,
we've announced we have a third film. Yeah, our second film. We're
about to be done the filming of that. We're just waiting for the seasons
to change because the the's snowing a lot here, so we have to film
a few things that are not snow and then the third film. Yeah,
I'm very excited because we've not even shared anything details, and we're not gonna
for a while. That one we're gonna sit on because it's at least two
years away now, because that's the plan is to release season the next you
know what, film one, this year, film too, next year,
film through the other year. So yeah, let's talk about some of the
stuff. We're gonna take a drink of water. M glorious water, the
best streak in the world. But all right, the Batman, the Batman
Part two, so we're gonna be talking about the film and delays possibly,
I don't know, it's all kind of up in the air, right,
But to Hunger and Iggy Hunter Iggy ass Hey geek, First, what are
your thoughts on the copyright the DC characters nine years from now being in public
domain, not published domain, public domain probably just a typo. Mm hmmm.
I'm sure a lot of people are gonna want to do things with that
come that time, right, I'm sure there's a lot of people that maybe
wrote some treatments in middle school that would love to get a crack at that.
Hm. Anyway, so what does that mean? Not really, so
people can if people don't know, they can make with some of these old
things now that never happens, right, like this happened recently a couple of
years ago with Freddy Krueger, where it's like the rights went back to Wes
Craven. I think stuff that's newly made in IP that doesn't happen anymore.
So, to be clear, I can't remember what year for Superman, but
it's the first iteration with Superman, which I don't even think has the S
on his chest, or if it does, it's a different variation. He's
not called the Man of Steel. Same with Batman, like you can't call
him the Crape, the Crape, the Kate Crusader. You can't use the
bat because if you look at the Batman's logo on the very first issue in
the nineteen thirty nine one, it is like a bat, but it's like
the bats, and it's like the like it's kind of missing the head Travis
Troops of sim oh Man Maddie. I forgot about the Tras Troops, Man
gauland I miss Gatland so much. You know. That's like I think now
luckily with us making movies, that creative muscles being stretched. But I missed
it for so long I still I still miss it. It was a good
time, and one day I hope to bringing backing for just a little run
here and there. But so it is just the first iteration of those characters.
Like with Batman, you can't use Alfred, you can't use Rawbin,
you can't use certain viills, you can't use anything past that certain points.
Literally just the first appearance. But it still has like the cape and cow.
He's got the white eyes, he's got the belt buckle, he has
a logo. It's not the full on bat but it like looks close enough
and it looks cool. He has what I really love Scott Centerden like and
grey Capula did like a play on it in New fifty two when they brought
him back, like the purple gloves. I really like that. I like
the aesthetic of that Batman. Of course it's not perfect for what you get
in live action stuff. But so what does it mean? How could Dez
retain the rights to their characters. They have the rights to their characters,
They're not losing them. It's just there's certain iterations that people can now use,
like Steamboat Willie, right, that's the black and white Mickey Mouse specifically
on the boat. Because a lot of people made the black and white Mickey
that had the red shorts. Nah ah, that's not the right mickey.
And people either took that stuff down and they're gonna get sued. So it's
not gonna affect anything other than technically anybody in the world could make a Batman
movie in eleven years, right, So like I think other people, independent
people, fan films. It's like now before you'd have to do that.
This is a fan film and blah blah blah blah. It's not social with
DC. You could make these projects and now make money off as long as
you go without the guy within the guideline. So with whatever it was Batman
nineteen thirty nine, right, you know, no, Alfred Robin, Let's
say there's a list of twenty things you can't do. As long as you
don't do them, you can still make a Batman project and sell tickets.
You could. People have joked about, but you could put Batman in a
Marvel movie, right, as long as it fills in with those you know,
criterias. I would don't want that. I think it'd be great if
they put him in like a what if episode, like do that, like
Superman, Wonder, Roman Joker. Those would be fun ideas. But do
I think any major studio is going to do that. I don't think a
major one. I don't think like universal paramount anything like that. Maybe Marvel
you could do like a what if like that's I mean, like just an
animate show. But do I think a major one. No. Do I
think other ones, like like smaller students made sure to make a name for
themselves, or even just some studios. Yeah, maybe like maybe maybe someone
at A twenty four has this pitch of what they're gonna do with the Batman,
right, and there's still something like we have that like the real life
Joker coming out or something like that, So there's already things you can do
with it. And if it's like parody, so I'm I don't people like,
oh my god, this is not the end but disagreeing with so much
bad adaptions. Who knows, But I this is what I will say.
And if I was somebody that was going to do this in eleven years,
what I would want is I would actually want to make a Batman horror film
in a sense, but not in And I'm not saying everybody has to do.
I'm saying what I would want to do, not in the sense of,
you know, pooh, blood and honey, I don't want Batman blood
honey. Just the sense of, like we've got a little bit in the
Nolan, once we got the most of the Matt Reeves stuff. Think about
doing like a Batman set in the Arkham Asylum. Now you can't use Arkham
Asylum, you can't use those characters. But if you create your own villains,
your own weirdos, your own jail, give it that vibe enough the
fans will pick up and know, oh you could call it double a prison
whatever it is, right, Like you can just like fudge the numbers.
That's what I would like to see, is like grounded, realistic, Like
you could go big and maybe someone will. I know, let's say a
paramount wants to make a big blockbuster just Batman nineteen thirty nine. One sure,
But what I'd say is do go very personal. And even though that
era is a bit more of a funny like not funny, but it's a
golden age Batman lightharted, Like you don't have to do that if you're trying
to make it darker, but just go personal routes, do the bare minimums,
Like this is the time where that's how you're gonna stand out. Or
you gotta do stuff like the fan film like, uh god, what is
the Oh geez, I've forgotten it. It's the Batman versus Predator one.
Damn it, I can't remember. But you gotta do something like that.
And that's where you could get that right, like someone's bring up Shotack Holmes.
So you either got to go balls of the walls out there like a
poop blood honey, or do something personal. And that's what I would like
for me, is a Batman in a darker horror setting, but not a
Batman blood and Honey or Batman blood and Gotham. You know, like do
do some things that studios wouldn't do with it because they can't because they have
a dollar amount to hit, right they have they don't want to scare the
family's way. That's how you do. I think, like it's tough because
we got Sparman Lois lash Yer, which was awful, I think for multiple
reasons and for real life reasons, right, but they you know, they
set out to try and tell a personal story, but they to me,
it was just like at times it was just trying to be a you know,
a studio carbon copy, but with lower budget. Obviously, if you
have a mega budget, sure go and do that. If you're some billionaire
wants to make Batman movie, sure go and do that. But you know,
and there's certain things like I don't know the battering and use, I
don't know even with the Batmobile. That stuff that could come later. But
yeah, I think that that's what I would think that people should do,
is some more personal stuff, stuff that's going to really resonate. I'm not
saying that Batman didn't. I'm just saying if you were trying to do that
with your fan film stuff, don't try and do, okay, a big
blockbuster, lower budget because you're never gonna outdo that because then you'll just look
at it and go, hey, this is lesser than there was. Even
though Star Wars series kind of shit now with some of his takes everything his
Vader film, he did have lots of budget and that looked great, But
that was also a short film, right, So I think you could do
a big budget short film for Batman, absolutely, But if you're thinking something
longer, I think that's where you could get people doing real, bigger takes
on I still don't think we've really got to take on that Batman is a
psychologically really broken person. I think that Batman's the one that touched upon the
most. I think Batman Forever got close as well too. I think just
going out the whole, like he has to go out there because he's sick
in the mind, you know. So I think there's tons of stuff you
could do. And I'm personally excited because like DC will still make their stuff.
People can't do Justice Leap, people can't touch certain characters and storylines,
and maybe just maybe if DC is putting up mess stuff and everyone goes around
like, oh, this Batman fan film or this film whatever it may be,
is really good, maybe like ah, shit, like we do gotta
change it up, right. So I don't think it's like the end of
Batman. I don't think lots of those Batman ones are gonna make a you
know, a big splash. Let's talk when, like I said, at
Disney, Paramount Universal a twenty four Apple, say hey, we're making a
two hundred million dollars Batman movie and it is just using that stuff, then
we'll go, Okay, let's see you do a Batman black and white for
like a fan film, and even though now technically that's the difference too,
it would not be a fan film anymore. It would just be a film
as long as you stick within those guidelines, it would be a film.
Geek first, Batman killing films, not saving them. No, I wouldn't.
Like I've said this before me personally in real life, I'm a Frank
Castle guy. I believe if guilty penalty. I'm a death penalty guy,
which some people probably don't think fits with me because I'm definitely I lean more
left and everything. I'm all for the death penalty. I have many reasons.
We won't get into it, but I don't think people that do certain
things should have life. I don't say, oh, they're in prison,
Yeah, well they can still eat, they could still have a laugh if
they have a certain time, they can still fucking have orgasms, maybe somewhere
against their will. But some aren't, you know, Like there's many things
in prison. People can still have a life where they've taken life away from
others, you know, I'm all for the death penalty. So but for
Batman, the reason I don't like him to kill, which I think he
did kill in the nineteen thirty nine one and again, it's not like if
you made that Batman he has to kill. It's just like that was part
of the story. He has a gun. But the reason I like Batman
not killing is because for me, when I look at Batman, he's supposed
to be better than us, He's supposed to better me, better than the
rest. So he's supposed to have that where if all will go, no,
I could just pretty sure go law do their time whatever, Right,
So no, if I were to do that, Batman wouldn't be killing.
And if he did kill, it would be a massive deal, a big
story point where something that mbbs it is a massive story point. But for
me, I thought the execution was done poorly. But I feel like it
has to be that. It has to be like the Dark Knight. He
didn't end up killing anybody, right, really, like like it was manslaughter
stuff if he did, But he didn't kill anybody. That was the whole
vocal point in the story, right, So I think that's what you'd have
to do. Many says what villain would you want to play if GeV made
a Batman film? Oh, I you know this answer. I'm the clown
Prince of podcast. That's like the I'm ready to give a very shitty version
of joke er. No, of course, like I'd pour my heart and
soul into that thing. And I'm very excited because our next future projects,
Like I don't think we reveeel much about the second one. The first one,
I you know, one of the main characters that I'm mostly just a
strayman. I'm the guy that we've to give you this an opice, Right,
Robert wakes up in the woods and he's fighting for his life. And
there's acting I do in there, for sure, but it's more just it's
a lot of reacting and I'm playing a normal guy on the run. Right.
The second one, it is a I'm gonna say this, there are
thriller aspects to it, but it is involving realistic people or just characters that
would fit in the real world. That's what I'm excited about. The next
kind of two projects we have coming up. I don't care. Fuck yeah,
We're we're working on a fourth one already. We're we're writing these scripts
and talking about them for project three. In project four, I'm very excited
because that's what I'm gonna get to do some like really good, well goods
subjective, and I'm sure I'll get fucking torn apart because I'm not an actor.
There's there's there's elements of me that are an actor, but I mean,
like I'm not an actor as far as like the high class, high
tier people. So just me trying my best. But I'm excited to do
those because that's gonna be me getting to be a bit more chewing the scenery,
characters that aren't not realistic, but just like more a voltage turned up
to one hundred, you know. So that's what I'm very excited for.
So I would definitely be joking that I'd want to go full and that would
be good, would be not I don't know, but I would definitely do
what I've said before. My critiques are like no ugly joke er, Like
my joke would be very pretty very you know, with the costume everything,
like I we need more of that, So it would definitely have to be
joker. And you know that's the one that happens to be in public domain
in twenty twenty six or twenty thirty six. Oh what a funk. Taleric
One says, this is how we saw Shehrlock Holmes and Cathol Wave in the
past ten years, the ips were free and cheap. Yeah, same thing
with like Robin Hood, King Arthur. Obviously Disney stuff that you can do
Little Mermaid or Aerial, but it just can't be like the Disney songs and
the specific iconography and everything. That's what happens right with those ones. I
think it's a lot broader because it's like the Sherlock Holmes book is public domain,
like maybe the first one or something, so it's like you can take
everything from there, all the film's everything, and then you go upon it.
So if someone if I make a Sharlock Holmes movie, I can't pull
things from the Robert Downey one because that's their iteration. But anything else Sherlock,
I can do that. Right. That's why we have so many Christmas
Carols, right because that's public domain. And there's one that I I hopefully
in my life wink or wink not have talked about wanting to do some things
with because I fucking love Christmas Carol. So but yeah, when it's public
domain, we get lots of stuff. So how will affect it? I
know? And who knows? Maybe we will need it because who knows what's
gonna happen with these Batman films because in this story, so something came out
today about uh, the Batman's film schedule to script everything like that. So
this is where it comes to should we be worried? There's the little tier
worry of just delay, and there's the big tear worry of what's gonna happen
with this movie? Right is still gonna be a go. DCU is always
in flux, so to like know all that, I do think it's gonna
happen. I think part two is safe. I've said this before. Where
for me, if that goes away because of a gun DCU, we couldn't
create a match. I will of course watch the DCU stuff. I'm not
gonnas quitting. It's just my excitement for that drops heavily. You know.
It's something that it's a pre existing franchise or whatever trilogy. Hopefully they said
we're getting the second one. And for me, I love, you know,
James gunn a lot of work, but for me, it's not worth
The DCU as of right now is not worth the Batman. It is a
proven commodity versus the idea of a cinematic universe which could die. First thing
at the gate, right, And I understand this because I saw some of
the Gua people and Clay chimed in. And Clay also does not like the
Batman, so I wasn't surprised by this. Take Clay if you're listening,
But he said like he was on the other side because while he wants to
get the universe established and then start doing elsewhere with's stuff. And I would
completely agree if the Batman wasn't a thing already, they already said the Batman
two is happening. And the reason I said a thing already because one,
there's a promise there to kind of finish this out, I would feel with
people. But two, it's more so that it is a proven commodity.
It is a success. It made what seven hundred million in the COVID era
and stuff like that, almost eight hundred, right it let me just confirm
that I think it was. I think it's still made like under thor Love
and Thunder or something like that, or maybe they're around the same. Let's
just say the Batman, let's the box off was seventy seventy seven hundred and
seventy two million thor loven Thunder. I don't know why. I just remember
them being very close, and that was sore Love and Thunder was seventy sixty.
Yeah, so it was one of those things that was like close around
to there. And that's why I always said, like people that gave shit
about thor Love and Thunder and they're being a thor or five. It's like
DC and Warner Brothers considered The Batman a mega hit because it made almost eight
hundred million. Thor Love and Thunder did the same thing. You know.
It's like, just because MC was in billions before, does that mean it's
not a mega hit, which I would consider. To me, It's like
once you get to that seven hundred, you're in like the mega hit category,
you know, depending on your budget. Of course. So because what
I was saying to Clay is it's very dumb if you go, let's say
they went, yeah, yeah, we don't actually want to do The Batman
two. We're gonna get rid of that and just hope that the Superman Legacy
works. You get rid of that and the super Legacy super legacy. If
Superman Legacy comes out and disappoints financially, I'm just talking financially, you have
major egg on your face, and I would feel like if I was zas
Off or whoever I Warner Brothers making decisions, I'd go Man first. At
the bat Jim's Gun made a really bad call. It's a lot different if
The Batman Part two comes out and Superman Legacy comes out and it kills like
does very well. That's where I always say Part three for the Batman I'm
always more worried about because I feel like they've also sunk money into this.
As far as getting Reeves and Tomlinson to write the script, They've talked,
you know, I'm sure they're doing production stuff like it would literally be wasting
money. Now Zazov has done that where he'll just write stuff off again attacks
right off. You can't do that with scripts, but you know he has
shown him to throw out stuff, so you never know. But I think
that would be a gun decision. Maybe we'll see, and I think that
would be a mistake way to least until Legacy to make something as bold now,
I don't think so if you were to say, hey, the Batman
three is the end ended there? If we're done, then just do it.
But if you were, and I still wouldn't like that. If you
were say, hey, Legacy was a hit, we actually don't want to
confuse people. We're gonna end up with the Batman two. I would get
it a little bit more as a business person, I wouldn't understand it.
And I think it would also depend on how the Batman two did. Right.
If let's say the Batman two did you know, let's just say nine
hundred million, and Superman Legacy did six hundred and seven hundred, it's like,
okay, very good for Legacy, but it's still not the Batman numbers.
Whether that is the franchise or whether that is a character, whatever it
may be, it's not pulling in that number. So that's the thing where
for me, I think it will still happen, And that would be the
line because I love guns work. But for me, and that's where I
never it all depends to what you're liking, is right, Because I remember
I asked this at the GUA and I think most of them picked the Legacy,
and I don't mean this as a shot at them, And because I've
seen other people on Twitter do the same thing, because it's like, oh
it's new iteration, da da da. For me, it's just like Matt
Reeves is like it to me, I love all the Guardians movies, but
none of them are on the Batman level. And that's not just because like
I'm a Batman fan, you know, I would hate that when people say
it's just like I have multiple projects. I don't like if I just love
everything Batman, you know why am I not giving the BVS tens out of
tens that it came out? You know, like I hate the Oh it's
just Batman fan, that's it. No, like I can say there's films
like I could, as I've said before, if you were to come to
me and say, hey, you know what, I actually think across the
Spier verse better than Batman. So you know what, I can see it.
I can see the argument. I can't see the argument for any of
the Guardians films being as good as a Batman. That's just a personal take.
But it's also just like the craftsmanship of how Reeves does filmmaking, writing
the scope of things, it's a very Nolan den Neville Neuve level, where
I just don't think Gunn has that gear. I'm not trying to be mean,
and maybe he will, maybe Legacy will come out and show me wrong,
but with the suicides. Well of the other stuff too, but combook
stuff, even Suicide Squad and the Guardian's Trilogy, none of that's the Batman
level. And his other stuff like Slither and super none of that is even
clover I'd say, like maybe Cloverfield. Clover Field is different. I'll take
that back because I haven't seen a well, but the Apes movies, those
are like Dawn of the Planet. Apes is fucking juice, you know,
Like he to me, it's just there's different class of filmmakers. And that's
why for me, even if I didn't like love the Batman, it's still
like the Batman too, because it's just like he said, I don't think
we're going to that same filmmaking and Superman legacy. This is the time.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong and he will evolve, right, but I don't
think so, because I think it'll be similar Squad and you know, you
know, fun time and everything. But let's get into these rumors. After
sad break and we're bat and good old Maddy say, it's good to see.
I'll lay you up there over there. You know. Sometimes you're all
wait for these casts and stuff like that. So let's see The wait for
The Batman two is killing me. I need confirmation they start shooting to be
reassured. I know, I gotta be patient that ree's cook though, better
to wait for quality. Yeah, as long as it's still happening, I'm
down to wait. Of course, never know, could get hit by bus
and miss it. But I got The Batman at least number one. I
think I'm gonna be watched that soon because it's been talking about so much.
But so the timeline rigually was it's filming November twenty twenty three. Great,
Okay, it's pushed back, and some of this was to strike stuff too
write, so one hundred percent, even though I feel like they were probably
writing during the strike and they're not gonna say they were, but fine,
whatever, let's say they're not. It gets pushed to March, and we're
coming up on March, and this is where I'll bring up Star Wars later,
coming up to March. And now it's like, no, not so
much. So it's looking like a date of August two thousand, just this
year, August twenty twenty four, and the release date right now is October
next year, if that happens. Because I know Maddie, you're let me
bring it up. I think your Patreon question. I know you had a
few, but I think this one is around here. You go. I
hate to say it, but I feel like we're destined for another March twenty
twenty six release date. Uh, and then obviously asked me my thoughts and
also, do we have news on the Penguin whether they complete filming or when's
expect to be released? So they you just started refilming on Penguin a couple
of weeks ago, So I think if we get that this year, that's
gonna be late this year, or it's kind of like what your scenario is
here. I feel like it's like an October November max drop or like a
March drop. We'll see, but I think it just depends because people could
still edit during the strike, right. I just don't know how much of
the show they filmed, but I think Penguin that's back to filming, so
we'll get it late this year early next year, and twenty twenty six.
It is possible. Now. The thing is, if they legitimately do shoot
in August, that's more than enough time. That's almost a year and a
half because it's August, September, October. Okay, so it's a year
and three months, but sell that's tons of time I think to get that
done, get post protection, and then worst case scenario, yeah, you
do delay it, But if it is later in August going into September,
or if it gets delayed again, then I think August is like the like
to me, that's where Reeves is gonna want time to cook. You know,
he wants to make some of that juice is tasty. So I think
that if it does get delayed one more time, it will get delayed to
twenty twenty six. And honestly, it's like, I do want it.
It's not the worst thing, like I would delay everything else to get it
right, But twenty twenty five is very packed, and it's at the end
of that year. I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.
I don't know if that's like, oh the best for a last people
are gonna really come out for some that's really quality, or if they get
superhero fatigue again and they're just like, oh, like I saw this,
and I saw this, I'll just skip Batman this time. You know.
I'm sure they're gonna make another one. Down the line doesn't matter if I
skip this one, right, So I don't think twenty twenty six pushing is
like the worst thing ever for a business point of view, for our point
of view as fans, Matty, absolutely that's a kick to the balls right
there. Not good. But that's what report was today that it's getting pushed
till August filming, which that's now we're getting longer, which sucks. That
means casting is probably further off. And then there was some sort of line
where let me get the exact quote from the scoop, but it's like,
I think, like a C plus tier scoop, so it's like not one
hundred percent like Variety or Deadline reporter, but let me get the official and
that's why people got like a little war and I think a talk of like
oh shit, okay. So two weeks ago DC head James Gunn had stated
that no scripts had been submitted to him yet A deadline has now been officially
set, which who knows if it's officially because that's up for them, but
officially set for early February script submission, with the casting to fall soon afterwards.
The film was set to be theatrically released October thirty, twenty twenty five,
and I think this was something to do with like I can't remember.
I didn't have that part of the report, but it was something where it
was tied with the legacy production. So it was almost like get it in
by February or you're not. And this is just I was reading into C
plus tiers, scoops and stuff, but it was like get it in by
February or August might not be happening as far as filming, right if it
is, like I I do get that, because you do gotta put your
resources into other things. So it's in a tough spot. Right again,
if I were to talk to James Gunn and he were to say, like,
I promise on your kids, like if I just knew, like if
I had whatever I had truth serve and he couldn't lie to me and said,
no matter what happens, you're gonna get to Batman two. We might
delay it a year, but you're gonna get it. Then I'm fine.
The idea of like it has to be in by February or you know that's
the officially that's the date, Like get in by early February, Right,
I don't want to be My joke was you know Reeve's you know, uh
submits it February second, twelve oh one, and Gun is like, no,
sorry, we're gonna move on. Like I just I don't want to
get in some power struggle scenario and we've no reason to think it happened,
right, But like these shit happens all the time in Hollywood, So I
don't want to be the scenario where maybe Gun wants to put resources to one
film and reason's kind of holding them up. But at the same time,
Reeves is also like, well, I want to get this right. I
want to be rustling. I talk about drowning Crone right, Like I have
the power. We have the power say hey, I don't feel I don't
fee one hundred percent with this cut, yet we're gonna delay it a month,
you know. I Like that's where I said, like, I don't
need to feel the pressure for something. You gotta get this out there.
Different in Hollywood, you get that pressure all the time, right, And
sometimes it being a filmmaker might help those situations because maybe you can just see
idle eye, or maybe it doesn't. I just feel like, oh,
you're trying to put your universe and your film's over mine. I got a
track record. You know, people really enjoyed this. I want to do
more. Who knows what yours gonna be. You just want to do in
the MCU spin off. You like you could see stuff start to fester.
And I'm not trying to be a red eye thumbnail people that say they are
that is happening, right, I'm just saying that's a theory or worrisome from
people. I like, it has to be by February, and cause,
like, why that's what I'm hoping is just a budget thing, right because
if not, why would say it has to be February? Right? When
you just say, like, get me when it's done and then we'll go
from there, you know. And even if you go, hey, sorry,
we're gonna do super first because you took so long, I would say,
yeah, that's fair. I take a little longer. That sucks,
but just give me time because then guess what, I can just refine the
script, war think about actors. So it's like, I just don't believe
that's what is odd. If it is a I don't believe gun right now
is like trying to force them out. But it is also weird if that
was true, of like you need it in by February. That's the deadline
right where it's like, why do we have a deadline for a successful movie?
As long as it's not if it's business wise fine, And that's where
there's like so much head spinning. And I think there's so much stuff because
it has been a while where we got The Batman and then it took a
couple months to get the sequel, and then we keep hearing rumors and stuff.
I think once we even get a cast, I'm not like the Ray
movie or the war Machine movie where I have to see them filming. I
think once we get it cast, then it's like, okay, we're rolling.
Even if we get filming delayed like we got people, they're not gonna
announce the cast nowadays. With The Batman Part two, I think, and
screw this up right, So I'm still confident this will happen. Part three,
I don't know. So much could change by then. The Batman two
could bomb, Superman Legacy bomb, they could both bomb. They could to
both be good, and James might just be like cool, whatever, just
keep doing your things. We're going out like we don't know the scenarios as
we talked about Mission Impossible, Indiana Jones, the marvels Aukaman, the Flash,
Like, there's so many movies that could have been massive, big movies,
and we're in the past that bombed. We don't same thing with this
year, with all the movies out. It's like I don't have a crystal
ball anymore to tell you what for sure is going to do a May hit.
I can get a couple, but it's up in the air with box
office right now, so that's where it's tough. We'll see what happens.
I'm I hope it does get in February. I hope that's just the case
where they submit it, we get a script, and we start to move
on casting everything because I want it. I want it as soon as possible,
but I still want it done well. So we'll see, Because if
this rumor is true, then February or all around, and I would say
by March we'd either start hearing some stuff like productions ago, they're casting this
villain, there's this set piece, set's got to be made or prepped,
or it's Hey, it's fab past three where we haven't heard a thing that
could be that. Hey, he didn't spend time. They're gonna push it
back. That could be this deadline thing is complete bs and not real at
all. Who knows, Maddy says his business wise, you're complete right having
it come out March like the first film. You start the year off with
a banger, absolutely right, Like it worked the last time. That summer
movie season's going more and more like pasted into the spring. And even let
me just take a look for I know the summer's packed, but let's just
like look in the Q four of twenty twenty four here or twenty five.
Sorry, I know it was stacked. So in September, there's nothing there.
October i'll see the Batman Blade. It was November seventh, Okay,
I'm gonna go back. I'm not gonna tell all the stuff after because that
won't matter. So before, let's see the summer. So from June to
August, August, no listings yet. From June Dirty Dancing, June you
Got How to Train Your Drink, Live Action Mowana, July have Superman Legacy,
July twenty fifty, have Thunderbolts. So you know what, it's actually
not as bad. So I'm just saying, like if it goes to the
beginning. That's a good sign too. But it's not as bad as I
thought, because August and September really have nothing big and The Batman could be
the big like Fall movie, right, I think October is a perfect time
for Batman, and this version it does, even though it won't be on
Halloween. I think, like the last one, it has that Halloween creepy
sort of vibe. So I still think it's fine. Legacy is the one
that, again I'm not actually as worried about now I guess I thought.
I guess. There has been a couple delays, so many of these things
are spaced out, But I think Legacy Thunderbolts is what I worry about.
Two weeks after Superman. Not not great, but we'll see. Hopefully we
get this news soon and we can just start talking about the good news for
The Batman today. Casting in production, everything like that, maybe a new
suit, a post or a color scheme, you know, stuff. So
we'll see more scuttle butt as far as movies being made or not being made.
The Ray movie. So this week there was two rumors that came out
one last week and then one this week. And then there's rumors to rebot
rebroot, reboot, rebuttal those yeah, re butt, there we go the
butt almost fare the butt. One rumor was, and these are all ce
plus tier and then the people that push it back, I'd say it's higher.
No, I'd say they were ce tier, the person that pushes like
a C plus maybe B. And then Lucas Film made a statement, So
here's the trajectory. Seatier rumor Steven Knight hasn't even handed in a script yet.
They're still working on another draft. But that's not there. That's why
Ray movie was supposed to film first, no longer happening. Another Seatier rumor
backs that up, but goes further and saying Steve Knight's dropped out and the
film's gonna be delayed and definitely. And then Jamaine, you say looser or
I don't know how you say his name. He puts some report as saying,
hey, you know, and I guess it was a combined thing,
right, I guess it was. It was a combined thing of still like
still being written. I guess we had lost on those ones of what Lucasfilm
was. But he put out Jermaine put out that he had heard that seam
Night's still working on a draft and made the date, and I think Dani
Rickman put out something pretty similar at least that the draft is still being worked
on. So it's a scuttle butt of is the movie being delayed? Now
technically what you have to do, and this is what Katie from Star Wars
Alliance was pointing out, Go check out that show on our podcast network,
the Geek Cultimate Alliance network, and go check out they're doing their survey as
well our surveys in the link, So if you want to do it,
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to their Twitter or the links and their shows and it's all there and we'd
appreciate just the feedback for us and them, So technically you would. I
would say that Jermaine and Rickman definitely have more sources than the other ones,
and even this one saying Germane's saying a source from Lucasfilm right, which I
guess a lot of the sources always are. But this is him conftantly saying,
oh, I know some of Luke's films telling me this, or they're
relaying this message to me or through me. So it's so tough with Star
Wars because Katie was pointing this out, and even in my mind when the
tears are there, the tears favor the news of they're working on it and
don't worry about it, it's coming. The problem is the past, in
the past five years, yeah, five years since we got Force awakens of
the untrustworthiness of the ms or sorry, the Star Wars universe. The trustworthy
MCU happened last year and a half. We can't trust them right now.
Let's see if they can want us back here all the time. I'm not
saying anything has to be great, but let's get out of the like this
is the worst, the worst MCU stuff. You know, with Star Wars,
they have a very bad track record of announcing things way in advance,
and we've done this regular world right. So that's where it's tough. Where
I agree with Katie and I see all our points on other points too.
Oh, look at these other scoopers are much bigger. They're pointed out like
the ray films. Definitely happening maybe, uh where I am and I understand
the process right where Damon Lindoff was working on this movie. The rumor was
that he was working on a movie that was a eighty year old ray that
was played by like a Helmere and type. Training is too new, jedis
and there's you know, it is scuttle, but like he says, nothing
was ever confirmed, but there's some skull but that Hey, he wrote the
first draft and was happy to go away, and there's some that now.
He was kind of booted from the project. They didn't like his script.
He didn't like that they picked a director without him, because that was the
reports, right, it was Linda Loff is going to spearhead a Star Wars
movie, which meant he'll write. But also what he did with Watchmore,
he brought in a bunch of voices, different directors. He was the captain
of the ship, but he was the most important person of it. He
got the ship going and then gave the reins to other people or just like
multiple captains, right, that's true. I don't know whom he's a ship
pirate analogy, but I am. But that's what's sounding like he was gonna
do where he's gonna direct this and he could bring other people on, but
he's gonna spearhead it. And there's some people that say, yeah, that
was the goal, and then they kind of took the rains from him.
He leaves, Steven Knight comes on. For me, I know when people
go, oh, well, Tollywood and someone writes the script and then they
get notes and they redrafted, and then it goes through the process and maybe
they bring on another writer. I get it. I understand. You don't
need to spell that out. It's like people are acting like this is regular
film stuff. It's not. This is Star Wars that has screwed this up
multiple multiple times. And for me, what I've said is other studios can
do this, and I don't even want to see this because like MSU has
their issues and luckily no one's brought this up to me. I think I've
seen it like once we'll spring all my timeline, but the idea of Pe'll
go, oh well, Marvel tho this all the time. They rewrite and
sometimes we can ran on set. Yes, and of course yes, they're
having some issues last year and even this year to me with Echo, and
we feel that they're having some issues with the writing, but their movies were
still being made and shows were still being made, and for many years they
were successful at that. Star Wars to me, doesn't get the benefit of
the doubt with that. They don't get to be like, oh, well,
this is just like everything else in Hollywood. No, they've screwed up
so many times where it's like, no, this is just another scroup by
them. For me, it doesn't like it doesn't matter. I know the
process of like, oh, rewrites happen and notes happen. I get it,
But no, there shouldn't be any rewrites, any notes, and we
know about it. I'm fine if someone says, hey, I've heard a
rumor they're working a Ray movie, Daisy Ridley's attached. It's one Linneloff was
working on. He left Steve Knight, and maybe they want to control there.
Never get it out there, get a pop at Starvice celebration, whatever
it means. Maybe I don't care. And at the end of the day,
I guess with the general audience, it doesn't America. So if a
movie comes out, they'll just watch it. They won't know any about this
stuff, right, But Star Wars does pay attention to their online fan base
to a degree, and I I just feel like and even just like,
I don't understand how shareholders have not just reamed out more of a getting more
films out to push their parks and everything. But I don't think we should
for Star Wars until we get a couple of films under their belt. Again,
I don't think we should know about anything until they're about to go to
production. And even then it's hard to believe, because soul will happen,
right, But to me, it's just like we've heard this before where people
oh, well, yeah, writing scripts normal, but we have that with
Oh yeah, Ryan's working on the script still. Oh one day we'll get
linked back together. Oh tighter's working on the scripts. And guess what after
thor Love and Thunder, it's his next project. And guess what it's not,
Hey, the Ray movie. It's gonna be the first movie back of
these new ones. Guess what it's anymore? It's Mandalorian Grogu that was announceding
Star of Celebration. So just thinking of like already it's like this is the
first project. Well, actually it's not well, and Steve and I is
still working on another draft. Just get the shit together. It's the same
reason. It's like if those rumors were true that Linda Loff wrote that script
and it was eighty year old ray and the film was like, yeah,
we don't like this, Like what are these meetings they're having? Like what
are they fucking talking about? Like I like, well, why isn't everything
linked down the same way as like there, whether it was Wonder Woman in
nineteen eighty four or just like, oh, there's rumors that Patty was maybe
hard to work with, which could just be a narrative Star War someone's thrown
out there. Oh it's hard. It's that you know, they couldn't agree
on story aspects. Why they should have agreed on story aspects before they made
the fucking top gun, her skating around at the flight school or whatever.
Right, Like it's just one on one for business in general, But it's
one on one for like Star Wars that has had so many issues in my
opinion of like, you got to get this together, Like it's enough of
this rigamal role of an Now it's project with sexy names, whether it's stars
or actors, and then it doesn't happen. We go through a bunch of
scripts and so well, we're working on, we're working on. I have
now it's some of these things like if the sky's not falling, and I
know most scoopers have still said that's the planet's happening, but it's like I've
been given more evidence important not to happen again now and it's just you know,
shame me once, full of you, shame me twice fully, gonna
get fooled again, you know, like that's where it is. I can't
believe them until I see it, and it's an unfortunate thing. But that's
where for me again two things already on this ray film was supposed to be
filming. First since not and then okay it was supposed to you know the
actually the scripts are still being written. What so you put a gut into
my head. I will say right now, I feel like the movie is
happening. But it is a fifty one forty nine split. It is very
close. And the only reason it splits just because a few scoopers have said,
yep, I'm still hearing it to go. And here's the thing,
I don't think those scoopers are wrong. I bet they're being told that doesn't
mean by May. If we to me, if we're not filming by May,
maybe that's where the percentage flips. That's like a strike one, strike
two, strike three, you're out, you know. Uh, Mike says
Luis Film has a serious boy cried movie wolf syndrome when it comes to announcing
movies. We're trying to assume it's not gonna happen. Absolutely right, It's
just a joke, and I think we kind of all not thought. But
it was almost like the Last Gas that last Star Wars celebration, when they
announced those three movies, it was kind of like, Okay, this is
it. These have to happen, you know, And it's just like they're
doing a big role out again celebration strikes or that was for the strike,
I guess. But COVID's over. You know. TV shows are kind of
met like, let's get the film franchise going again, and here we are,
you know, so I agree it stuff. We have to believe to
see it. And these rumors already are just making me worried because other projects,
like with The Batman. The reason I'm worried about The Batman too,
is not because Oh Reason is still working on the script and they announced that
that's different, that's a sequel. Restrusted. I'm only worrying in the sense
of they're trying to create some universe where the Batman has nothing to do with
that as of right now. Right that's the head blocking. I'm worried about
The Young Avengers or War Machine, which you know I like to bug Brent
and Chris about as far as saying it's a fake movie, right. Brent
doesn't think it qualifies. I just think it does because I don't think that
movie's gonna happen for me. That's not because like an MCU track record.
That's just because we'll talk about she all going a second. There's certain projects
where you just feel like this shouldn't happen anymore. If you're trying to make
a profit with mc if you're trying to make a success, War Machines out
the way to go with lucasfilm. It's not that I don't think it started.
This film can't be propel. It's not that I don't think this is
gonna clash with some universe. It's just that we don't fucking trust them,
and they've dropped the ball way too many times for me to hear. Oh,
they're still working on the script and this is a film that's gonna be
going. Yeah, sure, jan we'll see, but I'm still gonna give
them a benefit doubt. All right, let's take our second ad break,
and then we're gonna get into some Oh no, we're not. We're gonna
get into before we do it. Let me go into s Bub's question here.
He asked the doozy if every upcoming Star Wars movie and TV show we're
about to be canceled and you can only save one, which would it be?
And then the little fucker put for a harder question challenge you say and
or two, because that would probably be it. Now, I will preference
this with like rumor Land, the only thing that probably could beat and or
two if they had publicly announced, hey, we're doing nice for a republic
something, right, So let me get Star Wars upcoming projects. So I
was gonna say, like, oh, is this all them here? Or
is this just the show? Oh my god, that's so scary when you
click on it, there's so many like until Sean Levy the Rain movie tells
the Jedi. Okay, so let's animated stuff. I'll kick because I love
the animated stuff. No, okay, well I don't love the animated stuff,
but it's like I got my fill, Like if I lose it,
I got a good portion stars like Clone Wars, Rebels, I can catch
up on bad Batch, Star Wars, Fucking Visions, Tales, the Jedi,
lots of good stuff. So animated stuff, boot all that Rogue Squadron
that was already dead, so the man overs stuff. I would kick because
I'm make I'm the reason I'm most excited about that is one just to get
a Star Wars movie. So it's just kind of like if you're single and
you hand that sex in a while, and maybe you don't get the best
chemistry of this person, and maybe you're not the most attractive to but you're
like, you know what, ReVibe enough. This is again, get the
job done. It's been a couple of months. Let's pony up. That's
what the flony and Favral movies are for me, where it's just like,
yeah, I haven't been laying a bit. Let's uh, let's do this.
I'll take any Star Wars movie right now. I'm begging you give me
a star Wars movie. I'm done with the Disney Plus stuff for the most
part, and that's where almost all of them, and that's where. So
for the Disney Plus, I guess we go that rail. As far as
the movies, I take out Felony and Favrel's movie because I'm I'm more excited
by them on a business point of view than being excited for the movies.
I don't know if I need Star Wars Avengers. I don't know if I
need Mandalor and Grogus to take those out. Same thing for shows season four,
Man do kick that? Asoka season two, I am interested in,
but I like, I'm interested, but I have to kick it that.
That's when I would kick because I did really enjoy it. There was some
episodes that were great, but there were some lulls in there, so I
would kick that. Let's see, I'll go down keep fighting that one's dead.
Uh No, Skeleton Crew. Yeah, like the pitch so far it
seems fine, but I'm not like. Maybe ask me after a trailer the
Johnson Trilogy. No, you could kick that. A Droid story. You
could kick that My New Republic. That's that already. Sean Levy and Taikawa
tit. You could kick both of those. I'd have to hear what the
projects were first, just a pitch, and then maybe I'd change my mind.
Like if Sean Lean's like, yeah, I'm doing that Kylo ren Ben
solo movie, or I'm doing Night for a Puck. Sure, but again
I have to no. So just based on their accalent. I like Sean
Levy, I like Taika. I think Taika would be best, especially for
his career right now, to focus on nonstars film stuff, like he just
made fucking Jojo Rabbit a few years ago, and I'm gonna see next gol
Wins a couple of days from now. My logan, my second daughter is
sick and she's gonna be home with me the whole week. She's been poor
girl. She threw up and pooped her pants the same time. I felt
so bad. It was just like, oh, man, like that just
sucks. She has the fever of flu right now, so it's just like
just just a bummer. So I'm watching Spy Kids and fucking they love the
Woody wood Pecker movies, so oh God shoot me. But she's sick.
I let her watch whatever. I try to get Shrek in there, but
she did agree tomorrow to watch some more Disney Dad stuff that I like,
so I'm like cool or anything, just something. We did watch Push some
Boots today and that was like thumbs up, still great, So that stuff
i'd have to kick. I like Sean Leevy, but I don't love them
that much. And Tyker should focus on original adapted book stuff. Lando whatever
that is, you can kick it. I got solo. I could watch
that. So really all it comes down to is three. It's the James
Mangold project, the Acolyte project, and the Ray Movie Project. Instagram might
brings up Acolyte because it looks like a fresh start New Characters is no homework.
Yes, so here's the thing. This is like a cheat right if
act like could be close, just a little bit close to the quality of
and or it would be act like because I am, like Mike said,
new era new stares. I want them to go back. I want them
And I don't think future was the issue either. To me. It's like
if we get new movies about that time, like, do what they're doing
now, right, I don't want like, oh, let's just jump ten
thousand in the future. It's like that's where I did agree or like,
if that was an issue Starts had with Lindelov's script of like why is Ray
eighty, I'd have that too. I'd be like, first of all,
I wouldn't have pay them to write it, but I would be like,
no, we want to use Daisy Ridley, like write it as a thirty
ye old woman or be gone, you know, like keep Ridley around people
like her. For the most part, it is a riskier movie to do
because not everyone loves the sequels, and there are a group of people that
might be meh, I don't know miss episode ten. I know it's episode
ten, but like, uh do we need this? So it's tough.
I like the Mangled One. Here's where I am on quality. I would
pick them Mangled one because I still really enjoyed Indy five, love Logan,
love a lot of other things he's done. Quality why I said pick that.
But the Pitch I don't care about it. I don't want a first
Jedi movie. I think that could hurt Star Wars lower. So that's where
it's say, that's a potential kick the act. Like pitch is great because,
like we said, new characters, new era, a high republic phanom
Menace, you know, but the quality I don't know if it's gonna be
there. And then Ray that has the pitch I don't know if it is
a quality because the director who knows, But that one has like the heart
so it's like quality Mangold Donald the Jedi heart pick because I love you know,
I love the Ray and Kylo Dynamic. I end up loving Rainier than
that franchise, so I put on my top ten characters. Loved Daisy Ridley
thought she did great in that role. So the heart pick is the Ray
movie. And then the pitch pick is act like what do I do?
I really don't know, so it's like what do I get? Like I
think for me, I would just still have to pick the Ray movie just
because it's going forward and I want the idea of these rumors of her action
starting a new Jedi Council getting a Jedi Order, because we would get that
with the Acolyte, but we know how that's gonna end, right. This
would be, Hey, We're going to a new Jedi Order, and fuck
where could we go? This could create a whole bunch of new spinoffs and
stuff like that. Mangle I think is still could be the best project if
anyone happens. But again, it's just like I don't have much interest in
the first Jedi. I know some people do. That's not my bag,
baby. So yeah, let's take our second at break and then we're gonna
get in some Marvel news and so we'll be right back. And we are
back. So let me pull the topics here. She Hulk season two not
happening, which ties into what I was talking about with Brendan Chris as far
as the War Machine being a fake movie. Tatiana and Maceloni. Now this
could be joking. She was at the MS. He asked what she hulks.
Oh, no, I'm paraphrasing, but pretty much no. No,
we broke the budget. They haven't asked us back. I think they said
no, thank you. I hit on a few things she actually did say,
but I think it was word differently. Now you could just it could
be tongue in cheek. It could because of expensive show. But I think
it is a they haven't got a call like I do. Think this is
someone revealing the truth in like a jokey way. She still got to do
it. She still will be around the same way as I think she will
be around at least because like the same way as like Incredible Hulk, the
movie did not do well, but Hulk was still part of the Vengers around
a bunch, right, And that's the question of do we see her again?
I think we will. I don't think she's gone forever, but I
do think it's like a potential small rule. I don't know if she's an
Avenger or not. Again, I would very much like to know who the
fuck the Avengers are, but we will not know for a while. Maybe
they're gonna keep a secret to the goddamn first trailer. I don't know.
Of course, we got the set picture, so that won't happen. But
I think this is where we've seen if this is true, and let's just
go with this, right, because there were reports that it was happening,
but if you got her saying it's probably not what's happening. And that's where
I was talked about this on Vodka stream last week, where I know it
was Andy he you know, and I like Andy Lott. He's a good
guy, and uh, and I get why, especially you know, he
talks about for multiple reasons on Vodka Stream, why he fights for diverse films
like blue Beetle and you know, Miss Marvel and stuff. And I can't
remember he said some comment of like because I think I was talking about thor
because you know, Lotpillon Stream don't like thor Love and Thunder. And I
was like, okay, what do you make thor five or anything Captain Marvel
adjacent, whether that be Miss Marvel Monica. And it's like whatever you think,
you may love Kamala Khan, but like you go with Thor five because
we just looked at it, right, seven hundred and sixty million, that's
like not a sure guarantee bet, but much better than Miss Marvel and Captain
Marvel if And this is why I'm talking about this, right, So let's
go with the opinion that this is could put this is a true story that
hey no, no, she talk two. Then I do start to worry
because a lot of those reports when we heard them in the earlier year,
when they were like CEC plus Scoopers, but it was like, oh,
they're planning to do Miss Marvel season two. She Halks season two and Moonnight
season two are a project of Moonnight, And if she Hulk is down off
the tables, to me, that could be a lot of those things off
the tables, And that's where for me it's like, what are those shows
like we talked about that could come back that are maybe gone now? Moonnight
I think is best to do kind of how I've pitched a ghostwriter do a
Hulk scenario with them now. I'd love season two. I'd love to get
more with Jake Lockley. I didn't. That's definitely one of my more disappointments.
Fuck, it just sucks that I have a Moonnight in the MCU and
I'm just so like man, you know, like I sometimes forget it exists.
And it was my fucking pick too, Like Auscar Isaac was like the
guy I said. It was perfect for the role, and there's some episodes
things in there that are great for me. It's just so mad and they
missed a lot of the they missed the they missed the target on a lot
of the things that make Moon great. I think a lot of people grieve
me on that one. And that's where I think that because it almost was
like a Marvel Spotlight where you could watch it by itself. I think you
could just forget about the character for a while, wait till you do Minion
of Night Suns or something like that. Bring them there. I don't need
them on the Avengers. I feel like the only reason he'd be on the
Avengers is like why Jay Law was such a big roles mystique because it's Auscryes
like, which I do get, but like, I don't think that's a
fit right now, saving for something else or don't return to him, which
is sad for me, But put him on if put him some Ani made
stuff. So I think Moonnight just because that reason could very much happen Miss
Marvel. It's tough now with Miss Marvel. I don't know what the budget
was. She all got a budget of two hundred and twenty five million reported,
which means it could be more. Oh that's why it's like, what
profit were you expecting to get? And that's what we've seen with these shows,
right, They've all gone down as far as the ratings, whether it's
Somba or whether it's actually Disney reporting them same way. Disney like report the
numbers for the first few days of Loki and that was lower than Mandal or
lower than Loki season one, right, So like the numbers are going down,
people are caring less and less about these Superhero projects. So that's where
to me that that money is not in Disney Plus anymore. We've talked about
this on Marvel Alliance. I think Brenton Chris, you know, just said
the Peco they just reviewed it. Go check out their review because they have
much more positive one than ours. Unfortunately, unfortunately we didn't like it.
Not saying that they liked it. Those sons a bitch, just how could
they like them aut No, I'm just saying unfortunately, I think we all
would have preferred us to really enjoy it, and I don't think any of
us did. But I think Disney Plus shows are going to go that way
more where it's echo where I don't think that was a large budget. I
think that might be part of the reason why they made Netflix Cannon as well,
which Vincent din Offer just said, like that was a recent thing that
happened after the overhaul, that it wasn't gonna be Canon, but they decided
to change it up. That could be a way where you bring in more
stuff from those shows to make more street level, cheaper shows. You know,
because right now we really let's take a look, and I might have
to ask this, I might have to say this for marmal Alliance too,
Disney, Let's see mc TV shows because other than not talk about the animed
stuff, cause anime stuff, that's easier to talk easier budget wise. Right,
for the most part, there's not really any shows that are cooking right
now that we know about. Right. The shows that were cooking were rumored
or delayed, so you got fuck just go down there. Here we go.
So the rumor like a Moon Night season two, Miss Marble season two,
show season two, she All season two, let's say that's off the
books. I think Moon Night season two could be off the books Miss Marveled.
That's what my point is, getting get too is And the budget is
cheaper, which I don't think there was any big stars in there. And
the effects definitely looked a little cheap or rushed, and they were probably did
with those affect ours. Oh man, did I okay? Good? I
just gotta pluck at my laptop se and it's almost dying to me. If
it's cheap, if it's like the Netflix Echo route, maybe a little higher
than you could do Miss Marble season two, and that's where yeah, season
one lowest rated Disney Plus show, The Marvel's Movie Lowe's box office for our
Marvel film, right, if not at second lowest, you can't really justify
if it's a bigger movie to do or if it's a bigger budget sorry to
do Miss Marvel season two. You can't throw in projects like Hulk put her
around. Don't get rid of o Kamal Khan. I'm on is one of
the best things that's happened to them. So especially in this phase when they
need some wins, you need to keep her around. But as a season
two, if it's like more expensive, no Phase five, We're not gonna
get a secret invasion. Loki seems to be done. So here's the thing.
Okay, so there is one other one that is start a film a
couple of weeks ago, right, and I think it's at the smaller route.
So again take out the animated stuff. We have Ironheart and Agatha,
which were what I was talking about in Marble Alliance or I trailed off.
We talk about how we all agree with this era, with the Phase four
and a little bit of Phase five. There are shows and projects that got
greenlit that wouldn't get green light now, you know, and even in the
past when it got green light, but they came off the height of top
shit taking down an Avatar endgame and then No Way Home and having some big
hits even Invade even twenty twenty two. Right now they're on the backstep.
Now, they've had some flops. They've had they're in the red for just
certain projects. That's where you gotta go, Okay, we gotta be more
picky. So that's where Ironheart and Agatha I think those are just their one
off, one and done. Maybe'll see those characters again in the future,
who knows. But you don't get other seasons. Daredevil that's being reworked,
and I think that it will be still on the cheaper side. Bed's being
reworked. The only one that's filming and we for sure know about is wonder
Man. Obviously there was war Machine that got moved into a movie, but
I just still don't think. I just don't see a profit in that unless
there is an ace in the hole, unless there's a massive change, unless
there's a and guess who's coming back, Rubber, Oh my god, that's
rubber, Like no, no, no, like, That's the only way
I see a war Machine happening, unless it's a very reduced budget too.
That's always if it's like one hundred, maybe one hundred and fifty, maybe
even one hundred and fifty. To me, he's pushing it because I could
see, like, let's see what the let me just see what the Marvels
box office right now, the Marvels box office? Do Do Do? Do
Do? Do? Three's company too great show? Right, Okay, Marble's
found box office right now? Look at that two six In my opinion,
the Marvels, which has pre Larson, who to me is bigger start than
Dawn Chetld like kind of overall, uh, and then you have all these
other characters who got Nick Fury and as a sequel to the billion dollar film,
the biggest female superho film all time, kept Marvel that bombed. It
made eight hundred million less than the than Captain Marvel. You're telling me that
war machine, which I don't think has the same backing and resume that those
people do, and especially to me coming from the lowest potentially if they stick
with that whole scrawl, shit, even if that movie is one hundred and
fifty, it would not break even. Even if it was a hundred,
it would just probably just break even, maybe lose money. You can't tell
me that's happening, and I think that was smart, And if it is
happening, then yeah, they were smart to make it a movie instead of
a show because maybe make more of a profit. But wonder man, that
did start film a couple of weeks ago, and from the rumor plot of
it, it sounds pretty low key like there won't be much of a big
budget to it, probably just the actors in some set, you know,
production pay of the crew. I'm underplaying it, of course, but it
doesn't sound like this is gonna be a two hundred and twenty five million show.
Right. So after that, there's a rumor of the Nova show in
development. No, that's not gonna happen. Not a TV not a Disney
Plus show. You can't make that cheap. And then Vision Quest. I
don't know what visions effects costs. I don't know what Paul Benny coss,
but I don't know how much time and resources it would cost. I think
if that's not out of the realm of possibility, like being just super expensive,
I could see that because that's just a bunch of other like Vision as
long as it's not him stopping a world ending threat, that's a possibility,
but really we don't have that far out where I feel like, for a
while, we are always knowing two years in a mant so what we were
getting right now, we just know just this year because you can say dared
evil, but we don't got a date, like it's hopefully next year and
I think it will be, but we don't sell have a date, right.
So that's where it's like a lot of these shows we've seen that they're
gonna pull back on projects in general, and I think that's the shows are
really really gonna get hurt. And that's where I think it's gonna fuck them
a little bit. And that's where I am in the camp where I do
think they need to reboot after Secret Wars because those shows also cause them to
create too many characters. Because let's say, take out the shows, right,
So let's see here, Okay, So take out Hawkeye, you don't
get Kate Bishop. Take a moon Night, you don't get Moonnight. Take
out Miss Marvel, you don't get Miss Marvel. Take out Cheahawk, you
don't get chea Huk. Take out See your Invasion, you don't get Guya.
I'll just say guy, But that's about it. Take out Echo,
you don't get Echo, and even Hawkey, I guess you don't get that,
so Echo right there? Okay, even Wana Vision you don't get Agatha.
And that's about it because Ironheart you would have got with a black panther.
So other than the characters like Loki and stuff, that was about seven
characters I listed that came directly from the TV shows, right, and that
is a part of a problem where we, you know, always say here,
who are they? Venger just but also everyone's problem. My problem was
never I think people misconstrued their issue. I'm not trying to speak for people,
but the idea of where is the MC going. They're clearly going to
the multiverse, secret Wars war like they lay it out, whether you don't
like it or just don't understand it. The first episode of Loki is like,
look at this multiverse war. It would suck if that happen again.
A It's like I was winking earlier in this cast talking about a certain topic
about making a certain fan film that would be a film now if public domain
happens, which it sounds like it is. It's me just laying out,
like, hey, what I would like to do if the stars aligned right,
say in the air. It's like, look at this cheat, this
is where we're going. Kang in the finale says see you real soon.
Oh, by the way, there's thousands of me and they're gonna come get
you. And Ione's like, where is the cinematic universe going? I don't
understand, ay a fucking yai. But there were points of and I'm not
with the whole Eternals, like where's the statue? Why is it not?
Why is the sky? They haven't answered that? Well, couldn't you also
just say that they might answer that in Eternals two. We haven't got that,
and we are getting that answer it's supposedly being Cat four. But still
that's not the stuff for me. It is the big time stuff, like,
yeah, Avengers, that's a pretty big deal. Where have they been?
Who are they when we get adventures? What's the lineup? Right?
I know people might argue, well, with Avengers one, we didn't really
know the lineup officially. We knew there was films, we didn't know the
official lineup. Yeah, sure, true, But like that's Phase fucking one.
We're Phase five. They know better, we know better, smart enough.
But the other problem that I have. My biggest thing is, yeah,
who are the Avengers? And the other thing that a lot of people
were bringing up which I didn't have any sho with in Phase four. But
as we went on and I saw more projects, I do now, where
are all these characters? Disney Plus made too many shows and too many issues
and even the extended films right there, there's too many characters. Now we
haven't seen sung cheap, we have seen eternals. I think that, like
I said, I bring this a whole time. There's like nineteen projects since
Captain America has become Sam Wilson. That is not right. He is Captain
America. He should be all over the fucking place. He's the leader.
We saw We fucking saw a cat like Chris Evans like a year after and
thord Ark World like, even though it was like a fun cameo, still
we still saw him. And then we got that movie not far after the
Mena's too like the Disney Plus shows the same thing when we're gonna see ya
Ya's wonder Man, right, like, they create too much. And that's
where I almost would be more fine with if they were too And that's why
I don't like it being a Cliffhanger, but with an even echo, but
echo Moon if they were say, hey, we're gonna do some stuff and
this is not going to connect. I know you want everything to connect,
but this is just gonna be a one off. Uh do that? You
know? Half some like Moonnight the comic book when it came back the Jeff
Lemir run, it wasn't this big connecting crossover one. It was the solo
story do that people. Of course there were some connections, but people fell
in love with the Netflix stuff because of those characters, not because oh I
can't wait to see the Avengers. That was, of course, like a
cool bonus of it happened. But as long as the shows are somewhat of
quality and have something unique about them or something that will pull people in,
you got it made. So that's where I think you'll see less things,
so we'll see super Mike says, it's missing the fun and seeing all the
characters get together, form friendships, bonds, and that was the Avenger movies.
That's what the Avenger movies brought absolutely, And that's where for me it's
like it's it's tough, right because we kind of know Secret Wars is probably
going to be you know a lot of returning people. Hugh jack Manitoban Andrew.
I'm not saying no to that, Like I'm not like, are we
sacrificing that? Sure, but it's something we've talked about one hundred times down.
I'll just say it for anyone that's new, they should have done an
Avengers film that was a lokey threat. Not Loki, but Masters of Evil
Boom, an Alltron type of person, come back annihilis. So they just
beat them, beat them off, They beat them, and off their way
they go, and then here we go. We're all together the same way
as we talked about before. I brought this up on I bring this up
on all the time because that's the I think I brought up on Voku String
because someone said something, and here I bring up all the time. Where
Avengers Phase one there were little connections, but other than Iron two, which
did have a lot of like alluding to stuff, it was just there's Thor's
hammering. Any credit scene, there's Captain America's shield and oh he gets an
any credit trailer, Oh there's Iron an incredible hulk. Iron two definitely was
the extent of that, but even then it wasn't. I don't think it
was as bad as now where it just feels like, okay, there is
so much how does this all connect? That was literally just hey, Loki
came to Earth and for some reason they all got um tangled. Now I
think they wanted maybe that's their idea to do that with the Avengers, and
I'm down with that. Right, Let's say, Okay, it is the
Masters of Emo Barrions Emos leading a team and they connect Carol, Sam,
you know whatever, Scott Lang or whatever the reason is. But it's weird
for the team to connect to be Kang, which is to me, that's
where I missed. We've always heard these rumored plots, but that's where I
worry that like the Avengers film, the Secret Wars or sorry, King Dynasty
was gonna be like in Finny Warren Endgame, where okay, it's our interesting,
but it's it's really like Msue the movie, right, And I feel
like they feel like, well, now, the Avengers always has to be
Msue the movie. We gotta have all these characters and that's not the case.
We should have found something like and that was the fun of the Connected
Universe stuff to me was not The lore was not the Easter eggs. It's
not that it was like, oh cool, these characters connect all that.
The other stuff is bonus and it's great, right, it's fantastic when the
well O Machine, we loved everything. I'll take it all. But at
the end of the day, it was the party scene in Age of All
Tron where they're getting drunk trying to pick up Thorpe's hammer. You know,
it's Sharma. It's when they're at Avengers Compound endgame when they fucking lost and
it's like they have all these connections and what do they do? And I
lost the kid and wear's Pepper. It's five years later when Tony Stark says,
hey, I don't want to talk shop, but you can stay for
dinner. I have my ending here, cap I made my second chance,
Like we're not gonna get that with these And I think they almost felt like,
because these characters were already in the MCU, well, we don't got
to get them together. They can just be boom king donasty and here's the
Avengers and maybe there could have maybe it will open up and just say,
hey, by the way, for the past five years, we've been the
Avengers and I guess, but it just feels so empty and hollow, which
a lot of things have felt in Phase five. I push back in Phase
four. I had a lot of fun on Fase four. That's I probably
might say my second favorite Face. It's tough. Revisiting Face one has made
me really enjoy some of that stuff again, So it's a toss up.
Their Pace two is definitely bottom for me, but oh no sorry, Phase
five is fucking foh whoa bottom? So what does that say for these other
shows? I think it's like those season twos are dead. I think lots
of development. Like Vision Quest, they will wave them in and I think
will be more a once a year sort of thing. Obviously, iron Heart
and Agatha are in the can. The can are in the can, so
maybe like you get Agatha, maybe next year you get like iron Heart and
Daredevil, and then you get like wonder Man, right, the animated fair
To me, I'm still fine with that as long as they see enough of
return investment. It's never gonna blow up unless they make like a Pixar like
movie. But for me, it's like that's the stuff where I really enjoy.
I know some people, you know, like Brent always like you prefer
live action animated. And I'm not saying they have to make the canon stuff
animated, but like, if you got to save your budget, make stuff
like Friendlies, Neighborhood Spider Man, make Mardels on bombies, make you know
more, what ifs I may you know, just go buck wild on that
stuff. Give me a Howard the Duck show, you know like that.
That's where it's like you can go back to just maybe doing one show and
then a couple of movies. It's and I hope that's what they're going to.
So we will see. Let's take probably our last ad break and then
we'll be right back with some trailers and some other movie news like Fast and
Furious and everything. So we'll be right back and we are back. Let
me just take a little sip warrior. Ah. Oh, so what was
the news I had penciled in here? Both Maddie's questions are here. Says
his thoughts on the Abagail trailer, which we will talk about, and then
thoughts on David S. Samberg directing until dawn daptions will get there and then
Fast Level So yeah, until dawn. Uh So they announced that today I'm
a big fan that it's a play station four exclusive. It was a game.
I can't remember the company, but they make a bunch of choose your
own adventure horror stuff. I heard that Camp Summer game they made was fucking
like really fun. I never got around to playing, and I have to.
I can't even remember what it is, but yeah, I really really
enjoyed until Dawn. Uh it's a fun choose your own adventure horror game,
right, Hayne Panteers in it, Rammy Mack. I think there's another actor
in there, but I enjoy those as well. And they today announced that
David Sandberg is working an adaptation of that. So Maddie asked my thoughts.
It's interesting because it's like always what we talk about Night's Over Republic, right
of Like there's multiple endings, so what do you do one. I think
it's it's a good idea because I think it'll they'll make it for cheap.
It's a brand name, and even if you pick one of the story pass
I think the characters, the villain, the mystery, there's enough good stuff
there that even if it's like, hey, we're gonna pick path a,
sure make that movie great, you know, like that I think I liked
until some of the fun like loss of fun was the choose your own venture
thing, But even just the core content I think works, So that's good.
So yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do. If it's gonna
be like Clue or you get multiple endings. I know for years people have
always like, I think there was some movie that was announced that was gonna
do it. And I can't remember if they did it and it just came
out to no fan for no fanfare, or if they never got around to.
But I thought there was some movie that was gonna try some sort of
You'd be in the theater, you'd have your phones or an iPad or something,
and then a decision would come up, you'd all vote, and then
whatever the percentage was, you get that. I think that would be cool
because they know some people might be like, ah, your fucking phones that
got to the movie theater. No, Like Like to me, that's a
specific experience for that, right, It's like that's the time I was like,
Yeah, have your phones out or have a tablet out, which will
provide you and to choose your choose your own adventure sort of deal. Right,
that would be kind of definitely more like a roller coaster sort of ride.
I'm sure Martin sec would love that. But do I think that's happening.
No, Probably just an adaption, So I guess it will be fun
because it is an adaption where you could have liked the game and played it
many times and you won't know what they'll go with the story wise, right,
they might just look at this and go, hey, this one made
the most sense, Let's do this route, and yeah, so I'm excited
for it. I think they should do more. I think both PlayStation and
Xbox should go into their backlog and just let people make movies, tv shows,
even they're cheaper, smaller budgets not don't just pimp them out and just
like make anything like public domain. No like, still make sure there's some
could quality control there. But I feel like they should be taking meetings for
all these type of things, right because maybe people say, oh, video
games movies are the next boom. Maybe I love that because I also like
video games, so I'd have no issue with video games. The movies boomed
up, right, So Super Mario was the second biggest movie last year,
but that's also Mario, so we'll see fast eleven. It came out this
week. There's wembre going around that it was it's gonna go back to a
smaller budget, meaning a two hundred dollars budget, and it said it was
going to go back to its roots and maybe focused on one heist, one
race sort of scenario. I really don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Uh, Like, there's a lot going on there right I'm somebody that I
agreed with many people that it has jumped the shark. I think it jumped
the shark. I think nine was the official. I think eight was close,
but I like still gave it a pass, but it jumped the shark
for me, and nine then ten like to me. And that's where it's
like, there's a point where there's having the the over the top fun or
the so bad it's good, but it was getting the point where it's it's
just almost too much, right, It's like a parody of it, and
you don't there's a fine line between dumb fun and parody, and I think
Fast and Furious was reaching the parody line unfortunately. But that's the rumor going
around right now that they want to do a smaller one and I don't know
how I feel about that. If it's the last I guess I get it.
Go back to your roots. But for me, I said this where
I did not care for. Not not that I didn't care for, but
I'm not in this aspect. I'm a chismo guy and I like drinking beers,
and I like building stuff, and I love getting my hands dirty.
I love some yard work. I love cars. Oh, I can name
this twenty facts about this car and I'll look at the rim. No,
I don't give a fuck about cars. I don't try, but I don't
like. There's a few cars in this world that I really enjoy. And
it's just like by the visual wise, right, So when it was just
street racing and babes and like like like thongs up to the Ying Yang and
everything and like we're being cool and broie and we're all muscly, for me,
it's like I didn't care about any of that. I got in because
the rock was in there. And then I heard it was more like an
action packed franchise. So I didn't start watching till Fast six and then I
caught up. I met Emily. She was a big fan. I thought,
oh, yeah, sure I watch these, and then I preferred that
the Golden Era. For me, what I like is five to seven.
I think that's the right amount of there's definitely some over the top, but
it's like definitely hits the perfect line of character building, enough reality and then
really cheesy fun and now there's too much of it, and then the past
there wasn't enough of it. So for me, it's one of these things
where I don't like hearing that i'd be fun with, like, hey,
we want to still make this big, which two hundred million is still big,
but we want to make this big, but do bring it back to
reality. But sure, that works for me. But the idea of like
going back to the first one, I think we're too far gone. I
think for a finale that doesn't make sense. I think that would make sense
if you were to end it and then reboot it years later, or it's
a continuation of like Dom Sun and you do a smaller version. Sure,
but now, like the last movie's cliffanger was them driving off a dam while
everything was exploding, and does like Dom make it after this nuclear explosion pretty
much right? And it was so far and there's submarine suppies. I just
don't think you can go back. Really, I guess the comparison you could
make to me is Logan, where you know X Men got very big time
travel saving the world. But then Logan's just a very personal story you could
I don't trust Vin and the crew to do that. I think you do
go out with a bang, or you do the best big blockbuster you can
with two hundred million, Maybe cut out some of the cast, maybe small
roles. May they get killed off right away, and you send out of
the bang, and then you wait, I think it had You can see
by the box office it's losing its momentum. You can see by just like
story, they're spreading thin and even real life stuff. I don't know about
that Vin stuff. That's you know, you gotta wait till if there's a
court case and everything. But if any of that becomes true, that becomes
a big time hassle and in a business sense, not good situation to deal
with. I just think it's time to put it out to pass or the
Fast and Furious franchise. I'm not saying never come back. I'm not even
saying spin offs re elements of that world because Hobbes or Hobbs and shaw I
would be fine with the do just make sure you keep that budget relatively,
you know, proportionate. I just think that it's it's time and about I
maybe that's what they feel like, Okay, it's time to end it.
Let's let's go back to roots. I just don't know how I'll be,
how invested I will really be, because I feel like, unfortunately with the
characters dying and then coming back in some of the logic jumps they've done,
I've lost that the real care I have for these characters. You know,
we talked about this before with even some of the stuff with Jason Statham and
them with the Han stuff, and then they brought hand back to so state
them didn't have to appear like a bad guy. Like, there's just so
much stuff that I felt like they really lost the characters. And maybe if
it was after seven, then sure, but we're not. We we got
all the stuff we did, so yeah, we'll see. I just don't
I think it's too late to go back in this sense. But maybe this
is just a scuttle butt report because it's just a Jeff Snyder and he's not
like an any plus guy and stuff. So yeah, what was I gonna
go to next? Yeah, we'll start with what Maddie asked me here for,
uh, the Abigail trailer. So yeah, I'm so we I didn't
know about this, Like I think we found it all like a movie pre
you when we It hasn't come out yet, so the movie draft you can
get it with the Patriots. Patrons got that early. Lots of other stuff.
Patrons. If you get that, you're always getting stuff weeks early,
sometimes a year early. You know, it depends what it is. You'll
begin the X Men retrospective ending early lots of good stuff. Excuse me.
So we had heard this pitch of a bunch of people kidnap a little girl
and she turns out to be a vampire and I'm not sure if it's a
vampire Dracula's daughter. But that's the pitch, and that's the trailer. This
looks like tons of fun. Now I will say, like, I'm not
trying to be like, you know, like uh pretentious and be like,
well, what is it to your Like, it's cool, but what is
like how will I be emotionally involved? It was just a little thing of
they pretty much establish all these people are bad people. They're kidnapping this little
girl. To get a bunch of money. Right, So the idea is
she's Rakola and she's gonna hunt them down, and she's like a vampire daughter
and she's gonna hunt them all down and kill them. I think it could
be very fun. And that's where I'm curious. What's gonna go happen.
I just don't know, Like, like, at least it had some sort
of trying to be the meg sort of vibes, had a lot of ready
or not vibes, which the this is radio silence, I guess that's what
they're called. They directed that, but just the color scheme, the jokey,
the talking back and forth, this felt like if we're gonna do ready
or not, but from the bad guy's perspective, which is interesting. So
I'm not saying like I'm not poopooing the idea. One of my favorite movies
is American Psycho. I'm not saying, oh, you can have a bad
like a film about a bad person, but for me, American Psycho character
study, this looks like a kind of a slash right a monster movie.
So in a sense where all these people are bad, it's it's almost like
the main character should be Abigail, and you could still do all that fucking
weird stuff if they're trying to make it like Megan, they could do all
that weird stuff. But we still had a little girl and her adoptive mom,
AUNTI or whatever as our main characters, and you're rooting for them to
get killed by the doll. Right with this, it's like our main character
is Maria Bariso, I forgot her fucking last name, but the girl from
Screaming got let go. She's the main character and seems like she's a criminal,
along with a bunch of other great actors, Dan Stevens, Angus McLeod,
Catherine new to A hopefully she redeems herself here. Stevens looks fucking great
in this. He's always great, one of the most underrated actors out there.
But if the main characters are all the bad guys trying to kill little
girl, even if it's a vampire girl like a slasher, you're kind of
rooting for people, right, So that's it's like, how am I is
a movie? Just I'm just sitting around cheering in them, like cheering them
getting killed. And maybe it is, and maybe that's awesome. I'm not
saying that's the wrong thing. It just came to my mind where it's like,
that's interesting. But the concept I love. I think it's a cool
thing. There are lots of fun imagery. There's lots of like just cool
moments, her dancing with that ball that was headless for saying she likes to
play other food. I hope that the kills are really good, Like to
me, the kill's got to really deliverate, like oh or that, like
that stand up and clap like That's my problem with Thanksgiving where they had some
of those kills, but they almost like made them too quick and it was
weird because it was radar. So I feel like with Abigail, they should
go full out on this. So I really liked the trailer. I think
I'll see this in the theaters. I'm I like the scream movies that they
did, barring the third act of Scream six because that was a fucking earth
a scream. It was Scream six. Yeah, that was to me a
disaster, So third acting not so much. Ready or Not I love.
I think Ready or Not I probably love more than those two other screen movies.
I have to think about that, because Scream five was quite good,
but uh yeah, interesting concepts. So I'll be there to support this one,
looking very forward to it. Just had that curiosity. So next was
what were the two trailers? Spaceman with Adam Sandler. So this is the
one where I guess he's on some sort of mission. He's up there for
six months, he's feeling lonely, getting depressed. And we didn't know this.
We had heard Paul Dwel's voice, at least I didn't know this.
All of a sudden, this big spider comes out and it's voice by Paul
Dano and he's just talking about he wants to help Adam Sandler. And it
looks like a very I'm not gonna say Terrence Mallet because that's putting something on
it, but a very kind of reflective movie. It reminds me of a
movie that I like, and that kind of inspired Adrenochrome in a way some
aspects where it felt like The Gray, where there is a situation at hand,
but there's gonna be some flashbacks to the past and what this character is
dealing with mentally, and it's this thing of what is real what's not?
I don't know. They show Carry Mulligan, they show her pregnant. I
don't know if she's alive. It could be a situation many where she's alive
and pregnant. She's alive and had the kid pregnant, she died and the
kids alive. She was alive and the baby and start of the birth,
they're both dead, Like I get you, something like that. Even the
spider says something to the lot like the effect of like you don't even know
what's real. This fucking spider could not be real. The visuals were stunning,
like it could be stunning. Could also some bad CGI though, but
I meant like some of just the ideas, the colors going on. I
like that. We'll see when they're actually fully motioned the scene. But I
like this. Adam Sandler, I don't know if he's like one of the
best remack actors, but I think you I could make an argument if he
did more love. Everyone knows I love on cut jams. That's my fair.
Adam sander Roll, I always shot a rain over me. That's a
fucking great movie. He got the goods and he can do that. So
I'm looking really forward to this. This is March first. I don't know
if it was gonna be like a Golden Geek's Top ten film. But I'm
just expecting a good kind of character journey. This looks like I like movies
that have that vibe of a character alone or just really focusing on the main
character, like something like Shame where or American Psycho where they're not alone,
but it's solely focused on them. They're almost in every single scene. And
even if it's a little trippy, great, that's that's a Travis genre.
So I think this is that I could end up as long as it's not
complete dog shit or has a bad third act like Scream six. This is
one that I think is gonna be I'm gonna enjoy a lot more than other
people, especially even if it's like a slow, melancholy tip vibe. So
and then finally I had to put this in here because I appreciate it.
I popped in the discord. No one really cared about it, But I'm
making you talk about what we're talking about now because it's my show. It
is this is Me now, a love story. This is some sort of
it looked it's made to be looked like a movie trailer, but then it
also looks like there's musical aspects. But then the trailer it says it's like
a movie slash cinematic slash musical slash event experience, and everyone, if you
don't know what I'm talking about, you need to watch this trailer. Even
if you're on the discord you went by, Oh whatever, watch it.
It's Jlo and someone described the best way. It's like Jlo decided to go
make Cloud Atlas for our music video. It's something we don't know much.
But it's like they show a bunch of sci fi stuff. We don't know
if that's their head, that's the actual plot. We don't know what's going
on. It shows that she's a sex addict. They show one point she
gets on a car accident. I think that's the love of life Ben Affleck
and he's gonna dine in that car accident and he's in this. It's a
big cast. It's like her, Ah, shit, did I steal the
trailer up? I don't know if I do. I try to keep it
up for the actors. But a bunch of names in there, and so
it looks like it's gonna because it's sad musical, but I think it's going
to be like a like I can't remember Michael Jackson had a special like this.
As I remember, he was in a house. It looked kind of
creepy and it'd be like, there's a story, but it would break into
like a music video and then back to the story. I think it's gonna
be that, but just a bit more elevated. Some of the cinematography here
look great, so the visuals look great. It's gonna be on Prime in
February. I can't fucking wait. I'm not like a massive j LO fan.
I like, of course Janney from the block. My favor is let's
get loud. I like Jennifer Lopez, but I'm not like, oh,
Dynasty or music. But this gave me vibes of him where I as an
artist respected and she stepped up in my books. Big time was Beyonce when
we went to go see Lemonade tour and I liked the I actually really liked
the album, but I didn't watch much of the music videos. With the
visual experience and stuff like that, I was just like, okay, and
we want to see it. I bought it for birthday. We went out
to Beyonce and it was a great time, really great show. We were
in Admonton. It was cold, it was fucking raining, but it's cool.
She saw like Halo all in rain and it was like, fuck,
man, look like some mad movie. But the visual videos they had with
the Lemonade tracks, like even as somebody that want to be a filmmaker was
like, fuck, I want to do shit like this. Like there's like
even in drennine Chrome, there was like a portion I wanted to make it
and I was like, oh, I can't. I only took like a
sliver of it because it's really heavy. I was like, oh, I
don't want to do that here. But like there's projects where it's like I
want to have something to akin to what that is, and this doesn't have
that same Like that was more like an A twenty four Raw Horrors vibe,
but so this isn't that vibe as far as the same feeling. But I
respect the game as far as making new music a musical and having this sort
of scope idea around it. It could just be dog shit, but I
respect it and I'll be checking it out. I can't wait. I applaud
it, and this just again made me appreciate Jabay, Okay, you're doing
something really cool here. Let's see if it works. But as I said,
everyone go watch this trailer. It makes it look out to be like
a semi sexual thriller, to an action movie, to a sci fi movie.
Who knows. But I'm excited to check this thing out. So yeah,
we'll see. But that is it for Travis told you. Yeah,
I think I'll be back for Oscar predictions. I want to do a Royal
Roam one, but I don't know if I can have the time to even
do on myself, or even doing with the boys, because I even thought
about doing this weekend. I got a fucking Master Corps where you do a
three. It's just a lot, so I don't know, so I might
not get to happen, but uh, and I really want to do.
I didn't get talked about the top, but I think for the votes Oscar
season, I think I want to do like I've talked about this before,
where I go Okay, I would say this is the best, you know,
on the best actress day you get to do. I gotta make a
list and even deals like you should do that. I'd like to hear you
like meditating go through that. I think what I'm gonna be doing soon is
I think I'm gonna make a list of forty actors, actors, actresses,
whatever, and have the patron's voting to side, and then give me my
top ten. I'm gonna put the actors because I still want to go my
opinion. Who I think is the Kaream of Krim to Lake Krem. But
like, and I'm so excited we get to see poor things this week and
meet Kirklinterag and all see it together finally in Coloonna and just even a little
bit of that stuff with the curse. That's where I go, Hey,
I had fluence poot number one. I think I might have m a stone
now there, you know. And that's where it's like, I want to
get the hierarchy. But I also for me, there's like when I was
doing the male actors, it was like eight nine, ten, I couldn't
decide who could get those slots. So I need your help, I need
other people. So I think that's gonna come. And I think i'd do
a whole episodes like give you the brackets, right, So lots of fun
stuff coming up. Thank you very much. Welcome to the new year.
Tras told you is back. I'll try to be back as much as I
can, and I promise you and I'll love you. Boring