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You have this anti movement. What
we are seeing is a revolution against the

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system. So fixing the present system
is not enough. Now it is,

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of course a anti system, just
called the Bocalianism, which means to tear

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down everything which creates some kind of
influence of government into private lives. It's

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the mantling the system. And we
see certain elements of sis now in the

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new US administration. We are on
the edge of complete financial clouds. Cloud

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Schwab, the founding Father, wants
you done nothing and be happy there,

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Lisa, have a very sinister plan
to control you and your money. Join

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us today. Is Gide, host
of one of the biggest podcasts in history,

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and author, comedian, leading expert
and research of Hollywood and the economic

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elite with the TV show Hollywood Decoded. Jane, Let's dive into the pit

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of evil that is the Builderberg Group, the Rothschilds, the World Economic Forum,

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the Fed, Klau, Schwab and
Larry Fink. But in the context

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of predictive programming, misinformation, the
financial collapse unfolding, what is going on

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with the recent elitist meetings that have
been happening around the world. Yeah,

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Well, predicted programming is an interesting
angle to come at that with, because

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if you don't know what that is, that's the idea that a lot of

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fiction, a lot of movies,
a lot of you know, even perhaps

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music at times that it conditions the
public. And so we've been indoctrineeded.

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We've been subjected to pretty sophisticated levels
and types of propaganda, everything from subliminals

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to you know, predictive elements within
the fiction that kind of prepares and conditions

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us for the world that the technocratic
elig want to roll out. So a

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classic example of this would be somebody
like H. G. Wells. We

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go back to his writings The New
World Order, other books that he wrote,

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even particularly the nonfiction, not so
much the fiction, even though that

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has a predictive element too. HG. Wells was saying that we're going to

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have this technocratic world order that rolls
out. It's a socialistic technocratic order,

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Fabian socialism, et cetera. But
he said that the way that we really

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need to reach the public is through
the propaganda the t in fiction. So

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he wrote a lot of books,
were of the Worlds, Island of Doctor

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Moreau, and many others that were
all about this future scientific dictatorship, a

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kind of a scientism is basically a
religion to these people. So they want

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to roll that out right and then
conditioning everybody too, basically accepting it at

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some future point. So the fascinting
thing about out Wells is that what you

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read in H. G. Wells
back in the thirties, what you read

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in Bertrand Russell back in the twenties, thirties and forties, it's the exact

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same thing that Klaus puts into his
books today. So when we read Fourth

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Industrial Revolution by Klaus, which I've
lectured through, we find out, hey,

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he's saying the exact same thing that
one hundred years or earlier Wells and

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Russell said. So we know that
it is an actual plan that's rolled out.

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And I think these yearly meetings that
we see like the World Government seven

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A Summit or World Economic Form Davos, these are really just kind of public

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unveilings. They're coming out of the
clauset. So it be telling us what

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they really think and what they really
want and what has actually been planned for

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a really long time, and that
is again, to have a single world

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currency, a single world religion,
a single world government, a single order

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that everyone else submits to, and
then whatever is useful to get people into

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that order is the thing that they
do. So they're not necessarily committed to

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one single ideaology like classical Marxism or
something like that. They'll utilize, as

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hgu Well says, monopoly, capitalism, socialism, Marxism, fascism, anything

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that seems to work at the time
to their ends. They'll use those to

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get to the final stage, which
is ultimately kind of a massy population,

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as the world that I inform itself
says in their videos drastically reducing the population.

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And other elite writers that I talk
about too, like Jacques Attiali in

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his book Brief History of the Future. He's known as the Kissinger of France.

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Attily says that we're going to create
a global brain. We're going to

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depopulate. Everybody's gonna be hooked in
the matrix, and that's how we'll all

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be in com pods and we'll all
be controlled in that way. So whether

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it's Klaus, whether it's Jacquettilli,
or whether it's a hundred year ago,

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it's the same plan and the origins
of this you mentioned Bilderberg, Yeah,

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I mean Klaus comes out of the
history being in this big steering committee group

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kind of created by the Rockefellers and
Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands back in the

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middle of the the last century.
This was a post Cold War idea.

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Excuse me, After World War Two. They came up with the idea to

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create these steering committees kind of modeled
on the Roundtable groups of England, modeled

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on which are modeled on, which
results in the councilor Foreign Relations and the

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Trilateral Commission. And so those are
the people who found Klaus and said,

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hey, let's give this guy a
committee. Let's put him over here.

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No, literally, that's what happened
like that. It's called the Harvard Research

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Project. And this was a Kissinger
idea to put Klaus and other people in

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just another one of many many steering
committee you know in geo type groups.

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That's absolutely crazy. So they've started
this plan like one hundred years ago,

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and we're having all these public meetings. Now are they closer to their objective?

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Claud Schwub talks about twenty thirty being
a key date things ramping up.

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We'll dive into bitcoin and stuff shortly, because you talked about one world currency.

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But are they getting a little bit
more confident and is that why we're

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seeing them on the main stage and
they're sort of prepping us for what they

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think will happen by twenty thirty,
or they haven't been successful up until now,

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and it may take them a whole
lot longer to roll this out than

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they would like. I think there's
two things going on. On the one

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hand, they think that they've been
successful in a lot of their designs and

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a lot of their agendas, so
globalization is a big part of this.

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They think that they've made tremendous strides
in that arena through World War one,

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World War two, in the Cold
War. This is really the thesis of

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a doctor Carroll Quigley's book, Tragy
and Hope, which I've lectured through.

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This really explains the purpose of the
two world wars and the Cold War was

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really to try to eventually get us
to this one world order that they want

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to see. Now, there's a
lot of roadblocks still in the way that

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they haven't gotten over yet. Some
of those would be currency, some of

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those would be the maintenance of nation
states that still exists that they haven't completely

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destroyed yet, and one of those
courses, the United States and then the

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Western ideas in general, rule by
law, these kinds of things have to

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be gotten rid of. Other things
stand in a way, like religion that

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they talk about quite often too.
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of world religion, and so any
remaining religious traditions have to be kind of

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diluted and destroyed. That's another big
part of the puzzle that that they overlook,

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you know, things that stand in
the way, like having international committees

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that can bypass you know, national
governments in terms of health laws. That's

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another big thing. That's a huge
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being brought to the fore in the
last three years of the koof crisis.

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Really have these you know, these
international bodies with actual authority, and

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they've been trying to put these international
bodies into place for a long time.

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After World War One, it was
the League of Nations. Quickly says that

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failed, and so we had World
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The United Nations has never never really
had a lot of force behind it.

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So I think they'd like to get
to a stage where some international body does

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have an actual, you know,
standing army and force behind it to enforce

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their decisions. So that's the long
plan. And you mentioned I'm glad you

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mentioned twenty thirty. They actually have
actuaries for twenty thirty twenty twenty fifty,

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and this is in all their writings. So atally, as I mentioned,

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he talked about what they want by
twenty forty twenty fifty. You know Klaus

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and his videos that they that they
put out a few years ago that went

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viral, which they subsequently took down. By the way, I don't know

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why they would want to put it
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that video out. You know,
the eight things to expect by twenty thirty

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according to the WEF, and it
was the United States will lose its place

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in terms of Western dominance. You'll
eat a lot less meat aka zuboges.

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There will be a movement towards a
greater multipolarity, which in their terminology,

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they don't mean it in the same
way that you know Putin or Eurasian do,

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you'll political leaders mean They mean it
in the sense of a one world

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government that has like decreased America's standing
in the world order. So it goes

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on to talk about more open borders, it talks about greater centralized control,

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less of a market economy that we
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order will bring your food, your
underwear or whatever. They talk about a

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circular economy. That's another big thing. This is just kind of a classic

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communist idea that I'm gonna, you
know, share my whitey tidies with all

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the people in my neighborhood. I'm
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You don't need your own care of
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underwear in the neighborhood. So literally, that's what they say. You to

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Alcinsho's a big World Economic Forum circular
economy theorist, and that's what they say.

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Everything will be shared. Want you'll
own nothing, you'll have nothing to

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be happy, et cetera. So
that's where they want to take us.

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The things that stand in the way
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the way, religion stands in the
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is a problem, and that's why
we find people talking about cryptocurrencies from the

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World Economic Forum. They're always wanting
something that's completely centralized. So any of

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the decentralized protocols or cryptos. They
don't. It's not really useful to them,

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and particularly you know, Bigcoin of
course is the king of crypto,

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the true ethical money, and so
no, they don't like that at all.

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I wasn't going to take the conversation
here straight away, but we may

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as well dive into bitcoin. Larry
Finks obviously entered the race with the ATS

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and they've been acquiring minors for many, many years. Is there a sinister

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agenda here with Blackrock potentially, or
are they just here for the number go

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up and turn fees as people by
the ETF and they're just happy to hold

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the bitcoin in behalf of investors or
does this tie in with Blackrock the way

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everyone else. Yeah, there's a
lot of speculation there. I don't know

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exactly what their motivations are. I
think my suspicion would be that it's beyond

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just making profits or looking for gains. I think that if you look at

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the what what they propose with their
various regulations of the DEI, all that

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kind of stuff, that to me
suggests that no, it is more about

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social control. And we have interviews
with Larry Fink talking about you know,

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we're gonna make you act right,
you know this kind of stuff. We're

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gonna put this down your throat.
So that to me suggests no more of

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an agenda than just you know,
getting gains. So what exactly the plans

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are in terms of what they acquire
in the short term, I don't know,

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but my guess would be that they
would like to have as much influence

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as possible. I mean, even
if they bought as much as they could,

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I mean, I don't I mean, I don't know that they could

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even dump everything that they bought in
one day to destroy I mean, that's

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the theories that people come up with, is, oh, they're going to

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buy all this and they're gonna dump
it destroy But I don't think that would

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destroy bitcoin. I don't see how
that would would happen. I mean,

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I'm not like a tech guru master, I don't know a lot of this

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stuff in terms of the logistics of
it. But it doesn't seem probable to

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me that that would be the way
that you could try to destroy bitcoin.

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But maybe that that is an end
goal. Yeah, I feel like the

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most likely if they were to do
something would be to hard fork it.

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But people that are holding the original
Bitcoin end up with Bitcoin and the new

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fork anyway, so it's probably not
the worst thing. I think it's more

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just about the control potentially for people
that are holding those e TIFs. But

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I guess we'll see how it plays
out. Klaub Schwab talks about cyber attacks.

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Obviously, bitcoin lives in cyberspace.
I've know you've gone into conversations talking

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about EMPs and the like. What's
so they're like training for cyber attacks.

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They did this before the Pan demic
in regards to viruses, and then the

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virus came out a couple of months
later. Now they're talking about cyber attacks.

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We've got the US elections this year, they're talking about disease X and

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cyber polygon as well. How's all
this tie in, I guess into the

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potential year he cast twenty twenty four. Yeah, this question gets ask a

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lot. I don't actually know how
real one MP attack would be in the

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sense of, I mean, you'd
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the entire continental United States or North
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don't think there's one GoldenEye e m
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you know, the Pierce Brosen and
James Bond GoldenEye that's about an EMP attack,

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and the idea is that there's a
you know, satellite thing that corresponds

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with the ground based terminal that can
you know, destroy one entire continent's electrical

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capabilities. I mean, I don't
think that exists. That's more James Bond

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level stuff. So how real and
how effective that would be, I don't

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know. But even in the case
of a scenario where we did go back

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to like eighteen hundred's era stuff where
let's say for a time period the internet

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went down or the power grid went
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in a certain region, it wouldn't
be everywhere. And also they didn't spend

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all this time and effort putting the
tech grid into place to shut it down,

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right. I mean, Class makes
a big point in the last third

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of his book, Fourth and Dual
Revolution talking about the sky knit grid and

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the Internet of things. Well,
you can't have the Internet of things if

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you try to destroy everything and take
us back to the little house on the

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prairie. But so I think that
if there was that kind of a scenario,

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it would be a limited time where
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of regionalized warfare to shut down a
country's electrical capabilities, it would eventually come

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back. So, you know,
bitcoin is it's like, you know,

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like the old boom Er joke about
you know, is the bitcoin? Is

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my email still there if my computer's
off? Right? I mean it doesn't.

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Bitcoin's not going anywhere, even if
the if the Internet in a certain

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region went down, right, So
we're talking about a globally decentralized you know,

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ten thousand hubs or whatever are supposed
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ledger for bitcoins. Even if the
Internet went down. You know, it's

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not going away. But I think
the danger would be the crises that they

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want to try to utilize or cause
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to move us into trying to accept
something like UBI fed coin, something like

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this like, oh, you know, America's economy collapses. Oh well,

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you know, log on here and
get your you know, government wallet,

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Get get Biden bucks, right,
download some Biden bucks from your fed coin,

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you know, wall or whatever.
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sort of an enticement to try to
lure people into a UBI we know Zuckerberg

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all these people have talked about how
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some sort of you know, Facebook
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don't think that will work. Those
plans always fail in history, but they

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might cause a lot of damage trying
to try to push it through. Yeah,

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do you see that as the most
likely Like bitcoin came out, I

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think they ignored it for so long. It built up a pretty large user

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base in the market cap, and
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just wake up one day and like, oh, this thing is here.

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Are they panicking because of bitcoin?
Has that pushed them to advance their gender

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and CBDCs and the like of that, And are they just going to continue

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with the fud campaign against bitcoin?
Like they can't stop it now. They

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can close the on ramps onto it
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people are just going to go to
where they're money is welcome. But how

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the sab A says come into the
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I think you're absolutely right there.
The idea is, Okay, we can't

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stop this now. A lot of
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like they think of it as I
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it's this thing that terrorists do.
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fud from ten years ago about bitcoin, but they have realized I think,

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like you said, Tradfi has realized, Okay, we can't stop this.

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that they feel like they can't stop, is well, now we've got to

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buy into it and control it and
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move they're going for. I don't
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I think you're only really that's only
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to the idea of bitcoin. And
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to do this already, I think, is to figure out ways to offer

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some other thing. But they don't. They still understand the superiority here what

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we have with the hardest money ever
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their their old scams are not really
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think, right, because the old
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any kind of new uh, you
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It's it's just going to be a
an electronic version of FIAT where they

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can say, oh, well,
you know, we'll just put some more

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zeros in there in the in the
government computers and you'll have more fed coin,

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you see. So they'll try the
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currencies, but that's not gonna work. That's going to fail, just as

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hard as you know Fiat fella reserve
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think that they're going to look for
any kind of cunning, perceptive motivations to

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try to sell people on some other
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empty fed coin. Yeah. I
saw a video this morning at six in

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the morning here but when I wake
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A C B and she's talking about
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the same talking points for a long
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to people, and in their marketing
material this lady's speaking, she's like,

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there'll be a limit basically on the
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wallet, which sounds like they're limiting
people savings, Like that doesn't sound like

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a good thing, but they're trying
to sell this as a good thing for

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consumer protection. I'd like to get
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want to totally flip gears down another
rabbit hole. J Yeah, that's exactly

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what the head of the BIS said. He came out in the video,

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or one of the spokespeople, that
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old, gigantic dude, came out
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it's going to be great because it's
a centralized wallet. This was his

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selling point. I kid you not
whereby we will control and watch all of

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your transactions. I don't know why
that would be. He literally thought that

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would be a stub. Maybe he
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to other global elitists, right,
like, oh yeah, that is a

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great selling point. Nobody's gonna buy
that. That's gonna be ridiculous. It's

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going to fail unless they make everybody
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I mean, that's you know,
that's part of the the dumbing down

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and all that. But yeah,
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competitor to what is offered through you
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see how they're going to have any
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the b I S guy has exact
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currencies, and so they're just behind. Right, So they're like, Okay,

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this was way ahead of time.
We can't stop it. Well quick,

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let's come up with some kind of
system. Yeah, and they don't

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even realize that it's not even going
to be able to compete. Yeah.

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I guess the biggest tikeway for everyone
is stack sets and absolutely shell. You've

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gone down some crazy rabbit holes.
Jail link your I already have linked your

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Twitter below as well as your YouTube
channel. I had this discussion as a

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heated debate with my wife yesterday that
they them whoever we call that. I'd

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like you to explain who you think
they are trying to ban books, probably

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number one. And then you said
something saying aliens for psychological warfare and how

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this ties in with Bill Gates and
mosquitoes if you can wait, wait,

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go back a little bit, because
you're Australian threw me off. Comedian in

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the house, a funny man everyone. You can check out Jay's live show.

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He's an absolute who banning banning books? Who would I am trying to

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What type of books are I trying
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day. Yeah, this was interesting
because it reminded me of certain passages in

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Bertin Russell in particularly Impact of Science
on Society, which he wrote in nineteen

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fifty or fifty one. In that
book, he I mean, he's famously

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right technocratic socialists, fabian socialists,
et cetera. He wrote that in the

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technocratic world order, you won't be
reading Shakespeare, the Bible books. You'll

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be banned. He says that only
government approved individuals will have the ability to

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go and even look at Shakespeare or
the Bible whatever. What. Yeah,

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I shared that on my Twitter so
you can see. You can see the

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page from Bertin Russell where he says
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you remember in nineteen eighty four when
Orwell is writing about you know how you

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can't read any of that literature,
or if you read Bradbury's Fahrenheit four fifteen

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one, I mean, particularly in
Orbell's case, Ingsock is in the novel,

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it stands for English socialism he's talking
about the Fabian Socialist Society and their

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future plan. So we saw recently
a year ago I think was some of

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the first calls to ban particularly James
Bond, and this was out of the

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UK. It's always out of the
UK first and then it kind of spills

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out elsewhere, but the ban was
at that point. Oh, you know,

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Ian Fleming's literature has racial stereotypes,
etc. This kind of stuff.

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We've seen US based education groups and
committees call for the banning of things like

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Mark Twain because of the terminologies that
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And then we saw more recently another
call out of a UK based hate monitoring

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group, which is just another one
of these you know geo's tried to Yeah,

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I mean that they try to control
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they consult government and put out these
warnings and say, well, now

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Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, now
what else is in there? Or Well's

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nineteen eighty four and oddly enough Brave
New World, which I mean, I

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guess they were too stupid to realize
that all the sucks actually believes in their

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positions. So but they just assume
that because it's a novel about the dystopia

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that therefore it must be it's a
doorway to far right extremism, is what

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they call it. So basically,
anything that tells the truth or warrants about

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centralized you know, tyranny is now
a radicalizing you know, gateway drug basically,

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is what they they So it needs
to be banned. But they've been

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calling for this banning for a long
time. And it's not just the you

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know, literature that might be considered
gateway drug to right wing I mean they've

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been calling for the banning of movies
now which have you know, jokes about

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gay people or whatever, or races. All of that's now some sort of

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violation of a moral code, which
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anyways, there's no objective morality according
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to ban all these things because they
are immoral. It's crazy. And they're

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even re editing Roll Dahl's books as
well children's books. I forgot that great

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example. Yeah, Like, isn't
that insane? Like on my show,

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every single day, I say,
read the books or read the bugs.

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It is so important. Before we
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You're telling me how you got into
reading and stuff, and man,

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it's a superpower. It is so
important to be able to literally read the

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books understand what's going on. People
will spend their whole lives accumulating wealth,

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knowledge and condensing it down into something
that's that thick Bitcoin evangelism. It's a

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great book, but whatever book it
is, and for somebody to have the

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audacity to take a book away,
it's absolutely insane, Like it's the maddest

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world there ever is. So I
definitely urge everyone to buy hard copies of

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books and storm and it makes absolutely
no sense reading. It's probably one of

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the greatest things in the world.
So something that you brought up way off

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topic, but aliens for psychological warfare. We saw whatever happened in Miami.

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You could probably talk about it a
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saw the sketchy twitter picks looks like
a total sile that is happening, Like

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aliens, Man, what's going on
here. It's funny because the supposed alien

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landing from a few months ago was
like New Mexico and or were our Arizona

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and there was a cholo dude calling
in a man. We got like we

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got like some afodes out in the
yard or whatever, like you better send

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some cops. And then and then
now they're visiting our African American friends and

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in Miami, and the brothers are
basically just running. So it's like two

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different attitudes, right, I'm joking, But those are the two, you

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know, most recent alien visitation stories. But both of these events, to

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me are are pretty laughable. Not
to say that I know everything what's about

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what's going on in these events,
but yeah, I did a lot of

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research on this many years ago.
I think everybody who first kind of wakes

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up to conspiracy rabbit hole stuff you
do, typically have a face of thinking,

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well, maybe aliens exist, you
know. I'll look at this and

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I remember first thinking maybe aliens exist
in two thousand and five or six,

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and but I never found it convincing. And the more that I read it,

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I read a lot of the alien
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and these different people. And then
I read more about psychological warfare, and

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I think the first thing I watched
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views on the subject was there's a
great documentary called Mirage Men and Osman is

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an interview with a lot of people
from counterintelligence and disinformation operations from the Air

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Force, and they talk about how
in certain cases they were using the alien

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myth to engage in basically deflection and
misinformation on purpose. It's everybody to watch

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that documentary first. And then I
had some friends of Collins brothers who are

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twin brothers that wrote really massive book
on the history of UFO alien stuff as

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psychological warfare operations, and so their
thesis is basically that it's it's a way

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for the establishment to give everybody a
replacement narrative now that the biblical narrative,

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the history of you know, Western
religious traditions are breaking down so by design,

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so they want to give it,
give a new mythos which they control

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and which fits into the technocratic agenda. So I don't think that the New

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World Order has to use the alien
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accept the belief in aliens and whatnot, they won't go with that, They'll

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go with something else. But I
think it's one of the potential religious tools,

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religious engineering tools that they are experimenting
with and that they're trying to use.

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And that's why we see from the
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intimate relationships between the Pentagon the military
is particularly the CIA and the alien

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phenomenon. I mean, for example, the first famous abductee, Georgia Damski

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history later came out as exposed as
basically being cribbed from some goofy sci fi

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novel at the time. Yeah,
and it just happened to be like,

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oh, I was taken up on
a Venusian ship and they had giant titties

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like Marilyn Monroe, and it's like, Okay, this story doesn't sound very

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plausible. But why would Alan Dulles, CIA director threaten anybody who would question

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Georgia Damski with a lawsuit? So
we have the head of the CIA basically

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running point for this, you know, goofy, goofball character who ended up

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in a bunch of weird cults and
into a bunch of esoterica, you know,

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alchemy and whatnot. To me that
suggests and the Collins Brothers highlight this

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in their book Invoking the Beyond,
you know, again very shady deep state

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involvement. We have Rand Corporation papers
from the same time period discussing the effects

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of this idea In my second book, I put a white Brookings Institute paper,

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which is one of the premier thing
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for NASA in the late sixties explaining
how the UFO alien phenomena would have a

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tremendous effect on the Western psyche if
it was revealed, and then it would

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destroy Christianity basically. So we know
that they have this mindset of studying the

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phenomena from its social engineering effects,
and I think that's a much more plausible

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explanation than anything that is put forward
as this really flimsy, blurry evidence of

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00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.799
this or that dot floating around in
it, you know, from nineteen sixties

406
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.319
level camera technology. It's just it's
just ludicrous. I mean, we've not

407
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.559
seen anything substantial. And again,
maybe maybe there is some you know,

408
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.200
non human life form that we just
have or cryptid or something like that,

409
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.519
like a chupa cabra like. Maybe
we just haven't seen it yet or discovered

410
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.119
it yet until now. That's possible. But even if there is some new

411
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.680
cup of cabra like, that doesn't
prove that it's an alien life form from

412
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.440
the Pleiades, right, I mean, that's another non sequit or maybe it's

413
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.119
just a cryptid that's based on Earth
that we haven't discovered yet. Or maybe

414
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.359
it's a phenomena that we don't understand
yet, so we don't there's all these

415
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:51.240
leaps that are made, right like, because we can't explain it. Therefore

416
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.119
aliens from another planet? Right?
Yeah? Well, I spend seven years

417
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.079
in the Great Barrier reef diving and
cattlefish. Do you know what a cuttlefish

418
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.599
is? They like, they sort
of look like a squid. But that

419
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.480
doesn't seem plausible to me. So
again, it was a dumb joke.

420
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:13.559
I said, Did you get hired? That seems implausible. No, it's

421
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.160
a dad joke. Sorry, go
ahead, you were diving for seven years?

422
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.319
Yeah, make sure you joined Jay
Dyer's comedy show Ladies and Gentlemen.

423
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.680
Good show. Now he's again questioning
whether it's even comedy. Yeah, no,

424
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.519
my wife likes marine creatures. That's
the only way that I know what

425
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.920
a cuddlefish. They change shape and
color, and if you move your fingers

426
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.599
or whatever, they will change their
thing. They're crazy. Man. If

427
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.759
there's aliens on planet Earth, the
cuttlefish are the aliens. These things are

428
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:51.359
so intelligent, they're as smart as
an OCTOPI and they look at you directly

429
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.079
and they'll mimic you, and they
just crazy man without having any narcotics.

430
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.519
That looks like a psychedelic trip watching
them when you're you're present with them.

431
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:04.640
So what's the go on YouTube?
It's a big YouTube channel. Slap han

432
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:12.079
No, I'll check it out.
You're reminding me of slaptown. He's always

433
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.759
talking about crypt He's like, he's
like, today we're going to be looking

434
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.680
at some cryptis here, hello,
and tell me you think this as a

435
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.319
real crypto. And so I feel
like now that we're on this topic,

436
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.960
I feel like I'm talking to flaptown. I'm just you're doing good with your

437
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.480
assie accent to tight to title together, otherwise we're going to go into some

438
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:39.440
crazy journeys. The US it's getting
totally out of control. Is this a

439
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.440
large, last ditch effort by the
contillionaires to print as much money as they

440
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.920
can currency as they can. It's
no longer money, get all the hard

441
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.640
assets, remove the middle class,
put everyone into the lower class end up

442
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.519
with the hardest assets. As we
get to the final straw of collapsing the

443
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.440
financial system or why of ice?
Is it speculation, what are your thoughts

444
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.839
on that? And then I guess
wrap that up with how, in your

445
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:13.920
opinion, bitcoin may be a solution
for you. Yeah, my good friend

446
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:19.760
is Colonel Douglas McGregor's son, Cameron
McGregor. If you've watched a lot of

447
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.960
the interviews that Tucker's done with Colonel
Douglas McGregor, you'll know that. If

448
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.400
you go to my channel you can
see Cameron and I have done some interviews

449
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:31.679
and his focus is really on the
economy, economics and masculinity too. But

450
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.599
he does some really good in depth
dives into explaining how the guarantocracy that exists

451
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.760
in Washington again really is out of
touch. He's a big bitcoin proponent too.

452
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.880
He'd be a good guy to have
on your podcast if you're looking for

453
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.760
somebody. But his theory is that, yeah, that they've they've really gone

454
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:55.400
crazy and they've cooked the goose when
it comes to running this just insane Fiat

455
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.119
money system, and that there's not
really anything to to fix it with.

456
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.679
And we've seen multiple banks in the
last couple of years, you know,

457
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.159
going under. We've seen a lot
of the collapses, not just like FTX,

458
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.000
but in the actual you know,
hardcore trad fight banking sphere. So

459
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.280
he thinks that this is really just
the beginning of the end. Actually two

460
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:22.000
thousand and eight financial crisis was really
the initial trigger, but we're still feeling

461
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:27.840
the effects of that trigger that collapse. By the way, that's there's a

462
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:32.280
good close connection between jeff Stein mcgeffrey
in the two thousand and eight financial crisis

463
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.440
if people don't know, if you
read the Whitney WebBook. But that's a

464
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.920
different rabbit hole. But yeah,
I think that we're going to see more

465
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.519
and more of these banks going under. We're going to see more and more

466
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.960
even if Trump gets in. I
mean, there's really, you know,

467
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:52.119
limited things that Trump could do with
what Bobo has done to the economy with

468
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.639
with his insane inflation numbers, and
I could I mean, as somebody living

469
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.239
in the US, I can tell
you that, like whatever the government tells

470
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:06.039
you about their inflations that is totally
not true. Yeah, I mean it's

471
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:07.559
like North Korea level, Like they'll
just lie and be like, oh,

472
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.199
it's the greatest economy ever. A
three percent inflation. It's like, no,

473
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.920
dude, Like eggs cost like three
times what they call you know,

474
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.000
when Trump was president. Right,
they literally changed own I measured a CPI

475
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.039
there you go. Yeah, it's
just just lies. Lies. So I

476
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.159
think that that's going to get worse. I don't see any way to fix

477
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:31.079
that. Cameron thinks that there will
probably be some kind of a major economic

478
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:37.320
crisis in the next year or two. That seems very likely. How that

479
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.840
exactly exactly that would flesh out,
I don't know, but yeah, I

480
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.880
don't think there's any hard fixed.
People always talk about gold, and I

481
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.239
think, I mean, there might
be some pros to gold, but I

482
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.400
don't think the Internet is going away, and you know, there's so many

483
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:55.360
limitations to gold. There's so many
problems with gold that in an information age,

484
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.000
bitcoin just makes way more sense than
gold. Gold is also kind of

485
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.000
boring in this sense, like it
what gains do we really get in gold?

486
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.159
Not a lot, right, I
mean, So if you're looking for

487
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.239
a way to you know, allogate
some of your money I'm not giving financial

488
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.800
life, then you probably do want
something like bitcoin at least part of your

489
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.639
I mean my view is like it
makes absolutely perfect sense when you study it

490
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.559
and understand it. For people that
don't understand it, I would say,

491
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.559
just go watch a bunch of Michael
Saylor's lectures. He explains it very well

492
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.039
from an engineering perspective, maybe not
so much from a you know, people

493
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:34.280
think financial stuff and finance terms and
all this finance bros. It's kind of

494
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.920
like a bunch of wizardry that gets
people just you know, they're scared of

495
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.800
the words and the terms, the
math. But just go watch some basic

496
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:46.400
metaphysical philosophical explanations from an engineer.
I think he makes the most sense to

497
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:52.000
you know, reaching kind of common
sense, practical thinking guys particularly out there.

498
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.320
So so yeah, for me,
bitcoin makes perfect sense because it's it's

499
00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:02.559
got all of the qualities that government
currencies don't have, right, and it's

500
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.760
got the positive side of gold that
gold lacks. So it's ethical money.

501
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:14.679
It's hard money, hardest money.
It's decentralized. Uh, it's private and

502
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.199
public in a perfect way in terms
of the ledger, in terms of what

503
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.400
you hold. So I think it's
just an amazing genius invention that providentially solves

504
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:34.760
so many of mankind's economic problems over
the millennia. Because most economic problems revolve

505
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.679
around the ability of centralized powers to
manipulate the currency. It's just that simple.

506
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:45.880
So here we have a situation where
if you understand the philosophy of bigcoin,

507
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.079
and my training is as a philosophy
guy, then you understand that this

508
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.880
is really kind of like it's almost
like neoplatonic money. It's like a way

509
00:38:52.920 --> 00:39:00.320
to store energy over time. I
like that explanation from Michael Saylor without using

510
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:05.800
or without depleting that energy. And
really Fiat currencies centralized, uh you know,

511
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.679
made up currencies, they deplete energy
over time through through inflation, which

512
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.440
is really just theft. So it's
well, it is volatile, especially in

513
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.119
this early we're still early in this
early thaing, Yeah, it's volatile,

514
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:22.039
but yes, so what I mean
Fiat currencies are volatile. They always in

515
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.519
a volatile Yeah, we know,
we know what volatility that's going through.

516
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.719
So so yeah, I think we're
at an amazing inflection point, a juncture

517
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.199
where you can actually take worthless money
and put it into something that is not

518
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:42.119
worthless that will continue to have value, uh, perpetually, one hundred percent

519
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.440
agree. And even being Si Terra, everything on planet Earth and the solar

520
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.760
system is energy. Bitcoin's just stored
energy, you know, I see it

521
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:57.960
as title truth, being absolutely an
amazing conversation. I'd like to carry it

522
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.159
on, but where can people find
can you get more? What are some

523
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:07.079
of the things that you're up to. We'll put your books and the description

524
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.320
below after the live stream as well. So the Flora is yours man.

525
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.840
Thanks so much for coming on.
Thank you dude. Yeah, it was

526
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.679
a lot of fun. You can
find me under my name pretty much anywhere

527
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.960
that you know. There's social media
on Instagram, YouTube. I don't really

528
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.800
use Facebook, that's too boomer for
me. I hate it. But yeah,

529
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.320
you can find me on Twitter.
You can find me every Friday hosting

530
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.199
the fourth hour of the Alexi Jon't
show over at bandot video or Inforce dot

531
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.679
com. Also on x you can
get my books. I have two books

532
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.400
on philosophy. One of those philosophy
books is a big fat geopolitical text as

533
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.599
well. It's about six hundred pages. You can find that at my website

534
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.360
in the shop Jasonalsis dot com.
My wife has her books there as well,

535
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.719
in the Jason Elsis shop. And
then I have two books on Hollywood

536
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.280
estir Calliwood one Sir Colllywood two.
Those are also in the shop. And

537
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.239
working What am I working on?
I do a lot of debates, so

538
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.119
we just had a big debate.
I lecture through a lot of these big,

539
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.159
boring global elite books that you see
behind me. A lot of people

540
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.519
have time to read books like that, so we were, you know,

541
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.760
talking about the importance of reading.
So if you want to education in these

542
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.320
big, massive tones, I try
to give that to people in a breakdown,

543
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.639
ball down scenario at my website for
members. You can also find me

544
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.559
over on rockfin, which is a
great free speech based platform, and also

545
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.440
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547
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.920
that's Spain. Such a pleasure.
I'll put all your links below and

548
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.679
I'd love to have this conversation again. It's been absolutely fascinating. Thank you

549
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:46.000
dude. Yeah, anytime. Cheers
everyone, have beautiful day, be blessed peace,

