Hello everybody, Welcome to That's Not Metal, your weekly rock and heavy metal
podcast, and welcome to Hyperblast. This time, my name is Paren Haish.
We've got Sam Dignot and Elliott Paisley here as well. Happy Valentine's Day
if you so celebrate. This past week, we were this was meant to
be the reviews show, the big reviews bag for the month. We you
said it would be last time. We've not been able to bring you that
this time, but that will be coming next week. This time, as
said, it's fairly impromptu Hyperblast, so we've not got any questions or anything
like that, but we are going to rattle through some pretty excited news,
you know, for rock and metal fans of all stripes. I think there's
something for you this time. And then of course we've got pretty great week
for releases, and yeah, let's get into all of that. First up,
I suppose we can talk for a little bit about some pretty cool shows
happened this week. I am going to quickly talk first about I haven't seen
Malevolence this past week on their like self proclaimed victory lap tur like this was.
I guess it was like six months ago or something. They did like
a larger UK tour. I did not go to that, but you know,
coming back again so soon and like selling out venues and stuff again,
I think is always a sign of like a band who are really on a
high. I think the last time that I saw Malevolence was like about a
year ago opening that Trivium tour. So I will see Malevolence, you know,
I'll go somewhere to see Malevolence once a year. That's perfectly vying by
me. And they brought with them a particularly mosh worthy bill, like it's
for the small venues. They brought the marshers Rough Justice, who we reviewed.
Have to say, you know, not a lot to say about them.
They're kind of lets to say about them live even than there was the
record there is that there's that title track on that record, Faith in Vain,
which they closed with and the main riff and that song really kind of
stood out. But that was sort of the first moment of their set that
kind of did at all. They were made to look kind of average by
the next band, which was Pain of Truth. Who are It's sad that
they're like kind of hardcores it band of the moment, aren't they? They
are like the New York hardcore band to like if you only pig up like
New York card called. They are the currents or flag bearers for that.
They're basically just like the reincarnation of mad Ball, aren't they? And like
again, just the past few weeks, they seem to have just sort of
really like so much good will around them, Like I want to love them
more than I actually do, mainly because the artwork they released last year on
that album with the gun like in the Guy's mouth but the like is like
from inside the mouth. That's fucking crazy that cover. I don't think they've
really got the songs fully. Yeah, but let me tell you they are
a fucking rad live band. They're so good live, aren't they, Like,
I mean, that's it. They nail the rowdy just pure stomping hardcore
atmosphere. Yeah, like a really violent bruising, i'd to say. Across
the tour there was a sensational entry music game because Pain of Truth came out
to the like nineteen fifty four Godzilla, which was amazing, and then malevol
It's Not the Stage came out to Hello Zepp from the the music the plays
whenever a crazy twist happens in sauce. That was great, getting very excited
multiple times, but yeah, Pain of Truth is really like aggressive. There
was this one moment when they were just they swapped instruments like over the course
of a song. I don't know if this is the thing they always do,
but like the singer walked over to the guitarist on the like left hand
side of the stage that took his guitar, and that guitarist went and did
like a vocal spot, and then that guitarist then did the same thing going
over to the bassist on the other side of the stage, and he then
did it. So over the course of like this one minute portion of a
song or whatever, like the singer had become the guitarist, the guitarists to
become the bassis, and the bassis have become the singer. Is a wonderful
just like that feeling you sort of get of like a gang with like a
hard past the mi cough. Yeah, like you know again like a kind
of you know, a New York crew. That was again really really fine.
I think if they can you know, keep upping like the songwriting and
everything, they've at least got the presence to be a really cool hardcore band,
and Malevolence people love that band, don't they. Like I've got to
say, like all the kind of you know, popular sort of metalcore,
whatever kind of hardcore contemporary kind of just metal bands, they've got to have
one of the more like devoted fan bassis, considering like we said about the
kind of coming back so soon, doing so well, but just like hearing
people sing songs and everything, and it was again, the set is basically
exactly what you would expect if you've seen Malevolence over the last cup of years.
All the same kind of songs from from the album and everything. You
know, they keep you distance ep all that business. The same song still
there from Sel Supremacy or whatever, and they're all just hits, and it's
you know, it's nice to see their kind of generation of metal bands just
kind of being firmly consolidated in that kind of headline slot, you know,
as I remember seeing them on the Self Supremacy tour in a venue like fucking
a fifth of the size that I just saw them in, and again this
was like the smaller venue tour than the show they just did six months ago.
The fact that they're now up to like drum solo size that they got
on that, and there was one point where we brought out giant comedy cartoon
sticks and again it is basically the same set that they've been doing. But
when you look at like the encore songs they did and it's keep Your Distance,
Serpent's choke Hold and Unbroken Glass, it's a pretty that's that's a hit
run like these are all from different releases, really fucking good. And then
their outro music was left outside learned by Anastasia, which again I'm gonna say,
cowards only having that as your outro give the people what they want.
There's a second person who said that exactly to fucking tease. It's terrible,
but they were really, really good, and I suppose if this is again
they're kind of self proclaimed victory laptour. Probably over the course of the year,
next year or whatever, they'll go into the studio and maybe level up
yet again, who knows. The other thing that happened that both me and
you Sam were at was twice, well yeah, you twice. I guess
we can talk about if there any differences across your two nights, but uh,
you know, my sort of immersion into the largest concentration of flat caps.
I will be around any flannelty and flannel shirts. Yeah, the Mensingers
my I guess, sort of bi annual trip to see band support the Mensingers,
who are just nice and don't have any more defining characteristics or distinguling features.
I mean, who was the opening bad Lady like I would watched was
like I like this, this is really good. This is a mensinger's opening
band, the most inexplicable five piece I have ever seen. Yeah, like,
calm the fuck down, Colta Luna, what is going on? Like
like they are just like the most Oh this is a mensinger's opening band,
which again I'm totally happy to watch, but it was it was when I
think, that's like the last times I've seen them with sincere Engineer in Katina,
the singer from Lady was the singer from Kayatana, So yeah, it
is kind of the same sort of slot. Again, like I said,
it completely inexplicable five piece. Then there was Prince Daddy and Hyaena, who
again for me the last several Mensingers tours. In terms of my personal interest
in the supports, you know, it peaked when they had pup. It's
kind of gone downhill for me ever since Prince Daddy and the Hyaena. I
don't have listened to properly since we reviewed an album. There's in like twenty
eighteen or something, and I just remember the singer being absolutely unbearable. He
was not I don't know if he's toned it down on the latest records or
something. He wasn't the worst, but it did make me go, man,
I would have been having such a better time right now if the Dirty
Nail were supporting rather than this, Like when you missed that one. They
did that, they did miss that one eighteen yeah, and this was,
you know, songless. I enjoyed princetone in the he I like them when
they're being a bit more rowdy and kind of the slightly more punk leaning songs.
There are a couple of the kind of where they go a bittween email,
which I do find I was like, these are these were right,
but they weren't whound me. But they had the kind of a nice bit
of mix up between the more high energy stuff and and the sort of sappiest
stuff. I thought they were good, but I can see why you might
far might have found them just yeah, like kind of just there Inertia.
It was a slow start to the evening, but then the mensing has happened
and the Men Singers. I suppose, you know, you went to two
shows. What was the menu. It was in electric Ball, so it
was smaller than they can do, but you know, spreading two nights of
it. Yeah, probably it's about the same as what they did in London
last time at the Round How Yeah, this is obviously it's the support for
the latest album. Some of it was true. I remember the last time
I saw the Mensingers, which was like eighteen months ago or something, in
the same venue. I had a bit about deja vous with it, but
that was you know, they were technically touring Hello Exile, but they weren't
really doing a lot off it. It sort of felt like a hey,
we're just kind of back again kind of tour this time, you know,
there was much more concentration on the new album I did again. Personally,
I missed the tour with Spanish love songs and all that, so I feel
like I've not seen a lot of the Hello Exile stuff. I'd like to
see, you know, some of those songs. But going in and you
know, hope is a dangerous little thing is like the song I had been
just one thing to see and it's the very first song they played. And
yeah, like I was again like they came up the first I was with
all my mates and they came and open with that, and I'd had a
few beers and just arms were in the air and I was just like,
right, cool, this is this is all I need for the next hour
and a half into I don't want to be an asshole anymore. I should
I like they always do. I don't want to be in arsworld? And
why am I cheering? But I'm like, no, I kind of forget
that they do it. I guess, you know, for your the men
thingers were great, and certainly you're not going to say a negative word about
them. I'm not gonna say no. Well, were there any across your
two nights? Were there any meaningful differences in terms of like different songs or
anything. Yep. So first night they pulled out Rodent, which was a
really nice little deep cut that I'd not never seen them play before, which
annoyingly, they cut America You're Freaking me Out, which I was like,
ah, that was a bit of a well you got that. Another note
right, I got that the following night, but I was like, I
was quite happy to see a deep cut from Rented World, like which,
like, other than that, the only thing they brought out from that was
I don't want to be an asshole like that album is now that doesn't really
get it's kind of that and hello works. I'll kind of feel like the
ones now where it's just going to be the big hitters and then maybe if
you're lucky, a deeper cut that would be quite cool. But the big
difference on night two, it was the seventh anniversary of After the Party,
Oh right, so they they didn't play the whole album, but they obviously
for the an album that's already making a bulk of the set list, they
pulled out a number of other songs that they hadn't been playing on other nights,
So they did Your Wild Years. They did Charlie's Army, which they
hadn't been I know if they've been doing it the other nights, but that
was a nice or of like, oh hey, one of my favorite albums
and these there's been seven years, and I was like, fuck off,
has it been seven years since After the Party came out? Like where has
the time gone really two albums since then, I know, like, but
that was that was the kind of the more the bigger change between the two
nights. Otherwise it was like, yeah, very heavy on the new album,
which seeing those songs live has kind of cemented how I really think it's
like top three men's albums for me. At this point, I was so
in on all those songs live, and the crowd in London in particular they
were as wells for all of them. I wouldn't say it changed my opinion
the album, but I do think, you know, when we reviewed it,
I thought, this is very very good. It's just not as good
as Peak Benzing and stuff. I still think. I also, again for
at least for us, maybe it's the larger any whatever, because those songs
they are a bit slower and they are but you know, when they're doing
like Ultra Violet or whatever, they are a bit sort of like meek and
so I did notice difference in terms of like how rowdy people were getting for
you know, any of the classic stuff versus those. But I you know,
I enjoyed the songs melodically. I thought, you know, particularly a
couple of them were very good indeed, and yeah, they're even still always
are with Menzics. There are other songs that you would like to to see,
I think in terms of like swapping songs out and ship that I don't
know if you've got we got The first song of the on care was Gates
from Yeah we Got Gates. We've got Gates on night one actually Gates on
that That was that they came out and were kind of like, what songs
do you want to hear? And so there are a few songs. I
think they mentioned Charlie's Army as one. They were doing like kind of you
know, swapping stuff around like that one they like do you want wings?
What do you want? Gately? And my main impression was, you know,
obviously with the addition to a bunch of new stuff, which was nice
to see, did stop it feeling kind of, you know, like,
oh, this is the Mensinger show? Is they? I think the Mensings
are at a stage now where they have earned so much goodwill from their classics,
right it's like they I think unless they dramatically change style, which I
don't think they're going to do, they can basically do whatever they want now
forever, as long as they turn up and play telling lies and Lookers.
Yeah, and the shows are going to have the exact same vibe, the
exact same response for for as long as people want that. There's there's no
real deviation in like what kind of show the Menzingers are delivering. I do
like you know what you're saying about some of the deep cuts or even singles
from like Rental World or whatever, like I do I miss in Remission.
I haven't seen that. I you know, said a couple of those Hello
Axile songs or whatever, like I've never seen Strangers Forever, which feels weird
as that was one of those singles from that, But it is basically,
they turn up. They do everything that you know, even a casual Mensingers
fan would want them to do, and yeah, they can do that forever
and ever because they've earned so much good will off of that string of twenty
ten's classics that nothing really needs to change. And when you look at the
set list, yeah, if you've seen the Mensingers a few times, there's
not really much to kind of particularly mark it out. But like, of
course, you know, I mean Lookers like fifth or I couldn't believe Lookers
was like that just kind of like it wasn't even like in that kind of
exciting opening run. It was just kind of once you got past that and
they just going to start playing Lookers, I was like, oh yeah.
And then you look through his set list and there's Anna and Telling Lives and
burn After Writing and nice things and America You're freaking me out, and the
habituaries and all that stuff. It's just like, yeah, this is a
I enjoyed Tom looking. I don't know if he was what he was wearing
for you, but he was wearing this kind of suit that made him look
like some kind of seventies porn producer or had he had a seventies been going
on, like the round sunglasses and actually he had quite like patterned shirt and
like with his hair and he looking more and more like you should be in
Boogie Nights or something. But yeah, it was a very good time as
long as they keep you know, I suppose you can say you can from
two shows having different shows each night, like they are just always gonna deliver,
you know, kind of what Mensingers fans want from them. Yeah,
I'm again, I like the biggest Mensings fan here. I could not have
said a bad thing about even again, Like if I wanted to pick up
be like, well, you know, I would just say this bum was
like, but I never don't want to go see them and have them not
play telling guys and lookers and the obituaries like if I don't hear those songs
live, I will be sad. And so it's just like what you're gonna
do, Just I'm gonna have a good time either way. Yeah, there
was a great time. Indeed, speaking of potential great times, I suppose
we have a whole bunch of news to talk to you about today on this
hyperblast and we are going to start with the massive rock band to be releasing
new music this week, Elliot. We're gonna bring you in now. Hello
Elliott, thank you for listening to a talk about live shows for a little
while there. We're talking about Pearl Jam, who have announced a huge world
tour. It is an accompaniment of their new album, their twelfth album,
twelve Pearl Jam Albums. Dark Matter is the name of it. It's out
on April the nineteenth. They have released. Is it the title track?
I believe it is the title track from that record, Pearl Jam. You
two, I think maybe hopefully could speak more from the at least Pearl Jam
agnostics sort of standpoint than myself. On this Pearl Jam releasing a new song,
I had to go back and remind myself if I had even heard the
last album. It turns out I had reviewed it on this show. I'd
forgotten about it, and then I went back and I revisited. I was
like, oh, yeah, it's the one that had the really weird like
synth disco lead single, weird little pivots like that. But putting this on,
it's certainly moving away from I guess whatever that little experiment. What are
your thoughts on, like, how much do you care about? Like I
said, this is absolutely a huge, huge rock band the world tour.
You know that they are doing the venues they're playing there, They're unsurprisingly,
you know, fucking huge everywhere doing you know, like the Tottenham hots Perstadium
in London. How much do you care and how interested are you in?
You know, twenty twenty four what Pearljam rupt. I am totally middled by
Pearl Jam sort of at all times because are you like me in that sense
then yeah, sort of like I probably have more positive views. I think
they've got a really strong greatest hit set, which is sort of ill fitting
for them because famously they change their set list all but I don't know.
I think like Versus is good, Ten's good, They Avocado one's good.
I don't really love many of their records, and that kind of extends to
the bad stuff as well. Like the Pearl Jam records, I'm not keen
on. They don't bother me in the slightest. I'm I'm slightly confused by
this thing where some people, I know, it's they're their favorite band in
the world, the way that some people feel about Rush, but people feel
about Pearl Jam. And yeah, that's kind of an anathema to me.
I think the songs all right, Like it's got a catchy chorus, it's
got some strut to it. It's not doing that weird synth discod thing they
were doing on the last record. It does sound a bit like an iPod
advert, but it's not the worst advert I've ever heard. When I pressed
play on it and the drum terro happened, I thought I was Halo by
Soil. That's exactly what I think. Andrew, with the guy they're working
with this time, Andrew wat has obviously done the Aussie records recently and Rolling
Stones out and stuff. I'm not that taken with his production work so far.
He has these really washy drum sound it's weird. Yeah yeah, And
I saw the headline thought that's one of the weirdest like combinations of things.
Pearl Jam we were so rootsy and that seemed to be such a huge part
of the appeal. To partner them with someone who kind of came into this
through post alone is a bit weird. I don't think it sounds terrible,
but it's it's I know, it's slightly ill fitting I think. I mean
again, I don't mind Pearl Jam. They're they're they're of the big four
grunch bands. They've always been my last favorite. I mean again, like
ten's a really good album. I've never really done much of a deep dive
into many of the other albums because I've always just done a little bit too
nice out of all of those bands, which like, when I'm thinking about
band being a bit too nice, it's probably like there's like I mean,
the song's all right, it's it's you know, it's a big kind of
hard rocker like sounds fine, or like radio rock. It's plight enough where
it's not gonna, you know, turn off anyone too much. But it's
not so like that. It doesn't have a bit of like like power to
the guitars and the drums. But yeah, it just I've gone a bit
in one im out the other. It didn't really make much last thing in
cover like, hey, that's a that's a rock song. Yeah, like
you know, is it a do I again my sort of my Pearl Jam
disposition, don't want to actually shit on them unnecessarily. Is this a terrible
song? No? Is it a bad song? No? Not really,
But you know, Pearl Jam fans are so passionate and dedicated, as you
say, and it's such a like it just kind of like, okay,
we're just we're on different wavelength here, and that's that's perfectly fine. But
if Royal Blood released this song, you wouldn't piss in its direction like it's
just a fat nothing. You know, there are multiple songs across the first
three Royal Blood albums that are all better than Yeah, ye, what you
mean exactly. That's the only way it's it's that kind of just like that
that's a radio rock song. Yeah, I don't think the chorus is great.
It's just a you know, the riff is like a twenty year old
audio slave B side and that's that's all there is really say on it.
So Pearl Jammer back everyone. The world's greatest band, so ac DC are
also doing a fucking huge tour. We've been waiting for this to be announced.
It's kind of been long in the works. I suppose you know,
there's like four year old album at this stage that they're going to be touring.
They have announced some UK dates. The Power Up Tour is going to
be arriving. I cannot currently justify, you know, I'm doing some things
in a couple weeks or whatever. I do not currently have one hundred fortequid
drop on a ticket or whatever. Sam, you at the very least are
going to be going to a CDC. Yes, I have family at Wembley
who have decided to be like text me like during a CDC ticket. I'm
like, yes, yes, I will pay up. You know what?
I again, it said some of the thing I was saying when I went
like I made sure I saw Bruce monson last year's These are the sort of
bands I'm like, they come around now are they going to come back around?
I have no idea, So if I'm getting the opportunity, I'm jumping.
Yeah. It's not been explicitly like labeled like a CDC Farewell dates,
last UK dates the Power to exactly or anything like that, which is the
only slight bit of like maybe they'll do another one in like two years time
that they could make. But it's certainly you know that you don't know the
clock is ticking at this point. It's got to be, you know,
within the last couple of UK dates they'll do. And after looking at like
that set list from Power Trip, want to watch some videos of it,
and they like they look like the life Flum doesn't look too bad from that,
So I'm I'm excited to just go and watch some of the best rock
songs ever written played probably very loudly. Me And there's a big group of
us all strategizing like now, trying to work out how we're gonna get tickets
tomorrow. I'm genuinely anxious at the thought of trying to get a CD.
There's one hundred and sixty thousand for sale, and that doesn't feel like nearly
enough. Like the famine is it's famine mentality because our story is did you
see in twenty fifteen? I think when they did Wembley Stadium then, and
you know, it was fantastic, and I thought, I'd love to see
that again. It's like nine years later. They've released maybe one or two
songs since then that might be in the set list. I'd like to see.
Everything else will be the same. They're not going to be, you
know, younger than they were then. Cliffs is going to be there,
but it's like, if there's another nine years, I don't think there can
be hmm. The thought of missing it is making me feel a bit sick.
Yeah, So I I'm crossing my fingers that at some point down the
line, somehow things work out. Maybe they do that the Springsteen and they
just do it, they do another stadium tour next yeah, or if I
end up you know, fucking chilling out on resale or whatever at some point.
But whatever, ACDC, at the very least, we're going to have
Sam's report on T and M whenever that rolls around. Huge again, stadium
type tours going on there from some of the biggest bands in rock. Paramore
have announced after I would say unnecessary speculation from some of their fans that happens
every single time they release an album, and they haven't helped it this time.
I think that I did make it a little bit more like yeah,
but basically Paramore, who finished up their their record contract recently. They have
said that they are freshly independent, but they are still a band who plan
on having a lengthy career, which I would say is exactly the announcement that
I would have expected come the end of this little palava we've had over the
last like month, two months or whatever. I guess, you know,
Paramore, you know, we're seeing bands like Slipnot and stuff kind of going
in that direction. They probably are the band of the size who could,
like you know, have their own business to a pretty fucking substantial degree.
So yeah, good job, Paramore. Ozzie Osbourne has been beefing with Canye
West this week over an uncleared sample of Black cyberst Warpigs that CanYa West was
you know, attempting to use. Ozzie publicly posted on Twitter basically saying,
hey, Canye West, sample of this was not cleared. I specifically did
not give him access because he is an anti sea mite and I do not
want anything to do with him. Kanye has fired back to some superfluous degree.
I just, you know, someone summed up very well when they were
like I cannot believe an elderly white rock singer who is hating on a rapper
here is on the right side of of his that is genuinely startling. That
was that was like, man, we're all on this like for once.
It's the like the metal rock vocalist who everyone was out of touch is when
we're all rooting for It's like, yeah, no, no, he's in
the right. He's in the right. He's actually criticizing for the right reasons.
And just like, oh, rap music roll. I saw that statement
and I was like, yeah, fucking go on tell him. Yeah.
I think it was a lot of like yeah, you know, calling this
ship out. Yeah. And like when I saw the screenshot of this and
it was just Ossie in all caps, I just it is this going to
be like I don't give Mark Zuckerberg permission to print anything off my computer,
but like like you dreaming wrote it, like you know, reading the statement,
so like you say, it's kind of funny the way what's say funny,
Like it's interesting the way it's all fallen out and you know, obviously
Team Assy like fair play. Yeah, even Team Sharon in this regard,
that's a less less common occurrence. Got two pieces of very exciting UK festival
news again for different demographics here. First up, same building, You're right,
it's the same building BC in Manchester and ape Shit. First up,
Outbreak Festival confirmed its final headliner. There was a lot of speculations, Oh,
maybe they'll had to have Turnstile back again after a couple of years or
whatever. It turned out to be a band who have not played in the
UK. Am I right in saying since they have done their kind of return.
I think they did Outbreak in like twenty eighteen nineteen when they did their
initial little first return, okay last time. I feel like the Outbreak was
like the one UK show they did on that return. So we're talking about
have Heart are the third Outbreak headliner? The only hardcore headliner of the three
thoughts. I was thinking, you know, they certainly have to pull up
the stops with like the hard core slot when yeah, they've kind of got
the other two ones where they are. I was thinking, you know,
I guess it must have been post covid Have Heart. They did that like
fucking huge show. That was just pre covid think it was like and then
the world like okay, right, yeah, you know, since then this
is Have Heart's return. This is for a lot of people, is a
huge deal, I must say personally, like you know, the three headliness
here, we got Action Bronson on the hip Hop Day, there's American Football,
and there's Have Heart. My personal interest in that trio of Outbreak headliners
is like, those aren't my bands? Like that is that's not a true
of headline as that gets me very excited to be like, yeah, I
gotta go back to Outbreak this year. I'm for me. It's mainly like
if I was going to go, I want to see poison the Well,
et cetera. That kind of shit. But Have Heart for many people out
there, such as yourself, Sam seemingly from the way you've been kind of
carrying yourself throughout this, this is a good booking, didn't it. It
was? It was one of those because there was a couple of months ago
before Outbreak is announced anything, there was like this weird bit of online activity
from Have Heart, and everyone was gonna be like, Have Heart coming back,
and there was like that bet their headlining outbreak and then the drum was
like just tweeted that, yeah, it's not happening, and everyone kind of
went got sad, and then they've just gone bam outbreak and there's a bunch
of US hardcore festivals and shows and so like yeah, they clearly was like
yeah we are, We're back. So the two have Heart records that are
like the main one of the song scream at the Side and the things we
carry, they are like melodic hardcore classic album. Like how significant in terms
of like because my again looking at particularly American football and Have Heart, they
kind of seem like they I don't know they've been. It's not like I
don't like them, it's that they've been largely particularly Have Heart out of my
kind of peripheral vision and they seem more like, you know, huge deal
in America type stuff. How again over here is like, are have Heart
as like significant and influential a name as they might be. I would say
like they are one of those significance because like they broke up in two thousand
and nine, so for a lot of like argerments Hork fans, they've been
completely inactive Yeah, so I think it's kind of it's that sort of thing
of like, oh shit, this is this like pivotal band who are like
a massive deal in the two thousands, for like a sort of five six
year period, they were like a really sort of big deal on sort of
straight edge in malodic hardcore scenes, super influential to a lot of the sort
of melodic hardcore that came along in the Only twenty tens that I love,
like all of those sort of bands like oh so much to Have Heart,
And so it's kind of that thing of like this really important band from Nira
who haven't been around them my time being into hardcore, who I had to
kind of go and discover through getting into stick to your Guns and that kind
of stuff, and then like there the have arts influence on them discovering that.
So this week is like, oh cool, I now get my chance
to see this band who do hold a sort of really significant place within hardcore
history just for like a short period of time. Yeah, And kind of
on that front, there's you know, because it's the kind of as you
say, like maybe they are before a certain era in which a number of
people might have got an into stuff. They might have not Got Gone Back
or whatever. You know, we're going to do an American Football album club
because of this, you know that sort of similar thing. I was like,
you know, they're coming and doing an outbreak, They're doing that album.
Maybe I know that they are their name checked so much, but do
people actually know that album? And now I feel like we've got to fucking
do another one or they have heart albums are twenty minutes long. So yeah,
in the in the queue before June, we got like two Now like,
hey, these are headliners of that festival that happening who maybe people don't
actually know. It's a bit weird, but for if you are in the
note then have Art is going to be a huge deal. We also have
the Damnation headliner, the proper top of the bill band announced, and we've
got some other bands on that bill as well, which is not to be
overlooked, but people are going to be interested in that headline slot and it
is first, it should be said that it was Gavin the Damage promoter said
before the day before this announcement that it was a band who they had booked
to do a special old school set and I was trying to think who that
would be because I genuinely I couldn't think of a band who are, like,
you know, of the appropriate size to headline Damnation, who aren't already
booked in somewhere else, who would even have it be like a thing or
like a significant enough a divide or whatever to do something like that. And
I was like, you know, it can't be Opeth because they're doing Bloodstock.
I was like, is this where we get are mastered on doing like,
you know, Leviathan remission or whatever type thing someone mentioned in Flames,
which would have been interesting. Bizarrely, I don't know why it didn't cross
my mind that Cradler Filth would be the answer, but then it happened and
I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes that makes all the sense.
They're literally like the biggest British extreme metal band there's ever been, and it
would be I guess it's because they've they've never been involved Damnation before, but
it would be weird if the biggest British extreme metal medi ale time did not
at any point headline Damnation and doing it with a as said, old school
ritual set, which they it's not a particular album, era or anything.
They seem to be suggesting it's basically just like the first decade of their output,
you know, kind of Principle of Evil through to sort of around in
Fetamine time, which is quite a lot of albums, but that is also
it's classic material, in my opinion, one of the greatest stretches of music
ever committed to tape. Just banger after banger after banger, and I've got
songs I want to see in an old school ritual set. I want to
see songs from Principle of Evil made Flesh and Vampire and that kind of shit.
But they can do anything from that time, and I will be putty
in their hands. What a beautiful Again, I've seen credit for many,
many times, but there is something particularly appetizing about this idea. I am
so excited about this, Like, I don't know why I never considered Cridle
of Filth for a Damnation headliner, because it's like they just kind of always
swam. It's like different circles, even though they are clearly you know,
a British extreme metal man. Well yeah, and they're kind of nailed on
subheadliner at Bloodstock, and it's like it's hard to imagine them doing anything now
that would mean they ascended to that. They also don't seem like out of
Damnation's reach in any way, and I think that obviously not now. I
think, like the the I think the exclusive old school set aspect is probably
a smart move because, like you say, they are the biggest extreme metal
band in the UK has ever produced. But they're not a band who are
without their critics. Yes, but I think like, particularly at least in
the UK, the run we're talking about up to at least Midian probably up
to an infestiment as well, is pretty widely seen as a classic run,
and I think even though it's weird, they don't really have like you said,
there isn't a record where it's like that's then like Cradle of Filth Part
two, because it's like they do thornography and then they follow that with God's
Speed on the Devil's Thunder, which is more like the older stuff. So
it's it's a kind of weird choice, but I think it's smart in the
case of Damnation because the people who go who maybe might think Cradle of Filth
a bit of an MTV or Korrang TV band or whatever the stuff they're going
to be playing. I mean, you said the word vampire, and that
hadn't even occurred to me, And now I'm sort of dizzy. Well,
you know, win'ter throned in that fucking set, my god? Like yeah,
I mean, I suppose you're saying about, you know, up to
Ninfetamine or whatever. It's the MTV thing that is the idea they're banking on.
Is clearly what they often do with even with book when they book metical
bands and stuff like that, which is people of a certain age at Dan
Nation who are into extreme metal. This kind of stuff when it was out
would have been formative for them. And when you think about, you know,
Cradle the Filth up to the early two thousand, that kind of MTV
era when the her Ghost and the Fog video and the Ninfetamine and those kind
of songs, that has that power for a lot of people. And you
are right in terms of like, you know, if Cratl the Filth's just
turned up and which they don't do, and they're a brilliant live band and
they have been on a really great run of creative form anyway, but if
they turned up and went, yeah, we're doing pornography in full right,
it would not be quite quite as you know appropriate. But you know it,
if you are criticizing saying that that era that they're drawing on a Cradle
of Filth A is not appropriate for Damnation or B isn't good, I just
don't listen to what you have to say. Again for me, particularly if
in my head an old school era particularly you know, the nineties period up
to around Midian and like yeah, yeah, Dusk Dust through to Median that's
what they're like. I'm the big short of film fan, but those three
albums that is like a like perfect free album curve for me that I'm like
Budge of the like yeah, budge of them in the set and I'm hopefully
some call like deep cut stuff like vampires like that and problem perfect headlines set,
you know, more more visual theatrics than a Damnation usually has. You
know, they'll be on the the biggest stage. You know, you'll get
a full Cradle of Filth type headline show. Maybe they'll be the fucking like
you know, the pull medium show that I saw when they did Currently in
full, when they had like actresses and daft shit. Probably not that,
but like, yeah, Cradle are a great live band. They are an
essential part of I would say general, but certainly UK. You know extreme
metal history, such a pivotal band, such an incredible heritage that, like
I said, feels like it should aligned with Damnation at some point. And
yeah, just get the set list right and this could be, you know,
have potential to be something really special. It will be at the very
least pretty fucking great. So that is and hopefully bleeding through us like a
leading is right. Oh yeah, you're right. On the same day as
bleeding through playing this is love, this is murderous. I am going to
arrivee in a cape. I am going to like have a procession walking into
the venue holding a candelarbra. It's gonna be fucking great and nails. Yes,
And we should also say, actually on the rest that there was also
a few more bands added to the lineup in this same announcement. Are they
not to be body stiffed out either, because we've got Interama, Fuming Mouth,
two hundred stab Wounds and Resin. Resin are not familiar with. I
believe they're like a stoner deal. But two hunder stab wounds that's filling up
the kind of like undeathed last year and Fuming Mouth like, is that that
that again with like gay creeper, fuming mouth, u tild stab wounds.
That's like a really good modern death metal Like yeah, isn't it that?
That's you know, on the cusp of you know, being quite popular,
stuff that people want to see at you know, good bookings at that point
in time, and Interama are basically like the heaviest live band in the world.
So any one of those stages I would want to see Tarama on either
make the most insane noise you can in the big one or crush the ever
living fuck out with the smallest one. I can't believe it's been five years
since they last played Damnation. That was the last time I saw them,
but they were unbelievably brilliant and yeah, very excited that they are going to
be coming back as well. So I think there's still maybe eight or nine
bands or something to be added to this Damnation bill, But now it is
looking really fucking tasty, and it's like February and they've been selling really well,
so particularly we they've nearly like reached like what they sold together, like,
you know, particularly, I think we're gonna have a very successful Damnation
this year, which is very very nice. Indeed, Coalesce have announced that
they are going to be performing at Furnace Fest twenty twenty four, which is
their first show in twelve years. I guess this is a you know,
if we are going to be losing the Botch reunion by sort of summer this
time this year, the you know, the kind of old school metalcore gods
they giveth and they take it away, Coalesce, yeah, can be returning
this time. Health have released a cover of death Tones Be Quiet and Drive,
which feels like sespeisely we're talking about heal quite recently, cause we're talking
about always the whole so called baddy core sensation, and Health of almost like
a weird hangarund as part of that, where like they're not as popular as
sleep Token and spirit Box, but they're kind of like sort of able to
sneak in the door as part of that. And death Tones are like,
you know, the bloody They're like the baddie coore band and the late nineties,
aren't they like people everyone's trying to be So this just makes I guess,
you know, if you're trying to very exactly tap into the zeitgeist of
this movement, at this point in time. Then a Deaftnes cover is like
the sense that yeah, and I think it helps that be Quiet Drive is
such like an instantly recognizable song that, even though they've basically changed all of
it, when I'm listening to what I still feel like I'm listening to the
death Tone song. So it's like this interesting, you know, art electro
industrial band, but when it's going into my ears, I'm just like,
ah the nineties. Yes, we also have My Dying Bride have announced their
new album. One of the best bands in the world, Risk Meat Razor
announces a new album as well. That's gonna be coming up next month.
I believe. At least The Archers have announced a new album. There's some
kind of weird AI concept going on there that I haven't quite got my head
around yet. It's like AI is sort of partially integrated into like the creation
over the album, which I you know, at least the Archers are a
great band. Their last album is genuinely fantastic for that kind of power metal.
Yeah, very slightly. My backup is about it, but you know,
I'll go in with an open mind. Song is quite good, though
too fair Like, yeah, it didn't hit me like a we'll see how
it kind of rolls out here, kitty, if you are you know of
that particular generation. They have released their first music in thirteen years. They
have signed to Sumerian Records. They have an album coming out and there's also
a new band featuring Fenris on vocals, featuring members of bands like Orin Noir,
also from Norway involved in the creation of the music from this. Fenriz
being part of a new band is always it's like a nice treat that happens,
maybe like once a decade or so. Fenris being solely the vocalist of
that band is a particular thing. The band is called Coffin Storm Elliott.
Have you heard this song? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah it Fenris the
singer, what a absolute treasure. He's one of those where it's like,
no matter of what you sound like, as soon as you get Fender's on
vocals singing for you, it doesn't matter anyway. It's just it's evapora.
All you can hear is It reminds me of the first Dark Throne record I
ever heard was Circled the Wagons. I had hyped out to me, their
classic black metal band, and it's like you know, Treasures will Never Be
for You and now anything that harks back to that, just like it's such
a He's got such a weird voice. The one, Yeah, is the
absolute genuinely modern classic record, the Underground Resistance, but the songs on that,
like Valkyrie that Venders takes the lead vocals on, fucking bar Me and
Yeah, it's just nice to hear him living his truest life and lunatic.
Yeah, you Fender's band. I'm excited cool Patreon. This past week we
did are a Lectors on Fire special Part one of me You, Sam and
Mark as well. We spoke about the first not even a decade, it's
like the first six years or something of their career that we covered in that.
But that included their first album, which is a fascinating thing to kind
of, you know, really go into in retrospect knowing what they go on
to do. We spoke about the classic watch Out album. We spoke about
the really fucking classic Crisis album. We are going to be coming back in
you know, a few weeks time to complete that story. We're going to
talk about side projects. As I said at the end of that particular episode,
yes this does mean we argue talking about the Dallas, Green and Pink
album that they released together. But Sam, just going through particularly those first
three records when we're getting up to Crisis, we like our slobber is slobbering
hard, get you know, ramping up more so throughout that episode, it
was a really a joy to do. Yeah, I mean, like some
of these specials you know that we've done, there's been like a bit of
a jury of discovery for me, where you know, I learned things about
either like bands have kind of got a casual interest in more of or bands
like Deaf and we did that that or like that was a real sort of
jenny for me. This is just like, oh yeah, one of my
favorite bands I listened to daily almost like just going oh yeah, this band
are fucking brilliant. And this sort of step by step improvement that they made
from album to album on these first three lead into like a genuine classic album.
Like it's just brilliant, and I like and just how good Crisis is
when you actually break it down and like look at that track list and go
song by a song and be like every song fucking ridiculous. Yeah, really
good time. It's funny, you're talking about the kind of voyage of discovery
thing that's you know, that's not me with Alex on Fire in terms of
like, you know, particularly by the time we've reached the end of that
special wh we're talking about Crisis, that's now my love very much. Yeah,
but I guess I'm slightly more on that end and you know, really
self titled, like you know, you're really getting into, you know,
the the details of a record like Crisis, in a record like watch Out,
but a record that you know, they what is it that makes them
classics? You know, not just oh these are big choruses, this is
a really stacked track list, but the the how a record like Crisis works,
the mood of it, the thematics of it, the kind of the
overall usion of it, interplay between the different members, the music, the
vocalists, like all these elements are sort of slotting together, like refining it
after like each album, just refining that vocalist balance a little bit more and
just it just coming together like perfectly for Crisis. Yeah, and so you
know, getting inside that again, We've got another part to go, but
I think, you know, by the time we reach the end of that,
I am kind of being gonna end up going like, uh, are
alex on Fire like the best post hardcore band? I don't know, like
it's it's certainly an argument that we are going to consider over the course of
these specials because that is the level of band that we are talking about in
that regard. So if you want to hear our first, like you know,
two to three hours of us talking about the first part of the lex
on Fire's career, then you can find that at Patron dot com slash That's
Not Metal. I was going to announce the album clubs in this episode because
it was gonna be the review show. I guess should I do that?
Yeah, you had one earlier. I'll give you a hint of what one
is. We'll be back next week when we will tell you all of what's
going on there as well, but that will also, of course be Patron
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very much for everyone who chooses to do so. And finally, for this
hyperblasts, we've got releases for the week. I think for me there are
certainly there is. There is one release I really think you should be definitely
checking out. But there's you know what that is, don't we pair?
We know exactly. Yeah, it's great. There is not life for everyone
this week, regardless of what your one release might end up being. Even
if you are an Idols fan, there might be something for you specifically there
is because Idles have an album out. It's called Tank. It's I'm saying
Tank. I don't think I've put this in incorrectly. It's t like tang
with a K on the end. I don't know what that means. There's
probably some concept about like peace and love and forgiveness or something. But you
know, Idols they've got there how many records of Idol's got now, it's
just like five or six they've been churning them out. I think it's five
because they cruel after Ultra Mono, unless there's than another one between it.
It's mad that we don't know how many records Idols have. They really they
feel like they've started tune out after Ultra Mono just like, yeah, that
was it wasn't it? Like, because they're still a big band and they're
still playing sizeable venues, So I can't say that they've dropped off or anything.
I guess it's people have made their minds up about whether they're like in
or not. Yeah, but it is bizarre the Idols, like you know,
Circle could it move for them and draw of the Act of Resistance,
like yeah, like twenty eighteen or whatever. But they were like, you
know, the saviors of rock, and now they're just kind of like,
oh yeah, Idols are just a band that continue to exist. It is
quite quite bizarre in that regard. Blackberish Smoke are also about who continue to
exist. They've got their record be right here, there are your two records.
I suppose if you're looking at like all rock's gonna make a dent in
the album charts or that kind of thing. We do have. As mentioned,
Laura Jane Grace has got her solo album Hole in my Head. I
don't know how many Solar Amsas is from Laura Jane Grace at this point.
It's a third album and there was like an ep as We're all like mini
album. I like what I've heard of this one. Yeah, I was
gonna say, like Laura Jane Grace, we joked several times that like,
yeah, obviously you are going to like this, but also there's a certain
degree of like, so do against me exist as they? So they haven't
existed since twenty eighteen I think it was, yeah, twenty nine, but
like it was it was was COVID. Pandemic did an interview quite recently and
the band fell apart over COVID. They were going to studios recording album and
it went to shit and they haven't talked to each other until like this year.
Again. Yeah, but basically, you know with this particular Laura Jane
Grace album, is that you know you'll have looked into it more than myself.
Is there a particular sort of angle or story to this one? Like
how? Because again total transparency. As a non fan, I look at
this and go like, oh, another Laura Jane Gray solo album. I
bet it's a bunch of acoustic songs that will sound the same to me.
I don't care, But is there like what what's at the angle? I
guess with this specific album from the songs I've heard, not acoustic songs like
that. Like again, she's kind of writing in the sort of sub two
minute like condense it down into like a short burst as possible, but it
is this feels a bit more full band as I said abou angler some of
what she's done before, So I don't know who else is playing on it,
but there is more of a like unit there rather than just Laura by
herself. It feels kind of like the I've just excised all my demons over
the last few years, and like she's been in a better place and all
that, like really good interviews did I come of all the deals with it?
But it was for Rolling Stone a couple of weeks ago, well worth
a read for kind of like the story behind this, But yeah, this
sort of feels like that maybe the sort of closing chapter of the sort of
solo years as she's kind of hinted that, like maybe against Me can start
functioning again. So yeah, maybe, and you can hear that unfolding on
her record Hole in My Head is Shan and his self titled record may or
may not have been the record that I was actually referring to. We're going
to talk about that fully in depth when we do a review show. It
is a monolithic thing. It is a if you've ever wanted to if you've
ever wanted to get into Issa, you might as well fucking you know,
strap your diving helmet on and just go right in with this absolute maniac of
a thing. It is very very cool. Indeed, Bokassa have a new
album, All Out of Dreams as a band profiler on Sharp Tone Records.
Who least record a digital nowhere again. I put this in because again like
bad like Sharp Tone Records and stuff that's kind of on the up a little
bit. I was checking this out. It's sort of a to me,
it sounded quite weak. It's sort of like a new Metali metal core type
thing. Not really you know, a lot going on there, but maybe
you will find something over there. We have a band called Shooting Daggers,
which is called the records Love and Rage. I was thinking Sam that this
cool band. Yeah, there's one that you probably want to check out.
It's kind of a you know, sort of a I believe London based come.
I saw them open for Scowl a couple of months ago. Just kind
of really rowdy, feminist, hardcore punk, really cool band. Yes,
we also have Gallo with a A V where the A is twin flames.
That's a kind of you know, gothys synth wave type, you know,
that kind of deal. The Obsessed legendary you doom you know blues outfit their
record Gilded Sorrow. There is a record called Praise Sorry from a band called
Praise the Plague. The record is called Suffocating the Current of Time that is
really sludgy black metal. If you like your black metal to just sound like
you are at the bottom of a pit of tar, just absolutely, you
know, if you like things like Thou and whatnot and want a bit of
kind of you know, necro in there as well, then you can go
and find that record if you want to get really spacely a neckro. Dark
Space are back with a record called dark Space Minus two, which is not
to be confused with the record dark Space two that they release many a year
ago. I don't know what is going on with that band's numbering system,
but it's something like the fifth or sixth dark Space record where maybe they've met
in the middle and they're going backwards. I don't know. I don't know
if the means it's more ambient or whatever, but yeah, more dark Space
and if you want some just horrible death metal as a band called pest Length,
which I thought, we're really like, we are getting every you know,
conglomeration of like words in death metal that you can put together and rhyme
with things and change whatever. Pest Length their record Solar Chlorx. There you
go. That's your release for this week. Thank you very much for being
with us. Apologies for not being here with the reviews bag, but we
will be back with that next week when we are going to talk about the
Chelsea Wolf album from you know last week, I believe the e Sound album
that we just mentioned records from Alkaline Tria. We're going to come back to
that one job for a cowboy spectral voice. There's some fucking big it's a
really really again I've done on my listening everything. It's a great fucking reviews
bag, I must say. So we are going to tell you all about
those records next time. Patroon dot com. Slash That's non Metal is where
you can find our currently Alex on Fire special which will conclude fairly soon.
We'll have the album Clubs that I will announce next week as well. Going
over there, so cheers very much for being with us. We will see
you for all of that next time. Bye bye,