Steve Rivera and Jakin Salez. They have their eye on the ball on two
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arm. Hey, welcome back to Ari in the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakens. Got a guy Jason with
us. Got fourteen minutes and some breaking news. Arizona linebacker Justin Flow as
the name GDP bud kis Award watch list whoa guys, I barely barely played.
Mm hm, he's gonna be the key. They must have seen him
in the press conference without Yeah, did you see that he missed? He
missed as he was the one of the guys himself that he missed. If
you watch, you'll see it on Twitter. Is his thing. Yesterday with
the guys, he was a little kind of how would you say, I
mean, I don't know, different different. You know, you have to
go watch that kinnect the guy. We saw it spring when he came in
and kind of like, you know, look, you know, and I
said, this is kind of kind of strange, but he was more strange
yesterday. Yeah, so yeah, listen to watch it. I'll have to
go justin spears, but heat does a Stanford seaming. No, it's just
an alter egos, alter ego, just you know how he kind of sees
like like Ricky b Ricky or what kind of in the third person is yeah,
yeah, go back there, he'll see it. Okay, I gotta
go see it, all right, all right. Phil Micholson, professional golfer
that more than one billion dollars on football, baseball, and basketball over the
past three decades, and even allegedly attempted to bet a place a four hundred
thousand wager on Team USA in the twenty twelve Ryder Cup. Okay, we
got to talk about this for a second. A billion dollars now again,
he's got the money. But now, but somewhere in there, I think
it said didn't we say that? It said he he may have lost as
much as one hundred billion of the billion betting a billion, he lost one
hundred million dollars. He was like one hundred million dollars on the wrong side,
which is which is an incredible number. And and I mean, if
it's money and he gets to do whatever he wants and he's still very wealthy,
right, but that, wow, is he or isn't he Well,
it's his money. You know. The thing is, you know this guy
that's that's writing the book is the guy that he did is is gambling with
ended up going to prison over a an insider trading deal that Michelson was a
partnering. Well, this guy went to prison over that. So when I
was writing this book and you know, there's gonna be, there's gonna people.
First of all, Michelson hasn't commented about this, at least from what
I've said anybody, and he might not butt you know, he pissed off
a guy that goes to prison. He knows stuff about you. He's gonna
write stuff. Now, this is incredible stuff. I'm looking at the I'm
looking at the note at at the the by the numbers thing. According to
this is said, he bet so an even money bet is the minus one
ten bet. Right, we bet that all the time minus You've got a
bet one hundred ten dollars to win one hundred dollars, okay, one hundred,
one thousand, one hundred and fifteen times he bet one hundred and ten
thousand dollars to win one hundred thousand dollars. How many times you do that
one thousand, one hundred and fifteen times, that's one hundred million. So
and then on eight hundred and fifty eight times he bet two to twenty to
win two hundred, which is basically doubled the bet, but still basically even
went bet. It said, the sum of those nineteen hundred and seventy three
wagers, you know, the one tens and the two twenties, was three
hundred and eleven million dollars. On those bets in twenty eleven alone, he
made thirty three thousand, one hundred and fifty four bets, which is an
average of nearly nine bets per day. In one day in June. On
June twenty second, twenty eleven, apparently this guy's got all these records,
he made forty three bets on Major League baseball games and lost one hundred and
forty three five hundred that day. It's either he's not really or whatever.
Said. He made a staggering seven thousand and sixty five wagers on football,
basketball, and baseball. That was during this time that he was betting with
this guy. So I'm crazy, crazy, crazy numbers now for us,
for you, well, you don't have a wife, so for me,
my wife ever gives me crap about putting, you know, twenty bucks on
new games. Un I'm not Phil Mickelson. I mean, what do you
you know, what are you yelling me? Yelling at me about right,
I'm gonna use that, you know, I fully intend to use that.
There are some crazy numbers, and you know what, that's a problem.
That's not that's not I've got the money to do this. That's a gambling
problem. Don't you think if all this is true? Yeah? Yeah,
again, he's got the money. I don't know again does he? I
mean, you know, people say, well that now I see why he
took the live deal, right, and it's saying all this stuff and ripping
the PGA tour because he had to get out of all this uh all this
dead or whatever, who knows, but anyway makes people see him a little
differently though. For sure said he wanted about four hundred thousand dollars on a
Ryder cup that he was in and had and the guys that we're going better
with this guy. The guy said, I'm not taking that, and they
he would have lost because they lost that, right, they lost that Ryder
cup. So anyways, all right, opening nice schedule for the twenty twenty
three twenty four NBS season opener is going to be on October twenty fourth.
The team's playing in the open. It will be the loss and just Lakers
versus the Denver Nuggets, so Western Conference Finals rematch and the Phoenix Suns versus
the Golden Cil Warriors. All right, pretty good game, Cooper October four.
Yeah, Steve, they burning at the football scene started him. Yeah,
ready for them already. The overlap and baseball will still be going on.
Yeah, so I'll be all three sports will be going on at the
same time. That's that's nuts that UNDI, what are you gonna do?
Uh? The Colts are starting their fourth overall pick, a quarterback Anthony Richardson
over a Gardner Minshew, for their Week one preseason opener overage to the Bills
on Saturday. Well, you draft a guy in the first round, you're
expect him to play, right, m Yeah, you do them, So
he's gonna be He's gonna be interesting to see because there are people said that
he had hadn't played enough to prove that he should have been a first round
pick. Yeah, but from where I've heard in camp, he's been looking
really good. So, well, he's got a rocket arm. But yeah,
we all know, we've talked about that a million times in year.
What's the point of having a rocket over you can't hit your target? I'm
pretty true, all right. Some more NFL news. The number two overall
picks J Stroud makes his NFL preseason debut today against the Patriots. So the
game actually just started like right now, So see how he does. And
I forgot that. I forgot that quarterbacks went one and two. Yeah,
and Anthony Richardson was what pick four, the number four, so one,
two and four, yep, I don't remember that in the draft. Who's
three? I think it was like a defensive yeah, I think probably defensive
linemans. Yeah, yep. Okay. The ESPN is nearing a deal to
add X Warrior GM. Bob Myers to NBA coverage said that again, ESPN
is nearing a deal to add X Warriors GM Warriors. Yeah, Bob Myers
to cover NBA. Oh really to be one of those yeah experts, that
makes sense. It's funny though. It's funny, Jay, it's funny.
It's not the right word. But I don't know if I've I've been gone
through this, but uh, and I maybe you have. He's been let
a lot of people go for a lot of money they're paying them. Now
they're bringing up people who I don't know how much we're paying them, but
they let them go for a reason. Now they're bringing back some people a
different right, different level of people, different levels, Steve, it's the
old thing, man, We're gonna get rid of you because you make too
much money, so we can bring in this guy and don't know you no,
no, I know, I get it. And they they lost a
lot of good talent but they didn't care. But they're bringing back people who
kind of feel the roles. But you know what the thing is, guys
like you, me, Jason. The fact that they got rid of Mark
Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy on the NBA games is gonna isn't gonna stop us
from watching it, of course, of course. And they know that,
of course not, because the product, the product is, you know,
is what's on the port right right right, And people say, well,
these guys aren't as good as these guys, but you're still here to watch,
right. Well, it's kinda like Bill Wolman. It's like Bill woman.
Oh, I don't like what guess what, You're still gonna watch.
You are gonna watch And people say, oh, I turn it off whenever
he's on you liar, No, no, they some dude, but he
might turn the ball from down some but they still watch, They still watch.
You're absolutely right, absolutely right? All right? Uh, the NFL
plus streaming out is going to be offering the ability to watch NFL Network and
nf A red zone, so they're adding red zone, red zone to that.
But you can't watch. You still can't watch games because those are gonna
be on on Sunday Sunday Ticket, which is gonna be on YouTube TV,
which is very expensive. How much is it like three four hundred, four
hundred and fifty bucks for the season, And unfortunately for me, and you
know, I'll claim ignorance on this, when I was gravy training off my
daughter because they had a student a student rate and you could only stream it,
but you know it was it was Sunday ticket, NFL Sunday ticket,
so we got to call it Sunday ticket on the phone right now, you
explaining to do all right? All right, that's all they're breaking his eye
for today. Okay, I can't after I keep going back to this thing
with film Michals and I mean, I just find it again. None of
my business, right, none of my business, the dude, but this
is amazing well and and the thing is most of this betting was done before
it was legal to bet here, wasn't it. No? Yeah, no,
because he's been doing it all this time, Because we're talking about talking
about according to the story, he met this guy in two thousand and six,
hooked up with him in two thousand and eight, and that's when he
started betting this kind of money. Yeah, well it's probably you know,
go to got go between. You know, one of the things I haven't
seen in the in the news, and I've been trying to find it,
and maybe I'm just not good at it. Uh. The the Maui Classic
and the building, Well did the building burn And that's why I'm trying to
find out because that's that's that is one of the worst things you could you've
ever seen. Yeah, I mean a whole the whole city burned down,
pretty much. It's yeah, I'm sure you have you been there. I've
been I've been there. I went to five Maui Classics, and I'm wondering
is this the thing gonna stand, so gonna be able to go it looked
back well, early on I did see a tweet from the Maui classic tweeter
what do they say? That just said we're keeping an eye on what's pointing
on here, But it didn't say how long ago? A couple of days
ago. Okay, so maybe we'll find that. I'm sure they have a
because because that's huge for for that community. Yeah, but I've got the
pictures of that devastating. How the hell does that happen? Devastating in this
time with the technology, the the the equipment, sure that everything that that
that's available water around you know, you know, to hear the people were
jumping into the ocean to get away from the fin and just man, I
you know, you just go, hi, you know, how does this
happen in this day and age? Right? And it's just a small community,
fantastic community obviously, huh. And I'm trying to figure out or find
it. Where are you looking it up? Yeah, I'm trying to I'm
not I'm not I'm not finding anything. But uh, oh god, it's
just I'm I'm I'm I'm sitting here a stoundard at the pictures that that that
that I see, Like you know, like when the when you know the
Catlana Mountains burned down, you know, you thought you can't stop this,
how do you stop this? Well, and then you see it, Well
you've been here all your life and you see I can't believe this is happening.
Yeah, it's just oh man, I'm just I'm just gonna get into
the pictures. Mick Fleetwood's restaurant burned down. I mean a lot of stuff
burned down. But man, there's a there's a helicopter shot at the whole
the whole city isn't smoke. It's just crazy that that this, that this
could happen. I it's very sad. I haven't heard anything about, uh,
if there's a you know, if there's some some deaths related to this
or not. I mean I can't imagine that there aren't. When you think
of the destruction, thirty six people have done, thirty six sixty six years
of yesterday and thirty six totals. Now yeah, just uh not that I
don't see anything that's saying whether or not. And you know what, that's
the last thing you're gonna worry about as well. Can we still have our
basketball tournament. You know, you got you got so many lives that are
are wrecked by this. Yeah, I went. I went there a lot
of years ago with a bunch of guys to go play golf for a week.
And uh and we went over to Kappeloua. But we went, you
know, went to dinner and the bars and stuff like that. In the
hind and yeah, no, I've been to five I've been to five Milton
classes. It's just a gym. It's just i haven't been there a long
time, so I'm sure they refurbished it, but it was just a gym.
Here. It is the Civic Center. Somebody somebody behind the Civic Center,
the Lion. It was not destroyed, but Front Street Lahine has gone,
so apparently that did not and not this is tweeted by somebody from a
call. Okay, got a minute, so take it real quick. Higher
on the aar and on the ball. Well, I hate to like,
you know now, in hindsight, it's such because the Pac twelve, you
know, it is what it is. And I don't really called to elaborate
on that a little bit because I'm so heartbroken from it. But Jay,
it was one of the best tricks to get Sunday ticket for free. Since
they didn't carry the pac Twall Matt network. I was call the retention department
every day year. The TV would never pick up the Pactwall network, and
I would swindle. You know the thing that the thing that fed me really
killed me at the end. And I hate it because of the Larry Scott
and all that. I just yeah, and I'll get Sunday ticket for free
because that's that's the way I would leverage. Okay, year, and I
know it this is old news and everything, but bro, I'm heartbroken from
a people to My childhood is gone and it's going forward. Yes, the
Texas Schools is natural, but this sucks. Man. Yeah, it's hey
Mike. We gotta go. Thank We gotta go, thank you. We're
to break it. We gotta get coming up. So call again later because
we want to talk about this some more. Appreciate it. Wait, thanks,
man, Yeah, we gotta go get ahold of Pete. Right,
Yeah, We're gonna get Pete Williams and we'll talk get his get his take
on all of this. So it's been crazy stuff. So we'll be right
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Hey, welcome back to on the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifteen times
Steve Riverai's Jacob's Austin. We're waiting for Pete and there he is probably no,
Pete's a shoe, Yes, sir, Pete. How you doing.
I'm good you we're doing fine. Thank you. I'm sure you're interestedly waiting
to come down to Tucson in a couple of weeks and came wait and we
have a great at the time as you as you go home. Yeah,
yeah, you're one of the highlights. Hey, before we get to all
that, let's talk about something you were part of for a number of years,
a couple of years at least, the PAC twelve Pack ten at the
time. What are your thoughts about disbanding? Uh, even though it's really
uh, it's really better. Sweet. You know, I've been a fan
of a Pack eight ever since nineteen seventy one, and honestly, by the
time I was ten, I kid you not. By the time I was
ten, I can name every starter on all the teams in the conference.
That's how much I was in. And then I became aware of the u
of it. You know what they joined Joe Nels or Russell Russell H Brown,
Russell Brown, Brain, f Russell Brown. I'm delebrated. They're afraid
of Fox. You know. They came on my racar once they joined.
So it's just it's starting in the sense of a composite with great hears.
They're just imploded like this when there was no reason for it. You know,
if the proper leaders, what's their business? Yeah, hey, your
your phone is breaking up. Just a Scotia of pizza if you can.
I know you're standing in a bad place and what but you know, thinking
back to that, you know you you know you so you were aware of
all this when Arizona and as you joined the conference and then you became a
part of it. You know how much of what you knew about the you
had to do with the fact that you wanted to play in the league and
you know, went to Arizona and all that stuff. Well, you know,
I hope to think to break up, am I coming to clearly?
Yeah, it's kind of choppy. I'm trying to move rooms and see it
is that of my uh a little a lot of strong of the room.
Let's see, it's different. You know, it's me and not you guys.
Yeah, you never know what I was going to say. I can
empathize with like a lot of these these players and non revenue sports as far
as you know, their parents because they choose schools because of the access of
their parents being able to see them play. And for me, what was
really important for me was not only playing in the major conference, but being
able to come home the Southern cow where you know, it was guaranteed my
folks and family and friends will be able to see me play twice a year,
and then the access of getting the two side was so that played a
big deal in is well. So I have a lot of empathy for these
people, particularly, you know, because usc Ust later one is gonna be
traveling all the way to the East coast and we may have our same things
going out to Central Florida or whatever. So it's a tough deal all around.
Well, it impacts you a little bit because you're a fan. You
go to the games in La in that area, southern California and in Vegas,
and so oh man, it didn't It didn't passed me big time.
I'm pissed off about that. Man's true. But uh, and I'm already
plotting. Okay, once this moved to the big twelve starts in twenty five,
you know what role games am I going to go through TCU as a
musk because that was my first recruiting ship actually, and one of my best
friends, you know, he's alumni of TCUs and TCU as a musk.
But it's not the same as going to UCLA, u SC or you know
even as U well SU always be right or the Bay Area, you know,
uh, going to see the fellas and and all that right, I'm
I'm I'm guessing that I'm guessing up in ten p You're not a very welcome
guy over there either you were either you, either you or Eddie smith Hey.
But you know what, I love it though, you know, I
still you know what, I still get treated with respect there. But it's
all good nature stuff. The little little uh, the little burger joined across
me as us campus. How I'm having a break fees all of a sudden,
man, your aging aging, Pete, your age. That could be
honest, that could be honest because we're contagious. Yeah, I love that
place. In the beginning. You know, it was a little hot down
in a minute, but it ain't treated with great respect and we just have
a little good nature bands are going on back and forth. Did you were
your u a stuff there? Of course, I'm I'm bewhere man. So
you were talking about starting to talking about a little bit. But you know,
regardless of you know, we're moved on right the conferences. You know,
we're out of the conference. The Pact twelve is gone, so now
you got a big twelve basketball conference that adds Arizona adds uh. You know
you talk Colorado on the SHU. But really the big addition is Arizona to
a conference that's already widely considered the best in the country. How much fun
are you gonna have with that? You know what? It is going to
be an amazing conference. You know, I was just sitting back and I
was thinking, you know, as far as you have a in the Pac
twelve, what we've led the conference in attendance for I believe thirty eighth straight
years. Now, well that's going to change now because everybody attends game out
there in that conference. So it's gonna be some fantastic basketball, and those
road games are going to be something else. So I know you weren't part
of a team here that won the Pac twelve Pac ten titles at the time,
but you were, you know, the year before you had a chance.
But how do you and you weren't around when they did win it,
I think in eighty six, eighty five, eighty six, How do you
think if Arizona pulls off a championship in the Big twelve, how do you
think will feel us different and we will feel the same kind of taking over
the conference? Well, no, well it's never going to be a takeover
as long as you got Kansas in there, and in much respect to Baylor,
it's just so strong. But Arizona is gonna be I I was looking
looking at something earlier day. I think on Twitter that Michael Luke and share
together as far as peers of the program, and I think they did a
great job. Kansas, they deserve to be headed as what everybody else,
But Arizona is not far behind. Man, We're really not. So we're
just as capable of winning a title that league as anyone. And I love
what you know Tommy's done with this year's team as far as recruiting, and
it's only going to get better. So I'm not going to be shocked.
A matter of fact, I'm I'm expecting it. You know. That's how
That's how great I think our program is. Yeah, I mean when you
think about it too, because we mentioned this the other day. You know,
in this depending on how the scheduling falls in the first season, you
know, we Arizona could have Duke and Kansas you know at home, you
know, in the same season. I mean, you want to talk about
something that the uh, the Arizona fans have been waiting for for a really
long time. Buckle up because it's going to be an incredible ride, absolutely,
and I can't wait to see where are they going to do? Are
they're going to separate the conferences between divisions and you know who's in our division
and you know if we played them twice another division once. I can't wait
for all that stuff to play out. Makes you want to be back on
the team, well, it makes you got to be back on the team
regardless of where we was at. What with the jack the leg of mine,
we can get about that. Well you ask, yeah, well,
how how how are things going with that, Pete, because we do want
to know. Well, you know, I'm pretty much in the same situation.
You know, my bones are fine. I'm just I'm just having nervous
issues and those don't seem to want to go away, and there's going to
be generated their own pace if they decide to. So I'm going to off
work order. I'm doing fine, you know, physically fit with the steps
of the leg. But I'm doing fine. It's been a while, it's
been a twenty months, it's been a year. It's been a year in
about three months. Oh wow, man, that's to go. But I
know I still think I still think you can dunk on either one of us,
so you don't have to think it's done. It would be a straight
vertical. I'm not taking off of one leg anymore. It would be a
straight vertical. Though. Pete with with what's happened though, and I mean,
I'm presuming that you're an overall sports fan. You know, yes,
you love the basketball, but you probably you know, you do football and
all that. Are you? What do you think of everything that's happening with
with college athletics and the way it's I mean, I think we thought there
was gonna be some consolidation down the road, but it happened really fast.
Everything that's just going on, realignment, nil, transfer portal, all that
stuff. I know we've had nil and transfer portal conversations before, but now
you throw this in and it's another big thing that's happened. I mean,
is it is it getting distasteful to you or you're just rolling with it?
How are you taking it? Oh? Absolutely absolutely distasteful? But hey,
what it is? I wish and I know if I heard some other people
talk about this, you know, supports meat or whatever and this is off
with driven TV, driven money or whatever. You know, unfortunately everybody else,
all the other programs, basketball and then not governy programs, we got
to fall into the same umbrellas over that. Why don't they just make independent
on all the football teams and let everybody else stay in remaining conferences or whatever
may sound too simple, whatever, I don't know. I've just think it's
unfair where all these other fools have to abandon traditional conferences, the rivalries,
the goal under the umbrella of all this TV and football money. It's ridiculous
to me, right right, And I think that part of you is because
you're older. You know, we're both are all older, and we're used
to the tradition, and the young kids today are just saying, no,
let's move on and get the money and go right right, Yeah, yeah,
if we want to, Yeah, okay. And you'll be here in
a couple of weeks for the lud Olson Cabmen going after a New York titles.
Two weeks from today, Oh that's right, two weeks from today.
You'll be back in town ringing the show. Are you guys already talking smack
to each other? No, not yet, but you know, I'm gonna
fly in the Phoenix and I'm at to wait around because I'm picking up Eddie
Smith, Joe Turner and Craig McMillan and Phoenix and then we're dripping down the
tuth side. And let me tell you what, I don't care what traffic
we may hit. It's gonna be worth to drive because once the three of
those characters get in the car with me, is gonna be NonStop comedy from
the time you get the Phoenix two side. So I'm looking forward to.
But what do you do when you come here, Pete? Because you know
it was a long time because that you lived here. But you know what
restaurants do you go to? Where do you hang you know? Do you
have a do you have bars? You go to? What? You know?
Where can we find Pete Williams when you're hanging out? There's uh uh?
What's the place over there on Grant? One of my little favorite uh
on Grant? Uh a restaurant or bar? What just had it? Fisher?
Oh? A Constant street for uh uh? You guys having it too,
you know, we having every day you listen, Culinary dropout, Culinary
drop out. Here you go, Culinary drop out is one of the spots.
And then anything over there on university. So I got something. I
got one of your booster buddies. You So, what happened to Pete's leg
one and two? How old is Pete? Now? How old? Yeah?
I just said sixty two days, two weeks ago. Sixty, Pete.
Come on, now, that makes me feel old. Man. Come
on, that's incredible, man, incredible. You're steal in the shape that
you're man. Hey, you got a young spirit to me? Man,
Well, we do too. We just don't remember how young we are.
Well remember, but my memory is because I can't remember the places I hang
out. Yeah, okay, well, thanks so much. We'll see you
soon then, Hey, Pete, thank you man as always, Petz one
of the great guys, one of the great guys. You can't even think
of a dang restaurant, you know, I mean, what the heck?
Steve, No, he's sixty, Steve, I know, I know the
six oh finished, eighty five finished. He had two years, two years,
may, four years time. I'm sure your youngest is what twenty one?
Your oldest thirty? Come on? How fast? Had happened? Very
fast? Very fast? You know it's funny because you know we're going to
the going to the ball game, last night, and I on a Facebook
memory today today showed a game that we went to a game a few years
ago, and I matched it up with a picture of the first time I
took Adam to Dodger Stayed. He would have been he would have been about
three or four, maybe three. And and looking at that picture of me
with my son as a not an infant but a toddler, and then now
we're with his kid at a ball game, and it just all kinds of
goose bumps from that, from that last night, which is very cool.
A kid had no idea where he was, he was, he was looking
around, he was having fun, but it was it was crazy. There'll
be plenty of pictures. It was a weird day, a good day yesterday
in baseball except except for a couple of games. But the guy who threw
a new no hitter, a no hitter in Philadelphia, he threw a no
hitter. And then in that same game, a guy who had played in
the minors for like twelve years got his first at bat and he hit a
home run. I saw and his family was in the stands and his dad
was crying in this Yeah, can you imagine he'd be going crazy is when
we've had him on the sand, I'd be bawling. If you know,
if I my son played in the you know, first major league game,
and he'd been in the miners all that time, I'd be balling anytime I
kid hit a homer in the Major League, but I'd be balling just to
the kid got to the major late, of course, But that's that's uh,
that's very cool. I did see something on that one that this guy
had been in the in the miners all this time, got in a bat
and went yard. Yeah. Did you also see that we didn't mention the
chiefs for Jeane Smith is going to retire. He's retiring after this year.
Yeah, he's out of here. And again these guys come in, they
break everything up, and then they go somewhere. So what they have?
What are you gonna do? All right? Should we take our break?
Yeah, let's go break last break of the day. I heard you did
not win the billion and I did not win the the billion and a half.
No, we didn't hit the We didn't hit that. We have a
little a little body mine that gets tickets and we split him a little superstitious
thing he was at he went to get his tickets, and the the got
the catcher said, hey, here, there's three tickets here that this guy
changed his mind on, decided he didn't want him. But those are the
winners. Didn't win though. Dang it all right, let's take our break.
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I'd love to hear from you. Yep, oh I had something,
Steve, and I fact shoot, I forgot oh Iowa State football. Yeah.
Man, they've now up to eleven players who've been betting on sports and
betting on their own team. Okay, And then the funny part is this
one and these guys are getting charged with a crime because they're getting charged with
betting under somebody else's account account or ID, and so they're getting charged with
it a crime called tampering with records because they're they're betting. But you know,
one guy was using his moms and you know, had his mom's name
and stuff. So but I'll just read this paragraph. It's from a story
in Sports Illustrated. One of the players, the defensive tackle Isaiah Lee,
was accused of placing twenty six different rate wagers on twelve separate Cyclones football games.
One of the games he allegedly bet on was the twenty twenty one matchup
between Iowa State and Texas that he played in, but Lee bet on the
Longhorns to win. He finished the game with just one tackle and the Cyclones
one thirty seven, so he bet against his own team and then they won.
So did he feel bad or good about about the game? About it?
Yeah? Did you feel bad about the probably bad? Do you feel
bad about the loss or do you feel good about the fact that or the
losing the bad? Or do you feel good about winning the game? Which
one was a bigger deal to him? This is this is and you know,
there's all these people saying, well, we knew this was gonna happen.
You're right, we knew this was gonna happen. But this is on
the people, on the guys who are doing it. It's not about the
fact that gambling is available. It's about the fact that these guys know the
rules and choose to break the rules. I love a call. All right,
let's take it light on the air and I on the ball. Yeah,
this is Nico man, what's up? Nico? Hey man. I
had a couple of days to process this big Twilve movie. Okay, I
still don't like it, but I get it. Why don't you like it?
Now? I wanted the Pack twelve to stay around. I grew up
with the Pack twel Well, yeah, and I think that's what a lot
of people are saying right. They wanted to packed off to survive. It
didn't. So I'm okay with what what happened. I mean, is that
kind of where you're at? Yeah, and that this gives me a chance
to check out the new cheerleaders that come to town. We're just gonna say,
Nico, you're probably a guy who doesn't like change. And I'm thinking
that's not true because you changed girlfriends all the time. That's true. I'm
bragging at the break up with this one girlfriend. I hope she doesn't listen.
You just got this girlfriend. I hope she's not listening to you.
She knows. Hey, man, I thought I could be a vanilla ice
cream guy. Okay, Cassanova, you probably elactose, intolerant man. You
know he is Nico, He's he's he's living vicariously through you. To be
twenty years a year for sure, he wouldn't be the first one. Alright,
dude, thank you, man, I hear, Okay, go,
I still think he's all use car salesman, but I like him. Okay,
Okay, why do you what do you mean by that? In what
way? Is he used car salesman? Because he'll tell you what you want
to hear? Man, he could like try to sell me a beat up
Honda Civic with like three wheels, and I'd probably buy it. Yeah,
okay, okay, okay, I get it and say, if your cash
make your credit sure is good. But hey, mans, I guess he
what he's saying. But you know, I think, look, Jim has
done a great job. He doesn't talk, he doesn't talk or sound like
a typical coach. No, no, right, he sounds like she's great.
Right. He sounds like he's a different he's a different cat. Who
just does you know? He's going through this thing differently than anybody else.
And but that's what's making it work for him, I think, I mean,
I think that's why it seems to be working, because he's not going
about it the way everybody else is going about it, because the guy's got
a different, different experience. Let me also ask you this, Okay,
so we know what we saw the last previous three years before Jed got here.
Is he kind of still living off that because he's you couldn't be being
worse than the guy before, right, So now he's doing what he does
and people are saying, Okay, at least we've moved on from that,
and he's he's benefiting from what was the way not to do things. Yeah,
yeah, I guess, but I don't I don't look. I don't
think you get anything from the way Kevin Sumlin did things here. There's nothing
you're not gonna say because nobody else was ever gonna do what he did,
right, So you don't even look at that. What what what he would
have had to look at was can I go there with this plan that I
have and win football games? And he obviously thought he could and and that's
kind of what he's doing. So I don't think there's anything you get from
that. You glean from the way someone did things here. He didn't look
at that because if he would have looked at that and said, there's no
way you can win here, because he couldn't win there there, excuse me,
you're working to do that? It was just so bad. It was
also bad. So uh, I think it's more about you know, he
he I mean, he was going to take this opportunity to where wherever he
could get this opportunity, right if you got an Arizona Arizona state, uh,
you know you and LV wherever, because he had a way that he
was going to come and do this, and so he's doing it that way
and it's so far working for him. Okay, you know, and he's
doing well. Wow, so far, so far, well, you know,
again, remains to be seen. I think, you know, I
think what you hear from people is that when I say people, I mean
like the media that we follow and listen to, he's got their attention.
You know. People are saying there's there might be something going on down at
uh down down in Arizona. Let's keep an eye on it. Nobody's saying
or Arizona is gonna contend for the oh yeah, yeah, but they're saying
there's something going on. Who. Also, I think that he's a he's
a good dude, and he has a lot of a lot of friends in
the media, that that he hasn't pissed off yet doesn't make sense. No,
no, no, they love Sean. Yeah, until they didn't,
until they didn't. Yeah, No, you're you're right, you're right.
No, I think, yeah, I think I think that's a piece of
it. Excuse me, I believe that, you know, I guess I
guess the way to put it is that there that you know, if you're
paying attention to what he's doing and how he's doing it. What's not to
like? Right, you know, what's not to like? And so I
think that I think it's more it's more like that that there as you say
that, he hasn't done anything to piss everybody off. No, and if
you win at least to some degree compared to what it was before, you're
gonna be okay. Yeah, because this this town. Come on, if
you win seven, eight, nine games, eventually they'll get tired of winning
seven eight the running games because they want to win it all, especially if
you tease them, right, especially if you tease them and you win nine
games? Going on, come on, we're clothes were closes? Well?
Come on? What was the year they went to Penn State? Year ninety
ninety nine? How how question was that? Very and there were you were
he was dangling a lot of stuff. Yeah, like you guys are gonna
be really really good, extremely crushing, Yeah, and then that happened,
like extremely crushing, Steve. I'm still crushed by it. That whole season.
You know, that season I went on the booster trip to Oregon State
and we haven't got sideline passed. Is rich Tomy got a sideline pass on.
My wife and I were on the sidelines for the game Comedy games in
it was the last It was the Organ Steak game was the last game before
the SU game in the fog. It was already bad year, and they
got beat and we got taunted by We had to sit there and get taunted
by Organ Steak fans, and I'm like, I want to you guys,
give me the keys. You guys have not been winning that long to be
to be taunting us. I mean, we're not you know, we're not
in Notre Dame. But we've been better than you up until now, you
know, because that was when they first got good with UH, with Dennis
Errickson and stuff. And I'm like, shut the hell up, But you
know, what can you do. You're losing. They're kicking your ass and
there was nothing you could do about it. And I hated that, and
that that sticks in my in my cross about that season, you know.
And then when you know, after the fact, I talked to Dick and
asked him, you know what happened. He is, we didn't do the
work. We didn't do the work in the off season that we needed.
They thought too much of themselves yeah, well and he said, he said,
and we got hitting them out the Penn State and we never even cover
that. That that was That was that the week the the SI cover,
no, no, the SI cover was ninety three, ninety four. They
were good, they went, they went eight and three, but then they
went and lost to Utah and in the Freedom Bowl that year, now was
again another game they they were in, they were in the running for the
league, went to USC and got smacked by a USC team that should't have
smacked them, and that that killed But isn't that It was on a football.
That's a was on a football in a nutshell, in a nutshell,
expect the unexpected. You know. There was a picture of somebody somebody around
a photo and I don't remember why, of a Chuck cecil. After they
got beat in eighty six up at up at h up at uh Ucla.
They were winning big, twenty four to six or something like that and then
got beat And that game, even if all the other results would have stayed
the same, Arizona would have gone to the World Bowl that year, would
have could have shut out. And your dad was a left. Yeah,
it was nineteen eighty six and I was at that game. We went to
that. We went to that road trip and watched it all fall apart.
We were we were on the on the ninety ninety three road trip where they
lost to cal On, you know, on the on that interception returned for
a touchdown the end. They lose that game and that keep him out of
the Rose Bowl. We went to it. We saw a lot of those
Steve, I'm hurting now, man, I'm hurting. Well, this is
your last if they there's no Rose Bowl this year, even if a miracle
happened. Right, Yeah, the Rose bowls a playoff, the playoff game
so you can get to the playoff and get it. You got a violin
in your pocket, violin in your pocket as you're bringing up and play it,
and even a little one. I don't unfortunately. Yeah, growing up
okay, you grew up in Phoenix, right, Yeah? Were you an
as fan? Oh? No? Was it not? Not at all?
I didn't care about them at all, No I did. I didn't care
about the Cardinal's sons. Why not? I don't know. I just I
mean, they were never good. You were a sports fan, Yeah,
I was sports fan. I just wasn't. He wanted to be a doctor,
Come on, but I know, but still, I mean, like
I said, I've never really been a fan of You've never even that,
you've never followed the team? No, not really no, because my my
dad especially, he doesn't like watch American like basketball, for he was like
soccer, no tennis, But he doesn't really watch sports like that. What's
what's wrong with your dad? He works sports, that's good, Yeah,
it works a lot, doesn't have time watch sport, so he's not He's
not like a football, baseball, basketball, No, not really. I
mean now kind of but not really. No. So I kind of grew
up I played sports like everything now, I watched everything, but I never
had a team that I rooted for religiously like most people did. So you
city follow players, yeah, giving some players that were big for you for
like we're sport, any sport. I'm just your favorite, your favorite player,
any sport that that that you love. I don't know. I guess
like Kobe Kobe lebron Kyrie Kerry, who about football? Football? Let's see,
I couldn't even tell you football. Yeah, I don't know, he's
a general. I don't know. There's so many players that I mean,
I don't know on top of my head right now. It couldn't be like
Jerry right Smith, I was tooled around, but I don't know, just
different guys that I just watched. Oh, this guy's pretty good, and
you know it probably does baseball. No, not baseball. No. Yeah,
but baseball fans are lost art. It's a lost art. Well,
I think I think as as as as Jason said, baseball fans are fans
of players. I mean, I'm a I'm a Dodger fan, but I'm
an old school guy. My son's a Dodger fan, but he knows all
the players. Yeah, and not just Dodger players. He you know,
we do this this immaculate grid thing. Dad, How did you not know
that? Guy? I'm like, I don't even know who you're talking about.
Yeah, no, no, no, let me take something, Adam.
Time will come as his kid gets older. Yeah, you don't care
about sports as much. Worried about your kid and your family and blah blah
blah. Eventually, at some point in your life there was a time in
transition you say, you know, I don't care anymore. I gotta go
to a soccer game. And that's and that's really kind of where I lost
as much as I'm a Dodger fan. Now I kind of lost a lot
of that because time life happens. Life, life happens. And you said,
when I was a kid, I knew about all the stats, and
then I just realized, no, what, what's a purpose? Purpose?
And then I got into the business, and now you know if I'm a
fan of sports but not of sports. Yeah, Who's who do we have
on the TV on the show this week? Who said exactly that I'm a
sports guy, but I'm not really a sports can You laughed, and you
looked at me, and I said, exactly, what do you say?
Who was it? Sports editor at the Star? And it sounds funny,
but it's true. It's true, it's true. And I see how that
has happened over the years. I see And do you mean for you too,
because you're not as involved as you used to be? Right? And
your buddy's probably too. I mean again, you know, people ask me
who's your favorite NFL team? I say the team that I got money.
Wait, you gonna call it Nicholson? Who is talking about me? Yea?
This week? It's the nine years all right? That was fun.
Pete Williams, thank you for being here Jack, but we're going to talk
to you again. We appreciate your your stuff, and we'll be back tomorrow.
I'm trying to truck someone. We'll see who we got for you,
So be sure to come back tomorrow