WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:12.240 Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Samantha Fay, 2 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:16.120 and I'm Deb Bowen, and we're so happy to have you back. Deb. 3 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:19.640 I just want to tell everyone if he didn't see the photo I posted 4 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:24.519 on Facebook, I was able to see Deb live and in person on stage, 5 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.920 and she was fabulous. That's why she was unable to be with us 6 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:33.520 last week. How was your time on stage? Deb? I had such 7 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:38.119 a good time, Samantha. You know, every time I invited or cast 8 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:41.240 to do a show, I think, oh, good golly, I'm too 9 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:45.159 old for this, I can't do this, and then I do and I 10 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.840 have so much fun. And this latest show I did was with a great 11 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:54.560 group of people that I'd never worked with before, and they were so wonderful 12 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:59.039 and so kind, and we had such a good time. And except for 13 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.399 a couple of seats on a couple of nights, we were sold out for 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.799 two solid weekends of this play and people just laughed and loved it and had 15 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.799 such a good time. And I think that's one of the reasons I enjoyed 16 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.519 doing comedy so much, is because it does give people a chance to get 17 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.000 out of their day to day routine and just laugh at themselves and sometimes the 18 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:25.519 world around them. Interestingly, my last line of the show is, yes, 19 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:29.519 there's a lot of life left in the old girl yet, and I'm 20 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:34.159 referring to a house. But I sure took that to heart for myself as 21 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.239 well, So there is that. Well. I thought you were absolutely wonderful. 22 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:42.000 I did love the entire cast. It was funny, and I got 23 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:46.280 to see Dub kind of in a wedding dress right at the end, or 24 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.760 was it just the veil? The gown? It was so strange. The 25 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:56.120 gown I had on was just some kind of a fancy off white colored thing 26 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.719 and then a kimona on top of it. Because my new spend and I 27 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.840 are on our way to honeymoon in Tokyo, so I've already bought a Kimona. 28 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.560 And yes, I was indeed wearing a bridle veil. So that was 29 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:12.599 tons of fun. It was so fun and I loved I loved your hair, 30 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.479 and your makeup was on point. Girls, I did my own makeup. 31 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:20.520 Can you believe that I did my own makeup? Well, I'm excited 32 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.560 to see you back on stage, but I'm really happy to have you back 33 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.759 with us this week. I'm happy to be back, and I'm excited to 34 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:32.400 have this conversation today about haunted triangle areas in America. So you know, 35 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:37.360 I'll do my best to be like not spooked. Okay, here we go. 36 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:42.039 Okay, it's not super spooky. It's just kind of interesting because you 37 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:46.960 know, we've all heard of the Bermuda triangle, but there are so many 38 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:53.479 other of these weird, spooky triangle locations throughout America. The word triangle has 39 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:59.800 become synonymous with locations that are known for paranormal and UFO activity. And it's 40 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:05.960 believe that these triangular locations form a type of portal or gateway for other beings 41 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.680 to interact with us. Oh boy, yeah, So, like you can 42 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:14.759 google some of these triangle locations that we're going to talk about and maps will 43 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:19.080 come up, and it will show you that in this perfectly gritted triangle, 44 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.439 all sorts of weird stuff happens. And it does make you wonder, like 45 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:28.080 why why these areas? What is being drawn here? Is it really a 46 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.919 portal? Is it just a place like we were talking about when we did 47 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:37.159 the Vortex show where the veil is thinner? I don't know, I don't 48 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:38.840 know, either. But you know, I got off on a tangent. 49 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:43.520 And we've done several episodes about this in the past, some years ago, 50 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:50.560 about researching lay lines and connections between places and gridded locations on the on the 51 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:57.199 globe, and the triangle triangulation of the places that we're going to be talking 52 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.000 about in this episode. I think a red to that, don't you, 53 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.560 I do, I do, all right. The first one we're gonna discuss 54 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:10.439 is probably one of the best known areas. It's called the Bridgewater Triangle, 55 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:16.199 and this is a mysterious area in southeastern Massachusetts that's known for its plethora of 56 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:24.199 paralable phenomena unexplained events in urban legends. So here are some notable stories and 57 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:29.800 incidents that are associated with the Bridgewater Triangle. The first one is the Dighton 58 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.439 Rock and it's one of the earliest recorded mysteries of the Bridgewater Triangle. The 59 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:40.800 Dyton Rock is a forty ton boulder covered in mysterious petroglyphs along the Taunton River. 60 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:46.120 The origins and meetings of these carvings have puzzled historians and archaeologists for centuries, 61 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:53.360 leading to various theories ranging from Native American symbols to ancient Viking inscriptions. 62 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.680 So it kind of reminds me of like the Voyage Manuscript, where we just 63 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.959 haven't been able to decode what these petroglyphs are, what they're trying to tell 64 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.000 us no idea. Isn't that fascinating? And you know, there's recently been 65 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:16.120 some discussion in scientific communities about the timing of when Viking explorers came to this 66 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:21.279 continent and interacted with folks. So we're really, we really don't know, 67 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.360 no, and it could be much earlier than we had thought. That's right, 68 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.240 we need like a Rosetta stone to help us interpret these. I don't 69 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.000 know why. It reminds me of that old Twilight Zone episode. It's one 70 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:36.800 of my favorite when the aliens land and they meet with the President of the 71 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:41.920 United States and they hand them a book and it's covered in petroglyphs and they 72 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.720 give it to the best you know, cryptographers and everyone else to try to 73 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.920 code breakers. And when the president is getting on the ship to go to 74 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:54.399 the I don't know what was it, Venusians or Martians. I don't know 75 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:58.959 what Twilight Zone Rod Sterling was thinking, but the President's getting on the ship 76 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.959 to go back to their planet, and one of the codebreakers runs up and 77 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:08.839 goes, mister president, mister President, it's a cookbook to serve man, 78 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:13.199 it's a cookbook. Do you remember that. I'd forgotten about it, but 79 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:17.439 yes. So maybe the Dighton Rock is giving us some warning and we don't 80 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.920 know what it says. I know, we don't have a clue, all 81 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:26.920 right, So the next piece of this fascinating area, I'm going to try 82 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:31.560 to pronounce this am I say it correctly, samanthots puckwoodgees, puckwodgies wedgies, 83 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:39.120 puck wedgies. So, according to first people's beliefs in this area of Massachusetts, 84 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:46.360 the Wampanog tribe believed that mischievous forest spirits who are the punchwug giese said 85 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:51.319 to inhabit the swamps and forests of the Bridgewater Triangle. These small humanoid creatures 86 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:58.040 are believed to possess magical powers and have been blamed for a variety of strange 87 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:03.959 occurrences, including disappearances and mysterious lights in the woods. Legends say these small 88 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:10.160 creatures are about two to four feet tall. They have smooth gray skin and 89 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:15.759 are known for luring people to their deaths. The name apparently means little wild 90 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:20.519 man of the woods who vanish. They've been known to attack with knives and 91 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.279 arrows and push people over cliffs yup. They can disappear at will and have 92 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:31.000 been known to shape shift into animals. The police have gotten so many reports 93 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:40.639 of sightings in this area that a Hugewogy crossing sign now hangs near the Freetown 94 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:46.800 State Forest, located in Fall River, Freetown and Lakesville, Massachusetts. Fall 95 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:53.519 River is the home of Lizzie Borden, who murdered her father and stepmother with 96 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.839 an axe, as we all know, in the eighteen nineties. In the 97 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.199 Freetown State Forest, a one hundred foot cliff known as the Ledge overlooks a 98 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.560 quarry, and there have been several suicides here, which some have attributed to 99 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:13.519 being precipitated by punchwood cheese. One Massachusetts woman reported seeing a punchwood cheek in 100 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.279 the forest who continued to pester her by tapping on her window at night as 101 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.560 she slept. So you know what I was first reading about this one, 102 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:28.000 Samantha, I was thinking about those creatures from celtic iclore, like kelpies, 103 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:35.440 and some of those legendary little folks over there who are known to be mischievous 104 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.480 maybe is a better word, but I don't ever remember reading anything about those 105 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:46.399 legends over there where we're talking about them having knives and such, and well, 106 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.200 you know who mentions the legend of them with knives and little arrows is 107 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.480 JK. Rowling in the Harry Potter series. That's interesting. All right, 108 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.000 now you've got me intrigued, and I'll go back and look. Okay, 109 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.919 let's go on. Okay, so over when in the Hackamack Swamp, it's 110 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:07.279 often referred to as the Devil's Swamp. It's a vast wetland within the Bridgewater 111 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.600 Triangle known for its eerie atmosphere and reported paranormal activity. Numerous sightings of strange 112 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:18.080 creatures, unexplained noises, and ghostly apparitions have been reported by visitors and locals 113 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:24.840 alike, adding to the area's mystique. Archaeologists have discovered an eight thousand year 114 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.960 old burial site here, and artifacts such as arrowheads and stone tools believed to 115 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:33.320 be more than ten thousand years old. Here are just a few of the 116 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:39.039 weird things that have been reported in this swamp. In the eighteenth century. 117 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.960 There's a newspaper article titled Yellow Day which claims that the swampy area was bathed 118 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.919 in a yellow sulpheric light. People said the blue sky was completely gone. 119 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.919 All they could see for miles when they looked up was an eerie yellow sky. 120 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.679 There have been numerous UFO sidings as well. In the early nineteen seventies, 121 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.799 patrons at a diner reported that the power went out for several minutes. 122 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.799 When it came back on, they saw two large disc shaped formations in the 123 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:13.000 dirt behind the diner. Several residents throughout the years, including police officers, 124 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.600 have reported seeing a large bird that sounds a lot like mothman, but it's 125 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.879 called the thunderbird by locals. You know, there's a swamp area not far 126 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:28.799 from where you and I live, Samantha, that I would drive through on 127 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:35.120 my way every week for two years to grad school, and every single time 128 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:41.559 that I was getting ready to enter that area, I would I don't know 129 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.679 what it made me do it, but I turned off the radio or the 130 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:50.200 CD player and I drove very carefully, in silence through this swampy area and 131 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.600 across these little bridges. It gave me the creeps, and my second year 132 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.559 of grad school, I think it was I got out of class after dark, 133 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.480 drove home for two and a half hours in the dark through that little 134 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.120 area, and it always just freaked me out. I always just kind of 135 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.159 prayed my way through that swamp area. And there are lots of legends about 136 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.039 it as well, but just just it gave me this crazy feeling. I 137 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.559 don't know what that was about, you know. One of my first jobs 138 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:24.799 after college was as a newspaper reporter, and an article I was assigned to 139 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.159 write was on a swamp in our area but an hour from where I live 140 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.440 that locals have always called the Fountain of Youth, and they couldn't figure out 141 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.440 why. Throughout the years, when people would bathe in this swamp, they 142 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.799 would tend to feel a lot better. And I guess I shouldn't say bathe 143 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.440 in it, but they would like walk through it and if they had like 144 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.639 a cut on their on their ankle or something, it would heal well. 145 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:50.919 Finally, they did some research on it, and it turned out that it 146 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.840 grew these these reads that would get mold, and so when you were walking 147 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:01.000 through the wet area of this swamp, you were actually walking looking in basically 148 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.159 penicillin. How about that? Isn't that cool? It is cool, But 149 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.320 I don't think that's a swamp I was in. No, probably not, 150 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.360 or at least driving through, I wasn't in the swamp. Let's talk about 151 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.240 the Freetown State Forest, located within the Bridgewater Triangle. The Freetown State Forest 152 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:26.639 has gained a reputation as a hotspot for paranormal activity and criminal behavior. Numerous 153 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:33.679 urban legends and chilling stories around this forest, including reports of cult activity, 154 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.759 Oh Lord, animal mutilations, and sighting of mysterious creatures such as Bigfoot and 155 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.480 phantom black dogs. Why would you want to go hang out in this place? 156 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.879 Doesn't sound very welcoming. But what's interesting about a lot of these triangular 157 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.000 locations is that in addition to the paranormal stuff, there does seem to be 158 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.879 heightened reports of criminal activity. Like we mentioned the Lizzy Borden case before, 159 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:03.519 it does seem to be something negative in these areas that kind of brings out 160 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.159 the worst in certain people. And I don't know what that's about. I 161 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.440 don't know either which comes first here, I mean, or is it criminals 162 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.120 who are attracted to this place or is it this place who attracts criminals right 163 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.480 exactly. One of the most famous urban legends associated with the Bridgewater Triangle is 164 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:26.320 the tale of the red headed hitchhiker who haunts Route forty four. According to 165 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.360 local lore, drivers traveling along this stretch of road have reported encountering a ghostly 166 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.519 hitchhiker with flaming red hair who vanishes without a trace when approached. He's usually 167 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.559 described as a man between forty five and fifty five. The stories are all 168 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:45.039 very similar. Someone is driving along the road, usually alone, when they 169 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.200 see the red headed man on the side of the road. When they pick 170 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.120 him up, he gets in the back seat and remains silent, ignoring questions 171 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.000 and just staring at the driver. He eventually vanishes or is no longer there 172 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.000 when they turn the look. This is usually followed by scarlaughter. Some report 173 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.519 that his laughter feels like it's all around them, rather than coming from one 174 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:11.120 direction. A few have even said his creepy laughter comes through their radio speakers. 175 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:16.639 Now that would really freak me out. One woman was driving alone when 176 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.720 she passed the hitchhiker and refused to pick him up. The radio started to 177 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:26.799 scan the stations all by itself and then became so loud it shook the car. 178 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:31.279 The man then disappeared from her rear view mirror, and his laughter could 179 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.679 be heard through her radio speakers. So I have lots to say about this 180 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.639 one. Yeah. No, there was a time in my life and a 181 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:46.600 land far far away, when I picked up hitchhikers because often I knew them. 182 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:48.720 Of course, they were friends on their way to the beach and that 183 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.399 sort of thing, and we weren't really afraid to pick up somebody who probably 184 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:58.120 legitimately just needed a ride from point A to point bit. Today, probably 185 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.440 I would not pick up a hitchhiker, and probably not being a woman driving 186 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:07.919 alone. And I just really I wouldn't be doing that. Yeah, No, 187 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.240 I would have Keith Morrison in my head going it was a lonely, 188 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:16.600 cold dark evening when sum the ferry. There's no way. There's way too 189 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.879 many true crime shows. Well I wouldn't. I wouldn't be doing that either. 190 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.360 And so as you were talking about this, I wondered how long it's 191 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:30.039 been since he's been seeing Well, I did find some pretty recent reports. 192 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.559 I'd say I think the most recent article I came across was about eight nine 193 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:37.759 years ago. Uh huh, So I don't know. Maybe there are still 194 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:43.360 some people who pick up hitchhikers. Maybe, deb And I love a writer 195 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.519 called Simone Saint James, and I just read her newest book, Murder Road, 196 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.600 and it's all about them picking up a hitchhiker on the side of the 197 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.480 road and there's a ghost there, and it's all, you know, because 198 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.919 she always writes about ghost and they have to solve a murder connected to the 199 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.919 ghost. But now that I think about it, even though that book just 200 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.919 came out this spring, she said it in the nineteen eighties, right, 201 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.080 And I wonder if she had to do that because so few people pick up 202 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:14.080 hitchhikers these days. I bet that's true. All right, This next one's 203 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.279 kind of gruesome. Do you want to tell it quickly? Okay, I'll 204 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:21.360 just do it real fast, y'all. The Dightened Animal Killings. In the 205 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:27.080 nineteen nineties, a series of gruesome animal mutilations occurred in the town surrounding the 206 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:34.840 Bridgewater Triangle, sparking fears of a possible cult activity or supernatural phenomenon. The 207 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:45.600 mysterious killings, which involved ritualistic mutilation and decapitation of animals remains unsolved, adding 208 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:51.720 to this area's aura of mystery and danger. So my guess is, in 209 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:55.120 reading this and the research that you did on this, Samantha, this is 210 00:16:55.200 --> 00:17:00.519 different from like the cattle mutilation situations that we see more out west. Yeah, 211 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:06.359 it seemed more ritualistic, more almost like a sacrifice, and so it 212 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.920 seemed more cult connected rather than cattle connected. Right, And in the cattle 213 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.200 connections there, of course, in those and those mutilations, there's no blood. 214 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:21.200 It's all laser precise. It's very surgical in Colordia. And that doesn't 215 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:25.720 sound like what you're describing here, right, all very sad, I know 216 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:30.559 it really is. In Massachusetts is such a beautiful state, it is, 217 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:36.599 But they're home to their own share of weirdness in this triangle area. Okay, 218 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:41.039 let's talk about another triangle area that is not as well known, the 219 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:47.400 Alaska Triangle, which is also sometimes called the Alaska Bermuda Triangle. This is 220 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:52.279 an area of wilderness in the state of Alaska where numerous unexplained disappearances and strange 221 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.759 occurrences have been reported over the years. So here are just a few of 222 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:03.920 the strange ones. Just does the disappearance of Flight twenty two. In nineteen 223 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:08.680 fifty, Northwest Airlines Flight two five oh one disappeared while flying from New York 224 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:15.039 City to Seattle. The plane, carrying forty four passengers and crew, vanished 225 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:19.039 without a trace, somewhere over the Alaska Triangle. Despite extensive search efforts, 226 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:23.759 no wreckage was found or bodies were ever recovered, leaving the fate of the 227 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:30.839 plane and its occupants a mystery. I always find that strained when planes just 228 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.079 completely disappear like that. Tell us about the other one, the little Cessna. 229 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.200 Well, that one just breaks my heart. I mean what you've just 230 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.440 talked about, Darris. But let me tell the next one. This is 231 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.000 the disappearance of a Cessna three forty, and it's forty years later. In 232 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:52.720 nineteen ninety, this aircraft, piloted by Mark Matter and Dan McNeely, disappeared 233 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:57.640 while flying over the Alaska Triangle. The plane, en route from Anchorage to 234 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:04.039 Yakutat, vanished from radar without sending out a distress signal. Despite an extensive 235 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:11.000 search operation involving military aircraft and ground teams, no trace of the plane or 236 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.960 its documents was ever found. Wow. Yeah, and you think about the 237 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:22.039 little black box that these planes have then the location responders and they don't find 238 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:27.039 any of that. It reminds me of the missing plane that went missing over 239 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.319 Malaysia. Yeah, I was thinking about that as you were talking about Flight 240 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:37.480 twenty two and other planes that we know have disappeared in real mountainous areas, 241 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.480 like the horrible plane crash in the Andes of the young people who are rugby 242 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.680 players. They were all found, they were found, but boy, it 243 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.440 took a while. It did take a while, it did. And I'm 244 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.599 thinking, Okay, so there a snowstorm all of a sudden and it's been 245 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.920 gone. I mean, who knows. But in nineteen fifty they may not 246 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.480 have had the technology as much as we're talking about, But in nineteen ninety 247 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.000 they sure did, right, So I don't know. That's just so very 248 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.160 sad. Well. Then, in nineteen seventy two, the Stver's family, 249 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:14.200 consisting of six members, disappeared while flying in their private plane over the Alaska 250 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.279 Triangle. Their plane was a single engine Piper Cherokee, again vanished without a 251 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:23.240 trace during a flight from Anchorage to white Horse, Yukon. Despite an intensive 252 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:30.559 search effort involving military and civilian aircraft, no records or bodies were ever found. 253 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:36.079 Now, what's interesting is many pilots and residents of Alaska have reported a 254 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:41.359 strange phenomenon they have experienced while flying over or traveling through the Alaska Triangle, 255 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:48.480 and these include unexplained electromagnetic anomalies, compass malfunctions, and mysterious lights in the 256 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.400 sky. Some have speculated that these phenomenon could be caused by a geological or 257 00:20:52.480 --> 00:21:00.400 atmospheric anomaly, while others believe they may be evidence of extraterrestrial activity or inter 258 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.559 dimensional portals. Remember when we did our show on the Bermuda Triangle and we 259 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.519 covered that famous story of the guys. I think it was just after World 260 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:14.720 War Two and they were just doing routine training and they have the audio of 261 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:19.759 them as they go into the Bermuda Triangle and their compass must have completely malfunctioned 262 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:23.599 because they thought they were in a totally different location than they were. And 263 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:29.279 that was four or five planes and they've never been recovered, right, I 264 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.920 do remember that. And you know, as you're talking, I'm thinking about 265 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:40.440 just the globe itself and how far north Alaska is. And I bet you 266 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:45.000 that if we had go down this rabbit hole further, we might find some 267 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:56.200 similar anomalies and flight mishaps and other countries at that same latitude and longitudinal kind 268 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.440 of area, just as we find in the South Pole as well. And 269 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.000 I just wonder if all of this has something to do with the Earth's magnetic 270 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:08.559 field. And this is just stabbed the non scientist surmising. No, but 271 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.359 that's a really good point. So if you took that latitude longitude and carried 272 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:18.559 it around the globe and then research that area, I don't think that's non 273 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.920 science y. I think that's very it's a very good points. Yeah, 274 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.400 another rabbit hole to go down where we gett's right in our free time exactly. 275 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.759 All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and 276 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:38.559 discuss the Vermont Triangle. DEB and I offer a variety of products and services 277 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:42.960 on our website. DEV has a new interactive self paced to road class called 278 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.079 The Fool's Journey. For twenty two weeks, you'll receive classwork, emails and 279 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.680 videos helping you understand the major arcana. We both offer numerology reports and several 280 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:57.200 e courses on topics like working with the moon cycles, crystals, and developing 281 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:03.839 your psychic abilities also offered crystal bracelets that are handmade and blessed with good intentions 282 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.400 and affirmations. 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So after five people went missing between nineteen forty five and nineteen 290 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:56.680 fifty and their disappearances were never solved, rumors started swirling about government secret projects, 291 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:03.119 alien abductions, and even the monstrously ravenous Wendigo creature. Locals have long 292 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:08.200 belief that the veil is thinner, while others believe it's the home to an 293 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:15.279 interdimensional portal, which is just one explanation for the large number of people that 294 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.240 go missing in this area and Here are some of the most notable stories and 295 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:26.000 incidences associated with the Vermont Triangle. Tell Us about Paula Weldon. In nineteen 296 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.319 forty six, eighteen year old Paula Welden vanished while hiking on the Long Trail 297 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:37.799 near Glastonbury Mountain. Despite extensive search efforts involving hundreds of volunteers and law enforcement 298 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.799 agencies, no trace of Paula was ever found, and her disappearance still to 299 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.920 this day, remains one of the most enduring mysteries of the Bennington Triangle. 300 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.480 Just around that same time, experienced hunting guide Midi Rivers disappeared without our trees 301 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.799 as well. He was leading a group of hunters near the Somerset Reservoir and 302 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:03.559 again an extensive search operation hundreds of volunteers military personnel, but no sign of 303 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:08.599 Rivers was ever found, and just like Paula, his disappearance is still baffling 304 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.599 investigators to this day. Team forty nine, James Tedford disappeared. He was 305 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:21.960 a World War II veteran. He vanished from a crowded bus traveling through the 306 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.359 Bennington Triangle. Witnesses reported seeing him on the bus shortly before it reached the 307 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:32.599 last stop at Bennington, but when the bus arrived, he had disappeared without 308 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:37.680 a trace. His belongings were still on the bus and there was no sign 309 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.839 of foul play. Someone beamed him up, Dub. That's exactly what I 310 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.319 thought, Samantha. It's like, oh, yikes, you know, here 311 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.839 come the people who take people on the ship. Here we go? Is 312 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.519 you know what? I was just thinking. If all these locals and these 313 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:57.640 different paranormal triangle locations think it's an interdimensional portal, I totally get that. 314 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.279 I'm down with that. I love doing the research on our dimensional time jumping 315 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:04.720 show. I remember that when a couple of years back, I do. 316 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.000 That was a fun show. It was, and it definitely made me think 317 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.960 about this idea of portals. So I get it and I'm on board with 318 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.599 it. But if there is an interdimensional portal, why aren't like lovely things 319 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.920 happening, like angels popping through? Why is it always creepy stuff and people 320 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.359 disappearing? I don't like that. Well, it depends on where the other 321 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:33.640 dimensions are. Great, But do you ever hear a hotspot for angels? 322 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:38.599 No, I don't dear, or a hotspot for miracles, Like wouldn't that 323 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.960 be great. Maybe some of the marry In sightings could be considered that. 324 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.839 I would think, let's go with that, let's do I like that idea 325 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:52.759 because I love reading about Marion sightings. Actually, But you know, I 326 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.880 wonder in all of these cases, the ones that we've just described here, 327 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:02.440 of these people who just poof just here, yeah, out of the Bennington 328 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:08.519 triangle. Wonder if they want it to go. I don't know. I 329 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.079 don't either. Well, you know, I'm a big fan of the missing 330 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:17.440 four one one work by Dave Polaid's. Yes, and if no one's heard 331 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.559 of that, just go find his YouTube channel because he's phenomenal and he's done 332 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:25.599 some amazing work on people who go missing in all sorts of weird areas, 333 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:30.640 but mainly he started with state parks and some of the conclusion well, he 334 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.599 hasn't drawn conclusions as to why this is happening, but he has drawn conclusions 335 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:41.599 as to who they're taking, and it's it does feel as though there's a 336 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.319 reason behind it. Like so many men who have gone missing deb in these 337 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:53.680 missing four one one cases are basically geniuses. Oh yeah, and it just 338 00:27:53.720 --> 00:28:00.000 makes you think, like, what are they after here? Right? All 339 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.559 right? Tell us about the Glastonbury Mountain curse. So, according to local 340 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:11.519 folklore, Glastonbury Mountain, located in the heart of the Bennington Triangle in Vermont, 341 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:18.240 is cursed. Old legends speak of evil spirits and forces inhabiting the mountain, 342 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.960 and some believe that these entities are responsible for the disappearances of all these 343 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:29.839 and these strange occurrences that happen. In addition to the disappearances, the triangle 344 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:34.200 has been the site of other bizarre incidences, including, of course, UFO 345 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:41.000 sightings, Bigfoot encounters. I always find that interesting they go together an unexplained 346 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:47.400 phenomenon. Some believe that these events are connected to the supernatural forces said to 347 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:52.599 lurk within the Vermont Triangle. Love the language of that, I'll talk about 348 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.559 what I mean by that. But despite investigations by law enforcement agencies and amateur 349 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:03.079 sleuths and all sorts of hunters, the mysteries of the Vermont Triangle have never 350 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:10.400 been fully explained. This area continues to attract curiosity seekers, paranormal investigators, 351 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:18.079 and thrill seekers hoping to uncover the truth behind it's enematic history. I find 352 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:26.519 it fascinating that whenever anything is written about a place, or a sequencing of 353 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.839 events that are in some way connected as what we're talking about here in this 354 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:37.480 episode. There's always, somehow in another a connection of UFO sightings and Bigfoot 355 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.920 and a host of other pieces of the puzzle that all seem to fit together. 356 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.960 And every once in a while I step back and I think, do 357 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:51.359 they really? I mean, in my mind, Bigfoot is this big guy 358 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.279 who hangs out in the forest. You know, He's like the quintessential hangout 359 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:02.720 in the forest and back to nature person thing. I don't think of UFOs 360 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.319 in that same way. I don't know that they're connected they I of course 361 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.960 don't know, but I do think of them as being very separate and distinct 362 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:18.680 and different energies. And I guess, yeah, no, you are making 363 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.400 sense, and we don't. Like you've never heard a report with a Bigfoot 364 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:29.960 encounter where they thought he was or she was incredibly intelligent. It's always like 365 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.440 this giant ape like creature. But when you have people who alleged to have 366 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:40.440 encountered extraterrestrial beings, they always seem to be incredibly intelligent, much more so 367 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.720 than we are. And that's one reason why I don't often put those two 368 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.119 together, and yet look at Skinwalker Ranch. I mean, how many times 369 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.039 have those two got hand in hand there as well? Absolutely, I think 370 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:57.279 that's just perhaps some way that the media or folks who haven't processed the possibility 371 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:03.799 of them being very different all up all that unknown stuff together. I may 372 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.680 be wrong about that, but it certainly seems that way to me. You 373 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.440 know what, I've often speculated. You know, you see these reports of 374 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:18.039 these extraterrestrial beings, and usually they're they're depicted as being pretty small in stature 375 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.440 and not not super strong. I think one of the best reports we have 376 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:29.400 of an alleged alien abduction is Travis Walton, who was in the forest with 377 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.519 his friends working for a logging company and they saw him be abducted. Remember 378 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:40.799 they the police thought his friends had actually hurt him, and then were investigating 379 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.799 him for a potential for the friends for a potential murder. And then Travis 380 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.559 shows up several days later like ten pounds then are in a huge beard, 381 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.960 and he said that the Grays abducted him and that they were tiny and he 382 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.279 was able to fight them. They were like little and had no strength. 383 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.559 So what if what if Bigfoot is like our version of a Doberman or a 384 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:07.440 whiteweiler. You know, it's like just their little security force. Who knows. 385 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.920 I mean, I just have no idea. And the other thing that 386 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.400 I think is weird is there's always a mountain connected to a lot of these 387 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:22.160 mysterious places, and people will report seeing UFOs go in and out of these 388 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.359 mountains. You know. One of the things I didn't include in these notes 389 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.359 because I feel like it should be a show all to itself. There was 390 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:35.759 just too much on it. But there's a hidden underground pyramid in Alaska in 391 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:40.000 this location. Yeah, and there's been all sorts of weird stuff cited and 392 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.640 experienced around that underground pyramid. We'll have to do a show on that at 393 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.200 some point, I know. And yes, as you're talking and thinking about 394 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:54.119 mountains and so forth, one piece of that that seems logical to me is, 395 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.680 yes, in fact, if beings are coming to Earth from other places, 396 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:00.880 well it would be easier for them to get to the top of a 397 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.319 mountain than down in some kind of valley somewhere, you know. Yeah, 398 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.839 But then there's the San Louis Valley question that has skinwalker ranches and some of 399 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.000 that stuff. So I don't really know. But as you're talking, I'm 400 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:22.440 thinking back to Golly forty some years ago when Shirley McClain wrote out on a 401 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.599 limb and she is for a period of time with a friend of hers in 402 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.720 the mountains of Peru, and they're talking to the people in this village where 403 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.920 they are staying, and they ask, you know, have you ever seen 404 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.720 any odd lights or being kind of hanging out here in the mountains? And 405 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:45.079 the answer from every single one of them was yes, that's very common where 406 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.279 we live, so wild. And then I wonder, there's the thought that 407 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.799 there's so much quarts in these mountains, is that a conductor of energy that 408 00:33:53.960 --> 00:34:00.200 helps facilitate their propulsion machines? Like who knows? Often wondered if that's why 409 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:07.280 Steven Spielberg chose to film Close Encounters of the Third Kind at Devil's Tower, 410 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.639 because that's what Devil's Tower is is giant based courts. Well, I heard 411 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.599 a Coast to Coast interview years ago that said that mysterious government officials asked Steven 412 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.800 Spielberg to write that movie to see how we would respond. Ooh, that's 413 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.440 an interesting thought. I don't know, I know, let's move on to 414 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.639 Michigan, shall we Yes? Okay, so there's there's a triangle in Michigan. 415 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.039 I did not know this one. The mystique of the Michigan Triangle dates 416 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:45.079 back centuries, with indigenous folklore recounting tales of strange disappearances and unexplained phenomenon within 417 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:50.239 its boundaries. Records of these anomalous events began to surface in the late nineteenth 418 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.760 century, which coincided with the rise of maritime activity in the Great Lakes region. 419 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.280 Notable incidents include the vanishing of ships and planes. Add to this, 420 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:05.039 sudden elect ronnic valfunctions, weird weather patterns, and unexplained sightings have all added 421 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.400 to the paranormal lore of this area. One of the most enduring mysteries of 422 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.440 the Michigan Triangle is the series of disappearances that have occurred within its waters. 423 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.800 Vessels ranging from small boats to large ships have vanished without a trace, leaving 424 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.239 behind no wreckage or evidence of their fate. Among the most well known cases 425 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.639 is the disappearance of the s S. Francisco Morazen in nineteen sixty, which 426 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:34.159 vanished near South Manitou Island under circumstances that remain unexplained to this day, just 427 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.920 as many planes as ships go missing in this strange area too. One such 428 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:44.320 incident occurred in nineteen fifty when Northwest Airlines Flight two five zero one, carrying 429 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:51.880 fifty eight passengers disappeared over Lake Michigan without issuing a distress call. Despite extensive 430 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:57.000 search efforts, the wreckage has never been recovered, leaving behind a haunting mystery 431 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.960 that continues to intrigue aviation experts today. And reports of sudden and unexplained electronic 432 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.920 malfunctions as we've mentioned, have further contributed to the mystique of the Michigan Triangle. 433 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:15.920 Pilots and sailors have reported instances of navigation equipment malfunctioning or becoming completely inoperable 434 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:22.599 while in the area, leading to concerns about potential electromagnetic anomalies or other unknown 435 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:29.119 forces at play. Geologists, meteorologists, and marine biologists have conducted studies to 436 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:36.519 investigate potential natural explanations for this paranormal phenomenon. While some anomalies can be attributed 437 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:42.079 to known environmental factors, others remain elusive, challenging the boundaries of our current 438 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:47.599 scientific understanding. And finally, we have one more spooky, haunted triangle to 439 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:53.440 discuss, and that is where else in Nevada. Did you know that between 440 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:59.159 Fresno, Las Vegas and Reno, more than two thousand planes have vanished in 441 00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:04.840 the past fifty fifty years, just gone missing. Let's talk about the series 442 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:12.639 of aircraft disappearances that have occurred. Numerous pilots have reported encountering disturbances that they 443 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:19.400 can't explain while we're flying over this region, including sudden loss of communication, 444 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.480 instrument malfunctions, and strange weather patterns. One of the most well known cases 445 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:31.639 is the disappearance of millionaire aviator Stephen Fausted in two thousand and seven, whose 446 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.400 aircraft vanished without a trait while flying over this rugged terrain of Nevada. I 447 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.480 remember that one so well. I do know who Stephen Foscett was. Yeah, 448 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.119 that was really strange because he was so well known and had his wife 449 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:52.519 had so many personal financial resources. They searched for him forever I know, 450 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.880 and didn't find a trace. I do remember that one reports have encounters with 451 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.719 unidentified aerial phenomena, one which of course we still call UFOs, have further 452 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.840 contributed to the mystique of this Nevada Triangle. Pilots, military personnel, and 453 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:14.880 civilians have reported sightings of strange lights, unusual aircraft, and other objects in 454 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:20.000 the sky above the region. While skeptics attribute these sightings to natural or man 455 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:27.760 made phenomena, others believe they may be indicative of extraterrestrial activity or advanced military 456 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:32.440 technology. You might remember a recent sighting by family back in April of twenty 457 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.360 twenty three, just a little over a year ago, when the Kenmore family 458 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.840 called nine to one one to report something that looked to be quote not human 459 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:50.000 in their backyard. Yikes. The family even took some pretty convincing video of 460 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:57.280 the incident. Police investigated mainly because other officers had spotted a mysterious flashing light 461 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.039 that same evening in the sky. Well. Just last month, the veteran 462 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:12.159 crime scene recreation expert named Scott Roder analyzed the video that shows two creatures in 463 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:17.119 the Kenmore's backyard and says the video has not been altered and he believes he 464 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.400 is seeing the image of not one, but two beings. He told reporter 465 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:28.039 Rich Johnson. Once you see it, you can't deny it. There's no 466 00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.599 eddy. This is an original video. We tried to debunk it to see 467 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.400 if there was something that was added to the video. All our results come 468 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.199 back as it was authentic. Johnson writes it took a lot of views before 469 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.719 he spotted something that he initially missed two beings in the video at the same 470 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:53.119 time. Rotor used motion tracking software, which also pinpoints the source of the 471 00:39:53.159 --> 00:40:00.719 motion, and says that he took the vector motion in space and then we 472 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:06.800 attached that to a figure in the background to show that the movement of the 473 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.800 shadow reflects the movement of a body that is attached to a head. We 474 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.599 don't believe it's a floating head. We believe it's attached to a body, 475 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.920 and the motion of that head from right to left is consistent with the motion 476 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:27.519 that we see between the slats of the fence. It's there. It's absolutely 477 00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.000 there. End quote. That was a pretty big story last year. I 478 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.320 don't know if you remember that one. We might have covered it in one 479 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.639 of our paranormal news stories. But that family was on video, and what's 480 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:45.440 interesting is you can hear their shocked response on video. You know how sometimes 481 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.960 you can tell when something's kind of been planned or hoaxed. They don't have 482 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.320 the same initial gut reaction of shock and all. But you can hear it 483 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:58.760 in the video, and you can also hear on another video of the police 484 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.719 officers talking to them, and the police officers say like, yeah, like 485 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:07.039 we responded because we saw some weird stuff in the sky too. There's just 486 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:12.760 so much that adds credibility to this sighting and this report from the crime scene 487 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.119 expert Scott RhD Or that just was released a couple of weeks ago. What 488 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.920 would you do? I mean, you have a fenced in backyard. What 489 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.119 would you do if you looked out of your kitchen window and low and pole, 490 00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.480 they are these people hanging out in your backyard. What would be your 491 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.280 first response to that? Well, if they were people, I called nine 492 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.480 one one, But what if they were sort of people? If they were 493 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.679 sort of people, I get my holy water? What would you do? 494 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:47.000 I called Joel? But besides, I don't know. I mean I would 495 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.239 I would want someone to verify it. I mean I would certainly call the 496 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.719 police, obviously I would, But but what how do you even begin to 497 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:01.320 process that? Like this family's trying to. I don't know. I'll tell 498 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:06.719 you it's weird. My daughter Olivia and I were driving home the other night, 499 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.880 and we're coming into the neighborhood and there is this bright green light, 500 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.559 not flashing, not blinking, just a solid circle of green light, big, 501 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.079 big, big, big above the right, hovering above the tree line. 502 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.360 And I was like, Olivia, what is that? And she's like, 503 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.679 I don't know, Mom, that's weird. And so I pulled the 504 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.239 car over and I was like, take video. And I'm watching her video 505 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:35.320 it through her phone and it does not look as clear and as it just 506 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.079 looked different through her phone right, And I'm like, oh, I wish 507 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.039 we could capture these things as they are. And so we just kind I 508 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.719 drove very very slowly and we just followed it as it bobbed above the trees. 509 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:51.320 We had all the windows down. It was making no sound, and 510 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.480 then it just blinked out and disappeared. So I, you know, obviously 511 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.920 I know the area I live in, so I whipped around the neighborhood behind 512 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:02.599 ours. We could not find this thing again. So I sent the video 513 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.280 to a couple of people who know about this stuff and you know, have 514 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:12.039 used drones, and they said it's probably a drone, but drones normally have 515 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.159 a green light and a red light, and the lights aren't that big and 516 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.559 you can usually hear them, and in that video you can tell it's silent. 517 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:22.840 So I don't know what it was. I'm not claiming you know, 518 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.800 we saw a UFO. I don't know what it was, but I'll tell 519 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.159 you it was weird because we had this moment of like, what the hell 520 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.239 is that? And then the next ding we just didn't talk about it. 521 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.880 Do you ever have like when weird stuff happens, it's like your brain doesn't 522 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.400 know how to like where to file it, so you're like, well, 523 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.159 that was strange. Moving on what's for breakfast? Right? Exactly because our 524 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.360 brains don't know where to file it, we don't know what to do with 525 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:55.119 it, and because the plethor of possibilities that it could be are too big 526 00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.079 for us to handle, so we just don't know what to do with it. 527 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.679 Also, we pushed it away right right, but like, it's not 528 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.360 even too big for me to handle or I think for you to handle. 529 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.639 We've been researching and fascinated by this stuff most of our lives, and yet 530 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.519 I don't know, we just you know, we did talk about it a 531 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.599 couple other times, you know, we met some friends out for dinner, 532 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.800 and I was like, oh, Libt's pull up that video, and you 533 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:22.760 know, the friends looked at it and they were like, yeah, that's 534 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.000 weird. Can we get some more bread? Like it's like weird. People 535 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:31.440 don't know what to do with it, right. I remember driving down the 536 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:37.440 Inner State, Golly, this has been many years ago, and glancing up 537 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.719 and thought I was seeing you know how sunlight'll sometimes bounce off of a plane 538 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.760 that's angled at just the right angle, yeah, in the sky, and 539 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.199 I thought, oh, my boy, that's a happy plane up there in 540 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:54.480 all this bright sunshine. And then it burned and it wasn't. It was 541 00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:01.039 very cigar shape, but not like a plane, and it flew directly in 542 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:06.000 front of me in the sky, but directly in front of me for a 543 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:09.440 long time, and even when the road turned, the plane was still there. 544 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.800 It was really bizarre, and I have often wondered what on this lovely 545 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:16.239 morning, it was a weekday morning, I was on my way to a 546 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:21.440 meeting in another town. What in the world I was really seeing? And 547 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.000 I don't know, you know, this may have just been Deb's imagination running 548 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:29.079 wild. It may have been something from somewhere else. It may have been 549 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.679 just a plane, and the way the light caught it was odd. I 550 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.840 have no way of knowing. I don't know if anybody else ever saw it 551 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:45.000 or not. Do you know if Moufon is still in existence. I don't 552 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:51.519 know. I don't think it is. I remember when we were interviewing the 553 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.039 woman who rode American Cosmos. I thought she had said they kind of shut 554 00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.440 down or they're not as active, but that might have been because of COVID. 555 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.360 I need to look into that. I think there was reports of a 556 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:06.320 lot of infighting. I don't know the answer to that, folks. One, 557 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.519 I'm asking Samantha that as an organization that it's at one point was basically 558 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:16.800 a clearinghouse and a collection point nationally for reports of UFO or other kinds of 559 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.760 strange sightings, and they really did at one point do a very good job 560 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.800 of keeping records of that sort of thing. But I don't know whether or 561 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.880 not they're still doing that. They need to, because it's like, you 562 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.000 don't know what to do with this stuff. I remember when we had the 563 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:37.800 big eclipse. You think it was twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen, 564 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.679 Okay, so I was very excited. I got the glasses for my 565 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.840 girls and I and I spread out a blanket in our front yard and had 566 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.800 a little picnic and we waited for the eclipse. And my youngest daughter was 567 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.840 really into photography at that point and time, and her dad had gotten her 568 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.039 this really cool attachment that enabled her to take some amazing photos of the moon. 569 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.960 And so she was like, I'm going to put my glasses on and 570 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.000 put this little clip thing on the camera and try to video the eclipse, 571 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.639 like without really looking, you know, at it. And so that's what 572 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.559 she did. And when we viewed it, it was crazy. We saw 573 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:17.239 a picture like a silvery white boomerang, except it's going over itself again and 574 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.119 again, kind of like a slinky. Does that make sense, Like you 575 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.639 were going to tyke time time left photography? Yeah, no, no, 576 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.800 it was like this object was going past the eclipse. Oh oh, I 577 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.960 see, And it was a it was a boomerang, silvery white shape, 578 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:39.079 and it was like going like almost somersaulting over itself. So rather than just 579 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.960 flying or soaring or going left or right, it was turning over and over 580 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:49.239 and over h and it went right past the eclipse. And it was really 581 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.559 clear, and we were like, what the hell is that? And I 582 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.639 said, well, girls, apparently aliens are giving tour guides of the eclipse. 583 00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.960 I had no idea what to say, because it couldn't It was just 584 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.119 weird. Anyway, we did show that video to a lot of people. 585 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.400 I'm pretty sure I sent it to you and Joel and everyone was like, 586 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.760 I don't know what that is. And then just a couple of years later, 587 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.039 I was like, Chloe, where's that video? Like, let's pull 588 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.199 that out. It's gone. We don't know where it is. She never 589 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:20.480 deleted it, but we can't find it interesting. Wow. Well, you 590 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.800 know, Samantha, I really do hope that folks have enjoyed going down these 591 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.639 rabbit holes with us today. Whether you believe in this stuff or not, 592 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.440 it's fascinating and interesting to entertain the idea, you know, Yeah, it 593 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.880 really is. And to pay attention to where you live and what the location 594 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.480 of where you live is doing to you, and in terms of the experiences 595 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.679 you're having. Yeah, if you're traveling, you know, and you think, 596 00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.559 oh, you know, let's go to ver Mountain for the fall and 597 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.480 look at the beautiful leaves, well you might want to be sure you know 598 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.400 where you're going. That's right, you know. Wouldn't that be fun? 599 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:07.280 Ooh, Psychic Teacher's road Trip. I'd love to do this. Thank you 600 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.440 guys so much for listening. We hope you enjoyed this week's show. Have 601 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.159 a great week, and please rumor as always to be the light for yourself 602 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:27.320 and others. Take care everyone. Thank you for listening to Psychic Teachers, 603 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.960 your podcast for seekers, light workers, mystics, and magical thinkers. If 604 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.840 you like the show, please tell a friend or leave us a review wherever 605 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.800 you listen to your podcast. For more information, check out our Facebook page 606 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:44.119 Psychic Teachers, or our websites Samantha Fay dot com and deb Bowen dot com. 607 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.920 I have a new book out called The Awake Dreamer Lucid Dreaming, astral 608 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.519 travel and Mastering the Dreamscape. You can find it wherever books are sold. 609 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:53.679 Thanks for listening and have a great week.