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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and
welcome back to the geek Fers podcast on

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the Saltburner Trust. That's me realizing
I didn't change my name until we got

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in here. Oh, I thought
that was just gonna be your like new

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Eggnog persona. You're just the salt
Burner for they can be. I'm leaning,

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I'm waving the flag, but yeah, I'm joined by I'm the narrator,

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he batser. I'm a handsome dog
il mus doctor strange to the field.

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Yes, they've shown this last episode
of twenty twenty three for the geek

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first. I think it'll draw up
after in the new year, but s

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Pubs has led us he's gonna be
he's working on a AI best of episodes,

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so he's taking all our chat GPTs
and putting him into one he's putting

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on YouTube. And then he said
we can all spoke them the feed.

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So yeah, we're gonna do that
because I swear next year I'm gonna try

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and get back to the bloopers.
I'm like, if I can do bloopers

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next year when I have time,
it's just with the movie editing. It's

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gonna be like a best of the
last three years, I have the time

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codes for some I just got to
really go back. It just got harder

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when we started to do way more
episodes. You know, when it was

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like the one to two week that
was easy for me. But there's just

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there's just too much. So one
time it's gonna happen, but I suppose

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we'll be dropping that. So a
big thank you to him. And he's

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I've said, he's gonna he's gonna
pick a movie for us to retro because

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it's his free time. People might
think he's a paid intern. He's not.

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He's definitely an unpaid not intern.
But he has this. He's not

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getting anything. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. He's still putting it on his

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resume though when he applies. Absolutely
that's fine. Good. Yeah, I'll

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give him a good Yeah, put
my phone number on there and call me

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and a reference there you go.
You hear that you got four You can

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say I got a reference from four
small business owners that I've done some work

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with. Look at that. That's
a good one. Yeah. Oh,

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Gefer's podcast, that's ship. I
hate that episode. I give them one

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star. That would be fucking wild. And so it's just interviewing for the

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stream job as this boss is going
offful I hate like eat first, but

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yes, we are here for what
If Season two. We also we'd cover

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it before, but sneaking in here
in the later half, literally the last

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week of the year. They did
their dropped every episode from the twenty second

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to the thirtieth, so we have
the last episode. So we will do

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an overall just what we thought of
the season first, and then we will

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take a break, we'll get to
spoils and we'll go episode by episode.

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I don't think you're gonna get like
an analog breakdown for much. It's I

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think it's gonna be similar to the
probably the X Men animated series retro clone

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Wars like that. I'm gonna have
the Wikipedia page up, we'll go over

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it, and we are gonna rank
them at the end individually. And I'm

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going to reveal the results of the
MCU draft because what If was the last

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one to wait, so and it's
all fresh because Kirkland's points all got suspended,

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so it's up for grabs. But
let's start to delmost. What did

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you think of what If? Season
two? Overall? Yeah, I guess

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you know. First what If?
In general, Like I think I was

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not lower, not low on the
first season, but I think I'm lower

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than most other people. It just
didn't appeal to me quite as much,

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partly as I don't really care much
for the art style here, and you

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know, it's the same thing here. I don't I don't really love what

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they're doing with it. It's a
little uh bland for me. Obviously there's

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some moments that that look really great, but yeah, going going through this,

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it uh, you know, it
started on a low note for me.

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The first episode to me is like
complete trash, but then the rest

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of it I thought was all very
enjoyable. Uh and like honestly, when

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you know, it's not to spoil
my ranking, but it's like it's honestly,

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like all just a big mess in
the middle. Like I don't even

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really feel that strongly about of certain
ones over other ones, Like they're all

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just very consistent in quality for me, except for that that first one.

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So yeah, I thought there was
some really fun stuff going on here.

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But I think maybe another a negative
point for me would be like the ending

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was a bit weak and it's kind
of tying a bunch of things together.

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And I was a little lower on
that one too, so a very weak

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start in finished, but then everything
else in limital was it was very solid

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and very fun and surprisingly fun because
you know, we talked about when we

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got the episode titles and whatnot a
couple months ago on a newscast and all

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of us were kind of like,
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there that seemed fun, but for
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I think some of these ended up
being more fun than I give them credit

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for originally. So yeah, I
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the last couple of days. Here
nice mister Batzer. Uh yeah, I

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think across the board this is This
is definitely just a step up from season

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one for me, and I really
love that season one, so I'm just

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loving what they're doing with these what
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what their formula is, just throwing
characters that we know and love and into

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different situations and just interacting with different
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with on the main screen. It's
just so fun. It's just I don't

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know, this show is. I
hope they just keep pumping this out like

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forever. I feel like they could
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storylines what they want to do.
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well, we're not gonna cover it. But they dropped the first clip of

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season three and they said coming soon. So it's not a confirm at it

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this year, but they already dropped
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guess it's a Red Guardian Bucky episode, So I think that we might there's

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a chance we might get it,
especially because next year's a bit later on

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content, so they might they might
drop it. So you might be getting

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more sooner than you thought, mister
Patson. That's exciting news. I'm I'm

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just really happy now. So yeah, I think across the board, I

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like, I really had a great
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of hard for me to, uh
to do like the rankings because I feel

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like there's some that are really low
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they're not even bad episodes, Like
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if I compare them to some Season
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right at the top. So really, I feel like just across the board,

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it was it was great quality,
and yeah, I really like what

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they did. Kind of what you're
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like the list of names, it
seemed underwhelming, but they sure did a

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good job with Yeah, with what
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thought that, uh, the second
last episodisode was the finale, Like,

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I thought that it was all it
was all out when I was watching it,

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and then I'm like, man,
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season. The two be continued supremest. I got talked into the fuck to

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Peggy, So I am. I'm
very happy that we did get a conclusion,

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but uh, yeah, I'm excited
to break it down. Yeah toa

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that sounds like you were pretty similar
to Kirklea when you just watched it all

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in row. Hey, it wasn't
a day by day thing. It was

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a three hour venture. I I
downloaded because like the first I think I

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left after the first two episodes were
out, and so I pre downloaded them.

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I thought, I'll watch them on
the plane. That's not happening when

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you have a little kid, You're
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I'm gonna watch what if I'm gonna
watch finish off Moon Easy? Did

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you ever? I'm still finishing it. Check Fagber's review in twenty twenty four.

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Yeah but yeah no, I I
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and the brief like synopsis for the
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The titles are one thing, but
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they throw in so many cool little
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the story, seeing it is so
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were. And so I'm very thankful
for that, and a lot of these

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episodes were really exciting what I thought
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certain titles. I'm just getting to
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happening, and they have this thrown
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I love how crazy they're going with

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some of these stories, and it
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While there's definitely some things in that
first season that I really really love,

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there's some things here that caught me
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up and really really make me want
to have more. What if I hope

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that they keep doing these crazy mashups. I don't know if you heard,

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but I know, I'm so happy
right now. They said coming soon and

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I don't know, I mean this
year or not. But I had to

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repeat it because I know sometimes Taylor
might to so he might he might have

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missed that. I did watch what
you watched the clip. I did watch

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that. Yeah, it's a long
clips, like three minutes of like Bucky,

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which I was kind of surprised.
Yeah, yeah, it's all their

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next year's mini episodes. It's just
four minutes. Yeah, yeah, they're

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they're tying of that. I was
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Thunderbolts. I thought they were gonna
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but no, we're getting it there. So Thunderboltz is canceled. Don't say

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that. Yeah that's it too.
Yeah and not a good note. Yeah

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yeah, yeah it's and that sucks. But it's just kind of like echo

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Chamber. I pretty much echo what
these guys say. I think my only

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difference is like I think I'm happier. I like the ending more than Dylan

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and these tudents speak about. So
we'll talk about that. But I like

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that, And that actually got me
jazzed for Secret Wars and just like man,

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if we can pull this off in
live action, like, we could

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have some real fun here, So
let's get the Secret Wars. I think

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overall it's stronger, so I think
that's a good thing. I think last

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season there is a couple episodes,
like the Peggy Carr episode, where we

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like the character, but it's just
a repeat of that. I think they

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tried to do less of those.
There's a few episodes that dip into okay,

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we've taken like the Hell episodes,
some from some Sheets, some from

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Thorn. We've kind of combined them. So there is some episodes that are

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all right, but they also provide
characters that, like Hella, we haven't

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got the scene in a bit,
so that was good. So yeah,

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I enjoyed it. The style I
still like enough. I think some episodes

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works better than the others, so
I think overall it's better than season one.

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But I think I guess my hat
take is I still don't think there's

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an episode as good as the Doctor
Strange episode from last season, though I

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still think that's like cream of the
Crop. I don't think there's anything that

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gets on that of emotional level or
a thematic level, So that's why I'd

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say, like, if it's like
I could only pick one, I'd still

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lean to season one because I got
that strange episode and he's in here of

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course, but and I think he's
used greatly. But I don't think anything

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gets to that hype. But I
think overall there's not as much weakness there

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was the other go around. Yeah, I know this is a concept,

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that same thing a few episodes tells
and go happy home and says Christmas.

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I don't know, but then when
you get like, Okay, this is

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good, I still think that I
want them to get even more weirder with

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the stuff, you know, like
more out there. I do appreciate,

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you know, happy says Christmas and
they tell a different story, but I

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do really want some we still have
just never gotten like a easy like what

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a fanos won, you know,
like very simple ones. I feel like

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in MCU can and there is there
is some strange choices they make, so

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I hope that we kind of get
a few more bigger consequence choices by then

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they it doesn't matter. It's multiverse
stuff, so it's just for fun.

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I had a good time, and
I'm still unsure how I feel about the

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daily release you'd have to ask me
in like a non Christmas time, because

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I often just forgot about it,
and not that it became homework, but

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it became like, oh, I
have to watch it because of X,

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Y and Z and just because whether
I was busy before. Luckily I was

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sick later on, so the last
few episodes I wasn't doing much. Sure,

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I was just hanging around, but
it just kind of fell to the

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wayside. So I'm very curious to
see what they do in the future,

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if they go back to weekly or
daily. I don't know what the pros

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and cons were. So it was
an odd experience because I'd be watching like

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three at a time, and then
one, and then two and then three,

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so it's like, I don't I
guess I'm just saying I don't know

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if I enjoyed it, you know, I feel like it was It's almost

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more like when we used to do
the binge Netflix stuff, Dylan, where

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it's like, yeah, you get
it all, but at the same time,

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it's like it was a lot at
the same time, and I think

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less starts to stand out. You
start to you don't kind of salvate on

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things for a little bit. It's
just Okay, there to the next episode,

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so who knows, but I think
having the option to, you know,

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like if I if I do have
a three hour time limit to just

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binge or or whatnot. But yeah, like I watched it in three different

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instances where I watch a bunch of
episodes and then I waited, and then

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I watched bunch of episodes I thought
it was done. So then I've finished

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the last episode about an hour and
a half ago, so I just kind

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of gotten those moments of like,
I'm really down to just keep watching this,

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but I can't because I have to
wait another day for at least one

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more episode. So it's kind of
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There you go, first world MCU
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a fun time. They'll be good
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lot of GV favorites which they can
find where Taylor, Ladies, gentlemen,

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with your connection geek verses, he
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is our Twitter and geek Verse is
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Nova Core Nova Prime recruits Nebula,
These are not like the X Men ones

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where they are very thick. So
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condense some of it if we don't
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need a full Wikipedia Wikipedia one.
Yeah, they're a bit more detailed on

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this one. But Nova Records recruits
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Novacore following run accusation successful coup against
Thanos Xander sealed off from the universe to

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protect from Roma's forces. Nebla discovers
Yondu's body, which has been murdered,

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and they investigate. But da it
just about stuff there finding the main frame,

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blah blah blah. She meets yong
Rog you know Jude Law's character from

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Captain Marvel, so I'm sure Tay
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work together, but then he betrays, revealing that him and over Prime are

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working together, uh to do some
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in and then the whole Nover Girl
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Neville reveals she's realized that Nova Prime's
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so the Shield would close again.
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killing Ronan, Novah Prime tries to
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The Shield reopens, never prepares defending
XANDAR. You got a cast of

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characters as a like, I said, uh, you got YELLANDU in there.

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You got Howard the Duck, you
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probably a few others, but yeah, I'll start with you Tail.

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What did you feel about getting Jude
Law back in there was actually Jude Law?

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What if? It's always a continual
it's always weird who comes back and

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weird who doesn't. But you got
Jude Law. What do you think about

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this episode? The first episode of
the batch? Yeah, I got I

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got excited when I saw Jude Law's
like name drop at the beginning when they're

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like the characters, and that was
super cool. But I totally did not

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connect the dots that is his character
coming back. And sure enough, when

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his name dropped, I was like, okay, let's do quick google,

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like, oh yeah, this is
a Jude lost character. It all makes

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sense now. So wait, wait, so you just said Jula in the

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credits and you thought he was just
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I thought he was before number three? Well you never know, I

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mean Marvel's double dipping. You know
who knows the Mads but talk about another

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day. So that that was exciting
just to have that that pull pullback of

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a character there. But then I
thought the most anti climactic ending to to

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Ronan. I mean, it's just
super very much super shitty. Just these

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gates open and then they just closed, and just the one snippet of him

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just like h then he I thought
he was gonna jump or something, thought

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he's gonna do some epic but he
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bit like Captain Marvel too. Yeah
remember what. Yeah, he came back

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and said, oh, we got
to get her, and then the Guardians

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just kill him, so he never
went to go get Like it's it's a

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strange. There's some inside joke that
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they got to make them die or
disappear in the most like useless way.

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So pretty much, but overall the
episode it felt to like a cool,

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nitty gritty like cop investigation espionage,
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being like dark and like like narrating
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like very nourish, is what,
Yeah, yeah, very nourrish. So

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the ensemble was a massive surprise.
I was not expecting to see, like

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Howard, the Duck and Corgan groups
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pretty fun. Got you some points, Taylor, That got me some points.

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Yeah, unannounced it appearance, I'm
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He was in the trailers? Was
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there was not really any unannounced because
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So season three we'll go for season
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just it was great to see the
characters all combined together and just do what

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they do. Now. This was
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because I saw some things like that

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he was he was like Vin Diesel
didn't play Groot or not. There's a

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guy named fred Tatascoro. Did that
affect your lovely character performance? All the

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characters? Oh, Vin Diesel wasn't
doing Groot. That really took me out

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of it. Like, I just
thought it was very peculiar why they would

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like shake him up a little bit. But I don't even know why.

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Why wouldn't they just use the same
lines, Like why, I don't know

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that's true. We need to pay
a lot of money to get a guy

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into say I'm grouped differently. I
think Fred's might be getting a lot more

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work in the future. So yeah, but overall, again, like like

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I said, it's it's a good
episode. I thought it was pretty fun.

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Dylan on the opposite entry, because
you open up with other than the

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first one, you know, I
had enjoyable time, So what was going

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on with this first one for you? Yeah, it's it's not even that

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I can point to any particular thing
and say, like all these plot holes

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or you know, bad performances.
It's just super fucking boring to me.

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This is there. There was,
there was nothing in here that I cared

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for. I'm not a big fan
of Jude Law's character from Captain Marvel.

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Thought he was a very weak villain, so I wasn't jazz to see him

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come back. But like this whole
like oh this backstab on her from Nova

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Prime and and Jude thoughts like,
I don't I don't care about these characters,

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so why would I care if they
backstabbed her? Like none of this

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really matters because of because it's what
if too? But yeah, I mean,

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like the the the Disney Plus descriptions
a lot quicker than the one that

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Travis had there. But it was
just like, you know, Nebula gets

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to display her detective skills and it's
like, oh, that sounds like kind

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of fun. Then I was like, didn't this didn't really feel like a

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detective show. It was just very
bland and I don't know the crew of

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characters. I think I'm a little
sick of Cord at this point, just

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generally speaking, I've had enough Chord
in my life. And he pops up

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again another episode two, so they
get a lot of use out of that

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pile of rocks as they like to
call him. But I think I've had

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no Cork. I mean, I
don't know what is Howard's doing in this

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Probably did someone did. I can
pull up after I'll look right now,

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but someone had Cork. And then
even I don't know, Meek's in here

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too, but he doesn't really do
anything. I thought it was very funny.

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There's like the battle at the end
of this episode where the whole crew

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of them are facing off against them, and like they all, you know,

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have their weapons and whatnot. Meek
like whips out his two knives,

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but then it's just like a bunch
people shooting at each other and Meek never

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does anything because he just has knives, so he just like stands there with

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his knives up. It's like,
what's going on here? This is just

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very weird, weirdly choreographed. So
yeah, this episode just did nothing for

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me. It wasn't funny, it
wasn't interesting, it wasn't a fun what

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if scenario, it wasn't an interesting
uh deep dive on characters that I love.

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I love Nebula, but I didn't
really feel like she got to do

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anything particularly fun here. So yeah, this was a complete dud for me.

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If if we write what if episodes
individually, like in our MCU wriking,

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this might be like rate above Dark
World for me, like this is

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blow a low incredible Hulk. But
yeah, I really could not care less

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about this episode. Correctly skipping on
a rewatch, no one had cork correction,

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so no one got these two with
the two points. Yeah, because

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there was no what project would you
have popped up? And like otherwise well

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that would have been like thor Guardian
was last year. Yeah, I think

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he would have popped up. But
I remember at one point and last week

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it was rumored that we weren't getting
one of this year. So I think

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a lot of our what if picks
were like, eh, like I don't

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want to pick it. Yeah,
I mean it's snuck in just in the

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just in the nick of time,
I guess. So yeah, so I'll

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go. Because I'm similar to Delaware, I think I'm more positive on but

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not in the sense of like I
just don't think I had as much disdain

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for it. But I was liking
the whole setup of Okay, it is

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gonna be like a Detective Blade running
a war where she finds you on do

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and here we go. But then
it just became like an action adventure cop

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movie instead of like a you know, the Batman Superhero cop move where it's

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like it's Gordon and Batman figuring things
out. It's like, no, and

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I don't mind y wrong, but
like he wasn't acting to me anything like

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he acted. That's his name,
right, Young Rong. I'm sure it

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is, I just I don't I
do not remember it, so yeah,

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Young Rock. Like for me,
he didn't act. He was acting more

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like Jude Law than the characters and
get because they're showing them all these like

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he says something to the locking code
and she's like, you don't need to

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speak to the guy, just do
that for fun. But it's like you

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weren't like that, and Captain Marvel
like he's trying to be also, and

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I like Jude Law, but that's
just it's like, okay, that that's

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all right. So I didn't mind
the combo. I liked because I don't

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think we've got nothing in the movies. I loved the idea of putting the

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Guardians and the Captain Marvel World together. There's these two space entities that haven't

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really interacted. We got Thorign Guardians, so that's cool. So I'd like

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to see that more in the future, like the Space world stuff, the

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way we talk about oh one day
able to do midnight suns and the horror

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people be together. I wish the
Space people, so I liked that aspect.

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I didn't really care about Novacore.
Like turnout Novacore was like a footprint

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in the MCU Fanos killed them all
off screen, so that shows to me

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the importance of them, so I
don't really invest in them here. So

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I was liking the idea of okay, murder mystery who done it? But

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then it just wasn't that exciting when
it's like, oh, well, oh

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everybody has done it except for these
few characters. And I do agree that

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I think the show sometimes does there. What if is just well, what

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if we have this character get this
power set and like her getting the yond

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do thing. We see that later
with Captain Carter, you know, like

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it happens, it happens the hell. I think that's something I would like

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them to rely on less of the
next season. MC scenarios is not just

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this character becomes yon due it's like, okay, well you can just like

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do that and it doesn't have to
be what the episode's about. You could

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just have that as your setting.
But yeah, but the something was literally

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with the head and the whistle,
It's like all right, so yeah,

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this was like a fine, This
was fine for me and you know,

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probably for our rank. So I
will say I'm bored of corg and but

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I'll never get bored of that whistle
needle. That's always cool. That was.

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If there's any positive for me in
this episode, it's seeing that thing

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was around. She was very efficient
with it as opposed to Sean gunned.

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Some time, maybe this will be
another cast a swimming strike content, But

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Dylan, is that like the one
MCU weapon you would have chose, Like,

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you know, obviously starts people give
me lights there, But if they

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come to you and say hey,
especially the last episode, there's lots of

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weapons. If they say hey,
don't you get your pick of the litter.

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I mean if I can wield me
older and I think that'd be pretty

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sweet because I could fly with that, right, So that would be pretty

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sweet. But honestly, the whistle, I don't know. I mean,

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what am I gonna do? Go
go around killing people? Like? I

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feel like I would want a weapon
that I could actually do something within my

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daily life. I'm not gonna just
like what else doesn't Yon do? Hold

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it and like fly down with it? You can fly. You're a big

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rock climber, Dian, so instead
of the like instead of I forgot about

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that, so I can just not
rock climb. I can just no,

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if you fall, you pull it
out. That's what I'm saying, Like,

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oh I fall on the spike and
just stab Yeah, I'd have to

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think that'd be a fun and butter
topics sometimes, Yeah, it's up there,

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though, I do love that whistle. I gotta go with the gauntlet.

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I can't whistle. I guess that
might be my history. Actually,

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yeah, I can't whistle that well
either I or Thanos Trons. I guess

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yeah, yeah, I guess iron
Man's because I feel like it had adapts

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to all sizes, right where Thanosis
was pretty big. I don't. I

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think I would just snap inside the
glove and nothing would happen the fingers.

405
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:29,960
When snap, you just be,
which we did get a snap this season.

406
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,359
So Kirkland, were you happy to
Young Rock back and the rest of

407
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,960
the crew. Young Rock didn't do
too much for me, But overall,

408
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240
I actually really liked this episode.
I I agree with you guys points that,

409
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:44,720
like, I feel like they started
us on an interesting journey of like

410
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,319
falling Nebula doing this uh investigation,
but it just it was really like shallow

411
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:52,119
from that point on. They didn't
go fully deep into it, which I

412
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,920
think really would have made this episode
very special because it had all of like

413
00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:02,079
the feel of that that Blade Runner
like detective stuff, and I was digging

414
00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:03,839
that. I feel like Nebula too, for her like deep voice, She's

415
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,160
just such a like it just fits
for her to be this like old time

416
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:10,920
like cop that is willing to go
beyond the line, you know, to

417
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,799
do what's right. And I just
I don't know. I love Nebula too,

418
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:17,799
so I like seeing her more on
the uh, the the good side

419
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,359
of the moral line. I like
how she was kind of, I don't

420
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,559
know, like the one one man
army throughout this because Nova was very no

421
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,839
I guess Novacore Nova Prime. Everyone
was just very sussed to begin with.

422
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,960
And yeah, I love the design
of Xander where they were and her,

423
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,039
Yeah, her just like hovercar that
she was going on at the end when

424
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,440
they're on like the big skyscraper type
aesthetic. I just really liked the design

425
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:44,079
of it. I thought it was
really beautiful, the way that the shield

426
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:47,279
opened up and then like they had
the sunrise and everything. Uh. And

427
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,359
I actually really did like our ensemble
career. I like having Howard the duck

428
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:56,680
here and under how we're saying corg
is overused, like the fact that we

429
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,039
got that new Guardians team at the
end of the garden Stree and how a

430
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,640
duck still isn't on it. What
are we doing here? Yeah? I

431
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,039
know, what are we doing here? I don't know. I just feel

432
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:10,119
like it was I personally would never
like make all of those characters into one

433
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,519
ensemble. But I'm so glad that
I did, because first, I don't

434
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,240
know, they just they just fit
well, like Corgan Groot, They're they're

435
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,839
pretty similar actually, just like elemental
type creatures. He got a rock version

436
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,039
as well as us as the tree
Man, and I don't know, I

437
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,960
feel like Coorg's humor was really working
for me too. I can't remember if

438
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,279
it was this episode later on when
he was talking about like the rock paper

439
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:33,240
scissor thing and he's it's just like, yeah, it's my mortal enemy paper.

440
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,039
It's like, man, that's that's
a great line there. But uh

441
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,519
yeah, overall, I I really
did like this episode, even though it

442
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:45,240
didn't do anything like Steaks wise major
major, I don't know, groundbreaking stuff

443
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,960
like Ronan went out like a little
bit as we were talking about earlier,

444
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,279
and I don't know, I just
kind of laughed, like when they dismantled

445
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:53,839
him the way he did, Like
why wasn't that just their planet from the

446
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,160
get go? Just open the door
and then as he's coming through, just

447
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,079
closed the BA just completely decimate him. He does nothing to stop it or

448
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,079
escape anyway. I was even no
reverse or anything, just even the first

449
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,640
few minutes I thrown off. Guard
were like that, what was their plan?

450
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,279
Just to lock the planet up?
I was like, this is a

451
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,119
bold strategy, you know, like
like as long as you have the resources.

452
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,240
But still eventually like you can't you
can't wait them, And I guess

453
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,599
that was the idea, but I
just like laughed, like, oh,

454
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,160
we're just locking up, okay,
cool? And literally Ronan's just right there

455
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,000
waiting for them to open the door
that whole time. He's just standing there

456
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:29,759
with his hammer, just waiting.
Wonder if he gets meals delivered to him

457
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:32,039
or if he has to go and
eat, you know, leave his post.

458
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:36,799
But you think the Supreme Leader Chick
would have been okay or like happy,

459
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,880
like oh you killed Ronan? Okay, well yeah, like this is

460
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,440
great. Now we can open the
gates and everyone wins. But she just

461
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:48,160
shees like die with like run in
hey they were lovers or something. Shoes

462
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240
corrupt at that point. And I'm
just even surprised too, because like in

463
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,680
the first movie, I'm guessing that
gate that went over the planet is the

464
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,519
same thing that they use in Guardians
want right to like make a barricade.

465
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:02,759
I think, right, yeah,
I don't know, because that bear cake

466
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:07,000
got fucking bopped. That's why I
was wondering time just of like I'm trying

467
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,680
to think too, because in the
Marbles, like a few months ago,

468
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:15,200
like what was that planet that got
like locked off from the sunlight and all

469
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,440
that, It was like a similar
kind of concept. That was the difference

470
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,480
between the Novacords and Guardians. And
this would have been the was it like

471
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,359
the Focused Stone or the Powerstone?
Right, yeah, that would have been

472
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,880
yeah, no focused Stone. So
he because that's that was time space,

473
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,880
the reality focus. That was what
threw me off because I was trying to

474
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,519
pinpoint at what point Ronan betrays Thanos
here and I guess it. I assumed,

475
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:52,799
like, oh is it after he
got the Infinity Stone Banos before?

476
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,960
So he Ronan could have been much
more successful if he just waited it.

477
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,559
But it's fitting for Rona and he
made a fucking mistake and betrayed him too,

478
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,079
says Agon, for sure, just
accusing people. Yeah, that's all

479
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,200
he does. He's got buffed Marl
snap though, looking for him, Oh

480
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,319
for him, he needs it.
They saw us episode like we gotta from

481
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:17,799
a bone? Anything else do you
want to do? Thumbs for these episodes.

482
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,599
We're doing a couple of thumbs.
I can use thumb down for me,

483
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,000
something half for me, do one
them up, a whole variety.

484
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,160
What if Peter Quill attacked Earth's mightiest
heroes in nineteen eighty eight? The ragers

485
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,319
take Peter Quile, but this time
he drops them off with the ego.

486
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:44,400
Six months later, again I'm paraphrasing. There's like eight there's like twenty sentences

487
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,799
I'm putting it, trying to get
down to five. Six months later,

488
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Uh, several heroes around the world. Uh, answer and response, Peggy

489
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,359
Carter, Howard Stark, Bill Foster, King Kachaka, Bucky Barnes, doctor

490
00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,880
Wendy Lawson. Who, oh,
right, that way I always got the

491
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,799
way, the way you forgot about
young Rock, I always forget about in

492
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,319
that banning. And I'll reluctant hank
him okay, who brings his daughter Hope

493
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:11,079
along for the ride. After a
scuffle, not a scuttle, a scuffle

494
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,400
on Cony Island, the team detains
Quill with the help of thor As.

495
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,759
The team discovers that it's not Peter
Quill doing all this mischievous stuff. It

496
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,119
is, in fact ego and there's
a bunch of stuff. Talking about oh,

497
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,039
Quill says, Stark reminds me of
his best friend Steve Rodgers, Like,

498
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,079
whatever, if you saw the episode, you know, but that's what

499
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,119
happens. It's ego. They all
fight ego. It's a big war.

500
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:33,920
So yeah, what do you think, doom about this one? Up?

501
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,319
We saw his preview of getting kind
of the almost like eight seventies to nineties

502
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,039
Avengers characters, what if they were
a team up at this point. Yeah,

503
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:47,799
No, I had a really good
time with this episode. Yeah,

504
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,279
we obviously have been a bank drought
here in terms of where is our Avengers

505
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,079
team. We've been waiting for a
few years, and so this is like

506
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,119
a fun little supplement. Here's a
little here's a fun little Avengers team.

507
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,640
And we actually get another one,
a separate one later on in the season

508
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,440
as well. But I like the
roster here. Is fun to see some

509
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,359
of these characters, like Goliath being
in the team. Is kind of fun

510
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,599
to see him actually like using his
powers because he's kind of just a human

511
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,799
hanging out in whatever A man two
I guess, So fun to have him

512
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,519
in there. And yeah, I'm
I'm a huge ego fan. One of

513
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,400
my favorite villains in the MCU,
so it's fun to have him back to

514
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
you. And then yeah, I
really like the Peter Quill stuff. I

515
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:26,799
like to see some more of this
kid Peter Quill and interacting with Hope,

516
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,480
Like that's a very that's kind of
a fun what if scenario just because of

517
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,680
the age differences or or I guess
just the same age similarity, but because

518
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,799
they're you know, back when they're
still kids in the eighties, nineties,

519
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,960
whatever it is, So that was
fun to have that connection between them as

520
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,319
well. So and then yeah,
I just really enjoyed the fight that we

521
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,680
had in the desert or Egos spawn
and all these like sand clay creatures and

522
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,759
he turns himself into a mountain,
Like it was just very goofy and fun.

523
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,359
So yeah, just good character stuff. I feel like m you in

524
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,160
general. I guess specifically what if
because there is an episode in season one

525
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,279
whereas like Evil Hank pim right where
he was like killing a bunch of the

526
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,839
Avengers or something like that. So
I feel like they really they really like

527
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,799
Hank, they really want they really
really really like Hank. So it was

528
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,119
fun. He was kind of the
protagonist of the episode I guess. So,

529
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,960
yeah, I had a really good
time with this, so it was

530
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,039
a lot of fun. Pats Uh. Yeah, this one was one of

531
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:23,680
the lower ones for me. I
I don't I don't know exactly what it

532
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,319
was. I feel like I don't
know, I really don't know what it

533
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,880
was. Guy and a lot of
that. I feel like just the stuff

534
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,000
between like Peter Quill and Hope,
like the interactions were were cute and wholesome.

535
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,039
But I don't know, maybe I
was just being too hypocritical, but

536
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:44,880
I'm like, I feel like when
Ego gets him, like Peter Quill right

537
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,720
at the start, he just like
melts away his his disimon thing. And

538
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,440
then from there and then on I
just kind of took it like he's like

539
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,559
brainwashed now and he goes in that
direction. But then later on it's it's

540
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,480
like Hope is just giving him this
this walkman, and this is the one

541
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,480
thing he's been whinting ever since he
went to the planet. But I don't

542
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,079
know, maybe maybe that's just the
way that it works in this story,

543
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,599
but it did not work for me. Brainwashed though, I think he just

544
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,759
came to Earth and they thought all
the bad stuff was like how much time

545
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:15,240
would have happened, right, because
even like this kid, he's definitely like

546
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:19,599
a guard. Yeah, but I
feel like it's like a with Ego thing,

547
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,039
Like I like, he didn't show
up to Earth and was just like

548
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,759
taking out like a like Hank Pim's
house or something like that. It just

549
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,599
seemed like there had been like quite
a bit of time from the time that

550
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640
he was abducted to where he is
now. But then just his interactions made

551
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,400
it seem like he I don't know, it was it was a really recent

552
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,519
thing. But again, maybe I'm
just being a little too picking a straw.

553
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,880
I feel like Ego is just kind
of like a busy guy and he's

554
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:45,319
simultaneously controlling so many different people and
sometimes he just isn't controlling Peter for a

555
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,920
bit, so then he can go
just hang out on the carousel do whatever

556
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,799
he wants to do, autopilot mode
for him. Yeah, exactly. It's

557
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,319
not a very uh watchful father in
that way. Yeah, that's fair.

558
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:59,119
I And then like the like the
team up stuff with the Avengers. It

559
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,920
was fun having the Winter Soldier in
here. Oh yeah, I love when

560
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Peggy's season he looks like, yeah, he looks like identical of the day

561
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480
we lost Like that was a good
mode because also Howard too write that he

562
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:13,679
was around for that era, So
yeah, I really liked that moment shut

563
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,920
his battison like eye paint on.
That's one of my favorite winter in the

564
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,360
entire FCU is that peak Winter Soldier
with the mask and everything, and yeah,

565
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,719
I've just seen him kick ass with
those guns. That was fun to

566
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,079
see. But I don't know.
I also like the big, big fight

567
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,960
at the end where he goes just
summoning things. It didn't do too too

568
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,760
much for me, but I mean
that being said, it was still it

569
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400
was still a past spoiling my thumb, my thumb direction by the end of

570
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,400
this episode, the field well just
on the Winter Soldier thing. So I

571
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:52,039
know that this is obviously a different
date, but we year was Howard Stark

572
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,079
murdered by Bucky, This would have
been after that, right, So I'm

573
00:34:55,079 --> 00:35:00,760
assuming those events changed because Bucky was
like on low is how I took a

574
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,440
tooth to them here, considering the
how of Stark is a lot, I

575
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,760
would say, yes, it's definitely
after that age wife left him alive.

576
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,440
Yeah, but and what if everything, because he like Peter is still a

577
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:13,760
kid, right, So that's what
made me think like it was still it's

578
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,239
not present day, but it was
like in the past a little bit,

579
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,440
and Danny's older than him. Danny
like he gets killed when Dany like starks

580
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,519
about sixteen. So I think it
could come after. But again with the

581
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:28,159
what if timelines, I'd just say
like okay, like maybe this doesn't need

582
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,840
to happen anymore for X, Y
and Z right in this universe. Yeah,

583
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,159
you reminded me of the d aged
Robert Downey and that uh. And

584
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:43,320
it's just a real stereo especially when
you get like these images he named it

585
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,840
barf and then that black and white
shot like what we do home? Uh.

586
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,239
But yeah, the episode, though
it was, it was again just

587
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,519
another crazy ensemble. I was not
expecting to see. Uh, his name's

588
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,360
Giant Man, right. I did
not realize this was Goliath. Yeah,

589
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,679
I didn't realize that that was Lawrence
Fishburne's character. I think we talked about

590
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,440
this like on the newscast before,
and you also forgot about it again totally.

591
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:15,599
It's easy to forget. I do
not blame you at all. This

592
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:22,559
is another character, another character.
I totally it clicks now who that ant

593
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:27,920
Man looking character was in those like
Lego minifigure packs because I didn't random one

594
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,880
of the random yeah. So but
it's it's cool though to see to see

595
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,400
him in there, uh with ant
Man and all the other characters and Bucky

596
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,159
Barnes being there, totally surprised me. I was not expecting that, So

597
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,280
I I definitely put this episode on
the higher end. And it's just the

598
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,679
outrageousness of just how many fucking egos
appeared, Like like I felt, this

599
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,079
is like the Mummy. The Mummy
returns and just have the fucking dogs the

600
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:58,119
sand appearing. It's just like unending. They just keep appearing and peering Anuwvis's

601
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,480
army, and that's ego summons of
news much. I think it is a

602
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,559
great moment where they kill all those
dogs and then they look over the hill

603
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,320
and there's just ten thousand more coming. There's like eighty guys. Like right,

604
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,599
I can't wait to red show the
Mummy one. But this is some

605
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,320
good stuff there. This is one
that I liked. I just wish I

606
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,519
liked it more. And I think
this is one where it dawned me because

607
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,639
I think Dylan's right. I like
all the action stuff and the battlefield very

608
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,119
Man of Steel Flash ESQ where they're
in a big battlefield. But I like

609
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,519
Egos attacks. I love how he
starts bigging that in a bunch of little

610
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,760
pieces of them the fucking dogs this
Hair said. I think it just shows

611
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,079
that in a half an hour episode
of what I was missing is I wanted

612
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:43,440
more of the team dynamic, and
really it just gets to they get together.

613
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,280
They have one scene to establish their
team and then it's just them fighting

614
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,800
a bunch, which that's why it's
still like a pass from me. I

615
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,639
still liked it. I had a
good time. I think it's more in

616
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:52,119
like the Middle Road, but that's
where it's just like, if I could

617
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,480
have had one that was like an
hour, this would be the one,

618
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:58,159
because that's half the fun with the
Avengers, right as seeing them interacts,

619
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,480
seeing the dinner scene, seeing them
try lit Thor's hammer, or the argument

620
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:05,079
over Loki's staff. We don't get
it too much here, And I also

621
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,440
didn't. I don't know. I
also didn't. I don't think it was

622
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,880
bad, but I wasn't invested in
Peter Quill and Hope children interacting, you

623
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,599
know, like I wanted to keep
going with the adults route. So that's

624
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,039
where it's just a good problem to
have of it left me wanting more.

625
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,400
So maybe I would enjoy it if, like what if season three, if

626
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,000
we came back to them to be
like, hey, this team's still together

627
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,760
and they're fighting this threat, you
know, like whatever it may be.

628
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,400
So yeah, I enjoyed it was
just hoping. When we got that trailer,

629
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,159
I was like, man, this
is one of my most anticipate ones

630
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,280
because I like all these people.
So I wanted a little bit more.

631
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,800
And I don't know, almost like
the Drew Law thing, maybe swap at

632
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Benning's character for like I she just
didn't do much for me here. It

633
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,519
wasn't at Benning, but it's like, yeah, there's just something like I

634
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:57,480
wish they'd just said it before Wasp
had disappeared and Wasp was on the team.

635
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,960
I would rather they gone that route, because I think it was kind

636
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,400
of fine, you know. But
I do appreciate Hank Pim because he's original

637
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400
member, and I wish we got
more. I've always wanted. I think

638
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,159
it would be animated, but I
always wanted like a sixties show with him

639
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:15,719
and Janet together. It's like as
the original type of duo and stuff.

640
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,119
But right, yeah, anything else
specifically on this episode, No, I

641
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:29,119
don't think so something for me,
yep, I'm with you. Thumb We'll

642
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,079
do a half thumb, half them
up. Do one one thumb, right

643
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,199
there, one thumb? All right? What if Happy Hogan saved Christmas?

644
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,599
On Christmas Eve? Happy Ogan is
assigned to oversee security for Avengers Tower on

645
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:47,960
the annual holiday party until Justin hamm
Ran his henchman, Sir Guy, and

646
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:53,320
Rusty break out of prison and lay
siege to the tower looking for Tony Stark's

647
00:39:53,360 --> 00:40:00,159
tech and Bruce Banners Hulk blood serum. Maria Hill's injured in the attempt the

648
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:02,840
attack. Murray Hill is like also
the female version of Rone and they just

649
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,480
like it's just dirty. Yeah,
and then eventually what happens is, you

650
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:13,480
know, there's a bunch of you
know, high jinks. Hopey Happy gets

651
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,039
injected with the blood he turns into
I can't remember the actual there is a

652
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,159
Marvel character name after this Purple Hulk
called look, oh, the Freak,

653
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:22,760
That's what it's called. It's the
Freak. So yeah, so it is

654
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,880
a version of this, but we
get that, we get a lot of

655
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,880
where are the Avengers while they're doing
some sort of charity Christmas event there with

656
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,159
kids, and you know, there's
some fun stuff there. So it's pretty

657
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,239
much just die Hard with Happy Hogan
aka the Freak as well. So Tyr,

658
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,559
I gotta go to you because you
know Justin Hammer. I've always said,

659
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,280
of all the people that in the
MCU, taire is he is for

660
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,199
sure Justin Hammer. He will say
no, but he definitely is. Were

661
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,039
you happy to see you know him? Bag? You know we got chewed

662
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,880
law, we got I feel like
we're getting a lot of characters in one

663
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,639
of season two that only had that
one appearance and been gone. But you're

664
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,000
notoriously not a big and enjoy of
Justin Hammer's. Did this turning around or

665
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,719
that kind of sink the episode?
When he was the Alan Rickman role here?

666
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,960
I thought it was. It was
kind of funny just seeing him back,

667
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:12,679
and again I was not expecting him
to appear here, but uh yeah,

668
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:20,039
and behold just to see him doing
it. It's been a twenty twenty

669
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:24,320
three let me tell you. I
was laughing at the fact that they just

670
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,480
really captured and emphasized his mannerisms,
and they do that with many of these

671
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:34,000
recurring characters throughout other episodes of what
if they capitalize on those certain things like

672
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,559
when he walks in, he's he's
doing like his fucking dance thing that he

673
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,599
does an Iron Man too, and
he walks on stage and I was laughing

674
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,079
like, oh, this is yeah, this is a Justin Hammer attribute or

675
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:51,239
trait that he's just emphasizing here and
exercising. So that was good and well

676
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,880
I'm definitely more in the positive and
with Hammer here, I was laughing mostly

677
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:00,079
just one thing. Just fuck.
I was not expecting it when the Happy

678
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,000
Hogan got the Hulk juice and just
the way he like broke into the room

679
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:10,840
and the way the needles arm into
his leg and he's, ah, logistics

680
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,119
of pretty that. Oh yeah,
fuck it got me so good though when

681
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:19,320
his leg just blew into this purple
Hulk leg. But I got super excited.

682
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,480
He's like, well, this is
really cool just to see him turn

683
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:25,800
into this, this this character which
I was not maybe he's maybe we talked

684
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,679
about it in the news newscast.
Fuck, I was not expecting it.

685
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,239
It totally went over my head.
This completely changed from the the title that

686
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,159
I was expecting, Like a John
McClain Christmas style scenario to you know,

687
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:43,480
we're creating more wet of scenarios with
the Hulk juice going into Happy Hogan's juice

688
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:50,199
and Justin Hammer trying to Again,
that's not a statement I ever need recited.

689
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,679
But so this episode is much more
on the positive spectrum than I was

690
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,800
anticipating. Yeah, I'll go next, I'm the same way. I did

691
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,639
not think it was gonna be that
way. I think we all went oh

692
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:05,239
man, because I think what I
was thinking is going to be is similar

693
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,440
to the Thor party episode, where
it was all right, but and this

694
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:12,360
is a comedic episode, but that
was just like, Okay, it's just

695
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,719
Thor high jinks. Some characters you
can see lokis of Frost Giant, but

696
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,679
just felt like it was purely a
comedy episode where it's all dumb Thor.

697
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,800
There wasn't much substance there, or
at least even and I don't think they

698
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,519
did. I feel like we didn't
see the freak in the trailers at all,

699
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:29,480
right, so I feel like they
kept that hidden, and I think

700
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,280
that was a great call because I
was like, Okay, this instantly makes

701
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,440
this episode better, especially that like
they didn't turn in the freak right away,

702
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,360
it was like this ticking clock of
Oh's arms bag now his legs big

703
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,599
and oh, it's like it's slowly
building up. So I'm a big Justin

704
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,639
Hammer fan. I don't understand how
this man's won an oscar since he's been

705
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:49,440
the MCU. We've not seen him
anywhere in the MCU, Like, it

706
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,400
doesn't make any sense to me.
But uh yeah, I end up enjoying

707
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,000
this a lot more. And this
was probably one that with the kids they

708
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,679
enjoyed it, because there's a few
episodes in here that actually didn't enjoy This

709
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,360
is when I think during chrismas I
would put on it was like, okay,

710
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,039
this is this is a good time. And again the whole charity event

711
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,800
too, that felt some of the
stuff I like with the Avengers of the

712
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Party stuff where Natasha's like doing nutcrackers
so she's in this you know uniform.

713
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,159
There's this great scene where it's Hawkeye, I can't remember who he's talking to

714
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,639
is Oh, it's Bruce and they're
doing a Turboman skit when they're fighting over

715
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,159
the Ironman doll, and then the
background all the toys that are not sold

716
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:28,559
are Hawkeye toys. Yeah, he's
the booster and just like Congress, like

717
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,039
I really need this Iron Man toy. Like I don't know what the context

718
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,119
was, but like little stuff where
they were like kind of pairting other Christmas

719
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:37,000
movies too, So it's like,
okay for an episode, I really thought

720
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,159
it was gonna be the bottom of
the barrel. It surprised me and I

721
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,679
was happy with it. So that
was my thoughts on Happy saving Christmas.

722
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,960
So I loved Hawkeye's lying too,
because he's like, yeah, my wife

723
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,920
told me if I don't bring home
the Iron Man, don't come home.

724
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,239
It's like not even your wife wants
her own Hawkman or Hawkeye toy. Oh

725
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,119
yeah, but uh, I guess
I'll just I'll just go with this one.

726
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,280
I Yeah, I I truly love
this episode. It was it was

727
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,480
so much fun. I feel like
this was the one that I was probably

728
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,800
laughing the most at. Uh and
like there was humor throat throughout the season,

729
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,440
but I don't know, there's just
a lot of shocking moments that I

730
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,840
think I was expecting. Justin Hammer
was such a pleasure and a delight.

731
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,920
I truly love that character for for
what he is, and yeah, I

732
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:25,280
what's the actor named Sam Rock?
Was Sam rockwell Thunderbolts, Armor Wars,

733
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,719
Ironheart, Like, he's gotta be
in one of these. It's gotta be,

734
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,599
you know, come on. But
like Taylor said, like him just

735
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,800
doing his dance and everything. I
was just it was great. It's been

736
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,679
a it's been a drought without him
in the some for some Hammertech. They

737
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,320
have no problems with the multiverse.
You know, screw Kang switch Kang with

738
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,840
justin Hammer We're cooking. You know, he's a multiverse dynasty. Yeah,

739
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,000
that's a sick title. That also
sounds like a super right wing group dynasty.

740
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:57,480
Like it's like, oh, I
don't know if I want to go

741
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,480
there for Christmas, but they could
write that in who Knows? But yeah,

742
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,840
no, this was This was a
really fun time. The freak all

743
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,079
all that stuff was was was really
really fun and like you said, just

744
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:14,480
like the the little the little glimpses
of like different Christmas movies and stuff throughout.

745
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:22,079
It was hilarious just seeing like something
like Steve and Tony like at the

746
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,079
mall, like just doing like their
San and the Elf and all the moms

747
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:29,320
or like this thirst and over Steve. That was hilarious. So yeah,

748
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,880
this was this was a big surprise
for me. I think I would definitely

749
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,719
was predicting this one to be a
little bit lower on my on my list,

750
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,519
but it just kept creeping up there, kept creeping up. Yeah,

751
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:40,519
I don't think I've much had to
be on what you guys said. But

752
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:45,119
I also thought it was a very
just fun time. You know, one

753
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,440
character, what's her name, Darcy
is her name, right, who's in

754
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,599
this She's a character I'm surprised as
popped up as much as she has,

755
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,480
yeah, post whatever early Tower stuff, you know, popping up in WandaVision

756
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,840
and then being here again. You
know, not too much say about her.

757
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960
She's just fun to have a little
along for the ride. But yeah,

758
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,119
honestly, I think you guys kind
of covered it, but I agree

759
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,599
with you. This is just a
fun time and yeah, a good surprise,

760
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,719
and also like, yeah, what's
happy to do in these days?

761
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,320
Because he's like hanging out in some
Spider Man stuff every once in a while,

762
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,920
but yeah, that's that's pretty much
it these days. So it was

763
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,119
fun to have him back and have
them kind of center stage. And then

764
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,000
I don't know, there's like a
sequel ish to this part of this character.

765
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,039
But it's like, it's not the
same Happy. I'm a little confused.

766
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:29,079
We'll talk about that. But that
was also a thing. I agree

767
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,519
with you. It's a weird line
to draw, but yeah, I imagine

768
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:35,559
the same thing we would have to
see Happy and iron Heart or Armor Wars,

769
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,079
which arm War is not happening.
I'm just telling you now. So

770
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,039
I feel like he has to appear
in Ironheart, right, like it's Ironman's

771
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:45,719
tack possibly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a TV show,

772
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,000
right, so why not? Why
not? You can pop in for an

773
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,400
episode and he's only directing bad seasons
in the Mandalorian, right, Yeah,

774
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,239
I feel like he's doing so much
so I don't know, I feel like

775
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,400
he's pretty Yeah, I'm joking.
He's a busy guy. So but you

776
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:04,840
gain this with the thumbs Dylan one
Christmas thumb up, thumb and half for

777
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,480
me two thumbs, two thumbs,
like just hammer look at that. Uh,

778
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,320
And now we get an episode that
was like three four years in the

779
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,840
making, was supposed to be with
one of season one but didn't happen.

780
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,960
What if Ironmen crashed into the Grand
Master, which is a weird title because

781
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,320
it should say Cikar or met the
grand Master because he didn't, you know

782
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:29,360
whatever, but uh. In twenty
twelve, Tony Stark saves New York City

783
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,599
by rejecting the missile towards the Shitari
mothership, but the wormhole closes just before

784
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,880
he get back to Earth, this
leading to him landing on Sakar and is

785
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,440
forced to stay by its ruler,
the grand Master. Stark interferes in a

786
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,559
death race to save one of the
racer's Cork, and encounters Gomora, who

787
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:52,119
was sent by Fast to kill Stark
for stopping the Shatur invasion. After this,

788
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,920
they imprisoned Gomora's Stark. There's a
deal made. They it's very death

789
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,360
race and stuff like that. Fast
and furious. They make their deal where

790
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,320
it's like, you don't to be
a ruler. If you lose, you

791
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,639
have to be the guy you're gonna
be just stuck here for I don't know

792
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,239
ever. Whatever. It's something like
that. He gets a suit, all

793
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,679
right, he gets a suit.
Yeah, that too, so and then

794
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,639
they have a race. Somehow Gamore
of Valkyrie and Stark finding and Cork find

795
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:22,639
a way to overcome all this.
Grand Master gets melted and they Iron Man

796
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,519
and Gamore team up to go see
Thanos, which looks like it's Gamora taking

797
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:29,360
that or stark in, but it's
not. It's a big trick to kill

798
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,719
Thanos, and we are assuming he
got melted. So, uh, Dylan,

799
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,679
what do you think about this episode? That was, yeah, originally

800
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,079
intended for last season, but they
just couldn't get it done in time,

801
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,800
which I appreciate them not rushing.
So yeah, I'm trying to think back

802
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,199
to when we covered the trailers and
some called the episode titles a couple months

803
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:51,039
ago. Did we know that that
was the setup for this episode, that

804
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:52,559
that was like the ending of the
Avengers? But no, we just knew

805
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,519
he landed on the car because to
me, that's like a prime what if

806
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,920
scenario, right, That's exact thing
we want to see more of. Yes,

807
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,880
and I'd love if I could just
quickly come up with a bunch of

808
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,400
examples, but I'm sure there's tons
of moments like that were just you know,

809
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:08,760
ten seconds different from a big classic
MCU moment changes so much and then

810
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,840
obviously they kind of just like make
them both through a wormhole and pop on

811
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,760
a cicar. So this is not
really a whole lot of logic, but

812
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,800
I didn't really care. It was
still just like what could be this scenario?

813
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,960
And then but then it's also like
another one if of just what if

814
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,400
another character had popped up in Ciicar
other than I guess when Thor and Hulk

815
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,559
were there. So it works kind
of two ways, and in that way,

816
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,800
it was just a super fun fantasy
episode in that way, just having

817
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,119
that scenario. So I really liked
it. And yeah, you know,

818
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,840
I'm I'm sick of Corg he was
here some more, but you know,

819
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,800
I'm not sick of his grandmaster.
I'm sure at some point that humor will

820
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,079
be grading and I'll be sick of
it maybe in years and years to come,

821
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,760
but so far not really. And
was it actually Goldbloom? I could

822
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,000
never tell with yes it was,
it was. Yeah, So I just

823
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:57,960
his delivery, the jokes, like
almost every single one of them worked.

824
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,599
They had like the goog their joking
about the gou Wan thing again, but

825
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:04,559
like all of it was funny to
me. I just I loved it.

826
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:08,960
And yeah, we don't really see
a lot of racing or I don't know,

827
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,679
vehicle action. I guess in the
MCU like a couple times you'll get

828
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,599
like a bike chase or something.
But it was fun to have this kind

829
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:22,440
of Mad Max sort of death race
thing going on to I think the Gomora

830
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,400
part is maybe the weakest angle of
this episode for me. You get some

831
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,079
good stuff between her and Iron Man, but it just feels like it takes

832
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,599
a back seater. It takes too
long to get to the interesting bits.

833
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:34,760
So it's fine. It doesn't really
detract from me. It just didn't really

834
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,440
add a whole lot. Like I
feel like you could have easily changed a

835
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,199
couple plot points here and written her
out and it wouldn't really affected my enjoyment

836
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,719
much. But overall, man,
I had so much fun with this.

837
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,079
The car is such a weirdo freak
plan and I like going there. So

838
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:50,360
yeah, this is a definitely a
top tier episode for me. I'll go

839
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,119
just because I want to jump off
something you said there. It's so weird

840
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,199
that because they're like, oh,
you don't know Gamora from the you know,

841
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,679
last season she was in the Guardians
of the Multiverse, but here's your

842
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,719
story, and it doesn't like if
I recall all the other Guardians, they

843
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,480
all have like an episode where they
were the main character. Then they joined

844
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,559
the team. This episode does not
feel like Gamore is the main character.

845
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:12,360
It feels like they should be recruiting
Tony for the team. Like yeah,

846
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,480
so I was like, okay,
I was just surprised, Like I don't

847
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,159
mind, like I think Tony,
even if he's not voiced by Danny great

848
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,880
character is fun. So I was
very surprised how little Goamura was actually in

849
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,760
it and how much of a role, Like, of course she has a

850
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,840
pivotal role in two moments, but
I thought it'd be much bigger. So

851
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,280
I was very confused. So maybe
that's why two when they felt we don't

852
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,039
need have it for neck like the
finale, it makes sense now because it's

853
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,239
like Gamore just pops up and she's
there, and obviously she killed Danos.

854
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,360
It's like, okay, cool,
But I'm curious if they like made a

855
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,559
change somewhere along the lines, like
because they did know that it wasn't gonna

856
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,320
be ready for last season, like
ah well, let's just do the Tony

857
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:53,360
things. Even even the Watcher does
say like she originates in someone else's story,

858
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,000
so like it very much is the
Tony story. It's not like till

859
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,760
the end that it's really her dethroning. Yeah, because tights Dan so Yeah,

860
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,840
but yeah, liked Dylan's point the
racing. I think it's kind of

861
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,920
like what I wished with the nebla
thing where I wish there was more noir.

862
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,800
This was like, Okay, this
is like you know, pod racing,

863
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:12,599
fast, furious death bracers like this
section shirt, It's like, okay,

864
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,880
this is like has like a different
vibe to it. And yeah,

865
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,679
I can't say enough about grand Master
live action even here. The good thing

866
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,920
is like, to me, when
we watch Michael Douglas's ant Man, it

867
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,480
does just feel like he has a
script and he's just reading those lines to

868
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,079
Mike like there's no soul there where
Jeff Gold like this feels like the grand

869
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:34,679
Master. He's so funny and kooky, and I like, I just need

870
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,159
that character back. We need maybe
him Hammer. We took to get a

871
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:43,000
bunch of these weirdos together and like
get get rid of you know, task

872
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,559
Master gets really like put some of
the like get grand Master with Florence p.

873
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Let's see what happens, you know, But I don't know what he

874
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,559
do to the team. But no, it was even when he melts his

875
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:54,159
good So no, this this this
was one For some reason, I had

876
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:58,679
really no anticipation for It's almost like
I wrote it off because like, oh,

877
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,760
was season one and they delay it
had that stories like whatever. But

878
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,639
I ended up enjoying it a lot
more than I thought. It's very much

879
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:07,400
like the Happy Hogan one where I
just kind of had, oh, this

880
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,559
will probably be like, especially because
it was season one as well too.

881
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,679
I think this had more of a
season two quality to it. So I

882
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:15,559
wonder if this was in season one
it would have felt even better for just

883
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:20,000
the overall show. But uh,
yeah, No, I enjoyed seeing this

884
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,000
is LIKEDL said, this is what
if I want, We're perfect when it

885
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,559
was like, oh what if the
portal clothes is like, oh shit,

886
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Like that's such a cool idea,
like what happens next? So no,

887
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:32,000
I really enjoyed this one, you
know, barring a few even Valkyri,

888
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:35,039
she was good, but the same
thing, like not in it too much.

889
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,239
I like it was more just Stark
and Cork, like those were the

890
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,199
main with Grand Master. So I
was chuckling at the end of this when

891
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,039
Valkyrie just kind of becomes King of
Cigar. Yeah, because it reminded me

892
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:50,719
of the moment in Wakanda forever We've
talked about a lot where like in Baku

893
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,119
took me and Travis at least it
felt just like a throwaway line of like,

894
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,639
wait, sorry, in Baku is
King of Bonda. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:00,159
but uh, for Valkyrie here,
I mean, because it's a what

896
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,519
if scenario and it's just some random
universe in Cicar doesn't really impact me in

897
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,760
the way that does for Wakanda.
But yeah, that was a funny moment.

898
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,039
And like you said too, this
is a type one too where I

899
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:14,199
would even like a follow up where
it's if you follow the same trajector.

900
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,280
I don't know if you would,
but Okay, if Hawk lands there,

901
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,280
now, what happens? If Thor
lands there, now, what happens low?

902
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,119
You know, like it's completely different. It's not a Dictatorships. I

903
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:23,480
don't know. Yeah, what happens
with iron Man at the end of See

904
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:27,480
Leave or is he still there at
the well he goes with? Yeah,

905
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,079
I think the idea is because they
talk about pay I think it's just to

906
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:32,480
get him back home, right,
so I would assume that he gets back

907
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:38,400
on Earth, so right right?
Uh? Yeah, I really like this

908
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:45,000
episode. I think the whole racing
the death race dynamic was was just really

909
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,119
fun. I feel like, I
don't know, that's not normally like my

910
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:51,360
movie archetype that I'm feasting for,
but this one was just it just really

911
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,519
worked. The car is just so
strange. It fits that like pod racing

912
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:58,599
type style where everyone has like a
different style of ship. I like the

913
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:05,039
giant hologram of Master just just patiently
waiting to allow them to go. And

914
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:08,159
then when he's racing, he just
completely scumbags, which I would definitely,

915
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,840
uh, you know, expect from
him. His car has all the gadgets.

916
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,159
Like that was that was lots of
fun, I agree with. I

917
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,719
think it was Dylan that said,
like the Gamor stuff seemed pretty back burnery,

918
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,559
like it wasn't too much in the
U like the highlight of this episode

919
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:23,800
by any means, So that stuff
kind of fell short for me. But

920
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:30,920
still just her trying to hunt down
Stark, like throughout all this chaos was

921
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,280
it was a fun enough like a
threat even though it wasn't a big threat

922
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,039
by any means. It seemed like
but like, at no point in this

923
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,920
episode was I worried for Tony or
anything. It just seemed like it was

924
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,639
gonna work out. Maybe it was
just like the lightheartedness of or the light

925
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,880
yeah, the light hardness feel of
the episode overall, but it was still

926
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,480
it was still lots of fun.
I was definitely laughing at Grandmaster and uh

927
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,800
just just cork on on on the
crew for sure, and just putting Tony

928
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,880
in this in this situation where like
you guys have already mentioned like it just

929
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,760
this one seems like the most fitting
of the what ifs, where like he's

930
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,440
just fading back to Earth and then
the portal just barely closes before he gets

931
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,280
there, and then it's just immediately
on that adventure from like taking from that

932
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,559
big moment of Avengers. It was
cool to see it there. So yeah,

933
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,360
I don't think it's the top tier
or the bottom tier for me by

934
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,320
any means, so somewhere in the
middle, which is a pretty nice place

935
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,679
to sit on the season overall,
because it's just really strong season. Yeah,

936
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,920
I think this is a really really
good example of just what if portal

937
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:47,760
closes? I mean, I never
I never pitch what if. This is

938
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,199
just the story I was I was
unexpecting. I was I thought it was

939
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:57,239
going to be more Gamora centric.
And and focused, and yeah, just

940
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,159
getting to really be like in on
Tony Stark landing on the car and just

941
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:05,239
his kind of adventure and the whole
racing theme that was thrown in there too.

942
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,400
I caught me by surprise, but
I really really enjoyed it. And

943
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:12,800
yeah, just the Grandmaster. He
he's just he's leazy, as you guys

944
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,360
already talked about, and it's just
fun to see him kind of make appear

945
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,239
back. And they were again,
like I was saying with Hammer, they

946
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:23,440
were emphasizing those those small minute things
that people might just be meming off with,

947
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:27,199
like it's my birthday. It's my
birthday. He's just like riding that

948
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,079
the whole episode. And yeah,
so that was that was quite some fun.

949
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,480
And yeah, again we get some
familiar characters, and it just that

950
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,360
set up at the end of Just
Tony, before the setup of him going

951
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,039
to kill Finals with the Kamora,
when he gets in and into the ship

952
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,719
and he's just talking like, oh, Pepper Potts, like I'm coming Pepper.

953
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,760
It was a weird like moment where
I thought, like that would be

954
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,400
crazy if he the portal closed,
but maybe Earth got fucked up. And

955
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,840
then I just went and destroyed it
anyways, and he gets back and like

956
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Earth is destroyed. That would have
been a very wild scenario, but obviously

957
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:04,920
like a war. Almost like a
war, but all those space and then

958
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,559
when he comes back ever, half
the people are gone, right, Well,

959
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:12,280
that's true. It's it's crazy just
to think that this what if scenario

960
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,400
exists where you lose three Avengers movies
and a whole bunch of spin offs.

961
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,320
This movie, this what if episode
alone probably eliminates what like how many like

962
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:27,719
thirty MCU films? Well hopeful that
far because because there thirty four films,

963
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,079
I think I think we're just that's
that's Captain America, incredible, Hulk,

964
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,199
I met one, Guardians one,
two, and three, Well don't happen,

965
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:42,039
no one once we get yeah,
there you go. Why wouldn't Captain

966
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,519
America happen? He's still in this
that happens everything pre Avengers one would happen.

967
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:50,800
Everything else would be totally different.
Yes, maybe I think Ultron still

968
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,039
happens because Tony is a bitch like
that. It's like, all we got

969
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:57,000
to put a suit around the armor, so Guardians wouldn't because with the stones

970
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,480
for fantos and that changes a suit
of arm around the world. Yeah,

971
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:04,320
Guardian of the Suit was around the
armor. But I think Ultron and Avengers

972
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,800
probably still happens in a similar sort
of way. You know, they don't

973
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,199
have Loki staff though, because Loki
wouldn't. Oh no, they would,

974
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,519
they they would get the stone.
It still happens. I think they would

975
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:22,199
Altron happen, and plus Kang or
somebody still coming, right, so some

976
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:24,599
would happened. But yeah, maybe
they were still live though, right,

977
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,800
Kang gets to fight down and everything. So the focus stone, though in

978
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,960
the staff focused, Yes, it's
the most important stone, threw off their

979
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,280
calculations that a servant would still be
alive. Right the mouth of Souran guy,

980
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:53,559
Yeah, he's gonna be the guy
that leads you are here, wasn't

981
01:00:53,559 --> 01:01:00,320
in pain? Oh, I can't
wait two days. We're gonna you are

982
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:07,880
Lord of the Rings trilogy. Watch
that. Anything else, I'll just quickly

983
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,880
shout out the I really like Tony's
vehicle that he has in like the first

984
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,639
races, like the Halo Chopper pretty
much, which is just like these two

985
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,480
huge wheels in the front and then
like a little seat in the back for

986
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:22,679
him. So I like that.
And then I also liked his kind of

987
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:28,239
Transformers inspired suit race car. That
was fun as well. I really like

988
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,840
how when he finishes, goes to
the finish line and then like breaks,

989
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:34,559
does like a bit of a drift
and then just flies into the suit,

990
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,079
like come on, that's so cool. So uh yeah, all that was

991
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,440
really good and I love that joke
at the end when Grandmaster's melting, He's

992
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,599
like, ooh, Viscus give me
a bucket, Like yeah, so good.

993
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,800
I like the like the fake out
too, and they give him like

994
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,000
this like chariot vehicle, but then
he has like you know, on the

995
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,599
final right, it's a way to
get there, so some cool, some

996
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:59,480
cool Arman tech stuff just to show
a one quick thing. When Gimore was

997
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,559
using that like melter tool on Thanos, like for brief minute, it didn't

998
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:07,559
look like it was actually doing anything, don't right, Yeah. I think

999
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,599
she maybe like hit the armor first
and then hit his body or something.

1000
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:14,000
I think so, which would be
more than enough time for Fantals to counteract.

1001
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:15,840
But I think he was. I
think he does melt because I think

1002
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:21,960
they establish Gamore if I'm remembering in
the finale of what if She killed Thanals?

1003
01:02:22,039 --> 01:02:23,800
Right, So I think she did
take him out, So yeah,

1004
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,079
maybe that that's their verse. It
doesn't work and it just kills Gamora and

1005
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:31,480
Tony Stark right there. So yeah, there is Aron. Yeah, it's

1006
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:37,159
a lot worse thanos comes, like
a lot earlier, with no tone with

1007
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:42,360
the weapon. He's got the fucking
Melter weapon. Yeah, he didn't even

1008
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,400
need the Gauntlet in the mcconie.
Should just have the Melter and everybody be

1009
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,679
fucking done. I would double have
any MCU films we'd have, so instead

1010
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:51,599
of thirty four being like sixty four, Yeah, Fantas is still around too.

1011
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,400
They haven't beat him yap. Yeah, yeah, I'll take that that

1012
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:57,599
universe instead, or we get double
the movies. Yeah, they're waiting for

1013
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:01,000
a secret invasion to take him down, you know. So thumb and half

1014
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:09,079
for me, I'll quiver it a
big old juicy Sakarian thumb. One thumb,

1015
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,440
I'll go a thumb and a half
the one half, all right?

1016
01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:19,159
What if Captain Carter fought the hydra
Stumper. Captain Peggy Carter and Natasha Romaff

1017
01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:22,480
finds Steve Rogers inside a hydro stumper. They also skipped over the part where

1018
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,199
Peggy's part of the Avengers. They're
just they've pretty much it's the exact same

1019
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:29,840
to Winter Soldier. A briefing from
Nick Fury leads Roam out to deduce at

1020
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,239
Rogers, who went missing in nineteen
fifty three, was brainwashed by the Red

1021
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Room. From this point on,
they meet you know, there's a Bucky

1022
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,159
Barnes' old senator. Now they meet
Steve. They think they can fix him

1023
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:44,400
and whatnot. Secretly, No,
he's still in control of the Red Room.

1024
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,960
From the Black Widow movie, you
get Natalia what's her name, Lena

1025
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,960
Melina, Natasha's you know, adoptive
mother. She's leading the Red Room now.

1026
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,719
And you know, so it's pretty
much like Hydra and the Russia like

1027
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,840
Red Room, like they've all like
combined their source. So it's very much

1028
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,119
like you get Winter Soldier in the
Black Widow movie, which is funny because

1029
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,760
Black Widow Movie, to me,
it's just like a carbon not carbon cop

1030
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:12,000
but it's pretty similar. So yeah, that's pretty much it. It's false

1031
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,880
things a Winter Soldier. I think
what I liked is it wasn't a complete

1032
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,159
carbon copy where Peggan Carter the first
episode, where like last season was literally

1033
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:23,920
just a Captain American movie but with
Peggy. This was some differences of Okay,

1034
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,199
the Red Room getting in a lot
earlier. I loved the setup of

1035
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:30,920
the nuclear site. I liked a
lot of the action going on there.

1036
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,000
I liked the flip of you know, of course, it's very similar Steve

1037
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,360
being the one that's been in water. I actually liked Bucky being like the

1038
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,639
older center because yeah, at first
time, Sam like, who is this?

1039
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,360
Like? Okay, so I enjoyed. I think it's more the meddling

1040
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,480
tear. I usually just in general, like Peggy Carter. I liked the

1041
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:53,079
team of Peggy Carter and Black Widow, so I enjoyed this. There was

1042
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:58,360
some repetition, but I think this
was a It worked on the action set

1043
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,559
pieces and uh yeah, I good
time with this one. Yeah. The

1044
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,840
biggest success for this episode for me
is that I just love Captain Carter and

1045
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,199
Black Widow is like a really fun
duo like that. After watching this,

1046
01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:11,760
I'm like, man, I just
want a live action movie of this.

1047
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,960
And I don't know how I would
work with timelines and characters, survival states

1048
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,800
and whatnot, but I don't care. I still want it in some way

1049
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,559
somehow. I guess this is where
I'm gonna get it is the one if

1050
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,360
scenarios instead, But yeah, I
really really love that duo obviously, because

1051
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Captain America and Black would have such
a great connection too, so it's fun

1052
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,079
to see like just a slight variation
on that too. And yeah, what

1053
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:31,840
you said Travis, of like,
I really kept Carter in the first season,

1054
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,400
but that episode, like the plot
of it wasn't really the most engaging,

1055
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,239
but this is a lot a lot
more fun to me. I love

1056
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,800
the nuke Town setting. I thought
it was super fun, and yeah,

1057
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,639
to get a little bit of that
black widow flavor in there with the Molina

1058
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:47,000
and all that crew, I thought
it was fun as well. So I

1059
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,800
liked all the the action in there. I think maybe this episode's like a

1060
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,599
bit too long, like you can
probably shave off five minutes, just like

1061
01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:56,679
some of the battles go on for
a very long time. But yeah,

1062
01:05:56,719 --> 01:06:00,599
I don't know. Just I really
like this character of Peggy Carter. We're

1063
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,480
gonna see a lot more for the
season obviously, So yeah, just character

1064
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:05,599
that I'm really vibing with. And
I had a good time with stepisode as

1065
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:11,800
well. Yeah, I enjoyed this
one. I completely agree with you guys

1066
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,320
saying, like the dynamic between Captain
Carter and Black Widow was so fun,

1067
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,320
and this episode, it seems like
they're not just there to like help out

1068
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,760
the other person like they eat.
They each kind of have their ties,

1069
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:26,760
like Captain Carter with the hydro stuff
and then obviously Black Widow with the whole

1070
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,679
Red Room thing. It seemed like
they had like their own threats to deal

1071
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:31,559
with, but it was like just
going along together. So it just fit

1072
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:36,599
really well. They had great chemistry
back and forth. And I don't know,

1073
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:41,599
I just I'm such a sucker for
the whole Steve and Peggy thing.

1074
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,840
It doesn't matter if it's Steve and
the Captain America or if it doesn't matter

1075
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:50,320
if it's it's like Captain Carter.
Man, my brain fought there. There

1076
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,880
you go. It doesn't matter who's
who, it doesn't matter who has the

1077
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,119
shield. I just love that dynamic. It seems like they're always losing out

1078
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:02,119
on that relationship. It doesn't matter
what universe it is. And they definitely,

1079
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,960
I mean even in an episode later
on, like they just really touch

1080
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:09,239
upon that, like the tear on
the heart string sort of thing. So

1081
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:12,400
I thought this episode had that as
well, and yeah, some good action.

1082
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:15,159
Definitely loved the nuke Town setting that
was great, and yeah, just

1083
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:21,519
overall it was it was very solid
episode. I was really surprised to just

1084
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:27,360
kind of get all these Black Widow
kind of like things coming back into play

1085
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,719
here. That was just very interesting
and just kind of see how like you

1086
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:33,440
said, Travis, Hydra and the
Red Room Rush is just kind of like

1087
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,599
molded and meshed into one. I
always like seeing Captain Carter. I feel

1088
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:41,639
like it's good to see her shine
here after she just got fucking bopped in

1089
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,719
Wanda Multi thank you. Yeah,
I wish they never did that as much

1090
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,519
as I was all cool with them
doing the killing all the cameos, but

1091
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:53,760
maybe they should just left that one
out because now she's grown. Yeah it's

1092
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,360
not the same Captain Carter, but
it's still like, you know, it's

1093
01:07:57,559 --> 01:08:00,320
just they're trying to put her on
like a top tier status. Yeah,

1094
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,519
but overall, the newke Town setting
very freaky, very creepy, and I

1095
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:11,760
liked how Steve was just he was
a bait and he was just pretending.

1096
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,400
I felt like that was a very
different change up from Bucky. Because you're

1097
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,479
right, Travis, it is very
Winter Soldier esque Captain America Winter Soldier movie

1098
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,039
asque. And so when Steve just
changes like, hey, like, oh,

1099
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,239
we did never have that dance or
that date or whatever he's saying,

1100
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:30,720
and I just I like how Natasha
was apprehensive about it. But it was

1101
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,119
just a cool twist of events.
And so when you kind of get to

1102
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:40,479
the the conclusion the fight and you
get I can't remember Melana was her name,

1103
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,079
right, and Natasha's adoptor mother.
Yeah, when all the other black

1104
01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:47,359
widows are fighting Natasha and Lena's just
commenting like, oh, go for,

1105
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,560
go for like she heard it in
third grade. It's like, I'm getting

1106
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:56,039
so pissed if this person's just calling
out your weakness as you're fighting. It

1107
01:08:56,079 --> 01:09:02,880
was really a voice actress soul.
Yeah happened. I was laughing really hard

1108
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:09,239
though, because just when the before
I was laughing, just that sentimental moment

1109
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:14,119
between uh, Peggy and Steve,
and Steve just he doesn't really say anything,

1110
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:15,279
but he knows he has to do
and he just flies up to just

1111
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:20,920
destroy the Red Room. And then
Natasha just amazing fucking accuracy, like like

1112
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,039
you're doing that Striker's shot and you're
trying to go for the charge shot and

1113
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:27,680
you get like the blue and the
blue on that first fucking mark, and

1114
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:33,920
she does it and she loses the
grappling strikers yeah in the eyes, so

1115
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:39,119
like I thought she was gonna grapple
onto the hydro stopper and then I just

1116
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:44,920
Molina's screamed. Just I was laughing
because she's just fucking flailing. Nothing she

1117
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,439
could do, and she just goes
down. At that point, even if

1118
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:53,319
you like get out of it,
you're just gonna fall, Like would you

1119
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,720
rather fall like five hundred feet or
going to the exploding ship? I feel

1120
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,239
like I still take the fall.
Exploding ship would be I think instant because

1121
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,159
at least to just be explodes.
What happens if you get there and it

1122
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,159
shoots you to like aside the ship
and you're like they're burning alive, Like

1123
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:08,800
that's my worry. Where the fall? You know, you're instantly dead,

1124
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,119
right, but you might not and
you might break your legs and your body

1125
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:15,399
and your yeah, and then the
fire lance on you. Yeah. Yeah,

1126
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:17,479
that's the worst. That's the worst. Yeah, you fall, you

1127
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:23,039
don't die, like you're looking like
altver and then goldenyere like oh and the

1128
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:27,239
things crashes on them, Like that's
to do what happened? I just pictured

1129
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:31,920
an Avengers tower like Vision and Black
Wedd just having Gangbusters Strikers matches because she's

1130
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,760
the best, and like he's a
computer, so he's just adapt all this.

1131
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,680
So they're just there for hours,
just duking it out like a best

1132
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,079
of fifty. That's the what if
scenario I want to see first episode of

1133
01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:45,159
next season. Yeah. Everyone,
everyone's like, oh, they make a

1134
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:48,840
huge announcement, like guess what Nintendo's
partner with Disney to do what. Everyone's

1135
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:54,119
like, oh my god, what
they're gonna do? And it's just Strikers.

1136
01:10:54,279 --> 01:10:57,880
Yeah, just like it's just fucking
bullshit. Like I thought that's tournament

1137
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,119
because then they can have like,
you know, kill Monker in there he

1138
01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:03,159
plays around. Oh yeah, everyone
ned, I bet that would be really

1139
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:08,319
good and have a feeling, you
know, he's got something there. Chair

1140
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,079
there'sn't a good brand butter who would
be good at it? We should do

1141
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:15,560
a who would win a Striker?
Yeah, a twenty seed tournament? Who's

1142
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,039
in it and who would win it? You know, like Visions of Cheek.

1143
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:21,720
He would just like hack into the
main frame. Just yeah, then

1144
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,600
the Quicksilver he could be really good
because like he might not be good,

1145
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,760
but he has enough time to like, you know, just really line up

1146
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,520
those shots and we see him player
games and the movies. True, yeah,

1147
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,640
so fun. A good episode of
do Hulk for sure is not Bruce

1148
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:44,560
Hulk, No, not not no. Steve Rogers would be horrible. What's

1149
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,720
this? I'll always be so kind
to like past you guys. He'd be

1150
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,600
down. He'd be like me and
dim in the cord match, like,

1151
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,279
oh great game, you know,
like he wouldn't be pissed about it all.

1152
01:11:54,319 --> 01:11:56,520
He's like, oh, what a
fun what a fun time, you

1153
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,560
know, fun time. Oh yeah, Taylor. I was also laughing at

1154
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,079
that part, not because of Melna
going off into the sky, but because

1155
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,439
like I love the Hulkbusters to like
the Mark one Iron Man outfit, like

1156
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,399
it's it's sick, but it always
reminds me of the Iron Giant and when

1157
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,000
he just flies off into the sky, I just I just thought of that

1158
01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:19,920
last scene an Iron Giant be who
you want to be? Whatever the fuck

1159
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:26,720
the line I am Superman. Yeah, oh that's what it is. You

1160
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,319
are who you choose to be Superman. I just I laughed out loud watching

1161
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:43,399
that because it's like the exact same
thing, but Steve saying thumb up for

1162
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:50,439
me, same thumb and a half. I came in there. Episode six,

1163
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:57,159
What if Carhari I helped reshaped the
world after sort of destroys Ashgar during

1164
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:00,840
ragnar Rock, the Testra crash lands
in a lake in a pre colonized America,

1165
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,880
giving it magical properties. Numerous tribes
people disappear while interacting with the lake,

1166
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:10,079
which become known as the Forbidden Lake. In the fifteenth century, a

1167
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:15,880
young Mohawk woman Kari, and her
brother Wahati are hunted by the Spanish conquidors

1168
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:23,319
and fall into this lake, discovering
something that is a mysterious there's like eight

1169
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:35,920
more sense two months to go first, I'll take it here. I so

1170
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,880
obviously we knew this episode is coming. This is gonna be like the introduction

1171
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:44,680
of a new character or character that
I am not personally familiar with, a

1172
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,199
new character. No completely okay,
okay, yeah, new to Marvel overall.

1173
01:13:48,399 --> 01:13:53,439
Yeah, very very interesting. So
I mean in terms of because of

1174
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,920
that, you know, you do
get a lot of origin story stuff,

1175
01:13:56,039 --> 01:13:59,600
and a lot of this episode doesn't
really feel like I really what if scenario

1176
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,760
just feel like, I guess this
is where they chose to do this origin

1177
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,039
story for the character. So that's
kind of an interesting choice. Well,

1178
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:09,319
sorry, the what if is the
test tract. I think that's the only

1179
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:11,800
whatf company I know, But that's
what I mean where it just feels like,

1180
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Okay, that's that's how it if
we came up with some hair brain

1181
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:24,439
scheme to create this vide because you
could have the test rack, you could

1182
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,239
have it drop at any moment in
this I get like, and it's not

1183
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:30,600
even like the test rakt falls.
It's just like the test ract put power

1184
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,960
into this lake and it's just like
floating in space or something. So like,

1185
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,119
it's the way like Captain Marvel was
like the First Avenger because her fucking

1186
01:14:38,119 --> 01:14:41,079
flight set, like her plan set
of danger, right, Like you could

1187
01:14:41,079 --> 01:14:43,520
bring in the MC and be like, oh, you didn't hear this tale

1188
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,800
of the test ract doing something.
So yeah, Taylor, you're right.

1189
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,960
But it's like it's in the way
that we're talking about the Tony Stark episode.

1190
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:51,920
How that's like an interesting what if
scenario? This is just feels like,

1191
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,279
Okay, I guess technically that is
a what if scenario that could exist

1192
01:14:57,319 --> 01:15:00,439
but no one would ever would have
predicted it to happen, So so yeah,

1193
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,720
you know, because of that,
like like I was saying all that

1194
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,880
to get us the point where,
yeah, like this is an origin story

1195
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,920
for the most part, and because
of that, it's kind of like boring

1196
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,399
in an origin story sort of way. But other than that, like it

1197
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,319
is, it is a fine enough
episode. The story itself is pretty basic.

1198
01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:18,920
This group of people teaming up against
these bad guys and they take them

1199
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,039
out and whatnot. So yeah,
it's it's nothing that's blowing my mind by

1200
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:26,239
any means. But I also didn't
hate it. It was just I guess

1201
01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:30,760
I'm very neutral on the episode overall. There's really not much more for me

1202
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,279
to say, Like there isn't any
big characters from the rest of the like

1203
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:38,399
the Greater MCU, that are represented
here. It's more of a a kind

1204
01:15:38,399 --> 01:15:42,079
of just one off scenario. So
it was interesting enough, but not blowing

1205
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:45,000
my mind. I'll go because I'm
pretty in line with Dylan, I'm like,

1206
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,520
that's where I am. I thought
that was fine. I think it

1207
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,760
shares very similar elements to Black Panther
and being sung sheh, where it's like,

1208
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,439
oh there's a hidden community that doesn't
want to go out to the greater

1209
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,960
world because what could happen X Y
and Z. It's like we've seen that

1210
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,720
beat before. I liked the character
enough, but I was not in the

1211
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,079
bad way. We're a lot to
be like, oh, this is the

1212
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:08,720
best episode, Like I I appreciate
what it does culture wise, and I

1213
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,840
think that's the two things I'll bring
up here that were at one was like

1214
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,079
a real life disconnect for me,
and then one was a critique disconnect.

1215
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,159
All the all works. I think
the action set piece at the end is

1216
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:21,279
really cool when you know, she
gets hit by a cannon and they look

1217
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:25,520
at the woods and all like the
eyes probably like oh, that's really cool,

1218
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,640
and like there's this action sequence of
score. So it's like the third

1219
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,399
act battle that to me was the
highlight. There's two things. So one

1220
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,520
when she falls in this lake right
away she gotta get back and like all

1221
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,199
you can't go back into their kind
of teaching in the ways I think I

1222
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,279
didn't like that. There's a lot
of and thos. People say it's the

1223
01:16:41,359 --> 01:16:43,880
MCU, but there's a lot of
like her joke in or like having a

1224
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,159
good time, but she thinks like
her people up there are getting slaughtered and

1225
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:49,319
then she's just kind of like having
a breezy go So that bugged me.

1226
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:53,159
And then a real life thing,
which was kind of disappointing, and I

1227
01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:57,119
hope they do something like this like
Pray where Pray they had the English version

1228
01:16:57,279 --> 01:17:00,680
and then they had a Native American
version or whichever they want to classified as

1229
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,720
they don't know what is a Disney
plus excuse me if that's not what it

1230
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,880
is. That was the issue where
the second it was about two minutes in,

1231
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:12,960
it kind of cuts off its audience
for a young people because Gwenn and

1232
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,560
Logan could not enjoy this episode because
they weren't gonna listen to me the whole

1233
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,920
time, like read out the whole
thing. So I thought, oh,

1234
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,159
this would be cool for them to
see a different culture, because I don't

1235
01:17:21,159 --> 01:17:25,199
think they've seen much like I think
they've watched Man Pocons, but it's not

1236
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,920
one that's really spoken to them.
So I thought, oh, this will

1237
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,319
be cool because even it's a new
character, female led you know, different

1238
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:32,880
rays, different backstory, different orgin
like, oh, this would be great,

1239
01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:36,319
but that kind of secluded them away, and I thought it was kind

1240
01:17:36,359 --> 01:17:40,000
of odd. That they did that, especially when we get this character a

1241
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,640
couple episodes later and she's just speaking
English, like just full on English.

1242
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,840
So I wish there was like The
Prey where they did both versions because I

1243
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,800
was excited for them to watch it, and then they just left because I

1244
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,720
couldn't blame them because they're these characters
are saying stuff they can't understand. So

1245
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,159
I thought that was kind of kind
of a mistake on their part, especially

1246
01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:59,920
if this is a character they do
want to do a comic of or bring

1247
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:01,600
them in. You want that to
grow out, and it would kind of

1248
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,399
be like if we met Miles Morales
but he only spoke Spanish. It'd be

1249
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,720
great for the culture and the representation, but my girls wouldn't have the same

1250
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,880
attachment to what Miles that they do
now, right, So I thought that

1251
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,600
was kind of a miss on a
production value to not have an option or

1252
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,399
have the full episode that way.
But over I thought it was like a

1253
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,199
good episode, but it's not anything
that I'll be returning to a bunch,

1254
01:18:23,239 --> 01:18:26,520
and I like the character enough,
you know, So yeah, I was

1255
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,880
curious how that was gonna go with
your your little ones, Yeah, because

1256
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,199
that's how went too they're out,
you know, so I had to go.

1257
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,119
I took two attempts on this one, because this one took me into

1258
01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:41,520
the wee hours of the night one
night, and then I completely passed out

1259
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,359
because I was like trying to keep
up with the subtitles. And then yeah,

1260
01:18:44,399 --> 01:18:47,199
rewatched it the next day, and
I actually really enjoyed it. I

1261
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,600
feel like, I don't know,
maybe I wrote it off on the first

1262
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,279
half watch because it's just like a
new character, a lot of Origin stuff,

1263
01:18:55,319 --> 01:18:58,439
as Dylan was mentioning, and when
you're really tired, it's not usually

1264
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,520
the best time to digest all those
things. So stuff in thirty three minutes.

1265
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,800
It's not like a full movie where
it's okay, we've got two hours,

1266
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,560
the first hour of the Origin,
second hours, the okay, they're

1267
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,079
a hero now or almost. This
is like the whole thing is this is

1268
01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:15,479
the beginning. Yeah, and not
like our lead character. She is quite

1269
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,039
a bad as especially once she starts
like really figuring out her powers. We

1270
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:23,920
really get to see that showcase in
the last episode. But my favorite part

1271
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,720
about this was actually just the whole
the whole dynamic of like just these conquistadors

1272
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,720
coming to just fucking do what Conquista
doors do and just like take the land

1273
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:38,119
and these people's property and livelihood and
murder them. But you know, we've

1274
01:19:38,199 --> 01:19:43,119
like superpowered the the Mohawk people,
so that that was just really cool to

1275
01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:45,680
see like the defense of that,
and visually, I feel like this was

1276
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:48,680
the most visually appealing episode for me. I don't know what it was,

1277
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,720
but just like the yeah, just
like the setting and especially at the end

1278
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,159
when they're like you have like the
big ships off in the distance, and

1279
01:19:57,279 --> 01:20:00,760
just like the smoke going off from
the gun and the blue crystal powers,

1280
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,520
like just all of that was just
really visually appetizing to me. I was

1281
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,520
just really enjoying that. I loved
all the action sequences, but there was

1282
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,159
some moments throughout it that maybe were
a little bit of a lull, But

1283
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,479
maybe that's just more of like the
the origin stuff or certain characters just kind

1284
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:23,159
of having fun and lighthearted where I
guess it's kind of to your point,

1285
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:26,600
Travis, where they have like those
mcuisms of everyone's can kind of have a

1286
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,399
moment to joke around. Even though
it does feel like a very serious at

1287
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,279
least concept of an episode, A
lot of people are you know, either

1288
01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:39,039
dying or having for them. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah,

1289
01:20:39,079 --> 01:20:41,159
this one was kind of a surprise
for me. I liked it a

1290
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:45,840
lot more than I was maybe expecting
to. Yeah, I think this episode

1291
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:51,760
visually, I've really loved just how
they interpreted the test act turning into a

1292
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:58,199
different source of energy. Whereas we've
seen how it's power, We've seen how

1293
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:00,279
a few Infinity Stones, so it's
power can kind of trickle down and create

1294
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:05,560
different superhumans. And so when we
see my example here would be Captain Marble

1295
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:10,399
and we see how the tests tact
basically affected her, it's neat to see

1296
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:15,079
how this is basically a different form
of that power reaching out because they're literally

1297
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,640
just working with it. They're like
ingesting it because it's part of their food,

1298
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,680
their war, like everything that they've
they've grown into. It's just a

1299
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,319
part of them. And so I
think that's really cool. And it reminds

1300
01:21:24,359 --> 01:21:28,920
me too of just how like Wakanda
uses vibranium and like sows it into their

1301
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,560
clothes and whatnot. So I feel
like it's got a cool kind of blend

1302
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,319
and mesh with that as well.
But I think that focusing on just this

1303
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:43,119
historically very negative moment and just how
these Conquista doors are coming in and just

1304
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:45,960
fucking shut up, like you said, Kirkland, And I liked how it

1305
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:48,520
just kind of it gave this really
cool spin of how they were able to

1306
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:55,840
just pull this alternate world and this
alternate plane was just again, it reminds

1307
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:00,159
me of what Conda. What I
say is just like you said, Luca

1308
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:12,600
quote quote yeah, uh but the
Yeah, I think that the separate realm

1309
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,199
that they accessed and then when they
were able to like go like super nova

1310
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:20,319
and just like uh what was her
name, Kahori that was her name,

1311
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:26,399
when she was able to tap into
like this inner like superpower and just really

1312
01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:30,119
create the portal and just basically harness
the Test to Act power no matter where

1313
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:33,479
they are, Like this is like
ten times more powerful than Captain Marvel's ability

1314
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,640
because they can literally create portals to
wherever they want to go. Yeah,

1315
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,840
very very strong. I thought that
was I thought a big time with the

1316
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,960
power set here. Definitely, that
was that was with Loki Staff, right.

1317
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,760
That wasn't with the Test Act,
was it? It was powered by

1318
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:56,279
Loki Staff, right, the Mindstone. I just love this sce here where

1319
01:22:56,319 --> 01:22:59,000
Taylor's just there being like, yeah, you guys got nothing to worry about

1320
01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:03,720
your more powerful captain and she just
shows up and destroys everything like a Captain

1321
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,319
Marvel too, like when she's the
Annihilator, like it's like, don't worry,

1322
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:13,680
there's nothing to fear here. It's
like, like I agree like that.

1323
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:15,159
I think they're use the powers in
like a different set. I still

1324
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:18,800
like Captain Marble would just like fly
that place and it's gone, you know,

1325
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:25,880
Like I feel like she's still pretty
struck. Yeah, I think again

1326
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:31,000
the function up this being and it
fu Yeah, this being an origin story

1327
01:23:31,079 --> 01:23:34,680
for a new Marvel character, it's
interesting that they chose to do it in

1328
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,119
that wed if setting they could have, I don't know, maybe they it

1329
01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:42,199
would have been cool to see it
in like a like a live action TV

1330
01:23:42,359 --> 01:23:45,560
series like on Disney Plus or something
like that, because I feel like a

1331
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:50,239
character like this to just have like
a twenty nine to thirty minute story,

1332
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:53,760
I feel like it can be rushed
at times, and I feel like that's

1333
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,760
where you see like, oh,
you're a quick learner. That was basically

1334
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,880
the fill in for her expedetting like
her fast and all over powers, and

1335
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,079
you know what, that's fine,
because at the end of the day,

1336
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:08,119
I'm just really happy that the representation
is there. And I was reading people

1337
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:14,520
just like praising this representation, just
like hearing the language and hearing this never

1338
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,079
seen this before, and I think
that's really really wonderful that you get to

1339
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:21,760
have that. And I think that
as long as they don't I don't know,

1340
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,560
they don't just kind of like cast
this character aside and like mess around

1341
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,680
with her, and I feel like
we'll talk about later a little bit.

1342
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,039
Like the just the transition to speaking
English, I feel like that's I don't

1343
01:24:32,079 --> 01:24:34,800
know, that's just like, hey, we did your episode and we did

1344
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,079
all of this like this, like
here we go, yeah, yeah,

1345
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,760
here's like speak English all this kind
of stuff, Like you know, you

1346
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,840
don't have to kind of like shaft
it that way. I think, like

1347
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:48,600
you said, Travis, put out
different versions that address like different accessibilities that

1348
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:54,560
everyone can enjoy different ways of experiencing
this this story and this character because it's

1349
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,119
a new character, new and like
a new what if new adventure. So

1350
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,119
yeah, just that would be my
only kind of like feedback on it.

1351
01:25:00,199 --> 01:25:03,000
But other than that, I really
like the setting. I like the characters.

1352
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:06,000
I like how they just strutted in
there and just like this Queen of

1353
01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:09,800
Spain, like she's like lifted her
up, She's like trying to hold her

1354
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,600
dress down, like ah, there's
like my claim and all this, like

1355
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,199
you know, fuck you, Queen, You're fucking get out of here.

1356
01:25:15,279 --> 01:25:19,119
And doctor doctor Strange just shows up, which is like the Queen's I don't

1357
01:25:19,159 --> 01:25:21,239
need to see a follow up,
but the Queen's like what the fuck is

1358
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:25,760
going on? Like yeah, I
want to know what her next morning.

1359
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:31,880
That changes so much about that the
multi horse is in grave danger. They're

1360
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:39,239
fucking ship up. Taylor. I'm
thinking about how like every every character,

1361
01:25:39,359 --> 01:25:42,239
you know, if you go like
Marvel WICKI has like superhero strength and like

1362
01:25:42,359 --> 01:25:45,720
enhanced stamina, like just those generic
things. I'm picturing that like on her

1363
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,039
page, we'll just say like quick
learner, like that's just one of the

1364
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:51,640
powers. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. I think it's just that there

1365
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,159
this is like a testing ground,
you know. It's the same way it's

1366
01:25:55,159 --> 01:25:57,680
like Miles Morales was not he was
in the com books, but he was

1367
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,680
not in like Spider Man six ones. He was in the Ultimate Universe and

1368
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,800
then they merged them. So I
think that's kind of I think it's been

1369
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,439
successful. Like there's other characters like
Agent Colson that's like he's not like a

1370
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,319
Marvel character. They create them.
But that's like a very minute with this

1371
01:26:11,399 --> 01:26:14,600
being a hero. So I think
you could like maybe see her in like

1372
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,359
a Secret Wars or maybe they dabble
more what if and kind of see because

1373
01:26:17,399 --> 01:26:19,520
you know, there's like look at
Harley Quinn. That's a characters start an

1374
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,000
animation and then it's one of the
most popular DC characters. So I think

1375
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,359
it's just like, Okay, let's
see what the reaction is here. And

1376
01:26:26,359 --> 01:26:29,760
I think the reaction has been good, so we will see. I will

1377
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,680
go with a thumb up, thumb
up for me as well, thumb up.

1378
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,119
So I'm and a half those halfs
are coming out an ore there.

1379
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:43,479
Yeah, surprised. Uh. What
if Hella found the Ten Rings, growing

1380
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,439
weary of Hell's bloodlust, and the
Nine Realms Own banishes her to Earth,

1381
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,600
trips her over powers Strawing Millnaire and
placing her on an enchantment or place an

1382
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:57,520
enchantment on her crown, Hell Lah
Jesus Christ, Hell of Lands and Medievil

1383
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,319
China, and is confronted by the
armies of Win the man, and she

1384
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:03,920
attempts to retrieve the ground but fails. Win Wu keeps Hell lies and tries

1385
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,720
to recruit her to his army,
but Hell escapes his fortress after failing to

1386
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,399
steal his ten rings. She is
guided to hundon the realm of Tallau,

1387
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,960
where she is where she convinces the
leader to let her join her cause Uh

1388
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:20,960
teaches the way of Tallah. Yeah. Own visits Earth to battle win Wu

1389
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,479
in retaliation because he learns about the
rings. Hella joins. When Wu fights

1390
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,880
Own, ultimately winning regardless of regaining
her worthiness to wield the crown, and

1391
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,399
becomes the Angel or whatever, the
guard whatever, what is her thing or

1392
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,520
something. She's the goddess of death. She's a goddess of life. Now

1393
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,560
that's what she is. She's a
loss of life. And they've not the

1394
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,439
same ring, and they become just
like hit her and when Wu become like

1395
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,119
they're stopping oppression and they yeah,
they do that too, maybe, but

1396
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:51,199
they just have like a quick moantage
to them, like showing up to every

1397
01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:54,399
bad event in the MCU, and
they would have saved the day. And

1398
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:59,840
apparently it would have been perfect of
Own just cast out Hella yeah, this

1399
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:01,760
it's for me. It's weird because
we talked about happy Hoganer's like, oh,

1400
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,079
I had so low expectations, and
then it was like it was happy

1401
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:09,000
when well, this is one that
when we got those lists, I'm like,

1402
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,000
oh, this one sounds awesome.
This was just fine for me.

1403
01:28:12,079 --> 01:28:15,159
I liked getting more hell up.
But I just feel everything from the Hella

1404
01:28:15,359 --> 01:28:18,680
even arc was a little bit rushed
to even It felt weird that Owen at

1405
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,760
the beginning the episode casts out for
his blood lust, but then he's like,

1406
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,760
let's go invade fucking China and kill
everybody to take these rings. It

1407
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,079
was like this doesn't really compute at
all, Like it just felt messy and

1408
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:32,760
all over and again, this I
felt was the closest to the Peggy Car

1409
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,359
episode last year or last season,
where it was like it just sung Sheet

1410
01:28:36,399 --> 01:28:40,439
and Thor and they melded the two
movies together. What I liked about the

1411
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,720
pay Car episode this one was they
did that, but then the back half

1412
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,039
was new stuff, new environment,
new setting, new twists. This has

1413
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:50,279
kind of felt like pretty much the
same reci Repreat with a barring, like

1414
01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:54,439
a few other things. I'm glad
that Kate Lanchette was actually back to voice

1415
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,399
Hell, so that was cool.
I think that even then too, when

1416
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,119
we talked about I would have flipped
it. I would have liked more in

1417
01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:04,560
the Avengers episode where I want more
character dnamic instead of action. Here's where

1418
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,000
I want it because I heard the
episodes like oh, man like the Manner

1419
01:29:09,079 --> 01:29:11,159
versus Oh, and this is gonna
be great, and I think we got

1420
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:13,720
one. But I feel like I
could have took a fifteen minute episode like

1421
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,520
the fifteen minute back after just being
like as Guard and the Manners people just

1422
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,279
going to war with each other,
kind of like what they did with the

1423
01:29:19,319 --> 01:29:21,560
Death Race, like a big sequence, and I didn't really get that.

1424
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,960
So this is it's It's definitely in
the bottom. I'd say three for me.

1425
01:29:27,039 --> 01:29:30,039
So it was kind of a disappointment
unfortunately, not bad, but didn't

1426
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,640
didn't match a lot of the other
ones for me fair enough. Yeah,

1427
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:39,000
I can't really blame you for that, but I think I enjoyed it more

1428
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,319
nice just because I love Hello so
much. She's just so fun. I

1429
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,880
thought like her humor really worked for
me here, and then also just like

1430
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,960
her badass factor and I like that
the whole time. You know, she's

1431
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:55,880
like kind of trying to buddy up
a little bit with win Wu, but

1432
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,760
then she just like tries to kill
him anyway, Like all these things of

1433
01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:00,680
she tried, you know, trying
to fool them a little bit, but

1434
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,560
she's still just like this evil person. But then I actually feel like she

1435
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:10,119
goes on a pretty massive turn of
character from like being pure evil to wanting

1436
01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:12,960
to be like the Savior of the
Nine Realms and undo all this stuff.

1437
01:30:13,239 --> 01:30:15,479
But I've actually feels like it works
for me. I don't know if it's

1438
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,560
because of like the I guess implied
time jumps or time skips that happened here.

1439
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,479
I don't know if that that's what
makes it feel better, but yeah,

1440
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,479
I just I just had a really
fun time with this journey. And

1441
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,680
I think I agree with you though
that, like I feel like the odin

1442
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,319
when Wu altercation at the end was
kind of underwhelming, But for me,

1443
01:30:31,359 --> 01:30:36,239
it's more the journey along the way
that I particularly enjoyed. And yeah,

1444
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:40,560
it was fun to see some of
this shunk Chi stuff that we just haven't

1445
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,039
really seen anything from that world or
those characters since that movie came out,

1446
01:30:44,079 --> 01:30:45,720
So it's funny to get back into
that world as well. So yeah,

1447
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,800
I enjoyed this one. Yeah,
I'm I'm a little like Dylan on this

1448
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,520
one. I definitely had high expectations
going into it because I love Hella.

1449
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,520
I feel like I haven't seen enough
of her, and just knowing what this

1450
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,119
one was with the mixup of the
ten, that was just really exciting.

1451
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:05,880
And although like some like like turning
to the the Angel of Life or whatever

1452
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:11,199
they called it, the Goddess of
Goddess of Life, her look was was

1453
01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:14,720
badass. I feel like maybe it
was a little bit uh like quick,

1454
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,000
but again, it is thirty minute
episodes like like what are you gonna do?

1455
01:31:17,039 --> 01:31:20,640
Have a two parter, and I
feel like that's yeah, that's he

1456
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,079
That's got a ring to it right
there, especially the Lord of the Rings

1457
01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:27,159
time with Kate Blanchett. Come on, now, I will say, other

1458
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:30,199
than gan Off the White, no
one should go by blank the white.

1459
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:32,760
I think I think it's I think
that's a reserve for one man. But

1460
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:38,760
I don't think nowadays anyone should be
the white anything white. Yeah, can't

1461
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:45,159
that one? Yeah? Yeah,
I don't want to be crickled. If

1462
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:48,159
you meet anybody right away you're like, oh, hang on a second,

1463
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:55,279
like your guard goes up right away
after the narrator the white why are they

1464
01:31:55,319 --> 01:31:57,760
the white? Fair enough? You
have a you have a you have a

1465
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,399
good point there. But yeah,
just like throughout this entire episode, I

1466
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,960
just had a really good time.
I think. I think I just like

1467
01:32:03,039 --> 01:32:05,720
Dylan was saying, I just really
really like Hella, so having her interact

1468
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:10,880
with when Wu and having some of
that charm that like I'm not really used

1469
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:15,520
to her having because she is just
such a representation of evil here it's a

1470
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,039
little bit more lighthearted, but she's
still it's almost like a low key thing

1471
01:32:18,039 --> 01:32:20,920
where she's like smiling into your face
but then like trying to stab you in

1472
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:27,079
the back and get the rings away
from you. And just seeing her interact

1473
01:32:27,119 --> 01:32:31,800
with what was it the people of
Talel, I think that's what that tallow.

1474
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:38,279
Just like that. Yeah, just
like that training sequence she had with

1475
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,760
I forget all the characters' names,
but when she dismantles from the bow staff,

1476
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,159
just like that was a really cool
sequence. It's like what happens between

1477
01:32:46,199 --> 01:32:49,960
her and when Wu in shun Chi. So that was just really cool to

1478
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:54,520
see. I really like her red
outfit that she has just a really badass

1479
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,600
look. And yeah, just just
like the setup too of it being basically

1480
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:01,960
the same thing as Thor. Right, it's the exact same thing that happens

1481
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,840
with Odin, and he says with
the with meal near those who can wheel

1482
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,279
this or whatnot. So yeah,
from start to finish, I I don't

1483
01:33:10,279 --> 01:33:15,640
think it's can wheel this and whatnot? You can function up with this?

1484
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,720
Yeah, give you a Milner the
white. I don't think this is a

1485
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:25,039
perfect episode, but I definitely had
just a fantastic time watching this. So

1486
01:33:25,079 --> 01:33:28,920
my enjoyment factor is, I think
higher than what the quality of the episode

1487
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,640
is. I love when she does
like the hair thing that she does in

1488
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,359
Ragnar or she like push her hair
back to like spawn the helmet and she's

1489
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:36,640
like, oh, that normally has
a bigger impact. That doesn't. Then

1490
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,640
she does like her like wrist blade
thing too, and then that does nothing.

1491
01:33:41,279 --> 01:33:44,720
Then she like pops off. Still
like her having to see her fight

1492
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,439
when she doesn't have her op devices. Yeah too, she doesn't have a

1493
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:54,600
crutch to lean on, you know
exactly that's killed him. I really liked

1494
01:33:54,640 --> 01:34:00,159
this episode. My only biggest con
is just when Odin comes back and gets

1495
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:04,720
pissed off at her for her fulfilling
her her mission to get her powers back,

1496
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:10,720
and to him, that's like this
is unacceptable these people now, Yeah,

1497
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,479
that that's my only con And I
was like vocally like saying out loud,

1498
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:20,560
like a vocal outbursts like Oden,
you fucking hypocrite, like really concerned.

1499
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,960
That's not like Odin's ever a good
guy, right, nobody. It

1500
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,279
felt like they still these nine realms
and like arbitrarily, he's like, yeah,

1501
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:31,079
that's enough. That doesn't make him
a good guy. Like that's different

1502
01:34:31,159 --> 01:34:34,560
though, because like he says like
like should they should you be worthy?

1503
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,680
Will wield the power of Hella like
and even like you know, you exceeded

1504
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:44,279
my expectations, like to reclaim your
power whatever like she was. There were

1505
01:34:44,319 --> 01:34:48,720
standards that he set in his his
like magic. But he is a hypocrite,

1506
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,600
like in general. That's that's why
I think of of Odin. I

1507
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:56,520
don't think of I guess so,
but he totally. But it even just

1508
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,600
like because it's weird because like I
feel like they're framing it in the MC

1509
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,920
where they and Raight Rock they say
that right where at one point he was

1510
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,840
like this, but eventually he starts
to change, so I feel like this

1511
01:35:05,039 --> 01:35:08,520
was like, oh this is Owen. On the episode learning, he started

1512
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,319
to realize, hey, we went
way too hard, we would kill a

1513
01:35:11,319 --> 01:35:13,359
way too make people. Because he
gets rid of her because yeah, because

1514
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,039
you're bloodlust. So it's just weird
to me that she does have like what

1515
01:35:16,199 --> 01:35:19,079
is wrong with it? And same
thing even with the like these people can't

1516
01:35:19,079 --> 01:35:24,000
possess these rings. It's like there's
people all around the universe that have powerful

1517
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:28,359
like I woulday it just didn't track
for the I wish he got rid of

1518
01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:31,439
her for a different reason, like
maybe the reverse of she wasn't like bloodlust

1519
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,680
enough. I don't know because I
forgot to mention. There was a scene

1520
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:38,079
I did really like where when he
takes the dog away and it showed him

1521
01:35:38,119 --> 01:35:41,039
being like, oh yeah, like
really crucial, like our cruel on her,

1522
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:43,560
like oh yeah, this is made
for fighting in battle. It shouldn't

1523
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,319
be loved and we have to take
things away. So I was liking,

1524
01:35:45,319 --> 01:35:48,640
and I guess I just there's a
disconnect on why he cast her out and

1525
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:53,359
then why he was upset with her
at the end. It didn't it didn't

1526
01:35:53,359 --> 01:35:56,960
make a perfect line. It's it's
it's a god butt is it what?

1527
01:35:57,319 --> 01:36:01,479
He's an old crackpots in your death. You know, we saw him getting

1528
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:09,399
ready for this. I wish they
went back there in the Island. That's

1529
01:36:09,399 --> 01:36:15,039
where the same c g I,
but it's live action. They cut it's

1530
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:19,880
it's like Roger Rabbit situation where they're
not this live action lot and the characters

1531
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:30,000
are just like wireframes, like they're
not even animated. Probably what if,

1532
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:38,279
but yeah, what if. I
I really did enjoy this episode though,

1533
01:36:38,319 --> 01:36:41,680
I think aside from that Odin thing, this was this is pretty cool to

1534
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,359
see. I liked how hell I
got redeemed and just became this powerful force

1535
01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:49,920
of light and just her teaming up
with with the Mandarin, so many cool

1536
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,359
things that were just coming out of
this and then stopping than ouse and when

1537
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,800
I thought it was really really cool. So I would love to see this

1538
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,319
Hella got ess of life return in
the future at some point with when we

1539
01:37:00,359 --> 01:37:02,439
I think it would be really really
cool. And my favorite thing too,

1540
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:08,319
is that they didn't unveil the mystery
of the rings in this episode. They

1541
01:37:08,359 --> 01:37:10,800
still kept it pretty mysterious. They
just said, like, oh, it's

1542
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,079
a power from somewhere else. And
I'm glad they did that because I want

1543
01:37:14,079 --> 01:37:16,439
to save that for whenever we get
Sung Chi back on screen and we get

1544
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,800
Bruce Banner back in there. Yeah
yeah, fuck, So the save it

1545
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,920
for the big screen reveal because I
feel like there's something that they're still hiding

1546
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,960
and I'm happy about that. So, and she's gonna fucking die before we

1547
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,239
get the big screen reveal. My
god, if all these other movies bomb,

1548
01:37:30,319 --> 01:37:35,920
it's Hammertech. That's what they're building
up. It's called The Ex Wife.

1549
01:37:36,359 --> 01:37:44,359
Yeah, anything else thumbs up for
me? Yeah, one thumb up?

1550
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:49,199
Wait was that thumbs dilner? Thumb
uh? One thumb Okay, I

1551
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:53,359
thought I heard a like I said, I have two episodes that aren't and

1552
01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:59,760
then everything else is just a nice
clean thumber Yeah and a half half or

1553
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,840
all right, we got We're on
our final two episodes here. So the

1554
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:11,359
penultimate episode what If the Avengers assembled
in sixteen o two after being transported to

1555
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,199
the Renaissance Theme Universe by Wanda Merlin, Captain Carter agrees to help her and

1556
01:38:15,319 --> 01:38:21,319
Sir Nicholas Fury upon learning of the
appendant encouragion. Nicholas sometime later, as

1557
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,520
tears open She saves Prince Loki from
being pulled into it, but is unable

1558
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:30,119
to save Queen Hella. Carter is
hunted down by Sir Harold, the Happy

1559
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:35,319
Hogan, and the Royal Yellow Jackets
under the King thors new orders. They

1560
01:38:35,319 --> 01:38:41,279
meet some outlaws Bucky Barnes, Scott
Lang and of course Steve Rogers. They

1561
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:45,680
fight the Freak again, they fight
the Destroyer. A bunch of things going

1562
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,600
on here, and at the end
there's some things revealed. There's a big

1563
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:54,800
reveal of Cap and then the doctor
Rinch also comes to recruit her as he

1564
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,800
did in the previous episode, and
you go, oh, what's what's going

1565
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,000
on here? So you know what
you think about this episode? My god,

1566
01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:04,560
what a fun time. I love
this episode. This is kind of

1567
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:10,560
on that tier of the Zombies episode
for me in terms of just being like,

1568
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,079
this such a wild scenario to throw
all these characters in, and there's

1569
01:39:14,079 --> 01:39:16,479
not really much logic for like why
some of these characters are here or these

1570
01:39:17,279 --> 01:39:19,680
versions of them. But to me, it just kind of feels like a

1571
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:24,079
D and D campaign where it's like, Okay, who's Steve Rogers gonna play

1572
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:27,239
in this campaign? And he just
picks like this kind of Warriors three type

1573
01:39:27,359 --> 01:39:30,880
along with these other two. So
every minute I feel like just had some

1574
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,359
reveal of Oh, like here's Red
Skull, it's just like an executioner.

1575
01:39:33,399 --> 01:39:36,600
I love that. Or here's like, yeah, this army of yellow jackets

1576
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,239
that Happy's shooting out of his blunderbus. Like all these scenarios are just so

1577
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,640
fun and silly and like kind of
stupid and like the best way possible.

1578
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,680
So yeah, I think, to
me, this is uh, maybe the

1579
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,479
top episode of the season. This
is kind of like the highlight, the

1580
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:53,880
standout for me. And yeah,
it's just because you get so many characters

1581
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,399
in there, you get so many
fun scenarios, and then like the actual

1582
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,199
journey of it is pretty fun as
well. So yeah, just from start

1583
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:06,359
to finish shot this is a really
good time. Yes, I also enjoyed

1584
01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:10,760
this. I definitely got the D
and D vibes from it. It was

1585
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,399
just so cool to see like the
characters that we know in love with just

1586
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,640
like those old timey medieval aesthetics to
it, Like seeing Cap with just a

1587
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,720
straight up like kite shield. That's
just that's just such a great look and

1588
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,359
not one that I ever thought I
would see but man, it looks sweet

1589
01:40:25,359 --> 01:40:32,760
and having just like different characters like
maybe like versus different characters like like like

1590
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,039
like what you said, It's just
it's so random having like happy Hogan shooting

1591
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:40,479
yellow jackets out of his bunderbuss.
But what a fun time it is.

1592
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:45,279
It definitely this this one really just
feels not even so much like a what

1593
01:40:45,359 --> 01:40:48,920
if scenario. It's just like a
whole different idea of a show. Like

1594
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,920
you have these these characters from the
MCU, but it's just it's nothing like

1595
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:58,239
the MCU by any means, but
they still were able to I think maybe

1596
01:40:59,399 --> 01:41:02,560
like tweaks on people's powers, like
having Wanda as like this Merlin type character

1597
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,840
like with her her wizard powers.
That was just really sweet to see.

1598
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:10,760
And yeah, I just I just
love the whole aesthetic of the medieval time.

1599
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:15,920
So this is definitely a higher one
on my list for sure. Yeah,

1600
01:41:15,079 --> 01:41:20,079
this episode totally caught me off guard. I I loved that. I

1601
01:41:20,119 --> 01:41:24,800
love the robin Hood vibes, the
Renaissance to Shakespeare and just so many different

1602
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:29,840
elements combining in. I was laughing
so hard just getting to see these like

1603
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,319
low key literally a low key low
key just like into his like drama and

1604
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:38,279
esque stuff, and just so many
different things were just really really enjoyable,

1605
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:43,880
and I would totally take a live
action version of this. It's just this

1606
01:41:44,039 --> 01:41:47,439
might be just this might just be
my favorite. Well, we'll get to

1607
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,479
the ranking stuff there. I just
I was just blown away by this.

1608
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,319
There were so many cool things,
and like you said, Dylan, just

1609
01:41:54,319 --> 01:42:00,560
the small like quality of life note
like character notices like red Skull being in

1610
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,000
there, like the yellow jacket,
like for the crown, like like troops

1611
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,520
and stuff like that. There's so
many cool little things that I really really

1612
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:10,920
do appreciate. So it was just
a fun EMCU not even Avengers, but

1613
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:16,560
MCU filled episode with so many different
things, and I think most most MCU

1614
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,439
fans would really just enjoy this and
just enjoyed watching it like a few times

1615
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,319
and nitpicking, just like seeing oh
this is cool, this is neat,

1616
01:42:25,319 --> 01:42:28,720
Oh this is another cool factor brought
in that I missed the first time.

1617
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,960
So I thought it was great.
And it of course it caps off with

1618
01:42:33,039 --> 01:42:38,520
Peggy and Steve Rogers kind of send
off here as well after we got one

1619
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,439
before, so she's just getting the
fucking shittiest end of the shittiest stick so

1620
01:42:44,279 --> 01:42:48,880
the ronin end uh yeah, No. I really liked that. That was

1621
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:53,600
like a very fun reveal the whole
time because it was odd where it's like,

1622
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,199
Okay, why is cap why is
he like this? Because it never

1623
01:42:58,279 --> 01:43:00,560
makes like he's always skinny if he's
not in from that era, right,

1624
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,079
and what a like I have?
That was a mind blowing moment for me.

1625
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:06,319
And like he says like, yeah, the Peggy my world's dead,

1626
01:43:06,399 --> 01:43:09,760
so it's like you're leaving all this
stuff. It's like, oh man,

1627
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,279
he's like our cat from six one
six, you know, like if and

1628
01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:16,800
we remember we talked what we saw
the Infinity War moment in the trailer.

1629
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,560
We're like, okay, what like
what is that what if moment gonna be?

1630
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:24,000
And that to me was like maybe
my favorite like what if twist?

1631
01:43:24,079 --> 01:43:26,560
He was like, oh, this
is really clever, well done, scream

1632
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,279
can you move something like two inches? How could it change? Yea much?

1633
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,039
Right? And that's where it's like
it's probably you got this different universe

1634
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:34,760
and then you have a Captain Carter
from a different universe here, and then

1635
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,560
you have a Captain America from a
different universe here. So it's like that

1636
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,920
great multiverse stuff where it's like,
oh, yeah, this is when it's

1637
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,319
singing and yeah, no, I
think Dylan had the right comparison with zombies.

1638
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:46,199
It's just a super fun time.
They took a lot of care.

1639
01:43:46,359 --> 01:43:50,079
There's lots of good moments in here. My critiques are only minor ones,

1640
01:43:50,119 --> 01:43:54,000
but they wouldn't affect my thumb rating. Just like I kind of want a

1641
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,840
bit more of Wanda because I think
in the trailers made a big deal she

1642
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,720
was in here, and I want
more there. I did I really understand

1643
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,399
why Captain Carter would be the character
you'd get to close portals That didn't really

1644
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,560
track for me. I was fine
with it because it's like, cool,

1645
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:11,039
she's our main character, but it's
like why and then I lat what was

1646
01:44:11,079 --> 01:44:14,640
my last Oh, it's not a
critique, it's something that someone brought up

1647
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,399
and I didn't think about this as
some of the jue g Ua people.

1648
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,640
It's really I'm curious and it's really
strange that other than him being like a

1649
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:26,600
zombie and Marvel what if zombies and
not even that choke, just that episode,

1650
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,600
why is Sam like not and what
if? At all? M Like?

1651
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,000
Why was like and even though I
know it's Paul Rubb, but like,

1652
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,520
why, like even more so than
Bucky, Like why is Sam not

1653
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:39,000
with that merryman, Like, it's
weird that he's not been any of this

1654
01:44:39,079 --> 01:44:42,000
season. He was at any last
season to being a zombie. It's so

1655
01:44:42,079 --> 01:44:45,399
strange. This guy's like the new
Captain America. Yeah, and he's like

1656
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,319
nowhere to be found in these So
I'm hoping in season three he does it

1657
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:51,119
something. But someone brought that up
and I was like, yeah, I

1658
01:44:51,159 --> 01:44:54,760
guess because this, to me would
have been the perfect splotform right to be

1659
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,439
a part of that crew, and
it was very odd for him not to

1660
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,560
be there. And then when I
thought back, it's like, yeah,

1661
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,800
he's no near. So that was
a little bit. You guys brought up

1662
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,039
Red Skull's executioner. The l Jackson
thing was great. It was weird to

1663
01:45:05,039 --> 01:45:10,319
have the happy Hogan tie that he
had the freak in him again, so

1664
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,920
kind of that that just scares me
if like is that a thing they want

1665
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,119
to do in live action one day
and that's what they're like setting us up

1666
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:19,479
for, Like in Armour Wars,
He's gonna turn into the fucking freak and

1667
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:23,159
Rody has to fight him. Like
there's a lot of hulks. Now there's

1668
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,880
scar like like, I'm not saying
it's had the realm of possibility. If

1669
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,159
we're gonna get a red, if
we're gonna get Harrison Ford looking like a

1670
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:33,520
hulk, they'll definitely make Sean Favreau
look like a hulk. So but yeah,

1671
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,600
very very good episode, very fun
time. This is one where just

1672
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:40,560
like Marvel Zombies, if they were
announced, Hey, we're gonna do you

1673
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,680
know, uh, you know Avengers
sixteen oh two, it's like a mini

1674
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,319
series, like great, let's let's
get it. I'd love more of it.

1675
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:49,680
So yeah, yeah, I wonder
why uh Sam's been sitting on the

1676
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,239
bench so much. I mean,
I'd have to really go through a list

1677
01:45:53,239 --> 01:45:57,199
of like what other care like obvious
characters haven't really appeared at on it.

1678
01:45:57,319 --> 01:46:00,920
I haven't really rewatched season one recently, so hard for me to remember.

1679
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:02,760
But that does seem like a weird
emission. I wonder if it's something of

1680
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,560
just the production timeline of these,
like maybe they didn't know when things were

1681
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,920
releasing, but you feel like Winter
Sold, like that show came out so

1682
01:46:11,039 --> 01:46:13,920
long ago at this point that you
think that that's something they would have prepared,

1683
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:15,800
but even like, you know,
I was hoping she huwk would pop

1684
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,079
up somewhere in these but maybe just
once again with the release state's production time,

1685
01:46:18,119 --> 01:46:21,119
they just don't really know when things
are released seing in terms of what

1686
01:46:21,199 --> 01:46:25,600
reveals they can they can play play
on or which characters. Yeah, Like,

1687
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,600
there's obviously so much potential for any
of these seasons that all all times,

1688
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:30,880
but I guess you know, we're
get another season next to next year.

1689
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,800
I'm sure have our chance for some
of those characters haven't appeared yet.

1690
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,359
Yeah. And the other one,
especially in next episode two that didn't appear,

1691
01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:39,520
was there's no Spindy this season either. We got him a couple of

1692
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,680
times in season one, but I
forgot that we even got him in season

1693
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,159
one. Yeah, and I'm pretty
sure I don't think there's like with Marvel

1694
01:46:45,239 --> 01:46:48,159
Television Animation. I don't think there's
like a oh, you can't use him.

1695
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:51,079
I think, yeah, Marvel can
use him. So that was another

1696
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:55,079
because obviously they're doing the show right, they're doing the friendly neighborhood spider Man,

1697
01:46:55,079 --> 01:46:57,680
So maybe that was the idea of
they didn't want to do too much,

1698
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,920
but it's like always take more spider
Man. So I just feel like

1699
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:02,199
Tom holmespier Man would have been perfect
in this episode two, Like it's fun

1700
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,039
some little gesture boy or like some
little like like one of those like oh,

1701
01:47:06,079 --> 01:47:09,199
you know, I don't know what
he would have been, but similar

1702
01:47:09,279 --> 01:47:15,079
something to what the fuck is that? Like a little like oh like oh

1703
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:19,640
sire, you know, like a
little kind of weakling pathetic guy like a

1704
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:26,319
war or something like that. Yeah, late as the hour, Captain Roger's

1705
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:30,479
you know, like I don't know
what's something like that. I also,

1706
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,479
you know, just because the Bred
think about it and you had that good

1707
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,000
list there of like not not plot
holes, but just like issues with the

1708
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,640
episode. I also felt like Thor
in general, just like okay, like

1709
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,920
Peggy's been here for like a month
or something trying to figure out these wormholes,

1710
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,399
can't figure it out, and then
he's like it's your fault, like

1711
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,279
it throws her. It's like,
I don't know if that like one.

1712
01:47:48,359 --> 01:47:50,880
Yeah, with her power set,
it's not like it's not like she's an

1713
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,600
Iron Man type in terms of cracking
all these codes. So yeah, it

1714
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,479
felt weird to just throw her out
and and blame the whole thing when her

1715
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,199
didn't really makes it like was he
doing sitting on his thrown not doing anything

1716
01:48:00,279 --> 01:48:09,680
trying to solve this issue anything else. I mean, I would have been

1717
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,760
down if Sam was there, but
he wasn't. Even though he wasn't,

1718
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,840
I still love that trio. That
was so fun to me of of Kat,

1719
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,399
Bucky and at Man and Man obviously
the very jokey goofball Paul Redd type,

1720
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,119
but obviously that that works there.
But even like the three of them,

1721
01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:27,039
just like robbing that caravan and that's
when they find them is a funny

1722
01:48:27,039 --> 01:48:31,760
thing to me. Yeah. I
loved the look of the Destroyer. I

1723
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:35,760
thought that was so fucking cool,
like the armor kind of night version with

1724
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:40,079
like I don't know, all those
little golden symbols whatever all around him.

1725
01:48:40,079 --> 01:48:44,720
I thought that was so sweet and
uh, I guess yeah. My other

1726
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,520
question for you guys is, like
I'm trying to think back to that Captain

1727
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,159
Carter episode in season one. Was
there an interaction between her and the Watcher

1728
01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:54,800
and the way that in this season
she's just talking to the Watcher like the

1729
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,520
whole time. Well, it was
the finale, right, I think the

1730
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,439
finale happens in it. I don't
think it was. It's because it's like

1731
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,640
all of them from the stories you
get together, and they're put together to

1732
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,680
like stuck because remember Ultron fights the
Watcher, and they're like, yeah,

1733
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:10,640
we need remember Altron fighting the Watcher. But I guess I don't remember the

1734
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:14,760
character. Okay, So she liked
him there and I think she meets somebody.

1735
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,079
It's like he talks to the group. It's not like a peggy and

1736
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:23,199
like wat to want assembling his guardians
of the Multiverse, doesn't he put her

1737
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:27,279
into a timeline that he like he
does something. Yeah, he puts her

1738
01:49:27,279 --> 01:49:30,039
in. There's there's already that like
special like connection I think between the two

1739
01:49:30,039 --> 01:49:35,079
of them because he puts her somewhere
else. Old timeline is maybe maybe after

1740
01:49:35,079 --> 01:49:39,359
rewatched season one day because I was
just found by myself not confused by it,

1741
01:49:39,399 --> 01:49:43,800
but I was just I was curious
why why the Watcher and her were

1742
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,399
just had like this team up when
he doesn't talk to anyone else. But

1743
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,359
also it just seemed like a surprise, like she was like, oh,

1744
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,039
I can hear you, you know, and he's like, oh, I

1745
01:49:51,039 --> 01:49:54,880
didn't even realize that. So it's
like I feel like his power is so

1746
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,319
strong that I don't know how that's
just bleeding through. It just felt like

1747
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,199
something that was kind of a through
line of the season for whatever reason,

1748
01:50:01,239 --> 01:50:05,880
but wasn't really ever highlighted on.
They gonna ge Jeffrey Rush in the MC.

1749
01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:10,279
You know what I'm saying. We
gotta we gotta have them line there.

1750
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:16,760
Jeffer Rush who plays Barbosa. Okay, I don't know. Yeah,

1751
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:21,039
yeah, you know he can be. He can be in the m C.

1752
01:50:21,239 --> 01:50:25,279
He's he's already voices the watch it, right, so he's there.

1753
01:50:26,079 --> 01:50:33,159
He's there. Two thumbs. I'll
go with a nice uh how about them?

1754
01:50:33,239 --> 01:50:38,000
And a half big shiny one A
half yeah, two thumbs. I

1755
01:50:38,039 --> 01:50:43,239
got two firm thumbs right up for
this. The last episode, what if

1756
01:50:44,119 --> 01:50:54,079
Strange Supreme interfeared in interview As I
was saying it slow, that was me

1757
01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:57,560
realizing that's not interfered. But I
was already saying it, but they got

1758
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:01,800
me. Uh. Strange Supreme takes
and Carter to a sanctum in Infinitorum,

1759
01:51:02,359 --> 01:51:06,399
where he reveals that he has been
capturing various universe killers to atone for his

1760
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:13,079
past since a Strange ass Carter to
assistant capturing an escape farret who fled the

1761
01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:17,439
universe when Hydro used the Tesserec to
destroy the world. Carter grees in spite

1762
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,359
of a watcher's warning. You know, it's like at you don't want to

1763
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:24,520
know what's coming. Next, she
encounters Gahara. They explain, and I

1764
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:28,159
now Strange is bringing there. He's
a fucked up guy. He's actually capturing

1765
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:31,079
just everybody lo and behold. You
would have guessed that he's trying to bring

1766
01:51:31,159 --> 01:51:36,239
back Christine. He's trying to bring
back his universe. And then pandemonium.

1767
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,880
It becomes very multiverse a madness,
very much what I think Cigaret Wars is

1768
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:45,760
gonna be. Where they start breaking
all these tubes and all these heroes,

1769
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,479
villains, whatever you name from this
season, from last season, from seasons

1770
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,520
maybe in the future people haven't even
seen, are just busting out of there

1771
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:57,720
and becomes a multiverse war. They
eventually stop Supreme. He kills himself,

1772
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,319
but you know it's kind of an
off screen you know death. Where is

1773
01:52:00,319 --> 01:52:03,479
he? Where is he not?
I don't know? And then Carr asks

1774
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:08,359
to show her the multiverse before taking
her home. So she does go home,

1775
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,279
but yeah, I'll start with doctor
es Strange, what do you think

1776
01:52:11,279 --> 01:52:15,640
about Strange Supreme being back and you
know it's a big favorite here in the

1777
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,680
GV community last year or yeah,
I just I liked how he started trickling

1778
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,920
up into these episodes because like,
oh this this fuck her Like he sounds

1779
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:29,199
since here, like what's he up
to? And then just him him popping

1780
01:52:29,239 --> 01:52:34,199
in and just like the thousands of
them whatever, like it's just this the

1781
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:41,920
just the goal to save Christine.
I I it's it's it's amazing how and

1782
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:47,680
what he was willing to just spend
or compromise what would be the word for

1783
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:51,159
that sacrifice. I guess I'm trying
to say, Yeah, it's what he's

1784
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:56,159
willing the sacrifice just to save her. And I always find it fascinating because

1785
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:00,479
this is is such a simple narrative, but you can change it up different

1786
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,279
in different ways. And I just
say that because of what we've seen in

1787
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:09,880
Multiverse of Madness and how you have
all these really fucked up uh doctor Strange's

1788
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,359
and and sid and just I always
love seeing how you have the one who's

1789
01:53:14,359 --> 01:53:16,560
the Sorcerer Supreme and you have other
ones that aren't and all these different SOMs

1790
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:21,560
that have used like the what was
the book called I can't remember the Dark

1791
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:27,000
Dark Hold, the Dark Hold.
Yeah, so there's just so many different

1792
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,520
versions, and I really find that
just to be so intriguing of a character

1793
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,520
because of what he's capable of,
and just how he's just supposed to be

1794
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:38,520
like sort of like our gateway into
the multiverse, at least in the live

1795
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,680
action I'm see you way, because
maybe it's just because we get the Multiverse

1796
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,600
of Madness movie, but just what
he's doing in this episode is so fucked

1797
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,840
up. And again we get to
see him like do his like shape shifting

1798
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:54,359
a bit, and just yeah,
his when he whips out like the the

1799
01:53:54,399 --> 01:53:59,199
fucking Armies of Annubis forms just you
know, thousands of them. It's just

1800
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:09,680
seen that before verse. It's just
he's he's so such a cool, cool

1801
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,359
villain. And I do hope that
he does come back. I really really

1802
01:54:12,359 --> 01:54:16,880
do. Seeing uh Kahori come into
play here with Captain Carter and especially them

1803
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,199
they squared off for a little bit
there, but just seeing them team up

1804
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:25,720
and just like bringing you up to
speed and like the Forge and all this

1805
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:30,199
fucked up ship that's going on,
and yeah, I just I think it's

1806
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:32,600
it's interesting. But again, like
we talked about earlier. I do feel

1807
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:35,920
like this shouldn't have just been a
right to English because the doctor Strange just

1808
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:42,039
like give her like here's all like
the psychre text on English. Yeah,

1809
01:54:42,199 --> 01:54:47,000
yeah, so I wish I wish
they handled that a little bit better.

1810
01:54:47,039 --> 01:54:49,960
But this just this felt like a
finale. It felt like it was just

1811
01:54:50,199 --> 01:54:55,359
like fucking Balls of the Walls one
hundred high octane after everything that we've had

1812
01:54:55,399 --> 01:54:59,520
and just kind of like bringing in
all like certain things that we've seen so

1813
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:06,760
far to yea. So I really
really enjoyed it. Yeah, I'm curious

1814
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:13,920
who's gonna go next. I'll go, oh, because Taylor said something that

1815
01:55:14,039 --> 01:55:16,079
I'm about wanting to see him again, So I'm gonna say, yeah,

1816
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:20,079
I love this episode. I think
this was a I thought it was very

1817
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:24,119
well done. I was happy for
a Strange to prove to come back and

1818
01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:26,800
be like, oh yeah, I'm
help because like it works where he started

1819
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,199
very shady, but at the end
of the season he had that art,

1820
01:55:29,239 --> 01:55:31,439
but it was more just like he
busted out just to like help them,

1821
01:55:31,479 --> 01:55:34,079
you know, to get out of
that ball thing, and like he's he

1822
01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:38,159
used to like I won't say good, but like That's why I like,

1823
01:55:38,199 --> 01:55:41,319
like, even in these minor episodes
last season, he was always layer.

1824
01:55:41,319 --> 01:55:43,079
There's always something to him. So
I was like, oh, this feels

1825
01:55:43,239 --> 01:55:45,680
very kind of generic. It's like, I don't want this to just be

1826
01:55:45,039 --> 01:55:48,359
strange, and like, sure,
it is just saving Christine again, but

1827
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,520
like that's just some of the best
motivations for villains, just like this one

1828
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:55,880
simple thing that we can relate to. Right with Fantas was solving all this.

1829
01:55:56,159 --> 01:55:58,560
He says like, oh, wouldn't
you do everything to bring Steve back?

1830
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,399
And that's the difference where said no, I wouldn't, and see wouldn't

1831
01:56:00,399 --> 01:56:03,720
want me to. So I liked
the fake out. I like the setup.

1832
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,600
I love the action of all these
characters coming in. I thought it

1833
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,479
was finale worthy. I think I
even like it a bit more than last

1834
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:14,720
finale. I think this goes back
to kind Tayasan and also me and Dylan

1835
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,800
when we did that newscast a couple
of weeks ago, and we're talking about

1836
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,319
what they should do with the Kang
situation, and like, if you pluck

1837
01:56:19,399 --> 01:56:23,439
him out, what do you do. I don't think they will do it,

1838
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,920
but I think they should be sitting
in a room right now, and

1839
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:30,119
the best replacement This episode convinced me
before Kang is just to use Strange Supreme

1840
01:56:30,239 --> 01:56:33,840
because with whether you got Multiverse amanis
them saying, oh, you're the biggest

1841
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:38,239
threat to the multiverse. We met
that evil doctor Strange. There, you

1842
01:56:38,319 --> 01:56:41,680
have this, you have all these
ties, and I think it would work

1843
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,520
if you get Bendick. You can
even kill off our doctor Strange and bring

1844
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,279
in this one. I don't think
they will, but that's what I'm putting

1845
01:56:46,319 --> 01:56:49,199
in the universe, Like that's what
I want if they don't recast Kang.

1846
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:54,119
Strange Supreme is like he's right there, and it doesn't even feel like a

1847
01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:58,039
pivot. It feels like stuff they've
already set up in multiple avenues. Like

1848
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:00,840
he feels more set up than Kang
does with multi Verse amnnas this season,

1849
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,960
last season. And even if it
is just bringing back Christine, it's like

1850
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:08,880
they've had like Loki was taking over
New York to get his father's love,

1851
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,520
you know, like they like they've
had villains that of Avengers levels have these

1852
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,720
minor ideas. So after this episode, I say, man, this is

1853
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,239
who I want to be the Secret
Wars villain. I don't think it will

1854
01:57:19,279 --> 01:57:23,880
happen. I think they'll just go
They'll go to Beyonder and say it's Kang

1855
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,720
or whatever. But this is that's
my hope, maybe that we get that

1856
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,560
multiverse a Mannas three. But I'm
with you, Taylor that I want to

1857
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,560
see it. But that's my pitch
that I think that's who they should that's

1858
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,720
the break last. Don't go back
to kingg. Get Strange Supreme, get

1859
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:39,560
Bennet Cumberbatch to be a fucking villain
and like let's go. So that that's

1860
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,880
my pitch with this episode. Absolutely
I loved it, had a great time

1861
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,840
with it. So yeah, I
I love your pitch. I hope it

1862
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:50,560
happens. I'll do my little prayer
tonight. I feel like the thing with

1863
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:58,119
Little Prayer with Yeah, I feel
like the thing with Strange Supreme is that

1864
01:57:58,239 --> 01:58:03,560
he's like he still has as that
that uh that like I don't know,

1865
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:08,079
comforting tone, maybe that like doctor
Strange has where he doesn't feel like a

1866
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:11,039
villain. But fuck, when you
look at him, it's like, man,

1867
01:58:11,079 --> 01:58:16,319
that that guy, that guy's been
through shit and like those eyes like

1868
01:58:16,359 --> 01:58:19,399
the fucking dead heights. That's how
I feel looking at him. And just

1869
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:24,279
like even in the previous episode when
he's talking to Peggy, Like I kind

1870
01:58:24,279 --> 01:58:26,319
of had to remind myself. I'm
like, man, he just has like

1871
01:58:26,399 --> 01:58:30,159
demons literally inside of him that he's
just like in golf, Like this guy

1872
01:58:30,279 --> 01:58:34,720
is not like he is not all
good or anything like that. Like it's

1873
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:39,399
definitely he has that charming smile and
demeanor when he talks to like a friend

1874
01:58:39,479 --> 01:58:43,399
or something. But I I think
just having like the history that went on

1875
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,239
last season carrying into here, it's
just man, he's such a such a

1876
01:58:46,279 --> 01:58:50,640
complex character. And I I really
am happy that they did the evil turn

1877
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:55,960
for this finale, just it's it
seemed like it was warranted and seem like

1878
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,560
it was just an a nothing villain
or anything like that. As you said,

1879
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,800
Trav is like his his motivation,
and it's a very human like motivation.

1880
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,920
He just wants his love one back
and this has just been like haunting

1881
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:09,159
at him for all this time,
and he's finally doing like the ultimate like

1882
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:13,319
the ultimate plan essentially just to sacrifice
all these people just to get his world

1883
01:59:13,319 --> 01:59:16,399
back, his Christine back. So
I loved all that set up. I

1884
01:59:16,439 --> 01:59:23,680
love the location of what was it
called the Sanctum Infinite infinite Infinitorum, I

1885
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,119
think Infinitorum. Yeah, it was
just a really really cool place to have

1886
01:59:27,159 --> 01:59:29,920
this giant war. It seemed like
the Minds of Maria where it just went

1887
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:34,279
on like forever. Even when Kohori
I think that was her name, was

1888
01:59:34,319 --> 01:59:38,800
like running through like super fast Quicksilver
style, it just seemed like it never

1889
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:42,840
was ending. And there's so many
characters just interacting there. I love like

1890
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:46,039
the main chamber and everything so all. I really just love this finale.

1891
01:59:46,119 --> 01:59:50,359
I thought it was really really solid. I think it's on par maybe even

1892
01:59:50,359 --> 01:59:56,800
better than the last last season's finale. And yeah, I definitely loved what

1893
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,960
you pitch. I love seeing just
Strange going through all of his different forms.

1894
02:00:00,119 --> 02:00:03,199
He feels so powerful, and I
feel like it can be tricky,

1895
02:00:03,319 --> 02:00:08,560
especially when you have all these characters
like Gift Captain Carter, who's already wearing

1896
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:13,079
this like infinity armor with all the
stones. Now she is like Hella's helmet

1897
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:15,159
all of these weapons and everything.
You have Gohory with all all of her

1898
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:18,800
weapons that have been gifted, and
Strange is like still kind of like holding

1899
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:23,000
on. Obviously he's going like Dragon
form by that point, but I don't

1900
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,359
know, it just it felt like
it made sense. It's not just like

1901
02:00:25,399 --> 02:00:28,119
how the fuck is this character still
alive, you know, like throwing on

1902
02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:30,399
near at his head like it just
it felt like it. It worked.

1903
02:00:30,439 --> 02:00:32,680
So Yeah, I really really really
like this family. I like the villain

1904
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:38,119
and yeah, just liked all of
it. Really really emotional end with Steve

1905
02:00:38,199 --> 02:00:41,520
there with the time Stone. I
like how that was kind of plucked from

1906
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:45,199
Infinity War there, like that version
with the Wakanda shields and everything. Just

1907
02:00:45,239 --> 02:00:48,199
a really cool look, so it
was cool to have that back. Yeah,

1908
02:00:48,199 --> 02:00:53,239
I guess I'm gonna be the contrarian
here on this one. But yeah,

1909
02:00:53,239 --> 02:00:56,600
this this episode really didn't work for
me. I think there's a few

1910
02:00:57,079 --> 02:01:00,960
reasons why I want is. I
didn't feel like like this is such a

1911
02:01:00,079 --> 02:01:04,680
huge event. There's so many characters
in here in this the scale and scope

1912
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,199
of it is huge, But I
didn't really feel like it was kind of

1913
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:11,239
earned. It felt like we just
randomly went here, and yes, you

1914
02:01:11,319 --> 02:01:15,000
have the thing where he scoops Captain
Carter out of the end of that episode.

1915
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,560
In Kahti, we talked about how
they grabs her from her timeline,

1916
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,640
but like, I didn't really feel
like we were building up to this.

1917
02:01:20,199 --> 02:01:23,800
Uh, this felt like such a
huge, huge stakes and all that.

1918
02:01:25,399 --> 02:01:28,159
I also, I just don't really
get his plan, Like he's capturing all

1919
02:01:28,159 --> 02:01:31,920
these people, uh, and then
and then what like he's gonna like create

1920
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:35,800
a new timeline or what was his
plan exactly? How is he gonna like

1921
02:01:36,159 --> 02:01:43,199
re resurgence his universe or something like
that? But like what's that? So

1922
02:01:43,239 --> 02:01:46,560
he he can't do the plan because
Khati is like stuck in this She's like

1923
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:51,840
running around this icy field and he
needs he's captured all these villains and stuff,

1924
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:56,479
but like he can't get her in
this field, so he sends Carter

1925
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,399
Like it just felt weird. It
doesn't really make any sense to me,

1926
02:01:59,479 --> 02:02:01,840
Like why why what his plan?
Why can't he do his plan until he

1927
02:02:02,119 --> 02:02:05,880
captures her? I guess because she
could like stop him or something. I

1928
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:10,119
don't know. It doesn't work for
me. It doesn't really plot wise,

1929
02:02:10,439 --> 02:02:14,640
doesn't really make any sense. And
then I think for me, just like

1930
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,279
we get the moment where everyone's breaking
out of their little orbs here and you

1931
02:02:17,319 --> 02:02:19,560
have these fights that are going on, but they're all like all in the

1932
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:23,640
background, and I feel like we
don't actually really get any fun scenarios,

1933
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:26,760
Like I kind of pause and was
trying to look at stuff going on in

1934
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:29,600
the background, like one of them
like Star Wars just there and he just

1935
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:32,760
like he's standing like a fucking mannequin, just like shoots a couple of shots

1936
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,600
off, Like none of it's very
exciting. And you get a couple like

1937
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:40,840
cool looking versions of characters, but
nothing actually fun happens, and you don't

1938
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,199
like talk to any of them.
There's no like character beats between them.

1939
02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:45,119
They're just kind of there. You
get like the moment with Wanda being kind

1940
02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:47,760
of the zombie goddess, and that's
sort of fun, but other than that,

1941
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:53,520
there's not really too many exciting things
going on. And then particularly just

1942
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:57,560
the battle at the end with COHORTI
keeps saying her name differently, but I

1943
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:01,119
don't know how it's pronounced. And
and Carter and they're like standing on this

1944
02:03:01,159 --> 02:03:05,319
platform and it's just I swear,
like fifteen minutes of just them like shooting

1945
02:03:05,319 --> 02:03:10,119
beams at Strange and they're and he's
shooting beams at them. There's a lot

1946
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:12,079
of beams and like, don't get
me wrong, I love a good beam,

1947
02:03:12,399 --> 02:03:15,000
but it was a lot of beams
and then all the dialogue from Strange

1948
02:03:15,159 --> 02:03:19,479
is like I'm gonna kill you,
You're gonna lose, Like it's all just

1949
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:25,039
super generic dialogue. So I just
feel like it was Maybe it was.

1950
02:03:25,439 --> 02:03:28,640
It's this huge thing and it should
be, but itn't really felt built up

1951
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:30,520
to. And then just the execution
to me was was really weak in this

1952
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:33,600
episode. So there's a couple of
cool moments, of course, because you

1953
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,520
get all these characters and whatnot,
But for the most part, I was

1954
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:42,720
pretty disappointed with this. It didn't
really conclude the season in a nice way

1955
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:44,680
for me. I like the moment
with Captain Carter at the end. That's

1956
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:48,359
nice for her character, but the
Strange stuff was kind of a flop for

1957
02:03:48,399 --> 02:03:54,079
me, unfortunately. But I'm glad
you guys enjoyed it. Yeah, anything

1958
02:03:54,119 --> 02:03:59,000
else on this episode, I don't
think so. All right. I love

1959
02:03:59,079 --> 02:04:03,479
Killmonger's armor by the way, with
the yeah sweet ye a fun little camera

1960
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:06,680
to get him easily. She just
removed him from his armor too. Oh

1961
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:11,760
yeah he got destroyed, yeah big
season one and then yeah he got rown

1962
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:14,920
and you got fan hose by Ultron. So yeah, I don't know if

1963
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:16,680
I that I liked the idea of
he goes and snaps when I snaps.

1964
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:21,920
That was cool. But yeah,
I'm still two thumbs up for even little

1965
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:28,239
Megan aves. I got thumb down
for me. Oh two thumbs two erect

1966
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:33,199
to erect. So there you go, all right, til must give me

1967
02:04:33,319 --> 02:04:40,439
your ranking of these episodes. Number
nine is Nebula uh the Detective. Number

1968
02:04:40,439 --> 02:04:45,760
eight is the Strange Supreme Finale here. Number seven is Cocadi's Origin story.

1969
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:50,159
Number six is Happy Saves Christmas.
Number five Hella and the Ten Rings.

1970
02:04:50,239 --> 02:04:57,800
Number four is Peter Quill and Ego. Number three is Captain Carter's. Episode

1971
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:01,239
Number two is iron Man on to
Car number one Avengers in sixteen O two.

1972
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:08,479
Nice, okay. Starting number nine, I got Peter Quill Attacked Earth

1973
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:15,600
Mighty as Hero. Number eight Carter
versus hydro Stopper number seven, Grand Master

1974
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:19,000
episode number six, I got the
Novacre episode. Like, I just kind

1975
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:23,399
of deviated the names here. I
don't know how accurate they are to the

1976
02:05:23,439 --> 02:05:29,399
actual titles, but anyways, Number
five I have the The Conquista Door episode

1977
02:05:30,079 --> 02:05:34,680
number four, the Strange Supreme Finale. Number three, Hella and the Ten

1978
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:40,800
Rings number two sixteen O two and
number one Happy Saves Christmas. That was

1979
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:45,359
that was a great time. I
feel like it just really like aligned well

1980
02:05:45,399 --> 02:05:46,840
with the Christmas spirit too. I
was just still in that mode. So

1981
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,560
yeah, that was a fun one
for sure. Did that one drop on

1982
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:54,279
Christmas Day? It must have right
before, Oh it didn't. It was

1983
02:05:54,359 --> 02:05:57,920
Christmas Eve? That fair. We'll
get it. You watched all together and

1984
02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:01,760
stuff. So I'll go Taylor for
the last because you never know. Number

1985
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:08,039
nine Nebula joined the Novacorps. Number
eight, Hella found the ten Rings.

1986
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:15,479
Number seven of Cora rehived the world. Number six, Happy Hogan Saves Christmas

1987
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,319
Number five. Peter Quill at tax
Ers Mice Heroes number four, Kepta Carter

1988
02:06:19,479 --> 02:06:26,800
fought the Hydrostomper Number three I R. Man crash into the Grand Master number

1989
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:31,199
two Avengers in sixteen o two and
number one. What if Strange Supreme intervened

1990
02:06:31,359 --> 02:06:34,920
or interfered, whatever you want to
call it, but he's doing something intervened,

1991
02:06:35,319 --> 02:06:41,279
interfered, interfering. Oh dare you
interfere with my finale? Yeah that'll

1992
02:06:41,319 --> 02:06:47,079
be next season three? All right? Number ninees there for a second,

1993
02:06:47,359 --> 02:06:51,680
all right, hard to get wet, they get wet? Uh. Peter

1994
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:59,560
Quill attacking rist mighty Zeros nine number
nine for you damn Number eight. Nebula

1995
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:06,800
joins the Noble Chorrel Number seven,
Captain Carter Carter car tough interfer the cartographer.

1996
02:07:09,479 --> 02:07:17,359
You are now Hydrosoffer that's number seven. Number six, Iron Men crashes

1997
02:07:17,399 --> 02:07:23,479
into the grand Master number five,
happy Hope and saves Christmas. Number four

1998
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Hella finds the ten Rings. Number
three Gorre reshapes the world. Number two

1999
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What if Strange Supreme interfered intervened?
Everyone call it number one Avengers assembled in

2000
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sixteen oh two. Yeah, here
we go, so lazy gentlemen, so

2001
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damn s you draft has come to
a hall. We're not sure we' gonna

2002
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talk about I don't if we're gonna
do it next year, because we do

2003
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got some shows. We'll see,
we got spermin fresh. We'll do it.

2004
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Yeah, it will be a more
different year. Should include the Sony

2005
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verse. I think that would be
a fund, be sure, like what

2006
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four hundred? Yeah? Alright,
So in last place with fifty five points

2007
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was taylor Field. You got five
for war Machine, twenty five for Gomorra

2008
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for the Darnas movie, five for
appearance here. You got negative five because

2009
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:20,119
Modoc died, you got a five
for Cosmo, you got a and you

2010
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got a couple of fives for Howard
the Duck, so fifty five for you.

2011
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I was third at one seventy five, with Loki getting me an appearance

2012
02:08:30,279 --> 02:08:35,039
point and a starring point Captain Marvel's
starring point twenty five, star Lord twenty

2013
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five and five was with twenty five
grow to twenty five drags of twenty five

2014
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nothing for Sam Wilson, and then
I got three fives from four. Dylan

2015
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was second place with one ninety five, twenty five for Nick Fury for Secret

2016
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Invasion, five appearance points, twenty
five for ant Man, five for an

2017
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appearance in What If? Twenty five
for Miss Marvel No what of appearance here?

2018
02:08:58,199 --> 02:09:01,560
But Monica Rabou twenty five and then
he got a nice, juicy end

2019
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:05,920
credit appearance because she was with in
the Marvels, right, so you had

2020
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:09,479
that nice and then uh Rocket alsously
was a star, so you got twenty

2021
02:09:09,479 --> 02:09:13,439
five. Nebula you got two stars
because she had her own episode and was

2022
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a Guardian's star, so you got
one ninety five, and then I guess

2023
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Kirkland wins with like an infinite amount
if Kang didn't was there. If Kang

2024
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wasn't there, he had sixty five. Because other than Kang, you had

2025
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a lot of people that did not
get votes. You had echoed that got

2026
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delayed. You know, I still
argue because they did say Loki, they

2027
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jumped sixteenth centuries, so I would
argue that Kang also died that many times

2028
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because you know, he was there. So I'm gonna say it's a flaw.

2029
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That's what I'm gonna say. Dylan
come People's champion because he you know,

2030
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he got the one Night five.
But I think I won last year

2031
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too, didn't I There you go? So now maybe Sony versuscality. I'm

2032
02:09:48,199 --> 02:09:52,800
a two year two years Yeah,
good job, Kirklan, And I think

2033
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when we do the MC draft wills
to do that on there. We should.

2034
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:58,119
Fuck We're gonna have to do that
before h echo, so I have

2035
02:09:58,159 --> 02:10:01,640
to turn some count. Yeah,
that's coming out quick. We also,

2036
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yeah, off air, we gotta
quickly talk about something about ECO too.

2037
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:07,960
But yeah, we should probably figure
out what we're gonna do with the TV

2038
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points because you can't have like,
let's say, if I pick Wolf Raine

2039
02:10:11,279 --> 02:10:13,680
and he's in every X Men episode, you can't have twenty five for each,

2040
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:16,119
right, So we got to figure
out for maybe we might have it

2041
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:22,560
with the animated because we got rumored
what off season three Spider Man in X

2042
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,399
Men ninety seven. Oh and we
got I don't think we tell us on

2043
02:10:24,439 --> 02:10:28,359
news the Black Amber show coming out
to animated show coming out next year.

2044
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,039
I didn't hear about that. Yeah, I got announce two weeks ago Eyes

2045
02:10:31,039 --> 02:10:35,039
of Wakonda or something like that.
So we'll have to talk about what we

2046
02:10:35,039 --> 02:10:37,680
could do with the animated ones,
because we'll get six one six Wakanda going

2047
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:41,840
on here the same. They haven't
said much. There's a little like a

2048
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:46,000
little it's I think it is six
one six and I think it's stories about

2049
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:50,439
Wakanda, so it could be yeah, T'Challa Junior or to Chaka, stuff

2050
02:10:50,479 --> 02:10:52,920
like that. So yeah, well
we'll do that all live on air,

2051
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as we always do. So we'll
figure that out. But thank you very

2052
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much for tuning in a longer one
for what if. Let us know your

2053
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thoughts and the disc ord the patroon
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2054
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you want to talk to us,
wherever you want to interfere, we're here.

2055
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We'll be back next week soon we'll
be you know, video game twenty

2056
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twenty four, preview movies. We're
gonna do a bunch of rankings and everything.

2057
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So it's gonna be fun time a
new draft, and it will not

2058
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be boring about