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US military. This is mac muloney's
Military X Files and now here's Mac maloney.

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Well, good evening everyone, Welcome
to Macmoney's Mill Track Sauce Show here

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on the Distant Thunder Radio Network.
This is mc maloney. Hey, we

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have a very special AllMusic show for
you tonight. Let me introduce the co

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conspirators. Girls, he's here on
an off night. Get your fan,

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get your mistice, your big blocks
to clinics, your big box of wife,

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your squeegee and your lube. It's
very famous. One one is here.

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Wanni do you bet your hello?
Mac? Hello, girls, welcome

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to the show. It's going to
be a fun night tonight, special music

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show, special music show. I
love these me too. How with things

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over there in Old Hampshire. Well, we're cracking on, as they say

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in the pubs. You know,
we're doing okay. If the government would

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just leave us alone, everything would
be fine. Really. Yeah, you're

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already complaining about the government. You've
been there by a year. Yeah.

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They got rid of the woman who
ran the Home Office. It's like the

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Home Office to the UK is like
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well she's kind of important and she's
gone and now you're unhappy. Oh

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we're happy. Oh, you're happy. Okay. Yeah. Wow. I

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was just gonna say, if you
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it would make some you know,
make completely different a completely different meanings.

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Yeah. That the phrases crack on
even more so. It was intense.

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Let me introduce first, thank you
one for joining us. Sure in the

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studio with us is someone who really
comes on the show, though she's been

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on the show several times now in
the past month. The very famous,

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the very lovely Lois Lane. Lois, Hi, everybody, it's nice to

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be here. How are you,
hi, Lois? Let me clearly,

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let me clear that camera shot for
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Lois? I'm doing great. Thanks. You're kind of like a roady

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they're helping with our musical set up. Yeah. Yeah, I was definitely

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in the roady position today. Wow. Also another joke this somewhere are you

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in the union there? Lois?
Have you doing this kind of stuff?

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If not just helping Mark? Okay
that's what they also. Yeah. Also

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in the studio with us is the
very famous no belly button man. No

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uh well, aptly as Mike Poll
and Mike, how are you doing good?

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Good? Thank you? Nice to
be Wow, it's three people in

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a two mic studio, all right, and you're gonna be cutting the act,

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as Shaggy Green used to say.
Right, okay, instead of using

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my little two dollars sound effects machine, got a real drum in there on

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What are those Ludwig drums? This
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okay, just give it a try. Let's see what the media says.

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Okay, I just said something funny. Yeah, yeah, try,

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Okay, that's all right. Three
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too. Also with us up in
another part of New Hampshire, Barry winning

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a ka oh. I won't even
say it because he's embarrassed by the character

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he used to play on the show. So I'm gonna spare you that,

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my friend, Barry wedding. How
are you doing, Barry? I am

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doing just fine, Mac, and
thanks for having me back. Okay.

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He fancies himself I mus school expert, and we've had a few uh you

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know, showdowns on Zoom uh mostly
beatle stuff, and at one point I

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was beating him and it was close, but I was beating him in the

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in the power went out right before
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to this day. Doesn't believe that
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correct. It absolutely happened that way. She rested there, and you know,

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I have a feeling that she wouldn't
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that's not Wow. I wouldn't lie. I would not lie. Wow.

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No, there's no pressure at all, you know, if it wasn't the

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truth did be, you know,
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all right? And I did beat
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I might not be sure, but
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Really it's gonna be exciting tonight with
those two going. Listen, we have

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a special guest, a good friend, Matt Malley out there in La.

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How you doing, Matt, Let's
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What are you ad you're recovering rockstar? Is that what you said? It

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was once retired, but now it's
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all right? We count and grows
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for what the years at least?
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all right? I think we killed
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you know that thank you one,
thank you, there's a good way

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to The cup is half full when
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I know? I know. Is
it worth killing for? Or is the

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lifestyle worth killing for? Yeah,
it's not what you think. I'm here

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to tell you. It's a lot
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and lights on you with a you
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get back on the bus and do
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would be fun for about three months. But after ten years, yeah,

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it starts like Chinese water torture.
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I'm assuming it's it's just because of
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how those things, those tours are. You got to be here, you

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got to be there. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's it's a machine.

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You're just in a machine. Pinture. We got out right with that.

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What's that song off which you were
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Uh, we call it right in
the gravey tray. It's that song is

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about exactly about being a rocket,
yeah yeah, a gravy train. Right.

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Yeah, now you can remember it. But if you're over the and

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you've met the Rolling Stones, right, yeah, Okay, now there they're

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in a different hung out with them
for hung out with them. They're in

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a different statusphere, they're in a
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they just fly to they just fly
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been nicer. And it dawned on
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the mountain, you've got nothing to
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have to be and they were just
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Wow, that's good to hear.
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that when they would when they would
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all just they'd basically just go to
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night or something. Yeah, they'd
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would go from wherever Indianapolis down to
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to there. Literally they're probably three
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the entire floor, I don't know
what. And they would just fly private

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to every gig all around the middle
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to watch. Wow, that's crazy. They didn't hang out in the cities.

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They were going to play and they
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you get on the bus, you
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I mean. You got to be
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just funny that they go and sleep
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it'll fly out. Someone that's say, you're you're right, you're on top

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of the mountain. What the hell? Why not? You know? No

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objected? Who cares exactly exactly?
We flew private a couple of times.

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I think America Online had us do
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And I'm here to tell you that
flying private, when you see how those

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people live. You literally drive out
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out onto the tarmac, take your
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go. And we flew listen.
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my house, went to the Van
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away, played a gig in Idaho, and was back home by ten pm.

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Wow, that's how that's how Brad
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yeah, yeah. Wow. That's
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it isn't quite so bad if you
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always says, well, the Rolling
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to do is show up all the
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Look at you. You spent six
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and all least the Stones had to
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Lois had a question, Lois,
please, I was just going to say,

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our first trivia question could be can
you name the title of that Pink

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Floyd song? M I can hear
it into my head? Yep. Well

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let's go around the circle and see. Do you know the name that?

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Lois? Of course I do.
She's a big Pink Floyd apparently. Actually

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I don't like Pink Floyd at all. I just know this song? Did

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we stop to show you? Does
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the name of the album? No? The song he was looking for the

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title? I think it's isn't that
gravy train? It's that? Or have

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a cigar? Does it have a
so? Have a cigar? Wins one?

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Okay, all right, you'll have
to split that one point anyway.

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So we just hang around here tonight
we're going to be talking music. We

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have a bunch of I just have
a bunch of fun facts, and you

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know, some questions, trivia question
and just ask the opinion of everybody of

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certain bands and certain performances and stuff. But what we're going to do is

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start off the show as we always
do it, with a top ten top

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ten list read by Lois tonight.
Lois, do you have it? Of

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course I do? Of course she
does. I do. Me jumping right

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into it. Yes, I think
it is the top ten reasons why the

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stones have asked one one to join
the band. Okay, we just heard

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the news today. Top ten reasons
why the stores have asked one on to

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join the band. Please start the
music, Lois, number ten, You

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get ready, mark number ten.
He can get the coke? Very important,

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I can again, Yes, I'll
have six. Please, that's a

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number nine please, Lois number nine. I don't know how I get myself

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into these things where I have to
say stuff like this. But he can

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get the hookers, he can get
the hookers. I can't believe she read

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that. Okay, a few connections
there, right, use the same person,

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as it turns out, number eight. Please use the pub connections.

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You go to the pub and you
go into the men's room, and then

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you see who's on the list.
Okay is that another weird British custom?

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On what list? It's a throwback
from you know, Alexander the Great.

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That's how you did it? Oh, okay, good to know. Let's

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see number number eight. I'm right
most Number eight is he has vast experience

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touring with superstars, as documented in
his two thousand page single Space to Opus

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Why Rock Needs Me. Yeah,
I'll still work on pet Opus pot one.

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That's only part one. Next,
please, let's we can harvy this

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a line my laws. Okay.
Number seven. The last time mix stopped

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by he fell in love with Winston
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little inside, but okay, it's
a good work. Next, please,

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he knows CPR. Think about it
for a second. Think about it for

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a second. He knows CPR.
There are eighty year old guys running around

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the stage. CPR, Thank you. I got it right away. I

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didn't need a PoCA. Next,
please also carry oxygen. That's true.

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Okay, we are on number five
of the top ten reasons why the Rolling

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Stones have asked Mom want to join
the band. Number five is he has

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a quote unquote special in with one
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and the Sticky Bears also inside in
the Long Road for the joke. But

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next please, I don't get that
one at all. Prince Andrew and all

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you have to do is google Prince
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He has a collection of I'm seventy
two of them. Was he dressed?

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Is up every day? Who?
Next? Please? Okay? Number

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four? He already knows three chords
and is working on a fourth. There

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you go, yes, all of
them in open g by the way.

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Next okay? Number three? Five
words, A little T and A,

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A little A little T m A. Yeah, absolutely very inside. You

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don't even know what that means.
Keith Rich has wrote a song about his

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two daughters. What's what are?
The daughter's name is Theodora and Alexandra and

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Alison. That's sweet. Well,
a lot of people misinterpret the title.

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But next please, okay, we're
almost there. Number two, someone has

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to play the say it we'll bleep
it bleeping tambourine. Someone has to play

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the tambourine. Okay. And number
one reason the Stones asked one one to

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join the band. Okay, oh, I thought we were waiting for a

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drum roll. The drum roll,
I met a number one is Ozzy Osbourne

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turned them down? Okay, well, good thing about that is it didn't

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take too long. So why don't
we do this though? Why don't we

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take They couldn't have done anything with
os Osbourne? He's old. Had ever

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meet him, Matt never never meet
that circus? Oh no, I never

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met him? Yeah at all.
Yeah. There's a video one YouTube.

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It's probably twenty years old, maybe
maybe a little, and it's the first

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time mccontney met Ozzie Osborne. They
had never met, and he met and

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Ozzie's all over. Ozzie is like
the other reason I'm in music and stuff,

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and mccontney's like, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, I'm sure

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he needs thousands of people like that. But you think those two would have

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crossed paths in the first what he
is, you know? But they didn't.

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You think everyone in rock, everyone
Hollywood, everyone thinks that everyone knows

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each other. But that's not necessarily
the case. Who have you met?

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I mean you, Matt, just
before we go to break You've talked about

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this before, but you met some
you know, you used to tell us

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about the fratthouse rock that kind of
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Yeah, the nineties weren't. I
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excellent time for music in general.
You know, everyone was getting their major

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label deals. It was the go
go nineties, you know, and that

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whole grunge thing I didn't relate to
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my age. You know, I
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whole grunge from Seattle that happened,
Uh, it just didn't feel like like

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something I liked, you know.
It felt guttural and simple and uh sloppy

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on purpose. Well yeah, yeah, exactly, sloppy on purpose. And

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so it's the nineties, you know, but for was your original questions.

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So you met up with with like
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they would they they ran into the
same lifestyles. You were into it for

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spiritual reasons or into it for musical
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into with for the for the chicks
and booze, right yeah, the fire

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boy thing, yeah exactly. I
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nineties because I wasn't into that.
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went to India and which was cool
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By the nineties, everyone looked at
me as like just a simpleton.

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Why would I go to India and
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Wow, in the nineties, it
wasn't cool to go to India. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, in the sixties. In the sixties it was ect

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On YouTube, there's a an interview
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Paul Saltzman, and he just buy
Weirdness, wound up in the same ashram

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as the Beatles did in sixty eight
in India, became good friends with them,

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took pictures of them. But his
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he says, I became friends with
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pictures of them anymore. And so
that's why there isn't very many. But

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he has some good stories about their
relationships, the kind of people they were.

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He really kind of saw them on
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what I mean. Interesting. Paul
Saltzman, this is his name. Wow,

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So why don't we do this?
Why don't we take a break now,

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regroup and we'll be right back after
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show here on the Distant Thunder Radio
Network. This is mccloney. This is

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a special all music show for you
tonight. Let me introduce the members of

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the Posse Girls. One one is
here. Hello, mclee girls, Welcome

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back to the show. Also,
a good friend up there in the other

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part of New Hampshire, Barry win
Egg Barry aka troubles Hunt. How are

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you doing, Barry? I'm doing
just fine. Beatle Expertice talking to you.

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Matt Maley. A good friend out
there, Matt Malley. You know

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how long have we known each other? Matt Matt Malley of Company Cross.

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Basically how long we've known each other? At least ten years? Ten,

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twelve years? Yeah, twelve years? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, gosh,

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okay cool? And I mispronounced your
name more than half of those years,

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probably right. Why didn't you just
correct? Well, you just call

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me, Matt. So you know
you rarely say I have to say my

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last name. Now you told me
too that you you also have a dual

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Irish citizenship. Yes, proudly I
do. I have an Irish passport and

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dual citizenship. Hmm okay, grandparents
emigrated. Okay, Okay. Yet X

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who was on mistakenly earlier in the
show. He's the guy who had the

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Irish dual citizenship, but because of
me, they they made him give it

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up. Okay, I think I
might have told you that story. He

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had to go for a security check
every three or four years, and he

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put me down as his security check. So they come out to your house

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and they just asked you a bunch
of questions. I've done it a couple

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of times. And the last question
they asked me as they're leaving was why

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does he go to Ireland so much? And I said, well, I

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think he has a dual citizenship and
they said, well, you know a

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lot of people have that. They
don't go over there a couple times a

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year. So I said, well, his family owns a castle over there,

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which they do. They did,
did they did? Okay, Well,

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they made him give up his dual
citizenship because of his security glance because

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the family used to own a castle
and that was the only reason. So

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by the time he caught up with
me, he says, yeah, thanks

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a lot, Hey, thank you
Mark. Yeah. Well, anyway,

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also in the studio with us tonight, no belly button man. Yes on

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the drums cutting the actors. They
say, that's cutting the actors, right,

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Yeah. And also the lovely Lowis
Lane Lowis. Hi, everybody,

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It's nice to be here. So
I'm just gonna throw out a few things,

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just talking purely about music tonight,
and I just want to throw a

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couple of things out. We're talking
about the Beatles earlier and watching that guy's

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YouTube video about how he just wound
up. He was their age who he's

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twenty two years old, this Canadian. His girlfriend had left him so he

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had to go find himself and he
went to this ashern and while they were

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there, they wrote forty two songs, and a lot of them wound up

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on the White album, as it
turns out. So the question is how

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long did they stay in the ash
room? Is the summer of sixty eight?

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Okay, Well, it's open ended. It's not going to be a

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multiple choice no, no, no, this isn't a it's not a triba

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and just who knows. I was
surprised when I heard the answer. Just

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take a guess. Not as long
as probably we'd think. They wrote forty

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two songs. I guess four weeks, four weeks, eight weeks. It

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wasn't the year now, eight weeks, eight weeks. Yeah, all right,

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couples until John got irritated. Allegedly
it's something the maharishi did well.

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Ringo was the first to leave because
his wife had a bug phobia. She

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had a real problem with the bugs
there and he had to yeah, sanitize

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the hot every night before she did
kind of get sleep, and he had

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stubbing troubles and the food didn't really
agree with him. So he left.

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And then a week later the rest
of them left, and I think they

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was scheduled to leave them. But
they did leave on this kind of bad

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note because they accused of Maa Harishi
of hitting on Mia Farrell's sister, who

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is the subject of Dear Prudence the
song. But there's some controversy wherever any

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of that ever happened to, so
yeah, but an interest interest that they

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went literally up in the Himalayas close
to them and writing in an entire double

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album in two months. So,
Matt, when you went to India?

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Where did you go? H?
I've been to Delhi, Nagpur, Mumbai,

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Jaipour. I've been up in the
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which is about a ten thousand feet
north of Delhi. And I've been

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all around. I haven't been to
South India or Kolkatta, Okay, but

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it's to have you have any of
you guys ever been there? Any guys

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are girl. It's a shock the
first time you go, the when the

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plane door opens and the heat comes
in, and the smells and the and

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the poverty level. But then you
start to settle in there, and your

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relationship with matter starts to relax.
Like they don't paint a building unless unless,

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I mean they just don't paint a
building, and the and if a

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car is working, it doesn't have
to be in perfect shape. Like here,

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if somebody keys your car, you
you can't sleep that night. But

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their relationship with matter is so much
healthier. You know, Uh, you

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realize you've been sort of duped.
I realize I've been duped to thinking everything

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has to be in perfect condition around
me, you know. And that was

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my one of my first lessons of
India and seeing how even though there's poverty,

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people are still decent and and then
away happier, very cerebral people.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Food
is tremendous food six six four six thousand

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years in the making, four thousand
and six thousand and so they got it

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dialed in by now. Yeah yeah, yeah, wow. But but but

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it's obviously they do have at the
very least a noble population problem, right

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yeah. Yeah, it's way over
a billion now, it was a billion

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in the nineties, probably getting the
two billion. So the poverty is shocking,

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you know, but again it's it's
a you gotta see it if you

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get a chance. Yeah, yeah, to Deli. Delhi's got a McDonald's,

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so it's the kind of a gateway
from we'll take care of them,

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right wow, huh interesting, Okay, so sure hamburger is at McDonald's.

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I thought beef was a problem as
far as he think it. That's if

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you're I think, if you're Hindu, or if I don't know, if

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there's half vegetarians and half not.
And but they're very spect you can't get

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rid of the spice. You have
a McDonald's hamburger and it's going to burn

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your mouth because there there's a little
music store in Deli that I would frequent

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in the nineties, and in the
foyer when you come to this music store

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is a picture of the owner with
the Beatles selling George Harrison his first sitar.

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It's called Ricky Rohms and Deli.
And then you look over and there's

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the same guy, a little bit
older now and he's sitting behind his desk

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smiling at you like, yeah,
that's me, you know, finding George's

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citar, and the Beatles are looking
like they do on Beetles six, and

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they're just all standing around him getting
the first sitar, and it's just mind

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blowing. Wow. That is wow, that is crazy. Wow. Yeah,

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let me just throw another thing in
here. We're talking about the Beatles.

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True of falls. John Lennon hated
cats. No, that's false.

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He was a cat person. Yeah, hmmm, yeah, he loved cats,

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loved cats. He was definitely a
cat person. He also used to

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travel with his what they used to
call those motor track things that kids had,

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the little race cast slot racing,
remember slot racing. Yeah, he

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had a he had a huge slot
racing set up that he would set up

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a lot of places. He brought
it with him for the heads at Sullivan

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Show and uh set it up in
his hotel room. Yeah. Like they

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were kind of electrically pow wo race
cars that would go like Aurora set right

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like that. Yeah, yeah,
yea of all the things you've learned,

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you learned the hard way, by
the way, not to take the curves

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too fat. Yeah, you wind
up spanishing the car against the wall.

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He brought that whole set up and
in pieces and set it up. Yeah,

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doesn't sound doesn't sound like him,
but yes, And just hearing the

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notes, have you heard the story
about Kyle Palmer's drum set Kyle Palmer's Kyle

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Palmer ELPA And remember and when they
were Atomic Rooster, Yeah, originally,

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And I got a couple of Atomic
Rooster albums. I remember those back in

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like seventy seventy one, seventy two, right, And wasn't he he was

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in Asia too, I think wasn't
he the drummer for Asia? Yeah?

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So anyway, so when ELP was
at the height of their powers, the

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just about the start of American tour
and the British Steel Corporation or whatever came

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to him and they said, we
would like to sponsor and we would like

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to build you a drum set for
you to take on the road, maybe

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all steal and you know when you
can just as a good promotionals thing for

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us. So he says, yeah, sure, why not. So at

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this time he had like about forty
drums and huge set up and they called

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them once and they said, what
what wid do you want to steal on

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the drums? What with you wanted
a half inch? You wanted a quarter

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inch and eighth inches? He's like, what do I know? So he

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told them at half inch and the
thing like came out to weigh eighteen puns

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and they needed the hole. They
needed like separate track the trailer tracks just

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to haul the drums around for the
tour. I think probably seventy two US.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a funny guy. He's

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the guy who once again, there's
a really good documentary on ELP on YouTube,

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has some mus on it, but
he's kind of like the narrator.

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He says, I'm the guy who
stood in the middle of those two nuts,

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you know, Keith Emerson and Greg
Greig Lake. Ye so uh anyway,

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both may rest in peace. So
they were awesome of players. Our

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friend Mike Poolan, here has been
no cures to sign like Greg greg Lake

406
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,440
was like one of the best rock
voices my pin. Didn't someone tell you?

407
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:06,440
Yeah, real rich get right on
that there, very full rich boys.

408
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:11,319
Yeah yeah, almost like your strained
almost. Uh let's see for us.

409
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,200
Yeah, I loved him. I
loved him the most with King Crimson.

410
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:21,039
But let's face it, that guy
was was a good front man for

411
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,240
any band. And he has for
me, the best Christmas song ever.

412
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,279
Yeah, oh yeah, best Christmas
song ever. When I hear that out

413
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,960
on the radio or a serious XM
satellite, it's like that's it. Also

414
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:42,759
still you turn me on as a
really good song, very well put together,

415
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,480
and yeah yeah yeah. We saw
them once a long time ago in

416
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:53,400
Boston Hobo lights, and they were
good. They were crazy and and just

417
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:59,119
on cue Keith Everson's you know keyboard
caught on fire and they had to come

418
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:00,160
out and put it out of you
know, when anyone thought it was a

419
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,200
bit because they used to do those
things. But all right, so I'm

420
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,599
going to do I'm going to go
round the horn here. I'm going to

421
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,960
start with you, Matt, So, what song do you listen to?

422
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:16,680
Let's call it a guilty pleasure that
we would be astonished that you actually like

423
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:22,680
listen to, like an achie song
or something like that. Never my Love

424
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:30,279
by the Association, an awesome song. Good song. Oh yeah, that's

425
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,319
the association. Does that mean it's
not good? No? Yeah, no,

426
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:39,920
that was good good, that's a
beautiful excellent vocalists. Remember a little

427
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,319
while ago, really, yeah,
they had some they were big, they

428
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,759
were a big, big, big
band boy in the late sixties and yeah,

429
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,599
go ahead, you know it would
get you laughed at. Walk on

430
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:55,519
by by Dionne Warwick. Yeah,
very well, put together good, Brett

431
00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:05,079
Backer beautiful yep. Yeah. She
was the best interpreter of back backreck music,

432
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,079
Backreck David music. Yep. Ever
yeah, I know, I know.

433
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:15,000
And with that success spawned the the
British version of R and B with

434
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,279
Sylla Black and Dusty Springfield taking out
some of that tunes. Yeah, I

435
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,440
have appreacha and they did very well
with him. Uh huh. Wow,

436
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,640
there's a huge Dusty Springfield there.
We should ask Barry if he has either

437
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,240
one of those songs on this jukebox. I'm going to ask about shoebox just

438
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,079
I'll bring it up now. Barry
has an incredible juke box and it's filled

439
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,000
with incredible songs. What what kind
of juke boxes it for? I know

440
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,880
you were it took you a while
to rebuild it, right, yes it

441
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200
did. And and by the way, just just so you don't think I'm

442
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,039
an amazing guy, Uh, there
was a guy. Uh there is a

443
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:58,079
man named Bob Trotty or an andover
a mass and he's the one who actually

444
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:02,599
got her working again. God knows
we So it's a c burg a Y

445
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:10,280
one sixty, which means it plays
eighty records, two sides. It's nineteen

446
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,440
sixty one. It's the only thing
in the house older than me, but

447
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,679
only slightly. Wow. First year
of stereo sound and last year of visible

448
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,039
mechanism. And I swear to god, I don't understand why they ever made

449
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:32,760
a jukebox where you could not see
the record being played. You don't know.

450
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,599
How do they turn into furniture guys? Yeah, but they did.

451
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,239
I don't know. But watching the
record play, watching the records like the

452
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,679
yea grabs it puts it. It's
vertical, puts it, puts the horizontal

453
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:54,159
tonam comes down, hits it right
on the mark. Bingo bango. Some

454
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:59,079
of them play, some of them
play. The mechanics. It's so mechanical.

455
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,000
It's unbelievable how it all works.
I mean, to watch it work

456
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,320
is half the fun, you know, I don't. I don't know why

457
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,440
they would cover that up. So
so tell us some of the you had.

458
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,639
I know you have a Beatles forty
five from Uruguay in there, right,

459
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,639
Yeah, Well, actually no,
I have. I have a couple

460
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:22,480
of albums from Uruguay. I have
Abbey Roads from Uruguay, and I have

461
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:29,920
Yellow Submarine Soundtrack from Uruguay. But
my son from Tokyo came with a couple

462
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,599
of things from me that were on
the Odeon label. So that's Japan.

463
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,000
He brought me I Feel Fine and
She Loves You m m. That was

464
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:44,599
in February. That nice. Yeah, huh, yeah, I saw somewhere.

465
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:46,559
I saw it. And She Loves
You was on Swan Records here in

466
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:51,119
the United States. Yes, it
was, by the way, the cool

467
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,280
I have that, Oh do you
I do? I have the Swan releases.

468
00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:01,719
I got VJ. Releases, forty
five MLP and uh Tlly Records,

469
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,039
was P s I Love You and
Love Me do got that? And those

470
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:13,559
are the three independent labels that was
before Capitola the Capital and these guys uh

471
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:22,960
and the Swan The Swan record.
On the label, it says, don't

472
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,559
drop out of what dig up the
record for event to go up and upstairs

473
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,119
in the bed, don't drop out
of forty five cases of Life, don't

474
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:37,079
drop out of Life of school,
turn in, turn up on, tune

475
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,800
in and drop out. That's right. Yeah, it says don't drop out

476
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,679
right, all right, you're killing
me. It's a DJ thing and I

477
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,760
swear to god, I wish I
remembered what it meant. I think it's

478
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,199
because of the way it ends.
It doesn't what you would do with the

479
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,800
next might not have a fade,
Yeah, I might not have a fade.

480
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,280
Yeah that's not what That's not what
it means on the lay though.

481
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,920
But you're right about there's a dead
hippie on the label. So what's the

482
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000
expression for a cold ending? Yeah? Cold ending? Yeah, yeah,

483
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,719
heart stop Yeah. I'm gonna throw
the question lois now. But there's nothing

484
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,639
that she could thought that would embarrass
her. But what what? What song

485
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:21,599
are you listening to? THEO would
we'd be embarrassed. But Barry didn't answer

486
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,880
that question. He just started talking
about his jukebox. What's his guilty pleasure?

487
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,519
It's only a two hour show.
Go ahead, Barry, all right,

488
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,159
you don't get to answer the question, all right, So everyone in

489
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,599
Boston's gonna hate me. I am
not a big Neil Diamond fan. However,

490
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,880
what are you gonna do with Sweet
Caroline? When it gets to the

491
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,199
chorus, you have no choice.
You end up singing ye. So yes,

492
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:51,880
I have a copy of Sweet Caroline
on the juke right now, Okay,

493
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,079
whether I want to or not?
Okay, in Boston too if for

494
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,679
those of you who don't I know
what that reference is? Is that for

495
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,199
you is in the seventh inning stretch
at the Feenery Park with a Red Sox

496
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,199
play, they would play Sweet Caroline
and when they got to that point,

497
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,800
people would start singing whoa, whoa, whoa, right until Neil Diamond's business

498
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,599
people got a hold and they go, what theever is this? You've even

499
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,199
playing our song for years and years
and years with no woryalty payments. So

500
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440
they had some kind of a controversy. They came up with some figure and

501
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:28,280
Neil demon donated it to some charity
and then he did come and sing the

502
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,280
song at one time, kind of
out of the bloom. Yeah. Yeah,

503
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,639
he was nice about it. But
I admire that guy, not because

504
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,800
he made He wrote a lot of
great songs for himself. He wrote a

505
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
lot of monkey songs and songs for
other people. But he came out of

506
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,400
the Brill building. He was like
a songwriter of the Brill Building who became

507
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,079
an entertainer, you know, like
Meils Doctor and Carol King and those people.

508
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,400
You know, that's the real birthplace
for a music. It's amazing.

509
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:59,280
Yeah, the Sweet Caroline has sung
in every football stadium yeah somewhere right the

510
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,639
US cause of soccer football all over
the place in the UK and Rods do

511
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,760
it. Sang it during the Queen's
Jubilee. Wow man a couple of years

512
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,880
ago, seize the royalties? Poor, I said, what's up with Sweet

513
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,159
Caroline in the UK? Yeah?
Really, they don't do the they don't

514
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:19,719
do the well well whoa, okay, don't do it. Don't really do

515
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,199
that part? Right, Well,
we'll look at the Queens song we Will

516
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,679
Rock You it opens up every you
know, supposedly soccer game, every Hooligan

517
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,960
soccer game, and in the yeah
yeah, some places they don't let them

518
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,159
play it, so one I should
I know, I'm okay, I'm going

519
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,639
to ask you them, Lois and
then Mark, what's your what song would

520
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,559
you be embarrassed by? None of
them really? No one knew? Well,

521
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,199
okay, so a song that it's
just been on my mind a lot

522
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,280
lately because I recently heard it and
I love It's called It's Lovely Day by

523
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:05,079
Bill Withers. I think, you
know, but that's embarrassing. Yeah,

524
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:14,280
I just want to look at you
going to be I love it. But

525
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,920
the version I really like of that
is the one I don't know if anybody

526
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:29,400
saw the This is the inauguration concert, Yeah, the most recent one,

527
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:32,840
the most recent one. They have
this beautiful version because they had to do

528
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:42,360
everything virtually and I forgot the name
of the singer who does it. But

529
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,639
it's just a beautiful version and the
picture, you know, the video that

530
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:47,599
goes with it is just lovely,
all these people dancing to it. So

531
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,639
anyway, I kind of I will
look that up once in a while and

532
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,840
just rewatch it. But a song
that would be embarrassing to tell people I

533
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,159
like and apparently I'm going to do
that now I think you already have,

534
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,480
but go ahead. It's the song
Wake me up before you go go oh

535
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,400
oh, I love it. I
love it because I just want to dance

536
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,199
a grand fan. You're a fan, well, you know, oh my

537
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,320
god, I haven't run. It's
so fun right. Well and has the

538
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,039
T shirt? Yeah, huh,
I don't get his T shirt. He's

539
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,400
going wow. Let me just really
quickly tell you the bill with his song,

540
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:29,719
do you know the bill with a
story? You know what happened how

541
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,440
he became famous. No, so
he was just some construction where a car

542
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,440
worker, I believe, autoworker,
and taught himself how to play the guitar.

543
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,400
And at the time, there was
a show on This is really sixties

544
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,039
now called Room two twenty two and
it was about like an in a city,

545
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,400
you know, teacher's drama. There
was a woman on it that show,

546
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,119
by the way, her name was
Denise Nichols, and she was she

547
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,000
was like the star, the female
star, and he fell in love with

548
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:05,119
her, became a musician, became
you know, uh popular to just for

549
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,000
that to meet her to get the
chance to meet her, He meets her,

550
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,079
they get married, and then the
divorced like about nine months later.

551
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:19,719
What that one? In the middle
of that one, one was showing us

552
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,400
his whim album. So if a
whim album or was a whim t shirt,

553
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,880
he's got the album. Wow,
make it, make it, make

554
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,920
it, make it big boy?
How long they spend on that title to

555
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,719
three seconds? Make it big?
Really? He's a sad guy, yeah,

556
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,400
he was? Ever did go ahead? Careless whisper a huge, huge

557
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,079
whisper. It reminds me of a
love relationship I had and I kind of

558
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:51,400
really uh sort of blew her off. And it's that if you watch that

559
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:58,280
video and listen to that story.
Wow, okay, it's like I still

560
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,239
get into tears when I see when
I see or hear careless Whisper. Really

561
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,239
yeah, huh okay, A long
version. Yeah, there's there's too many

562
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,760
jokes they had account so we're not
going to go into any of them.

563
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,039
But it was too bad to the
way that that guy into because he actually

564
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:17,559
had a lot of big hits.
What's judge Michael and didn't had but but

565
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:21,440
he was you know, he had
his own personal demons let's say, and

566
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,880
when he died, his mother was
a nurse and he gave like some astronomical

567
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,719
amount of money to the nurse's charity
fund of the UK, like a million

568
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,440
dollars or something. Almost all his
money to these people. His mother used

569
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,119
to worry for us. He couldn't
have been that bad of a guy.

570
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,800
But that show biz. Do you
ever meet him? Mate, Matt Did

571
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:47,039
you ever meet judge Michael Whim?
Didn't meet anybody Whim I met? There's

572
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:54,159
still time playne do you member?
I was. I was backstage. We

573
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:58,320
were getting ready to start the load
out, and the load out was going

574
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:05,159
to commence right after the the encore. Just gather around and uh, you

575
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:07,000
know, you know you're going to
be watching the encore. You're gonna be

576
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:12,440
backstage, gready to go to work. And George Mike was back there for

577
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,840
a while and I just said George. He said he was just chilling,

578
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,920
you know, And then he went
on and did an encourse like awesome.

579
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,840
He said, what did he say, Michael, don'tmost be in the eye.

580
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:32,000
Uh some really sexy tunes back in
the nineties. Yes, very successful

581
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:36,800
guy, Yeah, no doubt about
it. Let me just I remember when

582
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,960
I worked at the radio station,
I used to play Father Figure a lot.

583
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,639
There's something about it that the musical, the musicality of it was really

584
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,719
good, really good production. Well
there's a lot of yeah, yep.

585
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:50,199
I mean just talking real quick about
the sixties and the seventies. I mean

586
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,800
we used to you turn on the
radio AM radio, you'd hear the Beatles,

587
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
the Stones, but then you'd hear
Louis Armstrong, you'd hear Motown,

588
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,079
you'd hear her of Albert, you'd
hear her everything, Franks everything, you

589
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,199
know, And the f M radio
kind of ruined that way in a way

590
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,280
because from radio, you know,
put everything in kind of you know boxes

591
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,039
as they say, and put it
in demographic category. Yeah, and its

592
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:15,239
just but it never was it that
kind of general and you get to kind

593
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,039
of like everything, which was kind
of cool. So Mark Pullman, what

594
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:27,679
song would you listen to that we'd
be embarrassed, mister dying by the critics?

595
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,159
Yeah, I remember a little Yeah, yeah, whent' they a local

596
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:40,320
band went They from Saleing or someplace. Teddy and the Pandas were from TV,

597
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,400
right, yeah, huh okay,
Well that is embarrassing. Give yourself.

598
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:52,960
Yeah, wow. Okay, so
it didn't come to me yet,

599
00:45:54,559 --> 00:46:04,159
you know it did not? All
what do you got so favorite song?

600
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,719
People would be surprised by that.
My number one favorite song, my number

601
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,679
one favorite song, believe it or
not, is a disco inferno by the

602
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Tramps. I love that song.
Matt, you gotta go with me in

603
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,440
general. No, no, no, that's a great bassline, isn't it,

604
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Matt? You know that song?
I mean that was I haven't closely,

605
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,239
but it is a good song.
Yeah, yeah, it was just

606
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,159
a good disco song. Then the
and I know that because it's the when

607
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,599
I joined is it Piandora? What
is that? Uh? That music service

608
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Spotify? That's the first song I
bought I got okay, And the second

609
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:45,480
was Crazy Trained by Ossie Osbourne,
which is also an excellent song. Remember

610
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:51,320
bj Thomas do you remember that guy
in my head? But he also sang

611
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:58,559
that ye New York Woman, New
York Woman he did, which was really

612
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:05,000
good. And then there was another
song called Well. He did a bunch

613
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:07,760
of songs and sometimes I listen to
those songs. Maybe it's just to bring

614
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,679
me back to that time, but
wow, that is But I also like

615
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:17,559
like venture songs. My brother used
to play Ventures music before the Beatles even

616
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,559
came out, and so I like
that kind of out of limits and the

617
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,679
twilight Zone theme and that kind of
stuff. Walk Don't Run, Walk Don't

618
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:31,199
Run had an album. I had
a vinyl album called Play Guitar with the

619
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,280
Ventures. Oh yeah, sure,
we had that record set and I lost

620
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,559
it. I don't know what.
I don't know what happened to it.

621
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:38,960
I tried it. It didn't work, a good record. And they had

622
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:45,400
the sheet music, but in the
simplified the sheet music, you could play

623
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,960
the lead part, the bass line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

624
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,239
like songs they were doing, remember
that. I like about four songs that

625
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,840
the right and then we'd actually they
would play the song without the bass,

626
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,599
and people say, what's the and
I understand, Well, you hear a

627
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:02,760
song about the bass, you know
what the basis. You know what I

628
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,000
mean. And if you hear a
song without a rhythm guitar, you know

629
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:07,760
what it is. You know,
it's just that one. They're all put

630
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,320
together. So uh time, I'm
putting it all together. Why don't we

631
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,159
do this, Why don't we take
a quick right now and we'll be right

632
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,639
back after this. You're listening to
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633
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642
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Welcome back, and we went to
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657
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658
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In all musical show Girls, the version

659
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most one one to see Hello,
Hello girls, Hello everybody, Glad to

660
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be here, glad to be anywhere. Good friend Barry will in the AKA

661
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is here, Barry, how you
doing. I'm doing fine. I'm doing

662
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fine, counting music. Also in
the studio with us is the very very

663
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,639
lovely Lowest Lane. I get time
time when I think of you, my

664
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,559
dear Hi, everybody. It's nice
to be here for this all musical extravaganza

665
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,760
and cutting the act for us as
Mac Poling aka No Belly Button Man.

666
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Hey all doing? Uh? How
you about all week? When you let

667
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:49,480
the drums you're talking for It's all
I have to do right pay for anyway.

668
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,800
Also with us is a good friend
out there in l A Matt Malley,

669
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,840
Matt, how you doing? Doing
good? Having fun? That this

670
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,880
one that stops being fun? Then
we can wrap the show. So you

671
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:05,599
have a video on YouTube where you're
doing an Irish song, piano song.

672
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,239
It's very nice. You almost have
an Irish accent to what's the name of

673
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:14,159
that song again, It's called the
Hills of Green Moore. And I'm a

674
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:19,239
folk fanatic of UK, you know
right where one is now the music of

675
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,079
the sixties and seventies like Fairpoaugh,
Convention and steel Ie Spanel. That's my

676
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,079
religion, my musical religion. Yeah, yeah, And so I got a

677
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:30,920
piano recently, and I just started
playing the songs I love on the piano.

678
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,239
So I did a version of Well. I did a homage to Steeleye

679
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,280
SPAN's version of the Hills of Green
Moore. It's a two hundred year old

680
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,840
song, and I put it on
YouTube. I rarely put things on YouTube,

681
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,519
but I put it up there.
So how long Now you're a really

682
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:49,480
good bass player, does that help
you in learning how to play the piano?

683
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,280
Yeah, honestly, the piano came
first. I was learning piano in

684
00:52:53,320 --> 00:53:00,320
nineteen seventy at seven years old,
and I was learning classical music on piano

685
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:02,719
and I absolutely hated it, and
I quit after a couple of years.

686
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,760
And they told me you're gonna regret
it, and they were right. I

687
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,239
should have stayed with it. But
piano was my instrument first, right,

688
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,639
Okay, all right? So how
long does it take you to put together

689
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,719
a song like that? I mean, is it a day or a week,

690
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,800
a month? I took a couple
of weeks, maybe three weeks,

691
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,199
playing it all the time every day, trying to work it out because it's

692
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,559
arranged for guitar originally. So so
I've been kind of doing folk arrangements on

693
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:30,039
piano. So thinking of ultimately having
a YouTube channel of just folk piano arrangements,

694
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,760
that'd be good. So the reason
I ask is, you know,

695
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,159
we see pond of your house there
and you looking at it. You live

696
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:42,000
in a very cool pad as it
looks like in the background there, So

697
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,440
tell us a little bit about your
house because it had an interesting previous owner.

698
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:50,400
Yeah. The last guy that owned
it as a very famous recording engineer

699
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,440
who passed away named Bruce Swedeen,
and he's engineered Michael Jackson records. He's

700
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,119
recorded Barbara Streissan, Paul McCartney.
So he had built a free standing studio

701
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,480
building on the property. It's five
acres our property, so about the size

702
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,360
of an aircraft carrier. So yeah, So Bruce, I talked to him

703
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,920
once about ten twelve years ago because
he left a plate reverb in the attic

704
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,639
of the studio and asked him if
he wanted it, but he told me

705
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:22,760
he couldn't get it out unless we
did demolition on the ceiling. We could

706
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,920
get it down, and that was
the last I talked to him because I

707
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,039
didn't want to pay for demolition of
the house either. Inherited a plate reverb,

708
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,960
So the studio was still there.
And did he record Michael Jackson there?

709
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,760
Did he mix him or you know, I think he did mixing in

710
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,840
that place. I'm not sure if
Michael's ever been there. There's a book

711
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,119
he wrote called Make Mine Music by
Bruce Whitten, and there's a on one

712
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:52,719
of the pages it's got him sitting
right outside of my studio with David Hasselhoff

713
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,280
of all people. Yes, David
Hasselhoff, Yes, yes, So he

714
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,440
mixed David Hasselhoff's records. David apparently
a huge in Austria and as a recording

715
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:07,400
artist, and he recorded his records
I guess here at my property back in

716
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,079
the nineties. Well okay, yeah, well that's good. And and I've

717
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:19,719
been reading just lately, you know, books by producers and engineers and mixes

718
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,719
and and an engineer, especially as
it turns out, it's very important to

719
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,199
how the record turns out. You
know, people think of the producer and

720
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:30,119
you can see that, but the
sound comes from the engineer, now I

721
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:35,000
can see that. And especially the
Bealls engineers. You know, they've written

722
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,000
a couple of books. But I'm
reading this one by Bill I forget.

723
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,800
I'm not even sure how you spent
say his name Bill Sweeten, Swezen.

724
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,880
He did a lot of total records. He did Pablo Cruz, you know,

725
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,480
he was back in that era.
Just a lot of the anecdotes about

726
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:53,360
you know how you know, you
can argue with the producer, you can

727
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,599
argue with the band, you can
argue with the song, but the engineering

728
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:00,760
has to be just right. If
it doesn't, I'm good and it's not

729
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,800
going to go anywhere, you know, so interesting, Yeah, yeah,

730
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,440
Well, and what do you think
of Michael Jackson? Matt, I mean,

731
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,880
what do you think of his music? Well, I've fallen in love

732
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,639
with a song of his called Man
in the Mirror, and as a recorded

733
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,679
piece of music, I think it's
one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

734
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:24,280
And also he invented that hole grunner. For everyone from Justin Timberlake to

735
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:31,840
Beyonce, they have Michael Jackson to
think for inventing that is right. Yeah,

736
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,360
I mean, he's just you know, I mean the Widow beyond Words.

737
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,639
But he also did a song when
he did Off the Wall with Quincy

738
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Jones, is a really good album
and there's a lot of kind of innovative

739
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,119
stuff in that and there's a lot
of really good songs on that. Off

740
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:52,440
the Wall is a really good song, you know, and that was like

741
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:55,199
before he really like hit big big. You know, he was big,

742
00:56:55,239 --> 00:57:00,320
but he wasn't big yet, you
know. Yeah, And I think that's

743
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,599
you know, I've listened to that
album a few times and really well put

744
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:07,280
together. Quincy Jones. You can
you know, hear his touch in it

745
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,760
and stuff, and just a lot
of a lot of what we would call

746
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,519
harmonies, but it's Michael Jackson just
kind of providing his own harmonies and the

747
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,039
yipping and stuff and very well done, you know, really well done.

748
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,039
Well. Yeah, is that the
one with rock with you? Right?

749
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:27,239
Yeah, that's a great song.
Yeah, yeah, before you hit it

750
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,679
really big. Yeah yeah, MTV
and you really kind of put them over

751
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:35,239
the top. And there's some that's
the thriller out that we're talking about Off

752
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:38,519
the Wall, the one before Off
the Wall, okay, and it's Quincy

753
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:43,840
Jones a thriller as well, didn't
he get yeah oh yeah, oh yeah,

754
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,000
I mean that was his. I
mean they came up not together.

755
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:49,920
Quincy Jones was well known about.
Quincy Jones. Didn't really that he also

756
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,639
hit it big on that stuff,
but it became too not dance oriented,

757
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:59,480
but he became too electronic or something. You know when off the Wall they

758
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,800
have everything in there. There's real
Hans, his banjo's and you know that

759
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,800
kind of stuff. You know,
he put that kind of music together.

760
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,880
And I know, I think most
of Thriller was done on since a couple

761
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,199
of you know, I'm so and
there's a tree on in Neverland where he

762
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,960
used to or so he said,
would climb up in the tree and write

763
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,960
his songs, you know, and
I'm sure to him too, they'd say,

764
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,280
hey, we need a new single
whatever, and he this tree and

765
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,920
come up with the songs and come
up with the bahamanees and stuff. And

766
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,239
and someone figured out that he wrote
more than a billion dollars worth of music

767
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,360
sitting on that tree. You know. Too bad. He wasn't a normal

768
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,599
guy, you know what I mean
to me, he just couldn't have been

769
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:42,719
a good guy and not a freak. He'd be like Smoking Robinson or someone.

770
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,639
He'd be revered, you know.
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

771
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:49,800
okay to be a little weird,
but to be a child molester, that

772
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,679
it's true, and that's that's actually
a monster. Yeah, And he's yeah,

773
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,840
and that was like the beginning of
it too, and not the beginning

774
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,679
of it that's really bad. But
he's just a strange guy, you know.

775
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,360
And and I'm gonna I don't mean
to jump in, but that actually

776
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,239
cries out for I think a normal
like a normal childhood. Yeah way,

777
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,920
And I wonder who he would have
been with if he had had a normal

778
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:20,280
childhood, right, maybe some normal
friends in the business that looking just out

779
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,599
to hang on with him. And
this, you know, money from the

780
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:30,599
guy by you like, Prince seemed
to be in the same boat as far

781
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:37,280
as not having the right acquaintances the
people helping him. He had people that

782
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,039
were hurting him, not helping him. And Michael Jackson I think was in

783
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:43,320
the same boat was father. Michael
Jackson's father is you know, he's the

784
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,599
he's the one that you know,
is responsible for a lot of that because

785
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,800
you know, he treated those kids, I mean, the Jackson five.

786
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,440
You know, they were basically stage
kids from you know, when they were

787
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,199
the little kids, and they made
it, you know what I mean.

788
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,000
And that's the thing is that they
actually made it. Was just made them

789
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,559
monster, even even kind of worse. It's the same as Mary Wilson and

790
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:07,719
the Beach Boys. You know,
that guy was a real great a prick

791
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,960
man, but he created the Beach
Boys. I mean, you know,

792
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:15,599
it's it's it's kind of strange how
sometimes that happens. But and look at

793
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:21,440
Brian Wilson, you know, he's
a mess. So there's a documentary on

794
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,000
Netflix about Robbie Williams. Do you
know about that at all? Yeah,

795
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:27,920
no, he's no, I don't
know. He's in the UK, right,

796
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,039
He's a UK singer. He was
huge in the UK and just didn't

797
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:35,599
make it in America. It's okay, late nineties up until about twenty ten,

798
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:37,920
and he would sell out stadiums by
himself. He started off and take

799
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,639
that the boy band from the UK
Oh okay, yeah, I remember that.

800
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,840
And then Robbie left and became a
superstar. And he's very authentic as

801
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,599
a character as a personality, and
he's talking about how he didn't know who

802
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:52,880
is his best friends are and why
are they his friends? And who does

803
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,519
he trust? So that's the first
mind screw you know of that kind of

804
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,880
fame. Start to feel a bone, I guess, yeah, yeah,

805
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:06,119
especially when you're start young too.
That's another thing you know. I mean,

806
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:08,440
look at Britney Spears for instance.
Yeah, she went nuts after ten

807
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:14,480
years and she started as a kid. Yeah it's it's as you say,

808
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:17,079
Mad, It's not when you think
it is. Yeah. I'm just a

809
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:22,320
bass player in a nineties major label
band. I'm not even anywhere near the

810
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,519
level of superstardom, but I got
a taste of what the machine does and

811
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:30,000
what they do to you. They
put you on the road and make you

812
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:35,000
work. You know, fun again, it's fun for about three months,

813
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:43,800
but the ten years after that it
suck. Counting Crows some fantastic success.

814
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:57,480
When when Counting Crows Jane's addiction Allison
Chang, Yeah, you know, mixed

815
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,360
in with that, I'm going,
hey, mister Jones, I could listen

816
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,199
to that song all day long.
You probably got sick of playing it.

817
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,960
I loved it. Yeah, it's
a good song in the first record is

818
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,679
a good record. So I listened
to that record a lot. I listened

819
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:15,119
to that. I have that on
Spotify too, and so when that comes

820
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,880
on, I always listened to it, and I always remember you saying play

821
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:22,480
the bass behind the beat, and
I can hear that and I almost understand

822
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:28,239
that now. But it makes the
sound. It makes the song like groovy.

823
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,400
You know, it's a little more
swing or something. You know,

824
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,639
if you're just a little bit behind
and all behind the drums, they are

825
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:38,400
just almost late with the drum.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. It's

826
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,079
funny. But when you listen to
it isn't like you're doing it. It's

827
01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:45,639
like that's the way the song goes. So that's another thing I just want

828
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:50,519
to throw a while, so sorry. YouTube video on. I think his

829
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:52,960
name is Teddy Todsco. He was
one of the Wrecking Crew. He was

830
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,679
a guitar player for the Wrecking Crew. I hope I said his name right.

831
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,239
But his son has a film out
and now they've broken it up into

832
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:06,639
YouTube segments. And the record crew
was interesting for people don't know. It's

833
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:10,280
like in the early sixties there were
bands like well we're talking about the Association,

834
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:16,360
the Beach Boys and Sunny and Cheer
and everybody where if they might be

835
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,199
a band. But the record company
was like, we're not going to waste

836
01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:23,559
money in these garage players playing these
songs. Bring them in. And the

837
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:28,039
record crew is this bunch of session
musicians and they would come up with the

838
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:34,599
song like that. The whole sound
of the Beach Boys is the record crew

839
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,679
is basically Carol Kay and bass.
You know that's that's kind of like the

840
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:45,239
Beach the Beach Boys sound, you
know, So do you so in Hal

841
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Blaine, who was the drummer.
You know, someone said, you know,

842
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,039
I realized when I met hal Blaine
he was like, you know,

843
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:55,840
all of my top ten drummers.
You know, he would play different styles

844
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:02,360
and so on. But the Monkey
is on the one someone went Taggedlong too

845
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,400
a monkey session and the Wrecking Crew
is playing the music. At that point,

846
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,039
the secret was out. So my
question is, Matt, I'm gonna

847
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:15,440
throw to you for us. Was
that wrong? Was that for them not

848
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,320
to say that other people are playing
the music? Is that right? Wrong?

849
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:24,920
It was a different era, you
know, it was before bands became

850
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:30,079
bands where you really in fact,
it was before the singer songwriter era where

851
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:34,840
the songwriter people the artists wrote their
own songs. The early sixties was before

852
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,920
that, Like you said, the
Brill Building and Carol King and James Taylor

853
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,440
and you know, Neil Diamond.
They would write songs for people so they

854
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,559
could go out and sing their songs, and all the songwriters got rich and

855
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:54,280
all the artists got famous, and
all of a sudden you got Jim Crochey,

856
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,719
James Taylor, actually, you know
Cat Stevens. Around nineteen seventy everyone

857
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,239
started, all the artists started to
write their own songs. Yeah yeah,

858
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:10,239
sure, yeah yeah. But the
people like the Wrecking Crew were from an

859
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,519
era where you know, these guys
can play this music way better than the

860
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:17,679
band, right, and quicker and
cheaper and yeah, good done. Quicker

861
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:21,000
and cheaper because studio time is money, so they go in and knock it

862
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:26,639
out. That's why they were called
the Wrecking Crew. And the songs were

863
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:30,480
completely awesome. They were always awesome. It sounded different. So you take

864
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,679
this same band now and they do
all the Beach Boys song okay, which

865
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:36,599
in the Beach Boys you see them
play live and they're not that bad bad,

866
01:05:36,719 --> 01:05:40,079
but you know this is where they
kind of get this sound. The

867
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:45,519
same band plays Macantha Park, literally
the same band the people. That's how

868
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:48,599
good they were, you know.
And someone said, they said, you

869
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,320
don't win there just because these guys
can play it. You go in there

870
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,119
because they'll put the song together for
you, like they will arrange the song

871
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:59,519
for you, which is you know, also very architect. Your the architect

872
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:02,079
is the word. Yes, yeah, yeah. Campbell was part of the

873
01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:08,119
record like Campbell. Yeah, it
was a great guitar and Captain the Captain

874
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:11,400
of Captain toil Sonny and Cheer.
They were there all the time singing on

875
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,519
stuff. I love that documentary where
the bassic player was named Carolka. How

876
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:21,639
she dreamed up that opening bassline for
Glenn Campbell. Was that Lineman of the

877
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:29,800
County which yet yeah boom boom boom
yep. Yeah, it's also one of

878
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,599
the great songs of all times,
those songs, those those Jimmy web songs.

879
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:36,599
We saw Jimmy Webb in concert once. Lois and I that guy,

880
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:42,639
he's the most He has the most
terrible voice. To go on stage with

881
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,199
that voice is takes a lot of
balls, man, a lot of really

882
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:50,079
good songs, good stories in between. He can't sing with ship man.

883
01:06:50,199 --> 01:06:54,960
He's and we met him after was
he's kind of a funny guy from the

884
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:57,920
South Texas County. You know,
funny guy he was. He was good,

885
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,440
but he was a little quirky.
But man, those songs Wichita Lineman.

886
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,840
By the time I get the feet
he didn't write down. Uh,

887
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,800
he had two or three of them
up Galveston, another great song just and

888
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:13,440
he was such a great guitar player
too. But I'm going to bury you

889
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:16,000
O, the you O the uh. You're the conscience here on one of

890
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:19,639
them? Is it is? It? Is it with the Monkey's wrong for

891
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,599
not letting people know that they didn't
pay their play their instruments. Now I'm

892
01:07:25,639 --> 01:07:30,000
gonna go I'm gonna go with what
Matt said. I think going back then,

893
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:35,239
I don't know how much was expected
of them. I mean, people

894
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:41,440
weren't purists like they are now.
Remember how upset we all got over Milly

895
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:45,960
Vanelli. Because by the time you
get to that point, more is expected.

896
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:50,800
Whereas back when the Monkeys did what
they did, I don't think much.

897
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:56,119
I don't think that much was expected. I don't really think anybody cared

898
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:01,639
until uh, they were starting to
announce a tour with Jimmy Hendrix supporting the

899
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:09,400
tour open for them and put that
ticket together. He knew that, knew

900
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:16,960
that he was a songwriter Ronstad and
the Stone Ponies. I believe, yes,

901
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,159
yep, I saw that that's actually
a different, different drum right,

902
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:28,800
Yeah, Mike Netmuth, Mike Nes
Sorry, Mike he was legit. Yeah,

903
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,680
he was a songwriter before they joined. Yeah, I saw them in

904
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,079
concert. I told you that they
opened for the Doors. I saw the

905
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:40,920
Doors in nineteen sixty nine or seventy
at the old Beacon Theater in Boston and

906
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,439
the doors weren't that good. They
weren't that good, I got to tell

907
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,039
you. And Ione was there to
hear them play Light My Fire and you

908
01:08:47,119 --> 01:08:53,439
know. But anyway, but the
opening act was Stone Ponies hit. Yeah

909
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,960
that was and maybe they were thrown
out the road, I don't know,

910
01:08:56,119 --> 01:08:59,439
but the Stone Ponies open from when
Linda ron Stat with the two guys from

911
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,840
the Eagles for her guitar players,
and she had that different drum song.

912
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,880
But she came out she was very
angelic and you know, saying like four

913
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,680
or five sons. Then she's gone, you know, a year later.

914
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,079
You know, she's like a big
star of becoming a big star. So

915
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,479
gave me goosebumps. I bought a
lot of her records and just playing them,

916
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:24,880
just looking at the album covers.
Oh yeah, okay, I'd have

917
01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:29,000
to say that some of her covers, I mean, her covers are right

918
01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:31,680
up there with the originals. Some
of her covers you're talking about saying a

919
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,880
lot. No one can hardly anyone
can pull something like that off. I

920
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,439
thought you're talking about the photo on
the cover of her album. You're talking

921
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,840
about something else. Me. Okay, all right, here's another question.

922
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,239
We gonna throw this out, true
or false, Lois, she'll be interested

923
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:58,880
in this. Rod Stewart's wife is
a cop. Yeah, wow, his

924
01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:02,880
current wife. His current wife is
a cop. She's a policewoman. And

925
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:08,880
they a little wherever they live.
And it's had herman online, you know,

926
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,479
and like the Daily Mirror or something
wand but I get it on my

927
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,279
news feed and she's got some guy
on the ground. She's coughing. Hm

928
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:21,479
hm really really yeah, Well you'd
find in the Daily Mirror or the Daily

929
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,439
Mayo. Yeah, one of those, Yeah, one of those. Yeah,

930
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,680
yeah, what an odd thing,
you know. Anyway, you know,

931
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,520
Harrison Ford is a actual rescue helicopter
pilot. So imagine being rescued by

932
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,640
Harrison Ford. Is that what he
does? Yeah? Really hmmm, Yeah,

933
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,439
that would be weird, wouldn't it. Yeah? What's his name?

934
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,199
David Lee Roth was e M T
for a long time, and I think

935
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:48,279
in New York City. His father
was a doctor and I don't know,

936
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:53,119
he was in the EMT for a
while. So these that picking this out

937
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:58,800
of you. There's going to be
this tour next summer of yeah, like

938
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,359
it's kind of like a Van Haynes
One kind of reunion or something like that

939
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,439
without those guys. And I think
Sammy and David David Lee Roth right,

940
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:13,600
that's whether they agree to it,
yep. But it's also Joe Satriani who's

941
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,399
just like way way out guitar player, mikee Only Anthony the bass player of

942
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:23,920
Van Hallen, and they wanted Jason
Bonham, who's John Bonham's son, who's

943
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:29,840
also a really good drummer. Excellent. Yeah, that's a huge inact.

944
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,920
My brother got tickets for it.
It's it's like in Austin. He's already

945
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,279
going to got the tickets. So
it's that's going to be a big tour.

946
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:43,560
We're they going to be at the
at the at the Yeah. No,

947
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,760
there was the thing that used to
be you know, Down's Twitter Center.

948
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,920
It's down the Twitter Center used to
be Great Woods. So anyway,

949
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:57,880
okay, so the Tweeter Center,
I don't know now it's called gone for

950
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:04,079
so long, okay, Twitter Tweeter
Great Woods. I'm gonna put this to

951
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:09,279
Barret. I call it Great Woods
all the time. Yeah, everyone takes

952
01:12:09,319 --> 01:12:12,960
the kids to the WC and River
Rapes down there, a great place.

953
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:18,319
We went in there one bands.
I saw Premus down there. We went

954
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:21,319
in there. I can't stand those
guys. We went in there once.

955
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:27,600
Patrick Moras, who's a friend of
ours, friend of Matt's, got us

956
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,800
tickets to a yeah show at Great
Woods. No. If you can imagine

957
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:36,039
Matt and Barry, it's a big
it's an outdoor place, probably sits I

958
01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:40,399
don't know, ten thousand and then
you sit on the lawn. It's it's

959
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,039
the big place to go. It's
a cool it's a pretty good menu.

960
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,680
So we go there and at the
time I wasn't smoking pot, but I

961
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,560
said, well, we have to
kind of enjoy ourselves, so why don't

962
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,119
we just we're going to go in
the press pot. I shouldn't tell the

963
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:59,720
story, I don't think, but
in the press pot, and we'll just

964
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:03,560
going to lose their passport because they
heard this. There you go. They

965
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,680
never say never. So we said, well, just got a bunch of

966
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,359
nips of Jack Daniels and I had
a pair of Cargo pants, so I

967
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,920
just like put them down my pockets
and stuff. Right, So we go.

968
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,920
It's my friend Mike and his friend
Red, and Red and I are

969
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,039
going to Mike is the driver.
So we think we're just going to walls

970
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:24,159
In with our press pass. Well, they're frisking the press. This is

971
01:13:24,199 --> 01:13:26,279
how this place says, right,
well, what are we going to do?

972
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:30,720
So we just drank it, you
know, We just like drank the

973
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,039
eight little nips of Jack Daniels and
then we went in and we are like

974
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,840
and then we go backstage, you
know, and they have food and more

975
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:44,479
booze there, which we don't need. But the funny part about this is,

976
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,239
so I'm just like drunk the whole
time, you know the story.

977
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,479
She's looking at me like I have
no idea. She's got the look saying,

978
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,680
I haven't heard this story before,
You'll remember it, you remember it.

979
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,039
I'm gonna work my stuff out of
this. I only heard parts.

980
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:04,279
No, here we go. So
there's a lot of really funny pots about

981
01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:08,800
this story. But anyway, at
the end of the show, at the

982
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,920
end of the show, because Patrick
gave us four passes and we only used

983
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,079
three of them, so I'm thinking
wouldn't it be good if I can give

984
01:14:19,119 --> 01:14:23,199
this pass to somebody and they can
go backstage head to meet and greet,

985
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,680
you know, after the show type
of thing. So I see this guy

986
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,039
coming along in a wheelchair. If
someone's pushing him in a wheelchair, he's

987
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:34,079
got a yes, you know,
share it on and he's been to the

988
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:38,600
show, so he's so I just
go up to the guy and I am

989
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,199
loaded, loaded, and I said, listen, I don't know if they're

990
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:45,439
going to let both of you win, but here's a press pass. Maybe

991
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,119
you can get in to see the
band with this guy. He had als,

992
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,239
so and then that was it.
I just leave them in the crowd.

993
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:57,439
And two and I go in and
we go in and you know,

994
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,600
we meet the band. So one
at the ramp and here comes the guy

995
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,199
in the wheelchair and his friend pushed
him. They let him in. He

996
01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:08,600
comes around and he comes to the
front door and it's on a ramp and

997
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,840
who comes up with John Anderson.
Okay, and this guy is like seeing

998
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,520
God for this guy. He freaks
out. But when they did it,

999
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,159
they put the wheelchair up in the
ramp and it went right, and I'm

1000
01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:24,840
like, toe you remember this one? Good. And it stayed there for

1001
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,000
like five minutes because this guy,
you know, he was like, and

1002
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:30,399
I'm not going to break this up, right, And they moved the wheelchair

1003
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:38,199
back and forth and it's like crush. Johnny asked it was he was a

1004
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:41,520
nice guy to this guy. This
guy was you know, I had seen

1005
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,720
better days, let's say, but
he was just really enthralled. And that

1006
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,079
was when I met Alan White,
and I figured I have one question to

1007
01:15:47,119 --> 01:15:50,920
ask him. So I said what
was because he played with John Lennon?

1008
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,239
And I said, what was John
Lennon like? And he said, kind

1009
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,520
of in one word? What was
John Lennon like? He says, can

1010
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,920
I use two words? I said, yeah? He said, my hero.

1011
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:04,000
Mm it's nice. I'm sorry,
what are you playing it? Anyway?

1012
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:08,399
Yeah? Yeah, that was a
moment. So any emotional plastic was

1013
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,840
a plastic on a band. One
of Alan White's best gigs. I really

1014
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,800
like. I really liked the Plastic
to a band. They were good.

1015
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,560
They made good record without the that
Live in Toronto, that album. He

1016
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,239
just saw him playing somewhere and Alan
White and John Lennon like the way he

1017
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,000
played, and so he would He
played on all you know a lot of

1018
01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:36,880
John Lennon. You know, just
look John Lennon song solo songs, and

1019
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,840
then all of a sudden he's playing
with yes where you have to really play

1020
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,000
to a huge you know, a
stadium rock you know what I mean,

1021
01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:50,359
which is kind of different, you
know. So he got he got really

1022
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:56,520
good song structures too, because Bill
Brufftt was the drummer and everyone just admire

1023
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,439
him, you know, and he
was a great jazz drummer, great drummer

1024
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,760
for that band. But Elan White
was a different kind of drum but he

1025
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,760
really kind of grew into it,
and he played a lot of synthesizer on

1026
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,600
those songs. So is it trinsic? Oh right, let's see what do

1027
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,600
we have in the magic list here? You said you were going to ask

1028
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,399
Barry sometimes I was going to ask
Barry. Okay, here we go.

1029
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:26,880
Barry. Is Brian Wilson a genius? Wow? Wow? H? I

1030
01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:31,479
call him more of a savant?
Well, how about this. Savants are

1031
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:40,399
also geniuses, So I don't I
can't imagine what it's like to produce that

1032
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:46,079
kind of music with everything he's gone
through plus through one ear. So yeah,

1033
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:53,600
he's a genius. What do you
mean? One ear definitely one.

1034
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:57,359
I didn't know that. Hey,
Matt, what do you say? I'm

1035
01:17:57,359 --> 01:18:00,159
going to go around the around the
one in this one, Matt. Is

1036
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:08,479
he a genius? Bryan Wilson,
Yes, but but I agree with Barry

1037
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:15,680
there. He's a genius. I
mean he he's a genius because he wrote

1038
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:23,960
songs with chords that wrapped around like
a pretzel and yet sounded simple, and

1039
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:29,399
that is a genius to do that. And the harmonies are supposedly you heard

1040
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,119
the harmonies in his head, and
you know, so on you know,

1041
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,640
I think that I think that you
know, pet sounds, pet sounds.

1042
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,479
As always they always say, well, you know, Sergeant Pepper is based

1043
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,399
on pet sounds. They heard pet
sounds and it was so good that they

1044
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,840
wanted to if you hear pet sounds, it's it's it's okay, it's not.

1045
01:18:49,079 --> 01:18:54,319
It's not this great groundbreaking thing.
It has two good songs on it,

1046
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,800
two or three, but there's some
filler in there too, you know.

1047
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,600
So I don't know, and they
throw that whole thing around. Brian

1048
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,000
Weston's a genius. He's great.
He's really really good, really good,

1049
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,119
and he and he wrote mockatable songs
that everyone knew, and anytime you hear

1050
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:11,520
the Beachways, you know it's them, and that's the most important thing,

1051
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,079
you know. Yeah, it's a
genius. I don't know. Yeah,

1052
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,199
Sergeant Pepper to pest sounds to me, like you say, pest sounds has

1053
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:21,920
a lot of filler. Sergeant Pepper
has no filler. In fact, nothing

1054
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:28,399
in the Beatles catalog is filling,
really not. There's no mediocre moments anywhere,

1055
01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:32,439
and that's why no one compares to
them. You know, I'm gonna

1056
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,880
uh, I'm gonna go ask one
one the same thing. So are you

1057
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,920
a beach boy guy? We've ever
tied the beach Boys before? I always

1058
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,279
liked the beach Boys? Yeah,
I mean there were pre Beatles that was

1059
01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:47,800
interesting and they had some really you
know like this. I like their hot

1060
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,239
Rody era, like the Surfi or
yeah yeah, yeah, like those themes.

1061
01:19:53,239 --> 01:19:55,760
M But they changed too, you
know what I mean. Cars,

1062
01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:01,880
you can't knock that right right,
it out for you in such a way

1063
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,760
that it just said take me there. Do I have to go to California

1064
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,159
for this? No? I can
find it right here in Massachusetts on a

1065
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:13,880
black areas on for a second,
and the bids they call it Tits and

1066
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:21,720
Tires song. Didn't hear that?
That's good. Get backed up the table,

1067
01:20:24,319 --> 01:20:30,039
thank you man the drum, I
didn't hear that. Wow. Okay,

1068
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:38,840
all right, so okay. The
Beach Boys established a whole lifestyle around

1069
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,119
their music, right. See,
that's what they did, right. They

1070
01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:43,720
have party with the Beach Boys,
surf with the Beach Boys. You're in

1071
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,840
California with the Beach Boys, and
when you're sitting in like cold old Boston

1072
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,159
and the boys, isn't going to
be fun? Yes? Right, Yeah,

1073
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:55,399
they've found the fun. There's a
song right there. You see them

1074
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,399
now, and there's like nineteen people
on stage with them. It's it's unbelievable.

1075
01:20:59,399 --> 01:21:02,239
They have like a guitar players and
it's really kind of crazy. And

1076
01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:06,479
the whole situation between Brian Wilson and
the rest of them is really odd.

1077
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,399
You know, they you know,
seeing each other and stuff like that.

1078
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,119
But I'm going to ask one more
question. I'm going to ask you to

1079
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:15,319
everybody suing each other. I think
that's the thing to do. Hallo Oates

1080
01:21:16,199 --> 01:21:19,680
suing John Oates. I just read
that as a restraining order against him.

1081
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:27,279
Yeah, and I have I've read
John Oates's book. Lois bought me.

1082
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,760
She says, I know you like
Daryl Hall because of that Darryl's House,

1083
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,640
which is a really good show,
and and so she bought me. Uh

1084
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,159
you thought it was Darryl's book,
but it was it was John Oates's book,

1085
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:43,199
remember that. Huh? No,
yes, I mean I did buy

1086
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:46,960
it for you, but I knew
it was Daryl know so. But he's

1087
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,640
a really interesting guy, John Oates, you know. And but I could

1088
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,279
see how they had different people.
They would never really songwriting potts. There

1089
01:21:56,279 --> 01:22:00,479
were business potts because the record they
want to put together an now call Holling

1090
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,800
Oats as if you're carrying oats,
Holling Oats, get it. And you

1091
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:09,600
know, they just basically included their
own songs. They get a little bit

1092
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,960
more popular pop and then MTV hits
and bang they're everywhere. You know,

1093
01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:17,720
they're everywhere, those stars. And
yeah, there were business partners, you

1094
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,880
know, And I can see why
they'd be at each other's throats. But

1095
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,960
at one one, I'm going to
just ask you something, okay, and

1096
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,439
then we're going to get into the
who do you think of better musicians?

1097
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,880
The Beatles or the Rolling Stones?
This might be fighting words better musicians.

1098
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,640
Yikes. I kind of leaned towards
the Rolling Stones because of it. When

1099
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:47,439
you talk about musicians, I'm talking
about the two guitar players. I think,

1100
01:22:48,119 --> 01:22:54,960
uh, the Rolling Stones had a
good history of having good guitar players.

1101
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,640
In addition to Keith Richards, who
is my man. Yes, they

1102
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,600
had Mick Taylor, who I thought
was one of the best guitar players around

1103
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:10,199
as a member of the Rolling Stones. Didn't really fit in, didn't fit

1104
01:23:10,279 --> 01:23:14,159
in. Awesome career, yep,
right, yeah, but an odd guy

1105
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:15,279
out in the in the in the
band, if you know what I mean,

1106
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,319
odd guy odd Whenever you listen to
an album that Mick Taylor is in,

1107
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,640
it's wicked good. It's all guitars, all this like kind of lead

1108
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:29,199
guitar stuff. And I mean they're
not really with Keith Richards all day love.

1109
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,439
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
I think the shout out of Weaving

1110
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,000
they had it down pat yeah,
and so does he and Ronnie Lane have

1111
01:23:36,119 --> 01:23:40,600
it too, you know, I
mean it's Ronny what I mean, They

1112
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,199
basically two lead rhythm guitars in that
band, right, the two kind of

1113
01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:49,600
rhythm guitars that interact, and I
know it takes let to know how to

1114
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,319
win to do that not you know, like on the spur of the moment,

1115
01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:57,640
or rather so listen one one though
Hackney Diamonds, you light the album,

1116
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,880
You've done a deep dive into it. Diamonds, I've heard like two

1117
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,039
songs, but Hackney that the album
as a whole I really like. I

1118
01:24:06,199 --> 01:24:12,359
like a lot. There's certain parts
of it that make me not be totally

1119
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,479
in love with Hackney Diamonds. And
there's a couple of what I call low

1120
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,880
moments, but for the most part, I really really liked the album.

1121
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:27,960
And it starts off with a bang. And and what's cool about the record

1122
01:24:28,079 --> 01:24:31,680
is that now Darryl Jones wasn't around
for the sessions and this he was out

1123
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,680
doing his own gig. Everybody their
brother's playing based on this record. It

1124
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:43,600
is produced by Andrew Watt, who
I never heard of. The guy,

1125
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,319
but he's a musician in his own
right, a very good one. He's

1126
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:51,960
worked with a lot of good artists. Andrew Watt really got these got the

1127
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:57,920
Stones in the studio, no horsing
around. This wasn't going to be one

1128
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,960
of these things. I mean,
they had they had a schedule and they

1129
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,279
stuck to it, and they really
wanted to get this record out and do

1130
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:09,239
something good with it, not just
to throw out some crap, but to

1131
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:12,039
really put it together. And this
guy, Andrew Watt put it together,

1132
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,760
and you had if you look at
the lineup with a cast of thousands,

1133
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:23,199
they don't need added people. That's
why didn't look like that second single that

1134
01:25:23,239 --> 01:25:27,640
they came up with, it was
called Sweet Sounds of Sweet Sounds from Heaven

1135
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,920
with Lady Gaga. Oh well yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder and

1136
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,760
he's on it. Yeah, you
know, she's okay, But I don't

1137
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:41,000
think I don't think they needed They
had to make it relevant, you know

1138
01:25:41,039 --> 01:25:44,399
what I mean. They had to
make it relevant and get some bring something

1139
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,279
like that. I mean, I
mean they started off introducing the record with

1140
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:53,359
their lead single was Angry Yes right, and you went, wow, this

1141
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,800
is a really kick butt song that
that's a good way of starting a Rolling

1142
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,000
Stones album, which is typical for
them, is started with a kick butt

1143
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:08,439
balls to the wall saw it and
then the video that goes with it with

1144
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:15,399
the showcasing the the attributes of Sydney
Sweeney. Yeah was to die for.

1145
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:20,840
I could watch that video all day
long, but that's just me. Oh

1146
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:28,039
you start up, you start off
with rockers angry and get close. I

1147
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:30,840
get close with featuring Elton John.
But you would know Elton Johnny, I

1148
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,359
don't know. Just let me just
interrupt you for saying, Mike, do

1149
01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:38,199
you want us to move the symbol
a little closer to you? It's what

1150
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:44,399
I did. Wow, if Bob
the Ghost was here, he's probably left

1151
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,079
by now, right, So you
want to live what's happening that he's interfering

1152
01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:53,439
with the um So, so I
got to listen to the whole thing.

1153
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,680
I heard the two his listen to
the whole thing. I heard the McCartney

1154
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,319
one, the one that McCartney's on, and did you do you say?

1155
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:03,279
Elton John's on it too? Elton
John bite my head off. He's got

1156
01:27:03,319 --> 01:27:06,319
Paul mcottony on bass. He's got
like this fuzz tone bass thing going on,

1157
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,239
and he's got a good middle part
where it's it's just him. Oh

1158
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:15,399
really yeah they gave that to him. Yeah, like to think for yourself

1159
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,239
type things. It's it's excellent.
Bite my half is a good rocker,

1160
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:23,199
good hardcore. I mean, there's
a lot of rockers in this record.

1161
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:30,600
There's only two soft Tunes and Dreamy
Skies is one. Ben mont Tensch is

1162
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:36,880
a guest starring on this from Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of

1163
01:27:38,079 --> 01:27:45,720
uh no expectations that song. Okay, so Ben Montensch is a is excellent

1164
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,399
as as everybody knows. And then
uh live by the sword of Bill Wyman's

1165
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,279
playing on this one. Oh wow, huh great bass player, Matt,

1166
01:27:54,279 --> 01:27:58,159
Do you agree Bill Wyman? Great? Yeah, definitely, he played some

1167
01:27:58,399 --> 01:28:01,760
stuff on Man. It's sometimes a
little bit in the background, but someone

1168
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,239
once said, listen to the bass
and Satisfaction. Everything that's going on in

1169
01:28:05,319 --> 01:28:09,800
Satisfaction, listen to the bass in
it. It's it drives the song.

1170
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:14,600
It's crazy, but it really does. Go ahead money And I always enjoyed

1171
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,600
watching those old sixties videos of the
Rolling Stones playing, whether it be that

1172
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,479
SolV show or some live joints someplace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

1173
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:28,279
you know, Bill Wymon's get it
so upright. It's like an upright base

1174
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,279
hardly moving Yeah yeah, yeah,
he's just playing his ass off the Hardly

1175
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:34,720
movie. Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, he's cool. He's a cool

1176
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:41,960
cat showboat like Matt. Yeah,
right there you go. Wow. Now

1177
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,760
the drum's working Matt, what kind
of good time? What did you have

1178
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,680
one bass the whole time? Did
you have different basses? Well, I

1179
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:55,159
had a handful, only I didn't
have like twenty or thirty. But in

1180
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:58,000
counting crows, I played a Fender
Jazz bass, which isn't all around kind

1181
01:28:58,039 --> 01:29:02,239
of workhorse yuh yeah, Jay,
and a P bass Offender P bass.

1182
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:08,880
Those were it, you know.
I played a couple of older ones,

1183
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:15,119
an SG bass which looks like an
SG guitars a little oh yeah, yeah,

1184
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:16,840
I had a sixties SG base later
on. That was the last base

1185
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,880
I played in the band. That's
a real isn't that kind of an SG

1186
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:24,760
bass? Yeah? It is.
And it's a very limited tone. It's

1187
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:30,840
a very tired, kind of worn
tone, a lot like McCart news Hoffner

1188
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,920
bass, even less lively than that, because a Hoffner is a hollow body,

1189
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:39,199
so it resonates a little better.
So this is a it's a fully

1190
01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:44,560
electric, you know, solid body
base and it has exactly one tone.

1191
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,800
But I liked it at the end
there, right. How about rickenbackers and

1192
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,439
stuff like that. I mean,
the rickenback and pace is big, but

1193
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:55,279
they don't really not around that much
anymore. I read. No, they're

1194
01:29:55,359 --> 01:29:58,560
one trick pony. You know,
they have a really good clank to them.

1195
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,800
If you're Chris Squire Getty Lee.
Ye a ricket, yeah yeah,

1196
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:06,399
yeah, yes, but it's had
sound again, you know, a ricket.

1197
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:11,239
It sounds great and every base perser
will probably have a rick in their

1198
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,680
collection. I don't at the moment, but because it's a it's a it

1199
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,520
does what it does really well,
right sure. Talking about the Beatles,

1200
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:25,119
they said that mccontey was quoted as
saying that George Harrison was not at seventy

1201
01:30:25,159 --> 01:30:30,039
five percent of the sessions of Sogeant
Pepper. Well, okay, that he

1202
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,920
also said what he was doing at
the times. Do they know what he

1203
01:30:33,039 --> 01:30:40,159
was doing? You know, mowing
the lawn fire park close close? He

1204
01:30:40,359 --> 01:30:46,560
was building a swimming pool. Uh
yeahs would you move the symbol of bit

1205
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,239
closer to mine? I'll give him, I'll give him a long of drumsticks.

1206
01:30:51,119 --> 01:30:55,680
Yeah, I mean, goes are
back in the days. Whether you

1207
01:30:56,079 --> 01:30:59,000
really couldn't mail it in. You
had to be there to do your stuff.

1208
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:04,680
He didn't have to be there simultaneously
with everybody, but it usually worked

1209
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,960
a lot better. I thought that
the White Album was where everybody was taking

1210
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,119
a powder. I think there was
all yeah, there's all kind of their

1211
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:15,119
own solo albums in a way,
you know, and I think Pepper Pepper

1212
01:31:15,159 --> 01:31:19,479
they were really collaborating. I think
it's McCartney and lend Coard Martin wanted it

1213
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,319
that way. Yeah, they made
the symphonic piece. That's what it's like.

1214
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,199
It was like two people writing a
symphonic piece that has a lot of

1215
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:30,159
different chapters and stuff, and then
they would bring them in to play when

1216
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:31,399
they were going to play, you
know. I mean it was the first

1217
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,880
of that kind of steely Dan way
of doing an album. You know,

1218
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:42,039
we bring the people in and play
so well. It's a bear that could

1219
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,439
listen to all day long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going.

1220
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,840
Yeah. They have a lot of
really good guys on there. Just saw

1221
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:53,560
a video of Larry Cayleton playing Kid
Chalamagne at some jazz club in New York.

1222
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:57,000
He's great, He's really really good, you know, And he says

1223
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,720
he gets paid a lot to go
to LA and just put rhythm guitar and

1224
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,920
a lot of a lot of songs. I heard Steve Lukather of Toto say

1225
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,039
the same thing. He goes Rhythm
makes it. Rhythm makes the world go

1226
01:32:08,119 --> 01:32:11,800
around. He says, you wouldn't
believe the people have played rhythm guitar because

1227
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,359
they can't play rhythm. And I
think it means like Eric Clapton or someone

1228
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:19,960
you know. Mm hmmm, So
you think that rhythm guitar is what you

1229
01:32:20,079 --> 01:32:25,079
do when you can't play lead.
But that's very very important. It's it's

1230
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,560
like Keith rich I mean they got
a Keith richardism here a Richard is because

1231
01:32:33,119 --> 01:32:38,520
you know, a solo solo's come
and go, but a riff less for

1232
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,199
les. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. You can listen to

1233
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,720
uh a Keith Rich's riff right,
and it really has some substance and some

1234
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:54,119
it's not complex, it just has
a harmony within itself. I don't care

1235
01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:59,359
if it's open g drop d.
I don't care what it is. But

1236
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:03,159
he makes it sound like him.
It's really special. Yeah, him,

1237
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,079
You put a lot of thought into
it. You always know it's him.

1238
01:33:06,079 --> 01:33:09,600
You always know it's the stones,
you know. I mean that's the key

1239
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,920
is if on the first note,
if they know who you are and you've

1240
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:16,640
made it, you know. So
it's the Hackney Diamonds with headphones really good.

1241
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,079
You can you can really hear the
weaving. And I wanted to say

1242
01:33:20,119 --> 01:33:25,199
before I wrapped up, my critique
of Hackney Diamonds is that I haven't heard

1243
01:33:25,279 --> 01:33:29,680
Ronnie ron Wood sound so good as
I as I've heard in this record.

1244
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,960
There's been albums where ron Wood is
I don't know, in the background,

1245
01:33:32,039 --> 01:33:36,319
kind of meeeling it in. Yes, good, he's good, but he's

1246
01:33:38,399 --> 01:33:43,840
he's been better, and this one
he's been way better. He's been really

1247
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,560
working it out. I'm happy for
him. He's the young one of the

1248
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,920
band. He's only seventy six.
Seventy six, Yeah, he's twins,

1249
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,680
like about four years old. Don't
forget. Keith Rich's birthday is coming up.

1250
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:03,520
Eighty Keith eighty eight. All right, I have it before we take

1251
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:08,239
a quick break, last break of
the show. Have a few fun facts

1252
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:12,520
ready lost you'll like these? Will
I? Okay, we should we kill

1253
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,600
the drummer? Cue? Can you
reach the symbol there on my friend?

1254
01:34:16,279 --> 01:34:23,439
There you go? Oh that was
as target. He was falling forward when

1255
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:29,520
that happened. Yeah, that helps
the whole time. Okay, these are

1256
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,880
just fun facts. That's just like
weird to me. Okay, you know,

1257
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,680
Don Felder, who was the guitar
player for the Eagles, right and

1258
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:41,640
read his book Heaven and How Man
Man, Matt, you talk about what's

1259
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,800
it like being to band? A
bad side of it? This guy Holy

1260
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,439
Cow just really bad, just bad, just a bad vibe. It's too

1261
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,880
bad. Okay. He worked in
a guitar shop and a record shop in

1262
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,800
Florida. To someplace Jacksonville, Flora, a guy walks and says, hey,

1263
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,199
listen, you teach me to play
The guitar says, well, we

1264
01:35:00,319 --> 01:35:02,159
really don't do that here, he
says, come on, I'll give you

1265
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:06,960
like ten bucks an how he says, okay, the guys Tom Petty Wow.

1266
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:14,039
True because it wasn't funny. It's
true. It was fun it wasn't

1267
01:35:14,079 --> 01:35:19,560
worthy of us. Okay, it
wasn't worthy of a simple crash symbol worthy

1268
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,960
iron Is it ironic? Is it
irony? In there? I think it's

1269
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:30,359
gonna be iron What that is?
It's not really. Later on, he's

1270
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:35,359
playing in a band in Daytona Beach
and he's on the bill. It's one

1271
01:35:35,359 --> 01:35:39,680
of these bands college places where they
play all day, all night, and

1272
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,199
the guys in front of them they
got to be good friends with them and

1273
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:46,520
they would go and their mother was
also in Daytona Beach and they'd feed them

1274
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,960
and everything. The name of the
band was the Almond Joys and the Almond

1275
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:58,279
Brothers am brothers. Yeah. Nice, Okay, here's the Okay, ready

1276
01:35:58,319 --> 01:36:01,000
for this. You see them brothers. I saw them. I saw them

1277
01:36:01,039 --> 01:36:08,039
at what was that huge, huge
festival after Woodstock, Watkins Glenn. I

1278
01:36:08,079 --> 01:36:13,159
saw them at Watkins, the first
tour they did with Chuck Levell after uh

1279
01:36:13,399 --> 01:36:15,319
you know, once his name died. They either were really jazzed up,

1280
01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:19,359
they were great. They were just
really really good. His piano added a

1281
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:24,920
lot point. Okay, let's see. I know this is the crazy this

1282
01:36:25,039 --> 01:36:31,000
is one of the crazy ones.
First of all, this isn't even true,

1283
01:36:31,039 --> 01:36:35,239
of false, but true false.
Joe Petch and Jimmy Hendrix played in

1284
01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:42,319
the same band. Joe Pesci and
Jimmy Hendrix played in the same band.

1285
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:47,680
It's weird enough to be true,
but it's true. It's true. And

1286
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:54,199
The and the Books was a session
guy No Joey d in the Star Ladders.

1287
01:36:54,359 --> 01:36:58,720
They had the pepmin twist and Felix
Papillotti was the organ player in it.

1288
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,239
So Jimmy Hendricks and then he left
and then Joe Pesh he took his

1289
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:08,439
place as the guitar player. And
that it's crazy is Felix Mountain Fame?

1290
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:14,399
No? No, I mean I
know the guy from Cavalaris for the Rascals.

1291
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,640
Yeah, okay, okay, I
got it all on. This is

1292
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:23,600
Zippy Queen. Okay, that was
a good band. But we only know

1293
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,000
Mississippi Queen. That's what I say. Yeah, that was one of the

1294
01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:30,840
And you know who Waddy watch Out
was the guitar he's a session guy.

1295
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:36,239
He was what's his name's nighbor,
you're just the Mississippi Queen guy, the

1296
01:37:36,319 --> 01:37:43,000
big guy. No, no,
who's the guitar player? Leslie West?

1297
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:46,159
Leslie West would kill My brother loved, wasn't it Nantucket Sleigh? Right?

1298
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:54,840
Yeah, yeah, my brother loved
that out? Ye who got Ronnie ron

1299
01:37:54,920 --> 01:38:03,640
Wood hooked? Ronnie Lane hooked on
coke? What band? Who's running the

1300
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:08,000
Faces? Running Wood? Ron Wood? Ron Wood? Sorry, okay in

1301
01:38:08,039 --> 01:38:11,800
the faces too. He was in
the Faces and they both want Yeah.

1302
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,520
Faces was a great band. Yeah, they're really good. Right. They

1303
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,840
used to do they used to take
the standing room only money, buy beer

1304
01:38:20,039 --> 01:38:24,920
and invite the audience back to their
hotel room with them with beer, and

1305
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:32,399
they'd like destroy the freaking hotel.
Okay, the people who got him cooked

1306
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,720
didn't take part in that day.
I'm sure the guys who got him hooked

1307
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,840
on coke was the band America.
He stayed at the mansion in l a

1308
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,439
with of all people America, and
okay, I think a couple more than

1309
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,119
were gonna take a quick break.
This one is the strangers to me,

1310
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:56,079
uh, the second strangers when after
Simon and goffunk, Well, let's after

1311
01:38:56,119 --> 01:38:59,960
Simon Gono really made it big.
They actually broke up for a little while

1312
01:39:00,319 --> 01:39:04,079
that they didn't tell people about.
Paul Simon moved to London. This is

1313
01:39:04,119 --> 01:39:09,520
true. This is after the Sounds
of Silence came out and he was in

1314
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,880
a rooming house and he was playing
as so long as people around London,

1315
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,680
and he had a flatmate who used
to play the songs back and forth to

1316
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:25,399
him and it was else do it. Yeah, what a strange combination.

1317
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:30,319
You know, what do you say
that's not funny? Wow? The drama

1318
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,319
funny things? These are just fascinating. Okay, all right, all right,

1319
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:42,600
I mean they are fascinating. Sound
for fascinating. Oh, that's wow.

1320
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,880
Okay, here's the last one.
Ready. We got to take a

1321
01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:49,840
well deserved break. Rick James,
Rick James, Okay, you know who

1322
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:55,119
Rick James is, right, Okay. So he had a couple of hits

1323
01:39:55,159 --> 01:39:57,920
and then he was going to get
drafted into the Vietnam War, so he

1324
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:02,079
fled. He went to Canada on
a bus. He arrived in Montreal station

1325
01:40:02,279 --> 01:40:08,239
like a three am, and two
guys immediately stopped beating them up. Okay,

1326
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:14,000
and he's saved by two guys,
two guys from the band like Rick

1327
01:40:14,079 --> 01:40:16,239
Danko and Goth Hudson. We're walking
along and they saved him from getting his

1328
01:40:16,319 --> 01:40:19,920
ass bet. I mean, how
strange is that? And then he was

1329
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:25,359
in Rick James was in the band
with Neil Young called the Minor Birds before

1330
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,359
Neil Young moved to l A.
What a combination, I mean, really,

1331
01:40:29,279 --> 01:40:35,640
yeah, that's very interesting. Long
the rim show, the drummers on

1332
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:42,880
strike here. Wow, that's really
interestingly cow Hey, Mike, you know

1333
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,439
what they call people hanging around with
musicians? There you go a drama?

1334
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,640
All right, listen, why don't
we take it? Can take? Why

1335
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:57,279
don't we take us? I got
my own device, yellows? Why don't

1336
01:40:57,319 --> 01:41:00,279
we take a questionure break now and
we're right back after this. You're listening

1337
01:41:00,279 --> 01:41:03,840
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Milk TRACTA show here in the distance
on the radio, the work. This

1354
01:43:00,319 --> 01:43:02,960
is Mac Morney. Whow it's all
music show we've had for you tonight.

1355
01:43:03,319 --> 01:43:06,159
We've got a few seconds left.
Let me just introduce the gang here.

1356
01:43:06,319 --> 01:43:15,800
One one's here, Bony Hello,
microphon? Is it worth staying up late

1357
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:20,399
for this? I could be up
all night talking about music. There you

1358
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:26,119
go. Good to you? Okay, I'll saw Barried winning up there on

1359
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:30,199
another part of New Hampshire? Is
it is? Is it wit staying awake

1360
01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:33,880
for you? Barry? It's five
past eight? Oh you're going to start?

1361
01:43:34,319 --> 01:43:40,800
Yeah, it's worth staying up.
Matt Maley a friend out there in

1362
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:48,039
l A're up early? Yeah?
I just woke up. Five's I forgot

1363
01:43:48,079 --> 01:43:53,640
about the time. It's a right
ran, it's already tomorrow. There you

1364
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:59,399
go, right, good line,
yeah, good line for san can you

1365
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:05,079
tell us who on at Suffolk Downs
yesterday tonight? Anyway? The Beatles,

1366
01:44:05,279 --> 01:44:11,039
stuffing Downs, stuffing Downs. Yeah, it's an old references. Mik saw

1367
01:44:11,079 --> 01:44:15,119
the Beatles up the at Suffolk Downs. Can you believe that? Sixty six?

1368
01:44:15,359 --> 01:44:18,720
Sixty six the last one? Anyway, So we're talking about all music

1369
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:24,159
tonight. Also, he only introduced
one and you forgot about us. Wait

1370
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:28,720
a minute, Okay, that's okay. We're here supporting the team. We

1371
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,479
did. I introduced for else today, three of them. Okay, all

1372
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:34,000
right, I was I was getting
around you. Wow. Wow. No,

1373
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:41,039
wasn't he ready to change subject?
No? Wow, only cow lovers.

1374
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,600
This means only two cookies tonight and
that three. I'm sorry there,

1375
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,439
I mean I'm thinking of it.
I'm thinking of a divo line. Also

1376
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:57,680
with oh wow wow, that's a
good one. Good the drama comes away.

1377
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,800
That deserve the whole tymbol. Also
in the studio with us is Lois

1378
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:09,640
learning. Lois, thanks for joining
us tonight. Wow. And also a

1379
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:16,399
good friend Mike pulling on the drums
Mike, Yeah wow. That's like Mike

1380
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:21,199
used to play John Lennon in a
Beatles band. They're really good help of

1381
01:45:21,239 --> 01:45:26,039
the help. Yeah, yeah,
I miss that. You saw them buried

1382
01:45:26,119 --> 01:45:28,720
you see them? Pack did see
them? They were excellent. Yeah,

1383
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,439
they're really good. I've mentioned this
to Mark. I knew how big fans

1384
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:36,680
they were based on what they selected
to play. Yes, I don't think

1385
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:43,840
i'd ever heard a Beatles band play
some other guy. Yeah that's right,

1386
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,439
we did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very good. And we

1387
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,560
used to see them a lot at
Hampton Beach, Matt, you know of

1388
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:55,359
Hampton Beach at a at an outside
venue. They had an outside the amphitheater

1389
01:45:56,319 --> 01:45:59,800
like a shell. And it happened
every single time we'd go see them.

1390
01:46:00,039 --> 01:46:04,439
They'd play one song and this,
you know, this rush rush of little

1391
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:10,000
kids. Little kids would be upfront
and they'd be dancing just automatically. It

1392
01:46:10,119 --> 01:46:13,760
was. It happened every time,
and some of them knew the songs and

1393
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,359
stuff. It was really really eye
opening, you know, and he knew

1394
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:19,920
that it was just going to go
on for generation. So anyway, have

1395
01:46:20,039 --> 01:46:27,920
I introduced everyone? Lewis you have? Okay? Thankfully done? There you

1396
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,720
go, thank you. Well.
I mean we have a few minutes left

1397
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:35,399
and we have to talk about the
new Beatles song now and then, and

1398
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,840
I'm going to throw I'll throw it
to Barry first, okay, and I'm

1399
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,319
going to go last. Barry,
go ahead please now and then we should

1400
01:46:42,319 --> 01:46:45,359
say, is that as a demo
tape that John Lennon made in the seventies.

1401
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:54,279
It was revitalized. His voice was
on Ai Ringo and Paul put instruments

1402
01:46:54,319 --> 01:46:58,000
on it. George had put instruments
on it years ago, and they wrapped

1403
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,479
it up in this bow now and
then and put it as part of the

1404
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:06,399
promotional piece for the remasters of the
Red and Blue albums. So please barry

1405
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:14,760
your opinion, all right. So
I was torn. I did not want

1406
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:19,920
them to do this. I was
familiar with the fuzz on the John Lennon

1407
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:27,000
piece and I felt like it was
this really, really intimate song, and

1408
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:31,720
so I did not want them messing
with it. But then after listening to

1409
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:38,880
it for a while and probably too
many times, and taking it from McCartney's

1410
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:44,520
angle, I started to understand why
he wanted to do it and for what

1411
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,920
it is. All right, it's
not the Beatles, but it's very very

1412
01:47:48,079 --> 01:47:55,079
sweet and it's guys helping out a
friend, and that's what I take it

1413
01:47:55,199 --> 01:48:01,920
for. Matt. I've heard the
song exactly. We once and everyone including

1414
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:05,039
Barry just now, everyone who says
they've heard it multiple times it starts to

1415
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:09,079
grow on them. So I got
to hear it some more, but I

1416
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:14,880
was not impressed. I was impressed
with John Lennon as usual for the song

1417
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:21,239
itself, but both Paul and Ringo
were just kind of they just played mediocre

1418
01:48:21,399 --> 01:48:26,000
through the whole thing. Ringo was
just hitting a snare, like pounding nails,

1419
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,359
and I was missing his swingy fills
and things, and I was not

1420
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,479
impressed. But as I say that, I'm going to hear it ten more

1421
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,000
times and then I'll have maybe a
different opinion. Wow. Interesting, Wannie.

1422
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:40,600
Well, I've never heard a Beatles
song where I had to listen to

1423
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:45,119
it ten times to get into it. And Mac encouraged me to listen to

1424
01:48:45,239 --> 01:48:47,439
now and then I have it.
I have it here, and I was,

1425
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:58,760
I'm all right, all right,
you know it's it's mellow John Lennon.

1426
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:04,000
I always liked him that way,
and I thought it was a patchwork

1427
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:08,880
of I didn't see the AI part
of it. I didn't really I know

1428
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,680
what AI is, and I didn't
really get the AI component in this song.

1429
01:49:14,279 --> 01:49:17,119
But you're right, Matt. The
drumming was like, yeah, he

1430
01:49:17,279 --> 01:49:19,840
was on it, but he wasn't. He was mailing it in. He

1431
01:49:20,119 --> 01:49:24,000
had to be where he had to
be, Like, you know, I

1432
01:49:24,079 --> 01:49:27,840
got to be here, but I
don't give a rats. Hey, Mark,

1433
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,960
go ahead put it right after.
Yeah, I think I would have

1434
01:49:32,079 --> 01:49:36,720
to hear it a few more times
too, And I'm not sure. I'm

1435
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:41,960
pretty sure that John wouldn't have won
it that released, would not have wanted

1436
01:49:42,039 --> 01:49:46,479
it released. Yeah, I would
not. Okay, That's all I got

1437
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:57,119
was oh, sorry. So when
I first heard it, I felt the

1438
01:49:57,199 --> 01:50:00,039
way I felt about the Rolling Stone
song. When I first heard their new

1439
01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:06,600
song, that not impressed, as
Matt said. But when I watched it

1440
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:16,039
the official video and listened to the
song, I liked it more. But

1441
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:23,439
I'm not sure it holds up with
a lot of their other songs. So

1442
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:30,800
but I've only listened to it maybe
four times. So okay, so Mac,

1443
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:32,840
what did you think of it?
Yes? Mac, what did you

1444
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,760
think of that? See? I
felt the same way when I first heard

1445
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:40,760
it as everyone is saying that it's
like, oh man, and and I

1446
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,039
said, this is going to be
a mistake because free bird and not free

1447
01:50:46,279 --> 01:50:49,720
Yeah, it's free as a Bird, Free as a Bird, and Real

1448
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,760
Love. They're good songs. They
turned out. I thought they turned out

1449
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,479
really well. Jeff Lynn, I
thought did a great job on those songs,

1450
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,880
considering what they had to work with
them. But you knew that this

1451
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,279
has been hanging around for twenty years. Harrison did not want to work on

1452
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:09,560
it. He called it rubbish,
and you know, but now they put

1453
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,800
it out of some kind of a
promotional thing. I said, this is

1454
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,720
going all wrong. And I don't
like Ills mott and I think he just

1455
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:19,760
happens to be George Mottin's son.
And they also the love Thing in Las

1456
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:24,279
Vegas. I thought they said this
is the greatest Beatle album coming out,

1457
01:51:24,359 --> 01:51:30,840
and it was just it was just
it was what happened. Oh I th

1458
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:36,960
Bob the Ghost Okay, so anyway, so that's how I felt. But

1459
01:51:38,079 --> 01:51:41,279
then I listened to it a bunch
of times, and I know this sounds

1460
01:51:41,319 --> 01:51:44,159
crazy, but I think it's in
one of the I think it's one of

1461
01:51:44,199 --> 01:51:47,880
the top twenty five songs, and
just listen to it because I can remember

1462
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,439
going back and listening to like,
for instance, the first time I heard

1463
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,279
Day in the Life, I remember
thinking, oh, they've blown it now,

1464
01:51:55,399 --> 01:51:57,880
No one's going to listen to this. This is terrible. You know.

1465
01:51:58,399 --> 01:52:00,000
Three days later, you can't wait
for it to get on the radio

1466
01:52:00,079 --> 01:52:03,079
again. You can't wait for the
song to come out. Same thing with

1467
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:09,800
Day Tripper and Paperback Writer. You
know, the first time listen to Paperback

1468
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:13,279
right, the first time, it's
like all over the place, it's crazy.

1469
01:52:13,399 --> 01:52:15,880
But then you listen to it and
you can't stop thinking about it and

1470
01:52:16,319 --> 01:52:20,600
repeat. You those have more songs
where if you listen to one chord,

1471
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:24,760
you know the song, whether it's
the beginning or the end. Yeah.

1472
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:29,199
You listen to Hard Day's Night,
you hear that twelve string and you know

1473
01:52:29,279 --> 01:52:30,640
what it is. Yep. At
the end of the day in the life,

1474
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,600
you hear that was it? How
many pianos was it? They played

1475
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:38,000
that one chord in three or four? Yes, yep, and you know

1476
01:52:38,119 --> 01:52:40,880
what it was. Yes, you
didn't even have to hear the song,

1477
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,640
you knew it it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can tell

1478
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,439
it by one cord. That's funny. Yeah, that's right. But that's

1479
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:46,239
how I feel about it. And
I'll tell you why I like it,

1480
01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:50,840
And I don't know. The lyrics
are very very simple, obviously, he

1481
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:56,800
was just singing almost what came to
his mind in a way, because you

1482
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,119
know, it's true, I'm in
love with you. It's like, you

1483
01:53:00,199 --> 01:53:02,439
know, you can't get more trite
than that. But and I agree with

1484
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,800
Lois when you see what changed me
is when I saw the official video.

1485
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,680
In the way that the video was
shot and the way that it's presented is

1486
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:14,680
that it's almost like Lennon was writing
this song to the two surviving Beatles that

1487
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,680
hey, you know, we're going
to get through our lives because we remember

1488
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,920
you and they and it's very effective
the way they do it. You know,

1489
01:53:20,119 --> 01:53:25,760
some really corny pots in the video, and then when you listen to

1490
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,039
it and listen to the middle pot
which I think, jeff Lynn you are

1491
01:53:30,199 --> 01:53:32,520
arranged and he used pots of Elm
and Rigby in it and stuff, I

1492
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:38,600
can't really hear it. I think
that the kind of the slide guitar that

1493
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,680
McCartney plays in Harrison's style, I
think it should be a little louder,

1494
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:46,800
but I like it. I think
just the way it's put together, I

1495
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,239
think it's in the top twenty five. I know that sounds blasphemous, but

1496
01:53:50,399 --> 01:53:54,039
just listen to it more. Maybe
and see if you agree with me,

1497
01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:56,800
just listen to it a bunch of
times and see the video. Watch the

1498
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,520
video. Yeah, okay, this
has been a pig advertisement by app Americans.

1499
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:08,279
The drummer all right, okay,
listen, well a wed clap.

1500
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,960
Let's clap with the drummer. Okay, my, hey, well, no

1501
01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:18,960
belly button man. Thanks for joining
us. Uh, let's see, Barry,

1502
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:24,239
thanks for joining us. Barry,
You're welcome. Did you have a

1503
01:54:24,279 --> 01:54:29,079
good time? I had an excellent
time, and I'd be willing to talk

1504
01:54:29,239 --> 01:54:33,960
music again. My big thing is
everyone should have like five passions. Music

1505
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:40,920
is going to be my top passion
forever. Yeah, me too. I

1506
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,000
mean, you know, we all
know what we I do for a living.

1507
01:54:44,079 --> 01:54:46,079
But lowest one said to me,
how come all your heroes and musicians

1508
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,960
we're probably drunk. No, not
just me, not you, sorry you

1509
01:54:54,159 --> 01:55:00,319
Lois anyway, so thank you back
for joining us from the copa you know,

1510
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:06,680
not you low Coma anyway. I'm
thinking of disco. I'm thinking of

1511
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:13,079
Barry Manilo. Oh yeah, yeah, Harry, Barry. I'm a huge

1512
01:55:13,079 --> 01:55:17,319
Berry Manloe fan, and we should
have said that he broke On the next

1513
01:55:17,399 --> 01:55:23,119
show. We can talk about Barry
Manilo. He's one of those guys you

1514
01:55:23,159 --> 01:55:28,520
should grow up by the way,
being Barry in the era of You know,

1515
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,479
if I was in the band back
in when he was really really big,

1516
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:35,760
I would I would have wanted to
sing Mandy really yeah, huh,

1517
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:42,319
you would have get. You be
weeping halfway through it, then you really

1518
01:55:42,319 --> 01:55:45,880
would have got. And this is
I met this bed tech in my town.

1519
01:55:45,079 --> 01:55:49,319
His name is Mandy. I saw
let me see you know, she's

1520
01:55:49,319 --> 01:55:53,199
a young girl. I said,
let me let me guess were you're named

1521
01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:56,479
after? The song? Yes,
wow, I love he admitted it.

1522
01:55:56,680 --> 01:56:00,039
I love that song and I love
you. You starting to the world diff

1523
01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:03,880
folks, Okay, the drama hang
on. I'm leaving with the drumma to

1524
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:12,079
do something. I know I was
sleeping, not that the show is and

1525
01:56:12,239 --> 01:56:15,119
he has a job to do.
Matt Maley, thanks for joining us,

1526
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,079
my pleasure, a great great session
here. Did you have a good time.

1527
01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:26,479
I'm glad you enjoyed. I'm glad
you participated. Wei should Where can

1528
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:31,000
people find what you do? I
don't really do much of anything, but

1529
01:56:31,079 --> 01:56:35,159
I do have a YouTube channel with
like four videos on it, so if

1530
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:40,680
you wanted to pok up Matt Mallie. You know my folks song I'm Proud

1531
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,960
of it has this viral with five
hundred views at the moment. Yeah cool.

1532
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:46,279
But you play that all on one
take, which is very impressive.

1533
01:56:47,039 --> 01:56:49,960
Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, yeah, And I honestly I got a pat

1534
01:56:50,039 --> 01:56:54,399
on the back by a couple of
real Fairporters, guys from Fairport Commision,

1535
01:56:54,399 --> 01:56:59,279
including Richard Thompson. Yeah. I
sent Richard an email with a link and

1536
01:56:59,359 --> 01:57:01,279
he's in a mine I've recorded with
him before, and he said that's a

1537
01:57:01,319 --> 01:57:06,279
fine version, and I was made
my year. Richard Thompson has considered one

1538
01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:10,560
of the greatest guitarists of you know, you don't hear his name very much

1539
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:14,319
over here, but he's he's considered
one of the greatest guitarists ever, you

1540
01:57:14,399 --> 01:57:16,239
know, in the rock World's under
the radar. But I've been a fanatic

1541
01:57:16,279 --> 01:57:20,840
since I was about twenty years old. You know. He invented Fairport Convention

1542
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:25,439
first of all, which is like
my religion, you know. So he's

1543
01:57:25,479 --> 01:57:28,399
a hero of mine. And he
gave me a thumbs up, you know,

1544
01:57:28,479 --> 01:57:30,960
I mean, not on the video, but as an email return he

1545
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,800
said, that's a fine rendition of
that. Wow, that's great man.

1546
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,800
That's that's a great compliment. That's
a great comment from a really good musician.

1547
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:41,680
Super well. Thanks for joining us
tonight, Matt. We appreciate it

1548
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:46,640
having me. We're going to clap
for you. We will sweeten it up.

1549
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:50,079
Thank you very much. Okay,
let me take care of the people

1550
01:57:50,079 --> 01:57:59,399
in the studio, says Mike Pool, and thanks for joining us. My

1551
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:06,439
thank you except for thanks oh yeah
that wow? Okay, okay, who's

1552
01:58:06,479 --> 01:58:14,239
driving Lewis? Thankfully? Hellois.
Thanks for joining us, Lois, Oh,

1553
01:58:14,479 --> 01:58:16,800
you're welcome, my pleasure. May
have a very busy schedule. Thanks

1554
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:20,439
for thinking of the time. I
am happy to make time to talk music

1555
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:26,079
or listen to you talking about music. It was very well all of you,

1556
01:58:26,399 --> 01:58:29,520
Yes, I really, except for
Wham. What did I say?

1557
01:58:30,359 --> 01:58:33,680
That's the nice show? You hit
one of my buttons lowest. Oh,

1558
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,159
there you go. That's why I'm
here. Wow, and you talk for

1559
01:58:36,279 --> 01:58:44,720
six hours about whim very man,
as it turns out, very Manilow and

1560
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:49,039
Wallam expose next time. Really yeah, okay, all right, really fascinating.

1561
01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:54,439
I'll turn the mics on for you
and let you have it. Anyway,

1562
01:58:55,359 --> 01:58:58,600
Thanks very much everyone out there joining
us. Thank you one one for

1563
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,800
joining us. Jannie, you're welcome. Are you gonna go see the stones?

1564
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,159
They're gonna again? Talk about the
Velvet Underground. Oh, come on,

1565
01:59:05,479 --> 01:59:09,520
talk about overrated. One of the
things that we didn't get into here

1566
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:14,399
is the most overrated band, unridded, most overrated and not one, not

1567
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,840
the most but among the most overrated
bands ever. And Steve Miller, same

1568
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:23,560
thing. Steve Miller never got it. Come on, not a big Steve.

1569
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,239
Anyway, that's the next show.
Thank you for joining us. Thank

1570
01:59:28,279 --> 01:59:31,479
you everyone out there. Uh listen
to us, joining us for the music

1571
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:34,279
show. And this is MAC for
the entire gang. Until you hear us

1572
01:59:34,319 --> 01:59:39,600
again, be safe, be happy, and bye bye.
