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Vacations. I ever wanted vacation,
had to get away. I know they

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were a little what I don't know, a week late, Mac, but

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both party a little party to the
party. But both of us have recently

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gone on vacation. How was yours, lovely go I'm one of those types

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now, I don't know about you. I'm one of those types that all

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I want to do on vacation is
relax, maybe drink, maybe do an

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activity or two. I am for
sure not one of those people that go

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on vacation then plan thirty things,
including fifteen hikes. That's not me at

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all. I don't know about you. Yeah, my vacation went a little

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family trip. You know, we
didn't get sick of each other by the

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end. Definitely not. Also,
you know, I might need another vacation

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after that's so so tired. I'm
so love you know. I was asleep,

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So I have a three year old
son. I was asleep every night

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by nine thirty, don't get me
wrong. Don't get me wrong. I

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was brody, bruising it. I
had a little cup with me at all

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time, so I was properly lubricated. But I'm just so so tired.

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When I got back. I was
like, I need more days. There's

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nothing, nothing better, And I
get shit on all the time for this.

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I like day drinking, going to
bed early. I hate staying up

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late. Hate it. I do
it in my regular life often, like

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sometimes at home, I don't get
to bed till midnight one o'clock. But

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I would prefer to get to bed
early while enjoying the fun and the sun.

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I much prefer that over staying up
till four yem that's for sure.

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One three year, just three,
King of Queen and Middle Street Entertainment,

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Goo Mack ready to talk. Turtles
r r rong outfit? Well, yeah,

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you wore unless you have a pink
one of those. I don't.

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I do not. I'm glad.
Real visual gag there for the folks at

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home who was wearing a turtle's eyemask
there, Yes, made for a child?

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Did not fit my face? Well
it almost did? Ye good.

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Today we are talking about and I
was thinking about this now. It's It's

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not um either of our favorite movie
of the year. But I would say,

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based on the way we reacted to
this movie throughout the year leading up

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to it, that this was the
most anticipated release of twenty twenty three for

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us, I would say that it
was one of them just out of curiosity,

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That's what I mean. Today we're
talking about Barbie, and I'll tell

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you what good this a Barbie.
This is a movie that well, First

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of all, I actually think they
announced this like four years ago. Then

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COVID happened, But Robbie has been
attached to this project for a long time

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after Schumer. Once I learned that, yes, correct, once I learned

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that Greta gerr Wig was going to
be directing it. She of course directed

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Ladybird, which I loved, one
of my favorite movies in the last decade.

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It was A Little Women, which
did really well. Then I was

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like, Okay, there's like something
to this. Isn't just gonna be some

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goofy nonsense, Like there's gonna be
like a good heart to this movie,

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which Gerwig has done really well in
the past. Go I would say,

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after seeing this movie, I don't
think that she could have made a better

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version of this movie. I think
it could have been a less a little

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less bashing you over the head,
a little less um. I think they

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could have punched up the jokes a
little bit more too. Yeah, But

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also again it's Barbie. We're talking
about. It Isie. So they had

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to be a certain amount silly with
it too, right, And I'll tell

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you this right now. I enjoy
the fact that most of this movie felt

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like a twelve fifty five sketch on
SNL. Yeah, and then when Gerg

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worked in the emotional moments, at
least for me, I think it worked

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really well. Maybe for some it
didn't. I think it was hit or

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miss for me. Go Barbie is
a PG thirteen adventure comedy and fantasy with

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a runtime of one hundred and fourteen
minutes, just under two hours. I

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do think there's a tad bit of
a lull in here, and the emotional

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moments might slow it down, But
I don't think you can cut much out

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of this movie. I think I
think there's a bunch you could cut out

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because they have like six different storylines
going on at once, and you could

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have I'm sorry, what is happening
with your face? Do you want to

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call a time out? What do
you mean? A bunch you could cut

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out of this movie. There's like
five different storylines going on at once.

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You don't need to have all them
in there. There's two storylines and you

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could argue there's a C story as
well. There's like at least a D,

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maybe an E. How many letters
are there twenty six? I just

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count twenty six, so there's twenty
six different storylines going on at once.

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There's an A, B, and
C story like most stories have. Why

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don't You ABC your way out of
Here? On Rotten Tomatoes currently go eighty

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eight percent from the critics, eighty
four percent from the audience on Metacritic at

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eighty so this is universally liked.
And the main blowback from this movie has

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been from the far right, saying
that it promotes everyone wanting to be gay,

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it promotes down with the patriarchy.
So this movie stinks. I'll tell

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you what. I don't know if
there's gonna be ever a movie for those

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folks, So don't see movies if
that's your reaction. Well, that one

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about the kidnapping. They're really into
that one right now. Yeah goo.

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Like I said before, this movie
is written by Greta Gerwick, who wrote

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Ladybird and Little Women, also written
by Noah Bomback, who her husband.

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These two her husband wife too,
Yeah, occasionally worked together. Noah Bomback

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is actually the writer from the Life
Aquatic, which studs sue very underrated film,

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Fantastic Mister Fox. Great film Madagascar
three, one of your favorites to

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do a marriage story, which I
liked more than most. This is directed

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by just Gerwig. No no direction
from Bomback. I would know her from

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How I Met Your Dad? Yes, there you go. She actually did.

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Yes, she was the star.
Yeah, I think she directed it

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as well. I don't think she
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I think she also directed it.
Maybe that seems like a tall task

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to be the star and director of
a sitcom. Was a sitcom? Yeah,

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it's a sitcom, How I Met
Your Dad. It was the follow

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up to How I Met Your Mother. I thought it was just a one

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off. All right, Well it
only got one episode. It did not

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go along. Okay, well there
you go. So then is that why

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they reboot it with the Hillary Duff
one? Same idea? Okay, your

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favorite? Yeah, yeah, I
love. I mean, who's who doesn't

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like Hillary Duff? Oh yeah,
I would say. I would say every

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gender and every race on this planet
is a fan of Hillary Duff. She

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was great and Gossip Girl synopsis.
Barbie suffers a crisis that leads her to

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question her world and her existence,
essentially an existential crisis she has in this

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movie. And I thought the way
in which the way in which is exposed

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itself, the way that it's brought
upon us, is done well. And

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then when you find out how it's
really happening, which Barbie didn't think was

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the case, I thought that was
a nice little touch on everything, dude.

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This movie stars Margot Robbie as Barbie, Ryan Gosling as Ken and before

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I get to everyone else, two
of the best acting performances of the year.

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If I hadn't seen Oppenheimer prior to
recording this, I would I think

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you could make an argument for either
one, especially Robbie being the best killing

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Murphy and Oppenheimer was incredible, But
Robbie and goslingen here are fucking incredible.

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I think it's very well casted.
I'm not sure if I think it's the

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best performances on the year, two
of the best. I mean, you

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could put it up there, but
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Yeah, I would say, for
sure, Okay, that's fine,

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you can do whatever you want.
Good. Also in this movie, Issa

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Ray as Barbie. She's President Barbie. Kate McKinnon as Barbie, Weird Barbie,

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Alexandra Ship as she was like the
Nobel Peace Prizing winning Barbie. She's

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the Barbie that's stole my heart.
She is very attractive. Emma Mackie is

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Barbie, Harry Neff as Barbie,
Sharon Rooney as Barbie, Anya cruz Kane

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as Barbie, Rita Ariyah as Barbie, Duelipa as Mermaid Barbie, Nicole Coughlin

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as Barbie, and then Emerald Fennel
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Now that was a good joke.
I did like the Mitch joke. We

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also have more Ken's in here,
Cemu Louis Ken, Kingsley benn aderes Ken

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and Coody Goattwa as Ken, Scott
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Ken, and Michael Sarah as Alan. I liked Allen as well. Alan

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and Midge were really nice add ons
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more the essentially the real people we
get in here is America Ferrera as Gloria,

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the mother to Arianna Greenblatt's Sasha.
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That was my that's my biggest drawback
of this whole thing, which we'll

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get to we talk about the movie
that the inclusion of all that I thought

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was bizarre. Helen Mirren as the
narrator in here, which is one of

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my favorite things. The movie did
a couple funny lines. Great job Will

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Farrell as Mattel's CEO, and then
Connor Swindel's as Aaron Dinkins. He is

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the Mattel worker in the basement there
that figures out what's going on. Yeah,

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they were all in it. I
think I'm sorry, and not to

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harsh your mellow here. Yeah.
Yeah, but I think outside of the

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first two, they're outside of Robbie
and Gosling, I think the rest is

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almost all interchangeable. Cameos Oh.
I loved Siemulu. I thought he was

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I thought he was okay. But
I think you got it's that flat line

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of Wars. That day when you
saw this movie. Is that No.

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I had a great day for dinner
at the theater. I had vodka,

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sodas and popcorn. I don't understand. I don't get it. You were

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you might have been most excited to
see this movie. Is that why I

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don't understand I did join a Barbie
cult. Maybe I have broken free from

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the cult. I don't know what
happened. You have someone's there's some some

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foul play at a foot here.
Do this story to me? And maybe

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some people don't like this aspect because
it's not quote unquote, it's not the

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most original story you've ever seen.
Correct. This is like sort of a

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Pinocchio meets a toy story. Those
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weird love child of those two stories. Um, so you've definitely seen elements

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of everything in here before. It's
just a new spin on it. But

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I think that, like Barbie is
a ridiculous toy and they and they really

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lean into that and they talk about
that, and so there are ridiculous elements

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of this movie. So I really
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certain toys, and I feel like
Barbie was a great candidate for it.

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It'll be great with Polly Pocket,
with Slinky, with Mattel's Hot Wheels,

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with Let's see here. Uno describe
the Uno movie to me. If you

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take a card that says draw for
more, You're gonna die. So it's

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like a it's like a home to
first, second, third. It's a

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lot like Russian Roulette. It's a
big Russian Roulette. Uno game is it'd

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be a lot of splatter go.
The music of this movie I thought was

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great, great use of music in
here, very catchy music as well.

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I liked the opening Lizzo slash,
like the reintroduction of it with like the

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different lyrics. I enjoyed that.
I thought everything du Aalipa in this movie

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v just didn't feel right. The
song didn't feel right. Her as mermaid

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didn't feel right. I just didn't
like, do you aacking me personally right

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now? I'm trying to attack you
right now? You say, boy,

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why would du Elipa even stand out
to you in this movie other than me

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loving Duelipa. She couldn't even get
the dial high, Barbie. She didn't

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even sound correct saying it. That's
how mermaids talk. You. Mermaids are

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real and they're all white. You
know what? Go? Yeah, I'm

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I my I hated tena mentie.
I'm giving it thirteen hot dougs. Oh

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why would you do that to me
for the target audience? Thirteen? Uh?

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I actually not only did the Lizzo
song make me laugh, the Barbie

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the Duelippa, whatever the name of
the song is, The fucking rifts been

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stuck in my head for a week. But moreover, the Billie Eilish song

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that is used in the most emotional
moment of the film is I don't even

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really like William Eilash all that much. She's hit or miss obviously very talented,

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fucking great song. It's been it's
legit and stuck in my head for

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ten days now since the moment I
watched this, and I thought that was

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a perfect use of a song in
a movie. How about the Barbie girl

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sample, Oh the Ice Spice sung? Yeah, yeah, that was okay,

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all right, okay, but that's
a that's four notable songs right there,

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and you told me you didn't like
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very similar to Elf for a little
bit of time. But then I'm happy

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that they brought it back to Barbie
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thought this movie did a good job
of you think it's gonna go this way

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and they're like, oh, all
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instead, because I feel like if
it went the other way, that's the

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feeling you should have about the movie. But if they stayed in last movie

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Subverted Girl. If so. First
off, I think they stayed in La

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maybe a smidge too long. But
if they stayed there the entire time,

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I thought it would have stunk.
Okay, that's fair. Okay, I

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stayed in La for seven minutes.
I'm telling you the movie that's in my

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head right now. I thought this
movie has a great heart to it.

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It's a feel good movie with a
pretty good message in it. I like

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the message of you deciding your own
identity. Yes, you don't have to

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fit into this Barbie doll box that
they're trying to force you into. You

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can break the mold and become whoever
you want. I think the message of

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the movie is the best part.
No, Actually, Gosling and Robbie are

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also great, But the message is
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of me saying that it is a
good movie. I'm not saying it's bad.

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Mac. You just want me.
You're trying to put me in a

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box right now. You're trying to
tell me that I need to love this

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movie. But out of your way
to throw strays at Dua Lipa. You're

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the first person to make any comments
about Duallipa in this movie negatively. Hi,

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Barbie, she's a robot, she's
a mermaid. I didn't hear you

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say anything about John Cena and the
same thing. Oh no, let's I'm

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sorry, females, Let's get to
that cameo as well. That cameo stunk,

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oh for two in our last two
pods for John Cena not great.

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Yeah, this is a bad stretch
for Sena. Right, Yeah, he's

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gonna he's gonna do better work than
this. Yeah, dude, I think

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this very well might be the funniest
movie of the year. I laughed out

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loud throughout the entire movie. I
did go through a bunch of comedies when

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I spoke with DJ Bean about this. You can go check out the Brunch

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podcast as well, that as his
with Pete Blackburn. But I have a

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couple of movies that I do think
are funnier. I think that GEOTG three

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was funnier. I think joy Ride
was way funnier. I think that Turtles.

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I think Turtles is funnier, but
I could see the going back and

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forth on there. I think Spider
Versus funnier. I think that Air is

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funnier. So I haven't seen joy
Ride, which I do need. BlackBerry's

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funnier. BlackBerry's not funnier, but
it's specifically Howard and now everything Howarden says

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in It just kills me. Air
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is a very funny movie. I
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you know what. I think that
Renfield Renfield got me to lawmore. Redfield

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still might have single hardest laugh of
the year, although this one comes close

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when Redfield gets back to his partner
and Cage is sitting there that that's maybe

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the funniest moment of That's a great
scene. There's a great Snyder cut joke

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in this movie that I don't think
it's that funny. I think you bet

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what do your your your beta cut? Fucking we can't call each other beta

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cuts this entire episode. Mac,
oh, you look you like the Snyder

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cut? Do you would you like
when Rolling Stone put at number one by

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mistake? I did? I said, it's finally getting its proper Do get

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to the fucking gauntlet? All right, Mac, Let's get into the gauntlet

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here. Fun factor and I do
think that it is fun. It is

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very stylized and a lot of it
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think that they rush through a couple
of these storylines and they don't conclude them.

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I want, I'm gonna need you
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we get the spoilers. Okay,
one, I had an absolute blast throughout

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this movie. I think this movie
is made to be one of the more

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fun theater experiences in a while.
Makes sense because you're a beta cuck.

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Yes make shirt right now, satisfactor, Mac, And I think I'm satisfied

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by what they gave us because,
like you said earlier, this is probably

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the best that they can do with
this property. Yep, I think that.

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And I'm also very satisfied with the
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this Yeah, like when Robbie grows
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the whole real boy, real girl
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act, Now, while I do
like the dance scene, the big dance

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number, if you will not to
spoil anything, the build up to that

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dance number I thought was incredibly boring
and kind of the second act. I

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want to say that's in the third
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movie? The twenty six acts.
So in the at the end of the

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twenty first act when they introduced the
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I really like how outlandish and wild
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field. But the build up was
not great to me. I know,

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I think there's a couple of lulls
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pretend it was. There wasn't St
Angeles too, but go ahead whatever.

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I also, I do feel like
it was paced well, but there are

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a couple like head scratching moments that
are just dropped in there that I really

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didn't like. I thought you were
going to scratch your head when you said

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that, I'm like, that's great, but you were. You were taking

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sweat off your brother was wiping sweat
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I also feel like, as much
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of the movie, I could see
people not buying into those. They were

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a little over the top. But
also you feel like they were over the

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top on purpose. Was I made
fun man? Or am I a Muppet?

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Very similar to that Hallow? Are
you or are you? Barby Borometer?

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We just did that Halloween. Will
Wayne Over time. This is a

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very good question. Actually, this
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time. I'll go first. Yes, Um, I think because Barbie Barbie

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is timeless, and there's as Bart
Harley drivers, what's the other one to

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Hank Barley too or something like that, what's the fucking day Barley from my

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Dad's a pair of pants? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Give

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us the fourth Barley for our mount
Rushmore are timeless jokes in here, timeless

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references in here, and although there
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think because Barbie is timeless, this
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Equator. This is above the Aquator
folk show. I'm not a hater,

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Mac, I'm a realist. Okay, sure, No, I'm telling you

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credit union. Who would you like
to give credit to? I will give

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it to the two main stars of
this movie. They encapsulate characters extremely well.

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Yep. I'll also give credit here
to Gretit Gerwig for executing a very

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bizarre but clear vision. And although
it was cleared or us leading up to

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it, Like, once you got
into this movie, you're like, oh,

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I see what she's doing here.
I like what she's doing. She

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for sure put on screen the vision
she had. Let me actually take a

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step back and give credit to Mattel. Mattel let Gearwig really just have fun

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and just proud and poke at what
Barbie is, what the toy company is,

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what this big conglomerate is, and
they said, you can do whatever

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you want, Like the company deserves
a little bit of credit for that,

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right, can you retract the credit
now that post movie they're being like,

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I think we're gonna do a mateloverse. Okay, I'm gonna take another step

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back and I'm gonna take my credit
away and I'm gonna give it to Ken

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Good Kennergy, Right, shout out
Ken Border, your brother in luck.

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Shout out yes, because now you
know he's a part of the movie.

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Yes, he was uncredited Ken Yes, Pants Density Excite bike Mania. What

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got you going? And I think
that Gossling got me going real hard?

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No, Uh, funniest character in
the movie the Casa Dojo House was it

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that helped me out here? Yeah? Something like that Casa Dojo House thing.

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Everything with that, and then also
the love for horses. The musical

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number at the end really is funny. Yeah, there's there's There's a lot

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of fun and a lot of funny
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kind of lacks the one pants tent
moment unless you really bought into those those

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couple dance numbers, I would say, however, and they do make a

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joke about this. Robbie being in
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time a pants tent. So yes, all one hundred and fourteen minutes we're

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a pants tent for those of you
tardy to the Mac and Goop party.

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We rate everything on a forty hot
dog rating system in Mac. You're more

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excited than this than I am,
so go right ahead, Okay, Like

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I said, uh, it's a
it's elements of stories we've seen before brought

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together here cranked up to eleven.
Robbie learning how to be come a quote

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unquote real girl is pretty satisfying.
The music is great. Really props the

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movie up for me. I guess
maybe not for goo feel good movie with

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a feel good message. I thought, as funny as it was the one

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moment they're gonna show when Robbie gets
nominated for Best Actress. Here is the

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moment where she's crying during the Billie
Eilish song you know that You're going to

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see that at the Oscars. I
thought that was a very good emotional moment,

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but again I could see that being
too much for some. I thought

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this movie got weird enough too.
You know, with the premise, they

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definitely could have got more bizarre,
but it was enough for me. They

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leaned into the ridiculous premise. Having
the narrator I thought was a good call

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to sort of tidy things up.
I thought they went too far here though,

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with Barbie's Creator all that roof stuff. Didn't need that in there.

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Those were a couple of drops that
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movie. That was a little bizarre. ID I didn't care for either scene

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with her credit to Greta Gerwig here
Goo, I thought already done that.

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I thought there were moments in this
movie that felt almost like a wes Anderson

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movie, especially with the traveling and
some of the cut scenes. Yeah,

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like very wes Anderson, like the
fantastical nature of it. Yeah, so

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she she really dipped into her bag
on that. I appreciate that. There

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was good references throughout this movie.
Uh, some again more topical than timeless.

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The Snyder joke fucking killed me.
Every beach joke made me laugh,

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and there were a ton of them. And then the Allan and mid stuff

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was very funny as well. Again, there was a little bit of a

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boor in here. There was some
predictability, especially as you got into the

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third act. Nothing groundbreaking, but
they did do everything really well. But

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ultimately, what props this movie up
more so than the music, are the

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performances by Margot Roby and Ryan Gosling. They're both incredible. As I've got

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this at thirty five hot Dogs my
number five movie of twenty twenty three.

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Just above it is Guardians three,
and just below it is Mission Impossible,

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Deadreck Get Part one. So I'm
gonna go ahead and a little cop out

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for you here, MACKI ready for
this, Okay, sure, I'm not

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the target audience for this movie?
Wow? Where have I heard that before?

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See you guys later. Goo you
wear fucking matching onesie outfits? You

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are so so deep into the target
audience for this movie. What I am

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enough? I do have the kennerge. I'm telling you, are you a

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scrull? Is this really good?
What the fuck is this? So?

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It is a wonderfully stylized and hypercolored
vision that is completely all Greta Gearwig,

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and you can tell that she got
everything that she wanted throughout this entire runtime

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of the movie. And I do
like portions of this journey, but I'm

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not sure if it all comes together
by the end. Having said that,

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though Mac I love the overall message
of creating your own identity. I'm completely

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in with that. It tries to
do a lot. It takes a lot

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of big swings, but I also
think it misses on a lot of those

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swings. I'm not sure how many
home runs there are. I'm also not

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even sure how many singles there are. I think this is funny, but

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it could have been punched up more. You could have had funnier stuff.

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A lot of this feels like a
twelve fifty five sketch on SNL. I've

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already mentioned that, and I feel
like Gosling is the main one that carries

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that. It reminds me a lot
of that Kyle Mooney sitcom sketch that they

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had, and Gosling is in one
of those where he plays do Gay.

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I think that that is pretty much
what a lot of that character feels like.

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And I do like that a lot
of ha funny, not a lot

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of ha ha funny for me Mac. So I'm not saying the jokes feel

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lazy, but they just they don't
feel like they're fully realized. I like

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them taking shots at Mattel. I
like Mattel taking that, but like we

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talked about earlier, let's pull that
back because Mattel, they're like, hey,

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take this hot wheel and shove it. You're gonna love it. So

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I'm right around thirty one hot tucks. Dude, I don't know. I

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don't know how you can say that
TMNT was so funny and then this wasn't

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without a doubt. Barbie mentioned being
milked once. I would have been in.

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I know you would have been in. That would have been your pants,

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I questioned, I you know,
I wish I could have seen this

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movie with you. I question your
state of mind. Maybe it was the

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crowd. I feel like maybe on
a second rewatch, you might appreciate it

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more. I don't know. I
might not watch this movie again. I

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don't care. So here's the other
thing. Would you admit this? People

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are gonna remember twenty twenty three obviously
for Spider Verse and Oppenheimer, but they'll

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mention Barbie. No. I actually, i'll tell you right now. I

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think when people think back to this
year in movies, it's gonna be to

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Oppenheimer and Barbie, like that weekend
Barbenheimer. I just fucking thought of it.

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Barmenheimer is a cultural phenomenon. I
actually just read today too. Barbie

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just broke the record for a most
movie ever made by a solo female directed

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movie. So that's something as well. Brian France and it was right,

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movies are back like that to me. We thought we talked about it all

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the time, like theater movie versus
at home movie, Like this was such

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a fun theater experience, and the
pops and the sound and the visuals play

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so well in the theater. I
don't think you'll lose much on home watches

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like you would on say a Mission
Impossible. This was just such a delightful

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theory. I'll tell you right now. Actually my theater experience, I saw

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it with influencers jealous. I mean, I think that's why it affected your

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viewing of them. They gave us
a giant care pack, I got free

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popcorn, I got free drinks.
I just realized what it was. They

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didn't have your name on the care
package. You were Batty Day's guest.

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You were pissed off the whole time. It sounds like you've cracked the code.

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Dude. Want to get some some
spoilers here before we do that.

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I have it. I have it
in a group of movie so it's outside

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of my top nine. I would
have it in a group with the Flash

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and Creed three, all right,
I haven't seen Creed three. I enjoyed

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the Flash more like the Flash.
I have it at number ten on the

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year. Yeah, I think I
have it eight on the year. But

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you and I we're willing to forgive
wonky cgi. You know it is.

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I actually think if we're good at
anything, we're good at just saying I

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don't give a fuck about the rotten
Tomato score in terms of like I've been

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00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.240
saying that all year. I know, I know, I'm saying. Well,

403
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.160
we'll use it as a parameter in
our podcast. But our personal feelings

404
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:36.200
are very rarely affected by other people's
thoughts on a movie. And I think

405
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.880
the perfect example of that is thor
Love and Thunder. A perfect example of

406
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.960
that is Flash. Let's take two
steps back and let's give credit once again.

407
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:45.960
To us. Yeah, credit to
us, credit to us. All

408
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.160
right, let's get into some spoilers
here, Max spoiler, I ask you

409
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.039
a question here, Yes, yes, okay, So end of the second

410
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.160
act of the movie, when they
go back to Barbie Land. First off,

411
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.400
I like that they go back to
Barbie Land. I'm in on that

412
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:06.880
out of nowhere, Barbie suddenly thinks
that she is ugly? Is that because

413
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.279
Ferrera thinks that she's ugly and that
has now seeped into Barbie's mind because Ferreira

414
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:18.000
has been pushing more of like the
death and the suicide stuff. It was

415
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.599
more like out of nowhere, She's
like, I'm ugly, helped me out

416
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.160
here. I think those feelings of
Ferrara's, which, by the way,

417
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.400
I thought one of the better moments
of the movie. The quote unquote reveal

418
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.000
that it was Ferrera's thoughts and feelings
and not Sashes. I thought that was

419
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.119
a nice time, right. But
also, let me take a step back.

420
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.359
Let's take how many step backs?
Am I getting this? You have

421
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.079
fallen down the flight of stairs.
You've taken so many steps back. I

422
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.279
would have liked is broken at the
bottom of the steps. If they explored

423
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:51.559
the mother daughter like that story more
because I thought that was the most interesting

424
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.960
story in the movie, and they
just kind of gave up on it.

425
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.519
No, I thought they did it
perfect amount. We got it, we

426
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.480
understood it. And and that's another
that's a thing too with the fifteen year

427
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.440
old girl, Like a lot of
that ship's unspoken. They just have to

428
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.519
have an understanding with each other.
They kind of just fall into the background.

429
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.920
I don't agree with that at all, go I thought, And these

430
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.359
are two characters I'd never heard of, Midge and Alan. The jokes and

431
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.200
everything surrounding that I thought is like
a purfele perfect summation of like the way

432
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.200
Gerwig handles her projects. Those are
two things that if they were never brought

433
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.039
into this movie, this movie would
still be roughly the same. But those

434
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.200
small editions show like how she handled
it with care and like she truly understands

435
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.759
how funny that's gonna be with the
Allen and Ken stuff and Midge and the

436
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.759
Mattel ceo, like did you will
fail? Goes h? Do you want

437
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.559
the fart opera that she tried to
put into this movie? So no,

438
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.880
I don't. I would like to
see that, but not in the movie.

439
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.079
I don't want to cut with that. How are you on one of

440
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.799
those cake videos? I want it
separate? Yes, give me the cake

441
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.279
here. I just want to see
what it would have looked like. Everyone

442
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.359
knows used to circulate, and everyone's
like, watch this video. Why I

443
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.480
want to watch this video? Is
that? Why your score we're so low?

444
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.640
Because you wanted to see the fart
cut? I wanted the farts.

445
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.960
I wanted the fartsh good. The
thing that I the thing I really didn't

446
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:12.880
like most Ryan A couple of dogs, maybe even three. Maybe that take

447
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.599
a step back and give me credit
for that, though I'm moving forward.

448
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:22.000
I've got a fucking chair lift on
the stairs. The inclusion of Barbie's creator,

449
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.559
Ruth Handler in here, I get
that they want to pay homage to

450
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.079
her because she created this whole craze
and everything. But Ruth Handler died in

451
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.799
two thousand and two. Go,
so they have an actor in here playing

452
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.880
Ruth Handler living in the basement of
Mattel, who was born in two thousand

453
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.519
and three. It was she pops
up again at a later moment, and

454
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.880
those two moments pretty much like took
me out of the movie. It was

455
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.319
jarring. I did not like it
at all, and if you were remove

456
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.480
those two from the movie, this
would be I don't know much high because

457
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.920
thirty five is a good score.
But I thought this movie would be a

458
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:02.319
lot better without those two moments because
ultimate Lee that doesn't actually add anything to

459
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.680
the film, because yes, you
get the monologue with Handler talking about why

460
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.079
she created Barbie, and it could
show that a girl could be an astronaut,

461
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.519
could be this, could be that. So that's great, but you

462
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.279
can convey that through characters that are
already in the movie. You didn't need

463
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.240
to add her in there. That
was really bothersome to me. I also

464
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:23.039
thought that every actor that's in here, just like I mean, like Sarah

465
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.400
did his thing, and he was
very Michael Sarah in it. But like

466
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.119
I just thought that they could have
used the other Barbies and Ken's a little

467
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.400
bit better. I thought that you
could have replaced them all with someone else

468
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.599
and you really wouldn't have noticed except
for the fact that they aren't movie stars.

469
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.240
I don't really I'm not on that
same level with you. Also,

470
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.880
Will Farrell, going back to Barbie
Land, there was no payoff to that.

471
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:49.839
Well, he Will Farrell learned a
lesson. What do you mean,

472
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.279
I'm not even sure if we needed
Will Farrell in this movie. I thought

473
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.519
he was funny, and actually I
thought that the way that he portrayed it,

474
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.680
it felt like one of those fun
Will Farrell characters. I'm like the

475
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.000
mid two thousands. Some of the
funniest things were between him and Aaron Dinkins.

476
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.880
But stuff was very funny that felt
like more of a cartoon than what

477
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:13.319
was happening in Barbie Land. I
don't know, Barbie Land is pretty fucking

478
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.640
cartoonish. They had a Scooby Doo
chase in the hallway. What are you

479
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:21.279
talking about? Most of the ben
Most of the Kens and Barbies are non

480
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.119
stars. You have Simul Lou and
now of course Kingsley ben Adair, who

481
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.720
we saw in Secret Invasion. The
other ones are pretty much no names,

482
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.559
and the same goes for Barbie.
You had Eastern Ray, you had Kate

483
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.160
McKinnon. The other ones mostly people
we didn't know. I want to give

484
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.839
credit to Greta Gearwig for making or
not making me, but allowing me to

485
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.160
like Kate McKinnon again, at least
for one sketch, for one scene.

486
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:45.799
I thought she was great in that
first scene, and then they brought her

487
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.759
back, and I'm like, we
probably could have just done with the one

488
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.440
scene. No, I think she
was fine in the second scene. Yeah,

489
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.279
and like four minutes of screen time's
just good. The only other spoiler

490
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.000
ish thing in here that I want
to mention that you had seen as well

491
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.119
as There's a night A little nods
seemingly to the Bratstalls in here, which

492
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.720
became very popular in the early two
thousands, maybe late nineties, at the

493
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.119
lunche table when Barbie dressed up in
her girl get up, which is a

494
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.279
very nice image. She's talking to
Sasha and her friends, and the four

495
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.720
friends there are the four names of
the Bratstalls and roughly have the same looks

496
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.759
as the original Bratstalls. So I
like that little tidbit in there, that

497
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.480
little easter egg. Okay, what
do you want in the sequel? I

498
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.920
don't want a sequel. Well,
we're gonna get a sequel, well,

499
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.480
at least not from Robbie and Gerwig. They said they won't yep, And

500
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:31.400
Mattel is like, fine, we
don't have to pay you, We'll just

501
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.160
keep doing it. Nope, that's
fine. Mattel could do what they want,

502
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.000
and again that's why we removed credit
from Mattel. I don't want more

503
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:49.160
Mattel Verse movies. Yeah, let's
get into Max and Max. That could

504
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.519
be anything. It could be a
boat and Mac. What do I have

505
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.160
in the notes right here? Does
it confuse you? Let me scroll down?

506
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:59.559
Yes, where am I supposed shave? What do you think that means?

507
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.119
I think that means when you have
your shirt off, like at the

508
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:05.960
pool, are you supposed to have
certain body parts shaved? That's not a

509
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.000
bad guess. I'm gonna go ahead
and explain this to you, so as

510
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.519
you can tell, I am covered
in shitty facial hair. You can see

511
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:14.480
that I don't look good. How
about me? By the way, my

512
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.840
vacation beard. I like that.
Yeah, okay, So at my home

513
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.199
right now for a while. Yes, I'm sorry, Yes, I'm picking

514
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.920
up what you're putting down. For
a while. I was pushed from the

515
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.719
sink into my bathtub because when I
shave, I make a mess. I

516
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.159
think that means you don't shave enough. That could be it. I also

517
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.280
have very sensitive skin. I can't
use the cream I do as well,

518
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:43.280
but my son now takes baths in
the actual bathtub, So I am no

519
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.039
longer allowed to shave in there.
Do you know where I shaved last Thursday?

520
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.800
Kitchen sink? The backyard. I
brought a mirror outside and I shaved

521
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.039
my face in the backyard. What
did you do for water? Just buzzers?

522
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.840
I just buzzed my face in the
backyard. Oh oh gotcha. So

523
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.719
yeah, I suppose that's that's an
issue. They make all sorts of men's

524
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.039
products that help y out in the
bathroom to control those shavings. Um.

525
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.239
I for me, with the job
that I have, I have to shave

526
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.599
every two or three days, so
I never are really unkept on my face.

527
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.360
So I don't really have that issue. I think you just need to

528
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.320
shave more often. But where where
am I allowed to shave? Wow?

529
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.559
This is this is the life of
a man. I keep getting. You

530
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:29.079
know. The the suggestion to me
is to shave at the gym, But

531
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.039
no, I don't want to feel
like the homeless dad from Saved by the

532
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.480
Ballot. And then you get to
bring clippers with you to the gym.

533
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.119
I know, yeah, no,
no, that's a bad suggestion. And

534
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.559
then you know you have the other
the other issue of you know, shaving,

535
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.360
Where am I supposed to do this. You know, you can come

536
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.679
over here if you'd like. I
have in my bathroom. I'm not I'm

537
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.840
not doing that. I have a
bidet next to the toilet, so I

538
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.320
just shave over the bidet, clean
it up afterwards. That Bideala's look a

539
00:35:54.360 --> 00:36:01.920
fucking stuffed animal right now. It
looks like Ted after he got ripped apart

540
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.280
and all the fluff came out.
Yeah, so guys, help me out.

541
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:13.840
I'm a man without a without a
country. Oh boy, you gotta

542
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.800
figure out what your job is.
Where can the people find us? You

543
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.800
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544
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550
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551
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dump. First dump in a while. So much news has been piling up,

552
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so we'll give you some news from
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553
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