WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:06.200 Stringy Live. I mean iHeartRadio. Who This is I on the Ball with 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:12.359 Steve Rivera and Jay Goobnzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:14.839 to win the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.320 Jay. Now we are breaking news. So hope it's not broken up. 5 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:23.920 This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Okay. 6 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:28.039 As we briefly mentioned at the top of the show, the PAC twelve 7 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:34.280 Women's All Conference of wards have been handed out today. There is some Arizona 8 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:39.920 presence in it, but starting with the big awards, the Player of the 9 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:44.880 Year and Defensive Player of the Year is Cameron Brink from Stanford, who's like 10 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:50.159 thirty five years old. I think she did not play when Arizona beats Stanford 11 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:52.759 that day, right, she was out that day. But she was on 12 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.799 that team that Arizona beat or play again in the National Chamchampionship. It's been 13 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.679 around a long time, but she was the Player of the Year and Defensive 14 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.519 Player of the Year, as you admir as you might expect, Juju Watkins 15 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:08.079 the Freshman of the Year, UH sixth Player of the Year to Mayor Gardner 16 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:14.560 from Oregon State, the most improved player, Kiki Iriaffin from Stanford, and 17 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.920 the coach of the year Terror Van Derveer from Stanford, and the other coach 18 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:22.439 of the year Stanford. It's a good Okay, I know they're obviously good. 19 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:23.519 She can win it all. She can win it all the time. 20 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.799 Yeah, I guess who finished first, second, third, who fin a 21 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:33.040 second? I think, I think what Arizona. I mean Arizona, Stanford, 22 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:38.439 U C l A, Utah, Colorado. I believe us c Okay, 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.519 I believe. Okay, there's I'm asking questions I should ask because I 24 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:44.879 don't know the answer. We'll get We'll we'll we'll get We'll get back that. 25 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:49.760 But anyways, from from an Arizona standpoint, Helena PuO on the first 26 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.719 team, which is nice. Nice. She's a fifth year player, first 27 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.480 time, first time on the All on the All Pac twelve team. She 28 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:05.840 uh she's on there with There's two four time selections on that team. Charlie 29 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:09.319 Slager Walker from Washington State and Charisma Osborne from UCLA, both on it for 30 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:16.039 the fourth time. Cameron Brink from Stanford Alissa Peelee from Utah on for the 31 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:22.759 third time. Here's an interesting note for for Arizona women's fans. Aaronet Vondley, 32 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.759 who transferred from Arizona to Colorado, was the first team. I'll pack 33 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:32.000 twelve on there. Juju Watkins obviously on the first team as well. Honorable 34 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:39.120 mentioned was as Mary Martinez, so she got she got some votes, and 35 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:46.159 then Helena Pueo second time on the All Defensive team. There was one Cameron 36 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:50.560 brink Is, a three time selection to that and honorable mentioned for All Defensive 37 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.800 Team, also as Mary Martinez. And then the All Freshman team got Jada 38 00:02:53.840 --> 00:03:00.199 Williams, the little point guard who really took over for Kaylen Gilbert. She 39 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.000 hit the she was on our show, hit the two bank shots in the 40 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:07.960 Stanford win. She was on the All Freshman team. And then two players, 41 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.840 two players from Arizona were honorable mentioned All Freshman Brave counting out and Skylard 42 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.960 Joe. Okay, a lot of a lot of names out there, you 43 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:20.319 know, for a seventh place team. Not bad, not bad. Yeah. 44 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:24.240 So anyways, all right, this is that this has got actually gotten 45 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:29.560 kind of funny because I think I mentioned to you when when when this came 46 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:36.039 up. So some renderings have come out of the Oakland A's Stadium. Yeah, 47 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.199 it's going to be built where the Tropic Canada Hotel is across the street 48 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:45.120 from the M Jim Grant Caddy Corner from New York, New York, and 49 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:51.199 then across the street on the other side from No. No from the ex 50 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.159 Caliber right basically in the area of the Mando Lay. So these renderings have 51 00:03:54.199 --> 00:04:00.319 come out and you look at them. It's got this weird dome thing, 52 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:05.159 see it, you know, And I said, my first reaction was, 53 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:10.159 that's the Sydney Opera House. Somebody stole the plans to the Sydney Opera House. 54 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:12.759 Uh, the one, the thing that you see all the time in 55 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.439 the the tourist pictures and stuff. And sure enough, s I did an 56 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:21.480 article about how fan reaction has been. Somebody built is gonna build the Sydney 57 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:25.759 Opera House. It doesn't look a little bit in Vegas. Look a half 58 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.160 shell roof. Yeah, well that's what I mean. You look at it 59 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.720 from the side, it's it's those roofs in the in the in the at 60 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.000 the Sydney Opera House. And it was the screens on the side and see 61 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:38.040 the right, it's kind of weird. Yeah, yeah, Like I said, 62 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.240 have screens on the other side to the front office. Sports Uh posted 63 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:48.519 the drawings of it. It's a one point five billion dollar ballpark and it 64 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.920 looks like it's kind of open air, but it's gonna have shade. I 65 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.959 would, I would imagine it's I can't even imagine stee that they're actually gonna 66 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.800 build this. It just looks like too much. Wait, it's in Vegas. 67 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.319 I know you have you seen the sphere the sphere I'm gonna go see 68 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.639 the sphere of that. Yeah, I mean, come on, what haven't 69 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.800 you seen in Vegas? That's strange? Yeah, or or over the top. 70 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.279 Now, I hear you, I hear you. But that's that's the 71 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:20.319 running joke on everybody that's that's reacting to that, like somebody's moving the Sydney 72 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:25.519 Operas kind of like my kids were shocked. Maybe I don't do you know, 73 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:29.759 it's maybe don't know. That's the original London Bridge Lake Oh yeah, 74 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:30.480 yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. We talk about there. You 75 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.920 want to learn bridge. My kids go, wait what yeah, yeah, 76 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.600 the Lounder Bridge, like the real under bridge, I said, the real 77 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.680 under bridge, the original under bridge. They took it apart and moved it 78 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.800 to lake. Why would they do that because somebody had the money to do 79 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.199 it, and they did it, and they built a city around it. 80 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.319 So the same kind of thing. So people are they just moved. They're 81 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:55.439 moving the Sydney Operase and making it a baseball stadium. See, it is 82 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.360 kind of weird, but it's I'm sure it's gonna look cool if they build 83 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:02.920 that. You have to be okay, Okay, I'm gonna go see the 84 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:08.680 spear though I haven't seen the sphere. Yeah, sat in when we were 85 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:11.879 over there in November, and what was the what was the design? That 86 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.519 was a lot of Formula one stuff Okay, the week before the Formula one 87 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.879 so it was a last but just a lot of different things, the moon 88 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.720 and you know what. Anyways, all right, but it was it was 89 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:28.199 very funny. What did I have? So? Uh oh? Caleb Love, 90 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.920 one of five finalists for the Jerry West Award, saw that it goes 91 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.519 to the back college basketball is top shooting guard. So one of the top 92 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:42.639 five here's at that position. Ye'll, he's gonna he's gonna make some All 93 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.399 America teams. Whether they's second, third team, I don't know. If 94 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.680 he's the first team All American the other the other. The other four guys 95 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.959 UH in the running with him are R. J. Davis at North Carolina 96 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:58.000 where everybody believes he's the guy, Kevin mccullor at Kansas, Antonio Reeves at 97 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.160 Kentucky, and Tyson Walker at Michigan State. Those are the five finalists, 98 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:08.600 four part of the Jerry West UH Shooting Guard of the Year. So let's 99 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:13.000 see if you get something like that that that would get him in the Yeah, 100 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:15.920 in the ring of honor with just one year under the BELTI year zone. 101 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:20.120 Did you see that Purdue plays Illinois tonight on the road at Illinois. 102 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.240 I'm taking Illinois and it's a two. You're gonna if you do, you 103 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.920 have to take give them two and a half. Yeah, so I would 104 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.519 agree with you on that. Yeah, Illinois pretty darn good. And again, 105 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.240 man, those road teams going to you know the road right right profile 106 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:42.360 a last well in effect Purdue obviously for their for their seat. Uh you 107 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.040 see, let's excuse me. Did you see I watched a little Princeton last 108 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.240 night? Their Princeton, Man, I think they're twenty six and three. 109 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:56.639 Uh. Uh, good luck to who ever has to play them again because 110 00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:00.839 they have a year of experience under them from the Bensabloy. They're the same 111 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.360 team pretty much, and they're methodical as all. Hell. Yeah, good 112 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.399 luck. I came across the highlights of the time, the upset U c 113 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.879 l A yeah, the tail end of that, the back door and the 114 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:18.399 peak uh pekill yeah peek carel Yeah. And you know the little old guy 115 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.360 that was on the side with like a little like Yoda maybe yeah, you 116 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.120 know, on the sidelines and winning on that back door cut for the winning 117 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.079 basket and watching l go down. I'm sure you haven't seen the replaces of 118 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.799 Arizona getting beat, but I don't watch that. It looks better TikTok. 119 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.080 They know it's better than it looks sounds better that Arizona. Getting back to 120 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:48.360 the conversation we're having about women's basketball, Fox Sports is saying that women's basketball 121 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.360 on the Fox games that have been on the games have been on Fox, 122 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.039 women's basketball has averaged more viewers than their men's games. Yeah. Yeah. 123 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.440 If there's one one a group that's gonna miss Kate and Clark, it's Fox 124 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:09.080 Sports because he's held She's helped with the with the ratings. I had to 125 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.759 have that conversation again with some guys, uh this morning. You know we're 126 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.159 talking. I just I heard him talking about how you know Kaylyn Clark, 127 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.960 she's gonna go to the w n B A. She's gonna take a pay 128 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:22.519 cut because all this money to making. Guys. Guy, she's on state 129 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.000 farm commercials. She those are going with her. Well, she just got 130 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.120 a new one today because she's gonna botherbly be the number one girl being drafted. 131 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.000 Uh. And she's gonna go to Indiana. She's got signed with the 132 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:41.840 the post sponsor of the Indiana UH stadium, I forgot where he was. 133 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:46.480 The arena name is gonna They just signed her. You're gonna make more money, 134 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.240 guys. You know, let's not that's that guy kind of don't. 135 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.679 She wasn't getting paid out of the nil collective in Iowa. She's getting paid 136 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.799 by corporation who she's plugging their stuff. Don't cry for Kate, don't cry 137 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.519 for exactly. That's that's a really good point. So I thought that was 138 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.879 very interesting. Jason Sheer reporting that Bill Walton is back. He'll be doing 139 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:13.960 both Arizona games with Dave Passion this week. So some fans are happy. 140 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.600 Some fans are this Bran Jeffers is gonna be you know, tuned in in 141 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.200 somebody's living room with game on. This is gonna be last hurrah probably because 142 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.360 of the Conference of Champions is going away. Yeah, he'll do some ESPN 143 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.440 stuff. Yeah, but I'm talking Conference of Conference of Champions. Yeah, 144 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.399 this is it. And I'm sure we'll see him next week at the at 145 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.559 the Back tournament. Oh so he's doing it this weekend. No, he's 146 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.879 got two games the Arizona UCLA this week and then we'll see him. Well, 147 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:48.639 we'll catch him next week. Yes, I'll be there for that. 148 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.559 That's sort of that's like I kind of run out of stuff. Oh, 149 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.600 okay, we got four minutes. Okay, let's talk about this college football 150 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:01.879 staff. Okay, so last week, late last week, a proposal spilled 151 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:07.320 out that they that mainly driven by the SEC and the Big twelve, in 152 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.679 the Big Ten that even before we've gotten the twelve team playoff, but they 153 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.879 want to go to fourteen teams, right. They want three automatic bids for 154 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.039 the SEC and the Big Ten, two for the ACC and the Big twelve. 155 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.279 So that's ten of the bids right there, one for the group of 156 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.559 five the best group of five team and then three at large. But then 157 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.039 and people are like, okay, not bad, but you know, why 158 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.240 are we changing it when we haven't even played at one time? Then we're 159 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:46.200 leaked out that the Big ten and a fourteen team tournament would require two first 160 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.759 round by two teams will get a first round by, and the Big Ten 161 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:56.360 and the SEC want those automatically. They want to get the number one and 162 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:03.600 two and two seed automatically regardless of what the season looks like. Their champion 163 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.639 could have two losses and the ACC or the Big twelve champion could be undefeated, 164 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.120 and yet the Big twelve gets one, I mean, the Big ten 165 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.240 gets one, and the and the SEC gets the other. Now people are 166 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.240 losing their minds. What the hell are you doing? Right? Powerships, 167 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.600 power trips than they want to say. They're saying, you're obviously don't give 168 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:28.440 one crap about whether or not this playoff is legit. All you want is 169 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.879 more power and more money. Right, And people are pissed now, right 170 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:37.600 and saying, and there's a lot of thought that if the leagues, like 171 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.399 the ACC and the Big twelve basically say we're not we're not giving you that, 172 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.759 that they'll break up football, that SEC and the Big twelve will go 173 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.279 off and play their own championship and call it the national championship. That it's 174 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.360 as close, that's closer to happening than it has ever been because of this. 175 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.320 Sure, we'll see what happens. I don't think it'll work. I 176 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.559 don't know. What do you think the fourteen team thing? Fine? Do 177 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.559 that, sure, but not but not the fact, you know, the 178 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.120 big fove of the a CC should love that because now you're top two teams 179 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.840 are automatically in the playoffs. Why why have they said why fourteen and not 180 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.840 sixteen? Just make it easy for eight and eight in boom in fourteen because 181 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.240 you know they're going to go to sixteen and they mentioned go to twenty four. 182 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.039 Yeah, then you know what I'm saying. It's just what it is. 183 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.159 I don't know. That's strange to mean that numbers just strange. Did 184 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.120 you see that the Dartmouth College men's basketball team has unionized? They did, 185 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.879 and that both coming up thirteen to two. Good, be careful what you 186 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.879 wish right right now. You're now you're gonna be a employee. You're gona 187 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.039 be employed, or you're going to kill the team, right, yeah, 188 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.759 you know. Okay, Now your employees guess by employees of what you know, 189 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:58.240 the programs kind of at that level, should just be happy that they 190 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.960 have a sport, right you're artments, you're getting a great education. Be 191 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.279 happy that you've got a sport to play. Right now, you want to 192 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.080 get paid for that, you know, I get it if you're at U 193 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:13.480 C. L A or Arizona or Ohio State or Kentucky or whatever. But 194 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.639 at Dartmouth you're not. You're not bringing in that kind of jack. Yeah, 195 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.120 you know, and they don't even get scholarship. Settle things. Here's 196 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.120 a here's a statement in there. Dartmouth has already indicated it will appear the 197 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.799 appeal to the decision by the n l RB to recognize the players as employees 198 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.919 who are eligible to join a union. Again, be careful what you wish 199 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:33.480 for, because you may you just may not. At that level, you 200 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.200 just might not have a basketball program if you want to be employees, or 201 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.120 your tuition becomes it's so different nowadays, right, So let's go, we 202 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.759 gotta get gotta get Joe. They're not thinking all right, Joe Levano, 203 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.360 the head coach at South Point. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of your bad 268 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.519 bugs, termites, bees, or rodents serving Tucson and Southern Arizona since nineteen 269 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:32.839 forty seven. Go to azypest dot com to schedule your free evaluation today. 270 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:41.160 Breaking down all the exes at OHS. It's Steve Rivera and Jacin Salvinz. 271 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.559 This is I on the Park on Fox Sports fourteenth Divy. Hey, welcome 272 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.279 back to Why the Ball Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Sive Rivera. 273 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.640 Here's Jagins Sauce down the phone. We have Joseph Louvno the South Points 274 00:19:52.720 --> 00:20:00.599 girls basketball team champions, State champions. Joseph, how are you, Steve? 275 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.559 I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. This is your second one, 276 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.079 right, this is our second day championship second three years and it was 277 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.799 our third trip in four years. Nice, What what the heck are you 278 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:18.000 doing there? What's your secret sauce and doing so well? Uh, the 279 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:23.759 secret is hard work and really great kids that buy in and want to come 280 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:26.680 in and be selfless. You know, I heard you guys talking a little 281 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:33.119 bit ago about the women's game and on Fox how the numbers have climbed, 282 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.559 and you know, Caitlin Clark does have a lot to do with that, 283 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.000 but a lot has to do with the fact that the women's game is it's 284 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.440 a little different. It's it's a little more team oriented. It's it's a 285 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.799 little more old school basketball. It's a little bit more about the week and 286 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.720 less about the me and my kids are are kind of doing that to the 287 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.640 tea. So we have a lot of talent and kids that make sacrifices for 288 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:03.759 individual awards and individual accolades so they can chase championships. That's an interesting perspective 289 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.279 because we're talking. We talked to Mike Bibb in the first hour and we're 290 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.559 asking him how has the game changed, you know, at the college level, 291 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:11.519 you know, the men's game, and you know, he had some 292 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.400 different ideas and different things. But you just mentioned, you know, with 293 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.200 the girls game, particularly at the high school level, it's not like, 294 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.039 Okay, we got one great player and that's all we need, and you 295 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.240 know, and teams go off and win championships. You mentioned that you've got 296 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.400 you know, you put together a team of a bunch of good players. 297 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:33.799 How has that evolved over time? Have you seen how that has happened over 298 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.359 time? Is it just because girls are getting more interested in playing, Girls 299 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.279 are just playing longer, they're playing younger, those kinds of things. What 300 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:45.160 is it? Es definitely the hazard have not. It's becoming more and more 301 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.119 kids that are getting into it younger and developing saying with the game. And 302 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:56.039 then you know, you watch all these podcasts with Gilbert Arenas and various athletes 303 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.440 and they're saying the same things about how some of the au could sure some 304 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.240 of that games games, games, games culture is kind of ruining the games 305 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:06.599 on the men's side, and if you look at it, some of the 306 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:11.119 best players in NBA now are all foreigners and why And you know, the 307 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.920 women's game is still a little bit more old school, where there's a lot 308 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.880 more focus on the fundamentals there's a lot more focus on the team games. 309 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.000 And you can see that. You can see it translating in various things. 310 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.400 I mean, look at Okay, we use this as an example, like 311 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.000 Cavin Clark. Yes, she just said the scoring record, all time college 312 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:36.319 scoring record, which is amazing. That the woman also has one thousand career 313 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:41.559 assists, which is incredible as well. So it's it's a little different. 314 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:47.000 So, you know, we we we focus a lot on the team game. 315 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:48.960 You know, if you come to one of our practices, we work 316 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:53.440 a ton on team defense, a ton on transition, a ton on our 317 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.960 team offense. You don't see us spending a whole lot of time on individual 318 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.359 skill development, even though we do that on the offseason, and it is 319 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.279 important, it's incredibly important, But you're not going to see us run clear 320 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:11.079 outs or high ball screen basketball. You know, we just don't believe that 321 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:15.279 the long term that's going to be effective against three teams. So we work 322 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:19.480 on the team game and our motion offense, and our team our team defense, 323 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:26.079 and our ability to pressure the ball. And it's none of those things 324 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:27.960 can be done without talent. You know, we have incredible talent. We 325 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:34.519 have what I believe is probably the most talented junior class, potentially the most 326 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:41.400 talented individual class at one school. Ever. We have seven kids who have 327 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.920 the potential to play college somewhere in that twenty five class twenty twenty five class, 328 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:51.519 and three or four of them potentially at a high level. So they're 329 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.359 they're incredible, but they're selfless that they give up the individual accolades so that 330 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.240 they can chase the gold ball. So let me ask you, because I 331 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.799 know you from a different organization, so have you always coached the girls' teams? 332 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:10.559 Uh? Well, let me ask that first. I started this seven 333 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:12.519 a half years ago at Southpoint. A friend of mine was the head coach 334 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.480 at the time, and he brought me and his assistant. So I was 335 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.559 really fortunate that he gave me the opportunity and kind of opened the door. 336 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:26.440 And when he stepped down, I was very fortunate that Phil Gruenfelder and administration 337 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.559 at that point gave me the keys to the car, and so I was 338 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.000 gonna go here with it. And you don't have to answer if you don't 339 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.839 what Jay here has coached boys and girls, right, and I think there's 340 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:40.039 a noticeable difference, right. So that's where I kind of wanted to go 341 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.480 with it. Have you coached the boys at all and is there any difference. 342 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.519 I coached boys when I was young, I right out of high school 343 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.559 when I was doing some youth stuff, and I get to be around the 344 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.480 boys a lot and just watch them. There is a difference. There is 345 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:59.759 a difference. But you know, I was watching I was watching the playoffs, 346 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.279 and uh, especially on the boys and girls side, and the good 347 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.759 boys teams like Perry. Perry men's basketball just won the Open Division their second 348 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.000 year in a row, they won the Open Division and they have they have 349 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:18.000 CoA Pete who's you know, he's an Arizona recruit and he's he's a you 350 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.240 know, top five, you know, recruit of that class. And if 351 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.119 you even though they're so talented, if you watch Perry, that's a team 352 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.000 game. Like they're playing team basketball. They're really moving the ball, and 353 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.880 the best teams are doing that. So yes, there's a difference. There's 354 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.759 obviously a difference in athleticss them overall, but the best teams that are playing 355 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:44.440 team basketball and team defense, and uh, that that's where the difference doesn't 356 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.279 go away. What a concept, right, When do you play team play 357 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.960 team ball. I mean, that's what basketball is all about, supposed to 358 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.839 be, supposed to be. So, so just tell us little bit about 359 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.279 how your season went along. You played in the tournament early in the year, 360 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.960 lost game, and then when on a stretch, last one in in 361 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:07.079 in in Nevada, and then you get into the open division tournament. Just 362 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.359 did you know going in you guys are going to be this good. I'm 363 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.920 guessing you kind of expected that with you know how you talk about your talent, 364 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.160 but at some point in the season, it's kind of like, Okay, 365 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.640 we got a really good shot at winning state, the state championship. 366 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.920 Uh yeah, I mean we are. We are very blessed with talent. 367 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.240 Yeah, we have. Like I said before, we have seven or eight 368 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.440 kids right now that are fielding offers, some different schools at different levels. 369 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:37.160 We we had high expectations. We are. Our season here is nearly year 370 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.680 round. We take only about two months off. We we do lots of 371 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.559 things between strength training with Carl Garrett and lots of off season stuff. So 372 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.440 it's been a long, hard season. One one of the things that we've 373 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.480 pride ourselves on, especially the last four years, is we've consistently been a 374 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.119 top ten team in terms of strength of schedule in the state, which is 375 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.720 hard when you're in Tucson because that means you have to travel a lot. 376 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.599 So we go to Phoenix quite a bit, We go to California quite a 377 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.000 bit to play games so that we can keep so we can challenge ourselves, 378 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:14.240 and that that helps quite a bit. Arizona added an open division in basketball 379 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.920 last season, so this is the second year. We were actually the number 380 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.119 three seed in the open division, and we got upset by six A school 381 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:29.519 Value Vista in Phoenix, who had won several consecutive six A state championships, 382 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.559 and so we were upset a little bit. We were trying to strive for 383 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.680 that open division, but it all the way to set up. It allowed 384 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:42.160 us to go back into our own conference and win state championship and our side 385 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:47.440 of school because we only have twelve hundred kids in our school, and I 386 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.799 mean we're competing against schools that have thirty five hundred and in the Valley area, 387 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.920 and you know, winning state championships is difficult. It's not easy, 388 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:02.039 and we were blessed we are. Not only do we have great talent, 389 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.160 I kind of strongly believe I have the best coaching staff in Southern Arizona, 390 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.279 if not one of the best in the state. And I got some great 391 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:12.640 experience and we do our homework. In the last since since nineteen ninety, 392 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.279 so the last thirty four years, there have been one hundred and ninety state 393 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.319 championships in Arizona. So of large schools, so a thousand kids are more 394 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.519 enrollment. So one hundred and ninety state champions in those thirty four years. 395 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:33.359 Well then girls, and only eighteen of them come from Southern Arizona, so 396 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.319 eighteen out of one hundred and ninety potential championship. So it's hard, it's 397 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:42.119 difficult, and we're competing not just with bigger schools, but we're competing with 398 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:48.720 Phoenix, and Phoenix is growing. And I was talking to athletic director and 399 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.079 if you think about it, in the Tucson area, the large Tucson area, 400 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.880 that is, in the last thirty years, there's been what three new 401 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.960 schools, three or four new high schools total. In the Phoenix area there's 402 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:08.319 been twenty maybe they're thirty new high schools. And you can't compare that basketball 403 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.319 wise, So if you have to get the kids that want to kind of 404 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:17.319 make those sacrifices and come and play for us and do that. But it's 405 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:22.039 also having the mindset to be tough enough to work because those bigger schools in 406 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.759 the Phoenix area, they do basketball year round also, but they also have 407 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:33.200 basketball class and they have the seventh period, and they have kids that you 408 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.160 know, focus on one sport. And you know, I have fifteen kids 409 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.400 on my roster this year on bo varsity level, and seven of them are 410 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:45.319 multi sport athletes. So we have track players and volleyball players, and so 411 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:51.200 we're competing. The odds are against us a little bit, but we're lucky 412 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.960 that the last few years we've been able to compete for championships. So so 413 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.640 let me ask you good and we're talking to Joseph Lono, the South Point 414 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:02.519 girls basketball coach. For you state champions for the second time in three years. 415 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:03.839 You know this thing with the open you know, you go play in 416 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.640 the Open division, or you get eliminated in the second round, then you 417 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.720 turn around and go play in the four A. That seems like a weird 418 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.960 transition, right, you know, you have the disappointm appointment of the loss, 419 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:19.640 then you've got to turn around to kind of get your stuff together to 420 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.720 still you know, then you've got hey, well we still have an opportunity 421 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.039 to win a state championship. Tell me about that that transition and what that 422 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.000 was like, especially you know when you thought you had a shot at winning 423 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.680 the the Open division then then you get eliminated, and how you were able 424 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.640 to get your team back up to go off and win the state championship. 425 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.559 You know, it was it was a humbling, difficult day for two days. 426 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.599 We took us about two days to recover. And luckily that lost happened 427 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.039 on a Thursday, and then we had a Friday practice to regroup, and 428 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.319 then I kind of gave us the weekend off to reset and we we've then 429 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.839 played to the following Tuesday. So we had one practice to kind of regroup 430 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.119 a refocus, and that was tough. And my kids, my kids want 431 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.680 to compete at the highest level and they want to prove it. But when 432 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.720 we went and saw the film of Value Vista, so Vallee Vista, they're 433 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.599 a powerhouse in the Phoenix area. They won I forget I think five of 434 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:22.119 the last six six championships that they'd been tough for a long time. When 435 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.640 we went back and watched the film against Aalavista. They shot nearly sixty five 436 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.200 percent from the field against the against US, and we shot forty percent. 437 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.119 And we didn't play poorly. We played one quarter poorly, but the other 438 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:40.279 three quarters we outplayed them and we played really well. It's just that we 439 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:45.599 couldn't make a bucket when we actually needed to, and they kept hitting from 440 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.519 deep and we cut the lead to one three different times, and they hit 441 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.480 bank in threes and they hit shot. That's sometimes how the game goes. 442 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.240 So once we saw that film and sat down and broke it down and talked 443 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.920 to our kids about it, it kind of put things in perspective that this 444 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:06.119 is a game that things may not always go your way and we have to 445 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.480 always do our best to try to make things go our way. And once 446 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.200 we kind of saw that and change our mindset, it was easy for us 447 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.839 to get going. And after that, the whole conversation was the four A 448 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.880 gold ball only belongs to us. So we didn't even celebrate any of the 449 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.279 wins leading into the championship game. We didn't even talk about it. All 450 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.119 we did was show up at the mindset that that four state championship was going 451 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.279 to be ours no matter what. Well, you certainly look by the score. 452 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.279 You look, I think you were mad at that first round of the 453 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.519 four A game. If you're a seventy two to fourteen, it's like, 454 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.839 Okay, that's a state tournament game. That's not you know, some regular 455 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.519 season game against a team that's not very good. I mean, how did 456 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.720 you guys come out in that game? Well, Peoria had made an upset 457 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.599 the week before, so Pure was actually like the twenty four seed and then 458 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.759 they had snuck into the sixteen seed. And you know, like I said, 459 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:00.599 it is a little bit of the game of the hats and have not 460 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:07.519 and we have that have And we came out focused and playing great defense. 461 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:14.759 The second game against East Mark, they were a really good team, really 462 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.519 strong, really well coached team. They gave us some fits until we really 463 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.400 got going in the second half. And and our our our kind of mo 464 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.680 o, like what we hang our hat on is our team defense and uh, 465 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.720 and that's where we've sunk swung games at times and uh. And then 466 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.359 the STEMI final game against Australia Foothills, we just had a great pregame, 467 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:43.440 a great discussion beforehand, and my kids came out ready to roll against Australia 468 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.240 team that had done some really good things. They had. They had they 469 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.960 had I forget how many wins they had on the seat, and they had 470 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.839 something like twenty nine wins and like three or four losses, and they had 471 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.720 they had come down the week before and beat Sowarro on their home court, 472 00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.720 so they were kind of motivated. And we kind of punched them in the 473 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.039 face early and never even gave them hope and and they kind of stopped playing 474 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:08.159 by midway through the second quarter. So, uh so we just had that. 475 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.320 All the credit goes to my kids. My kids are incredible the way 476 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.679 they're Uh, they lock in, they focused, they buy in, they 477 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.280 believe, they work their rear end off and when they do that, they 478 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.440 execute. And in the championship game, if you look at the first half, 479 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.880 we were kind of doing the same thing. We were kind of rolling. 480 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.679 And then two things happened right before halftime. Uh one of my best 481 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.639 players, Hannah Williams, suffered a knee injury. She went down hard and 482 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.280 that changed the game. And then we also got in foul trouble right before 483 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.840 the half ended. So so that second half we were kind of playing patchwork, 484 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.719 so that that we we we didn't we weren't ourselves that second half in 485 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.280 the championship game. We were having to navigate this a little bit, being 486 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.239 a little short handed in foul trouble and uh. And then also their kids, 487 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:05.079 their kids who some times the moment gets big for them and it's tough 488 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.920 to score sometimes when you feel the pressure. But to their credit, they 489 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.840 were tough enough to hold on and win that game by ten. Yeah. 490 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.800 Okay, one quick question, quick answer. So I don't know if you 491 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:19.039 heard the Bibi on the show first hour, he takes his teams who used 492 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.800 to take his teams to California, play with some of the tough teams, 493 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.840 maybe get beat or whatever, but it hardened him or the team for the 494 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.519 playoffs in the Arizona Leagues. You from believing that too, apparently playing hard 495 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:37.280 and then coming back and maybe take your lumps. Absolutely, you know, 496 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.320 I got into this crustier game a little bit older, so I'm not chasing 497 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.679 wins, and I hate when we win by twenty thirty forty points. I 498 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.480 mean, I like them at times, especially when they're against good teams, 499 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.880 but we want challenges, so we're not afraid to lose my kids. My 500 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.320 kids kind of buy into that too, where they want to be chance, 501 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.039 they want to play tough teams and they have that mind at So like this 502 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.840 summer we played Sierra Kenyon, who's like the number two or three team in 503 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:09.480 the country right now, I believe. Uh. And then uh this uh, 504 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:15.920 this past Christmas, we went to California and two of the four teams 505 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:22.400 that we faced in that Christmas tournament ended up in the CIA finals. Are 506 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.320 like, California is a little different, so they have different levels, but 507 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.639 they all ended up high level playoffs in California, and you know, you 508 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.400 know, we went too and two when we went there, So we're, 509 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.639 uh, we're not we're not afraid to face tougher competition and challenge ourselves, 510 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.400 but we're also capable of winning some of those games. So it's fun. 511 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:45.760 It's fun with these kids to be able to accomplish that. And kids like 512 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.880 Tealia Henderson and Hanny Williams and Alison Even and then we had to transfer Sidney 513 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.760 Anderson, who came in Who's Who's Who's got some offers for Division one schools 514 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.480 and she's done a great job. And Jordan Watts, if you see her. 515 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.760 She she's a lifetout shooter. So we're a talented group and we have 516 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.119 some freshmen and jac Nelson and arikoleash who who are going to keep our future 517 00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:14.360 bright? I hope and keep this rolling. Thank you, Joseph, appreciate 518 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.199 your time. Congrats, thank you, teach you guys, thanks for having 519 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:22.119 me. Thank you. That's a lot of fun, very insightful. That's 520 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.320 teams that aren't afraid to take their lumps, right and and and and you 521 00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.880 know, and they build program. They don't have a team. This is 522 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.360 a program. I hate to use this reference because I covered the guy November 523 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.400 December. You take your lumps, maybe maybe you win some tournaments, loot, 524 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.360 and then you find out who you are in March exactly. Sometimes they 525 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.360 weren't the same team. They were not, but it's like like Tommy, 526 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.199 at some point, those wins have to mean remember when that scheduled, the 527 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.920 Arizona schedule came together. We're going, what are you doing right? Right? 528 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.119 Right right? But in the end you're gonna think, Okay, that's 529 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.320 gonna get that's gonna what are you doing? What it did? It maybe 530 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.880 kind of fall Falseley gave him expectations that were not capable of doing it so 531 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:08.119 well, if Duke shows up on the court against them in the NCAA tournament 532 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.679 or Alabama or anybody, hey we got that. We know, yeah, 533 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.760 we know what we can do. All right, let's take our last record 534 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:16.239 to come back. We'll take your calls. We'd love to have him five 535 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.360 to two zero. You're an Arizona men's basketball fan. You know it's been 536 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.320 successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludolsen era. 537 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.760 In my new book, Lessons from Loot, it was a labor of 538 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.199 love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to 539 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:35.760 give insight to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, 540 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.519 and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's 541 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.440 beloved coach. 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Yeah, congratulations to those guys again talking 583 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.400 about how the game has changed, right right. Look, girls basketball, 584 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.199 high school bab was just getting started when I was a CUB reporter our late 585 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.280 seventies, you know, covering hig school basketball, and they, you know, 586 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.480 God bless them, they were trying to play. But I mean, 587 00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:06.000 you know, these girls that could barely dribble it, certainly couldn't shoot you. 588 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:07.840 No games were you know, fifteen to ten and things like that. 589 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.760 To see how the game has evolved to the point of having a Kaitlin Clark, 590 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:16.559 you know, doing what she's doing is is tremendous to see that that 591 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.000 has happened in our lifetime. Well and imagine how far it's going to go 592 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.960 from here, Oh yeah, because it's probably still in its you know, 593 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.679 early stage. Again she gets to the end WNBA, that's gonna be good 594 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.000 for everybody in the w NBA sure to you know, to have that kind 595 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:34.519 of attention and you know if they're if there are players out there in the 596 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:39.559 WNBA, we are going to be a little resentful of Kaitlin Clark. All 597 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.719 you have to do. And this is almost a crazy comparison, but when 598 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.320 you think of what Tiger Woods did for the game of golf right and the 599 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.079 money that they're playing for now, the Rory McElroy guys are playing for now 600 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.360 because of Tiger Woods right now, women's basketball has been building towards this with 601 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.639 some of the players that I mentioned Kate and Clark is another brick on that 602 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.239 I'm sure, foundation sure, I don't think that's that's going to create interest. 603 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.679 To stretch what you just said, It's it's true, you know, 604 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.280 she's having that much of an impact. She is the women's version of Steph 605 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.000 Curry for you know, you know, State Farm and the other endorsement companies 606 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.039 that she's endorsing are going to have Women's w n b A on their radar, 607 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.840 but maybe they didn't before, right, And and that's going to again 608 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.559 create more and more opportunities that they go along and then these then these ladies 609 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.280 start making, you know, the kind of money that they're not gonna ever 610 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.119 make the kind of money that the NBA got there. You know, they're 611 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.159 not making fifty million dollars a year, but you know they're going to be 612 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.000 making you know, it could be have a chance to make some very healthy 613 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.400 money and make a really good living, a life changing living for themselves. 614 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.480 Right, No, I get it, I get it. Hey, we 615 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:51.400 got time, we got ten minutes. If we want to give us a 616 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.800 quick call, please do. We'd appreciate it. Five to two oho for 617 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.880 one sixty not to hear from everybody or anybody. Yep. So I was 618 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.320 I was mentioning that we need to get John Wilner on the show Packbub hotline. 619 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.920 He put out a column today on George Klafkoff and his you know, 620 00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:12.719 his term and the pack weelve ended last week. Yeah, and you know, 621 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.239 no comment, no nothing, he was just gone, yeah, okay. 622 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.320 And then you know, John just basically, you know, ran down. 623 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.079 Just you know, here's a guy who you know, everybody thought he 624 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:24.559 was the guy. Remember when he got hired right now, people thought, 625 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.559 you know, they were impressed and stuff, and now he just never grasped, 626 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.480 you know, what he needed to do. A Pack twelve fell apart. 627 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.960 Let me ask you a question, and if we do get him and 628 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.599 ask him the question. Okay, So how much how much fault is the 629 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:44.239 PAC twelve now PAC twelve as a group, the powerful group that it was 630 00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.039 Packed ten to PAC twelve? Uh at fault? Uh? They had two 631 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:53.119 strikes, two strikes yeah, uh with the with the main GUYOT Larry Scott, 632 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:58.280 and then they came in with the savior of supposed savior that was not 633 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:02.039 that right. So those two dudes didn't do it right and poop on them. 634 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.719 Not the right guy. But a lot of it has to do with 635 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.800 the people who hired the guy, right exactly. And that and that's kind 636 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:14.840 of the point of Willner's of Willner's column is that yes, the you know, 637 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.159 the universities themselves have a lot of blame on their hands. But he 638 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.079 said, according to sources, that that that he's got that claff Cooff kinds 639 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.000 of thinks none of this was his fault. He said, how can you 640 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.400 how how can you, as the commissioner of the PAC twelve, who watched 641 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.840 one hundred year old league crumble on your watch, how can you think this 642 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.400 you you've got you You're not to blame for any of the sins of the 643 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.519 father. The father doesn't always the sins. I'll read straight from John's calming, 644 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.079 says In other words, claff cop It says. Sources said claff Coop 645 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:51.519 blames the collapse entirely on the president's poor leadership, the difficult circumstances he inherited, 646 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.599 and the school's refusal to accept the deal place before him. In other 647 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:59.000 words, Claffcoff believes he did his job. If the schools weren't satisfied with 648 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.880 Apple's offered for a few mean only deal that distributed twenty five million dollars annually, 649 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.719 the potential for our subscription targets are reached, well then that's their problem. 650 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.920 Not yes, so if he really believed I did what I was supposed 651 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.719 to do yet to still fell apart, He's even for more. I said, 652 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.519 you couldn't be more wrong, right, Well, there's two guys that 653 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.800 really kind of put this thing in the ground. Learry Scott of course the 654 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.559 most visible guy. Yeah, the most guy to blame. And I'm sure 655 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.360 no one's ever spoken to him or did a story on him since he's left, 656 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.079 right, because well to track him down and say, how much do 657 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.320 you think that you were involved in all this? In the demise? The 658 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.880 thirty million or what was that money that they talked, the cable bill or 659 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:52.800 whatever it was fifty million? What what? And then here the kids, 660 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.079 the pac twelve kids, the teams are suffering to eat. Yeah, you 661 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.840 know, it was like all of our could have another you know, they 662 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.440 look at the situation everyone's in with the highest paid commissioner and all that other 663 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.039 in the every tower or the Golden Tower, whatever tower. It's the nice 664 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.679 tower spending more than you needed to. The crumble tower is what it is 665 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:15.119 now. Yeah, no, I you know again, I you know, 666 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.159 I try not to let my mind go to what's happened, but when I 667 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.039 do, I'm really bummed about this. I really am. I'm really bummed 668 00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:29.480 about how turned out look in the end with Arizona in the Big twelve. 669 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.639 Is that a better place for them in terms of winning championships and stuff like 670 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.719 that on a national level, Yes, it is. They're not you know, 671 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:44.760 they're not having to compete where against teams where they have just inherent disadvantages 672 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.559 like USC and US play. So yes, in the end, you know, 673 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.679 Arizona could be in the in the College Football playoff next year, you 674 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.480 know, and in the Pac twelve you just didn't. You don't think that, 675 00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.599 right, So yes in that regard. But you know, I'm sixty 676 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.639 five years old almost, you know, I mean in my mid sixties, 677 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.760 and I grew up with this league. Sure I was so excited when we 678 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.320 got in it. Sure, right, I was so excited when we got 679 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.760 in it. All the Pac twelve or Pack ten, Pack ten and Pac 680 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:22.280 twelve sports baseball, basketball and football, even softball and all the sports and 681 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.800 thinking we're part of something as an area Arizona fans, part of something really 682 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:35.159 big. And while you're always felt like that, yes, over the years, 683 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.559 you know, as you know, the East Coast bias and stuff, 684 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.800 you know, it was it would wear on you. But in the end, 685 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.039 we still love being a part of something like the PAC twelve and the 686 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:51.480 fact that it's just gone. It's just I get it. You know, 687 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.519 you grew up in it. I didn't. I didn't. So I just 688 00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:00.280 know what I've been through thirty five years of it. Sad because you're many 689 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.239 great teams to see you were never a part of it as a fan, 690 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.679 No, no, no, I was. I was part of it as 691 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.480 a fan growing up. You know, Yes, there was that period of 692 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.320 time I was. I was a writer, you know, covering sports and 693 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.480 sort of being you know, very uh, you know, even handed and 694 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.639 and and I can't even think of the right word for it, but you 695 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.039 know, I just I didn't have a rooting interest. But outside of that, 696 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.639 that was a five year period. Outside of that, in my life, 697 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.199 I've been a big fan of the of the of the of the of 698 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.760 the conference. You know, I rushed the court when when Arizona beat beat 699 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:37.519 UCLA in nineteen seventy in nineteen seventy nine, you know, watching Arizona beat 700 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.599 number one USC in nineteen eighty eighty, in nineteen eighty one, who talked 701 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.760 about you know, it's a thing, you know that you're bringing this up. 702 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.239 I texted somebody I won't say who Texas. But I want to get 703 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.519 maybe Joe Nell's on here, who was who got you were? He was 704 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:52.360 there? He was one of the original ones, right, yeah, you 705 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:53.760 know, and I think I think of those times, you know, the 706 00:49:53.800 --> 00:50:00.559 first time Arizona beat UCLA in in Larry Smith's first year in nineteen eight you 707 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:01.440 know, U c LA comes in, here's number two in the CME. 708 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:05.559 We're playing the number two team in the country. How cool is that? 709 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.679 Right? Right? And we're and we're in the conference with that, right, 710 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.440 you know? When we had two years earlier it was by U and 711 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.159 Wyoming in New Mexico and Utah. I was just gonna say that that feeling 712 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.840 of beating New Mexico wasn't the same. It wasn't the same as when when 713 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.119 when Arizona beat U c l A, you know, in that nineteen eighty 714 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.679 season and then you think you've been arrived kind of yeah, yeah, you 715 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:29.679 know, And so it was kind of like it was great being a part 716 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.360 of that. And then to see that it after this year, poof, 717 00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:38.199 it's gone. It's just all gone. And to me, it's really gonna 718 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:42.800 hit when we finished this packed tournament, right, you know, there's still 719 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.239 baseball. Sure, sure, sure, sure, But the Pac twelve Tournament 720 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:51.199 what it became in Vegas sort of a you know, it's like this is 721 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.199 it? Sure? This is I get it. It's and it's a it's 722 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.159 a fire sale now. Yeah, it should be a fun fire sale this 723 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.760 weekend. Next week, we're gonna we're gonna go over there. We're gonna 724 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.440 have a great time. I'm gonna try not to do anything stupid with my 725 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.599 life. My family is gonna be there. They won't allow you to be 726 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.480 stupid. Jay. Where's Jay? I think I think purposely because my wife, 727 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.519 she's come to this, you know, pretty much the last several years. 728 00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:20.559 She normally comes in like Thursday. You guys, she's coming in on 729 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.599 you wan't want to check your butt. I think she might have put a 730 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:29.360 GPS staple one. She's coming in on Wednesday. Yeah, I've only got 731 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.639 I only got one night there before she gets there, which is probably a 732 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.280 good thing. Yeah. Will you be working? Yeah, and I will 733 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.719 be working. Those first two days are grind. Actually three days tuesdays also 734 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:43.440 grind. But so yeah, I you know what, I don't have time 735 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:49.199 to get in trouble when I work this day. Okay, Okay, well, 736 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.199 thanks you. It was good show today, Mike Bibby. You'll put 737 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:53.760 it on the you'll put it on the podcast. What the podcast will be 738 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:59.000 up Look for us over the iHeart website or on the iHeart app, search 739 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.960 Eye on the Ball, also searching the Ball on Spotify, search Eying the 740 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.039 Ball on Apple Podcasts. I'm actually gonna stay here at the station and get 741 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.599 that thing posted so it'll be up within the Okay, we have to get 742 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.920 Yeah, Roadrunners Happy Hour coming up right after we're off the air, but 743 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.000 the podcast will be up up right away, and you can follow us, 744 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:24.239 please follow, you know, subscribe to those those up on all of those 745 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.679 venues. So if you listening to us right now, do us a favor 746 00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.599 and maybe we'll do you a favor if you follow on Facebook or Twitter, 747 00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.039 send some maybe requests that you'd like for us to interview right and if we 748 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.880 can pull it off, we'll try. Don't go crazy with it, but 749 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.079 you know, two Sun connections and we'll try to get them on. Yeah, 750 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:46.719 we're gonna be around a lot of basketball people at the packcuff Turn and 751 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.760 we'll get to that week. You know, we'll get we'll get reporters and 752 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.159 and broadcasters and maybe some coaches and players and stuff like that, and start 753 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:58.360 lining some stuff up and you know, get some big reaction to the Packpuff 754 00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:05.400 season being you know, the the con the Sinaros. Yeah, okay, 755 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.360 cool, Malterierrie. Now maybe we can get mister Walton. We've had him 756 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.760 on before. Yep, we got two questions in fifteen minutes and he'll be 757 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.880 back. I already got so we said that Walton was doing the two Arizona 758 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:22.960 games this week. Already got a big no. He'll be fun on a 759 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.639 text message. You haven't heard him in the Okay, that'll be fun. 760 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.880 All right, Okay, thanks for being here today. We'll be back tomorrow 761 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.559 with more great guests, and uh be sure to come back and we'll uh 762 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.119 we'll break everything down for yourself and see you tomorrow