WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:05.799 Welcome to the Best Ever You Show with Elizabeth Hamilton Guarino. Here to help 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:10.519 you find success in all areas of your life. The power is in your 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.919 hands. Join our network for free at best ever u dot com. And 4 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:19.559 now here's Elizabeth. Hey, everybody, it's not just me Elizabeth, but 5 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.519 I'm sure it should be like And now here's Elizabeth with like awesome author Lisa 6 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.239 McCourt. Lisa, how are you today? Welcome. I'm wonderful, Elizabeth, 7 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.679 so happy to be with you. Yes, it's fine, it's great 8 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.719 to have you here. So I know you from your kids, your kids 9 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:40.079 books. So I'm a mom of four boys and they're now in their twenties. 10 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.960 They're twenty two, twenty four, twenty six, and eight and twenty 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.079 eight. So I know I love your Stinky Face really really, really well. 12 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:51.119 And so how I'm gonna just start there because I know our audience knows 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.920 that book. And then we're going to talk about Lisa's new book here in 14 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:59.560 a minute. It's called Free Your Joy, the Twelve Keys to Sustainable Happiness. 15 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.119 But Lisa, like, you're the author of I Love you Stinking Face. 16 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:08.280 I love that book. Thank you so much. Yeah, I was 17 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:15.000 really immersed in the world of personal development personal growth at that time, and 18 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.239 I just you know, as any of us who do this kind of work, 19 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:23.760 I know you have recognized this as well, Elizabeth. The core unworthiness 20 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.359 is just so vampant and so much the cause of all your limitations. And 21 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:33.920 that was just beginning to dawn for me, the prevalence of that in the 22 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:38.400 magnitude of core unworthiness. And that was my goal. I was pregnant with 23 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.200 my first child, and I said, I just want to write a book 24 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.439 that I can lead to my child and that other parents can lead to just 25 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.760 kind of nip the head in the bud, or at least try to set 26 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:51.560 a foundation of don't matter what you do, what you are, what happens, 27 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:57.079 you are inherently so lovable and perfect and beautiful and worthy. Well that 28 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:01.799 did it, didn't it? Nine millions some books later you sold. It's 29 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.560 pretty hard. And I don't know if you're I don't if you're aware of 30 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:10.280 the universe cosmic twist that occurred a bit later. But the baby that was 31 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:15.039 in my belly at that time is my beautiful and perfect transcender daughter. And 32 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.800 that led to a lot of work with the transcender community, and that book 33 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.000 has actually become a little bit of an emblem in the LGBTQ community. Kids 34 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.400 who were read that book as a child and now are finding that they've they've 35 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:32.960 found that limit to their parents unconditional love and support and it's it's really really 36 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:38.919 heartbeaking, but it's it's gifted amongst young adults these days for that that reason. 37 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.159 Good. I love hearing that. Thank you for sharing that with me, 38 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.719 because I always worry about people. I'm a I'm a worrier about of 39 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.639 people and their joy and their happiness and their love and their peace and their 40 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.599 being their best and acceptance and you know all those things that go with, 41 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:54.800 you know, helping people be their best. I'm a I'm a people worrior 42 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.719 like that, and I always it pains me when I hear stories otherwise when 43 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.719 font accepted and things like that, no matter who you are and where you 44 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:07.919 are, So yeah, well I so go ahead, No no, no, 45 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.400 I just like I feel your heart, I feel you, yes, 46 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.120 yeah, I feel yours too, and it comes through and you're free. 47 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.560 The Joy Book I was, it's just your book arrived to me like probably 48 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:22.199 about two days ago. So I started reading it and then I put it 49 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:24.639 down. I'm reading it again because it's it's meant kind of for a year 50 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:29.800 long journey for your joy. So I've done your half of your book in 51 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.240 two days. But what I'm doing through it is I'm I'm highlighting, and 52 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.960 I'm marking up, and I'm sticky noting and things like that. Places where 53 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.960 I want to go back and read and digest it more thoroughly and things like 54 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.599 that. So it's it's a really great book. I'm gonna just say it 55 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.759 again. It's Free your Joy, the twelve Keys to I'm going to get 56 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:54.960 this right to sustainable. It's happiness. And the publisher is HCI, the 57 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.080 distributor is Simon and Schuster. And the author of lisamc. Court. You 58 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:03.840 spell her name the last name mc capital c owe you rt and you can 59 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.039 go to our website, which is Lisamacort dot com. While we're talking or 60 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:13.439 whatever, and I was, I was really excited to hear all about joy. 61 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:18.920 It's one of my favorite favorite topics. And I want to know kind 62 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:25.720 of like why you wrote a book about joy. Yeah, it's always been 63 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.439 my date word. I know that's kind of weird, but I feel like 64 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.079 everybody recognizes that they want more joy. Like matter how much joy you have 65 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.879 us, they're like money or respect or power. Like we humans, we 66 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.920 just want more. We want more joy, more, more of this, 67 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.120 more of this. And so you know, if I had said, what 68 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.720 you really want is more alignment with your soul essence, you know, like 69 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.439 I don't think as many people would really buy you to like understanding that's what 70 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:58.759 they really want. So joy is the result of aligning with a part of 71 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.399 us that everything human being possesses. Is nobody walking around out there without one 72 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.879 right, it's your soul, is your spirit. If those terms are uncomfortable, 73 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:11.560 then it's just your higher self, your best you that you came in 74 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:15.319 here, the essence of you that you came into this human suit. As 75 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:21.759 and all of us along our journey in this human suit gather obstructions to experiencing 76 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.199 that aspect of us. Being able to align with it, it will being 77 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.879 able to sustainably keep it in the forefront of our existence. We want that 78 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.920 part of us to be driving the bus, and for most people, we've 79 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.480 been conditioned for it being like way way way in the backseat. If we 80 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:42.399 even acknowledge it's there, you know, so to me, joy has just 81 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:47.399 always been the natural, inevitable result of finding alignment with that part of you. 82 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.240 So that's why I use that word. Yea. So one of the 83 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:57.199 reasons why I write my books is kind of sometimes not always, but you 84 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.759 know, you kind of hope you leave them around your kids freedom or hear 85 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:01.720 your messaging, or you know, they've grown up with two so they hear 86 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.399 your messaging like mine were raised with like hashtag gratitude on the refrigerator and a 87 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:11.439 bunch of other sayings. But you know, is this a book for your 88 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.079 children to read? And remember? Is this a book for an older adult? 89 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.040 Yeah? I as I was reading, like you know, this is 90 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.360 from her heart to her kids, and everybody else just gets to kind of 91 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:28.279 come along for the ride. Yeah. My kids also have been brought up 92 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.920 with all of those and it's funny they both have interests but in different ways. 93 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:38.600 My all this daughter, my transgender daughter, has always been very metaphysically 94 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:43.279 oriented, very psychically gifted into crystals and things like morsel than than I am, 95 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.680 so she always completely related on that aspect. And my other daughter is 96 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:53.120 very pragmatic. She's you left doing her medical degree, she's not you know, 97 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:58.639 not really as interested in the woo woo end of things. But she's 98 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.319 been in my joy school. She loves the to be in the classes, 99 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.240 and she'll be the first one to read the book. And she's you know, 100 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:09.560 she's always been interested more from the psychology angle. So I appeal to 101 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:15.560 my children in different different parts of what I do, don't we all or 102 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:25.319 for not appealing moments? Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So let's see 103 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.240 where don't want to go with this. So if you hear me fumbling around 104 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.560 here, I've got papers in your book and all this stuff. So oh 105 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.040 I love you love that. Yeah, this is me. This is your 106 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.480 book rattling around in my hands. So we don't have you know, clean 107 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:41.160 perfect studio audio without you know, a book rattling around in my hands here. 108 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.600 So tell me, tell me about about the book and what you want. 109 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:48.480 Like if I'm going to go buy your book on Amazon or Bars and 110 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:54.600 Noble or Books a Million or wherever or those independent bookstores, what do you 111 00:07:54.639 --> 00:08:00.360 want me as the reader to do? Like, of course, read the 112 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.319 book, but what do you really want us to learn and do from reading 113 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.399 your books? Because it's time and energy to read a book Oh yeah, 114 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:13.399 for sure. So so what my guest, My best goal for the book 115 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.639 is that for somebody to actually pay attention to that title and want to buy 116 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.839 it, you know, that's that's like that shows that there's a crack and 117 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.360 opening of belief that we can create a more joyful, sustainable status quo for 118 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.799 ourselves and most people. It's been my experience that most people out there, 119 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:39.519 in the great out there don't have that belief, don't don't even really think 120 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.840 that it's possible to make some changes, change ups in habits and sustainably elevate 121 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.279 what I call your joy step point, your your day to day baseline for 122 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.039 how much joy and meaning and vibrancy you experience in your life. So for 123 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.960 somebody to be interested enough to have this book in their hands or on their 124 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:01.360 audio, I feel like then the just get the cobar in there, and 125 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.480 we just widen that belief, and we just get it stronger and stronger with 126 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.200 each page, with each chapter, with each week of practice. Because really, 127 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.559 the degree of which you believe you're in control of your joy, your 128 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.679 happiness is the exact degree to which you will be able to up level your 129 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.679 life. Yeah, we're always creating our whole existence based on our beliefs. 130 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.480 So that's really all it requires. So if somebody's already got the books, 131 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.559 then hey, there's already like a little bit of an opening of belief. 132 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.159 We just got a wide in it and that happened naturally by doing the practices 133 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.559 and seeing the results. Yeah, but I'm going to add and not that 134 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.360 I think that we have grumpy people listening to the show or anything like that, 135 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.679 or unhappy people, but you know, I do think and I've had 136 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.320 moments in my life, like after my dad passed away where I was in 137 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:52.600 grief and grumpy and angry and all those low vibration things that you're feeling and 138 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.279 feeling sort of stuck and should quit best of use write another book. You 139 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.960 know, all those things just come to the surface. So I would also 140 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.919 say, like we USUAD just said something really brilliant right there. You know, 141 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.759 this book kind of gets at Crowbar in there. So if you're feeling 142 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.960 that way, I know, the last thing you want to do is tellably 143 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.120 have a book. It's like, yeah, be all joy, you know 144 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:15.679 kind of thing. But maybe it's exactly what you need. I know, 145 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.639 yesterday, for some reason, I dipped in my energy. I'm like, 146 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.639 oh, did I like eat something that's not making me feel well? Why 147 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.120 do I have this funky like energy about me? Today I couldn't figure out 148 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:28.120 what I was so grumpy about. And then I kind of figured it out. 149 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.799 But today I started reading your book again. I'm like, oh, 150 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:35.639 there's my joy, you know kind of thing. And it's hard, though, 151 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.519 when you're grumpy to pick up a book about joy, isn't it? 152 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:43.399 Or is it? No? I think that's exactly it. That's exactly and 153 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:50.519 we get addicted to our lower emotions. It's just a glift on the system 154 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:54.840 that the human being. We do tend to wallow in our misery and there 155 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.279 has to be like a desire to pull out of it, right, and 156 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.639 if there's not, that is wire. You're not going to open the book 157 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.039 and you're not going to do that really easy first practice, and that is 158 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:11.679 a problem in the system is that we often are just kind of comfortable in 159 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.600 our lower vibration states. Yeah, and recognizing that we are need to needing 160 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.240 to kind of elevate is is different because you know, I have you know 161 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.559 how you have a favorite buzzword of joy? You know, it's your kind 162 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.080 of go to word. Maybe you have other ones too, because I do 163 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.360 that word a year thing, but I think my favorite one is abundance, 164 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:31.960 and I think it kind of goes hand in hand with joy. And I 165 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.559 never been abundance in a sense of like, oh, money's you know, 166 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.799 falling off, treason into my pockets or anything like that, But I just 167 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:45.279 love the feeling of not less than. Yeah. Now, that is a 168 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.639 beautiful world word because one of the things I talk about in the book is 169 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.799 this primitive green programming that we all still our subject to you, because our 170 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.200 Skateman ancestors were like a little Pliny blipp Ago in the grand scheme of things 171 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:03.639 and scarcity, scarcity for reass competition over desirable meets and the right varies and 172 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.080 the right season, and you know that was that's hardwired into us. It 173 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.600 doesn't really have application. And now our western privileged societies that we live in, 174 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:18.480 but we still are or programmed with that default setting to think about everything 175 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.440 in our lives in terms of scarcity. So abundance feels like the antidote to 176 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.039 that. To me. You can have abundance of joy, abundance of the 177 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:30.039 rest, abundance of peace, abundance of finance or resources, if that's what 178 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.320 you're you're needing. Abundance of love. I think it's a beautiful word. 179 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.399 Love. I love that word. It's just like become one of my favorite 180 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.200 ones. And I think it's like so like you were saying, like it's 181 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.879 so it just applies. It's like the antidote to when you're feeling like less 182 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:52.440 than or does any kind of negative anything. It helps you give yourself perspective, 183 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.600 much like joy. I think as well, like if and there's a 184 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.440 point in your book and I can't remember which page page it was on or 185 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.240 anything, but it wasn't like you're not saying like I think you said, 186 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.399 like be all Pollyanna on it, but not you know, at the risk 187 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.639 of being Pollyanna, that's not what you're saying. Can you fix that sentence 188 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:16.039 a little bit there for me? Yeah, absolutely, it was. I 189 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.679 think it was in one of the self assessments about like do you expect the 190 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:26.240 best to unfold or are you afraid of looking like a Pollyanna if you were 191 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.440 to take that approach, Yeah, where has life shown you that taking that 192 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.559 approach is the portal to miracles? Like only when we expect to the best 193 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.600 to unfold, as opposed to always expecting the worst case so unfold. That's 194 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.120 when we created that way. You know, we have to have the belief 195 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.360 of the excrecation before we can have the creation. Yeah, you were talking. 196 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:50.799 I think you were talking about faith, unwavering faith. That was something 197 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.039 my dad had. My dad was so sick from two thousand and four to 198 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.440 twenty eighteen, and I would say, what is making you continue on where 199 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.320 other people would give up, you know, because he's a subject in my 200 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:07.799 books and things like that. And he had such faith and hope and such 201 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:15.360 a positive, positive vibe even in the sickest and worst way, you know, 202 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.840 when he was just so sick and so not feeling well, he always 203 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.519 had such faith and it was amazing he applied such positive energy to being sick. 204 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.639 It was it was a true, a true lesson. Do you find 205 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:33.879 that that's something that joy can bring, is positive through just anything coming your 206 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:39.240 way? Oh, people like that are so beautiful to be around. What 207 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.960 a blessing for you, And what a blessing I'm sure you were for him, 208 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.279 And and that's that's just it. It's when we can source that from 209 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.159 within which is a learned skill. Any of us can learn to do it. 210 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.320 When we can source that and be that we are shining so much love 211 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.879 and light onto everyone around us. And then, you know, love ripples 212 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:03.879 so all of those people, everybody that they are in contact with that day, 213 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.000 whether it's the kid making your sandwich on the dully or the guy getting 214 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.559 in the elevator with you, it ripples out. And that's why people like 215 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:18.279 your dad, you know, people told many people are afraid to put some 216 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.320 effort in time into their joy in elevating their own personal vibration because I feel 217 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.559 like that's selfish when there's so much suffering in the world. But it's the 218 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:30.639 very best thing you can do for those around you and for everybody beyond that. 219 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:35.759 It just ripples out so absolutely that you know, having those kind of 220 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.759 people in our lives are such a blessing. Yeah, I must think at 221 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.799 points we you know, great doctors too, but I think it points there 222 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:48.240 were moments when it was hopeless and we willed them well and he willed himself. 223 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.240 Oh, it was a really interesting thing, my dad being sick. 224 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:56.159 So yeah, I believe that cool human being and we plastered his hospital walls 225 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:02.559 with photographs of all eleven of us kids and Grant can you get tiny kids 226 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.600 eighteen or seventeen grandkids at the time, and all this stuff, and we 227 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.919 just we we willed him well as best we could, and it worked. 228 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.080 It worked for a while until things, you know, he just got his 229 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:15.679 chick. But that was a really long time to survive with what happened to 230 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.360 him. Thank you for listening to that. Talked about my dad, Tyd. 231 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:25.720 He's always he's always around. See, you've got a word in your 232 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.879 book, and I feel like my Midwest self is going to destroy the pronunciation 233 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.639 of this word. But it's like, is it kirk kirk lunk like kirk 234 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:41.960 like it's neat for Midwestern k I feel like it's very literally like kirk lunk 235 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:47.519 kirk luck. Did I get it right? You've got it perfect. I 236 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.360 don't even know where it came from to tell you the too it I've just 237 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.000 been saying it for so long. But I don't know if if for somebody 238 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:56.080 else say it or I meet it up. But yeah, it's just I 239 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.960 feel like we need this word in our vocabulary. Those of those who are 240 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.759 on a spiritual talk and have done this sort of a metaphysical study or just 241 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.519 personal growth study for a long time. It's that moment that really shake your 242 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.279 beautiful moment when this idea that you've heard about and agreed to and you know 243 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.440 you already had the light bulb go off in your head that some prior workshop 244 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.759 or retreat. Oh yeah, this is a solid principle. I am behind 245 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.200 this, I agree with this, this is I'm on board. But then 246 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.559 at some point, after hearing it repeatedly, you're hearing how people have applied 247 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.279 it to their lives. It just goes kirk clunk down into your bones, 248 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.599 into your soul, and you're changed by it. And I feel like that's 249 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:41.319 what this whole journey is about, is just hearing these things and being in 250 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:47.880 those containers, those energetic containers enough that these concepts that seem like great ideas 251 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.799 and theory, but they aren't really the way the world works. So we 252 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.920 kind of just keep them over here in our once a week, you know, 253 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.920 workshop that we go to. But when they become part of your life, 254 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:02.400 when they just become your default setting, it's such a beautiful, beautiful 255 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.279 thing when that happens. So I had to make up a word for it. 256 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.960 It's a great word. And that is a hard concept to explain to 257 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:14.759 people because as self help authors like, I've heard myself called not pragmatic, 258 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:15.440 and I'm like, oh no, no, no, no no. What 259 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.920 I'm trying to say is this gratitude thing, it becomes part of you. 260 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.960 You root your whole entire being in it, so that when something comes your 261 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.559 way, you know, you see it from a totally different point of view. 262 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.240 Men, maybe even much different than other people see it because they're on 263 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:36.519 a different wavelength, path, space place, whatever it is, and that 264 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.400 is that's hard to explain. So as you were talking, I wrote down 265 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.920 like gratitude, abundance, joy, peace, happiness, and all those like 266 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:49.079 lovely love, high vibrational type words. What happens to you when they become 267 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:55.599 part of you? Like your method of operation, like I operate from gratitude. 268 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:57.839 You I'm sure you operate from a number of things, but for sake 269 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:02.640 of this, I'm just going you great from joy. What happens to your 270 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:07.799 being when you operate from that place versus like operating from anger or sadness or 271 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:15.359 grief or impatience or whatever. Lilia's sister for sure, and it's it's a 272 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.720 practice of skill. Right, like habits. We all are habitual creatures. 273 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:23.200 We all have habitual thought patterns that are just going across that ticker tape in 274 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:27.359 our lines all day long. And habits are not known for being particularly easy 275 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.640 to break, but we all know they are breakable. It is something that 276 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.279 you can do with some commitment, with some practice, you can install a 277 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:41.160 whole new thought pattern default system. Yeah, your book's a perfect book for 278 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:49.720 somebody saying this always happens to me, don't you think? Yeah, And 279 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:55.599 that could be a huge nut for a lot of people to really kind of 280 00:19:55.640 --> 00:20:00.119 by desk is that. Yeah, it does keep happening to us because we 281 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:06.319 our reality manufacturing machines, and if we're always creating our next reality from the 282 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.839 energy that is being inconsistent within us, we're going to keep creating the same 283 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:14.519 reality in us since again and again, even if because different wrapping people. 284 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.480 It's only when we take control of the creative matter, the clay that we're 285 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.079 creating from our energy, that we can never create anything different. So, 286 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.119 yeah, it is a good book for that, but someone has to be 287 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.799 ready to kind of hear and acknowledge that and take responsibility. And it's kind 288 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.480 of beating ourselves up if we're creating things we don't like, you know, 289 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.359 that's such a slippery slope. It's like once you decide, yes, I 290 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.000 am creating everything out there, even these things that I'm really unhappy. But 291 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.400 you can't beat yourself up about that because we just it's what we do. 292 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.039 We don't know any better. It's all done so innocently, so unwittingly, 293 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.720 that having compassion for that whole creative cycle and compassion for ourselves is the only 294 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.319 way to heal it and change it. It's a great word. Compassion, 295 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:02.519 such a good word. Compassion for yourself is a big thing. Because I 296 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:07.519 don't know about you, Lisa, but are you. My website anyway doesn't 297 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.880 say perfect ever you. It says best ever you. And I really mean 298 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.920 that from my heart. You know. I think there's certain people you pray 299 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.960 are perfect, like surgeons and pilots and people you know, but even they 300 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.880 make mistakes and things like that. But on a day in and day out 301 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:30.039 basis, you know, to try and be your best and live your best 302 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.319 life and bring the joy and the happy energy and and all that stuff. 303 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.480 Even if you even if you're disrupting, like what you were kind of saying, 304 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:45.480 like disrupting your flow of whatever it is you've got going on. I'm 305 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.880 going to be choppy here, but bringing back in that compassion for when you 306 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.839 make those mistakes or when you aren't perfect, or when things aren't great or 307 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.799 whatever it is. Like this morning on my Twitter, I put out a 308 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:02.240 note that said yoga pants. So it's like the antidote to jeans, because 309 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:06.039 jeans make everybody's franky, you know, or something like that, which you 310 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.880 know, if you think about a woman in the dressing room trying on jeans, 311 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.559 there's nothing but frustration. But yoga pants are like in the perfect whatever, 312 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:18.359 and and then you and then you hold on waiting on the don and 313 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.400 then you go into this, you know, beat yourself up for eating this 314 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.279 or that because your jeans don't fit, and you're like, no, no, 315 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:26.960 no, just the yoga pants are good. No kind of thing. 316 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:32.880 So I know why I was grumpy Yesterday's because I wolfed down two pieces of 317 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.720 pizza and then I and then I was like, oh man, my jeans 318 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.559 don't fit. And I had that whole thing and things that we're talking about 319 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:45.279 in pragmatic ways right in reality, you know, right, pizza was not 320 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:52.279 going to be this my joy. Nor were jeans take that one? Yeah 321 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:57.640 no run, Yeah, I don't know what to do that when that was 322 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:00.680 too adorable. But yeah, and you know what, You're allowed to have 323 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.680 pizza too. You're allowed to have joy from pizza too. You're allowed to 324 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.480 have joy on the days that your teens get great, and you're allowed to 325 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.039 have joy on the days they don't because you have that joy of the yummy 326 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:15.319 pizza. So you know, we get to be our human creatureselves sometimes and 327 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:22.119 and yeah, just just giving up on that judgment for the pizza days is 328 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.880 a huge game changer. It's like, yeah, I'm gonna happy the pizza 329 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.799 sometimes I deserve it. I'm gonna lovely right there, jeans are going specked 330 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.839 away for a day anyway. Yeah, I know, just some just some 331 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.160 fun. You know, if you can't laugh at yourself, boy, that's 332 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.200 part of it too, right, the laughter and the fun. And I 333 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.279 think I think so much about I think about joy and happiness. I also 334 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:49.759 think about laughter, do you Yeah, Oh for sure, yeah, there's 335 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:55.680 laughter therapy. Those whole you know, books are written about the cancer peach 336 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.200 and who just go and laugh for an hour a day and use a trial. 337 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.319 It releases endorphins that calms the nervous system. There are all sorts of 338 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:08.039 things that our bodies do that have a tremendous impact on our body chemistry. 339 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:15.000 Humming. Humming changes our body chemistry, something about the vibration. And David 340 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.759 Primosa has a limesher chocolate but laughing for sure. They say, even just 341 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:23.640 putting your face into a smile, like using those muscles in your face with 342 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:29.440 smiling sends messages to your brain to release dopamine and endorphins, I mean, 343 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.839 happy chemicals. So yeah, yeah, and I love it, you know. 344 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:38.720 And key two, Lisa talks about know Thyself and on page fifty nine 345 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:42.559 and sixty for all of you new to self help, which I know we 346 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.559 seem to get people kind of listening in and trying to figure out what they're 347 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:51.240 gonna do with their own journey and things like that. But there's a really 348 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:56.119 cool I'm so glad you put this in this book, Lisa, because even 349 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:02.000 I am, like, I don't really quite so much information on meditation out 350 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:07.599 there that it overwhelmed my brains. I absolutely just my brain's like I don't 351 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.400 know which one to trust which one to do, and so I usually end 352 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.400 up kind of doing this and it's described perfectly in your book, and I 353 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.599 like it because it just taught me a few things. I'm like, oh, 354 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.200 okay, there's some things I can do. But fifty nine sixty sixty 355 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.759 one. You talk a lot about meditation. Do you want to talk more 356 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:30.000 about meditation now? Maybe? Sure? Yeah. I think that the word 357 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.000 scares a lot of people off. It goes one of two ways. Like 358 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.720 the happier listeners probably like, oh, I would never go a day without 359 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:41.319 meditating, Like people who have built the practice typically love it and our proponents 360 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:42.680 for it. But there are a lot of people who I think would say, 361 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.759 like, oh I tried that. It wasn't for me. I don't 362 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.599 know how to turn off my thoughts. First of all, it's not about 363 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.799 turning off your thoughts. Nobody's turning off their thoughts. So it was just 364 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.359 not really a thing that happens in this human form. And so I tried 365 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.000 to give alternatives and different ways, and there's chance thing, and there's you 366 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.440 know, basically, anything we do with enough mindfulness can become a meditation. 367 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:10.279 You can have admitting meditation or a cooking meditation or walking meditation. So I 368 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:15.559 try to take the you know, the mystery out of it in that chapter, 369 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.279 because all it's really about is setting that little bit of distance from your 370 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.640 thoughts. Right our thoughts are feeding us a load of crop every day, 371 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.720 that's the ticker tape is going by. They say seventy thousand thoughts a day. 372 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.359 Most of them are the same ones we had yesterday and last week and 373 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.480 last month, and the statistics say the majority of most people's thoughts are negative 374 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.599 thoughts. This is alsto part of that primitive brain programming that we had, 375 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.839 you know, when we were when our survival was in question every day, 376 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.279 when we actually had to be on high alert for the dangers that could come 377 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:52.599 around any corner, and propagation of the species was a really strong biological needs 378 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.599 that seemed threatened. And it's not that way anymore, but our brains hadn't 379 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.759 caught up. So these spots that most of us are watching go by every 380 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:07.240 day and attaching to and identifying with are generally not serving our joy. So 381 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.079 meditation is really just a way to get a little bit of distance, and 382 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.759 not only during that time that you're meditating. That's not really the point, 383 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.880 because a lot of people will say, Oh, I meditated and nothing happens. 384 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.559 Nothing happens, but I meditated, nothing is supposed to happen. It's 385 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.759 just a little practice session so that when you are out there in life and 386 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.240 something's triggering you, you've built the muscle for pulling back a little bit, 387 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:36.039 taking a little bit more of that observer role, watching your thoughts, watching 388 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.240 your reactivity, instead of being caught up in the drama of it like most 389 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.160 of us are conditioned to do. So that's really all meditation is about, 390 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.720 is just just building that muscle of having a little bit of distance from identifying 391 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.000 with our thoughts. Because once we are disidentified with those thoughts and we're in 392 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.000 that observer role, that's our soul. That's our soul self watching our human 393 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:02.400 self. And the more we can align there in different ways, through different 394 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.319 practices, the more the natural joy that we are is going to flood into 395 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:11.000 our experience, because we are all joy at our core. M I love 396 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:17.000 that good learning show for people. I love when we get to learn what's 397 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.519 your favorite chapter? Do you have one? I know that I know that's 398 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.480 not a fair question, but if you can just just code for pick one 399 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.559 and talk about it. But I think you have a tip. I think 400 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:33.200 it's I think it's chapter ten because I just did a launch party. I 401 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.519 had an online lunch party and I had a live lunch party, and for 402 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.839 the live launch party, it was mostly party and I was just going to 403 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.920 do a little bit from the book. So I was looking through, thinking 404 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.319 like if I was going to read something, and I was going to read 405 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.519 the beginning of chapter ten. But then I realized, do you know what, 406 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.720 without the context of all the other chapters, I don't know that it's 407 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:53.599 it's as rewarding. But it's a chapter where I describe one of my eight 408 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.559 teachers. I use a lot a lot of teachers in the book because that's 409 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.440 how I learned to these things, is by all my beautiful, fabulous like 410 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.279 teachers that I've had, so I want to be sure and always credit them 411 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.599 and call them out when I'm teaching from them. And Rupert Spira has this 412 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:14.799 analogy of sitting on the couch and looking at a blank screen and your friend 413 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.279 comes in and says, hey, what are you doing. You say, 414 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.519 I'm just sitting here looking at this screen. And the next day you're sitting 415 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.799 on the couch looking at the screens. But the TV's on this time, 416 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.880 and your friend comes in and says, hey, what are you doing? 417 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.039 And you say, oh, my god, there's you know, Marjorie's husband 418 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.680 was stabbed by the clown and now he's hiding under her bed. And your 419 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.559 friend's like, oh, it looks to me like you're doing exactly what you're 420 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.359 doing yesterday. You're sitting on the couch looking at the screen. So it's 421 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:47.319 a metaphor for becoming the observer, like we've been touching on, and how 422 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:52.640 everything that's out there in their external reality, it's really just a drama that 423 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:57.119 we've created. We are as a projector, we're the ones who are creating 424 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:03.240 all of this out there, And the more we can become detached from it, 425 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.200 the more we can not be reactive, the more we can stay aligned 426 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.359 with soul. And Yet, and I think this is the part that I 427 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.440 like in this chapter because I never hear anyone else talk about this. I 428 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:22.200 don't like I've been in these spiritual trainings where it's all about watching the screen. 429 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.400 I don't like that on a moment to moment basis because for me being 430 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.680 here in this human suit. I relish this human stuff. I relish the 431 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:37.119 pleasures of the flesh. I relish the connection and the relationships. And I 432 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.480 don't want to be reminded of the screen all the time. So I've sort 433 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.480 of invented this for me. I can decide when I want to get lost 434 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:51.240 in the movie and forget that it's a fake thing that I created. And 435 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.920 other times when I can pull back and sit on the couch and turn down 436 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.240 the volume a little bit and blur it out the images a little bit. 437 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.079 And and in that way, the show that I'm watching unfold goes from being 438 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:08.440 a high intensity drama some more of a documentary, so that I can not 439 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.559 be entangled in these storylines that cause suffering. Instead of seeing, you know 440 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:21.960 how, you know, why is it happening? I can say, well, 441 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.759 what did my soul want to show me when it need and directed this 442 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.960 movie? What what am I to learn from here? How can I evolve 443 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.160 from this? And it's just kind of a metaphor that if I had been 444 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.839 reading it, it would have sounded better. But that's that's that chapter that 445 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.720 I really like. Yeah, no, I like this chapter two. It's 446 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.519 funny. I read two from the front and three from the back, which 447 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.200 was the remaining three chapters just to kind and so I'll go back and read 448 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.039 the middle of the book. But I was just trying to kind of get 449 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.200 a feel for the book beginning to end, and I noticed IM like, 450 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.359 I'm going to have to read this more thoroughly, but we're good for today. 451 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:00.640 Anyway. I'll have and I'm gonna have you back on and talk more 452 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:07.519 about your book. But I like the there's some quotes in this chapter from 453 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.920 there and you talk about so my favorite people too, but you're like, 454 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.960 you talk about I don't mind what happens Mike Drop you know that one? 455 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:22.160 And then they are of course, and I'm Miguel Ruiz, who I've had 456 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.680 father and son on my radio show before. If you haven't listened to that 457 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.920 show, that was a cool show. I'll send you a link to it. 458 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.720 If you haven't heard that one, Lisa, I thought, yeah, 459 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.279 no, really super fun. And they're and they're friends of yours. So 460 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.079 tell me, tell me, Ah, I don't even know the kind of 461 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.160 question I want to ask other than this, these are great quotes, But 462 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.720 tell me why it was important to loop these people into this chapter. How's 463 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.599 that. Yeah, No, I think every chapter I've loops people in. 464 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.440 I don't know. I have always I've always had this feeling ever since I 465 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.119 decided because I think, I don't know. This was the case for you, 466 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.240 Eliza, But I have a lot of friends who write about the kinds 467 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.440 of things that we write about, a lot of friends and personal growth, 468 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.440 and for many of us, that first moment up, I think I want 469 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.480 to write a book. Who am I to write a book? You know? 470 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.359 There are so many great books out there, And there was really this 471 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.160 turning point for me where I realized, like, I'm just joining a team. 472 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.680 I'm joining a really important army. Because for every person out there who's 473 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.359 never looked into personal growth or spirituality or metaphysics or any of this stuff, 474 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.799 for every one of them, or let's say, for everybody who has who 475 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.480 has been initiated into this world, there was a teacher. There was somebody 476 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:44.359 someone along the way. Something they were scrolling down a Facebook feed or a 477 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.480 book caught their eye in the bookstore, or somehow they had exposure to a 478 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.559 person's energy that made them curious enough to dip their toes in these waters and 479 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:58.960 start exploring there. And that's going to be different for every person out there 480 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.960 who would really been from this kinde of messaging. So I feel like the 481 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:07.559 more of us that there are on this team, the more likely it's going 482 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.239 to be that someone's going to catch a group with our personality, our form 483 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.039 of delivery. And ever since then, I've just been such a proponent. 484 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.199 My joy school has always been equal parts I'm going to teach you what I 485 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.199 know, and I'm going to bring in this amazing teacher, and I'm going 486 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.559 to bring in this amazing teacher because to me, the joining of all of 487 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.239 that, it's what's so powerful and what I love about being on this team. 488 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.199 Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I remember when I closed 489 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.800 the door to my office and the financial services industry and wrote down best ever 490 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:37.960 me, best ever You, and I was like, oh, other people 491 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.639 have to be feeling this way. And I went on this journey of not 492 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.159 knowing really I wasn't to that point a person who reads self help books even 493 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.440 or anything like that. So I've had to go on this journey and have 494 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.880 been on this wonderful journey of who are all these authors and what are their 495 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.280 messages and what are they saying? And do I agree, disagree? What 496 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.360 you know? That of thing. And for me, when I decided to 497 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.400 write a book, it was a moment when my dad was in a rehab 498 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:14.880 facility and for his stroke and he couldn't talk really to that point or anything 499 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:15.719 like that. It had taken like an hour to get him down to the 500 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.840 speech therapy session, and this nurse said to us, to my mom and 501 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:22.880 me, you know, she goes, you know, most people in this 502 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.360 situation can't say a word, but we're gonna play the alphabet game anyway. 503 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.960 And when he says, hey, I'm going to ask him for a word 504 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.039 that comes to mind, and mostly she goes, most people don't see anything 505 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.559 considering where he's at. And he said art bark and then he went benevolent, 506 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:37.800 Yeah, yeah no, And then we're like, oh boy, there's 507 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.239 drugs, drugs on board. He now he's like art bark and then he 508 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:46.519 went benevolence, courage, termination, excellence. F was a swear word goodness, 509 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.639 happiness, integrity, joy, kindness, love, em with movies on 510 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.199 and on and on. I'm like, oh my, I need and I 511 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.280 got my journal that I had my purse about it just as quickly as I 512 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:04.440 could and wrote down Glate ABC's of Life and that was the first book I 513 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:09.199 wrote. But so it wasn't like it wasn't like Deepak Chopra or anything like 514 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.920 that. For me, it was like my dad. I'm like, oh, 515 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:14.840 I got to tell people this. My Dad's gonna show us all how 516 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.920 to live through this happening kind of thing. And then I had to go 517 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:22.760 back and learn about who all these people were in writing books and in this 518 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.239 space and things like that. So for me, I feel like I always 519 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.800 have gaps, and I really love your book because I'm like, oh, 520 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.400 that's who that is. And that's because I still have gaps, I admit 521 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.079 it. Oh my god, but you had your personal guru. That's so 522 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.079 beautiful. That's so beautiful and even more meaningful. Yeah, it was. 523 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.960 It was really fun and I think I think we all have that too. 524 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.760 I know, I know, I know you have that with your kids and 525 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.760 things like that, and they become why you do what you do and some 526 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:52.960 of the things. So I want to before we go, I want to 527 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.360 talk about the structure of your books so people can kind of get a feel 528 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.519 for what's how the book is and how you intend people to use the book. 529 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:07.079 Could you go through that? For us? Absolutely, and like you 530 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:13.280 were seeing too, it's completely okay to read the book cover to cover, 531 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.280 and most of my Ziance readers did that because they wanted to read the whole 532 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.719 book. So it's fine to read the whole book and then go back and 533 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.039 do the practices, and it's fine to cherry picks from the practices too. 534 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.159 I really just wanted to create because I've been doing this a little long time, 535 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.119 and I used to feel like, Okay, all I want to do 536 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.800 is find these most powerful pieces and give those to people so they can turn 537 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.960 around their lives. And I've realized through my Joy School that it takes repetition, 538 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.199 and it takes time, and every step requires integration. So I tried 539 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.480 to lay out what to me felt like the most absolutely full proof system. 540 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.559 But if you actually spend a week on each of these things bringing it into 541 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:58.280 your day to day life, you can't help but substantially elevate your joy step 542 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.559 point. So that's why it's play out that way. It's the twelve Keys 543 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.519 or the twelve months of the year. You can start anytime, any day 544 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:09.679 of the year, and each one gives four week long practices every month isn't 545 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:14.519 exactly four weeks, so there's some little room in there. The right four 546 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:19.880 practices that you will do sequentially, each one built upon the pire one where 547 00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.239 you integrate an idea of thought a practice and you bring it into your day 548 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:29.719 to day and in that way it allows time for each of these really time 549 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:34.800 practice spiritual principles what most of them are. Some are more modern psychological principles, 550 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.960 but it's really all sort of the same same basis of these are things 551 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.840 that work, but only when you do them. So I thought stretching it 552 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.199 out to a year long practice, it would give people an opportunity to do 553 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.639 the doing part and not just they're reading in the AHAs. Yeah, and 554 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.960 then does that go hand in hand with Joy School? Tell us about Joy 555 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.719 School a little bit, so we know what that is. I know, 556 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.039 I thought on your website, I think I'm going to join that. I 557 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.119 think it was fun. Oh my gosh, you'd be so wonderful there. 558 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:12.559 We have a weekly opportunity to meet. People are busy that everybody comes every 559 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.840 week, but there are four opportunities a month to meet. And it is 560 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.400 a lot of the practices in the book, so all the parts of the 561 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.000 book. All the different keys or the book are things that I've been teaching 562 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.079 in Joy School. But when we're live and in person, not in person, 563 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.679 live on zoom, we can go a lot deeper and do different things 564 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.960 and make it more personalized. But yeah, some people come to Joy School 565 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.400 from the book because they want a place to go and talk about it and 566 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:43.840 practice with other people who are in that same mindset. But it's totally fine 567 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.800 of someone's not reading the book too. We have that as well, as 568 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.440 we all learned in high school. It's possible to get get by the class 569 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.280 without opening the touch and that's what some people choose to do, and that's 570 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:58.960 beautiful too. But it's really just a very very supportive it's different little small 571 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:05.440 groups where where we support one another in elevating joy and so often seeing how 572 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:09.039 somebody else is applying a principle or how it's showing up in someone else's life 573 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.360 that provides the opening for a different Joy School or to say, oh, 574 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.639 I hadn't thought about it that way, And it really leads to a lot 575 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.960 of those kirk ones, a lot of those integration moments just by by sharing 576 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:27.960 the experience with others. No beautiful. Oh let's see now, Okay, 577 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.400 we're gonna We're gonna go just for sake of time. But before we go, 578 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:31.719 I just wanted I was looking at your bio and things like that here 579 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.679 to see if I've kind of forgotten aything. So I was kind of talking 580 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.440 out loud. But we simcourt dot com Joy School. Is there? Have 581 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.920 You've really written forty books for adults and kids? Forty books? Oh my 582 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.079 gosh, I just read that. I don't know why that. My eyes 583 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.679 skipped over that, but you have forty books. Holy moly. A lot 584 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.760 of those were early kids bugs, and most of them are out of prints. 585 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.800 My fifty baseline has stayed in print for twenty five, twenty six years 586 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.440 now, but I am so great before all the stinky facebooks are in frints. 587 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.039 But a lot of the other books that I wrote for kids, and 588 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.639 I wrote parenting books for McMillan at one point when my kids were young. 589 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.519 You know, how to read the Happy prod on how to reach the Happy 590 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.480 Baby, and most of those are are no longer available because I've been doing 591 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:22.119 this a long time. But yeah, that's not many. Yeah, that's 592 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.599 awesome. And then you've got some names cheers that I know in love like 593 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.800 Jack Canfield, He's endorsed my books and is a good buddy of mine. 594 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.800 Love him. And then also when I very first, like I said, 595 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.679 I was on this learning journey, we did this huge motivation marathon and this 596 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.599 was way back like years ago now, probably like almost fifteen years ago now. 597 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.960 But Michael Beckwith was the keynote. Oh yeah, yeah, doctor Michael 598 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.559 Beckway. Yeah, he has been one of my teachers. First shore I've 599 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.880 been long one time with a Gothy. I sing in the Global Choir, 600 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.400 which I absolutely love doing more than more than I can vouch for my my 601 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:08.719 talent at doing it, I can vouch for my enthusiasm, but I'm not 602 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:15.239 I'm not a lead. I don't get like those solos for what I'm really 603 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.880 good. Yeah, enthusiasm always wins. So anyway, that's awesome. All 604 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.679 right, Well, have I forgotten anything. It's been a true joy having 605 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.480 you here. And I didn't mean that as a pun or anything like that. 606 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.599 I just mean really like a true joy being able to being able to 607 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.679 meet you and have you on the best ever You show. It's so cool 608 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.920 and it I never thought it's funny because you know, you read these books 609 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:40.920 to your kids, and you're like, oh, h'll be so I'm I'm 610 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.480 a collector of kids books just so you know, I've like signed Jan Brett 611 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.440 books and things like that, so maybe you'll add to my collection. But 612 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.840 I never thought like, I was like, that'd be so cool to meet 613 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.280 her one day, you know. I was like, I'm like that. 614 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.440 When I was reading kid's books. I'm like, wherever I could, I'd 615 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.199 meet the author. And I never had a chance to meet you up until 616 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.559 this moment. Our Journeys brought us together. And boy, would that be 617 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.239 a highlight of my life. I'll pay you money for a copy, signed 618 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:13.199 copy if I love you stinky face. Oh my god, my kids so 619 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.480 funny, No money required, considerate to say. I am thrilled to meet 620 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.559 you. I love your heart, I can feel you. I love making 621 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.800 is that. One of my favorite perks of this whole little world that we're 622 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:30.320 in is getting to meet beautiful like minded sisters. Because they're not that I'm 623 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.880 a dozen out there right, we have to sort of like find them through 624 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.119 these networks. And it's my greatest blessing to have been able to connect with 625 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.400 people like you. I adore you a new friends. Yeah, I adore 626 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.000 you two new friends. So here we go. We'll go on a little 627 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.400 journey that we go to thank you hci and and Lindsay and everybody over there 628 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.280 and Christine. Okay, everybody, it's that time, you know. You 629 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:52.840 know, for me from listening to the shows, it is very difficult for 630 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.800 me to end shows. But we're going to do it. I'm going to 631 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.360 press the end button here soon. I just want to thank you all for 632 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.719 listening to us. We are inching up on five million downloads now and that 633 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.679 is listens and downloads, and that is not an easy seat. We've been 634 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.719 doing this since twenty ten. All grassroots. I always say that I am 635 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.280 My nickname was kind of still is. It's Outflow. We all know that, 636 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.639 but it's a funny nickname. But I always say, you know, 637 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.599 we're mom approved and a little bit of outflow, husband funded and things like 638 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:27.440 that, and it cracks me up. But we don't do advertising or anything 639 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.320 like that with anything with Best ever you, so it is all grassroots. 640 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.000 It's all pretty much free. You can write articles in the magazine. I 641 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.000 never really even charge people for ads in the magazine, so it's pretty much 642 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:43.119 a free thing here, So that's that's my thing, and I love all 643 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.719 of you very much for being here buying Lisa's book. Is it in pre 644 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.760 order or for purchase right now? Is it? Is it out for purchase 645 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.480 now? I bout all right? Everybody had on over to Amazon, Barnes 646 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.119 and Noble, wherever we get your books, independent bookstores, Free your Joy, 647 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.480 The Twelve Keys to s Sustainable Happiness. I got it right by author 648 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.599 Lisa McCourt and Lisa, thank you very much. It's been so much fun 649 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.760 having you here. Thank you all right. Let me to thank you by 650 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.159 everybody. Thank you for listening. We're so glad you tuned in. Be 651 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:20.199 brave, be bold, See you and remember to visit us at best everu dot com