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Hello everybody, Welcome to That's Not
Metal, your weekly rock and heavy metal

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podcast, and welcome to Hyperblast.
This time, my name is Paren Haish.

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We've got Sam Dignot and Elliott Paisley
here as well. Happy Valentine's Day

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if you so celebrate. This past
week, we were this was meant to

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be the reviews show, the big
reviews bag for the month. We you

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said it would be last time.
We've not been able to bring you that

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this time, but that will be
coming next week. This time, as

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said, it's fairly impromptu Hyperblast,
so we've not got any questions or anything

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like that, but we are going
to rattle through some pretty excited news,

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you know, for rock and metal
fans of all stripes. I think there's

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something for you this time. And
then of course we've got pretty great week

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for releases, and yeah, let's
get into all of that. First up,

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I suppose we can talk for a
little bit about some pretty cool shows

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happened this week. I am going
to quickly talk first about I haven't seen

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Malevolence this past week on their like
self proclaimed victory lap tur like this was.

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I guess it was like six months
ago or something. They did like

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a larger UK tour. I did
not go to that, but you know,

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coming back again so soon and like
selling out venues and stuff again,

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I think is always a sign of
like a band who are really on a

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high. I think the last time
that I saw Malevolence was like about a

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year ago opening that Trivium tour.
So I will see Malevolence, you know,

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I'll go somewhere to see Malevolence once
a year. That's perfectly vying by

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me. And they brought with them
a particularly mosh worthy bill, like it's

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for the small venues. They brought
the marshers Rough Justice, who we reviewed.

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Have to say, you know,
not a lot to say about them.

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They're kind of lets to say about
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record there is that there's that title
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which they closed with and the main
riff and that song really kind of

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stood out. But that was sort
of the first moment of their set that

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kind of did at all. They
were made to look kind of average by

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the next band, which was Pain
of Truth. Who are It's sad that

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they're like kind of hardcores it band
of the moment, aren't they? They

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are like the New York hardcore band
to like if you only pig up like

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New York card called. They are
the currents or flag bearers for that.

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They're basically just like the reincarnation of
mad Ball, aren't they? And like

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again, just the past few weeks, they seem to have just sort of

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really like so much good will around
them, Like I want to love them

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more than I actually do, mainly
because the artwork they released last year on

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that album with the gun like in
the Guy's mouth but the like is like

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from inside the mouth. That's fucking
crazy that cover. I don't think they've

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really got the songs fully. Yeah, but let me tell you they are

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a fucking rad live band. They're
so good live, aren't they, Like,

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I mean, that's it. They
nail the rowdy just pure stomping hardcore

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atmosphere. Yeah, like a really
violent bruising, i'd to say. Across

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the tour there was a sensational entry
music game because Pain of Truth came out

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to the like nineteen fifty four Godzilla, which was amazing, and then malevol

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It's Not the Stage came out to
Hello Zepp from the the music the plays

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whenever a crazy twist happens in sauce. That was great, getting very excited

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multiple times, but yeah, Pain
of Truth is really like aggressive. There

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was this one moment when they were
just they swapped instruments like over the course

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of a song. I don't know
if this is the thing they always do,

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but like the singer walked over to
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side of the stage that took his
guitar, and that guitarist went and did

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like a vocal spot, and then
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over to the bassist on the other
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did it. So over the course
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song or whatever, like the singer
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become the bassis, and the bassis
have become the singer. Is a wonderful

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just like that feeling you sort of
get of like a gang with like a

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hard past the mi cough. Yeah, like you know again like a kind

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of you know, a New York
crew. That was again really really fine.

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I think if they can you know, keep upping like the songwriting and

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everything, they've at least got the
presence to be a really cool hardcore band,

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and Malevolence people love that band,
don't they. Like I've got to

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say, like all the kind of
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whatever kind of hardcore contemporary kind of
just metal bands, they've got to have

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one of the more like devoted fan
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kind of coming back so soon,
doing so well, but just like hearing

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people sing songs and everything, and
it was again, the set is basically

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exactly what you would expect if you've
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All the same kind of songs from
from the album and everything. You

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know, they keep you distance ep
all that business. The same song still

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there from Sel Supremacy or whatever,
and they're all just hits, and it's

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you know, it's nice to see
their kind of generation of metal bands just

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kind of being firmly consolidated in that
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as I remember seeing them on the
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a fifth of the size that I
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was like the smaller venue tour than
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The fact that they're now up to
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on that, and there was one
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sticks and again it is basically the
same set that they've been doing. But

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when you look at like the encore
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Serpent's choke Hold and Unbroken Glass,
it's a pretty that's that's a hit

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run like these are all from different
releases, really fucking good. And then

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their outro music was left outside learned
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cowards only having that as your outro
give the people what they want.

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There's a second person who said that
exactly to fucking tease. It's terrible,

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but they were really, really good, and I suppose if this is again

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they're kind of self proclaimed victory laptour. Probably over the course of the year,

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next year or whatever, they'll go
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yet again, who knows. The
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you Sam were at was twice,
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we can talk about if there any
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you know, my sort of immersion
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I will be around any flannelty and
flannel shirts. Yeah, the Mensingers

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my I guess, sort of bi
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who are just nice and don't have
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I mean, who was the opening
bad Lady like I would watched was

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like I like this, this is
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band, the most inexplicable five piece
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calm the fuck down, Colta Luna, what is going on? Like

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like they are just like the most
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which again I'm totally happy to watch, but it was it was when I

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think, that's like the last times
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the singer from Lady was the singer
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is kind of the same sort of
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it completely inexplicable five piece. Then
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again for me the last several Mensingers
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in the supports, you know,
it peaked when they had pup. It's

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kind of gone downhill for me ever
since Prince Daddy and the Hyaena. I

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don't have listened to properly since we
reviewed an album. There's in like twenty

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eighteen or something, and I just
remember the singer being absolutely unbearable. He

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was not I don't know if he's
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something. He wasn't the worst,
but it did make me go, man,

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I would have been having such a
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Nail were supporting rather than this,
Like when you missed that one. They

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did that, they did miss that
one eighteen yeah, and this was,

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you know, songless. I enjoyed
princetone in the he I like them when

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they're being a bit more rowdy and
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which I do find I was like, these are these were right,

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but they weren't whound me. But
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of mix up between the more high
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stuff. I thought they were good, but I can see why you might

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far might have found them just yeah, like kind of just there Inertia.

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and the Men Singers. I suppose, you know, you went to two

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shows. What was the menu.
It was in electric Ball, so it

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was smaller than they can do,
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it. Yeah, probably it's about
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last time at the Round How Yeah, this is obviously it's the support for

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the latest album. Some of it
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I saw the Mensingers, which was
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the same venue. I had a
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that was you know, they were
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really doing a lot off it.
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we're just kind of back again kind
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there was much more concentration on the
new album I did again. Personally,

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I missed the tour with Spanish love
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like I've not seen a lot of
the Hello Exile stuff. I'd like to

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see, you know, some of
those songs. But going in and you

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know, hope is a dangerous little
thing is like the song I had been

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just one thing to see and it's
the very first song they played. And

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yeah, like I was again like
they came up the first I was with

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all my mates and they came and
open with that, and I'd had a

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few beers and just arms were in
the air and I was just like,

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right, cool, this is this
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and a half into I don't want
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I like they always do. I
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why am I cheering? But I'm
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that they do it. I guess, you know, for your the men

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thingers were great, and certainly you're
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them. I'm not gonna say no. Well, were there any across your

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two nights? Were there any meaningful
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anything. Yep. So first night
they pulled out Rodent, which was a

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really nice little deep cut that I'd
not never seen them play before, which

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annoyingly, they cut America You're Freaking
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ah, that was a bit of
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right, I got that the following
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was quite happy to see a deep
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like, other than that, the
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I don't want to be an asshole
like that album is now that doesn't really

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get it's kind of that and hello
works. I'll kind of feel like the

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ones now where it's just going to
be the big hitters and then maybe if

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you're lucky, a deeper cut that
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difference on night two, it was
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Oh right, so they they didn't
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for the an album that's already making
a bulk of the set list, they

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pulled out a number of other songs
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So they did Your Wild Years.
They did Charlie's Army, which they

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hadn't been I know if they've been
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was a nice or of like,
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and these there's been seven years,
and I was like, fuck off,

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has it been seven years since After
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the time gone really two albums since
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that was that was the kind of
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nights. Otherwise it was like,
yeah, very heavy on the new album,

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which seeing those songs live has kind
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like top three men's albums for me. At this point, I was so

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in on all those songs live,
and the crowd in London in particular they

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were as wells for all of them. I wouldn't say it changed my opinion

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the album, but I do think, you know, when we reviewed it,

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I thought, this is very very
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as Peak Benzing and stuff. I
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at least for us, maybe it's
the larger any whatever, because those songs

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they are a bit slower and they
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like Ultra Violet or whatever, they
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so I did notice difference in terms
of like how rowdy people were getting for

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you know, any of the classic
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I enjoyed the songs melodically. I
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couple of them were very good indeed, and yeah, they're even still always

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are with Menzics. There are other
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I think in terms of like swapping
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know if you've got we got The
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from Yeah we Got Gates. We've
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that That was that they came out
and were kind of like, what songs

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do you want to hear? And
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think they mentioned Charlie's Army as one. They were doing like kind of you

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know, swapping stuff around like that
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What do you want? Gately?
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obviously with the addition to a bunch
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to see, did stop it feeling
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are at a stage now where they
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right it's like they I think unless
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don't think they're going to do,
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forever, as long as they turn
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exact same response for for as long
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real deviation in like what kind of
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like you know what you're saying about
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from like Rental World or whatever,
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I haven't seen that. I you
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Axile songs or whatever, like I've
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as that was one of those singles
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they turn up. They do everything
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fan would want them to do,
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and ever because they've earned so much
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ten's classics that nothing really needs to
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set list, yeah, if you've
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not really much to kind of particularly
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course, you know, I mean
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was like that just kind of like
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exciting opening run. It was just
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burn After Writing and nice things and
America You're freaking me out, and the

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habituaries and all that stuff. It's
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I enjoyed Tom looking. I don't
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for you, but he was wearing
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on, like the round sunglasses and
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like with his hair and he looking
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Boogie Nights or something. But yeah, it was a very good time as

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long as they keep you know,
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two shows having different shows each night, like they are just always gonna deliver,

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you know, kind of what Mensingers
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said a bad thing about even again, Like if I wanted to pick up

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be like, well, you know, I would just say this bum was

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like, but I never don't want
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play telling guys and lookers and the
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live, I will be sad.
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do, Just I'm gonna have a
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was a great time. Indeed,
speaking of potential great times, I suppose

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we have a whole bunch of news
to talk to you about today on this

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hyperblast and we are going to start
with the massive rock band to be releasing

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new music this week, Elliot.
We're gonna bring you in now. Hello

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Elliott, thank you for listening to
a talk about live shows for a little

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while there. We're talking about Pearl
Jam, who have announced a huge world

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tour. It is an accompaniment of
their new album, their twelfth album,

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twelve Pearl Jam Albums. Dark Matter
is the name of it. It's out

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on April the nineteenth. They have
released. Is it the title track?

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I believe it is the title track
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two, I think maybe hopefully could
speak more from the at least Pearl Jam

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agnostics sort of standpoint than myself.
On this Pearl Jam releasing a new song,

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I had to go back and remind
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last album. It turns out I
had reviewed it on this show. I'd

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forgotten about it, and then I
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like, oh, yeah, it's
the one that had the really weird like

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synth disco lead single, weird little
pivots like that. But putting this on,

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it's certainly moving away from I guess
whatever that little experiment. What are

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your thoughts on, like, how
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said, this is absolutely a huge, huge rock band the world tour.

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You know that they are doing the
venues they're playing there, They're unsurprisingly,

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you know, fucking huge everywhere doing
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in London. How much do you
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You know, twenty twenty four what
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Pearl Jam sort of at all times
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then yeah, sort of like I
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they've got a really strong greatest hit
set, which is sort of ill fitting

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for them because famously they change their
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I think like Versus is good,
Ten's good, They Avocado one's good.

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I don't really love many of their
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the bad stuff as well. Like
the Pearl Jam records, I'm not keen

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on. They don't bother me in
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this thing where some people, I
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the world, the way that some
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about Pearl Jam. And yeah,
that's kind of an anathema to me.

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I think the songs all right,
Like it's got a catchy chorus, it's

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got some strut to it. It's
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were doing on the last record.
It does sound a bit like an iPod

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advert, but it's not the worst
advert I've ever heard. When I pressed

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play on it and the drum terro
happened, I thought I was Halo by

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Soil. That's exactly what I think. Andrew, with the guy they're working

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with this time, Andrew wat has
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Stones out and stuff. I'm not
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He has these really washy drum sound
it's weird. Yeah yeah, And

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I saw the headline thought that's one
of the weirdest like combinations of things.

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Pearl Jam we were so rootsy and
that seemed to be such a huge part

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of the appeal. To partner them
with someone who kind of came into this

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through post alone is a bit weird. I don't think it sounds terrible,

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but it's it's I know, it's
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again, I don't mind Pearl Jam. They're they're they're of the big four

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grunch bands. They've always been my
last favorite. I mean again, like

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ten's a really good album. I've
never really done much of a deep dive

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into many of the other albums because
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nice out of all of those bands, which like, when I'm thinking about

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band being a bit too nice,
it's probably like there's like I mean,

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the song's all right, it's it's
you know, it's a big kind of

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hard rocker like sounds fine, or
like radio rock. It's plight enough where

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it's not gonna, you know,
turn off anyone too much. But it's

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not so like that. It doesn't
have a bit of like like power to

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the guitars and the drums. But
yeah, it just I've gone a bit

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in one im out the other.
It didn't really make much last thing in

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cover like, hey, that's a
that's a rock song. Yeah, like

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you know, is it a do
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disposition, don't want to actually shit
on them unnecessarily. Is this a terrible

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song? No? Is it a
bad song? No? Not really,

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But you know, Pearl Jam fans
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say, and it's such a like
it just kind of like, okay,

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we're just we're on different wavelength here, and that's that's perfectly fine. But

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if Royal Blood released this song,
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just a fat nothing. You know, there are multiple songs across the first

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three Royal Blood albums that are all
better than Yeah, ye, what you

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mean exactly. That's the only way
it's it's that kind of just like that

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that's a radio rock song. Yeah, I don't think the chorus is great.

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It's just a you know, the
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audio slave B side and that's that's
all there is really say on it.

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So Pearl Jammer back everyone. The
world's greatest band, so ac DC are

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also doing a fucking huge tour.
We've been waiting for this to be announced.

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It's kind of been long in the
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there's like four year old album at
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They have announced some UK dates.
The Power Up Tour is going to

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be arriving. I cannot currently justify, you know, I'm doing some things

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in a couple weeks or whatever.
I do not currently have one hundred fortequid

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drop on a ticket or whatever.
Sam, you at the very least are

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going to be going to a CDC. Yes, I have family at Wembley

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who have decided to be like text
me like during a CDC ticket. I'm

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like, yes, yes, I
will pay up. You know what?

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I again, it said some of
the thing I was saying when I went

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like I made sure I saw Bruce
monson last year's These are the sort of

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bands I'm like, they come around
now are they going to come back around?

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I have no idea, So if
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Yeah. It's not been explicitly like
labeled like a CDC Farewell dates,

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last UK dates the Power to exactly
or anything like that, which is the

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only slight bit of like maybe they'll
do another one in like two years time

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that they could make. But it's
certainly you know that you don't know the

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clock is ticking at this point.
It's got to be, you know,

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within the last couple of UK dates
they'll do. And after looking at like

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that set list from Power Trip,
want to watch some videos of it,

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and they like they look like the
life Flum doesn't look too bad from that,

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So I'm I'm excited to just go
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songs ever written played probably very loudly. Me And there's a big group of

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us all strategizing like now, trying
to work out how we're gonna get tickets

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tomorrow. I'm genuinely anxious at the
thought of trying to get a CD.

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There's one hundred and sixty thousand for
sale, and that doesn't feel like nearly

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enough. Like the famine is it's
famine mentality because our story is did you

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see in twenty fifteen? I think
when they did Wembley Stadium then, and

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you know, it was fantastic,
and I thought, I'd love to see

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that again. It's like nine years
later. They've released maybe one or two

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songs since then that might be in
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Everything else will be the same.
They're not going to be, you

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know, younger than they were then. Cliffs is going to be there,

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but it's like, if there's another
nine years, I don't think there can

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be hmm. The thought of missing
it is making me feel a bit sick.

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Yeah, So I I'm crossing my
fingers that at some point down the

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line, somehow things work out.
Maybe they do that the Springsteen and they

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just do it, they do another
stadium tour next yeah, or if I

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end up you know, fucking chilling
out on resale or whatever at some point.

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But whatever, ACDC, at the
very least, we're going to have

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Sam's report on T and M whenever
that rolls around. Huge again, stadium

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type tours going on there from some
of the biggest bands in rock. Paramore

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have announced after I would say unnecessary
speculation from some of their fans that happens

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every single time they release an album, and they haven't helped it this time.

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I think that I did make it
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but basically Paramore, who finished up
their their record contract recently. They have

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said that they are freshly independent,
but they are still a band who plan

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on having a lengthy career, which
I would say is exactly the announcement that

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I would have expected come the end
of this little palava we've had over the

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last like month, two months or
whatever. I guess, you know,

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Paramore, you know, we're seeing
bands like Slipnot and stuff kind of going

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in that direction. They probably are
the band of the size who could,

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like you know, have their own
business to a pretty fucking substantial degree.

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So yeah, good job, Paramore. Ozzie Osbourne has been beefing with Canye

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West this week over an uncleared sample
of Black cyberst Warpigs that CanYa West was

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you know, attempting to use.
Ozzie publicly posted on Twitter basically saying,

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hey, Canye West, sample of
this was not cleared. I specifically did

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not give him access because he is
an anti sea mite and I do not

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want anything to do with him.
Kanye has fired back to some superfluous degree.

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I just, you know, someone
summed up very well when they were

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like I cannot believe an elderly white
rock singer who is hating on a rapper

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here is on the right side of
of his that is genuinely startling. That

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was that was like, man,
we're all on this like for once.

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It's the like the metal rock vocalist
who everyone was out of touch is when

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we're all rooting for It's like,
yeah, no, no, he's in

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the right. He's in the right. He's actually criticizing for the right reasons.

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And just like, oh, rap
music roll. I saw that statement

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and I was like, yeah,
fucking go on tell him. Yeah.

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I think it was a lot of
like yeah, you know, calling this

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ship out. Yeah. And like
when I saw the screenshot of this and

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it was just Ossie in all caps, I just it is this going to

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be like I don't give Mark Zuckerberg
permission to print anything off my computer,

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but like like you dreaming wrote it, like you know, reading the statement,

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so like you say, it's kind
of funny the way what's say funny,

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Like it's interesting the way it's all
fallen out and you know, obviously

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Team Assy like fair play. Yeah, even Team Sharon in this regard,

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that's a less less common occurrence.
Got two pieces of very exciting UK festival

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news again for different demographics here.
First up, same building, You're right,

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it's the same building BC in Manchester
and ape Shit. First up,

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Outbreak Festival confirmed its final headliner.
There was a lot of speculations, Oh,

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maybe they'll had to have Turnstile back
again after a couple of years or

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whatever. It turned out to be
a band who have not played in the

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UK. Am I right in saying
since they have done their kind of return.

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I think they did Outbreak in like
twenty eighteen nineteen when they did their

406
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,480
initial little first return, okay last
time. I feel like the Outbreak was

407
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,119
like the one UK show they did
on that return. So we're talking about

408
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:55,319
have Heart are the third Outbreak headliner? The only hardcore headliner of the three

409
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,200
thoughts. I was thinking, you
know, they certainly have to pull up

410
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,240
the stops with like the hard core
slot when yeah, they've kind of got

411
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,680
the other two ones where they are. I was thinking, you know,

412
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,079
I guess it must have been post
covid Have Heart. They did that like

413
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,680
fucking huge show. That was just
pre covid think it was like and then

414
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,440
the world like okay, right,
yeah, you know, since then this

415
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:15,680
is Have Heart's return. This is
for a lot of people, is a

416
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:22,079
huge deal, I must say personally, like you know, the three headliness

417
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,519
here, we got Action Bronson on
the hip Hop Day, there's American Football,

418
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:30,960
and there's Have Heart. My personal
interest in that trio of Outbreak headliners

419
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,640
is like, those aren't my bands? Like that is that's not a true

420
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,440
of headline as that gets me very
excited to be like, yeah, I

421
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,039
gotta go back to Outbreak this year. I'm for me. It's mainly like

422
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:42,519
if I was going to go,
I want to see poison the Well,

423
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:48,839
et cetera. That kind of shit. But Have Heart for many people out

424
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,079
there, such as yourself, Sam
seemingly from the way you've been kind of

425
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,039
carrying yourself throughout this, this is
a good booking, didn't it. It

426
00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,279
was? It was one of those
because there was a couple of months ago

427
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,559
before Outbreak is announced anything, there
was like this weird bit of online activity

428
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,279
from Have Heart, and everyone was
gonna be like, Have Heart coming back,

429
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:08,079
and there was like that bet their
headlining outbreak and then the drum was

430
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000
like just tweeted that, yeah,
it's not happening, and everyone kind of

431
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:17,640
went got sad, and then they've
just gone bam outbreak and there's a bunch

432
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,599
of US hardcore festivals and shows and
so like yeah, they clearly was like

433
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,839
yeah we are, We're back.
So the two have Heart records that are

434
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,559
like the main one of the song
scream at the Side and the things we

435
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:33,599
carry, they are like melodic hardcore
classic album. Like how significant in terms

436
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,920
of like because my again looking at
particularly American football and Have Heart, they

437
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,359
kind of seem like they I don't
know they've been. It's not like I

438
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,279
don't like them, it's that they've
been largely particularly Have Heart out of my

439
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160
kind of peripheral vision and they seem
more like, you know, huge deal

440
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,079
in America type stuff. How again
over here is like, are have Heart

441
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:59,160
as like significant and influential a name
as they might be. I would say

442
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,680
like they are one of those significance
because like they broke up in two thousand

443
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880
and nine, so for a lot
of like argerments Hork fans, they've been

444
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960
completely inactive Yeah, so I think
it's kind of it's that sort of thing

445
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,039
of like, oh shit, this
is this like pivotal band who are like

446
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,960
a massive deal in the two thousands, for like a sort of five six

447
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,119
year period, they were like a
really sort of big deal on sort of

448
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,480
straight edge in malodic hardcore scenes,
super influential to a lot of the sort

449
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,839
of melodic hardcore that came along in
the Only twenty tens that I love,

450
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,960
like all of those sort of bands
like oh so much to Have Heart,

451
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:33,480
And so it's kind of that thing
of like this really important band from Nira

452
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,960
who haven't been around them my time
being into hardcore, who I had to

453
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,880
kind of go and discover through getting
into stick to your Guns and that kind

454
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,759
of stuff, and then like there
the have arts influence on them discovering that.

455
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,599
So this week is like, oh
cool, I now get my chance

456
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,279
to see this band who do hold
a sort of really significant place within hardcore

457
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:52,839
history just for like a short period
of time. Yeah, And kind of

458
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,559
on that front, there's you know, because it's the kind of as you

459
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,559
say, like maybe they are before
a certain era in which a number of

460
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,119
people might have got an into stuff. They might have not Got Gone Back

461
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,759
or whatever. You know, we're
going to do an American Football album club

462
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,000
because of this, you know that
sort of similar thing. I was like,

463
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,359
you know, they're coming and doing
an outbreak, They're doing that album.

464
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Maybe I know that they are their
name checked so much, but do

465
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,680
people actually know that album? And
now I feel like we've got to fucking

466
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,039
do another one or they have heart
albums are twenty minutes long. So yeah,

467
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,359
in the in the queue before June, we got like two Now like,

468
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,160
hey, these are headliners of that
festival that happening who maybe people don't

469
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,519
actually know. It's a bit weird, but for if you are in the

470
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,559
note then have Art is going to
be a huge deal. We also have

471
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,559
the Damnation headliner, the proper top
of the bill band announced, and we've

472
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:42,079
got some other bands on that bill
as well, which is not to be

473
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,960
overlooked, but people are going to
be interested in that headline slot and it

474
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:51,119
is first, it should be said
that it was Gavin the Damage promoter said

475
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:55,000
before the day before this announcement that
it was a band who they had booked

476
00:30:55,079 --> 00:31:00,119
to do a special old school set
and I was trying to think who that

477
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,079
would be because I genuinely I couldn't
think of a band who are, like,

478
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,480
you know, of the appropriate size
to headline Damnation, who aren't already

479
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,839
booked in somewhere else, who would
even have it be like a thing or

480
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,519
like a significant enough a divide or
whatever to do something like that. And

481
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,400
I was like, you know,
it can't be Opeth because they're doing Bloodstock.

482
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:21,920
I was like, is this where
we get are mastered on doing like,

483
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,839
you know, Leviathan remission or whatever
type thing someone mentioned in Flames,

484
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:29,160
which would have been interesting. Bizarrely, I don't know why it didn't cross

485
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,960
my mind that Cradler Filth would be
the answer, but then it happened and

486
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,359
I'm like, oh, yeah,
that makes that makes all the sense.

487
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:40,039
They're literally like the biggest British extreme
metal band there's ever been, and it

488
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:41,960
would be I guess it's because they've
they've never been involved Damnation before, but

489
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:47,720
it would be weird if the biggest
British extreme metal medi ale time did not

490
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:52,720
at any point headline Damnation and doing
it with a as said, old school

491
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:57,359
ritual set, which they it's not
a particular album, era or anything.

492
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,599
They seem to be suggesting it's basically
just like the first decade of their output,

493
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:04,799
you know, kind of Principle of
Evil through to sort of around in

494
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,319
Fetamine time, which is quite a
lot of albums, but that is also

495
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:14,240
it's classic material, in my opinion, one of the greatest stretches of music

496
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,680
ever committed to tape. Just banger
after banger after banger, and I've got

497
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,359
songs I want to see in an
old school ritual set. I want to

498
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,839
see songs from Principle of Evil made
Flesh and Vampire and that kind of shit.

499
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,480
But they can do anything from that
time, and I will be putty

500
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,440
in their hands. What a beautiful
Again, I've seen credit for many,

501
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:38,000
many times, but there is something
particularly appetizing about this idea. I am

502
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,119
so excited about this, Like,
I don't know why I never considered Cridle

503
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,880
of Filth for a Damnation headliner,
because it's like they just kind of always

504
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,160
swam. It's like different circles,
even though they are clearly you know,

505
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,279
a British extreme metal man. Well
yeah, and they're kind of nailed on

506
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:58,200
subheadliner at Bloodstock, and it's like
it's hard to imagine them doing anything now

507
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,799
that would mean they ascended to that. They also don't seem like out of

508
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:07,720
Damnation's reach in any way, and
I think that obviously not now. I

509
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
think, like the the I think
the exclusive old school set aspect is probably

510
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,640
a smart move because, like you
say, they are the biggest extreme metal

511
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,759
band in the UK has ever produced. But they're not a band who are

512
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,599
without their critics. Yes, but
I think like, particularly at least in

513
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,799
the UK, the run we're talking
about up to at least Midian probably up

514
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,839
to an infestiment as well, is
pretty widely seen as a classic run,

515
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,920
and I think even though it's weird, they don't really have like you said,

516
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,079
there isn't a record where it's like
that's then like Cradle of Filth Part

517
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,920
two, because it's like they do
thornography and then they follow that with God's

518
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,319
Speed on the Devil's Thunder, which
is more like the older stuff. So

519
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,680
it's it's a kind of weird choice, but I think it's smart in the

520
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,839
case of Damnation because the people who
go who maybe might think Cradle of Filth

521
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:01,200
a bit of an MTV or Korrang
TV band or whatever the stuff they're going

522
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,480
to be playing. I mean,
you said the word vampire, and that

523
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,440
hadn't even occurred to me, And
now I'm sort of dizzy. Well,

524
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,880
you know, win'ter throned in that
fucking set, my god? Like yeah,

525
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,679
I mean, I suppose you're saying
about, you know, up to

526
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:20,039
Ninfetamine or whatever. It's the MTV
thing that is the idea they're banking on.

527
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:23,039
Is clearly what they often do with
even with book when they book metical

528
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:28,960
bands and stuff like that, which
is people of a certain age at Dan

529
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,639
Nation who are into extreme metal.
This kind of stuff when it was out

530
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,199
would have been formative for them.
And when you think about, you know,

531
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,800
Cradle the Filth up to the early
two thousand, that kind of MTV

532
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,960
era when the her Ghost and the
Fog video and the Ninfetamine and those kind

533
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,079
of songs, that has that power
for a lot of people. And you

534
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:49,039
are right in terms of like,
you know, if Cratl the Filth's just

535
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,480
turned up and which they don't do, and they're a brilliant live band and

536
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:54,920
they have been on a really great
run of creative form anyway, but if

537
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,639
they turned up and went, yeah, we're doing pornography in full right,

538
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:05,320
it would not be quite quite as
you know appropriate. But you know it,

539
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,119
if you are criticizing saying that that
era that they're drawing on a Cradle

540
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,519
of Filth A is not appropriate for
Damnation or B isn't good, I just

541
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,840
don't listen to what you have to
say. Again for me, particularly if

542
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,480
in my head an old school era
particularly you know, the nineties period up

543
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:29,920
to around Midian and like yeah,
yeah, Dusk Dust through to Median that's

544
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,559
what they're like. I'm the big
short of film fan, but those three

545
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:37,320
albums that is like a like perfect
free album curve for me that I'm like

546
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,079
Budge of the like yeah, budge
of them in the set and I'm hopefully

547
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:45,639
some call like deep cut stuff like
vampires like that and problem perfect headlines set,

548
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,440
you know, more more visual theatrics
than a Damnation usually has. You

549
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,719
know, they'll be on the the
biggest stage. You know, you'll get

550
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,559
a full Cradle of Filth type headline
show. Maybe they'll be the fucking like

551
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:00,519
you know, the pull medium show
that I saw when they did Currently in

552
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:05,280
full, when they had like actresses
and daft shit. Probably not that,

553
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,639
but like, yeah, Cradle are
a great live band. They are an

554
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,719
essential part of I would say general, but certainly UK. You know extreme

555
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,119
metal history, such a pivotal band, such an incredible heritage that, like

556
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:22,519
I said, feels like it should
aligned with Damnation at some point. And

557
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,599
yeah, just get the set list
right and this could be, you know,

558
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,000
have potential to be something really special. It will be at the very

559
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:35,440
least pretty fucking great. So that
is and hopefully bleeding through us like a

560
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:38,760
leading is right. Oh yeah,
you're right. On the same day as

561
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,000
bleeding through playing this is love,
this is murderous. I am going to

562
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,199
arrivee in a cape. I am
going to like have a procession walking into

563
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,360
the venue holding a candelarbra. It's
gonna be fucking great and nails. Yes,

564
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,639
And we should also say, actually
on the rest that there was also

565
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,440
a few more bands added to the
lineup in this same announcement. Are they

566
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,880
not to be body stiffed out either, because we've got Interama, Fuming Mouth,

567
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,400
two hundred stab Wounds and Resin.
Resin are not familiar with. I

568
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,719
believe they're like a stoner deal.
But two hunder stab wounds that's filling up

569
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,239
the kind of like undeathed last year
and Fuming Mouth like, is that that

570
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
that again with like gay creeper,
fuming mouth, u tild stab wounds.

571
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,079
That's like a really good modern death
metal Like yeah, isn't it that?

572
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:22,679
That's you know, on the cusp
of you know, being quite popular,

573
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440
stuff that people want to see at
you know, good bookings at that point

574
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,880
in time, and Interama are basically
like the heaviest live band in the world.

575
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,320
So any one of those stages I
would want to see Tarama on either

576
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:38,199
make the most insane noise you can
in the big one or crush the ever

577
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,400
living fuck out with the smallest one. I can't believe it's been five years

578
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,519
since they last played Damnation. That
was the last time I saw them,

579
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,440
but they were unbelievably brilliant and yeah, very excited that they are going to

580
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,719
be coming back as well. So
I think there's still maybe eight or nine

581
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,559
bands or something to be added to
this Damnation bill, But now it is

582
00:37:54,599 --> 00:38:00,480
looking really fucking tasty, and it's
like February and they've been selling really well,

583
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:05,559
so particularly we they've nearly like reached
like what they sold together, like,

584
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,840
you know, particularly, I think
we're gonna have a very successful Damnation

585
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,920
this year, which is very very
nice. Indeed, Coalesce have announced that

586
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
they are going to be performing at
Furnace Fest twenty twenty four, which is

587
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000
their first show in twelve years.
I guess this is a you know,

588
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,159
if we are going to be losing
the Botch reunion by sort of summer this

589
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:27,920
time this year, the you know, the kind of old school metalcore gods

590
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960
they giveth and they take it away, Coalesce, yeah, can be returning

591
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:37,000
this time. Health have released a
cover of death Tones Be Quiet and Drive,

592
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,719
which feels like sespeisely we're talking about
heal quite recently, cause we're talking

593
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,559
about always the whole so called baddy
core sensation, and Health of almost like

594
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,119
a weird hangarund as part of that, where like they're not as popular as

595
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:52,000
sleep Token and spirit Box, but
they're kind of like sort of able to

596
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,079
sneak in the door as part of
that. And death Tones are like,

597
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:59,480
you know, the bloody They're like
the baddie coore band and the late nineties,

598
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,039
aren't they like people everyone's trying to
be So this just makes I guess,

599
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:07,199
you know, if you're trying to
very exactly tap into the zeitgeist of

600
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,559
this movement, at this point in
time. Then a Deaftnes cover is like

601
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:19,679
the sense that yeah, and I
think it helps that be Quiet Drive is

602
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,280
such like an instantly recognizable song that, even though they've basically changed all of

603
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,199
it, when I'm listening to what
I still feel like I'm listening to the

604
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:34,039
death Tone song. So it's like
this interesting, you know, art electro

605
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,880
industrial band, but when it's going
into my ears, I'm just like,

606
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:42,239
ah the nineties. Yes, we
also have My Dying Bride have announced their

607
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,800
new album. One of the best
bands in the world, Risk Meat Razor

608
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,159
announces a new album as well.
That's gonna be coming up next month.

609
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:50,039
I believe. At least The Archers
have announced a new album. There's some

610
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,719
kind of weird AI concept going on
there that I haven't quite got my head

611
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:58,280
around yet. It's like AI is
sort of partially integrated into like the creation

612
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,400
over the album, which I you
know, at least the Archers are a

613
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,760
great band. Their last album is
genuinely fantastic for that kind of power metal.

614
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,079
Yeah, very slightly. My backup
is about it, but you know,

615
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:09,079
I'll go in with an open mind. Song is quite good, though

616
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:13,239
too fair Like, yeah, it
didn't hit me like a we'll see how

617
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,800
it kind of rolls out here,
kitty, if you are you know of

618
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,840
that particular generation. They have released
their first music in thirteen years. They

619
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,599
have signed to Sumerian Records. They
have an album coming out and there's also

620
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,239
a new band featuring Fenris on vocals, featuring members of bands like Orin Noir,

621
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,679
also from Norway involved in the creation
of the music from this. Fenriz

622
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:36,559
being part of a new band is
always it's like a nice treat that happens,

623
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:40,920
maybe like once a decade or so. Fenris being solely the vocalist of

624
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,199
that band is a particular thing.
The band is called Coffin Storm Elliott.

625
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:50,679
Have you heard this song? Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah it Fenris the

626
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:58,840
singer, what a absolute treasure.
He's one of those where it's like,

627
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,599
no matter of what you sound like, as soon as you get Fender's on

628
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:07,320
vocals singing for you, it doesn't
matter anyway. It's just it's evapora.

629
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,400
All you can hear is It reminds
me of the first Dark Throne record I

630
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,440
ever heard was Circled the Wagons.
I had hyped out to me, their

631
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,960
classic black metal band, and it's
like you know, Treasures will Never Be

632
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,320
for You and now anything that harks
back to that, just like it's such

633
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,280
a He's got such a weird voice. The one, Yeah, is the

634
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,159
absolute genuinely modern classic record, the
Underground Resistance, but the songs on that,

635
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,440
like Valkyrie that Venders takes the lead
vocals on, fucking bar Me and

636
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:45,360
Yeah, it's just nice to hear
him living his truest life and lunatic.

637
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Yeah, you Fender's band. I'm
excited cool Patreon. This past week we

638
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,800
did are a Lectors on Fire special
Part one of me You, Sam and

639
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,239
Mark as well. We spoke about
the first not even a decade, it's

640
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,960
like the first six years or something
of their career that we covered in that.

641
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:07,239
But that included their first album,
which is a fascinating thing to kind

642
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,960
of, you know, really go
into in retrospect knowing what they go on

643
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,760
to do. We spoke about the
classic watch Out album. We spoke about

644
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,679
the really fucking classic Crisis album.
We are going to be coming back in

645
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,639
you know, a few weeks time
to complete that story. We're going to

646
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:24,599
talk about side projects. As I
said at the end of that particular episode,

647
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,000
yes this does mean we argue talking
about the Dallas, Green and Pink

648
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,519
album that they released together. But
Sam, just going through particularly those first

649
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,599
three records when we're getting up to
Crisis, we like our slobber is slobbering

650
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:43,280
hard, get you know, ramping
up more so throughout that episode, it

651
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,599
was a really a joy to do. Yeah, I mean, like some

652
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,559
of these specials you know that we've
done, there's been like a bit of

653
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:51,440
a jury of discovery for me,
where you know, I learned things about

654
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,079
either like bands have kind of got
a casual interest in more of or bands

655
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,119
like Deaf and we did that that
or like that was a real sort of

656
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:00,320
jenny for me. This is just
like, oh yeah, one of my

657
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,719
favorite bands I listened to daily almost
like just going oh yeah, this band

658
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,800
are fucking brilliant. And this sort
of step by step improvement that they made

659
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,039
from album to album on these first
three lead into like a genuine classic album.

660
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,320
Like it's just brilliant, and I
like and just how good Crisis is

661
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,440
when you actually break it down and
like look at that track list and go

662
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,360
song by a song and be like
every song fucking ridiculous. Yeah, really

663
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
good time. It's funny, you're
talking about the kind of voyage of discovery

664
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,440
thing that's you know, that's not
me with Alex on Fire in terms of

665
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,320
like, you know, particularly by
the time we've reached the end of that

666
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,480
special wh we're talking about Crisis,
that's now my love very much. Yeah,

667
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,000
but I guess I'm slightly more on
that end and you know, really

668
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,280
self titled, like you know,
you're really getting into, you know,

669
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,400
the the details of a record like
Crisis, in a record like watch Out,

670
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,000
but a record that you know,
they what is it that makes them

671
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,480
classics? You know, not just
oh these are big choruses, this is

672
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,960
a really stacked track list, but
the the how a record like Crisis works,

673
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:59,280
the mood of it, the thematics
of it, the kind of the

674
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,360
overall usion of it, interplay between
the different members, the music, the

675
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,920
vocalists, like all these elements are
sort of slotting together, like refining it

676
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,760
after like each album, just refining
that vocalist balance a little bit more and

677
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,199
just it just coming together like perfectly
for Crisis. Yeah, and so you

678
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,079
know, getting inside that again,
We've got another part to go, but

679
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:20,800
I think, you know, by
the time we reach the end of that,

680
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,280
I am kind of being gonna end
up going like, uh, are

681
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,920
alex on Fire like the best post
hardcore band? I don't know, like

682
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,360
it's it's certainly an argument that we
are going to consider over the course of

683
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,239
these specials because that is the level
of band that we are talking about in

684
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239
that regard. So if you want
to hear our first, like you know,

685
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,559
two to three hours of us talking
about the first part of the lex

686
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,880
on Fire's career, then you can
find that at Patron dot com slash That's

687
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,119
Not Metal. I was going to
announce the album clubs in this episode because

688
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,679
it was gonna be the review show. I guess should I do that?

689
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:53,400
Yeah, you had one earlier.
I'll give you a hint of what one

690
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,239
is. We'll be back next week
when we will tell you all of what's

691
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,400
going on there as well, but
that will also, of course be Patron

692
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,440
dot com slash That's Not Matter over
in the coming weeks. Get involved that

693
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,639
if you want to hear the best
podcast we do, if you want to

694
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:09,079
support this podcast and help us do
what we do. It's the only thing

695
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,440
that keeps us living and breathing over
here in your ears. So thank you

696
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,880
very much for everyone who chooses to
do so. And finally, for this

697
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,079
hyperblasts, we've got releases for the
week. I think for me there are

698
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:24,639
certainly there is. There is one
release I really think you should be definitely

699
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,760
checking out. But there's you know
what that is, don't we pair?

700
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:34,039
We know exactly. Yeah, it's
great. There is not life for everyone

701
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,840
this week, regardless of what your
one release might end up being. Even

702
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,000
if you are an Idols fan,
there might be something for you specifically there

703
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:44,440
is because Idles have an album out. It's called Tank. It's I'm saying

704
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,519
Tank. I don't think I've put
this in incorrectly. It's t like tang

705
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,320
with a K on the end.
I don't know what that means. There's

706
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,400
probably some concept about like peace and
love and forgiveness or something. But you

707
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,239
know, Idols they've got there how
many records of Idol's got now, it's

708
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,320
just like five or six they've been
churning them out. I think it's five

709
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:05,000
because they cruel after Ultra Mono,
unless there's than another one between it.

710
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,280
It's mad that we don't know how
many records Idols have. They really they

711
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,239
feel like they've started tune out after
Ultra Mono just like, yeah, that

712
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,199
was it wasn't it? Like,
because they're still a big band and they're

713
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:19,559
still playing sizeable venues, So I
can't say that they've dropped off or anything.

714
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440
I guess it's people have made their
minds up about whether they're like in

715
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:27,960
or not. Yeah, but it
is bizarre the Idols, like you know,

716
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Circle could it move for them and
draw of the Act of Resistance,

717
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:31,960
like yeah, like twenty eighteen or
whatever. But they were like, you

718
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,599
know, the saviors of rock,
and now they're just kind of like,

719
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,519
oh yeah, Idols are just a
band that continue to exist. It is

720
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:42,400
quite quite bizarre in that regard.
Blackberish Smoke are also about who continue to

721
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,400
exist. They've got their record be
right here, there are your two records.

722
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400
I suppose if you're looking at like
all rock's gonna make a dent in

723
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,840
the album charts or that kind of
thing. We do have. As mentioned,

724
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,760
Laura Jane Grace has got her solo
album Hole in my Head. I

725
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,239
don't know how many Solar Amsas is
from Laura Jane Grace at this point.

726
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,800
It's a third album and there was
like an ep as We're all like mini

727
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,159
album. I like what I've heard
of this one. Yeah, I was

728
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,480
gonna say, like Laura Jane Grace, we joked several times that like,

729
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:13,280
yeah, obviously you are going to
like this, but also there's a certain

730
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,719
degree of like, so do against
me exist as they? So they haven't

731
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,039
existed since twenty eighteen I think it
was, yeah, twenty nine, but

732
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,320
like it was it was was COVID. Pandemic did an interview quite recently and

733
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,920
the band fell apart over COVID.
They were going to studios recording album and

734
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,559
it went to shit and they haven't
talked to each other until like this year.

735
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,199
Again. Yeah, but basically,
you know with this particular Laura Jane

736
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:38,719
Grace album, is that you know
you'll have looked into it more than myself.

737
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,840
Is there a particular sort of angle
or story to this one? Like

738
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,599
how? Because again total transparency.
As a non fan, I look at

739
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:47,920
this and go like, oh,
another Laura Jane Gray solo album. I

740
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,199
bet it's a bunch of acoustic songs
that will sound the same to me.

741
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,679
I don't care, But is there
like what what's at the angle? I

742
00:47:54,679 --> 00:48:00,519
guess with this specific album from the
songs I've heard, not acoustic songs like

743
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,360
that. Like again, she's kind
of writing in the sort of sub two

744
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,159
minute like condense it down into like
a short burst as possible, but it

745
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,719
is this feels a bit more full
band as I said abou angler some of

746
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,800
what she's done before, So I
don't know who else is playing on it,

747
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,440
but there is more of a like
unit there rather than just Laura by

748
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,280
herself. It feels kind of like
the I've just excised all my demons over

749
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,880
the last few years, and like
she's been in a better place and all

750
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,360
that, like really good interviews did
I come of all the deals with it?

751
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,039
But it was for Rolling Stone a
couple of weeks ago, well worth

752
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,920
a read for kind of like the
story behind this, But yeah, this

753
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,480
sort of feels like that maybe the
sort of closing chapter of the sort of

754
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:42,079
solo years as she's kind of hinted
that, like maybe against Me can start

755
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:45,159
functioning again. So yeah, maybe, and you can hear that unfolding on

756
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:51,079
her record Hole in My Head is
Shan and his self titled record may or

757
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,079
may not have been the record that
I was actually referring to. We're going

758
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:57,320
to talk about that fully in depth
when we do a review show. It

759
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,079
is a monolithic thing. It is
a if you've ever wanted to if you've

760
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:05,880
ever wanted to get into Issa,
you might as well fucking you know,

761
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,320
strap your diving helmet on and just
go right in with this absolute maniac of

762
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,159
a thing. It is very very
cool. Indeed, Bokassa have a new

763
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:20,599
album, All Out of Dreams as
a band profiler on Sharp Tone Records.

764
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,280
Who least record a digital nowhere again. I put this in because again like

765
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,800
bad like Sharp Tone Records and stuff
that's kind of on the up a little

766
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,320
bit. I was checking this out. It's sort of a to me,

767
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,079
it sounded quite weak. It's sort
of like a new Metali metal core type

768
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:36,480
thing. Not really you know,
a lot going on there, but maybe

769
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,480
you will find something over there.
We have a band called Shooting Daggers,

770
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,000
which is called the records Love and
Rage. I was thinking Sam that this

771
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,480
cool band. Yeah, there's one
that you probably want to check out.

772
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,000
It's kind of a you know,
sort of a I believe London based come.

773
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:53,159
I saw them open for Scowl a
couple of months ago. Just kind

774
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:58,239
of really rowdy, feminist, hardcore
punk, really cool band. Yes,

775
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,679
we also have Gallo with a A
V where the A is twin flames.

776
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:06,360
That's a kind of you know,
gothys synth wave type, you know,

777
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,880
that kind of deal. The Obsessed
legendary you doom you know blues outfit their

778
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,440
record Gilded Sorrow. There is a
record called Praise Sorry from a band called

779
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,039
Praise the Plague. The record is
called Suffocating the Current of Time that is

780
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,320
really sludgy black metal. If you
like your black metal to just sound like

781
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,360
you are at the bottom of a
pit of tar, just absolutely, you

782
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,760
know, if you like things like
Thou and whatnot and want a bit of

783
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,199
kind of you know, necro in
there as well, then you can go

784
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,320
and find that record if you want
to get really spacely a neckro. Dark

785
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:42,599
Space are back with a record called
dark Space Minus two, which is not

786
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:47,679
to be confused with the record dark
Space two that they release many a year

787
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,599
ago. I don't know what is
going on with that band's numbering system,

788
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,960
but it's something like the fifth or
sixth dark Space record where maybe they've met

789
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,800
in the middle and they're going backwards. I don't know. I don't know

790
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,280
if the means it's more ambient or
whatever, but yeah, more dark Space

791
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,480
and if you want some just horrible
death metal as a band called pest Length,

792
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,679
which I thought, we're really like, we are getting every you know,

793
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,239
conglomeration of like words in death metal
that you can put together and rhyme

794
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,639
with things and change whatever. Pest
Length their record Solar Chlorx. There you

795
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:23,519
go. That's your release for this
week. Thank you very much for being

796
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:25,719
with us. Apologies for not being
here with the reviews bag, but we

797
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,440
will be back with that next week
when we are going to talk about the

798
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:35,000
Chelsea Wolf album from you know last
week, I believe the e Sound album

799
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,239
that we just mentioned records from Alkaline
Tria. We're going to come back to

800
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,320
that one job for a cowboy spectral
voice. There's some fucking big it's a

801
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,599
really really again I've done on my
listening everything. It's a great fucking reviews

802
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,719
bag, I must say. So
we are going to tell you all about

803
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,920
those records next time. Patroon dot
com. Slash That's non Metal is where

804
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,960
you can find our currently Alex on
Fire special which will conclude fairly soon.

805
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,599
We'll have the album Clubs that I
will announce next week as well. Going

806
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:01,800
over there, so cheers very much
for being with us. We will see

807
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,119
you for all of that next time. Bye bye,