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Well, good evening everyone, Welcome to Macmoney's Mill Track Sauce Show here
on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is mc maloney. Hey, we
have a very special AllMusic show for you tonight. Let me introduce the co
conspirators. Girls, he's here on an off night. Get your fan,
get your mistice, your big blocks to clinics, your big box of wife,
your squeegee and your lube. It's very famous. One one is here.
Wanni do you bet your hello? Mac? Hello, girls, welcome
to the show. It's going to be a fun night tonight, special music
show, special music show. I love these me too. How with things
over there in Old Hampshire. Well, we're cracking on, as they say
in the pubs. You know, we're doing okay. If the government would
just leave us alone, everything would be fine. Really. Yeah, you're
already complaining about the government. You've been there by a year. Yeah.
They got rid of the woman who ran the Home Office. It's like the
Home Office to the UK is like the Secretary of State. Okay, yeah,
well she's kind of important and she's gone and now you're unhappy. Oh
we're happy. Oh, you're happy. Okay. Yeah. Wow. I
was just gonna say, if you said get cracking in an American buy,
it would make some you know, make completely different a completely different meanings.
Yeah. That the phrases crack on even more so. It was intense.
Let me introduce first, thank you one for joining us. Sure in the
studio with us is someone who really comes on the show, though she's been
on the show several times now in the past month. The very famous,
the very lovely Lois Lane. Lois, Hi, everybody, it's nice to
be here. How are you, hi, Lois? Let me clearly,
let me clear that camera shot for you. Okay, how are you tonight?
Lois? I'm doing great. Thanks. You're kind of like a roady
they're helping with our musical set up. Yeah. Yeah, I was definitely
in the roady position today. Wow. Also another joke this somewhere are you
in the union there? Lois? Have you doing this kind of stuff?
If not just helping Mark? Okay that's what they also. Yeah. Also
in the studio with us is the very famous no belly button man. No
uh well, aptly as Mike Poll and Mike, how are you doing good?
Good? Thank you? Nice to be Wow, it's three people in
a two mic studio, all right, and you're gonna be cutting the act,
as Shaggy Green used to say. Right, okay, instead of using
my little two dollars sound effects machine, got a real drum in there on
What are those Ludwig drums? This is a yeah super phone? Oh really,
okay, just give it a try. Let's see what the media says.
Okay, I just said something funny. Yeah, yeah, try,
Okay, that's all right. Three or two? I think I think it's
too. Also with us up in another part of New Hampshire, Barry winning
a ka oh. I won't even say it because he's embarrassed by the character
he used to play on the show. So I'm gonna spare you that,
my friend, Barry wedding. How are you doing, Barry? I am
doing just fine, Mac, and thanks for having me back. Okay.
He fancies himself I mus school expert, and we've had a few uh you
know, showdowns on Zoom uh mostly beatle stuff, and at one point I
was beating him and it was close, but I was beating him in the
in the power went out right before the last crucial question, and he still
to this day. Doesn't believe that it happened, but it's true, Lois
correct. It absolutely happened that way. She rested there, and you know,
I have a feeling that she wouldn't say anything other than that. No,
that's not Wow. I wouldn't lie. I would not lie. Wow.
No, no, no, But there's a little pressure going on.
No, there's no pressure at all, you know, if it wasn't the
truth did be, you know, not pressure you thank you, Barry,
all right? And I did beat you anyway that you'll never believe that part.
I might not be sure, but definitely lost a two, Lois.
Really it's gonna be exciting tonight with those two going. Listen, we have
a special guest, a good friend, Matt Malley out there in La.
How you doing, Matt, Let's flat for him? Recovering rock star?
What are you ad you're recovering rockstar? Is that what you said? It
was once retired, but now it's recovering. I'm a recovering rockstar. Okay,
all right? We count and grows for a lot of years, like
for what the years at least? Right? Yeah? Fourteen years? Okay,
all right? I think we killed to be a rock star. Matt,
you know that thank you one, thank you, there's a good way
to The cup is half full when I look back, is it really?
I know? I know. Is it worth killing for? Or is the
lifestyle worth killing for? Yeah, it's not what you think. I'm here
to tell you. It's a lot of bus driving and a sleepless sleep deprivation
and lights on you with a you know, four twenty thousand people and then
get back on the bus and do it again. Yeah. Yeah, that
would be fun for about three months. But after ten years, yeah,
it starts like Chinese water torture. Yeah yeah, and it never changes.
I'm assuming it's it's just because of it sounds very routine, because just that's
how those things, those tours are. You got to be here, you
got to be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's a machine.
You're just in a machine. Pinture. We got out right with that.
What's that song off which you were here where Roy Harper sings it?
Uh, we call it right in the gravey tray. It's that song is
about exactly about being a rocket, yeah yeah, a gravy train. Right.
Yeah, now you can remember it. But if you're over the and
you've met the Rolling Stones, right, yeah, Okay, now there they're
in a different hung out with them for hung out with them. They're in
a different statusphere, they're in a different kind of strata than I mean,
they just fly to they just fly right. Yeah, they could not have
been nicer. And it dawned on me that when you're at the top of
the mountain, you've got nothing to hide, nothing to defend, you don't
have to be and they were just could not have been nice. Repeat.
Wow, that's good to hear. Yeah. Didn't you tell us ones though
that when they would when they would to to the United States, when they
all just they'd basically just go to Chicago and just fly back to Chicago every
night or something. Yeah, they'd fly our private jet, so their gear
would go from wherever Indianapolis down to New Orleans, the band would fly back
to there. Literally they're probably three month long hotel stint in Chicago, probably
the entire floor, I don't know what. And they would just fly private
to every gig all around the middle of America. It was it was awesome
to watch. Wow, that's crazy. They didn't hang out in the cities.
They were going to play and they would Chicago with hey, yep,
you get on the bus, you get on the plane. You know what
I mean. You got to be somewhere the next night. So but it's
just funny that they go and sleep in Chicago and then get up and just
it'll fly out. Someone that's say, you're you're right, you're on top
of the mountain. What the hell? Why not? You know? No
objected? Who cares exactly exactly? We flew private a couple of times.
I think America Online had us do a corporate gig for them in Idaho.
And I'm here to tell you that flying private, when you see how those
people live. You literally drive out to a local airport, They walk you
out onto the tarmac, take your luggage, you get in the plane and
go. And we flew listen. We left it three in the afternoon from
my house, went to the Van Nuys Airport, which is a half hour
away, played a gig in Idaho, and was back home by ten pm.
Wow, that's how that's how Brad Pitt lives. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Wow. That's when being a rockstar. I guess
it isn't quite so bad if you can get yes. Like my wife always
always says, well, the Rolling Stones don't have a bad All I got
to do is show up all the roadies. You have to do the work.
Look at you. You spent six six days setting up for steel wheels,
and all least the Stones had to do was show up and play.
Lois had a question, Lois, please, I was just going to say,
our first trivia question could be can you name the title of that Pink
Floyd song? M I can hear it into my head? Yep. Well
let's go around the circle and see. Do you know the name that?
Lois? Of course I do. She's a big Pink Floyd apparently. Actually
I don't like Pink Floyd at all. I just know this song? Did
we stop to show you? Does anybody want to wager? I guess what
the name of the album? No? The song he was looking for the
title? I think it's isn't that gravy train? It's that? Or have
a cigar? Does it have a so? Have a cigar? Wins one?
Okay, all right, you'll have to split that one point anyway.
So we just hang around here tonight we're going to be talking music. We
have a bunch of I just have a bunch of fun facts, and you
know, some questions, trivia question and just ask the opinion of everybody of
certain bands and certain performances and stuff. But what we're going to do is
start off the show as we always do it, with a top ten top
ten list read by Lois tonight. Lois, do you have it? Of
course I do? Of course she does. I do. Me jumping right
into it. Yes, I think it is the top ten reasons why the
stones have asked one one to join the band. Okay, we just heard
the news today. Top ten reasons why the stores have asked one on to
join the band. Please start the music, Lois, number ten, You
get ready, mark number ten. He can get the coke? Very important,
I can again, Yes, I'll have six. Please, that's a
number nine please, Lois number nine. I don't know how I get myself
into these things where I have to say stuff like this. But he can
get the hookers, he can get the hookers. I can't believe she read
that. Okay, a few connections there, right, use the same person,
as it turns out, number eight. Please use the pub connections.
You go to the pub and you go into the men's room, and then
you see who's on the list. Okay is that another weird British custom?
On what list? It's a throwback from you know, Alexander the Great.
That's how you did it? Oh, okay, good to know. Let's
see number number eight. I'm right most Number eight is he has vast experience
touring with superstars, as documented in his two thousand page single Space to Opus
Why Rock Needs Me. Yeah, I'll still work on pet Opus pot one.
That's only part one. Next, please, let's we can harvy this
a line my laws. Okay. Number seven. The last time mix stopped
by he fell in love with Winston the Hedgehog and that was it. A
little inside, but okay, it's a good work. Next, please,
he knows CPR. Think about it for a second. Think about it for
a second. He knows CPR. There are eighty year old guys running around
the stage. CPR, Thank you. I got it right away. I
didn't need a PoCA. Next, please also carry oxygen. That's true.
Okay, we are on number five of the top ten reasons why the Rolling
Stones have asked Mom want to join the band. Number five is he has
a quote unquote special in with one with their new opening act, Prince Andrew
and the Sticky Bears also inside in the Long Road for the joke. But
next please, I don't get that one at all. Prince Andrew and all
you have to do is google Prince Andrew and Sticky Bears. You understand good.
He has a collection of I'm seventy two of them. Was he dressed?
Is up every day? Who? Next? Please? Okay? Number
four? He already knows three chords and is working on a fourth. There
you go, yes, all of them in open g by the way.
Next okay? Number three? Five words, A little T and A,
A little A little T m A. Yeah, absolutely very inside. You
don't even know what that means. Keith Rich has wrote a song about his
two daughters. What's what are? The daughter's name is Theodora and Alexandra and
Alison. That's sweet. Well, a lot of people misinterpret the title.
But next please, okay, we're almost there. Number two, someone has
to play the say it we'll bleep it bleeping tambourine. Someone has to play
the tambourine. Okay. And number one reason the Stones asked one one to
join the band. Okay, oh, I thought we were waiting for a
drum roll. The drum roll, I met a number one is Ozzy Osbourne
turned them down? Okay, well, good thing about that is it didn't
take too long. So why don't we do this though? Why don't we
take They couldn't have done anything with os Osbourne? He's old. Had ever
meet him, Matt never never meet that circus? Oh no, I never
met him? Yeah at all. Yeah. There's a video one YouTube.
It's probably twenty years old, maybe maybe a little, and it's the first
time mccontney met Ozzie Osborne. They had never met, and he met and
Ozzie's all over. Ozzie is like the other reason I'm in music and stuff,
and mccontney's like, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, I'm sure
he needs thousands of people like that. But you think those two would have
crossed paths in the first what he is, you know? But they didn't.
You think everyone in rock, everyone Hollywood, everyone thinks that everyone knows
each other. But that's not necessarily the case. Who have you met?
I mean you, Matt, just before we go to break You've talked about
this before, but you met some you know, you used to tell us
about the fratthouse rock that kind of came up when you guys were a big
Yeah, the nineties weren't. I don't look at the nineties as a particularly
excellent time for music in general. You know, everyone was getting their major
label deals. It was the go go nineties, you know, and that
whole grunge thing I didn't relate to very well, even though they were exactly
my age. You know, I was born in sixty three, and the
whole grunge from Seattle that happened, Uh, it just didn't feel like like
something I liked, you know. It felt guttural and simple and uh sloppy
on purpose. Well yeah, yeah, exactly, sloppy on purpose. And
so it's the nineties, you know, but for was your original questions.
So you met up with with like these Hootie and the Blowfish guys, and
they would they they ran into the same lifestyles. You were into it for
spiritual reasons or into it for musical reasons, and they were just kind of
into with for the for the chicks and booze, right yeah, the fire
boy thing, yeah exactly. I didn't make a good band member in the
nineties because I wasn't into that. You know. I was the guy that
went to India and which was cool in the sixties, but by the nineties.
By the nineties, everyone looked at me as like just a simpleton.
Why would I go to India and expect to find something? You know.
Wow, in the nineties, it wasn't cool to go to India. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, in the sixties. In the sixties it was ect
On YouTube, there's a an interview with a guy I think his name is
Paul Saltzman, and he just buy Weirdness, wound up in the same ashram
as the Beatles did in sixty eight in India, became good friends with them,
took pictures of them. But his stories are he took forty pictures and
he says, I became friends with them, so I didn't want to take
pictures of them anymore. And so that's why there isn't very many. But
he has some good stories about their relationships, the kind of people they were.
He really kind of saw them on a level level, if you know
what I mean. Interesting. Paul Saltzman, this is his name. Wow,
So why don't we do this? Why don't we take a break now,
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the Posse Girls. One one is here. Hello, mclee girls, Welcome
back to the show. Also, a good friend up there in the other
part of New Hampshire, Barry win Egg Barry aka troubles Hunt. How are
you doing, Barry? I'm doing just fine. Beatle Expertice talking to you.
Matt Maley. A good friend out there, Matt Malley. You know
how long have we known each other? Matt Matt Malley of Company Cross.
Basically how long we've known each other? At least ten years? Ten,
twelve years? Yeah, twelve years? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, gosh,
okay cool? And I mispronounced your name more than half of those years,
probably right. Why didn't you just correct? Well, you just call
me, Matt. So you know you rarely say I have to say my
last name. Now you told me too that you you also have a dual
Irish citizenship. Yes, proudly I do. I have an Irish passport and
dual citizenship. Hmm okay, grandparents emigrated. Okay, Okay. Yet X
who was on mistakenly earlier in the show. He's the guy who had the
Irish dual citizenship, but because of me, they they made him give it
up. Okay, I think I might have told you that story. He
had to go for a security check every three or four years, and he
put me down as his security check. So they come out to your house
and they just asked you a bunch of questions. I've done it a couple
of times. And the last question they asked me as they're leaving was why
does he go to Ireland so much? And I said, well, I
think he has a dual citizenship and they said, well, you know a
lot of people have that. They don't go over there a couple times a
year. So I said, well, his family owns a castle over there,
which they do. They did, did they did? Okay, Well,
they made him give up his dual citizenship because of his security glance because
the family used to own a castle and that was the only reason. So
by the time he caught up with me, he says, yeah, thanks
a lot, Hey, thank you Mark. Yeah. Well, anyway,
also in the studio with us tonight, no belly button man. Yes on
the drums cutting the actors. They say, that's cutting the actors, right,
Yeah. And also the lovely Lowis Lane Lowis. Hi, everybody,
It's nice to be here. So I'm just gonna throw out a few things,
just talking purely about music tonight, and I just want to throw a
couple of things out. We're talking about the Beatles earlier and watching that guy's
YouTube video about how he just wound up. He was their age who he's
twenty two years old, this Canadian. His girlfriend had left him so he
had to go find himself and he went to this ashern and while they were
there, they wrote forty two songs, and a lot of them wound up
on the White album, as it turns out. So the question is how
long did they stay in the ash room? Is the summer of sixty eight?
Okay, Well, it's open ended. It's not going to be a
multiple choice no, no, no, this isn't a it's not a triba
and just who knows. I was surprised when I heard the answer. Just
take a guess. Not as long as probably we'd think. They wrote forty
two songs. I guess four weeks, four weeks, eight weeks. It
wasn't the year now, eight weeks, eight weeks. Yeah, all right,
couples until John got irritated. Allegedly it's something the maharishi did well.
Ringo was the first to leave because his wife had a bug phobia. She
had a real problem with the bugs there and he had to yeah, sanitize
the hot every night before she did kind of get sleep, and he had
stubbing troubles and the food didn't really agree with him. So he left.
And then a week later the rest of them left, and I think they
was scheduled to leave them. But they did leave on this kind of bad
note because they accused of Maa Harishi of hitting on Mia Farrell's sister, who
is the subject of Dear Prudence the song. But there's some controversy wherever any
of that ever happened to, so yeah, but an interest interest that they
went literally up in the Himalayas close to them and writing in an entire double
album in two months. So, Matt, when you went to India?
Where did you go? H? I've been to Delhi, Nagpur, Mumbai,
Jaipour. I've been up in the Low Himalayas in a city called Dharamsala,
which is about a ten thousand feet north of Delhi. And I've been
all around. I haven't been to South India or Kolkatta, Okay, but
it's to have you have any of you guys ever been there? Any guys
are girl. It's a shock the first time you go, the when the
plane door opens and the heat comes in, and the smells and the and
the poverty level. But then you start to settle in there, and your
relationship with matter starts to relax. Like they don't paint a building unless unless,
I mean they just don't paint a building, and the and if a
car is working, it doesn't have to be in perfect shape. Like here,
if somebody keys your car, you you can't sleep that night. But
their relationship with matter is so much healthier. You know, Uh, you
realize you've been sort of duped. I realize I've been duped to thinking everything
has to be in perfect condition around me, you know. And that was
my one of my first lessons of India and seeing how even though there's poverty,
people are still decent and and then away happier, very cerebral people.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Food is tremendous food six six four six thousand
years in the making, four thousand and six thousand and so they got it
dialed in by now. Yeah yeah, yeah, wow. But but but
it's obviously they do have at the very least a noble population problem, right
yeah. Yeah, it's way over a billion now, it was a billion
in the nineties, probably getting the two billion. So the poverty is shocking,
you know, but again it's it's a you gotta see it if you
get a chance. Yeah, yeah, to Deli. Delhi's got a McDonald's,
so it's the kind of a gateway from we'll take care of them,
right wow, huh interesting, Okay, so sure hamburger is at McDonald's.
I thought beef was a problem as far as he think it. That's if
you're I think, if you're Hindu, or if I don't know, if
there's half vegetarians and half not. And but they're very spect you can't get
rid of the spice. You have a McDonald's hamburger and it's going to burn
your mouth because there there's a little music store in Deli that I would frequent
in the nineties, and in the foyer when you come to this music store
is a picture of the owner with the Beatles selling George Harrison his first sitar.
It's called Ricky Rohms and Deli. And then you look over and there's
the same guy, a little bit older now and he's sitting behind his desk
smiling at you like, yeah, that's me, you know, finding George's
citar, and the Beatles are looking like they do on Beetles six, and
they're just all standing around him getting the first sitar, and it's just mind
blowing. Wow. That is wow, that is crazy. Wow. Yeah,
let me just throw another thing in here. We're talking about the Beatles.
True of falls. John Lennon hated cats. No, that's false.
He was a cat person. Yeah, hmmm, yeah, he loved cats,
loved cats. He was definitely a cat person. He also used to
travel with his what they used to call those motor track things that kids had,
the little race cast slot racing, remember slot racing. Yeah, he
had a he had a huge slot racing set up that he would set up
a lot of places. He brought it with him for the heads at Sullivan
Show and uh set it up in his hotel room. Yeah. Like they
were kind of electrically pow wo race cars that would go like Aurora set right
like that. Yeah, yeah, yea of all the things you've learned,
you learned the hard way, by the way, not to take the curves
too fat. Yeah, you wind up spanishing the car against the wall.
He brought that whole set up and in pieces and set it up. Yeah,
doesn't sound doesn't sound like him, but yes, And just hearing the
notes, have you heard the story about Kyle Palmer's drum set Kyle Palmer's Kyle
Palmer ELPA And remember and when they were Atomic Rooster, Yeah, originally,
And I got a couple of Atomic Rooster albums. I remember those back in
like seventy seventy one, seventy two, right, And wasn't he he was
in Asia too, I think wasn't he the drummer for Asia? Yeah?
So anyway, so when ELP was at the height of their powers, the
just about the start of American tour and the British Steel Corporation or whatever came
to him and they said, we would like to sponsor and we would like
to build you a drum set for you to take on the road, maybe
all steal and you know when you can just as a good promotionals thing for
us. So he says, yeah, sure, why not. So at
this time he had like about forty drums and huge set up and they called
them once and they said, what what wid do you want to steal on
the drums? What with you wanted a half inch? You wanted a quarter
inch and eighth inches? He's like, what do I know? So he
told them at half inch and the thing like came out to weigh eighteen puns
and they needed the hole. They needed like separate track the trailer tracks just
to haul the drums around for the tour. I think probably seventy two US.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a funny guy. He's
the guy who once again, there's a really good documentary on ELP on YouTube,
has some mus on it, but he's kind of like the narrator.
He says, I'm the guy who stood in the middle of those two nuts,
you know, Keith Emerson and Greg Greig Lake. Ye so uh anyway,
both may rest in peace. So they were awesome of players. Our
friend Mike Poolan, here has been no cures to sign like Greg greg Lake
was like one of the best rock voices my pin. Didn't someone tell you?
Yeah, real rich get right on that there, very full rich boys.
Yeah yeah, almost like your strained almost. Uh let's see for us.
Yeah, I loved him. I loved him the most with King Crimson.
But let's face it, that guy was was a good front man for
any band. And he has for me, the best Christmas song ever.
Yeah, oh yeah, best Christmas song ever. When I hear that out
on the radio or a serious XM satellite, it's like that's it. Also
still you turn me on as a really good song, very well put together,
and yeah yeah yeah. We saw them once a long time ago in
Boston Hobo lights, and they were good. They were crazy and and just
on cue Keith Everson's you know keyboard caught on fire and they had to come
out and put it out of you know, when anyone thought it was a
bit because they used to do those things. But all right, so I'm
going to do I'm going to go round the horn here. I'm going to
start with you, Matt, So, what song do you listen to?
Let's call it a guilty pleasure that we would be astonished that you actually like
listen to, like an achie song or something like that. Never my Love
by the Association, an awesome song. Good song. Oh yeah, that's
the association. Does that mean it's not good? No? Yeah, no,
that was good good, that's a beautiful excellent vocalists. Remember a little
while ago, really, yeah, they had some they were big, they
were a big, big, big band boy in the late sixties and yeah,
go ahead, you know it would get you laughed at. Walk on
by by Dionne Warwick. Yeah, very well, put together good, Brett
Backer beautiful yep. Yeah. She was the best interpreter of back backreck music,
Backreck David music. Yep. Ever yeah, I know, I know.
And with that success spawned the the British version of R and B with
Sylla Black and Dusty Springfield taking out some of that tunes. Yeah, I
have appreacha and they did very well with him. Uh huh. Wow,
there's a huge Dusty Springfield there. We should ask Barry if he has either
one of those songs on this jukebox. I'm going to ask about shoebox just
I'll bring it up now. Barry has an incredible juke box and it's filled
with incredible songs. What what kind of juke boxes it for? I know
you were it took you a while to rebuild it, right, yes it
did. And and by the way, just just so you don't think I'm
an amazing guy, Uh, there was a guy. Uh there is a
man named Bob Trotty or an andover a mass and he's the one who actually
got her working again. God knows we So it's a c burg a Y
one sixty, which means it plays eighty records, two sides. It's nineteen
sixty one. It's the only thing in the house older than me, but
only slightly. Wow. First year of stereo sound and last year of visible
mechanism. And I swear to god, I don't understand why they ever made
a jukebox where you could not see the record being played. You don't know.
How do they turn into furniture guys? Yeah, but they did.
I don't know. But watching the record play, watching the records like the
yea grabs it puts it. It's vertical, puts it, puts the horizontal
tonam comes down, hits it right on the mark. Bingo bango. Some
of them play, some of them play. The mechanics. It's so mechanical.
It's unbelievable how it all works. I mean, to watch it work
is half the fun, you know, I don't. I don't know why
they would cover that up. So so tell us some of the you had.
I know you have a Beatles forty five from Uruguay in there, right,
Yeah, Well, actually no, I have. I have a couple
of albums from Uruguay. I have Abbey Roads from Uruguay, and I have
Yellow Submarine Soundtrack from Uruguay. But my son from Tokyo came with a couple
of things from me that were on the Odeon label. So that's Japan.
He brought me I Feel Fine and She Loves You m m. That was
in February. That nice. Yeah, huh, yeah, I saw somewhere.
I saw it. And She Loves You was on Swan Records here in
the United States. Yes, it was, by the way, the cool
I have that, Oh do you I do? I have the Swan releases.
I got VJ. Releases, forty five MLP and uh Tlly Records,
was P s I Love You and Love Me do got that? And those
are the three independent labels that was before Capitola the Capital and these guys uh
and the Swan The Swan record. On the label, it says, don't
drop out of what dig up the record for event to go up and upstairs
in the bed, don't drop out of forty five cases of Life, don't
drop out of Life of school, turn in, turn up on, tune
in and drop out. That's right. Yeah, it says don't drop out
right, all right, you're killing me. It's a DJ thing and I
swear to god, I wish I remembered what it meant. I think it's
because of the way it ends. It doesn't what you would do with the
next might not have a fade, Yeah, I might not have a fade.
Yeah that's not what That's not what it means on the lay though.
But you're right about there's a dead hippie on the label. So what's the
expression for a cold ending? Yeah? Cold ending? Yeah, yeah,
heart stop Yeah. I'm gonna throw the question lois now. But there's nothing
that she could thought that would embarrass her. But what what? What song
are you listening to? THEO would we'd be embarrassed. But Barry didn't answer
that question. He just started talking about his jukebox. What's his guilty pleasure?
It's only a two hour show. Go ahead, Barry, all right,
you don't get to answer the question, all right, So everyone in
Boston's gonna hate me. I am not a big Neil Diamond fan. However,
what are you gonna do with Sweet Caroline? When it gets to the
chorus, you have no choice. You end up singing ye. So yes,
I have a copy of Sweet Caroline on the juke right now, Okay,
whether I want to or not? Okay, in Boston too if for
those of you who don't I know what that reference is? Is that for
you is in the seventh inning stretch at the Feenery Park with a Red Sox
play, they would play Sweet Caroline and when they got to that point,
people would start singing whoa, whoa, whoa, right until Neil Diamond's business
people got a hold and they go, what theever is this? You've even
playing our song for years and years and years with no woryalty payments. So
they had some kind of a controversy. They came up with some figure and
Neil demon donated it to some charity and then he did come and sing the
song at one time, kind of out of the bloom. Yeah. Yeah,
he was nice about it. But I admire that guy, not because
he made He wrote a lot of great songs for himself. He wrote a
lot of monkey songs and songs for other people. But he came out of
the Brill building. He was like a songwriter of the Brill Building who became
an entertainer, you know, like Meils Doctor and Carol King and those people.
You know, that's the real birthplace for a music. It's amazing.
Yeah, the Sweet Caroline has sung in every football stadium yeah somewhere right the
US cause of soccer football all over the place in the UK and Rods do
it. Sang it during the Queen's Jubilee. Wow man a couple of years
ago, seize the royalties? Poor, I said, what's up with Sweet
Caroline in the UK? Yeah? Really, they don't do the they don't
do the well well whoa, okay, don't do it. Don't really do
that part? Right, Well, we'll look at the Queens song we Will
Rock You it opens up every you know, supposedly soccer game, every Hooligan
soccer game, and in the yeah yeah, some places they don't let them
play it, so one I should I know, I'm okay, I'm going
to ask you them, Lois and then Mark, what's your what song would
you be embarrassed by? None of them really? No one knew? Well,
okay, so a song that it's just been on my mind a lot
lately because I recently heard it and I love It's called It's Lovely Day by
Bill Withers. I think, you know, but that's embarrassing. Yeah,
I just want to look at you going to be I love it. But
the version I really like of that is the one I don't know if anybody
saw the This is the inauguration concert, Yeah, the most recent one,
the most recent one. They have this beautiful version because they had to do
everything virtually and I forgot the name of the singer who does it. But
it's just a beautiful version and the picture, you know, the video that
goes with it is just lovely, all these people dancing to it. So
anyway, I kind of I will look that up once in a while and
just rewatch it. But a song that would be embarrassing to tell people I
like and apparently I'm going to do that now I think you already have,
but go ahead. It's the song Wake me up before you go go oh
oh, I love it. I love it because I just want to dance
a grand fan. You're a fan, well, you know, oh my
god, I haven't run. It's so fun right. Well and has the
T shirt? Yeah, huh, I don't get his T shirt. He's
going wow. Let me just really quickly tell you the bill with his song,
do you know the bill with a story? You know what happened how
he became famous. No, so he was just some construction where a car
worker, I believe, autoworker, and taught himself how to play the guitar.
And at the time, there was a show on This is really sixties
now called Room two twenty two and it was about like an in a city,
you know, teacher's drama. There was a woman on it that show,
by the way, her name was Denise Nichols, and she was she
was like the star, the female star, and he fell in love with
her, became a musician, became you know, uh popular to just for
that to meet her to get the chance to meet her, He meets her,
they get married, and then the divorced like about nine months later.
What that one? In the middle of that one, one was showing us
his whim album. So if a whim album or was a whim t shirt,
he's got the album. Wow, make it, make it, make
it, make it big boy? How long they spend on that title to
three seconds? Make it big? Really? He's a sad guy, yeah,
he was? Ever did go ahead? Careless whisper a huge, huge
whisper. It reminds me of a love relationship I had and I kind of
really uh sort of blew her off. And it's that if you watch that
video and listen to that story. Wow, okay, it's like I still
get into tears when I see when I see or hear careless Whisper. Really
yeah, huh okay, A long version. Yeah, there's there's too many
jokes they had account so we're not going to go into any of them.
But it was too bad to the way that that guy into because he actually
had a lot of big hits. What's judge Michael and didn't had but but
he was you know, he had his own personal demons let's say, and
when he died, his mother was a nurse and he gave like some astronomical
amount of money to the nurse's charity fund of the UK, like a million
dollars or something. Almost all his money to these people. His mother used
to worry for us. He couldn't have been that bad of a guy.
But that show biz. Do you ever meet him? Mate, Matt Did
you ever meet judge Michael Whim? Didn't meet anybody Whim I met? There's
still time playne do you member? I was. I was backstage. We
were getting ready to start the load out, and the load out was going
to commence right after the the encore. Just gather around and uh, you
know, you know you're going to be watching the encore. You're gonna be
backstage, gready to go to work. And George Mike was back there for
a while and I just said George. He said he was just chilling,
you know, And then he went on and did an encourse like awesome.
He said, what did he say, Michael, don'tmost be in the eye.
Uh some really sexy tunes back in the nineties. Yes, very successful
guy, Yeah, no doubt about it. Let me just I remember when
I worked at the radio station, I used to play Father Figure a lot.
There's something about it that the musical, the musicality of it was really
good, really good production. Well there's a lot of yeah, yep.
I mean just talking real quick about the sixties and the seventies. I mean
we used to you turn on the radio AM radio, you'd hear the Beatles,
the Stones, but then you'd hear Louis Armstrong, you'd hear Motown,
you'd hear her of Albert, you'd hear her everything, Franks everything, you
know, And the f M radio kind of ruined that way in a way
because from radio, you know, put everything in kind of you know boxes
as they say, and put it in demographic category. Yeah, and its
just but it never was it that kind of general and you get to kind
of like everything, which was kind of cool. So Mark Pullman, what
song would you listen to that we'd be embarrassed, mister dying by the critics?
Yeah, I remember a little Yeah, yeah, whent' they a local
band went They from Saleing or someplace. Teddy and the Pandas were from TV,
right, yeah, huh okay, Well that is embarrassing. Give yourself.
Yeah, wow. Okay, so it didn't come to me yet,
you know it did not? All what do you got so favorite song?
People would be surprised by that. My number one favorite song, my number
one favorite song, believe it or not, is a disco inferno by the
Tramps. I love that song. Matt, you gotta go with me in
general. No, no, no, that's a great bassline, isn't it,
Matt? You know that song? I mean that was I haven't closely,
but it is a good song. Yeah, yeah, it was just
a good disco song. Then the and I know that because it's the when
I joined is it Piandora? What is that? Uh? That music service
Spotify? That's the first song I bought I got okay, And the second
was Crazy Trained by Ossie Osbourne, which is also an excellent song. Remember
bj Thomas do you remember that guy in my head? But he also sang
that ye New York Woman, New York Woman he did, which was really
good. And then there was another song called Well. He did a bunch
of songs and sometimes I listen to those songs. Maybe it's just to bring
me back to that time, but wow, that is But I also like
like venture songs. My brother used to play Ventures music before the Beatles even
came out, and so I like that kind of out of limits and the
twilight Zone theme and that kind of stuff. Walk Don't Run, Walk Don't
Run had an album. I had a vinyl album called Play Guitar with the
Ventures. Oh yeah, sure, we had that record set and I lost
it. I don't know what. I don't know what happened to it.
I tried it. It didn't work, a good record. And they had
the sheet music, but in the simplified the sheet music, you could play
the lead part, the bass line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
like songs they were doing, remember that. I like about four songs that
the right and then we'd actually they would play the song without the bass,
and people say, what's the and I understand, Well, you hear a
song about the bass, you know what the basis. You know what I
mean. And if you hear a song without a rhythm guitar, you know
what it is. You know, it's just that one. They're all put
together. So uh time, I'm putting it all together. Why don't we
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do you have for you tonight? In all musical show Girls, the version
most one one to see Hello, Hello girls, Hello everybody, Glad to
be here, glad to be anywhere. Good friend Barry will in the AKA
is here, Barry, how you doing. I'm doing fine. I'm doing
fine, counting music. Also in the studio with us is the very very
lovely Lowest Lane. I get time time when I think of you, my
dear Hi, everybody. It's nice to be here for this all musical extravaganza
and cutting the act for us as Mac Poling aka No Belly Button Man.
Hey all doing? Uh? How you about all week? When you let
the drums you're talking for It's all I have to do right pay for anyway.
Also with us is a good friend out there in l A Matt Malley,
Matt, how you doing? Doing good? Having fun? That this
one that stops being fun? Then we can wrap the show. So you
have a video on YouTube where you're doing an Irish song, piano song.
It's very nice. You almost have an Irish accent to what's the name of
that song again, It's called the Hills of Green Moore. And I'm a
folk fanatic of UK, you know right where one is now the music of
the sixties and seventies like Fairpoaugh, Convention and steel Ie Spanel. That's my
religion, my musical religion. Yeah, yeah, And so I got a
piano recently, and I just started playing the songs I love on the piano.
So I did a version of Well. I did a homage to Steeleye
SPAN's version of the Hills of Green Moore. It's a two hundred year old
song, and I put it on YouTube. I rarely put things on YouTube,
but I put it up there. So how long Now you're a really
good bass player, does that help you in learning how to play the piano?
Yeah, honestly, the piano came first. I was learning piano in
nineteen seventy at seven years old, and I was learning classical music on piano
and I absolutely hated it, and I quit after a couple of years.
And they told me you're gonna regret it, and they were right. I
should have stayed with it. But piano was my instrument first, right,
Okay, all right? So how long does it take you to put together
a song like that? I mean, is it a day or a week,
a month? I took a couple of weeks, maybe three weeks,
playing it all the time every day, trying to work it out because it's
arranged for guitar originally. So so I've been kind of doing folk arrangements on
piano. So thinking of ultimately having a YouTube channel of just folk piano arrangements,
that'd be good. So the reason I ask is, you know,
we see pond of your house there and you looking at it. You live
in a very cool pad as it looks like in the background there, So
tell us a little bit about your house because it had an interesting previous owner.
Yeah. The last guy that owned it as a very famous recording engineer
who passed away named Bruce Swedeen, and he's engineered Michael Jackson records. He's
recorded Barbara Streissan, Paul McCartney. So he had built a free standing studio
building on the property. It's five acres our property, so about the size
of an aircraft carrier. So yeah, So Bruce, I talked to him
once about ten twelve years ago because he left a plate reverb in the attic
of the studio and asked him if he wanted it, but he told me
he couldn't get it out unless we did demolition on the ceiling. We could
get it down, and that was the last I talked to him because I
didn't want to pay for demolition of the house either. Inherited a plate reverb,
So the studio was still there. And did he record Michael Jackson there?
Did he mix him or you know, I think he did mixing in
that place. I'm not sure if Michael's ever been there. There's a book
he wrote called Make Mine Music by Bruce Whitten, and there's a on one
of the pages it's got him sitting right outside of my studio with David Hasselhoff
of all people. Yes, David Hasselhoff, Yes, yes, So he
mixed David Hasselhoff's records. David apparently a huge in Austria and as a recording
artist, and he recorded his records I guess here at my property back in
the nineties. Well okay, yeah, well that's good. And and I've
been reading just lately, you know, books by producers and engineers and mixes
and and an engineer, especially as it turns out, it's very important to
how the record turns out. You know, people think of the producer and
you can see that, but the sound comes from the engineer, now I
can see that. And especially the Bealls engineers. You know, they've written
a couple of books. But I'm reading this one by Bill I forget.
I'm not even sure how you spent say his name Bill Sweeten, Swezen.
He did a lot of total records. He did Pablo Cruz, you know,
he was back in that era. Just a lot of the anecdotes about
you know how you know, you can argue with the producer, you can
argue with the band, you can argue with the song, but the engineering
has to be just right. If it doesn't, I'm good and it's not
going to go anywhere, you know, so interesting, Yeah, yeah,
Well, and what do you think of Michael Jackson? Matt, I mean,
what do you think of his music? Well, I've fallen in love
with a song of his called Man in the Mirror, and as a recorded
piece of music, I think it's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.
And also he invented that hole grunner. For everyone from Justin Timberlake to
Beyonce, they have Michael Jackson to think for inventing that is right. Yeah,
I mean, he's just you know, I mean the Widow beyond Words.
But he also did a song when he did Off the Wall with Quincy
Jones, is a really good album and there's a lot of kind of innovative
stuff in that and there's a lot of really good songs on that. Off
the Wall is a really good song, you know, and that was like
before he really like hit big big. You know, he was big,
but he wasn't big yet, you know. Yeah, And I think that's
you know, I've listened to that album a few times and really well put
together. Quincy Jones. You can you know, hear his touch in it
and stuff, and just a lot of a lot of what we would call
harmonies, but it's Michael Jackson just kind of providing his own harmonies and the
yipping and stuff and very well done, you know, really well done.
Well. Yeah, is that the one with rock with you? Right?
Yeah, that's a great song. Yeah, yeah, before you hit it
really big. Yeah yeah, MTV and you really kind of put them over
the top. And there's some that's the thriller out that we're talking about Off
the Wall, the one before Off the Wall, okay, and it's Quincy
Jones a thriller as well, didn't he get yeah oh yeah, oh yeah,
I mean that was his. I mean they came up not together.
Quincy Jones was well known about. Quincy Jones. Didn't really that he also
hit it big on that stuff, but it became too not dance oriented,
but he became too electronic or something. You know when off the Wall they
have everything in there. There's real Hans, his banjo's and you know that
kind of stuff. You know, he put that kind of music together.
And I know, I think most of Thriller was done on since a couple
of you know, I'm so and there's a tree on in Neverland where he
used to or so he said, would climb up in the tree and write
his songs, you know, and I'm sure to him too, they'd say,
hey, we need a new single whatever, and he this tree and
come up with the songs and come up with the bahamanees and stuff. And
and someone figured out that he wrote more than a billion dollars worth of music
sitting on that tree. You know. Too bad. He wasn't a normal
guy, you know what I mean to me, he just couldn't have been
a good guy and not a freak. He'd be like Smoking Robinson or someone.
He'd be revered, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
okay to be a little weird, but to be a child molester, that
it's true, and that's that's actually a monster. Yeah, And he's yeah,
and that was like the beginning of it too, and not the beginning
of it that's really bad. But he's just a strange guy, you know.
And and I'm gonna I don't mean to jump in, but that actually
cries out for I think a normal like a normal childhood. Yeah way,
And I wonder who he would have been with if he had had a normal
childhood, right, maybe some normal friends in the business that looking just out
to hang on with him. And this, you know, money from the
guy by you like, Prince seemed to be in the same boat as far
as not having the right acquaintances the people helping him. He had people that
were hurting him, not helping him. And Michael Jackson I think was in
the same boat was father. Michael Jackson's father is you know, he's the
he's the one that you know, is responsible for a lot of that because
you know, he treated those kids, I mean, the Jackson five.
You know, they were basically stage kids from you know, when they were
the little kids, and they made it, you know what I mean.
And that's the thing is that they actually made it. Was just made them
monster, even even kind of worse. It's the same as Mary Wilson and
the Beach Boys. You know, that guy was a real great a prick
man, but he created the Beach Boys. I mean, you know,
it's it's it's kind of strange how sometimes that happens. But and look at
Brian Wilson, you know, he's a mess. So there's a documentary on
Netflix about Robbie Williams. Do you know about that at all? Yeah,
no, he's no, I don't know. He's in the UK, right,
He's a UK singer. He was huge in the UK and just didn't
make it in America. It's okay, late nineties up until about twenty ten,
and he would sell out stadiums by himself. He started off and take
that the boy band from the UK Oh okay, yeah, I remember that.
And then Robbie left and became a superstar. And he's very authentic as
a character as a personality, and he's talking about how he didn't know who
is his best friends are and why are they his friends? And who does
he trust? So that's the first mind screw you know of that kind of
fame. Start to feel a bone, I guess, yeah, yeah,
especially when you're start young too. That's another thing you know. I mean,
look at Britney Spears for instance. Yeah, she went nuts after ten
years and she started as a kid. Yeah it's it's as you say,
Mad, It's not when you think it is. Yeah. I'm just a
bass player in a nineties major label band. I'm not even anywhere near the
level of superstardom, but I got a taste of what the machine does and
what they do to you. They put you on the road and make you
work. You know, fun again, it's fun for about three months,
but the ten years after that it suck. Counting Crows some fantastic success.
When when Counting Crows Jane's addiction Allison Chang, Yeah, you know, mixed
in with that, I'm going, hey, mister Jones, I could listen
to that song all day long. You probably got sick of playing it.
I loved it. Yeah, it's a good song in the first record is
a good record. So I listened to that record a lot. I listened
to that. I have that on Spotify too, and so when that comes
on, I always listened to it, and I always remember you saying play
the bass behind the beat, and I can hear that and I almost understand
that now. But it makes the sound. It makes the song like groovy.
You know, it's a little more swing or something. You know,
if you're just a little bit behind and all behind the drums, they are
just almost late with the drum. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. It's
funny. But when you listen to it isn't like you're doing it. It's
like that's the way the song goes. So that's another thing I just want
to throw a while, so sorry. YouTube video on. I think his
name is Teddy Todsco. He was one of the Wrecking Crew. He was
a guitar player for the Wrecking Crew. I hope I said his name right.
But his son has a film out and now they've broken it up into
YouTube segments. And the record crew was interesting for people don't know. It's
like in the early sixties there were bands like well we're talking about the Association,
the Beach Boys and Sunny and Cheer and everybody where if they might be
a band. But the record company was like, we're not going to waste
money in these garage players playing these songs. Bring them in. And the
record crew is this bunch of session musicians and they would come up with the
song like that. The whole sound of the Beach Boys is the record crew
is basically Carol Kay and bass. You know that's that's kind of like the
Beach the Beach Boys sound, you know, So do you so in Hal
Blaine, who was the drummer. You know, someone said, you know,
I realized when I met hal Blaine he was like, you know,
all of my top ten drummers. You know, he would play different styles
and so on. But the Monkey is on the one someone went Taggedlong too
a monkey session and the Wrecking Crew is playing the music. At that point,
the secret was out. So my question is, Matt, I'm gonna
throw to you for us. Was that wrong? Was that for them not
to say that other people are playing the music? Is that right? Wrong?
It was a different era, you know, it was before bands became
bands where you really in fact, it was before the singer songwriter era where
the songwriter people the artists wrote their own songs. The early sixties was before
that, Like you said, the Brill Building and Carol King and James Taylor
and you know, Neil Diamond. They would write songs for people so they
could go out and sing their songs, and all the songwriters got rich and
all the artists got famous, and all of a sudden you got Jim Crochey,
James Taylor, actually, you know Cat Stevens. Around nineteen seventy everyone
started, all the artists started to write their own songs. Yeah yeah,
sure, yeah yeah. But the people like the Wrecking Crew were from an
era where you know, these guys can play this music way better than the
band, right, and quicker and cheaper and yeah, good done. Quicker
and cheaper because studio time is money, so they go in and knock it
out. That's why they were called the Wrecking Crew. And the songs were
completely awesome. They were always awesome. It sounded different. So you take
this same band now and they do all the Beach Boys song okay, which
in the Beach Boys you see them play live and they're not that bad bad,
but you know this is where they kind of get this sound. The
same band plays Macantha Park, literally the same band the people. That's how
good they were, you know. And someone said, they said, you
don't win there just because these guys can play it. You go in there
because they'll put the song together for you, like they will arrange the song
for you, which is you know, also very architect. Your the architect
is the word. Yes, yeah, yeah. Campbell was part of the
record like Campbell. Yeah, it was a great guitar and Captain the Captain
of Captain toil Sonny and Cheer. They were there all the time singing on
stuff. I love that documentary where the bassic player was named Carolka. How
she dreamed up that opening bassline for Glenn Campbell. Was that Lineman of the
County which yet yeah boom boom boom yep. Yeah, it's also one of
the great songs of all times, those songs, those those Jimmy web songs.
We saw Jimmy Webb in concert once. Lois and I that guy,
he's the most He has the most terrible voice. To go on stage with
that voice is takes a lot of balls, man, a lot of really
good songs, good stories in between. He can't sing with ship man.
He's and we met him after was he's kind of a funny guy from the
South Texas County. You know, funny guy he was. He was good,
but he was a little quirky. But man, those songs Wichita Lineman.
By the time I get the feet he didn't write down. Uh,
he had two or three of them up Galveston, another great song just and
he was such a great guitar player too. But I'm going to bury you
O, the you O the uh. You're the conscience here on one of
them? Is it is? It? Is it with the Monkey's wrong for
not letting people know that they didn't pay their play their instruments. Now I'm
gonna go I'm gonna go with what Matt said. I think going back then,
I don't know how much was expected of them. I mean, people
weren't purists like they are now. Remember how upset we all got over Milly
Vanelli. Because by the time you get to that point, more is expected.
Whereas back when the Monkeys did what they did, I don't think much.
I don't think that much was expected. I don't really think anybody cared
until uh, they were starting to announce a tour with Jimmy Hendrix supporting the
tour open for them and put that ticket together. He knew that, knew
that he was a songwriter Ronstad and the Stone Ponies. I believe, yes,
yep, I saw that that's actually a different, different drum right,
Yeah, Mike Netmuth, Mike Nes Sorry, Mike he was legit. Yeah,
he was a songwriter before they joined. Yeah, I saw them in
concert. I told you that they opened for the Doors. I saw the
Doors in nineteen sixty nine or seventy at the old Beacon Theater in Boston and
the doors weren't that good. They weren't that good, I got to tell
you. And Ione was there to hear them play Light My Fire and you
know. But anyway, but the opening act was Stone Ponies hit. Yeah
that was and maybe they were thrown out the road, I don't know,
but the Stone Ponies open from when Linda ron Stat with the two guys from
the Eagles for her guitar players, and she had that different drum song.
But she came out she was very angelic and you know, saying like four
or five sons. Then she's gone, you know, a year later.
You know, she's like a big star of becoming a big star. So
gave me goosebumps. I bought a lot of her records and just playing them,
just looking at the album covers. Oh yeah, okay, I'd have
to say that some of her covers, I mean, her covers are right
up there with the originals. Some of her covers you're talking about saying a
lot. No one can hardly anyone can pull something like that off. I
thought you're talking about the photo on the cover of her album. You're talking
about something else. Me. Okay, all right, here's another question.
We gonna throw this out, true or false, Lois, she'll be interested
in this. Rod Stewart's wife is a cop. Yeah, wow, his
current wife. His current wife is a cop. She's a policewoman. And
they a little wherever they live. And it's had herman online, you know,
and like the Daily Mirror or something wand but I get it on my
news feed and she's got some guy on the ground. She's coughing. Hm
hm really really yeah, Well you'd find in the Daily Mirror or the Daily
Mayo. Yeah, one of those, Yeah, one of those. Yeah,
yeah, what an odd thing, you know. Anyway, you know,
Harrison Ford is a actual rescue helicopter pilot. So imagine being rescued by
Harrison Ford. Is that what he does? Yeah? Really hmmm, Yeah,
that would be weird, wouldn't it. Yeah? What's his name?
David Lee Roth was e M T for a long time, and I think
in New York City. His father was a doctor and I don't know,
he was in the EMT for a while. So these that picking this out
of you. There's going to be this tour next summer of yeah, like
it's kind of like a Van Haynes One kind of reunion or something like that
without those guys. And I think Sammy and David David Lee Roth right,
that's whether they agree to it, yep. But it's also Joe Satriani who's
just like way way out guitar player, mikee Only Anthony the bass player of
Van Hallen, and they wanted Jason Bonham, who's John Bonham's son, who's
also a really good drummer. Excellent. Yeah, that's a huge inact.
My brother got tickets for it. It's it's like in Austin. He's already
going to got the tickets. So it's that's going to be a big tour.
We're they going to be at the at the at the Yeah. No,
there was the thing that used to be you know, Down's Twitter Center.
It's down the Twitter Center used to be Great Woods. So anyway,
okay, so the Tweeter Center, I don't know now it's called gone for
so long, okay, Twitter Tweeter Great Woods. I'm gonna put this to
Barret. I call it Great Woods all the time. Yeah, everyone takes
the kids to the WC and River Rapes down there, a great place.
We went in there one bands. I saw Premus down there. We went
in there. I can't stand those guys. We went in there once.
Patrick Moras, who's a friend of ours, friend of Matt's, got us
tickets to a yeah show at Great Woods. No. If you can imagine
Matt and Barry, it's a big it's an outdoor place, probably sits I
don't know, ten thousand and then you sit on the lawn. It's it's
the big place to go. It's a cool it's a pretty good menu.
So we go there and at the time I wasn't smoking pot, but I
said, well, we have to kind of enjoy ourselves, so why don't
we just we're going to go in the press pot. I shouldn't tell the
story, I don't think, but in the press pot, and we'll just
going to lose their passport because they heard this. There you go. They
never say never. So we said, well, just got a bunch of
nips of Jack Daniels and I had a pair of Cargo pants, so I
just like put them down my pockets and stuff. Right, So we go.
It's my friend Mike and his friend Red, and Red and I are
going to Mike is the driver. So we think we're just going to walls
In with our press pass. Well, they're frisking the press. This is
how this place says, right, well, what are we going to do?
So we just drank it, you know, We just like drank the
eight little nips of Jack Daniels and then we went in and we are like
and then we go backstage, you know, and they have food and more
booze there, which we don't need. But the funny part about this is,
so I'm just like drunk the whole time, you know the story.
She's looking at me like I have no idea. She's got the look saying,
I haven't heard this story before, You'll remember it, you remember it.
I'm gonna work my stuff out of this. I only heard parts.
No, here we go. So there's a lot of really funny pots about
this story. But anyway, at the end of the show, at the
end of the show, because Patrick gave us four passes and we only used
three of them, so I'm thinking wouldn't it be good if I can give
this pass to somebody and they can go backstage head to meet and greet,
you know, after the show type of thing. So I see this guy
coming along in a wheelchair. If someone's pushing him in a wheelchair, he's
got a yes, you know, share it on and he's been to the
show, so he's so I just go up to the guy and I am
loaded, loaded, and I said, listen, I don't know if they're
going to let both of you win, but here's a press pass. Maybe
you can get in to see the band with this guy. He had als,
so and then that was it. I just leave them in the crowd.
And two and I go in and we go in and you know,
we meet the band. So one at the ramp and here comes the guy
in the wheelchair and his friend pushed him. They let him in. He
comes around and he comes to the front door and it's on a ramp and
who comes up with John Anderson. Okay, and this guy is like seeing
God for this guy. He freaks out. But when they did it,
they put the wheelchair up in the ramp and it went right, and I'm
like, toe you remember this one? Good. And it stayed there for
like five minutes because this guy, you know, he was like, and
I'm not going to break this up, right, And they moved the wheelchair
back and forth and it's like crush. Johnny asked it was he was a
nice guy to this guy. This guy was you know, I had seen
better days, let's say, but he was just really enthralled. And that
was when I met Alan White, and I figured I have one question to
ask him. So I said what was because he played with John Lennon?
And I said, what was John Lennon like? And he said, kind
of in one word? What was John Lennon like? He says, can
I use two words? I said, yeah? He said, my hero.
Mm it's nice. I'm sorry, what are you playing it? Anyway?
Yeah? Yeah, that was a moment. So any emotional plastic was
a plastic on a band. One of Alan White's best gigs. I really
like. I really liked the Plastic to a band. They were good.
They made good record without the that Live in Toronto, that album. He
just saw him playing somewhere and Alan White and John Lennon like the way he
played, and so he would He played on all you know a lot of
John Lennon. You know, just look John Lennon song solo songs, and
then all of a sudden he's playing with yes where you have to really play
to a huge you know, a stadium rock you know what I mean,
which is kind of different, you know. So he got he got really
good song structures too, because Bill Brufftt was the drummer and everyone just admire
him, you know, and he was a great jazz drummer, great drummer
for that band. But Elan White was a different kind of drum but he
really kind of grew into it, and he played a lot of synthesizer on
those songs. So is it trinsic? Oh right, let's see what do
we have in the magic list here? You said you were going to ask
Barry sometimes I was going to ask Barry. Okay, here we go.
Barry. Is Brian Wilson a genius? Wow? Wow? H? I
call him more of a savant? Well, how about this. Savants are
also geniuses, So I don't I can't imagine what it's like to produce that
kind of music with everything he's gone through plus through one ear. So yeah,
he's a genius. What do you mean? One ear definitely one.
I didn't know that. Hey, Matt, what do you say? I'm
going to go around the around the one in this one, Matt. Is
he a genius? Bryan Wilson, Yes, but but I agree with Barry
there. He's a genius. I mean he he's a genius because he wrote
songs with chords that wrapped around like a pretzel and yet sounded simple, and
that is a genius to do that. And the harmonies are supposedly you heard
the harmonies in his head, and you know, so on you know,
I think that I think that you know, pet sounds, pet sounds.
As always they always say, well, you know, Sergeant Pepper is based
on pet sounds. They heard pet sounds and it was so good that they
wanted to if you hear pet sounds, it's it's it's okay, it's not.
It's not this great groundbreaking thing. It has two good songs on it,
two or three, but there's some filler in there too, you know.
So I don't know, and they throw that whole thing around. Brian
Weston's a genius. He's great. He's really really good, really good,
and he and he wrote mockatable songs that everyone knew, and anytime you hear
the Beachways, you know it's them, and that's the most important thing,
you know. Yeah, it's a genius. I don't know. Yeah,
Sergeant Pepper to pest sounds to me, like you say, pest sounds has
a lot of filler. Sergeant Pepper has no filler. In fact, nothing
in the Beatles catalog is filling, really not. There's no mediocre moments anywhere,
and that's why no one compares to them. You know, I'm gonna
uh, I'm gonna go ask one one the same thing. So are you
a beach boy guy? We've ever tied the beach Boys before? I always
liked the beach Boys? Yeah, I mean there were pre Beatles that was
interesting and they had some really you know like this. I like their hot
Rody era, like the Surfi or yeah yeah, yeah, like those themes.
M But they changed too, you know what I mean. Cars,
you can't knock that right right, it out for you in such a way
that it just said take me there. Do I have to go to California
for this? No? I can find it right here in Massachusetts on a
black areas on for a second, and the bids they call it Tits and
Tires song. Didn't hear that? That's good. Get backed up the table,
thank you man the drum, I didn't hear that. Wow. Okay,
all right, so okay. The Beach Boys established a whole lifestyle around
their music, right. See, that's what they did, right. They
have party with the Beach Boys, surf with the Beach Boys. You're in
California with the Beach Boys, and when you're sitting in like cold old Boston
and the boys, isn't going to be fun? Yes? Right, Yeah,
they've found the fun. There's a song right there. You see them
now, and there's like nineteen people on stage with them. It's it's unbelievable.
They have like a guitar players and it's really kind of crazy. And
the whole situation between Brian Wilson and the rest of them is really odd.
You know, they you know, seeing each other and stuff like that.
But I'm going to ask one more question. I'm going to ask you to
everybody suing each other. I think that's the thing to do. Hallo Oates
suing John Oates. I just read that as a restraining order against him.
Yeah, and I have I've read John Oates's book. Lois bought me.
She says, I know you like Daryl Hall because of that Darryl's House,
which is a really good show, and and so she bought me. Uh
you thought it was Darryl's book, but it was it was John Oates's book,
remember that. Huh? No, yes, I mean I did buy
it for you, but I knew it was Daryl know so. But he's
a really interesting guy, John Oates, you know. And but I could
see how they had different people. They would never really songwriting potts. There
were business potts because the record they want to put together an now call Holling
Oats as if you're carrying oats, Holling Oats, get it. And you
know, they just basically included their own songs. They get a little bit
more popular pop and then MTV hits and bang they're everywhere. You know,
they're everywhere, those stars. And yeah, there were business partners, you
know, And I can see why they'd be at each other's throats. But
at one one, I'm going to just ask you something, okay, and
then we're going to get into the who do you think of better musicians?
The Beatles or the Rolling Stones? This might be fighting words better musicians.
Yikes. I kind of leaned towards the Rolling Stones because of it. When
you talk about musicians, I'm talking about the two guitar players. I think,
uh, the Rolling Stones had a good history of having good guitar players.
In addition to Keith Richards, who is my man. Yes, they
had Mick Taylor, who I thought was one of the best guitar players around
as a member of the Rolling Stones. Didn't really fit in, didn't fit
in. Awesome career, yep, right, yeah, but an odd guy
out in the in the in the band, if you know what I mean,
odd guy odd Whenever you listen to an album that Mick Taylor is in,
it's wicked good. It's all guitars, all this like kind of lead
guitar stuff. And I mean they're not really with Keith Richards all day love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think the shout out of Weaving
they had it down pat yeah, and so does he and Ronnie Lane have
it too, you know, I mean it's Ronny what I mean, They
basically two lead rhythm guitars in that band, right, the two kind of
rhythm guitars that interact, and I know it takes let to know how to
win to do that not you know, like on the spur of the moment,
or rather so listen one one though Hackney Diamonds, you light the album,
You've done a deep dive into it. Diamonds, I've heard like two
songs, but Hackney that the album as a whole I really like. I
like a lot. There's certain parts of it that make me not be totally
in love with Hackney Diamonds. And there's a couple of what I call low
moments, but for the most part, I really really liked the album.
And it starts off with a bang. And and what's cool about the record
is that now Darryl Jones wasn't around for the sessions and this he was out
doing his own gig. Everybody their brother's playing based on this record. It
is produced by Andrew Watt, who I never heard of. The guy,
but he's a musician in his own right, a very good one. He's
worked with a lot of good artists. Andrew Watt really got these got the
Stones in the studio, no horsing around. This wasn't going to be one
of these things. I mean, they had they had a schedule and they
stuck to it, and they really wanted to get this record out and do
something good with it, not just to throw out some crap, but to
really put it together. And this guy, Andrew Watt put it together,
and you had if you look at the lineup with a cast of thousands,
they don't need added people. That's why didn't look like that second single that
they came up with, it was called Sweet Sounds of Sweet Sounds from Heaven
with Lady Gaga. Oh well yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder and
he's on it. Yeah, you know, she's okay, But I don't
think I don't think they needed They had to make it relevant, you know
what I mean. They had to make it relevant and get some bring something
like that. I mean, I mean they started off introducing the record with
their lead single was Angry Yes right, and you went, wow, this
is a really kick butt song that that's a good way of starting a Rolling
Stones album, which is typical for them, is started with a kick butt
balls to the wall saw it and then the video that goes with it with
the showcasing the the attributes of Sydney Sweeney. Yeah was to die for.
I could watch that video all day long, but that's just me. Oh
you start up, you start off with rockers angry and get close. I
get close with featuring Elton John. But you would know Elton Johnny, I
don't know. Just let me just interrupt you for saying, Mike, do
you want us to move the symbol a little closer to you? It's what
I did. Wow, if Bob the Ghost was here, he's probably left
by now, right, So you want to live what's happening that he's interfering
with the um So, so I got to listen to the whole thing.
I heard the two his listen to the whole thing. I heard the McCartney
one, the one that McCartney's on, and did you do you say?
Elton John's on it too? Elton John bite my head off. He's got
Paul mcottony on bass. He's got like this fuzz tone bass thing going on,
and he's got a good middle part where it's it's just him. Oh
really yeah they gave that to him. Yeah, like to think for yourself
type things. It's it's excellent. Bite my half is a good rocker,
good hardcore. I mean, there's a lot of rockers in this record.
There's only two soft Tunes and Dreamy Skies is one. Ben mont Tensch is
a guest starring on this from Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of
uh no expectations that song. Okay, so Ben Montensch is a is excellent
as as everybody knows. And then uh live by the sword of Bill Wyman's
playing on this one. Oh wow, huh great bass player, Matt,
Do you agree Bill Wyman? Great? Yeah, definitely, he played some
stuff on Man. It's sometimes a little bit in the background, but someone
once said, listen to the bass and Satisfaction. Everything that's going on in
Satisfaction, listen to the bass in it. It's it drives the song.
It's crazy, but it really does. Go ahead money And I always enjoyed
watching those old sixties videos of the Rolling Stones playing, whether it be that
SolV show or some live joints someplace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
you know, Bill Wymon's get it so upright. It's like an upright base
hardly moving Yeah yeah, yeah, he's just playing his ass off the Hardly
movie. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, he's cool. He's a cool
cat showboat like Matt. Yeah, right there you go. Wow. Now
the drum's working Matt, what kind of good time? What did you have
one bass the whole time? Did you have different basses? Well, I
had a handful, only I didn't have like twenty or thirty. But in
counting crows, I played a Fender Jazz bass, which isn't all around kind
of workhorse yuh yeah, Jay, and a P bass Offender P bass.
Those were it, you know. I played a couple of older ones,
an SG bass which looks like an SG guitars a little oh yeah, yeah,
I had a sixties SG base later on. That was the last base
I played in the band. That's a real isn't that kind of an SG
bass? Yeah? It is. And it's a very limited tone. It's
a very tired, kind of worn tone, a lot like McCart news Hoffner
bass, even less lively than that, because a Hoffner is a hollow body,
so it resonates a little better. So this is a it's a fully
electric, you know, solid body base and it has exactly one tone.
But I liked it at the end there, right. How about rickenbackers and
stuff like that. I mean, the rickenback and pace is big, but
they don't really not around that much anymore. I read. No, they're
one trick pony. You know, they have a really good clank to them.
If you're Chris Squire Getty Lee. Ye a ricket, yeah yeah,
yeah, yes, but it's had sound again, you know, a ricket.
It sounds great and every base perser will probably have a rick in their
collection. I don't at the moment, but because it's a it's a it
does what it does really well, right sure. Talking about the Beatles,
they said that mccontey was quoted as saying that George Harrison was not at seventy
five percent of the sessions of Sogeant Pepper. Well, okay, that he
also said what he was doing at the times. Do they know what he
was doing? You know, mowing the lawn fire park close close? He
was building a swimming pool. Uh yeahs would you move the symbol of bit
closer to mine? I'll give him, I'll give him a long of drumsticks.
Yeah, I mean, goes are back in the days. Whether you
really couldn't mail it in. You had to be there to do your stuff.
He didn't have to be there simultaneously with everybody, but it usually worked
a lot better. I thought that the White Album was where everybody was taking
a powder. I think there was all yeah, there's all kind of their
own solo albums in a way, you know, and I think Pepper Pepper
they were really collaborating. I think it's McCartney and lend Coard Martin wanted it
that way. Yeah, they made the symphonic piece. That's what it's like.
It was like two people writing a symphonic piece that has a lot of
different chapters and stuff, and then they would bring them in to play when
they were going to play, you know. I mean it was the first
of that kind of steely Dan way of doing an album. You know,
we bring the people in and play so well. It's a bear that could
listen to all day long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going.
Yeah. They have a lot of really good guys on there. Just saw
a video of Larry Cayleton playing Kid Chalamagne at some jazz club in New York.
He's great, He's really really good, you know, And he says
he gets paid a lot to go to LA and just put rhythm guitar and
a lot of a lot of songs. I heard Steve Lukather of Toto say
the same thing. He goes Rhythm makes it. Rhythm makes the world go
around. He says, you wouldn't believe the people have played rhythm guitar because
they can't play rhythm. And I think it means like Eric Clapton or someone
you know. Mm hmmm, So you think that rhythm guitar is what you
do when you can't play lead. But that's very very important. It's it's
like Keith rich I mean they got a Keith richardism here a Richard is because
you know, a solo solo's come and go, but a riff less for
les. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. You can listen to
uh a Keith Rich's riff right, and it really has some substance and some
it's not complex, it just has a harmony within itself. I don't care
if it's open g drop d. I don't care what it is. But
he makes it sound like him. It's really special. Yeah, him,
You put a lot of thought into it. You always know it's him.
You always know it's the stones, you know. I mean that's the key
is if on the first note, if they know who you are and you've
made it, you know. So it's the Hackney Diamonds with headphones really good.
You can you can really hear the weaving. And I wanted to say
before I wrapped up, my critique of Hackney Diamonds is that I haven't heard
Ronnie ron Wood sound so good as I as I've heard in this record.
There's been albums where ron Wood is I don't know, in the background,
kind of meeeling it in. Yes, good, he's good, but he's
he's been better, and this one he's been way better. He's been really
working it out. I'm happy for him. He's the young one of the
band. He's only seventy six. Seventy six, Yeah, he's twins,
like about four years old. Don't forget. Keith Rich's birthday is coming up.
Eighty Keith eighty eight. All right, I have it before we take
a quick break, last break of the show. Have a few fun facts
ready lost you'll like these? Will I? Okay, we should we kill
the drummer? Cue? Can you reach the symbol there on my friend?
There you go? Oh that was as target. He was falling forward when
that happened. Yeah, that helps the whole time. Okay, these are
just fun facts. That's just like weird to me. Okay, you know,
Don Felder, who was the guitar player for the Eagles, right and
read his book Heaven and How Man Man, Matt, you talk about what's
it like being to band? A bad side of it? This guy Holy
Cow just really bad, just bad, just a bad vibe. It's too
bad. Okay. He worked in a guitar shop and a record shop in
Florida. To someplace Jacksonville, Flora, a guy walks and says, hey,
listen, you teach me to play The guitar says, well, we
really don't do that here, he says, come on, I'll give you
like ten bucks an how he says, okay, the guys Tom Petty Wow.
True because it wasn't funny. It's true. It was fun it wasn't
worthy of us. Okay, it wasn't worthy of a simple crash symbol worthy
iron Is it ironic? Is it irony? In there? I think it's
gonna be iron What that is? It's not really. Later on, he's
playing in a band in Daytona Beach and he's on the bill. It's one
of these bands college places where they play all day, all night, and
the guys in front of them they got to be good friends with them and
they would go and their mother was also in Daytona Beach and they'd feed them
and everything. The name of the band was the Almond Joys and the Almond
Brothers am brothers. Yeah. Nice, Okay, here's the Okay, ready
for this. You see them brothers. I saw them. I saw them
at what was that huge, huge festival after Woodstock, Watkins Glenn. I
saw them at Watkins, the first tour they did with Chuck Levell after uh
you know, once his name died. They either were really jazzed up,
they were great. They were just really really good. His piano added a
lot point. Okay, let's see. I know this is the crazy this
is one of the crazy ones. First of all, this isn't even true,
of false, but true false. Joe Petch and Jimmy Hendrix played in
the same band. Joe Pesci and Jimmy Hendrix played in the same band.
It's weird enough to be true, but it's true. It's true. And
The and the Books was a session guy No Joey d in the Star Ladders.
They had the pepmin twist and Felix Papillotti was the organ player in it.
So Jimmy Hendricks and then he left and then Joe Pesh he took his
place as the guitar player. And that it's crazy is Felix Mountain Fame?
No? No, I mean I know the guy from Cavalaris for the Rascals.
Yeah, okay, okay, I got it all on. This is
Zippy Queen. Okay, that was a good band. But we only know
Mississippi Queen. That's what I say. Yeah, that was one of the
And you know who Waddy watch Out was the guitar he's a session guy.
He was what's his name's nighbor, you're just the Mississippi Queen guy, the
big guy. No, no, who's the guitar player? Leslie West?
Leslie West would kill My brother loved, wasn't it Nantucket Sleigh? Right?
Yeah, yeah, my brother loved that out? Ye who got Ronnie ron
Wood hooked? Ronnie Lane hooked on coke? What band? Who's running the
Faces? Running Wood? Ron Wood? Ron Wood? Sorry, okay in
the faces too. He was in the Faces and they both want Yeah.
Faces was a great band. Yeah, they're really good. Right. They
used to do they used to take the standing room only money, buy beer
and invite the audience back to their hotel room with them with beer, and
they'd like destroy the freaking hotel. Okay, the people who got him cooked
didn't take part in that day. I'm sure the guys who got him hooked
on coke was the band America. He stayed at the mansion in l a
with of all people America, and okay, I think a couple more than
were gonna take a quick break. This one is the strangers to me,
uh, the second strangers when after Simon and goffunk, Well, let's after
Simon Gono really made it big. They actually broke up for a little while
that they didn't tell people about. Paul Simon moved to London. This is
true. This is after the Sounds of Silence came out and he was in
a rooming house and he was playing as so long as people around London,
and he had a flatmate who used to play the songs back and forth to
him and it was else do it. Yeah, what a strange combination.
You know, what do you say that's not funny? Wow? The drama
funny things? These are just fascinating. Okay, all right, all right,
I mean they are fascinating. Sound for fascinating. Oh, that's wow.
Okay, here's the last one. Ready. We got to take a
well deserved break. Rick James, Rick James, Okay, you know who
Rick James is, right, Okay. So he had a couple of hits
and then he was going to get drafted into the Vietnam War, so he
fled. He went to Canada on a bus. He arrived in Montreal station
like a three am, and two guys immediately stopped beating them up. Okay,
and he's saved by two guys, two guys from the band like Rick
Danko and Goth Hudson. We're walking along and they saved him from getting his
ass bet. I mean, how strange is that? And then he was
in Rick James was in the band with Neil Young called the Minor Birds before
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is Mac Morney. Whow it's all music show we've had for you tonight.
We've got a few seconds left. Let me just introduce the gang here.
One one's here, Bony Hello, microphon? Is it worth staying up late
for this? I could be up all night talking about music. There you
go. Good to you? Okay, I'll saw Barried winning up there on
another part of New Hampshire? Is it is? Is it wit staying awake
for you? Barry? It's five past eight? Oh you're going to start?
Yeah, it's worth staying up. Matt Maley a friend out there in
l A're up early? Yeah? I just woke up. Five's I forgot
about the time. It's a right ran, it's already tomorrow. There you
go, right, good line, yeah, good line for san can you
tell us who on at Suffolk Downs yesterday tonight? Anyway? The Beatles,
stuffing Downs, stuffing Downs. Yeah, it's an old references. Mik saw
the Beatles up the at Suffolk Downs. Can you believe that? Sixty six?
Sixty six the last one? Anyway, So we're talking about all music
tonight. Also, he only introduced one and you forgot about us. Wait
a minute, Okay, that's okay. We're here supporting the team. We
did. I introduced for else today, three of them. Okay, all
right, I was I was getting around you. Wow. Wow. No,
wasn't he ready to change subject? No? Wow, only cow lovers.
This means only two cookies tonight and that three. I'm sorry there,
I mean I'm thinking of it. I'm thinking of a divo line. Also
with oh wow wow, that's a good one. Good the drama comes away.
That deserve the whole tymbol. Also in the studio with us is Lois
learning. Lois, thanks for joining us tonight. Wow. And also a
good friend Mike pulling on the drums Mike, Yeah wow. That's like Mike
used to play John Lennon in a Beatles band. They're really good help of
the help. Yeah, yeah, I miss that. You saw them buried
you see them? Pack did see them? They were excellent. Yeah,
they're really good. I've mentioned this to Mark. I knew how big fans
they were based on what they selected to play. Yes, I don't think
i'd ever heard a Beatles band play some other guy. Yeah that's right,
we did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very good. And we
used to see them a lot at Hampton Beach, Matt, you know of
Hampton Beach at a at an outside venue. They had an outside the amphitheater
like a shell. And it happened every single time we'd go see them.
They'd play one song and this, you know, this rush rush of little
kids. Little kids would be upfront and they'd be dancing just automatically. It
was. It happened every time, and some of them knew the songs and
stuff. It was really really eye opening, you know, and he knew
that it was just going to go on for generation. So anyway, have
I introduced everyone? Lewis you have? Okay? Thankfully done? There you
go, thank you. Well. I mean we have a few minutes left
and we have to talk about the new Beatles song now and then, and
I'm going to throw I'll throw it to Barry first, okay, and I'm
going to go last. Barry, go ahead please now and then we should
say, is that as a demo tape that John Lennon made in the seventies.
It was revitalized. His voice was on Ai Ringo and Paul put instruments
on it. George had put instruments on it years ago, and they wrapped
it up in this bow now and then and put it as part of the
promotional piece for the remasters of the Red and Blue albums. So please barry
your opinion, all right. So I was torn. I did not want
them to do this. I was familiar with the fuzz on the John Lennon
piece and I felt like it was this really, really intimate song, and
so I did not want them messing with it. But then after listening to
it for a while and probably too many times, and taking it from McCartney's
angle, I started to understand why he wanted to do it and for what
it is. All right, it's not the Beatles, but it's very very
sweet and it's guys helping out a friend, and that's what I take it
for. Matt. I've heard the song exactly. We once and everyone including
Barry just now, everyone who says they've heard it multiple times it starts to
grow on them. So I got to hear it some more, but I
was not impressed. I was impressed with John Lennon as usual for the song
itself, but both Paul and Ringo were just kind of they just played mediocre
through the whole thing. Ringo was just hitting a snare, like pounding nails,
and I was missing his swingy fills and things, and I was not
impressed. But as I say that, I'm going to hear it ten more
times and then I'll have maybe a different opinion. Wow. Interesting, Wannie.
Well, I've never heard a Beatles song where I had to listen to
it ten times to get into it. And Mac encouraged me to listen to
now and then I have it. I have it here, and I was,
I'm all right, all right, you know it's it's mellow John Lennon.
I always liked him that way, and I thought it was a patchwork
of I didn't see the AI part of it. I didn't really I know
what AI is, and I didn't really get the AI component in this song.
But you're right, Matt. The drumming was like, yeah, he
was on it, but he wasn't. He was mailing it in. He
had to be where he had to be, Like, you know, I
got to be here, but I don't give a rats. Hey, Mark,
go ahead put it right after. Yeah, I think I would have
to hear it a few more times too, And I'm not sure. I'm
pretty sure that John wouldn't have won it that released, would not have wanted
it released. Yeah, I would not. Okay, That's all I got
was oh, sorry. So when I first heard it, I felt the
way I felt about the Rolling Stone song. When I first heard their new
song, that not impressed, as Matt said. But when I watched it
the official video and listened to the song, I liked it more. But
I'm not sure it holds up with a lot of their other songs. So
but I've only listened to it maybe four times. So okay, so Mac,
what did you think of it? Yes? Mac, what did you
think of that? See? I felt the same way when I first heard
it as everyone is saying that it's like, oh man, and and I
said, this is going to be a mistake because free bird and not free
Yeah, it's free as a Bird, Free as a Bird, and Real
Love. They're good songs. They turned out. I thought they turned out
really well. Jeff Lynn, I thought did a great job on those songs,
considering what they had to work with them. But you knew that this
has been hanging around for twenty years. Harrison did not want to work on
it. He called it rubbish, and you know, but now they put
it out of some kind of a promotional thing. I said, this is
going all wrong. And I don't like Ills mott and I think he just
happens to be George Mottin's son. And they also the love Thing in Las
Vegas. I thought they said this is the greatest Beatle album coming out,
and it was just it was just it was what happened. Oh I th
Bob the Ghost Okay, so anyway, so that's how I felt. But
then I listened to it a bunch of times, and I know this sounds
crazy, but I think it's in one of the I think it's one of
the top twenty five songs, and just listen to it because I can remember
going back and listening to like, for instance, the first time I heard
Day in the Life, I remember thinking, oh, they've blown it now,
No one's going to listen to this. This is terrible. You know.
Three days later, you can't wait for it to get on the radio
again. You can't wait for the song to come out. Same thing with
Day Tripper and Paperback Writer. You know, the first time listen to Paperback
right, the first time, it's like all over the place, it's crazy.
But then you listen to it and you can't stop thinking about it and
repeat. You those have more songs where if you listen to one chord,
you know the song, whether it's the beginning or the end. Yeah.
You listen to Hard Day's Night, you hear that twelve string and you know
what it is. Yep. At the end of the day in the life,
you hear that was it? How many pianos was it? They played
that one chord in three or four? Yes, yep, and you know
what it was. Yes, you didn't even have to hear the song,
you knew it it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can tell
it by one cord. That's funny. Yeah, that's right. But that's
how I feel about it. And I'll tell you why I like it,
And I don't know. The lyrics are very very simple, obviously, he
was just singing almost what came to his mind in a way, because you
know, it's true, I'm in love with you. It's like, you
know, you can't get more trite than that. But and I agree with
Lois when you see what changed me is when I saw the official video.
In the way that the video was shot and the way that it's presented is
that it's almost like Lennon was writing this song to the two surviving Beatles that
hey, you know, we're going to get through our lives because we remember
you and they and it's very effective the way they do it. You know,
some really corny pots in the video, and then when you listen to
it and listen to the middle pot which I think, jeff Lynn you are
arranged and he used pots of Elm and Rigby in it and stuff, I
can't really hear it. I think that the kind of the slide guitar that
McCartney plays in Harrison's style, I think it should be a little louder,
but I like it. I think just the way it's put together, I
think it's in the top twenty five. I know that sounds blasphemous, but
just listen to it more. Maybe and see if you agree with me,
just listen to it a bunch of times and see the video. Watch the
video. Yeah, okay, this has been a pig advertisement by app Americans.
The drummer all right, okay, listen, well a wed clap.
Let's clap with the drummer. Okay, my, hey, well, no
belly button man. Thanks for joining us. Uh, let's see, Barry,
thanks for joining us. Barry, You're welcome. Did you have a
good time? I had an excellent time, and I'd be willing to talk
music again. My big thing is everyone should have like five passions. Music
is going to be my top passion forever. Yeah, me too. I
mean, you know, we all know what we I do for a living.
But lowest one said to me, how come all your heroes and musicians
we're probably drunk. No, not just me, not you, sorry you
Lois anyway, so thank you back for joining us from the copa you know,
not you low Coma anyway. I'm thinking of disco. I'm thinking of
Barry Manilo. Oh yeah, yeah, Harry, Barry. I'm a huge
Berry Manloe fan, and we should have said that he broke On the next
show. We can talk about Barry Manilo. He's one of those guys you
should grow up by the way, being Barry in the era of You know,
if I was in the band back in when he was really really big,
I would I would have wanted to sing Mandy really yeah, huh,
you would have get. You be weeping halfway through it, then you really
would have got. And this is I met this bed tech in my town.
His name is Mandy. I saw let me see you know, she's
a young girl. I said, let me let me guess were you're named
after? The song? Yes, wow, I love he admitted it.
I love that song and I love you. You starting to the world diff
folks, Okay, the drama hang on. I'm leaving with the drumma to
do something. I know I was sleeping, not that the show is and
he has a job to do. Matt Maley, thanks for joining us,
my pleasure, a great great session here. Did you have a good time.
I'm glad you enjoyed. I'm glad you participated. Wei should Where can
people find what you do? I don't really do much of anything, but
I do have a YouTube channel with like four videos on it, so if
you wanted to pok up Matt Mallie. You know my folks song I'm Proud
of it has this viral with five hundred views at the moment. Yeah cool.
But you play that all on one take, which is very impressive.
Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, yeah, And I honestly I got a pat
on the back by a couple of real Fairporters, guys from Fairport Commision,
including Richard Thompson. Yeah. I sent Richard an email with a link and
he's in a mine I've recorded with him before, and he said that's a
fine version, and I was made my year. Richard Thompson has considered one
of the greatest guitarists of you know, you don't hear his name very much
over here, but he's he's considered one of the greatest guitarists ever, you
know, in the rock World's under the radar. But I've been a fanatic
since I was about twenty years old. You know. He invented Fairport Convention
first of all, which is like my religion, you know. So he's
a hero of mine. And he gave me a thumbs up, you know,
I mean, not on the video, but as an email return he
said, that's a fine rendition of that. Wow, that's great man.
That's that's a great compliment. That's a great comment from a really good musician.
Super well. Thanks for joining us tonight, Matt. We appreciate it
having me. We're going to clap for you. We will sweeten it up.
Thank you very much. Okay, let me take care of the people
in the studio, says Mike Pool, and thanks for joining us. My
thank you except for thanks oh yeah that wow? Okay, okay, who's
driving Lewis? Thankfully? Hellois. Thanks for joining us, Lois, Oh,
you're welcome, my pleasure. May have a very busy schedule. Thanks
for thinking of the time. I am happy to make time to talk music
or listen to you talking about music. It was very well all of you,
Yes, I really, except for Wham. What did I say?
That's the nice show? You hit one of my buttons lowest. Oh,
there you go. That's why I'm here. Wow, and you talk for
six hours about whim very man, as it turns out, very Manilow and
Wallam expose next time. Really yeah, okay, all right, really fascinating.
I'll turn the mics on for you and let you have it. Anyway,
Thanks very much everyone out there joining us. Thank you one one for
joining us. Jannie, you're welcome. Are you gonna go see the stones?
They're gonna again? Talk about the Velvet Underground. Oh, come on,
talk about overrated. One of the things that we didn't get into here
is the most overrated band, unridded, most overrated and not one, not
the most but among the most overrated bands ever. And Steve Miller, same
thing. Steve Miller never got it. Come on, not a big Steve.
Anyway, that's the next show. Thank you for joining us. Thank
you everyone out there. Uh listen to us, joining us for the music
show. And this is MAC for the entire gang. Until you hear us
again, be safe, be happy, and bye bye.