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Steve Rivera and Jakin Salez. They
have their eye on the ball on two

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Sons Sports Stag Fox Sports fourteen fifty
streaming live. I mean I heart radio

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arm. Hey, welcome back to
Ari in the Ball here on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
He's Jakens. Got a guy Jason with

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us. Got fourteen minutes and some
breaking news. Arizona linebacker Justin Flow as

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the name GDP bud kis Award watch
list whoa guys, I barely barely played.

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Mm hm, he's gonna be the
key. They must have seen him

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in the press conference without Yeah,
did you see that he missed? He

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missed as he was the one of
the guys himself that he missed. If

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you watch, you'll see it on
Twitter. Is his thing. Yesterday with

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the guys, he was a little
kind of how would you say, I

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mean, I don't know, different
different. You know, you have to

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go watch that kinnect the guy.
We saw it spring when he came in

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and kind of like, you know, look, you know, and I

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said, this is kind of kind
of strange, but he was more strange

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yesterday. Yeah, so yeah,
listen to watch it. I'll have to

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go justin spears, but heat does
a Stanford seaming. No, it's just

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an alter egos, alter ego,
just you know how he kind of sees

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like like Ricky b Ricky or what
kind of in the third person is yeah,

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yeah, go back there, he'll
see it. Okay, I gotta

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go see it, all right,
all right. Phil Micholson, professional golfer

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that more than one billion dollars on
football, baseball, and basketball over the

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past three decades, and even allegedly
attempted to bet a place a four hundred

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thousand wager on Team USA in the
twenty twelve Ryder Cup. Okay, we

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got to talk about this for a
second. A billion dollars now again,

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he's got the money. But now, but somewhere in there, I think

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it said didn't we say that?
It said he he may have lost as

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much as one hundred billion of the
billion betting a billion, he lost one

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hundred million dollars. He was like
one hundred million dollars on the wrong side,

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which is which is an incredible number. And and I mean, if

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it's money and he gets to do
whatever he wants and he's still very wealthy,

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right, but that, wow,
is he or isn't he Well,

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it's his money. You know.
The thing is, you know this guy

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that's that's writing the book is the
guy that he did is is gambling with

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ended up going to prison over a
an insider trading deal that Michelson was a

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partnering. Well, this guy went
to prison over that. So when I

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was writing this book and you know, there's gonna be, there's gonna people.

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First of all, Michelson hasn't commented
about this, at least from what

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I've said anybody, and he might
not butt you know, he pissed off

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a guy that goes to prison.
He knows stuff about you. He's gonna

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write stuff. Now, this is
incredible stuff. I'm looking at the I'm

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looking at the note at at the
the by the numbers thing. According to

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this is said, he bet so
an even money bet is the minus one

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ten bet. Right, we bet
that all the time minus You've got a

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bet one hundred ten dollars to win
one hundred dollars, okay, one hundred,

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one thousand, one hundred and fifteen
times he bet one hundred and ten

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thousand dollars to win one hundred thousand
dollars. How many times you do that

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one thousand, one hundred and fifteen
times, that's one hundred million. So

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and then on eight hundred and fifty
eight times he bet two to twenty to

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win two hundred, which is basically
doubled the bet, but still basically even

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went bet. It said, the
sum of those nineteen hundred and seventy three

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wagers, you know, the one
tens and the two twenties, was three

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hundred and eleven million dollars. On
those bets in twenty eleven alone, he

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made thirty three thousand, one hundred
and fifty four bets, which is an

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average of nearly nine bets per day. In one day in June. On

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June twenty second, twenty eleven,
apparently this guy's got all these records,

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he made forty three bets on Major
League baseball games and lost one hundred and

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forty three five hundred that day.
It's either he's not really or whatever.

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Said. He made a staggering seven
thousand and sixty five wagers on football,

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basketball, and baseball. That was
during this time that he was betting with

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this guy. So I'm crazy,
crazy, crazy numbers now for us,

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for you, well, you don't
have a wife, so for me,

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my wife ever gives me crap about
putting, you know, twenty bucks on

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new games. Un I'm not Phil
Mickelson. I mean, what do you

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you know, what are you yelling
me? Yelling at me about right,

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I'm gonna use that, you know, I fully intend to use that.

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There are some crazy numbers, and
you know what, that's a problem.

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That's not that's not I've got the
money to do this. That's a gambling

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problem. Don't you think if all
this is true? Yeah? Yeah,

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again, he's got the money.
I don't know again does he? I

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mean, you know, people say, well that now I see why he

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took the live deal, right,
and it's saying all this stuff and ripping

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the PGA tour because he had to
get out of all this uh all this

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dead or whatever, who knows,
but anyway makes people see him a little

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differently though. For sure said he
wanted about four hundred thousand dollars on a

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Ryder cup that he was in and
had and the guys that we're going better

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with this guy. The guy said, I'm not taking that, and they

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he would have lost because they lost
that, right, they lost that Ryder

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cup. So anyways, all right, opening nice schedule for the twenty twenty

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three twenty four NBS season opener is
going to be on October twenty fourth.

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The team's playing in the open.
It will be the loss and just Lakers

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versus the Denver Nuggets, so Western
Conference Finals rematch and the Phoenix Suns versus

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the Golden Cil Warriors. All right, pretty good game, Cooper October four.

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Yeah, Steve, they burning at
the football scene started him. Yeah,

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ready for them already. The overlap
and baseball will still be going on.

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Yeah, so I'll be all three
sports will be going on at the

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same time. That's that's nuts that
UNDI, what are you gonna do?

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Uh? The Colts are starting their
fourth overall pick, a quarterback Anthony Richardson

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over a Gardner Minshew, for their
Week one preseason opener overage to the Bills

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on Saturday. Well, you draft
a guy in the first round, you're

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expect him to play, right,
m Yeah, you do them, So

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he's gonna be He's gonna be interesting
to see because there are people said that

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he had hadn't played enough to prove
that he should have been a first round

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pick. Yeah, but from where
I've heard in camp, he's been looking

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really good. So, well,
he's got a rocket arm. But yeah,

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we all know, we've talked about
that a million times in year.

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What's the point of having a rocket
over you can't hit your target? I'm

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pretty true, all right. Some
more NFL news. The number two overall

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picks J Stroud makes his NFL preseason
debut today against the Patriots. So the

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game actually just started like right now, So see how he does. And

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I forgot that. I forgot that
quarterbacks went one and two. Yeah,

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and Anthony Richardson was what pick four, the number four, so one,

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two and four, yep, I
don't remember that in the draft. Who's

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three? I think it was like
a defensive yeah, I think probably defensive

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linemans. Yeah, yep. Okay. The ESPN is nearing a deal to

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add X Warrior GM. Bob Myers
to NBA coverage said that again, ESPN

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is nearing a deal to add X
Warriors GM Warriors. Yeah, Bob Myers

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to cover NBA. Oh really to
be one of those yeah experts, that

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makes sense. It's funny though.
It's funny, Jay, it's funny.

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It's not the right word. But
I don't know if I've I've been gone

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through this, but uh, and
I maybe you have. He's been let

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a lot of people go for a
lot of money they're paying them. Now

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they're bringing up people who I don't
know how much we're paying them, but

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they let them go for a reason. Now they're bringing back some people a

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different right, different level of people, different levels, Steve, it's the

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old thing, man, We're gonna
get rid of you because you make too

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much money, so we can bring
in this guy and don't know you no,

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no, I know, I get
it. And they they lost a

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lot of good talent but they didn't
care. But they're bringing back people who

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kind of feel the roles. But
you know what the thing is, guys

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like you, me, Jason.
The fact that they got rid of Mark

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Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy on the
NBA games is gonna isn't gonna stop us

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from watching it, of course,
of course. And they know that,

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of course not, because the product, the product is, you know,

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is what's on the port right right
right, And people say, well,

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these guys aren't as good as these
guys, but you're still here to watch,

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right. Well, it's kinda like
Bill Wolman. It's like Bill woman.

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Oh, I don't like what guess
what, You're still gonna watch.

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You are gonna watch And people say, oh, I turn it off whenever

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he's on you liar, No,
no, they some dude, but he

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might turn the ball from down some
but they still watch, They still watch.

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You're absolutely right, absolutely right?
All right? Uh, the NFL

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plus streaming out is going to be
offering the ability to watch NFL Network and

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nf A red zone, so they're
adding red zone, red zone to that.

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But you can't watch. You still
can't watch games because those are gonna

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be on on Sunday Sunday Ticket,
which is gonna be on YouTube TV,

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which is very expensive. How much
is it like three four hundred, four

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hundred and fifty bucks for the season, And unfortunately for me, and you

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know, I'll claim ignorance on this, when I was gravy training off my

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daughter because they had a student a
student rate and you could only stream it,

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but you know it was it was
Sunday ticket, NFL Sunday ticket,

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so we got to call it Sunday
ticket on the phone right now, you

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explaining to do all right? All
right, that's all they're breaking his eye

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for today. Okay, I can't
after I keep going back to this thing

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with film Michals and I mean,
I just find it again. None of

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my business, right, none of
my business, the dude, but this

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is amazing well and and the thing
is most of this betting was done before

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it was legal to bet here,
wasn't it. No? Yeah, no,

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because he's been doing it all this
time, Because we're talking about talking

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about according to the story, he
met this guy in two thousand and six,

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hooked up with him in two thousand
and eight, and that's when he

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started betting this kind of money.
Yeah, well it's probably you know,

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go to got go between. You
know, one of the things I haven't

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seen in the in the news,
and I've been trying to find it,

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and maybe I'm just not good at
it. Uh. The the Maui Classic

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and the building, Well did the
building burn And that's why I'm trying to

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find out because that's that's that is
one of the worst things you could you've

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ever seen. Yeah, I mean
a whole the whole city burned down,

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pretty much. It's yeah, I'm
sure you have you been there. I've

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been I've been there. I went
to five Maui Classics, and I'm wondering

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is this the thing gonna stand,
so gonna be able to go it looked

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back well, early on I did
see a tweet from the Maui classic tweeter

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what do they say? That just
said we're keeping an eye on what's pointing

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on here, But it didn't say
how long ago? A couple of days

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ago. Okay, so maybe we'll
find that. I'm sure they have a

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because because that's huge for for that
community. Yeah, but I've got the

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pictures of that devastating. How the
hell does that happen? Devastating in this

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time with the technology, the the
the equipment, sure that everything that that

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that's available water around you know,
you know, to hear the people were

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jumping into the ocean to get away
from the fin and just man, I

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you know, you just go,
hi, you know, how does this

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happen in this day and age?
Right? And it's just a small community,

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fantastic community obviously, huh. And
I'm trying to figure out or find

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it. Where are you looking it
up? Yeah, I'm trying to I'm

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not I'm not I'm not finding anything. But uh, oh god, it's

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just I'm I'm I'm I'm sitting here
a stoundard at the pictures that that that

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that I see, Like you know, like when the when you know the

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Catlana Mountains burned down, you know, you thought you can't stop this,

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how do you stop this? Well, and then you see it, Well

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you've been here all your life and
you see I can't believe this is happening.

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Yeah, it's just oh man,
I'm just I'm just gonna get into

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the pictures. Mick Fleetwood's restaurant burned
down. I mean a lot of stuff

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burned down. But man, there's
a there's a helicopter shot at the whole

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the whole city isn't smoke. It's
just crazy that that this, that this

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could happen. I it's very sad. I haven't heard anything about, uh,

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if there's a you know, if
there's some some deaths related to this

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or not. I mean I can't
imagine that there aren't. When you think

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of the destruction, thirty six people
have done, thirty six sixty six years

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of yesterday and thirty six totals.
Now yeah, just uh not that I

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don't see anything that's saying whether or
not. And you know what, that's

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the last thing you're gonna worry about
as well. Can we still have our

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basketball tournament. You know, you
got you got so many lives that are

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are wrecked by this. Yeah,
I went. I went there a lot

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of years ago with a bunch of
guys to go play golf for a week.

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And uh and we went over to
Kappeloua. But we went, you

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know, went to dinner and the
bars and stuff like that. In the

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hind and yeah, no, I've
been to five I've been to five Milton

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classes. It's just a gym.
It's just i haven't been there a long

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time, so I'm sure they refurbished
it, but it was just a gym.

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Here. It is the Civic Center. Somebody somebody behind the Civic Center,

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the Lion. It was not destroyed, but Front Street Lahine has gone,

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so apparently that did not and not
this is tweeted by somebody from a

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call. Okay, got a minute, so take it real quick. Higher

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on the aar and on the ball. Well, I hate to like,

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you know now, in hindsight,
it's such because the Pac twelve, you

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know, it is what it is. And I don't really called to elaborate

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on that a little bit because I'm
so heartbroken from it. But Jay,

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it was one of the best tricks
to get Sunday ticket for free. Since

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they didn't carry the pac Twall Matt
network. I was call the retention department

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every day year. The TV would
never pick up the Pactwall network, and

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I would swindle. You know the
thing that the thing that fed me really

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killed me at the end. And
I hate it because of the Larry Scott

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and all that. I just yeah, and I'll get Sunday ticket for free

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because that's that's the way I would
leverage. Okay, year, and I

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know it this is old news and
everything, but bro, I'm heartbroken from

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a people to My childhood is gone
and it's going forward. Yes, the

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Texas Schools is natural, but this
sucks. Man. Yeah, it's hey

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Mike. We gotta go. Thank
We gotta go, thank you. We're

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to break it. We gotta get
coming up. So call again later because

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we want to talk about this some
more. Appreciate it. Wait, thanks,

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man, Yeah, we gotta go
get ahold of Pete. Right,

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Yeah, We're gonna get Pete Williams
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Hey, welcome back to on the
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Steve Riverai's Jacob's Austin. We're waiting
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Pete's a shoe, Yes, sir, Pete. How you doing.

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I'm good you we're doing fine.
Thank you. I'm sure you're interestedly waiting

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to come down to Tucson in a
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have a great at the time as
you as you go home. Yeah,

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yeah, you're one of the highlights. Hey, before we get to all

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that, let's talk about something you
were part of for a number of years,

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a couple of years at least,
the PAC twelve Pack ten at the

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time. What are your thoughts about
disbanding? Uh, even though it's really

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uh, it's really better. Sweet. You know, I've been a fan

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of a Pack eight ever since nineteen
seventy one, and honestly, by the

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time I was ten, I kid
you not. By the time I was

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ten, I can name every starter
on all the teams in the conference.

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That's how much I was in.
And then I became aware of the u

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of it. You know what they
joined Joe Nels or Russell Russell H Brown,

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Russell Brown, Brain, f Russell
Brown. I'm delebrated. They're afraid

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of Fox. You know. They
came on my racar once they joined.

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So it's just it's starting in the
sense of a composite with great hears.

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They're just imploded like this when there
was no reason for it. You know,

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if the proper leaders, what's their
business? Yeah, hey, your

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your phone is breaking up. Just
a Scotia of pizza if you can.

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I know you're standing in a bad
place and what but you know, thinking

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back to that, you know you
you know you so you were aware of

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all this when Arizona and as you
joined the conference and then you became a

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part of it. You know how
much of what you knew about the you

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had to do with the fact that
you wanted to play in the league and

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you know, went to Arizona and
all that stuff. Well, you know,

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I hope to think to break up, am I coming to clearly?

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Yeah, it's kind of choppy.
I'm trying to move rooms and see it

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is that of my uh a little
a lot of strong of the room.

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Let's see, it's different. You
know, it's me and not you guys.

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Yeah, you never know what I
was going to say. I can

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empathize with like a lot of these
these players and non revenue sports as far

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as you know, their parents because
they choose schools because of the access of

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their parents being able to see them
play. And for me, what was

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really important for me was not only
playing in the major conference, but being

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able to come home the Southern cow
where you know, it was guaranteed my

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folks and family and friends will be
able to see me play twice a year,

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and then the access of getting the
two side was so that played a

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big deal in is well. So
I have a lot of empathy for these

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people, particularly, you know,
because usc Ust later one is gonna be

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traveling all the way to the East
coast and we may have our same things

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going out to Central Florida or whatever. So it's a tough deal all around.

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Well, it impacts you a little
bit because you're a fan. You

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go to the games in La in
that area, southern California and in Vegas,

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and so oh man, it didn't
It didn't passed me big time.

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I'm pissed off about that. Man's
true. But uh, and I'm already

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plotting. Okay, once this moved
to the big twelve starts in twenty five,

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you know what role games am I
going to go through TCU as a

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musk because that was my first recruiting
ship actually, and one of my best

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friends, you know, he's alumni
of TCUs and TCU as a musk.

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But it's not the same as going
to UCLA, u SC or you know

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even as U well SU always be
right or the Bay Area, you know,

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uh, going to see the fellas
and and all that right, I'm

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I'm I'm guessing that I'm guessing up
in ten p You're not a very welcome

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guy over there either you were either
you, either you or Eddie smith Hey.

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But you know what, I love
it though, you know, I

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still you know what, I still
get treated with respect there. But it's

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all good nature stuff. The little
little uh, the little burger joined across

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me as us campus. How I'm
having a break fees all of a sudden,

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man, your aging aging, Pete, your age. That could be

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honest, that could be honest because
we're contagious. Yeah, I love that

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place. In the beginning. You
know, it was a little hot down

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in a minute, but it ain't
treated with great respect and we just have

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a little good nature bands are going
on back and forth. Did you were

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your u a stuff there? Of
course, I'm I'm bewhere man. So

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you were talking about starting to talking
about a little bit. But you know,

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regardless of you know, we're moved
on right the conferences. You know,

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we're out of the conference. The
Pact twelve is gone, so now

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you got a big twelve basketball conference
that adds Arizona adds uh. You know

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you talk Colorado on the SHU.
But really the big addition is Arizona to

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a conference that's already widely considered the
best in the country. How much fun

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are you gonna have with that?
You know what? It is going to

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be an amazing conference. You know, I was just sitting back and I

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was thinking, you know, as
far as you have a in the Pac

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twelve, what we've led the conference
in attendance for I believe thirty eighth straight

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years. Now, well that's going
to change now because everybody attends game out

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there in that conference. So it's
gonna be some fantastic basketball, and those

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road games are going to be something
else. So I know you weren't part

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of a team here that won the
Pac twelve Pac ten titles at the time,

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but you were, you know,
the year before you had a chance.

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But how do you and you weren't
around when they did win it,

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I think in eighty six, eighty
five, eighty six, How do you

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think if Arizona pulls off a championship
in the Big twelve, how do you

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think will feel us different and we
will feel the same kind of taking over

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the conference? Well, no,
well it's never going to be a takeover

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as long as you got Kansas in
there, and in much respect to Baylor,

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it's just so strong. But Arizona
is gonna be I I was looking

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looking at something earlier day. I
think on Twitter that Michael Luke and share

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together as far as peers of the
program, and I think they did a

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great job. Kansas, they deserve
to be headed as what everybody else,

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But Arizona is not far behind.
Man, We're really not. So we're

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just as capable of winning a title
that league as anyone. And I love

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what you know Tommy's done with this
year's team as far as recruiting, and

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it's only going to get better.
So I'm not going to be shocked.

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A matter of fact, I'm I'm
expecting it. You know. That's how

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That's how great I think our program
is. Yeah, I mean when you

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think about it too, because we
mentioned this the other day. You know,

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in this depending on how the scheduling
falls in the first season, you

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know, we Arizona could have Duke
and Kansas you know at home, you

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know, in the same season.
I mean, you want to talk about

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something that the uh, the Arizona
fans have been waiting for for a really

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long time. Buckle up because it's
going to be an incredible ride, absolutely,

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and I can't wait to see where
are they going to do? Are

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they're going to separate the conferences between
divisions and you know who's in our division

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and you know if we played them
twice another division once. I can't wait

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for all that stuff to play out. Makes you want to be back on

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the team, well, it makes
you got to be back on the team

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regardless of where we was at.
What with the jack the leg of mine,

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we can get about that. Well
you ask, yeah, well,

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how how how are things going with
that, Pete, because we do want

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to know. Well, you know, I'm pretty much in the same situation.

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You know, my bones are fine. I'm just I'm just having nervous

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issues and those don't seem to want
to go away, and there's going to

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00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.920
be generated their own pace if they
decide to. So I'm going to off

407
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.000
work order. I'm doing fine,
you know, physically fit with the steps

408
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:45.440
of the leg. But I'm doing
fine. It's been a while, it's

409
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:51.079
been a twenty months, it's been
a year. It's been a year in

410
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.440
about three months. Oh wow,
man, that's to go. But I

411
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.680
know I still think I still think
you can dunk on either one of us,

412
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:07.359
so you don't have to think it's
done. It would be a straight

413
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.519
vertical. I'm not taking off of
one leg anymore. It would be a

414
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.799
straight vertical. Though. Pete with
with what's happened though, and I mean,

415
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.279
I'm presuming that you're an overall sports
fan. You know, yes,

416
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:19.839
you love the basketball, but you
probably you know, you do football and

417
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.559
all that. Are you? What
do you think of everything that's happening with

418
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.000
with college athletics and the way it's
I mean, I think we thought there

419
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.200
was gonna be some consolidation down the
road, but it happened really fast.

420
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.119
Everything that's just going on, realignment, nil, transfer portal, all that

421
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.599
stuff. I know we've had nil
and transfer portal conversations before, but now

422
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.759
you throw this in and it's another
big thing that's happened. I mean,

423
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.799
is it is it getting distasteful to
you or you're just rolling with it?

424
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.640
How are you taking it? Oh? Absolutely absolutely distasteful? But hey,

425
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.400
what it is? I wish and
I know if I heard some other people

426
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.559
talk about this, you know,
supports meat or whatever and this is off

427
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.279
with driven TV, driven money or
whatever. You know, unfortunately everybody else,

428
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.440
all the other programs, basketball and
then not governy programs, we got

429
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.759
to fall into the same umbrellas over
that. Why don't they just make independent

430
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.319
on all the football teams and let
everybody else stay in remaining conferences or whatever

431
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.759
may sound too simple, whatever,
I don't know. I've just think it's

432
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.319
unfair where all these other fools have
to abandon traditional conferences, the rivalries,

433
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.519
the goal under the umbrella of all
this TV and football money. It's ridiculous

434
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.920
to me, right right, And
I think that part of you is because

435
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.519
you're older. You know, we're
both are all older, and we're used

436
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.440
to the tradition, and the young
kids today are just saying, no,

437
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:42.119
let's move on and get the money
and go right right, Yeah, yeah,

438
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.799
if we want to, Yeah,
okay. And you'll be here in

439
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.519
a couple of weeks for the lud
Olson Cabmen going after a New York titles.

440
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.039
Two weeks from today, Oh that's
right, two weeks from today.

441
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.880
You'll be back in town ringing the
show. Are you guys already talking smack

442
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.480
to each other? No, not
yet, but you know, I'm gonna

443
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.640
fly in the Phoenix and I'm at
to wait around because I'm picking up Eddie

444
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.960
Smith, Joe Turner and Craig McMillan
and Phoenix and then we're dripping down the

445
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.880
tuth side. And let me tell
you what, I don't care what traffic

446
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.279
we may hit. It's gonna be
worth to drive because once the three of

447
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.599
those characters get in the car with
me, is gonna be NonStop comedy from

448
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.359
the time you get the Phoenix two
side. So I'm looking forward to.

449
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.720
But what do you do when you
come here, Pete? Because you know

450
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.759
it was a long time because that
you lived here. But you know what

451
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.480
restaurants do you go to? Where
do you hang you know? Do you

452
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.319
have a do you have bars?
You go to? What? You know?

453
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.240
Where can we find Pete Williams when
you're hanging out? There's uh uh?

454
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.279
What's the place over there on Grant? One of my little favorite uh

455
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:48.519
on Grant? Uh a restaurant or
bar? What just had it? Fisher?

456
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:56.960
Oh? A Constant street for uh
uh? You guys having it too,

457
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.599
you know, we having every day
you listen, Culinary dropout, Culinary

458
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.240
drop out. Here you go,
Culinary drop out is one of the spots.

459
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:11.000
And then anything over there on university. So I got something. I

460
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.440
got one of your booster buddies.
You So, what happened to Pete's leg

461
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.160
one and two? How old is
Pete? Now? How old? Yeah?

462
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.279
I just said sixty two days,
two weeks ago. Sixty, Pete.

463
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.519
Come on, now, that makes
me feel old. Man. Come

464
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.720
on, that's incredible, man,
incredible. You're steal in the shape that

465
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.720
you're man. Hey, you got
a young spirit to me? Man,

466
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.039
Well, we do too. We
just don't remember how young we are.

467
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.519
Well remember, but my memory is
because I can't remember the places I hang

468
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:47.759
out. Yeah, okay, well, thanks so much. We'll see you

469
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.039
soon then, Hey, Pete,
thank you man as always, Petz one

470
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.240
of the great guys, one of
the great guys. You can't even think

471
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.480
of a dang restaurant, you know, I mean, what the heck?

472
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:02.559
Steve, No, he's sixty,
Steve, I know, I know the

473
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:07.839
six oh finished, eighty five finished. He had two years, two years,

474
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:14.200
may, four years time. I'm
sure your youngest is what twenty one?

475
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:20.240
Your oldest thirty? Come on?
How fast? Had happened? Very

476
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.359
fast? Very fast? You know
it's funny because you know we're going to

477
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.880
the going to the ball game,
last night, and I on a Facebook

478
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:34.480
memory today today showed a game that
we went to a game a few years

479
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.000
ago, and I matched it up
with a picture of the first time I

480
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.400
took Adam to Dodger Stayed. He
would have been he would have been about

481
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:46.119
three or four, maybe three.
And and looking at that picture of me

482
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:51.640
with my son as a not an
infant but a toddler, and then now

483
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.400
we're with his kid at a ball
game, and it just all kinds of

484
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.319
goose bumps from that, from that
last night, which is very cool.

485
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.119
A kid had no idea where he
was, he was, he was looking

486
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.839
around, he was having fun,
but it was it was crazy. There'll

487
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.039
be plenty of pictures. It was
a weird day, a good day yesterday

488
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.480
in baseball except except for a couple
of games. But the guy who threw

489
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.519
a new no hitter, a no
hitter in Philadelphia, he threw a no

490
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.359
hitter. And then in that same
game, a guy who had played in

491
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.480
the minors for like twelve years got
his first at bat and he hit a

492
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.599
home run. I saw and his
family was in the stands and his dad

493
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.680
was crying in this Yeah, can
you imagine he'd be going crazy is when

494
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:30.839
we've had him on the sand,
I'd be bawling. If you know,

495
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.440
if I my son played in the
you know, first major league game,

496
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.599
and he'd been in the miners all
that time, I'd be balling anytime I

497
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.279
kid hit a homer in the Major
League, but I'd be balling just to

498
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:44.759
the kid got to the major late, of course, But that's that's uh,

499
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.119
that's very cool. I did see
something on that one that this guy

500
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.039
had been in the in the miners
all this time, got in a bat

501
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.279
and went yard. Yeah. Did
you also see that we didn't mention the

502
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.680
chiefs for Jeane Smith is going to
retire. He's retiring after this year.

503
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.720
Yeah, he's out of here.
And again these guys come in, they

504
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.079
break everything up, and then they
go somewhere. So what they have?

505
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:05.480
What are you gonna do? All
right? Should we take our break?

506
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:07.880
Yeah, let's go break last break
of the day. I heard you did

507
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:14.440
not win the billion and I did
not win the the billion and a half.

508
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.800
No, we didn't hit the We
didn't hit that. We have a

509
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.440
little a little body mine that gets
tickets and we split him a little superstitious

510
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.360
thing he was at he went to
get his tickets, and the the got

511
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.480
the catcher said, hey, here, there's three tickets here that this guy

512
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.800
changed his mind on, decided he
didn't want him. But those are the

513
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:39.360
winners. Didn't win though. Dang
it all right, let's take our break.

514
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.360
We'll be back last last segment,
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on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back toy the Ball here on

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570
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I'd love to hear from you.
Yep, oh I had something,

571
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Steve, and I fact shoot,
I forgot oh Iowa State football. Yeah.

572
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:01.639
Man, they've now up to eleven
players who've been betting on sports and

573
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.960
betting on their own team. Okay, And then the funny part is this

574
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.960
one and these guys are getting charged
with a crime because they're getting charged with

575
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:16.039
betting under somebody else's account account or
ID, and so they're getting charged with

576
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.599
it a crime called tampering with records
because they're they're betting. But you know,

577
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.320
one guy was using his moms and
you know, had his mom's name

578
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:30.440
and stuff. So but I'll just
read this paragraph. It's from a story

579
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:37.239
in Sports Illustrated. One of the
players, the defensive tackle Isaiah Lee,

580
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:43.719
was accused of placing twenty six different
rate wagers on twelve separate Cyclones football games.

581
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.239
One of the games he allegedly bet
on was the twenty twenty one matchup

582
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:52.159
between Iowa State and Texas that he
played in, but Lee bet on the

583
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:58.320
Longhorns to win. He finished the
game with just one tackle and the Cyclones

584
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.760
one thirty seven, so he bet
against his own team and then they won.

585
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.639
So did he feel bad or good
about about the game? About it?

586
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.360
Yeah? Did you feel bad about
the probably bad? Do you feel

587
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.719
bad about the loss or do you
feel good about the fact that or the

588
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.719
losing the bad? Or do you
feel good about winning the game? Which

589
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:22.719
one was a bigger deal to him? This is this is and you know,

590
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.440
there's all these people saying, well, we knew this was gonna happen.

591
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.519
You're right, we knew this was
gonna happen. But this is on

592
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.440
the people, on the guys who
are doing it. It's not about the

593
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:34.320
fact that gambling is available. It's
about the fact that these guys know the

594
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.239
rules and choose to break the rules. I love a call. All right,

595
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.679
let's take it light on the air
and I on the ball. Yeah,

596
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.000
this is Nico man, what's up? Nico? Hey man. I

597
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.760
had a couple of days to process
this big Twilve movie. Okay, I

598
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.679
still don't like it, but I
get it. Why don't you like it?

599
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.039
Now? I wanted the Pack twelve
to stay around. I grew up

600
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.239
with the Pack twel Well, yeah, and I think that's what a lot

601
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.920
of people are saying right. They
wanted to packed off to survive. It

602
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.159
didn't. So I'm okay with what
what happened. I mean, is that

603
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.199
kind of where you're at? Yeah, and that this gives me a chance

604
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.599
to check out the new cheerleaders that
come to town. We're just gonna say,

605
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.119
Nico, you're probably a guy who
doesn't like change. And I'm thinking

606
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.920
that's not true because you changed girlfriends
all the time. That's true. I'm

607
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.360
bragging at the break up with this
one girlfriend. I hope she doesn't listen.

608
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.079
You just got this girlfriend. I
hope she's not listening to you.

609
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.000
She knows. Hey, man,
I thought I could be a vanilla ice

610
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:51.880
cream guy. Okay, Cassanova,
you probably elactose, intolerant man. You

611
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:58.360
know he is Nico, He's he's
he's living vicariously through you. To be

612
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.480
twenty years a year for sure,
he wouldn't be the first one. Alright,

613
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.039
dude, thank you, man,
I hear, Okay, go,

614
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.760
I still think he's all use car
salesman, but I like him. Okay,

615
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.079
Okay, why do you what do
you mean by that? In what

616
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.920
way? Is he used car salesman? Because he'll tell you what you want

617
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.280
to hear? Man, he could
like try to sell me a beat up

618
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.119
Honda Civic with like three wheels,
and I'd probably buy it. Yeah,

619
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.239
okay, okay, okay, I
get it and say, if your cash

620
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.960
make your credit sure is good.
But hey, mans, I guess he

621
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.199
what he's saying. But you know, I think, look, Jim has

622
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.400
done a great job. He doesn't
talk, he doesn't talk or sound like

623
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.920
a typical coach. No, no, right, he sounds like she's great.

624
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.000
Right. He sounds like he's a
different he's a different cat. Who

625
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.679
just does you know? He's going
through this thing differently than anybody else.

626
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.000
And but that's what's making it work
for him, I think, I mean,

627
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.480
I think that's why it seems to
be working, because he's not going

628
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.719
about it the way everybody else is
going about it, because the guy's got

629
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.239
a different, different experience. Let
me also ask you this, Okay,

630
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.079
so we know what we saw the
last previous three years before Jed got here.

631
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:22.199
Is he kind of still living off
that because he's you couldn't be being

632
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.000
worse than the guy before, right, So now he's doing what he does

633
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.719
and people are saying, Okay,
at least we've moved on from that,

634
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:34.159
and he's he's benefiting from what was
the way not to do things. Yeah,

635
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.280
yeah, I guess, but I
don't I don't look. I don't

636
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.800
think you get anything from the way
Kevin Sumlin did things here. There's nothing

637
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.039
you're not gonna say because nobody else
was ever gonna do what he did,

638
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.840
right, So you don't even look
at that. What what what he would

639
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.119
have had to look at was can
I go there with this plan that I

640
00:43:54.239 --> 00:44:00.039
have and win football games? And
he obviously thought he could and and that's

641
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.679
kind of what he's doing. So
I don't think there's anything you get from

642
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.320
that. You glean from the way
someone did things here. He didn't look

643
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.920
at that because if he would have
looked at that and said, there's no

644
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.559
way you can win here, because
he couldn't win there there, excuse me,

645
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.280
you're working to do that? It
was just so bad. It was

646
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.679
also bad. So uh, I
think it's more about you know, he

647
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.079
he I mean, he was going
to take this opportunity to where wherever he

648
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.639
could get this opportunity, right if
you got an Arizona Arizona state, uh,

649
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.800
you know you and LV wherever,
because he had a way that he

650
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.000
was going to come and do this, and so he's doing it that way

651
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:43.840
and it's so far working for him. Okay, you know, and he's

652
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.599
doing well. Wow, so far, so far, well, you know,

653
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.800
again, remains to be seen.
I think, you know, I

654
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.679
think what you hear from people is
that when I say people, I mean

655
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:57.480
like the media that we follow and
listen to, he's got their attention.

656
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.599
You know. People are saying there's
there might be something going on down at

657
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.360
uh down down in Arizona. Let's
keep an eye on it. Nobody's saying

658
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.079
or Arizona is gonna contend for the
oh yeah, yeah, but they're saying

659
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.519
there's something going on. Who.
Also, I think that he's a he's

660
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:14.920
a good dude, and he has
a lot of a lot of friends in

661
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:20.039
the media, that that he hasn't
pissed off yet doesn't make sense. No,

662
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.880
no, no, they love Sean. Yeah, until they didn't,

663
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.639
until they didn't. Yeah, No, you're you're right, you're right.

664
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.880
No, I think, yeah,
I think I think that's a piece of

665
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.119
it. Excuse me, I believe
that, you know, I guess I

666
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.119
guess the way to put it is
that there that you know, if you're

667
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.679
paying attention to what he's doing and
how he's doing it. What's not to

668
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.039
like? Right, you know,
what's not to like? And so I

669
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.960
think that I think it's more it's
more like that that there as you say

670
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:51.480
that, he hasn't done anything to
piss everybody off. No, and if

671
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.639
you win at least to some degree
compared to what it was before, you're

672
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:58.719
gonna be okay. Yeah, because
this this town. Come on, if

673
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.000
you win seven, eight, nine
games, eventually they'll get tired of winning

674
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.559
seven eight the running games because they
want to win it all, especially if

675
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.199
you tease them, right, especially
if you tease them and you win nine

676
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:08.760
games? Going on, come on, we're clothes were closes? Well?

677
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.719
Come on? What was the year
they went to Penn State? Year ninety

678
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:20.039
ninety nine? How how question was
that? Very and there were you were

679
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.880
he was dangling a lot of stuff. Yeah, like you guys are gonna

680
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.320
be really really good, extremely crushing, Yeah, and then that happened,

681
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.360
like extremely crushing, Steve. I'm
still crushed by it. That whole season.

682
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:37.119
You know, that season I went
on the booster trip to Oregon State

683
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.079
and we haven't got sideline passed.
Is rich Tomy got a sideline pass on.

684
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.000
My wife and I were on the
sidelines for the game Comedy games in

685
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:46.280
it was the last It was the
Organ Steak game was the last game before

686
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.320
the SU game in the fog.
It was already bad year, and they

687
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.960
got beat and we got taunted by
We had to sit there and get taunted

688
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.519
by Organ Steak fans, and I'm
like, I want to you guys,

689
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.039
give me the keys. You guys
have not been winning that long to be

690
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.039
to be taunting us. I mean, we're not you know, we're not

691
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.119
in Notre Dame. But we've been
better than you up until now, you

692
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.960
know, because that was when they
first got good with UH, with Dennis

693
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.599
Errickson and stuff. And I'm like, shut the hell up, But you

694
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.440
know, what can you do.
You're losing. They're kicking your ass and

695
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.119
there was nothing you could do about
it. And I hated that, and

696
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:28.280
that that sticks in my in my
cross about that season, you know.

697
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.760
And then when you know, after
the fact, I talked to Dick and

698
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:31.400
asked him, you know what happened. He is, we didn't do the

699
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.760
work. We didn't do the work
in the off season that we needed.

700
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.320
They thought too much of themselves yeah, well and he said, he said,

701
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.559
and we got hitting them out the
Penn State and we never even cover

702
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.679
that. That that was That was
that the week the the SI cover,

703
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.280
no, no, the SI cover
was ninety three, ninety four. They

704
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.320
were good, they went, they
went eight and three, but then they

705
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.159
went and lost to Utah and in
the Freedom Bowl that year, now was

706
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:59.440
again another game they they were in, they were in the running for the

707
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:05.800
league, went to USC and got
smacked by a USC team that should't have

708
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.800
smacked them, and that that killed
But isn't that It was on a football.

709
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.119
That's a was on a football in
a nutshell, in a nutshell,

710
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.000
expect the unexpected. You know.
There was a picture of somebody somebody around

711
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.360
a photo and I don't remember why, of a Chuck cecil. After they

712
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:25.079
got beat in eighty six up at
up at h up at uh Ucla.

713
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.039
They were winning big, twenty four
to six or something like that and then

714
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.960
got beat And that game, even
if all the other results would have stayed

715
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.239
the same, Arizona would have gone
to the World Bowl that year, would

716
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:45.039
have could have shut out. And
your dad was a left. Yeah,

717
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.840
it was nineteen eighty six and I
was at that game. We went to

718
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.920
that. We went to that road
trip and watched it all fall apart.

719
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.920
We were we were on the on
the ninety ninety three road trip where they

720
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.480
lost to cal On, you know, on the on that interception returned for

721
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.360
a touchdown the end. They lose
that game and that keep him out of

722
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.599
the Rose Bowl. We went to
it. We saw a lot of those

723
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.320
Steve, I'm hurting now, man, I'm hurting. Well, this is

724
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:15.239
your last if they there's no Rose
Bowl this year, even if a miracle

725
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.880
happened. Right, Yeah, the
Rose bowls a playoff, the playoff game

726
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.320
so you can get to the playoff
and get it. You got a violin

727
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.920
in your pocket, violin in your
pocket as you're bringing up and play it,

728
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.840
and even a little one. I
don't unfortunately. Yeah, growing up

729
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:32.599
okay, you grew up in Phoenix, right, Yeah? Were you an

730
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.519
as fan? Oh? No?
Was it not? Not at all?

731
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:37.840
I didn't care about them at all, No I did. I didn't care

732
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.920
about the Cardinal's sons. Why not? I don't know. I just I

733
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:43.760
mean, they were never good.
You were a sports fan, Yeah,

734
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:45.920
I was sports fan. I just
wasn't. He wanted to be a doctor,

735
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.199
Come on, but I know,
but still, I mean, like

736
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.559
I said, I've never really been
a fan of You've never even that,

737
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.239
you've never followed the team? No, not really no, because my my

738
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:58.239
dad especially, he doesn't like watch
American like basketball, for he was like

739
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.239
soccer, no tennis, But he
doesn't really watch sports like that. What's

740
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:08.079
what's wrong with your dad? He
works sports, that's good, Yeah,

741
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.920
it works a lot, doesn't have
time watch sport, so he's not He's

742
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:14.559
not like a football, baseball,
basketball, No, not really. I

743
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.840
mean now kind of but not really. No. So I kind of grew

744
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.679
up I played sports like everything now, I watched everything, but I never

745
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.599
had a team that I rooted for
religiously like most people did. So you

746
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.920
city follow players, yeah, giving
some players that were big for you for

747
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.840
like we're sport, any sport.
I'm just your favorite, your favorite player,

748
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:40.639
any sport that that that you love. I don't know. I guess

749
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:51.159
like Kobe Kobe lebron Kyrie Kerry,
who about football? Football? Let's see,

750
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.519
I couldn't even tell you football.
Yeah, I don't know, he's

751
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.679
a general. I don't know.
There's so many players that I mean,

752
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.719
I don't know on top of my
head right now. It couldn't be like

753
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.360
Jerry right Smith, I was tooled
around, but I don't know, just

754
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.320
different guys that I just watched.
Oh, this guy's pretty good, and

755
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.280
you know it probably does baseball.
No, not baseball. No. Yeah,

756
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.840
but baseball fans are lost art.
It's a lost art. Well,

757
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:21.039
I think I think as as as
as Jason said, baseball fans are fans

758
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.360
of players. I mean, I'm
a I'm a Dodger fan, but I'm

759
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.400
an old school guy. My son's
a Dodger fan, but he knows all

760
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.079
the players. Yeah, and not
just Dodger players. He you know,

761
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.920
we do this this immaculate grid thing. Dad, How did you not know

762
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:35.880
that? Guy? I'm like,
I don't even know who you're talking about.

763
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.239
Yeah, no, no, no, let me take something, Adam.

764
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:43.039
Time will come as his kid gets
older. Yeah, you don't care

765
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.440
about sports as much. Worried about
your kid and your family and blah blah

766
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.079
blah. Eventually, at some point
in your life there was a time in

767
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.840
transition you say, you know,
I don't care anymore. I gotta go

768
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:55.199
to a soccer game. And that's
and that's really kind of where I lost

769
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.400
as much as I'm a Dodger fan. Now I kind of lost a lot

770
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.760
of that because time life happens.
Life, life happens. And you said,

771
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.440
when I was a kid, I
knew about all the stats, and

772
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.920
then I just realized, no,
what, what's a purpose? Purpose?

773
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.280
And then I got into the business, and now you know if I'm a

774
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.079
fan of sports but not of sports. Yeah, Who's who do we have

775
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.119
on the TV on the show this
week? Who said exactly that I'm a

776
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:23.559
sports guy, but I'm not really
a sports can You laughed, and you

777
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.280
looked at me, and I said, exactly, what do you say?

778
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:34.639
Who was it? Sports editor at
the Star? And it sounds funny,

779
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.440
but it's true. It's true,
it's true. And I see how that

780
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.320
has happened over the years. I
see And do you mean for you too,

781
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:43.760
because you're not as involved as you
used to be? Right? And

782
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.599
your buddy's probably too. I mean
again, you know, people ask me

783
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.920
who's your favorite NFL team? I
say the team that I got money.

784
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:55.360
Wait, you gonna call it Nicholson? Who is talking about me? Yea?

785
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.679
This week? It's the nine years
all right? That was fun.

786
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.599
Pete Williams, thank you for being
here Jack, but we're going to talk

787
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.440
to you again. We appreciate your
your stuff, and we'll be back tomorrow.

788
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.599
I'm trying to truck someone. We'll
see who we got for you,

789
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.079
So be sure to come back tomorrow

