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Okay, let's talk about some Marvel
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of spit spitfire, random fire,
I don't know whatever, what would it

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be? God, I used to
I didn't have a segment trushall. I

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used to have to say, right, I had the box office breakdown and

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then I had what else did I
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Yeah? The rapid fire. So
last week there was a rumor coming

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out that Kang now Marvel is considering
our talking with John David Washington some of

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a couple of minds here where one? Okay, three? Yeah, I

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guess three, son of a couple
one. I said this in the Marvel

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Predictions. So go check out Marvel
Alliance. I was on their last two

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weeks on their episode two hundred.
Great time with those guys. Always have

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a fun time just catching up when
them talking Marvel because we're all friends.

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But we got good different opinions and
we stand very much on different sides,

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which is good, you know.
And I love those guys over there.

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So and then again, congrats to
two hundred because I was I won't say

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a small part, but I was
like the first to get it going with

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Chris. But now they've taken it
and you know, done great things with

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it. So and sorry, I
need some war there. So on that

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episode on the Predictions one, I
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replacement for Kang in twenty twenty four. So I don't think I said the

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givers and I'm standing by it.
I still think you could get like,

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let's say it is John Day Washington, John David and Dawn John David Washington

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cast in Avengers five, right where
it just secret Wars, right, unknown

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role that doesn't count to me.
They're not going to physically or put an

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out there that, Okay, he's
playing Kang this year. I think they

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want to get some time in between, and if they do get out somebody,

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it'll be in an unknown role as
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Right, So that's one part of
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Washing is great. I feel like
he's still looking for I won't say his

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footing, but he's had a very
interesting career where he blows up because of

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oh gosh, what is the movie? Spike leewent an oscar for clans Man

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Black Clansmen. Right, it seems
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more like his dad do the earlier
stuff like some more Oscar Indie sort of

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route, and now it's like,
okay, well he did the Creator and

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there was set and he did Tenant, which tennants Nolan, so really can't

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pass it up. But like,
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of big stuff, but he's not
exactly blown up yet, right, He's

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not to that that top echelon movie
where I think people are gonna go out

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to the'll see a movie. This
could help him. And I think he's

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a great actor. I think he's
I think he's good. I don't know.

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I don't know what his take would
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to see it. I do think
Majors when he had the role, was

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like a higher quality actor than him
from what we've seen so far, So

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I do think it would be good. But it wasn't like a right away

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like oh my god, yes,
but tons of people have been suggesting it

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right and maybe maybe it's just one
of those that's like a fan cast that

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for me, it's there's certain fancasts, like when Rosie Dawson was being fancast

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Aska, I was on board for
that, so I was like, oh,

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absolutely, that sounds great. Where
when John Krazinski is getting at for

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Reid, I was like, no, I don't like this, and I'm

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just I don't see it the same
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that's it for me where it's just
like the fancast has happened so much and

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it hasn't been like an automatic Oh
my god, this would be amazing for

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me to be like, yeah,
okay, that works. He's a good

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actor, and maybe I'd be completely
wrong. Maybe when he does the role,

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he knocks a home run. Right. I think it is the other

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thing that it's not so much a
fan cast. It's just that that other

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idea got put in my head.
And yes, superminded Mike says, right

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there, hashtag team Coleman Domingo.
That's really tough because for me, just

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from what I've seen based on Majors
and Washington so far, I think Washington

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could at best match him. I
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and I think it would almost be
a similar version. I think with

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Domingo he could one like even do
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whole different vibe where Johnny Washington just
doesn't have that yet. He's good,

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but he just doesn't have that game
changing vibe. Coleman would fucking just like

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he would kill it and I would
love like. I just think that's something

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that he would bring so much gravitass
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to him anytime he's on screen.
I feel like you'd be chewing the sceni

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or in a good way. So
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king, especially now. So that's
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just that they're early on or it's
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just be that's early on. They're
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kind of worried about because he's in
that Michael Jackson movie and then he's directing

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a movie where he's starring as that
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getting delayed quite a while, his
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a bit. You're especially directing movie
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gang cole but he's gonna be directing
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So if it's Washington, fine,
If it's not, hopefully just another

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great actor. Ah shit, fucking
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told you not to, didn't I? But you fucked around and found out,

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didn't you miss the stock? That's
my best. As I've said before,

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I need to watch You for You
and watch Ali because with me got

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Kirkland did the four review. I
had it down pat pretty good. I've

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lost it because I haven't seen You
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uh yeah, we'll see And then
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Uh One, there's a rumor going
around that Iron Fist is uh you've been

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working. I've been trying. I've
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of him coming back or being in
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But hey, when your four season
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I can't wait for those reviews.
So there's rumor going around that Iron Fist

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is coming back, but not what
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be getting and it's gonna this is
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but it's rumored to be getting a
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a female iron fist. Gee,
I wonder who got could be. I

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think it's just gonna I said,
I think Marvel Alliance. We were on

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the same wavelength. I've been saying
this for a while. It's not gonna

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be Danny Ran, It's gonna be
Clean Wing. And Jessica Henwick has gone

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bigger since then. She was in
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and she's in that uh that road
trip when we coming up WHI. I

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don't know it's gonna blow up,
but I'm excited. It's Jennifer Garner.

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I think you're Julie Gardner. Yeah, that's the one. Her star is

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rising. Where I was saying that
me and my wife are talking, just

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said, like, no one,
that's not really happened with anyone from Netflix,

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right, Like I'm not saying they
haven't been other things. Bertha was

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already a star, so he doesn't
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he's in the play Mood Jar Butler
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did she started to work with these
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for me, that's the easy play
they made Marvel, Netflix, Cannon.

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It's an easy route to go.
And also the street level stuff, which

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we're gonna talk about, that's the
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street level with the occasional bigger show, like we've heard rumors about a young

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Avengers. Fine, that's okay,
take the risk every once in a while,

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but money wise, exposure wise,
and I just think what they can

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do. I think Marvel and Netflix
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that were picking were the more street
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should do now too. I think
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couple other shows. I'm not saying
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we've seen what the limit is right
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a second. And you know,
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go back to geek first. And
I was telling them all this because I

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feel like I don't talk about them
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Moon Night and Iron Fist, because
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if there are my top Moon Night's
and my top ten characters. I don't

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think Iron Fist is top ten Marvel
maybe and Danny Ran specifically, but I

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feel like I talk about them less
on the cast when interpretation comes out and

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it's just kind of mid and then
I have to move on because we've where

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it's always like, oh, fucking
Moon and now Ran to Ran or fucking

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Danny Ran after Netflix. It just
sucks that, Like, I wish they

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would just recast Danny Wan and we
could get Iron Fist back. I love

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Iron Fist, and he's gone that
terrible situation where bad movie, bad TV

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show, bad kombook storyline and he
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Right, It's like, I don't
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and I love Danny Ran. I
think there was bright spots Iron Fists

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and Defenders, but we didn't get
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So that's such a bummer. I'm
fine with this. I'm not gonna be

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red. I thumb. Now,
Oh my god, there's a woman I

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worst didn't know. It's like,
cool, let's get Iron Fist. Hopefully

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one day we will see Danny Rand, but I worre it's gonna be like

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the way we got scopped or we
got Hank Pam where it's like, oh,

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I'm in my retired years now,
you know, And who knows Cuz

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I've said this before. I'm curious
with the first Marvel Netflix recast is gonna

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be right, And people might be
like, oh, well Vanessa, No

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no, no, don't count Vanessa
because Vanessa that was before, or everything

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was cannon right, everything's supposedly cannon
now. So I'm curious to see Luke

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Cage, Iron Fist, maybe even
one of the villains. Who's gonna get

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that official recast or they not.
And that's where we won't learn it iron

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Fists, because if they're bringing a
female version, you don't got to talk

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about Danny Ran. You don't gotta
you don't got a recast, you don't

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gotta stays alive, dead, missing, whatever, it doesn't matter. It's

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a different Iron Fists. I'm sure
they had mentioned him. I hope they

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don't kill him, but you can
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right Supermke says would be awesome if
they could full moonight in Netflix stuff,

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but feels like they went too big
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That's I have many complaints with Moonnight,

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and I always say this too.
Where Moonnight that is definitely a case

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where there's stuff like secret invasion and
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to extent where there's stuff in there
writing and story wise where I go,

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this is not good. This is
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Moonnight definitely has that. I think
it has portions and you go back to

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our reviews, it has portions where
it's rushed, poorly written, We're lacking

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some character stuff, not the performance
and the personalities, which is like even

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some more development, and then I
can fully emit my bias where and then

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the other part of it is not
that it's like, oh, you have

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to do what I want. I've
course won more the street level Graham Moon

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Night. It's just okay, you're
not doing that's fine. What's the counter?

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What are you doing? And how
good is it? And then to

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me when you do the different version
and it's just kind of fine. That's

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where I fully emit my disappointment comes
in there, and I do think that

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they got that. That's just like
MCU Phase four, they were obsessed with

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fucking universe. Like world ending threats
after endgame. I don't get it.

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I don't know why that happened.
Why is there big alligator in Egypt?

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But I digress. Right, They
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went with the character suffering from the
personality disorder in the streets. Keep and

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you know why as well? Keep
it simpler because storyline wise, I don't

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think they really had it. So
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Sung, she is a street level
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where Isy it's too late. It's
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or Sung. She's the difference,
because at least to me, that's universally

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loved Moonnight. I don't know.
I feel like i'd I have to start

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asking more like general audience people how
they feel her if they watch Moonnight,

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because I feel like in my camp
it's like a mix. I feel like

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people really like it, like I
know Chris, I think I know Brent,

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Like do I feel like Chris liked
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But then there's a lot of other
people that are more on my side.

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Were man, what a do like
start really good? But what a disappointment?

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Like there's this wrong with it this
wrong with that, so Moonight,

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I don't have a gauge of where
the ga is Sung She I got to

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gauge there. I think Sung She
is overrated. I don't think it's one

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of the best MSU projects. I
think people are way too high on it,

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and for people that so many people
and not the Marvel fans, which

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people in general that are if you'l
Marvel like people. When I go on

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the locker stream right with with like, they'll talk about Sungshi and when I

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bring up the issues it has,
and I'm like, well, that's just

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like every other Marvel film, so
like, why do you shoot on this

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one so much? But this was
like I never get it. But what

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I can say is I'm in the
minority. I can say everyone fucking loves

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Sung Shehi. You can't. And
I also went too big like Moonnight,

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but you can't do a TV show
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just still like a rumor, but
it's a higher tier now. I do

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have to say, as I take
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know the exact sourcing, but I
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about that it's a good scuttle,
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So there is a report that Echo
costs forty million to make good and bad

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here good fucking Secret of Major costs
five million more than Avengers. And that

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was a complete waste of sink or
just waste of money, sinkhole money laundry

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scheme. Perhaps, I don't know. There shows a bit and outrageous for

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what the return is supposed to get
at The subscribers are not They're not worth

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it that much, right the numbers
they have, so that is good that

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it's not this one fifty two hundred
million everything like that. That is really

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good. So at first when I
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out that's what you gotta do.
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and I googled what does Gamer Thrones
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reports, but I went with the
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most and even like it's kind of
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I think it was ninety millions,
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eleven point five million dollars. I
did the math for Echo and for that

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so Game of Thrones final season that's
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point seventy five or eleven point five
biggest show in the world. Show that

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as multiple characters, that actors have
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from multiple seasons, so you know, their contracts go up, and huge

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set pieces CGI drainings of the yin
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on television. Eleven point five Echo
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I was talking about this in the
GA and Brent brought up a fantastic

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point. So this could be to
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COVID prodigals, prods, protocols.
Absolutely right, COVID that's all. You

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know, it's still a factor,
and just the protocols, that's still a

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thing, right, especially sometimes some
countries get new up strains and you go,

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okay, fuck is it starting again? So that's one. And reshoots

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because they did do reshoots. We
heard about that, right, Marvel always

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does reshoots, so you could say
that's the blooming of it. I still

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think that is way too much for
Echo. It'd be different if you were

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to tell me secret invasions for a
ma I go ban. They did a

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great job go other than some of
those shots of them in the fucking like

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at the beginning, or it's the
ancestories is the blue like forest garden whatever

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you know, and all the echoes. Where's all that money going if it's

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not on the protocol If it's because
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would get there, I don't think
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That seems a lot, so maybe
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just like it's practical sets. There's
really no superpowers. None of these people

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are big stars. It's all okay, like that's still where I go.

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I know that they might feel no, when we put out a movie has

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to be something big. If you
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guess still on Hulu, I don't
think it brought anybody in. Now,

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there were stats a couple of weeks
ago that showed like Hawkeye season is,

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Daredevil's other shows went up because people
want to go check those out after Echo

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right or before? Does that make
sense? But that could also just be

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a subscriber base. Like I've said
this before, Kirkland and Taylor have Disney

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Plus. They've never watched Daredevil,
so a lot of those could still be

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Disney Plus people that, oh,
I'm gonna watch this now. I don't

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think Echo like drew a massive subscription
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Neither The Secret Invasion neither did Miss
Marvel, you know. So I'm not

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saying, oh, it's Echo's fall. I'm just saying, when you're spending

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forty million, I guarantees a strong
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I guarantee you the forty million,
five episode show versus the forty million

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small, lower budget Daredevil movie,
you're gonna make way more profit on the

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Daredevil movie. I guarantee you that
can at least break even. And then

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you're gonna put on Disney Plus merchandise. Like I think if you make it

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like John Wicks style, you could
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great, that's like doubling it,
and so that might cover advertising and then

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twenty million on top. Like,
I just don't think the forty million is

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stuff that that does like, it's
better. It's definitely better. No,

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Disney Plus especially now, should be
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now when they go and say,
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we've lowered the budgets, we've got
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eight nine digits, forty million,
okay, that's great. What did it

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get us? Though? You know, and I do get it as well.

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A we've talked about many times.
This was in the era where Chappik

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was there and Fily got the edict
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get as much stuff out there as
possible. Right, some people downplay

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that. And sure you can say
like, that's not excuse, bake the

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content better. Fine, but that's
what was the cars that were dealt.

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So I'm interested in going forward,
not iron Heart or God didn't they shoot

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another Agatha because those could be outrageous
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and even Daredevil that's a bad one
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lot of it, so that's gonna
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even though as much as I love
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Is it worth a dualo show?
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Or maybe you should just made a
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we'll see. Look at this one
here, just keep coming back to get

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me. We'll see. But I
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to me. That is only three
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million lesson Game of Thrones. Like
I said, Game of Thrones at all

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these actors, massive set pieces,
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world. When people talk about Game
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getting this big budget, everyone kind
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oh, yeah, it's getting that
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A show getting three million lesson that
like per episode. I know the

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reporters there happened. Number is great. I still have not met any one

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of my personal life that as met. We were talking about this last time

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with my sister and boyfriend. Had
no fucking clue what echo was because we're

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talking about what are you watching?
What are you watching? I was trying

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to get them watch Jury Duty because
we're watching the bear Watch Jury Duty.

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Don't recommend that great show. So
I don't know, we'll see. We'll

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be right back with some trailers and
then it's wrestling